WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:03.399 The disclaimer to the fair season. Karen's out there, Oh 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:05.879 dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect 3 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:09.439 the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show 4 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:11.359 is to have interesting conversations, stretch. 5 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:13.519 Our minds and grow, not what we want. 6 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:16.760 If you are looking for an echo chamber viewer and listener, 7 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:18.320 discretion's abased. 8 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:23.800 Did you talk about extreme? 9 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:34.719 What is happening? And what is up? Hold out your 10 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:36.679 glass because we're about to feel. 11 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:40.159 The join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown. 12 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.920 It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsels to save, 13 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.039 and innumerable treasures to hoard. 14 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:52.000 The torch is high, you know, look at it from 15 00:00:52.039 --> 00:01:05.920 a different perspective, different perspective, top lots of productions. 16 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:12.239 What does God look like? 17 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:25.159 What do you see. 18 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:32.239 The soul of powered biological AI? 19 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:34.319 Wait? 20 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:34.560 Wait? 21 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:51.879 What these ancient adversarial entities? I think it's the very 22 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.400 same ones that were that rebelled against God and were 23 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:54.879 cast out. 24 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:02.120 They were sent here to God us in antiquity, and 25 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:17.400 they took advantage of that and just masqueraded as gods. 26 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:19.719 What's going on? 27 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:20.520 Everybody? 28 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.879 Good afternoon, and welcome back to the Great Pilled Podcast. 29 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:28.479 I am your host, Jules, your humble host as always 30 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:38.000 here with Doc Brown, Justin from the Prometheus Lens podcast. Doc. 31 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:39.759 What's going on, man? How you doing today? 32 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:43.240 What's happening Captain? I really appreciate you reaching out and 33 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:45.919 inviting me. Man, I'm sure we'll have some real good conversations. 34 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:48.360 We were talking free ras, like I've had several people 35 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:49.800 tell me I need to get with you. 36 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:50.960 So I'm glad it happened. 37 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.360 Yeah, man, I'm glad we get a definitely, and to 38 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:58.639 make it happen on a weekend because I'll schedule on weekdays, 39 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:02.240 but I you know, after working ten hours and then 40 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:05.680 coming home and hopping right, you know, it's like you 41 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.960 you want to have the best talk that you can have, right, 42 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.199 you want to have your head at one hundred percent. 43 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.240 So glad that you could catch me on a weekend, man. 44 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:19.800 Yeah, it definitely works out because my nine to five, 45 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.759 it's I work ten hour days. But I got like 46 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.000 an hour and a half drive one way, So like 47 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.479 you said, if you catch me on the week man, 48 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.479 I'm just I'm kind of dragging tanks running on about 49 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:31.039 half empty. 50 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:35.120 Yeah. Yeah, I have a show I produce every Tuesday, 51 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:39.479 already dead Austin Picard and Jose Gallison. It's like a 52 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:45.159 parapolitical conspiracy show, which is like the least of my expertise. 53 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:48.280 I'm born into the esoteric and like the occult symbolism 54 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.960 and stuff like that. But it's fun to get on 55 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.039 there with them. And now I'm like a third wheel, 56 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:56.520 Mike the third Code. I forced myself into being their 57 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:00.639 third co host. So so yeah, I have a show 58 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.879 I do on Tuesdays, and then I have like four 59 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:07.759 shows that are just under gray pilled, like four different 60 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:12.360 shows that I do with different people. So I stay busy, man, 61 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:16.240 you know, especially just doing like one one man's show 62 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:18.160 kind of deal. You know, I don't have a co 63 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.439 host or anything. Well not for like some like stuff 64 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.959 like this or all my deep dives and my Patreon content. 65 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:26.920 But enough about me, enough about me. 66 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:27.160 Doc. 67 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:31.240 For people who don't know who you are, you want 68 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:33.079 to tell us a little bit about yourself and kind 69 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:35.920 of what your podcast is about? What you talk about, Uh, 70 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.319 it's I'm sure it's similar to a lot of things 71 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:41.399 we get into over here on Gray pild. 72 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.439 Oh yeah, yeah, my name is Justin kind of got 73 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:49.399 the nickname doc Brown. H I'm that What do you 74 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.439 call that when you got like a seven foot guy 75 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:55.800 and he's got the nickname tiny, you know, an oxymorn. 76 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:56.199 I guess you. 77 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:59.920 It's like you have this you know, deep Southern draw 78 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:02.319 and then for me to talk about the things that 79 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.079 I talk about know about a lot of people, it 80 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.279 is just like, what the hell this guy's like he's. 81 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:08.240 A doc doc. 82 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:10.959 Yeah, No, I could definitely see you as a doc, 83 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:15.759 more doc than in Stustin for sure. Dude, I don't know. 84 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:19.199 Yeah, I just a nine to five knuckle dragger. 85 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:19.399 Man. 86 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.160 I've benefactory rat all my life. But I was that 87 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:25.720 kid that loved history, grew up in the church, loved 88 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.360 the Bible, and had a lot of questions. Man, And 89 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:32.279 I don't know. It was like twenty twelve. One day 90 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.920 I was doom scrolling and I had my red pill 91 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:38.439 moment with a guy named Trey Smith from God in 92 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:41.360 a Nutshell. And I grew up in church my whole 93 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:45.079 life and thought I knew the Bible really well, and 94 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.680 of course you have your rebellious stages and everything else. 95 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:51.240 But he was talking about falling angels coming down, breeding 96 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:55.160 with the daughters of men and UFOs and just all 97 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.680 kinds of this, you know, cool stuff that we find 98 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.879 ourselves fascinated with once we find out. And I was like, 99 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.560 this guy's crazy, man, I know why Bible well, that 100 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:05.800 stuff ain't in there. And so I started going through 101 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:07.480 and checking it all out. 102 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:09.319 And I love him. Behold, he was right. 103 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.240 But I was one of those set out view guys. 104 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.000 The few times i'd heard just the six talked about 105 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.920 in church. It was the good line of Seth breeding 106 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:18.720 with the bad line of Cane. 107 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:20.600 They just made spiritually wicked people. 108 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.920 And yeah, so in twenty twelve I started deep diving 109 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.600 and reading everything and get my hands on doctor Michael 110 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.639 Heiser's Unseen anm and all that stuff. 111 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:33.160 And it was twenty twenty two. 112 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.680 I had invited a group of friends from church and 113 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:38.279 some of the people in my friend circle for like 114 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:40.879 a hangout just I guess you could call it a 115 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.120 men's group or study group, but I just wanted some 116 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.519 guys to get together and hell, have some pizza, maybe 117 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:49.560 drink a few beers, and talk about the cool, weird 118 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.439 stuff in the Bible, and kind of exposed some of 119 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.639 this stuff to him and a boy the fifteen twenty guys. 120 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.720 I had maybe three dudes show up and three meetings later, 121 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.360 my friend's like, man, this is pretty a profound stuff. 122 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.240 We should be recording this doing a podcast. And I 123 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:07.199 never even knew what a podcast was, so when I 124 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.079 found out what it was, I was like, no, no. 125 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:11.399 I can't do that, man, right. 126 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.160 I started listening to them now that I know they're there, 127 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.959 but no, I ain't doing that, And he wrote me 128 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.399 pretty hard till I finally said yes, and thank god 129 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:22.720 I did, man, because it's a it's a passion of mine. 130 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.040 It's something that I really love and thoroughly enjoy. 131 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:29.199 Oh yeah, man, I can definitely tell that, especially when 132 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:32.879 I've seen you on the you know, a few podcasts 133 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.639 that I've that I've seen you on. You definitely seem 134 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:37.399 to be passionate about the stuff you're talking about. And 135 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.399 then that's important because once, you know, once it gets 136 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.519 to be like a job or it gets to be 137 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:48.480 a hassle, it then stop stops to be like fun. 138 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.040 That's that you know it's probably time to not not 139 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:59.120 do it anymore. I just got to a hundred episode. Congratulations, man, 140 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:02.720 Yeah dude, yeah, it's something something I wanted to pull 141 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:04.439 your page up though I should have done it when 142 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:07.079 I first introduced you, but I tried to look for 143 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.120 you on Rumble, but rumble yet not a rumble. 144 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:17.199 I need to just for a backup. But we started 145 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:20.079 to carry on to some of my stuff. 146 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:23.800 I've been starting to get warnings on stuff, and it's 147 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:24.519 stupid stuff. 148 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:25.879 I got a warning the other day. 149 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:28.839 For a hate speech and then it pulled it up 150 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.000 and it was an episode I did with a guy 151 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:35.080 talking about the financial b system, and they clipped, you know, 152 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.679 they marked or timestamped the issue, and so I went 153 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.080 back and watched it and the guy was talking about 154 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:44.759 he mentioned the Rockefellers, and he mentioned the Economist, and 155 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.279 he pulled up the magazine article and I think it 156 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:50.000 was like two thousand and two or three, but it 157 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.559 was before Crypto. It had this phoenix bird with a 158 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:57.399 gold chain on with a Crypto emblem hanging, and it 159 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.600 was standing on a pile of American dollars and it 160 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:03.320 was on and it said death of the American dollar 161 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:07.759 and it flagged that word death, and I. 162 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:08.600 Was like, what right. 163 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:10.679 So it's like, do they think that I was having 164 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:14.440 hate speech against the Rockefellers and was threatening death and 165 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:16.480 I appealed it, and I'm like, he's talking about you know, 166 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.759 the economists and currency, you know the word death he's taught. 167 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.240 He's reading the headline of this article. And it was 168 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:27.679 like maybe fifteen twenty seconds I got an email back, 169 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:29.320 your appeal has been declined. 170 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:32.120 Wow. And that was on YouTube. 171 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:33.879 Yeah. 172 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:37.600 Yeah. They froze my account about a week ago for 173 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:39.799 a couple of days until I sent him a sent 174 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:41.600 him a messager. I was like, I'll delete some of 175 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.720 the videos. Apparently that I have copyright content. I didn't know. 176 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:49.240 They never informed me of any of it before. So 177 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.320 it's my first time hearing about it. I go to 178 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.840 my profile and it says this page doesn't exist. Well 179 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.559 wait a minute, something's not right here. 180 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.480 Because everybody I've talked to so far, it's like, you know, 181 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:04.759 once you're under the radar, you're you're cool, but once 182 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:07.679 you get a strike or something on your account, you 183 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.639 are now on the radar and they'll start digging through 184 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:12.919 all your stuff to find every little thing they can. 185 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:15.120 I've heard of people getting three strikes within a week 186 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:17.159 because once they get put on the radar, they just 187 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:20.120 start really fine, calm and through your stuff. 188 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:25.440 Tell me that I'm happy. That's why I like rumble 189 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.440 so much and talk about whatever you really want to 190 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:34.279 and you know, listen, look, you can watch stuff on 191 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.360 you have watch parties on there and stuff. Dude, you 192 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:38.720 know you can't. That's copyrighted on YouTube. 193 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:41.440 Yeah, so it's just a crowd too, you know what 194 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:42.759 I mean. It is what it is. 195 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:46.559 I mean YouTube, it's it sucks to be censored and 196 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:48.759 have to be real careful and watch what you say. 197 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:51.480 But that's that's where the people are, man. You know, 198 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.440 like you, I've only been doing this a year, but 199 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.279 I'm working on six or seven thousand subscribers over there, 200 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.519 and I was monetized within the first Yeah, you can't 201 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:03.600 getting no killer money, but I mean you're getting, you know, 202 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.399 a couple of hundred bucks a month and you're killing 203 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:08.279 descriptions and stuff, you know. 204 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:11.320 Yeah, well hold on, you said you you've only been 205 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:14.919 doing this a year. Yeah, you've been killing it, man. 206 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.720 I've been doing it the same amount of time as 207 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:20.240 you and I. I don't have near as many followers 208 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:23.399 as you do, but I've like I said, I I 209 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.200 think I shadowed band myself within the first few months 210 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:32.279 of me starting to stream uh, and I've also you know, 211 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:38.120 I have conflicting views and a lot of other people 212 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:42.399 and especially well then even when it comes to Christianity 213 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:45.159 and stuff, man, like I have some takes that people 214 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:50.039 would consider like blasphemus are heretical. But it's really like, 215 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.639 you know, I'm reading into a lot of things that 216 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:55.879 people people don't see at first first glance. You know, 217 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:58.600 you kind of have to look into it a little more, 218 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:00.600 like you were saying, kind of understand it a little 219 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:08.720 bit deeper, the esoteric tones, right, which you find a 220 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.120 lot of people never even go looking for. 221 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:12.840 Oh no. 222 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:14.879 And that was one of the reasons I wanted to 223 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:17.759 start the show too, because it was like with me, 224 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:20.759 I grew up in church, read all the stuff and 225 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:22.960 thought I had a good grasp on it. And then 226 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.320 once I started going deeper and looking into the Hebrew 227 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:28.039 and the Greek and just the culture, you know, and 228 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:32.039 finding all the micro and meta narratives interwoven into this story, 229 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:36.480 it honestly excited me because I was kind of like, 230 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:41.240 you know, when the Saints go marching in you know, 231 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.519 I mean, the suit tie robot, It's like it was 232 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.919 just become mundane and a ritual and I know it 233 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:48.919 sounds bad, but it's after a while you get told 234 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:49.559 the same story. 235 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:50.399 You're like, yes, I. 236 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.600 Know Jesus died on the cross from my sins, and 237 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:55.200 yes I know this, Yes I know that. But when 238 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.840 you actually start deep diving and you find this stuff 239 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:00.799 and find all the deeper connections and find it, you 240 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:02.799 know it doesn't have to be blind faith. You know 241 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:05.360 it's something you can see, you can feel it, taste, touch, 242 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:07.039 It just invigorates you. 243 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:08.120 Man, it excites you. 244 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:10.440 And to me, it drew me closer to God and 245 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:14.879 made me want to know him better and understand you know, 246 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.240 his people and how he talked to his people. And 247 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:21.480 I knew that if it did that to me, I 248 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.679 wanted to do that for others because I found that 249 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:26.200 so many people in the churchyard, they're in that robotic 250 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.879 saints go marching end and they're just they're dead inside. 251 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.360 You know, the stuff like this, you know, if it 252 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:35.799 would awaken me spiritually and excite me. I know not 253 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.120 everyone's like me, but there has to be a handful. 254 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.600 So if I can invigorate somebody and get them excited 255 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:43.960 to dive back into the world and find some of 256 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.320 these little hidden treasure trove nuggets. 257 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:48.120 You know, why wouldn't I want to do that? 258 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:53.240 Absolutely, that's beautifully put. Man, I have to clip that doc. 259 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:56.240 Yeah. 260 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:59.080 Man, that's what brought me closer to Christ. And like, 261 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:05.039 you know the real meaning of the holy the Holy Spirit, right, 262 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.679 because I've I've said this a lot of times before. 263 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:13.000 Uh people, you know, they can read the Bible one 264 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:17.720 hundred times. Uh, go go to church every Sunday, it 265 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:25.320 could still be you know, not walking in the spirit whatsoever. Right, Yeah, 266 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.840 and then they'll come at you know, they'll they'll come 267 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.720 at guys like me and you and tell us that 268 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:35.039 we're not Christians, that we are you know, uh, this 269 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.960 or that, blasphemers, whatever you want to call it. And 270 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:42.799 it's like, yeah, is that really like what you're like? 271 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:48.200 It's like every person has their own walk with Christ, right, 272 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:53.799 their own relationship, and so for you to tell someone else, like, hey, 273 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:59.399 you're your your walk with faith is is not It's 274 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.639 not the right one. I just think that's bullshit, dude, 275 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:03.120 you know what I mean? 276 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.200 Oh yeah, And that was one of the frameworks too 277 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.159 when I started this show, because the first when I 278 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:09.480 did that was just kind of like a little Bible 279 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.519 Study podcast. I deal with a few friends, and I 280 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.200 wanted to extend that, you know, I was like, I 281 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:21.360 think this, you know, Biblical lens filters through everything, you know, conspiracy, cryptids, 282 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:25.639 ancient loss, civilizations, all that stuff. The Bible has an 283 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:27.799 answer if you just filter it through the right lens 284 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.399 and have the right perspective. But like you had said, 285 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.120 I had read Joseph Campbell's Hero of a Thousand Faces 286 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.759 and I read about the archetypes and the hero's journey, 287 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:42.279 and that's kind of what I've coined the show. You know, 288 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:45.639 the show's the Prometheus lens, but I've coined it. It's 289 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.759 the hero's journey. You know, you have to go into 290 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.120 the unknown, you have to face the dragon. You have 291 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.440 this great adventure to go on, and that's what you're 292 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:57.679 called to do. And you hoard up the treasure and 293 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.559 the gold nuggets. Man, But then what you get this 294 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.399 prize of great wealth? The Greeks called it the boon. 295 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:05.039 What are you gonna do with it? 296 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.200 Yeah, your journey's not over, man. Every great story tells 297 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:11.000 you got to turn back around and go back to 298 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.120 humanity and present this prize of great wealth and share 299 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:17.600 it with the world and to us that that's Christ right, 300 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:20.840 and everyone is on their hero's journey, whether they realize 301 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:21.360 it or not. 302 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:23.879 And everyone's journey is different. Man. 303 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:27.159 So you know, saddle up, say yes, step out into 304 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:28.840 the unknown man, and let's begin. 305 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:34.679 Yeah, dude, the truth is stranger than fiction. And I 306 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:37.200 mean it's the same in the mystery schools, bro, like 307 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:41.120 the higher initiatory status. You go, it's like, what are 308 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:43.440 you gonna do with this knowledge? Like what path are 309 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:47.759 you going to go down? You know, been reading lately 310 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:50.720 in this one book how Christianity is in a way 311 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:56.159 its own mystery school you know, if you really if 312 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.600 you read it that certain way, I think there's many 313 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:02.039 different ways to interpret, uh, the Biblical text and then 314 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:05.599 when you add in the apocrypha, and you know, even 315 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:09.480 other types of uh, you know, the Eugartic text and 316 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:12.920 the Gnostic Gospels and all that stuff, regardless of what 317 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:16.279 you think about it. I mean I've seen I tend 318 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:19.640 to find truth in all of it, you know, like 319 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:22.039 it may not be one hundred percent, but maybe five 320 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:26.079 percent here, ten percent over here, and uh, you know, 321 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:29.839 you find these stories in these other texts as as well. 322 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:33.039 So like what's, uh, what's the first thing that kind 323 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.119 of led you besides uh, the whole thing with Genesis 324 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.480 six and the fallen mating with the daughters of Man, 325 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.559 which I think could be also kind of interpreted as 326 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:48.440 a fallen angel like DNA manipulation, what's one of the 327 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.559 first things that led you to like kind of figure 328 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.359 out that there's more than what meets the eye. 329 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.319 Well, honestly, it was, you know, the Genesis six thing 330 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:03.079 was the beginning. But then when I started looking, you know, 331 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:09.839 into that Hebrew phrase, you know, the benehaigh ilohem, and that. 332 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.920 Was a rainbow bridge gap. 333 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:14.920 You know, that connected a lot of dots for me, 334 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:17.279 because once I started digging through and seeing that every 335 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:20.680 time that that phrase is used, it's talking about divine, 336 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:25.200 heavenly beings. And so when I kind of started following 337 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:27.240 that that thread and that rabbit trail, it led me 338 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:34.079 to Deuteronomy thirty two, And that, honestly was a major 339 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:37.799 paradigm shift and a new set of glasses for me, 340 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:42.160 because once again I just grew up thinking that this 341 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:46.839 was a tall building, that they were prideful and they 342 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.400 were going against God's commandment where he said be fruitful, 343 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.799 and multiply and spread across the earth and take dominion, 344 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.839 and that they just decided just to stay there and 345 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:58.559 defy God, because that's what I was taught in church, 346 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.200 and that God come down and just divided the languages 347 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:03.799 and split them all up. 348 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:06.319 But once I got. 349 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:09.319 To looking into that, when you go to Deuteronomy thirty two, 350 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.039 that's the retelling of that same story, and it's got 351 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:14.880 that same phrase in there. It said not only were 352 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:20.000 the tongues divided, it said that mankind was divided amongst 353 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:26.440 the bunahai Elohem, the sons of God. And I was like, whoa, Okay, 354 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.480 So then I started reading all these other stories and 355 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:32.440 instances that Michael Heiser talked about showing that this was 356 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.000 the belief of the people at that time, that there 357 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:38.720 was gods, you know, over the different nations, and it 358 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:40.200 was like a territory. 359 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:42.319 Type thing, like a gang, you know, a gang battle. 360 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:45.680 Different gangs had different you know, sections of the city. 361 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:46.759 Absolutely. 362 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:47.799 Yeah. 363 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:49.599 And then that I can't remember the guy's name now, 364 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:52.039 but he was a Roman soldier that went and got 365 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.920 healed by a prophet and he goes back and begs 366 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:02.839 the prophet for two mule loads of dirt to take 367 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.680 back to his homeland. And reading that, I just kind 368 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.799 of read over it. I was like, Okay, that's strange, 369 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:10.799 you know. But then doctor Michael Heizer talked about it 370 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:13.519 in his book. He's like, it's because of the Deuteronomy 371 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:18.640 thirty two worldview, because Yahweh was over Israel and he's 372 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.160 seen the power of Yahweh because he was healed by it. 373 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.720 So therefore he wanted to take some of this earth 374 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:26.880 back with him and make him, you know, a sanction 375 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:31.920 of where or a place that where Yahweh's territory went 376 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:35.440 with him. And it answered all these questions because that 377 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:38.359 I had and other you know, atheists and non believers 378 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.680 would throw at Christians often you know, well, if. 379 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:44.200 Your god's real, then he's just a shitty god. Uh. 380 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:46.960 You know, how do you explain all the war, the atrocities. 381 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:50.000 My sister was raped by our stepfather till the time 382 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:52.359 you know that she was twenty years old. Yeah, you know, 383 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:55.680 if you're a god's in control, he's just a shitty god. 384 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:58.880 We'll know, with this Deteronomy thirty two worlds, you would 385 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:02.680 answers a whole lot of question. And Ezekiel twenty eight. 386 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:05.480 There is another example. You know, he's calling out this 387 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:07.880 king of tire, but then all of a sudden it changes. 388 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:09.680 He's like, you were in the garden of Eden. Every 389 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:11.799 precious stone was your covering. You were perfect in all 390 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:15.039 your ways, you were an anointed guardian Cherub. It's like, 391 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:16.880 who wha, who whoa. He ain't talking to this king 392 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:22.319 no more. He's talking to the principality that Paul talks about, 393 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:25.400 the rulers, the principality, spiritual wickedness and high places. 394 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:26.279 It's these dudes. 395 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.559 Around me, thirty two sons of God that are pulling 396 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.440 the strings like puppets on the world leaders and influencing 397 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:35.000 the world around us. So to me, that was just 398 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:38.240 like whoa, Okay, I got to keep digging, man, There's 399 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:39.160 got to be more. 400 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:44.359 Yeah, dude. And I mean, I've kind of looked into 401 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:48.400