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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to one of those data areas thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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<v Speaker 2>of it?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds, time areas

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<v Speaker 3>If it was anybody a h above us to pass us,

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<v Speaker 3>like thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago, we were sending one of golf negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, OFFI the UFO. Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just passed over, I go.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it was, but it's from at

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<v Speaker 2>least to three thousand feet above us.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I passed out over the top of US ninety

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<v Speaker 1>one one.

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<v Speaker 2>You just called up to me before.

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<v Speaker 1>They're after staying the airplanes.

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<v Speaker 2>He is.

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<v Speaker 4>I swear to God more calm on an unidentified object

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<v Speaker 4>every Liberty four call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 2>A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share

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<v Speaker 2>their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had

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<v Speaker 2>an encounter, I would like to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you

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<v Speaker 2>all this week? I'm Nick Hunter and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>UFO Chronicles podcast. In tonight's episode, we sit down with Antonio,

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<v Speaker 2>coming to ve Us from California in the US, an

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<v Speaker 2>experiencer from Portugal whose story began in the late nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventies with a blowing light over the olive trees of

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<v Speaker 2>vimur Aru. What followed was a lifetime of encounters, from

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<v Speaker 2>paralyzing vibrations of missing time, to mysterious men in black cars,

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<v Speaker 2>prophetic dreams, and a deep connection to ancient sacred sites.

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<v Speaker 2>His journey led him to write Gods or Civilizations from

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<v Speaker 2>the Stars, a book he believed was inspired by direct

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<v Speaker 2>contact with non human intelligences. Antonio shares how his experiences

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<v Speaker 2>shaped his faith, his family, and his search for meaning,

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<v Speaker 2>from his first sighting as a child to a hypnotic

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<v Speaker 2>regression that revealed hidden memories. Antonio is up next, but first,

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<v Speaker 2>this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, Hello Antonio, welcome to the podcast. Hello, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for joining us today. And you're coming to us

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<v Speaker 2>from the state of California.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, city of Modesta.

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<v Speaker 2>Modesta, wonderful. Okay, Now, Antonio, you have some experiences you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be sharing with us. Would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>start at the beginning, please, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I can beginning of when I watch child and

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<v Speaker 1>there was in the late seventeenth that's all. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>There was beginner when I saw strange light in the

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<v Speaker 1>small town where my parents live, and at that time

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<v Speaker 1>I was leaving my parents. There has a farm. And

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<v Speaker 1>one night I was talked with a friend mine after

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<v Speaker 1>we had got dinner and we all met in the

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<v Speaker 1>club and uh, and when I was walking and I

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<v Speaker 1>look in the above the olive us a big light light.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at that. That was strange, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I let me call my friend for it

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<v Speaker 1>looked that light too, and I just run his house

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<v Speaker 1>it's not far away, and I knocked the door. The

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<v Speaker 1>came the muddiest, and he goes, oh, he left already,

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<v Speaker 1>and I came back for the same way, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look and the light, that big light still

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<v Speaker 1>in the top of the olive us and I just

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<v Speaker 1>ran to the club and I saw him and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, I want to show you something. And we

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<v Speaker 1>both this is real close because that town about one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people, so it's not it's a village, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and that moment we just run there and

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, there was a big light, a big light.

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<v Speaker 1>When we go almost in the close to the light,

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<v Speaker 1>we look and there was not anymore white light. It's yellow,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was not just stand in the top, all

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<v Speaker 1>of us, but just toff move in the top. They

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<v Speaker 1>have no noise, they have nothing. And we keep just

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<v Speaker 1>looking over there. And it's funny because that thing we

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<v Speaker 1>even don't know in that time, the world UFO. And

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<v Speaker 1>we look at each other and say, what what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And both me and my friend we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know. After that we start looking in the

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper and that time we find the world Well PORTRAITSVNI.

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<v Speaker 1>They go, it's a UFO and they say, oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the same thing we saw in that all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. After a while, I don't know. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the next night I started a dream, A little strange dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one that One funny thing is after that night,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm start it's about all that kind of different religions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and in the school, especially the history class.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the sixth or seventh grade, and I

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<v Speaker 1>see something there was not to write in the in

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<v Speaker 1>that story that when we talk about the pyrems and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about all that stuff, and says something is missing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I know that this is about that light.

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<v Speaker 1>You have connection with that light. All the nights I

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<v Speaker 1>got to the bed and the start right down. I

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<v Speaker 1>read the Bible and another manuscript. Everything I can get

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time. I think there's some connections between

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<v Speaker 1>the light and all that. After a while, I was

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<v Speaker 1>they starts happening. Another strange thing is I recalled the

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<v Speaker 1>vibrations that when I start at night, when I go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bed, I start feeling like tingling in my

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<v Speaker 1>feet and they go all up to the lakes. And

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<v Speaker 1>when they come all the day up all that, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't move anymore my legs. After that they come real

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<v Speaker 1>fast get my body, all my body and I can move,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember I was screaming for call my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Any sounds come out, and I don't know a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>I always sticked like that. After a while, that can

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<v Speaker 1>just disappear and I wake up from the bed, run

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<v Speaker 1>to the room my parents, and I will scream and

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<v Speaker 1>this girl keep going not I don't know, maybe two

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<v Speaker 1>times a month or something like that. And after a while,

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<v Speaker 1>I was when I moved to the high school because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a village and we must go studying to another

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<v Speaker 1>another city, and it was like I don't need minds.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's around twenty five kilometer from the from mine town.

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<v Speaker 1>We take a bus and what's happening is Sunday, like

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesdays in the afternoon. We have no school in the

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon and like twelve twenty is the last class and

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<v Speaker 1>we have just the bus, like six thirty pm. And

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<v Speaker 1>I must wait for the bus or we will got beside.

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<v Speaker 1>Some friends were walking and we go to the one

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<v Speaker 1>road is the road that may Lisbon to Spain. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked for right and one day I was with a

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<v Speaker 1>friend mine and we have a black kind kid deal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wes for right we go next to the

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<v Speaker 1>driver that kind thing. And uh. One day I was

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<v Speaker 1>with a friend mine and I asked for right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then come up a nice black, real nice car, and

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<v Speaker 1>the stop and I look inside the car and to

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<v Speaker 1>the driver for as all right, And he doesn't say nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>He just said, come come inside, come inside. And I

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<v Speaker 1>go inside next to the drive, and uh, my friend

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<v Speaker 1>go in the backseat and they start driving. And the

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<v Speaker 1>first question he did what surprised me. He turned to

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<v Speaker 1>me and said, without nothing, He just said, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you thinking about the Bermuda tri Angle. I look at

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<v Speaker 1>him quite stranger, what kind of question is that? But

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<v Speaker 1>he even doesn't wait for the for the answer. He

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about anscient civilizations, about aliens. We doesn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>anything more. You're just keeping talking talking, talk about dimensions,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about DNA. What I said, what is DNA? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I was, Well, he keep talking talking until he drives

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<v Speaker 1>to our town. And that moment it just dropped my

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<v Speaker 1>friend and you go to and the stop in the

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<v Speaker 1>front of the farm of my father. My father was

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the place where I saw that light with my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just told me, okay, now you go if

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<v Speaker 1>you can read three different books. I don't remember too.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember one one there was a UFOs in

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<v Speaker 1>Fatima and I said okay, okay, But then that time

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<v Speaker 1>is real. I got that book and they said okay, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 1>and he left. After a while, I don't know a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. But after a while I was with another

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<v Speaker 1>friend in the same in the same spot and asked

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<v Speaker 1>for right. There must be another Wednesday. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>my turn to ask for right. After a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>cars become a black car. I don't realize that was

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<v Speaker 1>the same and he's just stopped and he turned the

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<v Speaker 1>window and on and I look inside and I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the same person, and he asked me for from the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>I go next to him. But in this time we

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<v Speaker 1>have another young gentleman behind the seat of the driver.

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<v Speaker 1>And my friend was with next sit down next to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he start right away start all over, talk about

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<v Speaker 1>and civilizations, talk about alien stuff, about UFOs, all relations all.

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<v Speaker 1>He must think, Okay, let's go tell this kid all

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<v Speaker 1>the story again. And he keeps talking, talking, talking, And

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<v Speaker 1>when we got at the town, he just dropped my

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<v Speaker 1>friend and he dropped me and said and they say

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<v Speaker 1>goodbye and say one day we'll go see again. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know if we saw again. But

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<v Speaker 1>and he just left the next morning. Oh, in the

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<v Speaker 1>stock bus. I was over there and then turned my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just when the story comes a little strange,

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<v Speaker 1>because he said, I was in the front. I have

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<v Speaker 1>not a good look to the to the another man,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, hey, there was a real strange you

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<v Speaker 1>know that guy I w was sit down, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>good afternoon. Even just look at me. He just keeps straight,

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<v Speaker 1>look to the front all the way. He doesn't say

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<v Speaker 1>one word, doesn't look at me nothing. And another thing

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<v Speaker 1>was strange. Yes, it's a It looks like a man

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty five, twenty six years old. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>real that cool sunglasses, and they have the the head

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<v Speaker 1>it's like cut like he was in the army. And

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<v Speaker 1>he has a black suit. Matter of fact, I forget

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you the man. They have a black suit too.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said it looks like it's a black suit

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<v Speaker 1>or real real die bullsuit. When I look at him,

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<v Speaker 1>really what I scare me a little bit. It's the face.

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<v Speaker 1>The face is the skin. It looks like too white.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what my friend said. I was not certainly there

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<v Speaker 1>was what a toy. It was a man. But he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't move, It doesn't say nothing. And he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when I I come out from the car, I say okay,

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye. Even just look at me, it just stayed

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<v Speaker 1>the same position. It does move all all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why my friend told me and one

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<v Speaker 1>another things happened too. Since I saw that light that night,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sometimes I was there. Still happened with me. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I was at home, and I started a feeling I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stay over there. And with that feeling, I must

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<v Speaker 1>be there. I don't know why. And after a while

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. There was ten minutes, however, I have that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling I must live in. And nothing happened, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The most of the time, nothing happened, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>that place. I must waiting for I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>And and after a while I have the feeling I

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<v Speaker 1>must live in. Well, they have another Another thing happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me. There was like the eighties beginning maybe eight

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one, I was with my father and that time portrayal.

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<v Speaker 1>I have just one channel and there was black and white.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched some problem and my father have five dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly they all the dogs, not just mine, all the

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<v Speaker 1>my father, what's I must go see what's happened? And

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<v Speaker 1>I just walked. When I'm walking out, all the dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>not just mine, even the neighbor's dogs. All they stop

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<v Speaker 1>in the same time. And I was looking and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see the dogs. I call the dogs

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs. It's inside, it's the dog's out. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to come out. And do we talk about dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's training for finding with wolves because and the for

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<v Speaker 1>being watching the cows. It's a real big dog and

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<v Speaker 1>I we call them. And that moment, I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really real quiet. Well I don't see anything. And

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the sky and I saw that big

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<v Speaker 1>slender orange slender in the sky. There was so big,

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<v Speaker 1>so big, and I called my father. I asked them

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<v Speaker 1>for come out and look at the sky, that big,

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<v Speaker 1>big light. And in that time, my father I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what my father was me by knuckles, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's binnacles. And I got that. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>not just that cylinder, but they have like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a windows, a dark black windows. There was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many, but there was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I give the binnacles to my father. You saw that

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<v Speaker 1>too well, and they'll be looking at that. My father said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the inside and I go look the show if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to come, or you won't stay. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was stay for a while. I don't know, maybe thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds or twenty second, and I'll go inside again after

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<v Speaker 1>a while. I don't know a long time, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a short time. All the dogs time make noise,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the cows, all the lives come back again,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go outside and look at the sky called

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<v Speaker 1>nothing was in the sky anymore, and all is normal.

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<v Speaker 1>There was everything normal well after that. I was for

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<v Speaker 1>March nineteen eighty six, I was twenty years old. I

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<v Speaker 1>was with a friends. We ride bicycle and one of

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<v Speaker 1>us our friends said look, it's almost seven pm. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was real close to the farm, my father farm,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, look, it's almost seven pm. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>by to dinner. And we met in the club. After

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<v Speaker 1>the dinner, I said, okay, everybody agreed and living I

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<v Speaker 1>started go ride the bicycle. And when I go almost entrance,

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<v Speaker 1>close to the gate of the farm, I looked far

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<v Speaker 1>away and I saw a light that looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>start and I said, what usually it's not a style.

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<v Speaker 1>It's over there, you know. And I was in that time,

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<v Speaker 1>I know already what this venus and the planet. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that is strange. It's a light orange red red orange.

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<v Speaker 1>What I did? I just take the bicycle drive they

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<v Speaker 1>got that road, go to another town and the light

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<v Speaker 1>was stand over there. And when I look at the light,

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<v Speaker 1>it just the pier. The light was in my left side,

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<v Speaker 1>and the pier and the pier again my right side,

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<v Speaker 1>but a little far away. I just grabbed the bicycle

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<v Speaker 1>start drive the bicycle just a little bit, and the

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<v Speaker 1>light the peer again and the pier for the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road, and I'm looking and that moment

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<v Speaker 1>it's the pier again and the peer from the right

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<v Speaker 1>left to right, but a little far away, and that

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<v Speaker 1>moment just the pier forever. And I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>clerk and say it's seven forty five. I say seven

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. They can't be seven forty five. What I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I go back again with the bicycle and I'd stop

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<v Speaker 1>in the front of the gate of my father firm

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<v Speaker 1>and just I'll go do all around everything to tell that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they take me less than five minutes. And well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and I at that time and even

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<v Speaker 1>now I can explain what will happen and that that's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five minutes. And it's funny because when I come

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<v Speaker 1>to United States nineteen eighty seven, I was leaving Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>I was met some group the move out and one

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<v Speaker 1>day I have a meeting with in house Miss Anastasia,

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<v Speaker 1>Connecticut book plays, and there was about missing time. There

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<v Speaker 1>was my first time in nineteen eighty seven when I

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<v Speaker 1>listened about missing time, and people have all not the

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<v Speaker 1>same but almost the same experience about time. Was the

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<v Speaker 1>time gone that? Well? After that, all the time passed

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still at that dreams and that calls I

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<v Speaker 1>must go move for some place and stay in that place.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen ninety eight, I think I'm going back to my country.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was living in the in the city name

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<v Speaker 1>everyday it's a capital of the state capital. And I

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<v Speaker 1>bought a farm and I was leaving the farm, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was keeping the book and the studied about the

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<v Speaker 1>relations everything. And one day I was going to a

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<v Speaker 1>call that kind of calls strange calls. Matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 1>I was almost going the bed and I got that call.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just stand up and bring the There was no

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<v Speaker 1>book yet, but it was the pages and I go

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<v Speaker 1>bring all the pages and I'm just going that place

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<v Speaker 1>that's and I'm just sit down over there. And that

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<v Speaker 1>night there was real different that happened. And another night

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<v Speaker 1>and what's happening is I was there and I have

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling somebody be watching me, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't see anything. And that moment I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the sky and it looks like as a doom

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<v Speaker 1>and all the sky there was a strange because I

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<v Speaker 1>know some constellations and I can I can't find any constellations.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, I'll be looking. At that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw four shadows beings in the front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like I don't know about two meters far

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<v Speaker 1>with it and there was it's a shadows, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can figure out there were they have two tall ones

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<v Speaker 1>and two small ones and they look at me and

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<v Speaker 1>that moment I I just stopped with them and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it is the page of the book. What I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>doing all my life, I'll be doing this when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing next. And there was for more strange, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like I have that message that was not like talking,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like telperty something like that. And they said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think they were from the left side.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole one said the book was not finished yet

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna finish. I don't need help for some lady,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that like they go be helped me, just

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<v Speaker 1>finish with the book and I go meta pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like strange because after a while I was

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<v Speaker 1>in that time, I was working after Casualty lab and

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<v Speaker 1>U and they came a new employee, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely and we started. Matter of fact, we start date

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<v Speaker 1>and you later we get married and you gotta a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Well when we're talking and she will show interest about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, look, I can help you because I

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<v Speaker 1>can work with the computer. I can help you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what she did she take? You know, all is in

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<v Speaker 1>the pages she writes in the computer helped me and

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<v Speaker 1>and funny thing, they helped me find Portuguese associations. You

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<v Speaker 1>have for Portuguese associations. I am at the president of

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<v Speaker 1>the associations and one day call him and we go

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<v Speaker 1>met in Lisbon and he asked me, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>we have a meeting the last Saturdays every month in Lisbon,

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<v Speaker 1>and they gave me the address. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go over there, just go and listening to other people

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<v Speaker 1>if you want them. You can talk about your experience too.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, one day I'll be there. And after

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<v Speaker 1>a while, one day there was lost the lady, the

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<v Speaker 1>famous lady, Brazilian lady. It is a doctor Jill the

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<v Speaker 1>Moore and she was us that night, I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was about adoptees and I go, I go with

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<v Speaker 1>my wife. I take that my daughter. I remember she

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<v Speaker 1>was so young, she was the smalk yet and well

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listing doctor Jilda Morris talking about adoptees and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. They do in the middle, like after two

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<v Speaker 1>hours they have a break, and that moment something in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, my brain, you know, I call unlock, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I started remember one thing I never forget after

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<v Speaker 1>that day. And what I remember is I can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>if nothing really happened. But what I remember is one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I know. They in my brain forever I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>I was inside. They looks like a ship. I was

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<v Speaker 1>walking and the wall it's all light, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>when I walk. I don't see it with my eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel they have some sun beams. Just follow me.

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<v Speaker 1>Next real next to me, and I was walking and

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<v Speaker 1>I look in the room. There was a room, empty room.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end of that room. They have a lighter

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<v Speaker 1>windows and it's all dark and we can't see nothing

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<v Speaker 1>outside doing them well, I keep we keep walking, and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw in my right side again another another room,

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<v Speaker 1>another empty room. I'm looking and I keep walking that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know there was the terry room or another room.

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<v Speaker 1>I look and I saw like a child and all

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<v Speaker 1>the child look at me, and I look at them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I stopped and look and there was all kind

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<v Speaker 1>each of childs. Matter of fact, they have was two

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<v Speaker 1>young childs. They were so young, and they play with

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<v Speaker 1>the tubes and they have like red air and another

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<v Speaker 1>another shadow the olders they look at me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember they have a child with maybe twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a yellow air, and they have another girl

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the American neatives. And she looked at me

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at her, look at it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>I know this girl from somewhere. And the funny thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all all the dress. It's like the Tonics, white tonics.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no shoes. And I look at that girl and okay,

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<v Speaker 1>after that, I keep walking and it's none. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember anything more. Well, one day and I think in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind and see what what's the real happened? This

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<v Speaker 1>happened or there was just imagination of my brainworking what

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<v Speaker 1>really happened? But I know there was different. And one

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<v Speaker 1>day I was I was at the work to think,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think about that, and I said, look because

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most if the thing happened, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the confusion I have is if when they happened, if

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<v Speaker 1>I was a child, I was old already. And I

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<v Speaker 1>figure out when I look at that child, that girl,

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<v Speaker 1>she must have maybe eleven twelve years old too. I

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<v Speaker 1>a child too, But I don't know. I don't know

418
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<v Speaker 1>what really happened that day, you know, okay, with another

419
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Another thing happened to me. There was the September two

420
00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.759
<v Speaker 1>thousand eleven, and I was with my my wife and

421
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 1>my mal fad was my ex wife before, and with

422
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>my my daughter, and there was no cars in that world,

423
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.319
<v Speaker 1>just us, and we start, I said, I asked her

424
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<v Speaker 1>if I see some lights like blue, red and white

425
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>and but in the back of the car and when

426
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 1>she drives, and I asked her if she can't see

427
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 1>that lights, and she said, I can't see anything, you know,

428
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>But I said, look look at you can see the lights.

429
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 1>It's almost next to us, and uh, and she'd be

430
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:41.319
<v Speaker 1>looking looking and uh. After while, the lights just disappeared

431
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:46.039
<v Speaker 1>and everything comes dark again. And it's funny because I

432
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:51.079
<v Speaker 1>was just me. I saw that light in that time. Well,

433
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.119
<v Speaker 1>after a while in the I don't know, I don't remember.

434
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>There was the October two thousand and eight. I was

435
00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>guy divorced already and in that time I was day

436
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>treated another girl and that thing happened a real strange

437
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>because I was in the kitchen return we're talking, and

438
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>she started looking very strange to me, in the real

439
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>open eyes and I said, well, what's happened. Something is wrong? No, no,

440
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>she just said no, no, and we have a lunch.

441
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 1>And after she she said, you know one thing a

442
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>little strange. I look at you and I don't see you.

443
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>What I say was some strange. She really can't describe that.

444
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And she's just it's strange. It's like a bug of

445
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>whever it is. And okay, and that that's a After

446
00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a couple months we was talking and she stopped and

447
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>she stuppened to look at me again and she said, okay.

448
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>We was in the in the bedroom and she said, okay,

449
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll just go to the kitchen. But something as well, No, no,

450
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 1>it's okay. Well, and she got the kitchen. I'll just

451
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 1>follow her and say, what's going on. I know something

452
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that happened and she said, well, you remember I saw

453
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 1>that thing that but on you, not you, but another

454
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 1>few I saw this thing again. And well with the

455
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>sides of that time, we're looking for in the internet

456
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:40.759
<v Speaker 1>about different aliens. And she really don't care about this,

457
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but she blaems something there must be not just us

458
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 1>in the univest. But she really don't care about that.

459
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>And she's funny because she said, look, look this picture.

460
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like the same thing I saw when I look

461
00:30:55.799 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>at you twice. And that was like the infect y

462
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 1>pipe and the Okay, we just stay like that and

463
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 1>they don't talk anything more about that, and the and

464
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>we keep gone.

465
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<v Speaker 4>You don't always know you're in a cult.

466
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Not at first.

467
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 4>It feels like truth, like purpose, like home. Then the

468
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.920
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469
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.839
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470
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472
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473
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474
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475
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476
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477
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478
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they have another thing happened in the two thousand,

483
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eighteen, and that was happened with my daughter.

484
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 1>And there was about a missing time too, and I

485
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>was got divorced already, and uh, and my daughter and

486
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't pick up my daughter for the weekend. And

487
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 1>we go to my my parents and grand and we

488
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 1>got a dinner and we play a little big cards

489
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and and there was a little late and I said, okay,

490
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll we're leaving because this Sunday, my sister and her

491
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>husband they must be a wake up in the morning

492
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>early for work. We just leaving. And yeah, from that

493
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>town to the city where I live. In every they

494
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>have three different roads. One it's forty five kilometers, another

495
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>one forty two, and this one we always stay. There

496
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>was twenty nine. It's close to the farm. But that

497
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 1>that road is a little danger road because it's not

498
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to eye the road and you have a lot of

499
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 1>wild sports living over there. You must be real slow

500
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>with the car. Well, and we left from the house,

501
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>my parents' house, and when we got it at that road,

502
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I look at the watch of the car. There was

503
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 1>eleven pm. And matter of fact, my daughter looked too,

504
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 1>and the yeah, yes, eleven eleven pm. It's not the lake.

505
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>And okay, I want to go try tell you how

506
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>this world is. First, if you got another car come

507
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 1>come to you. You must give like f road quite

508
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>for another time, another f road for yours. So you

509
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.760
<v Speaker 1>can go past through, because I have a lot of

510
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>curves over there, and we must go inside on a

511
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>small village. All the main the main street, they have

512
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 1>a three big bumps. They have two stops, and they

513
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:27.519
<v Speaker 1>have another bump after the village, whereas the entrance to

514
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 1>the cemetery. Okay, and when they passed all that, if

515
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>you see in the left side, you saw the lights

516
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 1>from the city in the eva because it's in the

517
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 1>ill and you can see a little far away. Well,

518
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 1>that night it was real different. We come, we stop.

519
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Usually we stop in the little ill and a little

520
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>bit and they talk about the stars and the school.

521
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Usually we stop over there. Okay, well it's eleven o'clock.

522
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I drive and certainly I looked. I look at my

523
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 1>left side and I said, well, I talked to my daughter.

524
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Well there was lights already. Ever the lights, and there

525
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>was so close. It's about a mile from the city.

526
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 1>I say, what, I don't see that light before the

527
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 1>lights from the city. And the funny thing, my daughters

528
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 1>asked me, I don't remember we passed the village, you know,

529
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 1>and we must real part because we must be real slow.

530
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>And that time funny thing when you look at the

531
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:38.559
<v Speaker 1>clark there was eleven eleven twelve, there was just past

532
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 1>twelve minutes. I said, what is impossible we drive that

533
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>around in twelve minutes twenty nine kilometers. It's too many

534
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>obstacles for we must be slow. And my daughter turned

535
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.559
<v Speaker 1>to me and said, look that what were we talking

536
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>about all this this time? And I was in my

537
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>mind said well something will be happened or that was

538
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 1>happened here, and my daughter turned to me. He asked me, well,

539
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>we don't stop in the air. You're always stopping the

540
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>old except the rain days or rain nights. I have

541
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 1>no answer for her. And I said, look, I don't know.

542
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll maybe were sleeping or something. And so now

543
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not remember I'll be sleeping as well.

544
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 1>And I tried, not scared and just start with that

545
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 1>or talking what's what's happened that night? And but it

546
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>was funny because the next month when or we go

547
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 1>someplace far away, and she turned to me and she

548
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>has that time just eleven years old, and she said, look,

549
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, because i'm a driver's sold and then she said,

550
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 1>I hope we have another thing happened by that night.

551
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can really go fast. And this thing

552
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>is still in my mind, and so what's will happen

553
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 1>in that night? Well, in twenty nineteen, usually I was

554
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>going there in the place they have a Dolmen and

555
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I stay. I say, over there, and a lot of

556
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>things I saw over there, and I like, it's a

557
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>quiet place. And my dog until that day she was

558
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 1>she liked go over there with me. And one night

559
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>my son is already the United States, and I got

560
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a call for him. When I was there next to

561
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the Dolman and I was leaving. I just talked with

562
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.519
<v Speaker 1>him by in the cell phone, and she stayed right

563
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>in the front of the dominant. When the call is over,

564
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I walked next to her and she turned to me

565
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and said, Okay, let's go. I don't want to stay

566
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.280
<v Speaker 1>here anymore. I s, why, no, No, I don't want

567
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.599
<v Speaker 1>to stay here anymore. I said, okay, let's go. Okay.

568
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I was drived to home. When I go almost to

569
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 1>the at home, my daughter turned to me and said,

570
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, why I'm on leaving that place, because when

571
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 1>you was talking with you with my brother on cellphone,

572
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I look inside the Dolmen and all the domant the

573
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 1>inside the Dolmen, they come alike. There was a small

574
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>light and all filled the inside the Dolmen, and I

575
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>look in my back. Maybe there was a car, but no,

576
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a ranch. No roads in that area. And when

577
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.559
<v Speaker 1>I look again, I say, and looked at that light,

578
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and the instantly just appear. Everything comes dark again. And

579
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>from that day you liked over that day. But I

580
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.639
<v Speaker 1>can convince her go at night because she will scared.

581
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's happened that night, but she's real

582
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 1>scared about that place. You know. I think another thing

583
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>happened to me. There was in the twenty twenty one,

584
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>they're still in partial. I was at I will go

585
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 1>to sleep, and I was in the in the bed already,

586
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 1>and all the bedroom is dark. In that moment, under

587
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the window, the window it was closed, I saw a

588
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>small light come through the wall and stop under the window.

589
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I look at that and I stayed sit down in

590
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the bed, looked at that light, and they come another

591
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:46.639
<v Speaker 1>one from the same place, and stay next that one

592
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 1>and after the second they come to another one. There

593
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 1>was three lights and I just look at the lights.

594
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>The three light that's real small lights. And the lights

595
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>start like I don't know if you say, fly all

596
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 1>three together, and they start going around to the bed

597
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.599
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just looking at that light and say, what's

598
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>going on the weapon? They start my right side and

599
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 1>they go turn to the bed to the left side,

600
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and they look at that the light and that moment

601
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 1>all the same time, it looks like they was all together.

602
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>They come down and they go back again for the

603
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:31.159
<v Speaker 1>same place and they start moving again around around the bed.

604
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>They start under the window and just go through the

605
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>hall and just leaving. I stand up. I just turned

606
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:43.679
<v Speaker 1>the light on and just look around the bedroom. Nothing

607
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>was different. Just turn the light off and I'm just sleeping.

608
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 1>And then well about my about my daughter twenty twenty three,

609
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:57.159
<v Speaker 1>she called me after a while that thing to me

610
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>about after three four months. And when she called me that,

611
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 1>and one day I was picked up. I was in

612
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the drive and she turned to me saying, you know

613
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that one night I saw my ex wife. They called

614
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 1>me already and when you talk with her to try

615
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.280
<v Speaker 1>if she can't explain what's happened. But she just told

616
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 1>me that after months after you know, my mother told

617
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>me for talk with you about this stuff. I was

618
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:28.679
<v Speaker 1>in the bed and I look and there was a shadow,

619
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 1>a tall shadon next to the window. And I was afraid,

620
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>but I was keeping looking that shadon. Well, I don't

621
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 1>remember they left, that's the pier. I don't remember nothing.

622
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.599
<v Speaker 1>But in the morning I have a picture about that.

623
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>She has a mark like two three doubles at the

624
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.719
<v Speaker 1>top of the neck. In that morning, my ex wife

625
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>take her pictures and that thing they will stay for

626
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't remember anymore. There was two

627
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>three days and just one just the way it disappeared.

628
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 1>After that, one night she wakes up and she goes

629
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:16.599
<v Speaker 1>to the the lady room and this some like floating diamonds,

630
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.320
<v Speaker 1>she said, she called like that and she starts floating

631
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 1>around there and they were all in that room and

632
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 1>she's just walking and go to the bed and she said, oh,

633
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing will happen. I don't know what's up to that time,

634
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.559
<v Speaker 1>and with me and do with my daughter, just keep

635
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>doing stuff, you know, And like I said, this all

636
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.679
<v Speaker 1>my life. And that's the funny thing. Is because there

637
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 1>was not with just me. And one day we talked

638
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 1>about because this is the second it's the second book

639
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a while, it's the same, but it's in English. In

640
00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty ten I was they come at Ubert second twenty ten,

641
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 1>that was the first, the book coming portraits. And now

642
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 1>this year they can in English, the book coming English.

643
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I remember now what funny thing in the two thousand

644
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 1>and eleven October twenty ten and I was go to

645
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that dolmen and I will sit down over there and

646
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.079
<v Speaker 1>now with the book, not with the pages. And I

647
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>was going the top of the dolmen and I said,

648
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 1>look it's done, and now what's happened? What's going to

649
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.199
<v Speaker 1>be happened next? And it looks like so stupid the

650
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:40.039
<v Speaker 1>top by myself, and I was waiting and that moment,

651
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>this looks strange. But when I look for the stars,

652
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I have something come in my mind, like between nine

653
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>nine thirty pm, I have that, not just the feeling.

654
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 1>There was this like teleparty. Something said is the thing

655
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:59.119
<v Speaker 1>is not done yet a lot of things will be

656
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 1>happened the book. And it's funny because the thing said

657
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that the book they're gonna be around the world. I

658
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.559
<v Speaker 1>just think that I was confused because it's not a voice,

659
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:15.519
<v Speaker 1>it's just telepeity. And after a couple of years and

660
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I come back here to United States, and the things

661
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>keep going. You know, well, and this is the part

662
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of the mind story. You know, all the things happen.

663
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>For now, I believe the things doesn't start with that

664
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>night with my friend those genders so that light. But

665
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the things happened when I was But from when I

666
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>was one month old, my parents moved to German and

667
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I would just come back with pro portrayally ten years old.

668
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 1>And some strange stuffs happen over there too, and my

669
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 1>parents sometimes talking about that, okay. And the one thing

670
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>funny is, well, when the book come out and we

671
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 1>have a I'm a dinner a couple days after, and

672
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:07.519
<v Speaker 1>I have my uncle and my and my aunt and

673
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:11.119
<v Speaker 1>we start talking about some mystery and about the book,

674
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and they come that time I realized I was not

675
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 1>the first one in the family. My grandmother has that

676
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 1>paralys vibrations too, was she She died a long time ago.

677
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>But my uncle and my aunt and my mother to

678
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>start talking about that. And funny thing is my aunt

679
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>turned to my uncle and said, you know Manuel, you

680
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>remember when I was was kids and was in the

681
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:46.519
<v Speaker 1>bed and one day we saw a small lights, yellow lights.

682
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 1>They come from the roof the ceiling and they start dancing,

683
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and they said, they start dancing around to the bed,

684
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and my uncle said, oh yeah, I remember that. And

685
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.039
<v Speaker 1>my uncle said, and you remember in another house, we

686
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:03.639
<v Speaker 1>are playing in the bedroom and they come to that

687
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>small lights, real small, he said, yellow. I'm not sure.

688
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Now they start dancing around us and they just left.

689
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.440
<v Speaker 1>But that time they come from the wall and they

690
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.119
<v Speaker 1>just after they didn't dance around hers, they just left

691
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>through the wall. My uncle said. One of the thing

692
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.119
<v Speaker 1>real strange. There's so many lights and they make so

693
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 1>many maneuvers and they don't touch each other. And after

694
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that they're leaving. Well, And that moment I figure out

695
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I was not the first, and they think can be

696
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>in the line of my family looks like nine daughter

697
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>too now and I don't know why to go beyond

698
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>if when they if she has the kids, if they

699
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>keep going or not. I was talking about dot Jildomoa

700
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and when I met her after a while, I asked

701
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 1>her if she can make like agreassion because I won't

702
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 1>really know what's happened nineteen eighty six, that missing time

703
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and that time there was not happened when I talked

704
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>with her, there was not happen yet with my daughter

705
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:16.639
<v Speaker 1>that twelve minutes and she really made that and we go,

706
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we make a schedule for the creations. I record that creations.

707
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>After we did the creation, I suppose do another one,

708
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 1>but they come the Covie time and were not did.

709
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>And after that she left to Brazil and we'll be talking.

710
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:37.800
<v Speaker 1>But I wish I can do more special that twelve minutes.

711
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:41.400
<v Speaker 1>What's different because when I was in ninety eighty six,

712
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:45.039
<v Speaker 1>I feel I have a missing time thirty five minutes.

713
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 1>And the case with my daughter there was different. There

714
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>was not missing, but they have ahead of the time

715
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>because it's impossible we did that in twelve minutes. That

716
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>was different. Okay, when I did the de creations, what

717
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>they show in degrestions, there was night and I started

718
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.440
<v Speaker 1>saw a light and as I saw that light come

719
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:14.639
<v Speaker 1>close close to me, floating and suspend off the ground.

720
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Looks and I'm going through that light. I don't remember nothing.

721
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>If you have not decressons, I'm not remember nothing. This

722
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>this happened after I was inside the light. I was

723
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>on the table and they have a small beings. One

724
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>was in the my right side, another one in the

725
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:41.360
<v Speaker 1>left side, and they have one big one a little

726
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.679
<v Speaker 1>far away. And I remember they have something like a

727
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>window not to be gwind on. And in the on

728
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.119
<v Speaker 1>the top of me. I remember they have like a

729
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:58.280
<v Speaker 1>light yellow light point to me, to my body, and

730
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that moment I don't because I asked after the recasion,

731
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I asked to dotor Regilda, what I saw is wonder

732
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 1>that great being. They come so close to my face

733
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 1>look at me. And I asked to doctor Gilda, why

734
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 1>quite they do that? And she said, usually it's when

735
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:25.239
<v Speaker 1>we are so scary, and they do that for you.

736
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Come down and relax. I remember that in the hour

737
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.800
<v Speaker 1>on the table and my legs it's all open and

738
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 1>they have not pens. I start feeling some pain, not

739
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.199
<v Speaker 1>not real all that, but a little pain in my navel.

740
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.800
<v Speaker 1>And after that I start feel pain in my genital

741
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>ordance and and I don't remember I saw a yellow light.

742
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:02.440
<v Speaker 1>They start They start next fine genital organs until in

743
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:06.679
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the lakes a yellow light. Okay, when

744
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 1>I was next that two beans, that small beans, one

745
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 1>left another in the right side me. I saw another bean,

746
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 1>but a different one, and it comes not too close

747
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>to me, maybe mid and a half two meters, and

748
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>they look at me and and that moment it was

749
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.159
<v Speaker 1>different because the eyes is not in the front. It's

750
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:35.639
<v Speaker 1>black eyes too, but it's in the different position, the

751
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>eyes and the yeah, like it's closed. It's like a tunic,

752
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, a road. They just look and just turn

753
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and just walking away. And that bean looks like that

754
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 1>type they in the Ufo area they called insect tide.

755
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>And after that, I just remember I was in the

756
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:07.559
<v Speaker 1>bar room and the walls start turned to ping and blue,

757
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 1>blue and pink. After that, I just remember I was

758
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 1>on the road again and see that like going and

759
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:19.199
<v Speaker 1>that's it, just as was the creations. And that's just

760
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the main story of my life about UFOs.

761
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Antonio. What a fascinating story.

762
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I know.

763
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>And all this began in a little town in Portugal.

764
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they think that happened over there. There's sometimes that

765
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.079
<v Speaker 1>they happening year nine, state two.

766
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 2>So really these experiences have completely followed you throughout your

767
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>whole life, and not including yourself. But your father had

768
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.519
<v Speaker 2>a sighting with you your son to your daughter.

769
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And the one thing I saw is when

770
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the people come too close to me, like my ex girlfriend,

771
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:01.079
<v Speaker 1>they start saw the things too. You know. That's a lot,

772
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions and the answers.

773
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's usually the way you started your hypnotic

774
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:11.119
<v Speaker 2>regression in twenty nineteen, and that was Dr Gilder.

775
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, doctor Jilda Moore, she worked with the with John

776
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 1>mack here in the United States.

777
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 2>That's right. You began having these regressions, and obviously COVID happened,

778
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>and then that for a spanner in the works for that.

779
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Did you specifically touch on the mister two notable times

780
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.800
<v Speaker 2>you had missing time, which was nineteen eighty six and

781
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:33.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen.

782
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, because you know about nineteen eighty six, my friend said,

783
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know nothink about missing time. I even

784
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:45.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know the world UFO. Just later, and when I

785
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>look at the watch, it's seven forty five pm. And

786
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.559
<v Speaker 1>this is why I'm sure about the time. And when

787
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I was with my daughter, we show because both look

788
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:58.960
<v Speaker 1>at the watch. I look at the watching the car watch,

789
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 1>and she'll had the cell phone. There was eleven pm.

790
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And when we remember again was in the road. There

791
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:11.440
<v Speaker 1>was eleven twelve, twelve minutes after and that's it's impossible

792
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that road. Sometimes I said, I give ten thousand dollars,

793
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>which one driver can't do that with all that obstacles

794
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 1>in twelve minutes, it's impossible. And there was good. There

795
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.920
<v Speaker 1>was another people with me, you know, because something happened

796
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:33.360
<v Speaker 1>that my daughter asked me that I don't remember. We

797
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:36.639
<v Speaker 1>go pass through that village. I don't remember what we're

798
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:40.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about all this way, you know, and especially we

799
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.440
<v Speaker 1>stopping that tale. We don't remember nothing. But it's different.

800
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.440
<v Speaker 2>You're thinking of having more regression. What experience are you

801
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>thinking to explore.

802
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 1>One of them? Is this one the twelve minutes and

803
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:57.000
<v Speaker 1>another one nineteen eighty six? I don't think. So it's

804
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that cogreation the doctor children what I think, Doctor JULDI

805
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>there was the first one when I saw that white light,

806
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:09.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, and after that I with my friends because

807
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in that time, I can tell you the different times

808
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:16.119
<v Speaker 1>there was between I saw the first time and until

809
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:19.840
<v Speaker 1>my friends come with me and both sew the the light,

810
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 1>you know. But you know, because the age when the

811
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:26.480
<v Speaker 1>regression looks like I have like ten maybe twelve years old,

812
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:29.159
<v Speaker 1>but it looks like I was a kid, you know,

813
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and ninety eighty six, I have twenty years old already,

814
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.079
<v Speaker 1>And of course now there was a couple of years ago.

815
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Sure, So it could be that there's things that have

816
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:43.280
<v Speaker 2>happened that you know, you don't remember, and with regression

817
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.039
<v Speaker 2>you can go back, especially when you were younger, to

818
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:46.960
<v Speaker 2>see what happened.

819
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and that time when the light with my friend,

820
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking there was the first time. But I

821
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>start thinking about things happened in German when I was

822
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a real kid, and for strange things, and I asked

823
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:05.920
<v Speaker 1>my parents and to my family they lived in German too.

824
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Anybody knows that because I have one parents. And this

825
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:13.440
<v Speaker 1>is funny thing is I was remembered just as small.

826
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Remember it's I was walking with my father. This is

827
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>in German, and I have like five years old or

828
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 1>less than that. I walked between the trees and the

829
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:30.400
<v Speaker 1>parking and I asked my mother. I said, I was sick,

830
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:34.880
<v Speaker 1>or what's happened when my father walked with me in

831
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the park. Almost every day I remember that, And my

832
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.760
<v Speaker 1>mother said, I don't remember nothing that and even my

833
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:46.039
<v Speaker 1>cousin said the same and my aunt, well, we remember

834
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>your father will walk with you in the parking. Like

835
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, sometimes we have something in the brain. It's locked.

836
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Whatever they're doing, they like that stuff. And for some reason,

837
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.599
<v Speaker 1>like they happened in that meeting the name of the

838
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 1>think it apo with the fielder and they come unlock

839
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the brain and just start. I remember something happened, and

840
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I have that little frame about walking with my father.

841
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And one day I was watching a movie. This happened

842
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 1>here in Modestine. I watched the movie. I don't know

843
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the name of the movie, but it was with Tom Hanks.

844
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:26.000
<v Speaker 1>That's something here about mafia and it's a movie and

845
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the Tom Anks look at the mirror and when he

846
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 1>turned this is in the movie. And I watched the

847
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 1>movie and that moment, that little frame I have about

848
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the man with me in the park they come unlock

849
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>another little frame, and I never forget that little frame

850
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and that moment I understand why nobody remember I was

851
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>walking with my father, because I don't know if it's

852
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:58.880
<v Speaker 1>it's real or not, but they never was my father

853
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:03.199
<v Speaker 1>that man. And then I'll explain why that little friend

854
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:06.880
<v Speaker 1>come out. When I saw that movie, that part of

855
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the movie and I remember I look and I said, oh,

856
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 1>how much. Now they'll stay here up until one o'clock

857
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:18.519
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, because I call the in Portugal it's nine,

858
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'll call my mother and I want to ask

859
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you some stuff like the clothes, my father where and

860
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:29.079
<v Speaker 1>who I was in German, you know. But it was

861
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that kind of question. I know the answer ready, you know.

862
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.639
<v Speaker 1>And I wait till one o'clock in the morning. And

863
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I called my mother, and I want to be real

864
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:42.599
<v Speaker 1>careful because my mother understands something about yeah, for an alien.

865
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>She tried to say, I don't remember. She denied the

866
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>muster things. I don't know why, but she did that.

867
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>And I asked my mother, oh, let's go talk again

868
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:58.320
<v Speaker 1>about that walking in the parking. She said, I don't remember, okay,

869
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>And I believe because nobody And I said, you know,

870
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.480
<v Speaker 1>even my father used when go walking in the parking

871
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:14.039
<v Speaker 1>or go someplace without without work, used like laddle gloves.

872
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 1>And my mother said no, she just used the gloves

873
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:21.000
<v Speaker 1>for working. And I said, look, what about the head,

874
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 1>And I just described the head that man ass and

875
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>she said, but I know that She goes said no,

876
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:33.199
<v Speaker 1>she said, no, no, they use all that kind of

877
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:37.639
<v Speaker 1>type of the Portuguese men used that kind of type

878
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:41.159
<v Speaker 1>of head and said, okay, okay, I remember, and at

879
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that time my father was real sick and matter of fact,

880
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it passed away the last name and what I saw

881
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:52.599
<v Speaker 1>another frame there was, I was walking with that man

882
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.199
<v Speaker 1>where I think all my life, I can't believe I

883
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>think this from what was I live in German until

884
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, ago Another piece of frame there was. I

885
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>was walking with that man and I pull him because

886
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to run away, and it turned and when

887
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:15.679
<v Speaker 1>he turned, the face is not what there was not

888
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.239
<v Speaker 1>my father. There was a face, a man with like

889
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:24.719
<v Speaker 1>seventy five years old, and you know the face, the

890
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:28.119
<v Speaker 1>skin in the face, they have more skin for the

891
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:33.280
<v Speaker 1>face like you know, and the eyes it's real black.

892
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's it. I don't remember anything more after that,

893
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:39.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know that. I don't know. There

894
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 1>can be just me and thinking and try to find

895
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>out what's happened or something really happened, and it's one

896
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:53.039
<v Speaker 1>more time I was missing timer or something happened with me.

897
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Very interesting, Antonio. And it was always very difficult to

898
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.159
<v Speaker 2>talk about things like this to your mother. She always

899
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 2>tried to kind of avoid the subject that she.

900
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I remember when we start talking

901
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.599
<v Speaker 1>to me and my and my friend sand about that

902
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and and and we start learning the word the UFO

903
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:18.519
<v Speaker 1>because we start reading the newspapers and something happened that

904
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 1>time in Spain. And uh, when we talk talking with

905
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the people and everybody left, you know there's ah your

906
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:30.960
<v Speaker 1>curage and you know this guy is nuts about UFOs

907
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I think this is why my mother tried

908
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to deny and no one talking for because we live

909
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.239
<v Speaker 1>in this small town one thousand people and it's not

910
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:44.199
<v Speaker 1>a city. Everybody knows everybody. And I think this is

911
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 1>why she denied. But she denied kill today. That is

912
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:48.599
<v Speaker 1>the problem.

913
01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Even after you've written your book.

914
01:00:50.679 --> 01:01:01.480
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915
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:05.159
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916
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918
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919
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921
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922
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923
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924
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925
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.199
<v Speaker 2>When did you first decide you were going to write

926
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a book, and do you feel that experiences along the

927
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.239
<v Speaker 2>way have compelled you to write it?

928
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and and always even I don't know the

929
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:09.360
<v Speaker 1>word ufo, but always I have that feeling. When I

930
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:13.719
<v Speaker 1>saw that, like right away, the next day, I start

931
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.360
<v Speaker 1>right take things from the Bible from another manuscript, and

932
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that I know forever they happened that night they changed

933
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:24.599
<v Speaker 1>my mind. I was a kid, maybe twelve, after years old,

934
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:29.239
<v Speaker 1>become interested about all the religions and the and the

935
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:34.079
<v Speaker 1>one funny thing is I take some stuff from the Bible.

936
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's go do the example the Bible, you know, and

937
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:42.199
<v Speaker 1>and I can't see my mind, not like religion, but

938
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:48.960
<v Speaker 1>like advanced technology from another civilization. And I like that docky,

939
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that shepherd of the Bible. This this, this, this,

940
01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I can give you an example. It's in my book

941
01:02:56.639 --> 01:03:00.800
<v Speaker 1>when the time the Moses left from a ship, when

942
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:03.719
<v Speaker 1>they go in the desert, and they have two angels

943
01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:06.559
<v Speaker 1>in the front with them, big cloud in the in

944
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the sky at day and the big light at night.

945
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:12.320
<v Speaker 1>When I was a kid, and that thing I look

946
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 1>at that thing, I do'st see that like a religion.

947
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:18.920
<v Speaker 1>What I saw is a technology. And I know something

948
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:23.400
<v Speaker 1>happened over there in that night. They change me and

949
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:27.360
<v Speaker 1>they teach me. And one thing I have from that

950
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:32.679
<v Speaker 1>night is I believe in our time, it's just one time.

951
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 1>And we talk about seventeens, you know, and in Portugal

952
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you have just one one channel. And plus it's politic

953
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 1>all the time because there was the seventy four and

954
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:45.519
<v Speaker 1>the war, and it's political all the time. A kid,

955
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:49.639
<v Speaker 1>and I tell for my friends, look believe me. We

956
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:53.039
<v Speaker 1>have not three times. We have not past present and feud.

957
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:56.679
<v Speaker 1>We have just one time, the present, you know. And

958
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:59.679
<v Speaker 1>now when I say now, I say after years, you know,

959
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the scientists you can see now that ideas I have

960
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:06.480
<v Speaker 1>been seventeen after I saw the light, and I write

961
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:09.159
<v Speaker 1>in the book all that things. I know it's a

962
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 1>connection because there was so many things different. Why I

963
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 1>was just a simple kid. I've got like played soccer

964
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and play with another kid. That's it that's what I

965
01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:26.199
<v Speaker 1>was after that. Well, I remember some friends might say, look,

966
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:30.119
<v Speaker 1>you'll be at home all the time now because it's

967
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a small town and we stay at at night, like

968
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.599
<v Speaker 1>two three o'clock in the morning. Nothing happened that in

969
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:38.119
<v Speaker 1>that town in bad things.

970
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:40.480
<v Speaker 2>You were just a kid. I mean, you're right, it

971
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.960
<v Speaker 2>was nineteen seventies. You write playing among the olive groves,

972
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.639
<v Speaker 2>and there's things that you have in your book from

973
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:49.400
<v Speaker 2>years and years ago, a lot of stuff we're just

974
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:50.360
<v Speaker 2>learning now.

975
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's always I said, for our technology.

976
01:04:56.840 --> 01:05:00.599
<v Speaker 1>But this is why I learned that night too, technology

977
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:04.800
<v Speaker 1>from more advanced Come. Let the take like Bible, we

978
01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:07.960
<v Speaker 1>always can have the answer in the Bible, but you

979
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:12.360
<v Speaker 1>must reading the right in the right term. This is

980
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.559
<v Speaker 1>why I have a lot of religions, because we can

981
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:19.840
<v Speaker 1>read in the Bible in the different different ways. But

982
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 1>if you read the Bible in the in the way

983
01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of the technology, you find a lot of things, a

984
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:30.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of coincidence. The same thing with the people saw

985
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:35.039
<v Speaker 1>and I saw that lights what the Moses or is

986
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 1>the kal or whatever the prophets is, they saw and

987
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.760
<v Speaker 1>they right in the Bible. We talked just in the Bible.

988
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:44.360
<v Speaker 1>If you go talk about India and they talk about

989
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:47.639
<v Speaker 1>humanas and all that kind of things, you will see,

990
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:50.519
<v Speaker 1>well we think it's new. There was not new one

991
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:54.559
<v Speaker 1>thousands thousand years ago. Some civilizations that the same year

992
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:57.679
<v Speaker 1>in our planet and they come here for teachers.

993
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah, when you start looking at things like flying

994
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:06.400
<v Speaker 2>shields and fiery chariots and look at them as if

995
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 2>there you know, this technology is what it is. And

996
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:12.599
<v Speaker 2>in the case of India, for instance, I mean there's

997
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:16.119
<v Speaker 2>still physical effects that you can see in the country.

998
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Came from the old Sanskrit stories of some kind of

999
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:25.199
<v Speaker 2>nuclear event which happened, which you know. Yeah, Antonio, you

1000
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 2>said you have been drawn to sacred sites. What do

1001
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.719
<v Speaker 2>you feel when when you would visit these places? Because

1002
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you went to Fatima? Is that right in Portugal?

1003
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:37.440
<v Speaker 1>That's right? Yeah. Yeah, when I was and I was

1004
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:42.000
<v Speaker 1>in Fatima, I was my first picture in the book

1005
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:45.719
<v Speaker 1>they come in my mind. In Fatima, I was there

1006
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:48.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't August, I think, and there was a real art

1007
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and I go, I go to lay down in the

1008
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.159
<v Speaker 1>grass under the tree. In that moment I look at

1009
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the tree, what I saw is out of relations comes

1010
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, like we have one religions and after that

1011
01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:09.639
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of different religions. Let they'll see borner come

1012
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:14.079
<v Speaker 1>from from that beginner. You know, that is what I

1013
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.320
<v Speaker 1>saw in Fatima. But I don't know if you know

1014
01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the lady Fina Delmada. There was a famous lady and

1015
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 1>she's studying the Miracle of Fatima. I don't know if

1016
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you if you know about miracle of Fatima. Matter of fact,

1017
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:33.920
<v Speaker 1>there was happened the miracle Sun. You know, the sun

1018
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:37.079
<v Speaker 1>dance in Fatima. I don't know if you know about that.

1019
01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:40.320
<v Speaker 2>It's very famous. Let me to explain to the listeners.

1020
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.760
<v Speaker 2>So what Antonio is referring to was an event which

1021
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:47.280
<v Speaker 2>happened in Fatima in Portugal, and it was in nine

1022
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I think nineteen seventeen seventeen. Yeah, and it was a

1023
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:56.159
<v Speaker 2>supernatural event and it was witnessed by a good fifty

1024
01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:58.760
<v Speaker 2>to one hundred thousand people witnesses.

1025
01:07:58.800 --> 01:07:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Again.

1026
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's known as the Miracle of the Sun.

1027
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It's absolutely fascinating, and it was the apparition, allegedly the

1028
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.000
<v Speaker 2>apparition of the Virgin Mary.

1029
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But the people know the church, try know all,

1030
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:17.079
<v Speaker 1>tell the people all that story you know about the

1031
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:22.399
<v Speaker 1>dance son. But when I met Fina Darmada, she was

1032
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:27.359
<v Speaker 1>a teacher in the college. She turned to me said,

1033
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:31.199
<v Speaker 1>because she saw me on the talk show on TV

1034
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:36.239
<v Speaker 1>in Portugal, and there was twenty ten one. They come

1035
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the book and I go three times on talk shows

1036
01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:44.000
<v Speaker 1>different channels, and she called me and were talking everythime,

1037
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a good friend. She passed away two thousand fourteen. I

1038
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:51.359
<v Speaker 1>think because the Fatima's time with the appears with the

1039
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:56.319
<v Speaker 1>angel to the three kids, and after that, after a

1040
01:08:56.399 --> 01:08:59.720
<v Speaker 1>couple of times the appears to the kids, they come

1041
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:05.399
<v Speaker 1>the Lady of Fatima appears in the inside a light

1042
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and okay, everybody knows that that is not not secret.

1043
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 1>But she said, you know, everybody knows about angels, about

1044
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:20.439
<v Speaker 1>the sun dance, about all that stuff, but nobody knows

1045
01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:24.439
<v Speaker 1>this thing. Start with a code and eveness no too.

1046
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I said what code? He said, well, we have a code.

1047
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:32.119
<v Speaker 1>It's one three five, one ninety seven. And the relations

1048
01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:38.119
<v Speaker 1>turned that in one three May nine one seven the year.

1049
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:41.720
<v Speaker 1>But this is wrong because it's just this is what

1050
01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the church did. But the really there was a full

1051
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:50.520
<v Speaker 1>name and they appears to appear for three people in

1052
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the different parts of the Portugal in the same night

1053
01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:58.119
<v Speaker 1>at the mirror. There's a story like that. Okay, and yes,

1054
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.479
<v Speaker 1>but what is the what it means that that number?

1055
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:04.680
<v Speaker 1>And she said, I don't know. I was working with

1056
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:09.479
<v Speaker 1>my friend and we try to figure out. Try the numbers.

1057
01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:14.439
<v Speaker 1>We did, Matt, we did everything. Look, I can figure

1058
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:18.439
<v Speaker 1>out and we'll be studying that from seventy eight nineteen

1059
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:21.640
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight. Portuguese government pay for them for the study.

1060
01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 1>And she said, look, maybe you can figure out something.

1061
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, let me thinking about that. They give me

1062
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:32.960
<v Speaker 1>some days and we have not one hundred percent working that.

1063
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I have my job and my family and said, okay,

1064
01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:38.560
<v Speaker 1>but I gotta try to figure out something. I try

1065
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 1>to figure out everything possible, say numbers, but one thing

1066
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I have is almost all the monuments and secret place.

1067
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:55.359
<v Speaker 1>They have something with relations with the stars and the sky. Wow,

1068
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.239
<v Speaker 1>this thing they can be not changed too much, they

1069
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:02.279
<v Speaker 1>will be I'll be thinking, we'll do it. And I said, look,

1070
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:06.159
<v Speaker 1>and I think I told from my ex wife. I said, look,

1071
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 1>if the dore's more here like cold Nations, longitude, lettitude,

1072
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:15.000
<v Speaker 1>know all that that thing, there must be something in

1073
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the sky. I go to the Google and I found

1074
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:22.279
<v Speaker 1>a style with one three five ninety one seven. And

1075
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:26.159
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because in that time I have mind cell

1076
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:32.119
<v Speaker 1>phone already somebody listening to my when when I call,

1077
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and I can't feel different mind cell phone because Fatim's real.

1078
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Even now, there's still a big secret for in Portugal,

1079
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of people don't want touch in that.

1080
01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a funny story. One day, they have a

1081
01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:54.439
<v Speaker 1>meeting in Lisbon, I said, some government people. And what

1082
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:56.880
<v Speaker 1>they said They go have a meeting that the sepend

1083
01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:59.319
<v Speaker 1>in Lisbon, and I was there. I was invited for

1084
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:04.319
<v Speaker 1>by the of the Apple and they give all kinds

1085
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:07.279
<v Speaker 1>of answers they can possibly give them because there was

1086
01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the work for the government and they have military people

1087
01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:13.000
<v Speaker 1>over there by. And that said, I let me just

1088
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:17.800
<v Speaker 1>ask one thing, what about Fatima, the guy that looks

1089
01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:21.119
<v Speaker 1>like a coronels He said, we don't talk about that.

1090
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:24.199
<v Speaker 1>We can even talk about that, and okay, and that

1091
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:27.600
<v Speaker 1>that was the answer. I said, okay, And I found

1092
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:31.479
<v Speaker 1>that style. But now before I tell to Fina, I

1093
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:36.039
<v Speaker 1>found the start can be relative with the code, because

1094
01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I think like that if you go if the man

1095
01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:43.680
<v Speaker 1>go to another planet and there was the planet forever

1096
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:48.520
<v Speaker 1>living over there and it's behind the technology. We must

1097
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:52.760
<v Speaker 1>show them and we must talk the way, for they

1098
01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:56.199
<v Speaker 1>understand where we come from, where the star we come from.

1099
01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think it's okay. If that being

1100
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:04.479
<v Speaker 1>come nineteen seventeen, what they do they can't say, okay,

1101
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I started some name they call in that that planet.

1102
01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Now it must say the name of the star, the

1103
01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:14.760
<v Speaker 1>same name you have via in the in the our planet.

1104
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Now you have. I have a problem is if this

1105
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:24.479
<v Speaker 1>sty is discover already by the astronomy. And I said, well,

1106
01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the best answer it must send a male to NASA

1107
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and its a in nine states. And this isn't And

1108
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, I send him male, and I never think

1109
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:43.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't give me answer. After twenty four hours, the

1110
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:46.000
<v Speaker 1>NASA send me a male and I have all the

1111
01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:50.479
<v Speaker 1>chapter is everything in the book, all the informations of

1112
01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:54.079
<v Speaker 1>the star. And that was funny because there was not

1113
01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:57.920
<v Speaker 1>all the stars. It's a b star. It's two stars.

1114
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And you don't you don't listen. The church don't tell

1115
01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:05.720
<v Speaker 1>you when the sun danced, there was one just one

1116
01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:10.439
<v Speaker 1>they said, just one, one light. But there was not.

1117
01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:14.880
<v Speaker 1>The Finna found in the archive of the factim there

1118
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:18.520
<v Speaker 1>was two sons, not one. And I have a picture

1119
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:22.159
<v Speaker 1>to send me, a picture from a friend from a

1120
01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 1>reporter Italian party. They take in nineteen seven when this happened.

1121
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:29.880
<v Speaker 1>They take that picture and you can't see two. There

1122
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:33.039
<v Speaker 1>was no sons. After this is like tho was like

1123
01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:36.880
<v Speaker 1>some object flying. You know, there was two, not one.

1124
01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I said, Okay, if I tell this new to the

1125
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to the Fena by phone, maybe we have a problem.

1126
01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Because she was she has a problem already in the

1127
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:52.720
<v Speaker 1>career like a teacher. Okay, now I can't got a

1128
01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:57.640
<v Speaker 1>problem with myself. And I send them by post office,

1129
01:14:58.039 --> 01:15:03.319
<v Speaker 1>the normal thing. And she got that, and she's a

1130
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:06.720
<v Speaker 1>real surprised. She's a little surprise because they can't be

1131
01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:09.600
<v Speaker 1>they can't. This is just a theory. Of of course,

1132
01:15:09.640 --> 01:15:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't prove anything. But I was proove is we

1133
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:18.439
<v Speaker 1>know that our astronomy know about that style eighteen seventy six.

1134
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm not sure about that. There was before

1135
01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:28.520
<v Speaker 1>what's happened in Fatima, and some witness in that day

1136
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:34.000
<v Speaker 1>they saw a light and beings a wave to the people.

1137
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:37.279
<v Speaker 1>This thing is not tough for the church. But they

1138
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:40.880
<v Speaker 1>find that in the archive and they seventeen seven, eighteen

1139
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:45.560
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven, talk with the witness. Someone there was alive, well,

1140
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:51.199
<v Speaker 1>a little confused and a little trouble because even not

1141
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the church. And that time there was a reporter from

1142
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the newspaper and they want talk with me, and then

1143
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.439
<v Speaker 1>they make me a two view interview. And I talked

1144
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:05.720
<v Speaker 1>about that and I said, okay, I don't tell you

1145
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:10.079
<v Speaker 1>some but after that in off, I don't tell you

1146
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:13.600
<v Speaker 1>another stuff I can't tell you on but there must

1147
01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:17.880
<v Speaker 1>be off. You please don't write that down in the newspaper.

1148
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:20.920
<v Speaker 1>You got be trouble with that, and you write everything

1149
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:22.720
<v Speaker 1>down in the newspaper. As a matter of fact, there

1150
01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:27.119
<v Speaker 1>was in the center of the paper the newspaper all

1151
01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:31.399
<v Speaker 1>that two pages of all that stuff. I told them

1152
01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:34.239
<v Speaker 1>some I say, for that's ma they can write. And

1153
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:37.760
<v Speaker 1>someone I said, this is gonna be off. Nobody can

1154
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:40.760
<v Speaker 1>know that. You know, they probably that the part they

1155
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:44.039
<v Speaker 1>got fired. And one day I was in the hospital

1156
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.479
<v Speaker 1>and there was the it was I wasn't hospital, I'll

1157
01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:51.119
<v Speaker 1>work over there, and it was with a wife. And

1158
01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that was a funny thing because it said, oh, look

1159
01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the man that we're talking blauh blah blah blah,

1160
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:01.159
<v Speaker 1>and the wife is real smile. And when he said,

1161
01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:04.199
<v Speaker 1>look this is what the man told me about the

1162
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:07.199
<v Speaker 1>UFOs and the Fatima. Look you must see the face

1163
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:10.199
<v Speaker 1>of the wife. And I feel like that makes me

1164
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:13.800
<v Speaker 1>really believe he got a fire because that they're right

1165
01:17:13.880 --> 01:17:17.560
<v Speaker 1>down in the newspaper about that secret of Fatima. It's

1166
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:21.079
<v Speaker 1>a little strange. I'm still a little strange. Why NASA

1167
01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:24.159
<v Speaker 1>right away, in less than twenty four hours they send

1168
01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:27.680
<v Speaker 1>me for different people send informations about that style.

1169
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's very peculiar to our listeners. A binary star

1170
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:35.800
<v Speaker 2>is basically two sons which evolve around each other. I

1171
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:38.880
<v Speaker 2>think the closest binary system we have to like to

1172
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Earth would be Alpha Centauri.

1173
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:43.920
<v Speaker 1>There must be. But this one is real deep. I

1174
01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 1>remember when I was in with the Google that you know,

1175
01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:52.159
<v Speaker 1>you can't see real tribe, real deep in the in

1176
01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:55.399
<v Speaker 1>the cosmos. Find that star, you know, I don't know

1177
01:17:55.479 --> 01:18:00.800
<v Speaker 1>what they looks like what the NASA send me even there.

1178
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:05.479
<v Speaker 1>It's not from any constellation. It's just two stars somewhere.

1179
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:10.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, two stars somewhere, and these two stars could

1180
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:12.920
<v Speaker 2>well have other planets around it.

1181
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I said, it's a theory. It's my theory

1182
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:19.319
<v Speaker 1>can prove nothing, you know, but it looks like there

1183
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:23.319
<v Speaker 1>must be at least one one planet. And what I

1184
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:27.079
<v Speaker 1>believe is where they come from. That that beans from

1185
01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:32.479
<v Speaker 1>the Fatima. It's another thing. It's in partial. It's one

1186
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:35.399
<v Speaker 1>of the place you can recall at spot. You know,

1187
01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:39.479
<v Speaker 1>you saw more ufoss in the Fatima and the Tomorrow

1188
01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and to mar. It's funny because the king times when

1189
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:49.960
<v Speaker 1>when the pope try destroyed the call that the crusade,

1190
01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:54.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, and the crusades tart again into mark next

1191
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to Fatima, you know, and we call for fin their mother.

1192
01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Fatima can be can take us the human beings together

1193
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:08.319
<v Speaker 1>with the two relations and one because I don't believe

1194
01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the coincidence. But the daughter of the mam there was

1195
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Fatima too, you know. Maybe they tried that beings try

1196
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:20.119
<v Speaker 1>telling something. It's timeful we stop the war. I don't know.

1197
01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:23.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just just talking, you know, just talking.

1198
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Patima can't be too far away from muru Rere

1199
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to be close by to where you first witnessed your life.

1200
01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Fatim. It's about aren't something cool meat about the area

1201
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:37.479
<v Speaker 1>where I saw all that? Think we have a lot

1202
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:40.039
<v Speaker 1>of domens. We have a lot of megalis. We have

1203
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:42.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of history over.

1204
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:44.880
<v Speaker 2>There, you know, absolutely a lot of history.

1205
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:49.279
<v Speaker 1>And you have the three chromix, famous chromix. One of

1206
01:19:49.319 --> 01:19:52.560
<v Speaker 1>them is one of the famous chromits in Europe they

1207
01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:55.640
<v Speaker 1>call the Alamanders. I don't know how many stones there,

1208
01:19:55.680 --> 01:19:58.119
<v Speaker 1>but they have a lot of tourists to go over there. Well,

1209
01:19:58.600 --> 01:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a city tourists. You know, you still have a road,

1210
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the streets. The road it's made by the Romans two

1211
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:11.319
<v Speaker 1>thousands years ago. You know, you can't see how all

1212
01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the city is.

1213
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:15.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, so if it was made by the Romans,

1214
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the roads are still in perfect work in order.

1215
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, about a couple of years ago they stop,

1216
01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:25.640
<v Speaker 1>let the cards going and just the people walking now,

1217
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:29.479
<v Speaker 1>just for people for they don't dare much more dead.

1218
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.039
<v Speaker 1>But they still you know, we talk about two thousands

1219
01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>something years old.

1220
01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:35.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, they've built those roads to last. They really

1221
01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:39.399
<v Speaker 2>did wonderful stuff. Antonio. Let me let me just just

1222
01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.720
<v Speaker 2>share your book a second to our listeners. If you

1223
01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:47.800
<v Speaker 2>want to dive deeper into Antonio's story, his book Gods

1224
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:53.079
<v Speaker 2>or Civilizations from the Stars expands on everything he has

1225
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:57.720
<v Speaker 2>talked about tonight. The encounters the dreams and the discoveries

1226
01:20:57.800 --> 01:21:03.119
<v Speaker 2>that link humanity to something far beyond earth. Now, Antonio,

1227
01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:06.199
<v Speaker 2>your book is available on Amazon. I'll put the link

1228
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:10.239
<v Speaker 2>to Antonio's book below a description and on the website,

1229
01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:13.359
<v Speaker 2>but definitely do check it out. Absolutely fascinating.

1230
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

1231
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate you coming on and sharing that for

1232
01:21:16.920 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 2>our listeners.

1233
01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, thank you for the time. I really like tell

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01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:23.319
<v Speaker 1>my star and listen stars.

1235
01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:26.199
<v Speaker 2>It was wonderful to hear it today and it was

1236
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:28.079
<v Speaker 2>wonderful to meet you to Antonio.

1237
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That's the same.

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01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Please keep in contact, okay and we will speak soon.

1239
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Sir, will bye for now, okay, thank you all right.

1240
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, that is all for this week. Keep updated and

1241
01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:45.319
<v Speaker 2>connect with the show on x Facebook and Instagram. And

1242
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:47.520
<v Speaker 2>if you have an encounter that you'd like to share

1243
01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:51.760
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles

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<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com, or you can reach out to

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<v Speaker 2>me via the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles

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<v Speaker 2>podcast dot com. A big thank you to Antonio for

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<v Speaker 2>sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I will

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<v Speaker 2>be back next week. Till then, stay safe, keep watching

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<v Speaker 2>the skies. Goodbye,