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the war between Israel and Hamas, and then people sent
in texts and this was my fault at the time.
I did not get to read them during that hour.
I will read them now if I can, because there's
some crossover anyway. So but again I'm reading from this
text line and on the feed. Whenever somebody sends in
another text, it then bounces the feeds. So right, I'm
gonna try here. Alan says, this prevalent behavior. This is
the uh, you know, the the method in which Hamas
and Isis and al Qaeda and and going back through
you know, the historical record, this is a you know
a common theme in the Islamic conquest of Christendom, and uh,
they're you know, and all civilizations and societies and tribes
and everybody that they conquered when they spread over the millennium.
So Allan says, the this prevalent behavior of rape and
attacks comes from the historical structure of the Ottoman Empire.
If you that's it. It predates the Ottoman Empire. The
Ottoman Empire did it, but it is rooted in the
ideology because that's what gives them the permission to do
these things. You're allowed to do them, you are you're
called to do them in for the like in the
murder or incense. If you were not of the conquering class,
then all atrocities are tolerated. Others were treated as subhuman
and this includes slavery and sexual brutality towards male and
female alike. It was considered normal behavior. I don't know
who this is, anonymous. This should have been done with
months ago. We're talking about the siege on or the
the invasion now of Gaza City that is underway by
the Israelis. War is fought have asked so it lingers
and lingers and lingers forget the hostages and finish it
already well and that. But that's the problem is that
you've got the political leadership in Israel that has you know,
essentially the political left, the secular left or secular Israeli,
secular Jews in Israel, that their focus is get all
the hostages back, cut whatever deal, get them back, just
end it right, and then you've got a more religious,
you know, more orthodox Jewish part of the electorate. They're like,
you know, some of them are like, well, you know,
it's mainly our sons and daughters that are going out
there and dying because they make up apparently, you know,
greater portion of the military or something. So yeah, I
don't know. There are political internal pressures going on in
Israel as well. But this is actually the proof that
this is not this is not genocide in Gaza. The
proof is that it has taken this long. And if
you are going If ever you needed an excuse for
wiping out every single human being in Gaza, you had
it on October seventh. You could have gone in there
and leveled the place. If you didn't care about the hostages,
all you wanted to do was just commit quote genocide.
That would have been the way to do it. That
would have been the time and and then let everybody
be outraged rather than doing what they have been doing
for the last almost two years now. This is from
Roland who says, if Homeboys Hamas are such warriors, why
do they have their women out and about in the
media fighting the right to exist. I'm not following that
Hamas or cowards. Anyone that supports their party should be
considered terrorist sympathizers. I love the show well because they
put their civilians in front of the fighters in order
to have the Israelis kill them. That's the point. People
think that Hamas doesn't want the gozens to die, but
they do. That's the strategy. It's literally the strategy is
to get your own people killed. And no military force,
no nation has ever dealt with an enemy that is
seeking to have its people killed. Not just like, okay,
we can tolerate certain casualties, we can tolerate certain numbers
of losses. That's not this. This is we need our
people to be killed because that's how we win in
the court of public opinion. They know they can't win militarily.
That's why they built tunnels like rats so they can
hide because they know they can't beat the Israeli military.
We have seen tunnels before in Vietnam, true, but not
to this extent, not under an urban setting with densely
packed populations living above Dan signor As a podcast geared
specifically towards Israeli issues, He's done at least two episodes
centered on Gosen's starvation. Two key claims his guests may
aid that the Gods of Humanitarian Foundation was centered around
the idea of controlling the pickup location for aid, meaning
it's not always close to population centers, and if civilians
take a turn down a wrong road, they could end
up facing a small IDF garrison which could feel threatened.
And two Unruah, which was like, it's completely corrupt. The
u n r w A that you know ran the
schools and supposedly the humanitarian aid and stuff, but it's
been completely infiltrated by Hamas, that it was bringing in
a lot of money, and now that GHF and some
institutions who would like would like to see that reverted,
will all be all too happy to promote instances that
make it look bad. Right, So the what Hamas has
been promoting and the people who are propagandists either because
they hate Israel and Jews, or they hate or they
love Hamas uh and they you know, they're wanting to
spread this message, or they're stupid. I guess that would be.
The other is that there is a propaganda benefit for
Gosins to be killed while trying to get food, right
And yes, so and I went over this when they
first launched the GHF. This is an existential threat to
Amas because if they can't get the food. And by
the way, the Israelis just released a video today that
was a video of the leaders of Hamas hanging out
underground feasting. They have all this food and they're just
eating it all. And so they obviously they put that
out there to try to send the message to the Gozzens.
These are your leaders. They're keeping food from you. They're
they're living like kings underground. Lebanon and that was from Travis.
By the way, I don't know who this is from.
Lebanon won't let Palestinians settle there because Lebanon's government is
portioned by ethnicity, so a slew of new folk would
and would upend their civics right well, and people in
America don't understand this. But over in the Middle East.
It's very tribal still. You have tribal you have clans,
right families, there's cousin marriage, and it creates this insular
clanish mentality. And this is what is actually this is
the big problem in the UK. And this is why
like these clanish groupings of pakistanis predominantly participating in the
quote grooming gangs, which were rape gangs targeting poor white
British girls. That this is why like that all of
the family rallies around and protects these gang operations because
they're all of the same plan and if you're not
in their clan, then then you are you're subhuman like
you you're nothing, You're discardable, trash, You're a different clans,
you're a different tribe. That's what tribalism is. Your tribe
is more important, right, And so that was sort of
the thing that you know, the UK had seen years
and years and years ago, is that the UK had
united all of these different clans under one banner and
that became the tribe. So now everybody can now like
you know, you can rely on the rule of law
because the judge isn't going to be you know, ruling
against you because you're of a different tribe or clan.
That's the whole premise. That's the you know, the the
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Let's talk with Jackie. Welcome to the show, Jackie.
Speaker 2: Hey, buddy, how you doing math?
Speaker 1: I'm okay. How are you today?
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in here to a beautiful day out here.
Speaker 1: Good Hey.
Speaker 2: I've been listening to the show for the last couple
of hours and I just wanted it weigh in on
the on the Palestinian Israeli conflict. I've been very fortunate
over the course of the last year. I've befriend at
a ninety three year old Jewish lady here in Charlotte
by the by the name of Margie Goldstein, and she
and I have had a lot of discussions about this.
And I also have a neighbor whose mother is from
Gaza and his mother is actually her father's still there,
and she's actually been to Gaza a couple of times
this year, and we've had some discussions about this also.
But I just wanted to suggest to you that it
might help in the discussion of this subject to have
some people who are closer to it than yourself. I mean,
there are plenty of Jewish people here in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: What did they Well, what did these neighbors tell you, Jackie?
What did you talk with your what did you what
did your neighbor the Palestinian tell you about the situation.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll start off with what Margie tells me. To Margie,
Margie believes this is she said, Well, she tells me
that this is generational. She said, and it goes you know,
it's generational, and it involves it involves heritage, it involves religion.
And she said, the only thing that's going to ever
stop solve this conflict, or stop this conflict, and it's
been going on doing our own life for her whole lifetime,
is that there's going to have to be some concession
of a homeland in some form of fashion for the Palestinians.
That's the only thing that's going to solve this problem.
Speaker 1: That's not true.
Speaker 2: Israel's not going to be able to bomb their way
out of this.
Speaker 1: That's not true. No, no, no, that's not now. Hang on,
first off, what all right? So what that woman? What
your what your friend told you is true in her perspective,
but is not But is not true historically she said
it's generational, and to the extent it's quote generational, that
is true, but it's not just her lifetime. This goes
back fourteen hundred years. This has never happened. I had Jackie,
let me finish.
Speaker 2: You're right about that. I just meant doing her lifetime, yeah,
ninety three years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so so this is this has been going
on since the rise of Islam. Okay number one, number two.
This doesn't end with a homeland for the Palestinians. That's
according to every Palestinian leadership that have come along. That's
not what they are interested in. They are interested in
the Jews not having a homeland. There's a That's why
the Two States solutions died on October seventh.
Speaker 2: But but I think I think when I even talked
to my to my, to the Lady from Gods, I
think they they pretty much reconcile themselves. Is that the
world is not going to let them destroy Israel. That's
not going to happen. You know that there.
Speaker 1: The world is not going well, hang on a second,
the world is not going to let the Palestinians destroy Israel.
Speaker 2: No, it's not the Arab country destory Israel. That's that's
not going to happen.
Speaker 1: No, I would submit. Also, Israel is not going to
let that happen exactly.
Speaker 2: But Israel can't do that without the help of the Western.
Speaker 1: World, not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, there's never been there's never been a uniform
effort of of the Arab countries to attack Israel as
a group.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Right now?
Speaker 2: We've got conflict? What do you think we've never had?
Speaker 1: What do you think that? What do you read? You
realize that the Jews, the Israel, Israelites or Israelis, they
celebrate two different times that the Arab world united to
kill Israel. They have two different celebrations of their victories
over the Arab states that all joined together and tried
to wipe Israel off the map after they got their
nation status.
Speaker 3: Now what years were that, forty eight, sixty seven.
Speaker 2: Sixty seven. But that was not all the Arab countries
united to fight Israel in sixty seven.
Speaker 1: Every Arab country around them fought them. What are you
talking about? That's how they got the goal on heights,
how they got the West Bank. I mean, like Jackie,
I like so I yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you believe that if Saudi Arabia and all
the air countries that ran and Rock and all those
countries that they've banned together, they couldn't destroy Israel?
Speaker 1: Probably not.
Speaker 2: Why do you believe that?
Speaker 1: I don't believe they have the military ability to do so.
Speaker 2: But Israel doesn't have the military the ability to fight them,
all of them without Western help.
Speaker 1: No, They've got a couple of nuclear bombs they would
be dropping on other countries and in.
Speaker 2: Some of these countries. I'll be honest with you about
the nuclear bomb. I think there's some countries over there
that have nuclear bombs that we probably don't know about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a different that's a different topic. I mean
that's and that's a speculation. The only one that I
know of is Pakistan.
Speaker 2: So like in India, Yeah, India is not a not
an air country, but India has a bomb also.
Speaker 1: Correct, But India would not be bombing Israel for no reason.
Speaker 2: No, no, But but I think it'd just be great
if you would have some guests with the with their
unique perspective from Israel.
Speaker 1: And I don't know you're assuming. You're assuming that I
don't get these perspectives when I read people's accounts and
listen to interviews with people, just like I listened to
what you said from your neighbors, and all of what
they All of what they said I have heard before
as well. I've heard all of those before. So I
appreciate this suggestion. If you want to line up some
guests for me, you can send me an email Pete
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have an email from Mark who says the nation state
of Israel has no right to exist. To defend its
existence is to reject God and or Jefferson's writings in
the Declaration of Independence. Bronze Age. Bloodlust is not a
good look for you, Pete. Mark love you like a brother,
but you're not going to be able to play the
emotional blackmail game on me. Sorry. What nation has a
right to exist? By God? Nations exist because people band
together and they fight to keep land, they fight to
take it, and then they hold it and the nation
is yours until you can no longer hold it. The
world is governed by the aggressive youse of force. That's
I mean, you can deny that if you would like to.
Speaker 3: I do not.
Speaker 1: I recognize the world as it is. And this has
been going on since human beings from one area first
encountered human beings from another area, and then they would
fight each other, and then they would take over each
other's land, and then they would hold it until somebody
else came along. It's just a perpetual history of conquering
one another. And Israel got the land and now some
people want to wipe it off the face of the earth,
and the Israelis are like, we're not cool with that,
So we're going to defend our land because we took it,
we got it, and that's the way it has always been.
So that's like I have I can't change that. So yeah, like,
if if Israel doesn't have a quote right to exist,
then no nation has a right to exist, and I
would submit I agree that they don't. There's no inherent
right to exist as a nation. But if you have
the military power to make it so, then you get
to keep your nation, You get to keep your culture,
you get to keep your land until somebody bigger and
stronger comes along it takes it from you and kills
all your people. And that's just been the way of
the world. And you may not like it. I may
not like it, but that's how I see the world,
and I think history is on my side on that one.
I've got. Oh, there was one of the things Jackie
mentioned there when he said his was it his Palestinian
neighbor or something. He didn't give us that person's name,
but that he said that they had come to the
acceptance that the world won't let the Palestinians wipe Israel
off the map. And what an odd betrayal of the
underlying philosophy. No, I'm not sure Jackie realized, like maybe
what he was saying, maybe that's not what was actually
said to him. Maybe it was, and he really late
it perfectly. I don't know, it's you know, third hand information,
but saying you that, it's it's the world that won't
let us do it, which indicates what they want to
do it. They would very much like to commit genocide.
They would very much like to conquer Israel, take it
all over, and have it be their land too, because
that is part of the ideology, which is to spread
Islam across the entire globe, right, that's the they're commanded
to do so, right, They're called to do this. So
and you know through conversion or or the sword, or yes,
you could pay the tax, the Jisha tax, whatever it is,
you can do that too, I guess, but then live
as a second class citizen, victimized by you know, random
pilgrims that just erupt in your town. But I just
that was an odd, an odd thing to say that,
like wow, So, but for the rest of the world,
they're the reason why we can't fulfill our goal, which
is to is to conquer all the land. Right, That's
why that's why I said, like, so this idea of
a two state solution like his, what he just outlined
is the crux of the problem, which is exactly what
I said, which he's got his Jewish neighbor or friend
who says, oh, I guess it's going to have to
be a homeland for both peoples. Right. But then you
turn around and say, but the Palestinians are like, well,
we very much would like to kill you all, but
the world just won't let us. Well, what happens if
you get to a point where the world does let you? Right,
That's that's not a two state solution, that's a give
me territory. So I can do what we have seen Hamastu,
which is to create a terror camp. Right, you like
to build a base of operations by which to launch
attacks against Israel in furtherance of the goal of wiping
them off the map and conquering all the land. Right.
So I think I have a pretty good grasp on
what's going on there. On the mental health issues. I've
worked in mental health for a number of years and
continued to do so. This was from our number two.
Please don't use my name. An old saying in the
behavioral health world is belief creates its own proof. The
general belief is that a competent professional gave this person
the diagnosis. So to go against that is not only
somewhat of a taboo in the field, but is generally
easier as far as the paperwork goes. Combine that with
a believed tendency for behavioral health patients to either lie
or be unaware of the nature of their behavior leads
to the results that you were talking about. That was
the Rosenhans study from nineteen seventy three, right where they
put a bunch of sane people into the institutions and
they all got admitted and they were all their diagnoses
were perpetually can firmed, and then they were like, oh yeah,
we'll try it again, and the doctor was like, okay, fine,
and then they started labeling everybody as plants, and then
the doctor divulged. Later we actually didn't send anybody else
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call pregame in with Brettwinterble, and that means we have
to have Brett Winterble in studio and lo and behold
here he is good to be with you. Brett hosts
the show from three till six coincidentally called the Brett
Winterble Show. It's amazing you got the gig.
Speaker 3: You know, it really is. I walked right into it,
and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, look at me. I'm already named this. You don't
have to rebrand anything. You don't have to do new
coffee mugs.
Speaker 3: What is your show called.
Speaker 1: The Big Calendar Show? The same thing? Right?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: They're like, I said, look, you got an opening white label.
That's it. That's what it is. I already have the name,
so it just works. I also had a I thought
during the break, we were chatting Brett and I, as
we sometimes are wont to do, and I had an idea,
can we get I think it is it the UAE
that does the fake island or I guess they're not
fake islands but the artificial or no, the man made
islands island Yeah, yah, yeah, they make all and they
make them in the shapes of like palm tree, yes,
and stuff like that. Yes, yes, maybe a big island
off the coast of goz uh off the coast of Gaza.
Speaker 3: That's a pretty crowded neighborhood already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you just make a big old island out there,
mm hmm, like a long island. It could be a
long island, not the long, not the long, but the
long island.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can make it any shape you want. You can
make it in the like if you're gonna make an
island for the for the Gozens, yeah, for the Arabs
in Goza. Well you could, I mean not all. You
could make it like like in the in the shape
of a of an assault rifle, because that's on their flag.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's look, yes, it is that is that is.
Speaker 1: And we don't have any islands that look like that.
Speaker 4: That's true, right, but okay, if we wanted to put
them in a place where they wouldn't be on.
Speaker 1: An island, mm hmm, what about Lebanon. No, they won't
take them, they don't want them in Egypt today said
that they're not letting. There was a proposal to hey,
can you take like the women and the children, take
the take children and their moms.
Speaker 4: Basically, okay, take them into Egypt, like what we did
with the evacuation of Afghanistan when it was all women
and children, except for all the terrorists that also got on.
Speaker 1: Them, that also got on the plane, except and to
and to not allow the translators that helped us, right right,
cut them out.
Speaker 3: The worst possible deal that could have possibly made.
Speaker 1: So kind of like that, but just women and children.
And Egypt said no, Egypt's got these six walls, did
they got they put up and they've added more walls. Yes,
they've got six different walls, Yes, blocking off Gaza from Egypt.
Speaker 4: That's look, they they've been in a rough neighborhood for
a long time, like we're going back thirty five hundred
years of rough neighborhoodism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's why
the Egyptians are not really playing the game.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're just like, well.
Speaker 1: They also well one of the statements from one of
their officials, they said that it would not further the
Palestinian cause to allow women and children to leave.
Speaker 4: Why that sounds to me like you would be protecting
the next generation of people, but not the cause.
Speaker 3: But not the cause. Oh the cause?
Speaker 1: Okay, right, So what does that tell you to me?
It tells me women and children don't really rate. No,
it tells me that the Palestinians themselves are expendable at
the altar of the cause. That's really terrible, isn't it.
So Like, if you actually care about Palestinian people, then
you should want Israel to succeed and wipe out Hamas
because there is no future for Palestinians with hamastill and power.
Speaker 4: Who birthed who birthed the terrorist designation that the Palestinians picked?
Speaker 3: Uh, you know who?
Speaker 1: The ft O Foreign Terrorist Organization?
Speaker 4: Yeah, thereout no, no, The Russians, the Soviets were the
were the greatest actors in terms.
Speaker 3: Of setting up terrorist organizations.
Speaker 4: That's why you had all the attacks Munich and and
and uh, you know, all these.
Speaker 3: Different places Russia.
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, pooty pot hate that guy.
Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 4: He's touched that period of time, right, anything he touches,
anything Russia.
Speaker 1: Touches turns to poop.
Speaker 4: No, it's that's they claim the territory. So you could
resettle them into in a Russia.
Speaker 1: I don't know though, because Russia they tend to they
tend to try to wipe out a bunch of their Muslims,
like the Chechtans Chechtians. Yeah, which for some reason, you
ever noticed, the chech Deans never get labeled as Muslims.
That's whenever they were carrying out the terrorist attacks that
they're never called Muslim.
Speaker 4: There's only one there's only one country that that is
like still super stable in that regard, and that's uh Armenia.
Speaker 3: Armenia has been held on to that for since the inception,
which is pretty interesting. That is pretty interesting geopolitics.
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