WEBVTT 1 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:18.399 Please do and you call me zi. 2 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:19.879 Okay, now. 3 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:24.000 You know I do receive fan emails. 4 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:27.800 You've received emails fan fan emails. 5 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:33.079 About fifty a week, some of them bad ones. Some 6 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:40.159 people think that I discovered evidence to prove that pyramids 7 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:45.640 built by aliens or loss civilization, and I hide them. 8 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:48.920 I never answered this questions. But do you I tell 9 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.280 you how do I? How can I hide anything? I'm 10 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:57.039 not working atone, I'm working with people. You cannot hide. 11 00:00:56.759 --> 00:00:59.679 Anything because people will see you. And I will tell 12 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:00.719 you a joke. 13 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:06.159 It happened, but it's a joke. A reporter came to 14 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:09.879 see me from California to my office, and my office 15 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:16.239 was located next to the Great Parameter of Kufu. And 16 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:19.239 he said to me, people say at twelve venoon, you 17 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.359 live your office and you go to the bathroom and 18 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.079 you open a tunnel from your bathroom through really what 19 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.280 he said, and you go from the tunnel to the 20 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:32.560 great Pyramid and you hire things and you come back. 21 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:34.840 I said, okay, what do you need from me now? 22 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:38.680 He said, I want to see your bathroom. It's really happened. 23 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:41.640 He went to my bathroom. 24 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:43.239 Did you check all the panel? 25 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:45.280 And he came back and have you seen any tunnels 26 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:45.920 in my bathroom? 27 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:52.120 He said, no, that's Zah. He was explaining his work 28 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:57.239 at Giza with Joe Rogan, and he's been the face 29 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:03.079 of Egyptology for god decades, and you know, he's basically 30 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:06.760 telling Joe that he has nothing to hide. He good guy. 31 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:10.960 He doesn't lie about discoveries and stuff like that. But 32 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:12.879 there's a lot of there's a lot of questions. And 33 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:14.719 I'll tell you this. I've been to Egypt like eight 34 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:18.960 times now. And when you go to the Giza Plateau, 35 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.439 which is just a big open desert area, it has 36 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:29.039 the Sphinx, it has the Sphinx temples, it has the pyramids, 37 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.520 of course, and it has the causeways and it's a 38 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:38.840 huge area. And when you first see the pyramids, you're 39 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.360 like you're blown away because you've got to understand, it's 40 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.639 one hundred of the Kufu Pyramid that we're gonna be 41 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:49.520 discussing today is one hundred and fifty meters high. That's 42 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:53.719 four hundred and eighty one feet high, and it is 43 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:59.280 made up of limestone and granite blocks, two zero point 44 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.960 three million of them, each of them weighing between two 45 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:07.960 and fifteen tons, and it's attributed to Cufu, a pharaoh. 46 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:12.360 But what is so amazing? And you're stunned. You're stunned 47 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:15.560 into silence. And if you're lucky enough, which we are 48 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.159 each year, to go inside the Great Pyramid, you're further 49 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.719 blown away because you're seeing fifty to one hundred ton 50 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:26.639 blocks of granite laid perfectly on top of each other, 51 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:28.759 so you can't put a piece of paper or a 52 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:32.560 pin between the two pieces of stone. It is a 53 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:36.800 work of engineering genius, and so there's a lot of speculation. 54 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.240 It's the biggest anomaly in the world, one of the biggest. 55 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:45.199 And if there's ever a term that fits the Great Pyramids, 56 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:51.319 it's out of place artifacts, out of place artifacts. There's 57 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:55.400 no way in hell any pharaohs had the technology to 58 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:01.719 build the Pyramids. It's a pre dynastic monument, monuments of 59 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:06.400 three of them. And this is the problem with Egyptology. 60 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.360 They're not scientists, they're social scientists. Basically. They are great researchers, 61 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:13.520 and I have a lot of friends that are Egyptologists. 62 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:17.639 We've had a number of them on the program. But 63 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:21.839 the big issue is when you're dealing with an engineering 64 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:26.360 feat like the Kufu pyramid has to be an engineer 65 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.560 that can really help you understand what you're looking at. 66 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:34.319 And this is why engineers are baffled at how in 67 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:38.600 the hell they built these monuments. And this is our 68 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:45.160 program today and it's easy. And we've talked about the Pharaohs, 69 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:51.680 these self appointed gods, claiming the pyramids were theirs, claiming 70 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:58.000 monumental colossi statues that are thirty feet high are their works. 71 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.519 And for the most part, and AI is helping with this, 72 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:05.800 for the most part, it's coming to light that they 73 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:08.399 didn't create them. And there and the artisans of the 74 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:12.560 day that they were rulers were not capable of carving 75 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:19.439 or building or erecting colossi or massive pyramids. And so 76 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:25.360 there's a huge question. If the Pharaohs didn't build these things, 77 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.879 who did. And this is where it opens the door 78 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:33.639 to ancient aliens, it or opens the door to lost civilizations. 79 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:39.399 And you know, we don't have alien proof. We don't know, 80 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:43.399 I mean, alien theorists quick to say, you know, yeah, 81 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:48.480 you guys can't explain it. Well, we'll explain it. They 82 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:51.839 had levitation, and the aliens gave them special guns that 83 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.360 would all kinds of stuff, but we're not going to 84 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:56.800 get it at today. And you know how I feel 85 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:02.720 about ancient aliens. But my guess is going to talk 86 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:09.680 about a great hoax, and it is. We've had him 87 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:15.360 on the show before, Scott Creighton, and in twenty sixteen 88 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.240 he wrote a book called The Great Pyramid Hoax where 89 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:24.120 he presents detailed evidence, actually forensic evidence and by the way, 90 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:30.199 he's an engineer. He presents evidence that the cartouche, which 91 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:35.600 is what Egyptologists used to identify the Great Pyramid, the 92 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:42.560 Cartouche of Cufu, is was falsified. It's not it's not 93 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:48.959 really by the workers or anyone in the Cufu's administration 94 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.680 who actually put it there. It was placed there by 95 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:57.199 an explorer who wanted to make claim that it is 96 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:03.360 from Cufu. So anyhow, it's a challenge for so many 97 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:11.439 people to understand how this pyramid building was made, who 98 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:16.079 made it, and the technology behind it. When you look 99 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:20.079 at it up close and you're seeing that it's you know, 100 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.879 four hundred feet over four hundred feet above the surface, 101 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.399 there's no way that any of the pharaohs had the 102 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.720 technology to do that. And that's the biggest issue that 103 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.879 I have. It's not that it's not that we don't 104 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:39.959 believe that the Pharaohs could have built it. It's that 105 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:44.199 they didn't have the technology. That's the bottom line. And 106 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.120 this is what I'm facing right now now. I talk 107 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:51.959 a great deal about the statuary of that Pharonic period, 108 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:55.399 and I have been analyzing, and I've talked about this, 109 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:00.360 the statuary of Ramses the second because he he went 110 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:05.800 crazy and placed his cartouche, his signature on literally anything 111 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:08.839 that was above twenty feet tall. And some of the 112 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:12.120 largest statues in the world are in Egypt, if not 113 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.600 the largest statues in the world, and the ones I've 114 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:19.120 been looking at are in Memphis. One specifically, it's thirty 115 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:22.879 plus feet tall. It was carved from a piece of 116 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.279 limestone that must have weighed about five hundred tons, and 117 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:31.560 it's a mind blower. But and I thought that it 118 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.360 was machined, and I talk about this all the time. 119 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:40.360 It wasn't machine. According to AI. It was carved by humans, 120 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:46.200 but a human that had off the charts perception an 121 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.360 ability to carve with unknown tools. Because you can't carve 122 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.240 it with chisels or copper chisels. There's so much that 123 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:57.279 AI is revealing about this that I haven't even gotten 124 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.919 into the possibilities of scanning it with AI and seeing 125 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.799 what the pyramids come up with, what the data is 126 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.399 and on the pyramids. So I guess my point is 127 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:09.840 that there are a world of anomalies in Egypt, and 128 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:12.279 that's why we go each year, is because it is 129 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:19.200 ground zero for early unknown technology. And I can easily 130 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:24.600 say lost civilizations. I could easily say Atlantis. I won't 131 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:27.879 say ancient Aliens because that's just getting out of hand. 132 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.799 I'm so sorry for you guys that are hearing me 133 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:35.919 and going cliff. You just don't get it. Alpha Centauri 134 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:39.000 was our The people from Alpha Centauri were here to 135 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.320 help us. And anyhow, you know, maybe maybe there are 136 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.519 some helpers that were ET's back then. We don't. We 137 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:49.639 know the Maya have a period where they were working 138 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:54.720 with Star Brothers and sisters, but I have trouble going there. 139 00:09:54.759 --> 00:10:00.960 So anyhow, today's program is about this Great Hoates and 140 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:06.159 again the reason it's a hoax is that this gentleman 141 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:11.440 vice Richard Weiss, felt that he needed to place a 142 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.080 cartouche that verified that the Great Pyramid was the handiwork 143 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:21.159 was ordered by Kufu to be created and it's just 144 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:25.840 it's just baffling. So today's program is the Great Pyramid 145 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:31.200 Hoax two and my guest is the research investigator engineer 146 00:10:31.279 --> 00:11:12.480 Scott Creighton. There's a lot of debate about the Great 147 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:19.360 Pyramids and Giza, Giza, Egypt, and over the years there 148 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:22.919 has been the continual belief that, and this is an 149 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:29.120 Egyptological belief, that the Cufu Pyramid was commissioned by the 150 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:34.600 pharaoh Cufu. And if you're an Egyptologist, and this is 151 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:40.000 a big problem we have here on Earth, agents you 152 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:44.120 are going with very little evidence that it was Cufu 153 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:48.039 who commissioned it, and we don't really know. We do 154 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:54.679 know that the creation of the pyramids is a tremendous undertaking. 155 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.200 Each of these blocks weighs two point five tons and 156 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:02.000 that's only the middle of the top sections. The lower 157 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:07.200 sections have multi time pieces of stone. And as an 158 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:13.840 engineering feat, is it an old kingdom structure? Many people 159 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:17.399 like myself don't believe it is an old kingdom. We 160 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:22.480 think it's a great predynastic My returning guest today, Scott Creighton, 161 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:27.039 wrote a book in twenty sixteen called The Great Pyramid Hoax. 162 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:34.159 In that book, he highlights the claim made by Colonel 163 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:41.799 Richard William Howard Wisse that the kartushev. Kufu is the 164 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:49.039 proof that it was commissioned by Kufu. And we have 165 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:53.919 Scott back on this week's program to talk about a 166 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:56.639 new book that he's written, which is The Great Pyramid Hoax, 167 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:02.279 Part two or number two, Revealing an ancient truth buried 168 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.600 by a Victorian lie. And we're gonna learn just what 169 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:10.919 this is all about. And it's very important to focus 170 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:15.879 on this because it's not a casual observation. Scott has 171 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:20.960 spent a great deal of time observing and chronicling the 172 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.879 details of this cartouche, and we're gonna learn about it today. 173 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:27.759 So hey, Scott, welcome back to Earth Ancients. Great to 174 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:28.080 see you. 175 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:33.039 Yeah, good to see you too. It's been about nineteen 176 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:36.799 years something like that, at least nine yeah, yeah, a 177 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:37.320 long time. 178 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:40.759 Yeah. I will also mention to our listeners that I 179 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:45.919 discovered Scott's work on Graham Hancock's website. He had written 180 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:50.840 an article and it was just an excellent article. So 181 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.399 we've got to start from the beginning. Although this is 182 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.080 The Great Pyramid hoax number two. We got to kind 183 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:00.720 of frame this, Scott a little bit for our listeners, 184 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.159 and I'm going to let you do that. Let's start 185 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:09.039 by identifying what you as a research investigator. And by 186 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.159 the way, for those of you listening, Scott is a 187 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:15.000 research investigator. He is an IT engineer, is a very 188 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:19.480 bright guy, and what he's discovered is phenomenal. But let's 189 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:26.120 go back, Scott to your discovery and what you had 190 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:28.200 uncovered many years ago. 191 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:36.600 Okay, Cliff. A number of former researchers, going all the 192 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:41.480 way all the way back to nineteen eighties and even 193 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:50.039 further back the eighteen hundreds, have accused Avice of perpetating 194 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:56.519 a fraud within the Great Pyramid. Now, Conovice discovered some 195 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:01.159 painted markings in some hidden chambers with the Great Pyramid 196 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:06.519 in eighteen thirty seven, and it's these markings are basically 197 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.679 I think it was doctor Mark Lehner who said that 198 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:20.600 basically these are the you know evidence to prove that 199 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:24.840 you know, the Great Pyramid was indeed constructed by the 200 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:31.159 feral Cufu. And because CUFU has been identified, it links 201 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.600 the Great Pyramid, or locks the Great Pyramid through the 202 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:38.120 timeframe of to five hundred BC. So that's effectively what 203 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:43.159 this discovery did. It locked the Great Pyramid to Cufu 204 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:47.080 and to the timeframe of two five hundred BC. So 205 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:50.679 a lot of people can test that date. A lot 206 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:56.639 of people don't accept it for various reasons, including myself actually, 207 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:06.000 but we can get into that much later. So hero Auditus, 208 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:12.960 i think it was the first, wrote that Cufu or 209 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:18.080 Chiops was the builder of the Great Pyramid, and that 210 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:24.360 was you know, about five hundred, five hundred eighty something 211 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:27.120 like that. Anyway, it was a long time after the 212 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.600 Great Pyramid was supposedly built, about two thousand years after 213 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:38.720 the Pyramid was supposedly built. So you had this historical narrative, 214 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.200 if you like, that the Great Pyramid had been built 215 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:49.200 by this ancient pharaoh, Cufu, but there was never any 216 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:53.600 real proof it was really I suppose even up to 217 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.720 el Victorian times in the UK and around the world, 218 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:00.879 it was pretty much here said that it was Cufu. 219 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:11.000 What did it? Yeah, So colonel Weiss, you know, visits 220 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:15.279 Egypt in eighteen thirty seven. He actually arrived much earlier 221 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:21.039 eighteen thirty five, but toured around Upper Agent Low regip 222 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.319 visited the Holy Land eventually came back to Egypt around 223 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:30.440 late eighteen thirty six. So going into eighteen thirty seven, 224 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:36.559 he starts exploring the Great Pyramid. He'd been told by 225 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:43.319 an elderly explorer, an Italian guy called Giovanni Caviglia, that 226 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:50.000 Cabiglia suspected that there may be some secret hidden chambers 227 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:54.400 above the King's chamber, which was obviously well known. But 228 00:17:54.480 --> 00:18:00.000 the pyramid, even even back then, obviously was empty. Never 229 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:04.759 found a pharaoh's body in the so called sarcophagus within 230 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:09.079 the king's chamber. We can touch on that later. Again, 231 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:13.880 why I don't believe it's a sarcophagus, There's some good 232 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:18.480 evidence to essentially point in a completely different direction for 233 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.880 what that stone box actually is. But anyway, so he 234 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:28.599 Colonel Vice hears from Caviglia that he suspects there may 235 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:32.119 be hidden chambers above the King's chamber. Just to give 236 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:36.079 a bit of a context, Kviglia had been he'd been 237 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:41.720 working within the Great Pyramid long before Colonel Vice even 238 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:46.799 arrived in Egypt, so he'd been exploring the Pyramid for 239 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:50.960 quite some time. So anyway, they get into a partnership 240 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:57.400 to explore the pyramid, but for some reason they fell 241 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:02.359 out coldel Vice essentially banned Chevclia from the site and 242 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.599 commences the exploration of the Great Pyramid himself. Starts using 243 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:12.079 gunpowder black powder to blast his way through the interior 244 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:16.920 of the Great Pyramid, and eventually he discovers these hidden 245 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:21.559 chambers that had been sealed since the monument was built. 246 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.680 Let me understand, are you are you talking about the 247 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.880 relieving chambers above the yans Okay. 248 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:30.119 Yeah, above the King's chamber. Yeah, so he and don't know. 249 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:34.400 That he had blasted a pathway. I thought you were 250 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:39.440 able to access it without so exactly, go ahead. 251 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:42.319 You can access You can access one chamber just above, 252 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:46.680 immediately above the King's chamber, It's called Davison's chamber. That 253 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:50.400 has been opened. Well, nobody knows how long really it's 254 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:54.000 been opened it It probably has been opened since antiquity, 255 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:58.079 since the monument was built. So the first chamber, the 256 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:02.200 first relieving chamber, Davison's, has been open for a long time. 257 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:07.200 But there's four chambers above that, four relieving chambers above that, 258 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:12.839 which Colonel Vice used gunpowder to blast his way into. Yeah, 259 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:16.079 this was an eighteen thirty seven and so I mean 260 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:20.599 he's blasting through granite. So it took him several months 261 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:28.119 to get this task and done. So when he enters 262 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:35.440 these chambers, he alleges claims wrote a book claiming that 263 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:40.400 he found these painted markings essentially bearing the various names 264 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:43.079 of the pharaoh Cufu. 265 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:46.599 Yeah, so I should just let people know that it's 266 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.559 not it's not just markings. It's his cartouche. 267 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:55.640 Yes, yes, a royal Yeah, it's the royal The cartush 268 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:59.480 identifies a royal name. It's it's a sort of oval 269 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.039 ring with a vertical stroke on the end of it 270 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:08.559 that identifies a royal name. Any markings inside that sign 271 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:14.839 are a royal royal name. So Colonel Vice discovered allegedly 272 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:20.039 the royal carto bush of the pharaoh Cufu within these chambers. Now, 273 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:25.000 just to let your viewers understand, Cliff, that are interships 274 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:29.680 and pharaoh had five different names. So it wasn't just 275 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:35.759 Cufu that Colonel Vice found within the monument within these chambers, 276 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:41.400 it was his horrorce name Horace Mededu, which is the 277 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:47.200 horrors name of Cufu. And he found another name Knum Cufu, 278 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:55.720 which basically nowadays is understood to be the full name 279 00:21:55.759 --> 00:22:02.119 of Cufu. Cufu is really an abbreviation of Kukufu, so 280 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.960 esiontologists today tell us. So, all these different versions of 281 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:11.720 Kufu's name were found within these four relieving chambers that 282 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:19.880 Colonel Rice discovered, but curiously Davison's chamber, no painted markings 283 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:25.400 were were discovered there. The markings, the painted markings essentially 284 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:33.039 graffiti painted with red ochre paint, so very rough painted markings. 285 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.559 They're not chiseled into the stonework or ornately painted or 286 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.640 anything like that. They're rough graffiti with f. 287 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:43.559 Yes that you for a second, Scott, So would you 288 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:54.440 say that the egeotological community believes that this is the 289 00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:57.359 signature of the Stonemasons? 290 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:00.799 Yeah? I think said, how does? 291 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.759 Because this is the big problem we're facing here is that, 292 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.559 and this is what I want my listeners to to understand, 293 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:14.319 is that this identifying mark is the signature that substantiates 294 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:20.920 Kufu as the builder without any other proof. This hieroglyph 295 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:26.920 is the donation is the identifying mark? 296 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:33.480 Yeah, yeah, that's name. I should maybe point out at 297 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:37.720 this point that no scientific analysis has ever been made 298 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:43.240 of these painted markets, none whatsoever. But yeah, what happened, 299 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:50.200 or what Egyptologists tale is is that the ancient Egyptian 300 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:55.759 work gangs that built these chambers, not just these chambers, 301 00:23:55.960 --> 00:24:01.200 the pyramid itself, would often paint their gang name onto 302 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:07.759 the stones because that's stone the same gang would be 303 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.920 at the quarry as was at the pyramid or you know, 304 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:15.000 so they're painting their gang name because that's to be 305 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:20.440 delivered to their gang at the pyramid. So because there 306 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:25.000 us like several different gangs working at the pyramid, you know, 307 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:29.279 so they kind of it's almost like a competition, you know, 308 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:33.759 to you know, increase production of the workers that were 309 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.799 competing with each other. So they would often put their 310 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.440 gang name on the stones to be delivered to their 311 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:44.039 gang at the pyramid to make sure basically that the 312 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.599 stones went to the right gang in the right place 313 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:52.440 in the pyramid. So that's essentially the reason why these markings, 314 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:58.440 according to to mainstream Egyptology, was on was found on 315 00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:02.839 these stones. And to be fair to Egyptology, who actually 316 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:06.119 I think do a lot of your really good work, 317 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.480 to be fair to them, I believe that's probably correct 318 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:15.720 that the ancient Egyptians did you know do this because 319 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:23.000 we find these gang markings on stones outside the pyramid, 320 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:28.000 on the main elevation, the sides of the pyramid, the 321 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:32.359 stones there are the core blocks and maybe even casing stones. 322 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.319 You know, these gang names found on them as well. 323 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.960 So it's not just you know, the inside of the pyramid, 324 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:41.960 and some gang names were found in the bolt pits. 325 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:46.440 So it definitely was a practice of the ancient Egyptians 326 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:46.960 to do. 327 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:54.319 This, okay, And what led you to believe that this 328 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.200 was not the work of the builders? 329 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:05.160 Okay, Okay, we'll need to qualify that a bit. In 330 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:09.680 a sense, it was the work of the builders because 331 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:18.599 Colonel Vice could not fabricate the mark the actual text itself, 332 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.480 because nobody knew what it was at the time in 333 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.480 eighteen thirty seven, no Egyptologists, you know. We have to 334 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:30.880 understand that some polliol had only recently, you know, managed 335 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.119 to crack the hieroglyphic code. I think it was eighteen 336 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.720 twenty two or something like that, so it's only fifteen 337 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:42.920 years before, you know, so knowledge of higherglyphs among academics 338 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:49.279 in eighteen thirty seven was practically non existent. So the 339 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:54.720 question is, how could a layman such as Colonel Vice, 340 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.559 you know, perpetrate such a brilliant hoax, How could you 341 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.640 have done it if the academics of the time couldn't 342 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:09.599 even know, They didn't know about this particular style of writing. 343 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:17.960 It's called hieratic, and hieratic script is a type of hieroglyphs, 344 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.440 but it's like freehand cursive script that they would us 345 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:28.559 in every day writing because obviously, you know, hieroglyphs were 346 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:33.960 hieroglyphs were generally chiseled into stone or ornately painted. But 347 00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:38.160 these were just everyday writing. So it was it was 348 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:43.640 done and what was called hieratic cursive script. So how 349 00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:46.960 in earth? You know, it wasn't known among the academics 350 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.240 at that time, So how that and earth could Colonel 351 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:54.920 Weiss have perpetrated this if the academics didn't even know. 352 00:27:55.799 --> 00:28:05.440 So that's the question now around when when Weiss arrived 353 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:11.200 at He's in eighteen thirty seven, outside the pyramid, a 354 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.839 literal spent months doing this. So there was these giant 355 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:18.960 mounds of rubble earth and rubble and sand outside the 356 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.880 pyramid elevations, I think mainly to the north and the 357 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.920 south of the pyramid. There was these giant was gonna. 358 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.640 Stop you real quickly, scout. So I've been inside the 359 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.880 pyramid many times. So you go through the Grand Gallery 360 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:38.240 up to the top, and then you pass through You 361 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.960 could either pass through the Queen's Room or the King's chamber. 362 00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:48.240 The area you're talking about is above the King's chamber. 363 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:53.279 So he was blasting how is he blasting? Did he 364 00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:56.279 get a ladder up there and he was flasting rock? 365 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.119 Yeah. If you go to the very top end of 366 00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:05.480 the slope of the Grand Gallery, very top the Grand Gallery, 367 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:08.880 at the end of the wall there, and you look up, 368 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:13.799 there's a hole at the top of the ceiling, and 369 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:17.960 that hole is a small passage, very very tight passage. 370 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:20.680 It's only about maybe two and a half feet square. 371 00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:25.359 This this tiny passage, but you know, it's big enough 372 00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.119 for a human to crawl through, and that takes you 373 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:32.200 into Davison's chamber, oh, above the King's chambers. So yeah, 374 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.200 they had to get I think a twenty five foot 375 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.640 ladder to reach this hole up, you know, at the 376 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:40.200 top of the Grand Gallery. 377 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.480 So okay, you read his book, Why would Vice even 378 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.079 consider doing that? I mean, it's so strange. 379 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:47.039 Was there? 380 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:50.160 Did he have a purpose in mind? Of blasting with 381 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.279 dynamite above. 382 00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.400 Well, okay, in the con of ICE's book he tells 383 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:01.480 us quite clearly what his motive was. I think there 384 00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:03.839 may have been other motives, but in his book he 385 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.599 tells us that he wanted to define the true burial 386 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:12.039 place of Cufu. That's the State's that very clearly. He 387 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:17.319 also says he wanted to make some important discoveries before 388 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.519 returning home to England, So that was his motive. He 389 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:25.359 wanted the fame and accolades that went with making an 390 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:30.960 important discovery. He wanted, I suppose, is his name immortalized 391 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:34.920 in the annals of world history. So that really was 392 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.960 at motive, and there's no question about that. It's there 393 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.799 in black and white in his own books. And he 394 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:47.319 spent a considerable fortune, a small fortune, you know, and 395 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:52.039 doing it. He spent something like ten thousand sterling pounds 396 00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.559 in eighteen thirty seven, which today works out about one 397 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.160 point two one point three million dollars something like that, 398 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.880 and these and these explorations. So he wanted something for 399 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.920 his book, you know, he wanted he wanted something. 400 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:15.319 For his He had noted public figure in England. Well, yeah, 401 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.960 I mean, I think and I think I remember vaguely 402 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.359 reading this in your book that he may have kind 403 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.799 of wanted to do the national geographic. You know, I 404 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.279 am the I am the not Petrie, but he was 405 00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:30.920 somebody who wanted to make a name for himself. 406 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.279 Yeah, I mean in the UK he was a member 407 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.960 of parliament twice, eighteen oh seven and again I think 408 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.599 maybe eighteen twelve. It's been a while since I've looked 409 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.559 at this, but round about that. But in the eighteen 410 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:53.440 oh seven election to become a member of parliament, he 411 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:59.720 essentially bribed the electorate, he bought their vote. Now he 412 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.079 was cleared of that at the time. He was cleared 413 00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.000 of it at the time. But after his death, which 414 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:09.640 I think was eighteen eighteen fifty three, I think he died, 415 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.720 so this is some time after his episode in Geezza. 416 00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.519 A document was found which basically proves that he did 417 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:26.920 pay all his elector the electorate his election, you know, 418 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.559 money for voting for him. He paid some eleven hundred 419 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.079 of the electors and I think they're only ware about 420 00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.559 twelve hundred, so massive fraud that he carried out to 421 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.039 ensure that he will won the election. So that's the 422 00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.680 kind of guy with it we're dealing with. You know, 423 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.680 he will push the bounds to get what he wants. 424 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:51.359 Yeah, let's go back to this relieving chamber. He's blasting 425 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:56.079 his way. He gets to the top of the King's chamber, 426 00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:58.119 which is the relieving what. 427 00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.519 Do you call Davis Everson's. 428 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.079 Yeah, and so what happens that with that? 429 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:12.440 Right, So he's in Davison's who can't see any doors. 430 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:16.160 There's no doors or past sidways and Davison's. So the 431 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:21.079 story goes that, and I think there's a story that Caviglia, 432 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:26.240 that he previously worked with, showed him this. So Caviglia's 433 00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:30.599 story goes that he pushed a small length of grass, 434 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.680 a very you know, long length of grass or read 435 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:38.920 very thin, between the cracks the joints where two of 436 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:44.000 the slabs of the roof above his head, just where 437 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:48.920 they met. He forced this read of grass through the 438 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.920 crack and it just went and went and went and 439 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.519 went and went all the way through. And he realized 440 00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.640 then that there is a space or Caviglia realized that 441 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.440 there was to be another chamber above that. So he 442 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:05.880 told us device it's part of Vice, his team. Vice 443 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.280 kicks him off his team and starts he wants to 444 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.400 do to discover this for himself. So he starts basically 445 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:19.719 blasting at the entrance of Davison's just before he entered 446 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:23.239 the chamber, and there's a small passageway that he's in, 447 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:29.199 So he basically starts tunneling his way vertically up from 448 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.000 Davison's the entrance of Davison's. He tunnels his way up 449 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.000 using gunpowder through the granite to create a vertical tunnel, 450 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.679 a shaft, a vertical shaft, and is able to eventually 451 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.719 find all these these other four four chambers. 452 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.239 How did he get permission to use dynamite? Was this 453 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.920 the I mean, well, it's the wild West, wild West. 454 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:55.599 Back then, Egypt must have been h kind of falling 455 00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:00.559 apart or not really government. There must not have been 456 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.719 any authority at the time at. 457 00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:09.679 That time standards. There were no standards for archaeology back 458 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:12.440 back then, you know, it was pretty much a free 459 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.039 free for all, essentially a suppose for Western countries to 460 00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:23.400 pillage Egypt, you know, and over there was a competition 461 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.159 between you know, Western powers France at late Germany or 462 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:33.039 Prussia at the time, Britain to find the biggest, most 463 00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:40.119 significant discovery. You know, I suppose for national prestige. It 464 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.119 was all that kind of thing going on at the time, 465 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:47.119 So you know, there was no rules, There was no rules. 466 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:48.119 It was a free for all. 467 00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:49.119 Wow. 468 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:54.960 And it's a real shame because Egypt was was plundered basically. 469 00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.840 Yeah, well we know that that because Napoleon brought back 470 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.199 Hoole Temple and if you go to the Louver in 471 00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:08.280 France you can see whole ceilings, whole temples, which Egypt 472 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.840 wants back now. And the same thing with Britain, and 473 00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:15.519 the British Museum has just thousands of artifacts that were 474 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.320 re e deluding. So Weiss gets to the top of 475 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.960 the relieving chamber, he blasts his way through. When did 476 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:27.719 he stop blasting and what were the next phases that 477 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:32.519 led to the discovery of what he believed was the cartouche. 478 00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.840 Oh, it starts. It starts his blasting in February eighteen 479 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:46.440 thirty seven, and the Cufu cartouche wasn't discovered until his 480 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:51.079 blasting is very early February, and the Kufu cartouche wasn't 481 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.719 discovered until the twenty seventh of March. That's our iconic 482 00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:59.199 Cufu Cartus, the one everybody knows about, was found in 483 00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.800 the last er Campbell's chamber, which is at the very 484 00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:10.320 top of this series of relieving chambers. Sooook Cartous is 485 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:15.199 in there, and it was found probably twenty seventh of March. 486 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.440 I believe it was so some some time after he'd 487 00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:25.079 start blasting his way through the Great Pyramid with this 488 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:26.480 gunpowder archaeology. 489 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:31.000 So why don't you describe the steps that he took 490 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:34.559 in his discovery? Does he? He must have written about it. 491 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.920 Yeah, I mean in his book, he goes, he goes 492 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:49.320 through the process, he documents it fairly well, what what happened? He's, 493 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.039 you know, blowing blasting his way through. He opens a 494 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:59.039 chamber and then in his book he says, yeah, opened 495 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:03.280 this chamber, and we discovered them painted markings, quarry marks 496 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:07.480 upon the chamber walls. That's what he says in his book, 497 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.880 his published book, and he does this for each each 498 00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.519 of the four chambers. Oh, and we found more quarry marks. Oh, 499 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:20.559 we found more quarry marks. He doesn't specifically mentioned finding 500 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:25.440 the Kufu Cartus, but he did know the Kufu Cartous. 501 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.400 There's really solid evidence that he actually knew what the 502 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:33.039 Kufu cartous was It had been published by a polito 503 00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:37.119 Roussellini in eighteen twenty eight. I think it was maybe, 504 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.079 you know, a good while before Vice went went to 505 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.159 eighteen thirty two, maybe a good while before Vice went 506 00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:48.480 to Egypt. The Kufu characters had been published. It was known, 507 00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:53.320 so he knew what to kind of look for. But 508 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:59.480 in his published account, it's almost like he's playing dumb. 509 00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.760 I don't know what these marks are, but he does 510 00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:08.079 know what they are, because I managed to track down 511 00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:14.280 his private field notes, his private journal of his diary 512 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.559 of his time at Giza in eighteen thirty seven, and 513 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:24.039 they tell a different story from the published account. You know, 514 00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:29.639 it's just incredible the difference in terms of what his 515 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:35.599 private journal says and what is published account tells us. 516 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.440 So the private give us some a sense of the 517 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:44.719 private notation that he reproduces. I mean, he's using candlelight 518 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.280 and probably tracing the wall or you know, trying to 519 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:50.679 figure out where the hell he is. 520 00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:54.639 Yeah, well, let me give you an example, maybe a 521 00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.000 couple of examples. He in the first couple of chambers, well, 522 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.960 Lincoln's chamber, He's in there. His published book says he didn't. 523 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.559 His published book says he found the quarry marks. He 524 00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:15.719 doesn't tell us what he found, okay, But in his 525 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:23.199 private no, actually the quarry marks Wellington's chamber. This is 526 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.679 the first chamber that he blasted his way into. He 527 00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:30.360 tells us that he found the quarry marks. He doesn't 528 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.840 tell us what he found. But you look at the 529 00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:37.199 drawings of that were made of what was found in there. 530 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.880 There was a kunoum Kufu cartoush on the western wall 531 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.880 of that chamber, but Vice makes no mention of it 532 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:49.760 in his book. But in his private journal he basically says, 533 00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:54.039 I saw some markings on the east wall, but there 534 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.960 was nothing, but there was nothing that looked like hieroglyphics 535 00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:01.239 in the chamber. So that's you know. But then suddenly 536 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:05.840 a cartoush appears, and he got one of his assistants, 537 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:10.480 Attap named mister Hill, to document or to make one 538 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.599 to one drawings fi similar drawings of the markings that 539 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:19.519 they supposedly found within these chambers. So while Vice in 540 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:25.320 his published account says that he found quarry marks, which 541 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:30.159 he did, there were some markings in markings, some of 542 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.400 which don't actually look like Egyptian hieroglyphs on the east wall, 543 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.719 but there's also a Kufu cartoush there in the western wall, 544 00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:44.360 and he knew what the Kufu cartoush looked like. He 545 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.960 may not have known this one because it was it 546 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.400 was a Knoom Cufu cartoush, but anyway he could have 547 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:57.519 guessed it. So he writes in his private account that 548 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.239 he saw some markings on the eastern wall, but nothing 549 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:04.000 on you know, there was nothing in the chamber that 550 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:09.000 looked like hieroglyphics. Now, mister Holl's drawing of the cartoush 551 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:14.840 from that chamber does look like hieroglyphics. He was unknown, Well, yeah, 552 00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:18.960 there's those hieroglyphics on the western walk. It doesn't make 553 00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.599 any mention of those markets whatsoever. 554 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.400 We're going to take a short commercial break to allow 555 00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:30.320 our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly 556 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.000 with my guest today, Scott Creighton, discussing his latest book, 557 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:43.000 The Great Pyramid Hoax, Part Two, will be right back 558 00:42:43.039 --> 00:43:25.639 with you. My guest today is engineer research investigator Scott Craton. 559 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:28.440 He has written a new book called The Great Pyramid Hoax. 560 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:33.079 Part two in the book is now available on Amazon. 561 00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:44.599 So in his journal it is the assistant saying, this 562 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:50.679 paint on the wall or is it scratching? No, it's paint. Yeah, 563 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.920 I mean it's just red ochre paint on the chamber wolves. 564 00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:00.400 But his assistant is copying now and then the next 565 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:05.320 chamber there's a Nelson's chamber, but I'll jump to Ladier 566 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.880 buthnuts Chamber. This is a really bizarre situation. 567 00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:15.519 If you go into Ladier buthnuts Chumber today with just 568 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.960 an oil arm, a candle, or even a small hand 569 00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:24.280 held BArch, you can see many of the paint markings, 570 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.800 not all of them. Some of them have faded quite considerably. 571 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:34.119 I've seen photographs of them. Paint marks in that chamber 572 00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.920 been up. With just a handheld torch, you can actually 573 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:43.079 see the markings on the wall. When Vice and another 574 00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:48.239 of his assistants, mister Baden, first entered Ladier buthnuts Chamber 575 00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:52.000 in eighteen thirty seven, they just breached it. This was 576 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.039 the first time anyone had ever ended the chamber. And 577 00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.920 remember what's important here, Cliff, is that they had already 578 00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:04.280 supposedly they discovered red painted ochre markings in the two 579 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.880 chambers below right mm hmm, okay, this is what what 580 00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:11.159 we're supposedly told. This is what we're told, this is 581 00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:17.800 what supposedly happened. So I've already discovered supposedly these markings, 582 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:23.039 and two chambers below they go inside. Now, what would 583 00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:26.400 you be doing if you had found markings in two 584 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.880 chambers below? What would you be doing when you go 585 00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:33.199 into this cham you be searching the wall? Don't you 586 00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:39.440 be searching the walls for similar markings? Question? And we 587 00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:43.800 know they did search the walls because the Vice writes 588 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:48.679 in his published book that the walls and lady's chamber 589 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:53.840 where let this inferior construction to the chambers below. So 590 00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:58.159 they're checking the walls. They didn't find a single quarry 591 00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:03.119 mark painted on any other of the walls. H two 592 00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:10.639 sets of eyes. Vice and mister Raven totally primed expecting 593 00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:16.559 you could imagine that they would be painted mark wearing walls. 594 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.079 This chamber today has more painted markings on its walls 595 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.599 than any within all of the other chambers combined. And 596 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:28.679 they didn't see a single one. They came out of 597 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:30.559 that and you can look in today and you can 598 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.800 see some of them on the walls. They didn't see 599 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.599 any who had been primed to see them. They only 600 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:43.880 found markings in this chamber three days later. Suddenly they disappeared. 601 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:52.360 So this is your big question, is he becomes a forger. 602 00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:58.480 Well, what I think happened is he wants he wants 603 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:04.000 to make and i'm important discovery. He's thinking that maybe 604 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:09.119 of these chambers is you know, Kufu's burial. So is 605 00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:17.320 having disappointment after disappointment in these chambers. It's not finding Cufu. 606 00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:24.079 Might still wants to make an important discovery. So I conjecture, Well, 607 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:30.039 I I don't conjecture. The evidence suggests. This is the 608 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.599 only way I can put this. The evidence suggests that 609 00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.119 a hoax was perposed. What I've been doing a Vice 610 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:42.199 is investigating claims that other people, like a Prussian prince 611 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.599 in eighteen thirty and who met Vice at Giza, accused 612 00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:48.760 them of perpetrating a fraud. 613 00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.800 Oh my god, Yeah. 614 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:57.239 Prussian prince accused him of his earientially perpetrating a fraud. 615 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.679 He basically writes in a book that Colonel Weiss only 616 00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:06.679 pretend pretended to have found these marks, and that they 617 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:13.840 were probably made only very recently with a finger dipped 618 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.440 in color. So this is what this Prussian prince said. 619 00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.320 He also strangely said advice that he expected Vice to 620 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.519 find an inscription in the chamber that he was opening 621 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:29.960 at that time, which was Wellington as the first chamber. 622 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:36.559 This Prussian prince said, Advice. They hadn't found anything yet. 623 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.840 This Prussian prince said to him, you're going to find 624 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.760 an inscription in there, which was a strange thing. 625 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:45.840 It was. 626 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:52.559 That's a very strange thing form Dady device because this Prussian, 627 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:58.480 if you read his books, he believed that these monuments 628 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.719 should not have any right in them. That's what he 629 00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:06.880 says in his books. He believed they were built deliberately 630 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.960 without any text written outside or inside. And yet it 631 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.079 says to Colonel Vice, he's a you're going to find 632 00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:23.360 a description in there, aren't you? And he did alleged allegedly. 633 00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:27.920 So yeah, so that's lady of Buthnot's chamber. You know, 634 00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:33.079 there's no markings found on the walls, markings that you 635 00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.559 can see today with just a Handtok's two pairs of 636 00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:41.039 eyes primed to look for these markings. They didn't find any. 637 00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:42.920 They only found him three days later. 638 00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.320 You know, let me just quote ask you real quickly, 639 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.320 are there anything in the men car or the other 640 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:57.599 pyramids that are internal marks, painting, or anything identifying them. 641 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:04.000 No, there's there's a quarry marks that were found identifying 642 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:12.760 the fair Mincora found outside the Mincora Pyramid, around the 643 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:19.360 tempo area of the Mincora Pyramid. So but none inside either. 644 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.159 Well, but we all know the par Us were great 645 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:27.199 usurpers and and he might have just stuck his name 646 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:32.960 out there because he wanted to claim it for his kingdom. 647 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.639 Yeah, well this is the thing. Yeah, this is the 648 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.719 that may have happened with Cufu as well. Because I 649 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:47.800 was saying, Eller Cliff, that vice was that Giza cring 650 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:52.239 these rubble piles outside the Great Pyramid. Now, what he 651 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:56.239 also tells us, and this is really important, what he 652 00:50:56.360 --> 00:51:02.960 also tells us is that he found stones, you know, 653 00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:08.519 pyramid stones, blocks outside the pyramid. It was continually finding 654 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:16.119 red painted quarry marks on these stones outside the pyramid. Okay, 655 00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:22.360 now we just said about Mincora. Yeah, so it doesn't 656 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:26.280 take a great stretch of the imagination to figure out 657 00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.159 what carne of Ice probably did. 658 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:33.440 I mean, this is somebody a very very poor character 659 00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:39.079 to do something like this on on this ancient monument, 660 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:43.559 and I mean, you're you're you're kind of building him 661 00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:47.840 up to be a frustrated explorer spinning. What you're saying 662 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.320 is close to or over a million dollars uh to 663 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:58.280 do the research? What I mean, can you give us 664 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:02.840 some other character analysis that would lead you to believe 665 00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:08.000 that he was the forger? Was it him? Or did 666 00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:11.440 you think he actually paid somebody to paid that card. 667 00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:17.960 To No, I don't think I executed any of the 668 00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:23.239 actual painting upon the walls himself. He had a small 669 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:29.039 team two guys in particular, he had three main assistants, 670 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:34.559 mister Perring, mister Raven, and mister Hill. Now I don't 671 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:38.639 think mister Perring was directly involved at all. I think 672 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:41.639 he may only have been sort of turning a blind 673 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:45.000 eye tacitly involved, just turning a blind eye to what 674 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:48.960 was going on. I think there's good evidence that supports 675 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:55.079 I think the two that perpetrated the painting where mister 676 00:52:55.199 --> 00:53:01.320 Hill and mister Raven on Vice's instruction, Cause there is 677 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:06.960 another page in Colonel Vice's private journal which says that 678 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:19.039 this was the twenty seventh of Now I may have 679 00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:23.599 said marks earlier, I think no, it was twenty seventh 680 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:29.800 of May. Yeah, twenty seventh May that I believe that 681 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:38.480 the broken to Yeah, twenty seventh of May, that they 682 00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:45.119 broke into Campbell's chamber. Now, Connel Vice writes in his 683 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:53.119 private notes, which I really struggled to read. I found him. 684 00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:59.320 I found his note about fifteen years ten, fifteen years ago. 685 00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:03.679 Kurent member exactly when now, But his handwriting is appallingly bad, 686 00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:08.679 is appalling, is atrocious. It took me quite some time 687 00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:12.719 to become fairly efficient in reading it. His writing is 688 00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:14.280 like a doctor's prescription. 689 00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.760 You know, you became a he became a Vice. Hendwriting 690 00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:18.360 the expert. 691 00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.239 I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say expert, but certainly I 692 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:26.920 can read it, you know where it matters. Yeah, And 693 00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.880 in this particular page what martyrd was what he said 694 00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:38.639 about entering Campbell's chamber where the iconic Kufu cartush was found. 695 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:46.719 He wrote on this page for Raven and Hill. Now 696 00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:50.480 this is like an instruction that he's perhaps wanted to 697 00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:53.920 give them. He wrote his diary at night before he 698 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:56.639 went to bed, so he's going to give them this 699 00:54:56.679 --> 00:55:00.559 instruction probably the next day. So he writes his diary 700 00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:05.559 that night. For Raven and Hill, these were my marks. 701 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:09.719 And then he draws the Kufu Cartoush. He draws it horizontally, 702 00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:13.440 not the way it's in the chamber, which is, you know, 703 00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:17.880 sideways vertical. He's notes it horizontal. So for Raven and Hill, 704 00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:24.360 these were marks from Cartoush to inscribe over any plane. 705 00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.440 The words after that are unclear. I think one of 706 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.280 them may be the word trusting, but I couldn't be 707 00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:33.800 absolutely certain on that. And would you look in Campbell's 708 00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:39.159 chamber the root blocks there or shape like that. Yeah, trusting, 709 00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:45.239 you know. So that's what he writes for Raving. For 710 00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:50.440 Raven until these were my marks from Cartush that he 711 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:55.159 had found outside the pyramid. These are my march from 712 00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.800 Cartoush that he had probably found in the rubble piles 713 00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:03.519 outside the pyramid. Two ins future tens, not past tense, 714 00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:08.639 cliff to inscribe over any plane, something maybe trusting. 715 00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:12.800 So this is this is a note that he is 716 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:21.079 ryan to himself so that the next day he can Yeah, yeah, it's. 717 00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:25.440 It's in his private notes. You know, you can go 718 00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:27.800 and look at it's private notes. I'm not allowed to 719 00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:33.239 publish the page. I asked permission the published page from 720 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:37.280 the cockpyright owner recently and they wouldn't allow it. So 721 00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:42.119 but you can go and see it. It's the private 722 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:47.639 diary of Colonel Vice is held in Aylesbury, which is 723 00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:53.000 to the north of London, bucking from Buckinghamshire Archives. That's 724 00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:58.280 where I think it's referenced d D one twenty I 725 00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.679 think it is. So you can go and see him, 726 00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.039 you know, if if, if you want to and look 727 00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.320 up that page. But but there's there's there's a bunch 728 00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:09.559 of other stuff in his private journal. 729 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.280 So these are all read his flags. These are red 730 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.679 flags that yeah, yeah, picking up and showing that he 731 00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:23.280 has premeditation involved in his uh wish to identify the 732 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:29.480 pyramid as a Kufu bill. 733 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:30.960 Right there, go ahead, right there on his diary there 734 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.920 and his diary. It's not in his published book for 735 00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:37.159 obvious reasons, but it's there in his private notes. 736 00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:43.960 Okay, what's the most important new evidence or insight that 737 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.880 you presented in the hoax to the new book? 738 00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:52.960 Okay? Well, I only assud have found this fairly recently, 739 00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:58.840 just going through mister holds. Uh I went to British 740 00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:05.599 Museum to record them. Mister Hill's take photographs of all 741 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.880 the similar drawings, of twenty eight of them that mister 742 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:12.960 Hill may of all, not all, but some of the 743 00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:17.400 markings supposedly that he made copy of from the Chamber, 744 00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.960 which I think was actually copied into the chamber using 745 00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:28.519 mister Hill's drawings. But anyway, there's one drawing that I struggled. 746 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.719 I struggled with for a long time, and then it 747 00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:33.800 dawned on me. I had a close look at it. 748 00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:39.920 Now I could match up twenty five of his twenty 749 00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:43.280 eight drawings. Now it's important to understand here that when 750 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:51.920 mister Hill made his drawings, use his signature, because you 751 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.519 have to understand that looking at these markings, some of 752 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:59.239 them just like random markings, you didn't know which way 753 00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:03.119 they should up or around, you know, because they're hieroglyphs. 754 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.400 We don't unless it's the figure of a bird or something, 755 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.679 well you know that's its feet and that's its head, 756 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:10.280 you know which orientation. But in the lack of it, 757 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:13.719 in the absence of that of an animal or a 758 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:17.840 person and you're looking at them, you probably don't really 759 00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:20.639 know which way up they shoup. So what mister Hall 760 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.880 did was he used when when he's looking at this 761 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:28.599 thing in the wall that he's supposedly caught. He used 762 00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:32.159 his signature as this way up, yeah, this way up 763 00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.719 an indicator, so that the academics when they're sending these 764 00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:41.840 drawings back to London, the academics in London, they knew 765 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.760 which way round he copied these markings from on the wall, 766 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.079 so they would just rotate it missile signatures up the 767 00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:54.079 right way and that's the way the big copy. So 768 00:59:55.039 --> 01:00:01.199 just in a sideline, the Kufu carcter is the wrong way. 769 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:05.280 It's wrong. It looks like mister as I said, twenty 770 01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:11.360 five out of twenty eight agree with that vention. So 771 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.280 if you look at twenty five out of the twenty eight, 772 01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:19.000 mister Holls. Because the drawings on the wall are oriented randomly, 773 01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.159 they're not all upright, some are upside down, some are 774 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:27.559 three sixty, some are two seventy rotation wise. So he 775 01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:29.960 uses signature. So when you look at a three of 776 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.119 them all and you look at mister Hills, you compare 777 01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:36.559 that with mister Hills for similar sheets. You can check 778 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:40.559 the survey drawings of the orientation with mister Hills for 779 01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:46.079 similar drawing. Because his drawing could be rotated, it's free standing, irritated, 780 01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:50.840 any of four different orientations. So when you compare his 781 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.639 signature and the drawing with his signature twenty five of 782 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.800 the match, the survey drawings show you the orientation in 783 01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:03.159 relation to the lower in the ceiling. The survey three 784 01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:07.280 the orientation and his twenty five out of twenty eight match, well, 785 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.719 it doesn't match. Are the two that don't match are 786 01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:13.480 the Kufu cartoon. There's two drawings acts of the Kufu cartoons. 787 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:20.320 They both match. It's like this, mister Hill's signature should 788 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.679 be rotated and into degrees. So I don't think mister 789 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:25.599 Hill made a mistake because it wouldn't make a mistake, 790 01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:29.519 and two drawings of the Kufu cartous, they wouldn't make 791 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.880 a mistake like that. That was his convention. He knew 792 01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:37.280 what he was doing and it looked like when you 793 01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:43.880 remember said earlier, Cliff, that the Kufu cartouche in the 794 01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:48.639 chamber is vertical. Yeah, so that's the way mister Hill 795 01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:52.800 should have signed the Kufu drawing. He made the fix 796 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:56.199 similar drawings, but he did. He signed it as though 797 01:01:56.239 --> 01:02:00.079 he was looking at that drawing definitely horizontally. 798 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.679 Do you find evidence of Bill practicing the cartouche anywhere? 799 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.119 I mean, if he's the one, if he's the one 800 01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:12.840 that did it, if Vice had Hill create the cartouche 801 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.159 on the wall, is there like any evidence of him 802 01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:26.119 practicing writing the Cufu cartoons anywhere? That'd be a smoker. 803 01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:27.599 No. 804 01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:33.639 No, I mean Weight does make small sketches of the 805 01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:38.719 Cufu cartous in his written diary. He does. But anyway, 806 01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:41.800 I was going to come on to the piece of evidence, 807 01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:47.159 which I think is the smoking gun. There's this this 808 01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:53.159 drawing that mister Hill made again this those three where 809 01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:58.320 his signature doesn't match the two Cufu was in this 810 01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:02.480 particular veryin the Other thing it doesn't match is the 811 01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:06.000 scale he was told to make one to one drawings 812 01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:10.360 of the markings. This drawing doesn't match the scale of 813 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:14.599 the drawing that everybody says it's meant to be. So 814 01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:18.440 there is this drawing on all people are saying, Oh, 815 01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:20.719 that's that's that one there, you know, let's call it 816 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:24.800 number twenty eight or this drawing on the wall the 817 01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:29.280 chamber wall matches mister Hill's number twenty eight drawing. Well, 818 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:33.679 the scale is different for a one to one supposedly 819 01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:39.039 into one drawing. They're not. The orientation is wrong, scale's wrong, 820 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:44.360 and the middle sign is completely wrong. The middle sign 821 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.239 is completely wrong, and it's not a mistake. The middle 822 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:51.800 sign is a genuine ancient gypsum hieroglyph. So it's not 823 01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:55.119 just that he made a mistake. And he'd been used 824 01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:59.880 to drawing this particular sign several times in other drawers 825 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:05.360 he made. So anyway, that's three things that are all 826 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:08.480 wrong with this drawing that's supposed to be the one 827 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:12.599 in the chamber. It isn't. It's not the same, it's 828 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:16.559 it's But the problem is is that the drawing doesn't 829 01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.960 match any of the marketing, the group of markings in 830 01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.920 any of the chambers. What I'm saying, Cliff, is this 831 01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:28.320 drawing that mister Hill made is not in the chamber. 832 01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:32.400 The markings do not exist in the chamber. 833 01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.840 Do you think Vice had him just credit in how 834 01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:40.119 it put just so he can nerds to show others. 835 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:45.719 No, what I think happened is they had this group 836 01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:51.599 of similar drawings that they copied from outside the pyramid, 837 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.679 these these markings vi els that they were finding in 838 01:04:54.719 --> 01:05:06.320 their brubble pilots. But they copy of this one. They 839 01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:09.199 forgot to copy it. That's why it doesn't exist, because 840 01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:14.159 the overlooked copying it into into the pyramid. That's a 841 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:18.320 kind of dumb mistake forgers make, you know. That's a 842 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:21.800 kind of dumb thing, you know. So that's a hell 843 01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.239 Drew are saying. That's not in the chambers. Where where 844 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:29.400 did they get these marks from that he drew? Where 845 01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.400 did they get them from? If not inside the pyramid. 846 01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:36.639 It's a real mystery story. I think the significance of 847 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:43.639 everything you're saying is this is what Egyptology uses to 848 01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:47.679 identify the pyramid builder. And this is the big problem 849 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:56.320 is I think the next question Scott is why don't 850 01:05:56.679 --> 01:06:00.960 Egyptologists question this mark and why is it the only 851 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.320 mark out there? And I think we started the show 852 01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:08.719 by saying there really is no other identification identifying uh, 853 01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:16.039 writing that Kufu built the pyramid or had it commissioned uh, 854 01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:18.760 which is what a lot of these pharaohs did. They'd 855 01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:23.679 have a sculpture of building a temple commission and it's 856 01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:28.159 written about, but Kufu doesn't show up anywhere as the 857 01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:32.159 commissioning pharaoh of this great pyramid. 858 01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:39.920 Well, there is a papyetis called the Wadi al Jar papyetis, 859 01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:43.760 or the so called deity of Metror, who was an 860 01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:49.159 ancient Egyptian I think captain of an ancient Egyptian boat, 861 01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:54.360 which this papyetis was found a harbor in the Red 862 01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:57.960 Sea and ancient harbor in the Red Sea, probably about 863 01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:01.000 ten years ago or something like this. This papyrus was 864 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.960 found and it talks about aket Cufu, which is the 865 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:08.360 eat of the Great Pyramid, and it talks about, you know, 866 01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:19.440 this this captain of this boat transporting stone blocks, limestone blocks, Tua, 867 01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:26.880 limestone blocks to Akit Cufu, andtologists say, oh, that was 868 01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:31.639 for building the Great but you know, well that's actually 869 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.519 a bit of a leap. It doesn't actually say that. 870 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:37.599 The Diary of Mirror or the Baddie l JRF papyri 871 01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:42.559 does not say that the blocks specifically were for the 872 01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:45.719 Great Pyramid, you know, and even if it did, you know, 873 01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:49.519 it could have been repairing the pyramid, it could have 874 01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:54.639 been you know, building other you know structures on the 875 01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:59.679 Giza Plateau that these blocks were for. You know. So 876 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.880 you know, so there is another papyrus there, but it's 877 01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:06.639 not conclusive yeah, it mentions Cufu, which is the name 878 01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:11.360 of the pyramid. It doesn't really mention Cufu himself. It 879 01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:14.360 mentions the name of the pyramid, but that might have 880 01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:17.359 been the name of the pyramid for thousands of years. 881 01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:23.079 You know. It's writing about something that there may be repairing, 882 01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:28.960 you know, So it's not conclusive evidence. The Diary of Mirror, 883 01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:35.239 however much Egyptologists wish it was conclusive evidence, it just isn't. 884 01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:46.439 So that exists. So there's nothing really other than these 885 01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:52.159 inscriptions within that are ledily found within the Great Pyramid 886 01:08:53.520 --> 01:09:01.640 to help us date the monument. There's there's nothing the 887 01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:08.479 Kufu Kartousha are contagaptologists helps us date the monument, or 888 01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:15.399 words of doctor Mark Lehner descriptions clinch it clinch you know, 889 01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:20.600 the construction of the pyramid bike in two thousand, five 890 01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:25.159 hundred BC. That's how important these marks are to Egyptology. 891 01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:30.399 You take these markings away, it just opens the floodgates. 892 01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:33.479 And then they don't want that. They want their narrative 893 01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:39.239 to remain, you know, and they will, I suppose fight 894 01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:43.359 truth and nailed and ensure that it does. It does. 895 01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:48.239 So you're you're an engineer Scott. You've been in the 896 01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:49.640 inside the Kuflu pyramid. 897 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:52.239 Yeah, yeah, what. 898 01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:57.840 Do you think it was built for? And it wasn't Kufu. 899 01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:03.319 What's your hypothesis or theory and who built it in 900 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:04.199 perhaps when? 901 01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:10.319 Right? Okay, that's a lie, this is yeah, yeah, it is. 902 01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.039 And I've got a lot to say about that as well. 903 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:22.760 I to base my theory on what the ancient Egyptians 904 01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:28.199 tell us happened, Okay, I always work from what they 905 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:37.319 say happened. Now there's this and because egyptology or academics 906 01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:41.520 like that, it's just a legend, nothing more, a myth. 907 01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:47.439 There's this legend called the legend of Saurid, and apparently 908 01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:55.119 the legend tells us that Saurid constructed the Great Pyramids 909 01:10:55.119 --> 01:10:58.560 at Giza, not just one, but the Great Pyramids at 910 01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:08.319 Giza because a disaster was unfolding in Egypt and actually 911 01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:13.079 probably right around the world at the time. I think 912 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:16.960 the monument is much older. I think it was probably 913 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:22.119 probably around the younger dry ass time, about two thousand 914 01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:28.640 years ago. Now, I do think there's a possibility that 915 01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:32.920 it was built b Cufu, but you've maybe got our 916 01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:39.640 timeline long or maybe the Cufu is a of the 917 01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:44.920 fourth dynasty. It was maybe named after original builder of 918 01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:48.520 the Great Pyramid. You know how like in the UK 919 01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:53.039 with Queen Elizabeth and Queen Elizabeth, you know Elizabeth the first, 920 01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:55.680 Elizabeth the second, you know, so there could have been 921 01:11:55.720 --> 01:12:01.920 something like that. I definitely I'm of the opinion of 922 01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:05.920 the opinion that the monument probably date back to about 923 01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:15.199 twelve hundred twelve thousand years ago. Now, this legend, and 924 01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:24.439 it is quite important, says that the earth turned over. Now, 925 01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:28.680 I know some people will think, oh God, here we go, 926 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.760 you know, all shift, you know, earth crust displacement, Oh 927 01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:37.840 here we go again, absolute nonsense. Well yeah, that might 928 01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:42.840 be right. But let me just say that the ancient 929 01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:51.920 Egyptians and several different texts, maybe five six maybe different 930 01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:57.399 priory speak of the earth turning over, and one of 931 01:12:57.439 --> 01:13:01.560 them talks about how when it occurred that the sun 932 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:05.319 then set in the east and rose in the west, 933 01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:10.880 that did this on two occasions. We have accounts from 934 01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:18.640 birch every part of the world, from you know, Greenland, Europe, China, 935 01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:27.319 South America, North America, all these ancient texts saying that 936 01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:33.840 that it turned over. Now I know, it sounds really 937 01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:40.840 really what Yeah, sure, but how can so many of 938 01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:46.600 these the ancients describe the same thing. Are they all hallucinating? 939 01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:51.680 But they all just imagine it, you know? And we 940 01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:56.439 have our whole bunch of evidence that Charles Hatgood presented 941 01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:00.359 in his book Earth Shifting Crust, which made is like 942 01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:04.680 nails it, you know. And there's there's more evidence that's 943 01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:12.760 been uncovered remediently of absolutely monumental mega mega floods in 944 01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:17.960 North Africa, in the west coast South Africa. The Egypt's 945 01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:25.479 were as well, EU the Arabia, America and Siberi. Yeah, 946 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:31.359 all happening around twelve thousand years ago. These mega floods 947 01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:37.880 were happening. Now for for our mega flood to be 948 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:43.720 happening in Siberia and West Africa and North America all 949 01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:48.039 at the same time, that to me suggests that the 950 01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:54.239 entire planet was in motion. These floods happened because of 951 01:14:54.279 --> 01:15:00.760 this turning motion of the earth. So the ancient Gypsum's 952 01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:05.000 tell us that that is why they built the Great Pyramid, 953 01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:09.199 because the air turned over and they anticipated that in 954 01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:13.239 three hundred years after this event had occurred, that there 955 01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:17.399 would be a giant flood that would drown the entire country. 956 01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:25.800 That's what would happen. So Kufu said, Okay, what we're 957 01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:31.680 going to do is builds and in these pyramids we 958 01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:36.960 will place everything that we need to resurrect the kingdom 959 01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:39.880 for you know, for there to be a rebirth of 960 01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:45.680 the Kingdom of Idiot. That's what they were basically doing. 961 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:51.760 They were building these monuments as a disaster vault, disaster 962 01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:57.880 hovery system. And that's why the pyramids suddenly just appeared 963 01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:05.720 almost out of nowhere. It's why several pharaohs built multiple pyramids, 964 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:09.359 like Whne, the pharaoh Hohney, who was Kufu's grandfather, built 965 01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:12.840 eight pyramids, all very all very small pyramids, but he 966 01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:17.840 built eight pyramids, none of which had you know, chambers 967 01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:21.439 of any kind inside them. What that was about was 968 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:29.079 training population to cut transport and stack stones. It was 969 01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:32.000 a it was a training program for the country. That's 970 01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:38.239 what Whneys you know, part of the I call it 971 01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:43.279 Osai project or sire. This this great recovery plan that 972 01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:47.319 they're putting motion. Because it takes several generations to get 973 01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:52.680 this plan finalized. Gizer was the plan, that was the plan, 974 01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:58.520 that was the end it was Gezer, so Honey started 975 01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:02.600 the plan. Then his sons nephew continued the plan. He 976 01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:08.399 started building large pyramids, but they wanted to build you know, 977 01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:15.159 perfectly true pyramids. He eventually succeeded on his fourth attempt. 978 01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:19.840 He built a small pyramid. Then he built three large pyramids, 979 01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:25.079 some collapsed, you know, some that were steep. So it 980 01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:29.720 was a learning curve before implementing the plan. It was 981 01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:33.199 all a learning curve, you know how like the Apollo 982 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:37.520 missions in the States in the nineteen sixties. Yeah, they 983 01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:41.720 didn't this, you know, Polo Missionary straight to the Moon, no, 984 01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:46.279 you ha, the Gemini missions, yeah, the Saturn missions all before, 985 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:51.760 you know, the learning curve in order to get Neil 986 01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:55.720 Armstrong buzzle on the Moon, you know. So it was 987 01:17:55.760 --> 01:18:01.199 a similar thing back you know, in those times, its 988 01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:06.079 disaster was unfolding on the planet. They were basically building 989 01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:11.960 for to save themselves. This is what they were doing. 990 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:15.640 The pyramids needed to be really tall so that people 991 01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.680 could see them from a long way away because this 992 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:24.800 is where underneath them. To the size of them. Underneath them, 993 01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:28.199 they'd have all these chambers filled with everything that they 994 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:32.600 would need, you know, for the population to the west 995 01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:38.119 to the west of the middle pyramid of cafre These galleries, 996 01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:41.399 they are about one hundred, one hundred of them. They're 997 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:46.520 about about one hundred feet long, about twelve fifteen feet 998 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.319 eid and about twelve feet deep. And there's about one 999 01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:54.520 hundred of these best of caferew'sh pyramid. You're just just 1000 01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:58.680 like twenty meters or so thirty meters away from the 1001 01:18:58.720 --> 01:19:03.560 Caffree's pyramid and they're huge. The massive under storage facilities 1002 01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:09.840 and that's what easyptologists say, other storage facilities for Caffrege's 1003 01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:14.520 afterlife or something. No, since this was for the recovery 1004 01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:19.439 plan for the Kingdom. Now here's where it gets interesting. 1005 01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:25.760 Under the step pick they found and massive amounts of 1006 01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:26.800 storage vessels. 1007 01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:32.279 We're going to take a short commercial break to allow 1008 01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:37.239 our sponsors to identify themselves, and will return shortly with 1009 01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:42.199 my guest today, Scott Creating, discussing his latest release, The 1010 01:19:42.239 --> 01:20:30.920 Great Pyramid Hawks Part Two. Will be right back. My 1011 01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:33.960 guest today is research investigator Scott Creighton, who's written a 1012 01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:38.399 new book called The Great Pyramid Hoax Part Two. He 1013 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:42.560 has given me permission to use photographs in the YouTube channel. 1014 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.159 If you go to Earth Ancients YouTube you can see 1015 01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:49.800 many of the images of the forged cartouche of Cufu 1016 01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:58.319 and also other documents related to Colonel Vase. I mean 1017 01:20:58.399 --> 01:20:59.880 it says goes your pyramid. 1018 01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:04.199 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I found You're right. 1019 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:08.720 They have far all kinds of plate wear and stillware. 1020 01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:12.520 And very stray yeah yeah. And these would all have 1021 01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:17.239 been been filled with grain. Now the grain now is 1022 01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:23.279 the grain now is all over the floor of those 1023 01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:28.560 step pyramid and all I mean there's miles of galleries 1024 01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:34.640 underneath the step pyramid and are filled with grain. You know. 1025 01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:42.039 The main thing I wanted to speak about here was 1026 01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:48.039 the most important thing that Cufu steid he wanted to 1027 01:21:48.039 --> 01:21:53.560 put within the Great Pyramid. And this thing, Cliff explains 1028 01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:58.800 so much, so many of the different mysteries we have 1029 01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:06.760 of the pyramid construction program. He said that he would 1030 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:12.479 place the bodies of his ancestors within the Great Pyramid. 1031 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:16.359 That was the most important thing. And there was a 1032 01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:20.479 reason why that was the most important thing, because the 1033 01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:26.439 deceased ancestors, what are called it o cyrus kings that 1034 01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:30.760 could commune with the gods for the benefit of the 1035 01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:35.600 living kingdom. Yeah, that's what the role of the deceased 1036 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:39.560 king was in the afterlife, was to assist the living kingdom, 1037 01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:42.000 make sure the sun would glow, the wind would blow, 1038 01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:47.039 the crops, the nile would flow. That was their role. Now, 1039 01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:52.239 if all these kings were washed away in a deadly 1040 01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:57.640 deluge and their bodies, their deceased mummified bodies, completely destroyed, 1041 01:22:58.239 --> 01:23:02.680 the rebuff couldn't happen, just couldn't happen because the newd 1042 01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:07.680 these bodies preserved dean in order that they continue this 1043 01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:10.479 dialogue of your light with the gods, for the for 1044 01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.520 the living kingdom. It was their role to make sure 1045 01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:17.760 that after this disaster, the kingdom could be reborn. So 1046 01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:22.800 Kuthu put all his ancestors within the Great Pyramid is 1047 01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:28.079 the thing, the Grand Gallery. Now we're both being in there. 1048 01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:32.439 Did you ever notice the notches on Now there's like 1049 01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:34.680 two pavements or side, so this. 1050 01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:37.760 Big matches gone from this to the base all the 1051 01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:39.960 way to the very tap. And you know that no 1052 01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:45.239 one's been able to really explain them very well. And 1053 01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:46.399 I know you listen to this. 1054 01:23:47.319 --> 01:23:53.159 Yeah, these notches. When al Mamon into the pyramid in 1055 01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:56.560 eight twenty eighty, he was the first person to break 1056 01:23:56.600 --> 01:24:00.199 into it. He went into the grand gallery, and that 1057 01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:07.119 said that he found the statues of Cufu's ancestors. Right now, 1058 01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:13.720 they're no longer there. But this is very very interesting 1059 01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:16.239 because I don't know if you ever count the notches. 1060 01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:19.760 There's twenty seven not that way, and it's twenty seven 1061 01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:23.640 on this side. Now, if you also notice the notches, 1062 01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:26.159 there's a large notch two and a half feet wide, 1063 01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:28.439 and then there's another two feet wide two and a 1064 01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:31.199 half two two and a half all the way up 1065 01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:35.840 both sides of the Grand allergy. So basically these notches 1066 01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:40.119 and just above them the hole in the wall. Now, 1067 01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:44.600 these notches and the insect holes were to stabilize a 1068 01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:48.720 statue of a king and then his queen, smaller, smaller 1069 01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:51.960 notes for the queen, larger notch for the king. In 1070 01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:57.119 Cuthu's ancestors, cufu'stors, king and the chief queen allay up 1071 01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:01.399 twenty seven twenty seven of them. Now, if you actually 1072 01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:05.439 go and count, well how many ancestors the Kufu actually have. 1073 01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:08.520 So if you go from Kufu all the way back 1074 01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:11.960 his father's nephew, all the way back to the pharaoh, 1075 01:25:12.039 --> 01:25:15.920 many is the first king of the unified Ancient Egypt 1076 01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:20.359 was many Is it was twenty seven mm hmm, it's 1077 01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:25.399 twenty seven okay. Now here's where it gets really interesting. 1078 01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:33.920 These were just ordinary buffane statues just to you know, 1079 01:25:34.119 --> 01:25:42.680 celebrate Cufu's ancestors. Every tomb or pharaohs tom always had 1080 01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:50.119 what's called a car statue, a statue of could be 1081 01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:53.239 a large statue, a small statue. And the thing is 1082 01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:57.279 this car statue. The reason that had a car statue 1083 01:25:57.399 --> 01:26:01.800 was because if the body of the king decayed so 1084 01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:06.199 badly that the car of the king's soul could no 1085 01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:10.239 longer recognize the body, its body could no longer recognize it. 1086 01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:10.359 What. 1087 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:13.479 It's a belts and braces thing. I don't know, if 1088 01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:17.720 you're familiar with express and a backup and if you like, 1089 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:21.079 you know, you put braces on, you also put a 1090 01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:26.039 belt onup right, so as a backup. And so that 1091 01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:29.119 if the body of the king did decay, the car 1092 01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:33.760 the soul we have a surrogate body a statue that 1093 01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:39.920 it could continue this you know, eternal loop with the cosmos. 1094 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:44.199 It wouldn't the king wouldn't die because if it's soul 1095 01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:47.920 could not recognize the body, there's no surrogate statue. The 1096 01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:54.079 king would die a permanent death, so they use these cats. Essentially, 1097 01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:57.439 the body did decay, the car wouldn't die. The king 1098 01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:00.399 wouldn't die. He's got a statue the backup plant. Were 1099 01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:05.399 these statues cast statues? Now? The thing is, I always 1100 01:27:05.399 --> 01:27:09.800 put these cast statues in the two below the body, 1101 01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:15.319 very close to the body, but always lower than the body. 1102 01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:22.119 This is why I cliff that when we eventually open 1103 01:27:22.239 --> 01:27:24.640 up the big void or see inside the big void, 1104 01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:26.239 guess what's going to be in there? 1105 01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:27.640 My statue. 1106 01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:34.399 Actually no actual mummified bodies, because Kufu tells us he moved. 1107 01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:39.119 He took all these ancestor of kings, moved their bodies 1108 01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:43.039 to safeguard them against his coming gelude twenty seven of them. 1109 01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:47.000 And inside the pyramid. There's only one place that can be. 1110 01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:51.439 That's a big void, which is above the Grand gallery. 1111 01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:54.640 Member said, the statue always had to be lower than 1112 01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:59.279 the body, and the statues in the Grand Gallery the 1113 01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:03.520 cast to for the body's above. 1114 01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:07.840 How did they get up to that blood though it was? 1115 01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:12.239 Was there a is there a sealed hallway or. 1116 01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:12.960 What they did? 1117 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:13.800 No? 1118 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:16.520 No, there's there's this is This is the really ingenious 1119 01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:20.520 thing about the Big Void is that they constructed, you know, 1120 01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:22.960 how the pyramid is built layer by layer by layer. 1121 01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:28.000 They deliberately ensured there's no passageways, no corridors. They deliberately 1122 01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:30.279 ensure that so that there would not even be the 1123 01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:35.159 slightest trace of of anything to you know, to have 1124 01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:39.239 a sort of attack point for any tom raaders. There's 1125 01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:43.399 just no attack point. You can't see anything. There's no passageways, 1126 01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:46.600 there's no corridors. What they did was when the pyramid 1127 01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:49.920 was building, being constructed layer by layer, there comes a 1128 01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:54.840 point where the big voyade walls, floor alls are all built, 1129 01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:58.640 but the ceiling is stipping. The lower the in from 1130 01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:02.239 the ceiling, Oh my god. And then and then the 1131 01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:06.000 built it up layer by layer until it's completed. That's 1132 01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:07.880 how they got the men. And there's no possibly. 1133 01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:10.560 You know, it's funny you mentioned the Big Boy because 1134 01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:16.000 I think Zahia has been hinting that they're going to 1135 01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:20.800 open up a space to look inside that void. He's 1136 01:29:20.840 --> 01:29:24.600 been hinting at it since the Japanese Consortium of scientists 1137 01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:32.000 were using the mom therapy. Mom therapy. But I mean, 1138 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:36.880 we're left wondering when the day is going to happen. 1139 01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:43.279 But happening right now? Is it really happening right now? Yeah, 1140 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:47.560 I don't know. If you're familiar with Limitless and Matt 1141 01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:53.119 Biale and podcast he interviewed Zahi Hawa, probably not interviewed 1142 01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:56.039 a while back, a few months ago or back in 1143 01:29:56.119 --> 01:30:00.439 July and last year. I think maybe, and Mark is 1144 01:30:01.479 --> 01:30:06.680 one of the funders of the expedition to I think 1145 01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:12.159 whether they're using some endoscopic camera or a small drone 1146 01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:18.159 drilled from through from Campbell's chamber through to the Big Void, 1147 01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:22.039 and then they're going to put this drone or endoscopic 1148 01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:25.399 camera into the Big Void. So it's happening now. The 1149 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:30.079 said in the interview that or I've read is that 1150 01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:35.199 they might have result early twenty twenty six, but nothing's 1151 01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:36.279 been published yet. 1152 01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:36.880 Yeah. 1153 01:30:37.479 --> 01:30:38.479 So so. 1154 01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:41.159 But the thing the thing about this, this this thing 1155 01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:44.680 I was telling you about the Grand Gallery and moving 1156 01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:50.960 the bodies of the ancestors explains so much. You know, 1157 01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:58.600 how there's been You may have heard this that the 1158 01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:05.479 mystery that there's been several kings before Cufu, not after Kufu, 1159 01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:11.840 but before Cufu, there's been several ancient Egyptsian kings sarcopha 1160 01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:17.800 guy where they opened them. They were perfectly sealed, undisturbed. 1161 01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:20.000 They opened them and they were empty. 1162 01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:21.840 Yeah. 1163 01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:27.960 Yeah, and they'd been undisturbed, but they were rent the new, 1164 01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:34.560 the new that had been used, because particularly there was 1165 01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:38.239 one it was the mother of Cufu had hit ephyras 1166 01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:44.680 our sarcophae guy was found and there was a great big, 1167 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:50.359 you know event in Geza, I think in eighteen twenty 1168 01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:54.640 in nineteen twenties to open this, and then with the 1169 01:31:55.359 --> 01:32:00.600 American egyptologist George Reisner, and when they got their uph 1170 01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:05.319 he could see in he basically said, the idea is 1171 01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:10.600 not receiving. It was his comment. Yeah, the things ended, 1172 01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:13.079 but they could see it had been used. They could 1173 01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:16.800 see the tomb was completely understood. There was gold still 1174 01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:19.640 in the tombs, so it hadn't been raided by tomb raiders. 1175 01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:25.880 There was markings stains on the floor of the sarcopha guy, 1176 01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:27.760 so they know it had been used. But for some 1177 01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:31.119 reason her body had been taken out and put somewhere 1178 01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:36.119 else the big void. That's what Kuvu tells us. That's 1179 01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:42.079 why we're finding all these sarcophae guy that were used. 1180 01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:50.079 Then they basically took them out and ritually resealed, ritually resealed. 1181 01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:51.399 You know, the. 1182 01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:59.159 Original circopha guy again out of respect, I presume, and 1183 01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:03.560 were of the bodies, and so he decreated pedramid just 1184 01:33:03.640 --> 01:33:09.680 as a kufie Latin tells us. So, yeah, that's why 1185 01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:17.079 we have these empty sarcophaga because just amazing good Latin 1186 01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:20.079 tells us, the city of Latin tells us. And you 1187 01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:22.680 know what's why we have these statues in the big 1188 01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:26.279 void because of cast statues for the kings that were 1189 01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:29.960 placed above the cast statues always below the body. 1190 01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:35.640 Yeah, amazing. Yeah, the books called the Great Pyramid Hoax. 1191 01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:39.600 My guessday has been Scott Creton. I want to mention 1192 01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:44.560 to you listeners that the books available on Amazon. But 1193 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:49.760 Scott was mentioning that he is also on Graham Hancock's 1194 01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:53.880 YouTube channel. I think he does a video and if 1195 01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:56.319 you want to hear more about this, you can go 1196 01:33:56.479 --> 01:34:00.039 there and see that, which is fantastic because I I 1197 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:03.079 didn't have a clue that Scott had done this recording, 1198 01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:07.680 so you can get more information there. You know, It's funny, Scott, 1199 01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:11.560 because when there was this consortium of I think it 1200 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:16.199 was Italian, Japanese Egyptian scientists that did this scanning and 1201 01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:19.439 they found this big void they had and this is 1202 01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:22.640 at least seven to eight nine, ten years ago now 1203 01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:28.640 twenty seventeen, okay, yeah, fairly well not. You know, a 1204 01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:33.319 while ago they had mentioned the void and that steps 1205 01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:36.960 were being made to make it available for observation, but 1206 01:34:37.079 --> 01:34:39.880 it never happened. And this is a typical problem we 1207 01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.720 have with the Egyptian authorities. They tend to drag their 1208 01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:48.079 feet or they would rather not let any more data 1209 01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:53.880 out for whatever, for whatever reason, protect protect and to 1210 01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:56.880 protect protect the narrative, because who knows what's in there. 1211 01:34:56.920 --> 01:34:59.119 I mean, there's been rumors that this is Edgar Casey's 1212 01:34:59.159 --> 01:35:06.000 famous library of data from the ancient past. Who knows what. So, 1213 01:35:07.880 --> 01:35:11.960 but hey, this has been a wonderful chance to catch 1214 01:35:12.039 --> 01:35:17.039 up with you, Scott as we conclude where are you 1215 01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:23.840 at this point in terms of not only a visor's data. 1216 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:28.199 And we didn't even get to the thought that why 1217 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:31.880 are Egyptologists questioning Vice's narrative? 1218 01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:33.000 Uh? 1219 01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:36.840 And why are they so accepting of this one Cartouche 1220 01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:42.119 as the the final word? Who built the pyramid? 1221 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.800 Yeah? I mean it's it's difficult. I mean, it's difficult 1222 01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:50.840 for Egyptologists and wanting to work an egypt to go 1223 01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:54.479 off peace, so to speak, and you know, the one 1224 01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:58.119 they want to continue the research and get research FRTs 1225 01:35:58.199 --> 01:36:00.159 and so forth and so on. It's it's a go 1226 01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:03.760 to go off peace. But I do know of Egyptologists 1227 01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:08.479 that have done and gone off peace, and you know, 1228 01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:13.399 I'm in communication with them. They tell me that, you know, 1229 01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:17.239 you're right, those smarts are fake. They tell me that 1230 01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:19.600 I can't I wish I could give them names. I'm 1231 01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:22.279 not just saying this, I'm making it up, absolutely not. 1232 01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:25.960 Some people have accused me, you're just saying that, Well, 1233 01:36:26.279 --> 01:36:27.319 why would I want to do that? 1234 01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:27.720 You know. 1235 01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:34.680 You know, so there are Egyptologists that say, yeah, we 1236 01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:38.079 know they're fake, but we can't say anything. That's what 1237 01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:42.439 I was told by an Egyptologist, you know. So, which 1238 01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:46.640 which is is really disappointing, but it's just the way 1239 01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:50.000 it is. And you know, ma'am, I'm hopeful that one day, 1240 01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:54.880 when when the old guard pass on, that some of 1241 01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:01.520 the younger Egyptologists, more hopefully open minded atologies, begin to 1242 01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:05.920 look at this whole question of ancient past and the 1243 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:09.920 surd legend. Well could it be true? Well, I think 1244 01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:14.680 it's because actually the name that's called Surud, but the 1245 01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:19.560 name Surrid can actually translate to Cufu. I won't go 1246 01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:22.439 into that. It's all in the book and you know 1247 01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:25.680 if if if, folks won't read it. But the name 1248 01:37:25.760 --> 01:37:30.199 Surrid is actually the name Cufu and explained in the 1249 01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:31.199 book how. 1250 01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:33.359 It is fantasy. 1251 01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:33.680 Again. 1252 01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:37.479 The book is The Great Pyramid Hugs number two. It's 1253 01:37:37.479 --> 01:37:39.800 almost like a TV or excuse me, it's a follow 1254 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:45.079 up movie. Hey, wonderful speaking with you Scott again. Congratulations 1255 01:37:45.159 --> 01:37:48.359 on this new book and continues success. 1256 01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:53.319 Yep, it's been great talking to you again, Cliff. As 1257 01:37:53.359 --> 01:37:56.119 I said, it's been a while, so we need to 1258 01:37:56.159 --> 01:38:01.199 make it's not so long till next exactly. Yeah. 1259 01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:06.319 There will be a gallery of photographs that you can 1260 01:38:06.399 --> 01:38:09.640 see on the YouTube channel go to Earth Ancients and 1261 01:38:09.960 --> 01:38:14.399 look up Scott Creighton The Great Pyramid Hoax Part two, 1262 01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:19.199 and also on Facebook and on Instagram. I'll have a 1263 01:38:19.319 --> 01:38:22.760 selection of photographs from the book. This brand new book 1264 01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:25.159 came out a few months ago with a lot of 1265 01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:29.279 details on the forgery, the Cufu forgery, and you can 1266 01:38:29.359 --> 01:38:35.159 see why Scott is concerned about it. But you know, 1267 01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:39.279 the bottom line is this is the only proof that 1268 01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:44.560 Egyptologists have that Cufu built the Great Pyramid. There has 1269 01:38:44.720 --> 01:38:50.199 never been a stuck, a steely, a standing monument, any 1270 01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:54.600 writing that has been known. Actually, other than a small, 1271 01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:59.239 just tiny little statue of Cufu, we have very little 1272 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:09.159 of him in terms of statuary or carvings or descriptions. 1273 01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:14.039 So he's I mean, that's over three five hundred years ago, 1274 01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:20.199 is when he was set pharaoh of the Upper and 1275 01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:23.720 Lower Nile. So that reminds me. I have to take 1276 01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:28.640 photographs of the king's chamber this time. I didn't take 1277 01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:31.439 enough of him, and I'll take some of the Grand 1278 01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:33.680 Gallery so you can take a look and see why 1279 01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:38.039 there's so much interest in it. It's very odd. It's 1280 01:39:38.119 --> 01:39:42.880 all very machine like. It's not really made for people. 1281 01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:47.520 In fact, without the woodsteps that were added decades ago, 1282 01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:53.520 you couldn't get from the entrance, the dynamited entrance to 1283 01:39:53.960 --> 01:40:00.800 the queen or kings chambers without the stairs. It's not 1284 01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.800 made for human occupancy. It's pretty strange. 1285 01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:05.039 Hey be sure to. 1286 01:40:05.119 --> 01:40:08.600 Check out cliff notes. They are a pairing twice a week. 1287 01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:13.560 You can see them on Instagram, Facebook, also where you 1288 01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:18.960 have just launched a new cliff Notes page on YouTube, 1289 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:22.159 so you can see all the details there. And I'm 1290 01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:27.000 giving out latest date details. In some cases, I'm at 1291 01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:30.279 a ruin or on a trip and a lot of 1292 01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:35.720 this material comes from various tours and I haven't been 1293 01:40:37.520 --> 01:40:41.880 diligent enough to be taking images of a lot of 1294 01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:43.399 these ruins, and I need to do that. 1295 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:44.920 So there you go. 1296 01:40:45.119 --> 01:40:48.720 Cliff Notes once or twice a week. Find it on 1297 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:53.680 your favorite video feed, Facebook, most of the social media 1298 01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:56.000 is where you're going to find it. So cliff Notes, 1299 01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:01.079 check it out right. That's it for this program. I 1300 01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:03.439 want to think. My guest today is Scott Craighton coming 1301 01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:07.079 to us from Scotland. And there's always the team of 1302 01:41:07.159 --> 01:41:10.199 guil Tour, Mark Foster and Feya Pavar. 1303 01:41:11.279 --> 01:41:13.560 You guys rock all. 1304 01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:15.840 Right, take care of you well and we will talk 1305 01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:16.840 to you next time. 1306 01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:43.399 That that that that. 1307 01:42:45.119 --> 01:44:28.119 That that's true. Contacts ut cut cut cut cut. 1308 01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:31.640 Cut cut. 1309 01:44:32.880 --> 01:45:29.640 Cut cut stutt yet. 1310 01:45:24.039 --> 01:47:11.920 That's true. 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