Speaker 1: And we are back. All right, So we got four trailers,
by my account, that should be pretty fun to discuss.
Speaker 2: I count five, you count five.
Speaker 1: I count my gosh. Oh, I know exactly what one
you're talking about. And I have disappointed you, Maddie. I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, it's targeted.
Speaker 1: But I know you guys. You guys don't disappoint you.
Speaker 3: Guys are just fine. I didn't see any of them, sorry, Maddie. No,
I think I caught them all. I don't know. I
guess we'll see when we go through the list.
Speaker 1: Lead us in, lead us in.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start pretty pretty hot and heavy here. I
I think The Gorge is a truly terrible trailer. I
really really like the two leads of this film. On
your Taylor jor of course, you know, shouts out on
your army.
Speaker 2: Black hair, black hair on you too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we got Assassin, we get her playing chess,
the Queen's Gambits, Come yea Carol back, and this trailer.
I just felt like I was really, really, really into
the opening of this trailer, and the more it went on,
I'm just like, man, I'm not gonna see this unless
unless it's really positive buzz. I just really didn't like
what they were said enough with just the two of
them in the gorge. I didn't like how we were
going through I'm not gonna say we're going through different seasons,
but it seems like they're there a very long time,
but then there's.
Speaker 1: Also five days.
Speaker 3: But then it also goes to them just it seems
like when they're doing their introduction to like what they're
doing at the gorge, by the time like later on
the trailer, like actions going on, it seems like it's
the exact same time. I don't know, there's just a
lot of different what I felt were just just pacing
issues maybe with what this trailer was like. I felt
like they were subtle with their approach and introducing to
what it is, and then it's just like and this
is happening, This is happening, this is happening, and then
it just and then we actually see them like in
the go.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I think this trailer didn't know if it
wanted to be really subtle or show a lot, and
it just kind of gave us everything. And I wasn't
really a fan of just I don't even know if
it was music, but whatever the sound was that was
going on, I just didn't really like this trailer. And
I will say I guess I'm gonna follow us up
with a question for you guys. I have really been
disappointed lately with not big screen action movie releases, and
that is specifically for like streaming properties. It all kind
of started with a Triple Frontier. I got extremely excited
for that movie. Go check out me and Travis did
a review for that movie whenever it came out, years
upon years ago. But that had a major like cast
in it that I was really excited for. I really
liked the trailer and it was just very mid at best,
like it was very forgettable film. The gray Man that
came out there was the Russo's project, I believe with
cret No, it wasn't Chris Evans, it was the Hot
ghoss Ryan Gossling himself extremely flat. Like I just feel
like all these these action movie streaming projects, there's probably
one that I'm forgetting or maybe I haven't seen that
is really phenomenal. It's just in my history, I feel
like I've really gone down in hype levels on a
streaming service action movie release. And maybe that's not justified
and very unfair. But yeah, I like and I've seen
amazing streaming like like whether it's Netflix original movies, but
just specifically action movies. There's just something that I feel
like is missing when I've been seeing them. And of
course that's like an over big dark cloud over me.
When I'm just watching this, I see the Apple Plus
logo on it, it's just like, oh man, I like
these actors, but just I'm not liking this trailer. And honestly,
it's just the tarot cards are telling me that maybe
this isn't gonna be a very special project. I would
love to be wrong, but I'm not gonna seek this
out until i hear some very very positive praise and
I'm gonna put my bet down. I don't think I'm
gonna be getting that, and you know, I'll be eating
my words if i'm if I'm wrong. But what do
you guys think about this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think it really interesting point you made there of
just like the action streaming movies, and like, is that
the place for these? Is that kind of what we're
looking for here? It's funny watching this trailer. I wasn't
sure and I wasn't even sure until you confirmed it
there whether this was a television show or a movie,
because whatever. It's like Apple, It's like, I don't know,
is this is this movie show? Who knows what's going
on here? But I think we get to your point
of like they really showed a lot here. It feels like,
oh yeah, this is more of like a movie trailer
where they kind of show you, like just a bit
towards the end of AC two, maybe even Act three
where they actually go down to the gorge there.
Speaker 2: I think you make a great point there.
Speaker 4: I think I'm I'm a lot less negative on it
than you, but I do think it definitely. Yes, it
does get a bit worse, but I think it was
more just like it was showing way too much by
the end of it.
Speaker 2: I think you didn't need to show anything in the gorge.
I think for me to be sold.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know, maybe that's like a bad
Maybe it's like maybe they're not in their towers for
as long as I want them to be. I feel
like that to me seems like a really fun concept
for a movie. These two solitary characters in their towers,
living their individual lives. Sol the getting intertwined with each other.
But then like also still for like a year, you know,
just being on their own in here, and then like
an inciting event forces them down to like actually do something.
It's got like a little bit of like Firewatch and
the tower there and like talking on a radio and
just like communicating in minor ways.
Speaker 2: And I think it's really cool.
Speaker 4: I like, I like the cast, like the two main
leads there, I think is really fun. I do think
in terms of like the action movie side of it,
like one, I think that if you look at like
the writers and directors of this, it makes a lot
of sense. Like Scott Derrickson is the director. He here,
of course you did the first Doctor Strange and then
he did one of the uh or he was supposed
to do Jurassic Park, right Taylor or Jurassic World or
something like he didn't end up doing it, Yes, I think,
is that great? Or did he end up doing it?
Speaker 1: Actually? So No, he never hit his is not on
any of those kinds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so and then and then the writer I was
just looking this up, like his last movie was Fast
X and then like the Tomorrow War, twenty four Hours
to Live Deadfault, which all just looked like very like
generic action movies, and one of them, like the trailer
popped up in nine dB and there's like weird creatures
that look like the creatures in this tree trailer, you know,
popping up, and so it feels like, Okay, maybe the
tone of this is gonna be less like slow burn
character work and more fun action movie. And like even
the tones seemed a little silly to me at times,
which felt a little bit opposite to the seriousness these
other times. But even like, you know, Miles Teller like
gets his telescope out and he looks over at on you,
and of course he like just looks at her ass
real quick, and then she like turns around and looks
so but it's like they're so far away. How did
she like know that he was looking at her. It's
like a really goofy scene, you know. But I feel
like that's kind of what this movie is going for
to some extent. So I don't know, I am really
intrigued by the basic concept. I think that this seems
like a movie where like way through act two into
Act three, I'm gonna be like really uninterested in what
they do there. Generic fighting demons in a in a hole,
but I feel like the first section seems like it
could be really interesting, especially with these two cast in
this particular role, so.
Speaker 2: I definitely want to check this one out.
Speaker 4: I did we get a release date in this trailer
for the movie or is that still unknown?
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing one.
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five February apparently, so I I know I'm
gonna be subscribed again Apple TV when Severn Season two
comes out, which I think is pretty soon, I think,
so I don't know. If I'm subscribed, I definitely would
probably check this movie out, so maybe I'll share my
thoughts and know what we've been watching sequence in a
future Geek First News episode.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm also sigourny weavers in here, probably not for very long,
but like, yeah, I'm down. I like I like this cast,
so I could see myself checking this one out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm pretty excited. After seeing that poster and
after seeing this trailer, I think, Okay, this is maybe
not exactly what I was expecting, but I'm still excited
to watch this and see what we're dealing with here.
I think there's there's an interesting story narrative here. I hope.
But the concept behind having of these two separate towers
side with no uh, you're not allowed to communicate with
each other. I feel like, man, this is just weird.
If they wanted to keep these things down there, they
can have a much more efficient method of doing it
if you have like multiple crews here on rotation and
communicating from one side of the wall to the other
side of the wall. It's just a little weird. But
I'm I need to see the movie first to fully
understand that. I feel like what you were talking about, Dylan,
where he's like just scoping out like her butt real quick.
I feel like you're gonna get a scene where she's
gonna be like slowly taking her shirt off, like off
off of her shoulder, and she's.
Speaker 4: Seems like, I don't know if you, oh yeah, came
in that, but it seems like we're going down that
kind of sex the.
Speaker 2: Uh sexy spy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And while they're doing that, the monsters are escaping
from their.
Speaker 2: Nearby towns. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, but I mean, I'm always down for a good
monster movie, and so we'll see what this one entails.
It releasing in February. Yeah, I'm I'm interested. I haven't
had Apple TV for a while, so I'm probably gonna
I'll renew it to specifically watch this, along with a
few other shows as well. I know you mentioned Shrinking Den.
A few other people have been recommending that to me
as well, So yeah.
Speaker 2: Season two is kind of drag. So I watched season
one and then close it out.
Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, no, I'm uh, I'm adding this to
my watch list for sure.
Speaker 3: So that'd be a fun bread and Butter topic of
just like great one season shows, you know, like they
don't end after one season, but they should have really
really awful. I remember Travis mentioning Altered Carbon. I don't
know if that was good for multiple seasons, but I
remember I'm saying it was really good season one and
then not so much after that. And I feel like
there's many of those actually, like even I never saw it,
but I heard West World is phenomenal for a little
while and then it's not.
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe I'll have to put that in the
It is in my bread Butter notes now.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, there you go. It's solid. You guys wanna
go next? I pitched one, you pitched it one?
Speaker 4: Well, I want to talk to you guys a little
bit about twenty eight we're at years now, right, Yeah,
twenty eight years later. So I have not seen either
of these two movies leading up to it, but it
seems like, my jam, it's like kind of virus outbreak
movie zombie situation.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Have you guys seen the first two movies or either
either of them?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm pretty sure I've seen one of them. I
don't know which one it is, though, And it's funny
because going into this, I think I was thinking of
like Thirty Days of Night or something. Is that the
one when they're in Alaska?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Taylor and Okay, I definitely mixed up those movies.
Speaker 2: Taylor is so good at these genre of movies.
Speaker 1: Are all Thirty Days of Night. It's two days after
twenty eight days later. I'm kidding this guy.
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 3: You had me you have on the hook. I was
nippling like a little fish.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I guess my question on this is like,
what are what is the gena saqu What is the
sauce of this as like a zombie movie type thing?
Speaker 2: Is it like really good characters? Is really good just action?
Is it really scary? Is it really good?
Speaker 4: Atmosphere, like, why are these movies interesting?
Speaker 2: Why are we getting a trilogy of them?
Speaker 4: What's like the special sauce for this, as like as
where it fits in the genre.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: For me, I find that these movies are really good
at feeling. There's a lot of human emotion in this
and that first one, particular, twenty eight days later, that
one is definitely like the I put that over the
over the second one to some degree, but it's it's
great because it just feels hopeless at times, and then
there are there's not many, but the odd moment where
it just feel you feel hope, and you just feel
like all this energy emanating from these characters, and they
do a really good job of just kind of having
their stories develop and progress and just dealing with so
many tribulative things that aren't necessarily all. I mean, of course,
zombies are the root cause of a lot of these problems,
but the things that happen in between the zombies, where
it's other people that are bad and just the world
falling apart, all these different things, it's it's pretty nuts.
And then the concept of the zombies themselves, I think
that's what that's what makes it interesting when we get
into this trailer because in the first two films it's
different from regular zombies, and I think that that's really
cool how they tackle it where it's it's I don't
know if I don't necessarily want to spoil that, because
I hope you guys go through and I would love.
Speaker 3: To do it.
Speaker 2: I would love to do a retro.
Speaker 3: I can't remember if we pen that already, but yeah,
I'm game as well.
Speaker 4: If it hasn't been pen should we officially penant sign
bread and Butter notes, I mean the contract right now?
Speaker 1: There go so non we wrote the drivers, but in
a non spoiler way. The thing that makes these different
from other zombies is that these are living people that
are infected with a virus. But they'll die eventually, like
if there's no food or anything like that, they'll die
because they're not undead like a zombie is, which is
very interesting. So you're dealing with something that after a
few weeks of just like starvation, it's just gonna collapse
and die, which changes the dynamic, and that creates a
very interesting scenario and narrative between the first film and
the second film. Whereas here and you can quote them
on the movie poster, they're talking about how things have evolved, YadA, YadA, YadA.
So I'm thinking with this, you're gonna be getting probably
like class type zombies, something a little bit more smarter,
something that's gonna be leading. Because there's several shots in
this trailer that show what looks like your standard rage
virus infected moving around and then one of these things
kind of standing there doing something sinister, and it looks
like there is a reoccurring one going up through through
this trailer. But yeah, I think you're just gonna be
dealing with some like smarter zombie.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like to some extent too, you
would think that naturally if like a ton of the earth,
like is it a worldwide epidemic situation or is it
just like in the.
Speaker 1: The first one is just in England and the second
one just in England.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know, okay, yeah, so I I guess yeah,
there's an element too over like you would think if
these things have like a regular lifespan and they're you know,
they don't have the means to like make a house
and put food in a fridge. They kind of just
need to like scrounch to survive that they would just
like a lot of them would die out over the
course of twenty eight years, Like that's a lot longer
a period of time, but it seems like they're still thriving.
There's still a shit ton of them in this movie.
So whether that's an evolution thing or it's just spread
to a different location.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: But I think this trailer was was really interesting and
really good, had a very.
Speaker 2: Specific mood to it.
Speaker 4: I think the voiceover the lady was doing the voiceover
for it, which is kind of like a bit of
a song and kind of just like talking through things.
It was like really cool and atmospheric and interesting. So
I don't know, I'm I'm really intrigued by this. I
don't think it was necessarily my favorite trailer, but I
think just like the concept. I it may be a
bit of a gimmick, but I love that it's like
twenty eight days and then twenty eight weeks and twenty
eight years, and like it's not exactly twenty eight years.
Speaker 2: After the first one. I don't think, right, But I
don't know.
Speaker 3: I just think that's a very like thirty years, like,
so it's pretty close.
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Actually, that's that's really see.
Speaker 4: I just think that's so fun and interesting from like
a movie s downpoint. It feels not as gimmicky as
like other legacy sequels we've got recently for some reason,
even though it is a bit of that same thing.
But I'm I'm really intrigued by this general concept.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, I'm excited to jump into this and the
way that like Evil Dead was a complete mystery to me,
and then we did the retro and it was the
first time I watched those movies. And then now I've
been watching these new ones as they're coming out.
Speaker 2: I think there was even announcement.
Speaker 4: Today of like another one is officially confirmed, so that's
pretty cool. I don't know if we had that on
our notes, but yeah, I think this is gonna be
a similar space for me, and I'm excited to check
this one off the list because I'll love a good zombie,
even if they're a bit different, as you said, Taylor,
in terms of their their stats, they're a little bit
different than what we've seen before, but I think that's
a really cool idea, so hopefully still have a bit
of that uniqueness, even if they have to come up
with a story reason why they're alive all these years later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm very excited for this. I'm this is
one where I'm not just excited for the movie. I'm
excited for the retro. Like I'm excited for this whole adventure.
We're going to be going on, these twenty eight adventures
that we're gonna be doing. And I it's funny, I'm
very similar to you, Dylan, where Like I'm pretty sure
I have seen twenty eight days Later or weeks I
can't remember. You know, I'll find that out when we
go into it. Because Killian Murphy is in. He's not
in all of them, right, is he just in the original?
Speaker 1: Just in the original?
Speaker 3: Okay, because I think I remember him, so maybe I've
only seen the original.
Speaker 1: The second one has a Hawkeye in it.
Speaker 3: Jeremy Renner one of our patrons. Yeah, out of yeah,
Jeremy Renner. But no, I'm I I'm The reason why
I said I agree with you, Dylan is I'm excited
to get into this universe. But I don't think this
was really a great trailer, Like, honestly, I don't. I
don't know maybe maybe maybe it is a good tradler
because it didn't show a whole lot. You know, I
was bringing up my grievances with that with the gorge,
but I I'd like the the like just the setting.
I guess it's funny you mentioned just like the zombie atmosphere.
This felt like product Zomboid the movie.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get in there with you, Dylan
and then play some ZOMBOI and I've been going pretty hard.
But yeah, no, it very much reminded me of that,
and that's the greatest zombie game ever made, So I'm excited.
Speaker 2: For That's a big claim. Yeah, that's a big claim.
Speaker 4: And when we talk about on sidequest, we will have
to do a list of the zombie games because that's
a big claim.
Speaker 1: Pennett.
Speaker 3: Pennett put it in the in the documents. Yeah sign no.
I Yeah, so I I liked the setting that was
set there, but like beyond that, I didn't. I wasn't
loving everything I was seeing. But I'm just intrigued by
this film and what it is really really like the
cast that that they have in here, like Jody Comer,
of course, she's fantastic, Big Ray Fines love that guy
so and then ATJ can't forget about a TJ R.
Crave in the Hunter. The guy that sold already killed
Sony Universe. You know you put the nail on the coffin.
Uh definitely wasn't his fault. But no, Yeah, I'm I'm
very much looking forward to this. And although I didn't
like this trailer, I don't really need a trailer. I'm
intrigued enough to see this project, so yeah, they sold me.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, guys this, are you gonna go
into that pitch black dark tunnel with only your amasing
little headlamp on and you have a gun, you have
your soul rifle?
Speaker 2: I mean, what's that steak here? You know?
Speaker 4: It is like is like the cure too, is like
the medicine that I need on the other side of
this tunnel.
Speaker 2: And that's the only way to get there. Because if my.
Speaker 1: Commander is telling me that I'm I'm calling bullshit. I
don't think it's in that tunnel. If it is, I'm
going to get a bigger head lamp. I ain't we.
Speaker 4: Yeah that sounds fair, but how many lights and flashlights
and batteries and things do we still have? Twenty eight
years later, like maybe you just don't have the tools,
you know.
Speaker 3: That's a fair point. Yeah, and maybe the zombies the
dark too, I'm not sure, extremely dependent on the situation,
the context of everything that's going on, you know, like
family member of mine is in there and I have
to go save them. Maybe, but again my history playing
zombie games, don't do that. It's not worth it. Noditions
for zombie games tell me to go in there, you know,
specifically Dying Light, and I usually just skip those missions
because I just don't want to do it because they're
scary and I'll wait till them. Sure, these guys tried,
but yeah, they can't skip their main quests that they're on.
Uh here, but speaking of randomly thought, if you're played
Dying Light too, Taylor, you and I were king a
buzzing about it when it released. It's now officially on
the PlayStation catalog, so I will be touching it at
some point. I'm kind of excited about that. But I
was just I can't remember if you grip the controller
with some Dying like too.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't grip that controller, unfortunately, But if you
persuade me when you play it, if there's.
Speaker 3: Hey, if there's cross play. I know there's multiplayer the
first game out ill there good, No, I'm not going
in that tunnel.
Speaker 4: That a floodlight was the truly terrible trailer The Gorge
Or is there another trailer that you hate even more
than the Gorge?
Speaker 3: No, it was the Gorge. I wanted to start either
super positive or super negative, and we got the super
negative out of the way. Can I go super positive here?
Speaker 2: Please do it?
Speaker 3: The brutalist ladies and gentlemen. I was so blown away
by this trailer, and I think it's I think it's
because I don't know. It's kind of a funny thing
where I'm always just like shipping over Oscar movies. I'm like,
they're so boring and like they're just I get they're
well made, but you know, I kind of talked about
that on my September five review, But man, coming off
Sptember five, I'm like, fuck, this is a well made movie,
and seeing this trailer, I'm like, this looks like it's
gonna be a fucking Oscar.
Speaker 5: Movie, and it looks like it's gonna be extremely well
this new era of a I'm excited for this. I
loved this trailer so much, and it's really not a
type of genre that I would normally be like focusing
on Adrian.
Speaker 3: Brody, Yeah, I believe he's an Oscar winner with the Pianist,
which it's kind of funny, similar type of name, uh
to the Brutalist. My favorite appearance by him is in
the Great King Kong movie.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you, guys, what's your what's the
first thing you think of when you think of Adrian Voter?
Speaker 2: For me, it's still King Kong all these.
Speaker 3: Years, it's King Kong. A little bit of Tyler Saras,
I don't know, there's some Tyler Sarahs and a what
did you say?
Speaker 2: Taylor?
Speaker 1: Predators?
Speaker 3: Oh, Predators, that's another good one there. You definitely not
like his highest accolade movies, I would say, but I
enjoy I enjoy those ones the most. But yeah, no,
I was really really intrigued by everything in here. I'm
not even like a guy Piers fan. I'm pretty much
disliked here, I think so. I think so like like
Memento that had a lot of buzz and stuff about it,
I didn't really like the movie, and I really just
didn't like him in that role, you know, like the
big like text that came that comes on the trailer.
It's like, guys, wow, let me try it again. Guy
Pierce's best performance of his career. And I'm like, man,
maybe this is gonna win me over because I am
kind of liking what I'm seeing from his character in
this trailer. He's seems like a piece of shit. But
this just looks like such a such a like dark telling,
I guess of I don't even want to say a
dark telling, because it seems like there's some nice hopefulness
in there, but just maybe like a focus on like
a darker period of specifically just the idea of a
an immigrant going to America and just the era that
they're that they're covering, and it just feels like an
epic and not in the sense of like a big
sci fi or fantasy epic. It just seems like a
historical epic and not like a big war movie or
anything like like. It just seems something very special and yeah, movie,
I'd never heard it before, but after seeing this trailer,
I got to see this in theaters. This looks so amazing,
and I'm expecting like a three hour heavy watch, you know,
it's kind of on like an emotion minutes.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's yeh, pretty long, that's I mean, less.
Speaker 3: Than I was expecting. I don't know. I when I
saw the trailer just felt like a two forty minimum,
so kind of like that too.
Speaker 2: Well, it's two hundred and fifteen minutes. What does that transfit?
Speaker 3: Oh geez, okay, sorry, I never misheard that at at
least five hours, that's my mess, that's wrong. Yeah, what
you got for us, Taylor to.
Speaker 1: Uh, two hundred and fifteen minutes is what you said, Dylan. Yes,
I'm getting three and a half hours. So that's kind
of where was see.
Speaker 4: So there you go trailers on the top of that,
and you're there for four hours at that point. Yeah, crazy,
don't get a soda for that one.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to take a leak at some point.
Speaker 3: I probably will. I did that for Endgame. I'm pretty
pretty notorious for doing that for three hour movies. But
h yeah, get the catheter. At least we'll see see
what I.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I call them, Yeah, yeah, I I think this
is a very solid trailer as well. Looks very very
emotional and looks like I mean, to some extent, looks
like a story we've seen before. But I think what
you're to your point, like, it's just a well made trailer.
Editing looks really good, the visuals of it, not that
it's doing some crazy huge bomb basket special effects, but
just like what it's doing seems really good. It seems
to have some great performances there. I'm excited to see
Felicity Jones in this because I feel like I haven't
really seen her in much beyond the Star Wars stuff,
and I just want to see more of her acting
and see what she can do. And this feels like
a movie where she could be just acting a whole lot,
doing a bunch of really interesting stuff. So yeah, I
don't I don't know if I'm gonna be there in the
theater with you, especially if it's that freaking long, Holy
f But I could see myself checking this one out
as well, So yeah, I think it was a very
very solid trailer for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a good trailer and it's a
very interesting story, but I don't think I'm gonna be
seeing it in theaters, and after hearing that run time,
I think this is gonna be a home movie for me.
But you might get that another Oscar Solo review.
Speaker 2: From you Go three hour long Sololy cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see what I can cook up? Maybe Travis will
be there with me. We'll see. I know, I know,
you know. Time is limited on his in his veins.
So maybe A three and a half.
Speaker 4: Comes out of retirement to review the brew list. Yeah, no, retirement, hiatus.
Speaker 2: I should say, when when.
Speaker 1: Does that movie release? I can't remember.
Speaker 4: It's one of those Oscar Oscar movies. I feel like,
kind of like poor things just gonna randomly be out
really late, close to the Oscars.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just December twentieth, twenty twenty four. Oh shit,
Oh yeah, And then the film will be released in
the United Kingdom January twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, by Universal.
So is it delayed? I don't know, it's weird, just
it is scheduled to be released on December twentieth. The
film will be released in United Kingdom on Chenerre twenty four.
So it seems like the initial idea was the twentieth
and that's now it's actually being released anyway. But yeah, no,
it's run time three hours and thirty five minutes. Look
at this budget though, six to ten million dollars for
the budget of this film, and look how good that
trailer looked.
Speaker 1: Like, goddamn, you can have a Godzilla pop up on
this and it fit the budget.
Speaker 3: You could. Yeah, but not Craven, not the Sony movies,
not any Sony movie that's been released.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, I I'll tell you this snow white, not my
uh not my cup of tea. Here not a great trailer,
and I don't even feel like being mean to it.
I just that's where I'm gonna leave it. Do you
guys any even interest in this one?
Speaker 3: Well said?
Speaker 2: I tried to say as little as possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have any interest in this, and I
never did, even even like when it was first initially announced.
I'm pretty I'm not gonna say completely just against the
idea of doing these live action Disney remakes, but I've
just there hasn't been one that's really enticed me. Like
How to Train Your Dragon is the closest one, but
that's also not a Disney project, right that streamworks. But
for me, I think, especially seeing this trailer, just because
I haven't been really focusing much on the news around this,
I've been seeing just people's opinions on it. Most of
them have been negative, and I'm not sure if that's
just because people are outraged for the idea of like
a character, especially in like a live action Disney remake.
People seem to just get up in arms anytime a
character is not white and pasty like me, you know,
like like anytime a character is not like just straight
up Caucasian, people seem to be extremely outraged and so
like coming into it, I'm like, is this like a
justifies outrage or is it just like everything that they've
seen for this movie the test screens, is it really
that bad? And honestly, when I watch this trailer, I
think it is getting maybe more flack than it deserves.
Like I don't think this is that atrocious of a
trailer by any means. I somewhat liked what I saw
in certain aspects, you know, I'll go so far as
to say that, But I'm like, I'm not even a
big snow white fan to begin with, like the original
Disney project, Like I just definitely not a Disney princess
or story that I really was drawn to as a kid.
So yeah, I'm not interested in this for very varied reasons.
But I don't think this is as bad as people
are really setting it out to be. I'm curious what
it's gonna do number wise, because you know, sometimes these
live action Disney movies just bust a big billion dollars
numb or something out of the yin Yang. I think
the ones. Has there been multiple I have done that?
Or is it just Lion King? I know I'm kind
of throwing you guys on the spot there, but just
in my mind, I feel like it's just kind of
Lion King that's hit that big mark, the one that
I can think of. Yeah, yeah, but so like it's
got potential there, but I don't think the Lion King
really had a lot of negative buzz going into it,
Like maybe maybe it did maybe second or.
Speaker 2: One of the early well.
Speaker 3: Right, that was an earlier one.
Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast made one point two million worldwide
a million two mm hmm do bastically five hundred million? Sorry,
one point two billion, Okay, that's.
Speaker 4: A better million is like, yikes, the budget of Brutalist
right there. Okay, so we got one point two billion,
that made a billion. That's insane, crazy, crazy, different time
at the box office. Absolutely, Emma Watson numbers, I guess
that'll do it for you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I'm not really gonna see this. I
don't think Mulan would have been another live action one
that I started watching and I just turned it off instantly.
I'm like, what the fuck is this? So that's my
quick mulanview.
Speaker 2: You seen this one in theaters, Taylor, you like these movies.
Speaker 1: You know what. I like these movies. But I feel
like this is a movie, or I should say, this
is rather an apple. I do not want to take
a bite out of. I just think that they've kind
of just been going downhill a little bit, like so
forth and so forth after every everyone, And I mean
that Cinderella one. I really liked the live action Cinderella.
I can't remember. I should have looked and see if
that was actually a billion dollars, But I like, I
like that one.
Speaker 3: Is that recent?
Speaker 1: That was one of the earlier ones around Beautying the
Beast time and Beauty the Beast. I like that one
in live action. That was a lot of fun. Yeah.
Then Beauty Beast was twenty seventeen. Okay, that had Rob
Stark in it as uh the Prince, Yeah, like an Icarus. Yeah,
what the hell?
Speaker 3: Cap It's in here on the bottom Carter, he.
Speaker 1: It's a great movie.
Speaker 2: I James, Yeah, James remember.
Speaker 1: So yeah. I just feel like they are just going
on this downwards jectory and Little Mermaid. While I enjoyed
some of the songs, Aladdin or Aladdin probably was Oh
was that a billion that? I feel like that came
out close to when the line King came out. Someone
fact checked that for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just checking right now. Cinderella's box office globally was
around the five hundred million mark, like, okay, all of
a sudden.
Speaker 1: That's about what a Little Mermaid had done. Five yeah.
Speaker 3: Aladdin, Yeah, Aladdin was over a billion.
Speaker 1: Over billion, okay, yeah, Aladdin. I freaking love that live
action movie. That was great. So here we are you
have Little Mermaid, which it was, It was good. I
love getting the like those original songs. And then Melissa
McCarthy as Ursula was fantastic. And I think Ali Berry
as Ariel she did grace. She's got an amazing voice
for those singing songs and whatnot. So I enjoyed that
a lot. But the thing that I have, it's just
my biggest con with these adaptations is they try to
do their own original songs, And that's my biggest comment
with Aladdin, But I just don't like when they do
a new song or something like that and they throw
it in there. It just really pulls me out.
Speaker 3: And so it's also never the good song out of
those movies, right like the movies are sorry. The songs
that you enjoy out of the live actually remakes are
never the new original ones. It's always like a whole
new world from the case of Aladdin, right like like
the ones that they just are recapturing. So yeah, I
agree with you. I feel like they're.
Speaker 1: Usually duds, and it seems like he's.
Speaker 3: To the composers and the people that work on it,
you know.
Speaker 2: But it feels like that in comparison, it seems.
Speaker 1: Like they're going to be doing exactly the same thing
with snow White, because in the trailer there was a
couple moments where it seems like, oh, it's another original song, Okay,
here we go. And the downside is just I'm not
a big fan of this character kind of going back
and trying to like fight the evil queen and like, oh,
I'm here with the people. We're gonna take back our kingdom.
Yeah yeah, yea da I I don't need to see that.
That's just filler for me for like half an hour
of on screen stuff, Like I just want to see
her just with the dwarfs doing her thing, and then
you know, Evil Queen with Gal Gadot looks fantastic as
the Evil Queen. I know people are kind of mocking
her with the Batman Keaton neck Batman cowel, but I
think that she looks fantastic.
Speaker 3: Like her like waking up upside down.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like her turning her head and she has
to turn her whole body to like move her head
like it's really funny. People have pointed that out. So yeah,
I just think though that I this movie is probably
not gonna do too well, and.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring this up little more. I made
box office, so apparently worldwide it grossed over five hundred
and sixty nine million dollars. Is that higher lower than
you would have expected for Little Mermaid? Because for me,
that's much higher. Actually, I thought there was a lot
of negative just talk it's lower for you.
Speaker 1: I thought it would do higher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was trying to just find a
couple other ones. I brought the Dumbo.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's probably two to three hundred, three.
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty three million worldwide. The budget was one
seventy You know, it's not like it's not like it
doubled it, but at least it's not breaking even. I
feel like that was maybe the least talked about one,
So those numbers don't surprise me too much. But yeah,
for Little Mermaid, I feel like I was expected to
be a little bit lower just because, Yeah, I guess
just talk around my social circles. Not a lot of
people were interested in it. But I agree with you.
When I did eventually see that on Disney, I liked
it more than I thought. Like I liked Melissa McCarthy
as as Ursula. I hated that they didn't have the
dog though, right.
Speaker 1: I was just trying remember if they had the dog
or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that character from the from the original.
Speaker 1: And they asked the French chef to Louis, those bastards.
I love that French chef. But this whole singing like
song thing, that's something I was super gung hole for
and they axed it. I don't know why. Maybe it's
politically incorrect. I don't care, Like I was, I'm French
and the guy was cooking in the kitchen, singing so good.
I can't believe they took it out.
Speaker 2: I'm officially gone off.
Speaker 3: I was not expecting that that was nice.
Speaker 1: Where to next?
Speaker 2: There's nowhere left to go but.
Speaker 1: Take us there.
Speaker 2: I will take us there.
Speaker 4: I don't really like what If that much in this
trailer didn't really do much to change my mind on that.
Speaker 2: There are some interesting things with this, though.
Speaker 4: One is like, I feel like half this trailer's just
shots from the first two seasons, and they're I mean
half the trailers like Rewatch season one and two and
get Ready for Season three. And I think the weirdest
thing at all in total for me is just that
they're really pitching this is like this is the conclusion
of a trilogy of what If, which I feel like
no TV show ever really frames it that way. And
I don't know, maybe they're just trying to make this
seem like a bigger deal than it is. But to me,
I don't really feel like there were some narrative through
lines from what If.
Speaker 2: But I didn't really feel.
Speaker 4: Like we were building towards this big third act trilogy
season thing, So I don't know, it's probably just like
marketing speak and trying to get people interested in this.
But I also feel like this may be a risky
route for people who haven't watched the other seasons. I
feel like the best way to go is like, here's
some weird, interesting, cool concept, and if you're a Marvel fan,
you want to see what that is. I don't think
people really care about the overall through line, like the
diehard fans, sure, but there are gonna be there, so
I don't know. It just seems like a weird trailer
for me in that way, and I feel like it
was mostly just like very quick little clips of like, oh,
that's an interesting thing, but I'm not really getting an
idea of like what any of these episodes are gonna be,
or like is this gonna be one long season that's
building towards this finale. It's actually more of a connected
season than the other ones. I don't know, So I left.
I'm left a little confused. Where there are a couple
of highlights, like I mean, I saw my Boe Mysterio
in there, and I like that is Jake jillen All
coming back absolutely not to voice that character, but I'm
I'm I'm excited to see Mysterio storm Rock in that
suit and having like me on near in one scene
like that seems really cool.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what's going on there.
Speaker 4: And then like it's kind of goofy, but like the
Avenger Assemble thing and they have like a huge mech
Hiju bought. That's like all I guess all the Avengers
are like you know, Exodia in it, and they're like,
I'm controlling the leg I'm controlling the arm, I'm controlling
the laser beam. So it seems like goofy and silly,
but I you know, I'll watch this because I watch
all MC things except for I haven't seen the rest
of Agatha yet, but I'm not really that excited for it, unfortunately.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair. Yeah, this trailer really didn't do too
much over kind of what I've already set up. I
do think this is gonna be the most I want
to say, like linear, I guess see you shared all
the other ones, like yeah, like the ones that it's
really is setting up to the finale kind of what
you're speculating about there, Dylan, I do think that it's
gonna be the case, just because we're setting up for
the finale, like we don't really have time to mess
around with some random adventure that doesn't it isn't connected
to anything because they've already been kind of setting up
those those seeds, And yeah, I don't think this it's
funny because this is like trailer number two. It felt
like trailer like one point five, you know, or like
like I didn't feel like I got a whole lot
more than what I've already seen. I liked what I saw.
I do like what if and I like these just
what if scenarios that we have. Yeah, like the Vultron
Assemble thing that they have there that that I'm looking
forward to that. So everything I saw I did like,
But it was just it wasn't like a really engaging
trader in the sense of like, man, this sold me
on the show, Like, no, I'm already gonna be there,
like I was there last year. You know. I think
they're still doing the daily releases how they did last year,
like around Christmas starting on maybe the twentieth. I believe
when we were talking about the first trailer that it
was the case. But yeah, then we'll confirm there. But yeah,
I'm gonna be there. I'm liking what I'm seeing, But
in terms of trailers, you know, just judging it as
a trailer, you're right, daily releases as well as well
as last season. Yeah, and starting when was that December tenth?
The twenty second? Okay, Tuesday, No, that's that's Sunday. I
can't remember. I think Christmas on a Wednesday.
Speaker 1: It's Christmas Wednesday. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3: That is a Sunday, Sunday Sunday.
Speaker 1: He's ready.
Speaker 3: Or three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to this. I mean, it's
the close out, and the trailer got me pumped. But
I mean, you guys have already said I didn't feel
like there was anything really major new that was really
being feature here that we haven't seen or can kind
of anticipate going in, like obviously with Storm the Goddess
of Thunder and that sort of stuff, so we know
certain things are going to be happening and some certain storylines.
But that makes I'm excited. I like the what ifs
and I like what we're getting. Uh, it'll be cool
to see how this is going to kind of close
off and tie together, especially after we have some reoccurring
characters that we have seen before, and just what's gonna
happen with the Watcher here and ultimately what will be
the Watcher's fate. I'd love to see him kind of
have a good send off and maybe even make an
appearance in the actual MCU at some point, which I mean,
he's appeared in X Men the Animated, and I feel
like maybe we got like a glimpse in of something
in Deadpool Wolverine. Maybe I'm just imagined.
Speaker 2: That's just your fan at it. I think that that is.
Speaker 1: It probably is my fan at.
Speaker 3: Its X Men, right, X Men ninety seven is what
it was?
Speaker 1: That was X Men ninety seven. Yeah, gosh, I don't
have those.
Speaker 2: I know, I was looking for the one.
Speaker 3: I think it was Howkeye right?
Speaker 1: You you made a bunch it was, Yeah, Travis probably
just deleted them all. Sh It was like in the
urinal and he's like in the dinner.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have to make some more of that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah, No, I'm looking forward to it. In
terms of ranking, I would probably go I go twenty
eight years later as my number one. I'd go what
if season three? Number two? And that's more or less
because it's my anticipation and excitement more so than the
trailer that would go gorge brutalist and then snow White.
Speaker 4: I have a similar similar ranking. I'm gonna go twenty
eight weeks number one, gorge, number two, brutalist, number three,
what if season three, number four, and snow White, like
way way down there at the very at the very
bottom of that gorge of the gorge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where Anya is. Yeah, I'm gonna go my number
one being the brutalist. That one really surprised me. Number two.
Let's go twenty eight years later.
Speaker 1: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I feel like my number one is such in a
different caliber. It's like, hey, the brutalist is my list.
And then if I have to shouts out to shouts
out to Maddie segs, you know, I gotta do the
classic Maddie question, so I will rank them. But still
it's pretty much just brutalist. Everything else pretty meh. But
for you, Maddie, I'm gonna go twenty eight years later.
Speaker 1: He's really thinking on it.
Speaker 4: He's been scratching that nog and trying to come up
with some answers. Yeah, it's hard to rank these the
stakes are so high.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was like talking for so long too,
and I realized I was just frozen, like, oh, we.
Speaker 2: Heard you put twenty eight years later at number two.
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect. And then my internet must have crapped out
because of what I said. I said snow white.
Speaker 4: Next, Oh yeah, that's why you're trying to get canceled
by the internet.
Speaker 3: And then what if?
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: The gorge at the bottom of the gorge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, goddamn, truly terrible trailer. Very different ranking than me
and Taylor. I respect it, though very different.
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