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<v Speaker 1>Welcome friends, it's come podcast podcasting time.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut Jacky again, Bryan.

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<v Speaker 3>They're talking to mob mom. Now back, Welcome to Movie Film.

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<v Speaker 3>It's episode three thirty seven. I'm Zaki, you son, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>here with Brian Hall. Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going, Zachi?

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<v Speaker 3>It is going? What's happening? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>This time last week you and I were hanging.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, hanging out, hanging out doing nothing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you came down to visit me in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>and we had a grand ole time just hanging out,

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<v Speaker 2>just literally chilling on the couch and chat. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we chatted for hours and hours and hours and we

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<v Speaker 2>were laughing so hard. Like when you left, I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>felt that void because there was just so much laughter

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<v Speaker 2>all weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh it was the best.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the best. Yeah. When I got back on

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, where'd you go? Did you? I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, didn't go anywhere. She's like, did you meet anybody?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like not really, She's like, what'd you do? I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you know, we sat on the couch, drank coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>channel surfed and just shot the breeze. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you could have done that up here, And I was

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<v Speaker 3>like I could have, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's true, I mean, and you know, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple ideas of things we could do, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember it was Saturday morning and there was like something

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<v Speaker 2>we could possibly go to in the afternoon, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, you know, this is nice. Yeah, And for

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<v Speaker 2>all the things we were watching, I feel like it

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<v Speaker 2>was really fun. It like inspired conversations and then there

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<v Speaker 2>were so many riffs. We were just riffing on everything

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<v Speaker 2>we were looking at and it was I was having

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest time.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so much fun. Yeah, I should say you

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<v Speaker 3>finally watched the Tarzan movie. I was telling you about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes Yes, with the Alexander scarsguard Margot Robbie, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was exactly like you said. I mean, it was the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect Saturday afternoon T and T movie, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>which is maybe doesn't sound like the biggest ringing endorsement,

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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes you're just in the mood for something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, when a movie is in theaters, there

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<v Speaker 3>is sort of a higher barrier to entry in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of like do I want to justify the trip and

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<v Speaker 3>I and I would have said, you know, not for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that that movie, but it is totally hey,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just put something on. And it was that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a you know, yeah, scratches a certain itch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was interesting because it starts not with the

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<v Speaker 2>like the origins of Tarzan, like he already is Tarzan

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<v Speaker 2>and the world knows who he is, which I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then he.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets involved in an adventure yeah, which you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>posted about that online and there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>folks who were like, you know, you know, they could

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<v Speaker 2>have done a sequel.

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<v Speaker 3>And whatever, and I I just want to say, is

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<v Speaker 3>something we talked about last time. I'm like, you know, maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>but you get this one and it's good. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine. You know, I don't need I don't need

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<v Speaker 3>five of them, you know, right, right, right right, Although

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<v Speaker 3>I mean famously, Tarzan has been a you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>sequel machine. I mean, they made so many Tarzan movies

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<v Speaker 3>it is kind of nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were telling me about them, because I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know the history of Tarzan very much, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised the types of stories he was involved in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, that's people don't realize that that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Edgar Rice Burroughs who created Tarzan. Of course, I also

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<v Speaker 3>created John Carter and and we think of John Carter

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, Warlord of Mars, and you know, Tarzan

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<v Speaker 3>is up you know, in Africa fighting poachers, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>not like Tarzan in the old pulp novels. He would

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fight lizard people, and he would go to

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<v Speaker 3>civilizations at the center of the earth and he you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was a fantasy character. And it's funny

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<v Speaker 3>how that really that in the majority of like multimedia

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<v Speaker 3>versions that hasn't really translated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had no idea. That was a surprise to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was one. There was a syndicated television show

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<v Speaker 3>in the late nineties. This is in the post Hercules

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<v Speaker 3>Legendary Journey's way where suddenly everyone and their cousin was

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<v Speaker 3>getting one of these like cheap o fantasy shows and

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<v Speaker 3>syndication out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I can see it vaguely in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>as you say that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was called Tarzan the Epic Adventures. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was awful, okay, I mean it made it made Hercules

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<v Speaker 3>the Legendary Journeys look like well, not the magnifst Eberson's

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<v Speaker 3>because that's a movie. It made it look like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Magnifist and Emerson's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Series whoa whoa Stop right there, stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Drilling, you've hit oil.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, this is funny that the guy who

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<v Speaker 3>played Tarzan in that in that syndicated show, it lasted

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<v Speaker 3>like I mean, let me put it this way, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is this is like a Chicago area reference. It

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<v Speaker 3>was not classy enough for w g N or or

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<v Speaker 3>God Help Us w p w R. It was on

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<v Speaker 3>It was on w c I U twenty six. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, and my tears down, but that's really saying something.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. The guy his name was Joe Lara, okay. And

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<v Speaker 3>after his Tarzan uh uh you know the period I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna say fame, but no, his period as Tarzan ended. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>He ended up uh marrying some woman who was like

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<v Speaker 3>like a wealthy dowager sort and and he he became

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<v Speaker 3>like a like an online personality, like a uh you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of these Joel Ostein types.

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<v Speaker 2>No kidding, yeah, yeah, this and it's like a story.

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<v Speaker 3>It really well. And then just recently, at least in

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<v Speaker 3>the last several years. I don't know exactly when he died,

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<v Speaker 3>in a single engine plane crash he was flying. He's

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<v Speaker 3>flying a plane and a crash just in the last

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<v Speaker 3>several years. Wow. And I only know about this because

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<v Speaker 3>my brother he's gotten like really into like cult documentaries

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and so he pinged me one day He's like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>who is the guy who played Tarzan in that show?

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<v Speaker 3>And right away I'm like, Joe Lara, Because that's the

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<v Speaker 3>ship that lives in my house.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know my children's birthdays. I would it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's a coin toss for a few of them. But

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll be goddamned if I don't know that Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Laura played Tarzan in Tarzan the Epic Adventures, which is

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<v Speaker 3>on a third tier. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, So anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>that's like a fascinating little little story there anyway, really is. Yeah. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>there's our there's Tarzan talk here on a movie film. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll revisit the segment in future weeks with all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of Tarzan trivia, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or maybe when we do the commentary for Legend Tarzan.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I would actually be totally down for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that would be a lot of fun. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have like early Margot Robbie in there, right

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<v Speaker 2>before she blew up, and I mean good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, I mean the legend of Tarzan came out

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<v Speaker 3>like two months before Suicide Squad, So I mean, if

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<v Speaker 3>we think of I mean, she was already on the

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<v Speaker 3>map because of you know, Will for Wall Street. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think for many people, Suicide Squad really set her

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<v Speaker 3>apart as like, oh, she's bringing something extra. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is like in the in just the run up to that. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And scars Guard is good in the movie as Tarzan.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's really good Tarzan.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I listened to the SmartLess podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't always listen. I usually listen when there's someone I'm

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<v Speaker 2>interested in.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Jason Bateman, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll Larnette Hayes podcast, and they had Margot Robbion recently,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was really fascinating to listen to because when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it, she has like just exploded, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily a mogul, but I mean she is like

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<v Speaker 2>not just like an actress that appears in like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of amazing things and does amazing work. But she's

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<v Speaker 2>also this like really impressive producer and you know, her

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<v Speaker 2>production company like makes billion dollar movies, right, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is all relatively within about ten years, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>so it's it's funny because I remember in Wolf of

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<v Speaker 2>Wall Street, like she you think she's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>like the pretty wife that just is a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an antagonist to Kaprio's character, but then she ends

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<v Speaker 2>up being like a co lead who basically runs away

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<v Speaker 2>with every scene that she's in, and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>who is this, Like she's I haven't seen her before,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is like going toe to toe and then

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<v Speaker 2>she just never stopped everything she did. She just exploded,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, suicide Squad, it, Tania, all those sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, she became like a producing force. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of cool to listen to her just

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that journey, yeah, and just how quickly it

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<v Speaker 3>And so I mean truly when I first saw her,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw her as Jamie Presley two point zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right right, you know, And.

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<v Speaker 3>No disrespect to Jamie Presley, but you know, she has

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<v Speaker 3>certainly expanded beyond being being typified as such.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>AnyWho, Hey, what else? What else have you seen recently?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll talk about a couple of things, but

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<v Speaker 2>real quick, I want to mention I had mentioned this

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<v Speaker 2>in a previous episode. I was lucky enough to attend

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<v Speaker 2>the DGA had their awards recently, and they had a

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<v Speaker 2>panel where it was the directors that had been nominated

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<v Speaker 2>for Best Director that year. So basically it was a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with Paul Thomas Anderson, Ryan Coogler, Guermero Del Toro,

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Safti, and Chloe Jao And it was really amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was like a three hour long conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with them, and I just I wrote down a couple

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<v Speaker 2>things I thought were kind of interesting that I would share.

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<v Speaker 2>Chloe Joao was talking about when she directs, she's like

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<v Speaker 2>very into dream work, Okay, you know, so like before

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<v Speaker 2>they start their day, she and the actors would journal

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<v Speaker 2>their dreams from the night before, talk about them together,

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<v Speaker 2>and based on those conversations that could dictate or even

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<v Speaker 2>like change the direction of the day that they had planned.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so She's like there could be a complete, like

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<v Speaker 2>a setup that was already ready to go, lights, everything,

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<v Speaker 2>but based on our conversation about our dreams, we might

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<v Speaker 2>move the whole thing, you know. And it's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I I, maybe this is just me, but I sort

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<v Speaker 2>of felt a like through the crowd because they're all directors,

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<v Speaker 2>so much time and money and whatever. But hey, it's

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<v Speaker 2>worked for her so far, right. But what was really

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's nice to hear that that works for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said the only time an actor said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great.

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<v Speaker 2>He was Germo del Toro. I could listen to him

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<v Speaker 2>He was talking about how, you know, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>And and it's funny because everyone seemed to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>of fascinating. So he was saying slower half, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, and I thought that was kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>hear how collaborative he was. Like a lot of ideas

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<v Speaker 2>from other people, from the actors themselves formed big parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the narrative of one battle after another. Like Benizio

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<v Speaker 2>del Toro gave him the idea. He said, I want

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<v Speaker 2>this guy to not just be assisting to Capitol's character,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he should also at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>Things that came from him, Yes, incredible, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's and Anderson just freely like that's a great.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred percent in the movie itself. And wow, I just

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<v Speaker 2>And then uh Ran Coogler told a story I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was interesting where he was saying, you know, filming

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<v Speaker 2>on location, they had this you know, at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie, there's that body of water that the

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<v Speaker 2>a pond or a lake or something. He said that

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<v Speaker 2>it was filled with alligators. So what they did was

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<v Speaker 2>that the actors could get into, like a partition or

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<v Speaker 2>body of water, he said, but the alligators did come

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, that sounds like a nightmare, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>I love the idea of that, because I wasn't thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about that at all when I was watching. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that the links that they went through, like, let's build

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<v Speaker 2>an extra portion of this lake so the alligators can't

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<v Speaker 2>eat our actors. Like, just hearing that story, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>It was fascinating. I was really glad I got to

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<v Speaker 2>attend that. Two movies I'll talk about real quick. I

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<v Speaker 2>had mentioned this. We had mentioned this back in December,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. But James L. Brooks had a movie that

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<v Speaker 2>came out in twenty twenty five called Ella McKay, which

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little surprised to learn, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>were as interested in it as I was. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>probably for the same reasons. The IMDb summary says, an

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<v Speaker 2>idealistic young woman juggles her family and work life in

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<v Speaker 2>a comedy about the people you love and how to

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<v Speaker 2>survive them. So it's basically, you know, this young woman

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<v Speaker 2>becomes governor of a state that's never named, and just

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<v Speaker 2>all the stuff that she has to endure between you know,

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<v Speaker 2>things at work and with her family. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>what appealed to me is from the trailer, this movie

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<v Speaker 2>looked like something straight out of two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I was about to say it escaped from nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. I mean you can imagine the song suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>I see playing somewhere in it, you know, like as

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, you know, her shoot or her heel breaks

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<v Speaker 2>and she's trying to walk down the sidewalk or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. You know, what's what's a governor to do?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I wanted to see it because I think

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<v Speaker 2>what you just said, you agree, Like we miss these

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<v Speaker 2>kind of warm dramedies, you know, like as good as

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<v Speaker 2>It Gets, or a lot of Rob Rinery kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff American President Harry mit Sally or even Cameron Crow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like Jerry Maguire. Like they're very sincere and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even like bordering on corny, but in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like a cozy blanket. And I'm sorry to

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<v Speaker 2>say that movie doesn't quite rise of those levels unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, like a lot of the dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>and the way that the characters behave is really like

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<v Speaker 2>cutesy pooh okay, you know, and like kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a Hallmark card come to life, which confusingly is sort

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<v Speaker 2>of what I showed up for. Okay, and occasionally it

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<v Speaker 2>felt kind of nice and it was like what I

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<v Speaker 2>was hoping for, but it also I think too much

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, just so you're you're like tigger, right, Tiggers like

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<v Speaker 3>tiggers love honey. And then he takes Poo's honey. He's

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<v Speaker 3>just putting tiggers hate honey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so, yeah, I mean because those other

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<v Speaker 2>ones are calibrated. Okay, well enough, like I'm saying, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry McGuire is kind of a corny movie, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>calibrated just right where you're really happy when he shows

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<v Speaker 2>up at the end and says, you know that you

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<v Speaker 2>complete me thing? Yeah stop, you know you had me

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<v Speaker 2>at hello. Like and this one, unfortunately just leans too

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<v Speaker 2>far into the hallmarky qtpooh stuff and it's but what's

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<v Speaker 2>great is it has a lot of interesting ideas. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like her dad played by Woody Harrelson. He's this lithario

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<v Speaker 2>kind of guy who never faces any consequences for like

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<v Speaker 2>his you know, his actions and then she then later

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<v Speaker 2>when she's an adult, she has this almost wholesome sex

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<v Speaker 2>scandal that that happens, but she's forced to confront the

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<v Speaker 2>public about it and make hard decisions that could affect

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<v Speaker 2>her her career, you know, and it's it's kind of unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also kind of talks about maybe you can't

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<v Speaker 2>be honest and get good work done while you're in

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<v Speaker 2>public office. Maybe you have to find other avenues to

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<v Speaker 2>get real stuff done, you know, because there's can be

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<v Speaker 2>a game and that's kind of interesting. But then there's

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<v Speaker 2>this like subplot about her brother that is just unbearable. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>And it does not connect to hardly anything, Like to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like a page in a notebook that Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>had where he's like, oh, this could be something, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, I'm in my mid eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm gonna be making more movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just try to shoehorn it in here. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to say I was cringing a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more than I would like as I was watching this,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bummer.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Yeah. I like everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I like all the ingredients, and I like the spirit

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<v Speaker 2>what it was trying to do. But at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, I just it's pretty messy, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I left disappointed and just wishing, wishing it had been

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<v Speaker 2>more of the thing it was aiming for. So I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say I regret watching it. I was curious and

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<v Speaker 2>I am glad that I checked it out despite being

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<v Speaker 2>let down. Yeah, I want more cozy sort of stories

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<v Speaker 2>like this, but yeah, unfortunately this was a swing and

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<v Speaker 2>a miss.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. And this gets to the discussion we were having

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<v Speaker 3>before about I mean, when's the last time James L.

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<v Speaker 3>Brooks had a film that really broke through and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>had had some role in the zeitgeist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and it's and this is not I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean this personally, but you know, maybe you you

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<v Speaker 2>had your finger on the pulse at one time, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and and it was the right moment because that was

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<v Speaker 2>the pulse, that was what people wanted, that's what people

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But then people, you know, we talk about this a lot, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The seventies had a lot of movies that were very

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<v Speaker 2>gritty and you know, anti heroes and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>hero died at the end for doing the right thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Right, But then the eighties, we wanted a

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<v Speaker 2>on to where we want the hero to win and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a nice moral at the end of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what I mean, like things kind of

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<v Speaker 2>evolve and this really cute see folksy Hallmark cart of

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<v Speaker 2>a movie just doesn't necessarily have a place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm kind of conflicted with what I'm saying because

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<v Speaker 2>I showed up for that reason, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>could appeal to a certain amount of people maybe who

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<v Speaker 2>are looking, like I say, for a cozy blanket movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think that's the issue with this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the issue is that the movie didn't come

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<v Speaker 2>together well enough well that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, just by chance. I was talking about Ella McKay

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<v Speaker 3>in my class earlier this week, and not because I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen it. I had a student who said, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>watched it. I said, oh, what do you think? And

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of echoed, you like, didn't really come together,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And I was making a broader point, which

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<v Speaker 3>is something we've talked about where you know, like directors,

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<v Speaker 3>storytellers more broadly, you know, they get a window and

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<v Speaker 3>eventually the world moves on, you know, the window can

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<v Speaker 3>be short, it can be long, but it's still you know,

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<v Speaker 3>at some point you're not you're you're not at the

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<v Speaker 3>top of your class anymore. Sure because of those geist

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<v Speaker 3>has shifted, you know, and so certainly James L. Brooks,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, as good as it gets right, the

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<v Speaker 3>last successful right, I think that's the last thing that

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<v Speaker 3>comes to mind for me. Yeah, right, Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we when we talked about Rob Reiner, right, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>he had that window from you know, about ten ten

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<v Speaker 3>years let's say, where it's just like hitter after hitter

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<v Speaker 3>after hitter, and then he just couldn't you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>Right right later, things like rumor.

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<v Speaker 3>Has it, Yeah, you know, I mean but that run

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, right, legendary spinal tap, Princess Bride, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>misery few good and American President, I mean just brons

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<v Speaker 3>of those put him on the mantle. There's your call

421
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<v Speaker 3>it a career after that, you know what I mean.

422
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<v Speaker 3>But you know, everyone gets their window, you know, I

423
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<v Speaker 3>mean you and I were talking about with genuine curiosity,

424
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<v Speaker 3>how is Steven Spielberg's disclosure day going to play when

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<v Speaker 3>really it's largely being sold on his name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because although he is still Steven Spielberg, you know,

427
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<v Speaker 2>and everybody knows who he is. I mean for people

428
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<v Speaker 2>who weren't around in the eighties nineties, like he was

429
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<v Speaker 2>King of the Mountain, that's right, you know what I mean.

430
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<v Speaker 2>And I think now he is a legend. But his

431
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<v Speaker 2>movies you can't count on them to take the world

432
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<v Speaker 2>by storm in the way that they used to.

433
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<v Speaker 3>That's right, right, Yeah, you know what.

434
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<v Speaker 2>This reminds me. I wasn't gonna bring this up, but

435
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<v Speaker 2>I think this is related. So last night, for the

436
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<v Speaker 2>first time, I watched the movie Blood Diamond, Oh okay,

437
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<v Speaker 2>Edward Zwick, Diamond, Hunsu Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer Connolly. And I

438
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<v Speaker 2>told you about this when you were here a week ago.

439
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<v Speaker 2>I said, this is an airplane movie for me, meaning

440
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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen it. I feel like DiCaprio almost always

441
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<v Speaker 2>is in things that are a little elevated, you know,

442
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<v Speaker 2>you can count on them to be a certain level

443
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<v Speaker 2>of good. And somehow I miss that movie. And so

444
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<v Speaker 2>when I get on an airplane and they have, you know,

445
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<v Speaker 2>the screen on the seat, and I'm scrolling through and

446
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sort of saving maybe two or three movies to

447
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<v Speaker 2>choose from. I always pick Blood Diamond, Blood Diamond because

448
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I feel like I miss this and

449
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<v Speaker 2>it's probably got to be a certain level of good.

450
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<v Speaker 2>And I ended up I didn't know what to watch

451
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<v Speaker 2>last night, so I watched Blood Diamond and I thought

452
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<v Speaker 2>it was good, but I thought there was something interesting

453
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<v Speaker 2>about it. It is very serious. I mean, it's about

454
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<v Speaker 2>conflict diamonds, it's about child armies, you know, like ten

455
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<v Speaker 2>year olds with machine guns murdering people. It's a very

456
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<v Speaker 2>very serious topic. But it is filmed like a Hollywood blockbuster,

457
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<v Speaker 2>and the tone very much plays like a Hollywood blockbuster.

458
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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, this feels like two thousand and five,

459
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<v Speaker 2>and I don't feel like this same script or story

460
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<v Speaker 2>would be executed this way in twenty twenty six. I

461
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<v Speaker 2>don't think people would accept it. And I thought that

462
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<v Speaker 2>was kind of fascinating, sort of you know, as we

463
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<v Speaker 2>talk about just what people expect tones, you know what

464
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, from certain sorts of stories. Yeah, and that

465
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<v Speaker 2>might have played in that moment. I mean, it was

466
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<v Speaker 2>nominated for a bunch of Oscars, and I did think

467
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<v Speaker 2>it was really well done, but I was sort of

468
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<v Speaker 2>surprised by the almost blockbuster movie types of turns that

469
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<v Speaker 2>it took, or the way that like the action. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we're watching a lot of people just being squibs oh

471
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<v Speaker 2>down by machine gun fire. But it feels like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching an action movie. That's interesting, whereas I think now

473
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<v Speaker 2>it would be handled a little differently. Yeah, yeah, which

474
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<v Speaker 2>is just kind of an interesting like what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventies feel like this, early two thousands feel like this,

476
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<v Speaker 2>two thousand tens, twenties feel like this, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, So yeah, Edswick did Last Samurai.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Just before that, right right, which I saw in theaters

479
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<v Speaker 2>and I don't remember very well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be curious to Yeah, I mean that's another one.

481
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<v Speaker 3>It like goes down fine, but I don't know that

482
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<v Speaker 3>it really stays with you. Great score though, Hans Zimmer,

483
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<v Speaker 3>Oh right, right right. I've definitely listened to that a bunch,

484
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<v Speaker 3>you know.

485
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<v Speaker 2>I know Zick wrote a book recently that I don't

486
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<v Speaker 2>remember the title, but just anecdotes from making movies, hits, flops.

487
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<v Speaker 3>And other illusions my forty something years in Hollywood. There

488
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<v Speaker 3>you go.

489
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<v Speaker 2>I thought it's not really interesting. I heard him on

490
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<v Speaker 2>a couple of podcasts talking about it and sharing some

491
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<v Speaker 2>stores and at some point that's something I'd like to read.

492
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<v Speaker 3>Have you read it? I have not, although I believe

493
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<v Speaker 3>I have it in my audio library. Oh nice, yeah, nice?

494
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<v Speaker 3>Anything else of noteworth mentioning?

495
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<v Speaker 2>One more? I watched The Smashing Machine. Ah, yes, right,

496
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<v Speaker 2>which was made by as Saft. This is by Benny Safty,

497
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<v Speaker 2>who is the one who we see acting more often, right,

498
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<v Speaker 2>like he was in Oppenheimer.

499
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

500
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<v Speaker 2>And this is I'm reading off IMDb the story of

501
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Mixed Martial Arts and UFC champion Mark Kerr, played by

502
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<v Speaker 2>Dwayne the Rock Johnson. And this is an interesting one

503
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<v Speaker 2>because this came out I think it's September, and I

504
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.200
<v Speaker 2>think most people expected this to be like an award

505
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.519
<v Speaker 2>season movie and there'd be a lot of buzz around

506
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<v Speaker 2>Dwayne Johnson's performance, Right, but.

507
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<v Speaker 3>Then iterformance in the movie or while promoting the movie

508
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<v Speaker 3>with his glasses and his and his steepled fingers.

509
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>His steepled figure, that's so perfect. Yeah, yeah, but it

510
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 2>but it didn't really perform, and then it kind of

511
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 2>got forgotten about and it hasn't been a part of

512
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<v Speaker 2>the words conversation.

513
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:21.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and people prefer Ping Pong from from Uh Safty

514
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 3>is instead of a fresh Safty Yeah.

515
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Which we did like. But anyway, I miss Smashing Machine.

516
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I meant to check it out, but it left quickly

517
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<v Speaker 2>and then anyway, it's it's on HBO Max now. And

518
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<v Speaker 2>for me, this is kind of an interesting one. I

519
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<v Speaker 2>can't say that I thought it worked as a whole.

520
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:47.680
<v Speaker 2>And the reason is the story itself doesn't feel completely satisfying,

521
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.079
<v Speaker 2>but there are a lot of good things here at

522
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 2>the same time. It's it's sort of like the opposite

523
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>of the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

524
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<v Speaker 2>Like the parts are pretty good, you know, like the

525
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<v Speaker 2>whole it's okay, you know, like the good the performances actually,

526
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<v Speaker 2>Emily Blunt, Dwayne Johnson, you know, I think I I'll

527
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<v Speaker 2>speak for myself. I've kind of come down on Johnson

528
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 2>in recent years, and I think a lot of it

529
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<v Speaker 2>has to do with he He was very popular for

530
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>a while, but then as he kept making movies that

531
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<v Speaker 2>I thought weren't very good. He was just always playing

532
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<v Speaker 2>the same person, kind of like you know, a boy

533
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>scout who could do no wrong, who never got injured,

534
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.799
<v Speaker 2>but had a million dollar smile and it was starting

535
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<v Speaker 2>to get a little stale for me. But I gotta

536
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<v Speaker 2>say he is very very good in this movie, like

537
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:48.839
<v Speaker 2>really makes the case like he is a very good actor.

538
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<v Speaker 3>Steepled fingers justified.

539
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 2>He earned he earned that. Yeah, and you know it.

540
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Also it has some very compelling scenes okay, but overall

541
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really have a lot of structure to it

542
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>or or like even stakes. I mean there there are

543
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>moments of drama that I found interesting, but it just

544
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<v Speaker 2>as a as a as a movie, as a whole,

545
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>as a story, it just I don't know, just didn't

546
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 2>come together or phil as compelling and overall as a

547
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>whole as it should.

548
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I feel. So here here here's my thought. I think

549
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<v Speaker 3>I think we can solve. I think we can be

550
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 3>like a problem solvers for Hollywood. We got we just

551
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 3>talked about two movies that underperformed. Let's pool our resources.

552
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>So James L. Brooks makes the Smashing McKay Oh yes,

553
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<v Speaker 3>about a lieutenant governor who resigns to become a wrestler.

554
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go on, that's all I got so far. Okay, Well,

555
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>then I think chat GPT can can feel in the

556
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>rest now Scoot chat GPT let's do this. But then

557
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>then this guy Mark Kerr, you know, runs for public office.

558
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.559
<v Speaker 2>But then he has a wholesome sex scandal that he

559
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>has to confront spite his Lithorio dad getting away with everything,

560
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 2>played by Woody Harrelson.

561
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that, I think, I think the the dollars

562
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<v Speaker 3>will print themselves.

563
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, but you know, I couldn't help but think

564
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<v Speaker 2>of the movie The Wrestler, the Darren Aronofsky movie. Oh sure, yeah,

565
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>what's his name?

566
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Uh, Micky or.

567
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mickey Rourke and Rissa Toomey.

568
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 3>And that's sad, by the way, we went from Mickey

569
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 3>Rourke's triumphant Oscar nominated to come back to what's his name? Dude?

570
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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's sad because the first I pictured him in

571
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 2>that movie, and then I was thinking of Sin City

572
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 2>and I was seeing him, you know, black and white.

573
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<v Speaker 3>You know, I just took me a second.

574
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<v Speaker 2>But and now, to be fair that this movie is

575
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<v Speaker 2>a true story.

576
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 3>That movie, I.

577
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't think is The Wrestler inspired by a lot of

578
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 2>true stories that have been you know, combined together. But

579
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>that is a really great story character journey. I really

580
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 2>loved that movie and I would recommend that again for

581
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<v Speaker 2>people looking for a little bit more of a dynamic

582
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>but grounded and gritty and heartfelt wrestling story. But to

583
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>be fair, I like that they didn't make stuff up

584
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>for this curse story. At least they didn't you know,

585
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>invent characters and.

586
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh like try to zazz it up from really you know,

587
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 3>and and I tend to like kind of you know, hang.

588
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Out movies, you know, Once upon a Time in Hollywood,

589
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Train Dreams, Lost in Translation, those sorts of things. They

590
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of story, but you enjoy existing

591
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>with those characters. But for some reason, this one was

592
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 2>just lacking a propulsion for me.

593
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

594
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but but some good scenes, great performances, and

595
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 2>so if those positive things sound like enough for you

596
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>to check this out, I say, you know, give it

597
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:45.279
<v Speaker 2>a watch on HBO Max.

598
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

599
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, kind of kind of a mixed bag with

600
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<v Speaker 2>some admiration.

601
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay for me, okay, okay, yeah, Well real quickly, I'll

602
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<v Speaker 3>just mention that I have seen the first four episodes

603
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>of the reboot of Scrubs.

604
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh very curious.

605
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 3>So this starts this coming Wednesday. As we were recording

606
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<v Speaker 3>those Wednesday the twenty fifth, Were you a Scrubsky? I

607
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 3>can't remember.

608
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<v Speaker 2>No, I came to it kind of late, you know,

609
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 2>many many years later on streaming, and I remember, I'm

610
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 2>gonna be honest, I had a friend who I think

611
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.279
<v Speaker 2>said that they didn't like it, okay, and that got

612
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 2>a little bit in my head. I was like, Oh, well,

613
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:31.799
<v Speaker 2>they don't like it, so I guess this probably isn't

614
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 2>for me, and and so I just I don't know.

615
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't engage with it. But then I saw it

616
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 2>years later and was like, oh, this is really fun

617
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and I liked it because it was funny and the

618
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>characters were all great, and it also managed to balance

619
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>this almost impossible possible mix of tones. Yeah you know

620
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, like really really almost mad magazine or

621
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>like like simpsony humor. But then it would get deadly

622
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>serious and sincere in parts, and somehow they pulled it off.

623
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<v Speaker 2>So yes, I finally saw most of it and liked.

624
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 3>It a lot. Well, if you liked it, I suspect

625
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 3>you like this, okay. I think it's it's I mean, gosh,

626
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:22.920
<v Speaker 3>it's been what sixteen years since the previous show ended. Wow, yeah,

627
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:25.720
<v Speaker 3>so this is season ten. I like that they're promoting

628
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 3>it that way, although it basically ignores the ninth season.

629
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<v Speaker 3>Oh right, right, which was kind of this attempt to

630
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<v Speaker 3>create a next generation handoff within the show. You know.

631
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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so I feel like a couple legacy characters appeared

632
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<v Speaker 2>in that one. Are they basically saying that whatever roles

633
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.559
<v Speaker 2>or positions at the hospital they had in that season,

634
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 2>they're just ignoring all that?

635
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 3>That is my sense, Yes, okay, and so I think

636
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 3>that's what Zach Braff has said as well, like we're

637
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 3>we're just not acknowledging the ninth season. Okay, but yeah,

638
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 3>the whole gang is back. You know, we got we

639
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 3>got Zach Braf, Donald Faison. I remember talking when we

640
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 3>were talking about Clueless, you know, anytime we saw Donald Faison.

641
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Like, how is Zach Braff not next tent?

642
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Like we just there. We associate them as as they

643
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>they're match set, you know. So it's great to see

644
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:23.280
<v Speaker 3>them together again. Uh, Sarah Chalk is back. The one

645
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 3>disappointment for me is that John C McGinley is recurring

646
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 3>and not a regular Yeah, I want more doctor Cox.

647
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I feel like doctor Cox is the the glue. You know,

648
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 3>he was always my favorite character on the show.

649
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's hilarious.

650
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 3>So that I just want more of him. But but

651
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 3>it's it's Scrubs, man. I I grew up with it, right, Like,

652
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean I that show started, gosh was it? Oh one?

653
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Wow?

654
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, so I was just about wrapping up college

655
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 3>and so a very very formative part of that very

656
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 3>formative part of a very I'm a part of my life,

657
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, that era, leaving college, going into the real world,

658
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 3>getting married, all that stuff. You know, my first two kids.

659
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 3>That was all during the Scrubs era.

660
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>You know.

661
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Wow. So I think this season is nine. I don't

662
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 3>know if if their plan is to keep going, but

663
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I certainly hope so. I mean, gosh, they haven't. They

664
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 3>haven't skipped a beat, you know.

665
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>That's great?

666
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, minus again that that ninth season.

667
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's interesting too. I Mean in that original seasons

668
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>they were the underdogs, right, like they were sort of

669
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>like in training, right, that's right, Like, so now are

670
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>they the top dogs at the hospital?

671
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Like? Yeah, I mean that's that's the That's what's interesting

672
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 3>is that it's playing similar beats as that ninth season.

673
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 3>But I think with the passage of time and the

674
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 3>fact that the characters are older, we sort of expect

675
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.719
<v Speaker 3>that they're going to have different roles in the in

676
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the narrative, right and and I think, at least for

677
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>me more importantly, the story is still focus on our guy,

678
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 3>mm hmm. Right. Like, what I remember most about the

679
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:09.480
<v Speaker 3>ninth season is that the first episode starts with with

680
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 3>JD and you know, it's his narration, and then and

681
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 3>then as he's talking, the narration gets taken over by,

682
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, by the new Essentially the new JD.

683
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 2>That's very clever, might not be very satisfying or what

684
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I want that that was the ninth season. Yeah, but

685
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a clever idea, I think, to hand it up.

686
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 3>But I think audiences just weren't ready for that.

687
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, I mean, but you're not showing up

688
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 2>for the new person. It's like saved by the Bell,

689
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 2>the new class. I want to see Zach Morris. I

690
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 2>don't want to see this, that's right.

691
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 3>So, so you know, this is something that that Bill

692
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Lawrence talked about where he wanted to call it Scrubs

693
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 3>med School and situated as a different show. Right, And

694
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>had they done that, maybe people would have been more

695
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 3>receptive to it.

696
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Sure, but the network, I'm assuming was.

697
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, exactly, No, no, you gotta call it scrubs,

698
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 3>you know. Yeah, And and so this show smartly, it's

699
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 3>still it keeps us with our people. And oh, by

700
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:07.960
<v Speaker 3>the way, here are these these new interns that they're supervising.

701
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 3>It feels like that.

702
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Would be satisfying. I mean, that's kind of the thing,

703
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 2>right with these legacy quels. Typically they introduce a younger

704
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 2>generation that's eventually going to step up and take over,

705
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's a lot of gambling that we're

706
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>going to immediately fall in love with those people and

707
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 2>want to see less of the people we are actually

708
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 2>showing up for.

709
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

710
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.079
<v Speaker 2>So that sounds like a good balance, right, Yeah, it's

711
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>too bad that doctor Cox isn't in it as much.

712
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like, yeah, if Brath and Faison were

713
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>reoccurring characters occasionally, that would feel like a big bummer.

714
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like like in the what was the name of

715
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.559
<v Speaker 3>the character who was like she was, I mean, it

716
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.280
<v Speaker 3>was unfair to her. She sort of had to become

717
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 3>the what's her name? Carrie Boschet? Is that her name? Shoot?

718
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm not sure.

719
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's her. She's from She's an Argo, Okay. Anyway,

720
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 3>she was like the new lead. She was like the

721
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 3>new JDA, and it was it's like that's too much pressure,

722
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 3>you know.

723
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

724
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, so nine nine episodes I've seen four. They

725
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.320
<v Speaker 3>go down easy and they do stay with you a

726
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:21.960
<v Speaker 3>little bit so a little yeah, uh not not not

727
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 3>too shabby. I would say that sounds fun.

728
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the mood for something like that.

729
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh yeah, yeah, I think I think you are. Yeah,

730
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I concur yes, you are in the mood for that, Brian.

731
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 3>That's uh, that's Wednesday, and then they'll be streaming the

732
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.119
<v Speaker 3>next day. And then I've also started watching the second

733
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 3>season of Monarch, which is the Legacy of Monsters, right, yes,

734
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 3>which I don't think you ever got around to watching

735
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 3>that first season, right.

736
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>No, that was HBO Max right no, Apple TV plus,

737
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.760
<v Speaker 2>my apologies, do you have Apple TV Plus?

738
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I do? Okay, it's good, you know. Well I I

739
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna speak to the second season because I

740
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 3>can't talk about that yet, but the first season, you know,

741
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 3>I I think you and I both after watching that

742
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.239
<v Speaker 3>last Godzilla versus Kong movie, we're like, okay, that's enough

743
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 3>of that, yes, right. I like this show because it

744
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 3>it's it lives within that world and it and it's

745
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 3>very and I mean this in a compliment way, I

746
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.119
<v Speaker 3>swear it's very Agents of Shield. Okay, sure, where it's like,

747
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>you got interesting characters and and you have this storyline

748
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:39.480
<v Speaker 3>that that's playing out across two time periods. So if

749
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 3>you remember the Conceit and the show is you have

750
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.079
<v Speaker 3>you have Kurt Russell in the present and White Russell

751
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 3>in the past, but they're playing the same which is great. Yeah,

752
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 3>I love that. So a new season of that starts

753
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:54.800
<v Speaker 3>this coming week. It's nice. AnyWho, Hey, we got some

754
00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 3>listener letters, Brian. You have been after me. Eighteen thousands,

755
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 3>all addressed.

756
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:11.400
<v Speaker 2>You've got mailed.

757
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Here's a note we got from Matthew who emailed us

758
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 3>in Movie Film Podcast at gmail dot com. He says, ohla, gents,

759
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 3>regarding the leadership change at Lucasfilm and the timeline hoopla

760
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.280
<v Speaker 3>at Galaxy's Edge, I think a key question for Star

761
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Wars' future will be the use of the classic characters

762
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.079
<v Speaker 3>of Luke, Lea and Han. They're obviously dead and gone

763
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.760
<v Speaker 3>in the post Rise of Skywalker time frame. Well shit,

764
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 3>that's really depressing when you put it that way.

765
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is isn't it.

766
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.719
<v Speaker 3>That just occurred to me. I'm like, well, yeah, yeah,

767
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.199
<v Speaker 3>post Rise of Skywalker time frame Starfighter in any future

768
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Ray movie. But as as the Book of Boba, Fett

769
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.840
<v Speaker 3>and Ahsoka season one acknowledge, they're still alive and well

770
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>in the Mandalorian time frame, So if the rumored Mando

771
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.559
<v Speaker 3>and Friends versus Throng crossover movie is made, they'll have

772
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 3>to be dealt with somehow. Maybe Starfighter will be a

773
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:06.280
<v Speaker 3>huge hit and audiences will clamor to see its young

774
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 3>boy hero train with Ray, making the above question moot.

775
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.719
<v Speaker 3>If it underperforms, however, there could be considerable pressure to

776
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 3>revive Luke, Leah and Hunt on the big screen, which

777
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 3>would almost certainly necessitate recasting, and then Lucasfilm would be

778
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>faced with a choice of dooming this recast trio to

779
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 3>the misery and failure established by the sequel trilogy, or

780
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 3>using space magic Tomfoolery to declare that these versions of

781
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 3>the characters will follow on you and unwritten path your thoughts. Hmmm, wow, Yeah,

782
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 3>so I.

783
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Think when he says magic tomfoolery, that would be sort

784
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:42.760
<v Speaker 2>of like Star Trek O nine.

785
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was thinking. Yeah, some Timey Wymy Wibley Wobbly.

786
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like your version of those heroes still exists in

787
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.159
<v Speaker 2>a timeline, but we happen to be in another timeline. Now.

788
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I want that for Star Wars personally,

789
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't either.

790
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't either. Yeah, I think that there are

791
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 3>no good options. Yeah, right, Like at this point, what

792
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Mando and whatnot they've established is that because of Luke

793
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 3>being sort of this cgi, you know, a puppet right

794
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 3>in Mandalorian and Book a boaffect, it makes it harder

795
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:32.440
<v Speaker 3>to recast, right, But also I don't think Disney can

796
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 3>do anything with those characters that's not going to piss

797
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 3>off somebody.

798
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, okay, Actually, when you said there are no

799
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 2>good options, I was gonna be like, well, maybe there's

800
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>no obvious options, But when you put it that way, yes,

801
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 2>there are gonna be no easy options for sure. Yes, yes,

802
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>just because of the state of fandom these days.

803
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that just fandom in general, I don't care

804
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.400
<v Speaker 3>what franchise you're talking about, just people are generally pretty miserable,

805
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know how much that reflects, Like, I

806
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 3>don't know how much online discourse reflects, like reality, the

807
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 3>touch grass side of the equation, you know. Yeah, but

808
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 3>I will say this, this past week, they just dropped

809
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 3>the trailer for the full trailer for the Mandalorian and

810
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 3>Grow Group. Right, And at this point, my feelings on

811
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 3>this movie are pretty well stated. So, I mean, anybody

812
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 3>listening who hasn't heard I'm feeling like, Eh, I don't know,

813
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 3>I'll be watching it anyway. That's That's where I'm at.

814
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right.

815
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 3>But my friend who is I mean a lifelong Star

816
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 3>Wars fan, and he's he's swallowed everything, you know, he's

817
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 3>he's found a way into just about everything. He texted me,

818
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 3>he is like, I think it might be done. No,

819
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.440
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm just not feeling it. You know.

820
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:55.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like shocked that I seem to be the most

821
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 2>positive on it, even though I'm not terribly excited.

822
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not negative on it. I'm I am. I am

823
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.239
<v Speaker 3>absolutely ready to be surprised, but I will admit I'm

824
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.760
<v Speaker 3>not feeling anything for it based on what I've seen

825
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 3>this far. You know what it is.

826
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I am excited about what I'm seeing,

827
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 2>but I am excited to get back into Star Wars world. Sure,

828
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, because I feel like it's

829
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>been a minute. I think it's I did enjoy early

830
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>seasons of The Mandalorian, but I kind of fell off

831
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>from it eventually, and so it's not like I'm clamoring

832
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 2>to get back with these characters necessarily, but I am

833
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:38.639
<v Speaker 2>hoping for a great Star Wars e romp, which sounds positive,

834
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure not as positive as people would like

835
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 2>to hear. Yeah, right, because I don't know that this

836
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>is going to come out and be a phenomenon. I

837
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>think a segment of people are going to show up

838
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:53.800
<v Speaker 2>and it will be probably a hit.

839
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.159
<v Speaker 3>But now I think it'll do okay. I don't think

840
00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be it's not going to knock anybody

841
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.039
<v Speaker 3>socks off well box office wise, I mean.

842
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, by certain metrics, I'm sure it will be underwhelming,

843
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 2>but it could still make its money back, but that

844
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 2>won't be what people That's not what people expect out

845
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>of a Star Wars movie or a Marvel movie or whatever.

846
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:14.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, those are supposed to be billion dollar movies.

847
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 3>So I don't yeah so well, I mean, I mean

848
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 3>I see it performing on par with like Captain America

849
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Braveney World or the Thunderbolts.

850
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Totally, totally.

851
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Speaker 3>I will say this, I was happy to see Pedro

852
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Pascal's face at a few points on this trailer because

853
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I have no desire to watch Pedro Pescal Stunt Double

854
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 3>and Acgi Creation are romping through the you know, two

855
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:40.840
<v Speaker 3>hours of this thing.

856
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I agree with you, because I like Pedro Pescal

857
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 2>and whatever. But I have seen some people complain because

858
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 2>apparently it is a huge deal. If you know, a

859
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Mandalorian warrior takes their helmet off, and so it's like, well,

860
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>is this person just doing this willy nilly? Now does

861
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.039
<v Speaker 2>this mean anything? I remember it was a really big

862
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 2>deal when he took it off the first time for

863
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>the sake of saving Grogu, I think, and I remember

864
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 2>like the second season, second season that's stuck with me.

865
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was really powerful.

866
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 3>And when he takes his mask off again as he

867
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.960
<v Speaker 3>says goodbye, right right. But here here's the problem. Okay,

868
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 3>you talk about the sense that they're kind of stumble

869
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>bumming their way through this stuff, when when Mando parts

870
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 3>with Grogu at the end of season two, it's a

871
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 3>big emotional moment.

872
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sorry, I got distracted because When he said Stumblebum,

873
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I was like, could that be a Master's of the

874
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Universe character? It absolutely could, ram Man, humble Bum, stumble bum.

875
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:47.199
<v Speaker 3>Come on, that would be one of the remainder discount

876
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 3>shelf funds from from like the late eighties.

877
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 2>It didn't take off the way they expected.

878
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, so, so, uh you have Mando and and

879
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Grogu are separated, and so you'll get them back to

880
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 3>you get them back together. Not in a movie, not

881
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 3>even season three of the Mandalorian, No, in a random

882
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 3>episode of the Book of Boba fet Oh that's right.

883
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so.

884
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 3>That's the story for your movie. How do Mandu and

885
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Grogo get Did I say Mandu, Mando and Grogu get

886
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 3>back together? Right? That's what's interesting. Yep. I don't know, man,

887
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Some of these decisions they baffle me,

888
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.199
<v Speaker 3>and I'm I'm I want this stuff to do well.

889
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh me too, I am you know always I

890
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 2>want I want to see Star Wars for the rest

891
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 2>of my life.

892
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 3>The big question for me is not even Mandalorian Grogu,

893
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:41.000
<v Speaker 3>it's Starfighter. I think that's the biggest question. Mark. Yeah,

894
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 3>because you're asking people because there's nothing pre existing. So

895
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 3>in other words, you're expecting the Star Wars label to

896
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 3>be the thing that gets people into the theater, right,

897
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's gonna be a challenge man.

898
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm not jealous of the people

899
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.079
<v Speaker 2>have to make the big broad decisions of the future

900
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 2>direction of Star Wars, like in this climate with with fandom,

901
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Speaker 2>like we were talking.

902
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Fandom the way it is, and well but the legacy characters, yeah,

903
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 3>like killed off at this point.

904
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's that's tough. That's some tough decisions.

905
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Add if you look at the TV side, you have

906
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 3>Skeleton Crew, you have Acolyte. I'm assuming I'm missing something,

907
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 3>but these were these were completely free of prior character

908
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:33.000
<v Speaker 3>connections and neither of them really played, you know, So

909
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:36.079
<v Speaker 3>that that to me is maybe a signpost of of

910
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 3>what awaits Starfighter.

911
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know, but yeah, we're clearly rooting for it,

912
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:46.679
<v Speaker 2>you know.

913
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.079
<v Speaker 3>I hope it's good. But uh yeah, I mean, well,

914
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:52.559
<v Speaker 3>either way, we'll be talking about it in a few

915
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:53.360
<v Speaker 3>in a few months.

916
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, good lord, Yeah, I bet I you know,

917
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:01.159
<v Speaker 2>hearing those like Ben Burt style sound effect and seeing

918
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 2>the ad at walkers stomping around, I gotta admit I'm like, oh, like,

919
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>it's tickling something for me. So I'm hoping to go

920
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 2>in and walk out and be like, well that was fun.

921
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what.

922
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Favreau knows how to put together a good time at

923
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 3>the movies. Yeah, So if nothing else, I hope we

924
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.639
<v Speaker 3>get that. Yeah. Here's a comment we got on YouTube.

925
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 3>This is from Luke's mail twenty four. This is in

926
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 3>reference to our commentary track that we recorded last summer

927
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 3>for the first Mission a Possible film. Oh wow, okay, yeah,

928
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.039
<v Speaker 3>so he says, Oh, Zachy, have I got a story

929
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 3>for you with this one that might warm your heart.

930
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really grow up with the Mission to Possible

931
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.079
<v Speaker 3>series from the sixties, but new of the concept and

932
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:42.840
<v Speaker 3>the music because I had been a couple of episodes.

933
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, as i'd seen a couple of episodes from

934
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.679
<v Speaker 3>the eighties reboot series. My dad, however, was a major

935
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 3>fan of the sixties series, so both him and myself

936
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.440
<v Speaker 3>were hype for the movie. As the trailers were awesome.

937
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:55.480
<v Speaker 3>They actually do hold up very well too. I believe

938
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 3>I went to see the movie first and loved it.

939
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 3>With the twists and turns and the vault scene, and

940
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 3>the Danny Elfman score. I decided to take my dad

941
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:05.679
<v Speaker 3>to see the adaptation of the show that, along with

942
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 3>the original star Trek, helped launch his love of TV

943
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:10.840
<v Speaker 3>and film. Brian, I think you can see where this

944
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:11.199
<v Speaker 3>is going.

945
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know exactly where this is going.

946
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 3>My dad sat there the entire time, not saying a word.

947
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Once the movie was over, he threw his empty popcorn

948
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.800
<v Speaker 3>bucket across the island, said, Jim would never betray the

949
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 3>damn team. What kind of fraud is this? I'm with you,

950
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Luke's dad. Yep, I'm speaking to you across time. I

951
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:32.039
<v Speaker 3>said to him, I still liked it. Basically, he came

952
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:34.320
<v Speaker 3>back to me, could you imagine if Spock betrayed Kirk

953
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 3>or Solo betrayed Luke Skywalker? Then he basically left in

954
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:41.480
<v Speaker 3>a huff. Now here's the main thing. He has never

955
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:43.880
<v Speaker 3>seen a Mission Impossible movie since that day and flat

956
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.840
<v Speaker 3>out refuses to watch any Tom Cruise movie as he

957
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 3>basically holds him responsible for Jim's betrayal.

958
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

959
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 3>The one exception I believe he made was hey, the

960
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.159
<v Speaker 3>last Samurai look at that, which my mother sprung on

961
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.039
<v Speaker 3>him for their wedding and reviewing It's been hilarious watching

962
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 3>how the film series has gone getting these amazing reviews,

963
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.239
<v Speaker 3>and Dad has basically been like jewels and pulp fiction.

964
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Super rat made taste like pumpkin pie. I'll never know

965
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 3>because I wouldn't eat the filthy mother ef wort.

966
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 2>That's so perfect. Good bacon tastes good.

967
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Ugh, I never know. I just recently rewatched this on

968
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.280
<v Speaker 3>my Blu ray player, and there's an extra bio feature

969
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.760
<v Speaker 3>that has the whole journey of Phelps from the original

970
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.159
<v Speaker 3>series to the eighties to this film, and Nah, you're right.

971
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 3>This is the other Jim Phelps who went to work

972
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:41.360
<v Speaker 3>with IMF after having a terrible time with Hillbillies during

973
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:45.119
<v Speaker 3>a canoe getaway with Burt Reynolds. That's what I'm saying, Neil.

974
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, especially because I didn't really grow up with

975
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the series, so I didn't feel the full weight of

976
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 2>that when I watched it back in ninety six.

977
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:53.079
<v Speaker 3>Or whatever it was.

978
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 2>But when he says, can you imagine if Spock portrayed

979
00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Kirk or Solo betrayed Skywalker, I mean that one is huge.

980
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:05.639
<v Speaker 2>If Sol shot Luke Skywalker like that would no, I

981
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:08.519
<v Speaker 2>could never more appropriate.

982
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Is like if we see Han in force awakens and

983
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:16.800
<v Speaker 3>he's actually working with the first order, right right, you

984
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:20.440
<v Speaker 3>know that passage of time where you've really grown to

985
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, you've grown to miss the character, you know.

986
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, man again. And I want to be very clear,

987
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:30.639
<v Speaker 3>I said this in our commentary. I'm over it, I'm

988
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 3>past it, but I still find it irksome.

989
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep.

990
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Here's one last letter that we got from Karen Carl's daughter,

991
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:48.239
<v Speaker 3>who oh this is nice. She wrote was from Sweden.

992
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Speaker 3>By the way, it says, I love your podcast. I

993
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.559
<v Speaker 3>listened to it while painting the watercolor below. I did

994
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 3>while listening to the Indiana Jones commentaries. I have a

995
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 3>commentary request. Blues Brothers perhaps the greatest comedy of all time.

996
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:04.360
<v Speaker 3>It has it all all the best to you.

997
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea. I think. Didn't we just reference

998
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:10.639
<v Speaker 2>that we were talking about car crashes recently.

999
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we will absolutely

1000
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 3>be doing Blues Brothers.

1001
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 2>That's like that's going to happen. We're from Chicago, I

1002
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 2>know eighties, a lot of history there.

1003
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 3>And Brian, I showed you the lovely watercolor.

1004
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 2>This is gorgeous. It's of is this like a Macintosh apple.

1005
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:32.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like red and you know, a little bits of green.

1006
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 2>This is incredible, like the texture. We should post this

1007
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 2>somehow if you're on our Facebook, put it on the

1008
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Facebook page.

1009
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Hemp.

1010
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I just love knowing that she created this while she

1011
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 2>was listening to our podcast while we were, you know,

1012
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:50.719
<v Speaker 2>chatting about Indiana Jones that I don't know. It feels

1013
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.039
<v Speaker 2>very special to me, and I really appreciate her sharing

1014
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:54.280
<v Speaker 2>and letting us know that.

1015
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking. I mean, if if listening to our

1016
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.960
<v Speaker 3>show sparked that creativity, it's kind of like we co

1017
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:04.039
<v Speaker 3>painted it anything.

1018
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Would you mind adding our names to the bottom.

1019
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:11.119
<v Speaker 3>We'd appreciate that ever so much.

1020
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.360
<v Speaker 2>But this is really special. I feel really like connected

1021
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:18.360
<v Speaker 2>with this in a in a special way, and I'm

1022
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:19.599
<v Speaker 2>really really happy she shared this.

1023
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you so much for that. Hey, we got

1024
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:35.400
<v Speaker 3>some headlines Brian extract. All right, well here's here's uh,

1025
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 3>we have some sad news coming, but here's something uplifting

1026
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:43.880
<v Speaker 3>to let us know that there are still some things

1027
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:47.119
<v Speaker 3>we can find joy in. Uh. We were you and I.

1028
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 3>We were talking about the news that they were potentially

1029
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 3>doing a Mummy sequel starring Brendan Fraser, which if you recall,

1030
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:56.079
<v Speaker 3>I made that happen.

1031
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you spoken.

1032
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 3>I willed it into being. What am I talking about?

1033
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Go back and listen to whatever the whatever the hell

1034
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.480
<v Speaker 3>we talked about. I don't remember, but it's me. I

1035
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 3>co painted them apples. I'm a co producer on Mummy four. Baby.

1036
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:15.679
<v Speaker 2>That's funny, you know. It makes me think of one

1037
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 2>of my favorite It's such a small moment but in

1038
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Legally Blonde, when she's just like, really something happens and

1039
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:26.719
<v Speaker 2>she's really filling herself and she just goes me, it's

1040
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:29.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna picturing for you right now. It's basically the Mummy four.

1041
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:35.199
<v Speaker 3>You're like, yes, me, So it is now official. It's

1042
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 3>passed from rumor into officialness. This is a story at Variety.

1043
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:42.840
<v Speaker 3>It says a Chemi Award winners Brendan Fraser and Rachel

1044
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Weiss are officially returning for a fourth installment of the

1045
00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:50.119
<v Speaker 3>blockbuster Mummy franchise. Universal Pictures has dated the movie, directed

1046
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.639
<v Speaker 3>by Radio Silences, Matt Bentonelly Open, and Tyler Gillette for

1047
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:57.400
<v Speaker 3>why theatrical release on May nineteenth, twenty twenty eight.

1048
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Boom, look at that dated and everything that's amazing.

1049
00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Now it is arriving exactly twenty years later from the

1050
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 3>from the Third Mummy film, But more interesting to me,

1051
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:17.039
<v Speaker 3>it is arriving twenty years almost to the day of

1052
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the release of Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the

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00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Crystal Skull. Whoa, so is that an omen? Yeah? Yeah,

1054
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 3>is there? Like you know, the Med School Scrubs version

1055
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:34.159
<v Speaker 3>of us with our Indiana Jones, but they're with the

1056
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 3>Mummy franchise.

1057
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I read you and I were texting a little bit

1058
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.320
<v Speaker 2>about this, and I remember we brought this up, like

1059
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:41.840
<v Speaker 2>is this going to be a generation's, a new generation's

1060
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Crystal Skull experience? I hope not for them. I really

1061
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:52.400
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do well years of now, like working through

1062
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.320
<v Speaker 2>that for me therapy, you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean

1063
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I for a long time. I've moved past it, and

1064
00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I've even grown to when it's on TV, I can

1065
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:01.199
<v Speaker 2>stop on it, enjoying moments of it. But I said

1066
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>at the time it was the there is no Santa

1067
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Claus moment of my adult life. Oh man, I'll never

1068
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 2>forget it, dude, I will never forget sitting in that

1069
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:14.599
<v Speaker 2>theater the arc Light Sherman Oaks in two thousand and

1070
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 2>eight with you and Sean Coyle and just feeling like

1071
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I was in a dream, you know what I was watching.

1072
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.679
<v Speaker 2>And then when the lights came up and we looked

1073
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 2>at each other and we all had the same expression

1074
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:30.360
<v Speaker 2>on our faces. Yeah, I will never forget that moment

1075
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:35.920
<v Speaker 2>or that feeling. Well, uh, Radio Silence, Yeah.

1076
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Well this is this is the thing. I mean, Radio

1077
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Silence is coming at it as fans. Yes, they did

1078
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:45.039
<v Speaker 3>do a good job with the with the Scream reboot exactly, yes,

1079
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:50.119
<v Speaker 3>which has all been pissed away anyway by whatever's coming next,

1080
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:55.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, but obviously like there, they have no reason

1081
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 3>to make this except for their own just enthusiasm as

1082
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.440
<v Speaker 3>people who grew up with it. So that's exciting. And

1083
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:03.599
<v Speaker 3>again I know this is this is a movie that

1084
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Brendan Fraser, once he got that Oscar gold, he was

1085
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.400
<v Speaker 3>like putting his weight behind getting another Mummy made, which

1086
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.159
<v Speaker 3>is awesome. I know.

1087
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:14.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't want these people dragged over to

1088
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:17.679
<v Speaker 2>this thing like Okay, I gotta put on the bandelier

1089
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:19.559
<v Speaker 2>again and what am I doing? But it's like, if

1090
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 2>this is something they're passionate about, that's exciting.

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00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:27.760
<v Speaker 3>It is so I'm excited to see it. I'm hoping

1092
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:29.719
<v Speaker 3>it's good. I hope, I hope it's I hope you

1093
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.079
<v Speaker 3>and I have a different experience than Crystal Skull. But

1094
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 3>what's helpful is we're not I don't think. Well, I

1095
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 3>can't speak for you. We're not as invested in this, right, Yeah, No,

1096
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 3>it's not the same as Indy was for us.

1097
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Correct, correct, Which is kind of a nice place to be,

1098
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I think, because I'm excited to see a dusty adventure

1099
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 2>in the desert.

1100
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:51.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just that.

1101
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to see that. I like Brendan Fraser and

1102
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Rachel Viiz, and I don't have the pressure, you know,

1103
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:00.679
<v Speaker 2>the fandom pressure that other people might have. So I'm

1104
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:02.599
<v Speaker 2>just ready to show up with my popcorn and hoping

1105
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:03.239
<v Speaker 2>to have a good time.

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00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:07.119
<v Speaker 3>See. The question is do we get like m O

1107
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 3>tep back and you know, uh, you know, Odeed Fair

1108
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:13.400
<v Speaker 3>and all. I call them all, all the all the

1109
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 3>other peeps who were who were you know in the

1110
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Two Good Ones?

1111
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I wonder Emo Tet By the way, I can't remember

1112
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 2>the actor's name. I know Arnold Vasselou. Yes, it was

1113
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 2>in Blood Diamond last night. There you gotta look at that,

1114
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.039
<v Speaker 2>which is very cool to see him.

1115
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Also bye, by way of just our own, our own,

1116
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:32.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, this little peak behind the scenes, we got

1117
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:35.280
<v Speaker 3>our Mummy Returns commentary coming up in the in the

1118
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:38.480
<v Speaker 3>next several weeks. I suspect I can't.

1119
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Wait because I know the first one pretty well, but

1120
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the sequels very well.

1121
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:46.639
<v Speaker 3>They are re releasing The Mummy Returns to theaters next month,

1122
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:50.320
<v Speaker 3>so we you know, we may have a commentary to

1123
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:58.280
<v Speaker 3>tie tie into that. Maybe maybe. All Right, this this

1124
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:01.280
<v Speaker 3>last several week and a half or so has been

1125
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of remarkable in that a lot of really familiar

1126
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:11.920
<v Speaker 3>faces have have been have been leaving us in rapid succession.

1127
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 3>It feels like, right, I almost I don't know what

1128
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 3>order to go in here, I know, I know, And.

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01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's just been a crazy year so far,

1130
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean we're just talking about losing Catherine

1131
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a Heara, you know, and it's yeah, and then just

1132
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.880
<v Speaker 2>all these people. It's it's a lot, it's a lot

1133
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:34.480
<v Speaker 2>to cover and reflect on.

1134
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 3>But well, well let's start. Well, let's start with James

1135
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:44.159
<v Speaker 3>van Derbeek. He passed away of colon cancer. Yeah, and

1136
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:50.519
<v Speaker 3>he was only forty eight. Wow. This is I mean,

1137
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 3>this is something that we have been seeing over the

1138
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 3>last year or so because he you know, whenever he

1139
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:04.800
<v Speaker 3>made appearances, he looked very thin, you know, and it

1140
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 3>was known at the time that that he was you know,

1141
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:09.360
<v Speaker 3>that he was dealing with this. But I mean, James

1142
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.639
<v Speaker 3>vanderk obviously most well known for Dawson's Creek. He is

1143
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Dawson of the Creek, yep, you know. And so I

1144
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:19.880
<v Speaker 3>and I know I can speak for you on this.

1145
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean that show was a pretty formative part of

1146
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:26.039
<v Speaker 3>our late teens, you know, definitely.

1147
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean it came out, let's see, when I was eighteen,

1148
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:32.559
<v Speaker 2>and it was about like a film loving kid who

1149
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:35.239
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a filmmaker who idolized Steven Spielberg.

1150
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:36.079
<v Speaker 3>Yep, you know.

1151
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean I very much identified with him, and gosh,

1152
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean Katie Holmes and Joshua Jackson, Michelle Williams. I

1153
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.199
<v Speaker 2>mean it was stacked, that's yeah, with talent and just

1154
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:50.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know what it would be like

1155
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:55.639
<v Speaker 2>to revisit it now, but when we were teenagers, you know,

1156
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.679
<v Speaker 2>it hit just right, you know, and he was perfect

1157
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:03.239
<v Speaker 2>at playing that sort of naive kind of kid, you know.

1158
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:05.599
<v Speaker 2>What I mean, like he embodied that character so perfectly

1159
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:08.159
<v Speaker 2>where that character could be kind of annoying or pretentious

1160
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:11.000
<v Speaker 2>or you know whatever, Like he just felt wholesome and

1161
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 2>someone you liked and rooted for.

1162
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I think that what he did on

1163
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:24.079
<v Speaker 3>the show was sort of deceptively difficult, right in that

1164
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:27.480
<v Speaker 3>he kind of is the straight man, right sure, and

1165
01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 3>so you know, Pacey gets some of the showier storylines

1166
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:36.480
<v Speaker 3>and you know, he you know, he very well could

1167
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:38.880
<v Speaker 3>have just blended into the background, you know, but when

1168
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.400
<v Speaker 3>you think about it, I mean he held the center together.

1169
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's a good observation.

1170
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, Yeah, that show. It's I think I mentioned

1171
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:52.599
<v Speaker 3>this too before. There was a Simpsons just recently where

1172
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.159
<v Speaker 3>Marge was a super fan of a show I forget

1173
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the title, but it's like a clearly Dawson's Creek. Yeah,

1174
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:06.599
<v Speaker 3>and like Lisa discovers Marge's like clothing and stuff from

1175
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:08.679
<v Speaker 3>that era, and I'm like, holy shit, we hear now

1176
01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:09.920
<v Speaker 3>that is I.

1177
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Don't even understand that because to me, they're like baby boomers, right,

1178
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:16.559
<v Speaker 2>So it's weird to think that Marge right now is

1179
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:21.119
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be someone who is my age, right, you know,

1180
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, no, no, no, She's like she's like

1181
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.280
<v Speaker 2>my mom, Like I don't understand.

1182
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But in addition to his appearances on Dawson's Creek,

1183
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:35.440
<v Speaker 3>which lasted for was it five five seasons?

1184
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, I'm seing one hundred and twenty eight

1185
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:39.000
<v Speaker 2>episodes quite a bit.

1186
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:42.639
<v Speaker 3>Man shows used to last that long. Yeah, you know,

1187
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:47.519
<v Speaker 3>uh he he had a well okay, well he played himself.

1188
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:49.639
<v Speaker 3>He had a very He had two funny cameos in

1189
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:52.159
<v Speaker 3>two Kevin Smith movies like like twenty Years wor right

1190
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah right Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Jay

1191
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:57.800
<v Speaker 3>and Silent Bob Reboot, where he plays himself as the

1192
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:03.159
<v Speaker 3>as as playing Bluntman or Chronic. I don't know who's

1193
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:05.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who's who. I forget Chronic, I think.

1194
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:08.280
<v Speaker 3>But there was a show he was on which was

1195
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.599
<v Speaker 3>very funny called Don't Trust the be An Apartment twenty

1196
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:15.880
<v Speaker 3>three I remember this, yeah, which he was the like

1197
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.639
<v Speaker 3>the end, and he played himself. He was like a

1198
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:20.679
<v Speaker 3>douchebag version of himself, right right, very funny. But it

1199
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:27.079
<v Speaker 3>starred Christian Ritter and and that was when I saw that,

1200
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.000
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, man, this guy he's like, you know,

1201
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.320
<v Speaker 3>he he's very funny, Like I didn't really realize that,

1202
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, and.

1203
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:35.960
<v Speaker 2>He continues to be a welcome presence.

1204
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Well he was being a welcome presence. He was on

1205
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.440
<v Speaker 3>CSI Cyber he was the secondary lead.

1206
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't even know this.

1207
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:47.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. The show starred Patricia ar Kent Okay fresh

1208
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:52.519
<v Speaker 3>offer Oscar for Boyhood, I think, and and Vanderbeek was like, like,

1209
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:56.360
<v Speaker 3>you talk about that's the job for this guy. He

1210
01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:00.840
<v Speaker 3>should be procedural guy. Sure that that would be you know,

1211
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:04.599
<v Speaker 3>if if not for you know, freaking cancer, that would

1212
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:06.519
<v Speaker 3>be the career he should be having. You know, just

1213
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:11.119
<v Speaker 3>he's he's on you know, nine on one Brooklyn or whatever, you.

1214
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Know, totally and as he ages, I mean he's always

1215
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.360
<v Speaker 2>like remain handsome, but like get a little more wrinkles

1216
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and age on his face, and like I can totally

1217
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 2>see him with like a gun on his hip. Yeah

1218
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:21.280
<v Speaker 2>even the day Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

1219
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.679
<v Speaker 3>A lot of terrific remembrances of him that I saw

1220
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:28.000
<v Speaker 3>about one in particular that that struck me was from

1221
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.280
<v Speaker 3>from John Wesley Ship, who played his father on Dawson's Creek,

1222
01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:35.719
<v Speaker 3>just talking about you know, the way they learn from

1223
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.760
<v Speaker 3>each other, and it was very poignant. I'm not going

1224
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:42.559
<v Speaker 3>to try to paraphrase it, but one thing I he

1225
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.000
<v Speaker 3>at the start of his post, He's like, I waited

1226
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.840
<v Speaker 3>a few days to post this because I wanted to,

1227
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:51.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, let his family have their time or whatever.

1228
01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 3>And I was just thinking, like, isn't it sad that

1229
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:56.559
<v Speaker 3>like you have to post something like that now so

1230
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:58.679
<v Speaker 3>that people aren't like, weren't you saying anything? Because the

1231
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:02.559
<v Speaker 3>only metric of more is if you say something in public, right, right?

1232
01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 3>You know? Yeah? Yeah, but yes, James Vanderbeek colorectal cancer.

1233
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:10.400
<v Speaker 3>He passed away from.

1234
01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wait, did you mention Varsity Blues?

1235
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:15.599
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I feel like we I totally did

1236
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:16.880
<v Speaker 3>not mention Varsity Blues.

1237
01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was big too. That was nineteen ninety nine,

1238
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:22.119
<v Speaker 2>so right after Dawson's Creek Exploded out of the Gate.

1239
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean that was that was a very memorable teen movie.

1240
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I think for us at the time.

1241
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:27.119
<v Speaker 3>I like that movie.

1242
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 2>You too, I curious to go back to that. I

1243
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.199
<v Speaker 2>don't want your life, that's right.

1244
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:33.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean a lot, a lot of a lot of

1245
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 3>mileage out of out of poking fun of that delivery yeah, Yeah,

1246
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:40.519
<v Speaker 3>I expect that we'll be we'll be talking through that

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01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:41.320
<v Speaker 3>one at some point.

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01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be a good one. That'd be like a

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01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:43.920
<v Speaker 2>little time capsule, I think.

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01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, it came out within weeks of She's All

1251
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:50.719
<v Speaker 3>That Mmm, so it was either either She's All That

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01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:53.800
<v Speaker 3>first or Varsity, but there within within a few weeks

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01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:56.079
<v Speaker 3>of each other. So so I feel like I kind

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01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.800
<v Speaker 3>of went wed those two together weirdly, that's funny.

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01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.760
<v Speaker 2>I remember the trailer and the film itself used Foo

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01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:03.559
<v Speaker 2>Fighters my hero.

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01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right.

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01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:06.639
<v Speaker 2>It was like a really tied with that movie, and

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01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that song, I could be wrong. I

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01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:13.119
<v Speaker 2>feel like it kind of blew up because as a

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01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:15.159
<v Speaker 2>result of that, you know, being tied with this big movie,

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01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I will.

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01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Forever associate that song with Dwayne Johnson and Sam Jackson

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01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:22.639
<v Speaker 3>jumping off a building to their deaths right right in

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01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:26.639
<v Speaker 3>the other guys, which I think I've said this before.

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01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:31.159
<v Speaker 3>I I don't think I ever laughed so hard that,

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01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:34.000
<v Speaker 3>like my stomach was hurting, like I doubled over in pain,

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01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:37.559
<v Speaker 3>not in laughter, because I was laughing so hard at that. Yeah,

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01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:39.719
<v Speaker 3>every time I put I'll put on that clip and

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01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:40.960
<v Speaker 3>AM and I was like, why do you put this on?

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01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it is so funny. I think it's one

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01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:46.639
<v Speaker 3>of the funniest things I've ever seen.

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01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, James Vanderbeek, he will be missed. Who else? Uh

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01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:59.159
<v Speaker 3>tom noonan yep, so tom Noonan. First time I saw

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01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:02.079
<v Speaker 3>him was was as the bad guy in Robo Cop two.

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01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh for me, it was as the bad guy in

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01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Last Action Hero Last Action.

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01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:09.559
<v Speaker 3>But before that he was Frankenstein monster in Monster Squad.

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01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I take it back.

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01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:12.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and he's so good in that movie. I know,

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01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:19.000
<v Speaker 2>there's like, you know, that's a movie that hasn't quite

1284
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.880
<v Speaker 2>lived on like the Goonies has, and I think parts

1285
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:24.880
<v Speaker 2>of it haven't aged as well. But yeah, that was

1286
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:26.840
<v Speaker 2>a huge sleepover movie.

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01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, big times.

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01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:29.920
<v Speaker 2>And I I mean that's like we're having a sleepover

1289
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:33.680
<v Speaker 2>ago rent Monster Squad and yeah, Frankenstein. It's it's like

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01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.399
<v Speaker 2>all the universal monsters descend on this town and these

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01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:39.640
<v Speaker 2>kids fight them off. And Frankenstein is actually a sweet character,

1292
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that's right, you know. And there's like this really sad

1293
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.680
<v Speaker 2>moment when the little sister who's been bonding with Frankenstein

1294
01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:47.560
<v Speaker 2>the whole movie has to say Goodbye to him, and wow,

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01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:48.039
<v Speaker 2>yeah he was.

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01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:52.119
<v Speaker 3>He was terrific in that. Yeah, in RoboCop too. And

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01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:54.239
<v Speaker 3>this is something you know, like five years ago whenever

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01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:55.680
<v Speaker 3>it was. When we did the commentary, I made the

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01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:58.680
<v Speaker 3>point where like, he's he's he's such a great presence

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01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:03.319
<v Speaker 3>that the movie does this stupid thing where like two

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01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:06.880
<v Speaker 3>thirds of the way through his character becomes that that

1302
01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:10.760
<v Speaker 3>automaton and so you just move tom Noonan off the

1303
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 3>stage and you just have this stop motion what's it? Right? Right?

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01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:16.920
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, you have tom Noonan, why wouldn't you

1305
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.560
<v Speaker 3>use him? Uh? Huh? So weird, you know, yeah, because

1306
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.159
<v Speaker 3>there was just you know, I mean in that film.

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01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:26.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's objectively one of the best things about it.

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01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:32.199
<v Speaker 3>He also played the tooth Fairy, Francis Dollar Hide and Manhunter.

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01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, I've never seen man Hunter.

1311
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh you never seen man Hunter? Really? Oh that's a

1312
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:39.960
<v Speaker 3>good one. Yeah. Uh yeah, he's terrificking that.

1313
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:42.560
<v Speaker 2>So Michael Man that's the connection then, huh because he

1314
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 2>was in heat also, that's right, Okay, yeah.

1315
01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:48.800
<v Speaker 3>And really just an interesting dude. You know, I've seen

1316
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:52.479
<v Speaker 3>interviews with him and and it just seems like like

1317
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:58.319
<v Speaker 3>a very wise person, you know. And obviously in addition

1318
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:01.399
<v Speaker 3>to acting, he was also a director. He was also

1319
01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:06.359
<v Speaker 3>a writer, so very very maintained very much of a presence,

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01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:08.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, I got to say he was

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01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:10.840
<v Speaker 3>also actually he was also in have you seen an

1322
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Anomal Lisa? Yes, he was all the voices in Anomal

1323
01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Lisa except for Michael and Lisa. I did not know that.

1324
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I remember getting that as a screener and

1325
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:28.800
<v Speaker 2>watching that and just finding it kind of interesting but

1326
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:33.239
<v Speaker 2>also just weird, weird quite finding my way into it.

1327
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:35.319
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, what a weird movie.

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01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very depressing puppet movie, That's really it. But actually,

1329
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:45.520
<v Speaker 2>what I was going to say, and this kind of

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01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.479
<v Speaker 2>connects with this his voice, Yes, this really he has.

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01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 2>He's very tall and could have a menacing look, yeah

1332
01:10:54.279 --> 01:11:00.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, but he also has this interesting gentle voice. Yeah, yeah,

1333
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:03.520
<v Speaker 2>soothing voice. And that's what I remember about Last Action

1334
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Hero is there's that character the Ripper, the Ripper, right,

1335
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:10.600
<v Speaker 2>and and you know he's got this makeup on that

1336
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.359
<v Speaker 2>makes him look kind of extra scary and whatever, and

1337
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 2>he's got the boy, you know, under his arm. And

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01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I remember when he's the Ripper character tom Noonan is

1339
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.920
<v Speaker 2>talking to Arnold Schwarzenegger's character, you sort of expect like

1340
01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:25.079
<v Speaker 2>a you know, I'll throw him over the edge or

1341
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:27.479
<v Speaker 2>something like that, but it's not that. It's more calm

1342
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:31.600
<v Speaker 2>and soothing and like oh you again, yeah, you know

1343
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:33.880
<v Speaker 2>that kind of a thing. And I'm like, oh, like

1344
01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:38.359
<v Speaker 2>it's worse. It's unnerving hearing that gentle voice come out

1345
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 2>of that scary looking, you know, hulking figure. And he

1346
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:43.680
<v Speaker 2>made a huge impression. When I saw that, I was like,

1347
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:44.439
<v Speaker 2>I guess thirteen.

1348
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:51.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was aged seventy four, and I don't see

1349
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:58.119
<v Speaker 3>a cause of death listed, so I'm not sure. But yeah,

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01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:01.520
<v Speaker 3>like I said, that definitely a very memorable presence, you know,

1351
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I I I think we we we speak often of

1352
01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:08.039
<v Speaker 3>character actors, you know. Uh and, and he was one

1353
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:10.520
<v Speaker 3>of those guys you plugged him in here. He embodied

1354
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:10.920
<v Speaker 3>a type.

1355
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:11.520
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1356
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:16.359
<v Speaker 3>He was actually in a terrific episode of X Files

1357
01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:20.880
<v Speaker 3>called called paper Heart. M hm. That's that's one of

1358
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:23.800
<v Speaker 3>the one of the memorable ones from that run. You know,

1359
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:26.439
<v Speaker 3>there's a there's a few, there's a few memorable ones,

1360
01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.359
<v Speaker 3>but Tom Dinton was good in that one. Uh And

1361
01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:31.920
<v Speaker 3>and yes, as as as we say, all the time.

1362
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:35.000
<v Speaker 3>He will most definitely be missed because movies will be

1363
01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:40.239
<v Speaker 3>lesser without his presence. Who do we want to talk

1364
01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:40.680
<v Speaker 3>about next?

1365
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Brian Eric Dane, Eric Dane, This was this surprising? This

1366
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:48.239
<v Speaker 2>is this yesterday?

1367
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Well it was, I mean it was surprising. I mean

1369
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.159
<v Speaker 3>yes and no, right, because he had been ill for

1370
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:57.279
<v Speaker 3>a little while. Well, I I guess I feel dead sayings.

1371
01:12:57.319 --> 01:13:00.279
<v Speaker 3>I did not know that, so really no, yeah, so

1372
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:03.880
<v Speaker 3>so Eric Dane. Of course, he he kind of hit

1373
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:08.359
<v Speaker 3>the Zeitgey's just dead center thanks to being mc steamy

1374
01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:12.439
<v Speaker 3>on Gray's Anatomy. Right, he was introduced to the world

1375
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:16.520
<v Speaker 3>wearing it nothing but a towel. You know. First time

1376
01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I saw him actually was in X Men The Last Stand.

1377
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 3>He played multiple man.

1378
01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so I guess that'd be me too.

1379
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, although I mean obviously I didn't. I didn't connect

1380
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:28.479
<v Speaker 3>those dots. But yes, he was mc steem. Actually we

1381
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:32.039
<v Speaker 3>saw him in just I guess it's his last last

1382
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 3>movie role, right, bad Boys, Ride or Die? That's right.

1383
01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:39.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Actually, as I was googling him and just looking

1384
01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:43.279
<v Speaker 2>up things, I saw that Sony already had a video

1385
01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:46.720
<v Speaker 2>that's called Remembering Eric Dane as James McGrath Bad Boys

1386
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Rider Die, and it's just kind of a you know,

1387
01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:51.800
<v Speaker 2>a reel of his moments from that movie.

1388
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely. I mean I remember him being quite quite

1389
01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:01.720
<v Speaker 3>a presence in that film. So he A year ago,

1390
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:08.560
<v Speaker 3>he announced that he had been diagnosed with als Luke

1391
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Garrig's disease. He had begun experiencing symptoms in early twenty

1392
01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:13.399
<v Speaker 3>twenty five. By June twenty twenty five, I mean, this

1393
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:15.840
<v Speaker 3>happened so to your point, I mean, this happened very quickly.

1394
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:19.560
<v Speaker 3>By June twenty twenty five, he'd completely lost the use

1395
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:21.239
<v Speaker 3>of his right arm and hand, and he began using

1396
01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:24.680
<v Speaker 3>a wheelchair in full time by October twenty twenty five,

1397
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:34.880
<v Speaker 3>So basically and under a year. I mean that's he's

1398
01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:39.039
<v Speaker 3>fifty three, which is not that far from where we are,

1399
01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:46.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, and to see somebody so you know, with

1400
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:50.079
<v Speaker 3>such a presence, you know, with such confidence and just

1401
01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:52.119
<v Speaker 3>have that sort of whittled way. I mean. I saw

1402
01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:58.119
<v Speaker 3>a video he recorded called it was an interview for

1403
01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.720
<v Speaker 3>a Netflix thing. Did you see this? I heard about this, Yeah,

1404
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:07.399
<v Speaker 3>it's called It's called Famous Last Words. Basically, the show

1405
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:10.279
<v Speaker 3>consists of an interview with with a notable figure explicitly

1406
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:14.359
<v Speaker 3>only published posthumously, allowing the interviewee to tell their own

1407
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:15.960
<v Speaker 3>message after after their death.

1408
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Every episode.

1409
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Is that?

1410
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, interesting?

1411
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:25.520
<v Speaker 3>So the interview. I don't know when the interview was conducted,

1412
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.239
<v Speaker 3>but I've seen clips and I mean it's it's very

1413
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 3>hard to fully make out what he's saying, you know, yeah,

1414
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:38.039
<v Speaker 3>I say, yeah, he's talking to his daughters. I mean

1415
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:42.680
<v Speaker 3>it's it's I mean, I can't even imagine, you know, no,

1416
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:49.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to imagine it, but but I look,

1417
01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:54.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just it. We don't we don't have

1418
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.399
<v Speaker 3>a lot of time under the best of circumstances. And

1419
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 3>something like what James Vanderbeek went through, something like what

1420
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:05.439
<v Speaker 3>Eric Dane went through, you make it makes you realize,

1421
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:12.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, not everybody gets even the best circumstances, right,

1422
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's weird. It's weird to think about that, right,

1423
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Like I certainly, well, I'll speak for myself, you know,

1424
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:25.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm look staring at fifty right. And one thing

1425
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I used to do a lot is when I would

1426
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:28.880
<v Speaker 3>hit a certain age milestone, I would double it and

1427
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:30.880
<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, where am I at this stage? So

1428
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.119
<v Speaker 3>I turned forty I'm like, where am I at eighty? Right? Right?

1429
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And now it's like where am I?

1430
01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

1431
01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Probably not around you know, right right, And again that's

1432
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:46.920
<v Speaker 3>the best circumstances. Fifty three that is too soon. Yes,

1433
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:52.840
<v Speaker 3>forty eight that's certainly too soon. Ye you know, yeah,

1434
01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:54.720
<v Speaker 3>I guess I don't know. Those are the thoughts that

1435
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:56.119
<v Speaker 3>are going through my mind anyway.

1436
01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I mean it makes me think, you know,

1437
01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:01.960
<v Speaker 2>it isn't always easy, but you know, be thankful for

1438
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:02.439
<v Speaker 2>each day.

1439
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, yeah, very true.

1440
01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:08.239
<v Speaker 1>With that.

1441
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:11.359
<v Speaker 3>A legend, I think we can call him a legend,

1442
01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:15.039
<v Speaker 3>right right. Robert Duval passed away this past week at

1443
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:22.840
<v Speaker 3>age ninety five. Ninety five, so a long, impressive life, certainly.

1444
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's somebody. It's it's weird we're at that

1445
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:31.119
<v Speaker 3>stage now where the like that class of actors is

1446
01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:33.359
<v Speaker 3>starting to leave, right. They were like the new young

1447
01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:38.600
<v Speaker 3>generation during the seventies and eighties, you know, and so

1448
01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:40.399
<v Speaker 3>by the time we were growing up, they were like

1449
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:45.359
<v Speaker 3>the established stars, right, yes, you know, so like Diane Keaton,

1450
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Robert Radford, you know, James Kahn, and now of course

1451
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Robert Duvall. You know, it's weird to watch the Godfather

1452
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:59.199
<v Speaker 3>and realize that, like when you watch that dinner scene

1453
01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:05.399
<v Speaker 3>in Godfather Part two, the flashback, you know, you're like, gosh,

1454
01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:08.079
<v Speaker 3>everybody here is gone, you know, Michael is the only

1455
01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:08.840
<v Speaker 3>one left, you know.

1456
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's I like how you said that. That's

1457
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:16.079
<v Speaker 2>so true like our experience with with actors of that

1458
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:19.560
<v Speaker 2>generation because they were cemented before us, you know, Devall

1459
01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:23.399
<v Speaker 2>and Godfather, Apocalypse Now. Yeah, but then as we were

1460
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:26.560
<v Speaker 2>growing up, they would be and gone in sixty seconds,

1461
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:30.439
<v Speaker 2>right or days of thunder exactly, and it was just

1462
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:32.920
<v Speaker 2>like instant gravitas exactly.

1463
01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1464
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you know obviously, like you

1465
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:41.079
<v Speaker 3>mentioned the great roles, right, like Godfather one, Godfather too,

1466
01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Apocalypse Now obviously you know Apocalypse Now that was the

1467
01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:46.119
<v Speaker 3>number one movie in the country the week that I

1468
01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:49.159
<v Speaker 3>was born. Oh wow, So I have a weird connection

1469
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:52.680
<v Speaker 3>with that film, right. And Colonel Kilgore, it's not just

1470
01:18:52.840 --> 01:18:56.479
<v Speaker 3>his dialogue, it's the way Duval says it that makes

1471
01:18:56.520 --> 01:19:00.680
<v Speaker 3>it memorable. You know, I've said this before. I interviewed

1472
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:03.600
<v Speaker 3>David Dobkin about ten or twelve years ago about the

1473
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:07.680
<v Speaker 3>movie The Judge, which starred Robert Downey Junior and Robert

1474
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Duval and and I remember being like, how did you

1475
01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:13.600
<v Speaker 3>stop yourself from just like standing back and just watching

1476
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:16.119
<v Speaker 3>these people act? You know, you have a scene with

1477
01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:20.800
<v Speaker 3>with with with Downey and Duval, what do you even direct?

1478
01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.359
<v Speaker 3>You know? Right? And He's like, oh no, you know

1479
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:25.960
<v Speaker 3>they would take direction, and they would you know, we

1480
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:28.600
<v Speaker 3>had conversations about it, but but I just remember, you know, like,

1481
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:30.159
<v Speaker 3>what a what a moment, what a thing you got

1482
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:30.520
<v Speaker 3>to see?

1483
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1484
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:33.640
<v Speaker 3>But one movie I've been thinking about a lot over

1485
01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:35.800
<v Speaker 3>last week is is Deep Impact.

1486
01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, which you know got a little lost I

1487
01:19:42.680 --> 01:19:45.680
<v Speaker 2>think when it came out because it was in a

1488
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:50.439
<v Speaker 2>way competing with the other meteorite movie, Army Nah, you know,

1489
01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and that ye figure, a bombastic one that had the

1490
01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.439
<v Speaker 2>hit song from Arrowsmith, you know what I mean, and

1491
01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:58.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of they weren't memorable at the time, but

1492
01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:03.680
<v Speaker 2>memorable moments, you know. And but that was the more

1493
01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:08.399
<v Speaker 2>dramatic and possibly you know, more thoughtful what if a

1494
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:09.920
<v Speaker 2>meteorite was headed toward earth film?

1495
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:13.680
<v Speaker 3>That's right? Yeah, And you know, I think arm Again.

1496
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:15.640
<v Speaker 3>I think they both ended up doing well, but like

1497
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:18.439
<v Speaker 3>arm Again certainly did better. I would say that probably

1498
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Deep Impact is the better one.

1499
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it since it came out.

1500
01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's I haven't seen the whole thing, you know,

1501
01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:29.439
<v Speaker 3>in more than twenty years. But anyway, my point is

1502
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Duval you talk, you said it yourself, right, It's just

1503
01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:36.640
<v Speaker 3>instant gravitas. He plays one of the astronauts who who's

1504
01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:40.680
<v Speaker 3>tasked with you know, you know, they have to they

1505
01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:44.560
<v Speaker 3>have to try to destroy the asteroid or whatever it is.

1506
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And it's I think that is the first time I

1507
01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:53.279
<v Speaker 3>saw Duval in a movie where I was really just

1508
01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:55.760
<v Speaker 3>just paying attention to his performance and what he does

1509
01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:58.960
<v Speaker 3>and how he he He had he always had this

1510
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:04.399
<v Speaker 3>lane where he brought reality to it and and just

1511
01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:09.159
<v Speaker 3>a sense of I'm improving this movie just by being

1512
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:12.800
<v Speaker 3>here m hm, even if obviously he wouldn't articulating it

1513
01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:15.920
<v Speaker 3>that way, but really that's how much his presence meant. Yeah.

1514
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is like a non performative like salt of

1515
01:21:18.680 --> 01:21:21.520
<v Speaker 2>the earth quality. He just exuded that, and that's what

1516
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.319
<v Speaker 2>he brought into whatever he was acting in.

1517
01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:25.520
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly it.

1518
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just you know everything.

1519
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and and so for me, deep impact was was

1520
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:33.279
<v Speaker 3>when I really became aware of that. And then shortly

1521
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:35.560
<v Speaker 3>after that, you know, I watched the Godfather films for

1522
01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:37.439
<v Speaker 3>the first time and whatever, and you really you become

1523
01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:40.520
<v Speaker 3>aware of like, man, what a oh and I forgot network.

1524
01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:41.840
<v Speaker 3>He's fantastic in network.

1525
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1526
01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's so good in that.

1527
01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right.

1528
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's just like these people who were

1529
01:21:48.159 --> 01:21:52.439
<v Speaker 3>a consistent presence throughout our childhoods well into our adult years.

1530
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:56.840
<v Speaker 3>M hm. Again it's just Diane Keaton, you know, read

1531
01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:58.560
<v Speaker 3>for like, it's just that you're like, no, they're they're

1532
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:02.000
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be here forever. Mm hmmmm hmm, like they're

1533
01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:05.640
<v Speaker 3>supposed to outlast us. Yeah.

1534
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it's funny. I had something I want

1535
01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:09.800
<v Speaker 2>to say, but you just made me think of something

1536
01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:11.800
<v Speaker 2>else I wanted to say, which was I was listening

1537
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to another podcast and they were talking about Duval's passing

1538
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:18.479
<v Speaker 2>and they were saying, do we have any new Duvals?

1539
01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're not gonna know for another fifteen twenty two.

1540
01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:25.439
<v Speaker 2>That's very true, but you know, it kind of made

1541
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:27.760
<v Speaker 2>me think, and I'm sure there are some people that will,

1542
01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:30.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, age into that gravy toes and like you said,

1543
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>we can't see it in this moment. But the thing

1544
01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:39.760
<v Speaker 2>that it made me think, I maybe we won't get

1545
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:43.239
<v Speaker 2>as many because you hear this a lot when they

1546
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:46.239
<v Speaker 2>cast movies these days, they're looking at social media as

1547
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:47.479
<v Speaker 2>a criteria.

1548
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Wow for casting choices. Yeah, and.

1549
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Would someone like a Duval who can deliver what he does?

1550
01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, does that person like have twenty million followers

1551
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:02.760
<v Speaker 2>on social media? So do they get cast at all?

1552
01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:06.000
<v Speaker 2>These days? You know, like, are casting trends going to

1553
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:10.159
<v Speaker 2>prevent us from getting credible Assault of the Earth type

1554
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:15.079
<v Speaker 2>actors like this? You know, I hope not. I hope

1555
01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:17.479
<v Speaker 2>it's a thought I had though that's thinking about that.

1556
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Well that's sobering.

1557
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, well, I you know, I hope not. I mean,

1558
01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:24.600
<v Speaker 2>we got like it's a little different. But are Jesse

1559
01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Plemons type actors who just continued to show up? And

1560
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:30.920
<v Speaker 2>it feels like even though I don't know if he

1561
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:33.359
<v Speaker 2>has social media, I'm not aware of it, but it

1562
01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:37.880
<v Speaker 2>seems like most people recognize that he's special and Jesse Clemmons, Yeah,

1563
01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Jesse Plemmons, and he brings that sort of unique thing

1564
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:42.880
<v Speaker 2>to everything that he's a part of. You know, you

1565
01:23:42.960 --> 01:23:43.800
<v Speaker 2>know that gives me hope.

1566
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:48.680
<v Speaker 3>So uh. In terms of Robert Duvall performances, we mentioned

1567
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:51.600
<v Speaker 3>a few, obviously. Are there any that that we we

1568
01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:53.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't mention that you thought were worth shouting out.

1569
01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I have to call out Lucky you. Ah, Yes,

1570
01:23:58.000 --> 01:23:59.760
<v Speaker 2>of course, which is a movie I worked on. It

1571
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:02.760
<v Speaker 2>was directed by Curtis Hansen, started Eric Banna, Drew Barrymore,

1572
01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:06.479
<v Speaker 2>and Robert Duval. Robert Duval played Eric Banna's dad, And

1573
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:08.800
<v Speaker 2>that was a movie that, sadly, I mean when it

1574
01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>came out. I worked on that, you know, for like

1575
01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a year and it came out and just did not

1576
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:18.600
<v Speaker 2>hit and it's kind of been lost to the ages,

1577
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:22.960
<v Speaker 2>but it is and it's not a very no pun

1578
01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:27.560
<v Speaker 2>intended because it's about poker, high stakes kind of you

1579
01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:30.960
<v Speaker 2>know film, but it is a very lovely character drama

1580
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know, don't go in expecting big punchy moments.

1581
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>But there's good acting. It's it's it's nice ing everyone

1582
01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:42.880
<v Speaker 2>acting against one another. And I had a good time

1583
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:46.079
<v Speaker 2>working on it. And I actually got to meet Duvall

1584
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:50.239
<v Speaker 2>working on that, and not like you shared any big moments,

1585
01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:52.720
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I was kind of like a like

1586
01:24:52.800 --> 01:24:55.199
<v Speaker 2>a PA on that movie, and so a lot of

1587
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>times I would have to deliver things to people, to actors,

1588
01:24:57.640 --> 01:24:59.760
<v Speaker 2>to directors to whatever. And I remember he would he

1589
01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:02.600
<v Speaker 2>had a chair, you know, on the side of the stage,

1590
01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:04.359
<v Speaker 2>and he was sitting there with his wife who was

1591
01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:07.399
<v Speaker 2>there by his side, and just hand him things and whatever,

1592
01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:10.640
<v Speaker 2>oh thank you, you know, kind of a polite nice

1593
01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:12.560
<v Speaker 2>and I knew he was a legend in that moment.

1594
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:16.159
<v Speaker 2>And so it's very you know, trying to not behave

1595
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:18.560
<v Speaker 2>like I'm handing a legend, you know, sides for the day,

1596
01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:20.560
<v Speaker 2>like just try to street it like for coworkers, and

1597
01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:23.399
<v Speaker 2>maybe he'll treat me like a coworker. And he was

1598
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:26.199
<v Speaker 2>always great, so it's just like them.

1599
01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:28.119
<v Speaker 3>For a brief moment. You're just kind of grateful to

1600
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:29.359
<v Speaker 3>occupy the same air.

1601
01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, just you know, he's a legend, and it's

1602
01:25:33.479 --> 01:25:35.239
<v Speaker 2>it's cool that I'm getting to be a part of,

1603
01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:38.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, any sort of role in his orbit as

1604
01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>he continues making great things.

1605
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:45.119
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you know, one thing I've said, uh, I mean,

1606
01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:47.359
<v Speaker 3>ever since I first saw god Father three, which is

1607
01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:50.560
<v Speaker 3>a movie I defend, but I'm like, you know, it's

1608
01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:53.600
<v Speaker 3>it's a crime. It's a crime against cinema that duvald

1609
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.319
<v Speaker 3>hasn't in that movie. Yep, yep, it certainly it's a

1610
01:25:56.359 --> 01:25:58.840
<v Speaker 3>crime against that trilogy, you know, and and he he

1611
01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 3>talked about turning it down, which famously he was like,

1612
01:26:03.159 --> 01:26:06.800
<v Speaker 3>just pay me what you're paying Pacino and Diane Keaton

1613
01:26:07.640 --> 01:26:09.520
<v Speaker 3>and they were like no, and He's like, okay, so yeah,

1614
01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:11.439
<v Speaker 3>m hm right. And I say this all the time.

1615
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, they should have paid him.

1616
01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>And in making that decision, they helped to contribute to

1617
01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.560
<v Speaker 2>one example that always gets brought up as one of

1618
01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the worst sequels. I know, you know what I mean,

1619
01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:26.479
<v Speaker 2>that's something it could have had a trilogy for all time. Yeah,

1620
01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:30.279
<v Speaker 2>but stingy uh, you know, business practice.

1621
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:32.640
<v Speaker 3>He talked about this. This is from when he was

1622
01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:34.319
<v Speaker 3>on the Conan O'Brien show, and this is in the

1623
01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:40.159
<v Speaker 3>nineties and I'm conveying this via Yahoo Entertainment. When asked

1624
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:42.399
<v Speaker 3>what led him to let him turning down the chance

1625
01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.279
<v Speaker 3>to return, Duval said, the per diem wasn't right, the

1626
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:48.560
<v Speaker 3>per diem wasn't high enough. Everybody was doing it for money.

1627
01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Everybody was doing it for money, so you know, pay,

1628
01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:54.720
<v Speaker 3>They're not gonna pay. I'm not gonna do it because

1629
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:57.119
<v Speaker 3>everybody's doing it for that. Why kids yourself, now, can't

1630
01:26:57.119 --> 01:26:59.279
<v Speaker 3>you just hear it? In his voice. Yes, yeah, yeah,

1631
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:04.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean it's it's it's it's one of

1632
01:27:04.840 --> 01:27:07.359
<v Speaker 3>the great mistakes of the ages because to your point, yeah,

1633
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think sort of uh to dismiss Tom

1634
01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:15.199
<v Speaker 3>Hagen with the line of dialogue. Oh, by the way,

1635
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Tom died anyway.

1636
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, right, but he returned to his planet.

1637
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, it's it's just baffling. Of course, you

1638
01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:26.439
<v Speaker 3>got to mention he his first role wordless. Yes, of

1639
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.920
<v Speaker 3>course he was bou Radley, that's right, in To Kill

1640
01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:31.520
<v Speaker 3>a Mockingbird.

1641
01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Incredible, incredible, you know, it's like you said, no dialogue.

1642
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.800
<v Speaker 3>No dialogue, his eyes did the acting, and and and

1643
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:42.000
<v Speaker 3>what a career. And of course he started in THHX

1644
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:42.760
<v Speaker 3>eleven thirty eight.

1645
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. Yeah, George's first feature length movie.

1646
01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:50.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, remarkable, you know, what a career. And and ultimately, look,

1647
01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:52.600
<v Speaker 3>he's been part of so many different types of movies

1648
01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:55.640
<v Speaker 3>over so many decades. People will be watching his work

1649
01:27:56.319 --> 01:27:57.119
<v Speaker 3>until the end of time.

1650
01:27:57.479 --> 01:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Hm.

1651
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:01.000
<v Speaker 3>One last thing I want to mention, I almost completed,

1652
01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:05.000
<v Speaker 3>in my mind, in my opinion, his best performance. And

1653
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:07.640
<v Speaker 3>I think he felt the same way. He played Augustus

1654
01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:10.720
<v Speaker 3>McCrae in Lonesome Dove.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was just scrolling through his IMDb and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought i'd bring that up because I know you've

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it before and that is a blind spot for

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01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:18.279
<v Speaker 2>me that I need to.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a great miniseries waiting for you. Yeah, oh

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01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:25.399
<v Speaker 3>my god, I love that that mini series, Tommy Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about this, Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duval playing

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01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:32.720
<v Speaker 3>ranchers and they're just playing off each other. Sign me

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01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:36.119
<v Speaker 3>up six hours of that, right, I know Danny Glover's

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01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:41.520
<v Speaker 3>in there, Robert Urick angelic at Houston. Wow, Diane Lane,

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01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:43.840
<v Speaker 3>it's a great It's stacked. Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I it came out and see in nineteen eighty nine,

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01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>so I might have just been too young to catch

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<v Speaker 2>it when it aired. But now now we have everything

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01:28:52.479 --> 01:28:53.159
<v Speaker 2>at our fingertips.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have something special waiting for you. You need.

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01:28:57.640 --> 01:28:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I want you to report back after you watch Lonesome Dove.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, And by the way, I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>one more thing because you reminded me duvall on Conan

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<v Speaker 2>O'Brien speaking of this is.

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<v Speaker 3>So funny you sent this to me. Yes, this what

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<v Speaker 3>I love is too.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Duval like plays a lot of like serious parts,

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01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:14.840
<v Speaker 2>and you could think that maybe he's a self serious person,

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<v Speaker 2>but not the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.800
<v Speaker 2>He's a guest on Conan O'Brien, and Connor's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you know. With the DVD release of The

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01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Godfather coming out with all the extras, there's a deleted scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we have a clip here, and basically they

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01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>got Duval and a Vagoda to recreate a scene. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like from Godfather one, you know, where Vogoda's basically being

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<v Speaker 2>sent off to be executed.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, Tom, can you get me off the hook

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<v Speaker 3>for old time sake?

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<v Speaker 2>For old time sake?

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01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, sorry, can't do it, Sally. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But then because they got them back, you know,

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01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:51.039
<v Speaker 2>they recreated this moment. Vagoda's like, what if I bought

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01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:55.439
<v Speaker 2>you a hot dog? Devall's like, sorry, sounds delicious, can't fit.

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01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:57.880
<v Speaker 3>It, you know, like, I'll get your ice cream. You

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01:29:58.199 --> 01:29:59.439
<v Speaker 3>always did have a sweet tooth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fun seeing them be silly together from such

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01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:08.840
<v Speaker 2>an iconic film. Yeah, coming back and recreating those characters

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01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:12.359
<v Speaker 2>to do something silly one night on Conan O'Brien, Yeah, so.

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01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:17.720
<v Speaker 3>I love it. Yeah, Well, certainly Robert Duvall would be missed.

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01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:21.159
<v Speaker 3>But everybody we just spoke of, I mean, they they

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01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:24.079
<v Speaker 3>left a mark, you know, and I think I think

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01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:26.760
<v Speaker 3>their work will continue to be watched and enjoyed for

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<v Speaker 3>for for decades to come.

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01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about like even Eric Dane right, like,

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01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>like if nothing else, he has that slice of Grey's Anatomy,

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01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:41.279
<v Speaker 3>and and people are always watching Gray's Anatomy. I mean

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01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>that show is a juggernaut on streaming, so it's like

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<v Speaker 3>for decades to come, if nothing else, Just that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>any other thoughts, Brian, That's it, But I'm happy we

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01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:56.960
<v Speaker 3>could celebrate those people, I very much, so I agree. Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>let's leave it there. And hey, let us know your

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts about about any of the actors we mentioned. You know,

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01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:04.359
<v Speaker 3>what are your memories, what are your favorite films? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure we miss something or other. You know, let us

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<v Speaker 3>There we go, and if you're looking for me online,

1741
01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:16.840
<v Speaker 3>you can find me on social media at Zakie's corner.

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<v Speaker 3>That's z a k i s Corner. You can also

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01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:21.439
<v Speaker 3>read my reviews at the San Francisco Chronicle and also

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01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:23.760
<v Speaker 3>at The Rap. Coming up, you can read my review

1745
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:27.319
<v Speaker 3>at the Wrap of Marshals. That's the new Yellowstone spinoff

1746
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:31.000
<v Speaker 3>series starring Luke Grimes as his Casey Dutton character. You

1747
01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:33.439
<v Speaker 3>can also read my review of Scrubs at the Chronicle,

1748
01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:38.960
<v Speaker 3>as well as season two of Monarch Legacy of Monsters. Brian,

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01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:39.680
<v Speaker 3>what do you have going on?

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01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>We've been busy.

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01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:43.239
<v Speaker 3>I know it's been a good, good week.

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01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, read all those you can find episodes I've

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01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:51.279
<v Speaker 2>written of Puppy Dog Pals and Young Jedi Adventures streaming

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01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>at Disney Plus.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go, and with that on behalf of my

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01:32:56.359 --> 01:32:58.600
<v Speaker 3>partner Brian Home. My name is Zachie Hassan. This has

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<v Speaker 3>been movie film three thirty seven. We'll catch it next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome friends, it to podcast podcast enjoying the show Jacky

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<v Speaker 1>again Ryan. They're talking about from Baby's Morning Now podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on the Redo