Speaker 1: I've never seen our computer do a forecast on the
country that basically says it will not exist, and that's Ukraine.
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Speaker 3: Than ever, and welcome. This is Financial Survival Network. I'm
your host, Carrie Letz, and we are sitting down with
the esteemed Forecaster I call him the Master Forecaster, Martin Armstrong,
and just completed this book. It's not the final copy.
The printer screwed up, but the copies are on the way,
so this should suffice. And it's called The World according
to Martin Armstrong. Conversations with the Master Forecaster by yours truly,
Carrie Lutz and Martin, And like, I'm really proud of
this book because you know, we all know your milestones,
we all know the things that you've accomplished, the calls
that you have made. But we put it pretty much
from twenty eleven to current everything under one cover. In
your words, I didn't put anything in your in your mouth.
I summarized, I took did key points takeaways for each discussion.
But this really is a testament to you and the
accuracy of your calls. You're not one thousand percent. Nobody is.
But the big ones like breaking the Swiss peg, like
for years you told me that gold was not ready
to do anything, and it hovered around one thousand bucks.
The Dow the biggest one that I came up with,
the first time I think I interviewed you, you said
Dow thirty two thousand, and I'm like, who is this guy?
He's got to be crazy. And then in two thousand
in eighteen, you further clarified the call and said that
daw would be hitting forty five thousand between twenty twenty
two and twenty twenty four, so that's six years before
it happened. Nobody believes this. And then the number of
deep State haters on social media, it shocks me. They're
all phony accounts saying nasty things about you. They don't
know anything. I mean, this book, Martin needed to be written.
Speaker 1: Well. I think that where people need to understand is
that there are two ways to do research. One you
start with a theory and then you go and try
and cherry pick facts to support what you said. And
the other way is you actually just go out to
try and understand how something works, and you bump into
stuff those you can't discover what you already know. So
like you know, Penicillan, you know, discovered by a mistake,
et cetera. What I bumped into shocked me. I mean
because I didn't believe that that would be possible. That okay, fine,
I understood there was a business cycle, but I didn't
know that it would be actually precise, I mean right
down to the day. I mean I did a model
just you know, in twenty two when the Russia Ukraine
event began, and here it projected at a common period
right to the day of May fifteenth, and I was
put out, you know, you know, basically almost three years
in advance. How does the you know, the peace meeting
take place exactly on that day. It baffles me. This
is not my opinion. It's just something that I think
others will maybe you know, explore and more. I mean
often what it is I think is that you know,
people were never appreciated during their lifetime. It's always afterwards,
like you know, Tesla said, oh he was ever, you know,
he tried to help humanity and all he got in
return was insults and humiliation. And it's so true. I mean,
you had Bruno who was burned alive at the stake
because he agreed with Copernicus that the earth went around
the Sun rather than the other way around. They've burned
them the live for that. So you throughout history it's
always been this uh sort of reaction to people, I think,
and in my case it's you know, back in the eighties,
we had a bank in Lebanon and they found the
ledger downstairs with somebody had written down the price of
the Lebanese pan every day to mid eighteen, you know, hundreds.
And they asked if we could build a model. I
said sure, They said it over. We put it in.
When the computer came out and said your country's going
to fall part in eight days, I thought there was
something wrong with the data. I called them. I said, look,
there's something's got to be wrong here. It's such countries
you've got to fall part in eight days. Very calmly
they said, well, walk came and see what would you
recommend and I said, well, it said Swiss Frank. I said,
this very strange conversation. Eight days later the Civil War began.
Then we had a client in Saudi Arabia who was
a big shipper, and he calls and says, Iraq's going
to start attacking shipping the Gulf tomorrow. What do you
think Old's going to do? I see you tell me
a war is going to start tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I began to realize over time that what the
computer was picking up was simply that somebody always knows
there's going to be an event, and they move their
money in events, you know. So we became probably very
famous with the Russian call. I stood up in June
of ninety eight and I said, look, Russia's going to collapse,
and to give it about thirty days and London Financial
Times it's knock in the back room and then they
stick that on the front page. I went, oh my god.
And I was a long term capital management crisis and
all that stuff, and the SEC it up using our
our model looking for people who bo puts on the
airlines a few days before nine to eleven. But there's
always somebody that knows and even if you look at
the harmas attack, the defense stocks started rising about seven,
you know, seven days before. It's just it's very interesting.
But I mean, this is not my opinion. And what
I bumped into is that there is an order to
what it may appear to be, you know, chaos. There
is no such thing as a random walk, you know theory,
that's that's total bullshit. Nothing's random, you know. I learned
that basically in high school, the economics class, they'd say,
everything's random, so we can manipulate. Later. Then he went
to physics class and they said nothing's random. I said,
one of you guys are lying, you know, but it's
so it you know, I want people to understand that. Look,
I discovered something that I didn't think existed, but it
does all the turning points. You take the eighty seven
crash right to the day October nineteenth, that same thing,
just calculating out gives you the exact day of the
high in nineteen ninety eight of July twentieth. Uh you
go further off, it's the exact day of the low
in the stock market in two o two, two oh seven.
It goes up the exact day of the peak and
the show where Real Estate Index. I mean they were
calling that, you know, on the floor Armstrong's revenge. It
it's not coincidence. I mean so many of these things,
you know, even going back in time, I mean the
very day that Hitler becomes chancellor, right on the model
date to the day. So there's I don't know what
it is, but there's something that is there which shows
that if we really understood how the economy works, I
think it's it's more like the biblical story. And maybe
that's the lesson of Joseph telling the Pharaoh there'll be
seven years of drought and seven years of of of plenty.
So if you understand that there are definitive cycles, so
let's do re stockpile your food because you know what's
going to get worse on the other side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so let's bring it to you. Made a
call actually today about Ukraine that it's turning point here.
Are we going to have peace there? Or are we
going to have a world war?
Speaker 1: No? I think world war. You know, Putin didn't show up. Uh,
you know, looking you have to judge things not by
what you think, but what other people think, how they respond,
and look, they suckered Putin in the first time. Uh
with the MINSA greets, Oh, the dumb boss. You should
have a right to vote, crimea, et cetera, to separate.
They're all Russians there, They've been living there for hundreds
of years, crimea. Fifteen percent of the population in Mongol.
There are not Ukrainians there period, right, And in twenty fourteen,
you can look it up the Odessa massacre. As soon
as the revolution took place, what did they do. They
went into a Dessa and we're grabbing any Russians speaking
people off the street, killing them. They ran into the
trade building and they set it on fire and burned
them all lives. You know, the Western press is such
a piece of shit. I mean, if that was Ukrainian,
oh that would be the front page. Oh they're Russians.
Who gives a shit? You know? Okay, the bias in
the press is just so overwhelmingly that all they're doing
is beating the war drums and cheering it me everything.
You know, I just saw one this morning.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Oh, Putin's a walking you know, death band. I mean,
the act is if they have no clue what they're
talking about. Zero Putin is the most responsible guy and
you replace him and you're going to get one of
their neo cards like we have, and then it is
for long. The criticism he gets in Russia is that
he only went in to protect the dumb boss. He
should have gone in and actually going in and taking
all of Ukraine like we did to Iraq, and it
would have been over in three weeks, shock and all.
You know, he didn't want to do that, and it's
you know, all these people, Oh he's evil. This really
you don't know Russia and you expect, you know, you
think that you can just bash Russia all the time.
And those people, I mean, I know some Russians in
an old friend of mine, I met her in Tokyo
when she was a translator back then, so she's not political.
But she asked me a question, why does everybody hate
us so much? You know? And I said, it's what
can I say, It's just, you know, it's ridiculous. It's
because you you know, your country used to be communist.
Now that's about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know. I'm a little more optimistic,
but because but it's certainly the possibility for this thing
to explode. But if the US doesn't jump on the
bandwagon here and lead it. I just don't see Europe
getting their act together and actually actually making this thing explode,
because they can't do it without the US as long
as Trump holds fast. Whether I guess they can do
a false flag go back to the old bag of tricks.
But but you know, I certainly wouldn't doubt that. I
certainly wouldn't doubt your thesis, Martin, I certainly will.
Speaker 1: I also have been talking to people in Romania. They're
going to an election on the eighteenth, and they have
woken up. They're very anti EU. They realize that the
EU doesn't give two shits about Ukrainian people as long
as if they all die fine, as long as they
take a Russian with them, and.
Speaker 3: As they're willing to, that's a risk they're willing to.
Speaker 1: Take, right, Yeah, exactly. And they want to do the
same thing with Romanians and they realize that, and that's
why it's you know, they do not want to go
to war with Russia, but this is what the EU
is pushing, and they're very concerned that they rigged their
last election and he was anti EU, uh and most
people didn't realize what was at stake. NATO's biggest base
was being constructed in Romania so they could attack Russia.
And you know, they feel that they're going to their
country is going to be destroyed, just like Ukraine for what,
you know, and then you have the Europeans. Oh, if
Ukraine falls, he'll come take the rest of Europe. For what.
Europe has nothing, They have no energy, no gold, there's
nothing other than you know, you walk into France and
the French you're going to say, okay, you're here, are
you going to pay our penches? Now? That's it? You know.
The other way around, what I have heard out of
Paris from extremely good sources is that McCrone thinks that
just let all the Ukrainians die and Romanians and kill
as many Russians as possible, and then they can walk
in and take Russia. And then with seventy five trillion
dollars worth of assets, it will be twice the size
the US national debt, and Europe will rise to, you know,
the pinnacle of the world like the Roman Empire again.
And people in government, I can tell you I have
heard them. They call Macron the petit Napoleon res emblance. Yeah,
and then you have you know, this latest thing of
coke and everything else.
Speaker 3: What's that about?
Speaker 1: Well, look, I knew Laura, he was one of my
uh sources in Ukraine. Uh, he told me, Because it's
got to be at least two years ago, if not longer,
that Zilinsky was a cokete.
Speaker 3: Sure it looks like it. It's sure looks yeah sniffing,
he's rubbing his nose. His eyes are like bulging out
of his head. They're glazed. And so you know, one
thing is like, I think the US or Trump would
definitely like to stage a coup in Ukraine and get
him out. But there's echoes of Vietnam and Beyodo. When
we did it there, that was like the beginning of
the end. And nobody has the guts to do it now.
But really, if they if he ever wanted to stage
a coup that would really help things out, that would
be the time.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean May seventh last year, the very day
on Model turned. It was intentive assassination on Zelenski, two
of his colonels. He then fired his his bodyguard. He's
now using British some Americans, I hear, because he doesn't
trust Ukrainians. And I speak to some Ukrainians in the military,
and they basically say if he was on fire, they
wouldn't urinate on him until he was dead. Right, It's
he's just say he could care less about the people.
I mean, he had a piece towen Bars Johnson hopped
on the plane and said, no, you're not allowed that
peace the Ukrainians I speak to, I mean, you know
their country is not being ruled by them. And this
is why Zelenski keeps Marshall All going to prevent anybody
from ever having election because he couldn't possibly win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously he'd be gone, so onto more mundane things.
So the market, you know, you've made the call sixty
two thousand. By twenty thirty two we had the tariff disruption,
which seems to have run its course. What's next for
the for the market, most.
Speaker 1: Of them are and gold. You have to understand that
there is this problem with war in Europe and the
European governments the EU when they were forming it, they
came to me. I met with him back in ninety eight.
I said, okay, fine, this is how we create a currency.
And you know hertmart Cole was the chancellor then, so
he wouldn't you know, he knew that the German people
would never vote to join the Euro and so he
basically took him in without you know, the people being
allowed to vote, and he insisted that there'd be no
consolidation of the debt. And from a trader's perspective, I
can pick up the phone and say buy me ten
billion dollars the treasuries. When it comes to Europe, I'm
still going to make the same decisions as if the
Euro didn't exist. Do I went Germany? Do I went France?
So I went Italy? So you can look, I mean,
people were just trading all the spreads between them. So
all you did was, yes, you created a single currency,
but you didn't do that to the bomb market. So
the problem you have is it exemplify basically by twenty
ten when Greece got in their trouble. As soon as
that happened, the traders went great, made a lot of
money on that. Who's next, Oh, Spain, and they run
over there. This is the problem that because there's no
consolidated debt, one country gets into trouble and it's going
to create a continue you know, a contagion, and then
everybody's going to be looking at the Okay, who's next. Oh,
look at France. They're they're well above Mustard Treaty levels.
You know. I suggest reading Herbert Hoover's memoirs. You can
get them online nineteen thirty one, and he's explaining right
there how things happen exactly the same. He said, capital
acting like on a loose canon or on the deck
of a ship in the middle of a tempest. And
it all started one country defaulting another, Britain defaulted, even
Canada defaulted. So I mean, that's what took down nine
thousand banks, not towers. But this is the same thing.
And what what I mean is that Europe needs war
because their economic system is collapsing. If you just look
at total consumer spending in the world, and this is
why the dour is the reserve currency, forget gold, all
the other nonsense people put out. Out of every dour
a consumer spends in the entire world, twenty five percent
is America, all right, Europe, oh Carneieoh, we'll join with
the EU to hell with the United States. Really, okay,
you better shirt that hell out of Canada. Then the
total consumer spending of all of Europe, all right, is
a dour twenty nine out of ten. They're overregulated, et cetera.
Europe is that the capitalization of the New York Stock
Exchange alone is more than all the exchanges of Europe combined. Wow,
I mean people don't realize Europe is you know, people,
all of the US dollar is going to crash really
all right, you're going to see you know, the US
would be the last to fall. All right. An economic
decline on a global scale starts in a peripherals, So
pay attention to Europe. This is also why they're against
peace because if they they see this as taking Russia
is the only way to come out of this. Schwabs
you'll you know, own nothing and be happy. Was all
about government defaulting, all right, instead of saying we're going
to default. Oh, we're going to believe you of your debt.
So we're doing this for you because there goes all
the punch your funds and everything else.
Speaker 3: You know, and you know I got a bridge to
sell you in Manhattan, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, So you have to understand Europe is in really
desperate shape. It's way overregulated. The German economy is actually shrunk,
and I'm not talking about a recession. I'm talking about
the number of businesses has declined. All right. They first
they did the lockdowns with COVID, then the climate change
and the sanctions on Russia. They have no energy, they
have to import everything, all right, So this whole thing
is just insane. You now have Earthen who has no
She hasn't been elected. She is the dictator Europe has
no process to allow people to vote for the head
of the EU, never stands for election, and she's out
there because one of the sales points to create the
euro was, oh, don't worry, it won't be a dictatorship
because it will take one consensus. So hungry is against war.
What are they doing now? Okay, well we'll strip Hungry
of the right to vote, So now it becomes a dictatorship.
The two hundred billion they stole from from Russia. It's
Hungry opposes that it's against international law. So what is
she doing? Well, we're changing the definition of what it is. Yeah,
I mean, look, it's like he's sending in troops to Vietnam. Oh,
but they're peacekeepers or advisors, you know, Yeah, I mean,
it's it just changed the label. You know, Altho're on
the advisors you know, here's the here's the coordinates. Pushed
this button, we call you know, oh you pushed it?
I didn't. It's this is what goes on. I mean,
Europe is serious trouble, so the markets will go up,
all right. Uh, our clients in Europe or institutional clients,
they've been moving their goals from Europe to America mainly
because you know, the when the first bullet is shot,
they are going to put on massive capital controls. You're
already seeing this in Spain. All right, you need permission
now just to take three thousand euros out. They restrict
how much you get out as of an ATM. They're
trying to eliminate cash as much as possible. The ECB
is moving towards a digital currency to and they will
cancel all paper currency period. US cannot do that because
it would be unconstitutional. For that's why the FED has
said no. Because the Fed, we need a search warrant
to look at your account. They don't need that over there,
So they're looking at clamping down all money. US, as
I've said before, was bankrupt in eighteen ninety six. That's
when you know JPM Morgan had to lend one hundred
billion in goal U and it was World War one
and two that brought all the money here to After
World War two we had seventy six percent of the
world official gold reserves. We became the financial capital of
the world after World War One. And these people think
a third time is going to be a charm. I'm
sorry our computer. I've never seen our computer do a
forecast on the country that basically says it will not exist,
and that's Ukraine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so.
Speaker 1: Is Zelenski doesn't give two ships about the people. I
don't see him possibly uh stepping down and retiring there.
They'll kill him. And you know where's he going to go.
He doesn't have Biden here, so I guess maybe he's
kissing up this to, you know, to Stammer in the
UK and the crone.
Speaker 3: Trump sure fan of his.
Speaker 1: No, he's going to be you know, him and his
family are going to be day period and you and
when you what I mean is that if you Italian
or Russian mafia, he screwed with them, they kill you.
Even the Russian mafia they're afraid of the worst in
the world, are our Median When this goes back a
long way, that they kill you, your wife, the kids, and
the dog. That don't want anybody coming back to retaliate.
And that's what you're getting in the Balkans, this attitude.
You know, Yugoslavia broke up, and you know, talk to
people in Serbia and all those Armenians know this is
this is the way Ukraine is. You talk to any
any real country that borders them and they tell you
don't do business with the Ukrainian Yeah, they are the
you know, even the Panama papers show that they were
the most corrupt country in the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know that. So Martin, I got a question
for you here on a more personal level, everything you've
been through having your freedom taken away, was it worth it?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, in a way. I mean it's it taught
me things that I didn't question before. As you know,
I you know, my father was a lawyer. I grew
up with all. I thought there was a rule of law,
and then you find out there is. It's all bullshiting.
Speaker 3: Department of just Us as you call it, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so people ask me, why aren't you bitter?
Because honestly, I wouldn't have known what I know unless
I saw it first firsthand. I mean, I had to
run the law library there, and you know, initially there
were you know, a lot of black kids coming in.
They looked like there were thugs. But they all kept saying,
you know, I was franked that wasn't my gun. Initially
I didn't believe them. Then there was a black kid
that came in that looked physically like he was retarded.
And I'm looking at his his indictment, and it's always
the same two cops. Now, there thousands of police in
New York. Why is it always these two. And in
his case, somebody came forward said it was frisked three times,
no gun. They took them back to the wagon. Suddenly
all they found it. Huh, they found the guy.
Speaker 3: I heard it before.
Speaker 1: So I said, look, I don't recommend people to go
to trial because you always end up getting more time.
Speaker 3: Than it plead analyze you for exercising the rights.
Speaker 1: And lawyers, court appointed lawyers work for the government. They
don't work for you. So I told them, you go
to trial. I said, the jury's going to look at you,
and I know they're not going to believe the government.
So I told him to go any won my court
appointed lawyer said to me, how do you feel that
you helped a criminal get out? I said a criminal,
I said, the jury found them minced. No, they didn't.
They just didn't find enough evidence.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the.
Speaker 1: Judge get this guy out of here. And he was
a court appointed lawyer. I never met a single court
appointed lawyer that ever gave two shits about the real
about people. They just take their orders from the government, period.
That's why. That's why they get appointed. They're part of
the club.
Speaker 3: Part of the club, and you're not in it. So
here's the second question. Would you do anything differently?
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean I survived. I mean, look, they
even tried to kill me. I was in a coma
for a week. All right, fine, but I came out
of it. I'll put it this way. There are a
couple things that inspired me. One was Patrick Kenry, give
me liberty or give me deaths? And you begin to see, honestly,
if I was sentenced to life from prison or given
the option for death, I choose to death. Death is
not by any means all these people that ow death penalties,
it's not the worst. The worst is being thrown into
a cell and kept there for the rest of your life. Yeah,
that's torture for every day. The other one that inspired
me was actually Socrates. If you read Plato's you know,
apology they sentenced in the death and he said, it's
either a migration of the soul to where I will
go see all my old friends. Why should I be afraid?
It's such a thing, or it's like a midsummer night's sleep,
so peaceful, not to be disturbed by a dream. Go ahead,
do your best, those two and I And when you're
there and you see it. I survived because once you
understand the game, Oh you don't do this, I'm gonna
kill you. Yeah, go ahead, I'm ready. You know, you
take all their power away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's strictly a question of your fear. But you
must have felt like you were living the Showshank Redemption.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was in civil contempt. So civil contempt, I
had no co defendants, so I could work in the library.
And they don't want to pay a warrior, so they
stuck me down there, so I got to see everything
and mark I had this one guy come in and
he says, oh, they threatened my children and all this stuff,
and I said, yeah, okay, fine. Then he said Oh,
you're a cold hearted bastard. I said, let me tell
you something that's standard operational procedure. They do it to everybody.
Go talk to people in here and you'll see. He
came back and he apologized. He says, you're right. I said, look,
this is what they do. They threaten your family and
if you don't do what they tell you, they're going
to go after your family. Michael milkan He planed, why
is something that was absolutely had nothing to do with
insider trading. Total bullshit. I wrote the book on that
back in eighty six, and you know I've been called
in by some of his legal team. Insider trading during
the Great Depression was I knew the company was bankrupt.
We're going to announce that on Monday, so I sell
on my personal stock on Friday. That's insider trading. Michael
Milkane was charged. Oh, insider trading. Okay, you and I
are going to take over a company. And the fraud is, oh,
we're defrauding as somebody else who doesn't have that information
to make the same amount of money nobody lost. I mean,
it's completely opposite. It flipped it upside down, and this
is what they've doing in court. You look at this
prosecutor that went after Trump, you know, and oh, because
he overvalued his property. She just you know, is doing
the same thing, and you know, getting loans out of
Virginia on property in New York to get a lower
you know interest. I mean, it's so hypocritical everything you do.
I mean, just look at this judge they just indicted,
all right, She's a county judge. She has no jurisdiction
over the question of ice to begin with. She disagrees
with and Trump administration takes the guy and leads him
out of the court through a back door to try
and get away from ice. She has no jurisdiction on
this stuff, of course, you know. Oh, you know, she's
doing the same thing as Trump. You know, I'm completely
immune from anything I do because I'm a judge. Not true. Sorry,
it has to be relating, you know what, So you
can kill your your spouse and say I'm a judge.
I'm okay. But look, I've seen it all and there
were a bunch of Italian mafia guys. You would not
believe the corruption in New York. One guy, supposedly, this
one guy is dead. They don't have a body, nothing.
All they have is a car park the JFK. They
prosecute three different, three different mafia families in New York
conspiracy to kill this guy. They don't have a body,
no evidence of that whatsoever, and everybody's found guilty. And
even the judge with the the second one comes up,
oh yeah, I know this case. This is the one.
We don't know who killed anybody. We don't have a body, right, Yes,
you're hore twenty years in prison. It's just a joke.
One of them. He subpoened the tapes, his own tapes
of phone calls. They made a mistake and gave him
the tapes of the guy who's going to testify against them.
Here's the prosecutor on the tape asking him to testify
against somebody else. And the guy says, I don't know him,
and I am listening tickets, And the prosecutor said, don't worry.
By the time I get done preparing you, you'll know
him like it's your brother. It was submitted, and that
who was the judge, Judge Paplin, was the same guy
that had Trump right and said, your honor, here the tape,
the same prosecutor with the same guy in my case dismissed.
That's another case that's not this one, all right, I
mean terrible.
Speaker 3: It's it is awful, and we appreciate the sacrifice you
made for the truth. You know, there aren't many people
in this world that would go through what you went
through for the truth. Maybe he made some compliance errors,
maybe there were certain things, but certainly the punishment did
not fit the crime. And you're basically railroaded, and somehow
it's okay. But there are those of us out there
who appreciate your sacrifice for the truth, because sometimes you
have to give up everything in order in order to
defend the truth. And it's not a pleasant thing to
go through. But if people didn't do it, where would
we be today? Martin.
Speaker 1: Look, you know they had a The bankers lied to
them to begin with. So the prosecutors honestly, were just
too stupid. They didn't understand what anything was about.
Speaker 3: They don't know, And.
Speaker 1: Within six months they had what it's called the reverse
PROFI where they bring me in and tell me why
I should plead guilty, and they're giving me the excuses,
and they said, look, we know you didn't steal any money.
I said, no, shit, how do you get a billion
dollars out of the bank and nobody knows where're wet.
It's got to be a wire, you know. Come on,
how stupid can you be? He says they wanted me
to plead guilty to a conspiracy with Saffra, and I said,
do you people understand what the hell you stepped into.
I'm not pleading guilty to anything with Saffra whatsoever. They
were all trying it to, you know, regime change in Russia.
Get out of here. I'm not putting my family at
risk because you don't want to admit that you screw up,
you know. And even if you look at my plea,
they wrote it and it says I don't even know
I think I committed I pled to anything. It says
I failed to tell my clients that the bank took
the money for its own benefit. Is that a crime?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, in the modern America, you show me the man,
I'll show you the crime. I mean, personally, I think
from the time I woke up to the time I
got in the shower this morning, I committed five felonies Martin,
and I don't even know what they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: It's how many more on the way to Starbucks.
Speaker 1: So the rule of law has completely collapsed in this country.
It collapsed even worse in Europe. This is part of
what the computer's projecting into twenty thirty two. And then
the more I think charging Trump kind of opened the
dyke to some degree that people began to see what's
going on. We're doing the same to Bosa and Row
in Brazil. They went to Lapenne in France, Saint Boshit
in Romania. I mean, the president, the former president of
Pakistan is thrown in prison. They're using this all the time.
And there's a book I would recommend you can read.
It's called On Liberty by John Stuart Mill and he
has one of my favorite quotes in there. We have
yet to free ourselves of the stain of legal persecution.
Speaker 3: My god, that's like, that's like shan shivers up your spine,
because they could. Just when we did it to you,
they could do it to anybody. Martin. Then they have.
Speaker 1: I was. And when they did the movie on me,
the forecaster, I think I was. I think it was Frankfurt.
Some woman stood up and says, own, this is what's
wrong with American law, and a German lawyer stood up.
He said, what are you talking about. We do this
to people here all the time. You cannot allow government.
And I have been, you know, screaming with people in
in Capitol Hill that I'd be glad to help with
legal reform. The problem is government should not be allowed
to bring the charges period. And you know it's it's political.
I saw them re elections of judges. I saw them.
There would be some black kid going to go to
the trial and they give them an all black jury
and he thinks it's good and I said, no, it's not,
because they will pick people only from areas that are
pissed off with the young guys. I said, you're you're
better off with a jury that's even white from outside
your area.
Speaker 3: And then they lets it objectively from the west side
of men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just uh. I saw them riggs
courts all the time. If you were Chinese, you got
Judge Chin. I won jewet Come.
Speaker 3: It costs me five million bucks, Judge Chin, yeah, five million.
Speaker 1: I saw I had a Jewish friend. They gave him
a Jewish judge who gave him an extra five years
because he insulted because they went to the same school.
I mean come on, this is the bullshit that you hear.
He was eventually overruled by the Supreme Court and fled
the country as soon as he was released, said I'll
never come back here again.
Speaker 3: O MG, this is horrible and we could we could
devote a whole show to this. In the meantime, go
over to my site Financial Survival Network dot com. Click
the link by the book. You'll just see that half
of what you hear from people is just illusion. They
don't know what they're talking about. We've documented these forecasts.
Today is a chilling one, but we'll all have to
live with it. Martinsit Armstrong Economics dot com. Any questions
or comments, shoot me a link kl at Carrie Lutz
dot com. Martin again, my sincerest gratitude, and it's been
a privilege to put this book together, to interview you
over fourteen years. I'm looking forward to the next fourteen.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope we have that much time.
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