WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:19.760 It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast special report. The Lapse 2 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:24.719 Fan presents the complete Hull Coogan, a real American story, 3 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:26.440 brought to you by Garage. 4 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:29.519 It is a fascinating point in Terry Bolay's life. He 5 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:33.039 makes ways to Cocoa Beach for a year and it's 6 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.320 just like he gives up wrestling for a little while 7 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.840 and all of this stuff happens in his life. He 8 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:41.520 has this fascinating sort of running hard bachelor period with 9 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.000 his buddy ed Leslie. It's at the Anchor Club. And 10 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:47.200 we just were so starved for color as to what 11 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:49.880 that whole time period was like because Terry Boley for 12 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.039 the first time falls out of the newspapers and you know, 13 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:56.159 he's just he's just pursuing this private glory. 14 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:58.640 It's like this, it's like this, like this, this just 15 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.679 this this black hole of time where I need more information. 16 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:04.799 I need it all, I need it now. 17 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:06.760 And it was truly a godsend as we went through 18 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:08.879 our research on this period in Terry Bullet's life to 19 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.400 realize that not only you know, was the Anchor Club 20 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.439 something that the papers would write about in and around Florida, 21 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:17.239 but that the announcement of a new manager around the 22 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:20.719 time that Terry was running hard over there was somebody 23 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:24.359 that the world knows and just amazing to think that 24 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.079 these two paths crossed at a certain period in time 25 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.599 in Cocoa Beach before they were famous, so to speak. 26 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:32.280 And we are thrilled here on the complete Hull COGD 27 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.400 on the Lapsed Fan to welcome now don the Dragon Wilson, 28 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:39.799 eleven time championing kickboxing star of stage and screen. Donn. 29 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:41.159 It is so great to have you on the show. 30 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:41.920 Thank you so much. 31 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.879 Well, thank you for having me on. A little bit 32 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:51.920 sad of the subject matter that we're talking because Terry's 33 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.560 asked on, but still, you know, everything I know about 34 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.840 Terry is good and he was always a positive person. 35 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:00.480 That's excellent. So I'd love for you to set us 36 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:03.439 up back then mid seventies seventy eight, I think in 37 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:05.599 Coco Beach. How did you come to work at the 38 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.479 Anchor Club and when do you first remember meeting Terry Belea. 39 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.360 Well, it was I started working at the Anchor Club 40 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:14.199 in the early seventies. I don't know the exact year, 41 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:18.000 but I was attending college and it was the perfect 42 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.319 job because I could work on the weekends and didn't 43 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.319 go to school during the week And I also was 44 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.080 on a wrestling scholarship, so I'd have to go to 45 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:29.039 wrestling practice afterwards, and so I had a pretty busy schedule. 46 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:31.120 When I first worked at the Anchor Club, it was 47 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:33.439 as a bouncer. I was already a black belt in 48 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:36.159 kung fu so and I was a collegiate wrestler. So 49 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.800 I was in pretty good shape. Wow, and yeah, that 50 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:42.199 was my qualifications. Now, Terry I did not need at 51 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.000 the Anchor Club. He was just a bass player in 52 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.680 one of the bands that played there. Yes, it came 53 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:51.879 from Tampa. The band came from Tampa, and Terry came 54 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:54.800 and he got to know the owner of the club. 55 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:57.599 We just his name's Charles Bridges, but we just call 56 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:02.680 him Whitey yep. And they became friends, and so it 57 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:03.240 started off. 58 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:06.280 Was there is there a reason why he was called Whitey? 59 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:07.960 I mean curious about that. 60 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.759 He was. You know, sometimes people get what they call 61 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:13.919 the premature white I guess. 62 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:14.400 Oh in the hair. 63 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:18.919 Yeah yeah, yeah, his hair was, uh, well you call it. 64 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.479 I think he would call it blonde, but uh, I 65 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:27.319 think it was more the whitest blonde and it wasn't 66 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.159 a look that I think. There was not even no 67 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.879 dye or anything. It just I think his hair just 68 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:35.000 premature gray. I guess, as he was not an older guy, 69 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.759 he was probably in his I would guess he was 70 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.680 in his hu because nobody ever asked him his agent 71 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:45.879 that I knew, probably late thirties, thirty forties. 72 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:47.639 Got it, got it okay. So that makes sense that 73 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:49.840 that rhyme's done with what we've heard about how Terry 74 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.280 knew Whitey Bridges before going to work for the Anchor Club. 75 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.960 Because what happens is Terry goes and trains a bit 76 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:56.960 in Tampa to become a wrestler and kind of gets 77 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:58.919 disillusioned with the whole thing. He's not making a lot 78 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:00.960 of money, he's not getting booked a lot, and so 79 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:04.400 he just quit. At some point he did. And what 80 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:06.039 he said in his book and stuff is that he 81 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:07.800 just sits down, what am I going to do next? 82 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.479 And he remembers that Whitey had said something to him, 83 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.280 if you ever need work, or if you ever need 84 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.240 you know, a new chapter in life, give me a call. 85 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.240 Is is that how you understood he came to work for 86 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:17.199 an Anchor Club. 87 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:21.040 Yep, yep, that's that sound like a story and h 88 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:24.800 but I will say this he then I tell people 89 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.399 he's one of the life lessons that I teach. It 90 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:30.240 is Terry's life, I said. He went back the second time. 91 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:32.399 The first time, I believe he was called the. 92 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:34.360 Destroyer, Super Destroyer. That's right. 93 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:37.319 He was what they called a heel like he was 94 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.879 a bad guy. Yes, you know you're supposed to when 95 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:42.240 he comes out of the auditorium, they're supposed to be. 96 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:43.639 Booming, right. 97 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:47.639 Uh. But then he went back in with with the 98 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.720 new image of a Hulk and and that the hulksters 99 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.560 the little kids. He'd rip his t shirt off and 100 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.720 throw it out to the kids. In other words, he 101 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.600 came back as a good guy. And that's when his 102 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.040 career took. 103 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.079 A absolutely true. Yeah, that's where all hit hit the 104 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:04.720 ground running. And that's why this period of his life 105 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:06.759 is so fascinating because he hadn't quite yet figured out 106 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.079 Hulk Hogan. He wasn't Hulk Hogan yet. He was still 107 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:11.920 just this guy that was Super Destroyer for a handful 108 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.199 of matches in the fall of seventies. 109 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:17.319 Yeah, he was not happy when we discussed his wrestling 110 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:21.800 when he was doing those shows. He was not happy, 111 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:26.600 and I believe. Look, I don't know the exactly how 112 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:28.839 it happened, but he got an injury. He has signed 113 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.759 a contract to do more than a multiple appearance thing. 114 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:35.560 He or he injuried himself the first day and he 115 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:39.920 couldn't do the next appearance, next show, and they the 116 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:41.720 way the contracts were they, I guess they don't have. 117 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:43.600 A union for wrestlers, oh not at all. 118 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.120 But they didn't have to pay him for the first 119 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.839 one because he didn't show up at the second one right, 120 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:52.360 and he got really upset and he came to work 121 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:56.439 as a bartender again. And then I don't know if 122 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.480 it was Eddie or he decided, you know, I'm gonna 123 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:03.079 try it one more time, and he went back. And 124 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:10.480 that's when he went back as became a star. Told 125 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.519 me how he got the stallone thing. I bumped into 126 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.600 him at a restaurant we had dinner together, and he goes, 127 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:19.680 don you know how I got on Rocky And I go, no, 128 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.319 how he goes, I wrestled, And I believe his Madison 129 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:24.439 Square gardens. I guess he was used to wrestle there, 130 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:26.720 but he wrestled. He went to this hotel room and 131 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:31.439 now his name is never listed in the hotel directory 132 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:34.439 when he's staying there for a wrestling match, otherwise can 133 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:36.920 get bothered by the fans. So he hit the phone 134 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:43.800 call and he's said he was sorry, we say that. Yeah, 135 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:47.199 I'm going to uh see if I turn this thing off. 136 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:48.879 I don't even know how. 137 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:51.560 That's no problem. If you need to take it, go 138 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:52.040 ahead to you. 139 00:06:52.120 --> 00:07:02.519 But we're about to probably just nobody word nobody. But anyway, 140 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:04.800 so this is a story of Terry. Terry's telling me 141 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:06.439 the story of the Rocky thing, how he got the 142 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:08.519 Rocky because you know, that was a major break for 143 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.600 him as well as far across across there's people who 144 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:16.199 were not wrestling fans, all known because everybody saw Rocky 145 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.160 and uh, he said, he gets a phone call in 146 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.839 this hotel room and and the guy says, hello, this 147 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:24.959 is I'm sliced alone. I like when you come in 148 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:27.519 and read for a movie. And he thought it was 149 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.959 a crank call, and how'd you get my number? He goes, blank, 150 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.920 you and he hung up on him. And so then 151 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.720 rock stallone calls back and he said, you know, he 152 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.720 looked at me. Terry said, he said, you know, don 153 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.319 I recognize his voice because Stallone has a kind of 154 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:45.399 distinctive voice. 155 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:47.600 Right, yeah, definitely to him. 156 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:49.639 But he was so mad in the beginning because he 157 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.360 thought it was a crank call that he didn't pay. 158 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:53.639 The second time he called, he listened and he said, 159 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:57.560 I realized it was him, Yes, And that was his 160 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:59.920 big breakthrough, you know. The after that he just shot 161 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:04.199 the top, and I think Championship wrestling also, timing wise, 162 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.120 became much bigger. They had what they call WrestleManias. 163 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.839 Of course, yeah, yeah, we we We're going to get 164 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:14.040 to all that for sure as we go through the 165 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:16.240 sort of chronicling of his life in time, I got to. 166 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:19.000 Take a couple of coincidents with me and and hope 167 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.800 that you will not know. But it's it's kind of 168 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:24.639 hard to believe that I get a phone call. He 169 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.399 used to wrestle in Japan, Terry, and he wrestled for 170 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:30.360 a guy named Sima. So out of the clear Blue, 171 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:32.519 I get a phone call from Shima and he says 172 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:36.159 he's interested in promoting me as a kickboxer in Japan. 173 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:40.360 So so my first fight in Japan was the same 174 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.759 promoter that Terry years after we knew each other was 175 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:49.240 wrestling for in Japan. Sima was his name. And then 176 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:51.600 when I get to La to be an actor, I 177 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:54.440 was going to make a crossover from kickboxing to actor. 178 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.799 Chuck Norris said, don you need the right attorney, And 179 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:58.440 I got the guy. His name's Henry Holmes. 180 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.960 Henry Holmes, Henry George Foreman. 181 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:07.279 He handles a lot of athlete entertainers, so I signed 182 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.600 with him. As I'm leaving Henry's office, I look at 183 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:12.679 a painting on the wall and it's Terry Wow, And 184 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:14.559 I go, what's this doing here? And he goes, that's 185 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:18.399 one of my clients. Now that's a coincidence. We ended 186 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.440 up with the same attorney in La Me and Terry 187 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:22.320 after all those years. 188 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:24.440 Now, did you recognize him on the painting dawn as 189 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:26.679 Terry Bolea from the Anchor Club or did you know 190 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:28.399 he was a wrestler or you didn't even know that. 191 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:30.000 I know all about his rusting career. 192 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.960 I mean, oh, for sure. So that's a point he's 193 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:34.960 already reached that yeah, because in Japan that was kind 194 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.399 of before he was a huge deal in America. So 195 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:39.320 it's kind of what. 196 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:43.480 When he was rustling Proshima. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, 197 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:49.039 I just know that I found out at some point, 198 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:51.720 and I did speak to Terry about we Our past 199 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:54.440 did cross a couple of times, and there was even 200 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.320 a white He asked me for Terry's number, so I 201 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:01.039 didn't have it on me, so I called my agent 202 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:04.480 and my agent Terry has representation out here. Well, he 203 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.960 did have representation of my agent called his agent and 204 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:10.559 we gave the number to Whitey for some something. I 205 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:12.480 don't know what. He just wanted to say hi to Terry. 206 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:12.840 Or oh wow. 207 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:17.080 Yeah, but that was the closest thing we got to 208 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:21.960 actually communicating. Now, I didn't talk through him, but but 209 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:25.519 I did arrange for Whitey to get Terry's phone number. 210 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:28.000 That's amazing. So that that the Henry Holmes connection. Yeah, 211 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.080 we hear so much about Henry Holmes. In fact, one 212 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:32.799 of the things Terry always said in his life was 213 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:34.559 that he was going to get the George Foreman grill. 214 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:37.120 But he didn't. He couldn't take the call from Henry Holmes. 215 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:38.919 So Henry Holmes turned around and gave it to George. 216 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:39.679 Do you believe that. 217 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.720 I have no reason to doubt it? Things happening you know, 218 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:51.799 Hollywood is an absolutely bizarre thing. Uh yeah, you know, 219 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:54.440 all kinds of crazy things happen here. And then that 220 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:59.519 doesn't sound any crazier than that I've come up with. 221 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:02.759 I mean, there's no way I never should have got 222 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.080 in my I had a Corvette, read Corvette. I got 223 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:06.559 in it, and I don't know if you know how 224 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.080 big Corvette is, but not very big. I mean, I'm 225 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.360 saying the interior. I put everything I could fit in 226 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:14.159 there and moved to LA to be an actor. And 227 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:17.120 I knew nothing about acting. So a lot of people said, well, 228 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:19.080 how did you find out about it? I said, well, 229 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:23.600 I enrolled in some acting schools and they told me 230 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.600 to go to this bookstore called Samuel French, and there's 231 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:28.879 books aren't acting. So I bought a book and I 232 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.159 read it by the swimming pool. It said how to 233 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:34.759 be an actor in LA And I followed everything the 234 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:37.519 book said, and but within three months I was on 235 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:43.600 General Hospital and then I I got cast in Blood 236 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:45.879 Fist started the movie. It was one of the top 237 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.919 one hundred independent films of all time. Roger Corman produced it. 238 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:52.960 Really a very great thing. Yeah, Roger Corman, he did 239 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:55.519 twelve movies I did more movies for Roger than any 240 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:56.039 other actor. 241 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.720 That's like, I mean that, that's you know, legendary for 242 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:04.720 basically like uh, being the greatest film school of all 243 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:06.480 time just working with Roger Krmack I. 244 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:11.200 Started Jack Nicholson yep. Uh Scorsese transit for. 245 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:13.639 Yeah. 246 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:16.039 He gave a lot of people their breaks, and he 247 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:18.399 gave me mine. He passed me in a movie from 248 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:21.000 not being an actor as the lead in a movie 249 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:21.720 called Blood Fists. 250 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.840 Yep. There's been so many movies when he was done. 251 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:27.600 He made the movie really cheap in Philippines. He sold 252 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:30.000 it to MGM and he made a lot of money, 253 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:32.879 and MGM bought Blood This too and made a lot 254 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.080 of money. And so Rogers thought, you know what, I'm 255 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:38.559 going to keep the rights to Blood This three and 256 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:40.440 see if you you could still make money for me, 257 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:42.679 and ended up we end up doing eight Blood Fists. 258 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:46.679 What a franchise, Rogers. That's so great. So so we 259 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.480 got an idea of where you and Terry are heading 260 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:51.759 in your respective careers, and it's great. Heights I wanted 261 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:54.919 to reset are a few movies as well. Oh yeah, 262 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:57.840 for sure, we'll talk about those. But to reset back 263 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:00.320 to the you know those earlier days before you quote 264 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.759 unquote famous at Anchor Club. One of the things we're 265 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:04.679 dying to get a sense of done is what Anchor 266 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.240 Club was like. It sounds like a pretty wild place 267 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:08.720 where people were partying. 268 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:13.919 If there was a studio fifty four in Kogo Beach. 269 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.320 I mean, the Miami Dolphins would come up from Miami 270 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.519 and they got plenty of the good nightclubs in Port Laerdale, 271 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.159 South Florida. They came up and would hang out at 272 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:27.080 the Anchor Club. The Astronauts hung out there, I believe 273 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:29.120 it because they were called the Houston Astros. It was 274 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:31.480 his baseball team that had a summer camp in the 275 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:36.639 Perhaps just everybody would go to the Anchor Club. It 276 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:40.000 was the place to be. It had live music and 277 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.799 also it had a DJ. Let me tell you the 278 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:44.600 DJ was. Have you ever heard of the band called 279 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:45.799 Casey in a Sunshine Band? 280 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:46.159 Of course? 281 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:51.519 Yes, okay, Well one of their members, oh h, it 282 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:53.279 must have been a singer or something. But he sang 283 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:55.519 for a different band for a while. He saw the 284 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:58.480 Anchor Club and he quit Casey in a Sunshine Band 285 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:00.360 because he said he wanted to be His gold was 286 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:04.440 to become a DJ. Wow, because that disco was just 287 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:08.559 starting and the movie Saturday Night came out and I said, 288 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:10.440 you know what I told Whitey I was managing the club. 289 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.120 I said, Whitey, we should have Monday Night tever. He goes, 290 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.240 what do you mean? I said, we don't make any 291 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.279 money on Monday nights, right, He goes, yeah, it was empty. 292 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.320 I said, well, we're gonna have a dance contest and 293 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:21.279 it's gonna be just like Saturday Night Fever. We're gonna 294 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:22.960 get a dance light, a dance floor, and we're gonna 295 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.919 get a good like a celebrity DJ. So I got 296 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.799 this guy like I think his name might have been Charlie, 297 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:33.440 but anyway, he was the quick Casey the Sunshay Band 298 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:36.480 worked as my DJ, and we had a packed night 299 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:40.759 every Monday night. So I I so Friday and Saturday 300 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:42.240 was packed, Monday was packed. 301 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:45.200 You know what that sounds like, don is Hulk opened 302 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:47.840 his own place on Clearwater Beach later in his life 303 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:49.679 and he had Monday Night karaoke. It sounds like that's 304 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:50.639 where we got the idea from. 305 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:52.919 Yeah, yeah, he might have. He might have taken it 306 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.279 because because we were packed on a Monday night and 307 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:57.639 nobody's packed on Monday night in nightclub. 308 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:03.960 So how how wild did it get? I mean weekends 309 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.799 when that place is jam and I mean we're talking sex, drugs, 310 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:08.919 and rock and roll. Can you get us closer to it? 311 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.360 But in my mind, the sex or the it was 312 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:19.039 mainly sex, alcohol and rock and roll got it. The 313 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:23.840 drug thing for me, it didn't. I didn't see it. 314 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:27.279 And I guess people figure if Don doesn't do it, 315 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:35.120 we shouldn't be doing it around him, right saying there's 316 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.960 no there's no professional athletics you could do consistently and 317 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.039 be a winner doing drugs, any drugs, I don't care. 318 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:44.240 If it could be marrot pot. You know that was 319 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:47.600 very illegal back then. But people smoke pot and to 320 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.960 coach your lungs and it messes up your I don't 321 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.000 know that THC is a drug that does not lead 322 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.320 your blood instantly. You know it stays in your system 323 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:01.320 like weeks everything. I was science major. My father worked 324 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:03.639 at Candy Space Center, so I was an engineering major 325 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:06.080 in school. I'm a big believer in science, and the 326 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:10.840 science is anything that alters you is not in man 327 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:12.679 mad is ninety percent of the time is going to 328 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:18.919 be bad, right, I mean alcohol bad, pot bad, cigarettes bad. 329 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:21.879 Needless to say. So, do you remember Terry, you know, 330 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.320 working the bar there? Would he drink? 331 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:28.679 Yes, he did. He did drink, and I did drink 332 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:32.240 a sum but but not when I I had to 333 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.240 quit the Anchor Club to become a kickboxing champion. When 334 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:37.840 I really made my mind up that that's what I 335 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.639 wanted to do, I quit, and Terry quit to become 336 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.799 a wrestler. Become You can't be a wrestler in Coco Beach, Florida. 337 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:49.240 Now tell us, tell us exactly what you remember Terry doing, 338 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.360 because some people say he was like a bouncer. Others 339 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:52.240 say he was a bar tender. 340 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.399 If he's never a bouncer, never a bouncer. He never 341 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:57.080 fought anybody. First of all, nobody's gonna fight a guy. 342 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:59.039 You just take a one to look at Terry. He 343 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.600 was still big then, you know, he was tall, and 344 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:03.759 and I don't know if you were how old you are, 345 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:05.799 but there's a thing that we all wore them. I 346 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:06.599 wore them too. 347 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.640 Platform shoes, sure, yes. 348 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:13.440 And those shoes lift you up probably four inches. In 349 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:16.680 other words, if Terry was uh six six, he was 350 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:21.599 six ten what he puts his shoes on. Yeah, so, uh, 351 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.319 nobody's gonna mess with Terry. And he was behind the bar, 352 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:28.920 you know. Uh, and I'm sure he was doing I 353 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:31.799 did not keep up. Well, we don't, we don't. We 354 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:33.960 don't keep track of each other. But there was a 355 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:35.720 lot of a lot of promiscuity. 356 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:43.640 Yes, if uh AIDS had not come out yet, yes, 357 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:45.640 that's important. Yet at that point it did. 358 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:47.400 But they called it at the time, they called it 359 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.960 a gay disease, right and and and and heterosexuals never 360 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.599 worried about it. We figured, well, I'm not gay, so 361 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:55.880 I don't have to worry about it. Right later they 362 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:57.960 found out it's a virus and anybody can get it. 363 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.759 But but during the times the disco era now, and 364 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:05.400 I'm talking about specifically Saturday Night Feaver when it was released, Yep, 365 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:08.519 the peak of the disco era hit right after that. 366 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:12.000 Everybody watched that movie and said, that's what we want 367 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.240 to do on Friday and Saturday nights. Go have dance, 368 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.720 you know, go to dancings, you know, go to clubs 369 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:22.359 and dance. And yeah, Terry was there. So Terry did 370 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:26.480 drink and I did drink as well. I don't deny it, 371 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:31.119 but yeah, I never knew him did use any drugs. 372 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:33.720 And you know, people take steroids, but when you're as 373 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:39.920 big as Terry, I'm not thinking he was. Maybe you 374 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:42.680 know today they did have this stuff called HGH human 375 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.680 growth hormone. Yes, they have certain things that are not 376 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:51.599 as probably effectives. Is the hardcore steroids. 377 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:54.200 Well, he was very open later in his life and 378 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:56.640 people around him about how he got hard on Diana 379 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.200 Ball and really really when he went to Cocoa Beach 380 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:00.160 and they opened that gym. 381 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.000 With white he had with Whitey, Yeah, he had a gym. 382 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:05.519 Do you remember that stuff going around and people getting 383 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:07.400 just huge on bodybuilding drugs? 384 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:10.759 I do not, I do, I didn't. You know what, 385 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:14.400 I think there was a kind of an attitude among 386 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:17.160 athletes and if you're using drugs, it's kind of like 387 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:19.359 cheating a little bit. It's like you're kind of of course, 388 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:23.480 right yeah, and you don't they don't admit it. Like today, 389 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:26.039 we know for a fact there's not a bodybuilder that's 390 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.400 ever won that Mister Universe that didn't take some kind 391 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.519 of drug. Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, 392 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:34.599 it's just the human body does not. 393 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:39.440 React like that it's grown like that to the point about. 394 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:43.279 Nobody admitted it. I don't think Terry would have admitted it. 395 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.640 Never talk to me about it and never he just 396 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:51.359 you know, don, I'm taking some steroids and it never 397 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:54.759 came out. Never. And we have lifted weights together, I've 398 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:57.240 gone to the gym and we worked out together. Sure, 399 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:02.359 and yeah, but it never came up. 400 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:04.519 What was that, Jim, Like, did you ever go in 401 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.200