Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Baton Rouge studio.
Speaker 3: It's off the Bench, all right, Welcome back in our
number three ot B here on this Tuesday morning. We
were at SEC media Days last week and I know
Tata had a chance to catch up with Nick on Friday,
but very excited to get Nick back on because it
is training camp time, and that is Nick Underhill. New
Orleans Dot Football joins us now and Nick. When we
were playing, like we had certain feelings about training camp,
there was some excitement, but there was also some you know,
we got to go stay in a dorm or a
hotel for training camp for month. But for you, somebody
that looks forward to this like all day every day
because now football season is here, is this like basically
Christmas morning for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's definitely the most exciting time of
the year. And I think this one's maybe even a
little more exciting than like has been in previous years
because it's just the weight of you know, the disappointment
with Dannis Allen and Derek Carr and you know, all
this stuff isn't on it right now and nobody hates
anything yet and that'll probably come by like week six.
But I think for like a good you know, six
weeks through training camp, six weeks of the season, people
are gonna be happy and they're gonna be interested, and
it's all gonna be new and unspoiled and non blemished,
and yeah, I mean it just kind of it just
kind of makes it, you know, exciting. Again. Look, we've
been spending six months talking about the theory of this,
the theory of that with Tyler shot Kennels, like if
Trevor Penning playguard or they gonna have a third wide
receivers Brandon Cooks any good And it's like we start
to get those answers and there's like things to talk about.
So it's it's definitely like my favorite day of the
year every year.
Speaker 3: Does the Tyler shut guaranteed contract? I might as well
just dive right into it. Does that do anything for
the competition? Because for me, I'm just like for me
on the outside looking at like it doesn't because second
round picks now are getting guaranteed deals. That's just kind
of what it is. And it's only eleven million dollars. Like,
I know, a lot of people like they saw that, like, oh,
Tyle Shuck starting quarterback now, Like that didn't do anything
for me to say he's solidified as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't think that that changes anything
at all. I mean the way that kind of got
framed by a lot of people was very weird to me.
You know, you're talking the guy in front of him
got a hundred, the guy behind him got ninety five
percent guaranteed. Yeah, so you're talking about like a five
percent difference somewhere in there, and that comes down to
less than a million bucks. So that doesn't change anything.
The thing that I think changed the competition is when
they drafted him with the fortieth pick and they already
had the other guy on the roster. That's what changed
the competition. And you know, I think the thing people
don't realize is is, look, it's very possible that that
Spencer Ratler goes out here and he just looks amazing
and he and he wins the job. But like he's
gonna have to knock him out like he has to
knock out Tyler Shuck. He does not win a decision.
He does not win anything that's close. Like basically the
judges for this fight have been bought off at the
Crooked Fight and you're gonna have to put Tyler Shuck
on the mast and that's the only way Spencer Ratler
wins this. And he might, but I mean, you know,
when you make that investment and the other guy's on
the roster, it's kind of a you know, a very
telling thing about the way they're leading. And they didn't
pick Tyler or they didn't pick Spencer Rallery, they picked
Tyler Shuck, Like that's that's his guy going into this year.
Ratler might win it, but I mean it's gonna have
to be a decisive win. And for him to start
every game this year, I mean, he would have to
be just unbelievable. I think.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: I think it's a tough battle for for Ratler Ozer
against him, And you know, I think I think it
was just a draft pick that did it, not the contract.
Speaker 3: Oh it's okay, hey, while we're talking about your back,
I cut sorry, I cut his microphone off.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, sorry, Yeah, to follow up, on this is
I guess a two part question. How does you say
Spencer Rawler has to knock him out? First part of
the question is how does he knock him out? Is
it games? Is it practices? Is it both? Because I
mean the guy can look great in the game and
mediocre and practice, and fan base is like, oh my god,
look at this guy dominating the third quarter and you know,
game two or three of NFL preseason. So in your opinion, like,
what is that knockout punch that somebody has to deliver?
Speaker 2: I mean, if Ratler gets in there, you know, I
think it just has to be whenever he gets his
opportunity to get in the game, and he would have
to look like a top twenty NFL quarterback when he plays.
So if he's starting, you know, week one, it just
has to be so undeniable that when we're coming on here,
you know, Tuesday morning after week one, Week two, week three,
we're all just like, yeah, there's no way you can
take them out right now. And you know, I think
you just have to keep up that momentum throughout the
season whenever he gets that opportunity, because like they want
to go to Tyler shuck, they want to find out
what they got. They want to see this guy that
they looked at, they evaluated, they scouted and thought something,
and like either Rattler has to knock him out or
Shuck has to knock himself out and do something to
spoil the belief that they had in him. But like
their pension is going to be for him to be
the guy that wins this job. And you know, I
think that's that's natural. Like if you go out and
you buy a car and you got one sitting in
your job, when you just happen to not trade it
in the next morning, when you go out and you're
looking at those cars, you're getting in the new one
that's the one you picked. I mean, I think that's
just going to be how they kind of feel forward it.
There's gonna have to be a very compelling reason to
not get into the new car.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Do you think Tyler Shuck has to lose it in
order to not be the day one starter?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I think that's interesting because there's a
lot of things a player, like a lot of situations
you look at it and you say, yeah, like start
Brian Hoyer the first four games, let him go through it,
like Shuck get used to like a pattern of a season.
Let Jacoby Brissette take the hit against Buffalo and then
put in the new guy. But we're talking about a
situation where like they don't have Brian Hoyer, they don't
have right Jacoby Brissette. Like this is two guys that
have never won a game, and like, if Shuck is
obviously better in training camp. I think in a situation
where you have a vet, you can tell it like, hey,
look we're gonna go with this guy, give him some
time to get his feet underneath him. It's two guys
that have never won a game in the NFL, and
if Shuck is obviously the better guy, I don't know
how you go look tire Matthew in the face and
say like we're starting this other guy, and you know you, guys,
guys got to get the ball for him. So I
find it fascinating. But on the flip side of it,
you look at the first four games of the schedule,
then I think there's a compelling case for if Shuck
is your guy, like allowing him to not go through
the hardest part of this guy Joel Well, this team's
kind of figuring out what it is and put him
in there after the Buffalo game, after those licks have
been taken, when the schedule softens up, so that you
know there's a smooth runway you get off, there's not
you know, you know the adversity as much. But he's
also twenty six and he's had a multitude of injuries,
and I'm sure he sat in his dorm room or
apartment or whatever, you know, multiple nights throughout his college
career and like contemplated whether or not he was gonna
get healthy enough to play football again, if he was
ever going to get to the league. And that's a
lot of adversity that he's been through, and it like,
I think he knows how to handle that stuff. So
it's it's a unique situation. But yeah, I mean I
think I think Chuck a has to lose it and
Ratley definitely has to be significantly better because I think
at coin flip, I think, you know, a twenty percent
difference isn't enough. Like, I think he has to be
decisively better than Shuck to get really get it real,
like genuine like you have a chance to be the
guy type of opportunity.
Speaker 3: And at what point in training camp do you think
they'll make a decision, Like you know, from what you've heard,
do you think it's like, hey, when it happens, it happens,
or is it like, hey, two weeks, in two and
a half weeks, whatever that timeline might be, this is
when we want to have our guy because like I
can't tell you my experience because I never went through
this in the NFL. Like the teams I played with,
we all knew who the quarterback was in college a
little bit we went through this, but like you want
to know, like you want to know who your guy's
going to be. I feel like heading into the back
end of training camp, no, there's.
Speaker 2: A feeling like in that building that it's like Shuck
progresses the way he did throughout the summer that it's
like probably by preseason week one that there might be
some separation there. But again, like these are people that
are planted towards him, and you know, they they want
to see what they want to see and they want
to believe what they want to believe. So I think
they want to call it as quickly as possible. I
think if you're if you're you know, if it's shucked,
like it shucks the guy I think they want to
be able to make a call as soon as possible,
to just kind of build everything around him off. You go,
give him the best opportunity, you know, if it stays
close like obviously, I think it goes all the way through.
But that that's where I like going to my first
point like about it. Like I I think if if
if Rattler has that separation, I think the door's still
open for the other guy. And I think it Shuck
has the separation, the door closes, Like I think those
are the the the you know, the the coin flips
that you lose if if you're the incumbent and you
aren't the handtacked newcomer. So I think that they want
to call it as quick as possible. I think it
probably at least goes through the first preseason game. I
don't know what it has to look like to be
convinced for it, you know, I just don't as I
as I handicap it, I don't know that I can
like envision like a clear winner out of the Like
I thought Rattler looked really good all summer. Honestly, I
think he's a little bit of head going into it.
I don't know what they would have to see that
to call it, but I think they want to call
it as quickly as possible.
Speaker 6: The what if game.
Speaker 5: And I know you want to probably stop talking quarterbacks,
but we're not gonna let you. So let's play.
Speaker 2: Let's for months. I'm ready for that's right.
Speaker 5: We're getting you ready, all right, So let's play the
what if? What if both quarterbacks continue to progress, continue
to look good, and they're both having success not only
in practice but in games. So I would assume we
might get in a situation where, hey, you know what,
Spencer you start game one preseason, Chuck you start game two,
preceding the think but they both have equal success in
some crazy far out scenario. Could you ever can you
one hundred percent count out that they would they would
not start a season in a dual quarterback situation.
Speaker 2: I think they want to find out what they have.
I mean, so, I mean I can't roll that out
for sure. And look at both these guys are really good,
and they they're both viable NFL starters. There's kind of
a benefit of the showcase from both of them, just
so that you can you could maybe trade one, you know,
when there's an injury before the deadline or something. So
I think I think all that stuff is on the table.
You know, I do think for your own team, if
it is shucked, if it is like if one guy's
convincingly better, I think you got to roll with one
just just for the future of the franchise. But no,
I can't roll that out at all. And I think
there could be some benefits of that for sure. You know,
you got two young guys if they're both not the
worst starter in the league. Like, there is some trade
bags there somewhere.
Speaker 3: Let's get away real quick and sorry, Flynn from the
quarterback or position, would you agree that maybe like the
key position battles here in camp are going to be
corner and maybe defensive tackle. Is there somewhere else that
you would go if I gave you an option?
Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive tackle one is is a monster, especially adding
Bothered to that mix. And it's really interesting because like
they went out and they got Burnon Broughton. I don't
think anyone's talking early about Jonah Williams, but he was
getting starter snatched there in mini camp. That's another guy
they brought in. Then they bring in Ballard, Like it
kind of feels like they're remaking that position, and Colin
Saunders and Nathan Shepherd are like significantly unnoticed at least,
you know, from from my point of view, that's how
it looks. We know braz is going to be in
that mix, so they they've brought in three, like one
of those guys I would probably guess like doesn't make
the team. Like, So I think that's that's a really
good battle right there. I think wide receiver, three, four, five,
like those are all all pretty pretty good battles. I
think Cooks probably has three wrapped up. But you know,
Kevin Austin Junior is a guy that I I've like
quite a bit. Mason Tipton always practice as well. Maybe
he puts it together. There's a good battle there running
back to a really good one behind Alvin. I don't
know that we you don't have any idea who that's
gonna be. And I think safety's kind of interesting too.
I've written off shortened Howsen a little bit just based
on the usage last year, and then we go out
to ok his mini camp and he's the starting safety
alongside Justin Reid. So you know that that one's gonna
be really interesting too. But you mentioned corner. I think
Quincy Riley, you know, and I got him is one
of the more interesting things. And I think that carries
long term implications. Do if Quincy Riley's any good Like
maybe you got a starter her there. So yeah, I mean,
I think there's like a lot of a lot of
competitions the punter battles to like that that's way down
the list, but you know, they bring in a burn
up and he was one of the better hunters. And
I think there's one at kicker too, Charlie Smith. That
the guy from Ireland. We've seen him hit like seventy
two yard field goals in practice and you know, kind
of the trajectory. Last year was the first time he
ever played football in his life, and like the ball
would kind of come off funny and like curve. And
we go out there this year and like these things
are straight darts. And they got that Coles kicking camp
going on right now, and there's all these NFL kickers
out there, and I heard like on day one he
won the field goal competition against like legitimate NFL starters.
So I think that's a good battle too.
Speaker 5: All right, Nick, we had earlier in the show he
had will clap on uh kind of talking kind of
recapping like his time back in New Orleans and kind
of off season and what they've been doing. And we
were asking like some point of questions about OTAs in
mini camp and he referred to it as golf season. So,
like they said, the guy's playing a lot of golf.
So what's the like, where do they go? What's their
golf courses of choice in the New Orleans area. I'm
sure they got to get there kind of quick and
come back. What are we doing with playing TPC? Where
are they headed?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 4: You were asking absolutely, it's like asking me that question,
But I'm sure they're talking about it like in the
locker room after practices and then meet me, meet me here.
Speaker 2: So two things. I've never played golf in my life.
I've never asked a golf question in my life except
to Jake Hayner, who I've been told that he is
a more talented natural golfer than he is anything else
he does in his Some people that have seen him golf,
I swear that he has a legitimate future in the
in the PJ if he ever wants to go that direction.
I talked to him about that like it's like get
way on the road. I think it's something that that
he would actually consider, Like I've seen videos of like
hole and ones that that he's gotten before. Like I
think he's like a legitimate good golfer, but like as
far as you know, golf steps or whatever, like, no,
I have no, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Come on, Nick, thank you?
Speaker 6: Nick.
Speaker 5: Can you please just ask Jake about it. Maybe he
can come on this show and talk about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know modeling, it might be something
else for Hainter too.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna leave out one alone.
Speaker 6: Relationship.
Speaker 3: I don't know you. Last year you looked like Joey
Lawrence's little photo shoot that he did. Uh, speaking of
like photo shoots and modeling, Alanja sentes this right when
you were coming on. The Saints just released another brand
new uniform. It looks like black helmets the one that
they've worn over the last couple of years, gold jerseys,
and black pants. So the Saints get another uniform.
Speaker 2: Combo let me, Uh, I have not seen this, so
I got to see it.
Speaker 3: Okay, we knew something about the same that first time
that's ever happened. Well done, done, line.
Speaker 2: Golf, golf and fashion man, Like I'm like you guys,
all right, I'm looking at it. I like it. I
like it. I hate that black helmet still, like I
don't like the like the thick, the thick mohawks thing
going down the middle, Like I don't like it. Yea,
the gold don't match. They never do, Like I don't
understand why they can't figure this out, Like this is
uh yeah, it's not bad. I don't love it though.
Speaker 3: It's like you go to Low's and you put it
under the little microscope and it like tells you the
color match, and you get the paint from the sample
that you bring in. Just put the gold under the
color match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not that hard. Like you only got
to take it like a flight too, Like you get
a little piece they got you.
Speaker 5: I do know from my experience with the Raiders and
the State. I do know golds and silver, like anything shiny,
is hard to match from two different materials. Sure, and
you can obviously see this, but like I'm looking at
Brandon Cook's picture there, Davis Well, I know a second ago.
But like the single white skinny wristband is it was
a choice for the modeling picture. That's the first thing
that popped out today is like, I don't know if
that works. Maybe not have the white T shirt underneath either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sure. The sleeves hanging out the jersey.
Speaker 6: Yeah that's a nasty look.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, I think he's I think he's a little
bit swagger than that too.
Speaker 2: It's like Khaki and gold though, like it's not even close,
Like maybe maybe you don't try to get it close
so that it's just clear that you weren't trying to
match it.
Speaker 6: I don't know, sure, doers Khaki? All right?
Speaker 3: You know, we'll continue to break it down. We broke
news to Nick. That feels like a big win forro
TV today. Nick, you're the man. We appreciate it every
single week. Look forward to it at every Tuesday, certainly
here during training camp and like I said, the thirtieth,
so a little bit over a week today. I look
forward to seeing you down there in New Orleans four camp.
Speaker 2: All right, man, I'll see you done here all right.
Speaker 3: That is Nick Underhill, New Orleans dot Football good enough
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves, gets off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 7: No longer.
Speaker 6: Side inside back in.
Speaker 5: That was a good three interviews in a row, basically, Yeah,
it was. Well, we had that one, We had that
thirty second segment in the dream.
Speaker 3: Well again we have Blake. We weren't gonna like go
short with Blake Baker coffee, empty SAT uniforms.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is gross. Those are nasty, like the first one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're gonna wear the all white. They're gonna
wear the all white with the uh the color rush.
So I was excited that they changed the helmet like this,
this black helmet. Just what the mohawks, the little mohawks
just too thick.
Speaker 8: They first announced like they were coming out with an alternate.
I was thinking, okay, what if they did white helmet,
gold jersey so they didn't have to match because they
never match anyways with like white pants, and like, I
didn't even like that. But I do not like the
golden black at all. I would prefer the golden white.
Speaker 5: I like the picture of the Mario better than Brandon Cooks.
I like the like the sleeve actually kind of looks
really good with this uniform that kind of pops a
little bit to me.
Speaker 6: I hate the mohawk. What are the pants? You know
they're black? Let me get back to the Brandon Cooks
one yep, okay, okay, all right, we can only see it.
Speaker 3: They're just playing.
Speaker 6: They're just playing.
Speaker 3: Guys wet. It's like, let me put it on this.
I mean that's because these are god yeah, I don't know, man,
I had high host.
Speaker 7: You nailed it just about as much as the Saints snail.
Speaker 5: Come on, it's way better in the Saint's uniforms.
Speaker 3: I just like the the helmet is is horrible.
Speaker 8: It's not gold.
Speaker 3: Chase, get a bigger helmet too that it's not like
it doesn't fit. That's way too small. Yeah, who fitted
him not.
Speaker 5: Streams probably, I don't know, so his grandfather into that one.
Speaker 3: The Saints have, in my opinion, some of the best uniforms,
yes in the NFL, like when they don't mess with them, right,
if you wanted to do something different, like I would
have been in favor of like the Cajun cannon era
uniforms where you had the state of Louisiana on the
sleeve and like a bigger Florida leaves like something like
like that, Like you don't have to try to reinvent
the wheel with the same uniform.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think with the color scheme, anytime you have gold, silvers,
black stuff like that, it's like hard to get it right,
but when you get it right, it's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So if you're gonna do something different, I agree with you.
Make make it to where people can't complain. Put a
big old Louisiana flag on it or something like a
typical cap to Louisiana, and then nobody can't really complain
about that.
Speaker 3: Because like, look at that uniform right there, the CA
cann So. I like the Jersey.
Speaker 8: I do not like that Saint Seligo on the south
of the helmet.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I love that. I love the big Florida.
It's just like it's Plaine. It's just right to the
think that's my thing. Maybe it's just like a little
antique look to it. That's a much better uniform. I
hate these, You hate those?
Speaker 7: No, no, no, I like that.
Speaker 3: I hate the alternate.
Speaker 7: Uniform yeah, or the color rush like it's just well
And the problem is they've tried this exact thing before
and it didn't work.
Speaker 8: Then now they went with their normal gold helmets. But
they've done the gold with the black numbers before and
it didn't work.
Speaker 3: It's just like an ugly gold too. It's not it's
not Saint's gold.
Speaker 7: And I actually think that it's hard to mess up
a black or a gold uniform, like that's gonna look
sick regardless.
Speaker 3: But the Saints, somehow, just like.
Speaker 7: The organization right now, find a way to mess it up.
Speaker 5: Okay, Can I just side note here, that's the second
time you said organization today.
Speaker 3: Wait, how do you say it? Organization?
Speaker 6: Organization?
Speaker 3: Organization, organization, Yeah, twice today.
Speaker 7: I didn't realize that that was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I was just curious about it.
Speaker 7: Organization now, But okay, hold on, you said organization organization,
organization versus organization.
Speaker 3: I don't know. No eats me anyway.
Speaker 7: I just thought it was English was not my first language.
Speaker 3: It's very fair. It wasn't. It's mine And I still
screwed up all the time, and I talked six hours
a day minimum. So who among us?
Speaker 5: Among us? But yeah, I mean Saints uniforms. When they
get it right, it's awesome. Yeah, when they get it's
easy to get it wrong though in their defense. But
like to counterpoint you, if the Saints are well wearing it,
then it is Saints gold.
Speaker 3: Fair just had the.
Speaker 8: Same I guess that was what that was what they
were in Brooks. Like they basically just brought back the
same year.
Speaker 6: God, that is awful.
Speaker 3: That is too bad. I don't like it.
Speaker 5: Is that helmet yellow, that's their normal gold that.
Speaker 7: I also hate the current like the helmet that they
you put on that one like, I don't like all
the tiny little Florida levees.
Speaker 6: No, Well, that uniform right there, that's as good as
Reebok could do.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I hated free little free back gloves, terrible cleats,
terrible everything, terrible workout gear, cloth T shirts because they
didn't have like uh oh, they didn't have like compression. No,
not the time.
Speaker 5: Who were we talking to ahead, who were we talking
to it? Sec media day? We were asking about their
uniforms and they were like, yeah, we used to be
Nike and then we were reboting now we're new balanced
or no, now that now we're Russell.
Speaker 3: It was we're talking about it doraded like whatever. When
Cole was there, we were talking about like, yeah, that's right,
they went from Nike to like something to Russell. Now
that they're Nike again, now okay, so that they were Russell.
They were Russell when he was there, like Russell athletic.
I bet those were cozy.
Speaker 5: Them in the Hubert Husky's and Tyler Texas in nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 3: Middle school we had I think we had we either
had Russell or Rydale uniforms that evangel it was an R.
I don't remember which R it was though.
Speaker 6: I was trying. I think, yeah, did Rydal have helme
they were.
Speaker 3: Just helmets, right, I think they had uniforms.
Speaker 5: I know they had that nasty red and blue are Russell?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the eagle eagle and the logo. We hey, we
were the Eagles. We were red and blue. So Russell
makes more sense. Maybe right down? All right, so we're
out on the same uniform. Thumbs down, everybody thumbs down.
I feel like not great. I feel like Hunt Palmer
right now, but thumbs down, super.
Speaker 5: Last one, last one up, the last altar well two
weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, let's put look.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't want to be biased. Uh, I love yeah,
I love every one of the Chargers uniforms. I don't
love the all yellow that they're that they introduced this year.
I love the Navy to throw back to the days.
I love those. I don't love the all yellow. No, No,
I like the like the touch of the white yellow white.
They going all yellow. That's too much, so I want
to make sure I get that out there too. The
Chargers have some of the best uniforms in the league,
and they had to miss with the all yellow. So
it happens. The Navy's fire though. I do like the
old Navy that they brought back to make news.
Speaker 5: But you got to take your shot. Yeah, you miss
one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Of the they did. Oh it's a lot of yellow.
It is so much yellow, all right? Uh, speaking of chargers,
I do I promise I want to play this video
when we come back. My guy PR seventeen made it official.
He is now fully retired. We'll play the video react
to it when we come back here on OTV.
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Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown LSU football
like only champions camps always.
Speaker 3: Thanks John all right, welcome back in OTV one of
four five ESPN Baton Rouge and we lost. You know,
the hope to see my gout p R. Seventeen on
a football field again yesterday because like the last two
years since he's been retired, it's been like whatever team
had like a quarterback injury and they were like a
team that maybe could make the postseason, still had some hope,
like his name would come up and he's coaching high
school football and so he was out there working with
his son. Gunner felt like he could come in. Look
at the guy. Never never saw actually warm up anyway,
so you know, maybe he could have come in. He
could have played a couple of weeks and like now
that is over because Philip Rivers officially retired yesterday, So
I did, look, I want to pay respects to my guy.
Uh longest quarterback I ever had in my career. And
just play his h his video and you know, just
a couple of Philip Rivers moments after we play it here,
Rivers gives the sprolls hat that Home Colts playoff game.
Speaker 9: We got it out. I left slot thirty ISO walk off.
Speaker 3: That moment was dang. I mean, like I can, I.
Speaker 9: Can get there and hurry even O six Cincinnati Bengal
come back. Incredible, the Big Women thirteen at Denver. Yeah,
on a Thursday night twenty eighteen in arrowhead Mike catching
them back to back, you know, touchdown on the back
shoulder and then the two point players they left him
wide open.
Speaker 3: Goes fast Rivers. So and that was just a short clip.
They had like a four minute video and I'd encourage
everybody go check it out if you just want to
watch somebody that loved football, like to the whatever, like
the highest degree was. That's a man that I think
would have played for like a base salary of like
what an everyday nine to five is like that man
would have played football. I'll be honest with you. I
liked football. I did not love it like Philip Rivers did.
And so like you saw the emotion there and being
his teammate, that's something that's something you see every single day.
That man loved to just be out there and touching grass.
And now he's a high school football coach. He cuts
his own grass for the high school football team. He
does the laundry for the football team, just like his
dad did. And Alabama growing up, and that man always said,
that's what I want to do. That is like when
I retire, I want to be that guy. That's who
he is now. And he's got a little program in
Fair Hope, Alabama, and they don't have the numbers and
they don't have the Jimmies and Joe's that all those
people in that area, and that area is Spanish Fort
and Daphne and all those mobile Alabama schools. It's a
really tough place to play golf. Who's got like this
brand new school and Orange Beach has a new school.
So that's who they play, and they're very competitive and
you can you can tell with like one conversation with
Philip Rivers like what the game of football means to him.
And so it was fun to kind of he mentioned
the eight walk off. That was the only time in
my football career, Like we had like a true baseball
walk off, like it was in the playoffs. It was overtime,
it was thirty iso Sprosey takes it to the house.
We were eight and eight, they were thirteen and three
or twelve and four, I can't remember. But because we
won the division, they had to come to us in
the playoffs, and so we walked them off And just
one of the many moments we had there in San Diego.
Speaker 5: We had a one of our coaches in Green Bay,
an assistant coach. Every week we like have an opportunity
to address the team on Friday or Saturday before the game,
just like you know, Mike McCarthy was big on like
let's let's bring up our coaches. Let's let them get
experience so they can move on in their career. Yeah
to coach one time that stood up there and talked
about yeah, everyone's heard this, and like inspirational speakers. But
like in professional football, so much different. Professional sports is
so much different than anything because like figure out your
your why why do you play, Why do you put
it all out there?
Speaker 6: Why do you try? It doesn't matter what it is.
Speaker 5: Some people it's family, some people it's because they want
to be superstars. Some people it's because they want to
make money. Some people it's the love of the game.
And it doesn't matter what it is. But whatever it is,
focus on it and do your best to get there.
And it's so in professional football it's crazy because like,
oh my god, like you never say I play for money.
I never play for stardom, but some people do, and
that's okay as long as they play hard, right, But
Philip Rivers is one of these content guys. Like, of
course he made his money and he did all that
from the business side of things that set up his family,
but he truly played for the love of the game.
And as a quarterback I always inspired me. And he's
one of those guys that everyone always looked up to
that played the game the right way, talked trash and
never said a curse word, which is hard.
Speaker 6: And probably a lot of people laughed at him, but like,
for the most part, it probably.
Speaker 3: Hit Yeah, he cut deep man without saying a curse word,
like that man would cut deep.
Speaker 5: I know, it's what's wild, but like and so you know,
hats off to him, a true legend. Be Like he
told me he retired, I was like who's retiring next,
like Joe Montanna or something.
Speaker 6: It feels like he's been out.
Speaker 3: Of the has been like this will be year number three.
But he was that guy, you know what it is,
Like he'd get calls like, hey, what do you think
about coming here? And he selective and obviously I'm sure
you know, he only got to an AFC championship game,
never got to a Super Bowl, so like that was
a dream and maybe's and even when he went to
Indy that year, like they made the playoffs and they
won a postseason game, or at least I think they
maybe went to Buffalo and gave him hell or something,
did something, and like he was always close but never
got to you know, the mountaintop there, so but truly old.
Like this is somebody that signed multiple one hundred million
dollars contracts, right and he had the same King Ranch
black four truck the entire time I knew him, and
I saw him maybe twenty twenty one, twenty two, We're
down there at the beach and he was driving something else.
I'm like, oh, you finally got rid of the old
f two fifty King Ranch. He goes, noah, bo, that
thing's parked up at the beach house. That's just like
that's just like who He didn't.
Speaker 6: Really need that trade in value.
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true, But that's just that's kind of
who he was. And like the first thing that he
spent like on his house in Fair Hope, Alabama, had
to tell you like priorities for him. He built a
football field in his backyard. That's what he did, built
a football field for his you know, for the crew.
Speaker 6: The second was probably the Japanese toilet.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming probably, yes, no doubt about it. He seems
like a big Japanese toilet.
Speaker 5: Daniel in the chat said Flynn has cursed more on
this show than Rivers ever did in his career.
Speaker 3: That's true, That's very true. Is like I told his
story before, but and this is such bad human being stuff.
But like we raised a lot of money one time,
like thousands of dollars and they're like, hey, Phil, say
a cuss word, say one say one curse word, and no, man,
I ain't gonna do it.
Speaker 6: He's a a all right, what crap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a lot of a lot of goll
Lee got Lee was was the go to Golee was
the go to so shout out to p R seventeen.
Shout out to a fantastic career. I think he'll eventually
get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But doing
exactly what he wants to do, what he's always wanted
to do when he was done playing, coaching high school
football and doing it from aspect, doing laundry, mowing the grass.
Speaker 6: I see it. Maybe you're doing for the cameras every
now and then.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you he this man, no doubt wired differently.
I don't who wants to cut the grass? Well, Taylor,
there's wants to cut the ground. Guys were cutting the
grass today. I was upset we couldn't get it done yesterday.
Speaker 6: Today.
Speaker 5: It's like movie situation there, like the head coach cutting
the grass.
Speaker 3: Yeah you did.
Speaker 6: I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: All right, we will step away and when we come back,
we'll wrap up today's show. Getting to your questions. We'll
ask the bench when we come back on one of
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Speaker 6: I thought you met like I thought it was track one.
Speaker 7: I just wait, like in the order of your favorite Yeah, okay,
I thought you meant like this is actually the last
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Speaker 7: I think this is my favorite Oasis song. Yes, but
this is the last track of the album.
Speaker 6: Anybody want to tour to France update?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure.
Speaker 6: Today a legendary mountain climb mont von.
Speaker 3: Two is that like the most.
Speaker 5: They do that every year pretty much, and it's like
it's just famous. It's a famous climb, surprice surprise, Todday
versus yonis right now.
Speaker 6: I guess today's in front.
Speaker 8: Yeah, anyone that knows what today's ass looks like more
than this other guy.
Speaker 6: Every don't tell me about him.
Speaker 5: He's like everything, all right, So Todday legendary. I mean,
guy's gonna go down as probably the greatest rider of
all time. Who knows he's on the fast track unless
he like crashes in like breaks his collar bone or something,
which could happen pretty likely if they fall off a
six inch board, they'll break their collar bone. But he's
up by over four minutes right now. I think he
increases lead back a couple of seconds. Today only five
five stages left. The guy looks unstoppable. He's on four
stages already this two. Let Todd, they try, and they're trying.
He's just solid. He won the he won the time
trial in the Mountains individual time trial. He's not even
it's not even the time trial special. I mean he
wanted about a lot too. Yeah, Like Jonas is awesome.
Jonas the next best guy.
Speaker 6: Oh shoot, I think he's a.
Speaker 3: Uh it sounds very I believe.
Speaker 5: Okay, what things a slow bo okay like in the
time trial in the mountains goes amazing.
Speaker 6: He's one of the two.
Speaker 5: He beat the third best guy by like a minute
or forty five second or something better than anybody else
in this time trial. And it's like a ton of writers.
And then to Day beat Jonas by like forty five
more seconds. So he's just that much better than everybody.
Speaker 2: He's the goat.
Speaker 6: He's the goat.
Speaker 7: He might be better than Lance Arms.
Speaker 6: Wait, all right, he will be Yeah, he will.
Speaker 3: Be asked the benches Flend's music knowledge or T Bob's
geography knowledge?
Speaker 6: Actually got pretty good music?
Speaker 3: Geography is real bad.
Speaker 5: I got my God, must have spent a little more
time on you. I got that one mixed up. That's okay,
tell me that's on me.
Speaker 7: I meant.
Speaker 5: Was honestly, I was pretty disappointed about it, So respect
to myself. Credit to myself for that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ask the bench, do you hate it when you
get back from vacation? And someone asked, so, when's the
next vacation? So with that said, when's the next vacation.
I do.
Speaker 6: I love it, don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know that we I don't know. I know
I don't have I have the days to take. But
when you get back from media days, it's typically like
you can get a day or two like we did,
and then it's like, hey, Bud, you're you're in it,
like a day here or there if you need one,
or if you have something to come up. Family wise,
for sure, school activity, the kids are doing something in school, whatever.
Speaker 5: But uh, now we here early in the season. I
do have a potential. We have a Oh god, I
told you this. Our twenty ten Super Bowl team, we
have a reunion game early in the season, and we
didn't get to do it because of that damn COVID. Right,
we didn't get to do it in twenty twenty. Right,
So we're trying to get it together this year, so.
Speaker 6: We'll stay tuned for them.
Speaker 3: I think I felt like that was pretty excusable, very
very much, so asked the bench. Do you think Blake
Baker will be a major college or pro head coach
one day?
Speaker 8: Yes, that Blake Baker is going to stay as fellow
shoes and defensive quarter.
Speaker 3: Reasons if he ever if he ever would stay somewhere,
it would be coordinated.
Speaker 5: Last last thought of the day for me. Cam Jordan
put out a tweet yesterday that said, chuck me the money.
Do you think he knows it's pronounced shuck because it
looks like show. So does Shuck really have a good
relationship with his teammates?
Speaker 3: Sounds like people are asking.
Speaker 5: People are asking because if you don't know how shucked
me the money, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 6: Cam, you must not know him.
Speaker 3: R Well, if you don't give a name, we don't give.
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