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Speaker 3: Yesterday and listening.
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Speaker 1: And now you're hosts Cliff Berkman and James Bubo Fay
and Bobo has the prestigious position in my phone above.
Speaker 3: Another gentleman named Bongo's Bobo is wedged between Bobcat gold
Twade and Bongo in my phone context. Here, let's see.
Speaker 4: They want to be on a phone range that I
asked you. I'll probably get that in a message banks
the mailboxes.
Speaker 3: Well I cannot accept any mess of course. All right,
that's one way to avoid work. One week later, Hey,
so hey Bobes, what's happening to man Cliff? Nothing, just
doing the podcast as I do this last week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I was here, I was ready, and I
was outside. I was doing stuff around the house. And
you saw our house. I could like that, like the
laundry room in the garage, like and this connected a
little little walkway.
Speaker 3: No, I've never been there.
Speaker 4: I thought I thought it came by.
Speaker 3: Nope, that was in me. There must have been someone
who would just like me.
Speaker 4: Oh, you know, it was rowdy. Actually, I guess it
was rowdy. Anyways, I was gonna go. I was gonna
leave after I did some stuff like do some weeding
or whatever. So I was gonna go out to the
door that i'd set my stuff down in the in
the laundry room that I went out that way into
the backyard. It's between the garage and the house. And
I didn't I left that the doors were open, and
then the well, the window was open, and then the
door was open, and it was pretty windy, like it
was just starting it at windy, and it like it
just this gush just came through and just slammed the door.
And it's it doesn't even it's not even a locking handle.
It's one of those little flapper you know, those little
flowers that comes that go over and like you just
like when you close the door, it's like a little
brass and you just it's like a little gate that
swings over and you click it down and like you know,
it's like an extra door block. There's no key to it.
It's just you know, I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: It sounds complex, man, I don't know, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 4: Like like hotel doors, like hotel doors have sometimes it's
like just like it's like a it's a rectangle. It's
like it's like a it's just like a hinge. But
there's no it's like you bolt it onto the on
the doorframe and then the little like brass plate swings
out in front the door then slides down and clicks in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like some some bathroom stalls have them.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's slammed. It's just slat. I guess it
slams so hard that the thing freaking like lock like
it said, it clicked in on its own, and I
and my keys were in there. I couldn't get in
the house.
Speaker 3: So Karta leaves for a little while and that you
immediately get locked out of the house.
Speaker 4: Huh dude. So by the time I then I finally
figured out how to get in, and I went and
got some they're building a house down the next blockdown.
I went down there and got some flashing, some aluminum
flashing like strips, and came and just jacked around and
I probably got to slide in and I got I got,
I popped it up. Then I called you guys. What
you guys were already over it.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure you should ever put flashing and strip
in the same sentence. Get me twenty Well, anyway, I'm
glad you're back anyway, but I'm glad that it's so.
Cred is home. She got you in the house for
about a week or something.
Speaker 4: I got I got in on my own.
Speaker 3: Oh good good. Yeah, because I know you, I know
you know how to break into a house.
Speaker 4: That's that was a pretty easy one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean I know you all, and that's
I mean, not that you commit crimes or anything, but
I know that's how you arsky to Sergio for example.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't had a Bobo story time and quite
a long time. There's been a lot of requests, and
I think maybe the topic of breaking and entering probably
conjures a few memories to mind.
Speaker 3: Jeez, as Assatue the limitations expired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to remember. Any description of felonious or
criminal activity is being told here strictly for entertainment purposes,
and it is in no way admission of guilt or
even true for that matter.
Speaker 3: There you go, perfect. We should have one of those
in front of every episode. I think I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: Well, gather around. It's Bobo story, dude, he go see
some things.
Speaker 2: That'll blow me O my classic an any scene he's lying,
He's gone a kid kill me high clear on skin.
Speaker 1: It's Bobo story. Any description of felonious or criminal activity
is being told here strictly for entertainment purposes, and is
in no way to a mission of guilt or even
true for that matter.
Speaker 4: I actually was a part of the breaking, but I
was with a group of guys and we were down
in Mexico and winter and Baja, and we were just
partying super hard, like all college guys. Like we weren't
even we were like a nineteen twenty There was one
guy that was twenty one. And we went down and
we were just raging, and we ended up going to
San Miguel and we were there was six of us
in a four tourist wagon. I think I think it
was Yeah, I think I think it was a Turust wagon.
It was like a it was like a small mid
size station wagon. I gotta figure out, gotta remember which
one it was. Anyways, so we took it across. Well,
first we bought insurance at the border, like we got
that insurance to covery. If you go into the it
says right on like not balid for rental cars. And
we had this guy, So, this guy, Chad was from China.
He didn't really speak any English. I think I told
this on the show already.
Speaker 1: I've never heard it before.
Speaker 4: Well, we were down in Baja just like partying around
like en sonata and rosatos and that holds down like
and we didn't make any shurt boards. We had too
many people. We had so we had four guys in
this like small compact station wagon like store is like
six nine two seventy five. There was me and Aduced
like the same size as me, like pretty much all
the dudes like Jones was like we were all over
two hundred pounds, like pretty big dudes. And we had
this small guy from China who was he had rich
parents and he didn't All I could say was cuss words.
He couldn't really say too much, just like f you
and son of a you know, like he knew he
knew stuff like that and effort and you know, and
and then like he and that's the only thing you
could understand out of the guy. We got him to
rent the car. They got him to rent the car
and they were at Kyle poly Sons abyss sore. They
picked me up. They stopped down and picked me up.
It's another breaking an entering story. So anyways, Uh, they
came down and picked up me and another one other guy.
We jumped in with them down in La There was
there was four of them and they picked up us too,
and we were gonna camp. Somebody had like a couple
of sleeping bags and those guys are gonna buy like
those hawk in the wool blankets, you know at the border.
Like it was. It was pretty not well thought out trip.
And so we we got the insurance. We got the
total coverage, like ten thousand dollars coverage, like this is sweet,
and so we went down we were we just started
like like just thrashing the car just like you know,
like hitting stuff and like you know, jumping it off
little jumps and like if there was a place to watch,
we'd watch. And then uh, we were always dog piling
because we were pigeons. Then we were then we were
gonna make chad and egg, which is their first step
in a pigeon hood. What the tails is just getting
dog piled like over and over and over. It's like
guys just bringing like pro wrestling music dropping down like
atomic elbows and stuff, and just so everyone was dog
piling them. And then he made a run for the
car and then somehow ended up we all ended up
dog piling the car and like breaking the root, like
cracking the windshield in the in the in the rear window,
like we broke those because the jumping up and down.
We all started jumping on the top of the roof
of the car and like we're like, well, it's insure.
Like once we started like thrashing it, we're just like, well,
as well, just you know, keep keep thrashing it, and
we're gonna we'll just you know, file the in sheriffs
and we'll make money on this. Still we're at ten thousand, Like, yeah,
this car was like but I think the Blue Bagon
was like sixty four hundred or sixty. This is like
she's forty years ago. So we were down in balls
like raging, like just drinking up a storm and like
just pounding beers everywhere, like we have tequila bottles and
just causing mayhem. So yeah, we just kept like we
kept like just so we thrashed the car you know,
then it wasn't running to like it started like steaming
and stuff like I think we cracked the reader a
little bit.
Speaker 3: It sounds like it was running too hot, honestly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh so we were we were sam Agulla
started running ran like the wind picked up. It was
like heavy heavy on shore when there was no surface
at all on the camera, I was empty, and we're
just like sitting there freeze because you gets even though
I were things like, oh, Mexico, it's warmer and where
it's like they just a blow of San Diego a
few miles and it's it gets cold down there. And
so we're and so those guys go walking off and
they walk across the little river there and went into
this housing community and and Jones just walks up to
this condo and just kicks the door and it flies
open and we go in there and like it was
like stocked with food like booze, and we was like
just started like helping ourselves. Like I didn't feel good
about it. I was like, this is wrong, Like I
don't want to. I don't want to. So I ended
up going back out in the car and sleeping in
the car. I felt, I mean I wasn't there for
a little bit. Then I saw Jones peeing on a wall.
I was like, oh no, this is going to get ugly.
Then those guys just ended up like I hate vandals
and vandalids and I can't stand it, but those guys
pretty much vandilize this place. So they came back in
the morning like just super hungover, and just so everyone
started drinking again. Then next thing, you know, like the
Jones was the ring leader on all this thrashing stuff.
He just takes the the advisor in the passenger's seat,
like the visor falling down and blockings you see, just
like tore it off. Then he reached over and tore
off the drivers went and threw him out the window.
And it was like we started laughing, like we ripped
off the door, like the window over lovers, Like everything
I could get pulled off got pulled off and thrown
up the window like which seemed like a great idea
at the time. And so we come back and uh,
we we crossed the border and they're just like looking
at us like, oh my god, like you guys are
a mess. You know, he comes driver comes driving through.
Then we go to that little it's like it was
like a little kiosk booth in a parking lot. There's
like totally metal bars all over it, and you know
it's like in a fat neighborhood, like right across the border.
We go up there and we're just you know, like
open beers. Just we go to the guy and said,
we need a file on insurance claim on this. We
got we got. You guys know, it was ten thousand dollars
and store was it was like six'. Nine he was
was From, germany so he had custom and he'd get
these Custom adidas over In germany that were like size
eighteen or something seventeens or. Whatever they were like these
big custom shoes and we were like we were kicking the.
Cock we just. Tried we try to Like dan every
like we made sure there was not one piece of
the car that wasn't dented. In like we were kicking
the sides and we're we're gonna get our moneys were
so we just beat The convias bunch as possible and
we all were Switch we got to switch down because
the roof was came. In it's like we're all like
kind of sink down our sheets to fit in there
and we go there and the guy comes out and
it comes out and looks at the, car, goes come,
here any points at. Stork he, goes come here and
he walks. Over he, goes look up your looks up your.
Foot he grabs his. Foot he puts it next to
the door and it's a perfect match in the desk
like this seventeen side Seventeen adida shoe like fully on the,
door like the door panels and shot like you see
what it totally got where he, like you, know did
some docky, kicks like you, know his his back trying
to just did a couple of docky kicks and like
kicked in one of the couple of. Doors so the,
guy you guys did, This we're, like, no we. Didn't
we got we got hit and the car rolled over
and because he's like the rifts caved. In we're, like,
yeah we like we got, rolled we got, hit we
got side ship, whatever we got t bone and we
rolled the car and that's why all the like everything
got torn, out like all the we were holding on
like ad visors and, door the, door, window roller over
deals and like that's how they all got torn. Off
and you, guys just get the hell out of. Here
i'm not giving you a, penny and was like what you,
Know so like we were like trying to. Thread i'm, like,
oh you, know there's like you get beat it in little.
Gringos so they ran us, off like, shoot well we
gotta then, like well there's a there's a rental policy
comes in the, car and so they went back and
we're like so we went. Up we went back up To,
Manhattan we went to the we were just like went
to this restaurant out of the kettle and we were
down like trying to think of a game kind of
like we'll shoot like those were those guys ting aaually
sounds to this when this car wasn't, running like it
wasn't going to make it up. There so we were
trying to brainstrow them and, said, well we just got
to apply for we got to apply for, insurance like
through the rental. Agency so we Had, chad you, know
like we had to help because he didn't really Speak
english and fill out like then the cops. Came we, said,
yeah we said we were involved in a hit and.
Running this car hit a single rolled and that's why
every thinking the whole car smashed completely from top of
the bottom like they do like the head laft For
we were also like running over stuff and next clock
on the side of the road like, whatever like just.
Trash this Was jones again when he was, driving like
drove over like some mailboxes and all it's like the
headlights were smashed, out the windows were all cracked and,
spiderwebbed you, know the tail lights was knocked, out like
there was no lights on the. Car and so, yeah
we went and we went and called the, cops and
the cops. Came we were all telling the sayings stort like, yeah,
yeah we got s we got we got t bone
in the car rolled and.
Speaker 5: They so then we We've then they Had chad for
up the the report and the accident, report and as
soon as he signed, it they slapped the cuffs on
and said we're rescuing for false whatever whatever like a false.
Speaker 4: Report and So chad was got thrown in jail right,
then and then he had to call his. Dad his
dad was some like, diplomat got like some big wig
like rich dude From, china and he's like what you
guys like he and then And chad couldn't talk to
the police like like we were doing all the like you,
know saying it like you, know say anything for him and,
uh but they only arrested him and his dad had
to pay off the car like to get. Him like
his dad just paid for the car, outright like just bought.
It so we ended up like buying that car we,
had we got. It his dad has bought it like
to get him out of the amo out of, trouble
and he still got in. Trouble but, yeah so that
was that was that. Trip that was a little breaking and.
Speaker 3: Entering stay tuned for More bigfoot And beyond With cliff And.
Bobo will be right back after these.
Speaker 1: Messages is that happened to be the same trip that
you sent me pictures from the other.
Speaker 4: Day that's a different.
Speaker 1: One, WELL i will still post one or two of
those pictures for the pigeons since it does go along
with the.
Speaker 3: Theme uh, yeah bunch of nerdy wells, MAN i.
Speaker 4: Know it was really, galous like none of none of
us would like have done all that with him if
he wasn't the one doing.
Speaker 1: It did you get that PICTURE i Sent cliff to
picture you sent me Of Bobo's baha.
Speaker 3: Adventure i'm not. Sure hold on a. Second oh, yeah
that's very. Classy. Bows, yeah you're holding a bayana right.
There you got a knife in your. Mouth was a?
Bag is that? Bread probably from the? Pandurrehea oh, yeah,
yeah you look slightly not.
Speaker 4: Sober i've had a, Few i'm sure. Definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah well you look, great, man you look, great very,
MULTINATIONAL a man of the world, exactly exactly the.
Speaker 1: World well that should satisfy some people's desire For bobo
storytime for for a little.
Speaker 4: Bit remind me of another break in ny? Store what
WAS i was? Good what WAS i forget what that one.
Was i'll think of it. Later all, right very?
Speaker 3: Good well what are we doing this week for this?
Speaker 1: Thing, well it is that time of the, month THE
q AND a. Time SO i do have a selection
of both written and voicemail submissions for. You so we'll
just a b. Those we'll start with the written. Submissions
so there's the first one for.
Speaker 3: You all, right you want to take that, One.
Speaker 4: Bobs let's see we got. Here cut my, Glasses ara
good aad From. Australia our male red kangaroos can get
pretty jacked over. Here and it got me thinking about
how many sasquat settings. Clean they too are built of
muscle on. Muscle how do you speculate that they maintain
that muscle? Tone are they out bench pressing tree trunks
and protein loading every few? Hours do you think they
need to work out it or they just predisposed that
Way they're.
Speaker 3: Predisposed oh, yeah make sure that there's whole lot of
animals are out there bench, pressing you, know other than
what they normally have to.
Speaker 4: Do, YEAH i mean, CLIMATE i mean climate is, good
great workout for. You and they, swim they, Run they just.
Living they get. IT i mean they're working, out just.
Speaker 3: LIVING i was in the woods yesterday for most of the.
Day actually took a film crew out. There and even
with the film crew tagging along behind, ME i came
back AND i can feel THAT i had a little
bit of workout. Yesterday you, know my legs are sore
and all that kind of. Stuff and you know that
happens every single week when they go out to the. Woods,
YEAH i think just being out in the, woods it's. Amazing,
actually you know WHAT i go, On like IF i
take a week off AND i go to the woods
and nobody can find me for a little little. Bit
WHEN i come, Back i'm automatically in better, shape And
i'm not living like an, animal does you. Know i've
got a cooler And i've got a kind of an
easy life considering how you, know all the other wild
animals and wildlife. Live but even THEN i come back
And i'm just frankly in better shape than WHEN i.
Left living outdoors and living in the woods literally makes
you in good. Shape SO i see no reason to
think that sasquatches be any different than.
Speaker 1: THAT i was just going to say.
Speaker 4: That and we know that they love steep. TERRAINS i
mean that really gives you a, Workout like like some
of those trails And Bluff peak are going down like
just practically vertical cliffs and going up, them you, know
like just you, know bee lining wherever they're, going just
going up and, climbing. Climbing, yeah they get they get
to work, out for.
Speaker 1: SURE i was chatting with one of our members the
other day, about you, know the build that witnesses described
and how interesting it is that those massive like traps
that seem to you, know connect so high up at
least seemly on the head or it's sort of like
the rear of the skull that gives that impression of
having no. Neck there must be something about their lifestyle
that puts a lot of pressure there that requires the
development and maintenance of those. Muscles and maybe it's That
ford lean that people always describe and having like a
big heavy head that's leaning forward and having that torso
tilted ford that that those are all stabilizers to keep
that head forward facing for bipedal. Locomotion but maybe there's
something else that they do that the occasional description that
witnesses have of, them like running on all fours or
putting their hands down to move or pulling themselves up
like you describe climbing up slopes grabbing. Trees but there
must be some selection pressure there that drives, that.
Speaker 4: Like sheroh's story up in The, marbles the thing climb
of those cliffs that came up from like two thousand people,
below just running and climbing the old.
Speaker 3: Time, YEAH i think the one of the best workouts
ever is off trail. Hiking you, know like people go
out walking and they go out maybe go out running
or something or jogging for, exercise but off trail hiking
has a lot going for, it and that's literally how
these things.
Speaker 4: Live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i was thinking about it the other day,
too driving, around especially in certain parts Of kentucky that's
like horse, country you, know around Like georgetown and all
that stuff where The Kentucky derby. Is you see all
these giant horses that are just completely, jacked just, ripped you,
know hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of pounds of muscle
and they eat, like, hey you, know what do you, think,
like what the hell do we need like wigh protein
and red meat and all this, stuff or if you
could maintain that kind of muscle mass with like grass, basically,
right what's.
Speaker 4: That big buffalo thing In india that the tigers take
down they looked at on? Steroids are those? Gar yeah
it's going like water buffalo? Thing but those, THINGS i,
mean those things just they look like they're. Fake they
look like a.
Speaker 1: Cartoon yeah it is. GAR i might not be pronouncing
that the rab it's gau. Are, yeah They're, god those things are. Massive,
yeah that's a. Vegetarian we've been lied to by the fitness.
Industry H hopefully that answers your question, There, Laura and
so here is there your first, voicemail a familiar and favorite.
Voice good, morning, gang little day FROM.
Speaker 4: La That's Lower.
Speaker 6: Alabama this, Year i'm going back To alaska on a.
Speaker 1: Cruise when we was.
Speaker 6: There in twenty twenty, THREE i read the Phenomenal, sasquatch excellent.
BOOK i enjoyed sitting on my deck early, morning sipping,
coffee reading the book and watching that gorgeous country just go.
By since we're going back this year In, july my
question is what other books SHOULD i. Take i've Read
Jeff mildram's, books several fiction, books BUT i would just
like to know what would be all suggestion for a
nice relaxing read While i'm there enjoying that. Country and
by the, WAY i talked to the naturalist on the
ship up About, sasquatch and he went into a lot
of the legend and lore with the indigenous tribes up.
There it was quite a good, talk thank. Y'all and
let's keep it.
Speaker 4: Squatchy glad to clarify THAT la Was Lower, alabama BECAUSE i,
thought for, sure song every other city slicker down In
La hollywood right.
Speaker 3: Exactly that's probably exactly where he was. Calling i'm assuming
that you've already Read Raincoaw sasquatch by Doctor Robert, alley
as well as his second. BOOK i think the second
book is Called brushes With, Bigfoot remember. RIGHT i would
definitely check out those because you're going to be in that,
country you might as well. Be you, know he did
Say alaska, cruise did he or DID i make that?
Speaker 4: Up? Yeah he?
Speaker 3: Did, okay that's WHAT i. THOUGHT i wasn't sure IF
i was making that up or, not but, YEAH i
would read those. BOOKS i think It's brushes With bigfoot
IF i remember. Right and of course on the cover
Of brushes With, bigfoot our Lovely murphy from The North
American Bigfoot center are Our bigfoot Model dwarings the, cover
so that's always kind of.
Speaker 4: Fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah WHEN i went on That alaska cruise in twenty nine,
TEEN i Brought Raincoast, sasquatch Which i'd read several. Times
but reading that In alaska is definitely way cooler than
reading it the lower forty Eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, YEAH i read it.
Speaker 4: When we were up there when we shot the. PILOT
i was reading.
Speaker 1: That book THAT i also went out there right when
in The valleys of The Noble. BEYOND i think it
had just been published and SO i picked that up
and read that on that trip, too which a lot
of that does take, place and it's mostly like COASTAL,
bc but still same general you, Know Sunshine. Coast so
that's another recommendation i'd throw in.
Speaker 3: There, yeah of course we Had, LYLE i mean anything By.
Lyle we had him on the podcast last week or
two weeks, ago so maybe that's a good. Thing but you,
know you Mentioned meldrum's. Book you didn't mention Doctor Grover krantz's,
book And i'm going to, say you got you gotta read.
That so but, again maybe we, could we could throw
lots and lots of books at. You but since you
are going To, alaska those are the top two brushes
With bigfoot And Raincoast. Sasquatch and for whatever it's, Worth
North American Bigfoot center has autographed copies of brushes With
bigfoot for just twenty five, bucks so maybe that's a
good place to buy.
Speaker 1: It EVEN i found a signed copy Of krantz's book In,
Juneo alaska on that same. Cruise oh that's cool for seven.
Bucks nice twas quite the. Score AND i already had
a signed copy THAT i had gotten In. Seattle SO
i gave that One, cliff And i've got The alaska
find on my.
Speaker 3: Shelf, yeah, fantastic there you. GO i think that's a
solid recommendation for. You all, Right so here is the
next written, question, okay and this one comes From Mark,
russell and he, asks my understanding is that chimps and
gorillas only touch things with their, fingertips and a full
handprint with the palm is a human like. Characteristic if
this is, correct then what does this tell us about
how sasquatches use their hands and what it suggests that
humans have a more recent common ancestor with bigfoots then
we do. Chimpanzees, WELL i don't know that to be, correct,
REALLY i, mean, honestly maybe it is. RIGHT i really
don't have any information on.
Speaker 4: That i've never heard.
Speaker 7: That.
Speaker 1: Uh i'm furiously googling right, now what are you mad?
About and it says that they manipulate and hold objects
often with their, hands using the thumb and fingers. Together
SO i don't see anything that excludes gorillas or chimps
leaving palm prints on. Anything BUT i, MEAN i think
their hands Are sasquatch hands are markedly different than gorilla,
hands chimp, hands and human hands in a number of
ways THAT i don't think anyone could explain better Than
cliff on this.
Speaker 3: Call, yeah, yeah and. Whatever my quick little google search
here says that they grat when they grasp objects ape.
Species they use their palms and fingers much like we,
do but largely in a power grip as opposed to
a precision, grip which is a fingertip sort of. Thing but,
ANYWAY i guess that's the real. QUESTION i guess we've
got to focus, on is that does what does their
hand anatomy tell us about sasquatches and they how they
use the, hands and does if this is, true which
apparently it is not, True but would that suggest a
more recent common. Ancestor i'm not even sure that it
would suggest a more common ands have more recent common.
ANCESTOR i, MEAN i really don't know if that would
be the indicator of such a. Thing BUT i can
speak to a little bit about how sasquatches have not
only been observed using their, hand but also how the
hand anatomy points to what they can do and what
they can't. Do more, importantly, well first of, all the
hand anatomy is markedly different than in a human like
the thumb is positioned in a slightly different. Way and in,
fact a couple of newer Handprints i've been getting suggests
to me SOME i guess positions or flexations that the
hand can be. In, see there's not a lot of
handprints on record to begin, with, honestly and the ones
that have been noted have largely been in the shape of,
hands you, know like because that's that's how you recognize.
It but a couple of Handprints i've gotten recently have
the thumb in a very odd, position a very very odd.
POSITION i can maybe send mat a video or a
picture of one or two of these handprints where the
fingers say this, first not the, thumb but the other
fingers are like maybe at the twelve to three o'clock,
POSITION i guess would be a good look, Description but
the thumb is more like at a seven a clock.
Position so it's very VERY i guess divergent or. Something
i'm not sure what the right an anatomical term would,
be but it's very, Wonky i'll say, that whereas a
lot of the times you just. Pictured, okay so if
your middle finger looking at your, palm you, know or
if your middle fingers at, twelve you, know then like
your pointer finger would be at maybe, eleven and your
ring finger would be at your at, one and your
little finger would be at, two and your thumb would
probably be over it at like maybe, ten you, know
nine or ten position like that sort of. Thing but with,
sasquatches if you kept all four of the fingers, there
the THUMB i think would be like at seven or,
eight which is a really wonky place for it to be.
Sometimes and that's based on at least two handprints THAT
i have personally casts in the last couple of. Months
and what that tells us is that they are grabbing
things that are probably pretty. Large but also since their
thumb doesn't bend in the same position in the same
direction rather as, humans that tells us that they don't
have a precision. Grip they may have some difficulty or,
not like they, struggle but it wouldn't that be natural
for them to connect the tip of the thumb to
the tip of say the index, finger which would be
a precision, grip because humans have a precision, group which
means that we are easily able to pick up small
things like bebi's or something off of a. Table they
would have a little bit more trouble with. That they
would probably use their hands in different, ways and ape
species very often use like say the first and second
digit and to pick up small things like, that you,
know between the pointer and the middle, finger like they
would squeeze it. Sideways, LATERALLY i guess to pull up
those other things or, humans we'd use our thumb and those, digits,
see but sasquatches they would have trouble with. That so
you know a lot of these people who claim that
they're braiding or horses hairs and. Stuff, eh MAYBE i
don't think. SO i don't think that's true. Personally but
even if they, did it wouldn't be very. Good they
wouldn't be very. Clean it'd be very very, ROUGH i.
Think and of, course on top of, that their fingers
are shorter in, proportion or at least a pure shorter
in proportion to the rest of their. Hands and that's
likely because the webbing the skin between the fingers goes
up higher on the flangies, themselves you, know probably closer
to the first knuckle, there OR i guess maybe the second. Knuckle,
anyway the one closer to the, palm whatever one that one.
Is and also their fingers are quite a bit wider than.
Humans because they have a generally larger, hand that suggests
a power, grip especially with the thumb position and closing
not like a human like they. Do power grips are
used for things like ripping apart, trees or ripping apart,
stumps or tearing the heads off of bunnies or legs
off of deer and that kind of. Thing that ways
for them to utilize their immense strength and not be
delicate about things like picking up little tiny rocks or
something like that with the tips of their fingers and their.
Thumbs so their hands are very very different than. OURS
i think their thumb can move in quite a wide
range of, positions quite quite a large you know the,
SCOPE i. Guess but, yeah very very. Different and they
do not use their hands in similar. Ways they use
them for climbing and ripping apart things and pushing aside you, know,
brambles and tearing trees down and ripping apart, animals and you,
know pulling you, know like the rib cage apart of
a kill or something like. That all of these things
require great. Strength and their hands are built to reflect.
That their hands are built in a, sturdy, stocky stubby
sort of way in order to best to accommodate their immense.
Strength so that's kind of the gist of. It stay
two for More bigfoot And beyond With cliff And bobo
will be right back after these. Messages but, yeah that
that thumb thing with that new that handprint is you,
know cut those two HANDPRINTS i got, recently very very
interesting and very. Suggestive it's kind of teasing me in
a way to think about their hands in a new
fashion THAT i hadn't really approached it, before WHICH i
think is fascinating and it's super. Cool and it's just
another example of we don't know. Everything we don't even
know close to half of this, stuff and the data
that's available is only a small. SECTION i, mean we
probably have two hundred and fifty or more three hundred footprint,
cast but we probably have maybe a dozen or twenty,
handprints so we know significantly, less proportionally less about their.
Hands but what we do know is very very. Intriguing
it's super interesting and. Cool right, On so here is
the next.
Speaker 1: Voicemail hi, guys this Is rick from The Evolution talk.
Speaker 8: PODCAST i live In New hampshire and i'd like to
know your thoughts about sasquatch activity in The White mountain.
REGION i seem to recall a story a few years
back about in early morning spotting at a, trailhead BUT
i really don't know of much. Else do you guys
have any data or information to share about the.
Speaker 3: Area thanks enjoyed the.
Speaker 4: Show.
Speaker 1: Guys there was a story THAT i told on the,
podcast one of my favorite eyewitness Stories i've ever. Heard
that was from a gentleman in a parked. Vehicle it's
a Jeep Grand cherokee at The Soyer river trailhead there
in The White. Mountains the thing approached his vehicle and
he saw it at pretty close. Ranges it was like
right at the, front kind of near the driver's side,
headlight and he was in the front seat looking at
it through the. Windshield so, YEAH i know there's a
lot of you guys have probably taking a lot of
reports from, there but that might be the one he was.
Referencing they were one of my favorite Reports i've ever.
Speaker 3: Heard, YEAH i don't pay too much attention because it's
so far from. ME i, mean we did do an
episode out, there WHICH i thought was. Interesting AND i
will also say that The White mountains in general seemed
to me like that whole area of The northeast strongly
resembles like The Pacific, northwest but maybe at three quarter,
scale like everything's smaller, there but it does look like
great habitat and fantastic for our critters. There so, YEAH
i was very very impressed with.
Speaker 4: It, YEAH i, mean they're definitely. There we spoke some great.
WITNESSES i, mean there's always reports coming out Of there's
constantly reports coming out of. There it's way viable, habitat
it's great. Habitat.
Speaker 1: Yeah the Reason i'd taken that report THAT i had
referenced IS i don't think there were many, people if,
any during the time THAT i was in THE bfro
that were active In New, hampshire and so maybe some
of those reports had been published by people from adjacent.
States BUT i was looking at places to potentially travel
to and that was one of the ONES i was interested.
In SO i was digging into the database and there
were a lot of like unpublished. Reports this would have
been twenty twelve or twenty, thirteen AND i found that
one in and spoke to that witness and was just
completely blown. AWAY i was driving when he called me.
BACK i was driving back from the field From georgia
To South. Carolina it was one of those times THAT
i so. WISH i was, like, MAN i should pull
over the car and like dig out my audio recorder
and throw fresh batteries in it because it was such
an amazing. Story BUT i had spoke to the guy several,
times but again like very close.
Speaker 3: Range he saw.
Speaker 1: It it just a few feet away and a really good
look at. It so that made me want to go
out there even more so maybe one of these.
Speaker 4: DAYS i, mean THE bfl has like three hundred and
fifty reports from there over.
Speaker 3: Total it's not to be pretty good. THEN i, mean
even if half of those we sightings or in the
other half were questions or, something still pretty.
Speaker 4: Good, yeah that's. Good.
Speaker 1: Yeah there's another little area, there a little smaller. RANGE
i guess it's probably still a subrange called The. Ossipe
it's Either ossipe OR Osipi i've never heard it, Said
i've just read. It but it's really. Interesting like there's
a land feature. THERE i think it's called like a volcanic.
Speaker 5: Ring.
Speaker 1: Dive it's not quite like a, caldera but it kind
of sort of. Is it's like the remnants of an old.
Volcano it looks like just like a big giant. Crater
but there were some reports THAT i took from That
Ossipee range too that were really. Interesting but if you
look that up on Like Google maps with the terrain,
feature you'll see. IT i think there's a few of
those volcanic green dikes around that part of The, northeast
but that one in particular In New hampshire is really good.
Speaker 4: Too so if.
Speaker 1: If the caller is interested in places near The White,
mountains i'd check that out.
Speaker 4: Too Crystal, PACK i think SHE'S i think she's a
member EVEN i think she listens to the podcast for.
Sure she's THE bufo investigator for up, there so she'd
be a good person to get a hold. Of she's
taken like she's covered way over half the reports for that,
stage so she'd be a great. Contact you already.
Speaker 3: Been john Willcrom squatchatoosets has been on the podcast several.
TIMES I, MEAN i Know massachusetts isn't quite the, same
but those states are so small up there That i'm
sure he has some information on that kind of.
Speaker 1: Thing, YEAH i think the person that's very active that
probably has a lot of information because he lives there
and has such a big platform that he probably gets
a lot of local. Reports to Be Alex. Petakov oh.
YEAH i don't know how easy he is to get
a hold of because he's always in the back country
and always on the road filming stuff for small town
monsters and sort of filming his field. Investigations But i'd
Say alex probably has a lot of good insight and
reports there as. Well, yeah that we talked about. It
just like a couple of months. Ago there was that
wonderful footprint cast out of that area as, well one
of the Best i've, seen, honestly it's just. Fantastic so
there's great stuff happening back, there BUT i guess not
a lot of people are publishing it or. SOMETHING i don't,
know OR i just am so focused on The Pacific
northwest it's hard for me to pay.
Speaker 3: Attention and the reports are pretty pretty well across all,
all like the whole state's got a pretty even distribution of.
Speaker 4: Reports it's not like if you look when you look him,
up it's not just like all piled up in like
one or two. Counties it's like spread out like all
across the, state.
Speaker 3: Which isn't helpful if you're looking for. Him or maybe
it is because they're. Everywhere But i'd rather have a
bunch of stuff from two areas at LEAST i know
where to.
Speaker 4: Look, yeah, YEAH i Tried Crystal Panic pa and E.
K she's On facebook and. Stuff she's a way hip
that she was that. Close she came to the town.
Speaker 3: Hall OH i can't remember.
Speaker 1: That, yeah we met her at the the twenty eighteen
squat A chusetts event as.
Speaker 3: Well, YEAH i. DON'T i don't know the kind of ram.
Me my memory is devoted, to you, know useless jingles
WHEN i was ten years old and. STUFF i can't
remember people's names or my password to my bank account
or anything like. That so, Right i've got too much
useless information to store versus things that might actually matter to.
Me so there's no hope for.
Speaker 1: Me so thanks for that. Question and here is your
next written. Submission that one's, you bobs Uh Connor.
Speaker 4: Watson what auto recording devices do you recommend for a?
Fee old? Work how much?
Speaker 3: Money, Actually i'm not even sure the money. THING i, guess,
YEAH i guess. It maybe it does matter a little.
Bit but even with something for, anybody, really no matter
how much money you, have does mean you want to
spend it or you're willing to throw it. AWAY i
think a great a great unit is like these little
task scam D r something or, others.
Speaker 4: The d D r SEVEN, xps that's WHAT i just.
Got their.
Speaker 3: Killer, yeah they're they're, small they last all night long
on two double a's and if you can use rechargeables in,
those you, know you're set, man and they record for
probably ten twelve hours or. More they're, handy they're they
the audio quality is. GOOD i think those are. Fantastic
and they're like one hundred, bucks so they're relatively. INEXPENSIVE
i know one hundred dollars is a lot of money
for some, people but for a.
Speaker 4: Little more than, that they're they're like they're like two,
hundreds two. Hundred not the ONES i was. Flying the
prices of it are. Up the ONE i got for
one seventy. Nine but then like you, know you gotta.
Speaker 3: Get, like, oh, oh you know WHAT i was, using
the TASKM dr FIVE. Xp those are the ONES i,
use And i'm looking at them right. Now for one
hundred nine bucks brand, new.
Speaker 4: Those sevens are way better than.
Speaker 3: It, OKAY i can't find anything wrong with THE o.
FIVES i guess you. Know that's that's the Position i'm.
IN i use THE o Fives in, FACT i kid you.
NOT i THINK i have three or four of, them
and they weren't just great two Double a's powers at
all night. LONG i used, like If i'm on a,
Trip i'll use, rechargeables And i've never had an issue with,
them and, HONESTLY i don't treat them nicely at. All
i've left them out in like light rain and things
like that. Before they've never failed. ME i would go
with the TASK MDR o FIVE. Xp that's WHAT i personally.
Use bobo likes the fancier, one BUT i Guess bobo's
flush with money and he can afford that sort of,
stuff SO i just. Care maybe that's what it. Is, Yeah,
well for someone like me who just doesn't, care the
five works absolutely. Fantastic the audio quality is, great they're less,
Expensive i'm less afraid about ruining, them and the battery
usage is very. Reasonable so that's WHAT i like to.
Speaker 1: USE i still have the Same zoom h two that
have had since like six or seven and it is
still rocking and. Rolling they still make that. LINE i
just saw an ad for like the newest of The
zoom eight series. Models but they're, handheld super high.
Speaker 4: Quality you.
Speaker 1: Know they TAKE sd cards and just DOUBLE a TRIPLE a.
BATTERIES i mean mine takes double As i'm assuming that's
still what they. Take so they're really easy to use
for days on end at the, field just swapping out
cards and. Batteries but they're super. Sturdy LIKE i, Said
i've been using this one for almost twenty years and
it's still rocking and.
Speaker 3: Rolling stay tuned for More bigfoot And beyond With cliff And.
Bogo will be right back after these. Messages so here
is the last. Voicemail hey, Boys nick from Upstate New.
Speaker 7: York first, time long, time haven't missed that episode since
the first. One drop love the, Pod. BOBO i got
a cameo for you for my mom For. Christmas you crushed,
it but you message asking where we lived and if
you give any, updates AND i didn't get back to
you in. Time we're short drive to The catskills At,
Arondecks whitehall And western Mass so just curiously you've heard
anything here. Lately, Cliff thanks for making out to The
New york Big Foot conference last. Year it was awesome
meeting you in, person and your presentation was a perfect
way to wrap up the. WEEKEND i was just Reading
krantz's book and he talks about synthetic hairs being staged
in The Blue mountains in the. Eighties just curious if
you had more information on. That seems like a tough
thing to stage where people would find him. Consistently And,
MATT i talked to you once on the phone WHEN
i joined THE nawac for a short. Time you told
me about an ENCOUNTER i believe In New. HAMPSHIRE i
believe it was like early dawn and they were sleeping
in their car and they saw. Something just curious if
you could tell that. Again that was. Awesome. Thanks, boys
have a good. One can't wait to. Listen where do we?
Speaker 1: Start would, say, You, bobo you have any sage his?
Forum based on where he's.
Speaker 4: At did we lose? Him, no he's. Muted oh, YEAH
i JUST i just gave a great answers to get
that prove.
Speaker 3: It well that's all you get. There, Sorry, nick, YEAH
i hope you Enjoyed bobo's. Answer.
Speaker 4: Yeah just. Uh when the last TIME i was back,
there this Guy ANTHONY i was. With we we just
he hunts and we just, looked and he found a
place that he's hunted and he, goes it's really small
and it's it's surrounded by like small. Towns it's it's
not super. Isolated and we went there and there was
like a square mile of woods and then there was,
like you, know like some connecting for, us like going
through the farms and, stuff but it was it was
it was mostly a solid. Farmland we went in there
and he didn't hunted there twice or, something and he,
goes we were. Looking he, said there's a lot of deer.
There so we went in there and sure enough that
we got. Killer WHEN i did my, call we got
a killer. Callback we heard the full Like siero sound
top fucking mumblely jumbalie stuff like singing voice kind of.
Talking but that was just a random, spot like no
reports there anything like. That we just we just went
with a deer where he'd seen a lot of deer
and they were. THERE i can't remember the name of the.
Place it was just a little tiny like gamers are.
Speaker 1: Plays what about? Eclip what about the dye now.
Speaker 3: Question, yeah dinel fibers are a natural or unnatural you,
know fiber some sort of they're like a plastic sort
of contaminant sort of. Thing my understanding is that they're
often used in mattress stuffings and that kind of, Stuff
like they're like a polyester and nylon sort of. Thing
and they are very very common In North american forests
actually because people throwing out their mattresses or trash and you,
know and and they can get into the, air the,
soil the. Water it's it's pretty bad actually in a
lot of. Ways it's one in, FACT i BET i
would imagine as these things break down over great lengths of,
time they contribute, great like huge amount of the microplastics.
Issue but they Are they're quite common in the, woods
quite common in the. Forest so WHEN i think it
Was nick, Right nick said they were staged in the,
Woods i'm not sure that's so sure that they were
planted in the, woods because that was A Paul freeman.
Find And Paul freeman actually had found quite a few
hair samples in the, woods SO i know he was
out there collecting. It and, ACTUALLY i KNOW i have
photographs of a number of hair samples That Paul freeman
actually did, collect and those were. Hair so this guy
was out there just collecting the things that he thought was.
Hair and the fact that he collected an artificial Fiber
dinelle fiber in this case and submitted it for testing
just meant that he thought it was. Hair he wasn't
trying to fake. ANYTHING i truly don't believe he was
trying to fake. Anything you got to remember now That
paul was fairly. Unsophisticated you, KNOW i Was Michael freeman,
again one of my best. Friends i've been learning About michael's,
Father paul for quite a. While, paul i, imagine probably
just didn't know any better in the same sort of
way that people often submit old man's beard and other
lichens and that kind of thing which are natural that
are not they're just not hair for hair. Analysis they
just don't know any better because it looks like. Hair
And paul was on fire For, bigfoot of, course so
if he found anything that resembled hair in an area
that he thought sasquatches, were or maybe an association with
trackways or something like, that he would absolutely collect. It
so and of course when that WHEN i got out that, like,
oh these aren't even, hair these are. Microfibers and of
course the you, know The bigfoot police started, yelling oh my,
god he's trying to fake. Things these aren't even, hairs
blah blah blah, blah AND i, said, no, no just, relax,
man it's. Cool he weighed a.
Speaker 1: Mistake it's just crazy to think that he would plant
those and then submit them for testing knowing that someone
would figure out that they were. Plastic you, know, like
if he was planting those, hairs it make more sense
to you, know show them to people in a ziploc
baggie or take pictures of them and show them to.
People but you, know you'd be a terrible hoax or
if you submitted your hoaxed hairs for like, analysis.
Speaker 3: Yeah by like scientists who could tell the. Difference, yes
like he. Was he was. NOT i, said he was rather,
unsophisticated but by no means would that imply that he's
dumb or unintelligent in any. Matter in any, Way he
absolutely was. Not he was apparently a very very clever
gentleman who was very intelligent and stuff that he wasn't educated.
Necessarily there's a big difference between those two. THINGS i
THINK i personally think he had trouble reading on top
of it as. Well in, FACT i know he had trouble,
reading but looking at his writing on the back of
footprint casts and some other material THAT i, have if
he was in my, CLASSROOM i would have referred him
for testing for. Dyslexia but that just means that he
probably had a lot of trouble in school and he
didn't read a lot because it was so difficult for.
Him and remember he's of the, age he's older that
he would have been much older than. Me and WHEN
i was, young they didn't really test so much for.
Dyslexia you, know it became a thing much later on
was it was recognized as a learning disability for a
lot of students. Anyway But, yeah this whole thing Where
paul has been accused of hoaxing hair, SAMPLES i think
is just. Nonsense it's just nonsense in the same sort
of way that he's been accused of hoaxing footprints and.
Whatnot and it's, like, well that just shows me a
number one is people are taking the word of other
people as gospel instead of investigating it for. Themselves and number,
two they're just unfamiliar with the actual evidence that The
freeman and The Blue mountain evidence consists. Of you, Know
that's what it shows to, me Because i'm one of
the lucky few that Actually i'm pretty familiar with the
depth and breadth of The Blue mountain. Evidence and it
seems awfully weird to me, that you, know hair, samples
some of which looked very very, good were, submitted and
fake hair samples were, submitted And paul did both thinking
that They're. Sasquatcher it's just kind of. DUMB i think
this is a dumb idea that's out there in The bigfoot.
World but you know how The bigfoot world is just
so gossipy and everything like. That people love a good
salacious story to spread around and whatever, else and too
much of it has been spread about The Blue mountain
evidence in my, opinion like if people is talking or
people are talking smack about The Blue mountain, evidence most
likely they are unfamiliar with The Blue mountain.
Speaker 1: Evidence and To nick's last, question it's. Funny you, know
when these come, IN i just save them and bank.
Them SO i hadn't realized until we were, recording especially
since it's been a couple of, weeks that there were
two questions about that New hampshire. Siding so to your last, Question,
nick to make a very long story, short the individual
was coming out of the forest there but got back
to his, vehicle which was. Parked it was the only
vehicle at The Sawyer river trail head, there kind of
Near heart's location if you look that up in The White,
mountains and it decided rather than driving all the way
BACK i think he lived in The Greater boston, area
didn't want to drive all the way back at, night
so he just got in the driver's seat of his
jeep chair key and cracked the windows a bit so
there wouldn't be, condensation and leaned the seat back a
bit and went to. Sleep and he woke up as
the sun was. Rising the sun had not crusted the horizon,
yet so it wasn't bright and gold. Yet it was
more like that bluish sort of. Twilight you could see
this thing across the little parking, area which is basically
like a gravel, turnaround and it made a beeline for the.
Vehicle after he had watched it for you, know moments
seconds or something like, that and he had the impression
that it was coming around the driver's side like it
was going to reach for his, door and so he
had his keys in the ignition and he was going
to reach up and flip over the keys to turn
on the, accessories to turn on the, headlights to stop,
it to scare. It and he said on his key
ring was a multi, tool like a Little swiss army,
knife and his hand bumped, that and that bumped against
the steering, column and the thing froze like a statue
right at his driver's side. Headlight so you just be
away from him as he's sitting. There and then he
said it sort of relaxed and stood up to its
full height because it was crouched over and bit down
as it, approached and it just stood there looking at, him,
basically though he, said maybe in retrospect it couldn't see
him in. There maybe it was just seeing like the
reflection of the sky on the, windshield because it was
just kind of looking in that general, direction looking through the.
Windshield but he was, inside frozen, stiff staring at. It
and he said he could see a lot of detail
about its build and, musculature and he realized in those
seconds that he's looking at it that it was wet
and the hair was clinging to its. Skin it must,
have he, thought it must have swam across The Soyer
river to get to that. Spot so they're having this
sort of stare, off and at some point it looked
back towards the tree. LINE i think he, said there
was a sound across the, river and it looked in that,
direction and he said when it. Did what he described
to me was that he had a strong familiarity with
human anatomy because in, college although he was not an
anatomist or a biology, student he did take an art
class that included doing. Nudes and he, said it's part
of the study for doing, nudes he had to memorize
all these elements of the human, body and all the
bones and the interactions of these. Muscles and so he,
said the way that it's, traps you, know the muscles
that sort of connected its head to its, shoulders those
big massive traps that people, describe and the soft tissues
like tendons and, ligaments the way that they moved when
it looked in that direction and looked back towards, him
he said it was so unhumanlike and, freakish like out
of this world that it sent him into a. Panic
he said that was the scariest moment of the whole,
thing when he, thought, like what is? This what AM
i looking? At and it briefly looked back in his,
direction and then he said it turned on its, feet
and his, words he, SAID i could hear the gravel
like pulverizing under its feet as it, pivoted and then
it walked away very. Casually and he said when it
approached the vehicle in that, crouch it was almost dead.
Quiet he, SAID i could, hear you, know the birds
start nature because someone was coming. UP i could hear
the water of the. River he, SAID i couldn't hear this.
Thing but when it, left he, SAID i heard the
gravel pulverize under his. Feet and when it walked, away he,
said his words were something, like, dude it sounded like
if you took gravestones and dropped them on the, ground like,
big multi hundred pound, gravestones.
Speaker 3: Just, boom boom.
Speaker 1: Boom and he SAID i could feel the reverberations of
its footfalls through the floorboard of the. Jeep it was
that big and heavy and just went back towards the
river and was, gone and he cranked the, vehicle and
he said he came tearing out of there at like
fifty five sixty miles an, hour still in four wheel
drive on these forest service, roads and was in a
total total panic can freak. Out and IF i remember,
correctly he said it was like two or three weeks
before he realized, like, oh that's the same kind of
animal that other people see in other parts of the
country that they called bigfoot or. Sasquatch but he, said
at first he was, LIKE i don't know what that.
Was it was like a thing from another. World it
was just so novel and strange and. Frightening but in a,
nutshell that's that.
Speaker 3: Story stay tuned for More bigfoot And beyond With cliff And.
Bobo we'll be right back after these, messages.
Speaker 1: And so we'll do one more written submission here before
we roll over To. Pigeons this will be a fun.
Speaker 3: One, Okay and this one comes From Jack. Smith if
there was a mount rushmore being developed for Great bigfoot, researchers,
who in your, opinion should be the four researchers, Enshrined.
Speaker 4: I'll go Green, Sanderson belgrum and let's See Belgium sanderson
and there's a lot Of now there's a lot of
names flood into my.
Speaker 1: Mind i'm Going, Green, Krantz, Meldrum, Binder, Nagel.
Speaker 3: That's WHO i. HAD i had exactly that same.
Speaker 1: List, YEAH i Love, sanderson BUT i THINK i Think
krantz should probably be on the rush more and more Than.
Sanderson but, MAN i love That sanderson, book BUT i
Think krantz made more, contributions Although sanderson is. Foundational but,
Yeah Green, Krantz ben And Nigel, meldrim you.
Speaker 4: Know that's F i was just looking up that stuff about.
UH i was looking up The Minnesota iceman at sashan
like and when we were talking about the, hands BECAUSE
i was going to bringing that up before was the
thumbs he Was the notes you made on the thumbs
on The Minnesota iceman didn't really masch like what we
would think of for. Sasquash did you have you looked
more in detail ABOUT i have. Not, NO i need to.
Speaker 1: REREAD i have That poivelman's book that was recently TRANS
i say recently in the last like ten or fifteen,
years was translated Into english That Lauren. Coleman's maybe it
was his publishing company or he had some hand in
having that printed for An english speaking. AUDIENCE i think
it's called like The Last neanderthal or something like. That,
yeah BUT i read it and it was pretty. Interesting
read it right when it came, Out SO i have
not re read that in. YEARS i should revisit.
Speaker 3: That what do they say about the? Hand but would
you remember specifically or.
Speaker 4: Oh it's the thumb like the thumb was it was
bigger in relation to the other, fingers like compared to the.
Humans mm and it wasn't so like off sods like
what we see with The. Sasquatch And i'm just looking
On Google earth where that were that those good spots
were up In New? York oh, yeah the way Five ponds.
Speaker 3: Wilderness well that was a couple questions ago.
Speaker 4: Though, YEAH i just looked it up As, Yeah Cranberry
lake like five pounds, wilderness not through Their Pigeon lake.
Wilderness that's that's a.
Speaker 3: Guarantee, yeah speaking of why don't we go head over
to the members section and we can take care of those.
QUESTIONS i know they've been stacking up.
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