Speaker 1: My Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this windy Tuesday.
Speaker 1: After him in the Tristate Reds Baseball kicks off again
Speaker 1: about five forty to night. First bitch, about six forty
Speaker 1: Luis Castillo on the mountain for Seattle and Ladolo goes
Speaker 1: for the Red Legs. They won five of the last six.
Speaker 1: One might add that the first eight games of this
Speaker 1: year the Reds were two and six, and the last
Speaker 1: eight games the Reds are six and two. On the
Speaker 1: right track eight and eight, about ten percent of the
Speaker 1: season is done and the Reds are about a game
Speaker 1: and a half out of first place. With the Cubs
Speaker 1: in first place. We'll see what happens, and the Reds
Speaker 1: do not play another team now at this point is
Speaker 1: a winning record until May twentieth. They got five weeks
Speaker 1: of playing softballs. But we'll see what happens down the road.
Speaker 1: But secondly, yesterday in Common Police Court, and for some reason,
Speaker 1: the smile of the life of Benjamin Addison, who I
Speaker 1: never knew, has stuck in my mind for a while.
Speaker 1: I think every parent's worse nightmare when you send a
Speaker 1: kid to UC. I guess to Xavier Nku Miami, he said,
Speaker 1: they're on their own, but you want the best for him.
Speaker 1: You want a kid to have roots with the family
Speaker 1: and wings to fly. And Benjamin Addison, who was twenty
Speaker 1: one years old when he was murdered and near the
Speaker 1: UC campus Mount Auburn, was doing everything right. He worked,
Speaker 1: works his way through school, had good grades, he was
Speaker 1: a mentor, the freshman that came in. The kid did
Speaker 1: everything right. And one evening he called his mom and
Speaker 1: mom said, Ony, don't you come home, which was I
Speaker 1: think in Anderson Township might have been wrong about that,
Speaker 1: but he said, no, Mom, I'm gonna stay downtown and
Speaker 1: have some fun and idea. I guess the suspicion is he,
Speaker 1: you know, wanted to be like a college kid. And
Speaker 1: about one or two o'clock in the morning, he looks
Speaker 1: out the window of a friend's apartment and sees the
Speaker 1: lights of his Hyundai or on and he's thinking, man,
Speaker 1: did I leave the door open or something? So he
Speaker 1: goes out there. Suddenly he's confronted by the Justin At Dugan,
Speaker 1: only seventeen years old at the time. According to media accounts,
Speaker 1: he was trying to steal the car, and some sort
Speaker 1: of confrontation occurred between Benjamin Addison, the rightful uc student,
Speaker 1: who was certainly unarmed and compared to the behavior, of
Speaker 1: course of one Justin Dugan, who was there to commit
Speaker 1: an armed robbery of one type or another. He was
Speaker 1: indicted for murder some other things, and as a consequence,
Speaker 1: the case was before Judge Alison Hathaway, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: spent years here in the newsroom. James Bogan, you may
Speaker 1: recall many many years ago we had Rachel Ali and
Speaker 1: we had a newsroom and Alison Hathaway was an employee
Speaker 1: of seven hundred WLW in the newsroom with bridget Rachel
Speaker 1: and Ali, and I spent a lot of time with Ali,
Speaker 1: and I sent a recommendation to get her into law school.
Speaker 1: That's kind of required a little bit. And now after
Speaker 1: I don't know, ten or fifteen years later, guess what,
Speaker 1: she's a Common Police Court Judge al and Alison Hathaway
Speaker 1: sentenced the defendant, James Justin Dugan, to many say, only
Speaker 1: twenty one years in jail for this felony murder. And
Speaker 1: first of all, James Bogan, welcome again to the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And before we talk about the president, am
Speaker 1: I right to assume that a felony murder maybe ten
Speaker 1: or twenty years ago couldn't make one applicable for the
Speaker 1: death penalty and or life imprisonment without possibility of parole.
Speaker 2: Was that the way it was?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the way it was.
Speaker 4: And of course in between the Supreme Court decided that
Speaker 4: seventeen or anyone under eighteen cannot get the death penalty,
Speaker 4: and they subsequently expanded that they can't get life without parole.
Speaker 1: So really, justin Dugan, because of his age, his tender
Speaker 1: age of seventeen, could not get the death penalty and
Speaker 1: could not get possibility life without possibility.
Speaker 2: So here's the other issue.
Speaker 1: I added up the years he could have faced voluntary manslaughter,
Speaker 1: felonious assault and using a gun to commit an offense.
Speaker 1: You could have got twenty six point five years instead
Speaker 1: of twenty one years.
Speaker 2: Why do you suspect the lower range was taken?
Speaker 3: Juh?
Speaker 4: I mean I suspect Bill that this was an agreed
Speaker 4: plea deal. You see these in murder cases more often,
Speaker 4: much more often than open please which, by the way,
Speaker 4: when you go and do an a greed plea deal,
Speaker 4: the judge does not have to go along with it.
Speaker 4: But this sentence here. To be very honest, I don't
Speaker 4: that seems to be around the going rate that we
Speaker 4: see in these kinds of cases on plea deals.
Speaker 1: And Connie Pillach was on with Scott Sloan this morning
Speaker 1: and she kind of implied that it was kind of
Speaker 1: a negotiated sentence. The family is not happy, Benjamin Addison's
Speaker 1: mom and dad, especially Joseph Addison the father, and the
Speaker 1: mother went through the fact that her son should have
Speaker 1: been great situating next next month from UC. She'll never
Speaker 1: have grandchildren to hold. It was a terrible case. The
Speaker 1: family did not agree with the sentence. So, in a
Speaker 1: practical way, when you're in negotiations with a criminal defense
Speaker 1: attorney and with prosecutor's office, if the family does not agree, what.
Speaker 2: Weight does that have in the sentencing.
Speaker 4: It just depends on the overall evidence of the case
Speaker 4: and other circumstances. Every case is different, and obviously in
Speaker 4: this case, I'm not privy to any particulars that would
Speaker 4: have moved the needle either way.
Speaker 1: And as a consequence, and Justin Dugan's going to be
Speaker 1: out of prison, I guess when he's about thirty eight
Speaker 1: or thirty nine years old, and I don't know what
Speaker 1: kind of person's going to come out of jail at
Speaker 1: that point, but it looks to me like his age
Speaker 1: worked in his favor, even though his behavior was as
Speaker 1: an adult to be seventeen years old. The law says,
Speaker 1: I think you told me earlier the cases Miller versus Alabama,
Speaker 1: where a juvenile cannot get life without possibility of parole,
Speaker 1: and of course they can't get the death penalty either,
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: But he could have got he could have got murder,
Speaker 1: in which case he would have to serve fifteen years
Speaker 1: before eligibility. And I's gonna be eligible for five or
Speaker 1: six years. So you're down in the bows of the
Speaker 1: courthouse every day. You're saying that our former employee, Judge
Speaker 1: Allison Hathaway, did not do anything out of the unusual.
Speaker 4: No, and in this case here, the only thing that
Speaker 4: would be unusual be to not go along within the
Speaker 4: crete sentence. I mean, I actually had that bus stop
Speaker 4: rapist in Forced Park earlier this year, and she hit
Speaker 4: him pretty hard. So when I had things about trauma
Speaker 4: and mental health and substance abuse to argue for, you know, mitigation,
Speaker 4: which is the kind of stuff any decent attorney would
Speaker 4: look up looking too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I haven't had any experience where she does anything unusual
Speaker 4: with any of my cases.
Speaker 1: You're saying, our former news employee Ali is doing a
Speaker 1: pretty good job, is what you're saying, James.
Speaker 3: Bogan, Yes, I am.
Speaker 4: And you know I actually knew her when she was
Speaker 4: a news employee. One time she covered a case that
Speaker 4: I was working with. Legend Isaiah Gaines, Gains.
Speaker 2: And Gaines Attorneys at law. If you need me, call me.
Speaker 4: And he still had your picture on the wall.
Speaker 2: Ships all right.
Speaker 1: So for those who say, maybe some here say, look,
Speaker 1: you don't kill a twenty one year old UC student
Speaker 1: during a felony murder armed robbery and get off for
Speaker 1: twenty one years, James Bogan would say he didn't get off.
Speaker 1: Justice Dugan. I would say, this wasn't his first rodeo.
Speaker 1: But we don't know the record of a juvenile either.
Speaker 1: I would assume this wasn't his first arm robbery, and
Speaker 1: he got kind of a sentence that was at least
Speaker 1: in the range of what normally happens in Hamley County.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just haven't seen anything unusual ever
Speaker 4: since Pillas took over for these new judges to you know,
Speaker 4: I haven't seen anything that really raises any red flags.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the next case. Brian Hamrick had this.
Speaker 1: A Channel five security video reveals new information about a
Speaker 1: shootout that left one man dead and a teenager under arrest.
Speaker 1: The video shows twenty five year old at Kyle Merrick
Speaker 1: outside a carry out on Short Vine. You know the
Speaker 1: UC campus. I'm sure you've been there many times. And
Speaker 1: the video, it looks like Kyle is simply looking at
Speaker 1: his phone and suddenly investigators a person who pulled a
Speaker 1: gun on him was a fifteen year old. It looked
Speaker 1: like an arm robbery in progress. And the video shows
Speaker 1: the alleged attacker, the fifteen year old whose name I
Speaker 1: guess we can't use, with a gun in his hand,
Speaker 1: lunging at Mirrick, the victim I assume to get something
Speaker 1: of value from him, and then Mirrick, the future dead guy,
Speaker 1: pushes the team away and begins to run. The team
Speaker 1: raises the gun and fires at Merrick, and then Merrick,
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to the attacker, had a gun on his own.
Speaker 1: Kind of explained to the American people what happened to
Speaker 1: that on short vine in Coreyville.
Speaker 4: Well, basically, just like he described, that fifteen year old
Speaker 4: goes up to Merrick just sticks a gun in him.
Speaker 4: Merrick pushes him when he starts running a bit, the
Speaker 4: team raises a gun and fires. Mirk turns around and
Speaker 4: fires some shots himself. The team falls, Mrick runs off,
Speaker 4: and then shortly after that Merk's dead, and.
Speaker 1: The video shows when Merrick was shot the victim he
Speaker 1: didn't you know, the first time you're shot. For a
Speaker 1: few seconds, you don't know your shot. He was dead
Speaker 1: man walking. And at this point, the fifteen year old
Speaker 1: who committed this attempt at armed robbery will probably be
Speaker 1: treated just like Justin Dugan for killing Benjamin Addison. Because
Speaker 1: he's under eighteen. He can't get the death penalty, he
Speaker 1: can't serve life without possibility of parole. He's probably looking
Speaker 1: at twenty to twenty five years. Can you discuss how
Speaker 1: unusual is today they have these teenagers running around with
Speaker 1: guns committing these offenses in and around Coreyville. You see,
Speaker 1: I would think it's one of the more violent campuses
Speaker 1: in the country. And it looks like lots of events
Speaker 1: are taking place, and how you're a UC Grant.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the crime rates. I've heard of mixed
Speaker 4: things about it. However, it's pretty clear that you don't
Speaker 4: want to be on Short Vine at night. And just
Speaker 4: the sheer number of teen shooting teams doing the shootings
Speaker 4: that we've seen at the court, it's just blown up.
Speaker 4: And the big thing that just these these teams that
Speaker 4: are out at times where they shouldn't be, I mean,
Speaker 4: makes me wonder where the hell of the parents.
Speaker 1: That's a good a fifteen year old, maybe a freshman
Speaker 1: with a gun sticking up people on Short Vine. And
Speaker 1: you know, I tell those around me, if this happens
Speaker 1: to you, put your hands up and say what do
Speaker 1: you want? Give this arm Robert whatever they want. And
Speaker 1: so the behavior of the future dead guy, the victim,
Speaker 1: what he did, in a sense precipitated the shooting, which
Speaker 1: may not have occurred. But if you're a victim in
Speaker 1: that circumstance, you don't know what the hell you're going
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: What advice would you give?
Speaker 1: James Bogan of those who find themselves in that situation,
Speaker 1: like Benjamin Addison didn't know he was about to be
Speaker 1: murdered by Justin Dugan, and of course, Merrick didn't know
Speaker 1: he was about to be murdered.
Speaker 2: What do you do in that situation? If you find.
Speaker 4: Yourself Mirrick, what he should have done was exactly what
Speaker 4: you said, put your hands up and say take what
Speaker 4: you want. Your property is not worth your life. And
Speaker 4: for Addison, he should have, in hindsight, I hate to
Speaker 4: blame him in any way or sound like it, he
Speaker 4: should have stayed inside, maybe.
Speaker 2: Yelled at the hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: You know, and you know, call the police because there
Speaker 4: plenty of times where it's just yelling out the window
Speaker 4: like that can scare them off because the one thing
Speaker 4: thieves hate is being detected. But you know, that's just
Speaker 4: I'm just guessing here. But going outside, obviously, in hindsighting
Speaker 4: going outside and confronting was a mistake. And here's the thing.
Speaker 4: When you're in those firearms courses and so on, when
Speaker 4: you're taught home self defense, if an intruder breaks into
Speaker 4: your home, they actually teach do not confront the intruder.
Speaker 4: You retreat to a room with your fire a safe
Speaker 4: room with your firearm, and yell out that you have
Speaker 4: a gun and you've called the police. Something like that,
Speaker 4: because if you confront one intruder, How do you know
Speaker 4: there's not another one coming up behind you and going
Speaker 4: to do something to you?
Speaker 1: So be passive, think about it ahead of time, know
Speaker 1: what you're going to do in that circumstance before it
Speaker 1: takes place, and if it occurs, be passed as if
Speaker 1: slowly put your hands up and.
Speaker 2: Say what do you want?
Speaker 3: That's correct?
Speaker 1: Now before we get into this case. It is terrible
Speaker 1: stabbing case which I sent this to you. Also about
Speaker 1: the teen suspect free on bond after stabbing a Texas
Speaker 1: track Star Austin Metcalf to death. I tell those who
Speaker 1: park their vehicles that leave nothing of value in the
Speaker 1: car and do not lock the doors, because the first
Speaker 1: thing these thieves are going to do is break a window,
Speaker 1: which costs you a thousand bucks.
Speaker 2: It's a pain in the neck.
Speaker 1: And of course cops say, look, lock up, have nothing
Speaker 1: of value, but lock the doors to your car. What
Speaker 1: does James Bogan say? Do you say lock the door
Speaker 1: leave nothing in or do you say leave the door
Speaker 1: unlocked and leave nothing in?
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 4: I say, lock the door, don't leave anything in Because
Speaker 4: the biggest thing that I've seen with cases is when
Speaker 4: people break in the cars. They look in the window,
Speaker 4: see something valuable, and hey, I want that. If I've
Speaker 4: never had my car broke into knock On Wood and
Speaker 4: I you know, parking in Clifton and everything when I
Speaker 4: was at UC, it's a matter of don't leave valuable
Speaker 4: stuff out in your car. That is the number one
Speaker 4: thing that's going to get your car broken into.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about another juvenile case. This is out of Texas,
Speaker 1: and you know, this is another awful case in which
Speaker 1: I guess there was a high school track meet and
Speaker 1: the two schools were going at each other on the
Speaker 1: track and a teen suspect got free on bond yesterday
Speaker 1: after allegedly stabbing Texas track star Austin Metcalf to death.
Speaker 1: I guess Metcalf said to this teenager, whose name is
Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony, seventeen years old, that you're standing in the
Speaker 1: wrong spot or whatever. And they had words back and
Speaker 1: forth to each other, and at one point Carmelo Anthony,
Speaker 1: seventeen years old is now facing first degree murder chargers
Speaker 1: in Metcalf's death, simply reached into his bag, pulled out
Speaker 1: a knife, and plunged it into the chest of this kid,
Speaker 1: a parent's worst nightmare. As a criminal defense attorney, what
Speaker 1: comes to mind? Because he's claiming self defense, he is
Speaker 1: saying saying a little push on his chest from the
Speaker 1: future victim was sufficient to stab him in the chest,
Speaker 1: causing him to bleed out. What do you say is
Speaker 1: how to valid self defense claim?
Speaker 4: Any first year law student will tell you it's not,
Speaker 4: even if the teen who stabbed Austin Metcalf had attacked Anthony.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. Deadly force is only allowed if the
Speaker 4: attacker uses deadly force, or if there's an objection objectively
Speaker 4: reasonable fear of death or serious bodily harm. If someone
Speaker 4: attacks you with non deadly force, you can't escalate the
Speaker 4: level of force. You can only do enough to repel
Speaker 4: the attack. And this even applies with standard ground law
Speaker 4: standard ground. Contrary to what the left likes to say,
Speaker 4: it only takes away the duty to retreat when you
Speaker 4: meet all the other prongs of self defense. It doesn't
Speaker 4: just turn the streets into the wild West. And when
Speaker 4: Anthony reached into his bag and took out the knife,
Speaker 4: that shows pre meditation under the legal definition, because no
Speaker 4: particular amount of planning or particular amount of thought is required,
Speaker 4: he escalated the force involved. Again, this is something any
Speaker 4: first year law student can tell you, and this is
Speaker 4: something you need to know for the bar examine. It's
Speaker 4: absolutely sickening that the left has turned it into a
Speaker 4: race issue and turned this kid into a hero.
Speaker 1: You know, the defendant is black, the dead teenager is white.
Speaker 1: The Anthony family has raised four hundred and twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars on line to defend the black kid against
Speaker 1: being pushed by the so called white kid and the
Speaker 1: lawyer standing in your stead. James Bogan said, quote, every
Speaker 1: Texan has the right to defend themselves when they reasonably
Speaker 1: fear for their life. Self defense is a protection that
Speaker 1: applies to each and every one of us. There are
Speaker 1: two sides to every story. This is a tragedy all
Speaker 1: the way around. Do not rush for judgment. If one
Speaker 1: pushes you, or maybe even slaps you, that does not
Speaker 1: give you the right to stab them and use deadly
Speaker 1: forced The force you use must be commensurate with the
Speaker 1: force used against you. So if some person slaps you
Speaker 1: and pushes you, I don't know about punching. That's in
Speaker 1: a different category. You could be hitting the head and
Speaker 1: fall down and kill yourself. But if someone pushes you
Speaker 1: with your hand, you don't have the right to take
Speaker 1: a dagger and stab them in the chest. But this
Speaker 1: has become a race issue, and so suddenly, because the
Speaker 1: defendant is a is a black teenager, they're going to
Speaker 1: raise more than a million dollars for his defense. And
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Luigi Mangioni killing the killing the
Speaker 1: insurance executive. He's raised two million dollars and it's pretty sick. Well,
Speaker 1: James Bogan, we got to go. I want to get
Speaker 1: your advice on all these matters. But the number one,
Speaker 1: if you're going to be held up or someone burglarizes
Speaker 1: your home, retreat and yell that you have a gun,
Speaker 1: even if you don't, and the police are on their way,
Speaker 1: and do and be passive as can be. But James Bogan,
Speaker 1: once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, James, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Bill.
Speaker 2: Always a privilege, bless you.
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Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Billy Cunningham, The great American of course today
Speaker 1: is taxed to April to fifteenth. You must give to
Speaker 1: Caesar the things that are Caesar's and the God the
Speaker 1: things that are God. You have until about four thirty today,
Speaker 1: five o'clock Eastern time today to have your envelope postmarked.
Speaker 1: And many people wait to the NFA owe money like
Speaker 1: yours surely, or on the other hand, if you get money,
Speaker 1: you might file a bit early. But the tax policy
Speaker 1: is something in great debate in Washington. In fact, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump promises a big, beautiful bill before Memorial Day which
Speaker 1: will be about eighty thousand pages long, describing this, describing
Speaker 1: that want to get perspective where we are and where
Speaker 1: we hope to be.
Speaker 2: Joining you and I now.
Speaker 1: Scott Hodge is a tax and physical policy fellow at
Speaker 1: the Arnold Ventures form a president of the Tax Foundation
Speaker 1: of America. Scott Hodge, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Scott,
Speaker 1: first of all, can you tell the American people about
Speaker 1: the original tax policy in this country was to in
Speaker 1: a sense, and I think it was like nineteen sixteen
Speaker 1: to tax a little bit of income, and that's it.
Speaker 1: It's grown in a gargantuan way. And can you tell
Speaker 1: the American people. Do one percent of the American people
Speaker 1: pay about I don't know forty I think forty percent
Speaker 1: of the taxes. The top five percent pay seventy five percent.
Speaker 1: And if you're real rich and you have capital gains
Speaker 1: income you play, you kind of already pay a different
Speaker 1: rate than the earned income. But is it our Do
Speaker 1: we already have a tax policy in which those who
Speaker 1: have high incomes already pay disproportion amount of the federal bills?
Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot of people are a bill are very
Speaker 3: surprised to hear how progressive our tax system is, which
Speaker 3: means how tilted it is toward the rich. And I
Speaker 3: don't mean that in the sense that the rich get
Speaker 3: all the tax bricks. It's that they pay the lion's
Speaker 3: share of the tax burden. In fact, at the other
Speaker 3: end of the scale, we have about fifty four million
Speaker 3: Americans every year pay zero income taxes because of the
Speaker 3: generosity of many things like the child tax credit and
Speaker 3: other deductions which wipe their tax bill away. Many of
Speaker 3: those people actually get a check back in what's called
Speaker 3: a refundable tax credit, meaning you get a check back
Speaker 3: even if you don't owe any taxes. And meanwhile, as
Speaker 3: you mentioned, the top one percent of taxpayers pays about
Speaker 3: forty percent of all the income taxes. And so we
Speaker 3: have a tax system that is very progressive, very tilted
Speaker 3: toward the rich. And that's why one of the reasons
Speaker 3: why it's so difficult to tax tax reform is because
Speaker 3: you have this political dialogue about who pays what and
Speaker 3: how much. And that's what this year is going to
Speaker 3: be a very challenging year to try to extend the
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, because it's going
Speaker 3: to be a very very political debate.
Speaker 1: So the top one percent, Am I correct to say?
Speaker 1: The top one percent make about four hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year, they pay about forty percent the top How
Speaker 1: about the bottom fifty percent, those who make seventy thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year or less, The bottom fifty percent pay less,
Speaker 1: three percent pay three So let me get that, So
Speaker 1: fifty percent pay yeah three percent?
Speaker 5: Right right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hit. And again it's because over the last
Speaker 3: three decades or so, Congress has passed a lot of
Speaker 3: different programs like the child tax Credit, the ear an
Speaker 3: income tax Credit, and other benefits aimed at the middle
Speaker 3: class or lower income people, and as a result, those
Speaker 3: people have their income tax liability basically wipe clean. And
Speaker 3: most people aren't aware of that. And it's one of
Speaker 3: these sort of hidden secrets of the tax bill because
Speaker 3: we hear so much political rhetoric that, oh, the risk
Speaker 3: get all these tax breaks.
Speaker 2: Well they do.
Speaker 3: They still pay a lot at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: So when some republic going a Conservatives says, you know what,
Speaker 1: we need tax reform, more than half the American people say, no,
Speaker 1: we don't. I'm good the way it is because I'm
Speaker 1: not paying federal tax. In fact, I'm getting money back.
Speaker 1: And so it's a problem. And I've discussed this for
Speaker 1: many years and many different platforms, and that never seeps through.
Speaker 1: So when when Republicans or others say we're going to
Speaker 1: get a tax cut, most people don't care about that
Speaker 1: because they don't pay taxes anyway. And for those who
Speaker 1: do pay taxes, you have to hire accountants. I have
Speaker 1: two or three that work. I'm largely a W two employee.
Speaker 1: My return is not too exotic anymore. And so I
Speaker 1: look at that and say, I give them all the
Speaker 1: stuff and say, okay, what do I pay? And then
Speaker 1: I and then I pay, and then I move on.
Speaker 1: And so the odds of this thing passing I heard
Speaker 1: this morning in one of the talk shows. It might
Speaker 1: have been with Joe Scarborough, who used to be normal,
Speaker 1: used to be a Republican now who's gone left wing,
Speaker 1: with Zika Brazenski, who said, essentially, this thing, this dog's
Speaker 1: not gonna hunt because most people do not want reforming
Speaker 1: the tax code. There's too many advisors, too many lobbyists
Speaker 1: on K Street making too much money. And so the
Speaker 1: odds of this passing, which would approve a five trillion
Speaker 1: dollar additional national debt. So I watched last night when
Speaker 1: Maria Bartiromo, who had on Lankford, Republican conservative from Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: that the Republicans are saying, well, we're gonna have this big,
Speaker 1: beautiful bill, but we're gonna extend, We're gonna go borrow
Speaker 1: five trillion dollars more money. Is that conservative? Is that
Speaker 1: a Republican?
Speaker 3: No, it's irresponsible. It's true, bill we do need to
Speaker 3: extend the twenty seventeen tax cuts to keep some normalcy
Speaker 3: in the tax law, to keep some predictability in it,
Speaker 3: and we don't want an automatic four trillion dollar tax
Speaker 3: pyke on the American public and the economy. At the
Speaker 3: same time, we need to do that in a responsible way,
Speaker 3: and that is going to require cutting spending or closing
Speaker 3: loopholes somewhere else in the tax code so that extending
Speaker 3: the good tax cuts doesn't blow up the deficit. And
Speaker 3: that's the dilemma that Congress is facing right now.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, we have the Senate and says, oh,
Speaker 3: we don't need to pay for that. We can we
Speaker 3: can run up the debt by another five trillion dollars.
Speaker 3: Many people in the House representatives are saying, hey, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, we should at least cut some spending. And
Speaker 3: while they're recommending about two trillion dollars with his spending
Speaker 3: cuts over the next ten years, that's not nearly enough
Speaker 3: to cover the entire cost of the tax cuts. So
Speaker 3: that's the dilemma that we're in right now with this
Speaker 3: so called big beautiful.
Speaker 1: Bill, and that those tax cuts at this point, according
Speaker 1: to Elon Musk, are about one hundred and fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 1: And when I hear Republicans say it must be paid for,
Speaker 1: there's going to have to be five trillion dollars. I said,
Speaker 1: five trillion dollars of growth or cuts to equal the
Speaker 1: cost of the tax bill, letting people keep more of
Speaker 1: their own money.
Speaker 2: Is that even conceivable?
Speaker 1: They have five trillion dollars and growth from new taxes
Speaker 1: or DOZE five trillion dollars. The Republicans have agreed to it,
Speaker 1: and that almost impossible.
Speaker 3: It is impossible. In fact, you know, even the most
Speaker 3: pro growth tax bill in the world is not going
Speaker 3: to create that much economic growth and will not pay
Speaker 3: for itself. So there it is simply impossible, and that's
Speaker 3: that's kind of a fantasy. At the other hand, even
Speaker 3: though DOZE may be doing some good and trimming back
Speaker 3: some of the scale of some of these agencies and programs,
Speaker 3: there's a limit to how much you can really do
Speaker 3: without the help of Congress, because Congress really controls the
Speaker 3: purse strings, and if you want to close an agency
Speaker 3: like the Department of Education, Congress only Congress can do that.
Speaker 3: The President and DOGE can't do that on their own.
Speaker 3: So this is ultimately going to have to be a
Speaker 3: team effort between the White House and Congress in order
Speaker 3: to scale back and cut the amount of government spending.
Speaker 3: We need to cover this tax bill. So there's a
Speaker 3: lot of work ahead of them. And right now everybody
Speaker 3: seems to be avoiding. They're avoiding the hard choices, and
Speaker 3: that shouldn't surprise anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, Scott Hodge, I've been at this a long time
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't see Republicans agreeing among themselves
Speaker 1: to do this, much less Democrats agreeing with Republicans to
Speaker 1: eliminate the Department of Education. I can't in the real world.
Speaker 1: I can't conceive of that happening. No, it's not going
Speaker 1: to happen. You can talk about or cutting around the edges,
Speaker 1: but the core is not going to change. And you
Speaker 1: can talk about dead Social Security recipients and that all
Speaker 1: that should happen, unemployment to dead people. Absolutely, eight month
Speaker 1: old children getting loans from PPP, eight month old babies
Speaker 1: getting loans. Yeah, now, all that should be done, but
Speaker 1: none of that's going to truly affect the federal spending,
Speaker 1: which is north of six trillion dollars a year. Correct,
Speaker 1: All that stuff that doesn't add up to a hell
Speaker 1: of beans.
Speaker 3: No, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. It
Speaker 3: just means that it's just has to be part of
Speaker 3: the solution. It is not the solution. So we need
Speaker 3: a combination of spending reform and tax reform to get
Speaker 3: the job done. If we're going to try it, if
Speaker 3: we're going to really try to balance the budget, we're
Speaker 3: going to have to do both.
Speaker 1: Do you see that happening? Get out to your political
Speaker 1: crystal ball. I mean, the Republicans rarely agree among themselves,
Speaker 1: much less letting Democrats come along.
Speaker 2: I don't see.
Speaker 1: And how about the issue of the thirty six trillion
Speaker 1: dollar national that most Americans don't know what a trillion
Speaker 1: dollars is or a billion dollars or a million, have
Speaker 1: no idea. We owe thirty six trillion. The interest rate
Speaker 1: on that is about one trillion dollars a year, an
Speaker 1: interest we pay that goes to bondholder says we had
Speaker 1: raised the money just to pay that. And so assuming
Speaker 1: that the Republicans can't get it done, and politis go
Speaker 1: back and forth, we wave left, waverright, come back, and
Speaker 1: right now things are hunky dory for the Republicans, but
Speaker 1: I can see in two or four years is going
Speaker 1: to be Democrats going to be in charge. They're going
Speaker 1: to start spending more money. So let's say at this
Speaker 1: point you and I are round in about five or
Speaker 1: six years from now, and the accumulated national debt in
Speaker 1: those years grow by fourteen trillion dollars, which will take
Speaker 1: about seven years at current rates of spending, and that
Speaker 1: means we're going to have a fifty fifty trillion dollar
Speaker 1: national debt. And the interest rates aren't going to be
Speaker 1: one and two percent, They're going to be four and
Speaker 1: five percent. So let's say we own at some point
Speaker 1: in the next six or seven years fifty trillion dollars,
Speaker 1: and the interest on that is going to be two
Speaker 1: trillion dollars a year. Where does that money come from?
Speaker 3: Well, at some point we run out of places to
Speaker 3: borrow it or run out of places to tax to
Speaker 3: get it. And that's the reality. I mean, Bill, I've
Speaker 3: been in Washington thirty five years. When I came to Washington,
Speaker 3: the federal budget was just climbing over one trillion dollars.
Speaker 3: And look where we're at now, and and it has
Speaker 3: been very frustrating to watch the lack of of fiscal
Speaker 3: responsibility by both parties, frankly, and it just keeps getting worse.
Speaker 3: And you do wonder what the catalyst is going to
Speaker 3: be to force the kind of action that's needed to
Speaker 3: get the fiscal house in order. I mean, we're beginning
Speaker 3: to see that now with you know, the federal with
Speaker 3: with the bonds. You know, uh, investors are liquid in
Speaker 3: the US bonds, so uh, and they're letting the dollars
Speaker 3: going down. So maybe the global economy is beginning to
Speaker 3: sour on the United States as a place a safe haven.
Speaker 3: And maybe that's the kind of catalysts that will wake
Speaker 3: people up and say, hey, we've got to change our
Speaker 3: behavior or else the rest of the world is simply
Speaker 3: going to stop loaning this money to pay off this
Speaker 3: big debt.
Speaker 1: And what happens when that occurs. Let's say it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's twenty on, so does say it's twenty thirty, which
Speaker 1: isn't like too far in the distance. We're close to
Speaker 1: twenty thirty as we are to twenty twenty. It's twenty thirty,
Speaker 1: and we go to the quarterly and we need billions
Speaker 1: of dollars more. We borrow six billion dollars every day
Speaker 1: in brand new money, and suddenly the bond holders say,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I need more interest. Are we facing
Speaker 1: a predictive financial catastrophe unless we start dealing with it,
Speaker 1: which is unlikely. We have a calamity coming of historical
Speaker 1: financial proportions in this country.
Speaker 3: Well, the reality is that the debt or the interest
Speaker 3: on the payments on the debt start creeping into the
Speaker 3: federal budget and basically eliminating or taking away the room
Speaker 3: for other types of programs. And so really that's the
Speaker 3: kind of wake up call for Washington. Look, if we're
Speaker 3: spending too much on interest on the debt, there's no
Speaker 3: room for education or roads or highways or airline, know,
Speaker 3: anything else that people see as a priority. Those programs
Speaker 3: will get short shrift because we're spending all of our
Speaker 3: money on the national debt. That's kind of the reality
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: Well, Scott, I don't think the American people understand that
Speaker 1: we can talk about that.
Speaker 2: We're blue in the face.
Speaker 1: The only way to solve this is grossly increased taxes
Speaker 1: extremely unpopular, grossly cut spending extremely unpopular, or print trillions
Speaker 1: of dollars or more money, which you cause rampant inflation,
Speaker 1: and that's terribly Inflation isn't too popular. Taxes going up
Speaker 1: not too popular, Cutting benefits not too popular.
Speaker 2: So Scott Hodge, what do we do?
Speaker 3: We get into a death spiral in which the economy
Speaker 3: begins to shrink as a result of all of that.
Speaker 3: We've seen that with other countries like Greece and elsewhere where.
Speaker 3: They have just run up the national debt. They've ruined
Speaker 3: the economy so that it can't produce enough economic growth
Speaker 3: to cover the debt, and that could be the situation
Speaker 3: we're in. We're lucky that we're still a very dynamic
Speaker 3: economy and we seem to be suffering through this. But
Speaker 3: at some point, you know, we got to pay the piper,
Speaker 3: and it's going to take a lot of political courage
Speaker 3: and leadership in order to turn this ship around.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's going to take a lot of courage, and
Speaker 1: I don't see a politicians having That's it's the most
Speaker 1: predictive calamity ever to strike this country. It's almost as
Speaker 1: if the nine to eleven planes are miles away. They're
Speaker 1: not going to hit for about five years a we
Speaker 1: ignore them. At some point, we're going to have a
Speaker 1: terrible catastrophe unless we have a come to Jesus moment
Speaker 1: and hasn't happened yet. I hope it does. But Scott Hodge,
Speaker 1: former president of the Tax Foundation, a Washington insider, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show in this tax
Speaker 1: Day April fifteenth, twenty twenty five. Scott Hodge, thank you
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more if a line becomes available five one, three, seven,
Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand three choices One do you want
Speaker 1: grossly increase in taxes? Do you want gross cut and benefits?
Speaker 1: Or or do you want to print trillions of dollars
Speaker 1: of new money which causes rampant inflation? Those are the
Speaker 1: three choices. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW My Bill Cunningham, the Grand American to purse our
Speaker 1: governor as Governor Mike Dwine buys himself somewhere in Cleveland
Speaker 1: this afternoon, trying to get out. I'm sure, and nonetheless,
Speaker 1: Governor Mike Dwine, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And first of all, Governor, the last couple of days,
Speaker 1: I've watched the criminal activities of seemingly a deranged homicidal
Speaker 1: fool who tried to kill your fellow Governor Josh Shapiro
Speaker 1: by fire bombing his home. I'm amazed, first of all,
Speaker 1: that this person can get over a fence, have a
Speaker 1: Molotov cocktails home brew, throw through window, walk in, and
Speaker 1: he said he had a mallet with him, that he
Speaker 1: was he was gonna kill Josh Shapiro. If the Governor
Speaker 1: had come down the step saying what's going on, we
Speaker 1: could have had a real tragedy. Part of the risk
Speaker 1: of being in public life that you've been there for
Speaker 1: I guess half century or more, is is there some
Speaker 1: nut jobs that may want to come after you. You've
Speaker 1: I've been kind enough being invited to your home, and
Speaker 1: I noticed there was one or two highway patrolman standing around,
Speaker 1: but not I don't know. About two o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: did what happen to Governor Josh Shapiro calls you any
Speaker 1: alarm or concern about your own physical safety?
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you know, our heart goes out
Speaker 5: to the Shapiro's. You know, I texted him as soon
Speaker 5: as I've found out. We had worked together on different
Speaker 5: things having to do with the border. When we had
Speaker 5: these Palestine train derailment. You know, that was almost right
Speaker 5: on the border, and so we got to know each
Speaker 5: other through that. So, you know, a shocking thing, a
Speaker 5: very very you know, very very sad situation. I think
Speaker 5: you know, every governor around the country, and every governor's
Speaker 5: security uh you know, probably was going through, at least
Speaker 5: in their minds, some assessment of you know.
Speaker 3: How well are we doing?
Speaker 5: Uh, you know that's what that's what you always do.
Speaker 5: And you know, we certainly have have security. You know,
Speaker 5: there are people who write letters. We get letters that
Speaker 5: you know, are threatening most of the time when they
Speaker 5: check them out. These are people who uh you know
Speaker 5: aren't aren't really serious, but there are people out there.
Speaker 5: They're bad people out there, and so it certainly is concerned.
Speaker 5: I mean when you think about it, Bill, you know
Speaker 5: just a few years ago that uh, you know, there
Speaker 5: was going to be an attempt on the governor, Governor
Speaker 5: Whimmer of Michigan to kidnap her if you remember that,
Speaker 5: and they you know, they stopped that before it actually
Speaker 5: took place. Uh. So you know, here you've got Michigan
Speaker 5: and here you've got Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: So it's it's very concerning, all right.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Bengals deal. Of course, you live
Speaker 1: in Green County and pretty close to Cincinnati, far away
Speaker 1: from Cleveland we are this afternoon. But the deal is
Speaker 1: that was positioned by the media was that the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns were getting six hundred and sixty million to Jimmy
Speaker 1: Haslam to move the Brownies from the on the Lake
Speaker 1: to southern Cuyahoga County as part of like a two
Speaker 1: and a half to three billion dollar development that the
Speaker 1: and that the Bengals and the Brown family came hat
Speaker 1: in hands.
Speaker 2: What about us?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: I had on Representative Adam Bird of New Richmond, who
Speaker 1: laid out the plans as to why the Bengals aren't
Speaker 1: going to get the money. Senator Blessing of Coleraine Township said,
Speaker 1: the Bengals aren't going to get the money. It's a
Speaker 1: different deal. And you're the governor, I would ask you,
Speaker 1: are the Bengals going to get three hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: or so out of either either the General Revenue Fund
Speaker 1: or through bonding, and so the Bengals can do their
Speaker 1: one third part. According to Denise Streetthouse, she said one
Speaker 1: third from the state, one third from the Bengals. Slash
Speaker 1: NFL one third from the county. Where do you stand
Speaker 1: on this issue, if anywhere, Governor Mike Dewan.
Speaker 5: Well, Bill, thanks for asking. First of all, I am
Speaker 5: a Bengals fan, uh and season ticket holder for a
Speaker 5: long time, you know, enjoy watching them a great deal,
Speaker 5: and so that would be my first confession, I guess so.
Speaker 5: But look here, here's how I look at it. Let
Speaker 5: me just kind of walk people through this because I
Speaker 5: think it's a good question and there's been a lot
Speaker 5: written and I want to maybe try to clarify some things.
Speaker 5: You know, First of all, the state has put money.
Speaker 5: Taxpayers of the state have put money into stadiums going back,
Speaker 5: you know, sixty years ago, fifty years ago, and it's
Speaker 5: been you know, off and on. Every few years there's been,
Speaker 5: you know, an expansion of a ballpark or reconfiguration or
Speaker 5: building of a new one, and the state has put
Speaker 5: some money into it. It's never been a huge amount
Speaker 5: or not a huge percentage. I don't think it's ever
Speaker 5: been over fifteen percent of the total cost. But we
Speaker 5: do that and people say, why do you do that? Look,
Speaker 5: we do that because part of the quality of life
Speaker 5: in Ohio, and I think we have a great quality
Speaker 5: of life is we have great professional sports that are
Speaker 5: close to virtually everybody in the state. We also have theater,
Speaker 5: we also have the arts. We have you know, all
Speaker 5: kinds of different things that make our lives better and
Speaker 5: sports is one of them. And we want to be
Speaker 5: able to compete and keep these teams here in Ohio.
Speaker 5: So that's probably going to continue. But we have now
Speaker 5: more sports teams. We have two new soccer teams, you know, not.
Speaker 3: Real new, but relatively new. Know, we like them. That's
Speaker 3: that's great.
Speaker 5: It looks like it's going to be a women's soccer
Speaker 5: team that's going to come to Cleveland. So that's going
Speaker 5: to be another team. And we could go on and on.
Speaker 5: And the truth is, Bill that we no longer can
Speaker 5: can afford to take money from the general fund, from
Speaker 5: directly from the tax payers, because when we do it,
Speaker 5: we're taking that directly away from education, We're taking away
Speaker 5: from mental health, we're taking that away from uh, you know, helping.
Speaker 3: People who have addictions.
Speaker 5: But there is there is a pathway, uh and I
Speaker 5: think it's a it's a good pathway. And this is
Speaker 5: what I've I have suggested to the legislature and it's
Speaker 5: what is in the what was in the bill that
Speaker 5: I sent to the legislature, UH, and that is that
Speaker 5: we increase the fee or tax, whatever you want to
Speaker 5: call it, UH on these sports gaming companies UH that
Speaker 5: are making you know, hundreds and hundreds of millions of
Speaker 5: dollars they're taking out out of the state every year.
Speaker 1: UH.
Speaker 5: They don't They don't work in the state. They don't
Speaker 5: have him laoyees in the state. It all goes outside.
Speaker 5: And so getting the fee that we charge them higher
Speaker 5: to help us with these stadiums in the future makes sense. Frankly,
Speaker 5: I have to look at this from the Bengals point
Speaker 5: of view, the Browns point of view, or the Reds.
Speaker 5: I have to look at it from you know, the
Speaker 5: whole state. So here's what our proposal would do.
Speaker 2: Would we would.
Speaker 5: Raise this fee that we charge these gaming companies. We
Speaker 5: would raise it, take it from twenty to forty. We
Speaker 5: would still not be the highest in the country New
Speaker 5: York State for examples of fifty. This would not come
Speaker 5: from the gamblers, It would not come from the citizens
Speaker 5: who place a bet. It would come directly from these companies.
Speaker 5: We looked the other day bill for example, at some
Speaker 5: of the states that have low, low, low tax versus
Speaker 5: they say New York. The odds that these companies were
Speaker 5: quoting was identical in the states. So by putting his
Speaker 5: tax on, they're not going to hurt or change the
Speaker 5: odds for our gamers. That this would generate somewhere between
Speaker 5: one hundred, one hundred and fifty to one hundred and
Speaker 5: eighty to one hundred and ninety million dollars a year.
Speaker 5: My plan would be to put that into a fund,
Speaker 5: and that would be the fund that would grow every
Speaker 5: year and it could be used for all the things
Speaker 5: you know. To put the state share in. It certainly
Speaker 5: wouldn't pay for the renovation of these ballparks the stadiums completely,
Speaker 5: but it would it would do the state share, which
Speaker 5: we should be doing. And it's I think it's a
Speaker 5: good proposal, and that's proposal that I've asked the General
Speaker 5: Assembly to pass.
Speaker 2: All right now.
Speaker 1: On that issue, I asked your friend Adam Bird, who's
Speaker 1: in the leadership of the House, about that, and I
Speaker 1: also ask him about increasing marijuana, that's a different issue,
Speaker 1: and he said he said he's not going to vote
Speaker 1: for that because that's a tax increase. It may be
Speaker 1: a fee increase, but all these conservative Republicans have said,
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. And so because we're increasing taxes,
Speaker 1: how would you respond to the Senator Blessing and others
Speaker 1: who said we're not doing that.
Speaker 5: Well, it's it certainly is better than taking it from
Speaker 5: taxpayers in Ohio.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: This is not taking taxpayers Ohio money.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: It's taking it from these gaming companies. They're out of state.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: And and they're they're taking hundreds literally hundreds of millions
Speaker 5: of dollars in profit every single year. They can they
Speaker 5: can spend a little that money, and it would be
Speaker 5: a tax. And again, they're not going to leave Ohio
Speaker 5: or the sixth largest state as far as gaming. Uh,
Speaker 5: They're going to continue to be here. And just as
Speaker 5: in New York and New Hampshire and some other states
Speaker 5: that have higher fees that we would have or higher
Speaker 5: taxes than we would have, you know, they're not they're
Speaker 5: not going to leave. Uh. And so this money, there's
Speaker 5: some justice that seems to me, uh that these gaming
Speaker 5: companies that really don't have any investment, investment in stadium
Speaker 5: or anything else would have to pay some of this,
Speaker 5: some of their profit would go towards maintaining the ballparks
Speaker 5: and the stadiums that we have in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: So you're one third of the deal. You're the governor.
Speaker 1: You got the lawmakers or are saying and once I've
Speaker 1: spoken to and saying no. Also, the Bengals went the
Speaker 1: money up front, Governor. In other words, according to Denise Treetouse,
Speaker 1: it's about nine hundred million. They don't want this over
Speaker 1: the next five to ten or twenty years. They need
Speaker 1: it like immediately, like three hundred million dollars from the
Speaker 1: state as the state's part of the puzzle. Are you
Speaker 1: saying that's a non starter.
Speaker 5: Oh, I wouldn't say it's a non starter. What I'm
Speaker 5: saying is we can't pay for it our general funds.
Speaker 3: We can't.
Speaker 5: We can't rob education, we can't rob mental health. We
Speaker 5: just can't do that. Bill listen to all the people
Speaker 5: who are lining up for money.
Speaker 3: So the only way we can we can.
Speaker 5: Effectively do it is to again of the fee or
Speaker 5: tax or whatever you want to call it, of these
Speaker 5: gaming companies that are making such a huge.
Speaker 3: Amount of money. We can do that.
Speaker 5: We can we can levy that tax or leave that
Speaker 5: fee and and create the money. Frankly, that's necessary to
Speaker 5: meet some of these needs. There are all of these
Speaker 5: needs as you see around the state. Now, what percentage
Speaker 5: the state ends up putting in it, I don't know.
Speaker 5: That would have to be determined in the future. The
Speaker 5: state is put in to my recollection bill, and most
Speaker 5: of the state has ever put in I think was
Speaker 5: fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3: Now I may be wrong.
Speaker 5: I have to check, but it's it's so when we're
Speaker 5: talking about you know, six hundred million from the from
Speaker 5: for the Browns and three and fifty uh you know
Speaker 5: for the Bengals, I'm not saying that's impossible. If possible,
Speaker 5: you can monetize this money. Know you're having a flow
Speaker 5: of that money coming out. But this money would also
Speaker 5: be available frankly from the minor league baseball teams Dayton
Speaker 5: Dragons for example. You know this this would be available
Speaker 5: for soccer, you know what, every other major league sport
Speaker 5: that we have uh in in the.
Speaker 3: State of Ohio.
Speaker 5: So you know, I can't guarantee what would be available.
Speaker 5: But again, at one hundred and fifty to one hundred
Speaker 5: and eighty a million a year, that's going to flow
Speaker 5: out month after month. After month. People are not going
Speaker 5: to stop gaming as much as you know, we might
Speaker 5: want them to, but they're not going to do that,
Speaker 5: and so the money is going to be their bill
Speaker 5: to I think, you know, make a major contribution to
Speaker 5: all of these stadiums when it comes time, you know,
Speaker 5: for them to be rehabbed or if there's a building
Speaker 5: of a new one.
Speaker 1: I got to talk to about the coroner's office being eliminated,
Speaker 1: but we'll get to that in a moment. So, uh,
Speaker 1: if you get in an additional one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: to say, two hundred million a year and chop it
Speaker 1: up among seven or eight sports teams, that doesn't leave
Speaker 1: a large piece.
Speaker 2: And the bangs was eight three hundred million dollars like.
Speaker 5: Now, well, Billy, you know every everything you know and
Speaker 5: and by the way, you know when you talk about Bengals,
Speaker 5: I mean that request is coming from the county. Uh.
Speaker 5: You know the county has been the ones who have
Speaker 5: made that request request to us. But you know it
Speaker 5: is something that you know, Look, the Bengals stadium, uh
Speaker 5: has has to be brought up to speed. We understand that,
Speaker 5: you know, the other stadiums do as well. But you
Speaker 5: talked about cutting it up among seven ways.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: The truth is Bill that that these stadiums, you know,
Speaker 5: sort of come to over different periods of time. You
Speaker 5: could probably sit down, uh and with a chart, uh
Speaker 5: and figure out how much money would be needed you know,
Speaker 5: every single year.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know you've got some of the new ones won't
Speaker 5: be needed, that money will not be needed for a while,
Speaker 5: uh and again and again. Look, let me just kind
Speaker 5: of summarize, Uh. I don't think we should be taking
Speaker 5: taxpayers dollars in the state of Ohio, uh that are
Speaker 5: paid for buyer taxpayers that would normally go to education,
Speaker 5: that would normally go to other things, and take that
Speaker 5: away and put it in the stadiums when we have
Speaker 5: a great opportunity and a great alternative, and that alternative
Speaker 5: is to take it from the people who are making
Speaker 5: the money, and that is the sports gaming companies.
Speaker 1: Well, I had one punit say that the taxpayer who
Speaker 1: can't afford to go to the Bengal football games are
Speaker 1: going to fps to continue to pay a sales tax
Speaker 1: to a billionaires. Does the fact that Jimmy Haslam and
Speaker 1: the Brown family are worth multi billions of dollars there's
Speaker 1: a sense by some like Adam Bird that maybe they
Speaker 1: should contribute a lot more money. It looks like Jimmy
Speaker 1: HASLM he's contributing about sixteen percent of the deal, which
Speaker 1: is close to your fifteen percent. But looks like the
Speaker 1: Bengals would be contributing or the state would be contributing
Speaker 1: more like thirty three percent, which might be a non starter.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, the governor is saying, let's go down this
Speaker 1: route to see what we can do.
Speaker 2: You're kind of saying, let's see what happens to next.
Speaker 5: Bill, Bill, I just have to correct you that those
Speaker 5: are numbers are not right. As far as the Browns,
Speaker 5: I mean their proposal, their proposal, uh, you know, they're
Speaker 5: asking for six hundred million, a lot of money. But
Speaker 5: their proposal I think is for them to put in
Speaker 5: one point three something like that, So you know, that's
Speaker 5: still a lot of money. I'm on both fronts now.
Speaker 1: Lastly, there's a provision in the legislature to eliminate all
Speaker 1: the county corners offices. My friend doctor asked me some
Speaker 1: Marco and Hamilton County corner elected is not happy about that.
Speaker 1: I would think the other corners are not happy. Of course,
Speaker 1: they think it's coming that the county auditor, treasure or clerk.
Speaker 1: Of course, maybe the sheriff. That'll drive Richard Richard K.
Speaker 1: Jones bananas. Uh do you support the idea of eliminating
Speaker 1: the right of the people to vote for corners and
Speaker 1: the Uh?
Speaker 4: No, I don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, thisis came out nowhere. I'm not sure
Speaker 5: why where it really came from. Uh, but look, we
Speaker 5: we elect corners. Now if you look at small counties,
Speaker 5: I don't want to get too far off the point,
Speaker 5: but I'll stay with corners.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, probably what.
Speaker 5: Needs to be done in this state is we need
Speaker 5: to help particularly the small counties.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, pay for the autopsies.
Speaker 5: You know, these autopsies as you know, if it's in
Speaker 5: Brown County or Adams County, you know, Claremont County. None
Speaker 5: of these are being done. I don't think in these
Speaker 5: local counties. They have to go to there's about five
Speaker 5: or six places in the state where these autopsies take place,
Speaker 5: and they have to charge. They of course charge these counties.
Speaker 5: So it is a real burden, particularly on the on
Speaker 5: the smaller on the smaller counties. You know, our our
Speaker 5: our our friend the doctor of the corner of of
Speaker 5: your friend of mine.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know she does a very very good job, I
Speaker 5: think in regard to Hamilton County.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's a big operation.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Look, it's important as these autopsies be done timely, and
Speaker 5: they'll be done well. So quarters probably another discussion another day.
Speaker 5: But the idea that we take this away from the
Speaker 5: people's right to vote, I'm not in favor of.
Speaker 1: It's the beginning of getting rid of a share of vote,
Speaker 1: getting rid of the auditor treasure's clerk at courts, streamlining government,
Speaker 1: reforming government.
Speaker 2: All that's good.
Speaker 1: But when you tell to a Republican we're going to
Speaker 1: take away your right to vote, that's kind of a
Speaker 1: serious problem. You're against that. Well, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But we got about ten weeks to go until June thirtieth.
Speaker 1: That's the deadline for the Bengals and a deadline for
Speaker 1: your capital budget. This will be your last one. By
Speaker 1: the time this thing is over with in the summer
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty seven, you'll be shall we say, it'll
Speaker 1: be history, you'll be done.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: We get we have this regular budget, as you say,
Speaker 5: but we also next year will have a capital budget.
Speaker 5: So really in the process of finishing the major budget,
Speaker 5: but we have a ways to go. The cent of course,
Speaker 5: Bill is not not really taking this up yet.
Speaker 3: They will do that when they come back in.
Speaker 5: Two weeks and we'll kind of see where we go.
Speaker 1: All right, Governor, thank you very much, but we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with the Bengals. This is coming to a
Speaker 1: head soon, and stay safe. And Governor Mike DeWine, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And the
Speaker 1: next time I have dinner with you in your home,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be looking over my shoulder.
Speaker 3: Ah, thank you, Bill, go talking with you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Governor.
Speaker 5: I think I think you should probably always look over
Speaker 5: your shoulder. Bill, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're right. All right, Governor, thank you very much.
Speaker 5: Sake hi, budd, thank you.
Speaker 2: Ye bye bye.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more and if line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand. The governor has tepid support for the deal,
Speaker 1: but it must be structuring away. The money comes from
Speaker 1: the gaming tax and not from the general fund. Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham News Radio seven hundred. Wow, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do this job. I would never run for office, but
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I wanted to make sure I did
Speaker 1: everything I did to.
Speaker 6: Keep us safe while repairing some of the damaged reputation
Speaker 6: of this office. And I think we're on We're well
Speaker 6: on the way to doing that.
Speaker 7: And hello, quiet skos, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Those are the comments of our new County Prosecutor, Connie
Speaker 1: Pillage about Melissa Powers and Joe Dieters. Quote, restore the
Speaker 1: damage reputation to this office? What do you think the
Speaker 1: damage is? Segment? Where do you st to have with
Speaker 1: my good friend Joe Deaterers and Melissa Powers.
Speaker 8: I don't think there's any damage to I mean those
Speaker 8: who did a wonderful job, didn't he I mean I
Speaker 8: wonder what damage needs to be repaired in the Prosecutor's office.
Speaker 8: Joe put the killers away, showed he or Zo di Chi?
Speaker 2: You have some sports there? Segment?
Speaker 8: Have you got any comments from Justice Joe yet?
Speaker 2: Just off the air?
Speaker 1: Can't say, can't say, Willie.
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Speaker 1: I think the voters have spoken, but no one has
Speaker 1: been a better prosecutor than Joe Deaters, Melissa Powers, et cetera,
Speaker 1: and I love those two individuals. They did a great job.
Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 8: coming up this Friday. I love Red's update tonight. Red's
Speaker 8: up against the Seattle Mariners.
Speaker 2: But segment, here are some facts for you if you're interested.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: The first eight games the Reds are two and six right.
Speaker 1: The last eight games the Reds are six and two, correct,
Speaker 1: And between now and May twentieth, they don't play a
Speaker 1: team as of today that has a winning record. So
Speaker 1: the next five weeks got to make some hay. But
Speaker 1: with Ted McKay, Louis Louis is pitching the.
Speaker 8: Former Red Louis Castillo Willie at one and one with
Speaker 8: a two to twelve. Vra goes with the Mariners tonight
Speaker 8: while the Reds counter with Nicolodolo two and one, zero
Speaker 8: point nine six. Randy Johnson like five point forty Sports
Speaker 8: Doc Rnell carriers in, I'd pitch and then Kelsey Chevrolet
Speaker 8: Extra Inning show after the game. Now, Seattle is nineteen
Speaker 8: and five all time against Cincinnati. That's a seven ninety
Speaker 8: two where that's the best winning percentage against any single
Speaker 8: opponent in franchise history.
Speaker 2: Really, right, how about that?
Speaker 8: Seattle nineteen and five all time against Cincinnati. I wonder
Speaker 8: why I can't remember them playing twenty four games over
Speaker 8: the years.
Speaker 2: Have they?
Speaker 1: I guess they did go back to the Randy Johnson era.
Speaker 1: Guess so A Rod and Ken Griffy Junior. I'm not sure.
Speaker 8: Let's see Matt McClaine, Austin Hayes, and Alexis Diaz who
Speaker 8: do to be reactivated today. So there should be a
Speaker 8: slew of roster moves coming up here. Let's see another
Speaker 8: pr nightmare for the Pirates.
Speaker 1: By the way, I have a text here from a
Speaker 1: Joe Dieter supporter besides the following, maybe Connie Pillage shouldn't
Speaker 1: give cupcake plea deals to murderers that kill kids on
Speaker 1: their front line of us see from a supporter of
Speaker 1: Joe Deaters. Once again, maybe Connie Pillage should not give
Speaker 1: cupcake deal plea deals to murderers that killed kids on
Speaker 1: the front line at U. See which you carried to
Speaker 1: comment on those comments. I'm a Joe Dieters supporter. I'm
Speaker 1: leaving that one alone.
Speaker 8: Uh, let's see the pirates saying they saying the Pirates
Speaker 8: right before the opener, Uh, for some reason covered over
Speaker 8: over a tribute and right field to Roberto Clemente for
Speaker 8: an advertisement mistake there that sent the Steel City into
Speaker 8: a frenzy. Now now families who bought Bucco bricks to
Speaker 8: be placed in front of the ballpark to support the
Speaker 8: Clemente Foundation have dis have discovered them tossed at a
Speaker 8: recycling center without notice, and some have been crushed.
Speaker 2: So what does that mean?
Speaker 8: The Pirates are a mess on the field and the
Speaker 8: only the only guy they got is worth anything is
Speaker 8: Paul Skeins. The rest of them, did you get a
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Speaker 8: Bengals held their annual local pro day today inside the
Speaker 8: inside the bubble not flooded. Fourteen players from UC were
Speaker 8: taking part, thirteen from Miami and a bunch others from
Speaker 8: other schools. So good luck to those gentlemen. Let's see
Speaker 8: oh sad news Willie Cincinnati native Don Hasselback, who started
Speaker 8: football and basketball at LaSalle before playing tight end and
Speaker 8: for nine NFL seasons. As I passed away he was seventy.
Speaker 8: Hasselbacker helped the Raiders to a Super Bowl title in
Speaker 8: his day. He was the father of two former NFL quarterbacks,
Speaker 8: Matt and Tim Hasselback. How about that basketball? Steve Gentry
Speaker 8: is returning to Withrow, the home of the Tigers, as
Speaker 8: a head basketball coach, who moves there after two seasons
Speaker 8: at Percell.
Speaker 2: But what does he noted four segment.
Speaker 8: Previously a head coach at Withrow two thousand of two
Speaker 8: thousand and five with more than two hundred and fifty wins.
Speaker 8: But of course he is known for the state championship
Speaker 8: at Deer Park.
Speaker 1: Undefeated untied, unscored on. It was twenty eighteen and a
Speaker 1: note in alumnus had the privilege of cutting down the
Speaker 1: neck at the Ohio State Arena.
Speaker 2: Who's that guy?
Speaker 8: Who's that old man in that that Deer Park uniform
Speaker 8: out there? The TV guys, I'm just laughing, but you
Speaker 8: find you because they didn't know who you were?
Speaker 2: And I was upset at spectrum. What that's right?
Speaker 1: It wasn't about me running around like a nut on
Speaker 1: my old deer Park jersey cutting down the nets had
Speaker 1: value city arena. It sounds like a wrestling venture. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: when Steve Gentry with his son Steve Gentry Junior, i'velong
Speaker 1: with Joe Hawker, Jalen Rose, Domightdy MacIntyre had all kicked
Speaker 1: ass like mister ass and we went undefeated, untied, unscored
Speaker 1: on in twenty eighteen and one to state title under
Speaker 1: the leadership of Steve Gentry and Mark Wise. Would you
Speaker 1: got to comment on that? That says it all right there?
Speaker 8: Let's see Willia, it's a Crosstown shootout tonight in baseball?
Speaker 8: What Xavier and U se at uc at six? Oh
Speaker 8: Bearcats safety Ken Willis football has entered the transfer portal
Speaker 8: during the final week of spring practice.
Speaker 2: He's out. He's out. Second you see defensive player now
Speaker 2: in the portal. In a week he's out. So who's
Speaker 2: playing with else?
Speaker 1: By the way, ken Brew, who was prowling the hallways
Speaker 1: about an hour ago, yeah, said that it had some
Speaker 1: ranking in the three hundred teams that played Division one
Speaker 1: college basketball.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Number ten on the list for available nil money is Xavier.
Speaker 8: Xavier picked. Xavier picked up like what four guys over
Speaker 8: the weekend. All it takes is money. Somebody's got a
Speaker 8: lot of money at Xavier. That's all I can say.
Speaker 8: I can't so might that be? Can't say. CBS as
Speaker 8: the final round of the Masters through twelve point seven
Speaker 8: million viewers, up thirty three percent from last year and
Speaker 8: the most watched since twenty eighteen. That number Pete do
Speaker 8: over nineteen and a half million.
Speaker 1: After seven o'clock, I couldn't get my eyes off the screen.
Speaker 1: I was watching Shakespeare in drama. Rory McElroy couldn't win,
Speaker 1: then he couldn't lose, Then he couldn't win, then he
Speaker 1: couldn't lose.
Speaker 8: An emotional mental roller coaster. Sunday, Yes for him, justin Rose,
Speaker 8: Jim Nance.
Speaker 1: Everyone in America, and now he's one of the masters
Speaker 1: of the universe. Gene Saracen, Ben Hogan, Gary Player, Jolden Bear,
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, Rory McElroy a master of the universe. I'd
Speaker 1: get a betternette once again. My friend defending Joe Dieters
Speaker 1: says the following seg men, Oh boy, maybe she maybe
Speaker 1: Pillage should not give cupcake plea deals to murderers that
Speaker 1: killed kids on the front line at You see, that's.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you said. That was from a supporter of Joe Dieters.
Speaker 2: That is a supporter. She's talking.
Speaker 1: They're talking about Countie Pillage giving cupcake deals to murderers.
Speaker 2: Okay, and what now who sent that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: You tell me?
Speaker 1: Ins are t oh Terrell Owens bingo right now, it's
Speaker 1: not time your roar. It's Terrell Owens. Oh okay, Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 8: I didn't know that that was you know, how about
Speaker 8: this guy breaking into the governor's mansion.
Speaker 2: What's up with that? Mentally ill homicidal? How'd you get in?
Speaker 2: How did you get in? Yeah? I'm thinking, uh, whoever's
Speaker 2: the head of security?
Speaker 9: There.
Speaker 2: Not good, he's now unemployed. Not good? Thank you? Segment?
Speaker 2: Is that it in sports? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We continue, We never stop. We simply computers offices in
Speaker 1: a got a vote, restore the damaged reputation. Oh ouch,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Some have taken ouch, many have taken
Speaker 1: Umbridge at that. I'd say, no, that may not be
Speaker 1: exactly accurate, correct, especially someone named t o.
Speaker 8: Television news Terrell Owens, that's it right there. You mean
Speaker 8: he's on that show with Steven A. Smith, Right, he's
Speaker 8: going to be president of the United States, they say,
Speaker 8: Terrell Owens.
Speaker 2: No Steven A. Smith segment. Get me out of the Stew's report.
Speaker 8: Willie, and out of a beautiful day here at the
Speaker 8: tri State. We leave you with the immortal words of
Speaker 8: the stud.
Speaker 3: Report objected to is argumentative, assuming in fact, not an evidence,
Speaker 3: leading and suggestive and utterly incompetent, irrelevant in the material.
Speaker 2: That's all right there sounds to me like it's a
Speaker 2: bad question.
Speaker 1: Wow, would you like to rephrase that counselor I made
Speaker 1: That happened a few times. That was completely revan, mister Cunningham.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. It's a matter not in evidence,
Speaker 1: and it calls upon here's a testimony illegally presented. Mister Counahan.
Speaker 1: We'd like to rephrase your question.
Speaker 8: I said, yes, no, I will hold on with that
Speaker 8: car wise, gentlemen, I'll rephrase that question, your honor on
Speaker 8: seven hundred WLI.
Speaker 1: Of course, a very active Tuesday afternoon. Lot's going on.
Speaker 1: Fret's baseball kicks off tonight. We'll see what happens. Always
Speaker 1: good to hear from the governor. He holds great power
Speaker 1: along with Matta Huffman and many others in Columbus. Le's
Speaker 1: break down the Bengals deal and the Brown's deal. Where
Speaker 1: we are where we think we are? And also I
Speaker 1: want to talk about the murder of Benjamin Addison, twenty
Speaker 1: one year old kid that was murdered in cold blood
Speaker 1: by Justin Dugan who was forty one years old. You
Speaker 1: have to look at this thing and say, how in
Speaker 1: the hell can something I may I add a slight sentence,
Speaker 1: and you heard Jamie spoke in the Criminal Offense attorney
Speaker 1: talk about it, and we'll talk about that in a moment.
Speaker 1: I think you never build yourself up by tearing other
Speaker 1: people down. And there's been no prosecutor's office anywhere within
Speaker 1: the sound of my voice, that received more awards and
Speaker 1: more convictions of guilty individuals than the Hamil County Prosecutor's office.
Speaker 1: And I told Connie Pillage this privately that I wish
Speaker 1: you well in her ventures to continue what's happened in
Speaker 1: Hamilton County. But she may have a different viewpoint saying
Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office has a damaged reputation. That doesn't make
Speaker 1: who calls the damage and what is the reputation. So
Speaker 1: we'll deal with that a bit later on. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: when this deal came out about a week ago, Scott
Speaker 1: Sloan's had on Alisia Reese. I've had her on quite often,
Speaker 1: also Denise Treehouse, and they fashioned a deal in their
Speaker 1: mind where the state would put in one third. Hamilton
Speaker 1: County through the sales tax that you passed doesn't have
Speaker 1: a sunset date, would put in one third, then the
Speaker 1: Bengals slash NFL would put in one third, each of
Speaker 1: putting in about three hundred million dollars. The numbers given
Speaker 1: us about eight hundred and fifty million, which is simply
Speaker 1: plucked out of the sky, but it's approximately nine hundred million,
Speaker 1: one third, one third, one third, so I'm thinking when
Speaker 1: Denise Treehouse came on, and she's very bright, she was
Speaker 1: in the in the legislature in Columbus for many years.
Speaker 1: She's from Green Township, the home of Tony Rosiello, and
Speaker 1: she said one third, one third, one third, and that
Speaker 1: she would be very disappointed if the Bengals in the
Speaker 1: next few weeks exercise their right to a two year
Speaker 1: extension keeping the present lease in place, which is a
Speaker 1: negative lease for the taxpayer. We put up about ninety
Speaker 1: five percent of the money. So yes, that's a negative lease.
Speaker 1: So in her mind makes sense. One third, one third,
Speaker 1: one third, and the county controls their one third, and
Speaker 1: the Bengals in the NFL can control it's one third,
Speaker 1: about three hundred million. But then you got this to
Speaker 1: Ohio for it's one third. Just heard Governor Mike Dwine
Speaker 1: talk about this idea of a of a fee tax
Speaker 1: increase on sports gaming from twenty percent to forty percent
Speaker 1: to be paid by these gaming companies and that would
Speaker 1: raise an additional one hundred and fifty to two hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars per year. And I said, okay, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty good start, but into that mix you have to
Speaker 1: put the Cleveland Browns have to put, the Cleveland Guardians
Speaker 1: have to put the Cincinnati Reds have to put the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. That's four teams. Then he mentioned also Minor
Speaker 1: League Baseball. There's got to be three or four of those.
Speaker 1: We're up to about six or seven teams. Throw in
Speaker 1: some FCC information and there's at least one male soccer
Speaker 1: team here, there's one in Columbus, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you got a female National Soccer League coming also. Throw
Speaker 1: put all that together, that's going to be about ten
Speaker 1: entities with their hat in their hands saying I'll take
Speaker 1: some of that money, So that one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: to two hundred million might come down to fifty into
Speaker 1: twenty million each. At least in the governor's mind. The
Speaker 1: magical amount is about fifteen percent of the state's involvement,
Speaker 1: which is an all time high fifteen percent state putting
Speaker 1: in the money. And the rest has to be local,
Speaker 1: especially by the owners of the teams, both of whom
Speaker 1: have become wealthy by owning these teams. And so if
Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslam is putting in about I don't know. According
Speaker 1: to Adam Byrd, he's putting in about eighty five percent
Speaker 1: of the deal, and the state's putting in about fifteen
Speaker 1: percent of the deal. That sounds pretty good on paper
Speaker 1: for the Brownies, and I would anticipate the Guardians will
Speaker 1: be coming around at some point along with the Reds.
Speaker 2: That's a different issue.
Speaker 1: And so also Jimmy Haslam and the Browns ownership is
Speaker 1: going to put up fifty million dollars off to the
Speaker 1: side in cash off to the side. Getting five percent
Speaker 1: interest is more or less a security deposit. And there's
Speaker 1: going to be one point three to two billion dollars
Speaker 1: put in to the deal in farm field somewhere in
Speaker 1: southern Cayhogan County.
Speaker 2: And that means that right now.
Speaker 1: Those fields aren't producing too much of a sales tax.
Speaker 1: But you put a couple billion dollars into those fields
Speaker 1: with all kinds of events going on, including a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and the NFL Draft and a lot of tractor
Speaker 1: pulls and other kinds of use of the facility, Suddenly
Speaker 1: you can say, okay, over a thirty year period, the
Speaker 1: bonds were going to let on this project payable over
Speaker 1: thirty years. So I have a revenue source where a
Speaker 1: revenue source from the activities that the deal creates. Compare
Speaker 1: that to the Bengal organization. It's already to established an
Speaker 1: entity that's not going to generate too much more in
Speaker 1: sales tax revenues. So in Cayhoga County it goes from
Speaker 1: zero to one hundreds of millions over thirty years. And
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is already a level established at the banks and
Speaker 1: Schmail Park doesn't generate any sales tax revl And the
Speaker 1: Bengals facility might be used what ten or twelve times
Speaker 1: a year if you take into account the the NFL games,
Speaker 1: maybe one or two preseason games, and also some concerts.
Speaker 1: It is completely underutilized, and therefore it doesn't have the
Speaker 1: availability of generating brand new unknown revenue which is happening
Speaker 1: in Kuyhoga County. And the other entity is this you're
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, Carl Linder the third and
Speaker 1: this family have donated millions and millions of dollars to
Speaker 1: Republican causes and some Democratic causes over the years, millions
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars. And so you know, when you
Speaker 1: pay for the ban, you call the tune. So when
Speaker 1: Carl Linder shows up and says we need some state
Speaker 1: money in addition to what we've received already for TQL
Speaker 1: next toward right now, there's spades turned and it's going
Speaker 1: up in the air, a brand new project that didn't
Speaker 1: exist before, which is hotels at different size, arena, et cetera.
Speaker 1: You can say, okay, that' you're going to generate some
Speaker 1: new new money. The Bengals organization itself will not generate
Speaker 1: new money, and that's a problem. And so you read
Speaker 1: between the lines. You have all these conservative Republican lawmakers
Speaker 1: like Matt Huffman, the Speaker, and Senator Blessing of Coraane
Speaker 1: Township and Adam Bird of Claremont County, all of whom
Speaker 1: have taken a pledge on a bible not to increase
Speaker 1: taxes or fees or whatever it might be. We're going
Speaker 1: to run the state the way it ought to be run,
Speaker 1: without additional sources or revenue. That runs contrary to the
Speaker 1: proposal of the governor to double the tax the fee
Speaker 1: on sports gaming, and also to double the tax on marijuana,
Speaker 1: the so called syn taxes, and also cigarette taxes, which
Speaker 1: you can call it a fee increase, but it's a
Speaker 1: tax on those who use use the system. Except possibly
Speaker 1: the tax on sports gaming, which the companies will pay
Speaker 1: us on to the to the customers in the form
Speaker 1: of of additional expenses to handle the gaming. And so
Speaker 1: you have ten pounds of crap going into a five
Speaker 1: pound bag, and some's going to get in, some's going
Speaker 1: to get out. But lastly, on that front, Adam Bird
Speaker 1: told me that in the House the Haslam deal in
Speaker 1: Cleveland passed by a total of one vote.
Speaker 2: That was iffy.
Speaker 1: And the Senate, I'm told, and I think Senator Blessing
Speaker 1: was all with Scott Sloane a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: He said that what passed in the House is a
Speaker 1: non starter that would never pass in the Senate. In fact, men,
Speaker 1: men not even come up in the Senate. And the
Speaker 1: governor saying he doesn't want any general fund moneies to
Speaker 1: be used for any of these projects. And these each
Speaker 1: must be standalone, and they must be able to operate
Speaker 1: within the parameters of the doubling of the fees and
Speaker 1: costs for the syntaxes, none of which the Republican Party
Speaker 1: in favor of doing anyway. And so if you have
Speaker 1: time to put this project together, you know you have
Speaker 1: two years, okay, but there's one date with two entities
Speaker 1: coming up that must be met. The state must completely
Speaker 1: sign and have in law by June thirtieth. The two
Speaker 1: year by annual budget, which goes from June June thirtieth
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five to June thirtieth of twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 1: must be done by law in the next ten weeks.
Speaker 1: On top of that, the Bengals lease is up in
Speaker 1: June thirtieth of twenty twenty six. However, if the Bengals
Speaker 1: want to move and disregard the lease, they have the
Speaker 1: power to do one of two things. One is to
Speaker 1: say we're going to we're going to extinguish the lease
Speaker 1: and we're gone as of June thirtieth of twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: which is very unlikely. The other thing is to extend
Speaker 1: the lease for two years. The lease provides a of
Speaker 1: five two year extensions, and that must be given by
Speaker 1: June thirtieth of this year. For a two year extension,
Speaker 1: which you get us up to June thirtieth of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty seven, my eyes are glazed over at this point,
Speaker 1: which means, according to Dreehouse, the Commissioner, that if that happens,
Speaker 1: that's a negative thing, because the county continues to pay
Speaker 1: disproportion and expenses.
Speaker 2: It doesn't want to do.
Speaker 1: Put all that together, and damn it winnied leadership somewhere,
Speaker 1: and I predict at some point there will be a deal,
Speaker 1: but it's got to be a deal largely involved with
Speaker 1: little or no state money. Because the standalone deal like
Speaker 1: this in Cleveland, it works because you have bonding that
Speaker 1: can be paid out over thirty years and a brand
Speaker 1: new source of sales tax revenue's going to be created
Speaker 1: out of southern Caullahoga County, and you could show that
Speaker 1: the jobs are going to be there, the money's going
Speaker 1: to be spent, the additional income coming from the state
Speaker 1: that doesn't currently exist. Angles can't show that they want
Speaker 1: to remodel a house, not build a brand new one.
Speaker 1: They want to remodel their stadium and they need the
Speaker 1: three hundred million from the state up front. And the
Speaker 1: governor just told you that dog won't hunt. The money's
Speaker 1: not coming from the state. That means the county's got
Speaker 1: to put in more money, or the NFL and the
Speaker 1: Bengals have got to put in more money, a lot
Speaker 1: more money. And you would think if you're worth about
Speaker 1: four or five billion, dollars, which is four to five
Speaker 1: thousand million. You'd have a paltry three hundred million of
Speaker 1: that in order to put into your own stadium for
Speaker 1: the next thirty years. But it doesn't look as if
Speaker 1: the Bengals want to do that either. So here we
Speaker 1: are you and I started this idea back in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five when the sales tax passed without a sunset whatsoever.
Speaker 1: So what happens stay tuned for more in the next
Speaker 1: several weeks now. Secondly, head on James Bogan, criminal defense attorney,
Speaker 1: about two hours ago, and I wanted to know I
Speaker 1: do not actively practice law anymore, criminally or otherwise. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to know what happens in the courthouse, whether
Speaker 1: it was showed Eater's, Melissa Powers or Connie Pillage, if
Speaker 1: you had this kind of a case with a seventeen
Speaker 1: year old and an attempted armed robbery kills in cold
Speaker 1: blood an innocent person, twenty one year old Benjamin Addison
Speaker 1: did everything right in his life, and I think his
Speaker 1: father's comments Joseph Addison in front of the sentencing judge yesterday,
Speaker 1: Judge Alison Hathaway, who spent many years here in the
Speaker 1: newsroom before she went to law school was a just outcome,
Speaker 1: and Bogan related to me it was a just outcome
Speaker 1: in a sense because of a case in the US
Speaker 1: Supreme Court Miller versus Alabama. A juvenile cannot be executed
Speaker 1: and a juvenile cannot be given life without possibility of parole.
Speaker 1: So if the guilty party in this case, Justin Dugan,
Speaker 1: who should spend the rest of his life in prison,
Speaker 1: had pled guilty to murder fifteen to life, he'd be
Speaker 1: eligible for parole and plus the three year TECH because
Speaker 1: of the goes to the gun being used, he'd be
Speaker 1: eligible for parole in eighteen years and maybe serve life,
Speaker 1: which to me would have been justice because I don't
Speaker 1: know when this young man, this kid, this punk, Justin
Speaker 1: Dugan is now eighteen, goes up to the big house.
Speaker 1: I never want to see him get out of jail
Speaker 1: at all. But the law says he can't be sentenced
Speaker 1: to life without possibility, and secondly, he can't get the
Speaker 1: death penalty for what he did. This is a fellow
Speaker 1: new murder. And so according to James Bogan, there was
Speaker 1: a deal deal or in exchange for all the work
Speaker 1: that would have to be done the next several years
Speaker 1: to keep him locked up, that it would be a
Speaker 1: guilty plea. Instead of getting twenty six and a half years,
Speaker 1: which was the sentence for the Offensi's charge, he would
Speaker 1: have got twenty He agreed to a plea in which
Speaker 1: negotiated a sentence was twenty one years, in which you
Speaker 1: must do at least eighteen and a half of the
Speaker 1: twenty one years. Is that enough for the life of Madison?
Speaker 1: Of Benjamin Addison, absolutely not. Should he be locked up
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life? Absolutely Nonetheless, According to
Speaker 1: James Bogan, justice was done in the matter of State
Speaker 1: versus Justin Dugan, the seventeen now eighteen year old. One
Speaker 1: cannot imagine the horror of having a proud young man
Speaker 1: about to graduate from UC to be gunned down in
Speaker 1: the streets in exchange for the theft of a Hyundai.
Speaker 2: Disgusting.
Speaker 1: Same thing happened on Short Vine a couple of nights ago,
Speaker 1: when a fifteen year old strong arm robbery try to
Speaker 1: hold someone up and on the process murders the victim. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's continue with more. I think you never build yourself
Speaker 1: up by tearing other people down. There was nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with Amony County Prosecutor's Office. It had a great reputation
Speaker 1: because of Joe Eaters, Ard Nay, Melissa Powers, and so
Speaker 1: many others. Let's continue with more if the line becomes available.
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Speaker 6: Look, if I didn't want to do this job properly,
Speaker 6: I would never run for office. But I wanted to.
Speaker 6: I wanted to make sure I did everything I could
Speaker 6: to keep us safe while repairing some of the damaged
Speaker 6: reputation of this office. And I think we're on We're
Speaker 6: well on the way to doing that.
Speaker 7: And oh, hello, Bietm Skulls, I'm broadcastings Ron.
Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction.
Speaker 1: Shots fire, Pilla, shots fire, restore the reputation of this office.
Speaker 2: What was the reputation?
Speaker 1: And under Melissa Piers, Joe Eaters, sy Lee's Ard Nay,
Speaker 1: pretty bad.
Speaker 2: I guess huh.
Speaker 9: I thought the opposite. I thought we were looked upon
Speaker 9: here in Cincinnati. Is maybe the last hope the gold
Speaker 9: stand any sort of you know, punishment for crimes and
Speaker 9: upholding of the laws.
Speaker 2: Sag. Didn't you just say off the air? You you?
Speaker 2: You backed up her comments?
Speaker 1: Not exactly, not exactly a little bit off.
Speaker 2: What did the let's say, former prosecutors say about justice Joe.
Speaker 1: I can't say why.
Speaker 2: I can't say who sent this to me? Here we go.
Speaker 1: Let me share with you the comments of a person.
Speaker 1: Maybe Connie Pillage shouldn't give cupcake plea deals to murderers
Speaker 1: that killed kids on their front line of UC.
Speaker 2: Now that's putting the.
Speaker 1: Cheese put the cheese cracker right, Yes, just a little
Speaker 1: bit of I can't say who sent that to me?
Speaker 9: The integrity according to whom, according to the criminals, because
Speaker 9: I'm sure that they're all for it, But.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The person's initials are t o terrell Owens terrell.
Speaker 2: Owens not exactly. No, he's dead.
Speaker 1: Can't say the former twins great, can't say can you
Speaker 1: build yourself up without tearing someone else down?
Speaker 2: It's hard to do anymore. You don't see it much.
Speaker 2: Put it that way.
Speaker 1: Secondly, Caitlin Clark has now given more interviews, and what
Speaker 1: she's saying, she's doubling down on her white privilege.
Speaker 2: God in order to explain.
Speaker 1: Her success she has. She's been a beneficiary of white privilege.
Speaker 2: Would you go to comment very disappointed?
Speaker 9: She thinks by cow telling to these types that they're
Speaker 9: going to accept her, well, she does not know they
Speaker 9: will never accept her. Take a page out of Donald
Speaker 9: Trump's book, and that is fire away. Don't ever bend
Speaker 9: the need to any of your enemies. Don't do it
Speaker 9: because they will never love you back. Wasn't she victimized
Speaker 9: by racism more than the opposite?
Speaker 2: You could make that case.
Speaker 1: When't she hurt by any vigils that wanted her to
Speaker 1: be hurt. She's the face of the league, making them
Speaker 1: millions of dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they.
Speaker 9: I mean, if any sort of conversations should be coming out,
Speaker 9: it should be about how she has saved this league
Speaker 9: that just loses money year after over two decades.
Speaker 1: They grossly increased their expenses by having private flights. That
Speaker 1: was like a twelve million, fifty million dollar item. And
Speaker 1: she came into the league and she raised enough money
Speaker 1: to give all her teammates private flights.
Speaker 9: And they hate her for it. You think they accept
Speaker 9: your apology. I think they just say, you know what,
Speaker 9: we we now that you came out and you said
Speaker 9: that about you. Yeah, we're you're now one of us. No,
Speaker 9: never gonna happen, So don't do it. Fire back at him,
Speaker 9: pung them right back in the mouth.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens now.
Speaker 1: Also segmented, today is a big game because Louis Luis
Speaker 1: Castillo is on the mound for the Mariners. Listen to
Speaker 1: the record they have against the Reds. Rock hasn't even
Speaker 1: aware of this, Will Eve.
Speaker 8: They stood reporters approach service of your local teme Star
Speaker 8: heating in air condition dealers tame star quality you can
Speaker 8: feel in Cincinnati, called the experts at Preferred Home Comfort five, one, three, eight,
Speaker 8: nine to two h V A C.
Speaker 2: Spot on the way.
Speaker 1: I got a text here from Bobby Cash Trucy that says,
Speaker 1: ask Rocky this question, when is the last time sant
Speaker 1: Axe and basketball went undefeated, untied, unscored on.
Speaker 2: It's been a few years.
Speaker 1: Steve Gentry is now going to coach at winthrow but
Speaker 1: he took Deer Park to the Promised Land twenty nine
Speaker 1: and oh you might recall that.
Speaker 2: Have you heard about that?
Speaker 9: I've heard you mentioned it once or twice. Yeah, I
Speaker 9: haven't heard too much about it.
Speaker 1: Graduated about the park twenty eighteen, twenty eight, were still
Speaker 1: talking about this.
Speaker 8: It was happening yesterday. I still have the that's the
Speaker 8: last time we had a career Grand Slam with Tiger.
Speaker 9: About that one Tiger was was still golfing the last
Speaker 9: time Deer Park.
Speaker 2: Don't you ever wear your ring around?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring my Deer Park ring. Would you like
Speaker 1: to see it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Willy Way.
Speaker 8: A slew of roster moves by the Red legs were
Speaker 8: were in.
Speaker 2: Closer. Alexis ds in. What's hamstringer like? Left ham string strain?
Speaker 2: Matt McClean is back.
Speaker 9: It is inexcusable to have a soft tissue injury at
Speaker 9: this point of the season.
Speaker 2: Slight left ham string strain is excusable. Austin Hayes is back.
Speaker 2: What was all with him? Left calf strain? Got calf strings?
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 8: Sent down to Derby City aka Lowell? Right there on
Speaker 8: seventy one, Jacob Hurdibes and Noel V. Marte.
Speaker 2: Didn't show a lot here, but he looks like a
Speaker 2: baseball player. Lineup for tonight.
Speaker 1: Oh, give me the lineup. Give it freed one, McLean Well,
Speaker 1: he get hurt.
Speaker 8: D L C LUs Hayes, the D H Candelario third
Speaker 8: c e s at first, the snake in right, Travine catching.
Speaker 1: So McLean is playing tonight correct? How's his hamstring? How's
Speaker 1: his knuckles activated to be okay? How's his gonads?
Speaker 8: Luis Luis Castillo goes for the Mariners to ninety's one
Speaker 8: and one with a two to twelve VR Nicolodolo two
Speaker 8: and one with a zero point nine to six. But
Speaker 8: but Seattle nineteen to five all time against the Reds
Speaker 8: best winning percentage of seventy nine seven ninety two. That
Speaker 8: is the best percentage win against any single opponent in
Speaker 8: Red's franchise history, might.
Speaker 1: Be in all of baseball history. You lose eighty percent
Speaker 1: of your games. That's not good, Rock, No, that's not good.
Speaker 1: Let's see Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits.
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Speaker 1: held their local pro day inside the Bubble this morning.
Speaker 1: Fourteen players from UC, including guard Luke Candra, but running
Speaker 1: back Corey Kiner was there but did not work out.
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not?
Speaker 8: I don't know Roger Bacon's finest. Thirteen players from Miami
Speaker 8: were there, among other schools.
Speaker 1: What about that rock? He didn't go to Combine, right?
Speaker 1: I think he did. I think him and Candra did. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 2: Check it out. He went to LSU, then somewhere else went.
Speaker 8: To see Let's see what else? Final round of the Masters.
Speaker 8: How about that rock? Threw twelve point seven million viewers
Speaker 8: thirty three percent from a year ago in the most
Speaker 8: watchtons twenty eighteen when deer Park won the title.
Speaker 2: Corey Kinner did go. That's right, he did go the Combine.
Speaker 9: He ran four or five seven, So if he turned
Speaker 9: in good numbers, you don't need to turn any more numbers.
Speaker 1: So you have Corey Kiner. Possibly? Is he related to
Speaker 1: Ralph Connor used to it for the I don't believe pirates.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Not related. Let's see tonight, Willie.
Speaker 8: It's his seventy eighth anniversary of Hall of Famer Jackie
Speaker 8: Robinson's Major League baseball debut and every player tonight will
Speaker 8: wear forty two. You knew who's arded that tradition, Ken
Speaker 8: Griffy Junior.
Speaker 1: He has permission. When he was in Seattle, correct the commissioner,
Speaker 1: Bud Seedlings said go.
Speaker 8: Ahead, and missus Jackie Robinson said right photos, he's taking it.
Speaker 1: The master spectacular, unbelievable, great spectacular.
Speaker 8: That one of course of uh Roy McElroy bent over
Speaker 8: on the ground. He had to get that win an award.
Speaker 8: How do you get that shot? He's got a camera
Speaker 8: that could probably do an X ray of you. He's
Speaker 8: right there, I mean, boom and the arrest of the photo, your.
Speaker 2: Butt from the front.
Speaker 1: A lot of women would love that.
Speaker 2: Women love that. Just think about it. Yeah, I'll think
Speaker 2: about it. He's weird, weird, not me, He's the one
Speaker 2: that brought it up. Well, both of you are we
Speaker 2: Here's some more sports, Give me some more. Let's see. Oh.
Speaker 8: Bearcats safety Ken Willis has entered the transfer portal in
Speaker 8: the final week of spring practice.
Speaker 2: Spring opens up by tomorrow. I'm leaving tomorrow. Second U
Speaker 2: SE defensive player to leave the portal in a week.
Speaker 1: According to one expert, I E. Ken Brew Xavier is
Speaker 1: number ten and available at nil money.
Speaker 2: In college basketball?
Speaker 1: College basketball, and they're signing players left and right.
Speaker 2: Who's given the dough the ray and to me to
Speaker 2: Victory Parkway.
Speaker 1: Can't say, I can't say BK. Can't say how about
Speaker 1: how about t Orell Owens again? Let me go text
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens, w.
Speaker 2: Is w C put any dough.
Speaker 1: Can't say into the coffer, can't say, can't say your school, can't.
Speaker 2: Say many schools.
Speaker 1: I have Deer Park, many schools, law schools.
Speaker 2: I got many schools. What's all?
Speaker 1: What's on the big show today? They've always changed the subject.
Speaker 1: When we tried to nail you in.
Speaker 9: The corner, nail me, yes, hurt me, No, got a
Speaker 9: dan monk right out of gate talking about the stadium.
Speaker 9: Now you talk to the governor, what's he say? I
Speaker 9: know you had Adam bird on and he doesn't seem
Speaker 9: like to be too keen on.
Speaker 1: The governor says, we need to increase the tax or
Speaker 1: fee paid by sports gaming companies from twenty to forty percent.
Speaker 1: That would raise about one hundred and fifty million divided
Speaker 1: among guess what, the Cleveland Browns, the Cleveland Indians, the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Guardians, Guardians the Cincinnati Bengals. Throw on top of
Speaker 1: that a couple of minor league teams FC Cincinnati at all,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, let slice and dice that one fifty.
Speaker 2: Don't recognize it to me. The crux of the whole
Speaker 2: issue is this, the.
Speaker 9: Bengals don't own the stadium, but they're allowed to determine
Speaker 9: who plays in it and when they play there. That
Speaker 9: doesn't make any sense if a county, if a county
Speaker 9: owns the stadium, they can't use the stadium.
Speaker 2: When they want to. How does that work?
Speaker 1: And the other thing just another scenario in life, and
Speaker 1: that another scenario segment. That's how they that's how they
Speaker 1: that's how they roll rock. I mean, if you own
Speaker 1: you own your house. I don't own your house.
Speaker 9: But if you owned your house, but I determined somebody could,
Speaker 9: I could rent your house out for you, how.
Speaker 2: Would you feel about that segment? The wait a minute, now,
Speaker 2: I own the house. Angles are smart, very smart they are.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: None of this is going to fly with the Republicans
Speaker 1: and the and the other thing is he wants to
Speaker 1: double the marijuana take from the state, which will drive
Speaker 1: already super high millions of dollars to the dark market.
Speaker 1: You know, drug dealers have lost a billion dollars in Ohio.
Speaker 2: They don't have Imagine if.
Speaker 1: You're in the drug dealing business and someone takes away
Speaker 1: a billion dollars, don't you want to say, we want
Speaker 1: that money back. So the governor wants to double the
Speaker 1: sin taxes, and the lawmakers were saying that we're not
Speaker 1: going to do that, but.
Speaker 9: It reaches a certain point where people turn to the
Speaker 9: the darkest street market given money. Yeah, and right now
Speaker 9: there's no you're not de incentivized because it's it's illegal,
Speaker 9: and no one cares anymore.
Speaker 2: No, they don't care. Cops aren't going to wrest, No, no
Speaker 2: one's gonna ast you for having any pot or something.
Speaker 1: What all this mean, Rock, Well, where else are you
Speaker 1: going to get the money? Well, he says he's got
Speaker 1: a plan. The House has a plan, the Senate's got
Speaker 1: a plan. We need a plan. Not many plans right now.
Speaker 9: Same thing for gambling, right if you raise that tax up,
Speaker 9: then people go to the black market for that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, down to a vote, do you Well,
Speaker 1: if it votes, then that the whole thing's going down.
Speaker 1: Every schleips and Monfoot Heights aren't going to vote to
Speaker 1: tax themselves more that they can't afford.
Speaker 2: To go to the games.
Speaker 9: Already done that once the Kansas City Chiefs, off of
Speaker 9: two Super Bowls, couldn't get a stadium deal. Pat now
Speaker 9: were the Chiefs in Kansas City. They're like the most
Speaker 9: popular teams worldwide got crushed. So what do you do?
Speaker 2: Don't know, can't say, can't say.
Speaker 1: I know one thing. The Bengals are going to stay
Speaker 1: for two years. That's going to yarinate off the East
Speaker 1: Treehouse who said that's a negative because we're bleeding money.
Speaker 1: We got to we need a new deal, a deal deal.
Speaker 2: Maybe the guys are Republican.
Speaker 1: He's a republic and this republic is everywhere. But they
Speaker 1: don't want to increase taxes. They've all problems on a Bible.
Speaker 1: We're not going to increase taxes. Isn't doubling the take
Speaker 1: out of the sin in that calling the feed that's
Speaker 1: a fee, not a tax.
Speaker 2: It's a fee. It's a fee, and it's a sin tax.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit better. That's good. You're raising taxes,
Speaker 2: but in a more wholesome way. I don't know. You're
Speaker 2: keeping the degenerates from gambling.
Speaker 1: T O sends me a carved job on Connie pillage.
Speaker 1: Can't say who it was. I can't say God, restore
Speaker 1: integrity rock, okaypecially.
Speaker 2: Especially on this show. You saw they weren't talking about
Speaker 2: this show.
Speaker 9: And we don't get a statement from let's say, the
Speaker 9: former prosecutor.
Speaker 1: Who's now a Supreme Court justice. Do you want to
Speaker 1: piss off the.
Speaker 2: Fort here for though? Let's go so, I.
Speaker 1: Haven't spoken to Joe directly at length, spoken to Joe
Speaker 1: directly at length?
Speaker 2: Is that to say? Not happy?
Speaker 6: But I wanted to I wanted to make sure I
Speaker 6: did everything I could to keep us safe while repairing
Speaker 6: some of the damaged reputation.
Speaker 2: Of this office. And where did you make that comment? Here?
Speaker 4: Was?
Speaker 2: Okay? You want to rock your reaction? Did Scott Sloan
Speaker 2: clop back at all? Don't know?
Speaker 1: I can't say it's interesting wow and gets jammed up
Speaker 1: in something bad. It does happen, but by and large,
Speaker 1: almost always it's the officers correct and how they handle
Speaker 1: the situation. Unfortunately, Uh, it makes more news when it's fatal.
Speaker 2: What that mean?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 6: Sure, and thank you so much for for the feedback. Look,
Speaker 6: if I didn't want to do this job properly. I
Speaker 6: would never run for office.
Speaker 2: Your reaction rock.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm not a much you like, you know,
Speaker 9: like mixing everything up and then standing back in a
Speaker 9: very safe place.
Speaker 8: So at twelve oh five, I guess tomorrow, at twelve
Speaker 8: oh five, you'll have a very special guests straw On
Speaker 8: from Columbus.
Speaker 1: Say she's a Democrat, she's gonna let the feral kids
Speaker 1: run the street and ruin your life. But so far,
Speaker 1: I think you know, as someone who leans to the right,
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with the integrity there, especially when it came
Speaker 1: to the cop shootings and you stood behind police officers
Speaker 1: as warranted, not saying in the future we won't catch
Speaker 1: a case where a cop does something they shouldn't be
Speaker 1: doing and gets jammed up in something bad. It does happen,
Speaker 1: but by and large, almost always it's the officers correct
Speaker 1: and how they handle the situation. Unfortunately, Uh, it makes
Speaker 1: more news when it's fatal. About three oh five, I'll
Speaker 1: be holding the phone about two feet from my ear. Joe,
Speaker 1: how you doing? That'll be the last thing for twenty minutes, Joe,
Speaker 1: hold on, Joe, then Melissa Power. Maybe so if he
Speaker 1: wants to come on the Eddy and Rocky show. Statement,
Speaker 1: it's all yours. Go get him. I say, go get Melissa,
Speaker 1: Joe that dump but work normally, it doesn't as you.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, say don't bring that up.
Speaker 1: Sorry, don't bring that up. But I'm just saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're just saying, put Joe on, put Melissa on.
Speaker 2: It's up to you.
Speaker 1: Rock you get him, We'll see what I can do.
Speaker 1: All right, Rock anything that's on the big show today.
Speaker 2: I so got Dan monkraight at the gate.
Speaker 9: We have a financial guy come up at four o'clock
Speaker 9: talk about the markets and tariffs in the economy.
Speaker 2: And more and more and more.
Speaker 1: Seg, thank you give me out of the stuge report,
Speaker 1: restoring integrity to our stooge report.
Speaker 8: Will he get out of the red legs up against
Speaker 8: the Mariners tonight and looking for another sweep, get out
Speaker 8: the broom.
Speaker 2: And finally a prosecutor's office that has integrity. We leave
Speaker 2: you with the imbortal words of the Stood report. I'm
Speaker 2: tired of hearing this. I would expect prosecutors to act
Speaker 2: like prosecutors.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad comment from Justice Joe. Right there,
Speaker 1: a man who shot harambe in the head. We gotta go,
Speaker 1: Thank you, gotta go. Seven hundred w ls ringing already,