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All Right, So a couple of random stories 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,039 that do kind of connect to the end of the 11 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:38,280 last hours talking about Mayor zoron Mom Donnie the Commie 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:47,399 and his new tenants advocate, who's a communist who talks 13 00:00:47,439 --> 00:00:55,119 about you know, people have to reimagine homeownership. It's a 14 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:58,560 form of white supremacy and blah blah blah. So basically 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,000 going to try to steal everybody's proper in New York City. 16 00:01:01,719 --> 00:01:04,959 You know, landlords are going to be forced to deal 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,680 with frivolous complaints from the communist activists that you know, 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,959 get try to get them to make all these repairs. Meanwhile, 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,439 there's a rent freeze. Landlords can't afford to make the repairs. 20 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:17,359 So the city comes in and makes the repairs bills 21 00:01:17,359 --> 00:01:20,000 the landlord, landlord can't pay it, then they seize the property. 22 00:01:20,239 --> 00:01:23,239 So that's the that's the strategy going forward in New 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,920 York City. I'm sure it'll work out great for them. 24 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:32,120 And this is this is a particularly potent argument for 25 00:01:33,079 --> 00:01:37,040 young people who have been blackpilled into thinking that all 26 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:39,079 is lost. They will never be able to have the 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,000 American dream, they will never be able to afford a home, 28 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:44,840 they will never be able to fill in the blank right, 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,760 And this is a demoralization message that is promoted to 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,159 young people both on the left and on the right politically. 31 00:01:55,239 --> 00:02:00,840 And then the message of communism becomes more active because 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,079 now if you think you can't have these things, you're 33 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:09,080 going to want to take them from other people. So 34 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:13,000 first the lie is that you can't ever afford those things, 35 00:02:13,439 --> 00:02:17,599 and then the action based on the lie is you 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,560 will now either support or look the other way when 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,759 guys like mom Donnie go and start seizing property of 38 00:02:26,159 --> 00:02:30,199 quote rich white people in New York City. And well, 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,080 I mean to her credit, ce A Weaver, the communist 40 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:36,240 in charge of tenant, writes, she did say that yes, 41 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:41,080 even some pocs that's people of color, okay, which you 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,360 don't need a plural s at the end of pocs. 43 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,960 That would be people of colors, right anyway, So against 44 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,280 this backdrop I was interested to read there was a 45 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:06,199 published paper. This was in Nature, the magazine. The headline 46 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,520 on the study is no meta analytical effect of economic 47 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,879 inequality on well being or mental health? All right, So 48 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:21,560 a meta analysis this is when like you've got in 49 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:24,560 this case, there were one hundred and sixty eight studies, 50 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:29,800 okay that looked at economic inequality and the impact of 51 00:03:30,039 --> 00:03:35,400 economic inequality on people's mental health. The idea being that 52 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:39,439 our mental health suffers as a society when we have 53 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:45,120 greater gaps between the rich and the poor, right, greater 54 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,759 the income inequality, the greater the mental health crisis. That 55 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:52,520 was the idea. One hundred and sixty eight different studies, 56 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,840 And a meta analysis takes the one hundred and sixty 57 00:03:55,879 --> 00:04:01,840 eight studies and it analyzes them all together. So it's 58 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:05,680 not doing a peer review of the individual studies. It's 59 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:09,639 basically taking all of them together and saying, Okay, what 60 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:12,240 do we learn from this body of one hundred and 61 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:19,000 sixty eight studies. These studies covered eleven million people, and 62 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:25,319 it found no reliable link, no reliable link between economic 63 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:31,879 inequality and well being, or between economic inequality or mental health. 64 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,839 In other words, living in a place that has large 65 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,040 gaps between the rich and the poor does not affect 66 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,480 these mental health or well being outcomes. There is no 67 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:51,600 effect which obliterates this, like this idea that's been running 68 00:04:51,639 --> 00:04:54,800 around for well, the ideas don't run around well unless 69 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,519 they're Antifa. But no, they this idea that's been out 70 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,959 there for the last five years or so that oh, 71 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,079 my gosh, income inequality. It's terrible, it's terrible. We shouldn't have, 72 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,199 you know, somebody who's you know, a million times richer 73 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,160 than the poorest person in the society. We need to 74 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:14,079 close the income inequality gap. We need to close that 75 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,680 gap mainly by taking money from the wealthier segments, right, 76 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:21,879 and then that will make people mentally healthier, that'll make 77 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:27,199 them happier. But the meta analysis does not bear that out. 78 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:32,519 Exposure to economic inequality is widely thought to erode subjective 79 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,199 well being and mental health, which carries important societal implications. 80 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Contrary to popular narratives, random effects models showed that individuals 81 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,519 in more unequal areas do not report lower subjective well being. Moreover, 82 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:53,399 machine learning analyzes indicates that the association with well being 83 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,279 was negative in high inflation contexts but positive in low 84 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:03,519 inflation context Is that mean means that when you have 85 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,680 high inflation, that's actually the driver. It's the high inflation, 86 00:06:07,879 --> 00:06:11,120 it's the inability to keep up with the cost of 87 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,959 goods and services that are increasing higher than your wages. 88 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:23,399 And inflation is caused by government the printing of the money, right, 89 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,439 all of the COVID relief, all the PPP and the 90 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,439 ARPA funds, all of the money that got I called 91 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,800 it helicopter cash. It's just, you know, like if you 92 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,720 were to just load up helicopters filled with government printed 93 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:37,079 cash and you just start pushing it out the side, 94 00:06:37,399 --> 00:06:40,879 dumping money on everybody. Like that's what we did for 95 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:45,639 the better part of two years, and it created massive inflation, 96 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:50,040 and that's the driver. These findings challenge the view that 97 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,639 economic inequality universally harms psychological health and can inform public 98 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:59,439 health policy. So there's that. Here's another one that a 99 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,160 lot of people, and even at one point Milton Friedman 100 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,560 was supportive of this idea of a universal basic income 101 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,240 or a UBI. It's not a medical condition. People. You 102 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:19,399 be I, like you b I Universal basic income. The 103 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:24,199 results from the largest universal basic income study in America. 104 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:28,920 The results are in and they're not good if you 105 00:07:28,959 --> 00:07:31,240 are a UBI fan. And this was an idea that 106 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:33,120 I thought had some promise too. But see, here's the 107 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,040 trade off is that if you're going to do a UBI, 108 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,560 then you got to get rid of the welfare state. 109 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,600 That's the trade off. And people won't get rid of 110 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,439 the They're not going to get rid of the welfare state. 111 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,040 People will not abandon all of these programs because their 112 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,319 jobs programs in a lot of cases, right, they're they're 113 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,759 providing middle class income for people to administrate the jobs. 114 00:07:55,079 --> 00:07:58,720 And so you have a built in constituency of government employees, 115 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,120 people who are maybe getting grants through NGOs and stuff. 116 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:06,560 So there's a massive constituency, a cottage industry built up 117 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,959 around this spending, and so they won't get rid of it. 118 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 That was the whole point of the Earned income tax credit, 119 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,959 right with Ronald Reagan. That was the point was to 120 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,160 dismantle the welfare state and give people a direct lump 121 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,000 sum payment. And what happened was they never got rid 122 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,639 of the welfare state, and so then we ended up 123 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,800 with the Earned Income Tax Credit in addition to the 124 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,600 welfare state. And that's when Friedman was like, Okay, this 125 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:31,759 doesn't work because nobody will dismantle the welfare state in 126 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:37,480 exchange for just a lump sum payment the policy directly 127 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:42,480 to the people, rather than washing it through bureaucracy. What 128 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:50,279 the study found income dropped, labor productivity declined, the time 129 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:56,759 people spent unemployed rose, time spent on childcare, and self 130 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,879 improvement did not change. The policy is just as the 131 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,919 name implies. This is written by pat Ryan Over at 132 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,840 the Carolina Partnership for Reform North Carolina CPRNC dot org. 133 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,600 The policy is just as the name implies. Every single 134 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,039 adult receives an unconditional check every month, no strings attached. 135 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,440 There's no single cash transfer figure that UBI proponents have 136 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,279 settled on as an ideal number, but discussion generally ranges 137 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,279 from fifty dollars a month to one thousand dollars a month. 138 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:32,559 It's described as an anti poverty measure, but the Stanford 139 00:09:32,639 --> 00:09:37,039 University reports one hundred and fifty five active or concluded 140 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:41,000 UBI experiments in the United States alone, and when they 141 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,559 did a meta analysis of all of them. The largest 142 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:48,480 randomized control trial finished up last year and it was 143 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:51,759 massive and the results do not look promising. 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They 159 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:47,360 are your life told through the eyes of everyone around 160 00:10:47,399 --> 00:10:49,639 you and all who came before you, and they will 161 00:10:49,639 --> 00:10:53,039 tell others to come who you are visit Creative video 162 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:59,440 dot com. So the largest ever randomized controlled trial of 163 00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:04,039 Universe Basic income or UBI in the United States wrapped 164 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,759 up last year. The study involved three thousand participants. One 165 00:11:08,799 --> 00:11:11,799 thousand low income individuals got one thousand dollars a month 166 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:16,120 for three years. Two thousand others in the control group 167 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:21,519 got fifty dollars per month. Researchers from UC Berkeley, University 168 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,879 of Michigan, University of Toronto, and University of Illinois examined 169 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,440 the impacts across dozens of metrics, and the results do 170 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:37,200 not look promising the one thousand dollars per month group. Okay, 171 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,200 so the group that was making the low income individuals 172 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,519 that got one thousand dollars a month for three years, 173 00:11:44,919 --> 00:11:51,559 they worked less and earned less than the control group 174 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,279 of two thousand people that got fifty bucks a month. 175 00:11:55,399 --> 00:12:00,240 In fact, for every one dollar in UBI benefit, it's 176 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:07,120 total income fell by twenty one cents. Meanwhile, the treatment 177 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,759 group did not improve their education, They did not improve 178 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:16,919 their job training in any meaningful way that was different 179 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,399 than the control group. So there was no impact. So 180 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,720 like this idea that well, if you just gave people, 181 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:26,080 you know, one thousand dollars a month. Then they would 182 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,440 use the free time and the extra money that would 183 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,559 offset their expenses. It would free them up to pursue, 184 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:36,600 you know, a higher degree or something. They go back 185 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,039 to school, they would learn a new craft or trade 186 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,399 or skill or something right, they would be they would 187 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,120 devote their energies to something productive. And that did not 188 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,559 happen in any way that was different than the group 189 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,120 that just got fifty bucks a month. So how did 190 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:59,639 those in the treatment group spend their extra time leisure activities? 191 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:02,759 I'm as shocked as you are. Who gonna have seen 192 00:13:02,799 --> 00:13:05,600 that coming. You're gonna give me one thousand dollars a month. 193 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,720 Now I don't have to work as much, and so 194 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,799 now I'm gonna do stuff that I want to do 195 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,799 with my free time. I'm not going to use it 196 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,960 for self improvement because I'm I've got a I got 197 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,679 a pad, I got a bit of a hammock. You know, 198 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:25,600 my safety net is more like a hammock. The transfer 199 00:13:25,759 --> 00:13:30,320 group caused total individual income to fall by about fifteen 200 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:35,320 hundred dollars a year relative to the control group. So 201 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,080 when you give people the thousand dollars, they actually work 202 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:43,039 less and they make they make less money, so giving 203 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:45,960 them the thousand dollars doesn't help them. In fact, the 204 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:53,039 net impact is a negative. They lose money. The program 205 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,559 resulted in a two percentage point decrease in labor market 206 00:13:57,759 --> 00:14:02,639 participation for participants and somewhere between one point three to 207 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,000 one point four hours per week reduction in labor hours, 208 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:11,080 so they took time off, they didn't go to work. 209 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,639 Participants' partners also reduced their hours worked by a comparable amount, 210 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:22,399 so there's a household impact that's negative as well. We 211 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:27,240 also saw significant impacts on duration of unemployment over the 212 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,960 three years of the transfers. The duration of the average 213 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,440 spell of non employment in the control group was seven 214 00:14:34,519 --> 00:14:39,440 point seven months. The treatment the group that got a 215 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:45,320 thousand a month, they were unemployed for an additional one 216 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,799 point one month on top of the seven point seven 217 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,559 So the low income group that got the fifty dollars 218 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:56,159 a month in the transfers, they were unemployed for more 219 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,440 than half a year. And when you give people one 220 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,039 thousand dollars a month, they're unemployed now for almost three 221 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,120 quarters of the year. The working paper that was published 222 00:15:08,159 --> 00:15:13,679 at the NBER we provide new evidence on the causal 223 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:19,360 effect of unearned income on consumption, balance sheets, and financial outcomes. 224 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:23,240 By exploiting an experiment that randomly assigned one thousand individuals 225 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:25,320 to receive one thousand dollars a month and two thousand 226 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,720 individuals that got fifty dollars a month for three years, 227 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,600 the transfer increased measured household expenditures by at least three 228 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,279 hundred dollars per month. The spending impact is positive in 229 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,559 most categories and is largest for housing, food, and car expenses. 230 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,639 The treatment increases housing unit and neighborhood mobility, so people 231 00:15:45,679 --> 00:15:48,559 were able to move. They were right. They spent one 232 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:50,639 thousand dollars. They put it towards rent, they put it 233 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:57,000 towards car payment, they put it towards food. We find 234 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:03,840 noisily estimated modest positive effects on asset values driven by 235 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:09,240 financial assets, but these gains are offset by higher debt, 236 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,799 resulting in a near zero effect on net worth. The 237 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,799 transfer increased self reported financial health and credit scores, but 238 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:25,879 did not affect credit limits, delinquencies, utilization, bankruptcies, or foreclosures. 239 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,159 These results suggest that large temporary transfers increase short term 240 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:38,559 consumption and improve financial health, but may not cause persistent improvements. 241 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:43,360 In the financial position of young, low income households. In 242 00:16:43,399 --> 00:16:47,799 other words, the thousand dollars a month transfers had no 243 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,200 effect on net worth or credit access. All the money 244 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:58,679 was plowed into consumption, and recipients of the thousand dollars 245 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:05,519 actually went more into debt. So I think the science 246 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,599 is settled on that. Shall we say? 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This is the 268 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,319 time of year that a lot of people try to 269 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,720 hit a reset of sorts, adopt new habits, discard existing ones, 270 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:22,480 and the biggest New Year's resolution every year in America 271 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:25,799 is usually like lose weight, get healthy right and for 272 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,880 you know a lot of people listening to the show, 273 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,720 you will know that I got on the PhD Weight 274 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:32,759 Loss program about four years ago. I lost ninety pounds 275 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:35,720 on the program. Full disclosure, I am a paid endorser 276 00:18:35,759 --> 00:18:38,519 of the program, but I do believe in the system 277 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:41,519 because it's the only one that has given me the 278 00:18:41,559 --> 00:18:44,720 long term results that I've had after a lifetime of 279 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:49,400 battling weight gain and failed diets. So with the new year, 280 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,519 I wanted to chat with the founder of PhD Weight 281 00:18:51,599 --> 00:18:54,799 Loss and nutrition doctor Ashley Lucas to discuss some strategies 282 00:18:54,839 --> 00:18:57,480 and tips and information that could help you maybe be 283 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:00,480 successful in your New Year's resolution dot com or Ashley 284 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:03,200 Lucas Welcome. How are you doing? Hi Pete? 285 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: I'm great, how are you doing? Happy New Year? 286 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: Yes to you as well. Did you have a good 287 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,720 holiday season a lot of family, friends and good times? 288 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah it was great. How about you? 289 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,759 Speaker 1: Yeah it was good. Well I got sick for Christmas, 290 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,599 so yeah, that's I got whatever that crud was going 291 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,960 around that flew like whatever it was. So but anyway, 292 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:26,680 so let me ask you in general in general, do 293 00:19:26,759 --> 00:19:30,119 you do like the New Year's resolutions thing or like 294 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,440 in your experience? Are people generally successful in adopting new diets, 295 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:39,759 new habits, workout regimens when they do it as part 296 00:19:39,759 --> 00:19:41,359 of a resolution for the new year. 297 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think it depends upon their method and how 298 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,680 they go about it. I think, you know, any time 299 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,279 of year we can make a resolution to ourselves to 300 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:55,200 create some positive change. I believe if we do it 301 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:57,920 on our own, there is a very high risk of 302 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,319 failure because accountability and support is key when creating some 303 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,079 kind of big change in our lives. It could be anything. 304 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,359 It doesn't have to be diet or weight related, So 305 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,920 it doesn't matter what time of year that we you know, 306 00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:16,599 change our mind to change our life, and if it 307 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,839 is the new year, so be it. Just making sure 308 00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:23,839 that we go about it with a plan, with accountability, 309 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,599 with support, and then yeah, I definitely think that that 310 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,519 can be successful. 311 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. The accountability component was essential for me because I 312 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,279 had done different diets over the years and none of 313 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:36,279 them ever took hold for a long term. I would 314 00:20:36,319 --> 00:20:37,759 lose some weight, but then I would put it back 315 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:41,000 on and then put on more. Yeah, because it was like, 316 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,240 oh and there was like a reward system in my brain. 317 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,079 It was like, oh, well I did this good thing. 318 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,680 Now I'll reward myself by you know, doing a bunch 319 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,200 of bad things. And so yeah, the accountability is key. 320 00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:55,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just chatting with a client actually up 321 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,359 in Lake Norman, and she had dropped forty five pounds 322 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,839 and it was the first time she had seen under 323 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,359 two hundred pounds. She's like, it is time to celebrate, 324 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,440 and I said, yeah, for sure, it's time to celebrate. 325 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:09,599 What are you going to do? And she said, well, 326 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,440 I think I'm going to saw some of this Tomento 327 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,000 cheese dip that I've had in the freezer for such 328 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,079 a long time and enjoy that and I was like, 329 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,839 you know what, First of all, some pimento cheese dip 330 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,880 can be on your plan. However, what if we change 331 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,480 the mindset and reframe the way we celebrate, Right, So 332 00:21:28,519 --> 00:21:31,240 it's just like those little things. Why are we celebrating 333 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,559 fat loss with consuming more food instead of how could 334 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:38,000 you really serve yourself? What could you do in a 335 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:41,559 way that actually supports your body and nourishes it in 336 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:44,799 the way that it deserves and desires. Maybe that's a massage, 337 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,039 Maybe that's a new piece of clothing, Maybe it's a 338 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:51,839 new magazine or going somewhere and experiencing something. You know, 339 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,720 So it does. It takes that accountability and support and 340 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,400 mindset shift and someone there to remind you or kind 341 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,240 of catch you when those old habits creep back again, 342 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,480 because they do for all of us. 343 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: Right, So the changing of the habits is difficult. That's 344 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,359 one of the pitfalls. What are some other pitfalls that 345 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,200 people run into besides I guess the lack of accountability 346 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,920 when they're trying to make these types of changes, particularly 347 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,119 with regard to their diet. 348 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're always told and it continued to 349 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,799 be inundated with the message that we just need to 350 00:22:24,839 --> 00:22:28,160 eat less and move more. Right, the concept around these 351 00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:31,079 very popular drugs are still that we just need to 352 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,119 eat less, and these drugs reduce appetite, so we end 353 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,480 up eating fewer calories and then the scale starts to 354 00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:40,680 move down. But the body is so much more complicated 355 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,759 than calories in and calories out. The food that we 356 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,680 eat tell our body what to do with the food. 357 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,480 So it's either going to tell the body to store 358 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,400 fat or to burn fat. And I don't think people 359 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,559 realize that that all calories are not the same. Just 360 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:02,960 being an calorie deficit isn't the answer. I mean for you, Pete, 361 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,200 Like we never talked about calories, did we. Did you 362 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,720 ever have to count anything? 363 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,319 Speaker 1: No? Yeah, there's no calorie counting. And I tried that 364 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,200 method several years I guess probably about seven years ago, 365 00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:14,640 and no, it made no difference. 366 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like exercise too, were you surprised that you 367 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,319 didn't have to, like go to the gym and get 368 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,920 on the elliptical machine every day? 369 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: I'm never surprised when I don't have to go to 370 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,680 the gym. So no, and look, you know, and you 371 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,319 guys talk about this. Also, walking is good for other reasons, 372 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,440 particularly in weight loss moves the lymphatic system around that 373 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,319 helps with the weight loss. Walking is good. But yeah, no, 374 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,799 people ask me, oh, did you work out? I never 375 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,160 worked out during the entire fat burn phase at once. Yeah, 376 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:47,920 that never. 377 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not saying that a sedentary life is healthy, 378 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,079 getting up and moving your body, going for a walk 379 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,960 if you can. If you're listening to this and you 380 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,599 can't do that right now, that's okay. We have so 381 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:03,480 many people get started who are just in so much pain, 382 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,400 cannot move, so inflamed. And the focus of us is 383 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:12,119 your metabolism and reducing inflammation. And when we can reduce inflammation, 384 00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:15,839 we can heal your metabolism. When we can reduce inflammation, 385 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,119 you will see that you could reverse type two diabetes 386 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,880 or pre diabetes, high blood pressure, sleep apnea, like all 387 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,240 of these quote unquote chronic progressive diseases don't have to 388 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:28,519 be that way. When you eat in a way that 389 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:33,599 supports reducing inflammation, these things can go away or drastically improve, 390 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,759 And weight loss is just a really fun byproduct of that. 391 00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:41,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a reduction in my blood pressure meds 392 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,920 and completely off of the was it the I can't 393 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,240 even remember the name of it now. I was on 394 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:53,799 it for years, the heartburn medicine. The next sim A, Yeah, prilosec. 395 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,079 That was it. Yeah, completely off of that, never had 396 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,279 I've not had any problems with it since I lost 397 00:24:58,279 --> 00:24:58,559 the weight. 398 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: And I was watching I remember that surprising you. 399 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: Yes, it was because and apparently I guess it was 400 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,920 my stomach pushing against my sternum or something. I don't know, 401 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,559 but I was watching one of your videos people can 402 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,519 check out her YouTube channel Doctor Ashley Show on YouTube, 403 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,119 and you were talking about exercises not a key component 404 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,680 of weight loss. And I hear this a lot from 405 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,559 people also think, oh, I'm going to you know, I'm 406 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:23,839 going to go to the gym, and that's going to 407 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,279 drive the weight loss. And I always tell them, like, 408 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,119 you're going to be Yes, you're going to be working 409 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,720 out and that's good, but like you realize you're going 410 00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:33,799 to need more more caloric intake. You're going to then 411 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,440 your body's going to want more food because you're you're 412 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,880 expending a lot of calories and now you're going to 413 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,000 have this desire to eat more. It's going to be difficult. 414 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:45,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think an interesting way to think 415 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:49,000 about this is let's say you got this feast coming 416 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,440 up or a celebration, let's say Christmas dinner, and you think, 417 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,680 oh my gosh, well, I'm not hungry. I want to 418 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,799 be hungry for this meal. I want to enjoy it. 419 00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:59,480 What could I do to induce hunger? Well, what would 420 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,880 you do? Eat less throughout the day or maybe skip 421 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,359 all the meals, which, by the way, is not a 422 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,960 good tactic, but you would you wouldn't eat, and then 423 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,200 you'd like go for a run or go work out 424 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,640 and try to increase your appetite. That's exactly what it does. 425 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,680 So again, I'm not saying that you shouldn't move, and 426 00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:17,880 there are specific types of movement that are going to 427 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,720 be more supportive of fat loss. And I actually have 428 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:24,160 this episode on the YouTube channel, so definitely check it out. 429 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,000 I think it's called something like why Cardios Keeping You fat? 430 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,359 But it is a huge appetite stimulator and it's so 431 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:34,039 easy to overeat what we have expended in the gym, 432 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,720 So you know, I more so look at exercise and 433 00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:40,720 specific forms of exercise as a wellness tool, not a 434 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:41,680 weight loss tool. 435 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: All right, So I heard you mention some pharmaceuticals. Let's 436 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,440 talk about the drugs. People may be thinking, well, you 437 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,680 know what, I'll get on the shots and that's going 438 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,759 to solve the problem for me. So what you're thinking 439 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,839 on these these GLP one. 440 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: Drugs, Yeah, I mean I may open the door to 441 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,039 a lot of other problems, especially if not done right. 442 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,119 So the majority of people utilizing these medications do not 443 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,000 have any kind of shift in their dietary approach. They 444 00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:14,319 simply are not hungry, so they're eating less. I was 445 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,240 just on a ski trip and the ski and Trust 446 00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:19,079 instructor had dropped some weight using these drugs, and he's like, 447 00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:22,400 I still eat pizza, I still eat these cookies. I 448 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,240 have no idea what's going to happen when I get 449 00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:27,039 off these drugs, he said, because I haven't learned anything. 450 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,839 And so luckily for him, he was sitting next to 451 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:32,880 me and I was able to give him some education. 452 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,880 So I hope it helped. But most people are dropping weight, 453 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,599 and the majority of it is muscle mass. We know 454 00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:43,799 that muscle mass is so important. It is the predictor 455 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,519 of metabolic health. It's actually the marker for longevity. The 456 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:50,519 more and the more healthier muscle mass that you have, 457 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,680 the longer you will live and the quality of your 458 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,920 life will be so much stronger. Unfortunately, about thirty percent 459 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,000 of the weight loss for most people utilizing these drugs 460 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,240 comes from muscle, and then the majority of people don't 461 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,400 like the side effects or the cost. They don't want 462 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,599 to be on these drugs forever, which you have to 463 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:09,880 be to keep the weight off, so they get off 464 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,880 of these drugs within one to two years, and the 465 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,880 majority of people regain at least seventy percent of the 466 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,039 fat weight within a year of getting off the drugs, 467 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,960 and so they end up actually fatter than they were 468 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,960 to begin with because they lost muscle, they put back 469 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,519 on fat weight in its place, and they're metabolically worse off. 470 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,880 So you just have to be super super careful and aware, 471 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:36,559 and still you'd have to shift the way that you're 472 00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:40,799 eating and the mindset underneath it. So unfortunately there's just 473 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,680 no shortcut. 474 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,319 Speaker 1: Well, but people can, they can learn this stuff. I did. 475 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,079 I learned it with PhD in the program that you designed. 476 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:52,319 And so I've said this before, I greatly appreciate all 477 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,759 that you've done for me in my life to help 478 00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:59,680 me get healthy. Highly recommend people check out Doctor Ashley 479 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,400 on YouTube. There's actually the episode I was watching Exact 480 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,079 Meal Plan for Women who want to lose twenty pounds, 481 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,799 and you just spell out the whole meal plan for 482 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,440 people if they want to lose twenty pounds, here's the 483 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,599 healthy way to do it. And there's a lot of 484 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,759 key instructions that are in there. Is there anything else 485 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:18,519 that you would like to add you think is important 486 00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:21,279 or interesting here before we let you go? Mm? 487 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: You know, if we're looking at food, I would say 488 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,359 that really focusing on your first meal of the day, 489 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,599 it doesn't matter what time of day it is, but 490 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,400 making sure that it's got protein in there and you're 491 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,440 better off. It's easier to think about if you go 492 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,440 savory rather than sweet. So if you're listening to this 493 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,279 and you're consuming say cornflakes or some kind of breakfast 494 00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,039 cereal with a banana and some skim milk, it's one 495 00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,119 of the worst breakfasts for you. And I know a 496 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:49,920 lot of people will be like, oh my gosh, I 497 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,599 don't think I like this Doctor Ashley lady, because I 498 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,119 love my cereal. But I'm sharing this with you from 499 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,400 the bottom of our heart because I really, really my 500 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:02,720 purpose to empower people to create positive change. I know this, 501 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,680 and we can create this biggest change by shifting up 502 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,759 what we're eating for breakfast. So thank more savory over 503 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,079 suite protein first whenever you can, and just with that 504 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,119 you'll see an improvement in your health. If you're not 505 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,759 already doing that, all. 506 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,599 Speaker 1: Right, you could check out her YouTube show, Doctor Ashley's 507 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:22,880 Show on YouTube, also the website Myphdweight loss dot com. 508 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,279 Doctor Ashley Lucas, thanks so much and all the best 509 00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:28,359 in twenty twenty six. Thank you, same to you, all right, 510 00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:31,920 take care. That's doctor Ashley Lucas. All right. Holiday football 511 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,240 has arrived right With Draft Kings sportsbook and official sports 512 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240 betting partner of the NFL, the unexpected can turn game 513 00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:41,680 day into payday. 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For additional terms and responsible 531 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,680 gaming resources see DKNG dot co slash audio limited time offer. 532 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,000 On the text line, Shannon says, thanks for the info. 533 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,680 I will check out doctor Ashley, but I'm not giving 534 00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:56,920 up my Peloton workouts. They help my sanity. No, And 535 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,079 that's fine, That's totally fine. And I've talked about this. 536 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,119 When you know, when they build the plans for you, 537 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,799 when you're on the program, they ask you these things 538 00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,319 like Okay, do you work out? And I was like no, 539 00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:12,920 and they were like Okay, well, then we're going to 540 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,039 build a different plan for you. If I was working out, 541 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,359 if I was, you know, lifting weights all the time, 542 00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:21,799 then the the amount of protein that I would have 543 00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:24,079 to be feeding my body would have to be increased. 544 00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:29,480 So I don't, you know, don't lose the muscle mass. 545 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,839 A message from jan who says to sorry, the first 546 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,559 meal of the day is the most important. Do seven 547 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:42,359 cups of coffee count as the first meal of the day. No, 548 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,519 it does not. You can have this, I mean, I 549 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,000 would not reckon. I've actually switched over to the to 550 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,640 DCAF because I drink coffee basically all day long. But 551 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,759 you really shouldn't. And this wasn't something that the PhD 552 00:32:56,119 --> 00:33:00,000 folks told me. It was I came across this information 553 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,720 in someplace within the last probably two years maybe or 554 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:10,000 a year, that when you keep putting caffeine into your 555 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:13,680 body for the length of time that I do during 556 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,119 the day. I mean, I make a full pot of 557 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,279 coffee in the morning. It's DCALF now, but it used 558 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:24,279 to be fully leaded caffeine, right, and it basically keeps 559 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:28,279 on like inciting the fight or flight response in your 560 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,440 adrenal glands. I want to say, and so that's what 561 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,440 gives you the amped up feeling, that's what gives you 562 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,720 the energy. And so you're if you wake up in 563 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,720 the morning and the first thing you're drinking is coffee, 564 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:44,960 then it's wreaking havoc on that adrenal system and it 565 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,400 can lead to long term problems. So the recommendation is 566 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,640 that you wait ninety minutes before you have your first caffeine. 567 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,559 So I went over to the decalf and I had 568 00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:59,440 to find the water processed kind, which is Pete's coffee. 569 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,759 I'm not a paid endorser of peats and it's spelled 570 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:06,759 pee t, so it's no you know, I have no 571 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:12,199 connection to it, no relation. But it's water processed because 572 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,840 most caf decaffeinated coffee is decaffeinated through like some alcohol process, 573 00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:21,039 and it would give me immediate headaches. And I am 574 00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:23,480 like in the one percent of the population apparently that 575 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:25,719 gets the headaches from that process. So I could never 576 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,440 drink the decalf, but I do love the coffee. So 577 00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,480 then my sister in law bought me some of this 578 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:33,800 PiZZ dcalf that was decaffeinated with the water process, the 579 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,800 Swiss water process, I think it's called and I mean 580 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,880 they sell it at Harris Teeter and it's the only 581 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000 one I've seen that has the water process and no 582 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:46,079 headaches from it. So but yes, you can have this. 583 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,159 You can have the seven cups of coffee. It's not advisable, 584 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,480 but you can have the coffee. But you're going to 585 00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:54,320 have the first meal of the day at some point, right, 586 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,519 And that's what doctor Lucas was saying, is that when 587 00:34:56,559 --> 00:35:00,639 you have your first meal, it matters what you're putting 588 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:05,119 into your body for that first meal. Right. You want, 589 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,320 like you want a high protein injection that starts your 590 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,880 body fired up, gets it fired up in the morning. 591 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:17,039 So you like, eggs are great, Eggs are great. Yeah, 592 00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,360 protein and a little bit of dietary fat, like some 593 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,559 half and half, like two tablespoons a half and half. Now, 594 00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:27,519 there was a study that came out NBC News reported 595 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,119 being overweight or obese has long been linked to a 596 00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:35,920 greater risk of developing or dying from breast cancer. New 597 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,639 research suggests a reason certain breast cancer tumors may feed 598 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,559 on neighboring cells. The findings may help scientists find ways 599 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:49,159 to treat triple negative breast cancer, which is notoriously aggressive 600 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,199 and as much lower survival rates. Also, the results may 601 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,199 apply to any cancer that uses fat as an energy source. 602 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,880 This was published in a Nature communications. Triple negative accounts 603 00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:08,480 for about triple negative cancer. Breast cancer accounts for fifteen 604 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,519 percent of all breast cancers. It tends to be more 605 00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,440 common in black women and women under forty years old, 606 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,760 and it's more likely to come back than other cancers. 607 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,440 So apparently, what the cancer cells do is that they 608 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,800 gain access to the fat cells by poking like this 609 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:31,800 straw like structure into the fat cells and then dislodging 610 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,760 the lipids that are stored there. And what they found 611 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,239 was that the closer the fat cells were to tumor cells, 612 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,960 the more depleted the lipids were. And so when they 613 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,800 blocked the tumor's ability to build that straw, the tumor 614 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,239 stopped growing. So this could be very very good news 615 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,360 this link and if they could block the straws, then 616 00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:59,519 you can reduce the mortality of the cancer. All right, 617 00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,960 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 618 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,000 for listening. I could not do the show without your 619 00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,840 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 620 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,639 the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too, 621 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:11,360 and tell them you heard it here. You can also 622 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,000 become a patron at my patreon page or go to 623 00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,840 thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much for listening, 624 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920 and don't break anything while I'm gone.