Speaker 1: A twenty eight to fifty five KRCD talk station. Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 1: It's that time of the week where we get to
Speaker 1: do a deep dive. It's the Daniel Davis Deep Dive.
Speaker 1: Search for it you'll find a podcast and the retired
Speaker 1: lieutenant colonel loves talking about Ukraine and this in Russia.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Daniel, my dear friend. Good to see you.
Speaker 2: Good Tuesday morning. Tell you how are you, Brian. I'm
Speaker 2: doing well. I'm doing really well.
Speaker 1: Now I help me make sense of this. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: says we need to stop you and we want the
Speaker 1: war to end. I mean, he says it over and
Speaker 1: over again. He wants to stop the war. I get that.
Speaker 1: I hope the war gets ended. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see loss of human life anymore. And I sure as
Speaker 1: hell don't want to see billions and billions of additional
Speaker 1: dollars flowing into Ukraine. And you and I have talked
Speaker 1: many times about the virtual, if not genuine, impossibility of
Speaker 1: Ukraine prevailing over Russia, and Russia keeps making more and
Speaker 1: more inroads. That's established. So Trump told reporters last week,
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that war end.
Speaker 3: We're looking to.
Speaker 1: Do a deal with Ukraine, where they're going to secure
Speaker 1: what we're giving them with their rare earth and other things,
Speaker 1: meaning the minerals. And they have a very large mineral
Speaker 1: supply in Ukraine from what I understand, so they have
Speaker 1: something to bargain with. But that sounds like in return
Speaker 1: for US giving them more weaponry, they're at least gonna
Speaker 1: pay for it with with minerals. Is that doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like an end of the war. That sounds like an
Speaker 1: extension of it.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's it's really unspecific what the administration intends
Speaker 2: with the deal, a deal to do what that's what's
Speaker 2: literally not been speculating, either by Zelensky or by Trump team,
Speaker 2: because on the one hand, it seems to me and
Speaker 2: trying to read between the lines, that Trump is saying
Speaker 2: that we're gonna help you guys achieve an end of
Speaker 2: the war. I won't say peace, but certainly an end
Speaker 2: of the war on terms that maybe you can like
Speaker 2: as long as I get something out of it. I
Speaker 2: don't see him even implying Trump I'm talking about that
Speaker 2: he would continue to support the war to get minerals,
Speaker 2: that there would be some kind of a military victory
Speaker 2: for them. So that's the way I think, and I
Speaker 2: think that's the most plausible, even for Zelensky, if he
Speaker 2: can hang on to anything. I think the hope is
Speaker 2: that Trump will negotiates some kind of an end of
Speaker 2: war termination deal that is at least tolerable to the
Speaker 2: key of side.
Speaker 3: But Brian, I don't think that there's a deal like
Speaker 3: that to be had.
Speaker 2: So I think that everybody, from Zelensky to Trump and
Speaker 2: everybody else who's trying to get this kind of a
Speaker 2: deal is going to be surprised how it turns out.
Speaker 3: If that is what they're thinking.
Speaker 1: Well, I would imagine, you know, we rebuilt Germany and
Speaker 1: we've been trading partners with them since World War Two,
Speaker 1: that after this war is concluded, however it gets concluded,
Speaker 1: and I think you and I agree that it's going
Speaker 1: to require some major concessions of land to the Russians,
Speaker 1: but that we would be a trading partner with what's
Speaker 1: left to Ukraine, we'd be happy to buy their minerals.
Speaker 2: Well, certainly, I think that's what he's trying to bank on.
Speaker 2: But the problem is if the deal doesn't also include
Speaker 2: the Russian side of this, and if they're not also
Speaker 2: in agreement with how it turns out. That's where the
Speaker 2: big disappointments are going to come in at the moment.
Speaker 2: The majority of where these theoretical minerals actually are or
Speaker 2: potential because there some of them were literally married, buried
Speaker 2: miles under the ground. So it's not like they can
Speaker 2: just go to the bank and make it, you know,
Speaker 2: a withdrawal of these minerals, and it takes a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of lead time, and I mean it'd
Speaker 2: be multiple years before you could actually mine enough of
Speaker 2: this stuff, reprocessed it, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And a majority that's under areas.
Speaker 2: Already controlled by the Russians, and the way things are
Speaker 2: going there even more that's gonna be done. So if
Speaker 2: you want to make a deal because you want to
Speaker 2: get something for the United States afterwards or whatever you're Zelensky,
Speaker 2: you want to make a deal, you also have to
Speaker 2: be able to look at the other half of that equation.
Speaker 2: Will the Russians agree to that deal? Because right now
Speaker 2: they're in a position of power to they can come
Speaker 2: closer to dictating terms than anybody in the West.
Speaker 3: Or in Kiev.
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, it's not gonna get over today.
Speaker 1: We know that Daniel Davis pivoting over Hamasa's I guess
Speaker 1: through with the deal. They claim Israel violated the terms
Speaker 1: of conditions of the ceasefire. What has been troubling me
Speaker 1: is they freed twenty one hostages and they're not in
Speaker 1: very good shape, as we saw the other day. They
Speaker 1: have obviously been starved and mistreated. But the Israelis have
Speaker 1: given up seven hundred and thirty Palestinians. They were supposed
Speaker 1: to give several hundred more this weekend in return for
Speaker 1: three more of the hostages that Hamas is holding, and
Speaker 1: I think some are speculating, I believe Donald Trump himself
Speaker 1: wondering whether the many of those hostage are even still alive,
Speaker 1: given the poor condition of the ones they released.
Speaker 2: Well, look, there's been a strange way for these hostages
Speaker 2: to come out. You may recall that when I think
Speaker 2: the first batch of four women hostages were released, they
Speaker 2: were actually in very good help. So it seems that
Speaker 2: there is the Palestinians for or the Hamas rather for
Speaker 2: whatever their own motives are. Feed some and treat some
Speaker 2: well and some not. It seems like the men were
Speaker 2: not treated well and the women were. There's some reports
Speaker 2: that the Palestinians were saying, Hey, you know you've been
Speaker 2: starving us, You've been even the food for our people,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna do the same thing to your hostage
Speaker 2: as something like that. But it's it's really hard for
Speaker 2: me to see how the Hamas side benefits from slowing
Speaker 2: this down and changing three for as you said, they
Speaker 2: could get hundreds more in return. So I don't know
Speaker 2: what their play is here, but it's again you talk
Speaker 2: about leverage and who's got it. They don't seem to
Speaker 2: have a lot of leverage and not much to gain
Speaker 2: that I'm seeing, So it's a bit of a head
Speaker 2: scratcher for me.
Speaker 1: I guess they're really inviting Isra to launch military action again.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's I mean this, you know, and there's
Speaker 2: already a lot of talk about that that's what's coming anyway,
Speaker 2: and Trump is not been very shy about talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, that he's gonna help Israel. And there's a
Speaker 2: huge i think like nearly seven billion dollar new aid
Speaker 2: package talking about going out the door. So it wouldn't
Speaker 2: seem that Hamas would have some motivation to help that
Speaker 2: along to their demise, So maybe there's something else going
Speaker 2: on here. I can't see because what we can see
Speaker 2: just doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Well, and something else doesn't make a whole lot of
Speaker 1: sense to me. Each Trump's talking about owning Gaza, and
Speaker 1: he speaks about it in pretty stark terms. But what
Speaker 1: I wanted to pivot over to it is a nightmarish
Speaker 1: landscape in Gaza. All the images we get out of it,
Speaker 1: it's just it just seems uninhabitable.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's one thing that the West
Speaker 2: needs to get a deeper understanding of, and especially Trump
Speaker 2: and his negotiating team, that to the Palestinian people, even
Speaker 2: that landscape, that hellish landscape that Trump accurately describes, is
Speaker 2: their identity. And you know, Trump was saying, look, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll see this stuff, how would anybody want to live there?
Speaker 2: We want to give them a nice place somewhere else
Speaker 2: in Jordan, Egypt, elsewhere to go to. But it's not
Speaker 2: about where you you know, the kind of living you
Speaker 2: want to have. It's about where their ancestral homeland is.
Speaker 2: So if people think that they will willingly go somewhere
Speaker 2: for a better land, I think they're going to be
Speaker 2: disappointed because they don't want to go anywhere else. They
Speaker 2: just want their land, and right now they're apparently willing
Speaker 2: to die for So we need to be sure we
Speaker 2: understand how serious they are about not wanting to leave.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: And I think the Egyptians and Georgianians are full on
Speaker 1: record saying they don't want the Palestinians even for a
Speaker 1: short period of time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 2: And because people don't understand also that and I was
Speaker 2: looking at some re horts literally just a few minutes
Speaker 2: before we came on air, that Jordan has taken in
Speaker 2: somewhere close to three million Palestinians over the years already,
Speaker 2: and another nearly one million Syrian refugees from that civil war.
Speaker 3: And so they are bursting at the seams.
Speaker 2: They simply can't take anymore, certainly, not in any large numbers.
Speaker 2: So if Trump's thinking he's going to pressure in which
Speaker 2: I think he said to Brett Bear on that Super
Speaker 2: Bowl interview, I don't think that they're going to be
Speaker 2: able to. And apparently King Jordan, King of Jordan, is
Speaker 2: going to talk to Trump I think as early as tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do believe he's in town for a meeting
Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. If I read that correctly, Abdullah, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, And finally looks like Tulsa Gabbard's going to
Speaker 1: get it, gonna get the approval. And I know you
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about that one.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's heading to I think that the Senate had
Speaker 2: what they call cloture yesterday that's basically paved the final
Speaker 2: way the final vote will be I think like just
Speaker 2: a couple of hours from now, and by all estimations
Speaker 2: are she's going to pass through that and then be
Speaker 2: sworn in as the Director of National Intelligence tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Well, that'll put a smile on your pace based on
Speaker 1: all the comments you've made on the morning show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it should do, you know what, It should
Speaker 2: put a smile on everybody's face in America because, as
Speaker 2: I say, I think that's the best pick that Trump
Speaker 2: made of any of his senior advisor positions the government
Speaker 2: because of her her capabilities to do the job.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a big win for
Speaker 3: Trump and the US.
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