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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from world famous studio a Here at

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<v Speaker 1>Proven Winters Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening

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<v Speaker 1>Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick weisst and our

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<v Speaker 1>engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, it's a big decision

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<v Speaker 1>to move in together, you and your plants for the

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<v Speaker 1>holiday and winter season. It's going to take some patience,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of give and take, some understanding, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course for some holiday decor takes precedence in November

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<v Speaker 1>and December, so the plants are just kind of pushed

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<v Speaker 1>off to the side, and then we go crazy over

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<v Speaker 1>houseplants in January, February and March. But as winter arrives,

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<v Speaker 1>many times we'll stand there and go, I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to part with these beautiful annuals that I've babied

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<v Speaker 1>all year long and they look so gorgeous. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about it's not about being cheap. It's about just

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<v Speaker 1>developing a relationship with these plants that you've enjoyed all

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<v Speaker 1>season long and hoping that maybe somehow you can stash

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<v Speaker 1>them and they make a phoenix like recovery next spring.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are into.

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<v Speaker 2>That space you know I was going to say the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same thing that you just said. It is about

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship. And for many years I've told people just

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<v Speaker 2>throw it away, there's no harm in that. That's perfectly fine,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is true. If you prefer to throw things

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<v Speaker 2>away or let the frost just take them, that is

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly fine. But I have over the years acquired some

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<v Speaker 2>plants that I do have a relationship with, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do bring them in. Now, I will say, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, my house is far from ideal for bringing

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<v Speaker 2>plants indoors. I don't have a whole lot of sunlight,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have windowsills. But what I do have is

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<v Speaker 2>this amazing alocasia also known as elephant ear yep, that

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<v Speaker 2>I have been bringing in and out for winter for

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<v Speaker 2>three years now. And what's cool about it is it

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<v Speaker 2>has just gotten so big because I keep you know,

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<v Speaker 2>growing it and perpetuating it, and like now I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>house with the giant elephanty here every season, and so

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like kind of building its own thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't think of not bringing this in now. That said,

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<v Speaker 2>it is also probably the easiest plant to bring in

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<v Speaker 2>compared to a lot of other things. People want to

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<v Speaker 2>bring in the tropical hibiscus house plants, all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of jazz. Bringing in this allocasia, which is basically a bulb,

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<v Speaker 2>basically just means me sticking it in my basement and

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<v Speaker 2>not watering it until January. And I don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. It doesn't take up any space, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>need any light. It just sits there in kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a state of suspended animation, and come next spring, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the house with the elephanty again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's quite easy, and that's the point. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're moving in tropical like houseplants. We're also moving in

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<v Speaker 1>what we may loosely classify as summer flowering bulbs. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been digging up my canna rizal, yeah, bringing them in.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you have dahlias. I think that kalladiums are

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect example of this conundrum where you have the

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<v Speaker 1>option to at the end of the season dump them,

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<v Speaker 1>treat them like annuals, or lift them and store them

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<v Speaker 1>like you are with your elephant ear. For a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, that's too much trouble. They really don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Or with kalladiums, you could move them

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<v Speaker 1>inside and treat them as a houseplant. Heart to heart

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<v Speaker 1>kalladiums give you that opportunity, but again not real easy

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<v Speaker 1>and why well, the reasons are, and I think Stacey,

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<v Speaker 1>the big mistakes that I see people make when moving

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<v Speaker 1>plants indoors is number one. You've got to start with

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<v Speaker 1>healthy plants. That's the first thing. If they're unhealthy moving

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<v Speaker 1>in to a low humidity situation, a low light situation,

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<v Speaker 1>things are going to go from bad to worse. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to start with healthy plants.

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<v Speaker 2>And you should be aware too of how the plant

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<v Speaker 2>is responding to the natural changing daylights. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that could have caused your kalladiums to start to go

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<v Speaker 2>dormant a little bit early, but that doesn't mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>not unhealthy. Now, an unhealthy plant would be something that's

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<v Speaker 2>like all covered in mealy bug, or you know, has

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<v Speaker 2>a virus or something really bad. But don't confuse a

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<v Speaker 2>plant that's merely going dormant due to what it has

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<v Speaker 2>just experienced weatherwise and climate wise, you know, with something

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<v Speaker 2>that can absolutely come inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Very very true. So in the mistakes, I say start

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<v Speaker 1>with the with healthy plants. The second mistake people make

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<v Speaker 1>the soils too wet when you move it inside. That's

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<v Speaker 1>going to cause two problems, rotting roots and also fungus

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<v Speaker 1>gnats so soil that's too wet. I also think if

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<v Speaker 1>you're moving plants inside, let it be a gradual move

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to an immediate move if you do it immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>moving it from sunlight outdoor air indoors. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>ficus plant, of course, is the perfect example where you'll lose.

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<v Speaker 1>The plant will shed fifty percent of its leaves. So

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<v Speaker 1>make that transition a little easier by a gradual move

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<v Speaker 1>to where it's going to overwinter. Cleanliness is super important.

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<v Speaker 1>The foliage also a sterile soil fungus gnats. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay attention to that, and like I said, if

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<v Speaker 1>the soil's wet you establish fungus gnats, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be fighting that battle all winter long. Don't be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to reduce the size of the plant. And then understand

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<v Speaker 1>the dry heat indoors, lack of humidity can create problems,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are ways that people work around that. Keeping

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<v Speaker 1>plants away from heat registers, maybe an unheated room that's

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<v Speaker 1>brightly lit but doesn't freeze. The whole idea is in

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<v Speaker 1>many cases to keep these plants alive until next spring.

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<v Speaker 1>With summer bulbs, we're lifting them out and again we

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<v Speaker 1>want healthy tubers or healthy rhizomes we're pulling out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. And Stacy, I never washed them off because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want them going into storage wet. I spread

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<v Speaker 1>them out on a tarp, and I let the soil dry,

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<v Speaker 1>and I shake the soil off.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so you're talking about your cannas now, and

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<v Speaker 2>then what do you do with them for winter?

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<v Speaker 1>So then for winter, I put them into crates which

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<v Speaker 1>are open, they're airy, and I put them in an

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<v Speaker 1>unheated area okay that does not freeze, with a little

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<v Speaker 1>burr lap over the top, and away we go.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't do any like wet newspaper sawdust, any

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<v Speaker 2>of that jazz. Okay. Now, I will say, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I did the right thing with my cannas that I

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<v Speaker 2>got from the can of King. But I did lose

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I didn't lose all the bulbs, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did lose a lot. Now, I did everything that you said.

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<v Speaker 2>They went in there dry, they went into my You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a basement with a storage room on the

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<v Speaker 2>front that's under the porch, so very cool. Definitely doesn't freeze.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just threw them in a garbage like a

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<v Speaker 2>paper grocery sack, okay, and put them in there and

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, see in spring. And when I saw

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<v Speaker 2>them in spring, I had a lot of moldy dust.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I I think it's because of the paper sack.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I like to use laundry baskets.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, oh, that's a good idea and they work.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, and that's one of the keys in getting them

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<v Speaker 1>to survive. Now also at the time when you lift

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<v Speaker 1>them out of the soil, you want to grade them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got my laundry baskets to my right, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got my wheelbarrow to the left. And if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>make the grade, they go in the wheelbarrow. If they

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<v Speaker 1>make the grade, they go into the laundry baskets.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say the grade, are you just taking

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest ones? You're taking ones that like don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any crud, you know, roddy bits on them.

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<v Speaker 1>I look for rot I look for eyes on the cannons,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, the size of the cannons. Also also how

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<v Speaker 1>much work I'm going to want to put into it

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<v Speaker 1>next spring? Oh, planted way too many cannons this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know the problem with that is it's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to think that in spring or summer. It's quite

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<v Speaker 2>another to think it and fall when you're like, these

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<v Speaker 2>are all good, I need to keep them all exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough. It's tough, but you got to be tough

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<v Speaker 1>to get out there and do that grating and it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a limerick for plants because plants really can't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>But if plants could talk and you were bringing them inside,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what plants would say, Oh, the weather outside

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<v Speaker 1>is frightful, but your windowsills delightful. Since we've got no

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<v Speaker 1>place to go, let it snow, Let it snow. Might

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<v Speaker 1>I add your plantings insightful? So we're moving in together

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<v Speaker 1>to your living room. I'll tether, but here's a fair warning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grumpy on a winter morning. My personality is fair weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we survive together till spring? Will you take me

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<v Speaker 1>under your wing by not throwing me in the trash,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be save in some cash. Let's say it together, kuching. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, And you know, I try to convince

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<v Speaker 1>myself that it's just because I have the relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>these plants that I'm moving them in, and because I'm cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I take my grandson Max for an ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream cone. Bill Murray always famously said that if you

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<v Speaker 1>take a kid out for an ice cream cone, eat

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<v Speaker 1>thirty to forty percent of their ice cream, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great way to teach them about taxation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all it's gonna leave you with is a

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<v Speaker 2>very disappointed grandson unless you get the extra large. Unless

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<v Speaker 2>you get the extra large cone and they can't eat

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<v Speaker 2>it all. Otherwise, Wow, you don't really do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I did, but I'm tempted. I'm tempted. It depends

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<v Speaker 1>on the flavor.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there you go. Because yeah, sometimes kids get like

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<v Speaker 2>Superman or some horrendous.

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<v Speaker 1>And it turns your tongue blue and yeah, forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's like chocolate fudge, might just do that. Anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>we're moving our plants inside. Let's see how Stacey ties

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<v Speaker 1>this in and plants on trial. That's coming up next

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<v Speaker 1>here on the gardening Simplified.

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about moving your plants indoors, and it is November,

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<v Speaker 2>so this might be a little bit late for some people,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on where you live and depending on the plant

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<v Speaker 2>in question, because of course, some things that people bring indoors,

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<v Speaker 2>tropical plants, houseplant kind of things, are very very tender

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<v Speaker 2>and couldn't even take a little bit of frost, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other things that we maybe move in

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<v Speaker 2>can take a little bit of cold, and we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>really had that much cold here in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as a matter of fact, in Branching News, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that, how the growing seasons seem to be extending.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a fig leaf of your imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>They may not be late this year, it sure isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, here we are mid November and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fifty degrees and we've had a couple of frosts,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, probably your most crucial things you've already

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<v Speaker 2>brought indoors. But like I said, you know, my Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>my big elephant ear is still outside. And that one

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actually take out of the soil. I just

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I give it like a dribble of water like

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<v Speaker 2>proteac family, beautiful interesting plants native to Australia and South Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I've said before, I wish I had a

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<v Speaker 2>We always want what we don't have. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas the people who live in hot climates, the reason

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<v Speaker 2>that they can't grow these things is because those plants

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<v Speaker 2>need a cooling period. And you know, frankly, ice is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to cut it, no matter what the people

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<v Speaker 2>the azalea bluebal rice, right, not the masters, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>But there are things that we can do in cold

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<v Speaker 1>Now well, and therein they applied the Moniker house plants.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't call them prisoners. They called them house.

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<v Speaker 2>Plants, although prisoner would would actually apply to some houseplants

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<v Speaker 2>these days. Healthlay now when it comes to determining what

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<v Speaker 2>in containers or the gardener or whatever, expecting they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be annuals. Yes, and then we fall in love

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<v Speaker 2>and we say, hey, you know what, I might try

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<v Speaker 2>like having that curiosity, being willing to try something, and

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<v Speaker 2>most importantly forgiving yourself and not dwelling on it when

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<v Speaker 2>but then and if it doesn't work out so well,

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<v Speaker 2>You need to say, what did I learn from this?

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of people do it with Christmas cactus and I

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<v Speaker 1>did it for years with geraniums. I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the general rule to keep in mind is

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<v Speaker 2>likely it is going to be successfully overwintered indoors good points.

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<v Speaker 2>So if something is say harding to USDA Zone six,

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<v Speaker 2>it still needs winters where it's getting fresh air and

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<v Speaker 2>changing day length and all of that. But as we

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<v Speaker 2>get into plants that are from warmer climates that are

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<v Speaker 2>course I've known for years. I've seen it around in

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<v Speaker 2>the trial gardens. I've seen it in our greenhouses. We

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<v Speaker 2>plant it sometimes in the landscape here so our customers

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<v Speaker 2>can see it just as like an example, even though

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<v Speaker 2>we know it's not gonna live. And that plant is

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<v Speaker 2>jazz hands variegated Laura pedalum.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a crazy plant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a crazy plant. So now if you are from

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<v Speaker 2>the South, you're like Laura pedalam whatever, because this plant

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<v Speaker 2>is so ubiquitous in warm climates. It still amazes me

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<v Speaker 2>to this day when I travel down south how ubiquitous

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<v Speaker 2>Laura pedalum really is. And the interesting thing, one of

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much someone calls it that. It's everyone calls it

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<v Speaker 2>Laura pedalum, and it gets the name Chinese fringe flower

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<v Speaker 2>because it's flowers look like little silky bundles of bright

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<v Speaker 1>They look like witch hazel to me, is it in

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<v Speaker 1>the same family.

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<v Speaker 2>It is in the witch hazel family. Yes, now with

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<v Speaker 2>witch hazel. So witch hazel are native American witch hazel

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<v Speaker 2>blooms in fall, and the Asian one that many of

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<v Speaker 2>us grow blooms in winter. And since both of those

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<v Speaker 2>roll up their little streamer like flowers for warmth, and

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<v Speaker 2>then on sunny, warm days they will unfurl them. You

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<v Speaker 2>won't really see that happen with the Laura pedulum quite

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<v Speaker 2>as much because by the time they bloom in late

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<v Speaker 2>winter early spring, the goin's good and they're just it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great description streamer like flowers or jazz hands.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we thought of that. I like it so

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<v Speaker 2>it's ubiquitous. People love it because it has most Laura peddlums,

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<v Speaker 2>dark purple foliage and then these bright pink flowers to contrast.

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<v Speaker 2>But jazz Hands variegated just totally takes what's already a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good foliage plant and turns it into a fabulous

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<v Speaker 2>foliage plant, because once the summer starts to set in,

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<v Speaker 2>the new growth on jazz Hands variegated Laura pedulum is

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<v Speaker 2>just a confetti shower of white and pink and purple

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<v Speaker 2>and cream and all these different colors swirling around the leaves.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single leaf is different, and every single leaf is

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<v Speaker 2>practically a work of art. It's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just sitting here thinking, you're nailing the adjectives today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the reasons that I'm nailing the adjectives

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<v Speaker 2>and why I chose this particular plant for today's plant

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<v Speaker 2>on trial was because I always thought of it as

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<v Speaker 2>a landscape plant, you know, as a landscape plant for

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<v Speaker 2>warm climates. But I was recently on vacation in Tokyo, Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna be talking about our vacations on a

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<v Speaker 2>that we saw. But in Tokyo, I was walking down

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked at this little store and they had

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<v Speaker 2>of their little shop, and it included jazz hands variable

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<v Speaker 2>who And this was not really a plant that I

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<v Speaker 2>had previously thought of as like a splashy container accentle

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<v Speaker 2>when and I'll put the pictures in YouTube as well

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<v Speaker 2>It just completely changed the way that I think about

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<v Speaker 2>how this plant could be used, and it might change

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<v Speaker 2>the way you think about how the plant could be

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<v Speaker 2>used too. So the reason I wanted to make it

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<v Speaker 2>Today's Plant on Trial is because if you live in

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<v Speaker 2>an area where this plant is not hardy, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>basically cooler than usdazone eight or thereabouts, you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to find it in your garden center. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>probably need to order one online, and it is available

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<v Speaker 2>probably about twenty to twenty five dollars for a four

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<v Speaker 2>enough to make a big impact and a mixed container,

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<v Speaker 2>and it will grow fast and look really great. But

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<v Speaker 2>once you've invested that in this plant, you very well

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<v Speaker 2>may want to continue to grow it and try to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it indoors, and it is possible. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>what that looks like and what to expect. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to try bringing jazz Hands, variegated Laura pedlam

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<v Speaker 2>or any of these shrubs that are like zone eight

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, warm or less cold tolerant, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>want to put it in your coolest, brightest spot in

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<v Speaker 2>your house. You want to avoid any cold blasts from

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<v Speaker 2>doors that are opening and closing to the outdoors. You

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<v Speaker 2>like an even cool temperature. You are going to want

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<v Speaker 2>it to have plenty of sunshine the best you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have a light, that's great. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>add the light for it. That will definitely help. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to water, but not too much, as you were

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about too much water. Plants aren't using that

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<v Speaker 2>So fungus hats become a problem because that water's not

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<v Speaker 2>going anywhere. It's certainly not evaporating that much into your

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<v Speaker 2>home's atmosphere, and the plant's not really using it. So

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of water definitely don't let it dry

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<v Speaker 2>out completely. But if you're going to air on any side,

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<v Speaker 2>And so once you're doing all of these things, I

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not you, it's them. So you really just

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<v Speaker 2>to clean those up. But that doesn't mean that the

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<v Speaker 2>ideal condition It's a defense mechanism. Hey, I need less

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<v Speaker 2>foliage because I'm not as effective at photosynthesizing and growing,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to just kind of conserve my resources.

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<v Speaker 2>So really the key here is to think about doing

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<v Speaker 2>it whether it's Jazz Hands Variegated, Laura Pedulum, or something else.

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<v Speaker 2>The key here is to think about these plants indoors

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<v Speaker 2>for winter, not as an ornamental accent that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to make your house look like it's something straight out

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<v Speaker 2>of an Instagram story, but as storage for the plants

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<v Speaker 2>so that you can grow them again next year. So

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<v Speaker 2>is either in a landscape or in a container in Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can decide if you're going to put one

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<v Speaker 2>in your garden either next year in the ground or

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps in a container. We're gonna take a little break

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<v Speaker 2>and when we come back, we're going to be opening

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<v Speaker 2>up the garden mail legs, so please stay tuned. At

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<v Speaker 2>proven Winner's color Choice, we've got a shrub for every

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<v Speaker 2>taste and every space. Whether you're looking for an easycare

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<v Speaker 2>rose and unforgettable Hydrangea or something new and unique, you

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<v Speaker 2>can be confident that the shrubs and the white containers

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<v Speaker 2>have been trialed and tested for your success. Look for

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<v Speaker 2>them at your local Garden Center. Greetings, gardening friends, and

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to take the time to answer your gardening questions.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been hearing from a lot of you with all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of different questions, and we'd be happy to help

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<v Speaker 2>you with your unique or maybe not so unique garden

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<v Speaker 2>conundrum because chances are if you're having an issue, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other people might be having a similar issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, we're all in this together. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking you made a great point about how

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<v Speaker 1>these plants do not like drafts, whether it's a hot

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<v Speaker 1>draft or a cold draft. These plants you're bringing inside

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<v Speaker 1>do not want a Heineken or a Budweiser, or a cores.

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<v Speaker 2>No or coffee or coffee. They just need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to do your best to just keep things

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<v Speaker 2>like level. But you know, as I often say, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't garden in the ideal world. We garden in the

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<v Speaker 2>real world where we maybe don't have that ideal space.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think again, the biggest issue with bringing anything

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<v Speaker 2>indoors that you aren't sure if it's going to do

433
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<v Speaker 2>well is to you know, understand that it's an experiment

434
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<v Speaker 2>understand that the plant is merely tolerating the conditions, not

435
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<v Speaker 2>thriving in them, and that's okay. Your goal is just

436
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<v Speaker 2>to get it to that point where it can go

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<v Speaker 2>back outside again. And every time I've done this successful,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not all the times, you're amazed at how

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<v Speaker 2>quickly it recovers once it gets outside, back into the sunshine,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like nothing ever happened.

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<v Speaker 1>To make a great point, Stacy, because I'll hear people

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<v Speaker 1>say that they're going to apply fertilizer, don't fertilize.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people think that fertilizer is the answer to

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<v Speaker 2>plant problems, and I can tell you very rarely outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the vegetable garden environment is fertilizer. The answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Me with verbal supplements, pop those babies. This has gotta work.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, if you have a gardening question for us,

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<v Speaker 2>you can reach us at help HLP at Gardening Simplified

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<v Speaker 2>on air dot com, or just visit Gardening Simplified on

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<v Speaker 2>Air dot com. There's a contact form right there. You

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<v Speaker 2>can attach photos or anything like that. You can also

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<v Speaker 2>leave a comment on our YouTube videos. Adriana reads them

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<v Speaker 2>all and we'll pass any along to us that might

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<v Speaker 2>be suitable for answering online. But before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the questions that people ask for this week, I did

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<v Speaker 2>want to address. Nancy in Washington sent us a photo

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in regards to our Halloween episode last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though this isn't really scary, but I just love

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<v Speaker 2>this so much I had to share it. She says,

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<v Speaker 2>this northwestern salamander was strolling through my garden earlier this

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<v Speaker 2>week while enjoying a gentle shower. Well, I don't find

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<v Speaker 2>these spooky. This was the largest one I have ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen in my art. I am so jealous of you, Nancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Adriana is as well. This is an absolutely gorgeous big

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<v Speaker 2>northwestern salamander who is absolutely living its best life in

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy's garden. So we're jealous. Enjoy it and tell salamander

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<v Speaker 2>friend we said hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Nancy. Appreciate it. Cindy writes to us, a contractor

469
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<v Speaker 1>scuffed up her tree. What should I do to provide

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<v Speaker 1>the most protection for it? So that's quite a wound done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she did include photos, which you'll see on YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>or on our show notes at Cardening Simplified on air

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. I opened this and audibly said ouch when

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at it because yeah, it's not great. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this kind of thing happens all the time

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<v Speaker 2>if you're having any kind of work done on your home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of people they just aren't They

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think of trees as like living things that

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<v Speaker 2>can be damaged. But fortunately trees are generally very resilient

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<v Speaker 2>and as bad as this particular scuff is, so basically

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. She has a relatively mature tree with I

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<v Speaker 2>would say probably a good one foot by one foot

483
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<v Speaker 2>gouge taken out of the side of it. And why

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<v Speaker 2>this really matters, see a lot of people, and this

485
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<v Speaker 2>is worth're saying, especially at Christmas time as people start

486
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<v Speaker 2>thinking about getting live trees. Where a tree conducts its

487
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<v Speaker 2>water is not in the center. It is actually around

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<v Speaker 2>the inside edge of the bark. So there's a thin,

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<v Speaker 2>thin layer. If you look, if you cut a fresh branch,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see that thin green layer. That's where the xylum

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<v Speaker 2>and the flow them is. That's where all the business happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And so once that is interrupted by damage, then it

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<v Speaker 2>makes it difficult. It takes away some of the plant's

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<v Speaker 2>ability to conduct water and nutrients through the entire column

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<v Speaker 2>of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Plants exactly loosely defined as the cambium layer. Yes, on

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<v Speaker 1>a tree, and if it's not girdled all the way around,

498
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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be Okay, this tree is going to survive. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not great for the tree. Yeah, but I really

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<v Speaker 1>believe Stacy that the important thing here is just keep

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<v Speaker 1>that area clean. Peel away or cut away some additional damage,

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<v Speaker 1>but keep it clean and allow nature to take its course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't you know the general in the past

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<v Speaker 2>there have been people who have said, oh, you should

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<v Speaker 2>use a wound dressing or wrap it with this tarh Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's all sorts of crazy things out there. The general

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<v Speaker 2>consensus among tree scientists right now is no wound dressing

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<v Speaker 2>at all. So yeah, Nancy, I would or sorry, Cindy Raather,

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<v Speaker 2>I would not do it anything. I know it's painful

510
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<v Speaker 2>and hard to see, but as the plant will start

511
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<v Speaker 2>to heal, that will certainly decrease and it will be

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<v Speaker 2>less visible and a little less painful. The only thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I would say you're really going to want to

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<v Speaker 2>consider long term is that is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>structural defect to some extent in the tree. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just worth considering, you know, if as it gets larger

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<v Speaker 2>and more mature, if it threatens your home or neighbor's

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<v Speaker 2>home or anything like that, you might just want to

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<v Speaker 2>have it checked out by professional arborus who can give

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<v Speaker 2>you a risk assessment as to whether it was severely compromised.

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<v Speaker 1>So Stacy two for the price of one. From April,

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<v Speaker 1>she writes to us what would cause mum seedlings to

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<v Speaker 1>turn red and how to fix it? I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>the little gnats I see are causing it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she also asks a question about dead heading hardy high biscus.

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<v Speaker 1>How is this done? Do you just pull the dead

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<v Speaker 1>flour off or trim elsewhere. I'll jump in on the

528
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<v Speaker 1>mum question the seedlings turning red, because I've seen this before.

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<v Speaker 1>In most cases it's because the soil is too wet.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that she has little gnats causes me

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<v Speaker 1>also to believe that the soil is too wet. So

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<v Speaker 1>you get a pithium root rot with mums, And actually

533
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<v Speaker 1>what it does is anthocyanins in the foliage will cause

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<v Speaker 1>that foliage to turn red. So, in my opinion, not

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the plants myself Stacy. I think April too

536
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<v Speaker 1>wet on those seedlings, and that's what's causing the problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the nats.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the fact that you have fungus gnats

539
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<v Speaker 2>is definitely diagnostic that it is a watering issue, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also don't necessarily it could be a number of things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also important to realize that whether it's a mum

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<v Speaker 2>seedling or something else, that some varieties do have kind

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<v Speaker 2>of purplish or reddish foliage, so it may be variety dependent.

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<v Speaker 2>It can also be due to an increase or a

545
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<v Speaker 2>decrease in news so certain nutrient deficiencies or surpluses can

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<v Speaker 2>cause this as well. And finally, pH and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if the pH is going too acidic or too basic,

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<v Speaker 2>which depending on how much you're watering it and what

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<v Speaker 2>the pH of your water is and what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>soil you use, that can also do it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their April did send a photo of her seedlings and

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<v Speaker 2>they actually look pretty healthy, so they've she's gotten good germination.

553
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<v Speaker 2>They look healthy, and Okay, it's just something needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I would say cutting back on the water

555
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<v Speaker 2>is definitely going to help a lot, and we'll hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of those fungus nets. The fungus hats them

557
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<v Speaker 2>cells are not the problem, but they have their larva

558
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<v Speaker 2>in the soil, and their larva will eat the roots

559
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<v Speaker 2>of the plant that is trying to grow, and that

560
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<v Speaker 2>just sets it back.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also seen it if the soil is too cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not saying that's the case here, but you

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<v Speaker 1>will see that also. If the soil is cold, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes it and then you get stunted plants.

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<v Speaker 2>So just bear all that in mind. I know that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to kind of ask yourself which of these

567
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<v Speaker 2>fis is it? But start with the simplest thing and

568
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<v Speaker 2>just decrease the water, let them dry out slightly. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>the top layer should not always be moist, because if

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<v Speaker 2>it is, that is definitely going to encourage the fungus nets.

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<v Speaker 2>If the top layer can dry out between waterings, that

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<v Speaker 2>will make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did some pruning the other day and Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you when do you dead head

575
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<v Speaker 1>your high biscus, your hardy high biscus.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So this is a good question that April asks,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that we kind of have to determine

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean simply taking off the old flowers or

579
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<v Speaker 2>do you mean preventing them from going to seed, because

580
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<v Speaker 2>the old flowers, you know, they look kind of crummy

581
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<v Speaker 2>on there for a couple days and then they just

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<v Speaker 2>fall off. And in that case, yeah, you can just

583
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<v Speaker 2>take that. If it's bothering you, those mush mummies, you

584
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<v Speaker 2>can just take those off, throw them away, put them

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<v Speaker 2>in your compost whatever. Otherwise, just wait for them to fall.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they do set a seed afterward, and so

587
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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want the seed to set, then you

588
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<v Speaker 2>are going to need to actually take off the entire

589
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<v Speaker 2>little stem that connects that flower to the main stem

590
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<v Speaker 2>of the plant. Now, I don't think that that's necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking for the summarific hibiscus mine, do you set some seed,

592
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<v Speaker 2>but they don't spread around and it does not seem

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<v Speaker 2>to impact their flower development, So you know some thing,

594
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<v Speaker 2>so you can deadhead or remove that seed from developing

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<v Speaker 2>and it will keep the plant flowering vigorously, whereas in

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<v Speaker 2>the case of hardy hibiscus, I don't really think that

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<v Speaker 2>is the case. They have set their flowers and you know,

598
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<v Speaker 2>they just end up getting done by the time the

599
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 2>days are getting shorter and the nights are getting cooler

600
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<v Speaker 2>and everything like that. So if you want to take

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing off again, trace that stem back to

602
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<v Speaker 2>the main stem and go ahead and snip that off.

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<v Speaker 2>If all you care about is the mush mummy, you

604
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<v Speaker 2>can just go ahead and pick those off and throw

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<v Speaker 2>them away. But it's not strictly necessary. This is really

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<v Speaker 2>just a personal preference issue of hygiene and cleanliness in

607
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<v Speaker 2>how you prefer the plants to look.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like to cut them back whenever the spirit

609
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<v Speaker 1>moves me. Actually yeah, And I like to leave some

610
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<v Speaker 1>stubble above ground so I know where they are next

611
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<v Speaker 1>year when the snow clears. Other than that, i'd agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you one hundred percent. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to cut mine back every fall because where

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<v Speaker 2>we had them planted, we needed to use that area

615
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<v Speaker 2>for snow removal. But after talking to Laura from Walter's Gardens,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a guest on the show several weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>she said she recommends cutting them back in spring. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try that from now on. But either way,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fine. They're pretty durable place. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. When we come back. We've got branching news,

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<v Speaker 2>so stay tuned. The Gardening Simplified Show is brought to

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplify Joe. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>branching news. And are you cooped up in the house

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<v Speaker 1>for winter with your plants? Well, welcome to the latest

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<v Speaker 1>water health craze Okra water.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not I like okra too much to just

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<v Speaker 2>infuse it into water. I'd rather make a nice curry

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<v Speaker 2>out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I agree with you. And you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be from okrahoma don't like it. Some people like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, water with mint in it and lemon. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people like cucumber water. Well, this is the health craze,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for your digestive system because they say okra is

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<v Speaker 1>a vegetable high in plant. Help me with the pronunciation,

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy muselage, uselage, muselage mucus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mucilage. It's not mucus. It looks like mucus root

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<v Speaker 2>word does not mean fucus.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's steeped in water. The water basically what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is the okra absorbs the liquid and is great for

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<v Speaker 1>your digestive tract according to some dietitians and nutritionus. But

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<v Speaker 1>it does look really sliny.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the goal is to slice up okra, put

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<v Speaker 2>it in a glass of water, let the mucilage come out,

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<v Speaker 2>and then drink the water.

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<v Speaker 1>And drink the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you eat the okra?

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<v Speaker 1>You can do whatever you want with the okra deep

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<v Speaker 1>fried if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this might actually catch on because okra is expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>so people will think it will actually work. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I could see it being kind of like a cucumber

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<v Speaker 2>water situation, has the same kind of vegetable flavor. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I love okra so too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might try it too, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>really it's kind of gross, But if it's good for you,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I want to give it a try. And lucky

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<v Speaker 1>for you, we're putting the link at our website, Gardening

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<v Speaker 1>Simplified on air dot Com. Stacy jumped out of my

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<v Speaker 1>car the other day and took a picture and a

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot of what I thought was the perfect example

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<v Speaker 1>of what not to do as far as trees are concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>I refer to it as Southwest disease. And for people

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<v Speaker 1>watching on YouTube you can see this example. We can

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<v Speaker 1>put the picture at our website. Also the classic example

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<v Speaker 1>of a tree where the side of the tree that's

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<v Speaker 1>facing south had damage when it was young, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you see that significant damage along the trunk. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was a new development where they had mounded the mulch

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<v Speaker 1>up against the tree and the roots were girdling. You

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<v Speaker 1>could see it. They were above the soil surface. The

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<v Speaker 1>tree was thinning at the top. The perfect example. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just snapped a picture to be able to show that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>just down the road the next place I went, pulled

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<v Speaker 1>into the parking lot and noticed the maple trees there

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<v Speaker 1>that were loaded with powdery mildew and tarspot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, tarspot is not unusual on a maple tree, and

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<v Speaker 1>many times again, folks, it's an indication that winters the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect time to have some pruning done on your trees

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<v Speaker 1>to allow additional light and air movement through the trees

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<v Speaker 1>if you're dealing with these problems. But Stacy, in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>the powdery mildew. I found it really fascinating because it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look like it was dusted on the foliage, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather it was along the veins of the foliage. It

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<v Speaker 1>almost looked like something Jack Frost had done. Interesting, very

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting. But again, if you have powdery mildew, you

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<v Speaker 1>have tar spot on some of these trees that you love,

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<v Speaker 1>or maple trees, it can be an indication that having

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<v Speaker 1>an arborous do some pruning to open up that canopy

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<v Speaker 1>maybe helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also you know, I am a big proponent

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<v Speaker 2>of leave the leaves in your beds, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a tree or shrub or a perennial or anything

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<v Speaker 2>that had a fungal disease, it's a good idea to

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<v Speaker 2>do your best to remove and discard all of that foliage.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the way fungus works is that you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>drops on the leaves right now and then it sits

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<v Speaker 2>there hanging around all winter. When spring comes it's usually

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<v Speaker 2>very wet, high humidity, cool temperatures, those leaves come out.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so soft they have no protective cuticle on them yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fungus is like, now's my chance attack, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know they get on the plant, and people think

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<v Speaker 2>that it's a fall disease because it doesn't show up

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<v Speaker 2>until it's late in the season, but actually the infection

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<v Speaker 2>typically takes place way way back in spring when you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even notice it. So clean up the foliage if

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<v Speaker 2>this is an issue. But I would also say that

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<v Speaker 2>if you have Norway maples, even if you prune them,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they're just gonna get tar spot. It

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<v Speaker 2>just seems to be what they do, at least here

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<v Speaker 2>in mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, well, they're fun guys, just like me. They're opportunists

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<v Speaker 1>looking for the right environment and then it's party time.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. Keep an eye out. Also here

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<v Speaker 1>in branching news for zombies this fall in early winter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm referring to zombie trees and that's not my description.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the description from the US Forest Service. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to put the link at our website Gardening sim

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<v Speaker 1>Simplified on air dot com. But the US Forest Service

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<v Speaker 1>is asking the public to help point out live looking

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<v Speaker 1>but actual dead trees because they can pose a safety hazard,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in urban environments. Of course, if it happens in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods, who cares. But in urban environments, if a

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<v Speaker 1>tree is dying from the inside out or rotting or declining.

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<v Speaker 1>You should identify these trees because they do pose a

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<v Speaker 1>safety risk. So as the leaves turn color and fall

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<v Speaker 1>from the trees, you can develop the ability I know

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<v Speaker 1>I have driving through neighborhoods where you can identify some

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<v Speaker 1>of these trees. I also was at an arboretum once

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<v Speaker 1>with arborous who were using drills and drilling into trees

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<v Speaker 1>with long drill bits and determining if the tree was

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<v Speaker 1>hollowed out. So again, look for those zombie trees. It

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<v Speaker 1>is something that the US Forest Service is talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can find that link at our website right.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to know an interesting thing, one thing that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>super interested in, and I could talk about it for hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't. I've got just a couple minutes here.

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<v Speaker 1>But data supports the fact that we are experiencing longer

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<v Speaker 1>growing seasons. Now, if you're in Florida or Georgia, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as big a deal. It's not as I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe recognizable as it is for example here

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan or maybe Ohio. And I took a county

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<v Speaker 1>as an example here in Michigan, Kent County, where the

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<v Speaker 1>average growing season over the past fifty years is something

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred and fifty four days. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty four days between the last frost

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<v Speaker 1>in spring the first frost first hard frost in fall.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting to look at a study from Purdue

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<v Speaker 1>University and again the link at our website Gardeningsimplified on

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<v Speaker 1>air dot Com. I can sit there with this link,

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<v Speaker 1>with this tool and play with it for hours because

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. For example, this county that I use as

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<v Speaker 1>an example here in Michigan in nineteen sixty one, they

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<v Speaker 1>had a growing season that was only one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four days. Wow. The last frost was May twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>The first frost was September twenty eight. In nineteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 1>we had one hundred and thirty eight days. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three, one hundred and twenty nine days. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two, I think I remember this one one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen days. The last frost was June twelfth. The

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<v Speaker 1>first frost was October eight, but the shortest on record,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do remember this year nineteen ninety two, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighteen days. So the last frost was May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight and the first frost was September twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's less than four months of growing season. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about corn, corn needs something like ninety days, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's fascinating to think about that. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety two. I remember that well because that very

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<v Speaker 1>short growing season and followed one of the worst droughts

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<v Speaker 1>we had in North America, the nineteen eighty eight to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety drought. The drought of nineteen eighty eight ranked

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<v Speaker 1>as the worst drought since the dust Bowl. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember that well. The whole point here to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it up is this that since twenty twelve in

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<v Speaker 1>this area, we've generally experienced one hundred and sixty to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty days.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a huge in it's a full.

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<v Speaker 1>Month, that's amazing. And one hundred and eighty days, of

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<v Speaker 1>course is yeah, six months of growing season. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a big leaf of your imagination if

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<v Speaker 1>you're living in the Midwest or in the North, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're experiencing longer growing seasons where you can enjoy those

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<v Speaker 1>plants outside longer before you have to bring them inside

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<v Speaker 1>then you used to, let's say forty or fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Years yeah, said investment in annuals and vegetables even better, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna put the link at the website Gardeningsimplified on

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<v Speaker 1>air dot com. Thank you Stacey, thank you Rix, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Adrianna, and thanks to you for watching on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>listening on radio and listening to our podcast. Have a

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<v Speaker 1>great week.