WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:07.400 Well whiskey, come and take my pain the moneys. 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:11.919 All ray whiskey. Why think alone when you can drink 3 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:15.519 it all in with Ricochet's Three Whiskey Happy Hour, Join 4 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:19.960 your bartenders, Steve Hayward, John You, and the international Woman 5 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:26.280 of Mystery, Lucretia. 6 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.320 Where they lapps it up it David, ain't you easy 7 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.160 on the shoulder, so tap you gotta give me? 8 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:35.640 Well? Welcome everyone to a very very special edition of 9 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:38.359 the Three Whiskey Happy Hour in our I believe this 10 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:42.439 is our third reiteration of the new and improved three 11 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:46.520 Whiskey Happy Hour, the New Coke, and we are very 12 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:48.920 excited to be here because all of us are just 13 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.119 thrilled to death about all the winning, winning, winning, And 14 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.679 I'm not yet sick of winning, but I'm hardly keeping 15 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.479 up with all the winning every time I turn around. 16 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:00.679 I just got an email from so When saying, did 17 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:05.959 I see that Trump is has tasked a US transportation 18 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:11.599 command with providing C one thirties and SEE one thirty 19 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:19.200 seven's to be used to deport violent illegal criminals because 20 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:20.920 he could do that, right, John, I'm going to ask 21 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:25.599 you this because he declared the border situation and emergency, 22 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.079 and therefore he can he can use his powers as 23 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:32.879 commander in chief to direct the military to do things 24 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:33.920 for him. Is that correct? 25 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.920 So I actually was worried about this because you know, 26 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.120 under the posse comittatis, actor not allowed to use the 27 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.719 military to enforce a law. So I think, like the 28 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:47.319 military can go to the border and stop anyone from 29 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:51.159 crossing it, I don't know whether they can enforce immigration law. 30 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.159 So it's actually a really tough question. So what the 31 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:58.519 Trump people did, and this is where it's it's unbroken ground. 32 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.879 I mean, this has never really come up before. Is Yeah, 33 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.439 he declared not just an emergency at the southern border, 34 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:08.439 remember he did that last time. What he actually declared 35 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:11.759 was an evasion was occurring across the southern border and 36 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:15.000 triggered under his commander in chief power the use of 37 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:19.000 the military. So actually, if you read the order care 38 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:21.680 you know, the journalists, I don't think they've caught on 39 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:26.400 to what's how serious this is. Is Trump has he 40 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:29.319 has not declared war, but he has triggered self defense 41 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.159 on the southern border, and he's actually said that the 42 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.680 immigration waves are laws are kind of suspended across the 43 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.319 southern border, and so if they're suspended, that's why the 44 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:45.680 military can then, right, they're acting as the military take 45 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.479 people and fly them back to where they came from. 46 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:52.879 Before you have such a declaration, you can't actually do 47 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.280 that under the Posse Comittatis Act. So this is a 48 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:57.759 really big deal, right, because this is I think the 49 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:01.960 first time this has happened. And I don't think anyone 50 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:06.680 any I haven't heard anybody watching this, uh understand the 51 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:07.639 significance of it. 52 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:11.639 Well but John, but John, Uh, I mean, first of all, 53 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:14.159 what it means is Trump or someone around him is 54 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:16.560 clearly Listen to those episodes of the Three Whiskey Happy 55 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:19.520 Hour where we were testing in you right, I thought 56 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:21.199 you were. I got to beat you to it, right, 57 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.280 so you got skunked on this point. 58 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:25.879 But I lost. I mean, I'm happy. I don't I 59 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:28.199 don't think there's an invasion going across the southern border. 60 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.360 But the past I know has declared it. You shouldn't 61 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:31.159 double down right now. 62 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:32.800 But bo wait, but John, come up. 63 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:35.159 It'll eventually be tested in court. I'm not sure that's 64 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.639 but but this is really uh, you know, this is 65 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:39.680 of all the things I read in the orders, I 66 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:44.599 think I read all of them. This is the most daring, bold, 67 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:45.800 significant one. 68 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:48.840 Okay, So the interesting thing what you said is you 69 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:52.599 don't think people are paying attention. What they're doing is 70 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.719 silly things like putting pictures out of of poor women 71 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:02.280 crying because they you know, shut down the CPB app 72 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.520 and now they shut it down and all the appointments 73 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.879 are canceled, and they tried to flood the zone with 74 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.960 pictures of these poor people, except people kept pointing out 75 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:17.120 it's Martin Luther King day. They didn't have appointments today anyway, 76 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:19.079 what are you talking about, you know, and things like that. 77 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:24.319 So my point there is that all of their attempts 78 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:28.720 to make all of us mega people feel guilty about 79 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:32.000 deporting illegal immigrants and all the other things that Trump 80 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.600 is actually getting away with doing right now, it's not 81 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:38.720 working because you just pointed out they're really not focusing 82 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.040 on what's important. They're just going with the old playbook. 83 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:44.639 Well, I think, well two thoughts quickly. One, John, I 84 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:46.240 think you ought to be delighted with this, whether you 85 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.879 agree about the conditions on the board or not. It's, 86 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.399 you know, the exertion of executive power that you generally 87 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:55.240 and specifically defend over and over again. Right, okay, But 88 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.199 the second point is to what you both have just said, 89 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.240 is I think what's going on here is Trump is 90 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:02.759 flooding the zone. Maybe you just said that, Lucretia, and 91 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:04.720 by the way, people have been observing and saying this 92 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:07.519 is what's going on. But the left and the Democrats, 93 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.800 but I repeat myself, are simply too undisciplined to figure 94 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.000 out a strategy to cope with it, how to put 95 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.480 a how to do a hierarchy of priorities. That's because 96 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:18.199 the progressive is everything's a priority. So you know, if 97 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:21.120 Trump just did two of these' that's what the press 98 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.920 would be all over instead. I mean, I don't know 99 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.319 if I doubt Elon must thought of this ahead of time, 100 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:28.920 but if he had, what a genius move for him 101 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.000 to give a what what the left run off and 102 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:36.120 say is a Nazi salute, and that's what the media 103 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:38.639 is focusing on on and maybe and meanwhile, Trump he 104 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:39.959 used all these executive orders. 105 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:43.399 This shows how clever you and Lucretia really are, because 106 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.839 of course, you like guard debate on immigration had us 107 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.680 focus a lot of time on birthright citizenship, which doesn't 108 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.319 matter that much in terms of the numbers. But the 109 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:57.319 left is completely focused on birthright citizenship. They're talking about 110 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.519 they've already filed a lawsuit against it. There's going to 111 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.879 for me too. Yeah, there's going to be hearing, I 112 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:04.879 think this week in Washington States. It's been scheduled for. 113 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.879 But that's not the most important issue. It's this triggering 114 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:12.800 of the evasion clause and the deployment of the military 115 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.959 to the border that's as remarkably, way more orders of 116 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:20.800 importance than birthright citizenship. You're right, because the progressors are 117 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.480 not prioritizing things properly. 118 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.759 Well, it's because they can't. But yeah, I mean I think, yeah. 119 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:30.720 I mean, they really are just becoming obsessed by the 120 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:35.560 dumbest things. I mean that stupid bishop thing. Oh I can't. Yeah, 121 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:37.160 I don't think it's fair to call her a woman 122 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:46.399 because anyway, miss at the National oh the Bishop, Well, 123 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:48.480 I mean, so she was out there, she was on 124 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.279 the view, she was on the CNN, she was even 125 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:56.240 talking about as if anybody Trump insaulted her and moved on. 126 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:00.759 But they're going to obsess about this stupid, dumb lesbian 127 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:02.600 bishop for you know. 128 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:07.199 Two quick observations about that, or maybe three one is 129 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.360 I think that she's probably racked with liberal guilt and 130 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:12.360 trying to make up for all those decades when people 131 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:14.959 said the Episcopal Church was the Republican party at prayer. 132 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.120 That used to be the cliche, right, that's long since 133 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:23.480 God second God, well second, literally, I thought she made 134 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.839 a huge blunder by saying, how did she put it? 135 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:31.360 But she betrayed no, no, no, no. She betrayed the 136 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:35.279 sort of paternalism and condescension of the cultural left by saying, 137 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:37.160 you know, these are the people who clean our houses 138 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.800 and stalk our shelves and prepare our food. She's saying, 139 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:45.000 you're threatening our cheap servant class. I mean, I mean, 140 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.000 if you think about that for a minute, what a 141 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:51.560 way to describe this set of human beings. As you know, 142 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.199 the left always says, what you're marginalizing people. What did 143 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.639 she do with those particular characterizations of the people she 144 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:59.959 thinks for being affected by all this? But just said 145 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.600 last thing, you know, the numbers John, this is a 146 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:05.759 general point, and then I'll stop the numbers here. In 147 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.360 the first few days are what during Biden's administration, You're 148 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:12.040 getting ten to twenty thousand people a day apprehended at 149 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:14.600 the border who've never let go in most cases. I 150 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.839 think it's been under a thousand the first forty eight 151 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.199 hours of Trump, which shows, you know what, you can 152 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:23.439 control the border, and you know, it turns out well. 153 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:26.399 But in the view for the under Biden and you know, 154 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:29.000 the conventional wisdom is, well, you know, what can you 155 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:30.680 do to stop then we can't. You know, it's really 156 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.879 not something we can do. It's a microcope. Actually it's 157 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.759 a macrocosm of the super macrocosm, which is the incompetence 158 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:39.679 of modern government. It's a big theme for me right 159 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.240 now for the government's increasingly incompetent and about doing what 160 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:47.200 they should basically do. Control crime, you know, fill the potholes, 161 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:50.320 things of that kind. They're no good at that. But 162 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.399 they're going to control the globes temperature and you know, okay, 163 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:55.279 also stop there. 164 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:58.559 Yeah, I know I don't necessarily disagree to you, but 165 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.600 I have to say that I don't think in this 166 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.960 particular case that's what's necessarily happening. I think that the 167 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.720 Biden administration purposely decided they didn't want to control the border. 168 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:10.960 So it makes it a little bit different. But the 169 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:15.639 thing I talked with you guys before the election, actually 170 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.799 about the concept we were talking about, you know, how 171 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:24.120 you might actually deport all of these what twenty eight million, 172 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.519 thirty million illegal immigrants now in the country, and how 173 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.320 you know it'd be too expensive And that's all we've 174 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:34.320 already seen that. All it takes is you're not welcome here. 175 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.399 And not only do you not see people coming here, 176 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:42.039 you see people leaving. You see people shutting down their 177 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.600 operations that they ran with, you know, impunity before you 178 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:49.399 you And that was my argument that welcome sign. 179 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:52.519 Mitt Romney was right self I could resist. 180 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.679 No, I mean, but Mitt Romney is an idiot. It 181 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:00.279 doesn't count when he says something halfway smart. No, I mean, 182 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.919 he talked about self deportation, but you called it the 183 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:09.840 infelicitous term he used. I don't find anything infelicitous about it. Yeah, 184 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.279 you know, you're not welcome here, you can't work here. 185 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:15.600 If somebody hires you, they're going to be punished. And 186 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:26.559 we fix our broken immigration system. 187 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.440 By one dominating thought, which we don't need all the 188 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:29.320 pieces for. Is this again, this is a political scientist 189 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.679 and historian. The conventional wisdom in second terms for presidents 190 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.279 is when they have trouble and go badly, they run 191 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.279 out of gas and the people are tired and leave. 192 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.600 I think again, the oddity of Trump is that he 193 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:42.799 just as he inverts everything else, I think he has 194 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:46.440 just inverted the typical cycle of presidents. He here's my point. 195 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:49.279 He already had his second term in the first term 196 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:52.960 with you know, you know, unstable staff changes, not sure 197 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.679 what they were doing. It went very well for a while, 198 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:58.000 then COVID came along and wrecked everything and all the 199 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.600 rest of that. This feels like first term, and the 200 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.919 people coming in are much more. It reminds me of 201 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.559 Reagan's first term, when you know, many of the people, 202 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:08.879 not all of them, were really sympatical with what Reagan 203 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:12.240 wanted to do. The appointments at this time around, well, 204 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:14.919 just give you one example. You know, one of Trump's 205 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:18.000 many mistakes going in in twenty seventeen was he listened 206 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:21.320 to the Republican establishment. It was Condoleeza Rice who talked 207 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:25.120 him into appointing what's his name, Derex Tillerson, second terrorist. 208 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:28.360 Right nowadays, he won't call condolly'z A Rice to wish 209 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.720 her a happy birthday, or maybe you know, hey, if 210 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:32.639 I start a football league, would you run it? Maybe 211 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.919 just for fun, but no, he knows better now. He's 212 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.279 not going to appoint a big name just because condolliez 213 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.279 a rise to somebody else says it's a good idea, 214 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:41.960 you know, Madis. I mean I always thought well of Madis. 215 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:43.480 I still do in some ways. But that was a 216 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.679 mistake and he's not doing that this time, right and 217 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:51.440 so and then the speed and the clearly as you 218 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:54.600 mentioned to us, John and the pregame show, they thought 219 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.559 these executive orders out ahead of time and really worked 220 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:01.399 through the language carefully, unlike some of the ones in 221 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.919 January twenty seventeen. They were a little slap dash and 222 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:06.559 lost in court quickly. So this just seems so much 223 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.919 more deliberate. And I'm sitting here thinking he's going to 224 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.240 have a great second term. 225 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:16.840 I think we're overdoing it a little. Maybeah, yeah, I 226 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:19.440 think a lot of a lot of what this is 227 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:21.440 a funny thing. I think a lot of the things 228 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:23.759 that are making you happy is just that he's reversed 229 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:26.759 the Biden years. Yeah, Like just a lot of the 230 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:28.600 orders are just if you look, a lot of the orders, 231 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:30.279 I mean a lot of you know, many of them 232 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.559 are affirmative new orders, but maybe the most important order 233 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.919 was the first order, which reversed something like twenty five 234 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.360 different Biden executive orders and kind of returned the world 235 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:41.840 to where it was in twenty twenty. 236 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.039 Well, actually, John, I I mean, let's pick just one. 237 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:46.720 I didn't want to get off. And you know, a 238 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.279 lot of these could be talked on a great length, 239 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.240 but his reversal of the famous affirmative action Executive Order 240 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.399 eleven two forty six made in nineteen sixty six. Right, 241 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.320 you know, the reagular administration and the second term had 242 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.480 a huge battle ed. Mees and Bill Bennett and several 243 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:06.360 others wanted to rescind it. The rhinos in the cabinet, 244 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:10.960 Elizabeth Dole, of course, Bill Brock and Labor, and I 245 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.000 think the Chief of Staff Don Reagan was a squish 246 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:15.600 on this. They also, oh, we can't do that. And 247 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:17.759 one of the many things the opponents did was get 248 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.480 corporate CEOs to call up Reagan saying, oh, please don't 249 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.679 do this, we really need to have affirmative action. So 250 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:25.840 they up not doing it. So they chickened out in 251 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:28.559 the end, right, and now Trump just said I don't 252 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:33.039 care what you know. I'm doing this thing and it's popular. 253 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:39.159 I mean, yes, no, no, no, John, Let me go back 254 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.679 to what John said, Steve hold On. What he said 255 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:47.360 was that this is merely undoing what Biden had done, 256 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:50.600 as if I know what you're saying by that. But 257 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:55.320 my point is this that the march toward leftist progressive 258 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:58.720 policies and regulations and all of those things has been 259 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:05.720 almost inhibited now since since Roosevelt practically, and that's too 260 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:08.960 strong to say it like that, but this is I mean, 261 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.320 did anybody think two years ago that we would get 262 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:15.159 to the point where I could go in and say 263 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:19.159 I want to fire my DEI professional because to do 264 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.639 to keep him? You know, of course they're changing titles 265 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:28.240 and things like that, but the whole idea that all 266 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.480 that's been turned on its head. Sure somebody can come 267 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.720 in in twenty twenty eight and try to reduce some 268 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.360 of those things, but it's not going to be the 269 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.360 same anymore. That it makes a difference. 270 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:40.559 That's my point is is, yeah, sure a Democrat could 271 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:42.879 come in in twenty twenty nine and say, oh, I'm 272 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:45.960 going to reinstate the Affirmative Action Executive Order, well, yes, 273 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.759 they have the power to do that if nothing changes legislatively, 274 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:52.279 But I think then people will notice and it will 275 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.639 be unpopular, and so that's why I think it won't work. 276 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:58.080 I think you're right, they've changed the ground on all this. 277 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:00.519 And oh, by the way, on the DEA stuff, I 278 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:02.559 want to do an article of this if I can 279 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.320 find time. We know what they're doing. They're changing the 280 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.600 names or moving people around. They're calling it belonging and 281 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.919 advancement or something like that, and so that'll be hard 282 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:15.039 and well, I think they actually dropped that word too. 283 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:17.200 My point is is the whole racket depends on a 284 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.840 common vocabulary of cliches. They won't know what to say. 285 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:23.679 I mean, but the last several years, I've said, you 286 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:27.720 noticed that every statement from a DEI office sounds the same. 287 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:30.840 They use the same sentences, the same cliches. And now 288 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.240 they're going to invent the whole new vocabulary. And if 289 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.600 that becomes too obvious, then you just go after that. 290 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:40.000 I think that it's I mean, they'll try, and I'm 291 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:42.039 not being complacent, but I think it's gonna be funny 292 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:45.639 to watch them bob and weave and it'll just be incoherent. 293 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:49.159 So another thing that, of course I'm thrilled to death about. 294 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.000 And then was more than pleasantly surprised when John sent 295 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:58.240 me his wonderful article from Newsweek Today about the pardons, 296 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.159 which Steve will to in the show notes. Even though 297 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:04.200 I did put it on my Twitter at all, seven 298 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:09.240 of my followers read it and liked it. Actually more 299 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:12.440 than that. But it was a great article. And and 300 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:14.519 part of the reason that it was great, I mean, 301 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.240 you're a partisan, John, You're not as much of a 302 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.600 partisan as I am, of course, but you're a partisan. 303 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:21.399 But you did. You went out of your way in 304 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:23.440 that article. And I guess I shouldn't leave out your 305 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:25.519 your co author, but I don't know him, so I'm 306 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:26.639 just giving you all the credit. 307 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:29.399 I don't think I think John made him up. 308 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:33.799 But anyway, okay, that's fine, that's okay. Then I don't 309 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:36.679 feel bad. But but it was. It was just a 310 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.159 straight up analysis of of the use of the pardon 311 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:45.159 power by Biden, by Trump, and all of the the 312 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:47.600 details that people may or may not have been thinking 313 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:52.279 about that that show how one even if you disagree 314 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.720 ultimately with what would what we call it the substance 315 00:16:55.759 --> 00:17:00.159 of who was pardoned under Trump. Uh, what the way 316 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:02.600 that Trump went about it. The exercise of the power 317 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:07.640 itself was in fact consistent with the Constitution and appropriate, 318 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.480 whereas Biden's I'm going to stop talking because you did 319 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:13.400 a better job. Tell us just a little bit about 320 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:17.039 the conclusion you came to, John, Well. 321 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.519 Yeah, I tried to write it without regard to the 322 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:24.200 individual cases, just the use of the power, and Trump's 323 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:26.880 is much more in keeping with tradition. Or he didn't 324 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:31.359 preempt anybody, and there were no preemptive pardons, right. What 325 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:35.079 he did was he actually waited until after the cases 326 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:37.079 were all prosecuted, and a lot of these people already 327 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:42.440 spent time in jail. And you know, I was trying 328 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:47.000 thing the equivalent of if Trump had followed Biden's example, 329 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:51.119 he should have pardoned all the January sixth defendants on 330 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:55.839 January right in January seventh, twenty twenty one, and never 331 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:59.359 let them be investigative prosecutor. So this idea of using 332 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.000 preemptive part gardens in this mass way, I think is 333 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.960 quite dangerous. So the other thing, the second big difference is, 334 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.599 and I think this is tisen with Steve's point about 335 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.240 the presidency in the election. Is that for good or ill. 336 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.279 Trump campaigned on it, like he went to the American 337 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:16.359 people said, if you elect me, I'm going to pardon all. 338 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:18.640 In fact, people didn't believe me he was going to 339 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:20.960 do it. Even his own vice president didn't believe he 340 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.519 was going to do it, right, but he parted them 341 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:26.039 as well. It's very hard to say that this is 342 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:30.160 an exercise of presidential power that the American people disapproved 343 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:32.000 of because they knew he was going to do it 344 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.720 when they elected him to office. That's also very different 345 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.880 than Biden because Biden told, you know, before the November elections, 346 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:39.720 he said he wasn't going to pardon Hunter. Then he 347 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:42.160 did it. I mean, he actually broke his promise to 348 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:43.000 the American people. 349 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:45.880 Those are two, really, I think. 350 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.079 The butt and the last thing. And this is what 351 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:50.519 Trump's going to have to do now, because this is 352 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.359 just part of the cycle of lawfare that the Biden 353 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:57.880 people started. Is not just he pardoned his family, his 354 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:02.720 political supporters, members of hisministration. I want to blame Trump 355 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:05.480 when he leaves office for Greg doing a mass pardon. 356 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:08.720 For every single person who serves in an administriction now and 357 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.079 every president's going to do that from now on? 358 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:13.480 Do you think that really will happen? Or do you 359 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:17.079 think that maybe there are people who say some of 360 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:21.240 the norms are norms, even if the Biden crime family 361 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:26.640 corruption destroyed those norms. There are some things we just 362 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:28.839 shouldn't do. I mean, I don't think Trump's going to 363 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:32.200 go after his political opponents with the kind of lawfare 364 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:38.519 Biden did, even though that practice was that that norm 365 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:40.640 was broken. I really don't. I don't think he's going 366 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:41.359 to would Trump? 367 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.920 Why would Trump trust Democrats, not just federal ones, but 368 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:48.839 the ones in cities like New York and Atlanta? Why 369 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.319 would he trust them to leave not just him, after 370 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:55.200 the Hospice family and anyone who served in his administration alone, 371 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.039 after what they just did the last four. 372 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:01.440 Years a federal presidential part and wouldn't stop all of 373 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:06.799 those you know, brag and Fanny willis uh corrupt hacks. 374 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:09.759 So you have to I mean, I get what you're. 375 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:11.880 Saying, But can I just say before we move on 376 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.039 to Cretia that John you're the byeline of the article 377 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.079 is John Hu and John Shoe. I don't believe there 378 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:19.039 is a John Shoe. I think that's you under suit 379 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:21.079 in him on the blowback. 380 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:21.319 Right. 381 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:24.000 I've never heard of this guy. I've never seen him. Oh, 382 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:24.799 he's a great guy. 383 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:28.480 He's a lawyer in Orange County. Actually he's a Californian too. 384 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:31.519 Oh okay, likes he likes you know what he's strings. 385 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:32.440 He likes mc ribs. 386 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:36.400 Also, Oh that's why McDonald's. I get it now, and 387 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:37.640 now it all comes clear. 388 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.359 Okay, Well, anyway, I really do encourage our listeners to 389 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:44.319 read it. It's it's got all the excellent arguments you 390 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:46.759 need for in case you come up with somebody like 391 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:51.319 my idiot troll Center Senator Mark Kelly, who says, oh god, 392 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:55.799 this is terrible. I'm the son of two police officers, 393 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:58.519 and I am just I am just you know, the 394 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:00.400 traumatized by what Trump. 395 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:04.000 Yeah, what about the murderer of that that commuted who 396 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.000 killed Yeah, I mean it's. 397 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:14.680 Murdered Ashley Babbitt. Yeah, anyway, yeah, I know, I know. Sorry, Okay, 398 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.039 I'm done with that because we want to move on 399 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.759 to our main topic. Even though I could discuss this 400 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:24.480 with John all Knight. Our main topic today is the 401 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:29.680