WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:08.720 Tay myty. 2 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:13.039 Like you just let me em. 3 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:17.719 Welcome back, World a Blaze. Listeners to episode six, the 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:23.079 Big six zero, recorded on this day, February fifth, twenty 5 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:27.960 twenty five, and this is a This is an evening 6 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:32.479 recording for me and listen before we move on. Before 7 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:37.520 we move on, I have some housekeeping. I finally did it. 8 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:41.240 I completed a website. We have a website for the show. 9 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:48.799 You could find us online at www dot world Ablaze 10 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:55.439 podcast dot com. Again, that's world Ablaze podcast dot com. 11 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:58.560 You have all of our episodes there. There's an option 12 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:01.320 to sign up to join the mailing list. 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Literally spelled stretch Goose one word. 74 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:47.279 You type that into any podcast aggregator or you know 75 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:49.800 browser or whatever, it should pop right up. So if 76 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.600 you go on Apple, Spotify, use good pods, whoever you use, 77 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:55.839 just type stretch Goose in you know, like one word, 78 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.920 or you could do stretch Goose one word in this 79 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.680 space podcast. It'll come right up. He's very good at 80 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:04.079 what he does. Support my brother. Download his podcast, Listen 81 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:05.959 to his podcast for like what I do. You're gonna 82 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.680 like him as well. Now being his birthday, of course, 83 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:12.319 I'm gonna have to pop some bubbly and I'm gonna 84 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.040 pop some champagne from my brother even though he doesn't 85 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:19.240 drink pork bastard. So here I am popping a nice 86 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:22.680 little bottle of mom and I'm going to raise a 87 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.160 glass of my brother. So happy birthday, Manuel. I hope 88 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.480 your entire month is filled with happiness and joy and 89 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.120 at least a few nine holes of golf for you. 90 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:38.240 Mm hmmm. Oh man cheers. And I also want to 91 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:41.639 let everybody know that my brother's actually one of the 92 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:43.959 reasons i'm I'm a podcaster. He got me into it. 93 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.439 I was on his show in the beginning, and so 94 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.240 big shout out to Stretch Goose Stretch Goose podcast, and again, 95 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:58.399 happy birthday to my brother. Manual fonts now on with 96 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:03.079 the show as a say the episode, I wanna admit 97 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:07.240 I can't keep up. Trump is too much. Trump is 98 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:09.879 too much the guys an energizer bunny. I don't know 99 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:12.160 what he's doing. For those who don't know what the 100 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:15.240 energizer bunny is, just type that up in your browser, 101 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:19.519 Google it. It's a yeah, you'll get it. But anyway, 102 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:24.079 he is everywhere. He's like a wrecking ball and a 103 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.120 hammer of justice at the same time. And I know 104 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:31.000 many people out there can't agree with everything he's doing. 105 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.759 There are people who are ecstatic about everything he's doing. 106 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.160 I support Donald Trump. I think he's doing a great 107 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:39.240 job thus far. I do question a few things, though, 108 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:44.839 you know, like I wasn't behind his terriff initiatives at first, 109 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.519 but it seems to be working because nations are caving in. 110 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:50.519 I'm not gonna be able to explain that. I'm not 111 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:54.800 an economist, and most other economists stated that this was 112 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:57.959 a very bad move. But it's working in our favor, 113 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.319 in America's favor anyway somehow. But I'll get to that 114 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:05.000 in a bit. The bigger news that just came out, though, 115 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:08.800 is Trump putting his foot down and stating when he 116 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.040 was having a conference with the old bb Net and 117 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:16.160 Yahoo out in Israel, that he's taken over Gaza. Yeah, 118 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.279 we're gonna we're gonna take it over. We're gonna own 119 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:21.360 it for a while. Apparently we're gonna rebuild it, make 120 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:25.519 it safe, and apparently he wants to find new homes 121 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:30.279 for the Palestinians. The world is up in arms kind 122 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.759 of like, hey, you can't do that. That's that's not right, 123 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.279 that's not right. But funny enough is most of the 124 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:41.720 world who was opposed to any kind of plan for Gaza. 125 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:45.639 For the Palestinians have not done anything thus far to 126 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.040 help the situation or offer solution, but at least not 127 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:53.360 since Let's see, it's been a while. It's just put 128 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:56.680 that way, it's been a while, and so for the 129 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.040 area that nobody wants to take responsibility for. They all 130 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.519 seem very opinion. Didn't have a lot to say about it. 131 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:07.399 And Natan Yahoo's face, his face as Trump just just 132 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.160 dropped this bomb on him, is the best I wish. 133 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:12.839 This part of the show is videos. You can see it. 134 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:16.920 But just do a search for what I'm talking about 135 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:18.920 and you'll find plenty of videos come up. And in fact, 136 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:20.480 I want to play a clip so I want you 137 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:22.839 to hear Donald Trump himself say this. 138 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.439 The only reason the Palestinians want to go back to 139 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.680 Gaza is they have no alternative. It's right now a 140 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:34.440 demolition site. This is just a demolition site. Virtually every 141 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:39.480 building is down. They're living under fallen concrete. That's very 142 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:44.720 dangerous and very precarious. They instead can occupy all of 143 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.440 a beautiful area with homes and safety, and they can 144 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:51.000 live out their lives in peace and harmony, instead of 145 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.720 having to go back and do it again. The US 146 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:56.759 will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do 147 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.720 a job with it too. We'll own it and be 148 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:03.919 responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and 149 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.559 other weapons on the site. Level the site, and get 150 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.399 rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an 151 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.840 economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and 152 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:20.039 housing for the people of the area. Go a real 153 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:23.159 job to something different. Just can't go back. If you 154 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:25.200 go back, it's going to end up the same way 155 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:26.759 it has for one hundred years. 156 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:30.519 Interesting. Interesting, And while many people are up in arms 157 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:32.919 about Trump saying, oh, it's just a land grab and 158 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:36.120 he's just doing this for Israel's benefit and he's going 159 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.360 to end up giving a land back to Israel, there's 160 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:41.120 a lot to unpack in what he said. And he's right. 161 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.559 We can't go back, we can't do what has been done. 162 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.039 It's just going to be the same thing as it 163 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:47.960 has been for the last one hundred years or so. 164 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.039 So he's right in that. He's right in that, and 165 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:54.879 he's right that the Palestinian people, the true Palestinian people, 166 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.320 have a right to live a good life in a 167 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.600 good area, and the only reason that they're going back 168 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.720 nowhere else to go. So that is also true. But 169 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:06.120 is it right for the US to step in and 170 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:07.960 take control of a territory now A lot of people 171 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:09.840 were trying to claim on social media, Oh, it's a 172 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.919 sovereign territory. You can't do that. You can't just step 173 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:16.919 in and take a sovereign territory uncontested. You're just going 174 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.000 to put us back into war. But it's not a 175 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:23.639 sovereign territory. It's an occupied territory. It's been occupied by Israel. 176 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:27.120 It was never a sovereign territory. And I'm not saying 177 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:31.440 this is necessarily the right move, but I think personally 178 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.039 it is an interesting move. It's a move that I 179 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.840 believe had to be made by somebody, somebody who is 180 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:40.159 willing to step up and say, look, we need to 181 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:45.200 squash this. I think what Trump is doing is trying 182 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:49.799 to create a buffer between the chaos between the terrorists, 183 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:54.279 between Hamas the people who are hiding within the Palestinian 184 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:58.960 people and just waging ungodly amounts of war and attacks 185 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:02.519 and missile and everything else you can think against israel 186 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:06.080 I think he's just trying to create a buffer zone. Now, 187 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:09.679 Egypt doesn't want the Palestinians. They've already been very vocal 188 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.559 say hey, we're not taking them, and I get it. 189 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.000 Jordan says, no, we're not taking them. But what's interesting 190 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:19.519 is this, this goes back many, many years. A lot 191 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:23.480 of people are familiar with what's called the two state solution. Well, 192 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:29.679 this has been the two state solution has been how 193 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:33.080 would I say this, It's been both proposed and talked 194 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:36.279 about as far back recorded anyway, as far back as 195 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:40.480 nineteen seventeen. Okay, everybody thinks that the two state solution 196 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:45.039 is basically, you know, something that came up in the 197 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.000 late eighties or the you know, the two thousands. But 198 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:51.080 now this has been going on since nineteen seventeen, and 199 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:55.200 a lot of people think that. Look, everybody, everybody was 200 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:59.679 okay with displacing the Palestinians, okay, when Israel became a 201 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:01.919 nation state in nineteen forty eight. But a lot of 202 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:06.120 people need to realize that nineteen forty six, the two 203 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:10.559 state solution talks came up again. In fact, before that, 204 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:12.840 it was also brought up again in nineteen thirty seven, 205 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:17.240 but nineteen forty six got discussed, was brought to the table. 206 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.679 Nineteen forty seven, it was again brought to the table, okay, 207 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:24.679 And every time this has been brought up, and we 208 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:27.799 also got to point out Israel as well. Both the 209 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.720 Palestinians or who were considered to be the Palatinine people 210 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:35.039 at the time, and Israel, they both were at odds 211 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:38.840 with each other. Neither would want to recognize the other 212 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:44.120 as being a legitimate sovereign nation or nation state. Yes, 213 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:50.120 Israel did not want to recognize Palestine or any piece 214 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.600 of land or sovereign tract of land that would become 215 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:59.200 the domain of the Palestinian people. And in turn, the 216 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:05.080 Palestinians have historically been vehemently against Israel as a nation 217 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.720 and even as a people. And at this point is 218 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:11.759 very clear after all these years, Look, these two people 219 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:14.279 hate each other. There's no love there and I'm not 220 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:17.159 going to sugarcoat this. There's just no way to do it. 221 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:20.639 Israel does not like the Palestinians. Palestinians do not like 222 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:23.840 israelis And there are those that say, no, that's not true. 223 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:27.600 I like israelis, I like Palestinians. It's just a terrorists 224 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:32.720 you know, this is such a convoluted issue that the 225 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:36.200 reality is from the outside looking in, you guys hate 226 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:39.240 each other. Israel and Palestine hate each other. That's just 227 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.720 what it is. Now. As far as far as everything 228 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.679 that's going on, this two state solution against I said, 229 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.399 started kind of back in nineteen seventeen. I was discussed 230 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:51.879 as far back as even fast forward a bit, let's say, 231 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:55.600 nineteen twenty through nineteen twenty three. It was reintroduced with 232 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:59.000 further talks and proposals in nineteen thirty seven, then in 233 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:02.720 nineteen forty seven, in nineteen forty eight, it was then 234 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:06.279 brought up again. Now this is this is years after 235 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:12.080 almost twenty years after the sovereignty of Israel, the nation 236 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:14.480 state of Israel. It was brought up again in nineteen 237 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:18.000 sixty seven. Then then it wasn't done. Nineteen eighty two, 238 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.600 was revisited in two thousand, two thousand and one, two 239 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:27.080 thousand and six, two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, 240 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:33.960 twenty thirteen, two thousand fourteen, and as recently as twenty seventeen. 241 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:37.399 It seemed like the two thousands were it was a 242 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:39.399 time where we were really trying to find a solution 243 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:44.039 for both Israel and the Palestinians, and each and every 244 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:47.080 time rejected, rejected, rejected, And I'm not just gonna blame 245 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:50.120 the Palestinans because it was also the great nation of 246 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:53.360 Israel who was opposed. There were times where like, no, 247 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:55.960 we're not gonna do this, we don't agree with the borders, 248 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.720 or at that time, the borders were set as far 249 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.919 as was going to get what in terms of land, right, 250 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:04.919 but they would say, well, we're not going to recognize 251 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:07.919 Palestine as a sovereign nation. Well, that's not the whole 252 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:09.759 point of the two states solution is so that each 253 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:15.240 people has their own sovereign nation in which they can rule. 254 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:19.039 But Israel was very against it, and in turn Palestine 255 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:22.240 was against any agreement as well that didn't favor them 256 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:29.960 with a massive amount of land. In twenty seventeen, most 257 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.559 of the Palsians were actually for it, but Hama stepped 258 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:37.039 up as the ruling body or government of the Palestinians 259 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:42.080 and they rejected it. They wanted to restructure the agreement 260 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:45.120 to make the borders what it was in the nineteen 261 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:50.639 sixty seven agreement, which basically gave Israel very little, and 262 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.480 at the same time they did not want to recognize 263 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.480 Israel as a sovereign nation, and then we know what 264 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:00.240 happened later. Fast forward twenty twenty three, and then twenty 265 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:02.679 two or twenty three the attacks against Israel on that 266 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:06.720 fateful October where they came in and killed a bunch 267 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:11.039 of people at a concert. And so here we are 268 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.519 in constant conflict. Fast forward to today in February fifth 269 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.759 point twenty five, and America's stepping in and Trump's like, like, 270 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.600 we got to stop this nonsense. And let's be honest. 271 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.919 It's evident that there's never there may never be a solution. 272 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:30.879 The Arab world doesn't want the Palestinians. None of them 273 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:36.399 want to take them in. Jordan's rejecting it, Cutter's rejecting it, 274 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:40.360 everybody's rejecting it. The Egyptians don't want them, but they 275 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:43.360 want the Israelis to deal with them. But nobody else 276 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:46.440 wants to deal with them. But yet all those other nations, 277 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:49.440 Arab nations are standing up and saying America, you're wrong, 278 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.200 you can't do this is not the right way. But 279 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.639 yet nobody in that region wants to step up and help. 280 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.399 They want to keep the Palestinian people a people without 281 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:06.079 a country. Now if we go back, we go back aways. 282 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:09.599 And here's always been the argument. You know, everybody wants 283 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:11.559 to cite Zionism as being the root of the evil, 284 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.880 the root of the problem here. But before, way before 285 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.559 it was a nation state in nineteen forty eight, before 286 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:22.759 Israel became what it is, that land was always was 287 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.559 always for the tribe of Judah. The Jujaan people, and 288 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:31.200 the Judaan people are the people of that land in 289 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.000 which we call Israel today. The palestine Is want to 290 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.240 lay claim to it, but the reality is it was 291 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:40.720 always it always it was always the land of the 292 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.240 of the Jewish people. And in fact, the Ottoman Empire 293 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:49.640 they're the ones. They're the ones who came in and 294 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:53.039 they took over the land that we now know is 295 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:56.200 Israel today and they claimed it to be their own. 296 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:01.200 Under Ottoman rule, they drove out the Jewish people. Now 297 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:05.200 here's where the Palestinians come in. The people who were 298 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.279 considered Palestinian before they were even called Palestinian by the way, 299 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:12.640 they decided that you know what we're going to We're 300 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.119 going to side with the Ottomans here. And what they 301 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.640 did is they kind of made a deal so they 302 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.359 can stay in the land. And when they did that, 303 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:24.359 they took over the homes of all the Jewish people 304 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:27.799 who were ousted and forced out. There was always a 305 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:31.440 small Jewish settlement that was left, but most of them 306 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.839 were displaced throughout Europe, in the Middle East, but most 307 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:39.759 throughout Europe, and the Jews never forgot. Jewish people never forgot, 308 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:43.359 and eventually they came back to take their land. They 309 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:46.279 always had a plan to do so for many years. 310 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.960 So to make the argument that the Palestinians were displaced 311 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:54.839 and it wasn't Jewish land is really bullshit, because it's 312 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:57.640 one thing to be conquered and accept that, but it's 313 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:02.319 another when people are displaced and have a plan and 314 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:05.119 continue to work on taking their land back and never 315 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:08.480 gave up. And that is what the Jewish people did. Now. 316 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.480 Can we feel sorry for the Palestinas who were displaced, Absolutely, 317 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.000 because generations later those were born, they were so far 318 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:19.279 removed from that, from that heinous act that they're innocent 319 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.359 in it. And we can you know, we can agree 320 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:28.759 in that absolutely. But this two state solution, these talks 321 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:31.480 been going back to nineteen seventeen. I mean, let that 322 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:33.880 sink in nineteen seventeen. They've they've been talking about this 323 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:36.480 all the way back to where it led to the 324 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:41.839 belfour Declaration, which was I say nineteen twenty or so 325 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:47.359 somewhere around there. And even in that declaration, the British, 326 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:54.240 who at the time had control of that area, they 327 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:58.240 even had a mandate which they called the Mandate for Palestine. 328 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:04.720 In that agreement they said that there must be a 329 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:08.039 place or home for Israel or for the Jewish people 330 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:12.119 within that land. So even back then it was always 331 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:16.039 stated that within that land that could be contested as 332 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:19.720 being called Palestine or Israel or whatever, the Jewish people 333 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:23.079 should always have a home. And that we also led 334 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:26.440 to other treaties and agreements to where the proposals of 335 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.599 the great land mass of trans Jordan, okay, and that 336 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:33.599 that was part of that mandate for Palestine, and in 337 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:40.400 that trans Jordan, that part of that land, originally they 338 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:44.480 were going to have the ability for Palestinians to be 339 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.559 able to be a part of that as well as Egypt. 340 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.200 There's another that's another story that we can or road 341 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:54.480 that we can go down, but not right now. So basically, 342 00:20:55.119 --> 00:21:00.319 throughout history, even though even though the Jewish people fought 343 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.480 to get their land back, got their land back in 344 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:07.680 nineteen forty eight. Nobody ever forgot about the Palestinian people, 345 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:10.519 but the Palestinian people in the Arab communities would not 346 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:15.160 accept it, and so fast forward there was nothing but 347 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:20.119 constant wars, constant wars to attack and displace the Jewish people, 348 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:26.880 and in turn other nations started turning away the Palestinians 349 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:35.720 and ousting them from their countries. So the Palestinians really 350 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:40.400 got the bad end of all these deals, it seems like. 351 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:44.279 But it's not that. It's not that the world didn't 352 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:49.440 try to give them something, to give them their own land. 353 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:53.680 The problem is they themselves wouldn't accept the agreements. And 354 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:58.319 also and also admittedly even Israel at times are saying, na, na, 355 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.599 screw that. We're not agree to this. We're not going 356 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:03.920 to recognize the Palestinian people, We're not going to recognize 357 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:06.920 their nation state. We don't want them to have a 358 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:12.000 land because they hold that bitterness, that hatred in them 359 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:15.160 from all those years, going back generation and I mean 360 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:18.160 back generation so far removed from who they are now, 361 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:20.680 by the way, but they won't let go. They won't 362 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:23.359 let go of a time when they were displaced from 363 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.519 the land by the Ottoman Empire, and how the then 364 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.759 Palestinian people sided with the Ottoman Empire to help the 365 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:36.559 Ottoman Empire take over that land. Now, I'm kind of 366 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:39.559 giving an overview here. I'm not going very deep. So 367 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:43.400 if you're shaking your head and saying that's not exactly right, 368 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:46.960 you may be right in saying that, because all these 369 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:50.880 events throughout the year are a conversation in and of themselves. 370 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.319 And to be honest, for me to really go through 371 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:56.480 all this, it's going to be a complete podcast series. 372 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:58.519 I mean, there's no way around it. There's just so 373 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:02.400 much going on here. But you know someone's already done that. 374 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:04.960 I still am not gonna rule it out though. This 375 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.240 is an important issue and it needs to be discussed. 376 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:09.640 But let's get back to Trump's statement. Let's get back 377 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:13.920 to America's involvement. I think Trump is saying, yes, we 378 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:18.599 are an ally of Israel, and yes it's wrong what's 379 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:24.160 happening to the Palestinian people, and yes we need to 380 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:29.000 separate these people so they could stop fighting each other. 381 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.240 And I think what he's doing, maybe in his mind, 382 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.079 is I'm gonna create this little buffer. I don't create 383 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:40.680 this buffer. And guess what, Jordan and Egypt, the original 384 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:43.039 agreements from way back, where you're going to take in 385 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:47.400 the Palestinian people, I'm gonna hold you to it. I'm 386 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.039 gonna hold you to it. It's basically like Trump is saying, 387 00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:53.680 these Middle Eastern problems or your problems, and none of 388 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:57.680 you are doing anything or offering a solution to help 389 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:01.079 out here. And yes, I know it's deeper than that. 390 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:04.720 I do, I'm not naive to it, but I'm just 391 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:09.680 I'm just saying that at least the US, at least 392 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:12.960 Trump is trying to come up with a solution. Is 393 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.880 it the and all bell solution? I really don't believe 394 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:21.799 it is. But the US stepping in is a huge statement, 395 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:30.079 a huge statement. Now. Nations, nations around the world, Western 396 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:35.519 powers are vehemently against this. Even France is stepping up. 397 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.000 Of all people quiet France, who never wants to get 398 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.799 involved in anything, never pays their fair share of anything, 399 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:44.400 very similar to Germany, although Germany can't because they don't 400 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:46.880 really officially have a military to get involve in anything anyway. 401 00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:53.279