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Speaker 3: I can't keep up. Trump is too much. Trump is
Speaker 3: too much the guys an energizer bunny. I don't know
Speaker 3: what he's doing. For those who don't know what the
Speaker 3: energizer bunny is, just type that up in your browser,
Speaker 3: Google it. It's a yeah, you'll get it. But anyway,
Speaker 3: he is everywhere. He's like a wrecking ball and a
Speaker 3: hammer of justice at the same time. And I know
Speaker 3: many people out there can't agree with everything he's doing.
Speaker 3: There are people who are ecstatic about everything he's doing.
Speaker 3: I support Donald Trump. I think he's doing a great
Speaker 3: job thus far. I do question a few things, though,
Speaker 3: you know, like I wasn't behind his terriff initiatives at first,
Speaker 3: but it seems to be working because nations are caving in.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be able to explain that. I'm not
Speaker 3: an economist, and most other economists stated that this was
Speaker 3: a very bad move. But it's working in our favor,
Speaker 3: in America's favor anyway somehow. But I'll get to that
Speaker 3: in a bit. The bigger news that just came out, though,
Speaker 3: is Trump putting his foot down and stating when he
Speaker 3: was having a conference with the old bb Net and
Speaker 3: Yahoo out in Israel, that he's taken over Gaza. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna take it over. We're gonna own
Speaker 3: it for a while. Apparently we're gonna rebuild it, make
Speaker 3: it safe, and apparently he wants to find new homes
Speaker 3: for the Palestinians. The world is up in arms kind
Speaker 3: of like, hey, you can't do that. That's that's not right,
Speaker 3: that's not right. But funny enough is most of the
Speaker 3: world who was opposed to any kind of plan for Gaza.
Speaker 3: For the Palestinians have not done anything thus far to
Speaker 3: help the situation or offer solution, but at least not
Speaker 3: since Let's see, it's been a while. It's just put
Speaker 3: that way, it's been a while, and so for the
Speaker 3: area that nobody wants to take responsibility for. They all
Speaker 3: seem very opinion. Didn't have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 3: And Natan Yahoo's face, his face as Trump just just
Speaker 3: dropped this bomb on him, is the best I wish.
Speaker 3: This part of the show is videos. You can see it.
Speaker 3: But just do a search for what I'm talking about
Speaker 3: and you'll find plenty of videos come up. And in fact,
Speaker 3: I want to play a clip so I want you
Speaker 3: to hear Donald Trump himself say this.
Speaker 2: The only reason the Palestinians want to go back to
Speaker 2: Gaza is they have no alternative. It's right now a
Speaker 2: demolition site. This is just a demolition site. Virtually every
Speaker 2: building is down. They're living under fallen concrete. That's very
Speaker 2: dangerous and very precarious. They instead can occupy all of
Speaker 2: a beautiful area with homes and safety, and they can
Speaker 2: live out their lives in peace and harmony, instead of
Speaker 2: having to go back and do it again. The US
Speaker 2: will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do
Speaker 2: a job with it too. We'll own it and be
Speaker 2: responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and
Speaker 2: other weapons on the site. Level the site, and get
Speaker 2: rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an
Speaker 2: economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and
Speaker 2: housing for the people of the area. Go a real
Speaker 2: job to something different. Just can't go back. If you
Speaker 2: go back, it's going to end up the same way
Speaker 2: it has for one hundred years.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting, And while many people are up in arms
Speaker 3: about Trump saying, oh, it's just a land grab and
Speaker 3: he's just doing this for Israel's benefit and he's going
Speaker 3: to end up giving a land back to Israel, there's
Speaker 3: a lot to unpack in what he said. And he's right.
Speaker 3: We can't go back, we can't do what has been done.
Speaker 3: It's just going to be the same thing as it
Speaker 3: has been for the last one hundred years or so.
Speaker 3: So he's right in that. He's right in that, and
Speaker 3: he's right that the Palestinian people, the true Palestinian people,
Speaker 3: have a right to live a good life in a
Speaker 3: good area, and the only reason that they're going back
Speaker 3: nowhere else to go. So that is also true. But
Speaker 3: is it right for the US to step in and
Speaker 3: take control of a territory now A lot of people
Speaker 3: were trying to claim on social media, Oh, it's a
Speaker 3: sovereign territory. You can't do that. You can't just step
Speaker 3: in and take a sovereign territory uncontested. You're just going
Speaker 3: to put us back into war. But it's not a
Speaker 3: sovereign territory. It's an occupied territory. It's been occupied by Israel.
Speaker 3: It was never a sovereign territory. And I'm not saying
Speaker 3: this is necessarily the right move, but I think personally
Speaker 3: it is an interesting move. It's a move that I
Speaker 3: believe had to be made by somebody, somebody who is
Speaker 3: willing to step up and say, look, we need to
Speaker 3: squash this. I think what Trump is doing is trying
Speaker 3: to create a buffer between the chaos between the terrorists,
Speaker 3: between Hamas the people who are hiding within the Palestinian
Speaker 3: people and just waging ungodly amounts of war and attacks
Speaker 3: and missile and everything else you can think against israel
Speaker 3: I think he's just trying to create a buffer zone. Now,
Speaker 3: Egypt doesn't want the Palestinians. They've already been very vocal
Speaker 3: say hey, we're not taking them, and I get it.
Speaker 3: Jordan says, no, we're not taking them. But what's interesting
Speaker 3: is this, this goes back many, many years. A lot
Speaker 3: of people are familiar with what's called the two state solution. Well,
Speaker 3: this has been the two state solution has been how
Speaker 3: would I say this, It's been both proposed and talked
Speaker 3: about as far back recorded anyway, as far back as
Speaker 3: nineteen seventeen. Okay, everybody thinks that the two state solution
Speaker 3: is basically, you know, something that came up in the
Speaker 3: late eighties or the you know, the two thousands. But
Speaker 3: now this has been going on since nineteen seventeen, and
Speaker 3: a lot of people think that. Look, everybody, everybody was
Speaker 3: okay with displacing the Palestinians, okay, when Israel became a
Speaker 3: nation state in nineteen forty eight. But a lot of
Speaker 3: people need to realize that nineteen forty six, the two
Speaker 3: state solution talks came up again. In fact, before that,
Speaker 3: it was also brought up again in nineteen thirty seven,
Speaker 3: but nineteen forty six got discussed, was brought to the table.
Speaker 3: Nineteen forty seven, it was again brought to the table, okay,
Speaker 3: And every time this has been brought up, and we
Speaker 3: also got to point out Israel as well. Both the
Speaker 3: Palestinians or who were considered to be the Palatinine people
Speaker 3: at the time, and Israel, they both were at odds
Speaker 3: with each other. Neither would want to recognize the other
Speaker 3: as being a legitimate sovereign nation or nation state. Yes,
Speaker 3: Israel did not want to recognize Palestine or any piece
Speaker 3: of land or sovereign tract of land that would become
Speaker 3: the domain of the Palestinian people. And in turn, the
Speaker 3: Palestinians have historically been vehemently against Israel as a nation
Speaker 3: and even as a people. And at this point is
Speaker 3: very clear after all these years, Look, these two people
Speaker 3: hate each other. There's no love there and I'm not
Speaker 3: going to sugarcoat this. There's just no way to do it.
Speaker 3: Israel does not like the Palestinians. Palestinians do not like
Speaker 3: israelis And there are those that say, no, that's not true.
Speaker 3: I like israelis, I like Palestinians. It's just a terrorists
Speaker 3: you know, this is such a convoluted issue that the
Speaker 3: reality is from the outside looking in, you guys hate
Speaker 3: each other. Israel and Palestine hate each other. That's just
Speaker 3: what it is. Now. As far as far as everything
Speaker 3: that's going on, this two state solution against I said,
Speaker 3: started kind of back in nineteen seventeen. I was discussed
Speaker 3: as far back as even fast forward a bit, let's say,
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty through nineteen twenty three. It was reintroduced with
Speaker 3: further talks and proposals in nineteen thirty seven, then in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty seven, in nineteen forty eight, it was then
Speaker 3: brought up again. Now this is this is years after
Speaker 3: almost twenty years after the sovereignty of Israel, the nation
Speaker 3: state of Israel. It was brought up again in nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty seven. Then then it wasn't done. Nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 3: was revisited in two thousand, two thousand and one, two
Speaker 3: thousand and six, two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, two thousand fourteen, and as recently as twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: It seemed like the two thousands were it was a
Speaker 3: time where we were really trying to find a solution
Speaker 3: for both Israel and the Palestinians, and each and every
Speaker 3: time rejected, rejected, rejected, And I'm not just gonna blame
Speaker 3: the Palestinans because it was also the great nation of
Speaker 3: Israel who was opposed. There were times where like, no,
Speaker 3: we're not gonna do this, we don't agree with the borders,
Speaker 3: or at that time, the borders were set as far
Speaker 3: as was going to get what in terms of land, right,
Speaker 3: but they would say, well, we're not going to recognize
Speaker 3: Palestine as a sovereign nation. Well, that's not the whole
Speaker 3: point of the two states solution is so that each
Speaker 3: people has their own sovereign nation in which they can rule.
Speaker 3: But Israel was very against it, and in turn Palestine
Speaker 3: was against any agreement as well that didn't favor them
Speaker 3: with a massive amount of land. In twenty seventeen, most
Speaker 3: of the Palsians were actually for it, but Hama stepped
Speaker 3: up as the ruling body or government of the Palestinians
Speaker 3: and they rejected it. They wanted to restructure the agreement
Speaker 3: to make the borders what it was in the nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty seven agreement, which basically gave Israel very little, and
Speaker 3: at the same time they did not want to recognize
Speaker 3: Israel as a sovereign nation, and then we know what
Speaker 3: happened later. Fast forward twenty twenty three, and then twenty
Speaker 3: two or twenty three the attacks against Israel on that
Speaker 3: fateful October where they came in and killed a bunch
Speaker 3: of people at a concert. And so here we are
Speaker 3: in constant conflict. Fast forward to today in February fifth
Speaker 3: point twenty five, and America's stepping in and Trump's like, like,
Speaker 3: we got to stop this nonsense. And let's be honest.
Speaker 3: It's evident that there's never there may never be a solution.
Speaker 3: The Arab world doesn't want the Palestinians. None of them
Speaker 3: want to take them in. Jordan's rejecting it, Cutter's rejecting it,
Speaker 3: everybody's rejecting it. The Egyptians don't want them, but they
Speaker 3: want the Israelis to deal with them. But nobody else
Speaker 3: wants to deal with them. But yet all those other nations,
Speaker 3: Arab nations are standing up and saying America, you're wrong,
Speaker 3: you can't do this is not the right way. But
Speaker 3: yet nobody in that region wants to step up and help.
Speaker 3: They want to keep the Palestinian people a people without
Speaker 3: a country. Now if we go back, we go back aways.
Speaker 3: And here's always been the argument. You know, everybody wants
Speaker 3: to cite Zionism as being the root of the evil,
Speaker 3: the root of the problem here. But before, way before
Speaker 3: it was a nation state in nineteen forty eight, before
Speaker 3: Israel became what it is, that land was always was
Speaker 3: always for the tribe of Judah. The Jujaan people, and
Speaker 3: the Judaan people are the people of that land in
Speaker 3: which we call Israel today. The palestine Is want to
Speaker 3: lay claim to it, but the reality is it was
Speaker 3: always it always it was always the land of the
Speaker 3: of the Jewish people. And in fact, the Ottoman Empire
Speaker 3: they're the ones. They're the ones who came in and
Speaker 3: they took over the land that we now know is
Speaker 3: Israel today and they claimed it to be their own.
Speaker 3: Under Ottoman rule, they drove out the Jewish people. Now
Speaker 3: here's where the Palestinians come in. The people who were
Speaker 3: considered Palestinian before they were even called Palestinian by the way,
Speaker 3: they decided that you know what we're going to We're
Speaker 3: going to side with the Ottomans here. And what they
Speaker 3: did is they kind of made a deal so they
Speaker 3: can stay in the land. And when they did that,
Speaker 3: they took over the homes of all the Jewish people
Speaker 3: who were ousted and forced out. There was always a
Speaker 3: small Jewish settlement that was left, but most of them
Speaker 3: were displaced throughout Europe, in the Middle East, but most
Speaker 3: throughout Europe, and the Jews never forgot. Jewish people never forgot,
Speaker 3: and eventually they came back to take their land. They
Speaker 3: always had a plan to do so for many years.
Speaker 3: So to make the argument that the Palestinians were displaced
Speaker 3: and it wasn't Jewish land is really bullshit, because it's
Speaker 3: one thing to be conquered and accept that, but it's
Speaker 3: another when people are displaced and have a plan and
Speaker 3: continue to work on taking their land back and never
Speaker 3: gave up. And that is what the Jewish people did. Now.
Speaker 3: Can we feel sorry for the Palestinas who were displaced, Absolutely,
Speaker 3: because generations later those were born, they were so far
Speaker 3: removed from that, from that heinous act that they're innocent
Speaker 3: in it. And we can you know, we can agree
Speaker 3: in that absolutely. But this two state solution, these talks
Speaker 3: been going back to nineteen seventeen. I mean, let that
Speaker 3: sink in nineteen seventeen. They've they've been talking about this
Speaker 3: all the way back to where it led to the
Speaker 3: belfour Declaration, which was I say nineteen twenty or so
Speaker 3: somewhere around there. And even in that declaration, the British,
Speaker 3: who at the time had control of that area, they
Speaker 3: even had a mandate which they called the Mandate for Palestine.
Speaker 3: In that agreement they said that there must be a
Speaker 3: place or home for Israel or for the Jewish people
Speaker 3: within that land. So even back then it was always
Speaker 3: stated that within that land that could be contested as
Speaker 3: being called Palestine or Israel or whatever, the Jewish people
Speaker 3: should always have a home. And that we also led
Speaker 3: to other treaties and agreements to where the proposals of
Speaker 3: the great land mass of trans Jordan, okay, and that
Speaker 3: that was part of that mandate for Palestine, and in
Speaker 3: that trans Jordan, that part of that land, originally they
Speaker 3: were going to have the ability for Palestinians to be
Speaker 3: able to be a part of that as well as Egypt.
Speaker 3: There's another that's another story that we can or road
Speaker 3: that we can go down, but not right now. So basically,
Speaker 3: throughout history, even though even though the Jewish people fought
Speaker 3: to get their land back, got their land back in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty eight. Nobody ever forgot about the Palestinian people,
Speaker 3: but the Palestinian people in the Arab communities would not
Speaker 3: accept it, and so fast forward there was nothing but
Speaker 3: constant wars, constant wars to attack and displace the Jewish people,
Speaker 3: and in turn other nations started turning away the Palestinians
Speaker 3: and ousting them from their countries. So the Palestinians really
Speaker 3: got the bad end of all these deals, it seems like.
Speaker 3: But it's not that. It's not that the world didn't
Speaker 3: try to give them something, to give them their own land.
Speaker 3: The problem is they themselves wouldn't accept the agreements. And
Speaker 3: also and also admittedly even Israel at times are saying, na, na,
Speaker 3: screw that. We're not agree to this. We're not going
Speaker 3: to recognize the Palestinian people, We're not going to recognize
Speaker 3: their nation state. We don't want them to have a
Speaker 3: land because they hold that bitterness, that hatred in them
Speaker 3: from all those years, going back generation and I mean
Speaker 3: back generation so far removed from who they are now,
Speaker 3: by the way, but they won't let go. They won't
Speaker 3: let go of a time when they were displaced from
Speaker 3: the land by the Ottoman Empire, and how the then
Speaker 3: Palestinian people sided with the Ottoman Empire to help the
Speaker 3: Ottoman Empire take over that land. Now, I'm kind of
Speaker 3: giving an overview here. I'm not going very deep. So
Speaker 3: if you're shaking your head and saying that's not exactly right,
Speaker 3: you may be right in saying that, because all these
Speaker 3: events throughout the year are a conversation in and of themselves.
Speaker 3: And to be honest, for me to really go through
Speaker 3: all this, it's going to be a complete podcast series.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no way around it. There's just so
Speaker 3: much going on here. But you know someone's already done that.
Speaker 3: I still am not gonna rule it out though. This
Speaker 3: is an important issue and it needs to be discussed.
Speaker 3: But let's get back to Trump's statement. Let's get back
Speaker 3: to America's involvement. I think Trump is saying, yes, we
Speaker 3: are an ally of Israel, and yes it's wrong what's
Speaker 3: happening to the Palestinian people, and yes we need to
Speaker 3: separate these people so they could stop fighting each other.
Speaker 3: And I think what he's doing, maybe in his mind,
Speaker 3: is I'm gonna create this little buffer. I don't create
Speaker 3: this buffer. And guess what, Jordan and Egypt, the original
Speaker 3: agreements from way back, where you're going to take in
Speaker 3: the Palestinian people, I'm gonna hold you to it. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna hold you to it. It's basically like Trump is saying,
Speaker 3: these Middle Eastern problems or your problems, and none of
Speaker 3: you are doing anything or offering a solution to help
Speaker 3: out here. And yes, I know it's deeper than that.
Speaker 3: I do, I'm not naive to it, but I'm just
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that at least the US, at least
Speaker 3: Trump is trying to come up with a solution. Is
Speaker 3: it the and all bell solution? I really don't believe
Speaker 3: it is. But the US stepping in is a huge statement,
Speaker 3: a huge statement. Now. Nations, nations around the world, Western
Speaker 3: powers are vehemently against this. Even France is stepping up.
Speaker 3: Of all people quiet France, who never wants to get
Speaker 3: involved in anything, never pays their fair share of anything,
Speaker 3: very similar to Germany, although Germany can't because they don't
Speaker 3: really officially have a military to get involve in anything anyway.
Speaker 3: But regardless, they're even stepping in. France rejects US President
Speaker 3: Trump's proposal take over the Gaza strip and resettle Palestinians. Now,
Speaker 3: France's opposition is kind of rich, which because if you
Speaker 3: want to go back to the history, they were kind
Speaker 3: of a part of this way back, going back to
Speaker 3: nineteen seventeen. I'm going to get a little help here
Speaker 3: from Britannica online, just because they had the history of
Speaker 3: everything I was looking for on this particular subject just
Speaker 3: right there in front of me. I had to bounce
Speaker 3: around too much. But going back to World War One,
Speaker 3: so the Arabs joined the British against the Ottomans in
Speaker 3: a revolt of nineteen sixteen. In July of nineteen seventeen,
Speaker 3: the army of Prince Faisal ibbin Hussein captured El Akaba,
Speaker 3: and by October nineteen eighteen, Aman and Damascus were in
Speaker 3: Allied hands. In nineteen twenty, the Conference of San Remo
Speaker 3: in Italy created here we go two mandates. One over
Speaker 3: Palestine was given to Great Britain and the other over
Speaker 3: Syria went to France. This act effectively separated the area
Speaker 3: now occupied by Israel and Jordan from that of Syria.
Speaker 3: In November of nineteen twenty, Abdullah, Faisal's brother arrived with
Speaker 3: two thousand armed supporters in downtown, gathering together tribes to
Speaker 3: attack the French who forced Here we go, The French
Speaker 3: forced Faisal to relinquish his newly founded kingdom in Syria.
Speaker 3: So the French, the French wanted to take control of Syria,
Speaker 3: keep control of Syria. They didn't want the people of
Speaker 3: Syria to even rule themselves. And this is again this
Speaker 3: is nineteen twenty now, okay, And so the French were
Speaker 3: causing a lot of trouble at a time when Britain
Speaker 3: was trying to come up with the two state solution,
Speaker 3: which wasn't exactly called a two state solution, but even
Speaker 3: then they were trying to come with a two state solution.
Speaker 3: Now again part of this mandate that I'm discussing right now,
Speaker 3: where the French were involved, This is where Britain said
Speaker 3: that the israel people will always have a home within
Speaker 3: what they were called calling Palestine at that time, within
Speaker 3: this agreement, but the Palestinas didn't want that. But anyway,
Speaker 3: getting back to the French, so the French, instead of
Speaker 3: trying to keep the peace, they tried to keep control,
Speaker 3: go to war with Syria, and British had a step
Speaker 3: in smack them in the face and go, look, we're
Speaker 3: taking it from you. So British ended up taking control
Speaker 3: and kicking the French out of the picture. So France,
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're pose. You're putting your foot down and
Speaker 3: saying what America is doing wrong? But you know you
Speaker 3: didn't really do anything to help way back in nineteen
Speaker 3: seventeen or nineteen twenty. Fast forward, all these years you
Speaker 3: still haven't done anything. So how about you just shut
Speaker 3: your mouth. So it's important that even with everything I'm
Speaker 3: telling you, it's not all inclusive. This isn't every single
Speaker 3: little tiny detail. There was a lot going on in
Speaker 3: each proposal, agreement throughout the years, going back to nineteen sixteen,
Speaker 3: nineteen seventeen, all the way to twenty seventeen, all the
Speaker 3: way today. And I'm not sure we're ever going to
Speaker 3: come up with a solution for Israel and Palestine. I
Speaker 3: really don't. But Trump's actions are an attempt to try
Speaker 3: to do something to rebuild the area, to get rid
Speaker 3: of the bombs, to start over, create economic wealth and
Speaker 3: sustainability in the area for the people of the area.
Speaker 3: Now what does that actually mean for Palestinian people? I
Speaker 3: don't know if Trump is intending to give that area
Speaker 3: back to the Palestinians or if he wants to keep
Speaker 3: it as a buffer zone between the terrorists who hide
Speaker 3: among the Palestinian people and Israel. That very well may
Speaker 3: be the case. But I thought it'd be important for
Speaker 3: me to discuss this on this episode because there's a
Speaker 3: lot of there's a lot of theories out there. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of people that don't understand the history, and
Speaker 3: even I don't have the full understanding of the entire history,
Speaker 3: but I've done a lot of research on this, by
Speaker 3: the way. In fact, I was going to dedicate quite
Speaker 3: a few episodes to it until I heard a few
Speaker 3: other podcasters already do it, and I was just like,
Speaker 3: you know, well, the information is already out there. But
Speaker 3: then again, you know, maybe you listening haven't heard those
Speaker 3: particular podcasts, which means maybe I should revisit this particular
Speaker 3: topic and go over it in more detail and in
Speaker 3: more depth. Now in other news, other news, did the
Speaker 3: tariffs work? See Trump's coming up with even more solutions?
Speaker 3: And everybody was opposed to Trump just slapping tariffs and everybody,
Speaker 3: I mean terrafs for Mexico, terrists for Canada, terras for Columbia,
Speaker 3: terrorists for the EU, terrorists for China. In fact, he
Speaker 3: proposed a twenty five percent tariff on Canada, twenty five
Speaker 3: percent tariffs on Mexico, and ten percent tariffs in China.
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure what he was doing with the EU,
Speaker 3: but everybody was like, you can't do this, this is suicide.
Speaker 3: You're cutting off all your allies. Why would you do this? Why?
Speaker 3: Why Trump? Why you're insane, You're crazy. Well fast forward
Speaker 3: and Mexico is complying. And in fact, justin Trudeau with
Speaker 3: all his bravado and his boisterous speeches and what he's
Speaker 3: going to do to stand up to Trump and impose,
Speaker 3: if you do twenty five percent, I'm going to do
Speaker 3: fifty percent, and if you do fifty percent, I'm gona
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. And in the and Trudeau caved and
Speaker 3: did nothing. In fact, Trudeau, but before he caved, he
Speaker 3: made this statement.
Speaker 1: Tonight, I am announcing Canada will be responding to the
Speaker 1: US trade action with twenty five percent tariffs against one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five billion dollars worth of American goods.
Speaker 1: This will include immediate tariffs on thirty billion dollars worth
Speaker 1: of goods as of Tuesday, followed by further tariffs on
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five billion dollars worth of American
Speaker 1: products in twenty one day's time to allow Canadian companies
Speaker 1: and supply chains to seek to find alternatives.
Speaker 3: Way to stand your ground, Trudeau, Way to stand to ground.
Speaker 3: That's right, you put your foot down. You tell big
Speaker 3: bad America and big bad Trump what you're going to
Speaker 3: do to us. You're going to impose tariffs too. And
Speaker 3: so response Trump goes great there, justin so get this
Speaker 3: February first, that's a Saturday, right, Yeah, tariff's going to
Speaker 3: effect tomorrow. They're going to effect. Yeah. Whatever. In response,
Speaker 3: February second, the Canadian dollar tanked. In fact, it went
Speaker 3: down to be a value of only sixty eight cents
Speaker 3: to one US dollar. Good call, Trudeau, good call. And
Speaker 3: so this is a lesson that we didn't expect to
Speaker 3: learn here. Tariffs, for the most part, shouldn't work in
Speaker 3: today's times, in today's global economic market. It should not
Speaker 3: work because it's really seen as protectionism, which is exactly
Speaker 3: what Trump is you using it for to protect our
Speaker 3: own markets, our own goods, you know, made in the
Speaker 3: USA all that, and many people said that we would
Speaker 3: be shut off. AUS did isolated, but Mexico caved and Trudeau,
Speaker 3: with all of his bravado, has caved. In fact, here's
Speaker 3: a clip of Trudeau responding to the tariffs that Trump
Speaker 3: was imposing the next day, that February first, that Saturday.
Speaker 1: I had a good call with Donald Trump last night. Again,
Speaker 1: we obviously talked about laiding out the facts, talking about
Speaker 1: how the intense and effective connections between our two countries
Speaker 1: flow back and forth. We talked about some of the
Speaker 1: challenges that we can work on together.
Speaker 3: It was a good call. It's okay, And so fast forward.
Speaker 3: He had this to say. I believe this was released
Speaker 3: on February third, so basically after the weekend, and everything
Speaker 3: didn't go so well for him. This's what Trudeau said,
Speaker 3: and he put this on X. It's funny how all
Speaker 3: the politicians and world leaders are communicating to the world
Speaker 3: through X. It's amazing times. He would never see this before. Okay,
Speaker 3: justin here's what he says. He said, I just had
Speaker 3: a good call with President Trump. Canada is implementing our
Speaker 3: one point three billion dollar border plan, reinforcing the border
Speaker 3: with new choppers, technology and personnel, enhanced coordination with our
Speaker 3: American partners, and increased resources to stop the flow of fentanyl.
Speaker 3: Nearly ten thousand frontline personnel are and will be working
Speaker 3: on protecting the border. And well, that is very funny
Speaker 3: because Trudeau was stamping his feet before telling Trump the
Speaker 3: border's not our problem. We do what we protect our side.
Speaker 3: Your side's your problem. Fentanyl's not our issue. And after
Speaker 3: your Canadian dollar tanked and realized that you couldn't keep
Speaker 3: up with the economic power and weight of the US market,
Speaker 3: that you are now going to be compliant and work
Speaker 3: together with the US to secure the Canadian border. Interesting.
Speaker 3: Trudeau also went out to say, in addition, Canada is
Speaker 3: making a new commitment to appoint a fentanyl czar. We
Speaker 3: will list cartels as terrorists, which is right in line
Speaker 3: with what Trump just did. Trudeau said they will also
Speaker 3: ensure twenty four to seven eyes on the border, launch
Speaker 3: a Canada US joint strike force to combat organized crime,
Speaker 3: fentanyl and money laundering. He also states, I have also
Speaker 3: signed a new intelligence directive on organized crime and fentanyl
Speaker 3: and we will be backing it with two hundred million
Speaker 3: dollars proposed tariffs will be paused for at least thirty
Speaker 3: days while we work together. Of course, they're going to
Speaker 3: be paused. Justin Trump also agreed to pause it for
Speaker 3: three days. You see, this was a negotiation tactic that
Speaker 3: somehow Trump made work. Even the EU when when when
Speaker 3: Trump said he's going to post tariffs on the EU,
Speaker 3: even they were at first stamp in their feet and saying,
Speaker 3: this is ridiculous. How can you do this to your allies?
Speaker 3: And then even they decided, you know, maybe we should
Speaker 3: rethink this. How about we just work out a deal
Speaker 3: with Trump over there, how about we just do that.
Speaker 3: Columbia folded. They were going to impose tariffs on the
Speaker 3: US for the USA, and I will impose tariffs and
Speaker 3: in addition other things because they wouldn't take their own
Speaker 3: citizens back when they were being deported from the US.
Speaker 3: And Columbia folded, Mexico folded, even the EU said, what
Speaker 3: works on out? The only people that didn't fold, of course,
Speaker 3: is China. If we already knew China wouldn't. In fact,
Speaker 3: they said that they're going to impose even higher tariffs
Speaker 3: on natural gas and clothing and blah blah blah whatever
Speaker 3: but we can deal with China later. And you know,
Speaker 3: in addition, since I just brought up China, the pressures
Speaker 3: that Trump put on Panama on Panama with tariffs and
Speaker 3: again other actions and the things he wanted to impose,
Speaker 3: Panama backed out of the deal with China for the
Speaker 3: pan Canal, just back down. Knama decided, no, it's better
Speaker 3: for us to decide with the USA. So let's call
Speaker 3: Trump crazy, because we all know he kind of is.
Speaker 3: He's a wild card. But somehow his crazy is working
Speaker 3: in a positive way for the United States. And somehow
Speaker 3: these other nations are seeing the light and realizing we
Speaker 3: can't oppose the US. It's better to work with the US.
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure what lesson I have for you
Speaker 3: and all this, other than maybe I don't have a lesson.
Speaker 3: Maybe I just don't. Maybe I'm just surprised, as all
Speaker 3: of you are. I didn't think any of this would work.
Speaker 3: I didn't think. I thought Trump's terriff initiative honestly were crazy.
Speaker 3: I literally did. I didn't think they would work. But
Speaker 3: here we are proven wrong again by Trump's Dare I
Speaker 3: say genius, I'm not quite sure he really is a genus.
Speaker 3: But damn it, somehow he just keeps winning. Well, thank
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