Speaker 1: And changed my.
Speaker 2: It's too late. You can't change it now. Hello ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Getmicked. Maybe our
Speaker 2: longest break ever since we've been doing the two a month. Obviously,
Speaker 2: when we did once a month, there was but this
Speaker 2: was a longer break. Lots of stuff, Halloween happened, we
Speaker 2: had extra life, so we apologize in that half s Bubs,
Speaker 2: he's taking another longer break. He's gone. I'm looking at
Speaker 2: any nightmare of Tresta. I'm joined by the red dead
Speaker 2: hangman David. How's it going today, sir?
Speaker 3: So far, so good.
Speaker 4: Just getting geared up for America Thanksgiving. So I had
Speaker 4: to do a whole lot of shopping because the nice
Speaker 4: lady at Walmart towed me get everything that I need
Speaker 4: now because Thursday they will not be open and don't
Speaker 4: even attempt to show up.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we had that for obviously, King Anything's in October.
Speaker 2: And the pumpkin pies at Costco. They are like the
Speaker 2: highest drugs on the streets. It is hard to acquire.
Speaker 2: And we had to be there like half like forty
Speaker 2: five minutes before they opened and then they sold. After
Speaker 2: ten minutes, those pies were gone. You would think, like
Speaker 2: pumpkin pies, do a bunch and they literally go no
Speaker 2: because we.
Speaker 5: Use all the ingredients, so they're going to be gone
Speaker 5: until the next day.
Speaker 2: So it is tough to get some stuff when it
Speaker 2: comes to Thanksgiving time, you know, But that's the way
Speaker 2: it is sometimes. So let's see maybe he's back this time.
Speaker 2: Let's see if he is.
Speaker 6: S Bubs and I had it out because I really
Speaker 6: wanted to log into to use my backgrounds because I
Speaker 6: made I made a background specifically for today.
Speaker 1: I was up yesterday making and I need to use
Speaker 1: it enough.
Speaker 2: Why have you taken this slide against hang Man? You
Speaker 2: know he's a good guy, he's a father, he works hard.
Speaker 2: Some people would call him the Ace of AW s Bubs.
Speaker 2: But now you made your mission to meme upon this man,
Speaker 2: celebrate when a lot of AW fans are down, which
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about after last night, and you're just
Speaker 2: rubbing in their faces with now Joe, you you went
Speaker 2: from one Joe to another or wait, no, John, I
Speaker 2: guess but you know, so okay, I'll let load and
Speaker 2: then you can make your statement of what why you
Speaker 2: hate hang Man?
Speaker 1: Pay half Travis Scott half Hook.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, oh, I don't like that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, unacceptable.
Speaker 2: Damn hook.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna get there.
Speaker 2: So what we're gonna do, we'll get some slots on
Speaker 2: after we're gonna do the So it's our last draft shakeup, right,
Speaker 2: this is our last one for the year. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 2: so we do have one more before rumble, right, is
Speaker 2: that it?
Speaker 5: Okay? So it's just for the year, So it's our
Speaker 5: we're over the halfway home.
Speaker 2: So obviously for WW we've all drafted ten people and
Speaker 2: one job or we're gonna go down the list and
Speaker 2: we're gonna do some drops. We're gonna do that first
Speaker 2: because usually on shake up days we like to do
Speaker 2: that first, so we're not spoiling thoughts or holding anything back.
Speaker 2: So we'll do that because we're already doing w B
Speaker 2: will transition to Survives your survivors predictions, and then we'll
Speaker 2: talk about full gear and maybe just not much Continental Classic,
Speaker 2: but at least what we know, maybe some early predictions
Speaker 2: and what's going on there. So yeah, that's what we're
Speaker 2: gonna be doing today. We will not this month, but
Speaker 2: next month we will be back with GMO. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get back to that I know we got some catching
Speaker 2: up to do, so we probably have to finish the
Speaker 2: season before twenty six comes out. We'll probably have a
Speaker 2: couple months where we'll do two together, but that's okay.
Speaker 2: December or an especially January February, we'll get a lot
Speaker 2: more quiet, so we'll catch up there and then yeah,
Speaker 2: and then again, just a big thank you David for
Speaker 2: hosting the Marvel Trivia Extra Life and smub Thinks for
Speaker 2: being my team and holding it down. You got some
Speaker 2: you got some deep cut questions there, which was good,
Speaker 2: especially the Defenders one.
Speaker 7: I could not believe I got a shows I like
Speaker 7: did it one and it was all from stuff like
Speaker 7: I remember through like YouTube Channe Yeah, like the Doom
Speaker 7: Patrol one, Like I haven't seen Doom Patrol, but everyone
Speaker 7: clost to that scene.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I wouldn't if people can go back because
Speaker 2: he had David hosted the Marvel Trip I would never
Speaker 2: gone on. It was like the what references and defenders
Speaker 2: are there to the Avengers? David asked, I would have
Speaker 2: gone the Avengers because every single Netflix show mentions like
Speaker 2: the Event or what out of New York.
Speaker 5: But I would not have gone the Pomination haulk fight.
Speaker 7: Yeah from like Agents of Shield because Agents fiealed like
Speaker 7: they would only reference like like the first like like
Speaker 7: fa yes.
Speaker 2: It's like they were stuck there forever, you know. But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: that was a good time. So again, thank you guys
Speaker 2: for doing that. And yeah, luckily our team obviously not David,
Speaker 2: there're no collusion here because he also hosts Marvel Alliance
Speaker 2: with Chris, so it's absolutely fair, no collusion here. Our
Speaker 2: our team got the win by one point though, so
Speaker 2: it was super it was super close. So we'll see
Speaker 2: if we run back next year. But currently, right now,
Speaker 2: I'll pull up do you have the points? I have
Speaker 2: the rosters, but do you have the points? Okay, what
Speaker 2: are the points right now? For the draft if people
Speaker 2: don't know, we get the superstars and we base it
Speaker 2: off of main events wins, title wins.
Speaker 5: Losses, all that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: If it works very much like a fantasy football draft,
Speaker 2: and that's what we do throughout the year. But our
Speaker 2: calendar ends at elimination Chamber because we started the pod
Speaker 2: Guess right before WrestleMania, so that's why Chamber is our
Speaker 2: finale somehow.
Speaker 7: But uh well, it's like Chamber is the finale and
Speaker 7: then well it's really more that Wrestleingia is the start
Speaker 7: of Yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what we said that points wise?
Speaker 7: Okay, So David is at five hundred and sixteen points. Okay, uh,
Speaker 7: I am at seven hundred and thirty six points, and
Speaker 7: Travis is in first place with seven hundred and ninety
Speaker 7: six points.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got a nice, nice little lead there. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll take that. So and then what we're doing today
Speaker 2: is everybody's gonna drop uh, well not everybody, don't have to.
Speaker 2: I guess what we can do is though you can
Speaker 2: drop one of your spots and film them.
Speaker 5: Obviously we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Be going uh in the is the draft order the
Speaker 2: way we have it here like the SPOS draft? David?
Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
Speaker 1: I think it was now I feel like we always
Speaker 1: do by like like last person most points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. We'll give David, because David,
Speaker 2: we were talking about this off air Bianca just throughout
Speaker 2: the year, giving you the biggest goose egg of all time.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the other person I'm dropping. Yeah, I'm making
Speaker 2: a lot of changes here today. So David, are you
Speaker 2: We'll let you go up first. We'll go David Spobs
Speaker 2: and myself.
Speaker 1: David, everyone announced their drops if.
Speaker 7: You have them right, Yeah, we'll do drops first to
Speaker 7: people to draft them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So David currently has Cody Rhoades, Beyonca bell Air,
Speaker 2: Sephanie Vakir, Chelsea Green, lle Knight, Bronson Reed, Tiffany Strand,
Speaker 2: Jay Cargil, Finnbaler, Montese Ford, and Carmelo Hayes is his
Speaker 2: jobber of the year, you know, currently in the Last
Speaker 2: Time Tournament gotta win.
Speaker 5: So, David, who are you going to be.
Speaker 2: Dropping from your list of anybody.
Speaker 4: I am going to be dropping from my list Montese
Speaker 4: Ford and Beyonca bell Air. Sorry the husband and wife team. Man,
Speaker 4: you're you're you're getting dropped.
Speaker 2: And you're still keeping Carmelo as the job or hey,
Speaker 2: you know where he's gonna win that Last Time tournament?
Speaker 2: Want to beat Sina new Icy Champ.
Speaker 4: You know he's he's headed for the run of his life.
Speaker 4: Or they just needed an excuse, not because they realize that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we booked Bronson in this last uh this match
Speaker 4: over here, but we also booked him in this match
Speaker 4: over here, so we have to take him out of
Speaker 4: one of these.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was uh yeah, I I I will
Speaker 2: get there. I was not a fan of the camp.
Speaker 2: Just let the guy pin him. Let's like, let just
Speaker 2: do a roll up, just do a classic roll up.
Speaker 2: Cody punches him like because obviously it's cheating. So he's
Speaker 2: gonna get the win there. But now between then and
Speaker 2: the six seven, I don't know what's happened to my
Speaker 2: boy right now. But and then currently, so subs has
Speaker 2: John Cena, Gunther, Penta, Eo Sky, naomis almost annoyingly Scott
Speaker 2: not the actress, just Naomi see him, Punk Ranger, Julia Phoenix,
Speaker 2: renee A roxxandperors Nathan Frazier and his jobber of the
Speaker 2: You're right now is Solo Sicle, who's also successfully moving
Speaker 2: forward into the Last Time tournament.
Speaker 5: So Sub's you're making any drops there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, well I have three.
Speaker 7: I'm definitely gonna drop, and then the others I'm like
Speaker 7: sort of split on, but I'll decide by the end
Speaker 7: of my segment here. So I'm dropping Solo for sure.
Speaker 7: I'm dropping Nathan Fraser, Phoenix and Naoi Phoenix.
Speaker 2: I can't believe, like I know, people like to you know,
Speaker 2: always spin on Dave Meltzer. But Dave's right in this say,
Speaker 2: since that Phoenix should have stayed. Aw you, I know
Speaker 2: his brother's there and they're waiting for that tag team run,
Speaker 2: but now that they're doing it in triple A, it's
Speaker 2: like he doesn't even get the pent to rub on
Speaker 2: the main roster. It's it's like, I do think Phoenix
Speaker 2: probably should have stayed, but obviously it's it's twenty twenty, right,
Speaker 2: But I have I.
Speaker 1: Have a few more. I think I'm.
Speaker 7: Because there's two it's like, you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 7: I'm gonna drop Julia as well. And then I had
Speaker 7: two owners. I was like half splint on, but the
Speaker 7: more I think about it, I think.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep.
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. Okay, So I got a lot
Speaker 2: going on injury wise. I got Seth injured. I got
Speaker 2: uh Liv Morgan semi still injured. I know she could
Speaker 2: come back, but it's just like when is that gonna
Speaker 2: come back? I don't know. And then I got Jordan
Speaker 2: Grace who's just injured my roster. She's not injured, but
Speaker 2: she's goddamn reports and whatnot. So so obviously I'm gonna
Speaker 2: drop Seth for sure, because obviously if there's some chance
Speaker 2: he makes a John Cena run and return at the WrestleMania, great,
Speaker 2: if it's rumbled and sure, then maybe I miss out
Speaker 2: and they give him the big rub.
Speaker 5: But I don't think so. I think when the Mountain
Speaker 5: Times Set's.
Speaker 2: Been injured, they're gonna take it slower, and I feel
Speaker 2: like it works better for him to return after WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: I think it's just mess if he comes back at Madia,
Speaker 2: but you never know, and then it's Jordan Grace.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm getting rid of her.
Speaker 2: I know she could come up, but fuck, she's gonna
Speaker 2: win the TEENA title like ten more times. Yeah, tomorrow,
Speaker 2: she'll show up on Monday at Raw. She'll beat U
Speaker 2: who's the current world champion right now. For the women
Speaker 2: on it should be Stephanie. Yeah, she'll be Maxine and
Speaker 2: aunt Stephanie. They'll do a they'll do a WrestleMania two
Speaker 2: thousand when they did I'm not sure if he ever
Speaker 2: heard or seen this match Spubs. When it was Kurt Angle,
Speaker 2: he had the Intercontinental and the European title. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: defended against Jericho and Ben Waugh. Whoever won the first
Speaker 2: fall got the European Tell second fall ic that's gonna happen,
Speaker 2: and Jordan Grace is gonna win both more and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be all salty. And then I have someone like
Speaker 2: Lyra that I think I'm gonna keep. I know she
Speaker 2: wrestles on RAW. I just we'll talk about when we
Speaker 2: get the War Games Man, just like the fall off
Speaker 2: of like not I won't say her, but especially Bailey Bailey.
Speaker 2: They're doing like this all star women's team match and
Speaker 2: it's just like she's nowhere to be seen.
Speaker 5: It's just kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: So I'm not picking Bailey, but Lyra I'll keep because
Speaker 2: obviously Matt, she can challenge for the Icy title. They
Speaker 2: could do some other stuff around there, So I think
Speaker 2: I'll keep her for now. I'm just back and forth
Speaker 2: on lift because it's just because if she's legitimately back
Speaker 2: early twenty twenty six for me, she'll be in Rumble
Speaker 2: and she'll be in Chamber for sure, and those are
Speaker 2: two big events for me. But it's just like you
Speaker 2: never know, So I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna take a
Speaker 2: gamble and I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 1: If she was filming like.
Speaker 5: The Baniads and stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, like.
Speaker 1: They didn't put beyonc and that. Oh no, like a
Speaker 1: top star.
Speaker 2: She would be in the Yeah, okay, and I guess, oh,
Speaker 2: here's the other person. I'm gonna drop autoin theory because
Speaker 2: I guess like it's a good like it's not awful
Speaker 2: because he's not there winning and getting me like negative points.
Speaker 2: But he also is not getting me any points because
Speaker 2: he's not even on TV. So I'm gonna drop him
Speaker 2: right now. Maybe you don't picks them. I'll get him
Speaker 2: back in at some point, but I think I have
Speaker 2: a couple of jobbers that I would prefer to have there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Austin Theory, Uh see you later.
Speaker 1: So uh Seth Jordan and Theory. Yeah right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I dropped Frasier, Phoenix, Julia, Naomi and Solo geez yeah
Speaker 1: if someone really wants of course.
Speaker 7: And then David dropped Montes and Bianca.
Speaker 1: Did you keep Carmela Hayes as the job.
Speaker 2: Right he did? Yes? Okay, So David is two, I
Speaker 2: have two in a job or and then spos you
Speaker 2: have like three in a job right, three?
Speaker 1: Four and a jar?
Speaker 2: Oh so you got five packs Okay, there we go.
Speaker 2: So but David, the floor is yours. Who are you
Speaker 2: adding to your roster? You get two slots, so you
Speaker 2: just pick your first one out. But who you adding
Speaker 2: up the bat?
Speaker 4: My first edition is gonna be mister Ilia Dragonoff.
Speaker 2: Oh you bastard, can alright? You do that? You He's
Speaker 2: definitely not my list at all. All rights, bubs?
Speaker 6: Who you?
Speaker 2: Who you bring up the bat?
Speaker 7: I mean I've been saying it, like I said, he's
Speaker 7: gonna win me this draft.
Speaker 1: I'm going right away Chris Jericho.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, I guess because there's a good chance
Speaker 2: he could be at.
Speaker 1: The run three hundred points he doesn't win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right that if Jericho debut. Now, the only
Speaker 2: thing that was because it's a it's an unannounced debut, right.
Speaker 1: I think it's just legend return.
Speaker 2: Legend return.
Speaker 8: Okay, so so I haven't end yet Legend return or
Speaker 8: like ww debut only once per person and must wrestle
Speaker 8: a match.
Speaker 2: Yeah that were well, hopefully Jericho's just there for talking
Speaker 2: to Jericho, that's my only or like the highlight reel, right.
Speaker 1: He's joining under podcast.
Speaker 4: He could they in a whole podcast network, but special
Speaker 4: WrestleMania guest host christ Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man. I wish Dwayne was ready to make
Speaker 2: that return, and I missed out on the Brock points
Speaker 2: even though I don't want to Brock on the roster.
Speaker 2: But uh, I'm gonna pick h Let's take a look here.
Speaker 2: I have someone i'd prefer to pick right now, but
Speaker 2: I feel like he'll get some stuff going on right now,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna I'm gonna take Drew McIntyre. I think
Speaker 2: at least I should get some like I imagine the
Speaker 2: men will main event, the men war games, like they're
Speaker 2: not gonna let the women main event. I don't know
Speaker 2: why more interested than that, but that's fine. And then
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be in chamber and rumble. I don't
Speaker 2: think he's winning any of those because I may as
Speaker 2: well just put him in job or the year. But maybe,
Speaker 2: just maybe if we don't, because also there may have
Speaker 2: plans have changed. Maybe if they are gonna do Cody
Speaker 2: and Randy, maybe what we've pitched before and what I
Speaker 2: was supped to talk about that maybe still there's a
Speaker 2: chance Drew could win it. But like again, we didn't
Speaker 2: review Sarah's main event. I don't know Drew has lost
Speaker 2: just way too much, and uh, but I do think
Speaker 2: at least he's gonna appear in big stuff and I
Speaker 2: get those main event stuff or rumbles or like even
Speaker 2: then we get like points per elimination rumble, right, so
Speaker 2: it's like he usually throws a good amount of people.
Speaker 2: So True is just a good guy to have him,
Speaker 2: you know, my face across that. Maybe he does. Cody
Speaker 2: drops it to him once there. So that's that's my
Speaker 2: first pick up. So Dave inspect you for your uh,
Speaker 2: your final pick?
Speaker 4: All right, uh, my final pick. God, I got two
Speaker 4: that I'm I'm thinking about here. One is a good
Speaker 4: reliable the next one is the future of the business.
Speaker 4: You know what I think I am going to go
Speaker 4: with the future of the business. I am going to
Speaker 4: pick up Dirty Dumb mystereo.
Speaker 2: Damn it, I had him coming up next. That's a
Speaker 2: good one.
Speaker 4: It is between him and a female wrestler who I'm
Speaker 4: not going to say in case someone is is on
Speaker 4: the line for them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, it's gonna win that icy title back
Speaker 2: on Saturday and you'll have like a good run and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that too. I was just fun.
Speaker 5: I'm frustrated all all.
Speaker 2: This johnsona Shenanians. But Bob, who you who are you
Speaker 2: falling out?
Speaker 5: Chris Jericho with.
Speaker 1: HM, I have a pretty good list of names, I think. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know. I guess I wrote my
Speaker 1: list like twice. I just really, but I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Osca.
Speaker 4: Okay, that that was my my other choice.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you just think because she's in war, like
Speaker 2: she has the title.
Speaker 1: Like like, I feel like she's gonna win, Like.
Speaker 7: I mean, my my, my, my theory is that she
Speaker 7: she beats Stephanie and that's how they get to like like,
Speaker 7: I think Oscar goes into me.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe she she loses again.
Speaker 7: At Mania, but I think she she might go into
Speaker 7: Mania as a champion.
Speaker 1: I mean could be icy too.
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, you're still predicting this. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you it's not happening. I'm telling you, Stephanie Ria.
Speaker 2: I see the vision, I see the poster, I see
Speaker 2: the memes something.
Speaker 7: Something something Evu was saying is that, like, weirdly, out
Speaker 7: of everyone, Bruce Pritchard loves Osca.
Speaker 1: She He just thinks she's like the greatest ever.
Speaker 2: So you'll be pushing one way or another.
Speaker 1: I think Oscar should should get this rubble in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be like the Jay is the thing?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah that was yeah, Well we'll see what can change.
Speaker 2: Yeah that what was the current because it was red
Speaker 2: and then it was like backy. Right, there's the rumor
Speaker 2: that they're thinking about for WrestleMania. It's like I can see,
Speaker 2: but like it's something like Becky's. I just Becky needs
Speaker 2: a big match at Mania. But I also don't don't
Speaker 2: know if that's the right fit. Like I just don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it needs to be something else.
Speaker 2: But I guess we'll see when we get there. So, okay,
Speaker 2: so I got one morning job or my jobber is
Speaker 2: lined up. I feel now I could be wrong. Maybe
Speaker 2: we dropped because he had a break at some point.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm just gonna go here. I
Speaker 2: believe no one has Sammy's ain, and I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: Sammy's ain. And that's the case. I kept looking. I
Speaker 2: was like, he has to be here, he's doing those
Speaker 2: challenges there. But he's just a guy. He's just a guy.
Speaker 5: That's gonna always wrestle a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't have anything like.
Speaker 1: Like because you're a normal picker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, normal pick Yeah yeah, not that yet, No, because
Speaker 2: I was trying to think and like I could take
Speaker 2: a swing and go for a rock or something that,
Speaker 2: but the rock ain't coming back.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's busy there.
Speaker 2: And then even brock like, you know, there's always a
Speaker 2: chance they just say fucking he wins the rumble, like
Speaker 2: there's don't get me wrong, there's always a chance or
Speaker 2: he'll be versusing goon the.
Speaker 7: But for now, Brocky only wrestles like on the peel. Yes,
Speaker 7: even even then, it's just some of them, So you're
Speaker 7: only be getting like exactly once in a while.
Speaker 1: And he could be opening the show.
Speaker 2: Too, So you gonna I got a red eye.
Speaker 5: We gotta do warriams.
Speaker 1: First, you like like five points every.
Speaker 4: Like, especially those overseas papers, and they've got a lot
Speaker 4: of those lined up. So he's gonna be jet sitting
Speaker 4: out of there.
Speaker 2: Yeah where you never know, Sammy, maybe something happens big
Speaker 2: for him this year. I really don't know.
Speaker 1: Mmmm, well you picked him so back to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, I know, I forgot to drop
Speaker 2: somebody that I'll check after if I can drop because
Speaker 2: I forgot they're injured, so I'll check with the council.
Speaker 1: I was gonna mention that person.
Speaker 2: To I totally got his teeth are sucked up. So
Speaker 2: but after yeah, after, yeah that's fine. I completely forgot, like,
Speaker 2: oh no, I'm looking at Big J. I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I.
Speaker 1: Think I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 7: You know, he's getting his his retirement run. I'm gonna
Speaker 7: go with AJ styles.
Speaker 2: There you go, current men's world take.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe he'll.
Speaker 7: Get some some tag title defenses. That's some three points.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I still like, I don't know, I still
Speaker 2: would not be just fucking let him win the world
Speaker 2: heavyweight title for a month, you know, like let him
Speaker 2: let him win it for like an let like I
Speaker 2: don't know, let him win that or something. I would
Speaker 2: like to see that. So okay, so Dave's old squared away.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it write down that you dropped it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can jump, thank you, because I completely forgot
Speaker 2: about fat before because it's like, I know, I have
Speaker 2: three injured people, and then I saw him there.
Speaker 1: But this is like the mee Chin rule where someone
Speaker 1: like a later Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it since scouts honor so okay, So dropping Jacob
Speaker 2: faw to uh and I'm gonna replace them with another
Speaker 2: person in that family tree. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: gonna pay off, but I'm gonna swing for the fences.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the big Dog. I'm gonna get the
Speaker 2: OTC ABC one two three, Tribal Chief. I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: Roman Reigns cause I think there's a hot chance that
Speaker 2: he wins the Royal Rumble. I think they's a good chance.
Speaker 2: So my think the reason I'm picking him is I
Speaker 2: know he'll get war Game's main event pay per viewpoints
Speaker 2: likely coming up. I know there's a good shot he
Speaker 2: could win the Rumble and then obviously be on Chamber.
Speaker 2: I know the dude does not wrestle, but that's what
Speaker 2: I'm hoping is because there's a couple other people I
Speaker 2: could pick, but I think they'll just get me these
Speaker 2: little points. My hope is I'm picking Roman because either
Speaker 2: Chamber or Rumble, I could see him winning one of those.
Speaker 2: I think he's winning that world title I'm really hoping,
Speaker 2: which we can probably transition to some more picks, but
Speaker 2: I'm really hoping they just pull the band age and
Speaker 2: do punking Roman one on one. That's what I want.
Speaker 2: But I think Roman either way is getting some big stuff.
Speaker 2: You might always be around. I'm sure he's gonna get
Speaker 2: Susan on me through a table on raw and then
Speaker 2: he's gone for another three months. But I think the
Speaker 2: big events coming up, I got a good shot of him.
Speaker 2: I'm winning one of those things. So I'm picking the
Speaker 2: Roman reigns.
Speaker 4: I had thought about him earlier, but the whole taking
Speaker 4: time off and you know, one month here, three months
Speaker 4: off type deal kind of had me like, ah, man,
Speaker 4: do I want to risk it?
Speaker 2: It's a risk, but I have to somehow counter Jericho
Speaker 2: because Jero's gonna get one hundred point. But if I can't,
Speaker 2: if Roman you get me some of those big events
Speaker 2: and the events, maybe he can. He can get up there.
Speaker 2: So big dog don't fail me, you know. So, Oh,
Speaker 2: I guess I got you all the year still after okay,
Speaker 2: who you got?
Speaker 7: I guess I'm gonna save my my main, my last
Speaker 7: real pick.
Speaker 1: So said, I'll go for Jova and I'll go with
Speaker 1: j D.
Speaker 2: God damn it. Okay, you can do your next pick too,
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna need a second look at my roster
Speaker 2: here of jobs maybe coming back.
Speaker 7: I had a backup jobber pick in case you picked
Speaker 7: JD mcdona. I have the coat of jobbers. Who you
Speaker 7: know he's putting work in the past. You know you
Speaker 7: might remember him. I think you had him at one point.
Speaker 2: Is it Tazou or truth?
Speaker 1: It's one of those two?
Speaker 2: Okay, who do I want?
Speaker 7: Because ideally at my last person because a lot of
Speaker 7: these are like, well, I mean, I think I have
Speaker 7: pretty decent roster now, people who will rest pretty weekly
Speaker 7: because that was kind of my issue in the last ones.
Speaker 7: So it's either people who were like too big to
Speaker 7: wrestle weekly or like too low.
Speaker 1: To wrestle weekly. Yeah, so I kind of want I'm
Speaker 1: scrolling Cage Match to see. I mean, I have my list,
Speaker 1: but I kind of have like either then or everyone
Speaker 1: else has already taken. I might just go with this.
Speaker 7: First one was sat on my list initially, but I
Speaker 7: think I'm gonna go with it. I'm gonna take Alexa Bliss.
Speaker 5: She was next to Rome.
Speaker 2: That's who I thought was Alexa Bliss because obviously she'll
Speaker 2: be around I don't think they'll win that title again,
Speaker 2: but I think they're gonna be. She's always be on
Speaker 2: TV doing stuff, so yeah, yeah, no, I think that's
Speaker 2: a good pick.
Speaker 7: Now you have your your job pick, I can give
Speaker 7: you my my recommendation if you don't have anyone.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Knockamora, you know, because she's always around.
Speaker 2: There's a thought of tongas, there's a what does your
Speaker 2: recommendation pick?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 2: S Bobs, Well, alright, he has been rest because Alton
Speaker 2: Prince has been gone right and he's just been on
Speaker 2: his own jobbing out. Did they fishy break them up?
Speaker 4: According to Kit, they're not broken up. He's just quote
Speaker 4: unquote doing his own thing right now.
Speaker 2: H just even looking at the women, who's who's losing lots?
Speaker 2: I could have picked a pre but she got the
Speaker 2: icy time though I know she's gonna lose it at
Speaker 2: some point here, man, I got a lot. He was
Speaker 2: like world champion for half a year and none of
Speaker 2: us have Damien Priest and I even talked about Dame
Speaker 2: Priest like he's just like in the.
Speaker 1: Ether event this week had a snackdown was like I
Speaker 1: think probably facing Kit Wilson.
Speaker 2: That's that's brutal, that's a uh. I don't really know.
Speaker 2: I'm all there's just a lot of people that.
Speaker 1: I just I don't think.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna, you know, I'm having a you know,
Speaker 2: I him having a while. But I feel like every
Speaker 2: time I see him lately he is losing. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: throw up the miss. I feel like the Miss is
Speaker 2: now just in that stage where he's doing media and
Speaker 2: he's there to take the one two three. He had
Speaker 2: his researches with the Our Truth thing that's over with.
Speaker 2: He lost to what's his face? And the who beat
Speaker 2: him in the first round in who O? Who's all right?
Speaker 2: Because I'm much meaned about match, Like, yeah, I just
Speaker 2: think that I just don't see him winning anything when
Speaker 2: he's on TV. He's there just to lose. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll take the Miss, see how he does, and go
Speaker 2: from there.
Speaker 1: So I can read out all the rosters.
Speaker 7: Okay, perfect, So I have John Cena, Gunther, Penta, Eo Sky,
Speaker 7: Chris Jerico, see him, punk oscar aj Styles, Rox Samprez,
Speaker 7: Alexa Bliss, and my jobbers JD McDonough, which I probably
Speaker 7: spelled wrong.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 5: I didn't know how to say it for here either.
Speaker 7: So then tres Is Ria, Drew bron Charlotte, Jay, Becky
Speaker 7: Live Roman, Sammy Lyra and MS's Jobber.
Speaker 1: And then David has.
Speaker 7: Cody, Ilia, Stephanie, Chelsea, l A Knight, Bronson Reed, Tiffany, Jade,
Speaker 7: Finn Dominic and Javers Carmela. David has like an all
Speaker 7: SmackDown roster pretty much only people on on wrong.
Speaker 4: My only fear with my roster is Chelsea Green because
Speaker 4: she's spent more time in n XT recently doing her
Speaker 4: run with Ethan Page. But I'm hoping that she gets
Speaker 4: some more main roster showing. But that I mean, I've
Speaker 4: got a good roster of people.
Speaker 3: I just need them to do something with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, show up too and stuff. So well, speaking of
Speaker 2: David's roster, we're gonna start off with Survivor Series first match.
Speaker 2: I have listed here my god, Stephanie Vakir versus Nicki
Speaker 2: Bella for the Women's World Championship.
Speaker 5: I don't know what we're doing here. We the people
Speaker 5: talk about.
Speaker 2: I thought that Nicki Bella Becky Lynch match was maybe
Speaker 2: like a wake up for WB because it felt like
Speaker 2: Nicky Bella like took a back scene was just like
Speaker 2: in the backstage stuff and like help me. Stephanie's like, okay,
Speaker 2: she'd be there, get a pop sell submerged cool, but
Speaker 2: now we didn't learn and Nicky Bella, you know who's
Speaker 2: not like the worst ever of course, I'm just saying
Speaker 2: of when they everybody talks about man, this is the
Speaker 2: most talented the woman roster's ever been. And we even
Speaker 2: talked about too with Roxanne last episode. We're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: when they do that defense, it's gonna have to be
Speaker 2: like Saturday's Man event or a pair of you that
Speaker 2: could be Now I just did on random row and
Speaker 2: she just beat her. Like that's the thing where I
Speaker 2: just I got no interest here. I like Stephanie, but
Speaker 2: if I have to, which luckily it's only a four
Speaker 2: match card as of now, I don't think is there
Speaker 2: any rumored matches to be added because we have men's
Speaker 2: war games I see, and then that no.
Speaker 7: The only one people are like maybe speculation since they're
Speaker 7: like putting it off for so long and it's not
Speaker 7: been like announced, like they didn't tape it for like
Speaker 7: the SmackDown before Survivors series is like maybe Ilia versus Champa.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, which one.
Speaker 7: People are like because they keep putting that one like
Speaker 7: off and off, and I was thinking like they might
Speaker 7: do it just like smack Down before Survivors Series.
Speaker 1: But I saw like the tapings and they didn't do it.
Speaker 2: I do really wish I.
Speaker 7: Didn't didn't defend his title on the on the taping,
Speaker 7: so that might just be like a backsipe segment like
Speaker 7: at Survivors Series.
Speaker 2: He beat some backstage right or something. They just did
Speaker 2: a false count anywhere match. The whole match was a
Speaker 2: backstage brawl. But no, I really wish they will have
Speaker 2: to see the run time. But I really wish they
Speaker 2: put that five man elimination tag like on the pay
Speaker 2: per view because I think they would have been a
Speaker 2: fun throwback to you're doing the Survivor Series tag and
Speaker 2: he got war games.
Speaker 5: I think that would have been fun.
Speaker 2: Would have been nice pay per viewpoints for a bunch
Speaker 2: of us too, you know, Sammy, But I digress. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I guess it was to me smarter to turn Nikki
Speaker 2: heel because like she does kind of get like a
Speaker 2: mixed response. I think this match is going to be
Speaker 2: I know, I bet, I think it's top level. Could
Speaker 2: be a three point five, but that's again at its
Speaker 2: top level. Nicky is better as a heel, so I
Speaker 2: think that could do some advantage for this, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. Stephanie gets to win, and I think it's
Speaker 2: in a very all right type of match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: I got scared for a minute because once they start
Speaker 4: really pushing, this is Nicki's final run.
Speaker 3: I go, do not do something stupid like.
Speaker 4: Go, oh, you're avent, We're going to give you one
Speaker 4: last run with the title.
Speaker 3: She's not one of the people that you give.
Speaker 2: To Rebella to return and interfere and Stephaniel.
Speaker 3: So but no, I got Stephanie taking it.
Speaker 4: I think that she's going to have another dominant win,
Speaker 4: and I think that she is going to carry this match,
Speaker 4: and it will be obvious Nicki has gotten better over
Speaker 4: the years. I'm not saying she's the same person she
Speaker 4: was ten to fifteen years ago, but still Stephanie's going
Speaker 4: to obviously carry this match and it's it's gonna be
Speaker 4: a C plus effort at best.
Speaker 2: That might also be the designed by them too, right.
Speaker 2: They might be putting Stephanie in the hall or like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's see what she can do with somebody that's like
Speaker 2: not an a tier five star worker that like, Okay,
Speaker 2: even her and Rock Sande can probably have a great
Speaker 2: match in their sleep, right where Nikki, you know, the
Speaker 2: older had their neck injuries, hasn't been in the game
Speaker 2: as much. A lot of times they do this, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's see what she could do, because then in the
Speaker 2: future they know, oh, if we need to put her
Speaker 2: with this person, that person, Stephanie can do where some
Speaker 2: people can't. Right, we can't talk about it with Tiffany.
Speaker 2: I feel like some of those matches, like with Jade,
Speaker 2: they've been so short because either they don't trust Jade
Speaker 2: or they don't trust Tiffany, like they don't trust one
Speaker 2: of them, right, And maybe this is like a trustful
Speaker 2: exercise for Stephanie theay, okay, what can what can she
Speaker 2: do in this situation? You know?
Speaker 7: But yeah, yeah, I will say I guess for this,
Speaker 7: I was liking what Nicki is doing like as a
Speaker 7: face recently, but I see people always say that she's
Speaker 7: better as a heel, So yeah, I think in terms
Speaker 7: of like a match, I think it'll probably work out
Speaker 7: obviously with her as a heel if compared to they
Speaker 7: did as like a face versus face thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 7: Probably easier for her to get like the heat in
Speaker 7: this match. I mean, I feel like the layout of
Speaker 7: this match will probably just be like Nikki just like
Speaker 7: working her over for the.
Speaker 2: Yea until cheap shots come back with all.
Speaker 7: The moves and stuff. But uh yeah, it'll probably just
Speaker 7: be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm glad we didn't get like the Hangman
Speaker 2: sim O Joe. They beat each other like high five
Speaker 2: and then turn and get the rematch showing I do
Speaker 2: like again, I don't. I really don't know why they
Speaker 2: would care. I just feel like, and I'm not asking
Speaker 2: for this, but clearly want to use Nickki Bella. I
Speaker 2: don't know why with the women's division they don't bring
Speaker 2: back Brie and for the fun run, they just don't
Speaker 2: have them as a heel tag team or whatever. Who
Speaker 2: cares that Brian's on the desk, Like, no one gets
Speaker 2: that's what's so funny, Like these companies and they both do.
Speaker 2: No one gives a fuck. No one is gonna be like, man,
Speaker 2: oh that's Rebella, Like no one's watching the Yeah, Brebella
Speaker 2: walks and screen there. Oh I forgot about Brian Danielson,
Speaker 2: what's he up to? And they say, Daniel Brian, he's
Speaker 2: on a w he's a commentator. I gotta watch for that.
Speaker 2: Like and don't get me wrong, Brian might be the
Speaker 2: best commentator right now. He's great. But just like the
Speaker 2: way sometimes they think these billionaires like we tubbles all
Speaker 2: the time with like movies and TV shows, it's like
Speaker 2: no one cares that he's on the desk. Just bring
Speaker 2: her back and let them have a run. I don't
Speaker 2: need both bells back, but clearly after Nicki loses this
Speaker 2: other than like, honestly, I could see them do a
Speaker 2: Maxine she could you that? Or I could I could
Speaker 2: see a Maxine Nikki feud, and I could see I
Speaker 2: could see Nicki getting that title actually, and then you
Speaker 2: could have even lyre take it off her. So if
Speaker 2: they don't bring Bella back, I think you could see
Speaker 2: her on one show the other doing the single or
Speaker 2: the secondary title, but.
Speaker 7: Nikki the icy title, and you do the the Nicky
Speaker 7: versus a j Lee dream dream reman.
Speaker 2: You could yeah, and that's when you bring b back,
Speaker 2: and you do you run back the whole kiss storyline again.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just like I don't know what, like,
Speaker 2: just just bring her back, just let them do their
Speaker 2: fun run together. Put them in the tag vision because
Speaker 2: right now you got Osca and Cary, and then imagine
Speaker 2: they're gonna do a rematch with Bliss and Flair. But
Speaker 2: then after that, like who else is there left for them?
Speaker 2: Diverse like the Kabooki Warriors. Yeah, if they just beat
Speaker 2: Flair and Bliss, there's not many.
Speaker 7: I mean depends on like if they lose the Wargames match,
Speaker 7: then they could face like Lash and Naya for like losing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's a good point you can do.
Speaker 7: I mean they haven't faced like anyone for the titles yet,
Speaker 7: so you could do against like Bailey and Lyra.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like actually for the titles they've had like some
Speaker 1: tag matches, you know what we can You can always
Speaker 1: just do the classic Chelsea Green and album fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah random, but you'd have to. It's like what we
Speaker 2: talked about with hang Man. You have to flip the
Speaker 2: Kabooky Warriors then, right, or get people to flip because
Speaker 2: they're they're heels right now, right, So it's like you've
Speaker 2: pitched two heel teams with Chelsea and Alba and then
Speaker 2: lash night they now.
Speaker 7: Look at like if they're if they're facing faces, they
Speaker 7: get and if they're facing heels they get cheered.
Speaker 2: That's true. You can flip those too easily. Yeah, She's
Speaker 2: kind of like a tweener that way. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's what's interesting with because I I don't watch weeg
Speaker 2: with Bailey and Lyra. Did they just kind of drop
Speaker 2: this whole Bailey like snaping type of storyline.
Speaker 7: Really literally this week on Rot, like Oscar and Kyrie
Speaker 7: were like backstage, like before there was anything of Becky.
Speaker 7: They were looking backstage for like and they want to
Speaker 7: ask Bailey to like be on their war games team,
Speaker 7: and she was like like no, like I can't forget
Speaker 7: all the stuff you guys did to me like two
Speaker 7: years ago. And then Lara came up to her and
Speaker 7: was like, oh, like I'm proud of you for for
Speaker 7: like telling them knowing stuff, and then Bailey like snapped
Speaker 7: and like got mad at her until they're like she's
Speaker 7: an idiot and.
Speaker 2: Walk they're bringing it back finally. Yeah, I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of surprised that Bailey's not a part of this all,
Speaker 2: especially like like Bailey Becky Bliss like it feels weird
Speaker 2: of like the awestme Mercedes has gone, but it feels
Speaker 2: like the past year it's been like Bliss is like
Speaker 2: taking her her slot. It's like the other four worst
Speaker 2: woman going on. So yeah, I don't know what's gotten.
Speaker 7: There Satlander doing doing Bailey's move that's like when the when.
Speaker 1: Doinga's moves, yeah.
Speaker 2: Trying to get yeah, or when I remember the there's
Speaker 2: that rum knockamor was doing the GTS to get pun stag.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm saying like I've said this. I think I
Speaker 2: said this after wrestling, where I said I have to
Speaker 2: see other year A goes. But I do think Bailey
Speaker 2: should leave. It's not just because I prefer to me.
Speaker 2: It's just that sometimes you have to do that and
Speaker 2: then after they like, oh yeah we kind of screwed up,
Speaker 2: like let's bring her back. I just don't think they're
Speaker 2: doing much with her, Like sure, okay, she could snap
Speaker 2: and maybe what's gonna happen is Lyra gets Icy title
Speaker 2: back and they do that few but it just feels
Speaker 2: like multiple times they've just kind of maybe they're doing
Speaker 2: that purpose, maybe they maybe they get the vibe like hey,
Speaker 2: I don't think she's resigning, like because their contract's up
Speaker 2: next year. In the room, right, I think she said
Speaker 2: to this in twenty six, Yeah, yeah, and it's like
Speaker 2: I think money's still there to like at least twenty seven,
Speaker 2: twenty eight. I guarantee you if Bailey went there.
Speaker 1: Nay, the rumor was I think.
Speaker 2: Was it late twenty six.
Speaker 7: I think it's like pretty much like January first, twenty
Speaker 7: twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's after Bailey, That's what I remember. But I
Speaker 2: guarantee you if Bailey went to aw Tony's got that
Speaker 2: in the back, like Monee's signing at least like a
Speaker 2: year or two years, right, Like that's like that's a
Speaker 2: done deal. So I just feel like for everybody involved,
Speaker 2: like go there, there's some great matches she could have.
Speaker 2: I just feel like in all these huge scenarios, Bailey's
Speaker 2: again just kind of being left out. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: go bet on yourself. But the roster, if I didn't say,
Speaker 2: is Kubooki Warriors nine, AACS Lash Legend.
Speaker 5: Good for her for getting this big spot.
Speaker 2: And Becky Lynch versus re Ripley, Eosky, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair,
Speaker 2: and aj Lee just a fucking massive fantasy team. And
Speaker 2: it's cool because it's like different eras of AJ started
Speaker 2: that and then Blisten shot with the you know, original
Speaker 2: nx T girls, and then Riha and I know, Whati
Speaker 2: you are kind of like the leaders this gen. So
Speaker 2: I'm on the bandwagon that I feel like the women
Speaker 2: or the baby faces win just because they don't want
Speaker 2: AJ to lose yet I know she wouldn't even take
Speaker 2: the pin, but I feel like they want.
Speaker 1: I feel like it makes sense for like the heels
Speaker 1: to win.
Speaker 7: But the women's face is like never losing war games,
Speaker 7: Like that's a stat Like I think the only time
Speaker 7: loss was like in like the second ever like n
Speaker 7: XT women's work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even the main roster runs, they're always opening
Speaker 2: up the show, right, So that's what it's like. You
Speaker 2: kind of want the baby faces to win. And again,
Speaker 2: like I said, I for me, it's just like when
Speaker 2: AJ loses, that should be a big deal, not just
Speaker 2: our first loss was in war games with a bunch
Speaker 2: of other people. You know, I don't know what they do, Like,
Speaker 2: I guess you could even have Becky beat her and
Speaker 2: you set that up, but I don't think you need
Speaker 2: to I think Becky's just gonna beat Maxine in a
Speaker 2: rematch and then they'll run.
Speaker 7: That the Maxine doesn't have side plates, which means that
Speaker 7: she's probably losing it.
Speaker 2: Right probably to probably to or they'll probably wait to
Speaker 2: off Survivor series.
Speaker 7: I bat, Yeah, she defended it on like an NXT
Speaker 7: house show, because I didn't notice that, like for the
Speaker 7: past few months she's been doing like the NXT house
Speaker 7: shows and stuff they've been sending her there. So yeah,
Speaker 7: But I mean, well, the thing is, I guess in
Speaker 7: the SmackDown tapings, like there was some stuff relating to
Speaker 7: the Women's War Games, but like they said that there
Speaker 7: was like a segment, but it was only backstage. So
Speaker 7: I feel like if she won the title, like like
Speaker 7: on Mondays, like they could just do shoot a second
Speaker 7: version of it where she's holding the title and just
Speaker 7: put that in backstage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could or a backstage brawl where Becky wins
Speaker 2: it back you know they do they do a backstage brawl.
Speaker 2: Well Dragonov loses to chomp On, then Maxine loses. But
Speaker 2: h David, you got you disagree with this, But the
Speaker 2: bait face women.
Speaker 4: I think the bait face women are going over. You
Speaker 4: got to give aj Lee that that shining moment. You're
Speaker 4: they're gonna have something go down between her and Becky
Speaker 4: during the match. I mean, and that's one of the
Speaker 4: good things about having someone like both Nia Jacks and
Speaker 4: Lash Legend in here on the Hills team. Is both
Speaker 4: of them seem primed to take the pin.
Speaker 2: Flick's gotta be it's gotta be not don't pin Lash
Speaker 2: like first thing, Matt, it's I don't. I are car
Speaker 2: in my opinion, like those are the two that could
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 1: But Lash, like, are you gonna have like like Becky
Speaker 1: tap out again.
Speaker 2: To aj Yeah, you could do the Moxley thing right
Speaker 2: where she just keeps tapping out and you could do that.
Speaker 5: There is lots of options. I think it's just not someone.
Speaker 7: Say that, like the referee for this war game. So
Speaker 7: that definitely has to be a jess A good car.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope they gotta have Becky and her do
Speaker 2: a match on ro I'm telling you that'd be that'd
Speaker 2: be fun, you know. Yeah. I hope Lash Legend gets
Speaker 2: like a really cool spot. I hope they don't have
Speaker 2: Nia Jacks anywhere near a j because yeah, sure Nia
Speaker 2: is not as bad she used to be. But please
Speaker 2: is AG's second match. I do not need her being like.
Speaker 7: You know, she's the same, she got to be dangerous.
Speaker 7: Another she has the safest chair shots in the business.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry, You're gonna you're that's gonna happen there.
Speaker 2: So and then after this, obviously we got Sena Suray
Speaker 2: my main event, which I really hope that they I
Speaker 2: don't think they've not said this, but I hope they
Speaker 2: do the same thing the men and the women too,
Speaker 2: Like they have women like a Rhea Ripley or Eo
Speaker 2: versus someone from NXT, right, so.
Speaker 1: They didn't specify men or women. And it sounds kind
Speaker 1: of like from what Sina says, it'd be like that'd
Speaker 1: be like the first hour of this show, and then
Speaker 1: the second hour is like kind of his stuff, him and.
Speaker 2: Bigouth going forty five minutes. Hell yeah yeah, Well.
Speaker 7: Because he said, like Triple H pitched him that like
Speaker 7: to do like a full two hour of him and
Speaker 7: you didn't want that, which is like funny.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like that's what people.
Speaker 7: It's like the one thing that the Triple H pitched that,
Speaker 7: like the fans have been saying like, no, it needs
Speaker 7: to be like two hours of scene A scenea's like, no, I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to do that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, so I mean within saying that it
Speaker 7: probably only be like the first hour, I mean, I
Speaker 7: assume that's only like three or four matches probably at
Speaker 7: the very most, So I think it'd.
Speaker 1: Probably be I mean, this is just skipping ahead to
Speaker 1: that one. But I mean I assume there's going to
Speaker 1: be a men at least one women's match.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Weird, it's all men, especially with it.
Speaker 7: Being like the nxt S focus and they always talk
Speaker 7: about the women and NT and stuff.
Speaker 2: So the reason I was just asked that too because
Speaker 2: that because I'm always used to old school. We had
Speaker 2: the December pair review, we have nothing until Rumble then
Speaker 2: after this, right, like paper say, yeah, but no, nothing
Speaker 2: pay per view wise, right, So that's where I was
Speaker 2: just trying to think, obviously they'll make those bigger, but yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's where we'll be on the way to Rumble.
Speaker 2: And that's where it's like because I was just thinking about, like, oh,
Speaker 2: what's next for rio E like all these people, but
Speaker 2: it's it's like, you don't have to do much because
Speaker 2: it's like you got a fil TV, but rumble.
Speaker 1: Is stack like the first raw and smacked another year.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, that's true. So but yeah, speaking of
Speaker 2: mister Johnstena, he's defending against Tom mcmasterio in a rematch.
Speaker 2: I hate all of this. I was completely fine with,
Speaker 2: like I knew what they were doing and I knew
Speaker 2: how they got themselves as fucked because we talked about this.
Speaker 2: We said, okay, Sina, the rumor was him and Dom
Speaker 2: right and we were all, Okay, he's gonna be domp.
Speaker 2: They're gonna do that Grand Slam thing, and I'm all
Speaker 2: fine at that. I'm still mad there's no Spinner Icy belt,
Speaker 2: but I've given up that's not happening because obviously he's
Speaker 2: gonna lose it in two weeks. But we're always like, oh,
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen because when he does this, he's gonna
Speaker 2: have the title, and then he's gonna likely face goother
Speaker 2: and like gooth the being icy Champion. That's kind of
Speaker 2: an odd fit, right because he's evolved. Well they go, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is an odd fit. So we're gonna run it
Speaker 2: back and he's gonna lose not.
Speaker 1: Since Sina won the title.
Speaker 7: Even in all these tournament matches, at no point did
Speaker 7: they ever mention that.
Speaker 1: It would be now for the icy title.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just.
Speaker 2: And I and don't w wrong. I really enjoyed the
Speaker 2: first Dome and scene a match, so I'm excited to
Speaker 2: see the seconde because I liked that it wasn't just
Speaker 2: a pure spam like Finisher one, which is again him
Speaker 2: and AG that was tons of fun too, right, But
Speaker 2: I like that that's been a lot of the cadence
Speaker 2: and seen his matches has been like he goes for
Speaker 2: ten minutes, he hits an AA, and then we just
Speaker 2: get into Finish Reville and it's like, oh man, especially
Speaker 2: when he's hit like four AA's on random people.
Speaker 7: It's like it's like the first Domb match was kind
Speaker 7: of like what I kind of expect, like the classic.
Speaker 1: Like modern scene of matches to be where he's like
Speaker 1: dead on the outside like all the time and just
Speaker 1: getting like beat up and then it just does the
Speaker 1: five moves do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little short Yeah, you got the you
Speaker 2: got the TV version because in the pay.
Speaker 5: Per view be like okay, one kickout, things gonna go.
Speaker 5: But and I was fine. Then I thought that was
Speaker 5: a really good match.
Speaker 2: Crowd was hot, they did it in it was in Boston, right,
Speaker 2: so like perfect moment. But the fact that the two
Speaker 2: follow ups have been we did a six man, which
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 5: They're his friends and it's just something. Maybe they won't
Speaker 5: get hurt, but it's just.
Speaker 2: Like, just make him do one open challenge for the
Speaker 2: old time sake and have anybody fun walk out there,
Speaker 2: you know, especially when a boo and obviously just a
Speaker 2: rumor he's on his podcast where it's like, oh, one
Speaker 2: point they're talking about doing seen him Punk again?
Speaker 5: This is like an exhibition.
Speaker 2: It's like man like who again? It's like the rebailting,
Speaker 2: Like who cares if Sina loses a champ as Punk loses?
Speaker 2: Who cares? I do something fun and obviously the crowd
Speaker 2: had a fun time, but just sucks that that's what
Speaker 2: we got. And as much as I like that match,
Speaker 2: I don't need to see like scene in Dom again
Speaker 2: because it's just like, I don't know, like it was good,
Speaker 2: but just like in the few mile matches we have,
Speaker 2: that's that's what we get.
Speaker 5: Right, So yeah, Dom's gonna win here. I'm sure that.
Speaker 2: The judgment day will probably help him cheat. I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's gonna be good enough. I just this, man, like,
Speaker 2: when we get to the end of this, this is
Speaker 2: like such the scene of thing has been such and
Speaker 2: such a mess from the beginning, obviously, and I like
Speaker 2: to the heel turn at the start. But just these
Speaker 2: last few weeks, I thought, Okay, we're getting back on
Speaker 2: track with the AJ thing and he's just wrestling random people.
Speaker 2: He's getting with the Icy title, and again it just
Speaker 2: feels like very easy, layup stuff to do. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Sina taking a loss here, I imagine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: So I think that it's gonna be a fun match.
Speaker 4: I think that Sena is going to really do what
Speaker 4: he can to put over Dom and let him do
Speaker 4: a lot of those heel tactics, just continue to build
Speaker 4: that character, because you know, I was watching an interview
Speaker 4: with Natalia where she was talking about Sina coming into
Speaker 4: the Dungeon and how like, at this point in his
Speaker 4: life and his career, he just wants everyone else.
Speaker 3: To succeed and for the business to succeed. So I
Speaker 3: think he's going to.
Speaker 4: Do whatever he can to build up Dom's character going forward.
Speaker 4: So I think Sina takes the loss Domri claims, and yes,
Speaker 4: I do want the points from it, but also, you know,
Speaker 4: I just think it's it's what's best for dog going forward,
Speaker 4: and it allows Sina's finished last match to not have
Speaker 4: to worry about being for a title or something like that,
Speaker 4: because if his last match is four title, then that
Speaker 4: to me choreographs how the match is gonna go. Let
Speaker 4: whatever the last match be what it's gonna be. It
Speaker 4: stands alone. That's jess Seena's last match.
Speaker 2: And that's how they want to be, right. They just
Speaker 2: want to be seen as last match, not like and
Speaker 2: also a winner of the IC title. You know, So yeah,
Speaker 2: ant takes u s bub anything.
Speaker 1: Not really.
Speaker 7: I mean I'm still on the top of this is
Speaker 7: given I had to like see his last match more
Speaker 7: than the Survivor Series match, but I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 7: my thought has.
Speaker 1: Been like Gunther's gonna beat him.
Speaker 7: But for some reason, I just have it in my
Speaker 7: head like there's a chance that Sino wins.
Speaker 2: There's a chance, there's a chance, like they.
Speaker 7: Built they build up Gonther like he gets all these
Speaker 7: wins and then in the end Sina wins just be
Speaker 7: like he is the greatest of all time and like
Speaker 7: just retires on that note. It's like a thought I'm thinking,
Speaker 7: especially with him losing the I see title, I feel
Speaker 7: because it's like, oh, if he won his last match,
Speaker 7: he was still champ, like he just vacated and they
Speaker 7: do another tournament for it or something. But I feel
Speaker 7: like him losing the title here actually makes it a
Speaker 7: higher chance of him winning his last match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think there's a chance. I think I'm
Speaker 2: like a like a fifty one to forty nine for
Speaker 2: Goonther win. I still think Gunther will win, but there's
Speaker 2: always a chance. To day out, They're like, no, they're
Speaker 2: gonna do it. What Tony did this sting? It's like, sorry,
Speaker 2: you gotta win. And it's like, because I feel like
Speaker 2: Sina would want to lose the last time, but maybe
Speaker 2: maybe Triple H won't want that. Maybe Seene will just
Speaker 2: go in business for himself. He just takes one shop
Speaker 2: and lays down on that said, but no, he does.
Speaker 4: The old Jeff Jared and Hull Cogan thing where he
Speaker 4: just comes out and walks down.
Speaker 7: Could you imagine did you see that business Mark Henry Pitch?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, he was like yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Goother should beat Cena and then before he leaves, Joe
Speaker 1: Henderson walk out and lay down for Cina and Sina
Speaker 1: pins him. So last name.
Speaker 2: Geek this guy out. Yeah, I know, I can't.
Speaker 5: I used to, don't wrong. I used to listen to
Speaker 5: bus It Open.
Speaker 7: Listen to any of those anymore, just because like anytime
Speaker 7: I look on Twitter and like, if I see a
Speaker 7: headline that says either Tommy Dreamers says rays she says,
Speaker 7: Mark Henry.
Speaker 1: Says, you know, even even if even you're getting those
Speaker 1: those stuff, thunder Roads says yeah. Nick Nevin says any
Speaker 1: of those I'm done with. Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I used to listen to bust Open. But I
Speaker 5: think now because they're well.
Speaker 2: They've done this before, but especially now because they're like
Speaker 2: a twenty four to seven network where they're always having
Speaker 2: shows on there. Sometimes I feel like people are just
Speaker 2: saying hot take shit just for the sake, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: we do where we do it as like a meme joke.
Speaker 2: They'll like, bully y, so this is what you do,
Speaker 2: and he'll go for an eighteen minute serious pitch about it.
Speaker 2: It's like, what are you? Don't get me wrong, they
Speaker 2: all have some good ideas. I think at times Bully
Speaker 2: is actually has some good stuff. I think sometimes he
Speaker 2: gets too much on like the heat spectrum.
Speaker 1: Good stuff on like the stuff he knows about.
Speaker 7: Like there's one clip that we tableying where he was now.
Speaker 7: He was like, they're interviewing Eddie and Eddie was talking
Speaker 7: about like kind of when we'll talk about this Eddie return.
Speaker 2: Bru Kingston.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Eddie Kingston.
Speaker 7: And he was saying like they were asking him like
Speaker 7: like why wasn't like cutting promos and stuff like since
Speaker 7: his return when he's like he's strong and I forget
Speaker 7: what his reason was. It was like and Bully was like,
Speaker 7: that's the reason, Like people want to see you, like
Speaker 7: you're one of the best promos in the world, and
Speaker 7: like if you're not doing that, then like what are
Speaker 7: you doing?
Speaker 2: Basically, from from what I gather at Bolly, I think
Speaker 2: the way he could work and I don't think the
Speaker 2: reason he I don't think he has a job at
Speaker 2: because it sounds like a lot of people just think
Speaker 2: he's like an asshole, like and I legitally think he's
Speaker 2: not like a like a real ass I think he's
Speaker 2: just one of those people that's just naturally always is
Speaker 2: like that type of vibe. But I think with Bully Ray,
Speaker 2: he's better at, hey, this is the match, just what
Speaker 2: we're doing. What would you change versus give us your
Speaker 2: entire original pitch. I think when he does the original
Speaker 2: pitch stuff, he starts going in a wild up. But
Speaker 2: when I've listened to, like, oh I watched his finish
Speaker 2: and they should an X, Y and Z, It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's good stuff, you know. Or And there's other times
Speaker 2: too where he gets mad the rest for holding the
Speaker 2: fucking ladders. I'm like, I don't care, man, Like, if
Speaker 2: this rest doesn't want to break his neck, let them
Speaker 2: hold the fucking ladder, like no, nobody, nobody cares. And
Speaker 2: then I don't mind me.
Speaker 7: I want to just shoot falling off the ladder and
Speaker 7: broke my back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like all right, which again I appreciate. Down the line,
Speaker 2: he did this match where he went to the top
Speaker 2: of the ladder and the rest are to hold the ladder,
Speaker 2: and he got down and was like starting to beat
Speaker 2: them up. He's like, don't hold my fucking ladder, and
Speaker 2: he lost that match. So it's like that.
Speaker 5: With Tommy Dreamer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why when he did that, That's what
Speaker 2: tipped me off, Like, Okay, sometimes he is just saying
Speaker 2: shit just to like get a rise out of people
Speaker 2: because he like made he made the butt of joke himself, right,
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, Joe Henry just laying out to John
Speaker 2: C and who. Yeah, I don't want to talk about
Speaker 2: Joe Henry a fishy part of the w B slash
Speaker 2: NXC roster. And we'll see what happens. Like I wonder,
Speaker 2: do you either can do the whole thing where he's
Speaker 2: like for a bit and when's the next sea title?
Speaker 2: Then comes up? Like are they gonna do this?
Speaker 7: It's like no, I feel like like, well, I don't
Speaker 7: really know what his next direction really is.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's thirty seven. Just get him the main roster, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: just have them because who's the chance it's Ricky says,
Speaker 2: I don't know whoever, Like the heel up beats Ricky
Speaker 2: same as Ricky, right, like get him up there. But
Speaker 2: I get they want to keep enst going. But I
Speaker 2: just feel like Joe Henry especially is very main roster
Speaker 2: backstage segment coded like you can do a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff with him, you know. So we'll see and then
Speaker 2: finally we got the Men's War Game. We got the
Speaker 2: All Star team, which I'm very happy. Did happen up
Speaker 2: Cody Road see him funk, the USO's and Roman Reigns
Speaker 2: versus bron Breaker, Bronson Reed, Logan Paul, True McIntyre and
Speaker 2: Brock Lesnar. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather take Logan
Speaker 2: Paul than Austin Theory. And that's saying a lot, because
Speaker 2: at least Logan Paul is still good at promos and
Speaker 2: his job, and Austin Theory, I think it's just very bland.
Speaker 2: But I am curious, just little stuff because Austin and
Speaker 2: new Brock was gonna be in here, but I will
Speaker 2: be curious. Like Brock's definitely the last person in the
Speaker 2: match for the the heel Man, and I'm curious how
Speaker 2: he works. But I guarantee what's gonna happen is comes
Speaker 2: in Rereck Shop all the day.
Speaker 7: I feel like the ending is like I feel like
Speaker 7: either bron Breakers spearing Brocer Broc is f fiveing bron Breakers.
Speaker 7: I don't know if that like cost them the match
Speaker 7: or like I mean, either if they win or lose.
Speaker 7: I feel like either those could happen, Like even if
Speaker 7: like the Heels win, like one of those two could
Speaker 7: happen to like set up a mania because I mean
Speaker 7: that is the rumor match, and I feel like with
Speaker 7: them being in this match, that might happen that match.
Speaker 2: Okay, I miss I missed that rumor. I didn't see
Speaker 2: that was the plan, right who who was putting it
Speaker 2: out there?
Speaker 1: I don't remember those already from like a few weeks before.
Speaker 2: I completely missed that one. Yeah I could, I can
Speaker 2: see that or do you not do that till the
Speaker 2: rumble though? Right? Do you have them good here and
Speaker 2: then the Rumble turn where they're like an alliance and
Speaker 2: then either Braun or which it works better if Braun
Speaker 2: turns on him, right, he spears them throw him out
Speaker 2: of the Rumble and then you make Brock a babyface
Speaker 2: and w would fucking love to have Brock cheer in
Speaker 2: the big people want them back because.
Speaker 7: Rumor from it was from two months ago from body.
Speaker 2: Slim Okay, so yeah, there's some creedence there, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I could that definitely, that definitely works there. I do
Speaker 2: think the in my opinion, the Heels should win this match.
Speaker 2: They already did Punk and Roman last year, Like could
Speaker 2: they work together than they won. Like, if they win,
Speaker 2: it just kind of more of the same. Like to me,
Speaker 2: I think you have Punk and Roman who are at odds.
Speaker 2: You have Jay who's kind of like they go back
Speaker 2: and forth like is he shitty? Is he not? I
Speaker 2: feel like you have the Babyfaces have multiple characters that
Speaker 2: are in turmoil where the bad guys are just we're bad, right,
Speaker 2: we're on, we're working together and we're bad. So to me,
Speaker 2: I think it would work better drama wise for them
Speaker 2: to win, especially to me, and I'm long gaming it
Speaker 2: because I want Punk and so to me, there's like
Speaker 2: a good place you could start even if you do
Speaker 2: punkin Cody, Like, there's multiple things you could branch off to,
Speaker 2: or as Bubbs's stream match of the USO's rematch at WrestleMania,
Speaker 2: Like you could set up three to four matches on
Speaker 2: just a good guys side here. So to me, that's
Speaker 2: what I'm kind of hoping is last year you saw
Speaker 2: oh can they work together? And it worked. This year,
Speaker 2: I hope it's oh can they work together? And it doesn't.
Speaker 2: I would even I pitched this before, I would love
Speaker 2: them to run back the Roman see them Punk thing
Speaker 2: in the cage, but this time they legitimbly come to
Speaker 2: blows like they cannot get along in there, and like
Speaker 2: I just I just don't want them just to run
Speaker 2: back a similar story of last year of you know,
Speaker 2: can they work together? And oh yeah they can. And
Speaker 2: I feel like there's especially with the vision too. Give
Speaker 2: them the win, give Braun and Bron something like that
Speaker 2: big win of beating these big baby faces. So that's
Speaker 2: what I think I'm more to say about Cody, But
Speaker 2: I'm I am going to actually predict that the Heels
Speaker 2: are gonna win. That that's my opinion. So what do
Speaker 2: you guys think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the Hills are winning this. I
Speaker 4: would love to see Punk and Roaming come to blows.
Speaker 4: They had that moment this past week where they all
Speaker 4: came together and Roman Reign said, you know, you don't
Speaker 4: have to worry about me stabbing you in the back,
Speaker 4: I'll stab you right in the front and things like that.
Speaker 4: So if they them come to blows, could be the
Speaker 4: reason why the Babyfaces lose, and I would be completely
Speaker 4: okay with that. I Mean, the easy option is having
Speaker 4: one of the usso's take the pin. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: think that that this would just be. I think overall
Speaker 4: it's going to be a good match. I mean, with
Speaker 4: everyone in here, you've got so many people who are
Speaker 4: going to have incredible spots. I'm anxious to see what
Speaker 4: both bron Breaker and Bronson Reid do in this match, because.
Speaker 2: Bronz would stay from no topic cage.
Speaker 1: Do you think he like, no, he does.
Speaker 2: Go, No, he he doesn't. Don't do it again, don't
Speaker 2: ruin the vision anymore.
Speaker 4: And because he's changed the way that he's does the
Speaker 4: tsunami since then he does it's more of the Snoop
Speaker 4: dogg land on your feet first on his tsunamis, So
Speaker 4: he can't do that coming up there. So it's he's
Speaker 4: gonna limit it top rope.
Speaker 2: But yeah, have Logan do the fun because if he
Speaker 2: gets hurt, it doesn't matter, he's gonna be gone to
Speaker 2: the rumble anyways. Just have Logan.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let Logan go up there, have the phone up.
Speaker 2: There, do the g moment of the night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 7: And yeah, and then I feel like I feel like
Speaker 7: Bronson will little tease it but not do it or so.
Speaker 2: I agree they'll stop them. Yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 7: He's like it's like like like tan of has she
Speaker 7: climbing the.
Speaker 2: No no no, yeah yeah, or even then we're telling
Speaker 2: people eat the pin. I could easily see them have
Speaker 2: Logan Paul Ben seeing Bunk because they're clearly setting up
Speaker 2: for I feel like a Sertains movement or something of
Speaker 2: punk defending against Logan. Right, They've got to tease us
Speaker 2: a few times, so I could see something like that.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I feel like if the baby
Speaker 2: Faces just win, it's just the vision look dumb, like
Speaker 2: Logan Paul shouldn't get a title shot and Brock doesn't
Speaker 2: seem as dangerous right Like, it feels like it's just
Speaker 2: it doesn't really make much story sense. Oh, if they
Speaker 2: Faces win, Trew's gonna take the fucking pin watch. We're done.
Speaker 2: It's over with, you know. So that's the thing where
Speaker 2: it just doesn't make sense. But let's see. Uh oh
Speaker 2: go ahead, I'll go that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, now, you guys lay it out.
Speaker 7: I do feel like Men's War Games definitely a heel win,
Speaker 7: which also changes like I was thinking maybe.
Speaker 1: Heals when Women's but that one I'll see you guys
Speaker 1: made sense.
Speaker 7: I don't think they want a j Lee losing like
Speaker 7: her second match back, So I think, yeah, women's faces
Speaker 7: when men heals.
Speaker 2: Win, Yeah, and it's just better story wise. Sets up
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, can says. Can we say the
Speaker 2: only match we care about is the Men's War Game? No,
Speaker 2: because aj Lee and Rie Ripple and Skyra and the
Speaker 2: Women's War Game. And I'm actually like the Women's War
Speaker 2: Game to me has made more sense story wise.
Speaker 5: Of the group's getting together.
Speaker 2: The Men's one feels the most force. It feels at
Speaker 2: times like a w universe like Logan Paul Drew McIntyre
Speaker 2: like it feels. And even then, like I know they've
Speaker 2: they haven't really explained it because I watched the ending
Speaker 2: of rubich about in the second but there's a moment
Speaker 2: where Brock when he f five's coding and he goes
Speaker 2: and he high fives Hayman. It's like they never explained
Speaker 2: how like they got on the same page, like they
Speaker 2: did a year long story of he went with Roman
Speaker 2: and they turn on him and all this stuff. But
Speaker 2: it's just like, nah, Brock and Paul they're just cool again,
Speaker 2: you know, Like the Men's one feels very like we
Speaker 2: need to do a war Games matches year or the
Speaker 2: women's to me one, I like a lot of the
Speaker 2: ladies in there, but it just feels more of a
Speaker 2: natural story of fors, like, Okay, a bunch of people
Speaker 2: are fighting, let's get together and I'll just screak in.
Speaker 2: And I don't think Brock is gonna wrestle first, unless
Speaker 2: you mean first of the night. Then if they were
Speaker 2: to switch those, if they were to have if they
Speaker 2: were to have like the Men's open, which I don't
Speaker 2: think they would, I still think the Heels would win.
Speaker 2: But even though that would be like a start on
Speaker 2: a downer night, I just think they'd have to do
Speaker 2: some sort of crazy spot. And like I said, like Logan, Paul,
Speaker 2: get fuck get brockd in the Shooting Star Press, make
Speaker 2: him bust it out again, he's gonna w You're gonna
Speaker 2: You're gonna do it. But no, I don't think they're gonna.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna flip them, just because I
Speaker 2: feel that's where the women I think have the more
Speaker 2: natural story. Because the vision and there's two world champions
Speaker 2: on the men's one, I think the men's one seems
Speaker 2: bigger on paper.
Speaker 4: That's why I don't think they'll do that, So, yeah,
Speaker 4: there there's so many storylines within the women's one where
Speaker 4: you have the tag championship storyline, and even within the
Speaker 4: Tag Championships, you've got Alexa Blisk facing off against Nia
Speaker 4: Jacksos who used to have the best friends storyline.
Speaker 3: You have Becky and aj you know.
Speaker 2: Just Charlotte two they can do that too, right.
Speaker 4: There's just so many built in mini storylines in there
Speaker 4: that it's it's just better. And then when it comes
Speaker 4: to the Vision versus the baby Faces, it's all right,
Speaker 4: let's take the big group of bad guys versus all
Speaker 4: the baby faces that we can gather, and here's your
Speaker 4: we need war against matches, kind of like how people
Speaker 4: talk about Helen to sale. It should be a feud ender,
Speaker 4: not a it's time for Helen to seal.
Speaker 2: And some of it's not their fault too, because like
Speaker 2: if Seth was here, that would work better too, right
Speaker 2: because with Sethi had the punk tie in in Roman,
Speaker 2: So it's not one hundred percent their fault because they
Speaker 2: lost the main piece of that story.
Speaker 4: But I do wish this was closer to Seth's return
Speaker 4: because it would be hilarious for him to pull a
Speaker 4: seam punk at the end of this and do the
Speaker 4: walk out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, any and then they could have them on
Speaker 2: the Men's like for Drama wor not. You though he'll
Speaker 2: never team up Roman again, but but yeah, I wanted
Speaker 2: to mention I'm hoping because I wasn't discord. I'm hoping
Speaker 2: after this all, Ste's stuck on SmackDown. But man, they
Speaker 2: need to give Cody like a good story or he
Speaker 2: needs to lose it to Drew because luckily you've cut
Speaker 2: that promo and SmackDown it was great. But I was
Speaker 2: sitting there. I was watching because I did I was
Speaker 2: going to tune up, but I was changing diapers. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll just keep this on. I'll see it's time, and
Speaker 2: so I watched. Okay, they come one by one of
Speaker 2: the heels and the baby faces and Cody gets his pop.
Speaker 5: But I realized, like when.
Speaker 2: Bro came down and him and Cody faced off, there
Speaker 2: was like a huge reception, and then when Roman came down,
Speaker 2: he got all that right, he got the hoop and everything.
Speaker 2: So it's just like we've talked about before where there's
Speaker 2: like rumored backstage politics between Roman and Cody, like trying
Speaker 2: to be the top guy. And I'm saying as a
Speaker 2: number one, Cody wants Cody Roads fanboy, Cody, you need
Speaker 2: to watch yourself because Roman is he's gain on you.
Speaker 1: The supposed rumor is that Roman didn't want to do
Speaker 1: the team with Cody unless they're fighting for the title.
Speaker 1: That madia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I'm glad that Cody, even if he lied
Speaker 2: about it or just said no, like you put them
Speaker 2: on the team, he should because like.
Speaker 1: You save us from Roman.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the tribal hair, you know, but like
Speaker 2: like that that's the thing to me. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Roman right now the reason he gets not the only reason,
Speaker 2: but he can get these big pops and sustain them
Speaker 2: be you know, kind of coming back up as the
Speaker 2: main guys because he does take these breaks right where
Speaker 2: That's where I get to Illinois, because like Cody's there
Speaker 2: every week, and he's there every week on Smack Dam
Speaker 2: where like they don't got much for him right now,
Speaker 2: you know, we're Roman. He just gets to come back
Speaker 2: and do his cool stuff. But I felt like the
Speaker 2: past few times that's happened, Cody was still neck and
Speaker 2: neckt but on Raw and it could just be that
Speaker 2: crowds this.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to be monitoring the situation.
Speaker 2: But on raw it's like, oh man, it felt like
Speaker 2: especially with the entrances, but it felt like Cody was
Speaker 2: a step below. So I'm interesting to see how Survivor
Speaker 2: series is and the interactions and the crowd reception, because
Speaker 2: it does feel like Roman's getting that momentum to be like, you.
Speaker 5: Know, he wants to be QB wonny and he wants
Speaker 5: to be the guy.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they'll probably do is just separate them
Speaker 2: and have them on separate brands. But you know, that's
Speaker 2: something that's going to be, like in real life, a
Speaker 2: potential issue because even when like Rock and Austin are
Speaker 2: great friends now, but that like like rest yeah, resume
Speaker 2: fifteen to seventeen, they said, like back in those days
Speaker 2: they didn't really get along because it was just that
Speaker 2: it was business of like well, no, I want to
Speaker 2: be on top, No, I want to be on top, right,
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, Cody, great job that promo on Friday.
Speaker 2: You gotta keep bringing you got to keep get the
Speaker 2: heat because I can feel that wave of momentum, and
Speaker 2: for me, it's gonna be really interesting to see what
Speaker 2: both their matches are because I actually think, like I
Speaker 2: know that is a rumor that he wants to do
Speaker 2: this j storyline, and I think if Roman does that
Speaker 2: JAS storyline, that will cool Roman off because I don't
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be a great story or a great match,
Speaker 2: And if you give Punk and Cody.
Speaker 5: A match, then they're gonna steal that many. But I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm really hoping my pitch is saying, Man, I've been
Speaker 2: pitching Ree and Stephanie. I really hope they just say
Speaker 2: fuck it and they do Punk and Roman Punk story
Speaker 2: you're laying down. We gave you the title Roman gets
Speaker 2: to win and then Raw after you start to set
Speaker 2: up Roman and bron because I just I just think
Speaker 2: Roman and Punk has so much juice and last year
Speaker 2: they barely tapped into it because they introduced Seth in
Speaker 2: the storyline, so it was like kind of awkward. Obviously
Speaker 2: it worked out, and that it didn't work out because
Speaker 2: the injury, but because they were setting up the vision.
Speaker 2: But like Roman and Punk, there's so much still meat
Speaker 2: on the bone there. But I don't know if they will,
Speaker 2: uh if they want to do that solely, So I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm interesting. The follow up of this match
Speaker 2: and see what could happen. But because we're gonna close
Speaker 2: to season, and like I said, Cody, I still know
Speaker 2: if it's even then, like if it's Punk and he
Speaker 2: was not Punk and Roman, like who would who would
Speaker 2: Punk lose the title to?
Speaker 5: Until then when they fucking have.
Speaker 2: Him lose to Braun and then Braun and Braun is
Speaker 2: like a WrestleMania title match, Like that sounds like a
Speaker 2: nightmare for me, Like, I don't know, do they have
Speaker 2: like Goonther get his win back? I think Punk because
Speaker 2: did we do a cast since punkin won the title?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I guess we were talking because that was like November first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it was close to the stream. So that's
Speaker 2: the thing, like I because I know even then there
Speaker 2: are people that and I didn't believe it, but people
Speaker 2: after the fact did say, yeah, there were talks they
Speaker 2: were thinking about going the punkin Cody the direction. I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, I I never bought that, but I
Speaker 2: guess so. But now obviously that could really change, and
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what would Like Punk's
Speaker 2: held the title longer than I thought he ever would
Speaker 2: to be honest, I always thought it would be like
Speaker 2: the Shawn Michaels run, like he'd be losing it now,
Speaker 2: but he's gonna have it at least, i'd say, until
Speaker 2: the Rumble. But then Chicago's just around the corner, so
Speaker 2: you not have them be champed at Chicago, Like I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: They're like winning the Chamber in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, but couldn't he also just be defending
Speaker 2: the title the Chamber in Chicago? Right? Like what if
Speaker 2: a Raw guy wins the Rumblin says hey, I'm coming
Speaker 2: after the Raw title and then you haven't went it there?
Speaker 2: Like now, I actually think there's a chance.
Speaker 1: Punk for like the Men's Rumble.
Speaker 5: It was Jay Lash with Gunther.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there was Cody who was on Raw
Speaker 2: when he won it, but he went for smack It
Speaker 2: actually was on Raw both times, and he went for SmackDown.
Speaker 7: So I think there was something about many of the
Speaker 7: serious like I think, oh no, it's that both the
Speaker 7: Rumble winners were on night one and both the Chamber
Speaker 7: winners were on night two.
Speaker 1: Is what I was thinking of.
Speaker 2: Okay, but yeah, what do you guys feel now? Because
Speaker 2: now punk has it. We kind of thought that would
Speaker 2: be the case, but you never know. JA, So they
Speaker 2: like the strap them. I do agree with people that
Speaker 2: it's gonna find like I do feel like the crowd
Speaker 2: yeni is dying a bit down when they do those panouts.
Speaker 1: Now it's no like on SmackDown that was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I did he smacked that a pop when he came out?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Was he Okay? So it's just maybe that rock crowd
Speaker 2: just sucked then, because that was the same crowd I
Speaker 2: saw when he came out, him and Jimmy and it
Speaker 2: was like it was like fifty I also sixty percent
Speaker 2: of the people doing it. But maybe that rock crowd
Speaker 2: just sucked because even the reception for Cody. But yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you guys see now that punks Champion, he's
Speaker 2: keeping this the maanium? Is he losing along the way?
Speaker 2: Like obviously, I don't think they're doing Cody and punk
Speaker 2: for title for title. They're not doing that again. So
Speaker 2: what are we thinking of a punk from the.
Speaker 4: I think he's keeping it till Mania and then losing
Speaker 4: it there.
Speaker 2: Okay, keeping the manium?
Speaker 3: Yeah, who to that one? I'm not sure. I initially
Speaker 3: I thought Gunther.
Speaker 2: Because the running back I would like him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they just they fit so well together. And
Speaker 4: then having Gunther win on the WrestleMania stage again, I
Speaker 4: could definitely see them again.
Speaker 2: He needs well, he lost the Sami and then lost.
Speaker 4: He needs him, he needs him have I mean that
Speaker 4: that title match on the WrestleMania stage. I'm sorry again,
Speaker 4: I see that being a thing, so you know. I
Speaker 4: plus they they love going through having him have a
Speaker 4: strong win against somebody likes seeing Punk, I think would
Speaker 4: just work for that.
Speaker 3: So that's what I think.
Speaker 4: I think that they're going to have him keep it
Speaker 4: through the Chicago match because they they're building up this
Speaker 4: Chicago return and things like that, and I think they
Speaker 4: wanted to do that, and the fact that Chicago had
Speaker 4: become the unofficial second home of a e W.
Speaker 3: I think pettally they they.
Speaker 4: Want to burn it down in Chicago and have that
Speaker 4: they're doing.
Speaker 1: The United Center to which they never do they only did.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and that's a tough thing. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of people where it's it's like the same thing. I'm
Speaker 2: with us, bubs, Like, I would be completely fine because
Speaker 2: I love Punk and Guth. I would be completely fine
Speaker 2: with them running the back. I think it'd be good
Speaker 2: for Gunther. He needs a big WrestleMania win. I don't
Speaker 2: think it will have them, but then if that's case, Like
Speaker 2: I still like, I don't know what they're doing with
Speaker 2: Gunther at Mania because I would have thought they did
Speaker 2: him in Brad.
Speaker 7: I feel like, I feel like we're getting like a
Speaker 7: Gunther I stare down like in the Rumble, and they're
Speaker 7: gonna do some matchups.
Speaker 2: It's a run back, I guess, Like, Yeah, it just
Speaker 2: feel like such a big step down like that to
Speaker 2: me should be like when il Ilia is going for
Speaker 2: like the world title and goother is holding that like
Speaker 2: for the the United States, like and then what like
Speaker 2: goun Thro wins the United States title, then he gets
Speaker 2: to be cut the fucking bad like foreign babyface. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like it's it's tough, and that's a good problem they
Speaker 2: have is they have lots of top guys, right, so
Speaker 2: when someone goes down injured, oh we could put that
Speaker 2: person there, put that person. But it's just it's just tough.
Speaker 2: And I like, I really don't hope they're doing Roman
Speaker 2: and J. Like they're doing Roman J. That's that's real
Speaker 2: bad in my opinion.
Speaker 4: They did like, here's something that would be funny and
Speaker 4: they could use it to sell merch.
Speaker 3: Goonther wins.
Speaker 4: The US title brings back the UK title so that
Speaker 4: they could sell those replica belts again.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not I'm not a pose. It'd be
Speaker 2: kind of fun, you know, the old school. They bring
Speaker 2: it back to the European title.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not gonna lie I that UK title belt.
Speaker 4: I used to love the look of that and I
Speaker 4: was like, it's an awesome so but I could see
Speaker 4: him bringing that back after winning the US title.
Speaker 2: Okay, I suppose you got what's your prediction for I
Speaker 2: literally have I guess I didn't say, well, I said
Speaker 2: GUO through Punk with time now, because I say I
Speaker 2: I really have nothing. I'm gonna just hail married and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that they're gonna pivot to Roman and Punk.
Speaker 2: I actually don't, but I just don't have any other
Speaker 2: route they could go. So that's what I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: that they're gonna wake up and be like, you know,
Speaker 2: let's just do this and Punk will agree to do business.
Speaker 2: But what's your prediction Gun through? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, Roman Punk is definitely possible.
Speaker 7: I'm kind of still on the Punk and Cody dream,
Speaker 7: but I do think it kind of be weird. I mean,
Speaker 7: I don't know, because it'd be weird to do like,
Speaker 7: let's say, like he loses it like at the Rumble
Speaker 7: and then like wins Shaver to go for like the
Speaker 7: other title for like you'd.
Speaker 2: Want to go for the one you lost when you
Speaker 2: like you want to go especially if it's a heel,
Speaker 2: like unless it's the baby Faces like a respect thing,
Speaker 2: It's like you would go for the heel, right, So
Speaker 2: that's why I could it be Cody that loses the title,
Speaker 2: but same thing, why would he go for Punk's world title?
Speaker 2: Like It's That's why I legitmately think those plans are
Speaker 2: off this year because I feel like it's an awkward
Speaker 2: way to get to Punk and Cody. Now now I
Speaker 2: feel like next year or whenever I think, or even
Speaker 2: a Summer Slam, they're definitely gonna do it. But now
Speaker 2: I just like with this year, I'm like, I even
Speaker 2: be fine Guther and Cody to be honest, because like
Speaker 2: I've liked that match they did that Rumble Stare down,
Speaker 2: like have gootherro win the Rumble and have goother and
Speaker 2: Cody and just build them and like he could beat
Speaker 2: Sina and then win the Rumble and go to Cody.
Speaker 2: You could believe you could beat Cody at Mania, you.
Speaker 7: Know, So, yeah, I have something for for Guther and
Speaker 7: not just oh yeah, when I was preaking, like and
Speaker 7: this is like a few podcasts or you're like, I
Speaker 7: forget what we were fantasy booking about. Long yeah, something
Speaker 7: like that where we were talking about Jericho plans at.
Speaker 1: Mania was a good third match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think.
Speaker 7: My my two predictions that I had for that one
Speaker 7: that were both like sort of me but sort of
Speaker 7: ones I think could actually happen. Both actually do have
Speaker 7: a chance of happening, one of which was Jericho versus
Speaker 7: versus Gunther and they do like they just try to
Speaker 7: have a good match to for Jeredo to say.
Speaker 1: Look I can I can still.
Speaker 7: And then my other, my other pick that said I
Speaker 7: could see happening is he tries to find a young
Speaker 7: guy to help and put over, and my put over
Speaker 7: it just means beeding them, which would be Jericho versus
Speaker 7: Dom for the Icy title.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this is like the greatest.
Speaker 1: Icy Champion of all time, so I do that more.
Speaker 2: Than the Guther one. I think Gunther he would go like,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I think for Mania might put
Speaker 2: his foot down I'm not doing because they we have
Speaker 2: heard of times where Goo Thro was like because apparently
Speaker 2: he didn't want to lose to Chad Gable, like, I'm
Speaker 2: not doing that. So I think with Jericho he would
Speaker 2: for Raw or Saturdays may have been sure. WrestleMania, I
Speaker 2: don't know about that, but yeah, I guess we'll have
Speaker 2: to see and like, do we have anything non or
Speaker 2: just to w be related to talk about before we
Speaker 2: go to full gear here, I got a perfect transition,
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna use it till I know we're
Speaker 2: in the clear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Okay, it comes back up, will circle back, but you know,
Speaker 2: just to do because just on Instagram, Bailey has posted
Speaker 2: this photo of her and Christatlander together listen to my
Speaker 2: pitch awesome because she did the Baile belly but you
Speaker 2: know good way transition.
Speaker 7: That On Twitter also she posted like like a photo
Speaker 7: her stuff like right as the move happened.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't miss that, you know, Pam, just do it.
Speaker 2: Just take the chance, Just come on over come out
Speaker 2: you Mercedes, and you get a proper women's tag title.
Speaker 2: Run lots of fun stuff we could do over here.
Speaker 2: You're doing nothing there, like come on, just come over.
Speaker 2: But last night was gear. I saw every match but
Speaker 2: the women's like multi like whatever, cause last night we
Speaker 2: were filming a geek first I had to watch half
Speaker 2: last night the backupf and then this morning I didn't
Speaker 2: have time to watch like the four teams winning together,
Speaker 2: so I don't know what happened there, but watch the
Speaker 2: rest of the car there. And they also did the
Speaker 2: full thing again where they had like the pre show match,
Speaker 2: like go over. It's like you can do that again,
Speaker 2: but don't do that right after you just did it,
Speaker 2: like it feels.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not I'm not a fan of doing that
Speaker 4: running that back to back. Yeah, one offs here and there,
Speaker 4: maybe doing it once a year, okay, but let's not
Speaker 4: have that be the thing of oh you have to
Speaker 4: tune in because it's gonna bleed up. No, can we
Speaker 4: just I miss the full on start of a pay
Speaker 4: per view, just having the proportions, having the promo, all
Speaker 4: that other things and then going into your big match,
Speaker 4: like unless that leadoff match is something that is a
Speaker 4: good match that you think to yourself, man, why isn't
Speaker 4: this on the main show and then it bleeds over?
Speaker 3: Okay, but just every single time.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, and the FTR one to me made sense
Speaker 2: of one. They're kind of setting up FTR to be
Speaker 2: the TACH Champions, which was talk about, so it's okay,
Speaker 2: get them on the main car technically, and to me
Speaker 2: that was just fun where now if you do it,
Speaker 2: you start to getting like, Okay, I'm worried that's gonna
Speaker 2: be tough about like TK things they got. He likes
Speaker 2: to spam and I'm worre that's gonna be something now, like, oh,
Speaker 2: we gotta make sure because I can see the pitch
Speaker 2: of Oh people might buy it to see the end result,
Speaker 2: but I don't think they've seen the end result of
Speaker 2: like the CML six man tag like and the difference
Speaker 2: too the FTR versus Jetsby that was for nothing, but
Speaker 2: the match was great, so it was like really it
Speaker 2: was like, okay, I do want to finish.
Speaker 5: This for the CML, Like yeah, it was final, but uh,
Speaker 5: Kevin is right.
Speaker 2: If you're a vampire like drink blood, last night was
Speaker 2: for you and that coz in like actually one of
Speaker 2: my cons of this where I thought this was a
Speaker 2: good show, I would have to look. I think this
Speaker 2: was maybe for me, the weakest aw show of the year.
Speaker 2: And it's not some matches I don't think delivered, but
Speaker 2: also is just the pacing of them. And I told
Speaker 2: them this word where to have like two like pretty
Speaker 2: much no DQ matches back to back and then the
Speaker 2: steelcage and all of them were blood like. It felt
Speaker 2: very same sy near the end, like to me, you
Speaker 2: have to sprinkle that out.
Speaker 5: It's what we've talked about before.
Speaker 2: And just when you're watching aesthetical lies if you're doing
Speaker 2: these long shows and you're not in a specific territory,
Speaker 2: do the fucking the afternoon pair views, because this morning
Speaker 2: I watched Joe or Sorry, I watched Darby and Pak
Speaker 2: and I watched FTR versus Bendito. The crowd for those
Speaker 2: matches super hot. They're super into it. All the near falls,
Speaker 2: the last three matches event you could think they're not
Speaker 2: like any main event matches all it is very quiet.
Speaker 2: Of course there's some big spots they still cheer and what,
Speaker 2: but it's like throughout it takes a while. So that
Speaker 2: really felt it, but I just felt the pacing was
Speaker 2: like a little bit off of the show. So I
Speaker 2: still had a good time, but I think it just
Speaker 2: there was, like I said, the pacing, the booking of it,
Speaker 2: the match order, and just certain things like we told
Speaker 2: about before, don't have to be Like I like seeing
Speaker 2: all the women, but I'd rather just let them do
Speaker 2: their semi finals on this match kick a couple of
Speaker 2: the match, you know, like instead of.
Speaker 1: Doing like the four way Women's tag, like you could have.
Speaker 7: Just done like one of those semi finals matches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Like to me, it's just there's this card
Speaker 2: and things about it. You could just recycle or re order,
Speaker 2: change a few things and the show would be better overall.
Speaker 2: So I still had a good time with it, but
Speaker 2: I think it was one of their weaker ones where
Speaker 2: I think has been unfortunate because I do think that
Speaker 2: like AWTV is like there, it's not that they're they're
Speaker 2: not directions right now, they're just stuck in a lot
Speaker 2: of the similar storylines that have been for a while.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping with the Elite and with Swerve back, which
Speaker 2: we'll talk about, I'm hoping we're kinda gonna get some
Speaker 2: new juice and some new directions, but then you still
Speaker 2: have on this card like Ricochet and Bobby Lashley fighting again,
Speaker 2: so it's like, fuck, like are we doing?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm for a lot of this card and the results.
Speaker 2: I have a wait and see attitude. But the show itself,
Speaker 2: I thought was a good show, not a great show.
Speaker 2: But David, what do you think of a full gear?
Speaker 3: I think the same thing.
Speaker 4: I think it started off strong, Honestly, the opening match
Speaker 4: was my favorite of the matches, and I think a
Speaker 4: lot of that has to do with As the final
Speaker 4: matches got going, with all the blood, with everything else,
Speaker 4: it started to feel very repetitive.
Speaker 3: When I was watching.
Speaker 4: The women's match with all four teams, I thought to
Speaker 4: myself that, and I started thinking about the tag team
Speaker 4: ladder match that they had during the pandemic where everyone
Speaker 4: was injured so they had one person from each team
Speaker 4: compete for the titles. I was thinking, it was like, man,
Speaker 4: I would rather they have done this one person from
Speaker 4: each team. They do a fatal four way that way,
Speaker 4: and then whoever wins, whoever wins that their team gets
Speaker 4: to pick the stipulation.
Speaker 2: In their corner too, and you have like brawl on
Speaker 2: the outside, like you get them all screen time too,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know everyone still gets shine because you know
Speaker 4: it's a fatal four way, so there's no dqs. You
Speaker 4: can have the partners interfere here and there, but it
Speaker 4: just it mixes it up a little bit because I
Speaker 4: don't think a full on eight man tag was really
Speaker 4: what was needed. So and there was just some other
Speaker 4: nitpicky item that I was just like, okay, and the
Speaker 4: ending felt very flat. There were times when I felt
Speaker 4: like the crowd was just completely dead during uh some
Speaker 4: of samo Joe's spots, and I felt bad for him
Speaker 4: because I was like, all right, he's doing his.
Speaker 2: Best to die. He's bleeding the whole court of blood
Speaker 2: and no one's reacting at all. Like that's one of
Speaker 2: the biggest blade jobs I've seen in this maybe ever,
Speaker 2: but definitely this decade, or it's.
Speaker 4: Up there with the Eddie Guerrero JBL match, like it
Speaker 4: is up there.
Speaker 2: When he held his title up, he like the bloods out.
Speaker 2: He's multiple time, it's not like he's multi and this
Speaker 2: is at the end of the match. He got busted
Speaker 2: open maybe two minutes endued or something. Like he's literally
Speaker 2: splitting blood out. Okay minutes, He's literally like you splin
Speaker 2: blood and even I love there's a shot when Swerve
Speaker 2: came out, like it looked like Joe wasn't paying attention
Speaker 2: to all because he like he did. He's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, Like he was just like I'm fucking bleeding
Speaker 2: so much and he's like trying to sell this return.
Speaker 2: He's like, I just want to get to the back,
Speaker 2: but he can't use the towel because he wants to
Speaker 2: look cool, so he's just like, oh my god, like
Speaker 2: what's happening.
Speaker 4: I felt bad for one of the members of the
Speaker 4: Ops Dojo because he's wearing a pair of all white
Speaker 4: Air Forces and he gets knocked out and you can
Speaker 4: just see the bottom of him a red They are
Speaker 4: just covered in blood.
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, dude, you're not getting but he took
Speaker 2: his bump and he got up. He was covered in blood.
Speaker 7: He looked like, yeah, there's like one of the corners
Speaker 7: they were fighting him, like the ropes like near the
Speaker 7: rig post were like complete.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, well, and that's what I know was first
Speaker 2: because like it was an awkward shot where Joe was
Speaker 2: in the corner and he's doing the boots and stuff
Speaker 2: and you can tell he's bleeding, but what when he
Speaker 2: got up and that bottom turn buckle was just covered like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, he's got a gusher there. And that's
Speaker 2: where it's like, I'm not some guy from the like
Speaker 2: a Bolli Ray podcaster. It's just like people bleed too much.
Speaker 2: But like that was the problem with Kyle Riley and
Speaker 2: Moxley doing that, and then Fletcher and Brisco not only
Speaker 2: in the same night but doing it so close. It
Speaker 2: almost like lost the effect for people. But imagine last
Speaker 2: night no one bled and then that was it. It
Speaker 2: would have like, really it still felt like that, but
Speaker 2: it really would have had like a big.
Speaker 7: Revolution when like Tony did like the crazy Blade job.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to think if anyone on that show before
Speaker 7: that match was.
Speaker 1: Like really bleeding, I can't really that much.
Speaker 5: I don't think so, but match hard, but yeah.
Speaker 7: Because I remember people saying like that was a really
Speaker 7: good blade on like one people remember, and I don't
Speaker 7: think so. I mean maybe if they did, they weren't that.
Speaker 2: Much or I don't think so, because here the matches
Speaker 2: before it was hangman MGF.
Speaker 5: That was just like a like a wrestling one.
Speaker 2: And then it was Mercedes versus Momo Want Nabby Swore
Speaker 2: versus Ricochet, and then o'ct versus Brody and Hurt Syndicate
Speaker 2: versus the Outrunners, which are definitely not have any Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's why and that's why the Joe thing would
Speaker 2: have it still hit because the amount he was bleeding.
Speaker 2: But if they and even if you want to have
Speaker 2: another blood match, then put Kyle on uh marks first
Speaker 2: or something, yeah, like and I and even then Kyle won,
Speaker 2: But so it's like a babyface wins. It's a like
Speaker 2: it was. That's where stuff like the Joe thing, it's
Speaker 2: just to kind of robbed him with the crowd and
Speaker 2: they robbed him with the booking of when the match was.
Speaker 4: So Yeah, after the Joe O'Riley won, I felt like
Speaker 4: people were just kind of burnt out. And then again
Speaker 4: you get to that final match and it's there were
Speaker 4: moments and other than some people like I was confused,
Speaker 4: was there something special going on that Hangman came out
Speaker 4: to the song from Red Dead Redemption and had I
Speaker 4: don't know, it was just weird. I thought that that
Speaker 4: was like the beginning of a promo package, like how
Speaker 4: they had the girl who whistled him out one time,
Speaker 4: or how they've had other times where you know, he
Speaker 4: does something and then it gets to his music.
Speaker 3: I'm like, he just changed back.
Speaker 4: To his his baby music, and now you have him
Speaker 4: coming out to the music from Red Dead.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, is it?
Speaker 4: Because I was like, is it because Will Ospbrey's not
Speaker 4: on the show, so you need it somebody to have
Speaker 4: some type of tie in.
Speaker 2: I did like the stage though, the stage because when
Speaker 2: he came out, it was like a triangle stage and
Speaker 2: when he walked I did actually.
Speaker 1: Like the kid, was there any major like d C Like.
Speaker 4: Meghan Bain and Penelope did Harley and Poison Ivy.
Speaker 5: They've done that before, they did the Halloween episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: They've been they've been having the DC sponsorship across the
Speaker 4: side rails for the last couple of weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, because I remember like they were specifically
Speaker 7: like every time like Shrevan you would like read the
Speaker 7: it was like full gear presented by d C. Like
Speaker 7: it was like and like the log like on the
Speaker 7: stage it had like the big DC logo and everything.
Speaker 1: So I was just surprised, like.
Speaker 4: From anything nothing still and Ricochet has that that night gear,
Speaker 4: like there were so many.
Speaker 1: Options to use because that gear.
Speaker 2: I don't like that gear, but bust out for the
Speaker 2: show though, you know at the DC show, like oh
Speaker 2: I got him win the title, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, DC Superheroes just not that gear.
Speaker 2: What did you think the show? I supposed before we
Speaker 2: go match by match here.
Speaker 1: Like, like I said, I didn't see all of that.
Speaker 1: I really tuned in for like the last half, so
Speaker 1: it was it was more noticeable, well for me, I
Speaker 1: guess the crowd.
Speaker 7: I guess I came into it with like not much,
Speaker 7: but I mean from the matches I did see, I
Speaker 7: enjoyed it, and yeah, I tuned in for the ones
Speaker 7: I was really most interesting. So we'll talk about that
Speaker 7: once we get to to talk about the matches one
Speaker 7: by one.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then we started.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, I was just gonna say from what
Speaker 7: I saw, good show and I saw people liking it.
Speaker 7: Besides really the the ending of the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get there. We started with a pawk in
Speaker 2: Darby who Park because just fucking taking like the incredible
Speaker 2: fulk syndrome. He is massive and I even said, because
Speaker 2: I haven't seen himrestle, I'm like, I wonder if he
Speaker 2: can still do all his flips and stuff. He's still moving,
Speaker 2: still doing it. It's just this guy is a freaking nature.
Speaker 2: But uh right, like right, I really liked this match.
Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I think Darby is his
Speaker 2: best when either he's in weapons.
Speaker 5: Or he's vers in a really big dude.
Speaker 2: Go watch him and Joe on dynamite one year. That
Speaker 2: was incredible. And now Pak is a big dude, even
Speaker 2: though he's like a cruiser, Like wait, he's like a
Speaker 2: big dude now. The only thing I would change is
Speaker 2: I don't think he needed any interference to beat Darby.
Speaker 2: He's recovering from burns. Great spot where he takes off
Speaker 2: the bandages, and I think there were like some gimmicked
Speaker 2: fake like welts, but they had welts on Darby's arm
Speaker 2: and he starts to snake bite it. It's like, oh
Speaker 2: that like they made Pauk so evil, And I was like,
Speaker 2: you don't need like, it's fine with Darby loses because
Speaker 2: he's recovering from second degree burns here. But of course
Speaker 2: I sposed boy Yuda came in interfere and then he'd
Speaker 2: used the bat. But I love the entrance. I love
Speaker 2: Darby in the hospital. I love when he came down
Speaker 2: with the big jack covering like his burns and everything
Speaker 2: like very good. Like h Darby is obviously like I'm
Speaker 2: glad they didn't do it all in but Darby is
Speaker 2: given that energy like you could strap him with the
Speaker 2: world title soon. I think they're gonna in the next
Speaker 2: year or so. I guess that depends on Osprey, but
Speaker 2: even then you can give him mcfully run. But I've
Speaker 2: had this thing too, like.
Speaker 7: That Hangman rain was just to give it to the
Speaker 7: fans before they get back to the real.
Speaker 2: Pretty much pretty much maybe, but I don't know which
Speaker 2: way they're gonna go, if they're gonna with Moxley, because
Speaker 2: we all know we'll get there. Mox's can kicked out
Speaker 2: very soon. He's tapped up for the third time in
Speaker 2: a month. And even then, like I did, yeah, and
Speaker 2: even on the in the video win or on the
Speaker 2: pair of you Lesa, when Moxley left to the crowd,
Speaker 2: they just had the shot of Claudio and Garcias staring
Speaker 2: at each other for like ten seconds and was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: they're gonna moff him out. But my question is just
Speaker 2: like who's the leader? And I think they're gonna give
Speaker 2: it to Claudio, but like, I would prefer Pak to
Speaker 2: be honest, and I think he's more vicious and he's
Speaker 2: a better promo than Claudio. Decide four rings, one corner.
Speaker 2: Uh you've seen that pipe on before? Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: the worst you could tell there. Give him a shot
Speaker 2: like go say what you want and he flubbed his
Speaker 2: lines and as a Claudio like big Homer versus, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh no, you lost, and then he jobbed
Speaker 2: out the bad news Barrett. But I kind of would
Speaker 2: prefer Pauk to be the leader. They might do a leader,
Speaker 2: they might just do a group thing. Fuck, they may
Speaker 2: make Marina the leader, which would be cool because she's
Speaker 2: been also like doing great stuff lately too. But I
Speaker 2: I it wasn't my favorite match, David, but I think
Speaker 2: it was my second favorite. I love I loved this
Speaker 2: one all. It was a good real opener for the
Speaker 2: pay or the pay per view.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I like some spots in here, like the
Speaker 4: Darby dropkick to the outside to this set.
Speaker 2: All bad bump for everybody, Bad bump for everybody in
Speaker 2: a good way, but like Darby's just landing on his
Speaker 2: ass in the concrete Bowk's taking all the momentum.
Speaker 5: Thank god, he's jacked to the gills, but like, oh my.
Speaker 4: God, the bron Breaker style Larry from Pop when he's
Speaker 4: just he's back and forth and it just hits with
Speaker 4: that lariat man and then that shot with the bat
Speaker 4: at the end. I mean, he took Darby's head off
Speaker 4: with that, and I was just like, yeah, this was
Speaker 4: pretty good. So I like the match overall, and I
Speaker 4: think again, the fact that it wasn't all blood, like
Speaker 4: they just went out there and just went for it
Speaker 4: is what solidifies it as my favorite of the night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paul came off as a nasty heel and there
Speaker 2: there was no blood. He just came off as like
Speaker 2: a big bully and he was just like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: hurt this guy before I beat him, and he did. Also,
Speaker 2: he's still cheap, but like that's what it felt like
Speaker 2: at times. Didn't feel like he was trying to win
Speaker 2: the match, just like I'm going to injure this guy
Speaker 2: more and he didn't need blood. It was now a
Speaker 2: couple of bandages got the job. Done.
Speaker 4: You know, I could have gone without the wheeler you
Speaker 4: to spot. I could go without Wheeler you to period.
Speaker 2: But it just, oh my god, I'll defend him a little,
Speaker 2: not today, but a little.
Speaker 4: He's just the snipe guy who runs in there and
Speaker 4: just looks like a weasel, and that's his role now.
Speaker 3: But of that, no, they had They.
Speaker 4: Had a great match with a lot of great spots
Speaker 4: and like they truly truly went for it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, cool, David did anything
Speaker 2: on the four way tag match with the women, we
Speaker 2: didn't see it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, So I will say this, the entrances really
Speaker 4: they let some PAP per views they don't and some
Speaker 4: shows with WW they don't let the entrances really breathe
Speaker 4: like they rush, and they may let like one Insurance
Speaker 4: really shine, but they don't let all of them. For this,
Speaker 4: I was glad that they let all these participants have
Speaker 4: their entrances and have their fun with it. Every woman
Speaker 4: in this did get a chance to shine. But like
Speaker 4: I said, I wish it would have just been one
Speaker 4: from each team with then you could have had your
Speaker 4: partner out there, but just one for each team. Fatal
Speaker 4: four way to see who gets hit.
Speaker 3: I Now.
Speaker 4: My favorite spot though, was Megan Bank does this h
Speaker 4: pressing drop and she drops her opponent onto Marina who's
Speaker 4: lying on the ground waiting to receive, and drops her
Speaker 4: into a sleeper And I was like that was pretty dope.
Speaker 3: But th that was just like all right, the women
Speaker 3: got their shine.
Speaker 4: Tony Storm wins, cool match, but nothing to really write
Speaker 4: home about.
Speaker 3: And that is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Megan Main, they got something special. I can't
Speaker 2: remember when her contract I know she's done recently, but
Speaker 2: they gotta be careful with her.
Speaker 7: They with her is like she was signed for like
Speaker 7: a full year nothing. They didn't use her at all,
Speaker 7: So I don't really know when her contract is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they gotta be careful.
Speaker 2: I just feel like w W would snipe that one
Speaker 2: because she she's got a lot of time. I actually
Speaker 2: have my prediction. I feel like she's gonna beat Chris
Speaker 2: for the world title. I think that's whenever they do that.
Speaker 2: I think that's the message here and her Marina, like
Speaker 2: I don't want Panela before to be out this because
Speaker 2: she got injured. That sucks. She should have been there,
Speaker 2: But meya May Marina have actually worked quite well together
Speaker 2: as a team and even Arena. She's like really finally
Speaker 2: coming into her own here, because for a while she
Speaker 2: was i'll say very like she was fine, but like
Speaker 2: and even that.
Speaker 5: It's just the character amount.
Speaker 2: But uh, after that, we had my favorite match and
Speaker 2: I f TR and I'm a mark for my loser's broddo.
Speaker 2: Tony Kahan, you bastard. You better. It's better not be
Speaker 2: the end of it. It's better not be like, oh
Speaker 2: that was fun, and we never return this again. I
Speaker 2: still will stand by. I don't think Edge and Christian
Speaker 2: and FTR need the titles they pile drove Edge's wife.
Speaker 2: They don't also need We'll come for you and those
Speaker 2: tech titles like I know what I can hear the
Speaker 2: promo ready like and you know how can hurts you
Speaker 2: the most is by taking those like I know what
Speaker 2: they're gonna do. Please don't don't put them in that
Speaker 2: I know they're gonna I thought about the last night.
Speaker 2: I was like, please don't do them in TLC. Don't
Speaker 2: make them because Edge is gonna go fucking crazy and
Speaker 2: he's gonna do something you should God, don't he broke
Speaker 2: his It's like the Bronson Reid thing. Don't do it again.
Speaker 2: But this match for me was great. I love Broddo
Speaker 2: so much. They like like that's the Awards tag team
Speaker 2: we are, like you fucking know, I'm picking, Like the
Speaker 2: last night was so good, the drama, the attention, they're
Speaker 2: combo moves like that. I just love them so much.
Speaker 2: In FTR when they're put in the position where they
Speaker 2: you know, they're not with the out runners, they're just
Speaker 2: doing some comedy stuff, like they are probably still the
Speaker 2: best tag I'll say they're the best tag team of
Speaker 2: like the last decade. They are up there with the
Speaker 2: great So this was fantastic. They already had a really
Speaker 2: good match before, but they got longer time here and
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I hope there's a history where edgend Christian
Speaker 2: beat FTR and Brodio beat edgend Christian, Like I do
Speaker 2: not want this to be done. I feel like, for
Speaker 2: the first time since Alister Black or Malcoli Black LEFTR,
Speaker 2: like like Brodie Kings felt like a like important to
Speaker 2: the show, not just like, oh, he's really dangerous and
Speaker 2: then they jobs to every fucking guy on the roster
Speaker 2: and Bandido. It's great they's las champion, but not enough
Speaker 2: people are watching Orah to like.
Speaker 1: Know that run.
Speaker 7: I feel like out the Irish title and like if
Speaker 7: they do break up, Brodito like he needs to be
Speaker 7: going for like the world.
Speaker 2: Yes, like I agree, I rh is like an anchor
Speaker 2: to these people. But yeah, that that was my match.
Speaker 2: Then I was brotein FTR.
Speaker 5: I just love this.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be very sad if like next week
Speaker 2: on Dynamite Bendino eats like a fucking crow clothes on
Speaker 2: from Brodie King and they're doing like Brody King versus
Speaker 2: Bandio for RHL. I could see them doing that. I
Speaker 2: really don't want them to. Like the juice is not there.
Speaker 2: You get one match cool, the juices in make Brotito
Speaker 2: long term tag team. They can do single stuff. But
Speaker 2: uh no, I thought this was great. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess we're maybe at world's end. I guess FDR edging
Speaker 2: Christian titles and and I get it. You want them
Speaker 2: to have the lineage. I'm not opposed them.
Speaker 1: That's the next show in the in Canada, they'll do it.
Speaker 2: Can't do in Toronto. I guess you can't do it.
Speaker 2: You can't do it there, But uh yeah, Dave, what
Speaker 2: do you think of this one?
Speaker 3: I thought it was a good match.
Speaker 4: I really liked Stokeley's entrance beforehand, with a nod to
Speaker 4: the movie Belly with the entrance, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: But then Jeff for FTR to come out like normal,
Speaker 4: I thought it's gonna be a full of interest.
Speaker 3: No, it was just a moment for Stokely to shine, which.
Speaker 2: I see in Stoked.
Speaker 5: Did you see when Sookely didn't catch Brody too?
Speaker 2: That was yeah, real bad.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of that last.
Speaker 2: Night where it's he's doing a spot where Cash is
Speaker 2: on ars, Dax's outside, Brody is gonna do the suicide dive.
Speaker 2: So the spot is sok is gonna push Dak, so
Speaker 2: he takes the hit. He pushed him so much that
Speaker 2: when Brody went it was just nothing but floor. He's
Speaker 2: sold like he hit him, but he like he like over.
Speaker 2: He took one too many steps and poor Brody just
Speaker 2: landed right on the fucking congrete And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I think, and so I don't forget
Speaker 2: fucking Lucasaurs did that the Nick Jackson later on the
Speaker 2: night where Nick Jackson did like the flip.
Speaker 7: Who were at the show, I saw multiple people saying
Speaker 7: like the crowd was already like getting tired, but like
Speaker 7: Nick Jackson, like that bump was like it like silence crowd.
Speaker 2: All he looked bad, but all what happens And I
Speaker 2: think like just slipped getting up fine.
Speaker 7: But like I saw from multiple people like who tweeted
Speaker 7: like like that was like the moment that like got
Speaker 7: people like.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And you can tell for a second you
Speaker 2: look at his face, he's a little pissed. It's like
Speaker 2: he's doing this flip and what's there to catch him?
Speaker 2: And Kenny broke character like you can see he may
Speaker 2: look like he's tongue lutrasaurus, but he was definitely looking
Speaker 2: at Nick like you are you good? Like there's two
Speaker 2: times last night where the big like these people are
Speaker 2: doing big flips or a big guy and they're just
Speaker 2: getting drap. They're getting the Tiffany Stratton this thing. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 4: I felt so bad for Brody, But I did like
Speaker 4: the finishing sequence to this, and I love the moment
Speaker 4: with Brotito where he's just facing off and he's staggering,
Speaker 4: but he gets up and he does the finger guns. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I was just like, all right, So it's it was
Speaker 4: good shine for.
Speaker 3: Them even in losing.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm anxious to see where they if they
Speaker 4: continued the Brodido paths, if they both go on to
Speaker 4: you know, have a singles run but still look good
Speaker 4: because like I said, even though they the championships, they
Speaker 4: looked amazing in this match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't. Like I said, they've they found lightning
Speaker 2: in a bottle here, so just just keep it up,
Speaker 2: keep doing it so we'll see next we have. And
Speaker 2: this was a match we had the Gauntlet, we had
Speaker 2: Ricochet winning here the national Championship. I'm all negative on
Speaker 2: this one for the most part because I saw on
Speaker 2: Twitter loss people like this is the best one. I
Speaker 2: cannot be on that thing. I did not like the
Speaker 2: opening of Shelton and Bobby just like like pretending to
Speaker 2: chain wrestle for two until someone came in. I hate
Speaker 2: Ricochet as a winner for what they did doing with
Speaker 2: it lately because I said this before. They made him
Speaker 2: look like an idiot. But then they did this like
Speaker 2: psychle loser gimmick. That was cool. But then this week
Speaker 2: they had Bobby literally just like local town job or
Speaker 2: him in a match like Ricochet got a few things
Speaker 2: of offense and something that was because people were interfering form.
Speaker 2: So for me, this title like right off the bat,
Speaker 2: I don't care about it because you just had this
Speaker 2: guy who just got jobbed out like three days four
Speaker 2: days ago with the title. Maybe if they find a
Speaker 2: way to do like really old school and now he
Speaker 2: can't do like old school Rickclairer because of the idea is, oh,
Speaker 2: he's a he always finds a way to win. But
Speaker 2: it's like Rick could still like wrestle, where like Rico
Speaker 2: Ricochet couldn't this week. So I get like, in a
Speaker 2: couple of months, they'll forget that and Ricochet will be
Speaker 2: putting on four Stars and flipping around. I have no
Speaker 2: problem with him as wrestler, but I hated just most
Speaker 2: about this. I think the match was like fun enough,
Speaker 2: Gallin's are always fun, but I hated a lot of
Speaker 2: the decision making in this, and Ricochet was it was
Speaker 2: not the time. But I think they're just roaring him
Speaker 2: because he's taken a lot of big time losses since
Speaker 2: he's been here.
Speaker 7: So there was a rumor that he was supposedly gonna
Speaker 7: win the T and T title earlier this year, and
Speaker 7: like plans changed.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this I have in my notes for
Speaker 4: this match set. It was a wasted opportunity to start
Speaker 4: off with Bobby and Shelton because I feel like they
Speaker 4: could have had more wrestling moments. They locked up a
Speaker 4: little bit some freestyle wrestling, then they would back up
Speaker 4: and it was just like a real waste of time. Now,
Speaker 4: it was a funny spot with Ricochet when he had
Speaker 4: the mic and he was driving into MVP. He's like,
Speaker 4: you see that, Aha, that's five big booms right there,
Speaker 4: So that's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be defending that title again soon. It's fucking aj
Speaker 2: boom or whatever he has to me laughed.
Speaker 4: The attempted suicide dive to the outside where he gets
Speaker 4: upper cut it by Claudio, I was like, God damn,
Speaker 4: But I don't think that for this being the first
Speaker 4: time that this belt is being presented to somebody, having
Speaker 4: it in this style of match, I don't think was
Speaker 4: the best style to annoy somebody. Now, if there was
Speaker 4: a situation where someone got injured and we had a
Speaker 4: vacated championship, or you were doing this for the right
Speaker 4: to face off for the inaugural championship, okay, but for
Speaker 4: this to be the crowning moment and then have it
Speaker 4: as a just slide and roll up steal.
Speaker 3: The match type deal. I don't know. I really didn't
Speaker 3: fit for me.
Speaker 7: I will say another spot I really liked in this
Speaker 7: match was when the Death Riders were doing like their
Speaker 7: train of upper cuts in the corner and he just.
Speaker 1: Like ran in and joined them. I thought that was
Speaker 1: really funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the look at the title too. I
Speaker 2: like the Classic like very NWA eighty.
Speaker 7: Then it's just like the Peoples. It is just the
Speaker 7: NWA one with aw.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I like that. We had Kyle Riley versus
Speaker 2: John Moxley. John Mosley tapped again. Thought this was good,
Speaker 2: but again I would have had this somewhere else or
Speaker 2: just a straight match because we're getting weapons and blood later. Uh,
Speaker 2: it just became a fork match pretty much. And uh
Speaker 2: yeah it was. This match was good, but I thought
Speaker 2: it was going to be better. But I will say
Speaker 2: that I appreciate that Kyle Riley has his big performance
Speaker 2: and blood and guts. He gets to win there, he
Speaker 2: gets to win here. This is I think a bad
Speaker 2: TK trait sometimes they are. Now, okay, follow up, put
Speaker 2: Kyle Riley in the Cornell Classic. Have him get some
Speaker 2: actual wins against big people and not just have this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I pushed him for a month and I
Speaker 2: love Kyle.
Speaker 1: Riley, know what it was that there? I think I'm depressor.
Speaker 7: Tony said that Kyle was like injured and not gonna
Speaker 7: be in the sea too fucking grist.
Speaker 2: I guess again. I won't blame them there because if
Speaker 2: he's injured, then that happens. But that sucks because it
Speaker 2: feels like Kyle Riley since he's been in the AW
Speaker 2: been super lost. It felt like when they did the
Speaker 2: Undisputed era that was gonna be the moment where all
Speaker 2: we can get them back, like keat them up that
Speaker 2: didn't really work and Anticles injured, so it felt like
Speaker 2: for the first time ever he finally was gonna momentum.
Speaker 5: So that really sucks.
Speaker 2: But how this was like like they got good like
Speaker 2: you know, classic Moxley beat him up type of thing.
Speaker 2: This was more about we need Moxley to lose again.
Speaker 2: And I thought there's a great shot when he tapped out.
Speaker 2: They just zoomed out and you can see Marina on
Speaker 2: the outside just looking so disappointed by him, Like I
Speaker 2: think they're doing this stuff, the story stuff well, I'll say,
Speaker 2: maybe he didn't need to need to be as long either,
Speaker 2: there's twenty minutes, let them have fifteen. Like I, I
Speaker 2: appreciate it for the storytelling aspect of where we're going.
Speaker 5: Just didn't need the blood. Didn't mean how long, just
Speaker 5: that's it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I had some of the same notes.
Speaker 4: My favorite spot was the arm in the chair spot
Speaker 4: because that looked just amazing, like, Okay, you guys are
Speaker 4: really going for it.
Speaker 3: My biggest complaint was.
Speaker 4: That for the card overall, three of the final four
Speaker 4: matches are all bloody matches, and I'm like, again, we
Speaker 4: don't need it over you so often it takes away
Speaker 4: from it. And then yeah, Mak's tapping again, Marina looking
Speaker 4: just disheveled, and then when she goes to help him
Speaker 4: walk out, she's given him just like the biggest side.
Speaker 4: I like, you could tell she she's just frustrated. I
Speaker 4: did wonder that if because he gave him kind of
Speaker 4: the nod and then he went to go walk out
Speaker 4: if maybe you know, they signaled that Kyle was injured,
Speaker 4: so they called in audible to have them go back
Speaker 4: in and beat them up some more to take him
Speaker 4: out since he was injured. You know it was that way,
Speaker 4: ye acause yeah, it was just it was weird the
Speaker 4: way that it happened with all right, he's doing his celebration,
Speaker 4: Moxy's walking away, then all of a sudden they just changing.
Speaker 3: Okay, everyone rush it out now.
Speaker 2: Especially because the idea is gonna be like they're gonna
Speaker 2: take on Maxley is gonna come back as a baby right,
Speaker 2: so it would make more sense for him to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: you beat me and show some respect, versus you beat
Speaker 2: me and then like beat him up again like we're
Speaker 2: supposed to be. We're in the middle of turning. You
Speaker 2: have a big dog, like, you don't need to be
Speaker 2: doing heel stuff unless they're gonna make like the Death
Speaker 2: Riders of baby Face with Oxley heel, which I don't
Speaker 2: think they're gonna do. I think Moxley will like when
Speaker 2: he comes back, actually be fired up as a baby Face,
Speaker 2: and crowd will want to be cheering him again. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a little a little odd. So I suppose
Speaker 2: you've seen this or is this when you start taking
Speaker 2: over when you saw when you.
Speaker 1: Start watching like well, I watched like I watched the Casino.
Speaker 7: Gauntlet and then I watched, uh, Mercedes and Chris and
Speaker 7: then the main event.
Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, So we'll break down these other two. Brisken
Speaker 2: Fletcher really good, like good match, good artedy, match gain
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes didn't need to be as long.
Speaker 1: I saw some good clips here.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's good again. I don't know if it need
Speaker 2: to be twenty five minutes. I think for me it
Speaker 2: was just also just I was checked out of the winner.
Speaker 2: I did not think Fletcher needed to lose the title,
Speaker 2: and then I also didn't.
Speaker 5: Think Briscoe needed to be in the group.
Speaker 2: So just like by the concept of this match, I
Speaker 2: was just not into it. But yeah, these guys have
Speaker 2: good chemistry. Now I hope to not see them wrestle
Speaker 2: far a bit. I want them to take a break.
Speaker 2: I really don't want them run back in the Classic,
Speaker 2: which they fucking TK could like, oh it's Briscoe and
Speaker 2: Fletcher seven, like that's where some of this kind of started.
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, really good match. But I would have
Speaker 2: also short in this a little bit too, and you know,
Speaker 2: good for Mark gets to win. I just didn't think
Speaker 2: Kyle needed the lost. But at the same time, I
Speaker 2: guess if he's going in the Classic. It avoids him
Speaker 2: having to lose while champ because that's always kind of
Speaker 2: an awkward thing. And maybe they're gonna start uh yes,
Speaker 2: and maybe they're gonna start upgrading to be more permanent,
Speaker 2: semi full time and let's get that fucking Fletcher Omega
Speaker 2: one on one match, you know.
Speaker 4: So Yeah, I felt like this could have been cut
Speaker 4: in half time wise, I felt like it did drag
Speaker 4: a little bit too long. I pretty much knew the
Speaker 4: minute they put the stipulation on it how it was
Speaker 4: going to end. And honestly the best part of this
Speaker 4: entire match was the fact that they used a modified
Speaker 4: version of Vegeta's speech from the Tournament of Power on
Speaker 4: Kyle Fletcher's entrance, and that popped me. Outside of that,
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, that's vegeta speech. Outside of that,
Speaker 4: I was just like this, it felt like it just
Speaker 4: went on way too much for something that we kind
Speaker 4: of knew the outcome for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of knowing the outcome, the million Dollar Trios match,
Speaker 2: you had the Young Bucks and Jaws, Alexander versus Kenny
Speaker 2: Omega and Jurassic Express Express not expression. I was happy
Speaker 2: to see Omega and Alexander get some time because I
Speaker 2: know Alexander that's like his like dream one on one match,
Speaker 2: so just give it to him. I think it's like
Speaker 2: this was a fun match. I think they were trying
Speaker 2: to get them to wake up the crowd. But like
Speaker 2: as I've said, when some spots happened, it like did
Speaker 2: the opposite. But I thought they're like, oh, they'll flip
Speaker 2: around and do some stuff. But I think for me
Speaker 2: it's we talk about this a lot on the discord,
Speaker 2: and it just sounds like from multiple people, it sounds
Speaker 2: like Omega just sounds like Kenny either has a lack
Speaker 2: of confidence in himself as far as the health wise,
Speaker 2: or he is just unhealthy. We're not getting Kenny doing
Speaker 2: solo so with him and Andrali that was making it
Speaker 2: happened Alexander Fletcher like they set all the stuff up
Speaker 2: and it seems like it's just for the six men.
Speaker 2: I said this in the discord, so I'm repeating myself there.
Speaker 2: But if he is just doing Trio's match for the
Speaker 2: like the next six months at least, then you just
Speaker 2: may as well put them with the elite. Don't do
Speaker 2: these makeshifts like oh he's with Express and he's with
Speaker 2: these guys, and especially too now that Coodo Boushi's hurt.
Speaker 2: You really you could at least done that right like
Speaker 2: gold Movers with somebody else.
Speaker 5: But now that he's gone, like, well, you just gotta
Speaker 5: do the Elite.
Speaker 2: Like and here's the thing, Like I love the Elite,
Speaker 2: one of my favorite groups made me fall back in
Speaker 2: love with wrestling after ww in twenty nineteen, which is like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. But I think the problem for me
Speaker 2: is just like I was not longing for them to
Speaker 2: get back together yet, like it just it feels like
Speaker 2: it's not been enough time since the breakup. It's I
Speaker 2: don't even been a year, so but I kind.
Speaker 5: Of just get it from an injury standpoint.
Speaker 2: If they want to do six Mans, sure get the
Speaker 2: Elite back together. And as I said, they should have
Speaker 2: them win the Trios title and actually give them a
Speaker 2: run this time, because last time they won the Trios title,
Speaker 2: they got suspended the day after we see him punkin.
Speaker 2: That was like that was supposed to be the new
Speaker 2: And I guess that's the other weird thing too, Right
Speaker 2: when the Elite got back together, it was it was
Speaker 2: awkward because they got suspended and then when they went,
Speaker 2: they came back and they lost the titles right away,
Speaker 2: like it was a weird type run. So for me,
Speaker 2: just have them be the fun spar of the show.
Speaker 2: Have them do BT, have them be a bit more
Speaker 2: calmedy driven. You can do some drama stuff, but like
Speaker 2: keep them away from the fucking death Riders.
Speaker 5: We don't need to run that back.
Speaker 2: Like have them win the Trios title and just have
Speaker 2: them be that. Have them do a classic three point
Speaker 2: five that's gonna wake up the crowd. Have Nick Jackson
Speaker 2: flip his ass off, but catch him this time. But
Speaker 2: so I'm for it. It just kind of felt like
Speaker 2: not as big as the Elite like reunion should have been.
Speaker 2: But I know it'll be entertaining at least when they
Speaker 2: get to it.
Speaker 1: So I will say something. And as I haven't seen
Speaker 1: obviously all of aw's history to really know the answer,
Speaker 1: but it's also in asking him like it was the
Speaker 1: question was like outside of like the Moxley feud, at
Speaker 1: like the very start of AW, what has Kenny done
Speaker 1: that wasn't something related to the Elite or Don Kallas
Speaker 1: in some capacity?
Speaker 2: I think the only one I really like, which she
Speaker 2: had the Don calson they need to get away. The
Speaker 2: only one I really liked is they were doing a
Speaker 2: he never beat him, but Orange Cassidy had like his number.
Speaker 2: He kept like like getting hits, Like he kept like
Speaker 2: countering something like they were doing lots of tag team
Speaker 2: matches when he was world champ, and he kept like
Speaker 2: getting the better of him. So this was the story
Speaker 2: of like Ken Kenny beat this like little loser guy
Speaker 2: that keeps it getting and they for some reason made
Speaker 2: it a three way with Pauk. Pauk just interjected himself
Speaker 2: in the story. But that's the only other thing I
Speaker 2: can think of, is I like this like a month
Speaker 2: and a half story of Kenny's really annoyed about Orange
Speaker 2: Cassidy because he can't they could get hold and then
Speaker 2: he just beat him and then they moved on. And
Speaker 2: that was the first time do they tinkered with the
Speaker 2: Orange cassid He is like an actual contender storyline. But yeah,
Speaker 2: really on that they've not done. It's been Elite and
Speaker 2: it's been Don Colson and the Don Kallis stuff is
Speaker 2: inexcusable because this has been going on. It was going
Speaker 2: on too long six months ago. It is this is brutal.
Speaker 2: This is like, yeah, separate them do like enough, like
Speaker 2: it's and maybe they could do some of the ops too,
Speaker 2: you know, like that's something fun they could do. But
Speaker 2: donk I feel like the Don Cols feud is like
Speaker 2: another two months left and it's it's brutal. It's some
Speaker 2: of my least favorite stuff in wrestling right now.
Speaker 7: To be honest, we're getting the you're getting a monkey's
Speaker 7: pop from all this, and you're getting a Kenny versus
Speaker 7: Hook singles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not Kenny versus Joe, Kenny versus Hook, my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Outside of his early steff with the Elite and now,
Speaker 4: he did have the run where he was doing his
Speaker 4: whole belt collector's thing and Don Kallis was his manager
Speaker 4: at the time, like they were on good side. But
Speaker 4: he's always been attached to Don Kallis in some form
Speaker 4: after the.
Speaker 3: Whole early days of it.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I had in my notes, I'm like, there's
Speaker 4: fun spots, dead crowd and Don Kallis is annoying the
Speaker 4: shit on commentary, Like I'm really tired of hearing him
Speaker 4: and I win every.
Speaker 2: Matches guy to like just make them all on once
Speaker 2: for the night, not every time. His guy is wrestling,
Speaker 2: because that gets too much in might opinion because he's
Speaker 2: I don't actually mind. I think Don kallas Is the
Speaker 2: commentary on New Japan was good, but when he's a
Speaker 2: heel commentator that's rooting for his guy, it's it's not good.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's overbearing. He and he only used
Speaker 2: to do that with Kenny in U Japan. But what
Speaker 2: I liked about Kenny he wasn't even his manager. It
Speaker 2: was just he was like, hey, I'm friends with Kenny
Speaker 2: and I'm rooting for him. It was never so this
Speaker 2: of a like eighties heel stuff that's just like it's
Speaker 2: just not working. It's just like it's it ruins some
Speaker 2: of the broadcast.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, and I put in here and we
Speaker 4: touched on it early, like Kenny's not busting out the
Speaker 4: big moves.
Speaker 3: That are used to seeing from Kenny.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if he's just he's saving big
Speaker 4: match Kenny for another time or what. But I need
Speaker 4: to say, see at least one or two of those
Speaker 4: big moments really stand out and remind us.
Speaker 2: Or maybe he can't though maybe he's like maybe he
Speaker 2: does them.
Speaker 5: Then after he's like, I'm really hurting. So that's the
Speaker 5: thing where at.
Speaker 2: Least the six Men's he can kind of like tag
Speaker 2: out and cover for a bit. You know. There was
Speaker 2: a time where he did the the like the suit
Speaker 2: like whatever, the plancha over and he landed on his foot.
Speaker 2: He was completely fine, but when he sold it, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh God, don't tell you. And then they
Speaker 2: made it probably matches like okay, good Alexander just want
Speaker 2: to work the foot. But for like thirty seconds I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my, he sold it away where he
Speaker 2: didn't bring attention to it. He just kind of moved
Speaker 2: off the sign and was like moving his foot around.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh god, don't.
Speaker 1: And we'll get to it. Like in the in the
Speaker 1: stat Lander match, like when she went to the outside
Speaker 1: right away and landed like on her shoulder and like
Speaker 1: snapped to it. Oh, like oh my god, it's over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can move there now. That that got me,
Speaker 2: especially the way the reft checked on her. I thought
Speaker 2: the raft did a good job when.
Speaker 7: Like Mercedes like went after right away, but like when
Speaker 7: the ref was like like hole and the camera was
Speaker 7: like kind of going.
Speaker 2: Away round, it's awkward.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and her shoulder looked like really red by. That's
Speaker 7: probably just from like falling straight up.
Speaker 2: Well she had like yeah, she had like a bump,
Speaker 2: like a string bump on her shoulder, like oh no,
Speaker 2: but yeah again, good job there, and even then, like
Speaker 2: the reveal of it, the camera shot was good because
Speaker 2: then when she's like, yeah, I'm good to go, and
Speaker 2: then out of nowhere, just a knee from Mercedes like
Speaker 2: comes in the frame. It was like really good. But
Speaker 2: yeah we did stat Land and versus Mercedes Monet, Mercedes
Speaker 2: Monet getting the uh not getting the win, taking the
Speaker 2: first loss of stat Land or they're eating that up
Speaker 2: and doing that story of she can win all these titles,
Speaker 2: but she can't win this main one. I think eventually,
Speaker 2: obviously she will, you know, maybe that'll be when Bailey's
Speaker 2: in there as the baby face pop help her out.
Speaker 2: But uh no, I think they as always these ladies
Speaker 2: have great chemistry. They wrestled a very different match because
Speaker 2: they did like like they did that arm spot and the.
Speaker 7: First technical match of just her working yes the arm
Speaker 7: and trying to do damage.
Speaker 2: To it felt very like nineties WF like Brett Hart
Speaker 2: when he was defending his titles, like it felt like that.
Speaker 2: But It was very different from what they did before,
Speaker 2: which was like mostly fast paced stuff.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: I think that was smart because you don't want to
Speaker 2: just redo the same match over and over. I don't
Speaker 2: think any of us really thought stat Lander was in
Speaker 2: any worry of losing this title. But I have good chemistry,
Speaker 2: and I think they had some good spots. And again,
Speaker 2: if they want to run it back, and sure they
Speaker 2: they They were very good together, and I hope sat
Speaker 2: Lander gets like a nice now run before lace. I think, bang,
Speaker 2: we'll take it off. But no, very good match, not
Speaker 2: their best one. I think the best one is still
Speaker 2: probably the first one they had, because I think we
Speaker 2: were just surprised how good the chemistry was and they
Speaker 2: were doing a lot of stuff and it felt like
Speaker 2: they weren't holding back because it felt like TK didn't
Speaker 2: plan a rematch, but the match was so good, He's like, well,
Speaker 2: let's just do this again. Right, But yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's like a four star four point two five for
Speaker 2: me or something.
Speaker 7: I had like four point two five, but I didn't
Speaker 7: want to rewatch the the other two just to compare it.
Speaker 1: But I did really like this one. There were some
Speaker 1: good callbacks, like the like getting in at nine.
Speaker 7: Spot was really good, but they did the opposite because
Speaker 7: then that one Mercedes had, like Statlander gone in at nine.
Speaker 1: This time it was Mercedes, but like.
Speaker 7: Statlander was like like when Stalander got in at nine
Speaker 7: in the previous snatch, Mercedes was like, oh, like I
Speaker 7: can't believe this.
Speaker 1: But then in this one they did it.
Speaker 7: Where like Statlander wanted her to get back in so
Speaker 7: she could like keep beating her up.
Speaker 1: She like smiled then she.
Speaker 7: Got in, but then people put those clips by side
Speaker 7: by side, and like when Statlander came in and that
Speaker 7: other match, the crowd was like exploding, and then in
Speaker 7: this one it was like dead.
Speaker 1: Like when Mercedes like had her arm on the outside
Speaker 1: and like stepped on it, there was literally like it
Speaker 1: was like like silent, like you could hear like her
Speaker 1: footstoff smoking on the outside.
Speaker 2: Oh and even like in the last match, I could
Speaker 2: reminder they had Kenny in that ankle log and if
Speaker 2: Kenny was trying to build that spot so the crowd
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to tap and like trying to get like
Speaker 2: the feed and it just wasn't there, and it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it doesn't look great. When that happened, I will say
Speaker 2: because you remind me too. Another spot I liked it
Speaker 2: was a simple butt when camera what move, It was
Speaker 2: like one of either signature or finished. Mercedes hit it
Speaker 2: and then Christa Lander kicked out and Mercedes just like mad.
Speaker 2: But she was there for like twenty seconds. And I
Speaker 2: like that in a match sometimes where she's like gives
Speaker 2: it a moment to breathe and just shows the heels
Speaker 2: like and I mean, you found the bay face doing that,
Speaker 2: Like I can't beat this person, I can't find a way.
Speaker 2: Like I like when it's just a moment like, hey,
Speaker 2: we're just gonna sit out and show this character, especially
Speaker 2: because Most Cities is winning everything right now. It just shows, Okay,
Speaker 2: she's just pissed off right now, what you gonna do?
Speaker 2: And then like right after she kind of lost it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought it was a good match once
Speaker 4: I realized that it wasn't a title for title match,
Speaker 4: that it was, you know, just for the woman's setto.
Speaker 4: I knew Statlander was gonna end up winning it. She's
Speaker 4: gonna keep that belt, which is perfectly fine. I'm I
Speaker 4: want her to go on a little bit of a run.
Speaker 4: I mean, people have been asking for it. For so
Speaker 4: long that I want her to have a little bit
Speaker 4: more time with it, so it's good match, some fun spots,
Speaker 4: you know, trying to get the crowd back in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then finally I.
Speaker 7: Have somewhere that like, I'm trying to look quickly like
Speaker 7: a cage match. How long this was, because it says,
Speaker 7: yeah it was, it was over.
Speaker 5: Twenty three minutes and five seconds.
Speaker 7: But I don't know, there's just something about like these
Speaker 7: and I felt the same about the Tony match.
Speaker 1: I don't know, they just feel all like a tiny
Speaker 1: bit too short. I guess it's just when compared to.
Speaker 7: Just any other random like men's match will go like
Speaker 7: twenty five to thirty minutes, that is.
Speaker 2: Like Bristoll and Fletcher minutes.
Speaker 7: These title defenses for for Chris just feel like a
Speaker 7: tiny bit too short, like they could be a little
Speaker 7: bit more. But I'm still really liking the matches, so
Speaker 7: that that's just like a minor nitpick that I just
Speaker 7: feel like i'd have to see.
Speaker 5: How Yeah, I agree with you on the Tony one.
Speaker 2: This one, this one, I think I felt fine with
Speaker 2: the time, but the Tony one I felt was like
Speaker 2: a little shorter, but at least they're giving her like
Speaker 2: the second slot of the night and stuff. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then finally we had Samoa Joe versus Hangman Page
Speaker 2: in a still cage. We kind of talked about a
Speaker 2: little bit at the beginning. Joe got bust up, the
Speaker 2: statement just took his boot off, beat him up. I
Speaker 2: think there's some hard Way stuff in there, some blade
Speaker 2: so good mix, and I actually really like this match.
Speaker 2: To me, this would have been it's lower now, but
Speaker 2: I was like veering towards a four because, like I liked,
Speaker 2: it was just like two bruiser classes and they're just
Speaker 2: beating each other up. Lots of cage slams, lots of
Speaker 2: it's just like gnarly hits, Like it just felt like, okay,
Speaker 2: it's just like a bar brawl, Like these guys just
Speaker 2: beating each other up. I don't know why they're obsessed
Speaker 2: with doing this, like they with the Hangman MJFF match.
Speaker 2: We talked about this. It was a really good match,
Speaker 2: and then they did Mark Briscoe came in there and
Speaker 2: another thing happened and it's like, why'd they do this?
Speaker 2: And then they did the Fletcher Hangman one zero interference.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like an apology of Okay, I've
Speaker 2: heard the complaints. Here's just a straight wrestling match. And
Speaker 2: they went back to with like you had fucking shabbata
Speaker 2: climb the cage and out of nowhere Kingston comes in
Speaker 2: and then Will Hobbs breaks the cheney comes in, and
Speaker 2: then I'm like, even though the hook thing is like
Speaker 2: a meme, I'm fine with that because like that was
Speaker 2: like turn the time made Hayman lose, but the rest
Speaker 2: of it's just like, I don't know, I just I
Speaker 2: wish it didn't go that way. Sure, they're protecting Hangman,
Speaker 2: it's just too much interference in there. To me, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna have one, just keep it just one hook
Speaker 2: and that alone. Even though I don't think that has
Speaker 2: like the hoodspa they thought they were having. So to me,
Speaker 2: it was a really good match up until the ending,
Speaker 2: and we can talk about I don't see why I
Speaker 2: have this is one of those I need to wait
Speaker 2: and see. I don't see why Joe winning, and not
Speaker 2: just because I love hang Man. I just don't see
Speaker 2: why Joe's winning here other than we don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of heels right now, so we can first the
Speaker 2: baby faces, I just especially if the trajectory is Osprey
Speaker 2: for all in it's just like, so we're gonna go
Speaker 2: from Joe to a Babyface to MGF to I don't know,
Speaker 2: I I don't see I don't see the vision, but
Speaker 2: maybe I will in a couple of weeks from now.
Speaker 2: So good match and the Swerve return to me was
Speaker 2: a big dud. The crowd like the crowd wasn't there,
Speaker 2: but he looked Jack. But when he's fighting those people
Speaker 2: themed song didn't work either. And to me, when he's
Speaker 2: fighting the people was weird, like you can't be doing
Speaker 2: wrestling moves on the security, like just that's your pontas, y'all.
Speaker 3: Jimp Hill come when he's.
Speaker 2: Like trying to set the power bomb, and they're just
Speaker 2: like like, no, you you you you have three things
Speaker 2: you can do in a brawl A punch, a kick,
Speaker 2: or dive to take them all out. That's it. But
Speaker 2: he like it's like he was gone for like three years,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna remove you on move set. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: you've been gone for like six months, Like we know
Speaker 2: what Swerve does.
Speaker 7: When he was walking towards Hangman, they were setting that
Speaker 7: up as if like oh, like, is he gonna.
Speaker 2: Get at it?
Speaker 1: Literally, he literally helped him win the title.
Speaker 2: The swerve would have been him attacking Hangman. That would
Speaker 2: have been the swerve of like they're together.
Speaker 7: I like he's like walking. It's like, oh he's actually
Speaker 7: fighting the security. Yeah, in no world that I think
Speaker 7: he was gonna attack Hangman. And that's what the crowd
Speaker 7: the meme of him doing.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, the crowd's already dead enough, and you're giving
Speaker 2: this to an arrow that no one believes. Like the
Speaker 2: swerve is hang in and swerves stand together, they're gonna
Speaker 2: fighterybody and Swerve turns. You're like, oh my god, he
Speaker 2: does hate him again, like for whatever reason, but no,
Speaker 2: no one will if he was just gonna be like, hey,
Speaker 2: Man's already dead. Yeah, I'm just gonna keep beating them up.
Speaker 2: Like That's where just little stuff like that, no one
Speaker 2: sits around goes like this isn't believable. Just have a
Speaker 2: run down and safe hang I just have the ops
Speaker 2: are gonna fucking you know, musclebuster Hangman on a table.
Speaker 2: Swarve just makes a safe. That's it easy, don't there.
Speaker 2: They overbooked that ending, like and even then he's.
Speaker 1: Doing away from the screen for one second and there
Speaker 1: were like thirty five guys in the ring, and like,
Speaker 1: who are these people?
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 2: And they do this weird thing too, where like the
Speaker 2: lights go out and then the lights came on and
Speaker 2: Swore just made his entrance, like why the lights go out?
Speaker 2: Just get his music? Like it's just I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm happy swars back. TV needs him.
Speaker 2: It just again, no one like they just little stuff
Speaker 2: of you can fix all this by just change this,
Speaker 2: change that, and it doesn't come off as awkward, but
Speaker 2: it kind of made his return feel like nothing other
Speaker 2: than I'm happy it swarves back on TV.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it to me like this match could have
Speaker 4: been better for me, but it felt flat. The ending
Speaker 4: definitely took a lot away from it. And when I
Speaker 4: first saw like the moon when they were trying to
Speaker 4: bring Swerve back, I was like, oh, well, Hook is
Speaker 4: already out here, why are we throwing another Like I
Speaker 4: caught up in there, and then it went to the
Speaker 4: house and everything else. It's like, Okay, I get what
Speaker 4: we're doing now, but at first he just nothing about
Speaker 4: that just brought out the pop that I think that
Speaker 4: they were wanting for Swerve. And I felt like it
Speaker 4: was definitely a dud return because of the way that
Speaker 4: it was set up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw what I'm saying to like swerved up
Speaker 7: the full like Roman walk to the ring, like he
Speaker 7: was walking so slow. Well, like I guess he supposedly.
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess the swerve was like.
Speaker 1: He was walking so slow because a, he's gonna attack.
Speaker 7: Him, and like he's not running down for the safe
Speaker 7: because he's gonna fight in the dojo.
Speaker 1: But it was just weird.
Speaker 7: He was just yeah, walking down and like the theme song,
Speaker 7: so people aren't really like ready to like do the
Speaker 7: dance of the theme yet, so we just kind of
Speaker 7: walking there while people are just kind of looking at him.
Speaker 2: How do you get rid of that fucking song? How
Speaker 2: do you get rid of like Prince dont like unless
Speaker 2: he's turning heel, which that would have made sense, right
Speaker 2: if he came down and clocked hangman ands like, Oh
Speaker 2: that's why he has that music because it's not like,
Speaker 2: but how do you get rid of pitts Nada?
Speaker 1: Let me see it's like not vengeance or something.
Speaker 2: But is it him singing it though? Is it his song?
Speaker 7: His?
Speaker 1: Sure? It's him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: Is called most dangerous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I just to me, that's one where
Speaker 2: it's like, eh, you sit him down and go you
Speaker 2: know what, people like doing the swerve when you drive, like,
Speaker 2: don't change it, like like it's same thing with Faws.
Speaker 2: Like also when Jericho is over, it's like you just
Speaker 2: rock with Even when he was a heeled they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: are you in change it? He said no because the
Speaker 2: people react, so.
Speaker 5: I'm not changing and eventually they did.
Speaker 2: Right. But like sometimes when music works, just go with it.
Speaker 2: Just I know you want a new music track. But
Speaker 2: like I said, that tracked me sounds perfect for when
Speaker 2: he's heel again. Great, save it for that right now
Speaker 2: you're doing your baby face return. I don't know. It
Speaker 2: was just a lot of weird choics.
Speaker 1: So what do you think this? Like the match is nice,
Speaker 1: like say full year water swerve and Hangman thing Joe
Speaker 1: at World's End, Yeah, World's in.
Speaker 7: I think that trip will threat running it back from
Speaker 7: like when they first thought for it, like Revolution twenty
Speaker 7: twenty four it was Joe versus Hangman versus swerve with
Speaker 7: Joe's the champion.
Speaker 2: I would prefer the only thing they should do, which
Speaker 2: I don't like this at all. Then, is for some
Speaker 2: reason you make you have make it a four way.
Speaker 1: The tag ropes that world.
Speaker 2: Well you do the tag yeah, you do the tag rope,
Speaker 2: or you do the four way and m Jeff is
Speaker 2: in there, but he wins in like a but like
Speaker 2: it's he's wutning off of Joe's And as I said before,
Speaker 2: like to me, I have no interest in swerving Joe
Speaker 2: again right now, like that's how Swerve won the title,
Speaker 2: So I don't believe Swarve's good either. I don't believe
Speaker 2: Swarve's gonna do it, so I have no interest or
Speaker 2: Swarve just beats Joe again very odd like what so
Speaker 2: Swerve like don't wrong. I think there's money in MGF
Speaker 2: and Swerve if they want to somehow get there, But
Speaker 2: then they should have found do the triple threator something.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is. Maybe it is Swerve's gonna
Speaker 2: beat Joe again, have like a small run and MGFF
Speaker 2: gets it, because I do think there's a good chance
Speaker 2: it's MGF. It's either MGF losing to Derby or losing
Speaker 2: an offspring. It's what those are the two scenarios, And
Speaker 2: I just don't know. It all depends on Will's health
Speaker 2: and his recovery, so just a question of how we
Speaker 2: get to MJFF. And I don't know if this is it,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think, uh, I think it's just Swerve,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I think it's I'm gona. I think it's
Speaker 2: Swerve and Joe on a dynamite. I don't even think
Speaker 2: they're even gonna get the World's End. Well, I guess
Speaker 2: it's in December, so it's not that far. It's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe you're right. Maybe I could see them doing Swerve
Speaker 2: and Joe on a dynamite, but it ends in like
Speaker 2: a kabooky way like with Shenanigans, and then they do
Speaker 2: the triple thread or a fatal four way or something
Speaker 2: like that. Like maybe maybe they do something where it
Speaker 2: looks like Swerve's gonna beat Joe again at worlds N
Speaker 2: but MGFF like cheats to win, and that's how you
Speaker 2: can set up Swerve versus MJF and kind of go
Speaker 2: from there. That that that's what I'm That's what I'm thinking, Dave,
Speaker 2: you have anything elsewhere thoughts on that.
Speaker 4: I could see them doing the fatal four way. World's
Speaker 4: End is December twenty seventh, So that's a month from now,
Speaker 4: so you know, let Joe do his trash talking between
Speaker 4: now and then lose it there or because in my mind,
Speaker 4: I definitely see will Ospray beating someone of the caliber
Speaker 4: of an.
Speaker 3: MJF or somebody like that.
Speaker 2: For you, not like another baby especially in England, like
Speaker 2: that's weird if you haven't fight another babyface you know.
Speaker 4: Yes, so you have to find some way to you know,
Speaker 4: transition the belt between that time. But and I think
Speaker 4: fatal four way is something like that is the perfect
Speaker 4: way to do it instead of you know, just going
Speaker 4: heel versus. He'll have that Fatal four, have MJF take it,
Speaker 4: and then have Osprey eventually beat him. I think that
Speaker 4: that's the most logical conclusion from here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Walt, ladies, gymen, there we go. That is a
Speaker 2: show we'll be back at next We can probably similar
Speaker 2: time for war games. We'll talk about that and then
Speaker 2: any other w W or AW news that breaks from that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll be breaking that show down and yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see see what happens the next week. You never
Speaker 2: know what can happen, any returns, any surprises, any drama.
Speaker 2: We'll cover it, so we'll be back and it won't
Speaker 2: be boring. Se