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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode oh the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name

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is Tim Duckworth. As I adjust my mic stand right now,

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probably going to create some great audio for producer Rich

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Ryan to fix. But whatever, we're back. Baby. It's been

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a while. But it's December first, it is twelve fifty

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three pm. It is officially my birthday month. My wife

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decides to, you know, tell me it's her birthday month,

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it's her birthday week, whatever the heck. So you know

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I'm gonna do the same. You know, it's my birthday

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year as far as I'm concerned. Wow, yeah, exactly. On

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today's show, we had a lot to catch up on.

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We're gonna talk about the NPT Las Vegas. They had

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a bunch of PGT qualifying events that were part of

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that schedule, so we'll hit on those. Texas PLO round

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up finished up. Tim was down there at Champions Club,

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so he's gonna check or he's gonna get us up

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to date on what happened down in Texas. Austin, right,

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he's Houstons. I always do that. I don't know why.

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I don't know why. I always think Austin. I want

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to touch on these other big tournaments that happened around

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the world, AP APT Championship. I'm probably gonna butcher that

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because you know, you and I used to go to

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the APPT.

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Speaker 2: Quite a lot, so you never went to the APT.

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Speaker 1: I've never gone to the APT. I've only been to

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the APPT and the A and ZPT. There you go,

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B s Op Millions wrapped up and then currently running

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right now WPT Seminal Rock and Roll Poke Roping I

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believe is the one that's running right now. I do

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want to just quickly there's been a lot of drama

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in the Twitter world of the past what two weeks

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now or so. Yeah, we're not gonna get too much

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into it, but maybe we'll just give some quick takes, right,

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you know, we'll just quickly touch on things. We'll move on.

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And yeah, as always, if you are listening, please do

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get in there play your single hand of free online poker.

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Someone's gonna win that seat. They're gonna come out to

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Las Vegas in January. They're gonna play in that million

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It will be about fifty players, you know, give or

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take in that field, so you got a pretty good

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shot at winning half a million dollars. Of course, no

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purchase necessary. You do have to be twenty one or

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older because you know, you got to be able to

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Full rules and details can be found at PokerGO dot

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com slash rules. All right, First things first, goll Ye

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Frock wins the NAPT Las Vegas main event. Now, this

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was not a PGT qualifying event. I don't know how

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many questions you feeled about that, but I think I

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feel two dozen you know what? Or you know is

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this PGT qualifying? Why isn't it PGT qualifying? All that

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sort of stuff. Anyway, the Frock gets his largest live

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tournament score. He wins five hundred and forty three thousand dollars.

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Now he did make a deal with Thomas Boyven heads up,

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they chopped it I think even, and left some need

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to play for Boyven had a large chip lead throughout

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much of the final table, the large majority of it.

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It was interesting because I was watching the stream and

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Boyvin he took a large chip lead into the final table,

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and then I think when he got down to three handed,

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it was Boyvin e Frock and then Jen Shahati and

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Boyven asked to look at the numbers, which I thought

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was interesting because he had such a big lead, Like

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why would you why wouldn't you just play for it? All.

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e Frock when Boyven wanted to kind of negotiate better

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terms for him because he believed he I have this correctly,

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if my memory serves me, kucy that he wanted a

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little bit more than ICM because of his chip stack

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and everything. But Shahati was like, you know, let's just

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let's just play for it, you know, let's just play.

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So anyway, they end up playing for it. Jen Shahati

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goes out third, then there's a deal struck between e

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Frock and Boyvin. E Frok ends up coming back taking

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it all down. So it was e Froc on top,

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five hundred and forty three thousand dollars, boy then second,

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five hundred and eighteen k Shahati third, two hundred ninety

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one thousand. Ekram Boskirt fourth satellite winner into the event

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and then went on to finish fourth. Ekram is a

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regular player around Las Vegas, made a final table or

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two at Venetian that we streamed as part of Venetian

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Poker Live and also Poker gro He took home two

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hundred and twenty four thousand dollars. Michael Burke PGC regular

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fifth place, Peter Muger sixth place, one hundred and thirty

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two thousand for him, Burke got one seventy two, Abdullah

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and then Richard Green, also frequent some PGT events, seventy

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eight thousand dollars for him, seven hundred and thirty eight entries.

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Last year was eight ninety five this year's prize school

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I did have a three million dollar guarantee last year

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and this year. This year came at almost three point

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six million dollars. Last year was a bit over four

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point three million dollars. So those two numbers compared to

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last year, seventeen point five percent decrease. That's what I

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want to talk about as it pertains to the main event.

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What are your thoughts, like, why did the field decline?

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Speaker 2: I got four? Four reasons?

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Speaker 1: Oh, four four, So that by the way, I like

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that you're bringing four and the reason why I like, Yeah,

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But it's never one thing I try to say, like, oh,

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it's it's because of this, and it's there's a pie chart,

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and like everything has its own percentage of the pie. Yeah,

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you know, so that's how this So I'm happy you're

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bringing multiple things here that that likely played into it.

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Now we may not exactly know the percentages, but there's

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always a bunch of different factors that are to.

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Speaker 2: Way go ahead.

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Speaker 3: We're going to touch on two of them a little later,

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but two pretty big, impressive competing events. We're going to

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talk about Asian pokatur in Taiwan. We're going to talk

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about the BSOP that's obviously going to draw some of

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those local players to state. It's also lurid some of

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our players. When I say our players, i'm talking you know,

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Las Vegas slash America over to those stops, and that's

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obviously going to have an influence on another event we'll

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So those two things are pretty big. I think the

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third thing to me, and you know, you and I

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have chatted about this a lot in person. I've chatted

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with players about a lot. I didn't think the schedule

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was that good. And when I say good, I'm talking

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more about how it was kind of conducted, how it

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was structured.

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Speaker 2: You know, the offerings was not good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when a player wanting to travel

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here looking at that, They're like, you know, I can't

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play this event. I can't play that. I can only

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play a couple of events. It's not really worth it

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for me. I'm going to skip it. And then the

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fourth thing I think is is something I'm not quite

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knowledgeable on. Maybe you a little better than me, but

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the landscape. And when I said to Lanscap, I'm talking

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about Focus Stars, I'm talking about FanDuel And you know,

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we touched on it, like we just didn't feel there

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was as much promotion for this series in the last

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compared to the last couple of years. And now was

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that on purpose? Was that Pocos Stars saying, you know what,

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let's dial down the marketing dollars a little bit. You know,

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I'm sure if we could somehow access the data of

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satellite see winners online and and live. I'm assuming there's

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a big decline there too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that last sorry, two years ago,

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they obviously had to make a pretty big splash. Now

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it was a little bit of a different event with

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a different price point, but they still had to make

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a big splash. Return of the napt It's coming back

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to Las Vegas all that sort of stuff, and then

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last year they go back, they go to more of

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an EPT model, more of the old NAPT model, the

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five K in event, three million dollar guaranteed price, well,

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that sort of stuff. So obviously you've got to put

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a lot of marketing power behind that, and then this

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year maybe they just pulled back on it. I just

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I felt like buzz was a little bit lesser than

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last year, and that's probably just because it wasn't so

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in your face with the marketing, you know, actual so

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it was it was it was still a really good turnout, right,

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you know, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nearly eight hundred players, you know, you that's that's great.

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The actual on site marketing, let's just make sure we

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under it was still fantastic. The room's great to play in,

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you know, the branding at result World is still great.

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It's we're talking about leading up to whether it's on social,

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whether it's you know, they did a lot of stuff

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last year with influences and even like some pretty big

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Twitter accounts like was Las Vegas locally and stuff, so

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those additional marketing arms weren't there this year. Everything on

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side we're not talking about, it's just leading up to it.

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Online social et cetera, just built not not as there,

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not as much there as last time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's also I know you want to talk

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about this a little bit more later, but it is

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very difficult these days with there's just so much poker.

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Speaker 2: There's so much, you know, it's.

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Speaker 1: It's it's getting pretty crazy, and it's it's good to

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see that the industry is able to survive through it,

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you know, like for example, this event, you know, it

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didn't it didn't miss the guarantee, It cleared the guarantee.

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bit more of a sweat than they would have liked.

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so that's you know, a fair a fair amount over

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you know that I would say that this doesn't fall

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into fake guarantee range because they didn't blow it out

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of the water finally, but it was again, it was

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probably a little bit closer than they would have liked.

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So there's that. Yeah, all in all, you know, I

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thought the event was good. I lasted a whole of

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like forty minutes in it, so that was also spectacular. Yeah,

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it's very well played. You know, I don't like to

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wait around. You know, I either get in and I

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lose or I win, you know, one of the others.

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Moving on to the PGT qualifying events that were part

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of the NAPT Las Vegas. You had eight events, the

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ten K Mystery Bounty, the twenty K Super high Roller

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warm Up, the fifty K Super high Roller, ten K

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Half and half Nolan Holdham Slash Plo, twenty five K

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Poo high Roller, ten K Bounty, twelve K Quattro Knockout,

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and then the ten K napt high Roller First Up

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the Mystery Bounty. Cherish Andrews won it all topped eighty

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four entries She want to combined three hundred and thirty

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one thousand dollars. She won one hundred and eleven thousand

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dollars from the prize pool. She went two hundred and

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twenty thousand dollars from the mystery bounties. She beat Nick

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Petraangelo in heads up play. Petra Angelo got almost one

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hundred and twenty two thousand dollars between prize, school and bounties.

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And I bring up Petrangela specifically because he then went

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on to win the next event, the twenty K Super

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high Roller warm Up, topping fifty three entries to win

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almost three hundred and ten thousand dollars. The fifty k

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super high Roller that had twenty three entries. Steven Chidwick

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topped all comers five hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars.

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Thomas Boyven second place for three thirty four, already on

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a high before that main event score that we already

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talked about. This fifty k super high Roll took place

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before the main event, so all combined well over eight

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hundred thousand dollars just from those two finishes for Boyvin,

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who's had a really really great year, he had a

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smashing WSP does very well here at NPT Las Vegas.

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The ten k Nolanan HOLDOM slash PLO JACEAMU top sixty

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entries won one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars. Sam

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Soeverell second place one hundred and thirteen thousand dollars cherish

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and back at the final table She's Hot fifth place

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for forty seven thousand dollars. The twenty five KPLO high Roller.

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This event was i'll say needs improvement. Eleven entries, Yeah,

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it was. It was just a bad structure. It was

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scheduled for three days. I think they started him way

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too deep in chips. They only played a handful levels

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on day one. They even had to adjust the structure

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on day one. It was kind of a mess. It

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only got eleven entries at the end of the day.

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Sean Rafael won it for one hundred and seventy one

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thousand dollars. He beat Jordan Glazer, who took ninety two

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k for second place, and then Glazer, much like Petrangelo

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did to kick off the high rollers, Glazer went on

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to win the next high roller, top fourteen entries in

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the ten K Bounty to win forty two thousand dollars.

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Then Glazer took second place in the twelve K Quatro knockout.

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He lost there to Sam so Overroll. Sam Soverll wins

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almost two hundred one thousand dollars over two hundred thousand dollars,

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topping thirty nine entries there, and then the the most

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well attended a high roller event on the schedule, the

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ten K napt high Roller Batali Zavorotnis I probably severely

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pushed at that one, top one hundred and fifty eight

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entries to win three hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars.

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It had one hundred and seventy entries last year. For you, sir, Yes, Now,

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part of our partnership with the NAPT Las Vegas. And

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when I say our, I mean the PGT, we gave

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a dream seat which fast tracked somebody into the PGT

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Million Dollar Championship. Who won that thing? And who are

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we going to be seeing in January?

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Speaker 3: Well, we like we do on the PGT, he must

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have two cash's, so that kind of you know, disqualified

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or made some people ineligible to win this. So who

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actually finished second on the leaderboard, but he did have

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two cashes? Nick Petriangelo has both hands on that dream see.

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But you know, here's the thing, here's the kicker. And

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I've told some players that are on this leaderboard he's

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pretty close to the top forty. And we know he's

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going to Bahamas and we know he probably might play

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last Chance, so there was a chance that he naturally

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qualifies for the PGT Championship. So what that means that

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seat start rolling down next up.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why you do that is because dream

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seat winners only start with one hundred big lines.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: If you qualify in the top forty.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a lot more?

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Speaker 1: You can have more chips based on your finishing position

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in the top four Exactly. The first person on the

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leader board, which right now is Alex Fox, and he

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would start with the most chips in the PGT Championship,

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second whatever, the second most, et cetera. So you'd rather

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than that. We're gonna benefit the player in this regard exactly.

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Speaker 3: Next up Sam several Well, he's second on the leader board,

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so he's out. Uh. Steven Chidwick also in the top forty,

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he's at bin Wang one cash.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately he does not qualify.

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Speaker 3: Next person on the list, Jordan Glazer four cash, is

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best performing player at NAPT when it came to the

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PGT qualifying events. But Jordan, we'll touch on him. He

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did down to Texas, had some results there. He's about

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four hundred points away from the top forty.

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Speaker 2: Not sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure he was going to Muhamas yet. So

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he's probably, you know, not a favorite. But hey, I

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already told him keep the communication lines open. I might

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have to send you a message. He may also come

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and play PGT last chance. He's more of a PLO player,

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but he may come out here. So there's a chance,

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you know, he could score some results and potentially get

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in naturally too. But if Petranglo does qualify, he's got

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four hundred and fifty points, that sea would roll down

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to Jordan and then if you know, like it can

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keep going. Obviously, if he did both of them somehow

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get in, it's going to go down to Sam Laskwitz

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was just outside the top forty. Just somow he's in,

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Kristen Foxon and carry Katz sitting in tenth, not in

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the top forty yet, but hey, this is his backup option.

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Speaker 2: So what about Cherish Wish?

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Speaker 3: She Cherish's on thirteenth on the leaderboard, so significantly more

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down on this dream see little bit. But yeah, she's

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she's outside the top forty as well. So yeah, this

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is I though Nick, it's currently with Nick.

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Speaker 2: It may change.

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Speaker 3: We'll just kind of see how the next you know,

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what is it twenty sixteen events or something play out?

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Speaker 1: Anything else stand out to you from this series? You

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can focus on the PGT stuff. I mean, what have

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you got to say?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is, you know, we had

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three people knock up some PGT milestones. Okay, okay, So

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we had Steven Schidwick sur past ten thousand PGT points,

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he joins Alex Foxon in that category. We had Sam

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Several and Jeremy Osmond's pick up their one hundredth PGT cash,

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so it's three pretty cool milestones. And then we look

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at the leaderboard, we did have some big, big movers.

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Some people solidify, you know, their position. Obviously, Sam Several

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picked up three cash as he's he's now just looks

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like forty four points outside Alex Foxon. So that race

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to be PGT Player of the Year is going to

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come pretty pretty hot down this home stretch. You know,

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we had jos Mao move up in the top ten,

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Kristen fox And move up, Chidwick move up. A lot

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of these guys kind of solidified their position. And then

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you look just outside that, you know, top forty, we

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saw Sam Liskoy it's now forty first. Including all the

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little rules we have, we have Jeremy Osma's now sneaking in,

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so he's right in there, you know, obviously defending PGT

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Player of the Year, defending PGT Championship winner. So he

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is currently sitting thirty eight, so he's going to still

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do some more work to make sure he sleticizes his position.

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But yeah, some movers in the forty people just moving

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just to the outside. So did have a bit of

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a bit of a shakeup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I thought I thought the high

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walls were pretty good.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think going back to your point about the schedule stuff,

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some tinkering could be done there. And yeah, you know,

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all in all, I hope, I hope this event stays

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on the schedule. I really like it's I think it's

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got a decent time slot. I see decent now because

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as we'll get into some of the later stuff and

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Tim kind of touched on could be more challenging going forward.

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I also do wonder if this this letter or whatever

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from the Nevada Gaming Commission has anything to do with it,

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because they sent the letter to their belief to fand yeah,

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you know about the prediction market stuff, you know, and

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I want to say they mentioned Flutter in there, so

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does because Flutter owns poker Stars. Does that affect this

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event like it's it's a whole thing. So I guess

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wait and see on that. I would hate to see

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this event go. I mean, I want to see the

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napt evolve into a full on tour, not just one stop.

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I mean, I think that they should be. I think

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they should be trying to do four big five K

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events a year different properties, culminate with the final one

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in Las Vegas, and then do a bunch of those

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Poker Stars open ones, right, you know, maybe do let's

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four to eight of those smaller events one K price point,

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you know, and they kind of all feed in to

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those then majors. Like That's how I would kind of

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try and structure this thing. I don't know how many

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properties are are available to them, how many you know,

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partner properties they have. Obviously they went to I think

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it was Maryland Live for the Poker Stars Open. I

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think they have a presence in Pennsylvania. They're in Michigan,

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So can they find someone there to do something with, like,

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you know, all that sort of stuff. I don't know,

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we'll see. Would love for that to happen. And I think,

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again I've said it before, I'll say it again, the

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resort property is elite. It just kind of thinks that

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it seems like no one's ever there when I'm there,

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which sucks so quiet, it's so but the entire property

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is so freaking nice, and like when you go to

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play poker there for the napt you're in this ballroom,

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You're away from everything. Everything super updated, state of the art, spacious, luxurious.

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It's it's awesome. It really is. Even simple things like

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coming in off the highway, it's like right there, you

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don't have to deal with the strip stuff. Like it's

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just nice and convenient and freaking awesome. So hopefully just

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six a round. Let's head on down to Texas, where

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we had Stephen Hubbard topping three hundred and thirty seven

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entries to win two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars in

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the three K buying million dollar guaranteed PGT Texas PLO

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Round Up Main event. Tim loves to make seventeen words

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in everything.

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Speaker 2: You're out at the PGT. PGT pot is not in

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the net.

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Speaker 1: It's a PGT event, so PGT goes in the front. Okay,

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I'm sorry, that's how it is. Hubbard dominated the final

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table en routes to victory. He moves up to one

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hundred one hundredth on the season long PGT leader board,

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so I guess within striking distance. But I'll also say

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not really because he's really only a PLO player, So

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you know, unless he's going to the Bahamas to fire

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some of that PLO stuff down there, I would doubt

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that we see him get into the championship. But hey,

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you never don't enough fun. Little run for Hubbard. He

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bagged the Day one B chip lead, then he won

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the first high roller. Then he went back and ran

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on to victory in the WSP main events, in that.

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Speaker 3: Pail round event, the PGT What did I say, WSP

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main Event?

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Speaker 1: I don't think I said that, rich check check the

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tame and ran on to victory in the main events. No,

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I don't. I honestly don't think I said that. Maybe

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I did. It might have sounded like that, but I

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don't think I said it.

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Speaker 2: Actually, maybe he said Texas main event.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what that might So anyway, he won

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thirty six K for the high roller, winning one two

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n and fifteen K for the main event win. Now,

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the event barely hit the guarantee million dollar guarantee one

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million and eleven thousand dollars in the prize. Fool, that

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was a sweat. I want to know what the heck

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was it like? Because you were on property you were

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down in not Austin Houston for this event at Champions Club.

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What was what was the sweat?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Every day you're getting up, you're seeing the numbers, You're like,

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are we gonna make it? You're obviously talking to the

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Champions Club like, well, what's what's that sweat?

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Speaker 3: Like we started, I knew there was going to be

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a downturn. I'll revisit the reasons, but we were on

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track the first flight, Day one day, We'll okay, day

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one B.

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Speaker 2: We were on track.

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Speaker 3: When the when the turbo that night dinner run, We're

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a little worried. And then from there we just knew

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it was going to be close. We were just is

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this going to make it? Iss going to We're just

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trying to hit certain you know, benchmarks along the way

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to this million dollar guarantee. You know, we wanted to

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hit obviously keep it, keep it to six figures, keep

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it to a soft guarantee, you know when you include

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the ring.

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Speaker 2: And it was definitely a sweat.

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Speaker 3: Obviously made it in the last break of the hyper

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turbo level when a couple of people bust and jump

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back in and then yeah, look we did make it.

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Speaker 2: It's it was pretty nerve wracking.

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Speaker 3: We're probably going to make a few changes to to

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this event and even the one, the no limit version.

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But like, we ran really bad. And when I say that,

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when you're running these multi flight where you can put

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in a lot of bullets, no offense, but we're cheering

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for the people with the deeper pockets depends.

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Speaker 1: But we want you guys to bust out what I

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have said.

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Speaker 3: Them to that fest and I want you in for

473
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,960
twenty bullets, but I want you to cash for twenty two.

474
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: I want you to profit. I just want you to

475
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,519
put in a lot of bullets.

476
00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: And look Day one A, every player that bagged Day

477
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:22,119
one A, and you can as see anyone champions were

478
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,920
good for many many more bullets, many many more bullets,

479
00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:29,240
you know. So we were very bad in that aspect.

480
00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:30,960
But it's okay at the end of the day, we

481
00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:33,920
made it. We'll make some tweaks going forward, but.

482
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely missing a bunch of PGT regulars that have

483
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,920
traveled there in the past. Yeah, I don't remember if

484
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,880
Jeremy Osmas went to the PLO one last time, but

485
00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:46,200
did Gina Reim go to the po Low one last time?

486
00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:50,440
Red Lynn didn't. Then josh Ariean Deep like, you know,

487
00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:53,599
a bunch of bunch of PLO guys, slash PGT players,

488
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:57,039
you know that you might expect there, they didn't make

489
00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:57,640
the trip this time.

490
00:23:57,839 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, this is a bumber when it comes to

491
00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:02,759
our players. You know, there's a couple of reasons. First one,

492
00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:05,000
you know they've done Houston a few times. They didn't

493
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,720
want to go back. You know, they were playing in

494
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:08,519
to go to seminoles, so this was a good week

495
00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:12,000
off before doing Seminal Bahamas all those events. I understand

496
00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:15,200
that we also had a lot of new new faces

497
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:17,680
go Bryce Jockey, Chris Cossa, a couple of other guys

498
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,720
get down to to there for the first time and

499
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:23,319
they I played a lot of cash with Chris and

500
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:26,720
Bryce and they loved it down there, so you know,

501
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:29,160
it is a great spot. Also, we lost a couple

502
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,720
of our regulars that we were counting on being there.

503
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,200
They went to the APT event. And when I say regulars,

504
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,440
I mean three or four local Houston players. Okay, right

505
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:42,960
that a PLO that they only played plow decided to

506
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,640
do a little a little holiday November, So we lost those.

507
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:48,119
But the biggest problem was and you know, I think

508
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,240
we're going to touch on this. We did see a

509
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,400
big decrease, you know, we went from what is a

510
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,960
one point four million last year to just hitting the guarantee.

511
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:57,039
And it's a big issue in Texas right now.

512
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: I am shocked at how many rooms there are in Texas,

513
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:04,680
Like you see many. If you were to ask me,

514
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,440
obviously before I like look deeper into it, I probably

515
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,160
would have said, I don't know, six, Yeah, there might

516
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,000
be sixty. I mean, it's outrageous.

517
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 3: Houston is probably the most saturated with poker rooms. A

518
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,880
couple of big ones and then a lot of little

519
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,160
small ones. The problem with one of them, and you know,

520
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:25,240
I'm I'm gonna call them out TCH is you know

521
00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:28,599
what TCH. I've played at TCH in Austin one of

522
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,279
the most beautiful poker rooms I've ever played. And that's

523
00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:33,279
coming from someone that's played at the Winn and Aria

524
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:34,960
and Venetian all these places here in Vegas.

525
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,039
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

526
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: The TCH that I'm talking to about in Houston, they

527
00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:42,200
all kind of like different ownerships, Like it's not like,

528
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,680
you know, one hundred percent the same, and they are

529
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:47,680
kind of you know, they set their dates for a

530
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,000
main event. They had a twelve hundred dollars half a

531
00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:53,240
million guarantee on you know this week in November. We

532
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,440
scheduled our event to be to upset that. Okay, then

533
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,359
they moved their event over the top of ours to

534
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,720
basically try and take us out. What that meant was

535
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,240
you lose a lot of the fringe no limit hold

536
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,160
them guys that would have played a bullet or two

537
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,200
in the PLO. They're going to just stick to the

538
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:14,279
no limit. You know, people that you know you would expect.

539
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,680
You know, good Ray Henson, you know champions. He plays

540
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,359
a lot of Champions, plays a lot of cash there,

541
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,880
loves PLO, big support of the PGT. He decided to

542
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,920
put one bullet in the in the TCH event and

543
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,039
then he was going to play Champions the rest of

544
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:32,319
the week.

545
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:32,759
Speaker 2: Well guess what.

546
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,839
Speaker 3: He bagged that bullet so he couldn't play any of

547
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,440
the fights to Champions. Gabriel Andrade comes here, plays the

548
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,359
PGT PLO series, big PLO player. He decided to do

549
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,839
the same thing, put a couple of bullets in the

550
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,759
no limit holder events so you try and get lucky.

551
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,920
I think he put I think I heard he put

552
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,240
fourteen bullets and once you start getting a few bullets deep,

553
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,960
you start chasing those bullets. Of course, he actually didn't bag.

554
00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:03,359
He played the hyper Turbo Survive the Hypoturbo end up

555
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,960
cashing in our event anyway, But you know, losing a

556
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,640
lot of players there really hurts. Now talk about our satellites.

557
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,599
Our satellite program was great last year. This year nearly

558
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,559
non existent. Main reason was the people that play the

559
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,200
satellites have all been lured to some of these other

560
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,000
places because of all these new promotions they're running to

561
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,920
basically acquire, you know, all these customers. And you know, look,

562
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,240
we missed one guarantee this series, really small one. Otherwise

563
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,680
we made everything TCH was trying to kind of break.

564
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,440
Champions Club missed nearly every single day guarantee that they ran.

565
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,599
They missed the main event guarantee by fifty k. So

566
00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:44,680
it's a really expensive customer acquisition process for them. And look,

567
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,400
I think we can all be friends in Texas well.

568
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's kind of my point is that

569
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,440
I've started to get this sense, and this is just

570
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:56,559
my own personal opinion that the Texas market is really

571
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:58,759
just going to eat itself alive. Yeah, Like I don't

572
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:02,559
know how as many rooms that are down there can

573
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,200
survive like this, especially if they're going at each other's

574
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,880
throats all the time. Like I mean, I know Texas

575
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,079
is a huge state. I know poker is widely popular there.

576
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,559
I just I don't know how you can do it.

577
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,799
You know, now you have you obviously had the WPT

578
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,079
went down there, right, they had a prime event there.

579
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,720
Basically circuits going there, so like it's only going to

580
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:29,359
get more saturated. So I just don't know how much

581
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:33,880
these rooms can survive. And then ultimately if the rooms

582
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240
don't survive, the ones that are going to suffer are

583
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,279
the players.

584
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know they can survive. And you know, you

585
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,039
say like they're they're in they're in walls together, but

586
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,279
it's not. It's a very one sided wall because just

587
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:50,599
like Kia, you know when Aria Venetian, when the summer

588
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,799
schedule is set by WSP that we all kind of

589
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,559
talk and figure out where we want to do our

590
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,839
machi events and we put stuff around it. You know,

591
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640
we we play, we work with each other to create

592
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:04,079
so we can all benefit. Now for this, in this case,

593
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:07,440
most of the Texas rooms do that. You know, champions

594
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,839
have have a relationship with you know, the large up

595
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,240
in US and some other rooms, and they you know,

596
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920
make sure they don't overlap, don't schedule on top of

597
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,920
each other. But it's just this one room that's kind

598
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,359
of out for war. Doesn't seem like they're going to stop.

599
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,920
Maybe two months ago, Champions over a three hundred k

600
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,640
in their million dollar you know, summer event or whatever

601
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,000
it was called. They those dates are out and TCCH

602
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:34,880
moved an event to be over the top of it,

603
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:38,240
the same buying, same guarantee and miss they missed the guarantee.

604
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,839
That doesn't do anything for players. If you're a TCCH loyalist,

605
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,839
you'll play there. If you're Champions loyalists, you'll play at Champions.

606
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:48,480
But if you just go different weekends, you both can benefit.

607
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:50,599
I just don't understand why they're trying to do this,

608
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,119
but kind of yeah, it is what it is, and

609
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,640
we just have to deal with it. When you know,

610
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,359
we're creating our partner events there next year, we have

611
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,279
to take into account that, hey, this could be an sure.

612
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,440
You know, obviously we haven't missed the guarantee of Champions yet,

613
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,440
you know, four from four, How do we keep doing that?

614
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: Do we need. What adjustments do we need to make

615
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:11,359
to ensure you know we will be successful?

616
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: Moving on to the three five K high rulers that

617
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,119
took place, we already mentioned. Stephen Hubbard won event number

618
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,119
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619
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,920
kre on Brevin Andreatis one number two for thirty eight thousand,

620
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:27,480
five hundred dollars, and then Bryce Jockey one number three

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650
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651
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are the biggest deals we've ever I know. I said

652
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,839
at the top of the show that we were going

653
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,160
to talk about these big events. We're not going to

654
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440
talk about those big events. I just got a message

655
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,240
that we have to get out of here because they

656
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,000
gotta do testing and stuff. So here's what we're gonna do.

657
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,000
I do want to hit on a family pot that

658
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:23,200
I tease you personally. Yeah, so let's do that. We'll

659
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920
talk about this other stuff, the app A p T

660
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:28,680
I knew I was going to do that, the APT Championship,

661
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:31,759
b SOP millions, and then we'll also have WPT Rock

662
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:33,359
and Roll poke Rope and we'll have wrapped up so

663
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,759
we can do all those together. I also think, you know,

664
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,640
we both know Fred Lung, the CEO of the Message,

665
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,880
who're try and get him on the show talk about it.

666
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:43,559
That event was bananas.

667
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: It was.

668
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: It was so bananas that Tim and I were likely

669
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,599
should we go in. We're going exactly exactly. So I

670
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,200
also talked to a bunch of players. I got some

671
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,920
kind of first hand insights into that series over there.

672
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,039
So we'll hit on all of that. But I want

673
00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,440
to get into this this family pot because it's our

674
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,119
show and we can whatever. I got two little ones,

675
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,720
so go ahead, you go for me first, Yeah, go

676
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,160
and play the music, sure, go ahead, it's.

677
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: Does family all right?

678
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: What are you guys.

679
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,599
Speaker 3: I'm going to send this video to Rich inside. So

680
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,599
I brought a treadmill a few weeks ago. Plot of

681
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,759
Black Friday sales. You know, got early why you can

682
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:24,400
run outside.

683
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:26,759
Speaker 2: I hate running outside. I'm an inside guy.

684
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate running on treadmills.

685
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,079
Speaker 2: I've set up my finance pod and get in the design.

686
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:34,599
Speaker 1: You know, you can take the pod. No, no, no.

687
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:36,559
Speaker 3: I like to watch because then I get distracted and

688
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:39,160
I can get through, like thirteen miles really easy.

689
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,119
Speaker 2: Came in a big box, right, it's a big treadmill.

690
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Came in a big box. My son, who is nine

691
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,920
and he's not autistic, likes boxes and likes forts. He's

692
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,400
like a cat.

693
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: So we kept this box that is seven feet long

694
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,279
in the living room. He put all his all his

695
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:57,279
stuffed animals. He put all the blankets in the house,

696
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,000
and he made it a four. The video I just

697
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,319
sent Ridge. He wanted to sleep in the fort downstairs

698
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,480
a couple of different nights, so he slept in there

699
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,759
and I took a video. So I sent that other one.

700
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:10,159
You know, I think a couple couple of Christmas ago,

701
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,559
we put a little Rubik's cube and he's like stucking

702
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,280
you know, obviously you have to be pretty damn smart

703
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,400
to be able to solve his Ruby's Cube and it's

704
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,800
just been sitting there. He brought it to me two

705
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,480
days ago, fully solved, and I go, did you do this?

706
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:26,760
He goes yeah, And I thought maybe he peeled the

707
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,639
stickers off. That would make sense, and he goes, I

708
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,119
did it. I'm looking at him and he's like, got

709
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,920
a straight face. I'm like, you cheated?

710
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: How did you do this?

711
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,039
Speaker 3: And he goes, what are you talking about? And I'm

712
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:39,719
just looking at him in the eyes and he goes, oh,

713
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,880
I used a rublic a Ruby's Cube solver. I'm like okay,

714
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,559
And then he ran away and I was like, am

715
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:48,320
I should I be proud of him for that? Or

716
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,440
should I be worried? And he brought it back.

717
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: I really just problem solving in a way.

718
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:53,559
Speaker 2: I re jumbled it.

719
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: And then the next day he's like, I sold it again.

720
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,239
I'm just like, I'm not sure if I should be

721
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,760
proud that he found a way to cheat all that.

722
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,280
I mean cheat, I don't know, but it's like I

723
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,239
was impressed that he somehow found this and then still

724
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,840
so you still probably got to follow steps kind of

725
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,280
like doing Lego to solve it.

726
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: But that's yeah, amazing, No, okay, I mean it's like math,

727
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,719
you know. Now we just type stuff in a calculator

728
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,480
and we just move on with it. You know, we didn't.

729
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,039
We don't really. I mean, yeah, we used the math,

730
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:24,599
but you know, did you have a second one?

731
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: No? That was two different yea.

732
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: So mine, I tease this with you and Rich and

733
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:33,559
it's been I think it's been two weeks now, three

734
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:43,199
weeks now. So my wife is a huge reality TV

735
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,519
show person. She loves Bravo, She loves the Real Housewives,

736
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:50,119
all this sort of stuff. Bravo Con is their huge

737
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,320
conference takes place here in Vegas. She went, I think

738
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,159
last year or two years. I think last year. She

739
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,079
wanted to go this year. Okay, I think she told

740
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,000
me about it, you know, back when the tickets were

741
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,800
announced or whatever several months ago. Tickets ended up snap

742
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,880
selling out, you know whatever. We go out to her

743
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,880
birthday dinner, her and I she tells me that, like,

744
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:16,480
Bravo CON's coming up, and you know whatever, one or

745
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:19,480
two weekends, we're gonna have to pay for the tickets whatever,

746
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:23,880
blah blah blah. Okay, fine, cool. At no point had

747
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,960
it been told to me what these tickets cost. I'm

748
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,360
basically going off of what they cost the last time,

749
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,440
which I thought was ridiculous, which I think was around

750
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,079
three to four hundred dollars. But it's like, you get

751
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:36,400
three days, it's like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, like, you know, whatever,

752
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,039
this is what she wants to do. You know, it's fine,

753
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:40,480
she can go do it. Three hundred dollars is not

754
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:45,960
gonna kill me. So, like a week or so before

755
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,159
the event, she tells, she's like, hey, don't forget, we

756
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,760
have to pay for the Bravo Con tickets. We have

757
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,960
to send so and so the money. I'm like, okay,

758
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,639
how much are they? She goes twenty five dollars. I

759
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,920
go twenty I go twenty five. What it's twenty five hundred.

760
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:06,719
It's twenty five hundred dollars. What in God's name are

761
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,719
you doing at Bravo Con. She's like, we had to

762
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,239
get VIP. I'm like, what do you had to get VIP?

763
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,559
What are you talking about? So she drops this on

764
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:20,119
me a week beforehand. Now she then tells me that

765
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,079
she told me the price, and it's this whole thing

766
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:27,000
and I'm like, there's no ethan way that you told

767
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,760
me the price, because I would have screamed at you,

768
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,760
not like at you, but like just screamed in general

769
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:36,000
about how absurd it is that you want to spend

770
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,320
money for twenty five hundred dollars. I was like, do

771
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,639
you know how much money that is? That's more than

772
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:43,280
our mortgage payment for you to go hang out with

773
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,400
these Bravo celebrities, Like, come on, this is ridiculous. You

774
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,239
can't do this. Then, so she's trying to tell me

775
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,920
that she told me the price. The whole time. I'm like,

776
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,480
there's no way you told me the price, because if

777
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880
anyone knows me, I would have freaked out about the price.

778
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,360
I would have told you no, like, if you want

779
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,119
to go whatever, you know for the the cheaper version

780
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,039
of the regular version, like that's totally fine. She's trying

781
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:04,400
to tell me that she she's like, you have to

782
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,920
go VIP. I'm like, you didn't go VIP last time.

783
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,679
You had a freaking ball, Like, I don't understand what

784
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,880
the hell's going on. Then she tells me that her

785
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,800
friend that purchased the tickets, She's like, well, she never

786
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,079
told me the price and I was like, I was like, okay,

787
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:24,119
so hold on, So your friend bought tickets and she

788
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:27,079
didn't tell you the price. Therefore your story does not

789
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:29,320
count because you could not have told me the price

790
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,800
if your friend never told you the price. Okay, I

791
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,320
gotta trying. Then she also says that, well, so and

792
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,360
so bought the tickets, and like I kept asking her

793
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,760
for the price, but she couldn't give it to me

794
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,039
because she didn't know. And I'm like, what the fuck

795
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:43,079
do you mean she didn't know? She just bought like

796
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,960
five tickets on her credit card for twenty five hundred

797
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,280
dollars each and didn't know how much they cost? Is

798
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,440
this person a billionaire? Like what is happening? And then

799
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:53,679
she's trying to tell me that well, we can just

800
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,199
tell the person we can't go. I'm like, you committed

801
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:01,360
to this, it's a week ago. You're screwing that person

802
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,519
out a twenty five hundred dollars yep. Who is also

803
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,880
quite ridiculous that she doesn't know how much she spot

804
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,239
for these tickets. So it's this whole thing for like

805
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,360
a week. I'm like, I cannot believe you spent twenty

806
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:15,880
five hundred dollars on a goddamn ticket to Bravocar. Now

807
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,719
she had the freaking time of her life and great

808
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,679
and listen, I probably and also at the birthday dinner,

809
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,920
I bought her tickets too. She wanted to go see

810
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,840
Brandy and Monica, who came out here at Allegiance Stadium.

811
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,000
I bought her tickets to that. So she was like,

812
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:30,480
I thought it was weird when you gave me those

813
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,639
tickets knowing that I was going to bravocn and they

814
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,519
cost that much money. I was like, so you didn't

815
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:38,840
say anything, like you didn't tell me, And it's not

816
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:42,119
so much that I was first, yes, I was pissed

817
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:44,559
off at the price. I think it's fucking absurd to

818
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:48,119
spend twenty five hundred dollars on that sort of thing. Now,

819
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,199
if you would have told me, like in April, I

820
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,719
could have, like, you know, done the thing, like I'll

821
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,159
put two hundred dollars away like whatever, Like it's not

822
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,519
not that big of a deal, like twenty five hundred

823
00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:01,920
dollars money to go to bravocon And then on top

824
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,519
of it, it's even more than twenty five hundred dollars

825
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:06,159
because you buy some things there you get some souvenirs.

826
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,840
We got to get a babysitter on one of the

827
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,880
one or two of the days. Like it's a whole thing.

828
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,760
I'm just like, this is ubsurd. I'm like, do you

829
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,719
realize you going to Bravo con costs more than our

830
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,440
family trip to Disneyland. I was I was losing my

831
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:20,679
mind for I don't know, a week and a half straight,

832
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,599
Like I was so tilted and I had to play

833
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,119
napt and I was like, stop talking to me about this.

834
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:26,920
I can't handle it. I want to focus on poker.

835
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:29,159
Like this is absurd that you're even spending this money.

836
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:31,519
Don't try and justify with me. You're like, it's a

837
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:36,800
whole thing. It's a whole thing. So yeah, anyway, twenty

838
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,960
five hundred dollars for fucking bravocn is app. I said,

839
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,519
that's why all those people on those shows are rich,

840
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:43,800
because they're charging twenty five hundred dollars for people like

841
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,400
you to go to this fucking show that is out

842
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,159
of control. Twenty five hundred dollars, Like what what were

843
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,719
you doing? Like, honestly, what were you doing? Anyway? It's

844
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,360
bringing back my negativity and in this bad energy and

845
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,639
I want to get rid of this.

846
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: It's gone, but you know, it is what it is.

847
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:06,639
Speaker 1: Chef. Of course, she had a freaking blast, and I

848
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,679
love that she had a blast, and and I want

849
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,719
her to go to these things, but you can't drop

850
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,360
twenty five hundred dollars on me with six days notice.

851
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: Like that.

852
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: We're not in that sort of financially stable position that

853
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,760
I can just be like, yeah, go ahead, here's twenty

854
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,800
five hundred dollars. Yeah, you know. And of course she

855
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,880
tries to throw the you know, well, you go play

856
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,679
these poker tournaments and bah blah, I'm like, okay, First

857
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:28,599
of all, the poker bankroll is always separate. It's always separate.

858
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,960
Then everything else we have to pay for, and it's planned,

859
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:33,960
I give you well in advance, you know that that

860
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,239
this is what I'm doing. Whatever. And again it's not

861
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,840
that I don't want her to do these things. I

862
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,800
definitely want her to do these things. But you cannot

863
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,239
drop twenty five hundred dollars in my lap with six

864
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,719
days notice. It's just absolutely absurd. All right, that's going

865
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,599
to do it for us on this show. We're basically

866
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:51,880
getting kicked out of our own studio.

867
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,519
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

868
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:56,079
Speaker 1: It really is unbelievable. We have the PGT True Classic

869
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:58,480
rag Stitches right here, this trophy, all that sort of stuff.

870
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,599
Speaker 2: It's coming out well done.

871
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: December second through fifth here at the studio, streaming all

872
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,519
four days. That's the one we were telling you guys

873
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:07,559
about for so long, that fifteen winners are gonna come

874
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,000
out here and play at the studio, So be sure

875
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:11,599
to tune in for that. I'm gonna be on commentary

876
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:14,239
for some of the days alongside Remco. I believe it's

877
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,599
Brent Hanks and Jeff Platt for the Final Table commentary.

878
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,440
So we have all that coming up on the next show,

879
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:22,320
will either be sometime during that event, maybe after the event,

880
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,039
but we'll hit on this event, we'll hit on all

881
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:25,480
the other events that we want to talk about, and

882
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:27,920
you know, we'll give our takes on the poker drama stuff. Okay,

883
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,960
so quick and easy. Again, they're kicking us out of

884
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,719
our own studio, but we got to live with it.

885
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,199
So for Tim Duckworth, my name is Donni Peters, and

886
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,159
we will talk to you guys next time you

887
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,519
Speaker 3: Jay

