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Speaker 2: So welcome in first foremost.

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Speaker 3: The architecture of the show, the one the only former

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Speaker 4: Ronnie, how you living?

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Speaker 5: Happy Friday? Ready for the weekend over my thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Ronnie's had a rough one.

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Speaker 3: Uh you know, hey, there must be bitter, there must

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Brett always bringing the hammer hammertime show.

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Speaker 4: How that are you, buddy?

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Speaker 6: I have your daily update for what's happening with the

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Big Twelve court. Since we change it every day, it

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has changed again today. So they've added now a white

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line for the half court. They've gotten rid of the

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ugly like X two lines throughout the entire court, and

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now you actually have something that looks like it's made

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of what. It's not, but it looks like it's made

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of what now, so it looks like a regular basketball court.

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So maybe the Big Twelve is like, okay, the worst

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teams who play early in the tournament, they get to

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play on the suckier version, and then the further you

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go in the tournament, the more playable we will make

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the court for you.

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Speaker 4: So interesting theory from Brett Young.

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Speaker 3: I think like, look, when you're an early adopter, like

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Brett or Mark, you you run with things before you're prepared.

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I'll give you an example. We got feed back on

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the Big twelve proda. I mean it was it was

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not good. The first year of the Big twelve protain

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not good. Why did he go with a Big twelve protein? Well,

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he could maximize like television revenue with it. You could

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have sponsors to every little thing of it. You bring

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the media out there. It's a big it's it's a

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big circus. It's fantastic, right Like b YU had a

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great thing going with their respective uh pro days, right Like,

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was it was like prim prime, pristine. They executed at

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the highest levels. Now like DYU wasn't monetizing that. It

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was just an event for their team and their players. Right,

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Brett Jomark steps into the Big twelve. Hey, you want

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to be a part of our our team, you want

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Speaker 3: You didn't have a half court line, so if you're

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don't even know where half court is, Like I don't

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know if I'm in like my five seconds here, Like

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Speaker 3: And then you I think they're going to keep the

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logos of Wilson sixty six logans those are still on.

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Speaker 4: The court, right. Oh, yeah, they have to keep that.

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or sorry sorry yeah, yeah, correct Phillip sixty six anyway.

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like go forth with something and never make a mistake,

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especially when it's highly visible. Most I'll tell you one

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thing most people in life are are are fearful and

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they don't take risks that they end up regretting. Brett Yormark,

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he's wanting to take all the risks. He's like, we'll

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risk taker, he's a businessman him salf form or b

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what you create? The legendary General Cameron Jensen, my teammate,

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my team captain.

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Speaker 2: What's up, General, Oh? Ben rise and shout man. It's

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good to be back in the saddle.

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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure. It's a blessing to be in your

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presence once again. You've been busy. Give us a little

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update on what's been keeping you busy, you know recently.

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Speaker 4: What have you been up to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been doing organizational design work. It's kind of

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what I graduated in and so was out in California,

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did a project out there. Now back here?

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Speaker 4: Nice? What's been back in Provo or not pro no?

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Speaker 2: In U you country right now?

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Speaker 4: Really is that where you're at?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: The all manner of heathens and hedonism up there in

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Speaker 4: I can take that much.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's not rubbing off on me.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry, Okay, thank goodness. Yeah, I do not be

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influenced by the great and spacious.

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Speaker 2: But it's been great, man, it's great. The spring ball started.

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Oh just gets me fired up. I love. We've only

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had to wait two months and now we get a

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little fix until the four months before the season. But oh,

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it's been fun seeing this team the offseason, and man,

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I'm so excited for what twenty twenty six will bring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give me a little state of the program from

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your perch, from your perspective, how are you feeling about

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this Cougar football team? Kolani Shataka getting his contract extension,

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the retention of players and coaches, Give me, like your

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your state of the program. Cameron Jensen, the president of

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BYU Football overseeing all this, it could eventually happen. But

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give me your state of the program address. You know, Ben,

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I always start with the culture. And when you look

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at what's happened the whole Kilanie almost leaving to Penn State,

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he stayed, Jay Hill leaving but still maintaining program. No

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players leaving the program. We didn't have really any offensive

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players leave on their own accord. And so just when

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you look at that culture aspect in today where college

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football is so different, where basically players need to op

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in every year. Man the culture that they're building and.

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Speaker 2: The players want to be here as me so excited

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because when players do that and they commit, there's ownership meaning,

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oh I didn't have it, it's I'm committed. I choose

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to come here. I'm getting off. You don't think Bear

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didn't get offers such Wala didn't have offers to leave.

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These players had offers. There are people coming in this portal.

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And I love how Aaron Rodrick jokes he doesn't want

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to talk about players because there is you know, there's

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so much of that. We kept our team. A ton

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of Visa State people wanted to stay. LJ wanted to stay.

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That speaks volumes. It gets me so excited because Once

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that's culture's there, you can really build upon it. And

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so looking at it, Ben, look we made it to

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the conference championship. We have core, the core players coming

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back and key positions. Bear obviously his developments vital this offseason.

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Our defense, I expect them to get better even with

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losing players like Jack Kelly, but we've got our core back.

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I want to see this team take that next step.

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We're gonna get against Texas Tech again, and what are

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we gonna do differently? A big key state of the

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program is our skill positions wide receiver. Everybody's talking about those.

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going to talk about some who we like later in

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the show. But who's going to fill those gaps to

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where our offense can be a true dual threat where

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Bears not only completing the short to mid rage one,

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it's twenty to twenty five yard downfield and what receivers

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are going to make those plays? And so a lot

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to look at the spring all. I'm excited if you

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can't tell, but the state of the program, I'm bullish

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on it. I love what Kilanie's done. I love the culture,

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the players, the leadership, coming back. There's a lot that

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has me excited. But there's a lot of things we

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Speaker 3: Done, no doubt, there's got to be a sense of urgency.

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You can't get complation. Now Kilanie's coined the phrase stay humble,

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stay hungry. It's all about continuing to put in the

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lonely work and putting in the work, you know, and

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and getting in their rime strength and conditioning, nutrition, individual

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skill development. But the foundation culturally, the foundation schematically is there, man,

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we're talking about scalable growth as a you know in

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business and in sport, the continuity of chemistry culture scheme.

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How imperative is that to have kind of this sequential

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macro growth within our program, even marginal growth, especially when

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you are winning eleven games, even micro growth is could

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get you over the edge to beat a team like

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Texas Tech or the high level teams that are in

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the COUL Football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so much, Ben, And look, we had a

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quarterback freshman last year come in not even during spring ball,

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he didn't have spring ball. He came in and you know,

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it's huge to where he knows the system the defense

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knows the system. Obviously K Pop is going to do

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a few things here or there, but it's the same system. Yeah,

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the players have learned it. They know it, so you

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can work on I'm going to use a Bronco term here,

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position mastery. But it's a real thing when you're not

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having to learn a new scheme in the offseason. So

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that this upcoming Fall game is the first game. In

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this game, you've already played, you have film on it,

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all these things, it's a huge step ahead. Offense, Bear's

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not learning a new system, he's just learning on mastering

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the system right there. That's huge. And then you have

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the players the key leadership. That's what I want to

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see developed Bear to take that leadership role and really

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progress in that role, holding guys accountable so there is

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no drop off. You've got to have those guys on

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the team that are going to push, that are going

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them in the film room. And so that's what I

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really want to see in his development, and especially he

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needs to spend a lot of time with those receivers,

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building that chemistry. He has it. He has it all spring,

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he'll have it all tell the season. I want to

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see that develop because it's again it's the scheme's there,

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we know it. It's those little things, the nuances. Are

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we going to get those fade routes to wear against

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Texas Tech? We complete a few of those totally changes

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the game. So that's done right now that work. I

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want to see that chemistry and how these we got

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them develop this spring and throughout the offseason.

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Electric UTAH dot Com. Cameron, you're one of the best.

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You're one of the best defensive players in BA football history.

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You're one of the best linebackers in BYU football history.

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I think in many ways at the in the inception

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of like the the glory days of b y u Uh,

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we were QBU in many ways in shapes and forms,

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right Virgil Carter, and then you had Gifford Nielsen and

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Mark Wilson and Jim McMahon and Steve Young and Ty

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Deptmer and John Wallas and you just keep going, going

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to Steve sarkes In et cetera.

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Speaker 4: All these guys coming in.

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Speaker 3: Then you have the modern era stepping up and Brandon

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doman And and John Beck and Max Hall, and then

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Taysom Hill, Zach Wilson, Jenn Hall, Keaton Slovis is in

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the NFL still and now you have Bear Bachmeer.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's really cool to see end the look.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jake retslaw Uh is a good quarterback too,

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and he had he has he had his two years

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and he could have had a third year. It's unfortunate

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what happened, but it is what it is. But a

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lot of great quarterback play. I still feel like in

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the modern era, b YU is lb U.

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Speaker 2: I'll take it right right. I mean, look at all

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that whatever position you say that the call is that,

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you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean look at I mean, look at the NFL, Cale

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Van Noy and Fred Warner. I mean you play in

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the league, Ryan David, go down the line of linebackers

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Alani Fua, Spencer Hadley like it's it's.

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Speaker 4: L b U in the modern era.

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Speaker 3: Here you're looking at obviously Jack Kelly who just killed

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it at the combine, Isaiah last years there.

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Speaker 2: Had a great year. It got banged up a little bit, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yeah, and that happens, right, but uh

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so many great linebackers have.

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Speaker 4: Come through b YU.

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Speaker 3: And you go even you know, further back with the

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freight train Robert Morris and shame you or Brook.

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Speaker 4: And you can make an argument that in.

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Speaker 2: The left shame your Brook was my guy that poster

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all growing up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just fantastic football player.

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Speaker 3: So I guess give me your opinion of the current linebackers,

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to you? How this can continue to be lbu there

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in provo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna miss miss Jack Kelly. I loved watching

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him play four. I know he just had that closing speed.

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especially the Texas Tech game, that closing speed and he

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was just stalwart in there and I think really held

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that defense together from his leadership and his presence. So

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he'll definitely be missed. But uluave coming from cal I

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haven't seen much of him obviously, but you hear great

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things and he start I understand he's first on the

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depth chart coming in right there says a lot. That

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means he's already earned the respect from his team, his teammates,

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because that's a that's an important position. I'm a little biased,

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but I like what I hear from him, and I

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think he'll be a great you know again, continuing.

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Speaker 3: One of the best linebackers of the transfer portal Robo

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the three man, Weaver said, this is maybe the best.

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I can't I don't want to misquote you here, Ronnie,

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but I think you said something the effective like this

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may be the best transfer portal acquisition that we've had

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in this modern era.

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Speaker 4: It was that accurate, Ronnie, I think, yes.

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Speaker 5: I said it's not Jack Kelly.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, linebacker Jack the number one linebacker out of the

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transfer portal is the best get out of the transfer

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portal and BYU history arguably. I mean, you don't get

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that normally, but this day and age you do. So

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yeah you quote it, Dirrect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So so I'm right there with you. Okay,

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it's a great player, als acc player. He's He's done

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it at a very high level. We expect him to

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do at a high level here at b YU.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for him. And then you look at depth,

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you look at what other players we have. Isaiah Glasker

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obviously he's out not playing right now, but we have

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enough film on him what he does. I want to

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see him get a little more, a little thicker, I think,

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you know, put on a little more muscle mass this year.

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But like what he obviously the president he had, he's

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a great player, Sarah. And then you look at these

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additions Clifton from Kansas State, excited to see him, feeling

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and just the depth of this linebacker. Kafusi so so

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I'd like this. I love the depth that we're seeing

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and just this unit, the experience. We also have Glasger

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Sira Ulavie who've played We have some great I mean

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they've played a lot of football. Yeah, and so I'm

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really excited about that the experience sprinkled in with some

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of these new guys. I love the experience and depth

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and leadership from these guys. Man, that's a that's a

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killer starting crew right there.

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Speaker 3: Ye Isaiah Glasker, Askofusi, Miles Holli has gotten some love,

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Michae Kafusi, Sarah Eframasciata Berkeley, Alfrey Pearson, Watson owen Borg,

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Jake Clifton, Kansas State transfer, Blake Lowe, Gauge Tanner, Daniel

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tamoy Peyu is Eastern Washington transfer. He's the brother of

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Nucy tamoy Peu. And then you got kid Uluwabe. You

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could also include possibly in that group these outside edge guys.

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You know, Nucy talmoy Peyo, Yeah, is kind of a

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hybrid Linebacker's somewhere than Jack Kelly, who can He can

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probably line up in a two point and he he'd

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probably be a five tech if you really needed.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to see that specifically, and when

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you look at our defense, our ability to get to

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the quarterback with a four man rush and we could

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use a linebacker in there or that kind of hybrid player,

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those are great. It's our ability if we can get

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to the quarterback and a four man rush similar to

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what Texas Tech was able to do. Again, I'm looking

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at Texas Tech's kind of a standard right now in

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the conference. What did they do that where we're not.

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the quarterback. Obviously they have guys going high in the

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draft this year, but you know just that that is

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what that does for your defense, and especially the one

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we run with a lot of man concepts. If we

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can do that, that changes the whole We can be

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more aggressive. That opens up so much what k pop

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can do where we don't have to blitz four or

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five or five or six so man that if we

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can develop one of those going into next year where

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we have that true threat where team's not it's not

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just threat being teams have to schematically change what they're doing,

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whether that's a chip block or you know we're going

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to overload here, whatever that is if we can have

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that presence and develop that pass rusher man, I love

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this defense can do because this defense is already good. Yeah,

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I'm like, if we could add that component a pass rusher,

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whether from the linebacker hybrid man.

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Speaker 3: K Pop told us last year that they're looking to quit.

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They're looking to obtain a thirty sack total every season.

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That's now last year they they they got to that thirty.

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Speaker 4: They got thirty.

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Speaker 3: They were a little bit slow on the on the

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front end, but on the back end they kept up.

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Speaker 4: They really accelerated and that that put them at like

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forty seventh I think, or so like in the you know,

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in the.

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Speaker 3: Top almost third of of college football with thirty secs.

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Speaker 4: But there were some havoc rate too. There was pressures.

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Speaker 2: It's and what what we what we can do to

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change the scheme with the offense. They don't want to do,

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but they have to do. And so, like you said, Rek,

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havoc I think is something that's extremely important outside of

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just the stacks sacked statistics. But I like that thirty

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we got thirty last year. If we do thirty again, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so it's a combo of your linebackers and defensive linemen.

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And you know, I was chatting with a few people

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about like thirty front versus forty front like traditionally.

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Speaker 4: The reason why I bring up.

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Speaker 3: To the l b U, I just I don't know if

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b YU, I don't know if b YU will ever

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be a traditional four down front like you saw versus

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Text step because I just don't know if we have

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the dogs, like the true dogs.

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Speaker 4: That it takes, like.

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Speaker 2: To that position. It's somebody that can play that end

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position that can not only stop the run and be

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an elite pass rusher. Like it's just I'm just saying that.

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Speaker 3: It's like saying like, oh, we need lockdown corners at

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b YU.

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Speaker 4: All all the time.

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Speaker 2: Is similar.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, I we you don't have four lockdown

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corners all the time at b YU. You don't always

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have eight dogs along that defense or because you typically

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need it too deep, right, What you do have traditionally though,

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is like eight really good.

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Speaker 2: That's what I would say, get really good. That position

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is so hard to recruit for.

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Speaker 4: Everyone struggles with it.

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Speaker 2: Everyone does.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why Text was is because they got

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that oil.

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Speaker 2: Money, they got that black gold, they paid money.

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Speaker 3: They got that black gold and they allocated it judiciously, And.

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right. It's really hard. But we have linebackers

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that can do that, that can disrupt if you put

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them in the right situation. So I like what you're saying.

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Maybe we don't get that true defensive end in a

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just normal sense, but we can use those linebackers creatively

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to do the same thing, disrupt and cause offenses to

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scheme for it.

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Speaker 3: So, from a pass rush standpoint, are there any players

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that you're most intrigued by to become kind of like

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your premier pass rushers on this roster between the defensive

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line and linebacking units. I can go through a few

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of the names that are intriguing to me. Body Schoonover

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I think is a really nice prospect. He's coming into

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his senior year as a redshirt senior Hunter. Claig Tausi,

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Leia Khanna. You have new Si Tompeu.

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Speaker 4: I really like him a lot.

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Speaker 2: He's probably one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeahucy Noose has got the juice, as they say,

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a couple of newcomers as Young Bucks and Kendall wall

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and Braxton Lindsey Adney Reid has Uh has been heralded

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as a potential guy down the line that could be

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really good. But do you have like your defensive tackles

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that are pretty good in their one on ones? Villi

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Ambi Puja anc Percel keavas Uluvaifantully justin Kirkland Uh and uh,

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I mean there's uh, there's some good guys there. There's

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no doubt good good football players.

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Speaker 4: Uh. In that defensive front.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ton of You gotta love what he's done and

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the fact he's stuck around.

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Speaker 4: He's the best pass rush though on this.

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Speaker 2: No, it's hard to think of one coming from the

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nose or tackle position. But man, there's so many of ones.

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Speaker 3: If we watched one on ones, like you know what

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I mean, like who's gonna win like almost all of

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their one on ones because you know, like the the

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the As a so as a defensive back, you're in

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one on ones, you're at a competitive disadvantage and the

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wide receivers should should.

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Speaker 4: Beat you more often than not because he's got anywhere

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to go.

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Speaker 3: As an offensive lineman, you're kind of on the defense there,

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so like you're at a competitive advantage, so you're you're

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kind of supposed to win to a degree more often

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than you lose when you're a defensive lineman going against

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an offensive lineman in those one on ones. So who's

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the guy that you look at this like list of

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linebackers and defensive lineman and they're winning the majority of

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their one on ones.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Oh, yeah, i'd have to go uluab

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what I Okay, Yeah, I've what I've heard about him

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at practice. Yeah, I think I want to see what

518
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they're going to do in using him and his talents,

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what he can do in those one on one situations

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like they did with I think it's a lot of

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spy what we did with Jack Kelly, and then also

522
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using that spy as a late rusher, which I think

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we did and that's where he got a lot of

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his sacks. So I think they'll use him similarly in

525
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that position, and I think he'll do really well out it.

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I like how we spied it up. We spied it

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up and then allowed him to rush and contain the quarterback.

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So I think we'll do a lot of that with him,

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and I think he's going to get a lot of

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sacks from that.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk a little bit more about K pop's philosophies.

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Would you say that a K Pop is going to

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be an aggressive play caller that wants to wreak some

534
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havoc in the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think he's going to work

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with Colonie and Gary Anderson on that. I look at

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past performance, it's the best predictor of future. He'd love

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to be aggressive on special teams. Yeahah, and if it

539
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was there, and he said and like I said, well,

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Kelly's going to be He wants to win the game.

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He's not worrying about losing it, and so if he

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thinks it's there, but he's also going to be smart.

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I think he's going to be a mix. He'll be

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aggressive at times, you'll see a good balance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be over aggressive. Like we played

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in with coach Menenhall, we were blitzing what seventy percent

548
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so much. I think it's going to be well balanced

549
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and situational critical based upon that. So I think he's

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going to call he's going to put our players in

551
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the best position. But I know he's he's going to

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be holding back that wanting to be aggressive. He was

553
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under Bronco for a long time. Yeah, there was aggressiveness,

554
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but I think he's going to be a little more conservative.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because like I think at b Yu, we

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you know, when we played with K Pop, it was

558
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uh yeah, yeah, we we we did more zone pressures.

559
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We we did implement some man uh but he was

560
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a lot of zone pressure, so five and every once

561
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in a while maybe a six man pressure, et cetera,

562
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but a lot of zone blitzes. When they got to Virginia,

563
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I think they went a little bit more aggressive and

564
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then you know, from there, uh, you've had kind of

565
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a i'd say a pretty you know, balanced approach over

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the last few years with Jay Hill as the defensive coordinator.

567
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I wouldn't say you'd run a ton of man blitzes,

568
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but they they they're calculated zone pressures.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they calculated zone pressures. And I think you'll it'll

570
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be similar to what we done.

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Speaker 3: Simulated blitzes too, in conjunction with that, so they'll do

572
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a simulated blitz where they they're showing pressure and then

573
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they drop into coverage, drop a drop seven, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna look at thirty and what he

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needs to do to get to thirty and hopefully that's

576
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with four with it occasional. That's five here spying the

577
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quarterback with Labby like they did with Jack Kelly last year.

578
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So if he starts having to brief five or six

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to get to that thirty, I think he will. I

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think the number is going to be thirty. But what

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do we need to do to get there? And so

582
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I think this team we can get a lot of

583
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pressures with four five man blitzes still and enrich at thirty.

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We have the talent to do that.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a time out. We'll be back that segment.

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Speaker 4: And the band of the day is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's a soundtrack of F one Man. You didn't see

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the movie, but this is off the soundtrack F one Man.

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I became an F one fan after watching that movie.

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Sonny Hayes the characters. He's my spirit animal, so.

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Speaker 4: Lose my mind? Is the song? And Who's it?

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Speaker 3: By Ronald the three Man Weaver Don Tolliver, But I

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mean I see hammer time.

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Speaker 4: He's jamming out to it. As well.

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Speaker 3: You guys, this is this is a great movie and

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great sound times two or three you saw two or

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three times.

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Speaker 5: I saw it twice. Yeah, you for not watching and

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this is I'm surprised you haven't seen it.

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Speaker 4: I honestly, like, I loved all the Marvel movies that

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came out last year. I loved Superman. I'm a big

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comic book guy. Yeah, I think F one was movie

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of the year last year. I agree.

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Speaker 3: I think it was the best movie that came out

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with So in twenty twenty five, F one was the

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best movie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the character of Sonny Hayes, as I said,

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my spiritual.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen Top Gun Maverick?

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, So imagine like Tom Cruise is being

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played by Brad Pitt and he's racing F one cards five.

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Speaker 4: That's similar vibe there. Okay, I think that Mavericks was fantastic.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. The guy who directed that did yeah F one,

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So Okayan, like you're in a car the whole time.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Man, we get to do this to you. Now you

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have homework, so you have to go watch F one

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and then come.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'll watch Apple TV. Okay, I'll get it.

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I'll download it.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Yeah, You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Do we have an update on the b YU women's

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basketball game that ended up falling to TCU Horned Frogs.

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Speaker 4: Was it a big loss? Uh? I think I think

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it was sixty.

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Speaker 2: TCU.

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Speaker 4: Yeah is a tough one. I mean, he's us a

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very great run.

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Speaker 3: I hope I pray fingers crossed they can get into

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the NCAA Tournament.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't look it doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Say the first team out, then, yeah.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't look good. It doesn't look good that they're.

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Speaker 2: The first team out. It seems like whenever BYU's out,

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they're like the first team out.

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Speaker 3: I will say this, even though by basketball has had

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a rough season, I would I'd rather have kind of

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like this, like we didn't meet expectations, but we're still

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a seven seed. Then being on the bubble, like I

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can't tell you how often the West Coast I was.

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Speaker 4: Like, we're one of the first teams out. We're on

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the bubble again, we're gonna be in a playing game

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or you know we're gonna be out.

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Speaker 3: I mean that was a rough go of it during

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the West Coast Conference when we were always a bubble team.

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Speaker 2: Was right, I'll take it. Then that's a great way

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I'll take Oh, we're settling for a seventh seed, hopefully

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we beat Let's keep that mentality. So yeah, that's what I'm.

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Speaker 4: Saying is I am grateful.

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Speaker 3: I have an attitude of gratitude, Like, hey, it's cold

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out there, you know, Uh, there's a lot of snow.

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Uh it's uh, you know thing thing things. You know,

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you can get pretty sticky out there, but we needed

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the moisture.

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Speaker 4: I'm grateful. I'm grateful.

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Speaker 3: Gotta have an attitude of gratitude here on a on

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a Friday edition of Cougar Sports, no doubt about it.

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Hanging out with Cameron Jensen Bright I was bringing the

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hammer and Ronald the three man weaver. We've been talking

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Camp killiney twenty twenty six. Uh and BYU football. It's

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it's been great. It's been grand. It continues to get

706
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:43,119
more wonderful. As we break this Cougar football team down.

707
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:47,839
We uh, you know, I feel like we went into

708
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,400
the state of the program.

709
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: Right b Yu.

710
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:56,599
Speaker 3: Has gone now in a powerful conference, eleven and two

711
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,960
and twelve and two solid bowl games Alamo Bile, you

712
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:05,559
get an eight million dollars payout right fantastic. You beat

713
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,480
Dion in Prime and Shador and Travis Hunter. That was

714
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:13,599
a tremendous way to end the season. A little exclamation point.

715
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,279
Your only two losses this last year tex attack. I

716
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,160
know it hurt to not be competitive in those games. Ye,

717
00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:21,880
it really it did hurt Cougarnation because you see the

718
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,640
the the gap between elite and great, and you're like,

719
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,920
how do we get to elite?

720
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,519
Speaker 4: So well, I'm gonna ask you that.

721
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,599
Speaker 3: But you finish off the season with once again a

722
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:38,680
top twenty five win in the Pop Tards Bowl.

723
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: That was a spectacle. Man, it's awesome. It's awesome.

724
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: It's awesome.

725
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:49,079
Speaker 3: Like like you look at BYU football year over year,

726
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:54,599
and it's a rarity to get a bowl win versus

727
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,920
a top twenty five football team. It's so rare to

728
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,720
be able to get to a bowl game and win

729
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,279
that bowl game versus a double digit win G six team.

730
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:07,599
So if you're going to get like a ten win

731
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:11,839
G six team, that's tough. Or or go up against

732
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,720
a P four team that's ranked in the top twenty five.

733
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,759
And Bo, he's done it now in consecutive years, and

734
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,640
that's that bodes well for Brigham, no doubt about it.

735
00:33:20,759 --> 00:33:23,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I saw stat like in this new college

736
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,359
football Playoff era by US record, it's what fourth or

737
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,079
fifth in all of college football yep, And so gosh,

738
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,839
I love where we're at. I mean, it's a great

739
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,079
a great time to be a Cougar fan.

740
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:35,039
Speaker 4: No doubt about it.

741
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,559
Speaker 2: But there is it keeps us humble, Like you said,

742
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:42,079
to see how far we were away from Texas Tech

743
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,799
not only once, yeah, twice, and I'm not seeing improvement

744
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,359
even during the season, so that it keeps us humble

745
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,200
for that. But when you look back, you got to see, Wow,

746
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:52,279
look at what we've accomplished. How do we close that gap?

747
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,359
Speaker 4: No doubt about it. How do we close that guy gap?

748
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,039
Speaker 2: I think I thought a lot about it, closed the.

749
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:06,039
Speaker 3: Gap because it felt like that by you texted both

750
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:08,760
those guys were like, we're out matched. Yeah, you know

751
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,239
we're outmatched, right yeah, And like Ronald just whisper like

752
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,480
black Gold. But like, I don't, I don't know if

753
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:17,639
that is the difference, Like I don't want to believe

754
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:19,079
that that's ultimately.

755
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:22,199
Speaker 2: No, I don't think. I think that does play somewhat

756
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,960
of a role. But here's what I would say when

757
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,360
I look at those games, was we had a freshman

758
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,679
quarterback who is playing as good as a season as

759
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,840
a true freshman could. But he's still a true freshman.

760
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,360
We weren't a threat over twenty yards. We weren't throwing

761
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,480
the ball consistently or well, or our players weren't making

762
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,280
the plays in those So I remember the Text Tech

763
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,360
game there were a couple one on ones on the

764
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920
sideline with Chase Roberts and we didn't complete them. We

765
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,800
need to complete those. We need to stretch the stretch

766
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,760
the ball down the field and have playmakers. So I'm

767
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,079
looking at this wide receiver room. These young guys been

768
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,079
We have Jojo returning the only one twenty five catches.

769
00:34:58,159 --> 00:34:59,960
That's what that's the experience we have in this room.

770
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:04,079
Kingston's gone, Chase is gone, Carson Ryan's gone. But we

771
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,920
have guys that are gonna fill Jojo. Who are these

772
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,559
true freshmens we talked about Legend Glasker, who I'm excited

773
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:14,719
about coming in. Is we've got to have skilled positions

774
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:17,320
that make plays. Because we're gonna have a running back

775
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,639
quoted top running back coming back next year. Our offensive

776
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:22,920
line will fill in, We've got returners coming back. We'll

777
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,559
run the ball, but what's our ability to throw the ball?

778
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,800
And so how we close this gap in is Bear's progression.

779
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,000
You're one a year or two, arm strength and his

780
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:33,760
ability to stretch the field and be consecutive down the

781
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,320
field and our receivers making plays. That right there will

782
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,000
be the biggest biggest thing for us is that ability

783
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:46,920
and our growth during this offseason to create a culture

784
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,039
and see that translate on the field. To me, that's it.

785
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:52,599
It's our skill players making plays and Bear's ability to

786
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:53,280
stretch the ball.

787
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: Love that breakdown. I know, Ronald, you want to chime

788
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,599
in on a little something something What you got for me?

789
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think is I just I've looked at you know, Ben,

790
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,639
I ask a lot of questions and good to get

791
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:02,519
you and cams thoughts.

792
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 5: I think also as a look at Kylie Casper coming in,

793
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:05,679
you know.

794
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 8: The receiver group that they have, you know, I look

795
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,480
at the poola kid, you know, Legend Glask, A lot

796
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:11,840
of potential in this room. Right, You're gonna need a

797
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,639
guy like Keeling Mirre. And I watched Keelan all of

798
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,480
the college football playoffs and kept with all the BAU

799
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:18,320
guys that left because you know, I hate to see

800
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,840
them go. And I just watched Keelan's impact and I

801
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,039
was like, yeah, Ba, you needs that guy. And it

802
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:26,360
doesn't have to be the six to sixth guy.

803
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,559
Speaker 4: Right.

804
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be the possession guy.

805
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: Could be that guy.

806
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,639
Speaker 8: It could be Terrence certain They need the guy that

807
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:33,119
when the defense when they go to get there, when

808
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:34,840
they go to scheme it, and Cam's the defensive guy,

809
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,920
right and you were two, Ben, that guy has a

810
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,679
problem and if we need to mark him every single play,

811
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,599
it's like AJ and basketball and no, I'm going basketball.

812
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 5: He's a problem.

813
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 8: He's on the scout and report which receiver in his

814
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,679
room is really on the scout and report none?

815
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,519
Speaker 5: Really because they have to go prove it.

816
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 8: But I think BA needs a guy that can push

817
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,320
the ball vertically fifteen twenty twenty five yards every play

818
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:56,960
where the defense like if this guy gets over us.

819
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 5: And they throw it over our head, we fear that person.

820
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,679
Speaker 8: They need get that guy every year out of the

821
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,119
transfer portal bin or they need to go recruit him

822
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,599
hard and keep him at BYU. I think that's gonna

823
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,280
be a key because when I look at people like

824
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,239
Texas Tech, they have that guy. When I look at

825
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,760
the other big other SEC schools, big ten schools, they

826
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,079
have that vertical threat and BAU.

827
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 5: Doesn't have that yet.

828
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 8: They have potential, but they haven't had a guy where

829
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,880
if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm looking at the roster like, yeah,

830
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,519
I don't really scare you and I'm not worried about

831
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,199
you running twenty yards of them I had. But Keelin

832
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:26,920
was that guy, and I think that's what I just

833
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:28,960
I recognize of the going into the off season.

834
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think we need good vertical vertical threats.

835
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,400
I do think we had vertical threats last year. I

836
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,360
think Cody Hagen can be a vertical threat. I think

837
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,559
Parker Kingston the slot is a vertical threat. Like I

838
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,920
My thing is like I don't know. I think it's

839
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:48,000
more predicated off of like bear Bachmeyer's arm strength than

840
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:51,280
it is like the like our guys that that can run.

841
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,360
I think we have guys that can run. Legen Legend

842
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,679
can run. Cody can still run. Jojo too. I mean, look,

843
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,559
do you remember that like play action post from Jake

844
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,800
ritz Off like early and not this last season, but

845
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,079
the year prior at home at Lavelle Edwards Stadium and

846
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:09,119
he was like five yards away, Like Jojo can run too,

847
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,400
Like he can get behind guys like I.

848
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,079
Speaker 4: Now, Kielan is different, you know, Kielan is big.

849
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,119
Speaker 3: He's strong and fast, so he can absorb contact and

850
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,079
break through like hand fighting and things of that nature.

851
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,400
And we saw how how proliftic he could be uh

852
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:28,559
In in uh In in the College Football Playoff and

853
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,760
uh in the ACC this last year.

854
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,639
Speaker 4: He was fantastic.

855
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 3: But I really do believe it's predicated on Bear Bachmeyer

856
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,360
more than it is like the guys that are in

857
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,719
our wide receiver room right now. I believe that, And

858
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,159
like I just I want to see if you want

859
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,599
vertical throws with trajectory, with loft that guys can run

860
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:51,199
under him. That that that that guys can run under.

861
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,119
Bear's the one that needs to put in that work.

862
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,559
And then you got to scheme it out to where

863
00:38:56,559 --> 00:38:59,920
he can he can get into a throw. Because he

864
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,039
doesn't have Zach Wilson's arm, he doesn't have John Beck's arm.

865
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,639
His arm is maybe more akin to a Max Hall.

866
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,039
Max Hall was a tremendous quarterback and a phenomenal intermediate thrower.

867
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,480
He was a really good intermediate thrower. Now he could

868
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:19,000
he could loft it up there, but he did not

869
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:22,000
have the arm stakes of John nor Zach. I do

870
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,679
see Jaron Jaren had a better arm than than than Max,

871
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,400
but Max Max had a really nice quick release similar

872
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,719
to Bear. And I know they're different players as runners,

873
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,719
but but as throwers, I think I see a lot

874
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,159
of similarities in their shorts and intermediate passing. And Max

875
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,880
developed more of a deep ball as he put on

876
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:46,159
more weight in his career and good weight, muscle weight

877
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,039
rather than fat.

878
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: And so that's what I'm looking at.

879
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: I just I would love to see Bear put on

880
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:54,239
some lean muscle mass and and hopefully create a little

881
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,880
bit of elasticity of his core and and create more

882
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,119
rotational torque and more velocity his football.

883
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: And if you do that and you have a Keelan

884
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,280
Marion type, I don't know if we do we have

885
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,599
a Quelan Marion type. I don't think so.

886
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: I don't think we.

887
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:07,079
Speaker 3: I don't think we have a true wide receiver one.

888
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:09,559
But we got some good guys. We got some good

889
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:11,559
football players, There's no doubt about it. And maybe Kyler

890
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:14,719
Casper is gonna be finally healthy in his career and

891
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,679
can be really good.

892
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: Too, you know. And again Ben, as my defensive mindset,

893
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,000
I look at BYU, how would I scheme against him? Obviously,

894
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,880
every team is gonna say start with stop LG in

895
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,719
the run. That's what they're gonna do. Whatever that team

896
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,719
needs to do is how do we stop their run?

897
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,599
And so we're gonna have shots down the field. And

898
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,280
if we can develop that, if Bear can get some

899
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,519
more orange streak, make some of those throws, and we

900
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,000
can have players make plays not only the speed but

901
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:42,920
the ability to go up and get the ball and

902
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,719
help their quarterback out. Like in Texas Tech, we didn't

903
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,800
have any really receivers help Bear out. You know, Jojo

904
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,800
dropped a ball on a critical third down and the

905
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,760
Chase Roberts fades. They weren't completed those things. So if

906
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,480
we have that component with our running game, yeah, oh,

907
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,079
if we can complete some of those, that's deadly. So

908
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:07,000
that's the one thing Bear improving and receivers making plays.

909
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:10,000
If we have that with our already RB one that

910
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:11,840
we have, and I like our running backs that are

911
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,719
also developing behind him, man, I love that. And then

912
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,239
with our defense, oh man, it gets me excited. Yeah.

913
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: You know one thing that we're not really accounting for

914
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,599
right now. K Pop is going over to the defensive

915
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,280
side of the ball. Justin Enna is taking over the

916
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:29,920
special teams now He's not coaching a position group. He

917
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,440
is allocating all of his bandwidth, all of a strategic

918
00:41:33,079 --> 00:41:37,960
competitive mindset, to the special team's room. And so I'm wondering, Okay,

919
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,880
if I'm gonna have questions about this team, I may

920
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,199
have questions about Okay, how does the special team seen it?

921
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: Look? This next year?

922
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 4: You lost Will Farron, all time great kicker, and so

923
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:49,760
your place kicking? What's going on there?

924
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: Sam Vander also is graduated, So you're replacing a punter

925
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,880
and a kicker, and you have a new coach in

926
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,480
the special teams room and a new kick returner punter,

927
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:03,599
And yeah, I mean well, yeah, I think so yeah

928
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:05,360
because Parker, yeah, Parker punt returner.

929
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: And I think you have your kick returner.

930
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: Maybe returner yea, I said kicker, I meant punt return Yeah,

931
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:13,159
and your punt return's gone.

932
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,039
Speaker 4: So yeah, you could have a drop off. Like if

933
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:18,639
I have fear in my heart.

934
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,679
Speaker 3: Which I don't have much faith, but if there was

935
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,639
an inkling of fear creeping into my heart and doubt

936
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:26,360
in my mind, I'd be like, Well, if I'm a

937
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,559
betting man, I may say there could be a drop

938
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:30,159
off in special teams.

939
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if uh Enna is as aggressive as papinga.

940
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,719
You know, with that, I love the aggressiveness of being

941
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,440
a but you know, I think having a full coach

942
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,519
and Justin in is a great coach, fully focused.

943
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: And he's been a coordinator before, he's been a special

944
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,880
teams coordinator decordinator before as well.

945
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,679
Speaker 2: I know they've got you know, interns that help was

946
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,599
I mean, they've got a lot of resources. They're they're

947
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:54,239
helping with it. But no, I I I think losing

948
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,199
the kicker is all replacing them with the experience and

949
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,480
the punt returner in Kingston, I think is a big

950
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,400
Oh is gonna is gonna hurt. But uh yeah, we'll see.

951
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,800
That's definitely a good point.

952
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,199
Speaker 3: We need to We may need to get muse Bingham

953
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,079
on Ronnie next week to discuss this. I just started

954
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:11,639
thinking about, like, okay, what do I doubt? Where's the

955
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,199
fear in my heart? And there's there's two places it's okay,

956
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,920
the secondary coaching staff, how they keep this this secondary

957
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,199
moving in the right direction because you've got three new coaches,

958
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,880
And then I would say the special teams in it

959
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,679
because you lose so much personnel and you have a

960
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,119
new coach. Yeah, that's the that's the the combo there.

961
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:31,079
And like over the last three years, the special team

962
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:34,119
genate has been arguably the best unit on the football

963
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:35,760
team per ESPNSP plus.

964
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I really like our leadership too. Coming back, then,

965
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,159
how we close this gap, you know and key positions

966
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:43,480
bear a full another year under him. What we're going

967
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,760
to see from him? Improvement I hope is is is

968
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,400
going to be that you know, like we said, arm

969
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,679
strength in this ability we've got are the best running

970
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,360
back in the nation coming back, you know, a ton

971
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,719
of visa coming back on the defensive line ula and

972
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,440
then such a wall. I mean, all these guys that

973
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,639
have played uh critical, critical amounts of plays and their

974
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,400
leadership I think is vital coming back.

975
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: Let's take a break here. I want to come back.

976
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,920
I want to talk about like.

977
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,199
Speaker 3: College football as a whole, but in particular what you

978
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,159
saw from Indiana, because if you're going to try to replicate.

979
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,559
Speaker 4: With what anyone's doing right now, you're.

980
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: Like what the season they put together? Man?

981
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's crazy because you look at like their

982
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,400
team as a whole, recruiting wise, development wise, they're kind

983
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,280
of a a great model for you know, the position

984
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:40,480
mastery is about health, like like conserving, like they they practice,

985
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:44,239
they practice hard, but they they don't I think they

986
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,440
do more like walk throughs and they they're not banging

987
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,199
heads all the time, so like there's like a wear

988
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,519
and tear element, but they're still repping out a ton

989
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:57,960
of team, a ton of individual work, technique, work, schematic,

990
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,800
position mastery. Components of it. Uh, strength and addition is

991
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,400
a big portion of it. I don't know if you've

992
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,800
read up on Kurty any, but I want to talk

993
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,679
to you about that. And you know how far away

994
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:13,519
is BYU from you know, doing something like Kirk Signetti's building,

995
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:17,480
because I do think there are some similarities with you know,

996
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,800
what what BYU can do and what Indiana has done.

997
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1034
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get into it here, uh Kirk Signetti and Indiana. What

1035
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,239
they were able to accomplish is probably the most impressive

1036
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,000
thing in college football history. What we just experienced last

1037
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:25,360
year was unprecedented on.

1038
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: So many levels, so many levels.

1039
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: And some people will say, well, it has everything to

1040
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:33,079
do with like transfer portal and nil. I'm like, no,

1041
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:36,079
it has more to do with coaching and culture than

1042
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:39,280
it does transferportal and nil, I think, but give me

1043
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,400
your perspective on this, what happened?

1044
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:47,199
Speaker 4: How did this happen? And uh, is BYU capable.

1045
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 3: Of eventually, you know, creating something akin to what Indiana

1046
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,280
was able to accomplish and be at the top of

1047
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,519
the food chain in college football?

1048
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Ben, when you look at Indiana, look

1049
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,199
where they were four or five years ago. I mean,

1050
00:47:58,519 --> 00:47:59,519
they weren't winning any games.

1051
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: You know, one of the the worst. They're like, they

1052
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:05,119
may be the worst. They're the worst power four team,

1053
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,960
power five team in college football history.

1054
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: Let's just look at that as a stat So what happened?

1055
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:12,599
You know, what are the things he did? And it's

1056
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,480
it's a phenomenal story. And just to name a few,

1057
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:18,480
I look at what did he do differently than other

1058
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:21,119
teams or what they were doing before? At Indiana obviously

1059
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:22,760
he came in and there were a couple of things.

1060
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,239
Was what he I know, he emphasized production over like

1061
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,360
how many stars they had. For the transfer portal, they

1062
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,199
looked at is this player producing? And all they're recruiting

1063
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,519
they would say, does this player produce or not? We're

1064
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:38,320
going to play players that produce and aren't over the potential,

1065
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,519
just have the potential. I know, that was a big thing,

1066
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,400
and we talked about it a little bit. He focuses

1067
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,960
on efficiency and structure, where practices are shorter, high tempo, ye,

1068
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,960
keeping players fresh and urgency and focus. And I think

1069
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,960
now his players is growing up in this era, they

1070
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,800
need that short, focused, high intensity rather than long drawn out.

1071
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,239
There's so many things.

1072
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: For those law drawn out Yeah, high school and college practice,

1073
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:03,960
some of.

1074
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: Those those twenty eight period practices, I mean three it's

1075
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,440
kind of hard to get mentally, like like I just

1076
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:12,840
want to endure this practice. I don't want to position

1077
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:15,559
mastery anything. I want to make it through then period.

1078
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, keep going.

1079
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then look at his mindset. Let's let's look

1080
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:24,760
at what he's never satisfied and he's it's all about accountability.

1081
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,760
Kissed off, He's never he says like, if if you're

1082
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,960
if you look happy, that it's you know that, that's

1083
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:34,159
not complacency. Yeah, And so he really focuses on that.

1084
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,719
But we I mean, Kelly, what he's been able to

1085
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:42,039
do and obviously get developing players, they developed players within,

1086
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,400
recruited and got the right ones in and man, it's

1087
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:48,199
I mean, we could talk probably a whole show just

1088
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,199
on that what he was able to do there. What

1089
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,480
are some things you saw he did.

1090
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I think you bring up all

1091
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719
of those things that are that are very important. I mean,

1092
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,599
he was strategic about about who he acquired through James

1093
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:04,320
Madison via the portal, that's who we brought in. For

1094
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,000
the most part. He went out and was strategic in

1095
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,000
who he acquired because they fit his culture, fit his

1096
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:16,480
scheme athletically, talent wise, star ratings rise the roster per

1097
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:17,639
two or four seven sports.

1098
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: It was like it was seventy second, seventy second. But

1099
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,960
what you had was was a.

1100
00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:27,159
Speaker 3: Ton of old players that had played a ton of

1101
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,599
college football, like twenty four year old.

1102
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 4: College football players. That's what he had. He had a

1103
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,159
bunch of those guys.

1104
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,519
Speaker 3: So it begs the question about like development, football to

1105
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:42,159
me is still very much a developmental sport.

1106
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 4: You know, you look at your trajectory.

1107
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: I look at my trajectory as a football player, like

1108
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,320
we got better, Like we got better with age, right,

1109
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,360
we got better with repetition, we got better when we

1110
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,960
stayed healthy, we got bigger, faster, stronger, and things of

1111
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,559
that nature. Right, And then if you're within that same

1112
00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:00,960
scheme year in and year out, same similar scheme, same

1113
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,559
similar culture, same similar coaching staff. That like anyone that

1114
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,679
is inserted strategically into that culture, that kem like the

1115
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,760
expectation is set with so much turnover, Like you know,

1116
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,079
LSU per Brian Kelly. I don't know if you saw this,

1117
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:24,000
Brian Kelly, who's no longer the coach at LSU. Now

1118
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:27,119
he's talking about his next step. He went on to

1119
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,880
radio recently and discussed the amount of money that Lane

1120
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,960
Kiffen and LSU are purportedly spending on their roster. And

1121
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:43,719
it's upwards of forty million dollars. Okay, so that's insane.

1122
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,320
I don't know if the mercenario approach will work. I

1123
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,079
will say that Miami took a bit of a mercenario

1124
00:51:50,119 --> 00:51:53,280
approach and they got deep in the college football playoff.

1125
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: And Christobal is a.

1126
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 3: Culture guy though too, he's a hard a And so

1127
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,719
if you if you force feed the culture and and

1128
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,760
you get the right guys with your mercenario approach, you

1129
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:06,800
can win football games.

1130
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: There's no doubt.

1131
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 3: But uh, that's kind of what I look like with

1132
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:12,440
when I look at it. With Kirk Signetti and White,

1133
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,719
I mean, he was they were head and shoulders above it.

1134
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it was drawing and it wasn't close.

1135
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't Brenana Mendoza was a pretty good quarterback at Cal.

1136
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,360
He was not a first round NFL draft pick, not

1137
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,840
a Heisman Trophy winner, not at all.

1138
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: Like And so you look at what he does.

1139
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,159
Speaker 3: With these guys in their system, within his culture, within

1140
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,960
their scheme, and and he finds the right guys at

1141
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,960
the right price, and then he he molds them into

1142
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:43,239
something greater than they are.

1143
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,639
Speaker 4: The sum is greater than the like the some of

1144
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,440
its parts are greater. What's the term again or the

1145
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:51,920
old the old adage?

1146
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: Anyways, you know, I gotta get my quotes down if

1147
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,960
I'm going to try to lean into him here. But

1148
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,880
look these individuals. They they all lived where they stand,

1149
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,559
and they have an elite football team because of it.

1150
00:53:03,679 --> 00:53:06,239
I think, by you, I don't know if they'll ever

1151
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,440
be that, but I think they can do something similar.

1152
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think they can too. And one thing

1153
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,280
you keep hearing about Kurt, what he did with his

1154
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,920
program Scnetti was efficiency. You could just see who he was.

1155
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:24,199
I mean, he every practice just meticulous in his design.

1156
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,800
Who we need we're getting this player. Why did they

1157
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,719
go after Mendoza. He didn't have that successful of a

1158
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,559
career at CAL, but he identified things. So he is

1159
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:35,719
great at identifying players that he know are good but

1160
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,519
they can be great.

1161
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: His background answer to the recruiting coordinator for years really

1162
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:41,760
helps him here.

1163
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:45,079
Speaker 2: His ability to identify those that'll fit in a system.

1164
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:47,559
And he always says, I only do with things that work,

1165
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:48,920
and if they don't, we get him out. I've been

1166
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,840
doing this for forty years. I know what works. And

1167
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,159
he just buys in, gets players to buy into it,

1168
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,480
and gets the right pieces. And I'm sure there are

1169
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:58,360
a lot of players out the door. When he first

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got there, created that standard and he held them to

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it and was consistent and so man, that's that's kind

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of the blueprint. But it's hard to execute on and

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you have to have a lot come into place. But man,

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you look what he did. He wasn't spending forty million,

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I guarantee you though, And he's like, no, well, I'm

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sure they're competitive, they're paying competitively. Yeah, but man, I

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think by you can look at that and say, hey,

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we can do this.

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Speaker 3: BYU's roster, by the way, he was ranked seventieth per

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twenty four seven Sports Indiana seventy second. And that's what

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I get at the quote, as the whole is greater

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than the sum of its parts. Yeah right, and it's

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it's impactful.

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Speaker 2: That's his philosophy.

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Speaker 4: That is his philosophy.

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Speaker 3: And I think that you know, to a certain degree,

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you need guys, you need dudes, you need you know,

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wide receiver ones. Maybe to get over the hump, you

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need a true elite pass rusher or two. And you know,

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maybe to get over the hump into we talk about

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just trying to get to that Texas tech level. But

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I think as a collective of the whole needs to

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be greater than.

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Speaker 2: The s of its parts. And he developed players. They

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got better every week, they got better and better and better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about it, No doubt about it. Guys.

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