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Speaker 2: So welcome in first foremost.
Speaker 3: The architecture of the show, the one the only former
b YU rugby player for our beautiful Brigham Young University's
welcome in, Ronald the three and Man Weaver to the show.
Speaker 4: Ronnie, how you living?
Speaker 5: Happy Friday? Ready for the weekend over my thoughts.
Speaker 4: Ronnie's had a rough one.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, hey, there must be bitter, there must
be sweeten live to really enjoy, you know, the sweetish
things of live. So Ronnie, it'll be all right, man,
We'll get through this. Let's also welcome to the show,
Brett always bringing the hammer hammertime show.
Speaker 4: How that are you, buddy?
Speaker 6: I have your daily update for what's happening with the
Big Twelve court. Since we change it every day, it
has changed again today. So they've added now a white
line for the half court. They've gotten rid of the
ugly like X two lines throughout the entire court, and
now you actually have something that looks like it's made
of what. It's not, but it looks like it's made
of what now, so it looks like a regular basketball court.
So maybe the Big Twelve is like, okay, the worst
teams who play early in the tournament, they get to
play on the suckier version, and then the further you
go in the tournament, the more playable we will make
the court for you.
Speaker 4: So interesting theory from Brett Young.
Speaker 3: I think like, look, when you're an early adopter, like
Brett or Mark, you you run with things before you're prepared.
I'll give you an example. We got feed back on
the Big twelve proda. I mean it was it was
not good. The first year of the Big twelve protain
not good. Why did he go with a Big twelve protein? Well,
he could maximize like television revenue with it. You could
have sponsors to every little thing of it. You bring
the media out there. It's a big it's it's a
big circus. It's fantastic, right Like b YU had a
great thing going with their respective uh pro days, right Like,
it was fantastic. At the IPF they put on a
show for the NFL scouts to come in and it
was it was like prim prime, pristine. They executed at
the highest levels. Now like DYU wasn't monetizing that. It
was just an event for their team and their players. Right,
Brett Jomark steps into the Big twelve. Hey, you want
to be a part of our our team, you want
to be a part of our family. You're gonna do
what we say. We're gonna do this Big twelve pro day.
And it was it was do doo like it was
not good. We don't know, we don't know how accurate.
The times were quite honestly, Uh, we don't like the
organization was off. It was just not a good experience
for everybody involved. It was okay, I guess when it's
all said and down, but nowhere near what the pro
day experience was prior to, uh, this Big twelve media day.
So I think that's this whole digital board thing as well.
Initially it's due to like everyone's complaining about, like the
Louis Vaton Big twelve logos that are very distracting, not
only on TV, but when you're playing to the court slippery,
so you got to make sure there's like no.
Speaker 4: Water on it. And I think they hopefully figure that out.
Speaker 3: You didn't have a half court line, so if you're
if you're a ref, you're complaining about it's like I
don't even know where half court is, Like I don't
know if I'm in like my five seconds here, Like
what's going on?
Speaker 4: Uh? And uh?
Speaker 3: And then you I think they're going to keep the
logos of Wilson sixty six logans those are still on.
Speaker 4: The court, right. Oh, yeah, they have to keep that.
They gotta keep them. Wilson needs that, Yeah, he wants that.
Speaker 3: Wilson sixty sixty and they didn't pay for that sixty
or sorry sorry yeah, yeah, correct Phillip sixty six anyway.
Uh so, uh shout out to Brett for willing Like
I like, everyone makes mistakes in life. It's ideal to
like go forth with something and never make a mistake,
especially when it's highly visible. Most I'll tell you one
thing most people in life are are are fearful and
they don't take risks that they end up regretting. Brett Yormark,
he's wanting to take all the risks. He's like, we'll
figure it out. It's good enough, let's roll with it.
Let's welcome into the show as well tonight. He's a
risk taker, he's a businessman him salf form or b
what you create? The legendary General Cameron Jensen, my teammate,
my team captain.
Speaker 2: What's up, General, Oh? Ben rise and shout man. It's
good to be back in the saddle.
Speaker 3: It's a pleasure. It's a blessing to be in your
presence once again. You've been busy. Give us a little
update on what's been keeping you busy, you know recently.
Speaker 4: What have you been up to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been doing organizational design work. It's kind of
what I graduated in and so was out in California,
did a project out there. Now back here?
Speaker 4: Nice? What's been back in Provo or not pro no?
Speaker 2: In U you country right now?
Speaker 4: Really is that where you're at?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: The all manner of heathens and hedonism up there in
salle A County.
Speaker 4: I can take that much.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's not rubbing off on me.
Speaker 3: Don't worry, Okay, thank goodness. Yeah, I do not be
influenced by the great and spacious.
Speaker 2: But it's been great, man, it's great. The spring ball started.
Oh just gets me fired up. I love. We've only
had to wait two months and now we get a
little fix until the four months before the season. But oh,
it's been fun seeing this team the offseason, and man,
I'm so excited for what twenty twenty six will bring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me a little state of the program from
your perch, from your perspective, how are you feeling about
this Cougar football team? Kolani Shataka getting his contract extension,
the retention of players and coaches, Give me, like your
your state of the program. Cameron Jensen, the president of
BYU Football overseeing all this, it could eventually happen. But
give me your state of the program address. You know, Ben,
I always start with the culture. And when you look
at what's happened the whole Kilanie almost leaving to Penn State,
he stayed, Jay Hill leaving but still maintaining program. No
players leaving the program. We didn't have really any offensive
players leave on their own accord. And so just when
you look at that culture aspect in today where college
football is so different, where basically players need to op
in every year. Man the culture that they're building and.
Speaker 2: The players want to be here as me so excited
because when players do that and they commit, there's ownership meaning,
oh I didn't have it, it's I'm committed. I choose
to come here. I'm getting off. You don't think Bear
didn't get offers such Wala didn't have offers to leave.
These players had offers. There are people coming in this portal.
And I love how Aaron Rodrick jokes he doesn't want
to talk about players because there is you know, there's
so much of that. We kept our team. A ton
of Visa State people wanted to stay. LJ wanted to stay.
That speaks volumes. It gets me so excited because Once
that's culture's there, you can really build upon it. And
so looking at it, Ben, look we made it to
the conference championship. We have core, the core players coming
back and key positions. Bear obviously his developments vital this offseason.
Our defense, I expect them to get better even with
losing players like Jack Kelly, but we've got our core back.
I want to see this team take that next step.
We're gonna get against Texas Tech again, and what are
we gonna do differently? A big key state of the
program is our skill positions wide receiver. Everybody's talking about those.
We've got a lot of young bodies in there. We're
going to talk about some who we like later in
the show. But who's going to fill those gaps to
where our offense can be a true dual threat where
Bears not only completing the short to mid rage one,
it's twenty to twenty five yard downfield and what receivers
are going to make those plays? And so a lot
to look at the spring all. I'm excited if you
can't tell, but the state of the program, I'm bullish
on it. I love what Kilanie's done. I love the culture,
the players, the leadership, coming back. There's a lot that
has me excited. But there's a lot of things we
need to get.
Speaker 3: Done, no doubt, there's got to be a sense of urgency.
You can't get complation. Now Kilanie's coined the phrase stay humble,
stay hungry. It's all about continuing to put in the
lonely work and putting in the work, you know, and
and getting in their rime strength and conditioning, nutrition, individual
skill development. But the foundation culturally, the foundation schematically is there, man,
And and you know, like incremental growth right like when
we're talking about scalable growth as a you know in
business and in sport, the continuity of chemistry culture scheme.
How imperative is that to have kind of this sequential
macro growth within our program, even marginal growth, especially when
you are winning eleven games, even micro growth is could
get you over the edge to beat a team like
Texas Tech or the high level teams that are in
the COUL Football playoffs.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so much, Ben, And look, we had a
quarterback freshman last year come in not even during spring ball,
he didn't have spring ball. He came in and you know,
it's huge to where he knows the system the defense
knows the system. Obviously K Pop is going to do
a few things here or there, but it's the same system. Yeah,
the players have learned it. They know it, so you
can work on I'm going to use a Bronco term here,
position mastery. But it's a real thing when you're not
having to learn a new scheme in the offseason. So
that this upcoming Fall game is the first game. In
this game, you've already played, you have film on it,
all these things, it's a huge step ahead. Offense, Bear's
not learning a new system, he's just learning on mastering
the system right there. That's huge. And then you have
the players the key leadership. That's what I want to
see developed Bear to take that leadership role and really
progress in that role, holding guys accountable so there is
no drop off. You've got to have those guys on
the team that are going to push, that are going
to push, They're going to call people out when they're
not doing what they're supposed to. They're going to get
them in the film room. And so that's what I
really want to see in his development, and especially he
needs to spend a lot of time with those receivers,
building that chemistry. He has it. He has it all spring,
he'll have it all tell the season. I want to
see that develop because it's again it's the scheme's there,
we know it. It's those little things, the nuances. Are
we going to get those fade routes to wear against
Texas Tech? We complete a few of those totally changes
the game. So that's done right now that work. I
want to see that chemistry and how these we got
some freshmen that are going to need to play ben
running back and wide receiver, so I want to see
them develop this spring and throughout the offseason.
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Electric UTAH dot Com. Cameron, you're one of the best.
You're one of the best defensive players in BA football history.
You're one of the best linebackers in BYU football history.
I think in many ways at the in the inception
of like the the glory days of b y u Uh,
we were QBU in many ways in shapes and forms,
right Virgil Carter, and then you had Gifford Nielsen and
Mark Wilson and Jim McMahon and Steve Young and Ty
Deptmer and John Wallas and you just keep going, going
to Steve sarkes In et cetera.
Speaker 4: All these guys coming in.
Speaker 3: Then you have the modern era stepping up and Brandon
doman And and John Beck and Max Hall, and then
Taysom Hill, Zach Wilson, Jenn Hall, Keaton Slovis is in
the NFL still and now you have Bear Bachmeer.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's really cool to see end the look.
Speaker 3: You know, Jake retslaw Uh is a good quarterback too,
and he had he has he had his two years
and he could have had a third year. It's unfortunate
what happened, but it is what it is. But a
lot of great quarterback play. I still feel like in
the modern era, b YU is lb U.
Speaker 2: I'll take it right right. I mean, look at all
that whatever position you say that the call is that,
you know, I.
Speaker 3: Mean look at I mean, look at the NFL, Cale
Van Noy and Fred Warner. I mean you play in
the league, Ryan David, go down the line of linebackers
Alani Fua, Spencer Hadley like it's it's.
Speaker 4: L b U in the modern era.
Speaker 3: Here you're looking at obviously Jack Kelly who just killed
it at the combine, Isaiah last years there.
Speaker 2: Had a great year. It got banged up a little bit, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, yeah, and that happens, right, but uh
so many great linebackers have.
Speaker 4: Come through b YU.
Speaker 3: And you go even you know, further back with the
freight train Robert Morris and shame you or Brook.
Speaker 4: And you can make an argument that in.
Speaker 2: The left shame your Brook was my guy that poster
all growing up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just fantastic football player.
Speaker 3: So I guess give me your opinion of the current linebackers,
What you like about him, what stands out about him
to you? How this can continue to be lbu there
in provo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna miss miss Jack Kelly. I loved watching
him play four. I know he just had that closing speed.
You saw it on a lot of the sacks he got,
especially the Texas Tech game, that closing speed and he
was just stalwart in there and I think really held
that defense together from his leadership and his presence. So
he'll definitely be missed. But uluave coming from cal I
haven't seen much of him obviously, but you hear great
things and he start I understand he's first on the
depth chart coming in right there says a lot. That
means he's already earned the respect from his team, his teammates,
because that's a that's an important position. I'm a little biased,
but I like what I hear from him, and I
think he'll be a great you know again, continuing.
Speaker 3: One of the best linebackers of the transfer portal Robo
the three man, Weaver said, this is maybe the best.
I can't I don't want to misquote you here, Ronnie,
but I think you said something the effective like this
may be the best transfer portal acquisition that we've had
in this modern era.
Speaker 4: It was that accurate, Ronnie, I think, yes.
Speaker 5: I said it's not Jack Kelly.
Speaker 8: Sorry, linebacker Jack the number one linebacker out of the
transfer portal is the best get out of the transfer
portal and BYU history arguably. I mean, you don't get
that normally, but this day and age you do. So
yeah you quote it, Dirrect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So so I'm right there with you. Okay,
it's a great player, als acc player. He's He's done
it at a very high level. We expect him to
do at a high level here at b YU.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for him. And then you look at depth,
you look at what other players we have. Isaiah Glasker
obviously he's out not playing right now, but we have
enough film on him what he does. I want to
see him get a little more, a little thicker, I think,
you know, put on a little more muscle mass this year.
But like what he obviously the president he had, he's
a great player, Sarah. And then you look at these
additions Clifton from Kansas State, excited to see him, feeling
and just the depth of this linebacker. Kafusi so so
I'd like this. I love the depth that we're seeing
and just this unit, the experience. We also have Glasger
Sira Ulavie who've played We have some great I mean
they've played a lot of football. Yeah, and so I'm
really excited about that the experience sprinkled in with some
of these new guys. I love the experience and depth
and leadership from these guys. Man, that's a that's a
killer starting crew right there.
Speaker 3: Ye Isaiah Glasker, Askofusi, Miles Holli has gotten some love,
Michae Kafusi, Sarah Eframasciata Berkeley, Alfrey Pearson, Watson owen Borg,
Jake Clifton, Kansas State transfer, Blake Lowe, Gauge Tanner, Daniel
tamoy Peyu is Eastern Washington transfer. He's the brother of
Nucy tamoy Peu. And then you got kid Uluwabe. You
could also include possibly in that group these outside edge guys.
You know, Nucy talmoy Peyo, Yeah, is kind of a
hybrid Linebacker's somewhere than Jack Kelly, who can He can
probably line up in a two point and he he'd
probably be a five tech if you really needed.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to see that specifically, and when
you look at our defense, our ability to get to
the quarterback with a four man rush and we could
use a linebacker in there or that kind of hybrid player,
those are great. It's our ability if we can get
to the quarterback and a four man rush similar to
what Texas Tech was able to do. Again, I'm looking
at Texas Tech's kind of a standard right now in
the conference. What did they do that where we're not.
One of those things was their ability to get to
the quarterback. Obviously they have guys going high in the
draft this year, but you know just that that is
what that does for your defense, and especially the one
we run with a lot of man concepts. If we
can do that, that changes the whole We can be
more aggressive. That opens up so much what k pop
can do where we don't have to blitz four or
five or five or six so man that if we
can develop one of those going into next year where
we have that true threat where team's not it's not
just threat being teams have to schematically change what they're doing,
whether that's a chip block or you know we're going
to overload here, whatever that is if we can have
that presence and develop that pass rusher man, I love
this defense can do because this defense is already good. Yeah,
I'm like, if we could add that component a pass rusher,
whether from the linebacker hybrid man.
Speaker 3: K Pop told us last year that they're looking to quit.
They're looking to obtain a thirty sack total every season.
That's now last year they they they got to that thirty.
Speaker 4: They got thirty.
Speaker 3: They were a little bit slow on the on the
front end, but on the back end they kept up.
Speaker 4: They really accelerated and that that put them at like
forty seventh I think, or so like in the you know,
in the.
Speaker 3: Top almost third of of college football with thirty secs.
Speaker 4: But there were some havoc rate too. There was pressures.
Speaker 2: It's and what what we what we can do to
change the scheme with the offense. They don't want to do,
but they have to do. And so, like you said, Rek,
havoc I think is something that's extremely important outside of
just the stacks sacked statistics. But I like that thirty
we got thirty last year. If we do thirty again, yeah.
Speaker 3: And so it's a combo of your linebackers and defensive linemen.
And you know, I was chatting with a few people
about like thirty front versus forty front like traditionally.
Speaker 4: The reason why I bring up.
Speaker 3: To the l b U, I just I don't know if
b YU, I don't know if b YU will ever
be a traditional four down front like you saw versus
Text step because I just don't know if we have
the dogs, like the true dogs.
Speaker 4: That it takes, like.
Speaker 2: To that position. It's somebody that can play that end
position that can not only stop the run and be
an elite pass rusher. Like it's just I'm just saying that.
Speaker 3: It's like saying like, oh, we need lockdown corners at
b YU.
Speaker 4: All all the time.
Speaker 2: Is similar.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I we you don't have four lockdown
corners all the time at b YU. You don't always
have eight dogs along that defense or because you typically
need it too deep, right, What you do have traditionally though,
is like eight really good.
Speaker 2: That's what I would say, get really good. That position
is so hard to recruit for.
Speaker 4: Everyone struggles with it.
Speaker 2: Everyone does.
Speaker 4: And the reason why Text was is because they got
that oil.
Speaker 2: Money, they got that black gold, they paid money.
Speaker 3: They got that black gold and they allocated it judiciously, And.
Speaker 2: You're exactly right. It's really hard. But we have linebackers
that can do that, that can disrupt if you put
them in the right situation. So I like what you're saying.
Maybe we don't get that true defensive end in a
just normal sense, but we can use those linebackers creatively
to do the same thing, disrupt and cause offenses to
scheme for it.
Speaker 3: So, from a pass rush standpoint, are there any players
that you're most intrigued by to become kind of like
your premier pass rushers on this roster between the defensive
line and linebacking units. I can go through a few
of the names that are intriguing to me. Body Schoonover
I think is a really nice prospect. He's coming into
his senior year as a redshirt senior Hunter. Claig Tausi,
Leia Khanna. You have new Si Tompeu.
Speaker 4: I really like him a lot.
Speaker 2: He's probably one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeahucy Noose has got the juice, as they say,
a couple of newcomers as Young Bucks and Kendall wall
and Braxton Lindsey Adney Reid has Uh has been heralded
as a potential guy down the line that could be
really good. But do you have like your defensive tackles
that are pretty good in their one on ones? Villi
Ambi Puja anc Percel keavas Uluvaifantully justin Kirkland Uh and uh,
I mean there's uh, there's some good guys there. There's
no doubt good good football players.
Speaker 4: Uh. In that defensive front.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ton of You gotta love what he's done and
the fact he's stuck around.
Speaker 4: He's the best pass rush though on this.
Speaker 2: No, it's hard to think of one coming from the
nose or tackle position. But man, there's so many of ones.
Speaker 3: If we watched one on ones, like you know what
I mean, like who's gonna win like almost all of
their one on ones because you know, like the the
the As a so as a defensive back, you're in
one on ones, you're at a competitive disadvantage and the
wide receivers should should.
Speaker 4: Beat you more often than not because he's got anywhere
to go.
Speaker 3: As an offensive lineman, you're kind of on the defense there,
so like you're at a competitive advantage, so you're you're
kind of supposed to win to a degree more often
than you lose when you're a defensive lineman going against
an offensive lineman in those one on ones. So who's
the guy that you look at this like list of
linebackers and defensive lineman and they're winning the majority of
their one on ones.
Speaker 2: Do you think, Oh, yeah, i'd have to go uluab
what I Okay, Yeah, I've what I've heard about him
at practice. Yeah, I think I want to see what
they're going to do in using him and his talents,
what he can do in those one on one situations
like they did with I think it's a lot of
spy what we did with Jack Kelly, and then also
using that spy as a late rusher, which I think
we did and that's where he got a lot of
his sacks. So I think they'll use him similarly in
that position, and I think he'll do really well out it.
I like how we spied it up. We spied it
up and then allowed him to rush and contain the quarterback.
So I think we'll do a lot of that with him,
and I think he's going to get a lot of
sacks from that.
Speaker 3: We'll talk a little bit more about K pop's philosophies.
Would you say that a K Pop is going to
be an aggressive play caller that wants to wreak some
havoc in the backfield.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think he's going to work
with Colonie and Gary Anderson on that. I look at
past performance, it's the best predictor of future. He'd love
to be aggressive on special teams. Yeahah, and if it
was there, and he said and like I said, well,
Kelly's going to be He wants to win the game.
He's not worrying about losing it, and so if he
thinks it's there, but he's also going to be smart.
I think he's going to be a mix. He'll be
aggressive at times, you'll see a good balance.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be over aggressive. Like we played
in with coach Menenhall, we were blitzing what seventy percent
so much. I think it's going to be well balanced
and situational critical based upon that. So I think he's
going to call he's going to put our players in
the best position. But I know he's he's going to
be holding back that wanting to be aggressive. He was
under Bronco for a long time. Yeah, there was aggressiveness,
but I think he's going to be a little more conservative.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because like I think at b Yu, we
you know, when we played with K Pop, it was
uh yeah, yeah, we we we did more zone pressures.
We we did implement some man uh but he was
a lot of zone pressure, so five and every once
in a while maybe a six man pressure, et cetera,
but a lot of zone blitzes. When they got to Virginia,
I think they went a little bit more aggressive and
then you know, from there, uh, you've had kind of
a i'd say a pretty you know, balanced approach over
the last few years with Jay Hill as the defensive coordinator.
I wouldn't say you'd run a ton of man blitzes,
but they they they're calculated zone pressures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they calculated zone pressures. And I think you'll it'll
be similar to what we done.
Speaker 3: Simulated blitzes too, in conjunction with that, so they'll do
a simulated blitz where they they're showing pressure and then
they drop into coverage, drop a drop seven, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna look at thirty and what he
needs to do to get to thirty and hopefully that's
with four with it occasional. That's five here spying the
quarterback with Labby like they did with Jack Kelly last year.
So if he starts having to brief five or six
to get to that thirty, I think he will. I
think the number is going to be thirty. But what
do we need to do to get there? And so
I think this team we can get a lot of
pressures with four five man blitzes still and enrich at thirty.
We have the talent to do that.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Do we have an update on the b YU women's
basketball game that ended up falling to TCU Horned Frogs.
Speaker 4: Was it a big loss? Uh? I think I think
it was sixty.
Speaker 2: TCU.
Speaker 4: Yeah is a tough one. I mean, he's us a
very great run.
Speaker 3: I hope I pray fingers crossed they can get into
the NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 4: It doesn't look it doesn't.
Speaker 5: Say the first team out, then, yeah.
Speaker 4: It doesn't look good. It doesn't look good that they're.
Speaker 2: The first team out. It seems like whenever BYU's out,
they're like the first team out.
Speaker 3: I will say this, even though by basketball has had
a rough season, I would I'd rather have kind of
like this, like we didn't meet expectations, but we're still
a seven seed. Then being on the bubble, like I
can't tell you how often the West Coast I was.
Speaker 4: Like, we're one of the first teams out. We're on
the bubble again, we're gonna be in a playing game
or you know we're gonna be out.
Speaker 3: I mean that was a rough go of it during
the West Coast Conference when we were always a bubble team.
Speaker 2: Was right, I'll take it. Then that's a great way
I'll take Oh, we're settling for a seventh seed, hopefully
we beat Let's keep that mentality. So yeah, that's what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying is I am grateful.
Speaker 3: I have an attitude of gratitude, Like, hey, it's cold
out there, you know, Uh, there's a lot of snow.
Uh it's uh, you know thing thing things. You know,
you can get pretty sticky out there, but we needed
the moisture.
Speaker 4: I'm grateful. I'm grateful.
Speaker 3: Gotta have an attitude of gratitude here on a on
a Friday edition of Cougar Sports, no doubt about it.
Hanging out with Cameron Jensen Bright I was bringing the
hammer and Ronald the three man weaver. We've been talking
Camp killiney twenty twenty six. Uh and BYU football. It's
it's been great. It's been grand. It continues to get
more wonderful. As we break this Cougar football team down.
We uh, you know, I feel like we went into
the state of the program.
Speaker 4: Right b Yu.
Speaker 3: Has gone now in a powerful conference, eleven and two
and twelve and two solid bowl games Alamo Bile, you
get an eight million dollars payout right fantastic. You beat
Dion in Prime and Shador and Travis Hunter. That was
a tremendous way to end the season. A little exclamation point.
Your only two losses this last year tex attack. I
know it hurt to not be competitive in those games. Ye,
it really it did hurt Cougarnation because you see the
the the gap between elite and great, and you're like,
how do we get to elite?
Speaker 4: So well, I'm gonna ask you that.
Speaker 3: But you finish off the season with once again a
top twenty five win in the Pop Tards Bowl.
Speaker 2: That was a spectacle. Man, it's awesome. It's awesome.
Speaker 4: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Like like you look at BYU football year over year,
and it's a rarity to get a bowl win versus
a top twenty five football team. It's so rare to
be able to get to a bowl game and win
that bowl game versus a double digit win G six team.
So if you're going to get like a ten win
G six team, that's tough. Or or go up against
a P four team that's ranked in the top twenty five.
And Bo, he's done it now in consecutive years, and
that's that bodes well for Brigham, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I saw stat like in this new college
football Playoff era by US record, it's what fourth or
fifth in all of college football yep, And so gosh,
I love where we're at. I mean, it's a great
a great time to be a Cougar fan.
Speaker 4: No doubt about it.
Speaker 2: But there is it keeps us humble, Like you said,
to see how far we were away from Texas Tech
not only once, yeah, twice, and I'm not seeing improvement
even during the season, so that it keeps us humble
for that. But when you look back, you got to see, Wow,
look at what we've accomplished. How do we close that gap?
Speaker 4: No doubt about it. How do we close that guy gap?
Speaker 2: I think I thought a lot about it, closed the.
Speaker 3: Gap because it felt like that by you texted both
those guys were like, we're out matched. Yeah, you know
we're outmatched, right yeah, And like Ronald just whisper like
black Gold. But like, I don't, I don't know if
that is the difference, Like I don't want to believe
that that's ultimately.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think. I think that does play somewhat
of a role. But here's what I would say when
I look at those games, was we had a freshman
quarterback who is playing as good as a season as
a true freshman could. But he's still a true freshman.
We weren't a threat over twenty yards. We weren't throwing
the ball consistently or well, or our players weren't making
the plays in those So I remember the Text Tech
game there were a couple one on ones on the
sideline with Chase Roberts and we didn't complete them. We
need to complete those. We need to stretch the stretch
the ball down the field and have playmakers. So I'm
looking at this wide receiver room. These young guys been
We have Jojo returning the only one twenty five catches.
That's what that's the experience we have in this room.
Kingston's gone, Chase is gone, Carson Ryan's gone. But we
have guys that are gonna fill Jojo. Who are these
true freshmens we talked about Legend Glasker, who I'm excited
about coming in. Is we've got to have skilled positions
that make plays. Because we're gonna have a running back
quoted top running back coming back next year. Our offensive
line will fill in, We've got returners coming back. We'll
run the ball, but what's our ability to throw the ball?
And so how we close this gap in is Bear's progression.
You're one a year or two, arm strength and his
ability to stretch the field and be consecutive down the
field and our receivers making plays. That right there will
be the biggest biggest thing for us is that ability
and our growth during this offseason to create a culture
and see that translate on the field. To me, that's it.
It's our skill players making plays and Bear's ability to
stretch the ball.
Speaker 4: Love that breakdown. I know, Ronald, you want to chime
in on a little something something What you got for me?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think is I just I've looked at you know, Ben,
I ask a lot of questions and good to get
you and cams thoughts.
Speaker 5: I think also as a look at Kylie Casper coming in,
you know.
Speaker 8: The receiver group that they have, you know, I look
at the poola kid, you know, Legend Glask, A lot
of potential in this room. Right, You're gonna need a
guy like Keeling Mirre. And I watched Keelan all of
the college football playoffs and kept with all the BAU
guys that left because you know, I hate to see
them go. And I just watched Keelan's impact and I
was like, yeah, Ba, you needs that guy. And it
doesn't have to be the six to sixth guy.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be the possession guy.
Speaker 2: Could be that guy.
Speaker 8: It could be Terrence certain They need the guy that
when the defense when they go to get there, when
they go to scheme it, and Cam's the defensive guy,
right and you were two, Ben, that guy has a
problem and if we need to mark him every single play,
it's like AJ and basketball and no, I'm going basketball.
Speaker 5: He's a problem.
Speaker 8: He's on the scout and report which receiver in his
room is really on the scout and report none?
Speaker 5: Really because they have to go prove it.
Speaker 8: But I think BA needs a guy that can push
the ball vertically fifteen twenty twenty five yards every play
where the defense like if this guy gets over us.
Speaker 5: And they throw it over our head, we fear that person.
Speaker 8: They need get that guy every year out of the
transfer portal bin or they need to go recruit him
hard and keep him at BYU. I think that's gonna
be a key because when I look at people like
Texas Tech, they have that guy. When I look at
the other big other SEC schools, big ten schools, they
have that vertical threat and BAU.
Speaker 5: Doesn't have that yet.
Speaker 8: They have potential, but they haven't had a guy where
if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm looking at the roster like, yeah,
I don't really scare you and I'm not worried about
you running twenty yards of them I had. But Keelin
was that guy, and I think that's what I just
I recognize of the going into the off season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think we need good vertical vertical threats.
I do think we had vertical threats last year. I
think Cody Hagen can be a vertical threat. I think
Parker Kingston the slot is a vertical threat. Like I
My thing is like I don't know. I think it's
more predicated off of like bear Bachmeyer's arm strength than
it is like the like our guys that that can run.
I think we have guys that can run. Legen Legend
can run. Cody can still run. Jojo too. I mean, look,
do you remember that like play action post from Jake
ritz Off like early and not this last season, but
the year prior at home at Lavelle Edwards Stadium and
he was like five yards away, Like Jojo can run too,
Like he can get behind guys like I.
Speaker 4: Now, Kielan is different, you know, Kielan is big.
Speaker 3: He's strong and fast, so he can absorb contact and
break through like hand fighting and things of that nature.
And we saw how how proliftic he could be uh
In in uh In in the College Football Playoff and
uh in the ACC this last year.
Speaker 4: He was fantastic.
Speaker 3: But I really do believe it's predicated on Bear Bachmeyer
more than it is like the guys that are in
our wide receiver room right now. I believe that, And
like I just I want to see if you want
vertical throws with trajectory, with loft that guys can run
under him. That that that that guys can run under.
Bear's the one that needs to put in that work.
And then you got to scheme it out to where
he can he can get into a throw. Because he
doesn't have Zach Wilson's arm, he doesn't have John Beck's arm.
His arm is maybe more akin to a Max Hall.
Max Hall was a tremendous quarterback and a phenomenal intermediate thrower.
He was a really good intermediate thrower. Now he could
he could loft it up there, but he did not
have the arm stakes of John nor Zach. I do
see Jaron Jaren had a better arm than than than Max,
but Max Max had a really nice quick release similar
to Bear. And I know they're different players as runners,
but but as throwers, I think I see a lot
of similarities in their shorts and intermediate passing. And Max
developed more of a deep ball as he put on
more weight in his career and good weight, muscle weight
rather than fat.
Speaker 4: And so that's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: I just I would love to see Bear put on
some lean muscle mass and and hopefully create a little
bit of elasticity of his core and and create more
rotational torque and more velocity his football.
Speaker 4: And if you do that and you have a Keelan
Marion type, I don't know if we do we have
a Quelan Marion type. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't think we.
Speaker 3: I don't think we have a true wide receiver one.
But we got some good guys. We got some good
football players, There's no doubt about it. And maybe Kyler
Casper is gonna be finally healthy in his career and
can be really good.
Speaker 2: Too, you know. And again Ben, as my defensive mindset,
I look at BYU, how would I scheme against him? Obviously,
every team is gonna say start with stop LG in
the run. That's what they're gonna do. Whatever that team
needs to do is how do we stop their run?
And so we're gonna have shots down the field. And
if we can develop that, if Bear can get some
more orange streak, make some of those throws, and we
can have players make plays not only the speed but
the ability to go up and get the ball and
help their quarterback out. Like in Texas Tech, we didn't
have any really receivers help Bear out. You know, Jojo
dropped a ball on a critical third down and the
Chase Roberts fades. They weren't completed those things. So if
we have that component with our running game, yeah, oh,
if we can complete some of those, that's deadly. So
that's the one thing Bear improving and receivers making plays.
If we have that with our already RB one that
we have, and I like our running backs that are
also developing behind him, man, I love that. And then
with our defense, oh man, it gets me excited. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know one thing that we're not really accounting for
right now. K Pop is going over to the defensive
side of the ball. Justin Enna is taking over the
special teams now He's not coaching a position group. He
is allocating all of his bandwidth, all of a strategic
competitive mindset, to the special team's room. And so I'm wondering, Okay,
if I'm gonna have questions about this team, I may
have questions about Okay, how does the special team seen it?
Speaker 2: Look? This next year?
Speaker 4: You lost Will Farron, all time great kicker, and so
your place kicking? What's going on there?
Speaker 3: Sam Vander also is graduated, So you're replacing a punter
and a kicker, and you have a new coach in
the special teams room and a new kick returner punter,
And yeah, I mean well, yeah, I think so yeah
because Parker, yeah, Parker punt returner.
Speaker 4: And I think you have your kick returner.
Speaker 3: Maybe returner yea, I said kicker, I meant punt return Yeah,
and your punt return's gone.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you could have a drop off. Like if
I have fear in my heart.
Speaker 3: Which I don't have much faith, but if there was
an inkling of fear creeping into my heart and doubt
in my mind, I'd be like, Well, if I'm a
betting man, I may say there could be a drop
off in special teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if uh Enna is as aggressive as papinga.
You know, with that, I love the aggressiveness of being
a but you know, I think having a full coach
and Justin in is a great coach, fully focused.
Speaker 3: And he's been a coordinator before, he's been a special
teams coordinator decordinator before as well.
Speaker 2: I know they've got you know, interns that help was
I mean, they've got a lot of resources. They're they're
helping with it. But no, I I I think losing
the kicker is all replacing them with the experience and
the punt returner in Kingston, I think is a big
Oh is gonna is gonna hurt. But uh yeah, we'll see.
That's definitely a good point.
Speaker 3: We need to We may need to get muse Bingham
on Ronnie next week to discuss this. I just started
thinking about, like, okay, what do I doubt? Where's the
fear in my heart? And there's there's two places it's okay,
the secondary coaching staff, how they keep this this secondary
moving in the right direction because you've got three new coaches,
And then I would say the special teams in it
because you lose so much personnel and you have a
new coach. Yeah, that's the that's the the combo there.
And like over the last three years, the special team
genate has been arguably the best unit on the football
team per ESPNSP plus.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I really like our leadership too. Coming back, then,
how we close this gap, you know and key positions
bear a full another year under him. What we're going
to see from him? Improvement I hope is is is
going to be that you know, like we said, arm
strength in this ability we've got are the best running
back in the nation coming back, you know, a ton
of visa coming back on the defensive line ula and
then such a wall. I mean, all these guys that
have played uh critical, critical amounts of plays and their
leadership I think is vital coming back.
Speaker 4: Let's take a break here. I want to come back.
I want to talk about like.
Speaker 3: College football as a whole, but in particular what you
saw from Indiana, because if you're going to try to replicate.
Speaker 4: With what anyone's doing right now, you're.
Speaker 2: Like what the season they put together? Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's crazy because you look at like their
team as a whole, recruiting wise, development wise, they're kind
of a a great model for you know, the position
mastery is about health, like like conserving, like they they practice,
they practice hard, but they they don't I think they
do more like walk throughs and they they're not banging
heads all the time, so like there's like a wear
and tear element, but they're still repping out a ton
of team, a ton of individual work, technique, work, schematic,
position mastery. Components of it. Uh, strength and addition is
a big portion of it. I don't know if you've
read up on Kurty any, but I want to talk
to you about that. And you know how far away
is BYU from you know, doing something like Kirk Signetti's building,
because I do think there are some similarities with you know,
what what BYU can do and what Indiana has done.
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get into it here, uh Kirk Signetti and Indiana. What
they were able to accomplish is probably the most impressive
thing in college football history. What we just experienced last
year was unprecedented on.
Speaker 2: So many levels, so many levels.
Speaker 3: And some people will say, well, it has everything to
do with like transfer portal and nil. I'm like, no,
it has more to do with coaching and culture than
it does transferportal and nil, I think, but give me
your perspective on this, what happened?
Speaker 4: How did this happen? And uh, is BYU capable.
Speaker 3: Of eventually, you know, creating something akin to what Indiana
was able to accomplish and be at the top of
the food chain in college football?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Ben, when you look at Indiana, look
where they were four or five years ago. I mean,
they weren't winning any games.
Speaker 3: You know, one of the the worst. They're like, they
may be the worst. They're the worst power four team,
power five team in college football history.
Speaker 2: Let's just look at that as a stat So what happened?
You know, what are the things he did? And it's
it's a phenomenal story. And just to name a few,
I look at what did he do differently than other
teams or what they were doing before? At Indiana obviously
he came in and there were a couple of things.
Was what he I know, he emphasized production over like
how many stars they had. For the transfer portal, they
looked at is this player producing? And all they're recruiting
they would say, does this player produce or not? We're
going to play players that produce and aren't over the potential,
just have the potential. I know, that was a big thing,
and we talked about it a little bit. He focuses
on efficiency and structure, where practices are shorter, high tempo, ye,
keeping players fresh and urgency and focus. And I think
now his players is growing up in this era, they
need that short, focused, high intensity rather than long drawn out.
There's so many things.
Speaker 3: For those law drawn out Yeah, high school and college practice,
some of.
Speaker 2: Those those twenty eight period practices, I mean three it's
kind of hard to get mentally, like like I just
want to endure this practice. I don't want to position
mastery anything. I want to make it through then period.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then look at his mindset. Let's let's look
at what he's never satisfied and he's it's all about accountability.
Kissed off, He's never he says like, if if you're
if you look happy, that it's you know that, that's
not complacency. Yeah, And so he really focuses on that.
But we I mean, Kelly, what he's been able to
do and obviously get developing players, they developed players within,
recruited and got the right ones in and man, it's
I mean, we could talk probably a whole show just
on that what he was able to do there. What
are some things you saw he did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I think you bring up all
of those things that are that are very important. I mean,
he was strategic about about who he acquired through James
Madison via the portal, that's who we brought in. For
the most part. He went out and was strategic in
who he acquired because they fit his culture, fit his
scheme athletically, talent wise, star ratings rise the roster per
two or four seven sports.
Speaker 4: It was like it was seventy second, seventy second. But
what you had was was a.
Speaker 3: Ton of old players that had played a ton of
college football, like twenty four year old.
Speaker 4: College football players. That's what he had. He had a
bunch of those guys.
Speaker 3: So it begs the question about like development, football to
me is still very much a developmental sport.
Speaker 4: You know, you look at your trajectory.
Speaker 3: I look at my trajectory as a football player, like
we got better, Like we got better with age, right,
we got better with repetition, we got better when we
stayed healthy, we got bigger, faster, stronger, and things of
that nature. Right, And then if you're within that same
scheme year in and year out, same similar scheme, same
similar culture, same similar coaching staff. That like anyone that
is inserted strategically into that culture, that kem like the
expectation is set with so much turnover, Like you know,
LSU per Brian Kelly. I don't know if you saw this,
Brian Kelly, who's no longer the coach at LSU. Now
he's talking about his next step. He went on to
radio recently and discussed the amount of money that Lane
Kiffen and LSU are purportedly spending on their roster. And
it's upwards of forty million dollars. Okay, so that's insane.
I don't know if the mercenario approach will work. I
will say that Miami took a bit of a mercenario
approach and they got deep in the college football playoff.
Speaker 4: And Christobal is a.
Speaker 3: Culture guy though too, he's a hard a And so
if you if you force feed the culture and and
you get the right guys with your mercenario approach, you
can win football games.
Speaker 4: There's no doubt.
Speaker 3: But uh, that's kind of what I look like with
when I look at it. With Kirk Signetti and White,
I mean, he was they were head and shoulders above it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was drawing and it wasn't close.
Speaker 3: It wasn't Brenana Mendoza was a pretty good quarterback at Cal.
He was not a first round NFL draft pick, not
a Heisman Trophy winner, not at all.
Speaker 4: Like And so you look at what he does.
Speaker 3: With these guys in their system, within his culture, within
their scheme, and and he finds the right guys at
the right price, and then he he molds them into
something greater than they are.
Speaker 4: The sum is greater than the like the some of
its parts are greater. What's the term again or the
old the old adage?
Speaker 3: Anyways, you know, I gotta get my quotes down if
I'm going to try to lean into him here. But
look these individuals. They they all lived where they stand,
and they have an elite football team because of it.
I think, by you, I don't know if they'll ever
be that, but I think they can do something similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think they can too. And one thing
you keep hearing about Kurt, what he did with his
program Scnetti was efficiency. You could just see who he was.
I mean, he every practice just meticulous in his design.
Who we need we're getting this player. Why did they
go after Mendoza. He didn't have that successful of a
career at CAL, but he identified things. So he is
great at identifying players that he know are good but
they can be great.
Speaker 3: His background answer to the recruiting coordinator for years really
helps him here.
Speaker 2: His ability to identify those that'll fit in a system.
And he always says, I only do with things that work,
and if they don't, we get him out. I've been
doing this for forty years. I know what works. And
he just buys in, gets players to buy into it,
and gets the right pieces. And I'm sure there are
a lot of players out the door. When he first
got there, created that standard and he held them to
it and was consistent and so man, that's that's kind
of the blueprint. But it's hard to execute on and
you have to have a lot come into place. But man,
you look what he did. He wasn't spending forty million,
I guarantee you though, And he's like, no, well, I'm
sure they're competitive, they're paying competitively. Yeah, but man, I
think by you can look at that and say, hey,
we can do this.
Speaker 3: BYU's roster, by the way, he was ranked seventieth per
twenty four seven Sports Indiana seventy second. And that's what
I get at the quote, as the whole is greater
than the sum of its parts. Yeah right, and it's
it's impactful.
Speaker 2: That's his philosophy.
Speaker 4: That is his philosophy.
Speaker 3: And I think that you know, to a certain degree,
you need guys, you need dudes, you need you know,
wide receiver ones. Maybe to get over the hump, you
need a true elite pass rusher or two. And you know,
maybe to get over the hump into we talk about
just trying to get to that Texas tech level. But
I think as a collective of the whole needs to
be greater than.
Speaker 2: The s of its parts. And he developed players. They
got better every week, they got better and better and better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about it, No doubt about it. Guys.
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