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Speaker 1: The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there, Oh

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dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect

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the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds, and grow,

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not what we want. If you are looking for an

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echo chamber, viewer and listener discretion, these.

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Speaker 2: Aged you talk about extreme, what is happening and what

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Speaker 3: Hold out your glass because we're about to fill it.

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Speaker 1: Up torches high, you know, look at it from a

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different perspective, different perspective, different.

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Speaker 4: Okat what is going on all my local guys and gals,

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and we are not going to forget about those long

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distance fausies through.

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Speaker 3: We're back.

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Speaker 5: I'm cue an' you gotta have theme there it is.

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Speaker 3: Eh.

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Speaker 5: It's good to see you fellas well.

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting on your We're back, We're back.

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Speaker 5: Listen, buddy, I'm losing it. I think I think your voice.

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I think my voice has finally stopped cracking. I think

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I've I've got my man voice now.

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Speaker 3: He finally made it through puberty.

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Speaker 5: Made it through. I'm a real boy.

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Speaker 3: That was a long time son.

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Speaker 5: Listen, buddy. We we all age differently. It is what

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it is, but yeah, it is. It is good to

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see you guys. But it is crazy to think about

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why we're talking tonight when you really think about it

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and go back to think that this is the end

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of our third season, the end of the road. That

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is crazy to think about it is it is the

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end of our third season, but it's still just the beginning.

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I think we're learning a lot on the way. I mean,

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this has turned into so much more than the Dig

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and what spawned off this, you know, with with the

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Prometheus Lens with Ben has been starting to show that's

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more about fixing jeeps and and and things of that nature,

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but still very family friendly, muddy piss and garage. Get

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excited for that. A couple of other friends had started

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the Vessels podcast after we started the Dig, uh you know,

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Liz and Keisha and Leslie started the Mustard Seed podcast.

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step of faith when we felt God was pushing this

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in a direction and we started to dig. This is

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back three years ago, and to think about that we're

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here right now and the fact that there's no there's

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we we're just gonna keep growing. We're gonna keep doing

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what we're supposed to do. We're going to keep getting

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the word of God out to people. We're going to

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keep digging into the strange, into the supernatural, into the

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things that the Bible tells us about that everybody else

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is scared to talk about. We're going to keep going

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that way. And man, I'm just I'm just excited and

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happy that you guys have been on this journey with me.

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Speaker 3: It don't seem like it's been three years.

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Speaker 3: It's blown by.

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Speaker 4: Yep, time flies on your Yeah. And we're even talking

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pre ro too. It's cool how you know, we've all

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kind of started doing our own little thing, but it's

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still all tied together. And even how we're talking about

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our future plans, we're all three still tied in together.

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we're going to be co producing together and how it's

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all going to be, we're still going to be interlay together.

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just like anything in your life, it can be the

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you know, the front page of the book. You know

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like you said, and it's so cool that I see

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Justin succeeding at what he's doing. I see Ben branching

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mean quite literally, hey, but that that's how you learn.

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in this and and and some of the documentary stuff

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the on the download right now. I'm not going to

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spoil anything, I promise, but we got some documentaries that

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different side of things, from a full different angle, but

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things and it's just going to be an amazing, amazing

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Speaker 4: And what's really cool with all this from my perspective

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Speaker 4: It really taught me to dream and to be a

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dreamer because I was always Ridgy the realist, and even

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growing up, I always was the big goof off. I

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never fully applied myself. I remember my mother and my

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guidance counselor at school, you know, what are you going

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to be when you grow up? And I'm gonna be

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a factory rat. I mean I look around, That's what

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everybody was. Everybody when they got out of school, they

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ask me all the time, you know, what's your dream?

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to take the time to do that. I just couldn't.

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I thought that was pointless and useless. I was like,

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money to pay for food and housing. And why I

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waste time doing that. I was never a dreamer. I

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thought that stuff was out of my reach. And doing

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this because you pushed me, Steve, you know, to do this,

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it opened up a whole new world. You know, it's

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like a lad and you know, a whole new world.

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Speaker 3: He's good at he's good at pushing. Yeah, he pushed.

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allowed me to dream for the first time in my life.

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it before, but he brought four of us together in

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a Bible study that a bunch of guys were supposed

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so we started this. Ever, it was just us, so

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we started a bottle. And the one time I remember this,

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the kid's birthdays or something, and we were at the

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and you recorded that night, were filmed it live. I

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can't remember how you did it.

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about that that I still got to beat because I

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didn't want to miss anything. And it just a Bible

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study we were doing, and there was just the four

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of us, and you know, granted only there's there's three

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of us here now and and but we still all

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are you know, pushing forward, but the fact that it

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thing that I've heard, you know a lot of different

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Christian uh huh Theological dark Web podcast, right, he always

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in church. I mean, that's something he brings up all

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the time on their little shorts and all the things

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they do. And it's what we said. I'm like, my gosh,

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seeing like this isn't brought up. These are very important

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things that that that are the cultural context the reason

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that we we're just not reading the Bible the right way.

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into our life right now, like it just fits for

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what that did for me open my eyes so much.

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good researcher, reader, full of knowledge, And I was like,

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why he's blessing all of us, even in the individual

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maintaining the core. So I just think it's such a

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a life changing thing for me. It's been a growth

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for me getting to know you guys, because when we

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acquaintances of mine, because I really didn't talk to you

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worship team with you at church Justin and she's like, yeah,

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he talks about bigfoot and stuff. I'm like, I like

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at praise team practice and then she's like, yeah, you

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and my husband Steve need to talk. And then I

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the unseen realm and angels breeding with the daughters of

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Speaker 3: Man. Maybe I just need to get a little small

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not because I was dumb, because I didn't try. And

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like how you talk about the guidance counselors told me,

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you just put in a little bit of effort. You know,

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I got bored. I was like, yeah, whatever, it's stupid.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna make you do that a little more.

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I'm gonna get the cattle pride out and put a

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Bible in front of you, and and and we're gonna

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get you we're gonna get.

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Speaker 3: Your I'll get you, I'll get you the proude and

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i'll take the batteries that limit.

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Speaker 4: But I remember we uh, we got some pushback in

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it was more they didn't understand what we were doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that and and what you hear from a

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lot of people, it's you need to be bringing people

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to Jesus. That what you're not bringing people to You're

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not even talking about Jesus. How how is this a

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Bible podcast If you're not bringing people to Jesus. Well,

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that's great, people need to come to Jesus. But this

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is like we've said all along, that's milk, milk and honey,

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we're we're giving some meat after you've discovered Jesus and

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you're trying to further the walk with them, and which

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go ahead. Well, it's Wednesday night. Doug was talking about

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it even he said that you know, you can go

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to these churches that all every Sunday services get right

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with the Lord, get saved, and and all twelve people

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there are already saved because they're the only twelve that

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ever go, but every they're not, they're not furthering their

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walk with Christ or nothing. So they're just standing steel.

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Well I'm saved. Let's let's I mean that obviously has

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a point you know of you know, these tent revivals

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beyond that to go deeper. And we've come heard a

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lot of topics. I think it's important too, and I

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think you're right. I agree with you one hundred percent,

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people that are sitting there, like yep, I want to

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know about Jesus. I'm ready to understand Jesus, and they

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come in and it's great, it's awesome.

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want people to want to talk about Jesus. The hard

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is what's really sad. And this is where people I

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hate that people go to church once or twice, feel

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judge and they never go again. What happens is people

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come in, maybe they've been maybe they were druid or

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wicked in the past. Maybe they they have you know,

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had been someone who've seen ghosts or had crazy things

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happen in their life, and then they come to church

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and people like, no, that's not real. Nope, Nope, that's

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not you know, and we the church has become very

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spiritually blind and the whole idea of what this supernatural

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realm is as a whole, and it is super important.

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have to meet. You know, in that Gospel, there's no doubt.

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But when we don't sit there and take the time

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to feed and look for everybody, right, we're trying to

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get outside of just that realm of people that are

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in church. I want to find somebody who wants to

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have a conversation that has been like listen, I was.

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I practiced witchcraft for most of my life. I've seen

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I've conjured things, things have come up. I've seen this.

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I went to church and they told me, oh, no, whatever,

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you know, you get judged for this that it is

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no Listen, I know that stuff's real. I know that

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stuff's there. Yea, the Bible talks about it. Don't don't

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ignore those things, these weird things that are uncomfortable for

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us in the Bible that people don't like to talk

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about are very real. If it's in there, it's important.

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it's important, these things are there. And that's why it's

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so important for us to reach those people too, to say,

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look at you're right, there are things out there. They

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might not be what you think they are, but they

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are out there. There's some there's a very supernatural world

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all around us. Is a supernatural war that's happening all

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around us. And if we don't understand that, then we're

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already losing.

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Speaker 3: That's true. And you know why would why would God

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say not to do it if it wasn't real. That's

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like saying, all right, kids, make sure you look under

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you gotta make sure the boogeyman's not underneath your bed

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before you go to bed at night. You ain't gonna

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tell there ain't a such thing as a boogieman, but

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you do tell him to look both ways for across

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the road, because there is such thing as that caller

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coming down running over So but.

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Speaker 5: The boogeyman does look for Chuck Norris under his bed.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean yeah, I mean, let's be I'm sure

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there's a Boogeyman somewhere but not underneath our beds, and

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he's got to watch out for eld Chuck Norris Son.

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess you know. We sit there and we

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talk about I just I love reminiscing about all this.

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I love looking back and seeing you know, where it's been,

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to where it's going, or to where we are now,

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to where it's going past that because there is so

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much and there's so many things happening, and it's like

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a it's it's just a spider. All this just branches

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out into so many different things. It's a huge web, right,

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it branches out into so many different directions, and it's

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going to keep going that way because it's just another way.

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God blesses it, and it gives you another way to

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reach people in a different way. And each one of

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our ministries or shows, whatever you however you want to

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talk about it, each way that we're going or is

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going to reach different people. So this show that started

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out reaching just this group of people. Awesome. You know,

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everybody who's watching this, I love you. I'm so happy

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that you found this. I am so happy you're watching this.

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Share it with everybody you can. If it's not for you. Great,

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I mean it isn't for you, but I just think

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if you're ready to start understanding more of the weird

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stuff in the Bible, you need to tune in. But now,

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with all the other shows and the different things that

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we're doing, we're going to be able to reach people

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in so many different walks of life that we wouldn't

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have reached otherwise if we had just stuck with this

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one show.

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Speaker 5: So with that being said, though, I think it's important

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to look back on a couple of the things that

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we think maybe were some of the cooler things this

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year that we've been and maybe people who are watching

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us haven't seen it and could go back and listen

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or watch some of these things. Because we have some

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some amazing speakers, we've had some just great content shows

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that have been original research here, and then we've had

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some One of my favorite things, and I'll start off

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with it, was our deep dive in the Book of Enoch.

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read it and I have my perspective on it, but

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then I get Ben's, I get justice, we get everybody's

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ideas on what this could mean, what that could mean,

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and it just helps pull that picture together. It was

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such a cool time to go through that and do

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that study with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Definitely was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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we were brainstorming at the end of last year on

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shows to do that, we had brought up and I

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had said that I don't think that I heard a

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podcast do that. I'd heard, you know, podcasts, you know,

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do an episode or talk about Enoch, but I hadn't

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seen an actual show do an actual you know, study

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and just go through and break this thing down. So

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it was kind of a as far as I know,

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a first of its kind. Now, it wasn't a Mi

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Kaiser verse by verse, but it was definitely a bold

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move for a couple of rednecks in the garage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's how most people are going to read it, right,

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most people are gonna look at that, and they're they're

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gonna look at it with fresh eyes, as we did.

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like chapters like eight through like twelve are really our

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Genesis six. You know what I mean that we it's

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that it fills in that holes for us about the

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Watchers and you know, the knowledge and all the different

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things that come out of that. But when you get

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past that and you start diving, I'm looking at with

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fresh eyes, and so many other people will look at

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that with fresh eyes too, and it's really cool to

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just be like, you know what this is, this is

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how I see it, this is what I think this

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could mean. This is what I think this could mean.

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this I don't know, but this is what it could be.

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Pointing to and you see a lot of symbolism and

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the numbers and the way that things are presented. I mean,

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there's so much in the direction. Oh it's a east

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to west direction, it's a you know, these different things

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that you see, and there's a lot of supernatural spiritual

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connotations throughout that. And it's just such a cool book

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for that reason. But man, I do love it probably

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the most, just because it gives you. Once again, I'm

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just gonna preface this because you know how people get

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about the book at Enoch. It is not canonical, right,

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I'm not saying this is in the Bible, not saying

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that this is from the word of God from his mouth, whatever.

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But it's a historical account and could it be embellished, definitely.

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potentially what happened at that Genesis six event, and it

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fills in those puzzles because if you go back in

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eight verses, the world goes from the angels came down

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and had intercourse with the the you know, the sons

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of God have intercourse with the daughters of Adam, right,

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and here we are like then then the flood has

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to happen. Everybody has to die. God's not mean. God's

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not sitting there just looking to pick somebody off. So

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in those eight verses, you know, we just always read

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it and say, oh, I guess something bad happened. That's

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just you know, it was bad. It was corrupt, everything

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was wholly corrupt. What does that mean? So without having

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those pieces which back then they understood it, right, They

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had this information, they had these books, they had this stuff,

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and so they were able to they didn't when the

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writer wrote this, Right, Moses is writing this, He's like,

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don't need to, don't need Yeah, exactly everybody knows this.

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their time. Like we was talking about, some books are

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not meant for us, but we can learn this. Things

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happen over and over and over in society, so they

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can still be applied, but they wasn't directed exactly towards

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Speaker 4: And what puts the baby to bed with me is people,

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I hate that you have to build this defensive wall

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when talking about this book for those certain types of Christians,

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because everything that you said in defense of this view

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of the book Enoch. If we're being honest, you can

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say about your cannon. If we're being honest, your cannon, yes,

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divine inspied word of God, but it was written by

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human people. If we look through all the scrolls found,

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we find different variants, different wordings, scribes, you know, I mean,

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It is the person who adds or takes away why

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you know, just like Ben, you guys have said many times,

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why say that if it was not possible or not

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being done. So it's like, we have to be honest

474
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:24,799
with ourselves. And this book of Enoch was mentioned and

475
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,000
quoted word for word in your canon that us as

476
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:35,359
Christians hold so near and dear to our heart and

477
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:45,359
our New Testament. Writers quoted Jude, which was Jesus's half brother,

478
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:51,839
quotes it word for word. Many people and scholars have

479
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,400
argued that the red letters, some of these read letters,

480
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,839
are quoting out of First Enoch. In reference First Enoch,

481
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:11,680
Peter quotes from Enoch. So it's like, if you have

482
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:18,920
all these references from the apostles that followed Christ, even

483
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:23,519
Christ's half brother direct quoting from it. I feels good

484
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,799
enough for all them. It should be good enough for.

485
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,039
Speaker 3: You at least read.

486
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,759
Speaker 2: There's yeah, but no, but here hear this.

487
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: If it if it was good enough for the people

488
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,039
that wrote the book that you say is divine inspire

489
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:43,720
and hold so near and dear to your heart, why

490
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:44,559
is it not good.

491
00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Enough for you?

492
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: That's a good one good and the Holy spirital guide

493
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,240
you through the book. You know. Granted, like Steve said,

494
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,960
is there some embellishments in there?

495
00:28:57,839 --> 00:28:58,359
Speaker 2: Probably?

496
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,039
Speaker 3: Is?

497
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: There some mistakes in there. Probably, But that's what the

498
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:03,880
Holy Spirit's for.

499
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll, he'll, he'll guide you.

500
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,839
Speaker 5: I'll say the same thing to to what you're saying.

501
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,240
To add to this, right when when we go back

502
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:16,400
and we look parts of First Enoch were found in

503
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,119
the Dead Sea scrolls. Now the Dead Sea scrolls, you

504
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,480
know the s scenes up at Cumran, and if if

505
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,599
you haven't looked into that, you know the three major

506
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,000
religious sects Pharisees, Sadducees, and s scenes. We don't hear

507
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,920
a lot about the scenes obviously in the Bible, but

508
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,119
you hear a lot about the Pharisees and Sadducees. But

509
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,559
the as scenes right in these these these scrolls up

510
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:39,240
in the caves and Cumran, where the Dead Sea scrolls

511
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,400
were found, they would write what they called peshures, which

512
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,359
were it's it's their version of a commentary basically on

513
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,319
the on the Jewish books of the of their Bible.

514
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,200
Right that the Jewish books like on Isaiah are these

515
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,359
books that were prior to them. They had what they

516
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,759
called peshures, and they would only do that for books

517
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:03,960
that they deemed extremely First Enoch. They found a pressure

518
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:07,440
that goes along with First Enoch, a commentary on First

519
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,240
Enoch that they found in the Dead Sea scrolls at Comran.

520
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,079
So you know this was important to them biblically. You know,

521
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:20,000
this is important to them as far as the understanding

522
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,759
the history of their world. Because it's a history book, right,

523
00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:25,680
I can sit there and tell you know, in World

524
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:29,160
War One, this happened, in World War Two, this happened.

525
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,559
Guess what you know where I got that from. I

526
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,240
got that from a history book. Not saying the history

527
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,519
book hasn't been embellished or change or were given a

528
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:39,200
certain part of it, but it's from a history book.

529
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,799
I wasn't there, But just because I wasn't there, do

530
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,119
I believe that First World War happened.

531
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: No, I know what happened and it's not in your Bible.

532
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:53,880
That doesn't mean it didn't happen. That's something that keels. Yeah,

533
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,799
they can't write people that.

534
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,839
Speaker 4: Man, if it ain't in that book, it didn't happen.

535
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,720
It's like, come on, that makes you look so ignorant.

536
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:06,240
I mean it does.

537
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,279
Speaker 3: I know that's blunt, but I mean it is what

538
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:09,799
it is.

539
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 5: If everything was in that book, you no one would

540
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,200
ever be able to read it because it would fill up.

541
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:15,759
I couldn't think about it.

542
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:20,519
Speaker 3: You couldn't how many lifetimes is the Bible cover? You

543
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,799
only have one, so you couldn't read it regardless if

544
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,839
you never pulled your nose out of it.

545
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,559
Speaker 5: This is this is even so much why I think

546
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:33,759
that's even more important for people to understand that you

547
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:35,799
know not you know, you know, you know an ancient book.

548
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:38,480
We don't know exactly when it was written. There's some

549
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:43,200
ideas and guesses, but we don't know exactly when it

550
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,759
was written, or who wrote it, or if it's transcribed

551
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:48,079
by somebody, if it was just oral tradition that somebody

552
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,519
later wrote, and we don't know. But when you go

553
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,599
back and you look at for example, if you go,

554
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,720
I mean this is this is one of my favorite examples.

555
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,240
You talk about this, Ben, how did Peter die?

556
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: Did you signed on the cross upside down?

557
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 5: Is that written in the Bible? No, but it's written

558
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,599
in over thirty other historian books that are not biblical.

559
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,079
But yet accept that is true, right, you know, the

560
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,640
same thing.

561
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:17,319
Speaker 3: It's Jerome.

562
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jerome said that that Paul was beheaded the exact

563
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,000
same day by Nero. The same day. I think it's

564
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,240
a seventh year of Nero's reign that they were that

565
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:31,960
Jerome writes they were martyred on the same day. This,

566
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,599
But we just believe that, and we believe, well we don't.

567
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,759
I mean, we believe these things are true, that all

568
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:43,680
these with the exception of John, were martyred. But there's

569
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,039
only what is it, two or three that are we

570
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240
talked about in the Bible. I can't remember off the

571
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,599
top of my head how many were actually martyred that

572
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,319
it talks about in the Bible. But we have the

573
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,039
accounts of all the others in all these other historical books,

574
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:59,599
so we can't leave these historians out. Like Joe Siphis

575
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,400
is one of the coolest ones to read to me,

576
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,599
because Josepha's had some really Inhretitus, I like a lot too.

577
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,599
But these historians have a lot of really cool stuff

578
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,359
that points like, you know, Joseph, it's not a Christian,

579
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:15,000
he's Jewish guy that was not a Christian, but talks

580
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,400
about Jesus, talks about this stuff in his in his

581
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,720
in his writings, he talks about this stuff.

582
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: So he's a good example too. He writes down stuff

583
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:31,400
and tells and documents and writes about things that were

584
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,880
long long before him.

585
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,039
Speaker 5: Right.

586
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,519
Speaker 4: So if we find a document of him talking about

587
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:46,039
something that happened thousands of years before him, right, and

588
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:50,720
we find that and we date his writings to the

589
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:55,279
time frame that he lived, but he's talking about something

590
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,200
that happened thousands of years ago, how easy would it

591
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,119
be for somebody to say, oh, this is a forgery

592
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,200
because he's talking about this timeframe, but we date it

593
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,559
to this timeframe, right, it was written looking back the

594
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:15,000
story he's telling. That doesn't make the story he's telling false.

595
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:19,360
This is a story that was told through oral tradition,

596
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,920
passed along for how many forever how long until it

597
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,039
was finally written down and that's how Enoch and some

598
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:30,920
of these other stories the Book of Jasher, and that's

599
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,480
what a lot of people make the mistake because they

600
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,480
date these texts and these writings, they say, oh, it's

601
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,880
a forgery. It was dated to this date, so therefore

602
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:46,440
it proves it it's a fake. No, you're missing the point, daddy.

603
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,280
These were oral traditions that were passed along for thousands

604
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,239
of years, well tooken care of until finally somebody like Flavus,

605
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Josephus or Mo This took the time to write them down.

606
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:10,119
So even if you do all your scientific dating and

607
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:15,639
investigations and pinpoint it to a date that proves that

608
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,480
it's not as old as it says it is, that

609
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:24,280
doesn't prove that the account is false. I mean, ninety

610
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,559
percent of the things that we have that are historical documents,

611
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,519
they weren't. You know, like today live at five, we

612
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:34,599
have such and such on.

613
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:35,679
Speaker 2: The scene reporting that.

614
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,039
Speaker 5: No.

615
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:39,639
Speaker 4: I mean, things were pasted orally for thousands of years

616
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,599
until someone finally took the time to write it down.

617
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,480
And that's something we need to get through our head.

618
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:49,639
Speaker 5: Or tell God told them to write it down, because

619
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,360
you'll see very specific they're all inspired. But if you look,

620
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,320
it'll be like, you know, right, like what is what

621
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,880
does what does the angel say to John in revelation?

622
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,119
Write these diyst write these words down?

623
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 3: Right?

624
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,519
Speaker 5: He tells him to write this down while he's on

625
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,119
pat mouse in a cave, you know, with pretty limited supplies.

626
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:13,559
He's writing this stuff down just it is. You're right,

627
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:20,760
it's it's pretty crazy to think about the way that

628
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,440
if we go back to the time and this is

629
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,800
where I struggle with this, and we don't need to

630
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,440
go too deep into it, because I seem to fall

631
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,960
back into this almost every episode. But if we go

632
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:34,519
back into the biblical times, if we go back into

633
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:39,079
when Jesus is there, the First Church has created all

634
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:41,960
these people, they believe these things. They had these a

635
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,159
very supernatural view. There was people, you know, having demons

636
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,840
cast out, and if and if you were you had

637
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,519
some issue or there was some mental health, they thought

638
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:52,840
you were possessed or you would sin these things. It

639
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,760
was a very supernatural view. And we've lost that down

640
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,880
the way, and it's that whole There's a couple different

641
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:03,719
great quotes, but the one that I always have loved

642
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,920
is the greatest trick that the devil ever polled was

643
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,199
making the road think he didn't exist. Back then, everybody

644
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,480
knew there was the supernatural realm. People were still sacrificing,

645
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,480
you know, you go back to the Old Testament, We're

646
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:22,840
sacrificing children to Molac. We're seeing these other gods being

647
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,760
venerated and all this. It was a very supernatural world.

648
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,199
Now we've gotten to a point where we've taken that away.

649
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,559
We've gotten way past even that age of reason right,

650
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,039
and we're into the part where we just kind of

651
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:35,840
let everybody else tell us what to do, and we

652
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,599
just kind of do our thing. We live our own life.

653
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:42,960
We live in the matrix esque. Ignorance is bliss, and

654
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:48,639
we don't have that understanding of the supernatural realm that

655
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:52,840
they did in biblical times, that they did throughout all

656
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,840
the writings. If you just go through and read your

657
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,400
New Testament and don't just skip over of because you

658
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,360
don't understand it, look up, see what it means, see

659
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,320
what they're talking about, dig into it. I just it

660
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,760
just blows me away how many things I used to

661
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,079
look over and just be like, yeah, I don't know

662
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:12,719
what that means. So I'm just gonna keep going. And

663
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,320
now I'm like, if I don't get it, I'm like, Okay,

664
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,440
this is going to mean something cool. I can tell already.

665
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,280
I got to look and see where this came from.

666
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,239
What does this mean? Probably important, It's probably important, And

667
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,679
I think that's where this is. This to me has

668
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,760
been a passion of mine lately. It's just that we

669
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,159
need to the fact that we don't even have an enemy.

670
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,760
The church doesn't see an enemy right now. They don't understand.

671
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,719
And like you said Ben earlier, but oh, come to Jesus.

672
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Come to Jesus. These people, and there's a lot of

673
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:42,519
them that do come to Jesus. But if you don't

674
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:45,320
ever take the next step, you don't grow in your faith.

675
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:48,960
It's the parable of the sower, you know, with the

676
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,840
seed on the path right quick roots and then they

677
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,920
get trampled out. This stuff happens all the time. And

678
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:01,800
if we don't feed that faith, if we don't continue

679
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,360
on that path, if we're not diving into our Bible,

680
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,920
if we're not trying to to grow as a Christian.

681
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,559
You can't just go to church once a week, have

682
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:13,119
somebody talk to you for half an hour and think that, oh,

683
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,599
that's all I needed. Now, I'm I'm my cup is full,

684
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,280
I'm good to go.

685
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

686
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:19,159
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that's not important, because I do

687
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,519
believe it is. But your call is to do more

688
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:25,320
than just go and listen to somebody. Your call is

689
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,920
to dig into the Word yourself. Your call is to

690
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,039
talk to to talk to God directly, to be in

691
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,039
prayer to There's just so much And the fact the

692
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:39,000
crazy part is is that I'm gonna be done after this.

693
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,920
I'm sorry. But the crazy part is to me is

694
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,079
that we sit there and we look at think about

695
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:47,719
back in the day, you know, for them to have

696
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,920
Molot do what they wanted to do, they had to

697
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,880
sacrifice a child, or if you go back to the

698
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,320
Inking or Mayan empires, you know, we talk about that

699
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:01,119
temple that I think it was the Mayan temple that

700
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,760
was at tailed to chip Line or something. I think

701
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,199
it was what it was called. And when they consecrated

702
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:11,000
that temple in four days, they sacrificed eighty four thousand people.

703
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,639
Speaker 4: With the price of eggs and bread slowly approaching a

704
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,119
day's wages. It's more important than ever than to secure

705
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:23,599
the value of your dollar. One thing that has remained

706
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:27,599
steady is gold and silver throughout the ages. Back in

707
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,519
Roman times, a piece of gold would get you a

708
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:36,119
toga that's the equivalent of three thousand dollars today. That

709
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,800
still remains true to this day. For a full suit, shoes, tie,

710
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,440
you're looking at about three thousand dollars because gold and

711
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,800
silver holds its value. So if you're tired of watching

712
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:53,079
the value of your dollar go down every single day,

713
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:57,079
it's time to get off your hands and make a move.

714
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,400
I recently teemed with Cornerstone Asset Metals. Reach out to

715
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,960
those guys for all of your financial needs. It's time

716
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,880
to trade in that forever devaluing dollar into hard assets

717
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,760
that you can hold like gold and silver. Be sure

718
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,719
and check the link down in the description or the

719
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,800
number on the screen, and hey tell him Doc Brown,

720
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,320
sadn't you.

721
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:21,519
Speaker 2: It was a temple of sile.

722
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 5: And they think, they think right that this is what's

723
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:26,719
needed for the gods to do what they what they

724
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,519
need them or want them to do. We can just

725
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,559
talk to ours. He wants the relationship with you, He

726
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,880
wants to just have that that talk with you. I

727
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,840
don't have to go and sacrifice a cat to talk

728
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,639
to him. He's right there.

729
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,039
Speaker 2: Sh it's his blood for you exactly.

730
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 5: So this part, that's the part that just blows me

731
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,679
away that we don't take advantage of that. His word.

732
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,320
You can pick it up, it's in your hand. You

733
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,800
can read it anytime. You can talk to him anytime.

734
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,400
I don't care what country you're in here, a communist country,

735
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:56,480
you might not be allowed to have a Bible, but

736
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:58,840
guess what, you can talk to him anytime.

737
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: That Joe, Joe.

738
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 5: Well, a lot of people back back that far didn't

739
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,320
and actually you were only allowed to listen to the

740
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,800
the priests actually read the scrolls. A lot of people

741
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,320
weren't educated enough to read them.

742
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: Well, they just read them too, from what I understand.

743
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:22,400
They didn't really go into explaining it. But that's just

744
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,840
what I understand, of course.

745
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 5: But I digress from that that train, because we've ye,

746
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,679
you jump on that one a lot, so I know

747
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,719
I can't help it, dude. God's given me a lot

748
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,480
of fire on that right now, because I just see

749
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:41,960
the church as a whole, across this country, across the

750
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,440
world is missing the mark, and we're not necessary.

751
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: A bunch of them completely removing the mark.

752
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 5: But that's that's what we're saying their Yeah, some are

753
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,320
pulling them fully away and some are just not They're

754
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,480
just not watering the seed. And that's that's just as

755
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:02,559
scary to me because those people will be the first

756
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:04,480
ones to fall away when things get tough.

757
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,119
Speaker 3: That's true. So or they think it's all hunky dory

758
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,920
and not prepared for when it gets bad.

759
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 5: At Romans five three through five, remember that just be

760
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,559
grateful for when hard things happen because it builds endurance,

761
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,960
and endurance builds character. Those things are it's it's so important.

762
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,039
We're going to be tested. Bad things are going to happen.

763
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,000
We have to know that. But you have to have

764
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,760
the Gospel in your heart. You have to have faith,

765
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,039
you have to have all these things because that's the

766
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:35,719
only way that you can get through these things is

767
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,400
with God.

768
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: So yep, true, we're done.

769
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 5: I'm promised. I'm done. I'm done.

770
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,199
Speaker 2: Which you know, We've had a lot of.

771
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: Good conversations this year, and I gotta be careful because

772
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,280
I know this is all be aired fairly soon, and

773
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,880
we've got a lot more conversations and I don't know

774
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:03,320
which ones is wan to be released this season right

775
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,960
then go back and be saved for next season. So

776
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,079
that's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to go back

777
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,719
to what I know has been released that I did enjoy,

778
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,360
and I'm probably gonna butcher her last name, So forgive

779
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,000
me if I do, but Carrie Madige I think my day.

780
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:28,679
But she was very interesting conversation and she had a

781
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,519
very interesting testimony to uh. We met her for the

782
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:41,440
first time was at the conference in Dallas, and she

783
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:49,480
spoke there and she gave a very out of the

784
00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:57,840
box talk about cern and supernatural and we immediately went

785
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,719
out and reached out to her and ask her to

786
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,840
come on the show and.

787
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: Had a very.

788
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:11,599
Speaker 4: Just fascinating testimony. She survived a plane crash, and I

789
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:14,719
really enjoyed talking to her, and we actually had her

790
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,679
on a second time. Have we released that second talk yet.

791
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 5: I have to look at that. I have to see

792
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,239
what To be honest, I have to look. But I'll

793
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:31,920
tell you her her insight is pretty remarkable and the

794
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,559
fact that she what I love about her is that

795
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:38,360
she doesn't care what you think. She's going to say

796
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,679
what she believes, and she doesn't care what you think.

797
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:43,320
She's not gonna bend to what somebody says. And she's

798
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:49,039
gone through a lot of persecution on her the COVID vaccine,

799
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:51,519
She's gone through a lot of persecution on some of

800
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:53,960
the other things that she's brought up, some of her

801
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,280
just beliefs and and and really digging into supernatural, the

802
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,880
power of prayer, just so many different things that she

803
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:07,639
really digs into. If you listen to that episode, you'll

804
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:09,679
see why she fits in really well with this channel.

805
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:16,519
So that's definitely our vibe where it's it's Jesus and

806
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:21,760
uh and and all that supernatural stuff too. So yeah,

807
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,599
that's pretty awesome.

808
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,559
Speaker 4: I mean, she's even doing a study like where she

809
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:32,079
was talking to us about they were taking blood samples

810
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:36,679
of people that had illnesses and different things, and they

811
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,760
were just praying, putting hands on someone and praying over

812
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,840
them and playing praise music and stuff like that, and

813
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,159
then uh drawing, like drawing blood from a sick person

814
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,599
and then putting hands on them, praying and playing praise

815
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,360
music and things like that, and then drawing blood immediately

816
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:08,440
after and comparing under a microscope. I thinks what it was, right,

817
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,800
I think, and that they were running tests on it

818
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,119
and was showing that through prayer and praise music and

819
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:20,039
things like that, that they were healing people and they

820
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:22,159
were showing like basically scientifically.

821
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:28,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty crazy to think about, but this

822
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,079
is something where we just don't we can't fathom. First

823
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,280
of all, the power of prayer and how God works, right,

824
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:37,480
there's so much to be said by you know, the word.

825
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:41,800
You know, God gives us. God gives us some of

826
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,920
his I don't want to say ability, but you know,

827
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,519
he bestows on and he bestowed on the apostles, the

828
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,760
power to heal individuals, cast out demons, things like this

829
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:54,400
Holy spirit inside of us gives us some of that

830
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,519
same ability, right because God's with us and it's not

831
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,920
us doing it, it's God using us as a two.

832
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:06,199
So when we have that with us, it is the

833
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,960
things that God can do with us. You think about

834
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:10,320
go back to Genesis and God say, you know, and

835
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,440
God said, it's a spoken word. The power of words,

836
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,119
the power of prayer, the power of what God can

837
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:22,079
do through you is it's really it's it's unlimited because

838
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:24,280
of who God is, who he is, it says faith,

839
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,840
the size of a mustard seed can move mountains, and this.

840
00:48:27,679 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: Is because I'm Magnus wanted to purchase it.

841
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:34,679
Speaker 5: Yes, he did. Didn't go so well.

842
00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, And she said that even that same group she

843
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:46,480
was working with us had come up with basically healing water,

844
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:48,800
said that they were.

845
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: Well, was it through.

846
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: The triple for frequency or something like that?

847
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:02,599
Speaker 4: That that powerful from lobsters, right, yea, that lobster water. Yeah,

848
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,079
I was thinking a lobster water and they were playing

849
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:10,960
some kind of harmonic frequency because she said water has

850
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:15,000
a memory, and that they were throwing that frequency at

851
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,800
the water and that it was holding that frequency in

852
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,920
the water and that when you drank it that it

853
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,039
was had like healing properties and stuff.

854
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 5: Pretty amazing to think about. I mean, you think.

855
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: About this, it's a great conversation.

856
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,599
Speaker 5: This is God's creation. It's unbelievable what his creation can do,

857
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,480
and we'll never fathom it, not till we get up

858
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:38,039
there and they're able to ask all the questions we

859
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:41,679
want to ask, you know. But both those conversations were

860
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:47,000
very enlightening and excellent. Yeah, that was very good. If

861
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:49,480
you go back way at the beginning, the first episode

862
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,280
we had of the year was Gary Wayne. That was

863
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,760
the very first one of the season, and Gary Wayne

864
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,320
talking about bloodlines and nephelom. Gary is. Anybody in this

865
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,880
space knows Gary is, and Gary was amazing. Gary had

866
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,320
such insight and really dug into the bloodlines and where

867
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,360
the nephelom, not just who they were and where they were,

868
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,800
but where they are now and that that might blow

869
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,239
your mind. So if you want to dig into a

870
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:23,079
little bit about why were the nepheloms so important? Why

871
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:28,440
does that matter to us today? Gary is a pretty

872
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,599
interesting guy with a lot of insight. So that one

873
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:35,000
blew me away quite a bit. And I'll be honest,

874
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:37,000
I couldn't get it. I was I couldn't get a

875
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:39,480
word in because Gary's on fire. He just goes. Gary

876
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:42,800
loves it. He's he's an amazing, amazing individual.

877
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:50,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's well researched and he's like the energizer bunny man.

878
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:53,679
Once you put the batteries in, just step back man,

879
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,400
let him go.

880
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:03,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's another one that you you know who else

881
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,239
we had And that's funny. It feels like it's been forever,

882
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,719
but we had Ryan on Ryan Peterson on towards the

883
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,199
beginning of the year two. I want to get him

884
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:11,360
back on the beginning of this next year I got

885
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,920
to reach out to him. There is something about Ryan.

886
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 3: Like that guy.

887
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that guy. There's something about you sitting

888
00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:22,639
down with him. Even the very first time we met him,

889
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,159
it felt like it was Yeah, it was like your

890
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:28,159
best friend. He's just like, Hey, this guy was just awesome,

891
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:30,079
easiest guy to talk.

892
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: He's been like really busy man, or he's been like

893
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,199
on a sabbatical or something. He had me on his

894
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:40,320
Thursday Night Theology a few let's back and then he

895
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,559
agreed to do a Q and A on my show,

896
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:49,199
and we started emailing back and forth try to set

897
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,639
up a date, and then we just kind of lost contact.

898
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:56,760
I emailed him a couple of times and never heard

899
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,639
back from him. Imailed him a few times and I've

900
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:01,239
not heard back from I mean, so, I don't know

901
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,360
if he's just uh turned off these emails for a while,

902
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,639
and there's this deep diving into his writings and work

903
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,159
or taking a sabbatical or what I have to reach

904
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,599
back out to him. I haven't tried to contact him

905
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:16,320
in a month or two.

906
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 5: I would definitely recommend digging into both of his books,

907
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,800
though it is the was it the judgment of the

908
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:31,119
Nephilo and the Last nephil in return. Whether the return

909
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,559
now there was the last Netflik, I can't remember. It's

910
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:38,440
one of those two either way, Ryan Peterson, look it up. Uh,

911
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,559
phenomenal Deep dive books are very well written. If you

912
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:46,880
listen to the audiobook, which I did for one of them,

913
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,519
he's the one reading it and he's a very easy

914
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:53,599
person to listen to. Uh. And like I said, his audio,

915
00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:55,000
the audiobooks.

916
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: Have documentary this year too. Yeah, first documentary.

917
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 5: A lot on his plate, So we'll see. We can

918
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,199
snag him back sometime early this next year, twenty twenty five.

919
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:09,960
Because I love Ryan. He's one of my favorites to

920
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:20,719
talk to. Man. We had Brian Goadala on relatively early

921
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,519
in the year two talking about Hollywood, some of you know,

922
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:29,840
some of the entertainment industry, for lack of a better words,

923
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,480
than the Final Nephilo, the Final Nephilim. There you go,

924
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:39,360
judgment of the Nethilim and the Final Netfilim. But if

925
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,960
you don't Carl Gallups is, let me tell you something.

926
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Carl Gallups, that guy blew my mind with some of

927
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:52,199
the jamatria. If you want to say, but the way

928
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,440
that he breaks down the Hebrew language and especially just

929
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,400
in the beginning of Genesis and shows you all these

930
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,199
different connections were Even in the beginning of the book

931
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:06,239
of Genesis, He's showing the crucifixion. God's showing us the

932
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,960
crucifixion and what's coming. It's it's told, it's it's it's

933
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:14,000
right there, it's right in front of us. And Carl's

934
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:17,440
really blown some stuff out and that's The Yeshua Protocol

935
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:20,480
is a phenomenal book that kind of dives into some

936
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:22,960
of that. But Carl is a great guy, easy to

937
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:27,599
talk to, really funny. But I definitely recommend following him.

938
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:29,719
Listen to that episode. We actually have him on a

939
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,199
couple of times because we talked to him at the conference.

940
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,440
We did an episode with him there, and then we

941
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,079
had an episode with him right about the time. Unfortunately,

942
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:43,360
it was the night that Helene made landfall. It was

943
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,800
the last time we talked to him. It was really

944
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:55,199
that we did not we we need Derek back again.

945
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,199
I'll tell you that I love Derek. We had Rick

946
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:05,000
Hasty back and w I'm talking about their book. That

947
00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:08,679
was a pretty good one because it's like aimed at teens, right,

948
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,039
you know, going through the world that they're in right now,

949
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:13,039
and how to grow up in this world right now.

950
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,079
It's it was I think it was I think I

951
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:20,199
have it written down, search for proof and faith and.

952
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:29,679
Speaker 4: That's and Waverley, very Waverley Cowart and his daughter.

953
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 5: Very good insight, very good conversation.

954
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

955
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:40,079
Speaker 5: I enjoyed that thoroughly. Rick's a great guy, just just

956
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:42,719
an awesome dude to listen to and and to talk with.

957
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,360
Easy to talk with as well, which I love. There

958
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,960
there's some people you have on and it's you know,

959
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,840
it's one of those things where you don't know somebody

960
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,800
and it's kind of hard to kind of gauge how

961
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,840
a conversation is gonna go. And there's other ones like

962
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,960
Ryan or Rick that you can just sit down and

963
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,559
and it's like it's old friends. You just sit down

964
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:03,199
and you have a conversation just like you would if

965
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:04,679
you were sitting on the on the sofa in the

966
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:08,000
living room. And those episodes are my favorite because from

967
00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:09,840
other people that I know that have watched them, they

968
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,679
can sit there and say, man, I feel like I'm

969
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:14,559
in the room with you, and that's such a cool

970
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,280
thing when you can listen to a show it's comfortable

971
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,159
to listen to, it's entertaining, it's engaging, and it's not

972
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,360
awkward at all. You know. It's just such an easy

973
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:30,639
listening episode, so great to listen to. We had doctor

974
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:35,000
Gregor read On, who we've talked to at a couple

975
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,920
of conferences. That's the first time we'd had him on

976
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,440
the show. But man, he's got a few books. Just

977
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:49,880
great insight. Again, Man, I'll tell you, it's so many,

978
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,519
so many authors, so many different people, and I don't know,

979
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:56,920
I want your guys' opinion on this is going forward.

980
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,639
I'm not I mean, I love and we have a

981
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:03,760
lot of these people that we're gonna come back, they're

982
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,840
going to be on again in the future. But I

983
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,840
think I think it'd be kind of cool to open

984
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,639
this up in a different direction. I don't I just

985
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:13,440
don't know exactly how and who we'd want to talk

986
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,239
to on some of these things. A lot of times

987
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,000
it's just the authors are the people that we go

988
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:20,719
to because we've read the books. They're very interesting that

989
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,320
the people getting that information out there. But I think

990
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,320
there's so many more people and so many different avenues

991
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,199
that we could traverse with this, but we could always

992
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:32,679
talk about that later. I just I want you guys

993
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:37,400
thinking something else that would just kind of keep going.

994
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,039
One of the other people we had on was somebody

995
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:47,519
that I met because he had been a neighbor of

996
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:49,800
one of my friends, and that was doctor brock Hollett,

997
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,639
who had wrote the book Jesus the Jews in the

998
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:57,199
End of the Age. Very very very educated man, very

999
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,920
very interesting conversation. I think that one exceptionally well. And

1000
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,800
we talked even a little bit about translations of the Bible,

1001
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,239
where they came from, things of that nature, and a

1002
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,000
lot about his information looking at where we are in

1003
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:18,559
the world today and where it's going. Really interesting. I

1004
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:21,159
just I don't know. I kind of feel kind of

1005
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:23,079
tacky going through these one at a time and just

1006
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:28,840
kind of saying, I mean, I don't know. There there's

1007
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,119
so many we've we've met, you know. We had Kent

1008
00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:36,400
Hovin on again, who I love Kent. We talked to

1009
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,480
Ricky and Shelley from the.

1010
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:48,199
Speaker 4: Man to encapsulate so many, great, so much. And the

1011
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:55,639
thing you see with me is, and that's the thing

1012
00:58:55,679 --> 00:58:58,199
I'm afraid to speak out because I'm afraid I'm going

1013
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,119
to conflate to to.

1014
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:04,079
Speaker 3: That's what you're doing. Have we had Derek on because

1015
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:06,119
I remember talking to Derek.

1016
00:59:06,199 --> 00:59:08,199
Speaker 2: I just don't remember if it was this show or

1017
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:08,840
the other one.

1018
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and then we had all I love it man.

1019
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,559
Speaker 2: I just love the conversations. Man. I just love talking

1020
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:17,239
to everybody.

1021
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 5: It's cool, cool, it is. But the cool part for

1022
00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:23,280
me is that a lot of these people we've got

1023
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,159
to talk to, you know, on these on the show,

1024
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:29,599
and we get to read their books and see But

1025
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,239
then you get to you go to these conferences and

1026
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,159
you meet them and you get to see him face

1027
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:36,480
to face. You get to have a face, you get

1028
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:37,880
to sit down a lot of them, We've gone out

1029
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,679
to eat with, you know, and sat down and hung

1030
00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:44,880
out with these people, and they're just they're just amazing

1031
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,079
people that are trying to get the word of God out.

1032
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:53,199
Speaker 4: Are you a hunter, a hiker, or just an outdoor enthusiast, Well,

1033
00:59:53,239 --> 00:59:56,360
if you are, you know that good quality gear is

1034
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,760
hard to come by and find an all American maid,

1035
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,039
just like finding Bigfoot in the woods.

1036
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:07,559
Speaker 2: Hence the name of Squatch Survival Gear.

1037
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: Head on over to Squatch survival gear dot com. Use

1038
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:25,119
the cop LP ten for ten percent off store wide.

1039
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:29,079
Speaker 5: But in the realm that we're in, they're trying to

1040
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:32,440
reach everybody with that supernatural worldview. For the most part,

1041
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,719
I'm not saying everything we've had on here has been

1042
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,159
exactly that. There are other things that have popped up,

1043
01:00:38,159 --> 01:00:41,039
different books, different authors, things that we've felt inspired, that

1044
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:44,519
we felt led to put on, But so much of

1045
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:48,599
it is that supernatural worldview that the church has left

1046
01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:51,920
behind for a large part. And I just think it's

1047
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,199
so cool that you get to meet some of these people,

1048
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,239
go to these conferences, be able to ask some questions

1049
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,519
face to face. I mean, if you've never sat down

1050
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:05,000
and had a conversation with Derek Gilbert, you are missing out.

1051
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:10,159
You just are Derek. And he's a brain and a half.

1052
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:13,559
I mean, the guy. I don't think he's ever forgot anything.

1053
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:15,320
He's never learned since he was three. I mean, I

1054
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:15,920
just don't think.

1055
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,039
Speaker 3: He had He don't. He don't talk over your head either.

1056
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,320
He talks to you where you're at. I'm sure he

1057
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:28,480
could talk to professor and professor wordage. But then he

1058
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:36,519
talked to this this retard here, and that's that's what

1059
01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:37,239
I'm talking about.

1060
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:39,199
Speaker 5: But Derek is that guy.

1061
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,079
Speaker 3: He's easy to do, really cool, and really.

1062
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 5: We got to give him a lot of credit because

1063
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,440
he's one of the guys that was the first to

1064
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:49,920
jump on our show because Justin Justin emailed him and

1065
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,800
talked to him a bunch well before we did this,

1066
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:58,199
just asking him questions things of that nature. But piles,

1067
01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:00,800
but they were But but Derek was.

1068
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 4: I was a fangirl a year before podcasting.

1069
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:10,239
Speaker 5: He was. He was so gracious to come on to

1070
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,039
a brand new podcast that was having about ten people

1071
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:19,320
listen a week, and that he helped us change this exactly.

1072
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,679
It's pretty much everybody related to and it's grown substantially

1073
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,920
into something where, like I said, this year, we hit

1074
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,400
over one hundred thousand downloads really early in the year,

1075
01:02:31,519 --> 01:02:35,639
and pretty crazy to think about where we're at with that,

1076
01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:38,320
where you went from literally, I mean, and Derek was

1077
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,079
a big part of that in the beginning. He helped

1078
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:43,440
us out, And I mean, I'm extremely grateful for him

1079
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:46,039
for doing that, because what does that do That just

1080
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:50,039
lets our voices be heard, that lets the you know,

1081
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:53,000
God used him in a way to open it up

1082
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:56,159
to reach more people so that we can have our

1083
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,639
voices heard. We can have other people that come on

1084
01:02:58,679 --> 01:03:01,480
our show have their voices heard. And Derek was a

1085
01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:03,360
key catalyst in the beginning of that. And I really

1086
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,760
appreciate him for doing that for us in the beginning

1087
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,360
because that is a he didn't have to do anything

1088
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,360
like that. He had There was no obligation there. He

1089
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,320
just did it out of the goodness of his heart.

1090
01:03:12,679 --> 01:03:14,639
Or maybe God was saying nope, you got to do this.

1091
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,119
I don't know, but I appreciate it either way.

1092
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,679
Speaker 2: And that's something too. Like listeners.

1093
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,519
Speaker 4: I don't know if they understand or not, but I'm

1094
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:24,800
just going to communicate it just in case they don't.

1095
01:03:26,679 --> 01:03:29,920
Guests like these bigger name guests and stuff.

1096
01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Derek.

1097
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,639
Speaker 4: Derek, he'll talk to anybody that's willing to have the conversation.

1098
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:39,519
He's a great one. But some of these bigger name guests,

1099
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:46,519
they follow the audience. You know, if a podcast has

1100
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:50,880
a big enough audience, that determines where they go. You know,

1101
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,760
a lot a lot of these guests, if you don't

1102
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,440
have a large enough audience, they're not even going to

1103
01:03:55,639 --> 01:04:00,199
entertain going on the show. So you have some show.

1104
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: That have really large audiences.

1105
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 4: But the host is not that well studied, you know,

1106
01:04:12,199 --> 01:04:15,360
or not that good of a host, and you know,

1107
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,920
you'll watch the guests go on the show and you're like, gosh,

1108
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,679
I wish they would asked this question or man, you know,

1109
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,320
they didn't talk about this or talk about that. You

1110
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,280
see that a lot because the host is just not

1111
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:34,639
a good thinker or a good researcher. And it's like, guys,

1112
01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:38,119
you know, it's kind of like you know, you the

1113
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:41,239
people you listen to, that's your vote. So if you

1114
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:46,800
find a show that has good researchers or people that

1115
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:52,239
you know, ask intelligent questions and have good intellectual conversations

1116
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,760
in the time, yes, those are the people that you

1117
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,079
need to be listened to, especially if you've got three

1118
01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:01,880
or four shows all talking about the same thing. Don't

1119
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,880
be a Kansas City Chief fan and just go to

1120
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,159
where the crowd is. You know, everybody loves joining the

1121
01:05:09,199 --> 01:05:13,559
winning team. Now find a team that's got, you know,

1122
01:05:13,639 --> 01:05:17,559
good researchers and ask good questions and get on that team.

1123
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:20,880
Because once that team builds a good following, then they're

1124
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,119
gonna start getting the good guests, and that's when you're

1125
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:28,079
gonna get the good questions and get these guests and

1126
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:31,559
start pulling stuff out of them that you're not gonna

1127
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:36,519
get nowhere else because man, just me as a researcher,

1128
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:39,599
I see some of these guests going on these shows,

1129
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:43,239
just like Billy Carson for instance, that show that he

1130
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,760
just went on with Wes. That host was awful. Every

1131
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,840
time he opened his mouth. I just wanted to reach

1132
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,719
to and smack that guy because he just kept interrupting

1133
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,519
and he was awful. Then ask any good questions. It's

1134
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:59,960
like hosts like that are the people that get off

1135
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:04,000
the good guests. It's like they're awful, but they get

1136
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,719
the good guests because they got.

1137
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,239
Speaker 2: Millions of followers.

1138
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 4: And it's like, guys, if people like us got guests

1139
01:06:12,519 --> 01:06:16,559
like that, man, we would have such good conversations, ask

1140
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:19,159
such good questions, and pull such good stuff out of

1141
01:06:19,199 --> 01:06:25,519
these people. But we're not getting the people. So it's like,

1142
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,480
you know, I don't know. It's like I could be

1143
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:33,480
just beating the drum to nobody listening, but it's like,

1144
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:37,960
you know, your listen is your vote. It's like you

1145
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:40,159
got a lot of choices out there. Don't don't just

1146
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:43,159
be Kansas City Chief fans and follow the crowd, you know,

1147
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:47,440
and follow the winning team, and don't just go to

1148
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,400
to Walmart and support the big corporation. It's like a

1149
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,840
lot of your best shows are these little indie shows.

1150
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:56,559
Speaker 2: You know.

1151
01:06:56,679 --> 01:07:02,719
Speaker 4: Don't don't go to Amazon and then give Jeff Bezos

1152
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,920
and make the rich man even richer. You know, find

1153
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,079
you a smaller podcast, and I guarantee you if you

1154
01:07:09,159 --> 01:07:16,039
compare the content to the big name shows, these smaller

1155
01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:19,719
shows are going to outperform them. And if you get

1156
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:23,360
with them, help them grow, You're going to get better content.

1157
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: I guarantee you, grant done. I digress.

1158
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:31,679
Speaker 5: Let's back it up.

1159
01:07:33,239 --> 01:07:34,599
Speaker 3: You ain't heard that in the wild.

1160
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,519
Speaker 5: It's been a bit. I figured I had to bring

1161
01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:41,840
it up once this year, man, But I don't disagree

1162
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,840
with Justin. I think it's important that you that, you know,

1163
01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:47,039
the whole point of this is that we're getting out

1164
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,679
and some of that falls on us, you know, some

1165
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,599
of that falls on us, and the way because a

1166
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:54,400
lot of these bigger shows, the reason that they get

1167
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,440
that is because they invest a lot of time and

1168
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,840
resources and money into shorts and and all these.

1169
01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:04,719
Speaker 3: That's probably all they do.

1170
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:12,039
Speaker 5: We sure do And then and then doing this stuff.

1171
01:08:12,039 --> 01:08:14,800
And right now, like you know, I, I'm recording three

1172
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,039
shows and and you know I'm editing yours Ben and

1173
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:22,600
and for the most part, Jason does all the DIG

1174
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,399
stuff and except for my shorter stuff, so we have

1175
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,520
there's a lot on my plate. Justin, you do so

1176
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,960
much for your channel, I know you do. And Ben

1177
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:37,560
is fixing every car in Hawkins County. So that's just

1178
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,199
what happens to make a show. To make a show,

1179
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:42,279
well before that was just out of the goodness of

1180
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:47,039
your house. But you know, there's a lot on everybody's plate,

1181
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,800
and it does. It is hard, and I do hope

1182
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,840
that it's some It would be awesome because the DIG

1183
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,319
does not make anything financially. There's just there. There is

1184
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:00,159
nothing there that doesn't happen. We do this because we're

1185
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,439
trying to spread the word of God. I would love,

1186
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,600
I mean, it would be amazing.

1187
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 3: To be able to well, or at least.

1188
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 5: That that will never happen. But what I'd love more

1189
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,199
than anything would be able to sustain a living and

1190
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:20,840
be able to do this, like Justin said, to full time,

1191
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:25,039
so I could spend so much more time on the shows,

1192
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:30,079
on the research, on the the reading on the you know,

1193
01:09:30,119 --> 01:09:32,640
all the things that go into this, because that's how

1194
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:35,680
we would take it to the next level, would be

1195
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,119
doing you know, being able to have a full time

1196
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,640
in this. The only other option we got is because

1197
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,119
buy is winning the lottery, so we can all quit,

1198
01:09:44,199 --> 01:09:44,479
you know.

1199
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 3: But that I keep looking to see if I got

1200
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,920
the winning numbers. But I've always been told I have

1201
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,720
to buy a lottery ticket first.

1202
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,359
Speaker 5: You can't just write them down.

1203
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,279
Speaker 3: I wrote it on a sticky note the other day,

1204
01:10:05,319 --> 01:10:07,800
and they's like, we ain't taking that. Get out of here.

1205
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,960
I'll even know where they share with that.

1206
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 5: I do think in all things that that you're saying there,

1207
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,199
just I think that it's really important that we do

1208
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:20,640
say then to the people that are listening and that

1209
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,640
have followed us, and so many people have been with

1210
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,880
us since even very you know, right after Mom and

1211
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,520
and everybody else, you know, when when we started getting going,

1212
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,319
and Derek helped us out in the beginning, and a

1213
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:34,479
couple other people helped us out pretty big early on.

1214
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:37,960
And we've had a lot of listeners from that first

1215
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,359
season that have stuck with us, that that communicate and

1216
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,840
talk in our face. I would highly recommend you get

1217
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,319
on our Facebook group on the dig it is it

1218
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,319
it's you know, it's a forum on there. You can

1219
01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:55,119
ask questions, we talk and people put memes. People you know,

1220
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:57,880
just go back and forth. We recommend books, things of

1221
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:02,079
this nature like. It's such a great place, a community

1222
01:11:02,119 --> 01:11:04,520
where you can come talk about the supernatural, not be

1223
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,840
judged because you know what, somebody comes at you on there,

1224
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:12,119
I will click you're done. We don't do that on there.

1225
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,399
We don't play those games. We want people to come

1226
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,199
in there. It's a safe space. You can talk, you

1227
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:19,520
can ask those difficult questions and we can all be

1228
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,079
there as a family, as a group together and grow together.

1229
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,800
And that's a great place. You want to hear something

1230
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,760
on one of these shows. You got an idea of

1231
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,600
somebody you'd like us to try to reach out and

1232
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,399
talk to, come on there and tell us come on

1233
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,359
and say something. We would love that. So we have

1234
01:11:34,399 --> 01:11:37,520
a decent amount of people that are on that forum

1235
01:11:39,039 --> 01:11:41,000
now it's over a thousand some odd people. I'm not

1236
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,479
sure how many are on there, but there's a lot

1237
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,359
of people on there. There's some interaction, there's a lot

1238
01:11:45,359 --> 01:11:47,960
of stuff posted back and forth. I just would love

1239
01:11:49,159 --> 01:11:51,399
more people to get more active on there to let

1240
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,800
us know what they think. You know, what would you

1241
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,680
like to see? What would you like to have us

1242
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,920
talk about? Give us some other show ideas. I would?

1243
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:05,199
I would? I love that? So yeah, I just would.

1244
01:12:05,319 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 4: I can going off what I was saying too, uh.

1245
01:12:09,399 --> 01:12:12,880
Put me, Put me to the test and get email

1246
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,279
us or get on the community forum. Put me to

1247
01:12:17,319 --> 01:12:25,600
the test. Apples to apples, Get on our you know

1248
01:12:26,319 --> 01:12:28,479
r S S Speed or or or on my r

1249
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,279
S S Speed. Just get on on any of our shows.

1250
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,159
Search up any guests, whether it be Derek Gilbert, Gary, Wayne,

1251
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:43,800
Timpty Alberino, any of these these guests, type up their

1252
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,199
name and listen to you know, the dig Bible podcast

1253
01:12:48,359 --> 01:12:52,000
from etheist Lens. Listen to one of our conversations with

1254
01:12:52,039 --> 01:12:56,479
those with one of those guests, and then listen to

1255
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,159
a big name show that's in our genre to make

1256
01:13:00,199 --> 01:13:04,560
your pick and take that same guests and listen to

1257
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:11,119
an episode with them and compare apples to apples. Listen

1258
01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:16,880
to the conversation. You know, get rid of the production value,

1259
01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:23,159
you know, because that that's money conversation. I guarantee you

1260
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:27,640
the conversation is going to be better. The intellectual level

1261
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:34,680
is going to be better, and even the stuff we

1262
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:43,199
talk about is going to be sooner because it's just

1263
01:13:43,319 --> 01:13:45,640
it's it's different, like, for instance.

1264
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,319
Speaker 3: The Valley of the Shadow of Death. We talked about

1265
01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:53,079
that with Derek Gilbert years before a lot of other people.

1266
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,720
So the indie shows is where it's at, guys, you

1267
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,680
hear it first from the from the Little Guy, the

1268
01:13:58,680 --> 01:13:59,159
Little Guys.

1269
01:13:59,199 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: Where it's at.

1270
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. I don't know. I think it's important. I

1271
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:08,279
think it's important that people that people find someone they

1272
01:14:08,319 --> 01:14:11,319
identify with, that they can listen to, that they can

1273
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:12,680
you know.

1274
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,039
Speaker 3: Relate to.

1275
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:19,159
Speaker 5: But I do think I think it's really really important.

1276
01:14:19,239 --> 01:14:21,359
And I think the cool part about shows that are

1277
01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:24,039
smaller and we know a lot of them, you know

1278
01:14:24,079 --> 01:14:25,800
what I mean, We've we've talked to a lot of them,

1279
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,439
We've had them on some of them on our show,

1280
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,199
you Justin, You've gone on a few other ones. But

1281
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,319
a lot of these smaller shows that do put in

1282
01:14:32,359 --> 01:14:33,920
a lot of the hard work, the people that still

1283
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,800
are working nine to five days, they're putting out good content.

1284
01:14:37,159 --> 01:14:39,640
But the cool part about those if you want to

1285
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,720
hear something, if you want to do that. You you'll

1286
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,600
hear back from them, You'll hear back from us. You

1287
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:50,359
reach out, we'll we'll respond. Well, you want to hear it.

1288
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 3: Not too big for the guy I will.

1289
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,199
Speaker 5: I know I will never be too big for little guy.

1290
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:59,640
I don't care because I love when I reach out

1291
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,640
to some When we're looking for guests and I have

1292
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,000
somebody that I look up to as a phenomenal speaker

1293
01:15:05,079 --> 01:15:08,600
or something, I reach out to them and then they

1294
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,680
reach back out to me. That means something to me.

1295
01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:13,880
That's a big deal to me that somebody I look

1296
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,399
up to that do these things. And I'm not saying

1297
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,520
people look up to us, But what I'm saying is

1298
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,920
that you can reach out. You can get a hold

1299
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,720
of us. It's not like just somebody on a TV

1300
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,399
screen somewhere. You can reach out. You can get a

1301
01:15:24,399 --> 01:15:26,640
hold of us. You want to hear something, you want

1302
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,039
us to dig into something. I do think this next

1303
01:15:30,079 --> 01:15:34,680
coming year, just like we did first Enoch, we need

1304
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,000
to either pick Jubileese or jash Or and do the

1305
01:15:37,039 --> 01:15:41,159
same thing. Start breaking down another one of those historical books.

1306
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,199
And on top of that, Ben you know it was

1307
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:46,520
his idea to start doing the Bible studies, and we

1308
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,359
went through this year, we went through the Book of Judges,

1309
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:50,119
and we went through a few chapters at a time

1310
01:15:51,359 --> 01:15:56,119
and broke down the Book of Judges. And we'll continue

1311
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:58,920
on doing different things where we're breaking down God's word.

1312
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,760
There's so many different things that we do on here

1313
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,359
because each one of us is so different. I mean,

1314
01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:08,920
the three of us being great friends, but at the

1315
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,319
same time, each one of us are.

1316
01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:13,079
Speaker 3: So definitely different.

1317
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 5: I mean, sure there was such a thing as three poles.

1318
01:16:16,279 --> 01:16:18,680
We're all polar opposite. I mean, we are all are very

1319
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,239
different people. But that's what I think makes it great

1320
01:16:23,319 --> 01:16:25,319
is that we all come from different walks, we all

1321
01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:30,600
have different insight, we all have It's just it's a

1322
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:35,760
very unique eclectic mix, especially, like I said, because when

1323
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,159
we started this, we really didn't all know each other

1324
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:40,880
that well. So it's pretty cool.

1325
01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 2: Yep.

1326
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:50,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, it's a it's a spicy sandwich, that's for sure.

1327
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,840
It's an acquired taste.

1328
01:16:54,159 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 5: That it is. But man, I just I'm excited. I

1329
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,760
think you guys will be excited for some of the

1330
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:07,000
guests coming up this year, some of the content. I'm

1331
01:17:07,039 --> 01:17:10,039
gonna just say this right now. Well, I'm thinking about

1332
01:17:10,039 --> 01:17:12,920
it because I know we're probably getting close here, but

1333
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,960
I want to make sure everybody tune into the dig.

1334
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,439
Tell your friends, share this stuff, get it out there.

1335
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,319
If there's one episode you really liked, share it with

1336
01:17:24,359 --> 01:17:26,840
your friends, put it on your Facebook feed, send it

1337
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,720
out there, say take a listen to this. That's the

1338
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,600
only way he shows like this grow and we reach

1339
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,399
more people, because the whole point is we're not reaching

1340
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,720
them for us, We're reaching them for God. We really are.

1341
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,039
That's the whole point is we want to spread the

1342
01:17:37,079 --> 01:17:39,359
word to all these different people and make it so

1343
01:17:39,399 --> 01:17:42,279
that the Bible doesn't have those strange, weird parts, that

1344
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,920
we can make sense of it, that we can dig

1345
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,399
into God's word and not just gloss over some of it.

1346
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:55,039
So super important. Listen to the Prometheus. Lens Justin has

1347
01:17:55,079 --> 01:17:59,560
amazing guests, awesome conversation. When he's talking about intellectual people,

1348
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,720
he's talking about himself because me and Ben are not

1349
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,159
that guy. But I am.

1350
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,079
Speaker 3: I am definitely not that guy.

1351
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 5: But no, that conversation and the insight that will blow

1352
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,920
you away. It'll it'll, it really will blow you away.

1353
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,079
I've I've listened to a lot of his stuff, a

1354
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:20,600
lot of his episodes, and there's a couple that once

1355
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,239
in a while, you got to listen to this, and

1356
01:18:23,279 --> 01:18:25,920
I sit down and and I just I'm when I'm done,

1357
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,079
I'm I'm scratching my head because I'm sitting there, going

1358
01:18:28,079 --> 01:18:29,640
I have to listen to that again because it was

1359
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,960
It just blew me away, and I'm trying to absorb

1360
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,920
it all. There's so much good content. Justin knocks it

1361
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,520
out of the park with that show. There's just so

1362
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,520
much it's it's amazing. So listen to the Prometheus Lens.

1363
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,359
Definitely in the near future you're gonna be watching The

1364
01:18:45,399 --> 01:18:48,199
Muddy Pissing Garage. It'll be on YouTube, it'll come out.

1365
01:18:49,159 --> 01:18:53,119
It's not straight scripturally based, but it is definitely family friendly.

1366
01:18:54,199 --> 01:18:55,880
You need to fix your car, will make it happen.

1367
01:18:56,079 --> 01:18:58,199
But that's just gonna be something out there that we're doing.

1368
01:18:58,319 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 3: Just hey, if you're local, I might fix your car

1369
01:19:02,039 --> 01:19:03,159
for you.

1370
01:19:03,159 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 5: You never know.

1371
01:19:04,119 --> 01:19:06,159
Speaker 3: On YouTube, you never know.

1372
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,119
Speaker 5: Keep make sure you listening to Sean and Brian the

1373
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:17,079
Vessels podcast, Good Friends of Ours awesome show Good Insight

1374
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,840
definitely a different format than ours, but there's a different

1375
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:25,079
flavor for everybody out there. And then also listen to

1376
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:31,600
the Mustard Seed podcast with Liz Keisha Leslie the girls.

1377
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,640
They go into they're doing a lot of the women

1378
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,000
of the Bible breaking it down and then doing Bible

1379
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,800
studies from a woman's point of view. And it's something

1380
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,800
that we just can't give. I mean, us as guys

1381
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,039
cannot give the same insight into something that they can.

1382
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,159
And I think it's important that you can hear it

1383
01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:50,319
from both sides. You know, God gave us men and

1384
01:19:50,319 --> 01:19:53,600
women are very unique for many different reasons, but their

1385
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,880
insight into things is one of those things. So getting

1386
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,520
that scriptural insight from a woman, especially when you a woman,

1387
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,359
can mean so much more and you can take so

1388
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,239
much more from it. So I think it's important. But

1389
01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:08,600
the Mustard Seed podcast dive into that, and just to

1390
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,319
think that all this stuff has spawned from the dig

1391
01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:15,760
three years ago just still just blows my mind. It's

1392
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,079
just the most amazing thing to me. It's such a blessing.

1393
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,640
I love you guys. I think this is just such

1394
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,079
a cool thing that we get to do. We don't

1395
01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:26,199
have to do, we get to do it. But at

1396
01:20:26,199 --> 01:20:28,359
the same time, I know God's pushing it forward, and

1397
01:20:28,399 --> 01:20:29,680
it's what we're supposed to.

1398
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,079
Speaker 2: Do next year.

1399
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 4: Sometime next year we will have a documentary of the Mounds.

1400
01:20:42,399 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 2: YEP.

1401
01:20:43,039 --> 01:20:46,359
Speaker 4: I am wrapping up my book and I told myself

1402
01:20:46,399 --> 01:20:52,199
that I didn't want to get involved in two projects

1403
01:20:52,359 --> 01:20:55,359
at once, so I said, once I finished the book,

1404
01:20:55,880 --> 01:21:00,399
then I would get it involved in the documentary. All

1405
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,640
the filming of the documentary is like ninety percent done.

1406
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,119
I just didn't want to get involved in all the

1407
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:08,800
editing and stuff until I finished the book. The book

1408
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,680
is in the final stages of formatting. So next year

1409
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,680
you will see me and Steve in.

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Speaker 2: A Mounds documentary.

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Speaker 5: Stay tuned and then be on the lookout also for

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01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:28,279
the documentary. The it'll be it's a creation evolution one

1413
01:21:28,319 --> 01:21:30,800
which I know those have been out there kind of

1414
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,800
creation versus evolution, but this is it's going to be

1415
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:39,359
called what are the Chances? And it's going to bring

1416
01:21:39,399 --> 01:21:43,159
a fresh perspective. It's going to have some amazing individuals

1417
01:21:43,159 --> 01:21:47,039
in it, and God keeps opening some crazy doors for this.

1418
01:21:47,359 --> 01:21:52,279
That is it's just it's unreal. It doesn't make sense.

1419
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,439
Sometimes when you look and you think you know, I'm

1420
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:59,239
I'm nobody, but God's still using me to make these things,

1421
01:21:59,239 --> 01:22:02,840
and God still use me to to push forward and

1422
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let me be a part of His work. But it's

1423
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:10,920
going to be a fresh, unique take on the creation

1424
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:17,039
versus evolution thing that is going to give you an

1425
01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:24,079
apologetic view, but using the science too to show you

1426
01:22:24,159 --> 01:22:28,319
the truth. I don't want to spoil too much because

1427
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,279
it will blow your mind, I guarantee it. So look

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01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:36,640
forward to all these projects coming up. There's so much.

1429
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,880
We're doing so much at the same time, working on

1430
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:43,640
five jobs, but we're all doing this and we're all

1431
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,640
we're all in. I mean, this is what God's put

1432
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,800
in front of us. It's it's it's this is our

1433
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:55,399
our plate to you know, continue, I don't know, just

1434
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,399
continue getting after because it's a blessing to be able

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01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:01,720
to do what God wants you to do. It's a

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01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,399
blessing to be part of this. It's a blessing to

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01:23:03,399 --> 01:23:06,439
hang out with you guys. It's a blessing to continue

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to be here on the dig. And I appreciate you guys. Yeah,

1439
01:23:11,319 --> 01:23:14,640
you mean well as always

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Speaker 3: Keep digging.