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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 2>We are live in Chicago this week for the Democratic

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<v Speaker 2>National Convention. We were speaking earlier about how things went

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<v Speaker 2>way over schedule last night during the speaking portions of

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<v Speaker 2>the event.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary and Shannon, I hope you're having good and safe

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<v Speaker 3>fun in Chicago. But let me get this right. None

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<v Speaker 3>of the organizers have ever been to a convention before.

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed that the applause goes on for way too long.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I also think it may have been yet

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<v Speaker 2>another way for them to poke a finger in the

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<v Speaker 2>eye of b Wasserman Schultz by putting her on the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule and then yanking her.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that was scripted.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things we've had our eye on are

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<v Speaker 1>the demonstrations and the potential for chaos outside as thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of demonstrators have taken to the streets. We saw some

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<v Speaker 1>of the action yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>Jim Ryan is on.

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<v Speaker 1>This beat for ABC News and joins us.

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<v Speaker 6>US now from somewhere in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>From US somewhere here, Jim, how are you hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Outside where The protesters gathered yesterday, thirty five hundred of

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<v Speaker 7>them according to the police, and they began in a park,

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<v Speaker 7>Union Park, which is several blocks away from the United Center,

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<v Speaker 7>that held a big rally there, primarily a pro Palestinian rally,

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<v Speaker 7>although there were some people who walked into this event

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<v Speaker 7>with Israeli flags. The police were there that these activists,

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<v Speaker 7>called peacekeepers, were there to keep everybody separated and keep

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<v Speaker 7>it peaceful, and it was peaceful. The group then moved

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<v Speaker 7>over toward the United Center, thirty five hundred strong. This

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<v Speaker 7>big march that went on. Then at some point you

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<v Speaker 7>know that a few of them broke off and broke in.

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<v Speaker 7>This actually went over the outer perimeter fence or through

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<v Speaker 7>it or around it, or something got through that fence,

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<v Speaker 7>and that they were approaching the bill. They couldn't get

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<v Speaker 7>close to it. Really. The police came and they were arrested,

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<v Speaker 7>but not before, according to the police, some of these

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<v Speaker 7>protesters sprayed the officers with pepper spray. The police say

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<v Speaker 7>they didn't spray anything, but the protesters did. So it's

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<v Speaker 7>only thirteen people were taken into custody during this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>There was also some action that I saw at least

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<v Speaker 2>video this morning from farther downtown near some of the

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<v Speaker 2>hotels where protesters ended up getting.

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<v Speaker 6>Tickled with batons.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps by a couple of Chicago police officers. What's the

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<v Speaker 2>expectation for the rest of the week. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>there are other permitted protests, right, yes.

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<v Speaker 7>Well there are, and there's one tonight here there's a

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<v Speaker 7>little more not menacing than maybe ominous. The one that's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be held in front of the Israeli Consulate

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<v Speaker 7>here in Chicago. A group that does not have a

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<v Speaker 7>permit for this event is planning to rally there at

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<v Speaker 7>about seven o'clock this evening. It has made some interesting

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<v Speaker 7>comments online. The slogan for this thing is make it

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<v Speaker 7>great like sixty eight, which you know is a callback

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<v Speaker 7>to nineteen sixty eight when the DNC here in Chicago

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<v Speaker 7>turned very violent. So, you know, I think that's one

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<v Speaker 7>to watch this evening. We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 6>What are your plans for Chicago?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've been outside, this is how do you

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<v Speaker 2>How are you going to stay safe?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>I have my weights, you know, we've been issued equipment

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<v Speaker 7>and security folks who were with us, and so it's

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<v Speaker 7>just a matter of using what you know and what

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<v Speaker 7>you can do and the best way to escape the

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<v Speaker 7>situation when it turns nasty. So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't mess around with Jim Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that you got another thing coming.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you all right, I have a great day. Thanks

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<v Speaker 6>for taking time for us. Talk you guys. Jim Ryan

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<v Speaker 6>there with ABC News. So there was.

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<v Speaker 1>A former Obama senior advisor, Valerie Jarrett, a name should

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<v Speaker 1>be familiar.

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<v Speaker 5>We spoke at a Axios.

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<v Speaker 1>Event today and gave a kind of a a look

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<v Speaker 1>at what Barack and Michelle Obama will be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Specifically during their speeches at the DMC tonight. She says

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<v Speaker 1>they will be calls to action about the need to

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<v Speaker 1>translate the excitement for Kamala Harris into votes. Valerie Jarrett,

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<v Speaker 1>now CEO of the Obama Foundation, longtime friend of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>says that these two are going to emphasize the need

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<v Speaker 1>for an all hands on deck approach while also talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the sense of optimism that course through the party

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<v Speaker 1>its voters. She noted that former First Lady Michelle Obama

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<v Speaker 1>knows Vice President Harris very well.

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<v Speaker 5>She says that this is going.

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<v Speaker 1>To be a message of us getting engaged again, working

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<v Speaker 1>hard again to get the vote out, about democracy being

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<v Speaker 1>under attack and under threat, and how it's up to

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<v Speaker 1>them to be engaged citizens to make sure the country

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<v Speaker 1>gets back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like you said earlier, Obama, at least the president

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<v Speaker 2>has quite a speaking style and can hold an arena

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<v Speaker 2>like this pretty captivated.

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<v Speaker 6>So we'll watch that tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Chicago for day two of the Democratic and

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<v Speaker 2>National Convention. The big headliners tonight, of course, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>Barack and Michelle Obama. Obama giving the keynote speech tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>Harris not even going to be here Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 1>More importantly, what are we going to eat tonight? That

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<v Speaker 1>is a good question, because we've done the pizza.

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<v Speaker 5>At least we've done so we should do another pizza place.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, don't we do another pizza place? Okay, that's good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't have to take don't hit me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry. I'm sorry for striking you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got excited with the idea of another pizza place.

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<v Speaker 5>Because we did pizza the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Night, and then we had a piece of meat last

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<v Speaker 1>night that was a beautiful piece of meat. I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was most beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>People said it was the shiniest meats.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the most beautiful, delicious meats. And the mac

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<v Speaker 1>and cheese was good as well.

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<v Speaker 6>What was left of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the diabetes I'll enjoy. But yeah, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>got to get back on that pizza train tonight and

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<v Speaker 1>the Navarro will act as the host for tonight's Day

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<v Speaker 1>two activities here at United Center.

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<v Speaker 2>The theme for tonight is a bold vision for America's future.

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<v Speaker 6>We talked about the Obamas. Governor JB.

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<v Speaker 2>Pritzker from Illinois will be one of the speakers for tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the organizers for last Night, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>multiple speeches had to be cut, including speeches from Debbie

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<v Speaker 2>Wasserman Schultz and cringresswoman gay Grace meng as well as

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<v Speaker 2>a performance by James Taylor because they ran completely over time.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we'll pay attention to those tonight. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about them tomorrow. But in the meantime, what else

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<v Speaker 6>Time four? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this just to keep it political here for

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<v Speaker 6>Robert F.

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<v Speaker 2>today that the campaign is considering dropping its bid for

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<v Speaker 2>president and joining forces with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>She was asked in a podcast today, the Impact Theory podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>they were looking to the Harris campaign for a cabinet position.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely not in talks with Harris.

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely never have brought up this idea of an endorsement

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely has never brought up a cabinet position with Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>So now she says, that's all fake news, basically, But

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<v Speaker 2>she said that the options are looking at. One is

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<v Speaker 2>staying in obviously, but then suggested that if they did that,

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<v Speaker 2>they might pull votes away from and end up giving

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<v Speaker 2>Harris and Walls the presidency vice president six to.

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<v Speaker 5>Seven work seven pm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she says, or we walk away right now and

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<v Speaker 2>join forces with Donald Trump and explain to the base

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<v Speaker 2>why they're making that decision. And she said it's not

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<v Speaker 2>an easy decision. So that's something that is something that

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<v Speaker 2>they are looking at, at least in the Kennedy camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear about this story about the yacht that

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<v Speaker 1>overturned a super yacht tragedy. Apparently it was a high

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<v Speaker 1>powered attorney from New York Christopher Marveo and as jewelry

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<v Speaker 5>Six lost at sea.

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<v Speaker 1>This was off the coast of Sicily on Monday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>There were twenty two people aboard this thing, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty four foot luxury British vessel. Fifteen were rescued

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<v Speaker 1>after it overturned bad weather, perfect storm type stuff. One

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<v Speaker 1>body was found and there are six people unaccounted for.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that it overturned sometime after five am near Palermo,

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<v Speaker 1>where it was ad There were ten crew members, twelve passengers,

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, there's a price tag on the Boston Celtics. We

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<v Speaker 2>say that from the Chicago Bulls Arena. Of course, this

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<v Speaker 2>price tag is somewhere around six billion dollars. They said,

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<v Speaker 2>someone with extremely deep pockets is going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>pony up six billion for one of the world's leading

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<v Speaker 6>Who's got six.

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<v Speaker 2>Billion sitting in the probably between the couch cushions.

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<v Speaker 6>Right now, Jeff Bezos.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're talking about Jeff Bezos, legitimate buzz about him

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<v Speaker 2>buying the Boston Celtics. According to Bill Simmons of The

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<v Speaker 2>Ringer Tim kain Man. That guy was pretty boring, wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>he Does anybody walk around and just go, hey, senator,

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<v Speaker 2>you might want to brush your hair real quick something.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a gaggle of reporters around him earlier, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who's dying to talk to Tim Kaine?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was the vice presidential nominee.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>That.

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<v Speaker 5>And a dollar will get you a bag of chips.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mentioned Scott Peterson talking to Gloria Allread this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I did is because there's a couple documentaries out.

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<v Speaker 1>One is American Murder on Netflix that goes through the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, and one is a Peacock documentary called Face

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<v Speaker 1>to Face with Scott Peterson, and this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that he has spoken out about this since his

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three arrest, maintaining his long held belief.

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<v Speaker 1>In this documentary, he goes on to say that a

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<v Speaker 1>group of burglars are responsible for his wife's death. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what he told the interviewer over a video call

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<v Speaker 1>from jail. He said, there was a burglary across the

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<v Speaker 1>street from our home. There was a lot of people involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe Lacey went over there to see what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on, and that's what she was taken.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would she go over there to see someone burgling

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm eight months pregnant. I'm going to go put.

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<v Speaker 1>My life in jeopardy to see who's breaking into my

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, maybe not as important, but the US Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>of State has visited fellow mediators Egypt and caught her

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<v Speaker 2>as he is trying to press ahead with the latest

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<v Speaker 2>diplomatic mission to secure a cease fire deal in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>to new conditions from Israel. Of course, Anthony Blincoln didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say so. I didn't say as much or say anything

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<v Speaker 5>Our table has.

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<v Speaker 1>Been confirmed at lou mal Natti's excellent. I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there before for football and it's a lot of pizza.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very deep, it's very big.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be the biggest deep dish pizza you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it the shiniest it's the shiniest.

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<v Speaker 6>It is one of those places that people told us

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<v Speaker 1>You are better looking than the pizza.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a lie. The pizza is better looking than you,

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<v Speaker 5>much better looking.

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<v Speaker 6>I see what you're doing, and I don't appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>In Chicago, just down the street, there's a new pangolin

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<v Speaker 2>pup that was born at the Brookfield Zoo.

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<v Speaker 5>What's a pangolin?

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<v Speaker 2>Pangolin was one of those animals that they originally thought

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<v Speaker 2>might have prompted COVID. Really, yeah, because I guess a

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<v Speaker 2>panglin you could eat it. And they were making pangolin

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<v Speaker 2>stew with that angle in at that wet market.

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<v Speaker 5>How do I? How do I spell that?

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<v Speaker 6>The peg?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Olin?

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<v Speaker 5>There it is. Just look at how cute that little shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But with the scales, We're going to go from pangolin

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<v Speaker 1>Pangolins are the only mammals that have scales. They're made

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<v Speaker 1>The scales make up about twenty percent of their body

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<v Speaker 1>weight and it's their main defense mechanism. When threatened, pangolins

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<v Speaker 1>coral into a ball and become immobile. They're known as

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, some panglins have tongues that could be up

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<v Speaker 1>to sixteen inches long.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you know that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just going to turn that down. I can't hear

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<v Speaker 2>To seventy million insects live today in Chicago for the

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Congressman Emmanuel Kleaver out of Kansas City, Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got to say right off the bat, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we're in Chicago and pizza is what you have here,

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<v Speaker 1>But the pizza out of the back of Kelly's Westport

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<v Speaker 1>in is where it's at late at night.

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<v Speaker 4>That is absolutely correct. Yes, if you want to eat

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<v Speaker 4>something that will also serve as your breakfast, go to

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly's around eleven thirty twelve o'clock.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Early last month, early in July, you were concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>You expressed concern about President Biden's debate performance. There was

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<v Speaker 2>also some concern on your part of coming into Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>for the convention. We didn't want an open convention, is

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<v Speaker 2>what you had said.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>How we're six weeks later. A lot has changed in

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<v Speaker 2>of comfort with the way we the way the party

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have never seen as my fourth I've never

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<v Speaker 4>seen a transformation like I have seen in this election.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I did think that President Biden performed very poorly,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said it openly, and I was one of

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<v Speaker 4>Countess that the can out supporting him in the last election.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm faithful to him. But I'm also a realist,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that we are now experiencing something that

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<v Speaker 4>is rare and new. Enthusiasm is the mother's milk of

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<v Speaker 4>successful politics, and this enthusiasm is just unbelievable. Last night

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<v Speaker 4>was the most emotional political event I've ever been in

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<v Speaker 4>in my life. I don't know if I could take

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<v Speaker 4>another night with President Biden's Daughter's coming out talking about

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<v Speaker 4>her dead. I have one daughter, and I'm sitting a

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<v Speaker 4>big grown man trying to keep from crying. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it was powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't a dry eye in the house. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>even Kamala. I mean, I think that was a really rare,

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<v Speaker 1>of them in terms of what that relationship actually is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And the thing about Joe Biden is that he

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<v Speaker 4>is real. I mean, what you see is what you get.

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<v Speaker 4>And I served with Timmy with Tim Waltz for twelve

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<v Speaker 4>years in the house him quite well, and in some

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<v Speaker 4>ways he's the opposite. I mean, he's just there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he is the political culture's every man. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we can sit up and I argue about football, and

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<v Speaker 4>of course he loses, you know, because it is not

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<v Speaker 4>I tried to take that into consideration. But he is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you don't like Tim Walls, he's just

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<v Speaker 4>something wrong with you. I mean, because you may not

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<v Speaker 4>want to vote for him. But this guy is just

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<v Speaker 4>as real as anybody I've ever seen in politics. And

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<v Speaker 4>as I said, I've worked with him in Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we in California we know of Kamala Harris obviously

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<v Speaker 6>She has a history there.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of her work in San Francisco as a

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<v Speaker 6>What do we need to know about Tim Walls?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if, like you said, not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people know him, but you have worked him for, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, twelve years in Congress, what do we need

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<v Speaker 2>to know about him in terms of making decisions about

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<v Speaker 4>He can be a very serious person, and he is

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<v Speaker 4>coming out of an environment he understands. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a small town, you know, trying to hustle to make

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<v Speaker 4>it in life, and then working on a job. He

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't making much money teaching school and coaching. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they give you an extra thousand dollars if you coach

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<v Speaker 4>and still teach it. I mean, you know. And so

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<v Speaker 4>he understands, you know, the average American and the person

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<v Speaker 4>who's not even average in terms of income. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think you can expect him to also be jovial. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean he you know, I think he could. He could

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<v Speaker 4>look at these balls and find something funny about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's just a kind of guy that you want

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<v Speaker 4>to sit down and have a b with. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>drink beer, but if I did, it would.

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<v Speaker 5>To your point there, Congressman.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like we are in this new era of

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<v Speaker 1>wanting politicians that speak like humans, plane speakers, people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk above our heads. Not no condescension anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, yes, we are there. I think people in this

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<v Speaker 4>country comes to the conclusion that, uh, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>a class in philosophy or theology. You know, we want

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<v Speaker 4>somebody who can be pepeology where where they just come

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<v Speaker 4>out and and be who they.

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<v Speaker 6>Are it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And then because we can relate right Uh when when

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<v Speaker 4>when I was first married, our water was turned off

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<v Speaker 4>We just it was one of the most memorable moments

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<v Speaker 4>I think we had the money, we just didn't pay

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<v Speaker 4>to that, and uh uh, and that's what they want

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<v Speaker 4>in that political leaders. They don't want somebody you know,

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<v Speaker 4>preaching down to them and who is and people who

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<v Speaker 4>are arrogant you know. Uh, look, I'm right and you're wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm intelligence. You're stupid that runs people away. I

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<v Speaker 4>think we bring in more and more people when we

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<v Speaker 4>get people like Waltz, who is just an everyday person. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing fancy about him. What you see is what you get.

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<v Speaker 4>We invited him to Kansas City about five weeks ago

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<v Speaker 4>to speak to a group. Uh Russ Carnahan, who used

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<v Speaker 4>to be in Congress as the chair of our state party,

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<v Speaker 4>invited them in. So we have all these people out

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<v Speaker 4>in this uh auditorium in the Country Club Plaza, which

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<v Speaker 4>is like a significant part of our city. And Tim

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<v Speaker 4>uh and Uh Governor Waltz comes in uh with jeans

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<v Speaker 4>He comes in with jeans and I tell people all

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<v Speaker 4>come in a three piece suit. I mean, kenwo jeans.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the familiarity that you keep trying to refer

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<v Speaker 2>to him as Governor Walls as opposed to Timmy. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>catching that we're talking with Emmanuel Cleaver, the congressman from

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<v Speaker 2>the fight in fifth District than the Kansas City area.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the spirit of unity, I would just like

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I am reaching across the aisle as a

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<v Speaker 5>Ers fan talking to a Chiefs fan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely diplomatic and polite.

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<v Speaker 6>No bad blood was being polite so far?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi. It can be cutting and very

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<v Speaker 4>and Unle Sam Francis goes non for its candy, and

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<v Speaker 4>she gave it to me and she said, enjoy it

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<v Speaker 6>You know, just me That makes me like her far.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've talked about the enthusiasm right that exists around

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic.

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<v Speaker 6>Party and this ticket specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be a point where policy is going to

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<v Speaker 2>become a gigantic issue. Well, I'm hoping as a voter,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that the debates are the kind of place

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<v Speaker 2>where that policy discussion actually takes place.

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<v Speaker 6>But Vice President Harris hasn't had to do much of

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<v Speaker 2>After this week, I mean, this week is probably not

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<v Speaker 2>the right time for policy because it's more of a

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<v Speaker 2>hard down to the needy, gritty types of policy discussions

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<v Speaker 4>I think in about two weeks, she's going to submit

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<v Speaker 4>herself to press conferences. She's going to go on the

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<v Speaker 4>talk shows. She's going to answer all of the questions. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>she's forming her own policies and at the same time

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<v Speaker 4>walking between the rain drops. I mean, she's not going

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<v Speaker 4>to want her to stop at her boss and partner

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<v Speaker 4>for the last almost four years. So I mean it's

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<v Speaker 4>in some bad times. I mean, price gouging is a

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<v Speaker 4>big deal to the economists and to the political class.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we want to debate this and that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's going to bring down the economy and all

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<v Speaker 4>of that. The average American is angry when they know

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<v Speaker 4>that they're being gouged. And so she's going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to go in deeper. She just can't say I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to stop price gouging. She's going to go beneath

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<v Speaker 4>the top layer, and I think she can.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Kleaver, thank you so much for your time today.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a pleasure to meet you. A lot more activity

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<v Speaker 1>today here in Chicago for the d NC, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more politicians making the rounds, a lot more pretty people

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<v Speaker 1>walking around television type.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, not so not so pretty people. But

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<v Speaker 2>who's to judge? There is a lot that's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy is a mirror for Maybe I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was taller.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, no, we interviewed him eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was. Did I have the same impression

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought he was taller?

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<v Speaker 2>We were sitting down before, and also we weren't on

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<v Speaker 2>an elevated stage before.

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<v Speaker 6>You may be you may look at everybody and think

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<v Speaker 6>they're shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks much shorter than I thought that he was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was really tall, was Lester Holt?

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<v Speaker 6>Lester Holt was very tall? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Deblasio was walking through here a little bit earlier.

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<v Speaker 6>He was very tall, Yeah, demure.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Booker was walking around the center from New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Corey Booker was walking around with a they entourage. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was the biggest by far that we that

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen. And he doesn't need it.

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<v Speaker 5>He's built. He's a built man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the guy who will push you out of the

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<v Speaker 2>way if he had to. So tonight, of course, is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be night two of the Democratic National Convention.

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<v Speaker 2>They are looking to shorten the program because last night

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<v Speaker 2>went way late. We saw President Biden speaking well into

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<v Speaker 2>the eleven thirty.

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<v Speaker 6>Hour if you were on the East coast, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually was waiting in my room last night looking

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<v Speaker 2>out the window because the hotel that he and Jill

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<v Speaker 2>stayed in two blocks away, two blocks all from me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and the night before or I guess it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been earlier in the afternoon when they flew in.

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<v Speaker 6>There was a massive convoy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been just ubiquitous sirens throughout the city where the

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<v Speaker 1>part that we're staying in. The protesters did get pretty

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<v Speaker 1>close within I think six blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, yeah, they were outside the Langham or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they if they're going to make any noise,

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<v Speaker 1>they should do it closer to our hotel tonight so

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<v Speaker 1>we can see what's going on without actually having to move.

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<v Speaker 2>You just want to stand in your room looking out

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<v Speaker 2>the window down to.

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<v Speaker 1>The street a reservation for a deep dish pizza place.

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<v Speaker 5>Trust me, you're not gonna want to move.

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<v Speaker 2>So a couple notable absences actually tonight include Vice President

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<v Speaker 2>Harris and Minnesota Governor Tim Walls. They won't even be

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<v Speaker 2>around tonight. They're going to hold a rally at about

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<v Speaker 2>eight o'clock tonight Chicago time.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that kind of.

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<v Speaker 6>Weird VI for your party?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I know that it's not always here the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, but it's like the Obamas are coming to town,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you skip out.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine you'll see both Governor Walls and Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris represented via video.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll do something like that to to I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>people to think that they're gone, all right, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they will be gone. They'll be in Milwaukee at five

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<v Speaker 2>Serve Arena, which is where, of course, the Republicans held

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<v Speaker 2>their convention last month, and too much I mean much

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<v Speaker 2>of a party atmosphere as you could have just a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days after.

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<v Speaker 6>Somebody had tried to kill your candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the crowd size today, it's a big crowd. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest. Maybe that's because the Obamas are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be here. They still they've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of star power going on.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and the event itself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we're talking about the speeches don't even start

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<v Speaker 2>until five o'clock, so they got a late start yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's going to happen again today, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that star power is probably what's going to bring people in.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking at the California delegate breakfast this morning

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<v Speaker 2>with some people who said last night was a very

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<v Speaker 2>late night because if you imagine they left the arena,

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<v Speaker 2>they're basically all in buses or ride share vehicles. It

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<v Speaker 2>takes me to get out of this arena at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the night. And if they were here until

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty last night, they were partying, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>we earles at we earliest wee hours of the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I always leave with a couple of minutes

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<v Speaker 1>left in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 6>That sounds like fun. You're fun at parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, if the game is done, put it

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<v Speaker 1>in refrigerator, you know what I.

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<v Speaker 6>Mean, put it in the refrigerator.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the John Kobel Show is coming up next. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back tomorrow for Day three of the Democratic National

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<v Speaker 2>Convention and whatever sort of adventures we have over the

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<v Speaker 2>next several hours.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna put this show in the refrigerator.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a good idea. Gary and Shannon, we'll see you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 6>Stay dry.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody you've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show,

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