WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:19.079 N M joy I O, we're getting the boots. 2 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:29.000 Hey everybody, it's Tuesday, September thirtieth, twenty twenty five. 3 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:33.119 Holy smokes, tomorrow means it's October. Welcome to the Giant BombCast, 4 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:37.560 Episode nine hundred and ten. We're never gonna forget next 5 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:39.119 week's episode, that's for sure, folks. 6 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:41.320 I'm your host, Jan Old show a joining me co 7 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:45.719 captain of the ship Jeff grau Hey, happy to be here. 8 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:46.000 Jan. 9 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:49.960 We got the master of keys. That's right. He is 10 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:54.399 our own key blade enthusiast and keyboard enthusiast. Move over, 11 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.000 Jeff backlar, there's a new key berber in town. 12 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:00.920 Dan Record. I bought this whole keyboard cling kit with 13 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.439 the intentions of this being how I cleaned my keyboard, 14 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:05.840 and I wound up just using like, you know, like 15 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:08.519 a reverse vacuum cleaner. There's like that just cleaned it 16 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.000 all up so I didn't even have to use this thing, 17 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.319 the air sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, I just blew 18 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:15.519 all the gunk out of there. Whids My keyboard was filthy, 19 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.280 but it's hey, right in time, it's back to operating condition. 20 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:25.159 Well, fantastic, right in record time. Right speaking about record 21 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:29.280 oh there we go right right, Kurt time. Okay uh. 22 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.599 And speaking about Gunk, we got the bad boy of 23 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:33.599 games media. 24 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:36.920 He's blowing your house is down with all of his 25 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:39.719 hot air and his hot takes about Detroit Prime for 26 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:43.400 in the Desert, Mike Manati. 27 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:44.400 It's me. 28 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:46.920 It's Mike Manatt. Have I been to the desert? Just 29 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.560 that one you have to drive to to like go 30 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:55.560 to Las Vegas with name. That's a good song, right, 31 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:58.040 people probably think that song's cringe now or something. I 32 00:01:58.040 --> 00:01:59.040 don't know, what's. 33 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:03.159 You know, in all these games like you're uncharted and 34 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:05.439 you're gotta wars and stuff, and movies where somebody's like 35 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.640 inevitably like kind of going through the desert and they're 36 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.319 just like really rough in it and just trying to 37 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:11.719 get to water or lan, I think you would be 38 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:15.479 really bad at that, Mike. I agree. 39 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.039 I think I would drop first, for sure. 40 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:20.560 Son, you walk up a slight hill to go to 41 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:22.840 a retro store and complain for thirty minutes, do you 42 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:26.639 want it? I had COVID then we found out later 43 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:28.560 that didn't help. 44 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:32.439 Yeah, I had, But I still agree, but I would 45 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:36.319 not make it. I would get way too hot, probably, faint, 46 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:38.439 whine a lot, and then die. 47 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:41.319 Anyway. 48 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.039 Yeah, that expedited very quickly, Mike. I think you could 49 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:45.400 last a bit longer than that. 50 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:48.960 I keep it. Last night, I didn't die. I saw 51 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:50.479 a lot in the sun and didn't die last night. 52 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.000 Well, we have email. I tell you what day. 53 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:55.919 After watching you try to put your keybody together, I'm 54 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:57.159 not going to say I wish you did. 55 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:06.240 It might have been spared some headache reading in the sauna. 56 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.520 Probably my kindling the sauna, which you're probably not supposed 57 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:10.240 to do, but I did that. So I'm reading at 58 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.080 night in the shower. You do thirty minutes and I'm 59 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:14.240 reading Kurt Vonnegut in the sauna. 60 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:17.840 Oh that's pretty good. Yeah, k von and your your 61 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:20.840 kindle are probably sweatproof. I don't know, you're probably already 62 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:21.599 it's waterproof. 63 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.840 It's probably fine. So yeah, it's been nice. I'm reading 64 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:25.759 good thing to do before bed instead of like now 65 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:28.080 megabong for six hours right before I try to sleep. 66 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:30.919 Dan, are you like playing music in there while you're 67 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:32.439 reading and sauna out. 68 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:34.520 Because it's got the bluetooth gimmick and so I just 69 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.639 put on like a Spotify just like you know, ooh 70 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:38.719 spot playlist type thing where it's just like, you know, 71 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:40.120 what do you think it would be? 72 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.639 I asked this, Dan because at the end of Mike's 73 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:47.280 Hades two through the Night's stream, we were all on 74 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:50.560 the call together and UH, you were going to go 75 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.439 leave to have night time sauna time. But you could 76 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.680 have connected us to the UH to the sauna because 77 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.120 of the bluetooth, but you didn't want to be naked 78 00:03:59.199 --> 00:03:59.879 talking to us. 79 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:02.879 H No, I thought that would be weird. Yeah, because 80 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.919 I am naked in the sauna and it's like, I mean, 81 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:07.599 you wouldn't be able to see it, obviously, but your 82 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:09.080 voices would be coming through there. I just don't want 83 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:10.719 to talk to you guys while I'm just sitting there 84 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:11.719 sweating with my dog out. 85 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.680 You know, I get this when I am listening to 86 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:17.879 a podcast, when I sit down to do a number two, 87 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:20.480 when the poop starts coming out, I have to pause 88 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.480 it because I just can't hear people I know or 89 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:25.000 even are acquainted with while the poop is coming out 90 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:25.199 of it. 91 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.879 I'm gonna miss Backlart today. 92 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.079 Mike, you were on this podcast where Backlar was too 93 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:34.360 busy to do it, so. 94 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:39.560 You're gonna have to deal with it. Well, it was 95 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:41.519 weird because we were doing the Haiti stream. We were 96 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:44.319 all just on Discord and Greub was describing stuff in 97 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.079 baby Steps and uh so I went in and I 98 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.079 just turned on my sauna to kind of preheat it 99 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.720 before I went in, and apparently that activated my Bluetooth 100 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:53.759 which was connect to my phone, and so out of 101 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.759 my sauna chamber, I hear Grub's voice saying yeah, and 102 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:58.720 then the guys with the Donkey Dicks want cigarettes. 103 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:04.759 Jesus Christ Auto that should play with Jeff goes into 104 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:05.680 a Discord channel. 105 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:10.279 It's all just true. That's what that game is about. 106 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.079 That playlist for some reason. 107 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.959 Totally yeah, yeah, the AI DJ does that. I think 108 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.680 your sauna Dan should have a function to like clip, 109 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:24.199 you know, like, oh that was a funny clip. 110 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:25.519 Should yeah, hey. 111 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.680 Yeah, I want I came in. I think I've been 112 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.759 upset this whole weekend. Not for the normal reasons why 113 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:35.959 I'm upset, for different reasons. Fun cameras are so boring now, 114 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:40.160 y'all like video cameras, because I mean, most of my 115 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.480 most used camera other than the one here in front 116 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.240 of me, is not like any of the fancy ones 117 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:47.279 that I bought over time. 118 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.480 It's just my phone, right, And I was. 119 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:53.600 Just staring at old I say old, but like two 120 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:58.120 thousands cam quarters and digital cameras from like the early odds, 121 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:02.000 and I wound up. I almost bought a lot of 122 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:09.120 questionably used flipcams from Goodwill over the weekend, just because 123 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.480 I was like, man, cameras used to look so fucking sick. 124 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:16.519 Like sool flipcam eric is like when I was doing 125 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:18.319 a bunch of like high school video production stuff, it 126 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:20.279 was just kind of handheld cannons and Sony's and the 127 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:22.079 screen up flip out, and then the bit with the 128 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:24.879 rich kids had the three CCD cameras. I remember, I 129 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:26.600 don't know those are still a thing, but they would 130 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:28.279 have been with a handle and the big thing and 131 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.160 it was like a three CCD. I forget what that means, 132 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:30.800 but I never. 133 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.480 Heard oh yeah, yeah. 134 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:37.240 Yeah, Marino, I almost points out I almost bought or 135 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.839 I was really looking at a Sony Mavica because it 136 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:44.680 still uses floppy discs instead of memory cards, just because 137 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:48.800 it was like right at the cutoff for I guess 138 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:54.040 SD cards or memory sticks being a big thing. Also, Man, 139 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.800 I hate and maybe this is because I now finally 140 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:02.720 understand y'all with a collecting right, because now I just 141 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:07.040 want to collect nothing but old video cameras. I saw 142 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:11.560 this old Sony hand cam that's I think it was 143 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.879 like Sony s C five, and it. 144 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:16.439 Just looks so fucking sick. 145 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:19.079 But then you look on eBay, you look at all 146 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:22.360 these different online resellers, and it's like up the wazoo 147 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.720 five hundred plus. So now I have it in me 148 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:29.360 that I need to drive through different parts of America 149 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:32.959 going through thrift stores looking for old digital cameras or 150 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:34.800 hitting up people that have died. 151 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:37.920 I guess a family of people the same sales. Well, 152 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:39.519 the thing with the state sales is because I keep 153 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.240 an eye on that whole thing, and it's like they're 154 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:43.920 all kind of the same. They're all a bunch of 155 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.839 just like old plates with a bunch of designs on them. 156 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.680 It's a bunch of musty chairs with like velvet backs. 157 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.000 It's a bunch of like frame stuff of like a 158 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:54.079 bunch of guys on horses or something. It's just like 159 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:57.000 or like weird old dolls. Some of them are racist. 160 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:59.319 Like it's just kind of the same thing. So it's 161 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.759 like everyone, well, you'll get lucky, and it's like, you know, 162 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.560 a younger person died and then they'll have like DVDs 163 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:14.519 and stuff. You know, they weren't so lucky. It's the problem. Yeah, 164 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.319 I mean, the old people don't have GameCube games and ships, 165 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:18.759 so you're just every once in a while you get 166 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:28.040 lucky exactly a rule, and we die fun man, Okay, 167 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.480 you know what I was gonna never mind. Uh. 168 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.720 Anyway, old video cameras, the designs used to be really cool. 169 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:36.919 Now they're all just boring. 170 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.799 This weekend, that was the part of of like my 171 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.159 wedding was like just getting one of those flip cans 172 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.080 and putting them at every table, and that was basically 173 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.039 our videography was just letting people on each table film stuff, 174 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:49.919 and we just got all the footage later and kind 175 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:50.639 of clipped it together. 176 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:52.600 It was that that was a good time and you 177 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:53.080 got I. 178 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:55.120 Mean, I guess you could just do that still. I'm 179 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.639 sure there's the equivalent, but I don't know there. At 180 00:08:57.639 --> 00:08:59.440 that point, that was like a really fun and exciting 181 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:01.759 thing because those were still relatively. 182 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:02.120 New at that moment. 183 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:06.039 All cameras called things like the P two nine and 184 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.399 the F one, like they didn't have fun names, like 185 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.559 none of them was called like the Cipher. 186 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:16.159 The Cannons had like cyber shot for a while, they 187 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.440 would they would still also have like the you know, 188 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:20.320 the letter denominations as well. 189 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:22.360 Right, it'd be like the Cimer shot line. 190 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.799 You know, yes, I feel like the flip cams. It 191 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:26.879 was like there was like the z I eight or 192 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.000 something like that, though maybe that. 193 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:29.960 Was a different make model. I don't know. It was 194 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:30.679 hard to keep straight. 195 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.879 And I say this because I thought about getting back 196 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.320 into film photography because I'm just moving a bunch of 197 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:40.120 my cameras around. And I remember I looked up the 198 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.600 price of film, like rolls of film again. 199 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.200 And oh man, it's too costly to even pick up 200 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:48.519 oh actual That's when I said I'm not going to class. 201 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.440 When I went to my first film production class and 202 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:51.879 they're like, all right, so here's the form to fill 203 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:55.000 out to order how many feet of actual film you want? 204 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:57.039 And I saw the costume. I'm never showing up in 205 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:57.679 this class. 206 00:09:57.399 --> 00:10:00.200 Ever, Oh yeah, to be. I wonder how many more 207 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.559 years of that class until they stopped doing that, because 208 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:03.679 it can't do that now, right. 209 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.519 No, But he's gonna that was two days or so. 210 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.480 There's there's probably there probably is a class where it's like, hey, 211 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:11.159 you want to work with film, but it's probably separate 212 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.679 from that, like mainline track, I would imagine at this point. 213 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:17.159 Yeah, because I took an audio recording class at my 214 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:21.360 local community maybe in like twenty ten, and I had 215 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:25.080 to edit reel to reel still for that. I don't 216 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:27.000 know if that was just for like for poops and 217 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:30.240 giggles or if that was just like, h, we're community college, 218 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:30.960 this is all we have. 219 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:34.559 I started on a Casa Blanca editing machine and probably 220 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:36.960 like ninety six ninety seven, and that was like real 221 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:41.120 to real, like like VHS. It was insane name hell. Yeah, 222 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:43.480 So you had like two big knobs and stuff and 223 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:45.399 you're picking your endpoints and your out points like these 224 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:47.759 big knobs and stuff vhs to the left, you put 225 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:49.039 a blank one on the right, and you're kind of 226 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:50.320 like so much fun. 227 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.799 Could you find dissolves or anything? It was just pure 228 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:53.440 hard cuts. 229 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:55.559 I think you could do dissolves, yeah, because like the 230 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:57.399 first few like short films that I made were on that, 231 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:58.639 and that definitely I wonder how they did. 232 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:02.679 That's really you whoever came up with the first star wipe, 233 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.879 like they should have a Nobel Peace prize, Like, oh yeah, 234 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.639 thank you for your contribution to some site. 235 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:10.519 Like you coming up with the ability to do the 236 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:14.799 chroma key stuff. Now it's like this chemical will dissolve 237 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.639 this color of green and blue specifically, and so if 238 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.120 we do that to this film stock, we can then 239 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:23.039 get rid of that and key in this other stuff 240 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.840 at the bad Like that's just crazy shit, Like it's 241 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:27.360 so it makes so much more sense to me that 242 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.399 it works in a computer than it ever worked with film. 243 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:33.720 And then like remembering that film is just basically like 244 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.080 everything else, it's either uh, some weird metal or like 245 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.080 with a film's case, it's pig bones again, it's gelatine, 246 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.360 it's collagen. Oh that's how they actually make film. It's like, okay, yeah, 247 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:45.759 of course everything's pig bones. It all goes back to that. 248 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:50.360 It's very bones. Yeah, we think the pig bones. Hey, 249 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.919 speaking of film, I got some flak over the weekend 250 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.720 for for re buttering my popcorn. Yeah, okay, this isn't 251 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:00.519 that crazy a thing, is it. You guys have seen 252 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:01.679 movies in the theaters. 253 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.399 It's not too crazy, Dan, But I think the part 254 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:10.399 that was not upsetting me but worrying me is the 255 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:11.879 sheer amount of butter. 256 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:12.919 Yeah, like you. 257 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:14.600 I think the reason you might have got flack is 258 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:17.679 you said you went in for the initial buttering forty 259 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:18.279 five seconds. 260 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.919 But there's probably like two cups of that AMC butter 261 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:22.519 I put in for the first time. But when you 262 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:25.279 write a larrange that when you get a large mic. 263 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:27.360 When you get a large once you get down about halfway, 264 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:29.360 it's like it didn't creep all the way down there, 265 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:34.279 so you shim the bottom of that thing. It was heaping. 266 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:35.840 You can't shake that much. I tried to do some 267 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:37.879 shaking and you'd get the odd like, oh this one 268 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:39.200 had some good butter on it. But then it's like 269 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.080 I got half this tub in front of me and 270 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.480 it's all dry ass popcorn. And I got to pay 271 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.360 four times a movie anyway, So I went I re buttered. 272 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:47.679 I put another cups in there. 273 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.480 You butter yourself at AMC. I can't remember. Like some 274 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:53.120 places you have fast but take it out thank God, 275 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:55.879 so they give it to you can't have it halfway through. 276 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.039 You can't have it halfway through. And then butter it 277 00:12:58.039 --> 00:12:59.799 and then fill it up the rest and butter on 278 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:00.799 top because you have this whole. 279 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.559 Our places do here, so it's fine, like they just 280 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:03.960 do that. 281 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:07.639 You can't do that if you get the whole full thing. 282 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:09.879 What are you gonna do with half of the popcorns? 283 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.279 Have the side and then, yeah, we had. 284 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:14.039 The ability to do when I worked at AMC in 285 00:13:14.120 --> 00:13:16.399 like the late nineties, it was like we had the 286 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:19.279 stuff behind the concession stands, so people would ask sometimes 287 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.000 can you do the halfway fill? And we knew what 288 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:23.080 that meant, you know, But then once they put it 289 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:24.639 out there, it's kind of on you and you do 290 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:26.200 on your movie and re butter. 291 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:30.240 Yeah, I think it's weird. I think it's a little 292 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:34.480 strange after forty five seconds of butter if it's like 293 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.080 you just kind of can't live with a few pieces 294 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:38.759 being not perfectly buttered. 295 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:42.759 I don't know, I want them all to be soggy. Now, yeah, okay, yeah. 296 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.120 Okay, I mean you know, I'm not saying you have 297 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.279 to be super self conscious, but clearly this this one 298 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:49.279 has to scare. 299 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:49.720 You a little. 300 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:51.879 It's just it's weird to me that you were afraid 301 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:53.960 of your keyboard electricinning you because he took a key 302 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:57.879 cap off, but not of clogging your arteries with literal 303 00:13:58.519 --> 00:13:59.960 like cups of fake. 304 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:02.320 I've been electrocuted, and I know what that feels like, 305 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:04.519 and that scares me because that hurts. I've never clogged 306 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:09.159 an artery, so a heart attack is bad. Yeah, I 307 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.320 just don't know if it hurts, so it's less scary. 308 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:14.279 I guess. I'm pretty sure it's both of those, if 309 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:16.279 not more, probably hurts. It probably hurts. 310 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:18.080 Yeah, And then you also said, like you were getting 311 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.679 flak from from us, sayink kind of. Mike went in 312 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.440 on this because you were like, hey, you guys will 313 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.559 check your phone during a movie and you're on home, 314 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.360 but I will leave the theater to co pee and 315 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:32.279 then a few extra minutes to go re butter the popcorn. 316 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:35.279 And then you said it's not part of thing. You said, 317 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.559 that's part of the movie going experience. And it's like, 318 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:41.320 so watching the movie is less important than this one. 319 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.799 I'm saying, being at home and opting to look at 320 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:48.960 something else other than the thing you're trying to pay 321 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:51.919 attention to is very different than like I have to 322 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:53.919 pee or I need to kind of get some food 323 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:56.159 or something like you don't have the option to pause 324 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:57.360 or whatever, sure need. 325 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.399 I think maybe the other thing people took issue with 326 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:05.120 Dan is maybe getting up to leave during a Pta movie, 327 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:09.120 just because like Pta is one of those people that 328 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.759 are film bros take very seriously. 329 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:14.799 And I see some of my favorite movies are from him. Yeah, 330 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.039 I got back in Ben Hanson whisper. I won't say it, 331 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.120 but Ben Hanson whispered blank happened. It was very cool 332 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.320 and so apparently I picked the worst possible time too, 333 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:24.519 and it sounded very cool. And I've not been able 334 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.360 to find a clip of what happened because the movie's 335 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:28.039 not Pirate of anywhere that I can see. I do. 336 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.679 Look, I sympathize with the bathroom thing. That's why I 337 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:34.279 actually I like all these old movies just going back 338 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:36.480 to theaters because I could just see something I've seen 339 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:38.600 ten times that I know I like, and if I 340 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.120 had to go and pee, that's okay. I've seen this 341 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:42.000 movie before. 342 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:42.639 It's fine. 343 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:45.960 It's not some stressful thing. I'm not sitting there desperately 344 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.600 holding it and being uncomfortable like I saw who Friend 345 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.279 Roger Rabbit this weekend. That was a good time. In fact, 346 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:53.039 I was the opposite of you. 347 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.639 I got. Maybe part of my problem dan empathizing. 348 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.080 Is that I like the movie theater popcorn, but I 349 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.480 get over it pretty quickly. I'll get a small and 350 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:05.039 then halfway through it, I'm kind of like I'll get shorty. 351 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:07.679 Well, now let me paint the picture a little more 352 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.080 so you understand my plate. So it was a six 353 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.000 fifteen movie. Okay, that's a weird time because you're leaving 354 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:15.879 before that. Normally I'm having dinner closer to six thirty seven, 355 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:18.799 so I hadn't had dinner. Okay, it's a three hour 356 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.480 long movie. So we get like halfway into the movie. 357 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:24.720 I'm a rumbling there and I will go for my 358 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:27.159 second pee break and I walk in the bathroom. I 359 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.039 don't know if somebody brought the popcorn in the bathroom, 360 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.480 but I got a big whiff of that popcorn, and 361 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.720 my brain activated was like I need that now. I 362 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.000 normally don't get popcorn to the theater maybe one ten times, 363 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:39.320 but I was like very hungry and then I smelled 364 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:42.320 that and it's like, well, I'm going to get popcorn. Yeah. 365 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.519 I never had that popcorn satiate my hanger. I got 366 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:46.919 to become a theater nacho guy exclusively. 367 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:49.320 I think that's kind of something. 368 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:51.840 About, well, yeah, you're right, they're not as easy to 369 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.799 eat that. Popcorn is the perfect movie snack we associate 370 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:56.919 with movies. It's just kind of fun to go in there. 371 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:57.559 I get it. 372 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:59.399 That's why I always see myself going there. Don't be 373 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:00.840 a pickle guy, as long as you're not giving that 374 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:02.600 bag of pickle jan what do you get? 375 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.559 No, no, no, no, the yeah. I have not seen that, 376 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.720 but I believe it. What the hell are you talking about? 377 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:13.200 It's literally it's like a pickle in like a plastic 378 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:17.319 sleeve filled with the pickle. People take it to the theater, 379 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:20.400 stink up the whole place, and are just eating this 380 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:27.599 giant stylic pickle. It's disgusting. I made a friend set 381 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.519 away from me the one time, like, you're not saying 382 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.039 next to me at that thing, get out of here. Uh. 383 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.119 I love popcorn. 384 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:37.319 Popcorn is maybe one of my top five foods, but 385 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.720 I think the perfect food to consume during a movie. 386 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.720 Is a hot dog. That's good. Yeah, you know. 387 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:46.920 We used to go to Alamo Draft House and the 388 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.680 perfect food was whatever meal the chef decided to serve 389 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:51.519 with any of those like specialty screens. 390 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:52.720 I went with one time. 391 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.000 It was just like beef brisket and whiskey while we 392 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.000 were watching True Grit, and that was That's the best 393 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.160 shit you can have during the movie in my opinion. 394 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:03.359 Okay, I want to build on this. This is more 395 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:04.799 of a mic check question. We should get to the 396 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:08.079 actual pod soon. What is what is the chef's meal 397 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:10.200 for the bomb cast? 398 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:15.960 Ooh, the chef's meal especially hair with the podcast. 399 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:20.200 Oh oh, it is hot dogs at some point, right. 400 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:27.640 And paps ribbon dogs and buzzballs. Fuck that ship, Pat 401 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:33.240 Blue Ribbon. I was centophile. I'm a I'm on a 402 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:35.119 run though, because that was Sunday night. I had the 403 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:37.160 large popcorn for dinner, and well, here's the thing I 404 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:38.880 told myself, I was gonna get a small popcorn because 405 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:40.200 it's like I'm trying to eat healthier. And I went 406 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:41.720 out there and I'm looking at the prices and I'm like, 407 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.279 the only economical option here is to spend twenty five 408 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:50.240 dollars on the large cooke, larger popcorn and candy back change. 409 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.359 You say you weren't a mark or whatever the phrase 410 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:54.400 was there with the chimney. 411 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:57.920 And literally that is the most buffaloed that is. I 412 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:02.079 mean they, I mean the most economical. I know, it 413 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.920 was like a dollar, Dan. They literally it's called the 414 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:10.000 medium popcorn thing where it's like they literally, so you 415 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.920 have the thought the only economical thing is to spend 416 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:14.000 the maximum amount of. 417 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.400 Money like you you got. I'm sorry, I don't want 418 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:21.000 to love well here, I think I think last night, 419 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.799 so the runo was on was pop worn and high 420 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:25.839 dinner on Sunday. And last night I had friends over 421 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.039 for ann As competition and a doubleheader of Dirty Work, 422 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:32.759 the dirtier version and Naked Gun and we got Jets pizza. 423 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:35.200 Like I got an eight corner turbo crust. We've got 424 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:36.880 a four corner turbo crust. We got a triple two 425 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:37.960 turbo sticks. Yeah. 426 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.400 That's another thing, Dan, that I wanted to to talk about, 427 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.119 is it's just a casual observer. I feel like eight 428 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:47.200 times in the last month you told Jeff getting Jets 429 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:47.960 pizza again. 430 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:50.640 I need him to love TURBOI crust. 431 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:52.400 This makes me feel good, it does. 432 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.839 I've just gave credit. My friends were over. I was like, 433 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:57.759 this is Jeff Grubb introduced me to this. You gotta try. 434 00:19:58.319 --> 00:19:59.799 Grew up in the Midwest and they had never heard 435 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:02.119 of it. Now I've got more jets people here, that's 436 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:05.440 right and left over taking over the world. I two 437 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:07.880 giant pieces for breakfast. Just now. I got more dinner. 438 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:10.759 It's good in the morning. It is, Man's good. 439 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:13.000 We didn't get We usually get pize s fried. If 440 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:14.279 we didn't do it last week, I don't have to 441 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:16.079 do it this week. Man, that's good stuff. I'm not 442 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.640 the triple cheese turbo bread. 443 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:20.519 Is that we said? Turbo sticks with an X? 444 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:25.200 Maybe the best the name of food and Idiocracy, but. 445 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:31.759 It could also be cool cameras though to hear that, 446 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.039 Michael is prazy to hear that. When I saw Ideocracy, 447 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:35.640 there are so many things in the movie, I was like, 448 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:40.359 I'd be into this. Yeah, balls and stuff. 449 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:43.799 That's just Costco to get a sauna. 450 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:48.440 Yeah, you'd be fine. I was sitting in that Costco 451 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:55.400 sauna filled with turbo sticks last night and beer. Yeah 452 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:59.559 you know what I do? See you buttering popcorn? Yeah? 453 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:07.440 Well, let's uh talk about a very tonally similar game 454 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:12.039 as to Dan's popcorn debacle. Oh real quick, Dan, did 455 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:13.519 you like one battle after another? 456 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:16.400 Yeah? It's very good, very very good. To see it 457 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:17.079 again because I. 458 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:20.359 Need to check it out my movie going experience. This 459 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:22.799 weekend I went and saw Demon Slayer in Infinity Castle. 460 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.319 Very good, obscenely long. I don't need to make it. 461 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:28.079 Yes, that's the party anime. 462 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:30.920 Yeah, but this one depressed me to like the Mario 463 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:31.759 Party Game. 464 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.279 Actually, yes, yeah, probably. 465 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:37.200 I saw the movie this weekend as well. There's no 466 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:38.640 way you guys would guess what it is. It is 467 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:42.839 a kid's movie, Land Before Time three. 468 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:45.799 Now, Dan got it the thin line. That's right. It was. 469 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:51.119 It was Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie my nieces saw that. 470 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:55.519 Uh yeah, yeah, how go there, let's got a voice 471 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:57.599 cast though, that's got a cast on it. 472 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:00.599 Yeah, it was. It was. It was well made. You know. 473 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:03.799 We came out and he goes and she's I don't 474 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:05.480 know where she gets this from. I give it a 475 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:07.240 nine out of ten. It's not as good as K 476 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:09.319 pop Demon Hunters, so I'm like, okay. 477 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.000 But you talk about kids movies the way I talk 478 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:16.440 about musical theaters. It was well made, they were talent. 479 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.279 I am immune to this stuff. I've seen so much 480 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:22.680 garbage YouTube at this point. None of these movies could 481 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:23.039 hurt me. 482 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.279 Uh well, Grub, I was thinking about you and the 483 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:29.720 kids today because of the patience factor because I was 484 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.559 watching you stream Baby Steps sor Jane, I hope it. 485 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.000 I was watching and I could not look away. I mean, 486 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.640 that's what the nature of that game is, like, any 487 00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:40.799 step could be the one that sends you plummeting. And 488 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:43.440 I thought, like, I was thinking about how I respect 489 00:22:43.440 --> 00:22:45.599 this game so deeply. Baby Steps. I think it's so 490 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.359 cool what it is. But the first time I fell 491 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:50.880 and lost a bit of progress, I thought it was 492 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:52.440 a ton when I did it, But then watching you 493 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:54.759 and others play, it's like, oh, that was nothing, And 494 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:56.400 I immediately put the controller arounds, like this is not 495 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:58.200 for me to play. I can't do this. And then 496 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:02.640 seeing you just think about every fucking step I cannot 497 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:05.720 play that game, But holy shit, do I respect it? Yeah? 498 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.200 Towing around, Uh, Grub, please tell us more about your 499 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:11.519 Baby Steps adventures. You've been streaming it on the website 500 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.440 for folks that may have missed it, and also for 501 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:16.480 folks that may have missed it. We continued the streak, 502 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:19.039 Baby we took down kind of funny again? 503 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:28.920 Oh yeah, yeah. Consolation for sure. Why did I play shot? 504 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:32.960 Shouts out to the kind of funny crew for for 505 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:35.599 putting that together with us. That was that was really 506 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:38.519 tense and a good time I got. I got a 507 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:39.640 little frustrated. 508 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:40.799 Though, because as soon as we were done with the stream, 509 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:44.160 I discovered there's a Day one multiplayer mod, so we 510 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:46.960 all could have just been in there together playing playing 511 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:47.200 the game. 512 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:48.759 An official multiplayer thing. 513 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.359 Not it's not official. Maybe it's official, but like it's 514 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:53.799 a mod. But yeah, it's multiplayer and you can get 515 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:55.599 in there and everyone could just play together at least 516 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:56.599 you see each other. 517 00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:00.880 Yeah, yeah you can. Can you fuck with each other? Yeah? 518 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:04.559 I think absolutely you can. Yes, yeah, definitely. Okay, well 519 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:06.200 like a foot race and stuff. Yeah, that would be 520 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:07.720 a good time. I aw that. 521 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.640 I am on the man breaker in Baby Steps, which 522 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.039 is it got its name on account of how many 523 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:16.920 men it has broken, is what the character tells you. 524 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.640 And it's it's very funny. 525 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:21.160 Because this is it's basically the end of the game, 526 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:24.359 and you know, I've done a lot, I got lost 527 00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:26.960 a bunch of times. I already really love this game, 528 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:29.720 and then you get to this point where you've taken 529 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:33.599 this character Nate, who is clearly depressed and and and 530 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.440 and kind of aimless, and you know all the things 531 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.279 you could just tell kind of looking at him, like 532 00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.640 what's going on in his life? But they also play 533 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:43.440 home those facts, like there's a phone call halfway through 534 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:46.640 the game with your father who who explains, hey, buddy, 535 00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:49.799 the family's getting together to celebrate your sister's promotion. We 536 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:51.279 really just kind of want you to be there. Can 537 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:54.279 you not wear sweatpants? And you're like, okay, yeah, this 538 00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:57.559 character is just like, can't really get it together even 539 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:00.279 enough to like show up to something like that. And 540 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.519 yet if you put one step in front of the other, 541 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.480 look how far you can get in this game in life. 542 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:09.799 It's clearly a metaphor. They really nail that aspect of it. 543 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:13.200 And then they bring you up to this this stairs 544 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:15.559 staircase at the end of the game, and it is 545 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:17.720 a spiral staircase. It might as well be that metal 546 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:21.119 gear solid three ladder, but for stairs, and it just 547 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:22.920 goes up and up and up and up, and as 548 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.240 you approach it, the guy Bennett Foddy's character comes up 549 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.519 to you and say, hey, buddy, you know you should 550 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:31.559 just you should just take these stairs. I built these stairs, 551 00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:33.559 and you know, then Nate looks to the right and 552 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:36.799 need's the character and there is some rocks a mountain 553 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:38.599 and he's like, no, I'm gonna go this way. 554 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:39.279 I'm gonna go up that. 555 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:40.960 He's like that, that's the man breaker. It's you know, 556 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:43.039 God's name on a canter five many minutes broken. You 557 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.599 should take the stairs, and clearly they're setting up like, 558 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:48.519 if you have any sort of pride in what you've 559 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:50.799 done so far, you should go up to the man breaker. 560 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:56.400 But it's really hard. It's so hard. It is. It is. 561 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.519 Every single step is challenging. But there are The really 562 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.839 challenging thing is you do get into a flow, you'd 563 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.440 start to figure it out, and then the game will 564 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.640 like throw a change up pitch where it's like you 565 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.839 have gotten into this flow, now let's do a different 566 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.920 kind of steps. So you have been carefully placing the 567 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:18.319 foot a few inches away and you're doing these stutter steps, 568 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:21.319 and you have that's really secure. If you do that, 569 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:23.319 like you're you're probably gonna be pretty stable and be 570 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:26.359 able to get across just about any terrain. And you 571 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:28.319 start to rely on that, like, hey, okay, if I 572 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.440 just keep doing this, I'm going to be fine. Oh no, 573 00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:34.079 now here is a huge gap that I'm gonna have 574 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.039 to like do a big step for, and I'm a 575 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:39.519 little out of practice, and that's like a very harrowing, 576 00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:41.319 tense thing now to pull off. 577 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:43.160 And it's like you get in your head and you 578 00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:44.480 kind of can't. In this game. 579 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:46.960 You have to sort of just act without thinking. It 580 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.480 is a feel sort of game, like you have to 581 00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:52.680 just feel your way through these steps. And so every 582 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.759 time you get to one of these moments, it is terrifying. 583 00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.200 And that happens like they're probably about ten times on 584 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.640 your way up the maner, these moments of okay, now 585 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:04.880 we have to try another different big kind of step 586 00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:07.279 and figure things out, and eventually you do come up 587 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:10.119 with strategies for these things. Then there's like ones where 588 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.480 it's like, okay, now this is a big step and 589 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:17.079 a big step down, and there's a clear rock slide 590 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.960 here where if you miss, you could you could just 591 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.799 see how it's gonna go wrong. Now, I've done that 592 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.559 one twice and I have not fallen down either time. 593 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:28.319 Or I did fall down, but I fell down on 594 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.799 the like one rock that if you fall on that 595 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.359 you'll be able to stop yourself from completely calamitously losing 596 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:38.000 this run. And I'm just I'm thinking about that spot 597 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:40.799 so much right now because I did fall after getting 598 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.200 pretty much all the way to the end. I have 599 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.319 to do the whole thing again, and it's like that 600 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.359 thing is sticking in my head of like I don't 601 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.440 know if I get up there and I start like 602 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:51.640 if I mess up that spot, i might never never 603 00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:54.559 be able to do it again. It's so scary to 604 00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:56.279 get to that moment and try to overcome it, and 605 00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:58.319 yet like I do feel like what choice do I have. 606 00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.720 There's no fucking way and those stairs, no way I'm 607 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:03.759 doing that. I have to get up the man breaker. 608 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.720 It's uh, it is. It's the exact right kind of 609 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.000 game for me where I can get into that that 610 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:13.039 I'm gonna try again. I will shut my brain off, 611 00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:14.799 I will just do the next thing. And then I 612 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:16.720 do go on tilt and it gets really bad and 613 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:18.839 I'm falling on like the first ten steps and things 614 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.599 like that. But there's something about like overcoming that or 615 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.000 putting the controller down and coming back later and having 616 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:26.759 your best run yet on your first like return try 617 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.400 after like setting it down for a day. It has 618 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.720 been fun to stream. People are are are into it. 619 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.440 I'm uh, and I'm gonna stick with it until I 620 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:34.160 can figure it out. 621 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.960 I have two questions for Dan. One, Yeah, did you 622 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.519 understand the metaphor in this game? Dwn? And two would 623 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:42.880 you just take those stairs? 624 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.079 I don't know if I would play to that point, 625 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:48.480 so I don't even think I would get there. I 626 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.480 think if I took the time to actually get there, 627 00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.279 I would probably feel compelled to take the man Breaker, 628 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:56.240 just because, like, if I spent that much time, i'd 629 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.440 want to beat it, right, you know, I didn't pick 630 00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:00.079 up on a metaphor. 631 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.599 Yeah that's okay. Yeah, I don't ever mind that you 632 00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.240 don't pick up on a metaphor. What I don't want 633 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.920 is did you just say did they intend that? Did 634 00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:10.519 they mean that? 635 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:10.839 Is that? 636 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:10.920 What? 637 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.599 It's something they like meant for you to get? 638 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:14.200 Because I don't care about any of that. Like, this 639 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.240 is how I feel about the game, and I do 640 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:18.920 think they probably did intend. 641 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.000 Many of these metaphors. 642 00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:21.920 But things that I'm getting out of it are just 643 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.519 so potent and it's so like emotional, like I really 644 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.200 do feel like, oh my god, like it really, you know, 645 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.880 because that's how I feel I got to this point 646 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:32.640 in life putting one step in front of the other. 647 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.720 Like if you asked me, like, how did you plan 648 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:35.240 to get here? 649 00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:36.039 I fucking didn't. 650 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.720 I have no idea how I got to this job, 651 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.440 how I got this family, how I got any of 652 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.160 these things in my life. I just kind of did 653 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.640 one step after the other because what other choice do 654 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.799 you have? And the game just really hones in on 655 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.200 that feeling in such a powerful way that, yeah, it's 656 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.000 it is up there for my on my Game of 657 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.359 the Year list, Like I'm like already like placing up 658 00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.559 there in the top three, top top five for sure. 659 00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.039 I'm kind of surprise that go ahead. Sorry no no, 660 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:03.440 I please please no. 661 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:05.599 I want a mod for the game where there's a 662 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.680 monkey on your back, just along for the ride, so 663 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:10.799 like it can be like how I got my life? 664 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:20.119 Yet Yeah, a lot just actually literally on my coattails. 665 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.640 I was going to say that I'm kind of surprised 666 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.000 at how much this game has been picking up steam. 667 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.839 Amongst our circles. I thought he was part of me. 668 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:31.559 Was just going to be dismissive of it and think 669 00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.559 it's like oh there's another funny haha stream. 670 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:35.960 I thought most people would dismiss it too, Yes. 671 00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.759 But seeing that there are there's a lot more juice 672 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.880 inside of the baby steps, I think I need to explore. 673 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.279 Can you you don't die in it? Right? Right? You 674 00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:47.880 fall off the mountain and live right. 675 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.359 It's very much a in Alison Wonderland sort of thing 676 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.720 where it's like, I don't know if any of this 677 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.400 is really happening, Like what is Yeah, yeah, it's it's 678 00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:01.160 Anisa Kai maybe, or he's just he's exploring the depths 679 00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:03.599 of his own depression or whatever, like when you fall 680 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.759 from the highest heights land directly on your head and 681 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:09.240 your head gets lodged in the ground through the geometry, 682 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:11.000 he stands right up and he's fine. 683 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.440 So so, so what happened is like when you load 684 00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.960 up the game next time you play, are you going 685 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.599 to be right where you fell? Or what's the checkpointing situation? 686 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.960 I will be there. There is no checkpointing. 687 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:24.720 I know that Russ Freshdick was telling the story on 688 00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:28.240 the Bestiees about how he was doing something. 689 00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:28.880 Risky to get a hat. 690 00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:30.920 He could actually get the construction hat that I got, 691 00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:33.519 and he was you know you cheffed up basically walk 692 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:35.039 out on this girder, pick up the hat. And I 693 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.519 think he got on the girder and he did something 694 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.519 I've done before where when you've been over to pick 695 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.559 up the hat, if you're too close, he'll fall over. 696 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:43.559 And I think he fell over and he's like shit, 697 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.519 I said. He's like said to himself, if I fall down, 698 00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.279 I'm not going to do this again, so I'm going 699 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.599 to try to saves gum. And he turned the game 700 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.279 off really fast. He loaded it back up and it 701 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.400 loaded him falling in the air. So he did he 702 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.119 fall back down now he did. He's the immediate like, 703 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.279 fuck you, game, let's go again, and you started doing 704 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:06.519 it again. But yeah, they it is as punishings as 705 00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:10.680 it possibly can be in those situations. There are no checkpoints, 706 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.039 there is no real saves coming. I bet there is ways, 707 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.920 but I've not looked into it. I've not figured it 708 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.119 out if there is. And it's like, you know, that's 709 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.599 that's part of the game, is like recognizing hey, when 710 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:26.240 you like fall down and you have to find a 711 00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.079 new way back up to where you were, or maybe 712 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:30.279 find a whole other direction that you didn't see before 713 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.119 you're gonna find like hidden items you didn't see before. 714 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.720 Like that's how I found the first person hat, the 715 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:38.759 hat that gives you a first person view is I 716 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.599 like fell down when a different direction found a small 717 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:43.559 little puzzle area where it's like I was climbing up 718 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:45.799 these these steps and then the scaffolding to get that. 719 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.359 You also see like entirely new cut scenes you hadn't 720 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:51.440 seen before. The game wants you. 721 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.480 To realize you shouldn't necessarily be playing it to like 722 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:56.240 get to the end. 723 00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.279 You should be playing it to do one step after 724 00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:58.640 the other. 725 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.519 And wherever that takes you, it's probably gonna take you 726 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:03.680 to the end eventually, but wherever it takes you next 727 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:05.759 is part of the journey. It is part of like 728 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.039 recognizing that Nate is still dealing with his problems by 729 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:11.319 just being willing to get back up and keep going. 730 00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:12.599 And you know, the man. 731 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.440 Breaker can't break me until I decide to put down 732 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.000 the controller, right And I'm just gonna keep going and 733 00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:21.079 take those deep breaths and keep trying. And it's yeah, 734 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:22.519 it's been really really fun. 735 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.880 Awesome speaking about a game with a little bit of 736 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.200 symbolism in it, I didn't get the chance to talk 737 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.680 about this last week because my power got raptured, maybe 738 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.039 because I told someone on Twitter to eat my ass, 739 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.400 But Silent Hill f Holy Smoke's Gang, I know Backlar 740 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.039 Talked had an extended to talk about it. There's a 741 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.960 quick look now up on the website. But this is 742 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.599 one of the games that I wound up taking notes 743 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.119 while I was playing because there's so many parts of 744 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.480 it were just appealing to me, and I just wanted 745 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.240 to make sure that I hit these topics when it 746 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.960 gets to the bomb cast. But my experience with Silent 747 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.839 Hill has been well documented on this website. I've only 748 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.240 ever played one and two and then the to remake from. 749 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:08.159 Gosh was that last year? Y'all last year? Last year? Okay? 750 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.880 Yeah, So I'm well acquainted or as acquainted as I 751 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:15.079 can be, with the fog, and I think I speak 752 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.199 for a lot of Silent Hill people, or there's been 753 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.440 hesitancy anytime a new entry into the series is teased 754 00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:26.440 or gets announced. But Silent Hill f completely radically different 755 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:29.079 from most entries, or at least the ones I'm familiar 756 00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.679 with in the series, because you're no longer in the 757 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:37.480 PMW or somewhere in like Maine or wherever Silent Hill 758 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:41.159 is supposed to be. You're just straight up in rural 759 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:46.679 Japan in the nineteen sixties, And this is one of 760 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.719 those beautiful moments for me where I think it's great 761 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.639 and grub You said something on a stream recently that 762 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.639 has kind of been like ringing in my head and 763 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.559 resonating with me. Where video games is just such a 764 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.440 specific medium where only certain stories can be told just 765 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.800 because you are thrust into a character's perspective. And four 766 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.760 of us, or this whole team right now, including Chuck 767 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:10.960 and Sean, we're all a bunch of dudes, right, We're 768 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.159 all a bunch of dudes. And if we get thrown 769 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.639 into any bit of danger, maybe someone accosts us outside 770 00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:19.039 of a seven to eleven because they think we stole 771 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:24.039 their bag, most of us will, or at least together 772 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:25.840 we will be able to get out of that situation 773 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:26.679 because we're dudes. 774 00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:26.920 Right. 775 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:32.519 But this game, specifically, you play as a Heinko, a 776 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.400 Japanese high school girl, and one of the things I 777 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:41.519 love about it is that her frailty and her position 778 00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:44.280 in life is a major component in the story rather 779 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.559 than just you know, perhaps her being sexualized. 780 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:48.559 Thankfully she's not. 781 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:56.840 But the ways that they use the Silent Hill ethos 782 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.000 to tell a story is incredibly effective in this game. 783 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.840 But also I don't think you need to have played 784 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.840 any of the other Sound Hill games to really get 785 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:09.760 the gist of this. It's I know Backlaw was saying 786 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:11.960 last week he wasn't super scared of it. Maybe my 787 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.639 tolerance for playing scary games is much lower, but I 788 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:18.079 was spooked the whole time, or at least tense. And 789 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:22.440 I think something that Silent Hill F does really well 790 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.159 in comparison to the older games is that it does 791 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:30.440 have a pretty simple but good combat system where when 792 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:35.360 you get thrown into these combat arenas, not arenas, but situations, 793 00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.840 you do have a little bit of tools to get 794 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.079 out of there and succeed. And just like other survival 795 00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:43.559 horror games, you don't have to. 796 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:48.159 Fight all the time. You can just run away. But 797 00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:49.800 at least you were given the tools. 798 00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:51.920 Now of like all right, yo, he andko, she got 799 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.960 that pipe on her, these demons they're gonna fucking go down. 800 00:36:55.119 --> 00:37:01.800 I'm gonna swing away. But the story in this it's great. 801 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.119 Your overall run will probably be maybe eight to ten hours. 802 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:11.039 But in classic Silent Hill fashion, this will only get 803 00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.079 you one of the endings. I wound up looking up 804 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.159 because I just don't I don't have the time y'all 805 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:21.039 to go play through a game again. I went and 806 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.039 looked up the different endings, and god, this game goes 807 00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.400 hog wild ape shit. But what I wanted to get 808 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:28.639 back to is like the medium of video games as 809 00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.159 like storytelling devices, and like, you know, you're thrust into 810 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.679 this position, as like this girl that already experiences so 811 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.320 much difficulty in her home life with her parents trying 812 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.480 and their expectations of her to like, well, why don't 813 00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.480 you get married? How come you're not like your sister 814 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.039 and all this? All that, and then as well as 815 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:52.639 like how and again, I am a straight dude talking 816 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.079 about this, so I'm probably and I will get some 817 00:37:55.159 --> 00:38:00.519 of this wrong. But it handles topics of substance abuse 818 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:06.239 and objectification and how women, especially I mean still to 819 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:10.360 this day unfortunately get treated as property and like the 820 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:14.559 struggles within women and society to fight and buck up 821 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.360 against that is specially hard. And then but this game 822 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:24.599 gives Hinko the tools and the agency to buck up 823 00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.360 against that and fight that and there's bits in this 824 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.599 story that are really heart wrenching and like the twists 825 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.039 that it takes to also kind of talk about substance 826 00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:40.719 abuse and how substance abuse and medication can sometimes yes, 827 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.320 it is needed, but sometimes it is not a fix all. 828 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:45.960 Band aid for someone's problems. 829 00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.360 And the deeper relationships that we have with one another, 830 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.360 with our family, friends, are our town is very important 831 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.119 and essential to that. Also, there's cool crazy fox demons 832 00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:59.719 in this and that's sick. 833 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.559 When before the uh, like the mechanics of her bucking 834 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.519 up back against that. Do you think that is like 835 00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.480 where they are saying, this is what silent Hill is, like, 836 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:13.840 you know, because I think that's one of the criticisms 837 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:15.880 I've been hearing, or maybe not even criticisms, but people 838 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.400 just kind of like maybe warning others, like, you know, 839 00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:18.840 it's not. 840 00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:19.639 Really silent Hill. 841 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.599 But do you think like they are are trying to say, well, no, 842 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.440 silent Hill can also be this and maybe should also 843 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.239 be something like this, so we can explore different ideas 844 00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:29.920 under this umbrella. 845 00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.360 Do you think they like pulled that off? I think 846 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:32.840 they did. 847 00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:37.119 I think because one of the major aspects of a 848 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:41.280 Silent Hill game in my experience is that the town 849 00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:46.280 and the setting overall is and like the tension behind 850 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:48.880 the town as well, and the overall mystery is a 851 00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.840 major component of Silent Hill. And I think Solent Hill 852 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:57.159 f really nails that. And maybe I haven't played any 853 00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.400 of the later titles in the series, it probably nails 854 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:05.079 it better than some of the revisits to the franchise. Also, 855 00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.239 they went and got I forget his name, but the 856 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.480 original composer for the Silent Hill games, and that that 857 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.440 music score or like the score behind this game and 858 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.119 the audio design is so fantastic because it really adds 859 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:22.239 to that unnerving tension and like the psychological horror that 860 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.400 builds up Backler and I didn't quite get to it 861 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.840 in the quick look, but you do kind of go 862 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:33.159 between two different worlds in this game, and Hinko's sanity, well, 863 00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:37.559 sanity is also a thing to manage in the game, 864 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:41.320 but you kind of go shifting between the town that 865 00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.239 you start the game in and then like a kind 866 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:47.199 of psychological different space where you start to question what 867 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.599 is real, what is actually pushing Heinko or the different 868 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.000 factors in her life forward. 869 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:56.880 I also like have heard that people be like, Oh, 870 00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.119 the combat's not great, but it sounds like for you, like. 871 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.119 It did what it needed to do, or like, I 872 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.440 guess what I'm asking is is it thematically good where 873 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.119 you're like, oh, this fits with what the game's trying 874 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.199 to do, or is it just like a fun video 875 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:10.480 game ass combat system. 876 00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:13.480 I think something that I walked away with Silent Hill 877 00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.119 to remake last year is just kind of like the 878 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:21.280 rage that gets put into every swing, and that it 879 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.960 makes sense with James in Sound Hill too, And I 880 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.119 think when you get introduced to the weapon very early 881 00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:32.480 on in Sound Hill out f you can tell that 882 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.079 there is a lot of pent up rage and anger 883 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.960 Inhinko the player character. That I think it makes sense. 884 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:43.920 And also we're playing a video game gang where like 885 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.079 this weird these weird red flowers take over the town 886 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.800 and then these like dull like monsters pop up. So 887 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.679 I'm not quite thrown off with oh, she's suddenly good 888 00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:58.639 at swinging a pipe and like using these weapons. I 889 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.840 don't think it does too much where it takes you 890 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:01.840 away from the game. 891 00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:04.719 Eight to ten hours sounds real good to me. 892 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.320 But am I am I going to finish the first 893 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.119 run and feel like I'm missing something if I don't 894 00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:13.079 replay it, like you didn't do that, you went to 895 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:14.119 go watch the other endings. 896 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:15.599 Were you satisfied with that? 897 00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:19.519 I think I was satisfied enough, because, like in Silent 898 00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:21.880 Hill fashion, there's a bunch of different notes to pick 899 00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:24.800 up that flesh out the story and start to make 900 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.559 you wonder of, like, oh, wait a minute. 901 00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.840 What's going on over here? 902 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:34.320 And if you were like more aware of like the 903 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:39.280 different plot elements and plot devices, specifically with flora and 904 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.440 flora and fauna from the Silent Hill universe, you may 905 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:46.320 start to pick up on other things in Silent Hill 906 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.760 f But yeah, I would easily recommend it if you're 907 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.639 if you want something spooky to play. I also think 908 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.519 that the voice acting is specifically with the Japanese cast. 909 00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:59.079 I haven't checked out the English cast, so I can't 910 00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:03.519 speak to that. That the Japanese cast fucking killer performances 911 00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:07.760 from HINK like ten out of ten. And I said 912 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.079 this on Blue Sky, But I think it'd be a 913 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.320 crime if she if that voice actress did not get 914 00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.559 nominated for anything from the end of the year time 915 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.440 sticking in Japan though, Dan Reikert, I think you've been 916 00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:23.199 dealing with your own paranormal because you have been dealing 917 00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.079 with ghosts, specifically ghosts of Yote. 918 00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:29.920 Yeah, I'm the ghost in that. Everyone thinks to your 919 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:34.920 ghost walking around killing people. It's very good. I liked 920 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.280 Sushima a good amount. I kind of fell off near 921 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.400 the end. I don't remember why. I got through that 922 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.880 first like whole kind of like island area, and as 923 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.320 it moved on to the next one, I was kind 924 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:47.920 of like, I feel like the combat and just kind 925 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:49.719 of the moment to moment, like going to these places 926 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.400 in the stealth and everything wasn't really like moving forward 927 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:55.360 in a substantial enough way to kind of keep me going. 928 00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.639 So that's to say, like the first one, I am 929 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.559 liking this one a lot more. It's just it's a 930 00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:06.760 lot more just focused story wise. It just it plays 931 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.199 like a cool like Samurai movie. It's just a revenge tale, 932 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.039 and I like that that's easy to follow. It's you know, 933 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:13.840 you've seen this set up probably It's like, you know, 934 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.079 six people do some bad stuff to you and you 935 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.920 got to go kill them all, and the combat's super good. 936 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.960 It's maybe one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen. 937 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.599 I do think it is probably the first time I've 938 00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.559 been like, okay, this is a significant boost up on 939 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.119 PS five Pro, like, you know, because I've seen it 940 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.199 on this TV, which is my standard PlayStation five and 941 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:36.840 you can do the performance mode and it runs it 942 00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.719 a pretty good like sixty or so. But like, boy, 943 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:42.119 the ray Tracing Pro mode looks really really good in 944 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:46.840 this But yeah, it's it's it's really fun. It uses 945 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.599 gimmicks well, it uses the like dual sense stuff really well. 946 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:51.039 You know, the first one I had the stuff where 947 00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:52.559 you could look at the you swipe up and you 948 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.159 see the wind and everything, and it does that. But 949 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:57.159 it also like you sit down to camp and like 950 00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.719 to light the campfire, you're like swiping up to like 951 00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.679 put the tender on the stuff, and you blow into 952 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:04.760 the microphone to kind of blow the fire, and then 953 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:06.920 you're cooking by like you've got like a fish on 954 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.519 a stick and you're turning the controller. I kind of like, 955 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.960 it's fun. It's not something you have to do all there, 956 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.679 and it's funny because like I don't know, like in 957 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:18.960 Red Dead, you know, you could cook and everything, and 958 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:21.239 it drove me nuts just watching the animations. But oh 959 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.800 when I'm blowing into my controller and flipping it upside down, 960 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.400 and it's like, oh, that's fun for me. So whatever. 961 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.000 Combat's good. It's it does a lot of that good 962 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.800 diegetic uh not you I but the way it just 963 00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.480 kind of like leads you to places. The way there's 964 00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.599 like you know, the bird or the fox and stuff 965 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:40.119 that can kind of lead you as you're exploring the 966 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:42.920 open world. It also like in the accessibility options, it 967 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.039 lets you turn on like there's really good options here, 968 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:47.599 like you can turn off the bird and stuff like that. 969 00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.920 If you want to just find something yourself. There's all 970 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.599 those different modes and stuff you can do, kind of 971 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:56.440 the the black and white film mode. There's one that's 972 00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.039 like an anime mode where I think it was some 973 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.719 anime director guide some like music that it's more kind 974 00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:03.559 of like modern sounding music over it. Tried it for 975 00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:04.639 a little bit. It was a little cool, but and 976 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:08.360 I kind of prefer the classic. Yeah, it's like in 977 00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:11.199 terms of the open world, you know, the last one 978 00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:13.800 was almost a little more like old GTA style where 979 00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:15.519 it would be kind of gated, like oh, the bridges 980 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.840 are under construction, you know, where like you move on 981 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.000 to the next Islands. This one is kind of more 982 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:24.119 breath the wild, where you know there's six people that 983 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.239 you need to hunt down and you're getting clues about 984 00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:28.039 where they are, and as you get clues and stuff, 985 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:29.559 your map kind of gets filled out and you can 986 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.679 kind of like nothing was telling me go to this 987 00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:34.639 guy first. I just was like exploring in one direction, 988 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.159 and suddenly I started like getting wind from people and 989 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:38.679 getting clues and stuff like, oh, that God might be 990 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:40.760 fucking up here, so let's let's let's try to find him. 991 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.920 So it's cool, like there's that like investigating element of it, 992 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.559 like you know, just riding around on your horse talking 993 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:47.960 to people, you see them talking about rumors and stuff 994 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.920 like that. That the stealth is great, you know, sneaked 995 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.320 around on rooftops, you got your grapple hook and everything, 996 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.719 throwing spears down on people like it's it's it's working 997 00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:01.199 for me better than the previous one. So but the 998 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.480 thing is, I've done two sittings with this game, so 999 00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:05.280 I'm not super far into this. You know, I'm all 1000 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.840 my way towards the first of the six guys. It's 1001 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:09.360 just been one of those things where it's like everything 1002 00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.639 that's doing is very very good. But I can't deny 1003 00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.159 the pull of like the last month or so, you know, 1004 00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.480 I've Hades and Silk Song, and I found myself going 1005 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.400 to even like Megabank. I put like twenty five hours 1006 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.199 into Megabank in the last week, and I've had Yota 1007 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.280 sitting there. So it's like, I don't know if that 1008 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.039 necessarily says anything other than just like, you know, this 1009 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:31.360 is a game that if I'm going to play this, 1010 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:32.800 I want to sit down and make a night of it. 1011 00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:34.639 I want to have like a few hours to kind 1012 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.199 of get lost in this world and explore and stuff. 1013 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.039 And more often than not, it's like, you know, I 1014 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:42.039 got like maybe forty five minutes before I should be 1015 00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.199 going to bed, or before you know, the workday starts 1016 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:45.960 or something, I'm going to pick up a MEGABONK or 1017 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.239 Hades and do a runner. Yeah. So that's not really 1018 00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:49.960 knock on the game, which is a different style of game, 1019 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.199 but like you want to have some more time when 1020 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:53.159 you're playing this one. 1021 00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.800 Yeah, I think I've experienced the same thing Dan, where 1022 00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:00.559 like it's looming in the background and we've known that 1023 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.079 Yota is coming out, but then all these other smaller 1024 00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:06.320 bite sized games or bite size experiences have popped out 1025 00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.000 where like, no, I could sink in a quick like 1026 00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:11.960 hour into this and then the one hour becomes like 1027 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:16.679 twenty five hours into Megabank like you said, and just 1028 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.320 finishing sorry, oh sorry, just like losing time traveling with 1029 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.360 games like Hades two, where it's like I thought it 1030 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.280 was nine pm, Oh no, it's two. 1031 00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:26.760 Great. 1032 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:29.320 And did you play any Assassin's Creed Shadows? 1033 00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:34.119 Yeah? This year? Oh my god Jesus, yeah I did. 1034 00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.840 And I did like it more than I like I 1035 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.159 typically actively dislike the Assassin's Creed. This one, I was like, ah, 1036 00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:42.239 this is actually doing some fun stuff, but it's it's 1037 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:44.960 still felt there's something that just feels kind of weighted 1038 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.760 down about that, you know, just running around in that 1039 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.039 game and the combat and everything, which maybe some people prefer. 1040 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.599 But there's definitely like I feel like Sucker Punch between 1041 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.679 Infamous and the Ghost series, like they have a real 1042 00:48:56.840 --> 00:48:59.440 just kind of like floaty quick in a good way, 1043 00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.880 like you feel like you're just exploring. There's not a 1044 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:03.760 lot of obstacles anywhere. This is. This is the opposite 1045 00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:05.480 of like a Red Dead two, where everything feels very 1046 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:09.800 grounded and uh you know, um blanket on the word 1047 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:14.159 and what's the fucking word laborious or like lugubrious. Sure 1048 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:19.280 we'll go with that. Uhgetic. Everything just feels really sharp 1049 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:21.199 in this, like you know, rolling to get out of 1050 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:22.880 the way of an attack, that all the different ways 1051 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.719 you can like you know, it does the blue glint, 1052 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:26.840 the yellow glint, the red glint on the combat and 1053 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:28.719 it's you know red as you roll out of the way. 1054 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.719 Triangle is a cool one because if you like, if 1055 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:33.559 you see or sorry, yellow is a cool one because 1056 00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:35.719 if you hold triangle and you let go before the 1057 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.519 strike hits you, you'll disarm the person coming after you, 1058 00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:40.760 so their sword will fill out. And then so it's like, 1059 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.159 imagine the guy's come to attack you, you perfectly do 1060 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:44.559 the thing to knock the sword out of the way. 1061 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.119 You see where it lands, you roll over to it, 1062 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:48.599 and you can pick up his sword and throw it 1063 00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:51.599 into him while he doesn't have that type of shits 1064 00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.119 and you've got like Fuji dust and stuff like mister Fuji, 1065 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:58.000 like throwing stuff in their face. Yeah, it's like that 1066 00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.000 shit all feels really good and it does it without 1067 00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:02.519 like you can turn on a target lock system that's 1068 00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:04.719 in the accessibility, but by default it's off and it 1069 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.199 works really well. The game very much is turning you 1070 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.039 to feel like you'll be surrounded, and it does a 1071 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:11.440 very good job of just moving the camera and moving 1072 00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:12.679 who you want to go towards. 1073 00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.239 Is it illegal if we started selling pocket sand on 1074 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:15.679 the store. 1075 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.800 No, we're not responsible for people use pockets sand. We're 1076 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:24.320 in your pockets for building sand castles. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, cool, 1077 00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:25.880 Mike write that down please. 1078 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.920 So cocaine pocket sand, gotcha? 1079 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.840 Cool? No, we're not. So Anyway, I'm gonna play a 1080 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.639 lot more of this. It is very very good. But yeah, 1081 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.679 it's just weird how much just those other games have 1082 00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:43.239 just completely occupied like my brain stay there. 1083 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.679 There's a lot everybody's going to have the prioritize. 1084 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.119 Certain games right now, right, Yeah, definitely, this is like 1085 00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:49.679 this is someone's chat to this. 1086 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.559 This is kind of one of those holiday break games. 1087 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:53.360 It almost sounds like even though it's out now, where 1088 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.760 it's like, yeah, a few days off. 1089 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:59.320 I can see that, you know, I could totally see that. Yeah, 1090 00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.039 I think odds good. I'm gonna beat this game and 1091 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:03.239 it'll probably be on my top ten because I am 1092 00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.480 really loving it, but like, I just need to find 1093 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:06.880 that town. I need a little bit of a break. 1094 00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.000 But I did just see like a collage of the 1095 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:10.920 box art of all the games coming out in October, 1096 00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.920 and it's like, fucking Jesus, wait, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, 1097 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.840 I'm not even close to done with like Hades and 1098 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:19.719 Megabond as much as I played them, so yeah, wild. 1099 00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:24.400 Well, let's add another cute little adventure game to explore 1100 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:27.079 around and lose some time. Last night on Mega Man, 1101 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.599 Mike Minatti, you checked out Ooh Ooh. 1102 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.159 I think it's ooh because at one point I solved 1103 00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:35.960 the puzzle in the game and I went, no, it 1104 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:43.039 gets this because I went oh, then I'm like, oh. 1105 00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:42.960 I get it all right. 1106 00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:44.480 Maybe it's also called that because you're kind of a 1107 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:48.320 caterpillar guy, and uh, the start off is just ahead 1108 00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:50.400 and then you get a segment and then it's you know, 1109 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.559 but you actually get two. In fact, the game was 1110 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:56.599 originally called Oh with four o's, but they cut one 1111 00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:58.679 the o's, which I think is the right idea. I 1112 00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.199 think that's maybe a layer of complic This is a 1113 00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:06.679 really neat kind of Metroid Venia two D puzzle platform 1114 00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.400 or thing where the main mechanic is like I said, 1115 00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:11.559 so you know, you're kind of a caterpillar and you're 1116 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:14.960 you're ahead and two balls behind you, and the balls 1117 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.519 are bombs, kind of Bomberman style, and the bombs are 1118 00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:22.159 the only way you can sort of impact your own movement. 1119 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.519 They will shoot you up or to the right, or 1120 00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:27.320 you can shoot the other segment with that. And basically 1121 00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.000 just from those two mechanics, and there's only two buttons 1122 00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:35.320 place bomb, set, bomb off, you have kind of everything, 1123 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.480 and it's just about learning what you can do and 1124 00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:40.920 then doing it. It's a little animal, well like in 1125 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.239 that situation. And even though it's it's Metroid Vena, it's 1126 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.800 not so much like, yeah, it's one map, but it's 1127 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.119 not like all these different branching paths. Generally, you'll enter 1128 00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.840 an area and to your left will be what looks 1129 00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:54.480 like a dead end, and then to your right is 1130 00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.679 a kind of long sequence that is actually just teaching 1131 00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.800 you a mechanic, and once you go through it, it's 1132 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:02.440 all you get some item at the end of it, 1133 00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.039 or you know, unlock progression. You just get to the 1134 00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.760 end of it and you're like, oh, now, that I 1135 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.320 know that this is something I can do. I can 1136 00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:12.119 go back to that dead end and it's not a 1137 00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:15.920 dead end. Actually, Oh I love that. It is very 1138 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:20.280 well designed in that way. So it's just super satisfying 1139 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.400 just constantly learning all these things, figuring it out, and 1140 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:25.960 then yes, seeing how you can do things that once 1141 00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:27.840 felt impossible. 1142 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.199 Like what kind of mechanics, Mike. It's like I'm trying 1143 00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:32.840 to think, what was that like Zelda like game few 1144 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:35.119 years back that had the the you know, the manual 1145 00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:36.880 pieces that you found in the world world you played 1146 00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:39.840 as a little fun tunics, Oh Tunic so tunic Hat's 1147 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:41.760 and like Hitten mechanics where it's like, hey, if you 1148 00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:45.559 like pull down this button and certain spots you'll you'll 1149 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:46.880 do a thing, and that you've been able to do 1150 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:48.320 this the whole time, but now you found the manual 1151 00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.519 piece and just straight up tells you how to do it. 1152 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.719 Is it something I guess you know obviously it's not 1153 00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:57.679 giving you manual pieces, but is it like you didn't. 1154 00:53:57.480 --> 00:53:59.280 Know you had a double jump, Like, what is it? 1155 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:00.960 It's not quite like that, but I think a good 1156 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.519 example is at one point the kind of section of 1157 00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:05.239 a wall you need to blow up is above you 1158 00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:08.360 and your bomb doesn't reach. But you realize that if 1159 00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.760 you drop a bomb on this platform and it falls, 1160 00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:12.519 and if you kind of get under it within it 1161 00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:14.760 falls on your head, they can kind of carry it 1162 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.360 over to that place, and now it reaches it and 1163 00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:21.199 everything is kind of like that. It's not like, oh, 1164 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.320 you didn't know that pushing A and B at the 1165 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:26.320 same time, did a dodge or something like that. It's 1166 00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:28.679 just all the way these interactions work, the way that 1167 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:33.320 the bombs impact you, impact other bombs can impact the environment, 1168 00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:37.039 and sometimes it's even sort of just context clues, like, Okay, 1169 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.920 in this room that has a certain layout, obviously you 1170 00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:43.760 kind of learned that you can bomb a wall over here. 1171 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:44.360 And then layer. 1172 00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.800 In the game, you just see that same room layout 1173 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:49.320 again and you're like, well, I bet I could bomb 1174 00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:51.360 that part of the room again and unlock something, and 1175 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:51.840 you do. 1176 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:54.599 So it's just tons of that. It's also you know, 1177 00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.360 it's like virtual highlight not telling you about pressing B 1178 00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.280 and C to do your specialty. Now it's better than that. 1179 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.400 See that was that was there's no way for me 1180 00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:03.000 to better that. 1181 00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.119 Yes, in this game's on Steam, it's like eight bucks 1182 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.239 right now, it's on it's actually on sale, normally it's 1183 00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.079 ten bucks. It's you know, it's it's not super long. 1184 00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:14.239 I went through it actually throughout the Mega Man Block. 1185 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.039 It was super satisfying. I basically beat it right at 1186 00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:18.119 the two hour mark. 1187 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:19.519 Oh well that's great shit. 1188 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.159 Yeah, and you know, maybe it'll be a bit longer 1189 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.039 depending on how long it takes you to figure out 1190 00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:27.599 the puzzles. But yeah, it's just a really nice, kind 1191 00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:32.639 of bite sized one of the Metroid Brain you if 1192 00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:35.559 you want to. The music is very good, very chill, 1193 00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:42.159 uh kind of fun tracks playing throughout it. Yeah, it's 1194 00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.519 it's overwhelmingly positive on Steam. It doesn't have a ton 1195 00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.360 of reviews, but it seems like everyone who does check 1196 00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:51.159 this one out. Yeah, Like I said, I think, you know, 1197 00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:52.599 I gotta know there's a lot to play right now, 1198 00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:54.559 but yeah, I think it's a great you have an 1199 00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.480 evening game, right yeah, two or three hours. Check this 1200 00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:01.719 thing out, play through it, super on, just super satisfying. 1201 00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:06.239 Even though it's a puzzle game. I never felt overly stuck. 1202 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:08.280 There's moments where I was like, I'm not sure what's 1203 00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:10.880 going on, and then I kind of figure out. The 1204 00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:14.079 important thing to remember is that wherever you are, the 1205 00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:16.639 game is teaching you a mechanic in that area usually, 1206 00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:20.079 and remember what the game is actively teaching you, right, 1207 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:21.960 you'll probably figure out what you need to do. 1208 00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:25.199 I'm going to play this side. 1209 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:28.039 Two hours is like the exact right length of Like, oh, 1210 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:31.000 I can fit that onto the Steam deck and play 1211 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.519 that at any moment. There's another one like that I've 1212 00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:35.760 been meaning, Capoot Mordem, which is like a spooky game, 1213 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.599 and I'm like, I'll say that for October. Apparently that's 1214 00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:39.880 like two hours. So yeah, maybe I'll fit those into 1215 00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:41.159 one of these morning streams. 1216 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:41.400 At some point. 1217 00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:42.880 I think you'll like it, Jeff. 1218 00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.599 Okay, something else I think you'd like, Jeff. Grub is 1219 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:50.119 a game that I've been playing, Final Fantasy Tactics, The 1220 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:56.920 Evils Chronicles, Pile Pervs, Stand with Me, Lock into Place 1221 00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:00.360 with Me, Gang. The game is here. It's finally here. 1222 00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:03.920 The rumors were real. It's here, and Greb. We talked 1223 00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:06.440 about this very briefly on an episode of Game as 1224 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.559 Mornings last week. But if I reviewed games on this 1225 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.880 website or I guess I could, I think this is 1226 00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.039 an easy four out of five five out of five. 1227 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.880 If you've ever been curious about the final Fantasy Tactics 1228 00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.440 games and didn't want to spin up an emulator or 1229 00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:26.559 get the weird iPhone version that came out a couple 1230 00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:29.880 of years ago, this is definitely the way to play 1231 00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:33.320 this game. The quality of life changes that they've added 1232 00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:36.920 are great. The voice acting performance is fantastic. I think 1233 00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:39.519 front of the site Ben Star is in this probably 1234 00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:45.199 is or could be Ben Starr from Expedition thirty three 1235 00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:51.599 or Destraining two. I mean, but yeah, if you are 1236 00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.079 like me and a tyle siko, this is the title game. 1237 00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:59.079 The story turns out kind of hits very hard when 1238 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:05.119 you yourself a kind of living through a very questionable 1239 00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.760 person in charge at the hell through History country. Yeah, 1240 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:10.880 tired of living through unprecedented times. 1241 00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:11.199 Gang. 1242 00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:14.639 But this has all of the trappings from the original game, 1243 00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:18.280 where Yep, throw your dude over here, and then after 1244 00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:20.679 you've done your move, pick the position he lays in, 1245 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.800 and then if you hit someone from behind, does more 1246 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:27.480 damage good. And then you got your little cute dudes 1247 00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:31.960 and like you're ere looking guys. It's great, It's fantastic. 1248 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:33.880 We're going to try and spin up a quick look 1249 00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:36.239 for folks to see the game in action, because it 1250 00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:40.199 is pretty much just Final Fantasy Tactics, the original game. 1251 00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.519 So I don't want to spoil the story because the 1252 00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:44.400 story is very important to the game, but the overall 1253 00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:48.760 gameplay it is I wouldn't say snappier, because we have 1254 00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:53.639 very snappy Tactics games now like Tactical Breech Wizards and 1255 00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.559 Into the Breach, So this isn't quite that. This is like, 1256 00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:03.480 this is just streamline and original Final Fantasy Tactics, And 1257 00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.360 this does give me hope gang that maybe one day 1258 00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:09.239 we will go back to that school yard and start 1259 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.880 with a snowball fight that takes us to a magical 1260 00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:14.719 journey about crystals and friendship and our brother. 1261 00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.920 Maybe I used to think that wasn't gonna happen, id. 1262 00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:20.480 I used to think people didn't really like Tactics Advanced 1263 00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:26.320 that much until I met you, Fucos, and uhs, I realized, yeah. 1264 00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:27.440 Yeah, that game fucking rule. 1265 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.480 That's that's the game that I did actually like play 1266 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.239 like at a red light and did not like look 1267 00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.079 up into and then realize, oh my god, it turned 1268 00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:35.039 green and I can't do this. 1269 00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.119 I can't take this to work anymore. So yeah, yeah, 1270 00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.360 that game is the reason I went to class for 1271 00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:42.239 the first semester of college. That is the only thing 1272 00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:44.239 they got me through that semester I went to school. 1273 00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.079 I'm glad that this is hitting. H I I love 1274 00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:50.480 Final Fantasy. It's one of my favorite game franchises, and 1275 00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.000 somehow I just have not really played that much. Final 1276 00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:54.599 Fans A two. 1277 00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:56.960 I don't think it was as good, but it was 1278 00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:00.760 that first one's a I was excited for or didn't. 1279 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.559 Really do it for me. Yeah, it didn't quite hit. 1280 01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:05.800 Yeah, but I'll stand by this. I think Tactics advanced 1281 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:09.079 and then Evilase chronicles with this one are probably for me. 1282 01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.800 Top five Final Fantasy games. And yeah, go back to 1283 01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.639 Eviase more. I mean twelve was cool with your twelve 1284 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.920 vest Man and the Bunny Ladies. Yeah you know what, 1285 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:26.679 throw in more tiles. Yeah, Phantom Menace and Bunny Ladies 1286 01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:28.679 in Final Fantasy, and I think we'll have hits. 1287 01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:31.360 Did I ever tell you about the Foul Fantasy fourteen 1288 01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:34.480 raids series where you just went to Elise and uh. 1289 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.719 Ron and I was tactics. I don't think i've ever 1290 01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.280 heard you talked about this, so yeah, what is this 1291 01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:39.719 all about? 1292 01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:41.679 So you know, like when they do the raids and 1293 01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:44.039 foul Fantasy fourteen, there's a different context. The raid with 1294 01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.360 the most people I forget eight times, the twenty four 1295 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:50.559 people together raids, they're usually very thematic. They have their 1296 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.599 own storylines, so you like watch like you talk to 1297 01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.239 people and then you go and do a rush of 1298 01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:58.920 kind of four bosses and it's thematic. But yeah, you're 1299 01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.199 like going to Evily and these ones and all these 1300 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.039 characters from tactics and mostly tactics, but there is also 1301 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:07.559 some twelve stuff in there. It's a very very cool 1302 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:09.920 raid series. Again, it was just all that the least flavor. 1303 01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:12.159 You're part of a theater troop even Oh it's good stuff. 1304 01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:13.440 Yeah. 1305 01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:17.760 This when when I saw that the Evila stuff made 1306 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:20.599 its way into fourteen, I thought, Okay, this will be 1307 01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:22.719 this will finally be the thing that gets me to 1308 01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.320 sink in a bunch of time. But then video games 1309 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:27.480 keep coming out and I don't have time to play 1310 01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:28.960 the one video game forever. 1311 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:30.119 You would have to have played. 1312 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.000 You probably need to play like three hundred hours of 1313 01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:37.679 fourteen before you could do the evil stuff one. Maybe 1314 01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:40.440 that's pushing it maybe let's say fifty or one hundred. 1315 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:45.000 There are a lot of kings and knights in Final 1316 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.639 Fantasy Tactics. But Mike Manatta, you've been going on your 1317 01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:49.639 own King's Quest with kings Quest one. 1318 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:54.119 Yeah, stupid idiots playing all these new games, you fools. 1319 01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:57.320 There actually was like a little it was like Sunday night, 1320 01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:00.800 like what am I gonna play? And I knew I should. 1321 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:05.239 Start like Solid Hill f or maybe Gsta Gyote or 1322 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:06.199 all these other things. 1323 01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:10.039 And I'm like, your chat demanded an old game. No 1324 01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:12.280 they didn't, Yeah, I bet they didn't. 1325 01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:16.039 I was like, you know, I really need to satisfy 1326 01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:19.400 my own stupid crave things right now. You know, I 1327 01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:23.239 like graphical adventure games a lot, talking about a much. 1328 01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.559 I like Monkey Island things like that. Obviously, been playing 1329 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:29.760 through myst and guests, so and I've always respected King's 1330 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:31.760 Quest and I've always been curious about it. And I 1331 01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:35.000 played King's Quest six, which was a very very early 1332 01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.360 CD game, and I finally played through all that recently. 1333 01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:41.360 But kingsqust one is kind of the first one of these. 1334 01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:44.599 It's when the series went from you know, the genre 1335 01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.440 went from text based games or maybe a game where 1336 01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:49.119 you look at a picture while you do the text 1337 01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:51.960 based stuff too, you're actually moving a character around an 1338 01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.239 environment to solve the puzzles. It came out of nineteen 1339 01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:58.199 eighty four. There aren't very many games that I played 1340 01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:00.679 that came out before I was born. Uh, so that 1341 01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:02.880 aspect that I find interesting. But yeah, it's it is 1342 01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:07.039 one of these you basically walking around a six by 1343 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.960 eight grid that loop, so it's almost like a globe, 1344 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:13.679 and there's just kind of puzzles to solve its. 1345 01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:16.840 Puzzles, like like spelling Rumpel Stiltskin backwards for an hour. 1346 01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:20.320 Oh that's yeah, yeah, so some of the way some 1347 01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:21.159 of the puzzles I want. 1348 01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:23.400 When I tuned in, it was like an hour of 1349 01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:25.960 like trying to spell rumpels Stiltskin backwards. 1350 01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:29.960 Yeah, here's here's I made a map of the world 1351 01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:32.119 and this is my rupples still skin cipher. 1352 01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:32.400 Yeah. 1353 01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:34.920 So at one point, wait, did you know you were 1354 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.079 supposed to be spelling rumples stilt skin backwards? 1355 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:40.960 Let me explain. So also, you just said the phrase 1356 01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:43.599 Rumpel Stiltskin cipher, and I just want to point that out. 1357 01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:47.800 Yeah, that's going to be the title of the episode now, 1358 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:54.159 so you at what point you come across a a nome, 1359 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:55.599 He's like, oh, if you can guess my name, I'll 1360 01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:56.400 give you a pressy. 1361 01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.000 You get three tries, and like you at first, you're 1362 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.440 like it, that's probably Rumple. Still He's like, ooh, that's close, 1363 01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:04.400 but it's not it. It gives Even when you fail, 1364 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:06.119 he gives you a key so you can progress through 1365 01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:08.639 the game. But whatever, you want to get his name right, Well, 1366 01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:10.440 you go to a witch's house later and you find 1367 01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.880 a note it's like think backwards. So I was like, okay, 1368 01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.880 I tech the right ruppel still skin backwards right, and 1369 01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:21.239 then he's like, m you're closer. I'm like, okay, what that. 1370 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:25.000 I was trying to figure this out forever. Finally someone 1371 01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:30.000 told me because I asked, you're supposed to write out 1372 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.760 the alphabet and figure out what the inverse letter is 1373 01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:37.519 an H letter of ruppels still skinned. 1374 01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:41.239 So like, why is z z is A? And so 1375 01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:41.679 on it? 1376 01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.760 Why now not only that, even after I did all 1377 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:49.000 of that, it turns out that I was spelling the 1378 01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:51.679 Rupple part wrong because Google says it was e L 1379 01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:57.840 not L e uh fuck Detroit, just score excuse me? 1380 01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:04.039 So that was right, me crazy, Yeah, there's up two spots. 1381 01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:07.039 But the thing is, this game, even in nineteen eighty four, 1382 01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:10.199 was doing like a, hey, each puzzle kind of has 1383 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:15.039 multiple solutions, so you don't need to know Rumpelstilskins stupid 1384 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.519 backwards cipher name. The key that you get from him 1385 01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:20.159 is good enough to go into a cave, so you 1386 01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:22.199 can go up some stairs and go to the floating 1387 01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:24.960 island where the giant is who has the magic chess 1388 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.039 that always refills with gold, which is one of the 1389 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:29.960 three items you need in order to complete your King's quest. 1390 01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:32.440 So even like, there's something about the idea of a 1391 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:36.280 nineteen eighty four game having multiple solutions to puzzles that 1392 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:39.719 is actually blowing my mind a little bit. Is super satisfying. 1393 01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:42.239 And you know there's a score system, and all that 1394 01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:44.559 really is is, hey, you can one hundred percent this 1395 01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:46.880 game once again, even in nineteen eighty four, Like, oh, 1396 01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.239 you're thinking about people one hundred percent of the game, 1397 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:51.679 So you could get the max score run if you 1398 01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:53.559 want to, or you can kind of just do what 1399 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:55.719 you want to do. You can kill the dragon with 1400 01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:58.639 a dagger instead of just kind of putting him out 1401 01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.000 with a bucket of water and get less points. But hey, 1402 01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:03.880 you're progressing, you're going to beat the game. It's fine. See, 1403 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:06.320 it's definitely archaic. I think a lot of people are 1404 01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.800 gonna find it very ugly. I find it infinitely interesting 1405 01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.400 in neat and if somebody loves this genre, it's it 1406 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:14.800 was really cool to like go back and play the 1407 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:17.320 kind of forefather of it, unless I went and played 1408 01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:21.639 Colossal Cave Adventure, a text based game, right, it's hard 1409 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:23.199 to find too many other predecessors. 1410 01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:26.199 Yeah, I mean that's like literally what you described describe there. 1411 01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:28.320 That's the one that the genre is named after, right, 1412 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:30.079 the adventure. 1413 01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:31.960 I think, yes, yes, I think it. 1414 01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:35.039 Is like when you're playing it, do you like, does 1415 01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:39.840 it feel like eventually or like there was some logic 1416 01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:40.119 to it? 1417 01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:41.239 Or is it just no ROBERTA. 1418 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:43.320 Williams was on cocaine the entire time. 1419 01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:45.320 There's like there's. 1420 01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:47.679 Some logic to so the air thing too. These games 1421 01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:50.440 are parsers, right, and that means that you have to 1422 01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:53.800 type out, type it out your commands. So a good 1423 01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:55.400 example is, at one point I was in the bottom 1424 01:06:55.400 --> 01:06:58.039 of a well and I wanted to see if there's 1425 01:06:58.079 --> 01:06:59.719 like I was in a body of water, and you 1426 01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.559 could I constantly these games. So I'm like, Okay, swim 1427 01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.840 this one for a bit. Eventually you get tired and die. 1428 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:09.840 I'm like, go underwater, submerge. Right, the only word it 1429 01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:13.519 will accept and is looking for is die. So sometimes 1430 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:15.960 it's just like, what exactly do you want me to 1431 01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:17.159 type here right now? 1432 01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:18.280 Video game? 1433 01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:21.239 Like, like, I still feel like you said it all 1434 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:23.679 exactly right. I think you're going to be younger people 1435 01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:26.000 who still just don't really know what you mean. Like 1436 01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:29.239 there are no buttons on the screen that say, like, 1437 01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:32.079 here are the options, here's the context sensitive buttons that 1438 01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:34.679 will give you an idea of what the game's looking for. 1439 01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:36.880 He literally has to type out what he wants the 1440 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:39.199 character to do and hope that that's what the game 1441 01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:40.119 is after. 1442 01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.400 Yeah, Like later games kind of get better about synonyms 1443 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:46.719 and things like that. This one it's pretty specific. Like 1444 01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:48.679 at one point I had a key I want to 1445 01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:51.079 open a door that was locked, and it guys like 1446 01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:54.280 open door, use key on door. It just wasn't like 1447 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:57.639 any of that until I said unlock door. It was 1448 01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.960 looking for the word unlock, and then it was happy. 1449 01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:02.840 So start as he can go a little crazy because 1450 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:05.360 you're like, Okay, am I on the wrong track here? 1451 01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:07.679 Am I just not typing in the right exact word? 1452 01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:11.119 So that that was Maniac Mansion, which was Lucasart's first 1453 01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:13.679 big point click adventure game. That was the big innovation 1454 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:15.920 there was that they just put verbs as part of 1455 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.079 the UI, and you clicked on the verb and then 1456 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:20.560 you clicked on the environment. So you would just click 1457 01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:23.800 on the word open, then you click on the door. Well, 1458 01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:25.199 now you open the door. 1459 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.239 So that became kind of standardized eventually. I remember the 1460 01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:30.439 first time I encountered that was Robin Hood on the 1461 01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:34.920 nes and being like is this I just could not. 1462 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:38.720 Understand it, as like a little boy, some of the 1463 01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:41.479 Kingsworst games had any sports. Kings Quest five, which is 1464 01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:44.119 pretty late in the series, had in any support, and 1465 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:46.760 I'm like, how the heck would that have worked out? 1466 01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:50.359 So yeah, I think few people would appreciate this game 1467 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:50.920 like I did. 1468 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:52.960 By somebody who loves this, Jen Ry and has been 1469 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:55.920 very fascinated by early computer games. Recently, I've been watching 1470 01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:59.079 a lot of videos about Ultima and things like that. 1471 01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:04.039 I found it very interesting. So gg is where I 1472 01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:07.399 found this, Uh, you know, easily played. You just download 1473 01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:09.600 it and runs off scum VM or whatever, so I 1474 01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:12.760 worry about how you work on modern computers or anything. 1475 01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:14.560 Yeah, builts is a package for you, so you could 1476 01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:18.039 just go and start playing it. Yep, wonderful. 1477 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.640 I'm thank you for that history lesson, Mike about a 1478 01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:24.279 game that I will probably never play, but I'm happy 1479 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:25.159 that you were happy playing. 1480 01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:28.000 Yeah, the people if you were watching the seventh Guest 1481 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.840 stream and you're like, this game looks old, don't look 1482 01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:32.159 at King's Quest, he. 1483 01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:33.039 Won't like that. 1484 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:35.960 What do you guys think Dan would have an easier 1485 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.439 time doing the Man Breaker. 1486 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:42.640 Or King's Quest Man Breaker, Man Breaker? I think I 1487 01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.199 think I'd get frustrated, but I could do it. Yeah. 1488 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.359 Dan would lock in after a while, like he fell 1489 01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:49.279 into a rhythm with it. 1490 01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:53.359 Yeah. Yeah, you're obviously different than like speed Running, but 1491 01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:55.600 like you know, with speed Running, I get used to 1492 01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:58.079 having to do the same thing over and over and 1493 01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:00.640 over again and just get better at it. It would 1494 01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:02.840 drive me nuts, but I could beat it. King's Quest. 1495 01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:08.640 You would just change leave the industry, change careers. Yeah. Wow. 1496 01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:12.600 Back to the movie theater buttering popcorn WIT's Protection program. 1497 01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:16.640 Yeah yeah, folks, we're gonna take another quick We're gonna 1498 01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:18.920 take a bricky break, and then we'll be back with 1499 01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:22.520 more games talk and video game news, as reported by 1500 01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:24.680 one Jeff Grubb right after the. 1501 01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:28.079 Rub. 1502 01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:32.079 It's okay, just look at it. Okay, it's fine. 1503 01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:36.600 Wait wait, wait, wait damn, what are you doing here? Oh? 1504 01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:39.079 We like like existentially or what do you mean? No, 1505 01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:41.680 Dan like here a giant bomb covering games? 1506 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:42.199 Oh? 1507 01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:44.760 Oh what I do for a living? 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We had to take a break 1557 01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:13.239 in preparation. We gotta to take it. Take a quick, 1558 01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:17.239 deep breath, and now we're back in games. Uh, Dan, 1559 01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:21.560 you said this earlier, but you've been playing MEGABONK. 1560 01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:23.239 Yeah, And I just remembered. I was looking at my 1561 01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:24.760 notes and I was like, wait, I feel like I 1562 01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:27.199 talked about this. Uh I talked about it last week 1563 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:29.920 a little bit. Yes, you did talk about it a 1564 01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:33.279 bit last seek. So last week you went the discord. 1565 01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:35.880 You're like, guys play Megabank and I went you and 1566 01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:39.279 I talked about it on a little bit on last 1567 01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:42.760 week's Yes on this show last week, and since then, 1568 01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:45.319 apparently you've played a lot more. 1569 01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.000 Yes, yeah, because I feel like I probably was just 1570 01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:52.880 starting it before last week, but it was yeah, three 1571 01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:55.119 D Vampire Survivors all that. So it's like I am 1572 01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:58.800 much much deeper in it now, and uh, it's depth 1573 01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:01.800 becomes more apparent like Vampire Survivors, as you play more, 1574 01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:05.479 and then the actual runs themselves are are changing in 1575 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:07.239 a way that like, you know, when you're trying to 1576 01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:09.560 get very specific quest done where it's like, Okay, now 1577 01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.640 I'm trying to get this one where it's I have 1578 01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:14.479 to activate all these shrines on a map to unlock 1579 01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:16.640 this quest or whatever. So then it's like, okay, well, 1580 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:20.239 I guess I'll use calcium this skateboarding skeleton because he's 1581 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:21.920 got the best move speed. So I'm just kind of 1582 01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:24.960 like flying around the map and I'm prioritizing double jumps 1583 01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:27.640 and air you know, you know, a height of jumps 1584 01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.279 and stuff like that, and I'm just it's less about 1585 01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:32.880 sheer power and beating a boss and more about mobility 1586 01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:35.039 and stuff. And then you're going to go after one 1587 01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:37.920 quest that's more about like getting more you know, shield, 1588 01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.239 like more defense and stuff like that. So I'm gonna 1589 01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:42.359 go after the Age's Shield and I'm going to basically 1590 01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:44.199 try to beef myself up as much as possible, get 1591 01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:46.439 as much armor and shielding as possible so I can 1592 01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:49.359 get that quest done. So I've just got a huge 1593 01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:51.600 checklist of stuff basically right now. And on top of that, 1594 01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.239 I haven't like beaten the game. There's different tiers of 1595 01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:56.800 each area. So there's the forest tier one two three, 1596 01:14:57.039 --> 01:14:58.880 desert one two three, and you have to do different 1597 01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.359 things to kind of move past that. And like, you know, 1598 01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:02.760 the first time you get to a boss and like 1599 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:04.479 a tier two and it's got like one hundred and 1600 01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:07.840 sixty thousand HP and you think you're hitting them with 1601 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:10.359 everything and it's barely even moving that bar down. It's like, 1602 01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:12.039 all right, well, I guess I got to rethink everything 1603 01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:14.520 about like the first ten minutes of this run before 1604 01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:17.000 I get to him. So the depth there is great. 1605 01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.680 I'm constantly unlocking new items, new weapons, new characters, new quests, 1606 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:24.000 so it is it's that Vampire Survivors thing where it's 1607 01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:25.640 like you started up, and you're like, this is fun, 1608 01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:29.279 but how much you know, could this have legs? And 1609 01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:31.800 then it's through these quests and in the way it 1610 01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:34.720 unlocks things over time that that's where the legs become apparent. 1611 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:38.720 And that's very much happening with me with MEGABONK and yeah, 1612 01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:40.960 it's it's gonna be. It's gonna do well on my 1613 01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:43.319 top ten. I think it is. It is and it 1614 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:45.399 also I started playing on the steam deck. It is 1615 01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:48.359 oh perfect. Yeah, that's why that's the only place I 1616 01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:50.680 played it. It rules on the steam Deck. It's yeah, 1617 01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:51.439 I have no idea. 1618 01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:53.920 Yeah, with the sticks on there, like it just feels 1619 01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:56.119 like a good place. Like the controls are good for 1620 01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:56.560 that game. 1621 01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:59.560 Yeah, I thought like because I was like, there's so 1622 01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:01.640 many care and so much action on screen, is this 1623 01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:03.680 going to be a cluster fuck? And then I was 1624 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:05.960 telling Alex Boniello that he should download this and play it, 1625 01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:07.960 and first of all, he immediately text me back' is like, oh, 1626 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:09.039 this is a perfect video game. 1627 01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:09.560 Uh. 1628 01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:12.960 And he realized that, like it's four hundred megabytes it is. 1629 01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:16.239 This is not a big game. Oh shit. Yeah, So 1630 01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:18.640 like I just I continue to love this. It is 1631 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:20.760 my go to. It's you know, if I'm up in 1632 01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:22.840 the morning before you know, we start recording something, I'm 1633 01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:24.760 playing it. If I got an hour before bed, I'm 1634 01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:26.920 playing it. If I got something on the background team 1635 01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:30.600 it's a perfect podcast. Putting a TV show or something 1636 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:32.560 on the background game, it's it's fantastic. 1637 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:35.439 We we should play Risk of Rain two, which is 1638 01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:38.800 I think, okay, I would love to first person multiplayer 1639 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:39.720 version of this. 1640 01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:40.640 Yeah. 1641 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:43.039 I was gonna say, like every time we've talked about 1642 01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:45.760 megabonk on the website, someone will bring up Risk of 1643 01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:49.800 Rain two, and that's at least four players, right, I think, 1644 01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:51.239 so yeah, we could party. 1645 01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:53.840 I just think them just a first one that. 1646 01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:57.079 Was isn't the first one two D? 1647 01:16:58.760 --> 01:16:58.960 Yes? 1648 01:16:59.199 --> 01:16:59.960 Yeah? 1649 01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:03.960 Oh and then they went first person three D, which 1650 01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:04.880 I thought a third. 1651 01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:08.359 Person three D? Yeah, third person? Yeah, it's third. 1652 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:10.279 Person okay, okay, so I'm just thinking of it win 1653 01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:13.079 three D Okay. So yeah, the first one's two D, 1654 01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:14.640 the second one is three D. I love when that 1655 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:17.920 happens when they go from uh an indie game, and 1656 01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:19.760 then they do a sequel and they follow it up. 1657 01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:22.319 With three D version of that. The hell diverse things yep, 1658 01:17:22.640 --> 01:17:26.520 thatch your friends. Yep. Of course I would love to 1659 01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:28.760 try that because yeah, I'm I'm all in on this, 1660 01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:30.560 this type of game player. And again it's just a 1661 01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:32.840 ten minute run. Like you know, Vampires Farmers had the 1662 01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:34.359 thirty minutes and you could do things like the hyper 1663 01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:36.399 mode or the Devil speed mode and things like that, 1664 01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:39.479 but like ten minutes on these it's just like you 1665 01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.119 get in that loop and it is so easy to 1666 01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:43.840 just be like I do one, Why I just unlock 1667 01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:46.000 this weapon. I gotta try out the sniper rifle. I 1668 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:50.600 gotta try like, yeah, it's only dead ten minutes, ten minutes. 1669 01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:54.680 It's potent. It is potent, all right. 1670 01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:56.960 Well, speaking about Poe C, you know, it is very 1671 01:17:56.960 --> 01:17:59.279 ponent And I guess a lot of people associate with 1672 01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:02.079 my personal brain and on the internet gambling, and you 1673 01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:05.760 know what's so good about gambling slot machines. Baby, I 1674 01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:08.720 saw people saying that they would lose me if I 1675 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:09.880 started playing clover Pit. 1676 01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:15.199 Jokes on you, gang, I've been playing clover Pit for 1677 01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:17.359 most of those games. We got code for like a 1678 01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:19.159 month and a half ago because it was supposed to 1679 01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:21.159 come out around Silk Soong and I got pushed back, 1680 01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:23.199 so like, yeah, most of my time playing it was 1681 01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:24.840 in like mid August. 1682 01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:27.680 I think, yeah, yep, Dan, you and I have been 1683 01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:32.359 playing clover Pit. This is a slot machine rogue light 1684 01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:35.920 where I guess, let's just compare it to Bilatro because 1685 01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:38.840 that's the easy comparison. From run to run, you're building 1686 01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:42.560 you have to hit a target of currency. From there 1687 01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:46.199 you can unlock items to affect your different spins. It 1688 01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.439 costs a certain amount of money to do a set 1689 01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:52.880 of spins, and like with actual slot machines, you can 1690 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:56.319 depending on the tier of how much money you're throwing in, 1691 01:18:56.560 --> 01:18:58.680 you either get like a single line the full board 1692 01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:02.079 or is it I forget Dan, is it just the 1693 01:19:02.079 --> 01:19:03.479 single line and then the full board? 1694 01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:06.800 Or I've always just done the full payment unless I 1695 01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:09.279 literally don't have enough gold to cover it, Like okay, 1696 01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:11.600 that seems crazy to not play full Yeah. 1697 01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:17.159 Yeah, I've also only done that, and unfortunately. 1698 01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:20.279 This does scratch the casino itch. But Dan, how have 1699 01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:22.840 you been finding your time with it? I mean, it 1700 01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:26.479 is very good, and it Blottro is the right comparison 1701 01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:28.640 just because of the formats. I mean, it's it's very 1702 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.000 different in that like there is more of a narrative setup, 1703 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:34.039 like you are in this like torture room basically and 1704 01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:36.199 the floor drops out if you can't afford the debt 1705 01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:39.039 and stuff like that. So there's like a creepy almost 1706 01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:41.960 like like inscription type vibe to it. It's first person, 1707 01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:44.680 it's so it's definitely different than Blatron that way, but 1708 01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:47.760 in terms of like like in Blatro you're leveling up oh, 1709 01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:49.920 four of a kind, three of a kind, two pair. Here, 1710 01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:53.399 you're leveling up individual like okay, so sevens or treasure 1711 01:19:53.479 --> 01:19:56.319 chess or clovers, but then also patterns because it's you 1712 01:19:56.319 --> 01:20:01.640 know it's three it's three rows of five slots, you know, 1713 01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:04.960 so fifteen total symbols, so you can level up the 1714 01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:07.079 one that's like okay, straight across, or the one that's 1715 01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:10.039 like a diamond down or like the all fifteen. So 1716 01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:12.680 there's all these different things you can level up, and 1717 01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:14.600 that is kind of how it works. When you start 1718 01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:17.039 a run, it's like, okay, you'll get a charm and 1719 01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:19.319 you have like seven charm slots. You can equip it anytime, 1720 01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:22.039 and it's like, okay, this charm makes it so sevens 1721 01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:25.159 show up more often and okay, so I finished this 1722 01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:27.319 set here and the phone rings in the room. You 1723 01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:28.800 pick it up and you can pick one of three 1724 01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:32.239 different boons basically, and this one will be like, oh, okay, 1725 01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:34.920 this one doubles the value of all sevens and treasure chests, 1726 01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:36.119 and it's like, well, I'm gonna take that because I'm 1727 01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:38.359 focusing on sevens. And then there's a chart next to 1728 01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:40.439 the slot machine at all times that shows the value 1729 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:43.000 the current value of anything, and so yeah, you can 1730 01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:46.079 like basically through the charms and the boons and stuff 1731 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:49.079 like that, you can start tweaking the frequency that certain 1732 01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:52.439 symbols will show up and also their value. So even 1733 01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:54.600 if like you know, a clover or something is the 1734 01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:58.000 least valuable one, you can make it after you know 1735 01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:00.680 a few sets of you know, pulls or that, like, oh, 1736 01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:02.760 it's the most valuable and it shows up the most, 1737 01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:04.479 and you can get terms and stuff that make the 1738 01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:06.680 one other ones show up less. So you can kind 1739 01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:09.800 of really fashion things to what you're shooting for in 1740 01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:13.720 any given run. But at the same time, it is 1741 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:17.159 like look poker and blattro obviously element of luck to it. 1742 01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:20.800 Any gambling there's an element of luck. Obviously, slot machines 1743 01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:24.479 are the most bullshit luck nonsense thing in a casino. 1744 01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:26.359 You can't be good at slots, so. 1745 01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:29.359 They're specifically rigged against you in real life. I was 1746 01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:31.199 gonna ask, and I know what you're gonna do. But 1747 01:21:31.279 --> 01:21:33.119 as you as you guys, as you answer this, like 1748 01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:35.960 the threat this through, do you feel like they try 1749 01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:39.159 to like maybe lean it in your favor instead. 1750 01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:40.199 I don't know. How do you feel about it? 1751 01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:40.600 I don't think. 1752 01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:42.520 I didn't get a sense that they were kimmicking it 1753 01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:44.640 at all. It didn't feel like it was. I mean, 1754 01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:46.119 you can do things where it's like some of the 1755 01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:48.319 charms will give you like, oh, every seventh spin you 1756 01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:50.880 get a bonus to your luck stat, and the luck 1757 01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:54.199 stat will in general like make you know good good 1758 01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:57.439 spins show up more often. Okay, I don't it's not random. 1759 01:21:57.520 --> 01:21:59.199 I think like if your luck stat is up, it 1760 01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.479 will be given you more favorable stuff. Ok But if 1761 01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:04.000 you're not getting luck up, I don't think it's like 1762 01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:07.159 gimmicking in So that's the thing is like it It 1763 01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:09.960 is a little frustrating that, like you can be making 1764 01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:12.840 all the smart decisions you could possibly make, and at 1765 01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:14.399 the end of the day it does kind of like 1766 01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:16.079 you can go up and you've got seven spins to 1767 01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:19.880 hit this debt amount, and you're just nothing's coming up, 1768 01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:21.399 and it's just like about that. 1769 01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:24.039 I think that's like the major detriment to the game, 1770 01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:27.600 because in some roguelikes, even like maybe your first or 1771 01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:30.000 second game in Blatro, or first or second run in 1772 01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:34.680 eighties eighties two, you can get obscenely far just because 1773 01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:37.479 like luck is in your favor and you can use 1774 01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:39.520 the mechanics of the game. Here, you are really just 1775 01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:42.800 limited to the fate of the slot machine, and if 1776 01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:45.680 you just get a bunch of bad spins despite having 1777 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.239 a good build, it does kind of like take the 1778 01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:49.279 momentum out for me. 1779 01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:52.640 Yeah, I think people will point out that, like, well, 1780 01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:55.079 poker's random, right, so what's the difference with Blatro. But 1781 01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:58.439 I think, well, poker's not as random as slot machines, right, 1782 01:22:58.479 --> 01:22:59.159 like we whether. 1783 01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:02.760 It's mathematically, it's not as random. And also if you 1784 01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:05.840 are playing actual poker against actual people, I mean, the 1785 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:09.600 real game is in the psychology and how you play, 1786 01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:12.960 you know, bluffing and things like that. So that's that's 1787 01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.640 a different deal for sure. Slot machine is there is 1788 01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:16.800 just randomness. 1789 01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:19.560 There as the Residents slot Machine. I'm not gonna say 1790 01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:23.399 expert enthusiast here. In comparison to another slot machine game, 1791 01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:27.680 Luck Be a Landlord, I think I would from a 1792 01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:31.239 run to run basis, I think Luck Be a Landlord 1793 01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:35.640 is an easier time because there still is some ramp 1794 01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:39.319 up because of like the weird setting that you're in 1795 01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:42.760 and like the jail cell or weird place that you're 1796 01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:43.279 locked into. 1797 01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:44.880 At least you have a bathroom. You can pee in 1798 01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:47.279 the game if you want. Yeah. 1799 01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:51.359 With a clover Pit, I feel like clover Pit takes 1800 01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:54.119 a little too long to get a run up and going, 1801 01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:56.960 and I kind of just need like that drip feed faster. 1802 01:23:57.159 --> 01:23:59.960 I need that dopamine hit faster to like lock in, 1803 01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.680 and but there's there's too many things going on in 1804 01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:06.319 clover Pit. That being said, I do like the grungy 1805 01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:09.039 setting of it, and I don't think I have that 1806 01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:12.119 bad of a time being locked inside with the slot machine. 1807 01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:14.439 I think all that matters is it has an eighty 1808 01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:17.760 five on Open Critic. I have it in Fantasy Critic. 1809 01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:20.680 It has put me very far ahead of everyone, and 1810 01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:23.800 now I have the projected points just way way out there. 1811 01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:27.800 No one's good guarantearic guaranteed victory, guaranteed victory for your play. 1812 01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:30.920 One more note on that is that like you know, 1813 01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:33.319 with these other games we're talking about, Megabonk and Haites 1814 01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:36.039 that like the rogue light elements, like the stuff that 1815 01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:38.520 actually progresses and it's like, oh, I've unlocked this thing 1816 01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:41.680 are pretty exciting and fun. Like with Hades too, you know, 1817 01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:43.479 we're gonna talk about that in a second. It's like 1818 01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:45.159 you're getting all this new stuff in the hub world. 1819 01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:46.880 You're getting all these new you know, aspects to your 1820 01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:49.039 weapons and stuff, things that are making the game more 1821 01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:51.560 fun to play. I mean, I've played a good amount 1822 01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:53.840 of clover Pit, I'd say over ten hours, and like 1823 01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:56.720 the permanent unlocks are like there are these four drawers 1824 01:24:56.840 --> 01:24:59.640 that you can get a key for basically, and so 1825 01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:02.600 that way, Okay, if a run is ending, you can 1826 01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:04.439 take one of your charms and you can store it 1827 01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:07.239 in a drawer and get it next time. So basically 1828 01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:09.520 it's like, Okay, now I have three drawers unlocked, so 1829 01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:11.920 I can save three of my charms for the next run. 1830 01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:14.960 But it doesn't really change anything about the next run. 1831 01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:17.439 Where it's like Haites, Megabunk these other ones that I 1832 01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:20.840 think are better. They do change the game going forward. 1833 01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:26.600 All right, Gang, final game on the docket over here, 1834 01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:29.880 and you know what, hey, industry, just we're good for 1835 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:30.159 the year. 1836 01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:30.640 We're done. 1837 01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:33.039 Just pack it up, You're okay, Well, we'll see you 1838 01:25:33.079 --> 01:25:34.640 in January of twenty's. 1839 01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:37.479 Still playing Silk Song. Please stop. We do this living 1840 01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:40.800 and we're so underwater with this shit. Imagine just imagine 1841 01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:43.399 being someone with a normal job and just wants to 1842 01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:45.359 play games when they come home from work, and on 1843 01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:47.680 top of responsibilities and stuff. How the fun is anyone 1844 01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:49.479 gonna play through all this shit? I think they. 1845 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:51.520 I think the guys don't do just pick a game 1846 01:25:51.560 --> 01:25:53.960 and just like stick with it, like, yeah, that sounds nice. 1847 01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:55.039 Yeah. 1848 01:25:55.279 --> 01:25:58.199 I think that's why you know, well, we will talk 1849 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.119 about Haities two in a second, but I think that's 1850 01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:04.439 why your war Zones, Call of Duties, your Fortnight's continue 1851 01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:05.640 to be so popular, because I. 1852 01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:07.319 If it just goes to OTA, someone's going to pick 1853 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:08.439 that up and be like, that's what I'm playing for 1854 01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:10.479 the rest of the year, and that sounds lovely. 1855 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:13.680 That's something a really good time. That's probably healthy. 1856 01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:18.279 Yeah, yeah, yeah, please please be healthy, Gang, because I 1857 01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:23.079 don't think I am being healthy with Hades two. I 1858 01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:27.399 had already spent sixty hours in pre release, and I 1859 01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:30.359 thought when I came back to it, when one point 1860 01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:33.000 Oh came out, I was like, I don't remember shit 1861 01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:35.920 of what was happening or who I was like romancing 1862 01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:37.399 and what my progress was. 1863 01:26:37.800 --> 01:26:39.920 Just start from the beginning. What's the worst I could do? 1864 01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:44.119 And I have quickly gotten close back up to sixty 1865 01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:48.399 hours with a new save in Hades two. Gang, how 1866 01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:49.720 have you all been finding your time? 1867 01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:52.840 I I love it. 1868 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:56.920 It's it's a really instantly fantastic game. It I think 1869 01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.720 the way that I've been like processing my feelings from 1870 01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:02.920 the early access to now is they've obviously done some 1871 01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:05.119 stuff that I as someone who's not a game designer, 1872 01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:07.800 someone that doesn't really fully understand all the tweaks you 1873 01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:11.199 can make to something like the dash. Whatever they've done 1874 01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:14.199 to it, they have made it feel right. And I 1875 01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:17.399 bet that it's a combination of animation and cool downs 1876 01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:19.920 and like sound design and all these things to just 1877 01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:23.119 let me, as the player know, here is the rhythm 1878 01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:25.279 of the game, here's the beats per minute of the game. 1879 01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:27.239 This is the sort of rhythm we want you to 1880 01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:30.399 be hitting with this dash as you're attacking enemies. And 1881 01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:33.880 once they nailed that, it's like everything else sall into 1882 01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:37.199 place with playing this game. And then you have literally 1883 01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:42.720 the friendliest rogue Light I've ever played, where the progression 1884 01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:48.840 is so off the charts feel good, constantly hitting the dopamine, 1885 01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:52.600 constantly giving you something new to strive for, constantly giving 1886 01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:55.439 you ways to track what you should be striving for. 1887 01:27:56.119 --> 01:27:57.800 So it lets you know, like even like which door 1888 01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:02.960 to pick. It's that never ever waste your time in 1889 01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:05.119 any other regard other than being a rogue Light. So 1890 01:28:05.159 --> 01:28:07.119 you start to run over, but that is them just 1891 01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:10.279 screaming at you as the player, like, look, trust us, 1892 01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:12.359 we would never waste your time in any of these 1893 01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:15.880 other ways. So please just get on the loop here, 1894 01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.520 and we promise you you're gonna actually feel like you're 1895 01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:21.039 not wasting your time with that rogue Light stuff as well. 1896 01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:23.000 And I think they've hit the mark because, like we 1897 01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:24.720 have people like Sean who did not like the original 1898 01:28:24.760 --> 01:28:27.000 Hades necessarily. I don't think he hated it or anything 1899 01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:29.680 like that, but he didn't love the original Hades. This 1900 01:28:29.720 --> 01:28:32.079 one he has totally falling in love with and I 1901 01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:35.119 think it is still More Hades, but it's also a 1902 01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:37.920 game that's so refined that it's going to capture even 1903 01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:39.039 more people this time around. 1904 01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:42.479 Yeah, it's it's definitely a sequel. That's sorry, Dan, but 1905 01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:45.279 it's definitely like a sequel. Playing not it's not playing 1906 01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:47.600 it safe. But you know, yeah, More Hades that was a. 1907 01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:48.479 Very good formula. 1908 01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:51.920 Actually, I would just like to see that again with 1909 01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:55.960 some different characters, some different weapons, some different ideas. Then 1910 01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:58.479 they find a lot of fun ways to kind of 1911 01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:01.319 plus it up and make it feel like a different experience. 1912 01:29:01.399 --> 01:29:03.439 You know, what things are being carried over exactly, and 1913 01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:05.319 what things are stally different, you know, like instead of 1914 01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:07.880 that mirror of the Fate, you have that Arkana system 1915 01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:12.079 and that's an interesting progression system right there, even just 1916 01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:14.199 you know, big things like yeah, you know, there's the 1917 01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:16.760 typical you go you know, you're going down. You just 1918 01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:18.880 kind of like the four different areas and you fight 1919 01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:21.159 the big boss. But then you can also go up, 1920 01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:24.439 and that's sort of a different thing but also substantial. 1921 01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:27.000 It takes you like I did my first go up, 1922 01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:30.279 my first real go up play through recently, right kind 1923 01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:33.279 of mess around, but like I'm like, man, this is 1924 01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:36.760 just kind of like Haiti's three almost up here. It's 1925 01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:38.760 wild that is also part of the game. 1926 01:29:39.399 --> 01:29:41.319 Yeah, you know, we don't want to go into super 1927 01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:44.199 specifics about like I don't I going up. I feel 1928 01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:45.600 like isn't a spoiler because it's right there in the 1929 01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:48.520 hub world it says, yeah, go up question mark. 1930 01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:50.600 I originally thought it might have been a spoiler when 1931 01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:52.399 Nicky first brought it up forever ago. 1932 01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:54.600 And then you go in the game. You walk five 1933 01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:55.840 feet and you see the words go up. 1934 01:29:55.840 --> 01:30:00.840 You're like, I get what's happening here. 1935 01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:03.359 I I was thinking that, like, Okay, it's gonna have 1936 01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:05.520 a similar structure to the first one, where it's gonna 1937 01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:07.680 have like these four biomes basically, and then you beat 1938 01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:09.239 the big boss or whatever. And it's like I went 1939 01:30:09.279 --> 01:30:11.039 down there and I focused on going down. I beat 1940 01:30:11.079 --> 01:30:13.920 Kronos the first time, and it's like, Okay, I'll kind 1941 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:15.399 of mess around with this going up a little more. 1942 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:19.560 And it's like, oh my, okay, they I'm deep into 1943 01:30:19.600 --> 01:30:22.600 I think I've gotten to as far as up can 1944 01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:24.399 go pretty much. I haven't beaten that yet, but I 1945 01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:27.000 think I've gotten, you know, to the final sequence of that, 1946 01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:29.439 and it's like there is so much more going on 1947 01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:33.439 in this game. Yeah expected, and I once again very 1948 01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:35.479 glad that I skipped the early access period and just 1949 01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:37.199 waited till one point oh, because it's like all just 1950 01:30:37.279 --> 01:30:39.159 hitting me at once, and it's you know, Greb kind 1951 01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:41.640 of touched on this, like, uh, the the Roguelid elements 1952 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:44.560 and how good that is. When I finish a run, 1953 01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:48.920 it's it's so the word addictive is overused, but you 1954 01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.279 know what I mean, Like it's it's you finish that 1955 01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:54.359 you die, and then you don't want to stop when 1956 01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:56.880 you go back to the hub world because it's like, well, 1957 01:30:57.439 --> 01:30:59.520 I got all this shit, I got all these times, 1958 01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:02.319 what do you concoctions can I do? Let's le's see, 1959 01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:04.000 I've got to I can get a new aspect of 1960 01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:05.800 my weapon, I can unlock this thing where I gotta 1961 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:09.039 at least see what I can unlock now. But then 1962 01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:10.520 you do it and you don't want to turn off 1963 01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:12.640 the system because it's like I gotta try him out. 1964 01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:15.680 I just got all this I gotta do a run here, 1965 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:17.520 and when do you stop fucking playing this game? 1966 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:21.840 Like minutes or more right, A lot of times that's 1967 01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:24.000 not just like, oh, we bust a quick one out, 1968 01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:24.960 like oops. 1969 01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:30.039 It's four am y yeah, yeah, I Jordan Minor. I 1970 01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:33.079 saw him saying that this is from eighties one to 1971 01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:35.800 eighties two. This is kind of for him Breath of 1972 01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:37.920 the Wild to Tears of the Kingdom, and I could 1973 01:31:37.920 --> 01:31:40.239 see some people being thrown off by that, but for me, 1974 01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:43.159 project this shit straight into my veins because, like y'all 1975 01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:45.640 have said, there is progress to be made on every 1976 01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:49.560 single run, and I don't know how much fucking dialogue 1977 01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:52.039 is recorded in this game, because most of the time 1978 01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:56.159 people have something to say about something I did, or even. 1979 01:31:55.960 --> 01:31:58.800 Something minor I did in a run. The level of 1980 01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:00.640 detail is crazy. It's like, you know, they will sometimes 1981 01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:03.119 talk about your weapon or the familiar yeah with you. 1982 01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:05.079 But then I got this thing in the last round 1983 01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:06.319 of I so off for the first time where it's 1984 01:32:06.319 --> 01:32:08.880 like I just got bigger, and it's like I got 1985 01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:10.359 to a characters like you can do one of these 1986 01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:11.680 three things for you. One of them was just like 1987 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:15.920 make Melina way bigger and it makes your attacks, you know, 1988 01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:17.039 I have more range and stuff, and I'm like, oh, 1989 01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:19.199 I'm sure, it's just like a range thing and it's like, no, 1990 01:32:19.359 --> 01:32:23.840 my character model got bigger. Rule I had the opposite 1991 01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:26.000 of that one. Oh I didn't know they did. Okay, 1992 01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:28.319 that's amazing. And then like even on the character profile 1993 01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:30.840 like dialogue screens, I'm like, I think they made her 1994 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:34.039 bigger on this too, like that level of detail. And 1995 01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:36.319 I talked to someone and he's like, uh, weird. I'm 1996 01:32:36.319 --> 01:32:37.960 not used to like looking up at you, you know, 1997 01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:42.319 like okay, huh yeah. Everyone reacts to everything. It's it's 1998 01:32:42.439 --> 01:32:43.600 unbelievable with that stuff. 1999 01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:46.279 It's it's funny because I got the opposite of that 2000 01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:49.079 Dan where that character offered me like oh, you can 2001 01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:51.760 get smaller and your Dodge's chance goes up. And then 2002 01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:56.600 her Milanoway's character portrait is significantly smaller, and they pitch 2003 01:32:56.640 --> 01:32:59.760 her voice up so and like where all the characters 2004 01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:02.720 like were you always this height? What's going on. 2005 01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:08.199 When she's bigger? Her voice gets deeper too. Just the 2006 01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:12.039 level of details unbelievable here and just everything, Like I 2007 01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:15.840 don't play early access games, but I very much support 2008 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:18.359 the practice because I think it leads to something being 2009 01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:21.479 so fucking polished by this point, even little things like 2010 01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:24.359 the cross save thing, because I play oh yeah, Switch. 2011 01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:26.000 I play on Steam Deck and I play on PC 2012 01:33:26.640 --> 01:33:28.479 and like it does it end game? So it's like 2013 01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:30.720 when you quit out of the game on Switch, it 2014 01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:33.279 just instantly in game was like hey, think you're good. 2015 01:33:33.359 --> 01:33:34.920 And then I go to my PC. I play on 2016 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:37.640 my PC. Not no issues at all. It's incredible. It's 2017 01:33:37.640 --> 01:33:40.640 that's super nice. I do love that just having that work. 2018 01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:42.800 See I start on PC with that big stream, but 2019 01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:45.680 now mostly I want to play it on my switch 2020 01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:48.279 to in bed and yeah, it just works right there. 2021 01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:50.239 Though I usually don't have this problem, it took me 2022 01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:52.600 a little jesting. I'm like, okay, the smaller screen. 2023 01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:54.920 Sometimes I'm getting hit by things and I'm not sure why, 2024 01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:57.680 especially you know later in runs when there's a lot happening. 2025 01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:00.880 Part of it is almost just a focus thing. But yeah, 2026 01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:03.560 just being able to switch between those two platforms super nice. 2027 01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:06.199 I think we are at that point. 2028 01:34:06.199 --> 01:34:08.600 With Mike mentioned the other day, it's something we've talked 2029 01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:11.479 about a bunch of the just duologies of you put 2030 01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:13.880 out a game and then probably the best thing is 2031 01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:16.960 the developer is take a long time to refine that 2032 01:34:17.119 --> 01:34:21.159 concept to its sharpest point you possibly can, and then 2033 01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:23.000 after that you can go in a different direction and 2034 01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:25.600 do something new, because a third one probably would be 2035 01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:28.079 diminishing returns. So you don't need to go and do 2036 01:34:28.159 --> 01:34:31.479 it a third time. So put everything into that second game. 2037 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:34.520 Make sure it is as as polished as it possibly 2038 01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:37.960 can be. Do decades worth of voice recording. Yeah, And 2039 01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:40.880 I think this is a lesson learned by big studios 2040 01:34:40.920 --> 01:34:43.439 and smaller studios, and it's it's kind of working across 2041 01:34:43.479 --> 01:34:46.199 the board with Silk Song, Here's the Kingdom, the God 2042 01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:49.279 out of war games. Yeah, just everything is sort of 2043 01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:52.039 just hitting the marks with this, and I'm happy to see. 2044 01:34:52.039 --> 01:34:54.560 I think it's the right choice for most developers. 2045 01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:59.039 Like even like the minor changes that they did to 2046 01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:03.640 combat I never used did y'all use the weird diamond 2047 01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:05.199 cast thing in Hades one? 2048 01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:06.760 I never diamond cast. 2049 01:35:07.399 --> 01:35:11.119 It's like like here, your cast is like the circle 2050 01:35:11.279 --> 01:35:12.960 that like, I would use it. 2051 01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:16.439 Yeah, I used that all the first one. The first one. 2052 01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:22.159 It's like, god, I don't quite remember how to you 2053 01:35:22.479 --> 01:35:24.079 shot like a projectile thing? 2054 01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:27.680 Yeah, like the cast, just the cast, the projectile thing 2055 01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:32.840 it was. Yeah, it would like debuff people sometimes or 2056 01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:35.199 something like that, right, Yeah, never use that ship. 2057 01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:37.680 Oh, I use it constantly in this one, like that 2058 01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:40.680 circle and then you can make it fireball you shoot 2059 01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:42.359 and then it like forms at their feet. 2060 01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:44.680 Like that's awesome and it's funny how just like adding 2061 01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:46.960 something that is very typical to games but just wasn't 2062 01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:50.640 in Haities one, Like you have Manna now right, Like, oh, 2063 01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:54.039 that changes the complexion of this experience now. 2064 01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:57.439 Also, everyone in this game is hot. 2065 01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:04.079 I hate it. I I'm opening my mind to that. Yeah, 2066 01:36:04.119 --> 01:36:06.720 you know what, because I'm I'm my brain doesn't typically 2067 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:08.199 think that, And like I knew that was the thing 2068 01:36:08.199 --> 01:36:10.039 everyone talked about with the first one, and so like 2069 01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:12.479 I wanted to investigate this time, and I'm like, I'm 2070 01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:15.039 going to think about if these characters are hot this time. 2071 01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:18.640 And I tell you, folks, I think uh. I saw 2072 01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:22.840 the Selini there and I saw Harah and I was like, 2073 01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:26.640 if these were real people, they'd be very attractive. Yeah. 2074 01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:33.079 I want to avoid Hades two spoilers as much as 2075 01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:37.079 possible because the game is still super duper fresh for people. 2076 01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:41.039 But you said something at the end near the end 2077 01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:45.680 of the Hades two marathon stream you did where you 2078 01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:49.720 were saying that you started to build distrust for whatever reason, 2079 01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:53.039 of Hecate or yeah, that's how you say it, right. 2080 01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:56.600 Ever since you said that, which mommy with abs. Ever 2081 01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:59.239 since you said that and I've played the game, I'm like. 2082 01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:06.800 Hmmm, no, I don't trust this person, not Nemesis, which 2083 01:37:07.119 --> 01:37:09.199 he but then like there's also Nemesis, which is kind 2084 01:37:09.199 --> 01:37:09.600 of a simile. 2085 01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:12.159 Nemesis is like clearly like supposed to be adversarial, and 2086 01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:13.399 so you're supposed to feel that way. 2087 01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:17.800 Just three of Ripley with Suline. Since then, I am 2088 01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:19.319 fully back on board trusting her. 2089 01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:21.720 I do not believe. I also think it might go 2090 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.039 which is the other way, maybe why it's gonna happen again. 2091 01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:29.600 But no, right now I would be upset and shocked. 2092 01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:31.880 I know, I think she's on my side. I think 2093 01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:35.079 she loves me, okay, h paternally. 2094 01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:42.079 Also, I it seems like a small addition to this game. 2095 01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:46.239 I don't think this is spoilers, but you have familiars 2096 01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:50.039 in this game now. Yeah, he's got my friend Jesus Christ. 2097 01:37:50.319 --> 01:37:56.079 I couldnot not roll up to fight Grandpa of Time 2098 01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:58.079 without my little frog buddy. 2099 01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:00.479 Oh frog is the best one because the other ones 2100 01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:01.800 look I like the dog, like the bird, like the 2101 01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:03.960 other ones that come later. But like that Frog gets 2102 01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:05.560 past that mini game, wheres I don't don't need to 2103 01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:08.680 be singing with ghosts every second? You know, why don't 2104 01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:11.600 come back to the hub? I was confused first, like 2105 01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:13.479 I didn't get to play the baby game. Oh the 2106 01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:17.479 frog didn't for me. I wish Frog could kill Dora 2107 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:19.359 because I don't need that ghost hanging out. I don't 2108 01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:23.479 like I like Dora. Dora is Aubrey Plaza's character from 2109 01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:26.000 Fucking Parks and Rack and I had great characters. He's 2110 01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:30.000 funny and this is funny. That character sucks. That is 2111 01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:35.560 literally just Aurey as a sick character. No, everything this such. 2112 01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:40.079 Dora. 2113 01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:40.920 I hate Dora. 2114 01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:45.479 I don't like what's her face that leaves trash in 2115 01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:47.000 like our little camp. 2116 01:38:47.119 --> 01:38:48.760 Oh yeah, I don't like her either, tank girl. 2117 01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:50.960 I like how she calls me babe, though I like 2118 01:38:51.039 --> 01:38:54.760 her weird like you babe vibe. Yeah, she called me 2119 01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:59.560 babe all the time. I don't like the Riss character. Yeah, 2120 01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:06.399 I like I, you know we I became very familiar 2121 01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:09.479 with like the gods that were would present boons in 2122 01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:12.600 Hades one, and I was kind of disappointed that one 2123 01:39:12.640 --> 01:39:16.239 of them didn't give you uh boons from your runs 2124 01:39:16.479 --> 01:39:19.720 in Hades two until I ran into them when you 2125 01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:23.760 go up and uh oh boy uh showing a lot 2126 01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:24.319 of skin. 2127 01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:25.399 A lot of skin. 2128 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:33.000 Uh talking about do you see you see like the 2129 01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:39.560 like the the cum gutters, the bones, the vagina bones. 2130 01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:45.920 Yeah, with one of them, the vagina bones, the cum gutters. Anyway, 2131 01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:47.359 my face. 2132 01:39:48.239 --> 01:39:50.239 He loves it, but he kind of hates it. I 2133 01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:54.960 think he's repulsed and loves it. Okay, Oh, I'm sorry. 2134 01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:56.079 We're we done with Hades two. 2135 01:39:56.239 --> 01:40:00.000 I thought was a natural conclusion. 2136 01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:04.399 That's that's I think we have to be. Yeah, all right, okay, 2137 01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:10.439 I have news. Yeah, hello, everybody, let's go. I don't know. 2138 01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:14.479 EA is going private in a fifty five billion dollars 2139 01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:19.159 Saudi backed deal. Saudi Arabia, through its public investment fund, 2140 01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:23.199 is acquiring EA in that fifty five billion dollar leveraged buyout. 2141 01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:25.159 We'll get back to that in a second, marking the 2142 01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:27.680 second largest deal in gaming history. It's one of the 2143 01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:32.000 largest leveraged buyouts ever for a company to go private. Really, honestly, 2144 01:40:32.039 --> 01:40:34.239 it is the biggest one ever. The move is part 2145 01:40:34.279 --> 01:40:37.239 of Saudia Arabia's larger strategy do invest thirty eight billion 2146 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:40.319 dollars and becoming a gaming powerhouse and gain control of 2147 01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:44.800 cultural IP. Analysts view the deal as a soft power play. 2148 01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:47.800 Now that is just some analysts. Really, no one knows 2149 01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:49.880 exactly what's going on here. We're just trying to kind 2150 01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:53.520 of piece together based on the moves and context clues. 2151 01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:56.880 And then Saudi Arabia's stated goals. You know, they want 2152 01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:01.640 to have their hand in in cultural relevancy, and that means, hey, 2153 01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:05.720 EA owns all the Madden and FIFA all these other things. 2154 01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:08.760 EA football Club, I should say, Battlefield is about to 2155 01:41:08.760 --> 01:41:11.119 pop off, Apex legends. These are big things, things you 2156 01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:14.359 can make movies about, or things that come out every year, 2157 01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:16.880 like Madden to just make butt loads of money and 2158 01:41:16.960 --> 01:41:19.640 you say mad and everyone knows what it is. Sounds 2159 01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:23.319 like Saudi Arabia is interested in staking out that position 2160 01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:29.039 of having IP intellectual property that matters to people globally. 2161 01:41:30.079 --> 01:41:31.039 The reason that. 2162 01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:34.399 We're believing that that's what they want is because they're 2163 01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:37.920 spending a lot more money on EA than EA is 2164 01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:40.520 actually worth. If you look at how much money they make, 2165 01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:44.600 the growth potential, the twenty five percent premium they're paying 2166 01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:46.720 on the stock, price to get to this fifty five 2167 01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:49.720 billion dollar number is kind of hard to understand. It's 2168 01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:53.000 also like a deal you can't refuse if you're EA. 2169 01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:55.319 That's why this is going through because it's they kind 2170 01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:58.279 of can't refuse this that this is way more growth 2171 01:41:58.479 --> 01:42:00.439 or way more value than they would be able to 2172 01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:02.439 grow over the next five to ten years unless some 2173 01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:07.439 miracle happens. The troublesome thing here is like, Okay, what 2174 01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:10.479 does this mean for the future of EA and the 2175 01:42:10.479 --> 01:42:13.079 people who make its games and the people and and 2176 01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:14.920 you know, the future of those franchises. Are we going 2177 01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:16.840 to get, you know, the same games from EAS that 2178 01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:18.680 we have been getting, Well, we have them getting a lot, 2179 01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:21.399 so you know, that's one side of it, but the 2180 01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:25.520 other side is probably not. And there's a couple of 2181 01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:29.479 reasons for that. Uh, the big one being this leveraged buyout, 2182 01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:31.960 which you know, the story is kind of just happened yesterday. 2183 01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:34.720 We didn't talk about this on Game this Morning's that's a. 2184 01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:35.720 Key issue here. 2185 01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:39.760 So twenty billion dollars of the fifty five billion dollars 2186 01:42:40.319 --> 01:42:44.119 is being funded by debt that JP Morgan is you know, 2187 01:42:44.159 --> 01:42:47.439 basically lending to. 2188 01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:47.000 Get this deal. 2189 01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:50.119 Across the finish line, and that twenty billion dollars of 2190 01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:54.760 debt will go onto EA's books. So basically, Jared Kushner 2191 01:42:54.800 --> 01:42:57.560 and Saudi Arabia they're spending some money and then they're 2192 01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:00.439 going to put the company that they're buying into debt 2193 01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:03.560 so that they can own that company. That means EA will. 2194 01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:04.399 Have to service that debt. 2195 01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:06.880 They will have to pay the interest payments on that 2196 01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:09.960 debt going forward to the tune of about a billion 2197 01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:13.640 dollars a year. Now that that sounds vaguely familiar, this 2198 01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:15.920 is exactly what happened to Toys r Us back in 2199 01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:19.079 the mid two thousands. Was Toys r Us got had 2200 01:43:19.079 --> 01:43:23.000 a leveraged buyout and some vulture capitalists went in there 2201 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:25.840 and they used debt to buy the company, and they 2202 01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:27.479 put that debt on Toys r Us and then Toys 2203 01:43:27.520 --> 01:43:29.359 r Us went bankrupt, and everyone's like, people aren't buying 2204 01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:31.880 toys anymore. It's like, no, Toys r Us was doing 2205 01:43:31.960 --> 01:43:34.159 just fine. They just couldn't service their debt because it 2206 01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:38.199 was so astronomical. There is a difference here. EA is 2207 01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:42.279 pretty profitable, like four to five billion dollars a year 2208 01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:45.600 profitable thanks to stuff like Madden Ultimate Team and FIFA 2209 01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:49.359 Ultimate Team again EA Football Club Ultimate Team now and 2210 01:43:49.439 --> 01:43:50.880 a bunch of other things, and they have it. They 2211 01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:55.000 haven't like fully like realized the possibility for their their 2212 01:43:55.039 --> 01:43:57.520 their plays in the mobile space, right Madden has not 2213 01:43:57.600 --> 01:43:59.920 been as popular on mobile as it maybe should be 2214 01:44:00.119 --> 01:44:03.399 at a certain point. But they are going to have 2215 01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:06.600 to probably cut costs to service that debt. And what 2216 01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:09.279 is their plan for cutting costs? Well, the rumor is 2217 01:44:09.319 --> 01:44:11.920 Electronic Arts, which has been sold for fifty five billion 2218 01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:14.479 dollars to a group including Silver Lake, Saudi Arabia's public 2219 01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:17.560 investment fund, and Affinity Partners. Again that's Jared Kushner's company, 2220 01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:20.720 which is mostly backed by Saudi Arabian money. The new 2221 01:44:20.720 --> 01:44:24.399 owners plan to significantly cut operating costs and boost profits 2222 01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:28.239 through the enhanced use of AI, helping them manage a 2223 01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:31.239 large debt load. Stockholders will receive two hundred and ten 2224 01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:33.520 dollars per share. So the idea here is like you 2225 01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:36.479 could see how this happens right now, right because Battlefield's 2226 01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:39.560 about to come out, so there's a big potential win 2227 01:44:39.680 --> 01:44:44.039 here very soon. They have not like fixed the problem 2228 01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:46.279 that EA Football Club had last year, but they are 2229 01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:48.640 about to kind of get into a new run with that, 2230 01:44:48.720 --> 01:44:50.079 and maybe they can be like, oh, things are going 2231 01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:53.279 to get better, so we have some positive notes here, 2232 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:56.319 and then hey, sure we're not. We don't have these 2233 01:44:56.359 --> 01:45:00.359 massive growth opportunities to service to service this debt, but 2234 01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:02.680 we are going to start saving a ton of money 2235 01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:06.359 by cutting jobs, and so we're going to have fewer 2236 01:45:06.399 --> 01:45:08.399 people we have to pay, and that's where the money's 2237 01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:10.000 going to be made. That's where the margins are going 2238 01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:13.319 to come from. So y'all, I think this is pretty bad. 2239 01:45:13.720 --> 01:45:15.119 I think this is pretty bad for the people who 2240 01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:17.760 make video games at electronic arts, not that anyone was 2241 01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:19.720 out there thinking it would be good, but also we 2242 01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:22.000 just you know, this is we're still parsing this, we're 2243 01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:25.279 still figuring this out. I think that's the best summation 2244 01:45:25.399 --> 01:45:27.359 I can give of what this is going to mean 2245 01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:30.600 for now, and then also add the caveat there that 2246 01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:32.800 we don't really know how it's all going to shake out. 2247 01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:35.199 Things could be different a month from now, a year 2248 01:45:35.239 --> 01:45:37.359 from now, and it could look a lot worse, or 2249 01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:40.720 maybe it won't be as bad as the worst prognosis 2250 01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:43.920 as it feels like in this moment, quick, How do 2251 01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:44.960 quick all feel about this? 2252 01:45:45.119 --> 01:45:46.279 Yeah? Please? Yeah? Quick? 2253 01:45:46.319 --> 01:45:49.479 Tangent though, Greb, I was catching up on last week's 2254 01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:52.560 BombCast after I got raptured, and it was news to 2255 01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:57.279 me when you broke down that Satya Nadella, Microsoft's CEO. Right, yes, 2256 01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:03.880 uses several AI agents all the time, A decisions. Yes, 2257 01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:07.399 there's something wrong about that. 2258 01:46:07.520 --> 01:46:11.439 And it's if a billion dollar paid ceo can't see that. 2259 01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:14.720 I don't, I don't want to windows anymore. 2260 01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:18.199 Gang, Yeah, I mean it's it's it's just. 2261 01:46:20.920 --> 01:46:22.760 Sorry, sorry. And this is the richest people in the 2262 01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:23.439 world love AI. 2263 01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:23.840 I don't. 2264 01:46:23.920 --> 01:46:25.720 I don't know why. I guess it's just some other 2265 01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:28.319 thing that makes them feel special or not have to 2266 01:46:28.439 --> 01:46:30.640 deal with the common people. I don't know what it is. 2267 01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:33.039 I mean, it's very clear what it is. 2268 01:46:33.079 --> 01:46:37.199 It is they can take all of the expertise that 2269 01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:40.960 has been gained through human effort and they can lock 2270 01:46:41.079 --> 01:46:44.880 that up behind AI, and then they can control the AI. 2271 01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:47.279 That is a tool that they can own, because really 2272 01:46:47.399 --> 01:46:51.199 only the richest corporations have the capability to run a 2273 01:46:51.279 --> 01:46:56.359 global AI system that requires just gigawatts and tara watts 2274 01:46:56.479 --> 01:47:01.159 and and beyond of energy to run and then they 2275 01:47:01.159 --> 01:47:04.600 can have a monopoly on expertise. Is this idea, and 2276 01:47:04.720 --> 01:47:07.319 then if we want to access that, we have to 2277 01:47:07.359 --> 01:47:08.520 go through them now. 2278 01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:11.560 To get it. That's the idea. Whether or not that. 2279 01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:13.760 Actually is how it will play out, well, we'll see, 2280 01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:17.439 but that is definitely the idea, is they can you know, yeah, 2281 01:47:17.479 --> 01:47:18.000 go ahead. 2282 01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:21.279 Jam, I understand the world of done now, I get it. 2283 01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:24.640 Computers are bad. We'll just make one dude a computer 2284 01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:26.680 for us. And he just rolls his eyes back and 2285 01:47:26.680 --> 01:47:28.159 it's like, all right, I got the math. 2286 01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:30.079 Gang boy. 2287 01:47:30.119 --> 01:47:33.600 If you I mean, you know, I bet things like 2288 01:47:34.279 --> 01:47:38.720 things like Madden and Football Club and SIMS are gonna 2289 01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:41.600 roll along here. The quality might go down if it keeps. 2290 01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:43.399 You know, if there's a lot of that workload is 2291 01:47:43.439 --> 01:47:47.159 done by AI, you do wonder about things like, you know, 2292 01:47:47.239 --> 01:47:49.960 that next mass effect by Aware, a company that you know, 2293 01:47:50.039 --> 01:47:54.079 seems like it's kind of on desk door anyway, what's 2294 01:47:54.119 --> 01:47:56.600 gonna happen with that? What's gonna happen with Skate, which 2295 01:47:56.640 --> 01:47:59.399 is only an early access. They don't have to actually 2296 01:47:59.520 --> 01:48:01.039 do any more on that game. They don't have to 2297 01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:03.840 quote unquote release that game. And you know, I was 2298 01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:06.439 really enjoying it. I would love to see Skate refined 2299 01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:10.920 into a better full release experience. I don't know how 2300 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:13.119 much were they're gonna do with that. I mean cause 2301 01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:15.399 even things that they pulled away from that, they kind 2302 01:48:15.399 --> 01:48:18.079 of stopped making Need for Speed recently, which seemed like 2303 01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:19.000 a cornerstone. 2304 01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:23.800 I think after stopping making uh the uh, the the 2305 01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:27.279 other racing games that they've done they can't burn burnout. 2306 01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:29.079 But then also all the ones that like they acquired 2307 01:48:29.079 --> 01:48:31.199 code Masters, and then they're like, we're gonna stop making 2308 01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:33.399 some of those code Masters games, not even making Need 2309 01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:36.680 for Speed, So why would they continue making Colin mccraze dirt. 2310 01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:41.039 Or whatever the fuck it's called. Yeah, Colin, it's. 2311 01:48:42.479 --> 01:48:44.680 You know, and none of that even gets into uh 2312 01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:48.119 is Saudi Rabian blood money and uh killing journalists and 2313 01:48:48.159 --> 01:48:51.479 having actual slavery, uh you know, not not like the 2314 01:48:51.520 --> 01:48:54.039 worst kind of chattel slavery we've ever had in human history, 2315 01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:58.000 but slavery. And you know, it's always worth pointing out 2316 01:48:58.039 --> 01:49:01.119 that the you know, capitalism is kind of rough everywhere, 2317 01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:04.079 and uh, you know, it's not like I feel wonderful 2318 01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:07.000 about my own current government or anything like that, but 2319 01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:09.800 we can clearly see the failings of the Saudi Arabian 2320 01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:12.800 Kingdom and the people that are in control there, and 2321 01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:14.960 how they are trying to use money to soften their 2322 01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:19.960 image by you know, through sports and through entertainment and 2323 01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:24.439 through wrestling and not usually not typically through actually softening 2324 01:49:24.479 --> 01:49:27.439 many of their positions, such as not killing fucking. 2325 01:49:27.199 --> 01:49:33.800 Journalists drive a few years ago, though, Yeah. 2326 01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:36.560 There's skateboards there now, but they have a whole comedy 2327 01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:37.640 festival now everything. 2328 01:49:40.159 --> 01:49:42.720 He's one of us, right, he would have been comedy 2329 01:49:43.079 --> 01:49:47.720 in Saudi Arabia and they did it. Everybody. It's the 2330 01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:50.399 contracts as you actually can't talk about like you actually 2331 01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:51.000 can't do it. 2332 01:49:51.119 --> 01:49:57.720 Yeah, yeah, well you listen, comedy is not about disparaging 2333 01:49:57.800 --> 01:50:00.680 or ridiculing people in power, Dan, Yeah, to be clear. 2334 01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:07.399 That's right. Yeah, that's done that. Yeah, stupid Yeah. 2335 01:50:07.479 --> 01:50:10.680 I I I'm coming out of this feeling like, uh well, 2336 01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:13.720 we're at the end of something. We are at the end, 2337 01:50:13.960 --> 01:50:16.439 like this is the endpoint of a certain kind of 2338 01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:19.840 game publisher, a certain kind of way of making video games. 2339 01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:21.399 Uh Ea. 2340 01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:24.840 Looked around, saw it was still operating under a world 2341 01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:27.279 of capitalism, and said, so, you know, in the old 2342 01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:30.600 Adam Smith's style capitalism. It was, well, let's make a 2343 01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:33.039 better widget, Let's make a better game than anyone else. 2344 01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:36.279 Let's let's find a need in the market and service 2345 01:50:36.319 --> 01:50:38.720 it better than anyone else can, and we will succeed. 2346 01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:44.720 And obviously, clearly, just blatantly, that's not what they're thinking 2347 01:50:44.920 --> 01:50:47.600 at all. They haven't been thinking about that for years. 2348 01:50:47.840 --> 01:50:50.039 But they are so far removed from that that their 2349 01:50:50.159 --> 01:50:53.920 answer to making more money was let's just go become 2350 01:50:54.079 --> 01:50:58.159 basically an arm of the state, of a blood money regime. 2351 01:50:59.439 --> 01:51:01.760 And you know, this is one of the last standing 2352 01:51:01.880 --> 01:51:05.880 sort of American publishers out there that was independent of 2353 01:51:05.960 --> 01:51:09.000 a major, even bigger corporation. I guess that's weird because 2354 01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:10.640 EA itself is a major corporation. 2355 01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:12.279 But I think people get what we're getting at well. 2356 01:51:12.119 --> 01:51:16.760 Even the major corporations like US based gaming major corporations, 2357 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:20.760 and now is just Take two and Microsoft, and Microsoft 2358 01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:23.560 like gaming is not their main thing at all, really 2359 01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:26.199 in Take two is just so heavily invested in a 2360 01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:31.680 few huge games. So yeah, it just it just isn't 2361 01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:35.159 like it was. It's kind of wild how quickly that 2362 01:51:35.279 --> 01:51:38.359 all change, and how little of the power bas of 2363 01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:40.560 Games seems to be based in America right now. 2364 01:51:40.760 --> 01:51:43.800 Yeah, they're I mean EA's office is based out of 2365 01:51:44.359 --> 01:51:46.800 or I guess they're major US offices based out of 2366 01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:49.960 Redwood City, like a couple of twenty thirty minutes away 2367 01:51:49.960 --> 01:51:53.439 from me, and all the local news is just it 2368 01:51:53.479 --> 01:51:58.000 seems like a moratorium of like man Ripea, You're gone 2369 01:51:58.640 --> 01:52:03.159 forever now, despite you know, this deal just happening. It's 2370 01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:06.520 it's very also crazy for that part of the Bay 2371 01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:10.000 Area as well, because you know, they're not quite the 2372 01:52:10.159 --> 01:52:13.840 tech boom, but like still a boom, and now all 2373 01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:16.159 those big players in that area of Redwood City are 2374 01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:17.560 like slowly going away. 2375 01:52:18.600 --> 01:52:18.800 Yep. 2376 01:52:19.079 --> 01:52:21.600 It's uh yeah at the end of something like what 2377 01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:24.399 happens next, you know, as something like we come on 2378 01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:26.479 this podcast every week, we talk talk about the games 2379 01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:28.840 we've been playing, and I bet if we like did 2380 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:32.079 some if we charted it out and we like normalized 2381 01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:34.600 for sort of the games that we cover out of 2382 01:52:34.640 --> 01:52:37.239 obligation because they're big games and they have big marketing 2383 01:52:37.239 --> 01:52:39.359 budgets behind them and people are wondering about them. 2384 01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:42.199 I think our percentage of the stuff that we talk. 2385 01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:45.600 About is you know, shrinking when in the idea that 2386 01:52:45.640 --> 01:52:48.840 it comes from one of these big publishers and them 2387 01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:50.960 wanting to like sort of fight back for that market 2388 01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:53.119 share and that mind share. Like that fight is gone, 2389 01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:56.079 and so yeah, that's the thing that's ending. And then 2390 01:52:55.960 --> 01:53:00.359 in the meantime, we do have numerous and countless indie 2391 01:53:00.359 --> 01:53:02.439 studio stepping up, filling in these spaces. So I'm not 2392 01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:04.560 really worried about gaming overall or the kinds of things 2393 01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:09.039 that I enjoy, but the ability for someone to enter 2394 01:53:10.159 --> 01:53:12.760 video games as an industry to make a living, it's 2395 01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:15.880 going to probably get more difficult than it already has 2396 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:16.760 been going forward. 2397 01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:21.800 And that's sad and troublesome. All right, let's keep going here. 2398 01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:24.760 Super Mario Galaxy Plus Super Mario Galaxy two reviews popped 2399 01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:28.079 off this morning, you know, doing pretty all right. Eighty 2400 01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:30.840 six on Open Critic mostly wanted to include this because 2401 01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:33.720 we were like wondering, like, how remastered is this? 2402 01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:35.399 Like what's happening here? Well? 2403 01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:37.760 Did they figure out the pointer controls? Well, those are 2404 01:53:37.760 --> 01:53:40.479 the a couple of things here. The remastering of the visuals, 2405 01:53:40.479 --> 01:53:44.239 people repeatedly in reviews said that was really well done. 2406 01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:46.720 This is a pretty decent step up for these games. 2407 01:53:46.960 --> 01:53:49.840 They look really good on Switch and Switch to It 2408 01:53:49.880 --> 01:53:52.000 is on both I believe, yes it is. And then 2409 01:53:52.359 --> 01:53:54.600 the other thing was the pointer controls for stuff like 2410 01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:59.520 Yoshi Stung not great but not so bad or anything 2411 01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:01.840 like that. It's going to ruin the experience. This is 2412 01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:04.119 out the same day as Ghost to Yota, right, I 2413 01:54:04.199 --> 01:54:05.439 might I might play these first. 2414 01:54:05.479 --> 01:54:07.520 I don't know. Ye, yeah, you have to do. Like 2415 01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:09.680 Galaxy one had more of the motion gimmicks, like you know, 2416 01:54:09.760 --> 01:54:12.159 hold the the WE remote and then kind of tilted. 2417 01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:13.399 I can't remember how they did that for three D 2418 01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:15.600 all Stars, like because you don't have to detach the 2419 01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:17.680 joy con, you can play with no pro controller. 2420 01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:19.560 Yeah, I think you sort of there was a button. 2421 01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:21.159 I think there was a button to sort of like 2422 01:54:21.560 --> 01:54:24.039 set the center and then you go and then it 2423 01:54:24.079 --> 01:54:25.800 was like, okay, now now you could sort of just 2424 01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:28.840 do regular motion controls using the gyro the accelerometer. 2425 01:54:28.920 --> 01:54:32.279 Probably, yeah, sure, yeah, it mostly words. I I'm really 2426 01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:34.399 looking forward to these. I like the Galaxy games a ton, 2427 01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:36.319 and it's been a while since I played too, because 2428 01:54:36.439 --> 01:54:39.520 you know, it hasn't been on Switch. I played through 2429 01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:43.039 Galaxy one again when we had three D All Stars. 2430 01:54:43.680 --> 01:54:46.039 But yeah, I'm planning to play this like on Thursday 2431 01:54:46.079 --> 01:54:47.439 on the site when it's out. 2432 01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:47.800 Yea. 2433 01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:50.840 Even with all these new big games, I'm kind of 2434 01:54:50.840 --> 01:54:53.600 the same where I'm gone to probably take a break 2435 01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:56.399 and play through Mario Galaxy too. I just like the 2436 01:54:56.399 --> 01:54:59.640 three d mar games and these one specifically so much 2437 01:54:59.720 --> 01:55:02.039 that I'm super excited about it. 2438 01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:04.039 Is it a switch To edition or is it just 2439 01:55:04.079 --> 01:55:07.560 a switch one edition that plays on two that's a 2440 01:55:07.640 --> 01:55:10.439 switch upgrade. That's a good question. 2441 01:55:10.680 --> 01:55:12.840 I think I think there is a switch To edition. 2442 01:55:13.079 --> 01:55:15.199 I think there is, but I'm. 2443 01:55:15.039 --> 01:55:18.760 Searched for Nintendo's website and I'm just seeing the switch one. 2444 01:55:18.920 --> 01:55:22.000 I hope there's a like Wwitch two. I think I 2445 01:55:22.039 --> 01:55:22.840 think that's the case. 2446 01:55:22.880 --> 01:55:26.560 But uh, very feel like everyone's a switch one game 2447 01:55:26.560 --> 01:55:28.479 that runs a little better on switch To. It might 2448 01:55:28.520 --> 01:55:30.119 not be a full switch to edition thing. 2449 01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:33.800 Yeah, okay, there's there's just a free switch to patch, 2450 01:55:33.840 --> 01:55:35.800 but that that would be I think that's what we're 2451 01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:37.760 good qualifying. Is what we're looking for, like a passign 2452 01:55:37.800 --> 01:55:39.439 that actually makes it a little run a little bit better. 2453 01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:40.680 All right. 2454 01:55:40.720 --> 01:55:43.800 A new PS five Pro could soon release a new, 2455 01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:46.680 slightly improved PS five Pro is expected to be released 2456 01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:50.119 in Europe soon, following the recent quiet introduction of a 2457 01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:51.720 different PS five Slim. 2458 01:55:52.119 --> 01:55:53.279 The reporting here. 2459 01:55:53.199 --> 01:55:56.239 Makes it sound like it could have actual improvements to 2460 01:55:56.399 --> 01:55:58.479 how it processes games and visuals. 2461 01:55:58.560 --> 01:55:59.119 I doubt that. 2462 01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:02.319 I bet it's going to be more power efficient, but 2463 01:56:02.960 --> 01:56:04.880 I'll bring this up with this next story as well. 2464 01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:07.319 Sony is reportedly set to release an updated PS five 2465 01:56:07.399 --> 01:56:10.960 Dual Sense controller with a removable battery. A new report 2466 01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:15.039 suggest Sony will release a revised Dual Sense in November, 2467 01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:19.319 featuring a removable, rechargeable battery. This new controller will replace 2468 01:56:19.319 --> 01:56:22.399 the current Dual Sense models. The report also mentions minor 2469 01:56:22.439 --> 01:56:25.000 revisions to the PlayStation five Pro, which will use three 2470 01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:25.800 percent less powers. 2471 01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:27.880 So there you go. There's a kind of exactly what 2472 01:56:28.279 --> 01:56:31.920 we're speculating there. Yeah, man, I hate that. 2473 01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:34.319 I kind of hate the places five Pro's existence because 2474 01:56:34.359 --> 01:56:36.880 it's too expensive for me to really justify buying one. 2475 01:56:37.199 --> 01:56:40.079 But also knowing that when I play a Placetation five 2476 01:56:40.119 --> 01:56:42.680 game now, I'm not playing the best version. It's maybe 2477 01:56:42.680 --> 01:56:44.640 that's one of the reasons why I haven't driven into 2478 01:56:44.760 --> 01:56:47.119 Yota yet, even though I could have. It's like, yeah, 2479 01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:49.920 I'm gonna play some compromised version of this game, now, 2480 01:56:50.039 --> 01:56:51.880 I guess, and I know if I sit down with 2481 01:56:51.960 --> 01:56:54.560 it and I'm playing it, I'm gonna think it looks great. 2482 01:56:54.680 --> 01:56:56.800 I'm not gonna know what I'm missing, but it is 2483 01:56:56.840 --> 01:56:58.560 a little bit in the back of my head Gertzman 2484 01:56:58.600 --> 01:56:59.760 would have played it on the place station. 2485 01:57:03.079 --> 01:57:05.960 The frustrating thing, Mike is that, like the narrative around 2486 01:57:06.000 --> 01:57:07.760 the Pro over the last month or so has been, 2487 01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:11.640 shit's not taken advantage of this thing, and it's. 2488 01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:12.119 Really not worth it. 2489 01:57:12.159 --> 01:57:13.920 And then of course Ghost to Yota comes out and 2490 01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:16.319 it's like, no, actually, this one totally looks awesome on 2491 01:57:16.359 --> 01:57:16.720 the Pro. 2492 01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:18.119 It's like, god, damn it. Now. 2493 01:57:18.159 --> 01:57:19.720 I was just like really over it, and then I 2494 01:57:19.720 --> 01:57:21.359 hear that, and that's the game. I think I'm doing 2495 01:57:21.359 --> 01:57:23.720 the same thing, Mike, where I might be avoiding it 2496 01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:24.720 because I'm not getting. 2497 01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:25.520 The best version or whatever. 2498 01:57:25.560 --> 01:57:29.680 It's stupid, but yeah, and it's I think that the 2499 01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:32.840 Sony is just in a spot here where they are 2500 01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:35.359 trying to position the PS five Pro as a long 2501 01:57:35.479 --> 01:57:38.199 term play where even once the PS six is out, 2502 01:57:38.279 --> 01:57:40.199 PS five Pro will be like a tier below that, 2503 01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:42.159 and there might be a tier above a PS six 2504 01:57:42.199 --> 01:57:45.399 a PS six X or whatever. And I think they 2505 01:57:45.439 --> 01:57:47.399 want to like make the PS five pro cheaper and 2506 01:57:47.479 --> 01:57:50.640 cheaper through these revisions and improving the model and stuff 2507 01:57:50.680 --> 01:57:52.680 like that, so that they can save some money on 2508 01:57:52.720 --> 01:57:54.600 it now while they try to keep it out there 2509 01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:56.920 and keep it relevant. And then I think the same 2510 01:57:56.920 --> 01:57:58.920 thing with the dual sense. I bet this dual sense 2511 01:57:58.920 --> 01:58:00.840 people are going to crack it open him and see 2512 01:58:00.840 --> 01:58:03.079 that it has a lot less components in there, and 2513 01:58:03.119 --> 01:58:05.279 it's just they made it in a cheaper way or 2514 01:58:05.359 --> 01:58:08.680 more affordable way. I'll say, Sony's not exactly usually in 2515 01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:11.560 the business of making their shit shittier, like noticeably shittier. 2516 01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:15.159 But it was a double play. Mic, I'm right behind you. 2517 01:58:15.960 --> 01:58:18.439 But yeah, well, we'll see what happens with this when 2518 01:58:18.479 --> 01:58:20.239 people do get a chance to look at these things, 2519 01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:23.279 And yeah, that that'll sounds like it'll be in November. 2520 01:58:23.279 --> 01:58:23.600 I guess. 2521 01:58:23.600 --> 01:58:26.680 I don't know when they will actually officially announce this stuff, 2522 01:58:26.760 --> 01:58:29.319 or even if they will, maybe it just suddenly appears 2523 01:58:29.359 --> 01:58:32.920 on shelves. 2524 01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:36.479 Sorry, we had people in first and second no outs, 2525 01:58:36.720 --> 01:58:38.399 then we had two outs of guy went to go 2526 01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:39.600 play and got tagged out. 2527 01:58:39.680 --> 01:58:44.760 Oh, he's safe. Ah, challenge that he's safe. He's safe. 2528 01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:46.920 I tell you, sorry, Jeff, what were you saying? 2529 01:58:47.319 --> 01:58:50.399 No, it's okay, I understand. Sorry. 2530 01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:52.800 I don't pay attention to baseball unless I have a 2531 01:58:52.800 --> 01:58:54.399 hot dog and a beer in my hands. 2532 01:58:54.680 --> 01:58:56.880 Yeah, that's well, let's get him one, Mike. I'll get 2533 01:58:56.920 --> 01:58:58.399 the beer for him. You send him a hot dog, 2534 01:58:59.359 --> 01:59:02.199 all right. Five is Sodi's most successful console generation ever, 2535 01:59:02.239 --> 01:59:05.119 and it's not even close. This is it just puts 2536 01:59:05.119 --> 01:59:07.520 in context all like the price increases and the struggling 2537 01:59:07.520 --> 01:59:10.720 to sort of get the the PS five to be cheaper. 2538 01:59:11.279 --> 01:59:13.439 You know, I guess you just do that because it's 2539 01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:16.560 nice to make even more money. But they've made more 2540 01:59:16.600 --> 01:59:17.439 than ever before. 2541 01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:17.640 Now. 2542 01:59:17.680 --> 01:59:20.600 A huge part of that is the PS four generation 2543 01:59:20.680 --> 01:59:23.479 never really ended, so they've made they are they're stacking 2544 01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:27.000 PS four success on top of PS five success or 2545 01:59:27.119 --> 01:59:29.319 you know, vice versa. And I think that that is 2546 01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:32.840 going to be the kind of thing where they are 2547 01:59:32.880 --> 01:59:34.319 going to try to keep that going forward, which I 2548 01:59:34.359 --> 01:59:37.520 think explains why they're so interested in ensuring that the 2549 01:59:37.520 --> 01:59:40.399 PS five pro is relevant long term, because again, I 2550 01:59:40.399 --> 01:59:42.279 think they want people to keep buying that thing. 2551 01:59:42.920 --> 01:59:45.199 As the PS six coming out, which could be two 2552 01:59:45.279 --> 01:59:48.560 years away. They overturned it. He's safe. Okay, now there 2553 01:59:48.560 --> 01:59:50.720 you go, Minch. I'm happy for you. Yeah. 2554 01:59:51.119 --> 01:59:53.840 I mean, does it feel like the most successful place 2555 01:59:53.880 --> 01:59:55.119 theytion generation? To you? 2556 01:59:55.680 --> 01:59:58.680 No? I mean right, because it's it's really not. 2557 01:59:58.800 --> 02:00:01.359 It's like it's because the PS four continues to be 2558 02:00:01.399 --> 02:00:04.119 the most successful generation for them ever, and the PS 2559 02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:07.880 five is, and then more so it's again it's weird 2560 02:00:08.319 --> 02:00:10.840 and it doesn't feel great. So I do wonder like 2561 02:00:10.880 --> 02:00:13.159 if there's a time limit on people being like, well, 2562 02:00:13.520 --> 02:00:15.560 you know, I stuck with this thing, and am I 2563 02:00:15.560 --> 02:00:17.439 going to do this rodeo again with the PS six? 2564 02:00:17.439 --> 02:00:18.319 Am I going to spend. 2565 02:00:18.159 --> 02:00:22.079 Another five hundred or eight hundred dollars on a PS 2566 02:00:22.199 --> 02:00:24.720 six so that I can wait for them for years 2567 02:00:24.720 --> 02:00:25.960 to put out a game I care about? 2568 02:00:26.119 --> 02:00:26.800 Yeah? I don't know. 2569 02:00:26.880 --> 02:00:29.159 I guess we'll see. Again, what other choice to people have? 2570 02:00:29.319 --> 02:00:31.439 Are they going to get an Xbox? Almost certainly not? 2571 02:00:31.960 --> 02:00:32.479 Yeah, exactly. 2572 02:00:32.520 --> 02:00:35.119 They're benefiting so much from kind of being the only 2573 02:00:35.159 --> 02:00:37.680 game of talent, which is why I hope that the 2574 02:00:37.680 --> 02:00:39.720 parody of the switch to because more of a thing, 2575 02:00:39.760 --> 02:00:42.960 we get more throir party reports actually want Nintendo Sony 2576 02:00:43.039 --> 02:00:46.159 to be competing more directed with each other. Again, I 2577 02:00:46.159 --> 02:00:47.760 don't want them to feel like they're on their own 2578 02:00:47.800 --> 02:00:50.720 separate islands that they kind of have for the last 2579 02:00:51.079 --> 02:00:55.960 seven eight more years. Right, So, yeah, you know, and 2580 02:00:56.239 --> 02:00:58.159 Place of five is not a back house by any means. 2581 02:00:58.199 --> 02:01:00.840 And obviously, if you are looking for your console to 2582 02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:03.880 play those very big games still like you're you know, 2583 02:01:03.920 --> 02:01:05.840 a ghosta Yota, You're not gonna play that anywhere else. 2584 02:01:06.079 --> 02:01:08.199 Even if you're just playing the Call of Duty every year, 2585 02:01:08.239 --> 02:01:10.199 this is probably still your best option. 2586 02:01:12.479 --> 02:01:14.279 Let's see the rot. Oh yeah, go ahead, jam please. 2587 02:01:15.119 --> 02:01:17.000 Oh sorry, I just lost my train of thought. I 2588 02:01:17.039 --> 02:01:19.520 was just thinking about baseball and then the plate. Oh. 2589 02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:22.880 I have several friends y'all that bought a PS five 2590 02:01:23.159 --> 02:01:25.720 at launch because they told me, I can't wait to 2591 02:01:25.720 --> 02:01:30.640 play the next Kingdom Hearts. I'm like dogends that for Wow, 2592 02:01:30.960 --> 02:01:33.119 it may not even on this They got. 2593 02:01:33.000 --> 02:01:34.039 Generated the right price. 2594 02:01:34.279 --> 02:01:36.119 Yeah, they didn't have to spend the extra money on 2595 02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:37.920 a more expensive PS five that went up in price 2596 02:01:38.000 --> 02:01:42.760 like two times, So actually the right choice. Despite everything, Uh, 2597 02:01:43.319 --> 02:01:47.039 the Rock Xbox ally and la X finally got their 2598 02:01:47.039 --> 02:01:50.319 real pricing. We've had this story leak over and over again, 2599 02:01:50.359 --> 02:01:53.319 and it was like, you know, the the U Xbox 2600 02:01:53.359 --> 02:01:55.840 ally will be five fifty and the ally X will 2601 02:01:55.840 --> 02:01:56.600 be nine hundred. 2602 02:01:56.800 --> 02:01:57.520 Well that was wrong. 2603 02:01:57.720 --> 02:02:01.199 They're actually six hundred and one thousand dollars. You can 2604 02:02:01.239 --> 02:02:03.439 tell that they probably did want those other prices. They 2605 02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:07.079 were trying to keep it down, but taros and the 2606 02:02:07.119 --> 02:02:09.199 decreasing value of the dollar and a bunch of other 2607 02:02:09.920 --> 02:02:13.279 microeconomic factors for them to make it even more expensive. 2608 02:02:13.800 --> 02:02:17.239 So we've had this question before, but let's do it again. 2609 02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:21.359 At one thousand dollars? Are you interested in the Xbox ally? 2610 02:02:21.439 --> 02:02:24.319 Wait, wait a second, Jeff, that sounds like a scary 2611 02:02:23.920 --> 02:02:25.520 four digit number. 2612 02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:29.600 There, it's nine hundred and ninety nine dollars cent. 2613 02:02:30.079 --> 02:02:32.640 You don't have to spend one thousand dollars on a 2614 02:02:32.720 --> 02:02:33.640 video game system? 2615 02:02:33.680 --> 02:02:36.119 Are you crazy? You're right. I'm bad at math. That's 2616 02:02:36.119 --> 02:02:38.600 why I'm a video games journalist. You're right, you got me. 2617 02:02:39.720 --> 02:02:43.520 Yeah, Hey, it's that's too much. I don't know, but 2618 02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:45.159 I think that's where we're at. It's going to just 2619 02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:48.760 keep being that level of expense for these consoles and 2620 02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:51.880 these devices, and I think they are setting us up 2621 02:02:51.920 --> 02:02:55.159 for a next generation both these companies, Microsoft and Sony, 2622 02:02:55.159 --> 02:02:56.920 but especially Microsoft because why would they do this. 2623 02:02:56.880 --> 02:02:59.520 Again if they can't get the maximum. 2624 02:02:59.079 --> 02:03:02.239 Dollar value out of this hardware, where we might be 2625 02:03:02.279 --> 02:03:05.119 paying one thousand dollars for the like real version of 2626 02:03:05.159 --> 02:03:05.960 the next console. 2627 02:03:06.159 --> 02:03:06.680 I don't know. 2628 02:03:07.199 --> 02:03:11.399 Fun A deep dive on the future of Halo will 2629 02:03:11.399 --> 02:03:13.880 be held next month. Halo Studios announced a Deep Dive 2630 02:03:13.920 --> 02:03:17.560 panel for next month's Halo World Championship on October twenty fourth, 2631 02:03:17.600 --> 02:03:20.359 which will discuss the future of the series. This follows 2632 02:03:20.399 --> 02:03:23.000 up on a previous conversation from last year's Halo World 2633 02:03:23.079 --> 02:03:26.359 Championships and a new Dawn video. Last year, the developer 2634 02:03:26.399 --> 02:03:29.800 formerly known as three four three Industries and rebranded to 2635 02:03:30.439 --> 02:03:33.960 what they call it a Halo Games Studio Halo Videos 2636 02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:35.560 now Halo Studios. 2637 02:03:35.600 --> 02:03:37.640 Yeah, I think so. Yeah. 2638 02:03:37.640 --> 02:03:40.039 They revealed it was that they are working on multiple 2639 02:03:40.079 --> 02:03:43.479 Halo games using the Unro Engine five, and then they 2640 02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:46.279 kind of showed a teaser of some stuff happening unreal. 2641 02:03:46.319 --> 02:03:47.479 So they will probably, they will. 2642 02:03:47.520 --> 02:03:49.880 They will probably follow up on all of that stuff. 2643 02:03:51.560 --> 02:03:54.239 I've not been plugged into, like what the rumor mill 2644 02:03:54.279 --> 02:03:56.199 has been saying about what they might be working on 2645 02:03:56.439 --> 02:03:58.199 or what they could do with like Halo. Could they 2646 02:03:58.199 --> 02:04:01.119 bring you know, Halo one back in, remake that and 2647 02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:03.520 put it out on PlayStation and switch to I think 2648 02:04:03.560 --> 02:04:05.479 people have talked about that. I don't know if there's 2649 02:04:05.520 --> 02:04:07.960 smoke there or something. So I guess my question to 2650 02:04:07.960 --> 02:04:09.920 you guys would be, what do you want from Halo? 2651 02:04:11.680 --> 02:04:16.880 I want from Halo? I mean, I guess I kind 2652 02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:19.479 of just want, like, you know, a good next Halo. 2653 02:04:19.640 --> 02:04:21.479 I liked a lot of things about Halo Infinite. I 2654 02:04:21.479 --> 02:04:24.000 would like to just see them do one of those 2655 02:04:24.159 --> 02:04:27.399 that was more popular and well liked by people, maybe 2656 02:04:27.399 --> 02:04:30.039 one where they can actually make more content for it. 2657 02:04:30.039 --> 02:04:32.000 He's I guess that's why they're doing Unreal Engine five. 2658 02:04:32.359 --> 02:04:35.239 Although I liked the way Hey If it look and 2659 02:04:35.279 --> 02:04:38.000 played a lot if right, maybe it's hard to develop 2660 02:04:38.000 --> 02:04:40.279 for but I do worry with the new engine. We've 2661 02:04:40.319 --> 02:04:43.680 seen some heavy Unreal Engine five games like oh what 2662 02:04:43.720 --> 02:04:45.720 if this doesn't feel as good as Infinite? 2663 02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:46.760 Does? You know? 2664 02:04:47.119 --> 02:04:50.640 We know how people are. People acted like Halo Infinite 2665 02:04:50.720 --> 02:04:53.039 was the plague. If they don't like the way the 2666 02:04:53.079 --> 02:04:55.319 next Halo looks in place, oh Halo if and it's 2667 02:04:55.359 --> 02:04:57.000 gonna be held up on a silver. 2668 02:04:56.760 --> 02:05:00.560 Platter all the suf that'll be fun. Yeah that didn't happen. 2669 02:05:01.079 --> 02:05:03.800 Yeah, I bet it'll be a Halo one remaker. It'll 2670 02:05:03.840 --> 02:05:05.920 be like that, here's a war thing we just got, right, 2671 02:05:06.119 --> 02:05:09.000 A remake, A remaster based on a remaster is an 2672 02:05:09.039 --> 02:05:10.640 excuse to get the thing on PlayStation. 2673 02:05:11.279 --> 02:05:13.279 It's not the most exciting thing, but I still do 2674 02:05:13.439 --> 02:05:16.479 like having the new way to play. You know, I'm 2675 02:05:16.479 --> 02:05:18.520 almost done with reloaded, and it's like, yeah, this feels 2676 02:05:18.560 --> 02:05:21.960 like the remake I played a year ago. Put it 2677 02:05:22.000 --> 02:05:22.560 on the switch to. 2678 02:05:23.800 --> 02:05:26.239 Yeah, I think they'll probably that's that'll probably be something 2679 02:05:26.239 --> 02:05:27.880 that happens with Hayle. I mean, even they did Halo 2680 02:05:27.920 --> 02:05:30.640 Infinite on like switch to and and PlayStation. 2681 02:05:30.279 --> 02:05:30.880 I would take that. 2682 02:05:30.920 --> 02:05:33.159 But they're not going to like go back to supporting 2683 02:05:33.199 --> 02:05:36.239 that game, so that's probably not the pathway forward. 2684 02:05:36.720 --> 02:05:40.600 Boy, there's like a there's a decent chance master Chief 2685 02:05:40.640 --> 02:05:41.479 is in the next semester. 2686 02:05:41.520 --> 02:05:41.960 Brothers. 2687 02:05:42.039 --> 02:05:50.960 I feel like, yeah, oh, if Nintendo even wants them? 2688 02:05:51.319 --> 02:05:56.760 Is that from Geist? Is that the Geist Man? All? Right? 2689 02:05:56.920 --> 02:05:58.039 Last couple of stories here. 2690 02:05:58.239 --> 02:06:00.439 Expect the Third Entry and Final Fantasy s and Remake 2691 02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:06.760 trilogy to change things up again. Naokihamaguchi was interviewed and said, hey, 2692 02:06:07.039 --> 02:06:08.680 you know, we had the first remake and it was linear. 2693 02:06:08.720 --> 02:06:11.319 We had the second one it was open world, and 2694 02:06:11.439 --> 02:06:15.199 we're gonna change things up again for the third one. Mike, 2695 02:06:15.279 --> 02:06:16.960 I asked you on another show, but like, what do 2696 02:06:16.960 --> 02:06:17.840 you think that means? 2697 02:06:18.479 --> 02:06:20.119 It's kind of hard to tell because you have the 2698 02:06:20.159 --> 02:06:23.600 linear one, then you have the open world one, and 2699 02:06:24.399 --> 02:06:25.520 I'm like, well, what else? 2700 02:06:25.600 --> 02:06:26.359 What else is there? 2701 02:06:26.359 --> 02:06:29.079 When you think about what normal fisty seven was, Like, 2702 02:06:29.680 --> 02:06:32.800 you know, there really is that moment in the game 2703 02:06:32.840 --> 02:06:34.520 where you go in the open world and you're wandering 2704 02:06:34.560 --> 02:06:37.159 around and it does Yeah, that's what got translated to 2705 02:06:37.239 --> 02:06:39.920 Part two. Part three is a bit more go here, 2706 02:06:40.039 --> 02:06:41.399 go there, go here, go there. 2707 02:06:41.279 --> 02:06:45.520 Go ahead. Jan It's gonna be a strand game. Okay, 2708 02:06:45.560 --> 02:06:48.720 all right, you gotta build a monorail. Yep. 2709 02:06:49.159 --> 02:06:51.039 Cloud Strife is going to be like, you know what, 2710 02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:53.640 I'm tired of being an eco terrorist. I'm just gonna 2711 02:06:53.680 --> 02:06:57.119 like walk across this with my friends and like carry 2712 02:06:57.119 --> 02:07:04.239 a big backpack and deliver pizza. 2713 02:07:03.680 --> 02:07:03.880 Yah. 2714 02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:08.159 I mean like they're gonna they're gonna keep the combat system. 2715 02:07:08.239 --> 02:07:10.640 That's the thing that most people pretty much just absolutely 2716 02:07:10.680 --> 02:07:13.199 love about those games. The combat feels very good. 2717 02:07:13.279 --> 02:07:13.920 I bet it's. 2718 02:07:13.800 --> 02:07:16.720 Gonna be open world. He still maybe more open world 2719 02:07:16.760 --> 02:07:20.279 and less kind of open zone. Even though seven Rebirth 2720 02:07:20.359 --> 02:07:22.560 did kind of turn into that by the end, it 2721 02:07:22.520 --> 02:07:24.560 will sort of sort of start that way. 2722 02:07:25.479 --> 02:07:25.880 I don't know. 2723 02:07:25.920 --> 02:07:28.520 I'm not too concerned about that. My concerns are more 2724 02:07:28.520 --> 02:07:32.560 about some of the story directions stuff, just how multiverse 2725 02:07:32.680 --> 02:07:35.439 drivilly are we going to get here? That kind of thing. 2726 02:07:35.560 --> 02:07:38.760 But I liked Remake, I like Rebirth both a ton. 2727 02:07:38.960 --> 02:07:41.399 I'm still very excited about this. Christian is just crazy 2728 02:07:41.560 --> 02:07:43.000 that of all the thing I have to hear about 2729 02:07:43.079 --> 02:07:46.760 Christian talking about Common Rider every single day. You bring 2730 02:07:46.840 --> 02:07:52.359 up any any weird, disliked game from the last five years, 2731 02:07:52.479 --> 02:07:55.119 and Christian will be like, I get cooked, actually and 2732 02:07:55.439 --> 02:07:58.159 playing Front Face seven Rebick file is like this combats 2733 02:07:58.239 --> 02:08:00.479 terrible opinion. 2734 02:08:02.199 --> 02:08:06.560 You realized. Christian is our like on on call Argentinian 2735 02:08:06.640 --> 02:08:09.800 hipster slash griefer of you, right, Yeah. 2736 02:08:09.760 --> 02:08:13.520 Deeply respected. Yeah, he's just knows how to do it, 2737 02:08:13.640 --> 02:08:15.000 and yeah he'll never stop. 2738 02:08:15.079 --> 02:08:19.199 Chris Doug Bowser to retire Devin Pritchard to succeed as 2739 02:08:19.319 --> 02:08:22.439 Nintendo of America President Doug Bowser's been been doing that 2740 02:08:22.479 --> 02:08:24.199 thing since like what when when did you start? Like 2741 02:08:24.239 --> 02:08:26.880 twenty fifteen is when he joined Nintendo. In twenty nineteen 2742 02:08:26.920 --> 02:08:29.560 is when he became a president of Nintendo of America. 2743 02:08:29.600 --> 02:08:32.119 So six years, so a pretty long time for that 2744 02:08:32.119 --> 02:08:33.880 that kind of position. I know there's some people who 2745 02:08:34.239 --> 02:08:36.039 have had jobs like that for a long time, like 2746 02:08:36.079 --> 02:08:39.640 Phil Spencer Bert Xbox, But no, that six years is 2747 02:08:39.640 --> 02:08:41.319 a pretty long time to do that job. He is, 2748 02:08:41.479 --> 02:08:44.439 he's stepping down. You know, it's Nintendo of America. They're 2749 02:08:44.479 --> 02:08:47.159 a law firm, they're a marketing company, they had a localization, 2750 02:08:47.199 --> 02:08:48.880 they don't make a lot of the decisions, but this 2751 02:08:49.039 --> 02:08:52.199 is still a pretty important job in the industry. Setting 2752 02:08:52.199 --> 02:08:56.319 the tone for Nintendo in North America is something that 2753 02:08:56.359 --> 02:08:59.039 like Reggie really did kind of change a vibe in 2754 02:08:59.119 --> 02:09:01.159 that moment, and then it helped that they had Metroid 2755 02:09:01.199 --> 02:09:03.640 Prime and all that stuff. But this, yeah, this is 2756 02:09:03.680 --> 02:09:05.680 interesting to see. Now a woman will be in this 2757 02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:06.720 job for the first time ever. 2758 02:09:07.279 --> 02:09:10.840 Yeah, it's neat. Uh yeah, it does feel like Bowser's 2759 02:09:10.840 --> 02:09:13.079 tenure just happened in a snap. 2760 02:09:13.159 --> 02:09:17.079 But yeah, flew by. Yeah, good for the company, right, yeah, well. 2761 02:09:17.039 --> 02:09:19.279 You know, and Reggie kind of left not too long 2762 02:09:19.319 --> 02:09:22.199 after the switch one launched, Bowser leaving a little a 2763 02:09:22.199 --> 02:09:23.800 little bit even sooner at the switch too much. But 2764 02:09:23.840 --> 02:09:27.039 you know people, these these CEOs or presidents who tend 2765 02:09:27.039 --> 02:09:30.760 to leave kind of after these big milestones and transitions happened. 2766 02:09:31.119 --> 02:09:34.680 So it makes some sense. So uh yeah, I bet 2767 02:09:34.720 --> 02:09:36.840 everything is going to be just fine over there. It's 2768 02:09:37.039 --> 02:09:38.399 I doubt it's going to be like Reggie a game 2769 02:09:38.399 --> 02:09:41.920 where it was a very public personality and there's you know, 2770 02:09:42.119 --> 02:09:44.319 they encouraged the memes about it. They did a little 2771 02:09:44.319 --> 02:09:46.359 bit of that with Bowser just because of the name. 2772 02:09:46.600 --> 02:09:50.399 I bet this might be even more low key president 2773 02:09:50.479 --> 02:09:50.840 than that. 2774 02:09:51.560 --> 02:09:53.399 Yeah, I think you're probably right, like just kind of. 2775 02:09:53.399 --> 02:09:55.119 I think they were setting it up, like why did 2776 02:09:55.199 --> 02:09:57.560 we have Reggie become a celebrity. I mean it worked 2777 02:09:57.560 --> 02:09:59.840 when they needed to kind of put on a little 2778 02:09:59.880 --> 02:10:02.560 bit the show to distract from stuff like the WU 2779 02:10:02.600 --> 02:10:03.520 and things like that. 2780 02:10:04.960 --> 02:10:05.239 He was. 2781 02:10:07.279 --> 02:10:12.119 Exactly with Bowser ever in a direct once. I think, yeah, 2782 02:10:12.319 --> 02:10:15.279 a little bit, but he was not like Reggie that 2783 02:10:15.479 --> 02:10:18.880 switched to reveal I was in New York Live while 2784 02:10:18.880 --> 02:10:20.560 it was also going out to you guys, and he 2785 02:10:20.680 --> 02:10:23.640 was on I was sitting next to you. That's right, Yes, 2786 02:10:23.720 --> 02:10:27.439 I did any of that air, any of that air 2787 02:10:27.560 --> 02:10:33.399 on the switch to h. I don't remember something like that. 2788 02:10:33.479 --> 02:10:35.239 You know. Reggie was from the E three air. So 2789 02:10:35.319 --> 02:10:38.760 Reggie was like on stage like posting a presentation, a 2790 02:10:38.800 --> 02:10:42.199 live presentation, which not anything Bowser ever had to do. 2791 02:10:42.920 --> 02:10:46.720 Where do you think the puppets are of Miamoto and Reggie? 2792 02:10:47.319 --> 02:10:49.880 They were at one of the Nintendo stores and museums 2793 02:10:49.880 --> 02:10:50.720 at one point or another. 2794 02:10:50.760 --> 02:10:51.600 I'm surprised I'm. 2795 02:10:51.479 --> 02:10:55.000 Not just at the Nintendo museum that they have in Japan. 2796 02:10:55.239 --> 02:10:59.279 Yeah, yeah, I think they're still got all puppet bombcasts sometime. 2797 02:11:00.279 --> 02:11:02.840 We definitely do. I want to anyone got a puppet connection. 2798 02:11:02.960 --> 02:11:05.199 Let us know. We definitely had some reached out to 2799 02:11:05.239 --> 02:11:08.239 be like, I make puppets, and how easy to me 2800 02:11:08.359 --> 02:11:10.760 to make a puppet of me? Yeah, that's absurd. 2801 02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:12.680 Just take the Osama bin laden one and just kind 2802 02:11:12.680 --> 02:11:13.880 of put it back out there. 2803 02:11:14.079 --> 02:11:16.720 Yeah, sir, Jeff Dunham's got one in a closet you can. 2804 02:11:18.279 --> 02:11:20.680 Oh you know what, we just put a we put 2805 02:11:20.680 --> 02:11:24.720 a black hat on the old man. Jeff Dunham puppet 2806 02:11:24.720 --> 02:11:25.439 and that's backlar. 2807 02:11:25.960 --> 02:11:31.319 Oh yeah, that does for the news. 2808 02:11:31.319 --> 02:11:33.079 I'm handing this show back over to Gianna Choa. 2809 02:11:33.960 --> 02:11:37.760 Oh wow, well we hit our Jeff Dunham mentioned category 2810 02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:44.600 or quotas. Yeah, thank god we didn't end the month 2811 02:11:44.640 --> 02:11:46.680 of September with un mentioning Jeff Dunham. 2812 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:51.000 You're on Desert Island. The only comedy you can watch 2813 02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:54.920 for the rest of your life is Jeff Dunham's uh, 2814 02:11:55.239 --> 02:11:57.159 I don't know, discography, I don't know we'd call it, 2815 02:11:57.239 --> 02:12:00.600 or the blue collar comedy to our guys. Hey, definitely 2816 02:12:01.359 --> 02:12:04.000 the Reds game. Yeah, I skip that. 2817 02:12:04.079 --> 02:12:05.640 Yeah, there's inn a Lord of the Rings game they're making. 2818 02:12:05.680 --> 02:12:08.720 I just I don't even see that anymore good lately. 2819 02:12:08.840 --> 02:12:11.760 I'm sure this will be great the blue collar comedy guys. 2820 02:12:11.760 --> 02:12:15.800 That one of those guys is like pretty fund back then. 2821 02:12:15.960 --> 02:12:21.159 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. 2822 02:12:21.199 --> 02:12:25.600 One of them is major from Cars, Yes, from Cars. Wow. 2823 02:12:26.560 --> 02:12:30.479 Abu Dhabi Investment Office is going to pay for a 2824 02:12:30.560 --> 02:12:32.800 Lord of the Rings game. It's let's see, a hundred 2825 02:12:32.840 --> 02:12:35.119 million dollars is how much they're spending on this game. 2826 02:12:35.279 --> 02:12:36.840 The deal, which has been in the work since last year, 2827 02:12:36.880 --> 02:12:38.359 is expected to be final ass soon. This is all 2828 02:12:38.359 --> 02:12:41.439 a rumor, although I'll say I've heard this rumor as well. 2829 02:12:42.079 --> 02:12:43.920 People have reached out to me about this. I'm not 2830 02:12:43.960 --> 02:12:45.600 being able to confirm it, but this is coming from 2831 02:12:45.600 --> 02:12:48.479 Insider Gaming, and I'll say that I've heard it. Maybe 2832 02:12:48.479 --> 02:12:52.079 we got the same source though, So again, no may. 2833 02:12:51.960 --> 02:12:54.159 Forget we had Gollum, which was at least so bad 2834 02:12:54.199 --> 02:12:56.920 it was remarkable. Then that Minds of Moya game no 2835 02:12:56.960 --> 02:13:00.800 one talked about, and apparently that Aubit Shy Sims like 2836 02:13:00.840 --> 02:13:04.399 thing was also bad. Actually just I bought Shadow of 2837 02:13:04.439 --> 02:13:07.399 War because it's on sale on the Steam Celle right now. 2838 02:13:07.560 --> 02:13:09.439 I'm like, boy, I missed when they're at least taking 2839 02:13:09.479 --> 02:13:11.520 some big swings with these Lord of the Ring games. 2840 02:13:11.520 --> 02:13:14.920 So yeah, it sticks that, like you know in the 2841 02:13:15.439 --> 02:13:19.319 sort of tear list of licensed games, like of that 2842 02:13:19.439 --> 02:13:23.359 kind of license, it's like Warhammer way above Star Wars, 2843 02:13:23.399 --> 02:13:25.760 and then that's like actually above Lord of the Rings. 2844 02:13:25.800 --> 02:13:27.279 Like it gets bad fast with. 2845 02:13:27.239 --> 02:13:29.760 Those major franchises. I think it's it's fight. 2846 02:13:29.840 --> 02:13:32.079 The story says they want to compete with Hogwarts legacy. 2847 02:13:32.119 --> 02:13:33.600 I don't think you can do that for only one 2848 02:13:33.640 --> 02:13:35.039 hundred million dollars. 2849 02:13:35.239 --> 02:13:38.079 That's actually a really good point. Yeah, so I don't 2850 02:13:38.079 --> 02:13:39.079 know what they're expecting. 2851 02:13:39.840 --> 02:13:40.600 Good luck with all. 2852 02:13:40.760 --> 02:13:42.880 Right now, I'm really handing the show back over to 2853 02:13:42.960 --> 02:13:45.880 Jan catch sure, but I thought, oh god, got it. 2854 02:13:46.479 --> 02:13:48.840 I thought you were fibbing for a second. Well, folks, 2855 02:13:48.840 --> 02:13:50.920 we're going to take a quick brickie break and we 2856 02:13:50.960 --> 02:13:54.960 will be back with emails, super chats, and who knows 2857 02:13:55.000 --> 02:14:03.920 what else right after the These are the males or 2858 02:14:04.159 --> 02:14:08.319 the show emails. BombCast at giant bomb dot com is 2859 02:14:08.319 --> 02:14:10.479 the email addressed to send your emails too. You can 2860 02:14:10.479 --> 02:14:12.960 write in about any and everything, something we've discussed on 2861 02:14:12.960 --> 02:14:15.199 the show, something you want us to discuss on the show, 2862 02:14:15.800 --> 02:14:19.680 perhaps reflecting on a interesting take, reflecting who may be weirder, 2863 02:14:19.840 --> 02:14:22.680 or you just want to avoid an awkward social interaction 2864 02:14:22.760 --> 02:14:23.920 and just be on your phone. 2865 02:14:24.439 --> 02:14:25.960 Email us at. 2866 02:14:25.840 --> 02:14:29.319 BombCast at giant bomb dot com. First email of the 2867 02:14:29.359 --> 02:14:33.199 show comes from Mike from Loveland. Hello, bombus, grandees. I 2868 02:14:33.199 --> 02:14:35.399 think the taco place dropped one of my tacos in 2869 02:14:35.439 --> 02:14:39.720 the sink. The wrapper an tortilla or sagi and difficult 2870 02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:44.279 to separate the other taco, same variety was normal. Foolishly, 2871 02:14:44.439 --> 02:14:47.119 after eating the good taco, I still went in for 2872 02:14:47.159 --> 02:14:49.680 a bite of the wet boy, and now I'm sure 2873 02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:52.039 I can't have tacos for a while. I should have 2874 02:14:52.079 --> 02:14:56.479 known better. Has this ever or a similar experience happened 2875 02:14:56.720 --> 02:14:59.439 to you with games? A few years back? I built 2876 02:14:59.439 --> 02:15:01.960 too many days and found myself building a deck to 2877 02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:04.279 beat up guys in a public bathroom. I haven't touched 2878 02:15:04.279 --> 02:15:07.319 one since. Love the show, Love you all. Mike from Loveland. 2879 02:15:08.159 --> 02:15:12.199 I've never had building a deck to beat up a guy? 2880 02:15:12.239 --> 02:15:14.640 And what does that mean? I don't, I don't. 2881 02:15:14.680 --> 02:15:18.640 I'm lost, Dan, nobody's ever dropped my video games in 2882 02:15:18.680 --> 02:15:20.199 a sink before I bought them? 2883 02:15:20.880 --> 02:15:24.680 No, and then like card decks like you? 2884 02:15:24.800 --> 02:15:29.079 First I thought card decks, but then I don't. I 2885 02:15:29.079 --> 02:15:31.279 don't duel people in bathrooms. 2886 02:15:32.359 --> 02:15:34.840 So building a deck to beat up guys in a 2887 02:15:34.880 --> 02:15:37.880 public bathroom? The built two decks? 2888 02:15:38.079 --> 02:15:42.520 Email or the answer to your question is no, We've never. 2889 02:15:42.720 --> 02:15:45.920 I've never, never, would never. It's never happened to me 2890 02:15:46.399 --> 02:15:47.600 with video games. 2891 02:15:47.880 --> 02:15:49.880 But thank you for your for sharing your experience. 2892 02:15:49.880 --> 02:15:55.600 Sorry about your case, Ada or whatever, Haco talk next. 2893 02:15:55.600 --> 02:16:00.920 Email. This could be about anyone. They simply write, Jeff 2894 02:16:00.960 --> 02:16:01.920 has fathead. 2895 02:16:03.279 --> 02:16:10.680 Right, Sorry backwards batheads the big stickers of us put 2896 02:16:10.680 --> 02:16:13.000 on your wall on Cleveland. 2897 02:16:13.039 --> 02:16:15.920 At least at one point that was a Yeah Cleveland company. 2898 02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:19.319 I bought this house sight unseen my my mother in 2899 02:16:19.359 --> 02:16:20.479 law came here looked at it for us when we 2900 02:16:20.479 --> 02:16:23.079 were moving from Colorado, and I walk in and one 2901 02:16:23.079 --> 02:16:25.159 of the rooms had a giant fat head of the 2902 02:16:25.199 --> 02:16:27.920 Buck guy from the Ohio State Buckeyes, just the mascot 2903 02:16:28.039 --> 02:16:28.680 or whatever, and that. 2904 02:16:29.039 --> 02:16:31.159 I had to get rid of that. Yeah, it was disgusting. 2905 02:16:31.199 --> 02:16:31.680 I hate that. 2906 02:16:32.159 --> 02:16:35.479 Next email comes from the real McCoy Highdooters, having been 2907 02:16:35.639 --> 02:16:37.760 just a couple of years too young to enjoy the 2908 02:16:37.799 --> 02:16:41.360 original MGS three, now at thirty years old, playing the 2909 02:16:41.399 --> 02:16:45.920 Snake Eater Snaky to remake as my first played MGS game, 2910 02:16:46.399 --> 02:16:49.239 I kept on feeling genuine nostalgia for a game I 2911 02:16:49.319 --> 02:16:52.239 never played, but had such an intimate knowledge of thanks 2912 02:16:52.280 --> 02:16:55.319 to watching the entire Metal Gear Scanland series on Giant Bomb. 2913 02:16:55.479 --> 02:16:57.840 My question is, has this ever happened to any of you? 2914 02:16:57.959 --> 02:17:01.120 If it'd be game, movie, TV, magazine, book. Thanks for 2915 02:17:01.360 --> 02:17:04.360 being good people. Fuck Dan, you need to be scientifically 2916 02:17:04.399 --> 02:17:06.680 studied with love the real McCoy. 2917 02:17:07.239 --> 02:17:09.159 Yeah, I mean, you know King's quest when I was 2918 02:17:09.200 --> 02:17:10.840 playing that, right, I mean, it's a game from before 2919 02:17:10.879 --> 02:17:13.399 I was even born. I didn't play it back then. 2920 02:17:13.479 --> 02:17:16.239 I never actually really played through it, But you know, 2921 02:17:16.239 --> 02:17:21.600 I just it's so much of a trailblazer, and it's 2922 02:17:21.680 --> 02:17:24.840 so recognizable as something that's old and of an era 2923 02:17:25.040 --> 02:17:27.959 that I can't help it being nostalgic for it, even 2924 02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:30.200 as I'm playing through most of it for the first time. 2925 02:17:31.479 --> 02:17:35.639 Yeah, I think any game that appeared in a magazine 2926 02:17:35.680 --> 02:17:37.399 ad for one of the video game magazines I read, 2927 02:17:37.440 --> 02:17:38.959 if I were to go back to any of those, 2928 02:17:38.959 --> 02:17:41.399 and I've done this before, I would feel nostalgia for. 2929 02:17:41.399 --> 02:17:44.440 It, for Sake, and sixty four for saken sixty four. 2930 02:17:44.520 --> 02:17:47.760 I honestly like Virtual Highlight definitely appeared in some magazines 2931 02:17:47.799 --> 02:17:49.559 I was reading. So watching you play that I still 2932 02:17:49.559 --> 02:17:51.959 hadn't played that, I still had nostalgia for it. 2933 02:17:51.959 --> 02:17:55.520 It's like watching, yeah, watch like an old black and 2934 02:17:55.559 --> 02:17:58.639 white movie, right being or Softwar. It's there's something nostalgic 2935 02:17:58.719 --> 02:18:02.079 about that, just something just nostalgic about the way Super 2936 02:18:02.159 --> 02:18:05.600 Nintendo games are, or Sega Saturn games or PS two 2937 02:18:05.760 --> 02:18:06.280 games are. 2938 02:18:06.399 --> 02:18:07.760 I get that if I watch a movie from like 2939 02:18:07.799 --> 02:18:10.760 the nineties, as well, where it's just like ah, man, yeah, 2940 02:18:10.840 --> 02:18:13.719 this is good. The look of the movie, the absence 2941 02:18:13.760 --> 02:18:16.479 of phones and stuff like that, Like totally, although I've 2942 02:18:16.479 --> 02:18:19.159 seen so much chatter about like nostalgia lately with like 2943 02:18:19.600 --> 02:18:22.920 the fucking Walmart uh Ai video. I don't know if 2944 02:18:22.959 --> 02:18:24.879 you saw that. I don't think they made it, but 2945 02:18:24.920 --> 02:18:27.600 it was like remember when Walmart in two thousand and two, 2946 02:18:27.639 --> 02:18:30.760 you'd go in and they had samples there's like AI kids, 2947 02:18:30.879 --> 02:18:33.680 Like it's an AI generated video of like what a 2948 02:18:33.719 --> 02:18:36.000 Walmart looked like in two thousand and two, and I watched, 2949 02:18:36.200 --> 02:18:37.719 like this sucks. 2950 02:18:37.799 --> 02:18:39.879 And it's also not what it was really show about 2951 02:18:39.920 --> 02:18:42.760 two thousand and two Walmarts. They were still Walmarts. There 2952 02:18:42.799 --> 02:18:43.799 was no I think it's. 2953 02:18:43.719 --> 02:18:46.760 Just because it's targeting people that were a kid in 2954 02:18:46.799 --> 02:18:47.520 two thousand and two. 2955 02:18:47.639 --> 02:18:50.879 You know, it's not like the nineties Pizza Hut you idiots, 2956 02:18:50.959 --> 02:18:53.280 Like there's about that. 2957 02:18:53.399 --> 02:18:56.399 Yeah, And like also the video was like like grainy 2958 02:18:56.440 --> 02:18:57.799 and stuff in a way that like they were trying 2959 02:18:57.799 --> 02:18:59.360 to make it look we was shot in the seventies. 2960 02:18:59.680 --> 02:19:01.520 Just it sucks so bad. 2961 02:19:04.360 --> 02:19:08.200 I guess, like kind of similar to what emailers writing 2962 02:19:08.200 --> 02:19:12.479 in about a lot of my exposure to other media 2963 02:19:12.719 --> 02:19:14.799 was through the lens of Muppet Babies. 2964 02:19:15.440 --> 02:19:17.840 Hell yeah, so that's how you learned about Star Wars. 2965 02:19:18.479 --> 02:19:20.799 That's how I learned about Star Wars. And that's how 2966 02:19:21.159 --> 02:19:24.840 I learned about other movies through the the other movies 2967 02:19:24.840 --> 02:19:28.319 that they'd spoof at Saint Daniel Jones, yeah, Indiana Jones, 2968 02:19:28.360 --> 02:19:31.120 but also with Alvin and the Chipmunks. The first time 2969 02:19:31.159 --> 02:19:33.239 I ever saw or was told about the story of 2970 02:19:33.360 --> 02:19:37.200 RoboCop was through the lens of Alvin and the Chipmunks 2971 02:19:38.120 --> 02:19:38.840 Robo Monk. 2972 02:19:39.479 --> 02:19:42.280 That was a whole video because I never even saw 2973 02:19:42.319 --> 02:19:44.920 that movie, but it was always advertised in front of 2974 02:19:44.920 --> 02:19:48.040 my VHS copy of like the actual Chipmunks movie that 2975 02:19:48.040 --> 02:19:50.399 they did where they were doing some around the world 2976 02:19:50.440 --> 02:19:53.280 in eighty days race bullshit against the chip Bets or 2977 02:19:53.280 --> 02:19:57.760 whatever that was the Chipmunks man. 2978 02:19:58.760 --> 02:20:02.000 In the chat, he says, a Robocopa straight up marketed 2979 02:20:02.000 --> 02:20:04.159 to kids, so much for not being a kids movie 2980 02:20:04.239 --> 02:20:06.639 that I'm nostalgic for that, like all of my sh 2981 02:20:06.840 --> 02:20:09.399 in first grade, like my binders and stuff being Terminator 2982 02:20:09.719 --> 02:20:14.040 like official Terminator merchandise marketed towards me a first grader. 2983 02:20:14.040 --> 02:20:17.239 It's like that we're missing that now, just. 2984 02:20:17.600 --> 02:20:20.680 Do the cartoon like there's no one battle after another 2985 02:20:20.799 --> 02:20:24.280 cartoon series that's gonna be on Saturday morning, right, But 2986 02:20:24.319 --> 02:20:27.719 there there is sort of what's that Netflix show, the 2987 02:20:27.760 --> 02:20:29.079 one I've never seen it? 2988 02:20:30.559 --> 02:20:30.760 Yes? 2989 02:20:31.360 --> 02:20:34.360 And squid Games yes. And then the version of that 2990 02:20:34.559 --> 02:20:37.479 is that mister Beast will make his videos and that's 2991 02:20:37.559 --> 02:20:41.239 all exclusively basically for children to watch. And so kids 2992 02:20:41.280 --> 02:20:43.719 are crazy about squid Games and that's like not really 2993 02:20:43.719 --> 02:20:44.239 for kids. 2994 02:20:44.280 --> 02:20:46.159 So yeah, well that's there. 2995 02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:49.319 We we do have that because I mean five Nights 2996 02:20:49.319 --> 02:20:51.399 at Freddy's is like a horror game. 2997 02:20:51.639 --> 02:20:53.399 But yeah, that's all around. 2998 02:20:53.559 --> 02:20:55.120 But it's like goosey Yeah right. 2999 02:20:55.840 --> 02:21:00.600 That's a little bit goat closer to Goosebumps. Yeah probably, OK. 3000 02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:05.440 Moving on, speaking about Pete from Connecticut Rights in Hey BombCast, 3001 02:21:05.520 --> 02:21:08.200 I'm a thirty six year old married man with kids 3002 02:21:08.399 --> 02:21:09.000 and my hair. 3003 02:21:09.079 --> 02:21:11.000 He started sinning on top a bit. 3004 02:21:11.559 --> 02:21:13.680 Nothing crazy, but it's something that I noticed. So I've 3005 02:21:13.680 --> 02:21:15.479 been giving this question. 3006 02:21:15.200 --> 02:21:16.120 A lot of thought lately. 3007 02:21:16.920 --> 02:21:19.200 I was curious did any of the bald men on 3008 02:21:19.239 --> 02:21:23.360 the show ever try to consider anything like Roguain, finasteride 3009 02:21:23.479 --> 02:21:27.520 or hair transplants. Alternatively grubbing jan if you noticed you 3010 02:21:27.520 --> 02:21:29.840 were starting to go bald tomorrow, would you consider any 3011 02:21:29.879 --> 02:21:31.559 alternative option or just let it go? 3012 02:21:31.840 --> 02:21:36.239 Thanks for all you do. Pepe in Connecticut, I definitely 3013 02:21:36.559 --> 02:21:39.399 did the rogain thing for a little bit, and it's 3014 02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:41.440 just I don't know, this is kind of gross. 3015 02:21:42.920 --> 02:21:44.200 If it was a thing where I was like, I 3016 02:21:44.239 --> 02:21:47.120 know this is going to work, right, like, okay, just 3017 02:21:47.239 --> 02:21:49.479 you take my medicine and get my hair back. But 3018 02:21:49.479 --> 02:21:51.840 I'm doing this thing that feels kind of weird and 3019 02:21:52.079 --> 02:21:55.920 gross and also probably won't work. So I'm like, what 3020 02:21:56.559 --> 02:21:59.840 the heck with this? And then anything else like it's 3021 02:21:59.840 --> 02:22:02.799 just too drastic or expensive or too time consuming that 3022 02:22:03.200 --> 02:22:04.520 I don't really care that much. 3023 02:22:05.440 --> 02:22:07.639 Yeah, I was like twenty seventeen or so when I 3024 02:22:07.680 --> 02:22:09.840 was really starting to notice how the bald spot going 3025 02:22:09.879 --> 02:22:13.760 crazy there, and I think it was finastrite or something 3026 02:22:13.760 --> 02:22:16.120 that I got, and it's like for like a week 3027 02:22:16.200 --> 02:22:17.799 I put it on there, and I'm like, do I 3028 02:22:17.840 --> 02:22:19.840 really want to fucking do this? Like what? I don't 3029 02:22:19.840 --> 02:22:21.520 know if it's like twice a day or something for 3030 02:22:21.840 --> 02:22:24.239 the rest of my life. And then like as my 3031 02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:26.639 hair if I lose more of it's just like more 3032 02:22:26.799 --> 02:22:29.159 covers on the head every fucking day. It's like it's 3033 02:22:29.159 --> 02:22:30.520 just too much a pain in the ass. And again, 3034 02:22:30.600 --> 02:22:32.159 like Mike said, it's like I don't even think it's 3035 02:22:32.159 --> 02:22:34.319 gonna work, so uh. And then as far as the 3036 02:22:34.360 --> 02:22:38.319 transplant thing, it's funny because I mentioned how that Turkish 3037 02:22:38.360 --> 02:22:40.440 place reached out to me on Instagram and offered to 3038 02:22:40.479 --> 02:22:43.360 like send me there, and like I just had to 3039 02:22:43.399 --> 02:22:44.920 like post a bunch about it, and they were like, yeah, 3040 02:22:44.920 --> 02:22:47.440 we'll just give you hair again. It would be pretty 3041 02:22:47.440 --> 02:22:49.319 funny to just take a trip to Turkey and come 3042 02:22:49.360 --> 02:22:53.239 back and have hair. But I just don't really care enough. 3043 02:22:53.319 --> 02:22:55.600 I think I think it would be kind of funny 3044 02:22:55.600 --> 02:22:59.680 if I suddenly just had hair again. So yeah, maybe 3045 02:22:59.760 --> 02:23:00.600 never if. 3046 02:23:00.479 --> 02:23:02.639 It's still in the cards, is what you're saying, Like like. 3047 02:23:02.719 --> 02:23:04.520 If ifs I think I would do it as a 3048 02:23:04.559 --> 02:23:07.719 bit or like like a sub goal on Twitch. Okay 3049 02:23:08.799 --> 02:23:13.000 hair again, yeah, or if like like if a local 3050 02:23:13.079 --> 02:23:16.079 place was like, hey, we'll do this for you for free, 3051 02:23:16.680 --> 02:23:18.600 I would think about it because I would just go 3052 02:23:18.639 --> 02:23:20.200 back to shaving it, you know, like what would be 3053 02:23:20.200 --> 02:23:24.440 the downside. I'd rather give back of our hair back 3054 02:23:24.479 --> 02:23:26.079 than give hair back for myself. 3055 02:23:26.120 --> 02:23:27.520 I think actually. 3056 02:23:29.680 --> 02:23:30.600 So magnanimous. 3057 02:23:30.840 --> 02:23:35.040 I think, yeah, dunkle Master Sauce in the chat, let's 3058 02:23:35.040 --> 02:23:36.319 do it for back back. 3059 02:23:38.120 --> 02:23:41.639 Yeah, he does get. He does get real like listlessly, 3060 02:23:41.760 --> 02:23:43.040 he talks about it. 3061 02:23:42.639 --> 02:23:45.680 That's what about you two? What would you do if 3062 02:23:45.719 --> 02:23:46.440 you're going called? 3063 02:23:47.000 --> 02:23:49.280 I would do that stuff. I would try the propicia. 3064 02:23:49.440 --> 02:23:51.200 I would uh, I would. 3065 02:23:51.000 --> 02:23:53.040 Give it a shot. I wouldn't do the rog game thing. 3066 02:23:53.040 --> 02:23:55.159 You're right that that sounds like a half soule uh 3067 02:23:55.200 --> 02:23:58.079 and whatever. And then you know, when that didn't actually 3068 02:23:58.120 --> 02:23:59.719 play out, I would just you know, I would shave it. 3069 02:23:59.719 --> 02:24:00.760 I would whatever. 3070 02:24:01.440 --> 02:24:04.600 Yeah, I would tattoo my skull and be sick like 3071 02:24:04.680 --> 02:24:09.639 that'd be sick. Yeah, yeah, all right, Gang, a couple 3072 02:24:09.719 --> 02:24:11.159 more emails and then we'll move on. 3073 02:24:11.319 --> 02:24:12.959 We could call you Jan Bigelow. 3074 02:24:15.920 --> 02:24:21.000 Okay, all right, all right, Scout, get to it anyhow, Okay, 3075 02:24:21.639 --> 02:24:24.920 slip all right, Travis, and Fargo writes in with five questions, 3076 02:24:25.000 --> 02:24:26.360 but we're not gonna read all five. I'm going to 3077 02:24:26.399 --> 02:24:30.079 read the fifth one. Travis. I got a job. I've 3078 02:24:30.120 --> 02:24:32.000 been a full time stay at home parent for the 3079 02:24:32.000 --> 02:24:34.319 past few years, but now in addition to that, I'm 3080 02:24:34.360 --> 02:24:36.959 working part time for my favorite local coffee company. I 3081 02:24:37.000 --> 02:24:38.600 work with a good buddy of mine, and the best 3082 02:24:38.600 --> 02:24:42.440 perk is free coffee. My question is my questions are 3083 02:24:42.879 --> 02:24:44.479 how do you like working with friends? And what's the 3084 02:24:44.479 --> 02:24:46.840 best perk of your job? Travis and Fargo. 3085 02:24:48.079 --> 02:24:51.479 I mean, that's what's really cool is just it's cool 3086 02:24:51.600 --> 02:24:53.760 enough to just do the thing you love for your 3087 02:24:53.879 --> 02:24:57.079 job and play games, Like I realize how rare that is. 3088 02:24:57.399 --> 02:24:59.680 And then when it's also it's like, oh, just by nature, 3089 02:25:00.079 --> 02:25:03.079 you're doing it with people that share that passion, and 3090 02:25:03.159 --> 02:25:05.799 especially in the circumstance like what we do, we got 3091 02:25:05.799 --> 02:25:07.559 to basically pick who we do it with. We're all 3092 02:25:07.600 --> 02:25:09.319 just good friends, you know. We talk like, look at 3093 02:25:09.319 --> 02:25:11.280 the Haiti stream on Friday night, it was it Friday, 3094 02:25:11.280 --> 02:25:12.600 whenever it was we all just kind of hop in. 3095 02:25:12.639 --> 02:25:14.479 We're just hanging out because we just like hanging out 3096 02:25:14.479 --> 02:25:17.760 with each other. So yeah, it's it's a pretty incredible thing. 3097 02:25:17.799 --> 02:25:19.600 I remember first feeling that when I first got hired 3098 02:25:19.600 --> 02:25:21.440 a game Informer and being like, oh my god, I 3099 02:25:21.440 --> 02:25:23.959 went from working at a call center where there was 3100 02:25:24.040 --> 02:25:26.319 one guy there who played video games I could talk to, 3101 02:25:26.559 --> 02:25:29.479 and that guy fucking sucked to Like, here is like 3102 02:25:30.040 --> 02:25:32.440 twenty of the most knowledgeable people I've ever met about 3103 02:25:32.520 --> 02:25:35.040 video games, and I like them and we hang out 3104 02:25:35.120 --> 02:25:38.200 and it's like Jesus Christ, it's just a real good deal. 3105 02:25:39.159 --> 02:25:42.200 Yeah, Yeah, that's that's exactly right. The park is just 3106 02:25:42.239 --> 02:25:45.840 like getting to do the job, honestly, getting to come in, 3107 02:25:45.920 --> 02:25:48.000 come with an idea, and the idea is how can 3108 02:25:48.040 --> 02:25:50.760 we play a video game in a fun and interesting way. Yeah, 3109 02:25:50.760 --> 02:25:52.840 couldn't have dreamed it up better, but that's exactly what 3110 02:25:52.879 --> 02:25:53.200 I want. 3111 02:25:54.440 --> 02:26:02.040 Yeah. Also, wow, we're his family. Yes. Sure. 3112 02:26:03.000 --> 02:26:09.079 The bonus of being friends and considering y'all very close 3113 02:26:09.120 --> 02:26:12.559 to me is that I feel more comfortable being me 3114 02:26:13.040 --> 02:26:15.520 around y'all, and I don't have to like code switch 3115 02:26:15.559 --> 02:26:17.959 or style switch. I can say some out of pocket 3116 02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:20.000 stuff like cum gutters and then we just move on 3117 02:26:20.040 --> 02:26:23.879 to the next time. But also, you know, I fully 3118 02:26:23.879 --> 02:26:26.479 transparent for the folks at home. I've been going through 3119 02:26:26.479 --> 02:26:29.680 some stuff and I feel comfortable going through the day 3120 02:26:29.760 --> 02:26:32.479 because I can rely on this crew of dudes here 3121 02:26:32.520 --> 02:26:35.239 along with Sean and Chuck to have my back. So 3122 02:26:35.319 --> 02:26:38.920 I feel less guilty about having to go through the 3123 02:26:38.920 --> 02:26:42.120 stuff I'm going through because I feel supported. So thanks 3124 02:26:42.120 --> 02:26:47.840 to this crew over here. All right, my friend, I 3125 02:26:47.840 --> 02:26:48.840 don't know about this other. 3126 02:26:51.120 --> 02:26:53.520 Dance? Fine, what a day for my keys? 3127 02:26:57.200 --> 02:27:01.559 Dirt Bag Dad rites in Hey bomb Daddy's I think 3128 02:27:01.600 --> 02:27:03.840 they meant that, not the way I read it. But 3129 02:27:04.600 --> 02:27:06.840 this question is for the two Jeffs, Solid Jeff and 3130 02:27:06.879 --> 02:27:09.959 Liquid Jeff. New parent here, Yay. I have a seven 3131 02:27:10.040 --> 02:27:12.799 week old baby and I'm not gonna lie. I'm starting 3132 02:27:12.799 --> 02:27:15.680 to lose it. The lack of sleep, the logistics, etc. 3133 02:27:16.120 --> 02:27:18.319 Are all pretty taxing, and I've noticed it's taking a 3134 02:27:18.319 --> 02:27:20.239 toll on my partner and I, I will admit the 3135 02:27:20.239 --> 02:27:22.920 problem lies with me. I just have become so irritable 3136 02:27:22.959 --> 02:27:25.879 and short tempered that almost any minor thing annoys the 3137 02:27:25.920 --> 02:27:28.239 ever living crap out of me. I know this isn't 3138 02:27:28.239 --> 02:27:31.639 a relationship or parenting podcast, but did either of you 3139 02:27:31.680 --> 02:27:33.760 go through this any tips on how I could just 3140 02:27:33.799 --> 02:27:36.159 be a better new dad and a better new partner 3141 02:27:36.159 --> 02:27:38.040 for my wife. I just don't want to be another 3142 02:27:38.040 --> 02:27:39.760 burden on her and I want to rise to the 3143 02:27:39.760 --> 02:27:43.200 new challenge slash chapter of our lives BS. Is there 3144 02:27:43.280 --> 02:27:45.319 some of my gaming life only going to exist between 3145 02:27:45.319 --> 02:27:48.639 the hours of ten pm and one am. Dirt Bag Dad. 3146 02:27:50.280 --> 02:27:52.920 I mean, look, the kids that young, you should be 3147 02:27:52.920 --> 02:27:54.639 finding sometimes during the day to like just let the 3148 02:27:54.719 --> 02:27:57.159 kid lay on your tummy while you play a game, 3149 02:27:57.360 --> 02:27:58.879 So take advantage of that. 3150 02:28:00.200 --> 02:28:02.040 Baby is fine to keep gaming. 3151 02:28:02.079 --> 02:28:04.520 So that's my advice there is you can still make 3152 02:28:04.559 --> 02:28:07.680 that happen later on. Yeah, it'll only happen during certain 3153 02:28:07.719 --> 02:28:10.840 times for sure. No, No stand up to five am 3154 02:28:10.879 --> 02:28:13.120 to play Hades two when you got to get up 3155 02:28:13.159 --> 02:28:14.719 at six am to start getting the kids. 3156 02:28:14.559 --> 02:28:17.079 Ready for school. Yeah. 3157 02:28:17.079 --> 02:28:21.520 Look, it's it's hard, and really all you can not 3158 02:28:21.600 --> 02:28:23.680 all you could do, But the most important thing to 3159 02:28:23.719 --> 02:28:26.319 do is recognize it and being like, hey, I am 3160 02:28:26.360 --> 02:28:29.280 getting irritable, I am getting this is challenging. I do 3161 02:28:29.360 --> 02:28:32.040 have to kind of take a step back and figure 3162 02:28:32.040 --> 02:28:34.399 out some ideas here. I think the biggest thing is 3163 02:28:36.280 --> 02:28:39.760 a perspective shift. You're you're not really living for yourself anymore. 3164 02:28:39.920 --> 02:28:42.920 You're here to be memories for your kids. So when 3165 02:28:42.920 --> 02:28:46.120 you're making decisions when you're faced with something, do you 3166 02:28:46.120 --> 02:28:48.799 want to leave them with with with trauma with the 3167 02:28:48.799 --> 02:28:51.239 then worried about your emotional state, Like that's the thing, Like, 3168 02:28:51.360 --> 02:28:53.639 you know, as soon as they get to be five, six, seven, 3169 02:28:53.719 --> 02:28:57.200 especially eight, they will be so tuned into like your 3170 02:28:57.399 --> 02:29:01.479 feelings that you feel guilty about even feeling. 3171 02:29:01.440 --> 02:29:03.440 Bad about stuff, because they will. 3172 02:29:03.200 --> 02:29:06.120 You can tell they'll start trying to manage your emotions 3173 02:29:06.280 --> 02:29:09.399 because that it makes them uncomfortable. So you've gotta have 3174 02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:13.159 to recognize that, and it's not easy. You're just gonna 3175 02:29:13.239 --> 02:29:15.520 have to get better and keep growing. The good news 3176 02:29:15.559 --> 02:29:17.079 is you that's what we do. We keep growing and 3177 02:29:17.120 --> 02:29:21.079 we get better. So I would just take this moment 3178 02:29:21.239 --> 02:29:25.399 to not beat yourself up, don't feel guilty like you. 3179 02:29:26.200 --> 02:29:29.319 Everyone goes through it, but do just kind of go 3180 02:29:29.399 --> 02:29:30.840 the next day and being like, what can I learn 3181 02:29:30.920 --> 02:29:33.399 and try to be a little bit better and and 3182 02:29:33.440 --> 02:29:35.760 then also maybe take some stuff off your plate. You know, 3183 02:29:35.879 --> 02:29:40.440 I stopped watching TV basically because of having kids. Like 3184 02:29:40.479 --> 02:29:42.760 I don't really sit down to watch the show. I'll 3185 02:29:42.760 --> 02:29:45.079 watch something here or there on my phone. 3186 02:29:45.680 --> 02:29:46.680 But I used to like sit. 3187 02:29:46.559 --> 02:29:49.719 Down and channel flip or or record a show on 3188 02:29:49.799 --> 02:29:52.360 the TVO and then put that down and watch a 3189 02:29:52.360 --> 02:29:55.200 whole series or whatever. You know, I just put some 3190 02:29:55.280 --> 02:29:59.159 hobbies aside, some activities aside, and moved on. And maybe 3191 02:29:59.159 --> 02:30:00.840 that you have to take some stuff off the burner. 3192 02:30:01.040 --> 02:30:04.079 Maybe that's the answer here. And then the other side 3193 02:30:04.120 --> 02:30:06.799 is it will just like it's gonna put holes in 3194 02:30:06.840 --> 02:30:09.120 your brain. Like it's just gonna it's going to like 3195 02:30:09.159 --> 02:30:11.760 my memory is so bad because I've had kids great 3196 02:30:11.840 --> 02:30:15.600 years now, and uh yeah, there's there's just no getting 3197 02:30:15.600 --> 02:30:16.799 around some of those things. 3198 02:30:16.959 --> 02:30:19.159 You'll just have to roll with it. But you're doing great, 3199 02:30:19.399 --> 02:30:22.200 keep at it, and you're gonna be just fine. You know. 3200 02:30:22.319 --> 02:30:24.280 I'm not a father at all, but I think the 3201 02:30:24.319 --> 02:30:26.879 fact that you took the time to recognize that you're 3202 02:30:26.920 --> 02:30:28.040 going through these things. 3203 02:30:28.000 --> 02:30:30.399 Was also a big step. You know, just make sure 3204 02:30:30.399 --> 02:30:33.040 you're communicating with your partner. Dan. Do you have anything 3205 02:30:33.079 --> 02:30:35.760 to add to this about fatherhood. I'm just thinking, like 3206 02:30:35.799 --> 02:30:38.440 if Grub's saying like the kids are the reason the 3207 02:30:38.479 --> 02:30:40.600 memory and stuff, I can't imagine what kids would do 3208 02:30:40.680 --> 02:30:42.840 to my fucking brain. I don't have that excuse. 3209 02:30:43.319 --> 02:30:45.479 Just like literally you would be able to feel the 3210 02:30:45.520 --> 02:30:47.479 gaps in your brain, like that's what it just feels 3211 02:30:47.520 --> 02:30:48.559 like there's holes up there for me. 3212 02:30:48.680 --> 02:30:51.079 Yeah, anyway, but that's probably just beer, not kids. 3213 02:30:53.520 --> 02:30:57.959 Yeah, Okay, anyway, last email of the show, and I'm 3214 02:30:57.959 --> 02:31:00.440 gonna preface this by saying, I know you know, the 3215 02:31:00.520 --> 02:31:04.799 last emailer asked about fatherly advice, But do not take 3216 02:31:04.879 --> 02:31:08.719 anything that we met, any medical advice that we give 3217 02:31:08.760 --> 02:31:11.680 to you explicitly. And also I'm gonna say the same 3218 02:31:11.719 --> 02:31:15.479 thing for us to not take any medical advice or 3219 02:31:15.600 --> 02:31:22.159 living advice from our audience plainly, all right, Joaquim writes 3220 02:31:22.200 --> 02:31:25.360 in hi last voicemail, Dump Truck, Dan said he bought 3221 02:31:25.360 --> 02:31:28.760 a sauna, which to me, as a finished person, sounded 3222 02:31:28.799 --> 02:31:31.440 more like a hot box. It's fine to drink while 3223 02:31:31.479 --> 02:31:35.479 using the sauna. Backlar is just overreacting. We finish people 3224 02:31:35.559 --> 02:31:39.000 have a personal connection with saunas. As you know, most 3225 02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:42.879 people have a sauna room in their home. Therefore, I 3226 02:31:42.879 --> 02:31:45.920 would say we have the knowledge about drinking while bathing 3227 02:31:46.000 --> 02:31:49.840 in the sauna. It's all good, Dan is right. Sure 3228 02:31:49.879 --> 02:31:53.399 you get dehydrated, but it's not life threatening. The sauna 3229 02:31:53.440 --> 02:31:55.559 is only one hundred and fifty degrees or something like that. 3230 02:31:55.799 --> 02:31:59.079 We usually bathe into over two hundred degrees with cooling 3231 02:31:59.120 --> 02:32:04.479 down periods in between sessions. Love bucking mm hmm, thank you, Walkie. 3232 02:32:04.639 --> 02:32:07.079 I will take that advice that I already was taking, 3233 02:32:07.440 --> 02:32:10.079 but it's I feel validated. So yeah, like I said 3234 02:32:10.159 --> 02:32:12.040 last night. One in the morning, I'm filled with fucking 3235 02:32:12.040 --> 02:32:15.280 turbo crust and and cocktails and beers, and I'm just 3236 02:32:15.280 --> 02:32:17.040 having a great time sweating all out in there. 3237 02:32:17.559 --> 02:32:19.600 What do you think this sauna is like still gonna 3238 02:32:19.639 --> 02:32:22.079 be there in five years. It's gonna be some kind 3239 02:32:22.120 --> 02:32:25.520 of bad ending for the sauna. I don't think it's 3240 02:32:25.559 --> 02:32:28.559 gonna hurt you unnecessarily. The sauna is going to break 3241 02:32:28.920 --> 02:32:33.319 or explode or catch on fire or something eventually, Dan. 3242 02:32:34.159 --> 02:32:37.000 I mean, we'll read the instructions on like inside it says, oh, 3243 02:32:37.079 --> 02:32:39.159 don't don't put any fabrics or anything over the heat pads. 3244 02:32:39.159 --> 02:32:41.440 That's fine, and also says don't you know with alcohol, 3245 02:32:41.520 --> 02:32:44.120 don't be in here. But so you're facing some of it, 3246 02:32:44.200 --> 02:32:48.000 you know. I think it's fine. It's like it's pristine. 3247 02:32:48.000 --> 02:32:49.600 It doesn't get wet and there. It's not gonna be 3248 02:32:49.600 --> 02:32:51.319 like a steam room thing where it gets moldy. It's 3249 02:32:51.319 --> 02:32:52.280 a dry son a box. 3250 02:32:52.280 --> 02:32:54.680 I'm gonna like set a reminder to ask me ask 3251 02:32:54.879 --> 02:32:57.479 Dan about his sauna in five years. I just want 3252 02:32:57.479 --> 02:32:59.000 to know what's going on with it. 3253 02:33:00.280 --> 02:33:04.520 Two hundred degrees, it gets one fifty, but he said, 3254 02:33:04.520 --> 02:33:06.120 if the finished ones are two hundred degrees. 3255 02:33:06.159 --> 02:33:09.639 That's the twelve degrees away from boiling. I I go 3256 02:33:09.760 --> 02:33:12.399 to that is a finished style one and they have 3257 02:33:12.520 --> 02:33:15.760 one that is like that, and it's like, that's crazy. Yeah. 3258 02:33:16.079 --> 02:33:19.040 I don't like saunas. I don't get it, and I've 3259 02:33:19.079 --> 02:33:19.440 never red. 3260 02:33:20.079 --> 02:33:24.959 I don't like well, okay, I also don't like I 3261 02:33:25.040 --> 02:33:27.680 don't like saunas or hot tubs because I I don't 3262 02:33:27.719 --> 02:33:28.639 like being too relaxed. 3263 02:33:29.719 --> 02:33:32.600 What oh, maybe that's what it is, Jane. I need 3264 02:33:32.799 --> 02:33:33.479 I need the stress. 3265 02:33:33.639 --> 02:33:37.799 I need the stress to like keep me together, scaffolding 3266 02:33:37.840 --> 02:33:40.120 to hold up my body, like external pressure. 3267 02:33:40.680 --> 02:33:43.719 How fucking good it feels to thirty minutes just read 3268 02:33:43.879 --> 02:33:46.200 and sit in the thing, sweat it out and everything 3269 02:33:46.319 --> 02:33:48.440 no screens and everything for bed, and then like go 3270 02:33:48.600 --> 02:33:51.399 right into a shower. Your fucking pores are open as 3271 02:33:51.520 --> 02:33:53.399 hell and you're getting soap in there. You will never 3272 02:33:53.479 --> 02:33:56.280 feel c I'm not worried about it. I'm sure that 3273 02:33:56.319 --> 02:34:00.440 you'll never feel cleaner than in a post sauna. Showers 3274 02:34:00.440 --> 02:34:02.399 are all open and everything, you soap it all up everything. 3275 02:34:02.559 --> 02:34:05.040 You go to bed feeling so fucking fresh, and then 3276 02:34:05.079 --> 02:34:07.600 you wake up and you still feel just perfectly clean, 3277 02:34:07.760 --> 02:34:12.079 ready for the day. It's fucking awesome. I'll try to chat. 3278 02:34:12.399 --> 02:34:16.079 Try it. You gotta be Mario three in this thing. 3279 02:34:16.440 --> 02:34:18.120 And it's got bluetooth, so we can do all sorts 3280 02:34:18.120 --> 02:34:19.959 of stuff with that. Yeah, that's. 3281 02:34:21.440 --> 02:34:24.120 Still I still think a sauna without water or some 3282 02:34:24.319 --> 02:34:28.239 kind of like hydration component or steam just kind of 3283 02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:30.000 sounds like you're a temperature. 3284 02:34:30.000 --> 02:34:33.920 A sauna is dry. The steam room has its vapor. 3285 02:34:34.159 --> 02:34:35.280 It's water you pump in there. 3286 02:34:35.440 --> 02:34:37.200 Yeah, that's that's I can see the appeal of that. 3287 02:34:37.680 --> 02:34:39.319 I don't want to be a hot box. 3288 02:34:40.159 --> 02:34:40.319 You know. 3289 02:34:40.760 --> 02:34:44.120 Maybe you know a couple of emails ago, I said, 3290 02:34:44.120 --> 02:34:45.680 I'm going through some things. Maybe I'll just go have 3291 02:34:45.760 --> 02:34:47.280 a SPA day. We'll see what happens. 3292 02:34:47.840 --> 02:34:51.959 Yeah, well, go to place that has like the hot 3293 02:34:52.000 --> 02:34:54.360 and the pools and stuff, and I'll have the hot pools, 3294 02:34:54.399 --> 02:34:57.120 the cold pools and stuff. I don't buy into the 3295 02:34:57.200 --> 02:34:59.680 like fucking cold plunge stuff or whatever, but like doing 3296 02:34:59.719 --> 02:35:01.600 the song and end of the pool stuff is really 3297 02:35:01.639 --> 02:35:05.520 really good. We should have spa week. Yeah, I can 3298 02:35:05.639 --> 02:35:06.079 stream it. 3299 02:35:06.719 --> 02:35:09.639 I don't quite know what that needs week. 3300 02:35:10.280 --> 02:35:12.200 Yeah, well okay, oh I get to watch it. This 3301 02:35:12.360 --> 02:35:15.559 is great. Actually a stream from mycena. I could do that. 3302 02:35:15.719 --> 02:35:19.360 I won't be naked, Mike, or You're right, you're kind 3303 02:35:19.399 --> 02:35:22.000 of like employ where he's at. 3304 02:35:22.040 --> 02:35:24.079 So I get to watch it here and see what happens. 3305 02:35:24.200 --> 02:35:26.719 Great podcasting for everyone's gonna listen to it later this week. 3306 02:35:28.000 --> 02:35:32.879 Oh sorry about that. Just there. 3307 02:35:33.600 --> 02:35:35.959 For the audio listener. Mike Manatti looks like he is 3308 02:35:36.120 --> 02:35:37.920 not quite in a state of bliss, but it could 3309 02:35:37.959 --> 02:35:40.879 be that as well. Uh, Mike Manatti, if you feel 3310 02:35:41.120 --> 02:35:43.559 comfortable enough, hit me with some super chats. 3311 02:35:43.719 --> 02:35:43.920 Yeah. 3312 02:35:43.959 --> 02:35:45.319 I could use a break from this game. 3313 02:35:45.440 --> 02:35:48.520 All right. I'm not gonna take any crap. 3314 02:35:48.559 --> 02:35:50.360 You know how many podcasts I've done with Jeff where 3315 02:35:50.360 --> 02:35:52.399 he's just watching hockey or whatever. 3316 02:35:52.680 --> 02:35:54.440 The one time I'm keeping an eye on a game, 3317 02:35:54.440 --> 02:35:56.000 I'm not going to hear it. I'm not going to 3318 02:35:56.079 --> 02:36:01.639 hear it. I didn't say anything anything either. Oh, let's 3319 02:36:01.680 --> 02:36:03.760 run a poll with how's the keeper come along? You 3320 02:36:03.840 --> 02:36:06.159 get that figured out? Is that don't clean up? Yeah? 3321 02:36:06.520 --> 02:36:08.719 It's great, it's totally altogether. Look at that. 3322 02:36:09.239 --> 02:36:13.520 Yeah, Ricky B says the jurf quiet quit? Are the 3323 02:36:13.639 --> 02:36:14.600 kids still quiet? 3324 02:36:14.680 --> 02:36:19.600 Quitting? The kids are quiet? Quitting? Uh? 3325 02:36:19.639 --> 02:36:23.079 No, backgur Yeah really just quiet quitting, we're all slacker. 3326 02:36:23.200 --> 02:36:26.319 This guy not doing any work for using like that. Yeah, 3327 02:36:27.280 --> 02:36:30.520 I know he's he's busy, he's he's doing stuff with 3328 02:36:30.639 --> 02:36:32.520 his family, but also making things happen. 3329 02:36:33.719 --> 02:36:34.559 Yeah, just quit. 3330 02:36:34.959 --> 02:36:37.120 Actually, because you just quit, you don't get paid. That's 3331 02:36:37.159 --> 02:36:38.559 that was the benefit of QUI quitting? 3332 02:36:38.639 --> 02:36:40.239 Uh right? Yeah. 3333 02:36:41.239 --> 02:36:43.399 Ricky be also says, do you think Dan doesn't get 3334 02:36:43.440 --> 02:36:47.559 symbolisms and movies because he's always peeking during crucial moment? 3335 02:36:49.879 --> 02:36:52.239 Most movies I watch at home and we pause if 3336 02:36:52.280 --> 02:36:56.040 we're being you know, Yeah, I still don't get symbolism. 3337 02:36:56.760 --> 02:37:00.200 Urschel says, speaking of Silent Hill, when will Jan eat 3338 02:37:00.280 --> 02:37:01.079 Heather Vacation. 3339 02:37:02.399 --> 02:37:07.000 I don't know who Heather Vacation is. Maybe I'll embark 3340 02:37:07.120 --> 02:37:08.799 onto Silent Hill three eventually. 3341 02:37:09.040 --> 02:37:12.719 I just need a co pilot for that Heather vacation. 3342 02:37:13.760 --> 02:37:17.959 Vacation because I called Henry the protagonist of the first one, 3343 02:37:18.040 --> 02:37:21.319 Henry Vacation because I never remembered his last name. 3344 02:37:21.760 --> 02:37:25.239 I think it was Mason A wienerless Steve situation Right 3345 02:37:25.639 --> 02:37:29.840 Hill three, girl, I see I see Tyrant asks power 3346 02:37:29.920 --> 02:37:33.079 BombCast returns when bi weekly AW is good? 3347 02:37:33.159 --> 02:37:34.840 Yeah, sounds like AW is really good. I have no 3348 02:37:34.920 --> 02:37:37.719 interest in ww right now. Also just been it's been 3349 02:37:37.959 --> 02:37:39.360 too busy to really have a chance. 3350 02:37:40.319 --> 02:37:42.239 All wrestling is one of those ones that has come 3351 02:37:42.319 --> 02:37:43.799 off the stovetop a little bit. 3352 02:37:43.920 --> 02:37:48.680 Yeah, but but I will say I know that's still 3353 02:37:48.760 --> 02:37:52.799 related to ww because Triple A and ww A earned 3354 02:37:52.840 --> 02:37:55.559 this weird partnership right now. 3355 02:37:57.079 --> 02:37:59.280 God, Triple A is so fucking hilarious. 3356 02:38:00.040 --> 02:38:02.559 They have I told the story about this, but they 3357 02:38:02.639 --> 02:38:05.760 have a dude whose whole gimmick is just cheeseburgers. 3358 02:38:06.719 --> 02:38:09.760 Good, that's good. Yeah. 3359 02:38:10.440 --> 02:38:13.399 I did get the ip TV thing, which has nine 3360 02:38:13.440 --> 02:38:16.120 thousand channels, including just like anything that's on pay per view, 3361 02:38:17.280 --> 02:38:19.600 and so I have been like catching the occasional like 3362 02:38:19.799 --> 02:38:22.040 really weird wrestling pay per view. 3363 02:38:22.239 --> 02:38:26.040 And that's been fun. Just like I'll show you Dan, 3364 02:38:26.079 --> 02:38:27.360 I don't have something. 3365 02:38:27.600 --> 02:38:29.719 There's some yeahoo anime rules, there's I've saved a lot 3366 02:38:29.760 --> 02:38:31.959 of money here and it's a good deal so I 3367 02:38:32.040 --> 02:38:33.360 didn't have to pay for it, but it's like not 3368 02:38:33.520 --> 02:38:36.799 nearly as much as I was paying for cable. And yeah, 3369 02:38:36.879 --> 02:38:39.000 it's been pretty cool just to see like ten people 3370 02:38:39.040 --> 02:38:41.639 in a room and some weird wrestling stuff. So I 3371 02:38:41.719 --> 02:38:44.360 put on the background occasionally I'll be doing some more 3372 02:38:44.399 --> 02:38:44.520 of that. 3373 02:38:44.639 --> 02:38:50.120 Everyone is saying, shut the fuck up, Jeff set up 3374 02:38:50.120 --> 02:38:53.079 to me. Yeah, yeah, don't worry. I do watch. Like 3375 02:38:53.159 --> 02:38:54.680 you know, if I don't have something going on the 3376 02:38:54.760 --> 02:38:56.920 day of aw pay per view, I'll order it because 3377 02:38:56.920 --> 02:38:58.520 those are always you know, the matches are always great 3378 02:38:58.520 --> 02:39:01.479 and stuff. But yeah, sitting down, paying attention to stuff, 3379 02:39:01.479 --> 02:39:04.120 getting excited about stuff. Yeah. Again, if it's if it's 3380 02:39:04.120 --> 02:39:06.559 a night wrestling is on and I'm playing Hades on Switch, 3381 02:39:06.680 --> 02:39:09.360 I will have it on in the background. But I couldn't. 3382 02:39:09.959 --> 02:39:12.079 I'm aware of what's happening from social media and stuff. 3383 02:39:12.079 --> 02:39:15.200 But like, boy, they I really think a peak Jan 3384 02:39:15.360 --> 02:39:17.120 with us up in that press box at uh in 3385 02:39:17.159 --> 02:39:20.600 Philadelphia and then ever since then, you know, SummerSlam was fun. 3386 02:39:20.760 --> 02:39:25.360 Going with Summerlam, I'm glad I got Yeah, but it's 3387 02:39:25.600 --> 02:39:28.000 just I mean in every way. Obviously there's the just 3388 02:39:28.120 --> 02:39:29.559 kind of gross stuff that they've been up to, but 3389 02:39:29.600 --> 02:39:33.040 also yeah, just without that, I think just the creative 3390 02:39:33.159 --> 02:39:36.280 and it's just not inspiring right now at all. There's 3391 02:39:36.360 --> 02:39:38.559 just a lot of reasons to not be super into 3392 02:39:38.719 --> 02:39:40.399 wweh at all right now. 3393 02:39:41.040 --> 02:39:44.239 I was a big fan of AJ or aj Lee, 3394 02:39:44.399 --> 02:39:48.120 I guess, and I have kind of missed most, if 3395 02:39:48.200 --> 02:39:50.360 not all, of her return other than seeing a couple 3396 02:39:50.360 --> 02:39:54.719 of clips. But yeah, aw I hear is going well, 3397 02:39:54.760 --> 02:39:58.079 so probably no power BombCast must soon unfortunately, but. 3398 02:39:58.159 --> 02:40:01.159 A yeah, still they're even with so many top guys injured, 3399 02:40:01.239 --> 02:40:02.719 they're they're doing some great stuff right now. 3400 02:40:02.879 --> 02:40:04.600 Did you see like when Vince mc manhad is what 3401 02:40:04.680 --> 02:40:07.399 eightieth birthday party whatever, and it was like super secretive, 3402 02:40:07.879 --> 02:40:10.600 but but the gift he gave everybody came was a 3403 02:40:10.760 --> 02:40:12.280 marble bust of his own head. 3404 02:40:12.799 --> 02:40:14.760 Yeah, there were one hundred of them, maid and yeah, 3405 02:40:15.280 --> 02:40:17.600 a marble bust with vins his head, which, by the way, 3406 02:40:17.920 --> 02:40:21.079 if you see one battle after another, Sean Penn is 3407 02:40:21.559 --> 02:40:25.200 just Vince McMahon in that movie. He fucking looks like him, 3408 02:40:25.440 --> 02:40:30.559 He walks like him. He just is in every possible ways. 3409 02:40:30.680 --> 02:40:32.520 There's parts where he's like just wearing a suit walking 3410 02:40:32.559 --> 02:40:34.639 down a hall and it's like, that's just Vince, that's 3411 02:40:34.840 --> 02:40:38.319 just Vince. It'd be incredible and a biopic. I need 3412 02:40:38.399 --> 02:40:42.440 to iopic. I need to see this movie really good. 3413 02:40:42.760 --> 02:40:44.959 It's very good, all right. 3414 02:40:45.120 --> 02:40:49.399 Simon from Saskatchewan says, question for everyone but Mike answers last, please, 3415 02:40:50.319 --> 02:40:53.399 what's your favorite type of mug? Normy eleven ounce? I 3416 02:40:53.600 --> 02:40:56.600 like the fifteen to twenty ounce mugs he'd activated things. 3417 02:40:59.719 --> 02:41:01.760 Give me look a little espresso mug, you know me, 3418 02:41:02.000 --> 02:41:05.280 That's what I like. But uh, if it has to 3419 02:41:05.280 --> 02:41:08.280 be a coffee mug, I want one that's like, you know, 3420 02:41:08.959 --> 02:41:12.120 really absurdly large. Give me one that's like way too big, 3421 02:41:12.239 --> 02:41:12.680 that's fun. 3422 02:41:12.799 --> 02:41:15.799 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I I like one with 3423 02:41:16.000 --> 02:41:16.840 a handle. 3424 02:41:17.079 --> 02:41:19.760 I guess I don't want a full four finger handled, 3425 02:41:19.840 --> 02:41:22.440 maybe like a two and then I'll just like pinky up. 3426 02:41:23.079 --> 02:41:25.079 Yeah, I like. I have a variety of just great 3427 02:41:25.159 --> 02:41:27.280 mugs from Giant Bomb's past, and I really think it's 3428 02:41:27.399 --> 02:41:29.600 just they looked nice, they felt nice, and it's great 3429 02:41:29.639 --> 02:41:32.120 for Giant Bomb to be represented in mug form. So yeah, 3430 02:41:32.159 --> 02:41:35.360 that berea use the ones. Yeah, those are the ones 3431 02:41:35.360 --> 02:41:35.840 I really like. 3432 02:41:37.360 --> 02:41:39.040 When I when I was a kid, my dad had 3433 02:41:39.079 --> 02:41:41.559 a Star Trek mug that was the Transporter room and 3434 02:41:41.639 --> 02:41:44.319 when you put something hot in it, the characters showed 3435 02:41:44.399 --> 02:41:46.120 up like they were being beamed in. And it's been 3436 02:41:46.159 --> 02:41:51.559 all downhill for mugs since then. Next up is from symbiosis. 3437 02:41:51.879 --> 02:41:55.600 Mike is a mug marketing genius. If the next round 3438 02:41:55.719 --> 02:41:59.600 of mugs ever comes, everyone will just buy them out 3439 02:42:00.079 --> 02:42:01.840 a spike. Yeah, that would be mean. I'll do you 3440 02:42:01.879 --> 02:42:04.120 all favor and we'll just avoid that whole scenario. Then 3441 02:42:04.200 --> 02:42:06.000 you don't have to worry about buying it. 3442 02:42:06.520 --> 02:42:11.360 We don't know. I'm gonna find the hard way. We 3443 02:42:11.399 --> 02:42:14.920 should just do mug week, right, like mug, like the 3444 02:42:16.319 --> 02:42:20.799 cup DLC like mugs and video games. You got course 3445 02:42:21.159 --> 02:42:23.639 there's that, that's it or just some you can play that. 3446 02:42:23.920 --> 02:42:24.719 We can find some others. 3447 02:42:24.879 --> 02:42:27.040 You play the visual novel. 3448 02:42:26.879 --> 02:42:27.559 In the cafe. 3449 02:42:28.319 --> 02:42:30.639 No, no, no, they have to have like a cup 3450 02:42:30.719 --> 02:42:32.680 stacking game, right, that's mug adjacent. 3451 02:42:32.760 --> 02:42:36.000 Oh sure, yeah, the game they. 3452 02:42:36.000 --> 02:42:40.079 Took thirty seconds to get to mug adjacent for your 3453 02:42:40.239 --> 02:42:44.040 whole week of mug content going great? 3454 02:42:44.239 --> 02:42:45.000 What else we got? 3455 02:42:45.319 --> 02:42:45.360 No? 3456 02:42:45.520 --> 02:42:47.959 The week could be five days and each day has 3457 02:42:48.040 --> 02:42:50.040 a new giant bomb mug reveal in the store. 3458 02:42:50.280 --> 02:42:54.639 Oh god, I guess on the stopping on shows because 3459 02:42:54.680 --> 02:42:56.479 my old job is gonna be nothing but dealing with 3460 02:42:56.600 --> 02:42:57.600 coup plaints. 3461 02:42:57.360 --> 02:42:58.399 For broken mugs. 3462 02:42:58.959 --> 02:43:02.200 You could none ever roasting in Horizons zero done you 3463 02:43:02.239 --> 02:43:04.280 collect ancient vessels, which are coffee mugs. 3464 02:43:04.319 --> 02:43:10.239 She just doesn't know what you call them. Series deadly premonition. 3465 02:43:10.360 --> 02:43:12.000 That's always coffee, right, yea. 3466 02:43:13.040 --> 02:43:15.079 My coffee. That what I'll give you. I'll give you that. 3467 02:43:17.159 --> 02:43:20.360 But I mean, yeah, yeah, that's not close. 3468 02:43:20.559 --> 02:43:21.639 That's the different thing. 3469 02:43:23.120 --> 02:43:25.000 Just vacation. Mike will handle bug week. 3470 02:43:25.239 --> 02:43:30.000 I mean Assassin's Creed. You rob some people, and that's mugging. 3471 02:43:30.680 --> 02:43:31.280 That is true. 3472 02:43:31.319 --> 02:43:39.079 Okay, I'm gonna lose Detroit when you do a red 3473 02:43:39.159 --> 02:43:44.280 damn bounty hunting stream and some mug shots get on 3474 02:43:44.399 --> 02:43:49.520 mug shots, but that on a mug says, I got 3475 02:43:49.639 --> 02:43:51.319 to read a super chat, Eggie says. 3476 02:43:51.959 --> 02:43:54.639 Any hype for the New Tron movie, I assume some 3477 02:43:54.719 --> 02:43:56.239 of you will be seeing it because you're either a 3478 02:43:56.719 --> 02:44:02.280 Tron pilled b restnor pilled or c Mike Manatti, I 3479 02:44:02.559 --> 02:44:03.559 like tront a lot. 3480 02:44:03.840 --> 02:44:08.079 I don't feel the real world. I don't what I 3481 02:44:08.159 --> 02:44:08.920 can handle that. 3482 02:44:09.760 --> 02:44:12.360 I just can't believe that they got what's his fucking face? 3483 02:44:12.680 --> 02:44:12.799 Uh? 3484 02:44:13.360 --> 02:44:16.360 You love? Yeah, Jared Letto, why the hell? 3485 02:44:18.559 --> 02:44:22.040 Yeah, they're both on their own private islands when cobo. 3486 02:44:22.079 --> 02:44:25.879 Themselves equally seriously, yeah, yeah, exactly. 3487 02:44:26.799 --> 02:44:28.959 I don't know I'm kind of I'm almost bummed, ucuse 3488 02:44:28.959 --> 02:44:30.639 I just already assumed that he's not gonna do that. Well, 3489 02:44:30.959 --> 02:44:33.079 you know, they're going to put Tron on the back 3490 02:44:33.120 --> 02:44:36.280 burner for another fifteen advertising it a lot. They're trying. 3491 02:44:36.319 --> 02:44:39.680 Maybe it'll do fine. I I liked Tron Legacy a lot. 3492 02:44:39.719 --> 02:44:42.399 I love the original Tron. The Tron Arcade game I 3493 02:44:42.440 --> 02:44:45.159 think is my favorite of those classic arcade games. If 3494 02:44:45.200 --> 02:44:50.000 I had had one, like eighties arcade Cabinet, right, it 3495 02:44:50.040 --> 02:44:52.639 would probably be Tron. I love the look of it, 3496 02:44:52.719 --> 02:44:53.959 about the way it plays, It's fun. 3497 02:44:54.559 --> 02:44:57.319 I never liked watching the Tron movies. I just always 3498 02:44:57.399 --> 02:45:00.479 enjoyed the vibe. It's a good vibe. I've never seen 3499 02:45:00.520 --> 02:45:03.000 the movies, but yeah, I mean, I basically just know 3500 02:45:03.159 --> 02:45:05.200 Tron from the Simpsons joke, and I always thought it 3501 02:45:05.200 --> 02:45:07.319 was supposed to be bad. He's the Simpsons joke is 3502 02:45:07.360 --> 02:45:08.879 that no one saw it, so I always just thought like, oh, 3503 02:45:08.879 --> 02:45:11.840 it must been some big flop. We apparently people like. 3504 02:45:11.879 --> 02:45:16.000 It, Yeah, transit. I I wonder what Dan would think 3505 02:45:16.000 --> 02:45:16.799 of Tron. I don't know. 3506 02:45:18.319 --> 02:45:21.840 I watched Tron the original recently for the first time 3507 02:45:22.559 --> 02:45:24.920 and thought it just was the sickest shit. 3508 02:45:25.120 --> 02:45:28.239 It looks so cool. It's like such an. 3509 02:45:28.200 --> 02:45:31.799 Extreme vibe that it overcomes anything else. And yeah, I 3510 02:45:31.840 --> 02:45:34.440 came away wanting to like decorate my basement with some 3511 02:45:34.680 --> 02:45:36.959 some weird Tron stuff for sure, I mean. 3512 02:45:36.879 --> 02:45:38.120 Trump, Jeff Bridges. 3513 02:45:38.239 --> 02:45:41.319 Also, you know, it's just I do lot. Yeah, which 3514 02:45:41.440 --> 02:45:45.120 is great. Also top tier Kingdom Heart's World Tron. 3515 02:45:45.280 --> 02:45:46.799 So yeah, I'm with you there. 3516 02:45:47.360 --> 02:45:50.079 I heard that the more recent four K Blu Ray 3517 02:45:50.200 --> 02:45:52.360 remaster of Tron was really well done. 3518 02:45:52.680 --> 02:45:55.120 Oh so maybe I'll check that out again. 3519 02:45:55.479 --> 02:45:57.200 It's been a moment. It's been a moment as I've 3520 02:45:57.200 --> 02:46:02.120 seen that. All Right, that's it for the super Chats. 3521 02:46:02.559 --> 02:46:07.879 Back to you, Jan fantastic. Well, we got another packed in, 3522 02:46:08.040 --> 02:46:11.799 stacked week. Here a giant bomb HQ Games Morning's popping 3523 02:46:11.879 --> 02:46:14.000 off for the rest of the week, right, Grub. 3524 02:46:14.559 --> 02:46:17.639 That's right. We will be back with some guests talk 3525 02:46:17.680 --> 02:46:18.879 about the news. It's going to be fun. 3526 02:46:19.559 --> 02:46:23.079 Hell, yes, voicemail dump truck popping off later this week. Mike, 3527 02:46:23.200 --> 02:46:25.479 I think you said you're gonna do like a quick 3528 02:46:25.600 --> 02:46:30.159 little short stream block for Super Mario Galaxy two on Thursday, correct, 3529 02:46:30.959 --> 02:46:31.159 you know, a. 3530 02:46:31.159 --> 02:46:32.760 Couple hours, maybe more. It's not going to be like 3531 02:46:32.840 --> 02:46:35.239 that super long Haities two stream or something like that. 3532 02:46:35.280 --> 02:46:37.399 But I want to play some Mario Galaxy two. I 3533 02:46:37.520 --> 02:46:39.200 might have so much fun. Who knows, maybe we'll play 3534 02:46:39.239 --> 02:46:43.639 for a while. I'm very excited to get back into that. 3535 02:46:43.760 --> 02:46:47.639 One Friday gang. I don't mean to alarm anyone, but 3536 02:46:48.239 --> 02:46:52.280 we are going to have ourselves a little party, a 3537 02:46:52.440 --> 02:46:55.120 Lego party party. But that's right. 3538 02:46:56.760 --> 02:46:58.600 This game is a little bit more streamlined than some 3539 02:46:58.680 --> 02:47:01.159 of the Mario party games, so I don't believe we'll 3540 02:47:01.200 --> 02:47:04.239 be stuck for five hours, but we'll see what we 3541 02:47:04.360 --> 02:47:05.040 can get down to. 3542 02:47:06.319 --> 02:47:07.760 Dantas, if you can figure out how to make it 3543 02:47:07.799 --> 02:47:09.639 as painful as possible, Dan, can you like look at 3544 02:47:09.680 --> 02:47:11.399 some settings and see if you can get like as 3545 02:47:11.479 --> 02:47:13.280 many turns as possible out of this thing. 3546 02:47:13.360 --> 02:47:14.959 And not for this stream, but at some point in 3547 02:47:15.000 --> 02:47:16.840 the future. Well that thing. I will be kind of 3548 02:47:16.879 --> 02:47:19.479 scouting it during this stream on Friday. Just let's go 3549 02:47:19.559 --> 02:47:22.239 through the menus and seven see what's possible. So I 3550 02:47:22.399 --> 02:47:24.760 like it, Yeah, yeah, all right, Well. 3551 02:47:24.719 --> 02:47:26.799 We'll get bricked up with the boys on Friday, but 3552 02:47:26.879 --> 02:47:30.239 before we can celebrate, before we can have a party gang, 3553 02:47:30.639 --> 02:47:36.200 tomorrow after noon we start a brand new season of 3554 02:47:36.399 --> 02:47:39.079 Bike Club and it is Dan Reichert's turn. 3555 02:47:39.760 --> 02:47:44.280 Dan, you excited. I have two packages right there, I understanding, man. 3556 02:47:44.360 --> 02:47:48.559 One of them is a costume. One of them is 3557 02:47:49.000 --> 02:47:51.559 the game. I have the three sixty hooked up. I'm 3558 02:47:51.559 --> 02:47:53.639 looking at it. I put in a disc of Capcom's 3559 02:47:53.719 --> 02:47:57.319 Dark Void yesterday to make sure it works. It unfortunately works, 3560 02:47:58.440 --> 02:48:02.719 so we are good to go for tomorrow. My prediction, 3561 02:48:03.879 --> 02:48:06.200 I have two that I'm you should I say out loud, 3562 02:48:06.239 --> 02:48:09.879 my prediction. Yeah. Yeah. At first I was thinking it 3563 02:48:09.959 --> 02:48:12.479 might because okay, because they told me that, like, well, Dan, 3564 02:48:12.600 --> 02:48:13.920 the costume, like you have a lot of what you 3565 02:48:13.920 --> 02:48:15.479 would need, just like on your body. I was like, 3566 02:48:15.520 --> 02:48:17.719 what the fuck does that mean? So I like Beard, 3567 02:48:17.799 --> 02:48:19.280 I guess, And so I was kind of thinking like 3568 02:48:20.639 --> 02:48:24.200 Dick Marsinko's Rogue Warrior. I've played that game. That game 3569 02:48:24.280 --> 02:48:28.959 is hilarious and terrible. And I also think Grub said 3570 02:48:29.159 --> 02:48:31.879 the name would be obvious, and so I'm thinking maybe 3571 02:48:32.079 --> 02:48:35.719 dan Bo instead of Rambo. And I did review that 3572 02:48:35.920 --> 02:48:39.159 three sixty Rambo game, and I looked at my review 3573 02:48:39.440 --> 02:48:42.200 and I did say, the third act of that game 3574 02:48:42.600 --> 02:48:46.600 is absolutely infuriating. So we'll see if it's that. But yeah, 3575 02:48:46.639 --> 02:48:49.959 I think either it's Rambo the video game or Rogue Warrior. 3576 02:48:51.440 --> 02:48:54.239 The art for the next season just came in during 3577 02:48:54.319 --> 02:48:56.959 the podcast that I have no I did conclude it's 3578 02:48:57.120 --> 02:49:01.920 what it is. So it's all say, you would know Rambo, 3579 02:49:02.440 --> 02:49:06.920 maybe don't know rog Warrior. What's a Rambo? What's a Rambo? 3580 02:49:07.000 --> 02:49:07.159 With you? 3581 02:49:09.280 --> 02:49:09.959 All right? Gang? 3582 02:49:10.120 --> 02:49:15.120 That about does it. For the week after this, shouts 3583 02:49:15.120 --> 02:49:18.399 out to Derek Stone, We're gonna be premiering a best 3584 02:49:18.479 --> 02:49:21.760 of Virtual Highlight or what. 3585 02:49:21.840 --> 02:49:22.600 Did well like? 3586 02:49:23.479 --> 02:49:28.440 I think Mitchell hide, Mike, I don't fucking know you guys. 3587 02:49:28.600 --> 02:49:31.440 You guys should know the name. You should have figured 3588 02:49:31.479 --> 02:49:36.440 out a name. Now every time we say it might 3589 02:49:36.479 --> 02:49:41.120 get so mad. It's trample. It's the best hide Mike. Yeah, 3590 02:49:41.120 --> 02:49:43.799 I think that's what we called it, right, Virtual hide? Sure, Mitchell. 3591 02:49:44.799 --> 02:49:47.319 Both of them are placed on words, So Mike didn't 3592 02:49:47.399 --> 02:49:47.600 like that. 3593 02:49:48.319 --> 02:49:50.920 I forgot in Dirty Work, Norm's name is Mitch. So 3594 02:49:51.040 --> 02:49:53.600 I thought of Mitch a million times last I was 3595 02:49:53.639 --> 02:49:57.760 watching it. Well, there we go again, prostitutes in my life. 3596 02:49:59.079 --> 02:50:02.280 Uh. That about does it for the Giant Bomb Cast. 3597 02:50:02.399 --> 02:50:04.600 We'll see you next week for another episode. Shouts out 3598 02:50:04.600 --> 02:50:06.680 to Derek Stone for the best. Shouts out to Turba 3599 02:50:06.760 --> 02:50:10.520 chankre editing the show, Shouts out to Chuck for general chuckery. 3600 02:50:10.559 --> 02:50:13.000 Shouts out to backla for backlaar. But until next week, 3601 02:50:13.040 --> 02:50:14.760 he's been Dan, he's been Mike, he's been Deep. I've 3602 02:50:14.799 --> 02:50:17.440 been Jan, and you at home have been beautiful. 3603 02:50:17.959 --> 02:50:19.280 Good Bye,