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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY Coustin's new radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Dan Walkins. We are going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about cell phones in schools here in Massachusetts. It

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<v Speaker 2>has been a subject that we've talked about before. I

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<v Speaker 2>think most of you have a thought or an opinion

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<v Speaker 2>on it. But at this point, there have been some

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<v Speaker 2>communities that have taken some pretty serious actions, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>including brockdon Fall, River, Mathune and Ipswich have implemented their

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<v Speaker 2>own cell phone bands. However, the come all of the

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts has not acted up until this point. However, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a movement afoot in joining us is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the members of the Massachusetts State State Senator Julian Seyr,

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<v Speaker 2>who represents Cape Cod and the Islands. Senator Seyr, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Nightside, How are you night Good?

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<v Speaker 3>Good to be with you again.

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<v Speaker 2>Then this is one of those issues that you would

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<v Speaker 2>think the legislature could come to agreement on fairly easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Really not a Democratic or Republican issue. Why has it

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<v Speaker 2>taken so long? I know that there have been some

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<v Speaker 2>bills filed for this session, and you are I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate sponsor of at least one of these bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why have we not acted sooner than this? I

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<v Speaker 2>read some statistics over the weekend that suggest that that

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<v Speaker 2>our high school students are not doing as well in

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years as they did before the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>And we can attribute obviously a lot of that to

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic. But has cell phone usage and the ability

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<v Speaker 2>of kids to have cell phones on them, in their hens,

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<v Speaker 2>in their pocket at school. Do you think he impacted

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<v Speaker 2>this as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, look, I'm someone who you know,

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<v Speaker 3>grew up with you know, came of age of adulthood

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<v Speaker 3>with cell phones, with social media. But I'm really glad

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<v Speaker 3>right that I went through middle school and when went

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<v Speaker 3>through high school before the advent of social media and

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<v Speaker 3>before the advent of smartphone. You know, especially in college

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<v Speaker 3>when when when Facebook came out? And you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>junior when when when when the iPhone was invented and

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<v Speaker 3>first came out? And really, you know, I really believe

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<v Speaker 3>that my education and my social development were all the

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<v Speaker 3>better for not having a smartphone on me at all

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<v Speaker 3>times when I was in middle and in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>The distraction factor, the bullying factor, the anxiety factor, and

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<v Speaker 3>and so so like you said, I think we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get some you know, quick traction on this. This

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<v Speaker 3>is actually the first time, you know, I filed the

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<v Speaker 3>deslation on this in partnership with Attorney General Campbell and

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<v Speaker 3>Promisent of Pice in the House. And so, George, why

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<v Speaker 3>I think move quickly here?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, really, I think schools are grappling with this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, about seventy percent of teachers report cell phones

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<v Speaker 3>being a problem in their classrooms, especially in middle and

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<v Speaker 3>high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And the more we just learn about the effects of

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<v Speaker 3>this technology, Uh, there's pretty significant mental health concerns. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're hoping to take take action. And that's why,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I filed the bill for the first time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this session which just got underway.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you if, for example, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a typical piece of legislation out there. Let's say that

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<v Speaker 2>there's some some legislation dealing with taxes. Well, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's going to be some some senators and representatives

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<v Speaker 2>who are going to be opposed, some are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be supportive of it. You're going to have corporations come in,

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to have you know, various lobbying groups come

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<v Speaker 2>in and what on just about any piece of legislation

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<v Speaker 2>that is up there. Very really do we get a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of legislation that you might think of as a

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<v Speaker 2>no brainer. I thought for a long time the whole

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<v Speaker 2>question of revenge pornography was a no brainer, and it

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<v Speaker 2>took more than a couple of sessions to get something

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<v Speaker 2>done on that. Who would be opposed at this point

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<v Speaker 2>other than some high school kids and middle school kids

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<v Speaker 2>would say, I don't want to give up my cell phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would this not almost get on a fast track

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<v Speaker 2>in both houses and onto.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what we're hoping to get again on a fast rek.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good question. I think we do expect opposition,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly from social media companies. Right this bill. This bill

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<v Speaker 3>does two things. It has a basically a bell to

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<v Speaker 3>bell policy, right that really says, look, when you're in school,

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<v Speaker 3>no cell phone use, giving students the opportunity to engage

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<v Speaker 3>with our education unfettered by digital distraction. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>second piece of the bill is putting important standards for

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<v Speaker 3>social media companies so that we're holding these corporations accountable

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<v Speaker 3>for the safety and the mental health of the young

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<v Speaker 3>people who are using those products. I expect we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>opposition from those social media companies. We may see opposition

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<v Speaker 3>as well from from from cell phone companies and others.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, but I really think in this instance, right, let.

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<v Speaker 2>Me ask you this Enator, you know more about this

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<v Speaker 2>than I do. Why not bifurcate those those aspects. I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you that that there might be some pushback

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<v Speaker 2>whenever liability issues are presented, and the folks at Meta

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<v Speaker 2>and Instagram would say, hey, it's not our responsibility when

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<v Speaker 2>some kid uses the cell phone for the wrong purposes,

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<v Speaker 2>But why not just take take the chunk of it

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<v Speaker 2>that I think everyone will agree upon, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're going to school, you have a cell

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<v Speaker 2>phone pouch that you put your cell phone in and

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<v Speaker 2>your locker and you'll lock it up and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>see it, oh until it's time to go home. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know some of the argument is, well, what happens

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<v Speaker 2>if there's some sort of a collect catastrophe at the

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<v Speaker 2>school in this day and age, you know, a school shooter. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I would think that probably at that point most parents

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<v Speaker 2>would hope that their child would be kept safe. And

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<v Speaker 2>that you know that that to me, it isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>serious objection, to be honest with you, because if my

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<v Speaker 2>child is in a school where there's a shooter around,

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<v Speaker 2>the last thing I want them to do is be

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<v Speaker 2>dialing the telephone and calling me and saying I'm okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because that could give away their location. If the shooter

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<v Speaker 2>just happened to be walking by, why not just bikeificate

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<v Speaker 2>that and keep it simple and just say, hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>go to school, go to public school in Massachusetts, you

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<v Speaker 2>turn either don't bring the phone to school, or when

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<v Speaker 2>you come in through the school you got to put

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<v Speaker 2>it in a pouch and and secure it for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the school day. Or am I being Pollyannish

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<v Speaker 2>when I.

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<v Speaker 3>Asked that question, Well, I mean I think we have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, twin challenges going on, right. It's it's not

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<v Speaker 3>just the device, right, and the technology, but what the

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<v Speaker 3>content and and and the interactions that are on that device.

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<v Speaker 3>And the more we know about how social media adversely

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<v Speaker 3>affects mental health. I mean everyone's mental health, right, but

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<v Speaker 3>but particularly for young people. I really believe these these

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<v Speaker 3>social media platforms, which who look are making a heck

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<v Speaker 3>of a lot of money off of all of us,

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<v Speaker 3>especially young people, that they have to, you know, have

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<v Speaker 3>common sense standards like age IC verification systems to protect minors,

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<v Speaker 3>default privacy settings so that you know we're minimizing harmful

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<v Speaker 3>engagement for young people, mechanisms to flag and wanted content. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's really a common sense and it's also a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, look, I'm really proud to have partnered

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<v Speaker 3>with the Attorney General and represented Pish and others, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to put forward this common sensilitization. We're going to work

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<v Speaker 3>to refine it and and you know, move it as

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<v Speaker 3>quickly as we can. But even just the attention we've

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<v Speaker 3>gotten on this bill, I think speaks to the public's

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<v Speaker 3>desire and the real need for us to take action here.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight other states have passed Bell de Bell policies that include,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, these sort of restrictions and these stafeguards, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's really time that Massachusetts joined.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I agree with you, and I wish you all

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<v Speaker 2>the best on this. My only concern is having covered

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<v Speaker 2>the legislature as a TV reporter a long time ago

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<v Speaker 2>and followed the legislature as a talk show host and

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<v Speaker 2>understand how it works up there. That I think if

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<v Speaker 2>the cell phone companies go up and argue about liability issues,

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of the members of the legislature might

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<v Speaker 2>be able to be persuaded to slow something down. But

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<v Speaker 2>just to save this group of high school students, freshman

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<v Speaker 2>and sophomore, juniors and seniors and middle school students, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>just let to see the bell developing passed immediately and

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<v Speaker 2>then take on the tougher issues. If they want to

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<v Speaker 2>fight you with the tougher issues, we'll get whatever support

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<v Speaker 2>you know you need on those. But I just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>afraid that and I think you probably know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying that that we'll we'll be talking about this sometime

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<v Speaker 2>in late July, or rather late June with the legislative

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<v Speaker 2>the formal session going out, and then we go into

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<v Speaker 2>informal session beginning on August first, which anyone legislator can object.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's my concern is that that the perfect will

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<v Speaker 2>be the will be the enemy.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the of the good on you know, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think on Beacon Hill, right, there's there's there's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>two routes often right one is additional one where just

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<v Speaker 3>it takes a long long time to get something done.

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<v Speaker 3>But then there's the other instance right where we move

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<v Speaker 3>all these swiftly on something in part and response to

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<v Speaker 3>health risk and give an issue. You know, look, if

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen anything over the last you know, week or two,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't count on social media corporations to be looking

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<v Speaker 3>out for health and safety and the well being of

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<v Speaker 3>a young people's that's clear to me now more than ever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the bell to bell policy as well as

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<v Speaker 3>really common sense and so just hoping that this one's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be in that sort of swifter category. Heck,

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<v Speaker 3>if we get this done by Junior July this year,

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be a record time. But I know you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the second year of the session in twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, really really eager to work on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the track record of getting things don Alice

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<v Speaker 3>Pie is a very respective member in the House, and

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<v Speaker 3>to have the support of the Attorney General here, I

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<v Speaker 3>think is hopefully a recipe for swift action on an

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<v Speaker 3>issue that we need.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, best of luck with it, Thank you one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one that I think everyone should agree on.

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<v Speaker 2>But do me a favor if you are able to

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<v Speaker 2>make significant progress on the whole ball of wax and

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with it as one piece of legislation that covers

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<v Speaker 2>everything the bell to bell as well as the issues

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<v Speaker 2>of liability and all of that. Let me know about

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<v Speaker 2>it and we'll support you on that. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I hope we're not talking about this six

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<v Speaker 2>months or a year from now and it's still has

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the bell the bell, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it's very clear that that that distraction

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<v Speaker 2>in school. Hey, when you and I were in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>there are enough distractions anyway, we didn't need cell phones

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<v Speaker 2>to even further complicate matters. So yeah, keep us posted

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I appreciate it, and uh all right, we'll tire

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<v Speaker 3>swist as we can. Thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome. State Senator Julian Syrah, Democrat who represents

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<v Speaker 2>Cape Cod and the Islands. Now, what I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>are remember of a member of the teacher, a teacher

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<v Speaker 2>suspect that it's also at this point bleeding down or

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<v Speaker 2>all of a student who's in high school or in

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<v Speaker 2>junior high school or in elementary school. You get twelve grades,

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<v Speaker 2>you get preschool obviously in kindergarten, but it gets a

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<v Speaker 2>get about ten years between, you know, by time they

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the second grade and you've got to graduate. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And there's no justification in my opinion for anyone opposing

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<v Speaker 2>this bill. What the Senator said was that when it

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<v Speaker 2>liability issues, yeah, the lawyers and the lobbyists are going

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<v Speaker 2>to come in and say, hey, wait a second, it's

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<v Speaker 2>that people used in the nineteen thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>and eighties. That there can be abuses. So jump on

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<v Speaker 2>because it is a no brainer. But as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>the Senator talked about any of the complexities, get on

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<v Speaker 2>the books, what we can get on the books, we

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<v Speaker 2>are you know, the state where Horace Man founded public education. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of public education that's not going on

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<v Speaker 2>because the distractions of cell phone six one seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>believe is a Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal or any everyone

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<v Speaker 2>should be in favor of this. Bring a cell phone.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to have a cell phone on the school bus,

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<v Speaker 2>want to have a cell phone, walk into school, whatever, Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>when you get to school, it's got to be stowed,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's got to be turned off, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have access until you go to your locker at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day to leave the school. Simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't get turned on until you're off the

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<v Speaker 2>school property, and it doesn't get it doesn't get it's

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, two four ten thirty six one seven

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<v Speaker 2>have classroom experience, obviously students, you were more than welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to call in and tell me either your positive stories

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<v Speaker 2>about cell phones or your negative stories. Again, nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with cell phones, just like there's nothing wrong with automobiles,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with a lot of things except how they're

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<v Speaker 2>used when they're used. Back on Night's Side after.

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<v Speaker 1>This, Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window

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<v Speaker 1>World Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a story in The Globe which prompted

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation, this issue tonight, this topic. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it before. And there was a need and mom who

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<v Speaker 2>years old and who had died buried at a cemetery

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<v Speaker 2>in Newton. And the mom believes that her daughter, who died,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the Globe, from an accidental overdose of drugs

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<v Speaker 2>that have been laced with fentanyl, she acquired through a

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<v Speaker 2>deal as she met through social media. Now that's a

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<v Speaker 2>broader issue, okay, And it goes to the issue of

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<v Speaker 2>just the accessibility that young people have through their cell phones.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that genie is out of the bottle

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think that there's any way that it

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<v Speaker 2>can be put back in. The cell phones are out there,

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<v Speaker 2>computers are out there. Kids can reach and get access

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<v Speaker 2>to things that people your age and my age would

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<v Speaker 2>never ever know how to find. And our heart goes

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<v Speaker 2>out to the woman who was profiled in the Globe

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<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of days and the loss of

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter, and the just the expression on her face tells,

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<v Speaker 2>it tells the heartbreak that she must that she has

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<v Speaker 2>to have here for the daughter, who is who's who's

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<v Speaker 2>lost her life at the age of eighteen. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's the larger focus. And in talking to state senators here,

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<v Speaker 2>the larger focus was what do you do to legislatively

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<v Speaker 2>impact these cell phones in terms of their liability, and

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<v Speaker 2>which as understandable, okay, but and but that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>complicate things in my opinion on Beacon Hill. And you've

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<v Speaker 2>often heard the phrase never let the perfect the enemy

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<v Speaker 2>of the good. And they should simply pass a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of legislation that would say, hey, in Massachusetts public schools.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they have the ability to legislate

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of private schools. Let's just focus on public schools,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's elementary, middle which I think everybody knows is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of sixth, seventh, eighth or seventh eighth, ninth, and

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<v Speaker 2>high schools that when your child or your grandchild walks

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<v Speaker 2>onto that school property. At seven thirty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>the cell phone goes off, and certainly when they walk

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<v Speaker 2>in the door, the cell phone is put in some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a safe location. They can put in their

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<v Speaker 2>locker as long as they don't access their locker later

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<v Speaker 2>on during the day or access to cell phone. They

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<v Speaker 2>can go back and forth to their locker, but the

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone has to be in a safe place. The

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<v Speaker 2>safest place is not to bring it to school. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are several school departments, public schools, districts Rocked

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<v Speaker 2>and Fall River, Methunea, and Ipswich have implemented their own

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone bands. There are eight states around the country California,

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<v Speaker 2>Big State, Florida, Big State, Indiana, Louisiana, Minnesota, Ohio, South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>and Virginia. Some of those states are fairly democratic, some

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<v Speaker 2>of those states are pretty Republican. Some of those states

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<v Speaker 2>are pretty balanced. The bottom line is, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there should be any disagreement amongst anyone that the I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think of a legitimate argument. I can think of

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of the arguments, and if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>bring them up and argue them, that's fine. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think there should be a groundswell of support of people

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<v Speaker 2>urging the legislature here in Massachusetts to as Senator Seir

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<v Speaker 2>referred to it as to being any access, never mind usage,

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<v Speaker 2>just access to the cell phone bell de bell meaning

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<v Speaker 2>from the moment in the morning when the bell rings

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<v Speaker 2>until the moment of the afternoon when the bell rings.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as simple as that. Now, maybe this is not

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<v Speaker 2>a subject that interests you, but if it does, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear from you. And if you have an

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<v Speaker 2>experience as a teacher, if you find yourself trying to

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<v Speaker 2>teach a class and you realize that some of the

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<v Speaker 2>students are using their phone to either text message or

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to other conversations, there are ways in which

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<v Speaker 2>the kids today are much more intelligent and knowledgeable about

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<v Speaker 2>how all of this technology works. They are being short changed.

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<v Speaker 2>They have one chance at an education. Maybe the education

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<v Speaker 2>will take them on through high school, into college and

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<v Speaker 2>onto graduate school. Fine, but for many kids, the end

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<v Speaker 2>of formal education comes many students at graduation at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of eighteen. And I think that immeasurable harm is

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<v Speaker 2>being done to the education of students in Massachusetts. We are,

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<v Speaker 2>as they mentioned before, the state of Horace Man where

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<v Speaker 2>public education was founded, and we should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>take a very quick strong step legislatively House Senate Governor

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<v Speaker 2>saying no cell phone usage in school Bell de Belle,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what Senator Seir referred to it as. And and

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<v Speaker 2>don't even complicate the other issues. Deal with the other

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<v Speaker 2>issues later, same separate bill. Simple as that six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>Can any of you tell me an advantage? I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that this is one of those where everyone agrees,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're not courageous enough to pick off the phone

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<v Speaker 2>and call. And if you disagree with me on this

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<v Speaker 2>one and think that, oh yeah, won't my kid have

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<v Speaker 2>a cell phone? Fine, let me know why. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand it. Don't understand the argument. Back on Nightside after this.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're talking about what I think of as a

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<v Speaker 2>no brainer. But sometimes what I think of as a

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<v Speaker 2>no brainer, people have pretty good arguments. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 2>people have to say. Going to start it off with

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<v Speaker 2>Steve and Cambridge. Steve to me, this is a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why should kids have cell phones in school?

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<v Speaker 2>During the day when they're supposed to be learning.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan, What I object to is the power that we

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<v Speaker 4>give the state government to control our lives in so

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<v Speaker 4>many ways. Sure enough, you know, taxes on cigarettes, seat belts,

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<v Speaker 4>so many things. I mean, I'm not saying they're all

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<v Speaker 4>bad or they're not good ideas, but I mean we are,

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<v Speaker 4>as American citizens, are supposed to be individual and be

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<v Speaker 4>able to make our decisions for ourselves, particularly adults. So

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, Dan, I walk through the streets of

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<v Speaker 4>Boston and Cambridge, and I get on the subways. It

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<v Speaker 4>seems like everyone is mesmerized by cell phones, not just

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<v Speaker 4>kids mesmerized all the time. What I would rather see is,

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<v Speaker 4>evidently you said that there are school districts that have

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<v Speaker 4>implemented strict cell phone rules.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Globe is reporting, and they have no

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<v Speaker 2>reason to believe that it's inaccurate. But the Globe is reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>There are about four different school systems around the state

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<v Speaker 2>have done that. The ones in question interesting group Brockton,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a school system that's in you know, real

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<v Speaker 2>urban school system, Fall River, Mathrowing, and Ipswich, which are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of more I don't know, they're None of those

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<v Speaker 2>are what you call your wealthiest of towns, but every

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<v Speaker 2>kid has a cell phone these days. My question is, Stave,

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<v Speaker 2>here's my question to you. We're talking about you and

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<v Speaker 2>I are taxed in large part to educate young people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's one of the responsibilities that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>We may not like it, but that's that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the places that my tax dollars go that I accept

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<v Speaker 2>and understand. And if some kids in a classroom are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to learn and others are goofing around talking on

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<v Speaker 2>the cell phone, being distracting those kids, I would rather

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<v Speaker 2>say to kids, hey, look, let let's split it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's have classrooms where cell phones are used and kids

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<v Speaker 2>where cell phones aren't used. It seems to me it

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<v Speaker 2>has an adverse impact. It's one thing if I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm sitting on an MBTA car, If I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on an MBT car and some knucklehead is next to

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<v Speaker 2>me screaming or talking wildly into a cell phone, I

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<v Speaker 2>can deal with that. I may say something and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>can you kind of keep your conversation down or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're a kid in school and you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to concentrate and there's some goofball in the classroom? Who's talking?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sooac to his girlfriend in the back? Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>where you want to go Friday night? Debbie? What would

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<v Speaker 4>Dan? Dan? I? You know, I one hundred percent agree

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<v Speaker 4>with you. I think this should be up to the

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<v Speaker 4>school districts and the principles. Why does it have to

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<v Speaker 4>come from the state. Everything has to come to the state,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, let's limit the number.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I make an argument? Can I make an argument

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<v Speaker 2>to you? My argument to you, counselor would be The

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<v Speaker 2>reason I think this has to come from the state

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<v Speaker 2>is that I don't don't trust all the school superintendents

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<v Speaker 2>to do the right thing. And I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>the school superintendents they all get you know, money, money

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<v Speaker 2>from the state to run their school systems. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>as if each school system is run basically upon just

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<v Speaker 2>the money. They all get money for school systems. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that take give the give the the

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<v Speaker 2>superintendent who doesn't have a backbone and excuse to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a choice. If it was up to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd let the kids do what they want. But but

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<v Speaker 2>I have to I have to compose this because this

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<v Speaker 2>is what the state says.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, Dan, I think I think we're just ceding

431
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<v Speaker 4>too much power to the state. And I think the

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<v Speaker 4>principles the you know, parents are involved in the schools,

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<v Speaker 4>uh to some extent, PTA associations, you know, parents, teachers associations.

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<v Speaker 4>I think. I mean, I agree with you, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>no brainer. I don't think the kids should have bones

436
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<v Speaker 4>in the schools at all. I just don't want to

437
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<v Speaker 4>see it going to the state.

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<v Speaker 2>We disagree on the implementation. I get it. I understand

439
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<v Speaker 2>the point you're making. It's a philosophical point. But I

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<v Speaker 2>want to make sure it gets done, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure it gets done for every kid who's

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<v Speaker 2>serious about going to school. Look, if you're a goofball,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to sit in the back of the room

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<v Speaker 2>and and pass notes to your buddies and and and

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<v Speaker 2>ignore what the teachers are saying. I can't prevent you

446
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<v Speaker 2>from doing that. You know, have ad it, and you know,

447
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<v Speaker 2>and deal with the consequences when when you're twenty five

448
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<v Speaker 2>and unemployed or twenty two in on them and you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Dan, Dan, I'll give you a pass on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Later, good night, Steve, and I generally are right

451
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<v Speaker 2>on point with each other. They're going to go next

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<v Speaker 2>to Alice in Beverly. Hey Alice, how are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh good, I've been a school nurse for a number

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<v Speaker 5>of years.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh thank you for calling it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it is a no brainer. And also some

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<v Speaker 5>of the things that you talked about, like I think

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<v Speaker 5>some kids, the kids would come into my nurse's office.

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<v Speaker 5>I worked in public schools, in private schools, and kids

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<v Speaker 5>would ask if they could use the telephones call their

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<v Speaker 5>parents for something in particular, you know, and as opposed

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<v Speaker 5>to using their cell phone when I was in public school,

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<v Speaker 5>and that some of the things that they pulled that

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<v Speaker 5>they said, something happened at home and I need to

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<v Speaker 5>get dismissed, and they would make up these stories. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>some kids don't like school, they don't want to be there,

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<v Speaker 5>and they would do anything they can to get out

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<v Speaker 5>of it. In no days, Like just the other day,

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<v Speaker 5>my friend said that her daughter was seemed to be

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<v Speaker 5>coming down with something, and of course I disagreed with

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<v Speaker 5>her because she said she wanted to let her come

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<v Speaker 5>home and take a nap because she was playing hockey

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<v Speaker 5>for the school hockey team. But what she did, but

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<v Speaker 5>she did. She didn't have to call. She wasn't calling

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<v Speaker 5>her daughter on her cell phone. She called the principal.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the principal could have said, no, I'm not dismissing her,

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<v Speaker 5>so she can play hockey. But you go through the

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<v Speaker 5>principle and the same thing. It's like just like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm older than you. But you know, we got by

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<v Speaker 5>with doing that. And that guy that said to me,

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<v Speaker 5>the state's got too much power. Well, the state has

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<v Speaker 5>rules and say we have to go to school one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and eighty days. Why don't we just throw all

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<v Speaker 5>the rules out and just say do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's the state can't say anything. You want an

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<v Speaker 5>educated population, Why the heck do you need to be

487
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<v Speaker 5>talking on a cell phone? And when she's doing a podcast,

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<v Speaker 5>the whole class is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I agree with you. I mean you and

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<v Speaker 2>I are on the same page. The other thing, too,

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<v Speaker 2>is I've heard some parents say, well, if there's ever

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a tragedy in the school, you know,

493
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<v Speaker 2>like a school shooting, I want to know my child

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<v Speaker 2>is safe. The last thing you want your child to

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<v Speaker 2>do if there's a school shooting going on, and you

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<v Speaker 2>want that kid to concentrate on hunkering down, making sure

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<v Speaker 2>that they're behind some desks and they have some shelter,

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<v Speaker 2>and they keep us quietly.

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<v Speaker 5>What the people are telling them to do, because the

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<v Speaker 5>grills and you just want some hysterical mother saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>get out of there, and get out of there, and

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<v Speaker 5>then the teachers saying, everybody, I've got a list here

503
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<v Speaker 5>for all the kids. You know, they don't say shut up,

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00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.240
<v Speaker 5>but it's like, quiet, get in line, do what I

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<v Speaker 5>tell you. I know what to do to keep you safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the other thing, the other thing, too, is the

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<v Speaker 2>kid in the cell phone is going to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>every the school is quiet, there's there's some guy walking

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<v Speaker 2>around with a gun, and you know he's going to

510
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<v Speaker 2>be dialing the cell phone. I'm okay, I'm okay, Yeah,

511
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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it. Everything's fine. Well, if the guy

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<v Speaker 2>walking by the door he is and realizes the people

513
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<v Speaker 2>in that room, he may decide to go in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>And and that's you do not want your kid calling

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<v Speaker 2>on a cell phone. You know, you want your kid

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<v Speaker 2>to be quiet, as you said, follow the rules that

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<v Speaker 2>the teachers or the school officials you know, supply, and

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<v Speaker 2>it hunkered down and be as quiet as you can

519
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<v Speaker 2>under the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I also say dan because I had some parents who

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<v Speaker 5>thought I was like too strict. They didn't want the

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<v Speaker 5>kids to have immunizations. It's a straight rule, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And they thought that I was the principal actually thought

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<v Speaker 5>I was picking on them because I was asking them

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<v Speaker 5>to have the immunizations before they came into the school.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he ended up leaving and taking a lucrative

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<v Speaker 5>job with the Force.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what's amazing, And I don't open it

529
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<v Speaker 2>this can of worms. But I agree with you. My

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<v Speaker 2>kids got all the ammunizations. I get all the immunizations.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my COVID shot, I get my flu shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't need to get off on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just no, no, no, but what But what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is at the same time, what we're now

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<v Speaker 2>saying is all these kids who have come across the border,

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<v Speaker 2>we have no idea what their immunization records are. We

538
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<v Speaker 2>have no idea, and and we're moving them into the

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<v Speaker 2>into the.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't come to school at the public school if you

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<v Speaker 5>don't agree.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but no, but no, Alice, you're not here on

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. What I'm saying is we're we're saying

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the to the parents of of of kids,

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<v Speaker 2>school school kids who they know, get your shots, get

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<v Speaker 2>your shots. But they're bringing in kids from halfway around

547
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<v Speaker 2>the world. You have no idea what the immunizations that

548
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<v Speaker 2>had or they haven't had, and they're mixing with the

549
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 2>population and you have you are seeing some some some

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<v Speaker 2>some diseases that we thought we were eradicated coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>There may be a relation. Alice got to run because

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<v Speaker 2>I pass my break. Thanks for getting us going here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate you your work as a school nurse.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Okay, all right, we'll take a break,

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<v Speaker 2>coming right back on Nightside, and I would mention to

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<v Speaker 2>you that we're going to change topics at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour, So Angelo and Stella, you're all set.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to Stellar, then we're gonna go to Angelo.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Stella First Stellar in Manchester, Massachusetts. Hey, Stella, welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 7>I am well thank you, Dan, So Dan, I agree,

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<v Speaker 7>no brainer, ring to ring, no cell.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone, Yeah, bell, the bell, ring, the ring, whatever you

567
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<v Speaker 2>want to call it. I'm with you. I'm afraid and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if if you heard my interview with

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<v Speaker 2>State Senator Julian Seer. What my concern is that they

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<v Speaker 2>will try to put a bill together that will be

571
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<v Speaker 2>so complicated that it will it will languish up. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just do the first one, bell to bell, no cell

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<v Speaker 2>phone usage. Then you start talking about the liability of

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<v Speaker 2>the cell phones because of the cell phone companies, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to bring in their lawyers and they're going

576
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<v Speaker 2>to say, hey, there's a problem with this, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>problem with that. That's what I think. I'm afraid that

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<v Speaker 2>they will end up the legislature will end up with nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>Ah well, first of all, call me Nai, but I

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<v Speaker 7>think if we go to this, it will be not

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<v Speaker 7>only helpful in the classroom, but just think about it.

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<v Speaker 7>They can talk to each other on their free time,

583
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<v Speaker 7>during their free time, their lunchtime. They're not going to

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<v Speaker 7>have those cell phones to keep them occupied, and that

585
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 7>could make a little bit of a change for our

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<v Speaker 7>young people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think no, and I think it would be

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<v Speaker 2>a change for the better. It's what's called human interaction.

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<v Speaker 2>It's learning how to socialize properly. Look, we all go.

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<v Speaker 2>I use a cell phone. I have a smartphone because

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<v Speaker 2>it's part of my job. When I'm done professionally as

592
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<v Speaker 2>a broadcaster, the cell phone, I'll keep the numbers of

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<v Speaker 2>people who are friends of mine and all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but everything else will go away, because it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>a time killer. And I kind of imagine being a

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<v Speaker 2>student and trying to study in the classroom where there's

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<v Speaker 2>two or three people in the back of the classroom

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<v Speaker 2>talking to you under their front, under their breath, with

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<v Speaker 2>covering up their phones, and so the teacher doesn't see them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Hey, what are we going to do Friday night?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, come on, That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, not all of that. The temptation you have it

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<v Speaker 6>and then you want to look at it. That's I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>it just makes sense. So as much as I don't

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<v Speaker 6>want government dictating what we do, in this case, I

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<v Speaker 6>definitely think no cell phone and sell. Okay, you have

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<v Speaker 6>another caller and the break coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thanks very much, you keep calling the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay you good night. Angelo and Newton. Angela, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>wrap the hour for us. I'm suspecting you agree with me, Angela,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you say?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan.

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<v Speaker 8>Did you ever have a phone when you went to school?

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<v Speaker 8>Did I have have a hope, have a phone I

617
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<v Speaker 8>went to school, No, we even.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we even had pencils and paper when

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<v Speaker 2>I went to school, Noly Knning.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, did you ever take a calculator or a computer

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<v Speaker 8>to school?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 8>You never had. You have to today? Then? Well today, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids I still know. I still do my multiplication tables.

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<v Speaker 2>I know eleven times eleven is one hundred and twenty one.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what, Let me what is eleven? Let me make

628
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<v Speaker 2>sure I got to write that down now, just for

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<v Speaker 2>the fun of it. Eleven times eleven, Yeah it is

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<v Speaker 2>one twenty one? Right, Okay, I was good on that.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay. The the how do you expect the kids to learn?

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<v Speaker 8>If they have a phone, they go to school to learn,

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<v Speaker 8>and if there's another kid sitting there beside them, he's

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<v Speaker 8>trying to learn something and the other kids on the phone,

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<v Speaker 8>how did you expect them to learn anything?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with I think it's distracting and and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with you. But what my fear is, and I raised

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<v Speaker 2>it to Senator Seer, is that they'll try to do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they love to refruit to these We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do an omnibus bill here, which is going to

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<v Speaker 2>cover everything, every possibility. You know, the the companies, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to fight you on whether or not kids

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<v Speaker 2>have cell phones in school. They won't fight you on

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<v Speaker 2>that because that doesn't it doesn't they don't make any

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<v Speaker 2>money on that. But if all of a sudden, you're

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<v Speaker 2>throwing in liability issues and my kid committed suicide and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he was on the cell phone too much during

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<v Speaker 2>the day or he was being harassed, Now at that

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<v Speaker 2>point you've got the lawyers coming in. The lawyer's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be saying whoa, whoa, whoa Wait a sec they say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I suggested to the Senator from the Cape

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<v Speaker 2>and the Islands, split the bill. Take the Take the

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<v Speaker 2>simple part that everyone agrees upon no kids should have

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<v Speaker 2>cell phones in school between when school starts and when

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<v Speaker 2>school ends. Bell the bell and get that passa. Then

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<v Speaker 2>go after them on liability issues separately.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when they if they want to bring your phone

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<v Speaker 8>to school, either keep in your locker room and keep

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<v Speaker 8>it locked up, or either bring it to school and

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<v Speaker 8>leave it in the principal's office. At the end of it,

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<v Speaker 8>then they'll give it back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't age they're going to. What they'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>do is say to these kids, you got to leave

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<v Speaker 2>it in the locker and you can't touch it because

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<v Speaker 2>you know what happen is if everybody gets in the

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<v Speaker 2>principal's office at three o'clock in the afternoon, you get

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of hundred kids try to find the right phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids would be walking around, where's my phone? No, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be a headache for the principle anywhere. All right, Agelo,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. I knew you'd be with me on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 8>You welcome there. You have a good reading. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks, all right, we get back. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about a showdown between a couple of presidents,

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<v Speaker 2>the president of Columbia and the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta tell you, Donald Trump won this one.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not hip to what happened over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>the President of Columbia flexed his muscles and then he

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<v Speaker 2>then he caved. Uh. So this is one you got

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<v Speaker 2>to give Donald Trump credit on We'll be back, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>open up the phone lines, we'll talk about the Columbia

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<v Speaker 2>president who he caved, you know, and I'm glad he

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<v Speaker 2>did trust me on that, back on Night's side, after

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<v Speaker 2>this