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Speaker 2: Dogmanencounters dot com forward Slash podcast. Tonight's guest has had
Speaker 2: more than one Dogman encounter, but it's unlike most eyewitnesses.
Speaker 2: He's handling his encounters really well. And that's always a
Speaker 2: really good thing, of course, but it's a surprise when
Speaker 2: I find out that an eyewitness has handled their encounters,
Speaker 2: especially more than one encounter. So well, well, let's bring
Speaker 2: him in here now so we can find out why
Speaker 2: he's dealing with those experiences so well. Tonight's guest is
Speaker 2: Ferris Reese. Ferris, Welcome to.
Speaker 1: The show, glad to be here.
Speaker 2: Well, that's great having you here. Feerris, Please give us
Speaker 2: a brief bio on yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm Shakespeare, Shakespeare or Old. I'm retired from George Power Company.
Speaker 1: I was an electrician for about twelve years. There pretty
Speaker 1: much it on that.
Speaker 2: So you worked on the high tension lines.
Speaker 1: Then well, I worked in a powerhouse on all the
Speaker 1: different equipment and shy that producers of electricity.
Speaker 2: Wow, you worked on them hot then Yeah, Wow, he
Speaker 2: got to be really particular about what you do in
Speaker 2: your working life on electricity like that. If you don't,
Speaker 2: it will definitely straighten your string. You didn't find out
Speaker 2: what it was that you saw until about four or
Speaker 2: five years ago. How did you find out what they were?
Speaker 1: Well, I've been watching a lot of these different shows
Speaker 1: on a Bigfoot dog Man, and one one night I
Speaker 1: was looking and I've seen one that looked exactly like
Speaker 1: the one that I had seen, And I told my wife,
Speaker 1: I said, that's it, That's what I shang. Before then,
Speaker 1: I was just gushing. I didn't really know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts that must have
Speaker 2: been going through your head when you finally could put
Speaker 2: a name to what it was that you saw those times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I bet you're ready to fall out of your chair.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was up running across the house.
Speaker 1: It's just amazing.
Speaker 2: Hell that you were understandably so too, considering how you've
Speaker 2: had more than one encounter with these guys. Do you
Speaker 2: think there's something about you that draws them to you
Speaker 2: or do you think it's just dumb luck?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not really sure. I wasn't expecting nothing that
Speaker 1: first time. I mean, I was just driving along, but
Speaker 1: when I seen it and uh, a few years later
Speaker 1: than I say, the other one, I don't. I can't
Speaker 1: really say, well that there you know something about it
Speaker 1: must be attracting them to me. I don't really know.
Speaker 2: Well, you've had two encounters. If you have a third,
Speaker 2: then that almost removes all of doubt that there has
Speaker 2: to be something about you. But of course, hopefully that
Speaker 2: third one's never going to happ up. And how much
Speaker 2: of an effect have your dog mean encounters had in
Speaker 2: your life? I know you've dealt with them very well,
Speaker 2: but can you point anything in your life and say, okay,
Speaker 2: well this is that way because of the dog mean
Speaker 2: encounters I had.
Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been out camping like I used to,
Speaker 1: but of course that's a lot of ash been because
Speaker 1: of either my job or that I had before retired,
Speaker 1: and since then I've just had a lot of things
Speaker 1: going on. So I do think about that though, that
Speaker 1: you know, I might encounter one out there and I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know or that it would
Speaker 1: be any different. I mean, I did have sheep metal
Speaker 1: around me that one time, and I had a shotgun
Speaker 1: in my hand the other time. But so I don't
Speaker 1: really know. I mean, I'm not really what you say, scared,
Speaker 1: but aware.
Speaker 2: Well, as long as you're aware, that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: That's always a really good thing. And in most cases
Speaker 2: you're going to find that eyewitnesses who weren't traumatized by
Speaker 2: their experiences, they can point to this or that and say, Okay,
Speaker 2: because of this one factor, because of this one element,
Speaker 2: that's why I'm not traumatized by my dog. Mean, an
Speaker 2: encounter or encounters as it sometimes happens, like in your case,
Speaker 2: from what you just said, do you think if you
Speaker 2: didn't have that sheet metal around you that tweet at
Speaker 2: Tacoma is what you're talking about when you have the
Speaker 2: first encounter, if you didn't have the shotgun with you
Speaker 2: when you have the second, do you think you would
Speaker 2: have been traumatized by those experiences?
Speaker 1: That's very possible, I know, I you know, well, just
Speaker 1: collars of the way things are changing in the world now,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't go out without something sunk kind
Speaker 1: of weapon. And you know it wasn't just becaus of
Speaker 1: the encounters that I've had.
Speaker 2: Well, that's understandable. I mean, there are two legged predators
Speaker 2: out there besides dog men that aren't always safe to
Speaker 2: be around. So I definitely get it, I really do.
Speaker 2: And since you weren't traumatized by your experiences, I don't
Speaker 2: want to jump to conclusions here, but since you were
Speaker 2: traumatized by them, does that mean that you almost feel
Speaker 2: lucky to have had them? Well?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if I feel luckier, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm uh. It was an experience, that's about all I
Speaker 1: can say. It was different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's a good way to sum it up. Different.
Speaker 2: I know you live out, but do you have a
Speaker 2: lot of woods around you or is it mostly farming
Speaker 2: land where you don't have a lot of cover for
Speaker 2: these things? What kind of area do you live in?
Speaker 1: Well, there is a lot of woods. It is getting
Speaker 1: populated around, but there's a lot of wood streame, Pune
Speaker 1: and so forth around. I mean, we got sweet Water Creek,
Speaker 1: dunk and Vine and they're just ever were around. So
Speaker 1: they got plenty of you know, water and places to hide.
Speaker 2: Yes, like a good place for dog me in to
Speaker 2: make a living With that in mind, have you warned
Speaker 2: any neighbors about these things?
Speaker 1: I've told some people. I had one neighbor that had
Speaker 1: seen it didn't know what he had seen, and they
Speaker 1: described the very first one that I ever seen, and
Speaker 1: it was in his yard, which was at the back
Speaker 1: end of my property at the time. So you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen it down the road and I've seen it.
Speaker 1: It's been Shayen right there with the inseection hundred feet
Speaker 1: of my house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely around. Unfortunately, when you're going to bed
Speaker 2: at night, again, you're not traumatized by the encounters you've had.
Speaker 2: But when you go to bed at night, do thoughts
Speaker 2: about these guys? Do they creep into your head a lot?
Speaker 2: Or is it something that you don't think about all
Speaker 2: that much.
Speaker 1: I just don't think about it that much.
Speaker 2: Well, you're in a good place. You really are, all
Speaker 2: right than fears. Please tell us about your encounters. Now,
Speaker 2: give us every last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Well, the first one that I seen, I had left
Speaker 1: the house, taken a future son in law at the
Speaker 1: time back to his grandmother's house where he lived, and
Speaker 1: I crossed the tracks, turned onto the road heading towards
Speaker 1: Potter Springs and after I crossed the bridge, the next
Speaker 1: spot it's lit up real well because of the phone
Speaker 1: company setting to the left, and there's a crossing with
Speaker 1: a business that's across the tracks to the right. And
Speaker 1: when I got up there in the light, here it
Speaker 1: come out of nowhere from the tracks, and that he
Speaker 1: was a very large I mean, I'm in a toiler
Speaker 1: Tacoma truck, four inch left kit mud tires on it,
Speaker 1: so that put it on up there good ways. And
Speaker 1: I was looking at it right in my eyes over
Speaker 1: the hood, and I'm thinking, what in my sin it
Speaker 1: wasn't registering. It looked looked almost as big as a
Speaker 1: pony as long as the lane that I was in.
Speaker 1: It was white, sort of mud color mixed in with
Speaker 1: the white stringy hair. I got a real good look
Speaker 1: at it because it's well lit up right there, even
Speaker 1: at ten o'clock at night. And I never seen nothing.
Speaker 1: I used to animals in the woods. I've seen them move,
Speaker 1: I know how quick a lot of them can be,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen nothing that fast. And of course
Speaker 1: the second one, it was jet black. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: see the eyes, but it was just as big as
Speaker 1: the other one that I'd seen. And I was coming
Speaker 1: across the yard from my mother and dad's house and
Speaker 1: got it right about property line, and it shot out
Speaker 1: from under an oak tree which was grouped down. I
Speaker 1: couldn't see it under the tree at all. It was dark.
Speaker 1: It shot out from under there and about three bounds.
Speaker 1: It was over in the next to the house, back
Speaker 1: in the shadows, and I didn't even have time to
Speaker 1: raise shotgown up. I didn't hear a thing as big
Speaker 1: and heavy as it was. It should have been making
Speaker 1: some noise, and it was. If I hadn't have seen
Speaker 1: it when it came out from nt of that tree,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know any thing about it.
Speaker 2: Are you glad that you know that you had at
Speaker 2: least one dog men around your property? Or are you
Speaker 2: one of those people that would be a lot happier
Speaker 2: just not to know, even if it's the truth. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of people out there who tell me that, Okay,
Speaker 2: even though they were around my property, i'd rather not
Speaker 2: know they were there.
Speaker 1: Well, by no one they're there. I know to be
Speaker 1: very watchful of them, all right, I'll look make sure
Speaker 1: I won't. I don't make a habit of going out
Speaker 1: after dark. Of course, my age, I couldn't move that fast, nohow,
Speaker 1: So I just have to depend on something to either
Speaker 1: slow it down or you know, if it tried to
Speaker 1: attack or anything. But so far I've been fortunate on
Speaker 1: that haven't had to worry about an attack. I reckon
Speaker 1: the closest would have been the last one that I've seen.
Speaker 1: If it was going to attack, I figured it would
Speaker 1: have done it. Then.
Speaker 2: He has had plenty of opportunities, that's for sure. Now,
Speaker 2: do you have any livestock around your property?
Speaker 1: No, I don't. There is over in the next county,
Speaker 1: which is just down to the end of the road,
Speaker 1: because my property's county line. There is a pasture with
Speaker 1: cows in it. That's that's your closest around here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had a lot of animals out there
Speaker 2: to tend to and worry about, that would definitely complicate things.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 2: Do you have a dog that you keep inside that
Speaker 2: you let out at nighttime or.
Speaker 1: Well we had one, Uh, well you just got a
Speaker 1: little cat now, so I don't have nothing. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: unless the cat can know something's out.
Speaker 2: Is that. I'm sorry to interrupt you there, that's.
Speaker 1: All right, That's the only thing I know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the cat would tell me anything like a
Speaker 1: dog would.
Speaker 2: Now, sometimes they do when a dog comes around, they
Speaker 2: get that Halloween scaredy cat looks sometimes. So yeah, it
Speaker 2: just depends on the care, depends on what the dog
Speaker 2: man does. Has anything ever happened where you're sitting in
Speaker 2: the house and something just felt off, It just didn't
Speaker 2: feel right.
Speaker 1: I've had have something like that. It happened a few times,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't put my finger on it and what
Speaker 1: it would be other than a possible dog man, But
Speaker 1: I can't shape for certain nights for what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best response right there. If you don't know,
Speaker 2: it's best to say that you don't know. It's admirable
Speaker 2: that you do that because a lot of people if
Speaker 2: they hear a branch fall outside after they've had a
Speaker 2: sasquatch encounter or a dogman encounter, then automatically it had
Speaker 2: to be one. So it's good that you're so levelheaded.
Speaker 2: That definitely is a big reason why you're able to
Speaker 2: handle this so well, And thank goodness for that. Talking
Speaker 2: about nighttime, do you go out at night still or
Speaker 2: are you pretty much a shut away after the sun
Speaker 2: goes down?
Speaker 1: After the sun goes down unless I just have to
Speaker 1: I inside.
Speaker 2: And that's strictly because of the dog men that you
Speaker 2: saw on the back of your property.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I try to get everything i'm gonna get
Speaker 1: done before it gets dark, and that way I won't
Speaker 1: have to worry about going out. But it's not not
Speaker 1: just cause of the dog man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have to be out and about
Speaker 2: after dark, there's no reason to be, so I get it.
Speaker 2: Idal How close was that dog man to you, the
Speaker 2: black one at the back of your property when you
Speaker 2: saw it at its closest point.
Speaker 1: At the closest point, probably forty to fifty feet.
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Did you ever give you the impression he
Speaker 2: knew you were there?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, because when he shot out under that tree,
Speaker 1: he had been watching me the whole time. He was
Speaker 1: to my left or to my right, and when he
Speaker 1: shot out from under there, he went to the left,
Speaker 1: heading out towards the house. And then you know, right
Speaker 1: between the ditch that I was coming upon and the
Speaker 1: and the house, he hit that shadow and they just
Speaker 1: blended right in. I never saw him again.
Speaker 2: When you're heading for that ditch, just doing your thing,
Speaker 2: moving along, Were you moving straight towards where he was
Speaker 2: under that tree or at an angle away from it.
Speaker 1: I was heading towards the house, which would have been
Speaker 1: straight in front of me, and the the tree would
Speaker 1: have been at the front right corner of the house,
Speaker 1: next to the ditch that I was coming to phone.
Speaker 1: So he was coming right straight straight in front of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine the thoughts going through his head. He might
Speaker 2: have been thinking, Okay, he's coming towards me. I'm about
Speaker 2: to have a furious reason encounter. Watch out. You never know.
Speaker 2: It's hard to say. You were looking at that first
Speaker 2: dog man right over your hood, the hood of your truck.
Speaker 2: You said, how close was it at its closest point?
Speaker 1: It was probably between fifty and sixty feet maybe when
Speaker 1: they come right out in front of me and look
Speaker 1: right over at me. When he as he went by, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here and now I'm gone.
Speaker 2: Huh did that one give you the impression that he
Speaker 2: wasn't happy about you being there and rolling up on it?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about his impression. I just I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there trying to figure out what in the world
Speaker 1: am I looking at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts going through your head.
Speaker 2: Some dog been in situations like that when you just
Speaker 2: get to sit there and watch them move. Some of
Speaker 2: them they look really smooth and every movement is planned
Speaker 2: and it's just like a symphony. Others they act all
Speaker 2: twitchy and their movements are jerky. It's like they haven't
Speaker 2: been walking along. It's almost like they're learning how to
Speaker 2: walk because they're so unsettled in their movements. How do
Speaker 2: you describe by this?
Speaker 1: One was moving, He was moving like he was going
Speaker 1: about ninety mile an hours, about the best mission. He
Speaker 1: was hollering it when they crossed that road.
Speaker 2: And he looked well coordinated.
Speaker 1: Hey, look he wasn't really coming across like like I
Speaker 1: would say a dog would, you know, real smooth and everything.
Speaker 1: It looked like he had to put forth a lot
Speaker 1: of effort where there's movements because those joints just didn't
Speaker 1: look right. They just looked like they didn't want to
Speaker 1: do what they really wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really hard to figure out. Some dog men
Speaker 2: they just move with so much grease. Like I said,
Speaker 2: others looks like they're just struggling to not trip over themselves.
Speaker 2: I wonder how that works if it's their proportions. Some
Speaker 2: dogmen have proportions that just don't want themselves to moving smoothly.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but that's just one
Speaker 2: of the strange, quirky things about these guys. Now, you
Speaker 2: went from having no dog mean encounters to having one
Speaker 2: at the back of your property after you had that
Speaker 2: first one and a pretty short amount of time. Do
Speaker 2: you think those two encounters were related somehow or they
Speaker 2: just happened that way?
Speaker 1: Well, I've often thought about that. I'm not quite sure
Speaker 1: about well, that it was like they were playing or what.
Speaker 1: But they just I just know what happened, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't expecting really in either one of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never expect to have a dogman encounter until
Speaker 2: you have it. That's pretty normal right there. Now, the
Speaker 2: black one, the second encounter you had. It came shooting
Speaker 2: out from underneath that tree by the corner of your house.
Speaker 2: But it's moving away at one hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 2: you said. But but did it do anything as it
Speaker 2: was running away? They gave the impression that it wasn't
Speaker 2: happy snarl at you or look at you with a
Speaker 2: nasty look, or did it just keep its head focused
Speaker 2: in the direction that was headed.
Speaker 1: He was just focused straight ahead. And the difference between
Speaker 1: him and the other one is now hat didn't look
Speaker 1: like he had near the problems like that first one dead.
Speaker 1: He ain't moved more graceful like.
Speaker 2: Seeing that right there is a perfect example. It's so
Speaker 2: hard to understand the black one was graceful. The first
Speaker 2: one seemed clumsier or just kind of out of sorts.
Speaker 2: Did their body proportions look that different that that might
Speaker 2: be an explanation, or did they have pretty much the
Speaker 2: same kind of proportions Maybe they were just different sizes.
Speaker 1: Well, the black one looked like he was could have
Speaker 1: been a little heavier set. He definitely had longer fur
Speaker 1: on him. The other one looked like he had more
Speaker 1: of a short short hair than than long. The longest
Speaker 1: hair that the first one had was around his head
Speaker 1: and the tail on the black one he was I
Speaker 1: couldn't really tell the actual size of him because he
Speaker 1: looked like he had so much hair.
Speaker 2: That's another thing that's so hard for me to wrap
Speaker 2: my mind around. These guys are so many different looks.
Speaker 2: It's hard to know what to expect when it comes
Speaker 2: to what a dog man's going to look. Like, if
Speaker 2: you have an encounter. Speaking of that, how would you
Speaker 2: describe their tails? Did their tails look disproportionately long compared
Speaker 2: to their body sizes? Or do you look stubby or
Speaker 2: pretty normal length?
Speaker 1: Well, as far as that first one, they looked like
Speaker 1: he had a fairly long tail. That second one they
Speaker 1: weren't by so fast. I didn't really I didn't really
Speaker 1: see the tale he was going so fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like he was trying to break some wind
Speaker 2: speed records. Mm hmm, Yeah, sounds like he was. You've
Speaker 2: heard about them being seen by quite a few people
Speaker 2: in North Georgia from what I understand. How do you
Speaker 2: find out about those encounters?
Speaker 1: Well, I've slain, I've seen a lot of that on YouTube,
Speaker 1: on a lot of those shows. And then when I
Speaker 1: was looking on your site, I found the map that
Speaker 1: was showing the different counties and telling them about how
Speaker 1: many encounters had been reported, you know, in different parts
Speaker 1: of the state. And it don't surprise me about North Georgia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got a lot of wild country there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I've heard about around over here
Speaker 1: in Cherokee County, Floyd County, Alden County, and uh, that's
Speaker 1: all right here where I'm at at copp County in Douglas,
Speaker 1: Dave Lash had anywhere from one Haulden County nine. Two
Speaker 1: of them was right here, was in a mile and
Speaker 1: a high from the house at Auburn, Hiram and Polden County.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look at how that land is in
Speaker 2: northern Georgia, it's hard to think of a better place
Speaker 2: for them to live. I mean, they've got all the
Speaker 2: resources they could want, plenty of room to roam without
Speaker 2: being seen if they don't want to be seen. I mean,
Speaker 2: you could have an army of dog men in there,
Speaker 2: and if they didn't want to be known about, no
Speaker 2: one would ever be the wiser.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Well, before I go on, if you have any questions
Speaker 2: you want me to ask Ferris, please type them in
Speaker 2: all caps if you're in the live chat. That way
Speaker 2: I won't miss them, p least hopefully. Okay, your wife
Speaker 2: knows about your encounters fears, But what does she think
Speaker 2: about all this? I mean, she went from one moment
Speaker 2: not hearing anything about dog men to the next moment
Speaker 2: her husband's telling her about this dog man encounter that
Speaker 2: he had on the way home in his truck one night.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you told her right after you had that
Speaker 2: first one. Does she seem to believe you? And what
Speaker 2: does she seem to think about all this?
Speaker 1: Well? I think she believes may she just to start with,
Speaker 1: so we hadn't been married but going on five years now,
Speaker 1: so a lot of this happened before man her got married.
Speaker 1: But I told her about it and she kind of
Speaker 1: looked at me kind of like, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Now she's she's heard enough and sane enough that, you know,
Speaker 1: from some of these shows and what I've told her,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she believes every word of it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's really good. Yeah, anytime you have support like that.
Speaker 2: It's not like you need the support it because you're
Speaker 2: not traumatized. But when your significant other is right there
Speaker 2: with you and they're not making fun of you and
Speaker 2: they believe you, I mean, that's about as good as
Speaker 2: it gets. It really is.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: From some of the things that you said, it sounds
Speaker 2: like you watch your fear of share of cryptid shows
Speaker 2: with that in mind. Now you've had these two Dogman encounters.
Speaker 2: Are you looking for dog me in shows to watch
Speaker 2: on TV? Or do you focus more on Bigfoot? And
Speaker 2: if you come across what looks to be a good
Speaker 2: dog mean show, you'll happen to tune that on. But otherwise,
Speaker 2: is it no big deal? And is it nothing that
Speaker 2: you necessarily look.
Speaker 1: Were turning on? I watched several of them today, dog
Speaker 1: Man and Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you have a dog man encounter or a
Speaker 2: sasquatch encounter, it really sets a hook in you in
Speaker 2: most cases, and you can't get enough info about them,
Speaker 2: So that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to learn all I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable. You go one moment for not knowing
Speaker 2: these things existed all of a sudden, having an encounter
Speaker 2: with one, It's only natural that you want some answers
Speaker 2: and some explanations. So that definitely fits. Well. Let's get
Speaker 2: to some of the questions from the people in the
Speaker 2: live chat now. The first one up is from Donella
Speaker 2: Eileen Grennick and Donella wants to know or Donna Huff
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, do you think these two dog men were meats?
Speaker 2: I don't remember if you already said that or not.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they were. I never seen him
Speaker 1: hang together. I did have somebody that was saying that
Speaker 1: they had seen two of the black ones. They may
Speaker 1: have been mates. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard to see about that. All we
Speaker 2: can do is guess. Yeah, yeah, that's all you can do.
Speaker 2: The next question up is from Miguel Floriano, and Miguel
Speaker 2: wants to know did your heart start racing when you
Speaker 2: saw it? I think he's asking about the second one
Speaker 2: or was it a casual Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Now the shaken one. Yeah, my heart was kind of racing.
Speaker 1: They just kind of caught me off guard because I
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting that to come out from my that tree,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I was looking, I had full view
Speaker 1: of the front yard, and all of a sudden, there
Speaker 1: it came.
Speaker 2: I apologize if you already answered this question, But what
Speaker 2: time do you say it was when you had that
Speaker 2: second account with a black one?
Speaker 1: It was probably around ten ten thirty, that same as
Speaker 1: the first one.
Speaker 2: So it's good and dark. Yeah, that makes even more frightening.
Speaker 2: But then again, like I said, you're not traumatized, Thank
Speaker 2: goodness to that.
Speaker 1: I didn't seem to affect me like that. Of course
Speaker 1: that could have been too because to start with, I
Speaker 1: really didn't know what I was looking at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I'm sorry after that.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't been so long in between. It
Speaker 1: just it well, it happened, you know.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm so glad you're able to take this and
Speaker 2: stride the way you have. Some people could have those
Speaker 2: exact encounters and they'd be ready to jump off of
Speaker 2: a bridge. So yeah, thank goodness you're taking this so well.
Speaker 2: The next question for you is from d Truth and
Speaker 2: d wants to know what height and weight would yes
Speaker 2: to meet in the eye color?
Speaker 1: Well, the eye color on a white one, it looked
Speaker 1: sort of a brownish orange. I didn't see no glowing
Speaker 1: from it like I've heard of some. The black one,
Speaker 1: I couldn't even shay the eyes. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you only can see what you saw. Yeah, can't
Speaker 2: be faulded for that. This next question up is from
Speaker 2: Christina Easterday, and Christina wants to know thank you for sharing.
Speaker 2: Did you smell anything and did it go quiet right
Speaker 2: before you saw them?
Speaker 1: Well? I wasn't really paying much attention at the time
Speaker 1: to how quiet it was, but I didn't smell nothing
Speaker 1: that much. I do know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of those things where sometimes I witness
Speaker 2: to smell something, other times they don't. This next question
Speaker 2: for you is from Cookies and Cream. Oh man, that
Speaker 2: sounds good. They want to know what year did these
Speaker 2: two encounters happen?
Speaker 1: All right, The first one was between two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and then last encounter that I
Speaker 1: had with the black one was like two thy fifteen,
Speaker 1: so a little while ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has been some time.
Speaker 1: But damn, that neighbor that I was talking about about
Speaker 1: two years ago, they've seen it behind the house about
Speaker 1: Shirk Shaunner fake from my house, right in his yard.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that means for at least a certain period
Speaker 2: of time it was hanging around. And I wonder why
Speaker 2: that was. I wonder if it was drawn to you
Speaker 2: or something else. Then again, if it came shooting up
Speaker 2: from underneath that tree on the corner of your house
Speaker 2: when you're walking towards it, then maybe not. It's just
Speaker 2: so hard to think for these things. It really is this.
Speaker 1: Well, that was the first one that I've seen, is
Speaker 1: the one that hain't described that they shane two years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh, the first one. Okay, I missed that.
Speaker 1: Wow, I have brained the black one shance that night.
Speaker 1: But the white one's been saying, and a couple of
Speaker 1: different places other than where I've seen it.
Speaker 2: Well, that first one when you said you're heading towards
Speaker 2: outer Springs and saw it, how far were you from
Speaker 2: home at the time, I was.
Speaker 1: Maybe a mile.
Speaker 2: Oh close? Then okay, yeah, that explains it.
Speaker 1: This next yeah, right there to the left, just before
Speaker 1: you get to the to where the phone companies at,
Speaker 1: there's a pond setting right there, and there's a stream
Speaker 1: that I had to cross to go by the pond
Speaker 1: to where he went. I don't know where that what
Speaker 1: Once they crossed to where that phone company was, where
Speaker 1: they took to the left towards the pond or to
Speaker 1: the right to the parking lot. I lost sight of
Speaker 1: him after that.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you did a good job. Notice what
Speaker 2: you did about these two guys. When you have these encounters,
Speaker 2: you deserve a lot of credit. Most people wouldn't have
Speaker 2: noticed what you did, so that's a good thing. Kiko,
Speaker 2: I'm going to butcher his last name, Kiko Villa VSI's
Speaker 2: Villa Vessi's wants to know can you share some of
Speaker 2: the stories of others in your area that said they
Speaker 2: saw the dog men? Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 1: Well, my brother h A, he had seen it. The
Speaker 1: white one. I believe it was during the daytime. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it was further down hire in Nuthia Springs Road,
Speaker 1: which I don't know. It might have been a couple
Speaker 1: of miles at most from the house when Hey sen
Speaker 1: it and they come back describing what he had seen.
Speaker 1: And they didn't didn't really know at the time until
Speaker 1: I told him later on what we were looking at.
Speaker 1: I was talking to him just today. I said, I
Speaker 1: don't know how close it was to you, but I
Speaker 1: got to say a bird's eye view of it. As
Speaker 1: far as the black one, that same son in law
Speaker 1: said that he had seen seen one and I had
Speaker 1: seen another one, so we figured there was at least
Speaker 1: two of them, and they were probably three hundred or
Speaker 1: so in different directions from one another when they were saying.
Speaker 1: So that's that's really all I can I can say
Speaker 1: about that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does make you wonder how many of
Speaker 2: those things you have in the area.
Speaker 1: It didn't give you time, That's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: It really does. This next question is from Cookies and Cream.
Speaker 2: They want to know what year was this encounter, But
Speaker 2: then again, you've had two, so you've already answered that, but.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine was the
Speaker 1: first one, twenty fifteen on the black one.
Speaker 2: Hopefully those are your only two encounters you're ever going
Speaker 2: to have, hopefully never gonna have another one. It looks
Speaker 2: like Renee Morrikuni wants to know where their face is similar.
Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't tell nothing about the black one because
Speaker 1: they so much hair they face on the first one,
Speaker 1: that song gun was just I mean, I've seen pictures
Speaker 1: of wolves, seen them on TV shows and stuff, and
Speaker 1: they're pretty. This son of a gun was as ugly
Speaker 1: as it could be. Had what I call alligator teeth
Speaker 1: because they overlapped like an alligator's with his mouth shut.
Speaker 2: I'll bet that's the sight you still haven't gotten out
Speaker 2: of your head.
Speaker 1: Oh no, And that's one of the pictures I had
Speaker 1: shame of one when I was looking. You know, one day,
Speaker 1: I shame that same picture of the head of the
Speaker 1: one I was looking at, and that's when I knew
Speaker 1: that's what I had shamed.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you found out what they were. It's
Speaker 2: one thing to have an encounter with them and know
Speaker 2: what they are, But if you never find out what
Speaker 2: they were that you saw. That just makes it that
Speaker 2: much more difficult. But then again, I think, like I said,
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why you're able to deal
Speaker 2: with these encounters so well, is knowing what they are
Speaker 2: and or I guess I should say were, and watching
Speaker 2: all these shows about them that you have, so that
Speaker 2: kind of takes off some of the mystery and that
Speaker 2: whole mysterious element. That's one of the biggest reasons why
Speaker 2: witnesses tend to be so traumatized by their encounters. This
Speaker 2: next question is from Miguel Fouriano, and Miguel wants to
Speaker 2: know was it a full moon when you had your encounters.
Speaker 1: I don't recall no full moon when I sang either
Speaker 1: one of them. I know the black one was you're
Speaker 1: in the summer munch when I shen it probably around
Speaker 1: this time of the year, going into August maybe.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: That, uh, the first one, it was way on up
Speaker 1: in the fall when I shanen it.
Speaker 2: I see a lot of people who live out in
Speaker 2: the country fairs, they don't have any drapes on their windows. Now,
Speaker 2: from talking with you, I got the impression that you
Speaker 2: probably do keep drapes on your windows and keep them
Speaker 2: shut at night time, But that's just a supposition. Do
Speaker 2: you keep drapes on your windows and keep them closed
Speaker 2: at night?
Speaker 1: I got blinds up.
Speaker 2: Did you have blinds before you had those encounters? Now?
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: After that first encounter, which was a mile away from home.
Speaker 2: That's one thing. But when you have one right at
Speaker 2: the back of your property there, back behind, that's another thing.
Speaker 2: When that problem is so close to home, it's at home.
Speaker 2: Did you put the blinds up after that first encounter?
Speaker 2: But or did you wait until the second one?
Speaker 1: It was we're in between. It was probably closer to
Speaker 1: the second one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you knew there's one that could be outside
Speaker 2: at any time, that changes things. I get it. Yeah, dude, yes, sir, definitely.
Speaker 2: It looks like Glenn Kamado wants to know. Did they
Speaker 2: have human legs or dog legs?
Speaker 1: Uh? That looked more like on a dog leg to me.
Speaker 1: But you're kind of out of shape, you know. The
Speaker 1: joints just didn't match like like they would on a dog.
Speaker 2: If they didn't match, then what parts of his leg
Speaker 2: structure were shorter than normal on a dog versus longer
Speaker 2: than normal?
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the thing they they Uh, the joint
Speaker 1: looked looked out of proportion for the for the way
Speaker 1: the leg was. It just looked like it was way
Speaker 1: longer than it should have been on both ends of
Speaker 1: the joint.
Speaker 2: But it just.
Speaker 1: The joint just didn't look like it it was supposed
Speaker 1: to move the way it moved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they just have some strange proportions in general,
Speaker 2: so why should I expect the legs to be any different?
Speaker 2: This next question for you is from d Truth and
Speaker 2: D wants to know do you think they're natural creatures? No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Was nothing nothing near anything natural
Speaker 1: I ever seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see how they could be when you
Speaker 2: consider all these things that such credible eyewitnesses report seeing
Speaker 2: them do, such as yourself. So yeah, that makes two
Speaker 2: of us. Would you be open and there's no pressure
Speaker 2: to do this, but considering that you've had that one
Speaker 2: encounter right behind your house, and then your neighbor told
Speaker 2: you about seeing that one that was right back there
Speaker 2: as well, do you have any interest if I could
Speaker 2: arrange it at having an investigator come to your property
Speaker 2: and come to your area, that is, to look around.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. Okay, I would
Speaker 1: like to find out more about possibly, I've got my ideas,
Speaker 1: but where they are actually calling home, not just a
Speaker 1: surrounding area, but full place that they hold up.
Speaker 2: Do you have any Keeves in your area?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's any caves close by where
Speaker 1: I'm at. I know back up where I hunted at
Speaker 1: in Paulin County. There could postu be a cave or.
Speaker 2: Two, because they do seem to like keeves. But then again,
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on what the season is and
Speaker 2: other things that are going on. Yeah, it just depends. Really,
Speaker 2: that's how it normally goes. It just depends. I've got
Speaker 2: a question for you from I think the youngest member
Speaker 2: in the life chat Kiel of Geats. That question is
Speaker 2: on a scale of one to ten. How pretty was
Speaker 2: the dog man?
Speaker 1: Well, the black one? Uh, from what I could tell,
Speaker 1: I wish they probably an eight. Uh the white one
Speaker 1: they struck out I chose on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like you must have been pretty ugly.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: No, I believe it. It looks like lumin one. Oh
Speaker 2: one wants to know what would you have done if
Speaker 2: you caught it? Although you weren't trying to catch either
Speaker 2: one of them. So I don't really understand that question.
Speaker 1: I don't know what i'd have done more more uh more,
Speaker 1: just want to get rid of it.
Speaker 2: I understand it'd be like the dog cheese in the car.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, it really would.
Speaker 2: This next one up is from Gail Floriano and Miguel
Speaker 2: wants to know would you like to see one again?
Speaker 1: I thought about it. If I knew I could say
Speaker 1: one and uh have the same whether they look or
Speaker 1: what or whatever you want to call it, that I've
Speaker 1: had with the lash too, ed wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good. Yeah, if you would have said you
Speaker 2: never want to see one of these things again, then
Speaker 2: that kind of hints at at a different direction than
Speaker 2: what we're going The fact that you're open to have
Speaker 2: another encounter. That's good, that's really good. That just hammers
Speaker 2: home the fact that you're dealing with all this so well.
Speaker 2: This next question is from Keelub Gates. He has another
Speaker 2: question for you and wants to know do you think
Speaker 2: they're the result of human and dogs breeding.
Speaker 1: That is a possibility from what i've some of what
Speaker 1: I've seen, or it could be could be some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that we're not being told by our government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's a long list. It's a lot
Speaker 2: of things they don't tell us. You can count on that.
Speaker 2: This next question is from Sergio and Mesa, and Sergia
Speaker 2: wants to know what would you say keeps you so
Speaker 2: detached from the experiences. Some people's lives are altered in
Speaker 2: some way from seeing these monsters.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing is if something does happen to me,
Speaker 1: I know where I'm going.
Speaker 2: You're a good man, and that's a good way to
Speaker 2: look at it. The truth wants to know, do you
Speaker 2: have any photos of any tracks?
Speaker 1: No, I don't have no photos. The most of the
Speaker 1: ground here is crash and it's until we have a
Speaker 1: good rainy shaven uh here in the spring and uh
Speaker 1: here in the winter, the ground will get all mush.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard you don't You won't hardly find no tracks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Without the ground being the right way, you aren't
Speaker 2: going to find any tracks. It's funny, Miguel just had
Speaker 2: a question that I was about to ask myself. He
Speaker 2: wants to know, well, Miguel Floriano, to be thorough, he
Speaker 2: wants to know after your encounter. Did you see any
Speaker 2: black SUVs or anything screams around your home?
Speaker 1: I didn't recall any.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, there's no rhyme nor reason. Sometimes
Speaker 2: when it seems like there's a presence, a dog men
Speaker 2: presence in an area, especially where people live, you'll find
Speaker 2: SUVs popping up you didn't see before, and other vehicles
Speaker 2: popping up that that never were there before. But some
Speaker 2: of the times that doesn't happen, even in areas where
Speaker 2: a lot of encounters happened. So there really isn't any
Speaker 2: rhyme or reason to that. But well, I'm sorry, please continue.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really just go out and advertise
Speaker 1: that I had Shane Shane anything to start with. Of course,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what i'd like, I said, what I
Speaker 1: was looking at a long while, I've kind of gotten
Speaker 1: an assumption of about what it might could be, you know,
Speaker 1: from hearing some talk about it. But until I've seen
Speaker 1: that that picture that I've seen with that one, that's
Speaker 1: first time I really knew what I was looking at,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have, you know, I kind of look
Speaker 1: at it like, well, since I didn't advertise it, and
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard nothing. Of course, I don't know if
Speaker 1: anybody else had seen it or not at that time
Speaker 1: when I had that would say anything. If there had
Speaker 1: been a vehicle like that around, I wouldn't. Probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I gave it a shacond thought, well.
Speaker 2: Some people would, some people wouldn't. But yeah, it sounds
Speaker 2: like if you didn't notice anything, there probably wasn't anything there.
Speaker 2: There probably weren't any vehicles that showed up, which that's
Speaker 2: always a good thing. I've got one more question for
Speaker 2: you before we throw in the towel, and this one's
Speaker 2: from Danella Eileen Greennick, and that is did you ever
Speaker 2: hear any sounds related to them?
Speaker 1: I never really heard no sounds. They were pretty well quiet.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I did hear was after that
Speaker 1: black one shot towards the backyard and went down, and
Speaker 1: I did hear somebody shooting back over a little later.
Speaker 1: I figured that's what they were shooting at. I did
Speaker 1: hear dogs are going, you know, sounding off back over
Speaker 1: in that area, but that's all I heard.
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder what that was all about, might
Speaker 2: have been related to one of these guys, But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really hard to say all we can do is
Speaker 2: guess about that. But before we do get out of here,
Speaker 2: did I ask you for your closing comments? I've got
Speaker 2: so much going on here. I apologize.
Speaker 1: No, you didn't ask, But that's uh main thing I
Speaker 1: want to do. If learn all I can about them,
Speaker 1: you know, if if I feel like I need too
Speaker 1: about them, or if I can find out they they're
Speaker 1: not gonna harm me. Make sure you all I know
Speaker 1: about finding one. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if there's any future in trying
Speaker 2: to find one of these guys unless you really know
Speaker 2: what you're doing, and very few people fit into that category.
Speaker 2: Trust me on that. But like I told you before, Ferris,
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you're dealing with these experiences so well.
Speaker 2: Thank goodness for that, because yeah, it can get a
Speaker 2: lot worse. It definitely can, and I deal with that
Speaker 2: all the time, so we'll just play the glad game.
Speaker 2: But having said that, thanks so much for coming on
Speaker 2: sharing the details of those experiences with us. I really
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome, sir, You are welcome. Well. Having said that,
Speaker 2: thanks again so much for your time, and have a
Speaker 2: great night. All right, thanks, we'll see well that's it
Speaker 2: for another episode of the show. Thanks as always so
Speaker 2: much for listening. And if you've had a dog mean
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Speaker 2: good talk about your experience or experiences. But having said that,
Speaker 2: thanks again as so much as always for listening. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it, and have a great night. A F.