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<v Speaker 2>Dogmanencounters dot com forward Slash podcast. Tonight's guest has had

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<v Speaker 2>more than one Dogman encounter, but it's unlike most eyewitnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>He's handling his encounters really well. And that's always a

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<v Speaker 2>really good thing, of course, but it's a surprise when

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<v Speaker 2>I find out that an eyewitness has handled their encounters,

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<v Speaker 2>especially more than one encounter. So well, well, let's bring

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<v Speaker 2>him in here now so we can find out why

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<v Speaker 2>he's dealing with those experiences so well. Tonight's guest is

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<v Speaker 2>Ferris Reese. Ferris, Welcome to.

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<v Speaker 1>The show, glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's great having you here. Feerris, Please give us

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<v Speaker 2>a brief bio on yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Shakespeare, Shakespeare or Old. I'm retired from George Power Company.

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<v Speaker 1>I was an electrician for about twelve years. There pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much it on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you worked on the high tension lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Then well, I worked in a powerhouse on all the

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<v Speaker 1>different equipment and shy that producers of electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you worked on them hot then Yeah, Wow, he

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<v Speaker 2>got to be really particular about what you do in

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<v Speaker 2>your working life on electricity like that. If you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>it will definitely straighten your string. You didn't find out

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<v Speaker 2>what it was that you saw until about four or

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago. How did you find out what they were?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've been watching a lot of these different shows

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<v Speaker 1>on a Bigfoot dog Man, and one one night I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking and I've seen one that looked exactly like

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<v Speaker 1>the one that I had seen, And I told my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, that's it, That's what I shang. Before then,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gushing. I didn't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts that must have

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<v Speaker 2>been going through your head when you finally could put

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<v Speaker 2>a name to what it was that you saw those times. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you're ready to fall out of your chair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I was. I was up running across the house.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell that you were understandably so too, considering how you've

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<v Speaker 2>had more than one encounter with these guys. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think there's something about you that draws them to you

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<v Speaker 2>or do you think it's just dumb luck?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not really sure. I wasn't expecting nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>first time. I mean, I was just driving along, but

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<v Speaker 1>when I seen it and uh, a few years later

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<v Speaker 1>than I say, the other one, I don't. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>really say, well that there you know something about it

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<v Speaker 1>must be attracting them to me. I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've had two encounters. If you have a third,

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<v Speaker 2>then that almost removes all of doubt that there has

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<v Speaker 2>to be something about you. But of course, hopefully that

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<v Speaker 2>third one's never going to happ up. And how much

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<v Speaker 2>of an effect have your dog mean encounters had in

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<v Speaker 2>your life? I know you've dealt with them very well,

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<v Speaker 2>but can you point anything in your life and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well this is that way because of the dog mean

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<v Speaker 2>encounters I had.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I haven't been out camping like I used to,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course that's a lot of ash been because

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<v Speaker 1>of either my job or that I had before retired,

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<v Speaker 1>and since then I've just had a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>going on. So I do think about that though, that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I might encounter one out there and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know or that it would

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<v Speaker 1>be any different. I mean, I did have sheep metal

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<v Speaker 1>around me that one time, and I had a shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>in my hand the other time. But so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know. I mean, I'm not really what you say, scared,

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<v Speaker 1>but aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as long as you're aware, that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's always a really good thing. And in most cases

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to find that eyewitnesses who weren't traumatized by

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<v Speaker 2>their experiences, they can point to this or that and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because of this one factor, because of this one element,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I'm not traumatized by my dog. Mean, an

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<v Speaker 2>encounter or encounters as it sometimes happens, like in your case,

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<v Speaker 2>from what you just said, do you think if you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have that sheet metal around you that tweet at

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<v Speaker 2>Tacoma is what you're talking about when you have the

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<v Speaker 2>first encounter, if you didn't have the shotgun with you

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<v Speaker 2>when you have the second, do you think you would

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<v Speaker 2>have been traumatized by those experiences?

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<v Speaker 1>That's very possible, I know, I you know, well, just

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<v Speaker 1>collars of the way things are changing in the world now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't go out without something sunk kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weapon. And you know it wasn't just becaus of

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<v Speaker 1>the encounters that I've had.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's understandable. I mean, there are two legged predators

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<v Speaker 2>out there besides dog men that aren't always safe to

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<v Speaker 2>be around. So I definitely get it, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>And since you weren't traumatized by your experiences, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to jump to conclusions here, but since you were

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<v Speaker 2>traumatized by them, does that mean that you almost feel

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<v Speaker 2>lucky to have had them? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but if I feel luckier, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm uh. It was an experience, that's about all I

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<v Speaker 1>can say. It was different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure that's a good way to sum it up. Different.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you live out, but do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of woods around you or is it mostly farming

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<v Speaker 2>land where you don't have a lot of cover for

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<v Speaker 2>these things? What kind of area do you live in?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there is a lot of woods. It is getting

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<v Speaker 1>populated around, but there's a lot of wood streame, Pune

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth around. I mean, we got sweet Water Creek,

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<v Speaker 1>dunk and Vine and they're just ever were around. So

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<v Speaker 1>they got plenty of you know, water and places to hide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like a good place for dog me in to

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<v Speaker 2>make a living With that in mind, have you warned

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<v Speaker 2>any neighbors about these things?

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<v Speaker 1>I've told some people. I had one neighbor that had

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<v Speaker 1>seen it didn't know what he had seen, and they

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<v Speaker 1>described the very first one that I ever seen, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was in his yard, which was at the back

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<v Speaker 1>end of my property at the time. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it down the road and I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been Shayen right there with the inseection hundred feet

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<v Speaker 1>of my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're definitely around. Unfortunately, when you're going to bed

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<v Speaker 2>at night, again, you're not traumatized by the encounters you've had.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you go to bed at night, do thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>about these guys? Do they creep into your head a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it something that you don't think about all

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<v Speaker 2>that much.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think about it that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're in a good place. You really are, all

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<v Speaker 2>right than fears. Please tell us about your encounters. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>give us every last detail that comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the first one that I seen, I had left

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<v Speaker 1>the house, taken a future son in law at the

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<v Speaker 1>time back to his grandmother's house where he lived, and

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<v Speaker 1>I crossed the tracks, turned onto the road heading towards

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<v Speaker 1>Potter Springs and after I crossed the bridge, the next

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<v Speaker 1>spot it's lit up real well because of the phone

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<v Speaker 1>company setting to the left, and there's a crossing with

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<v Speaker 1>a business that's across the tracks to the right. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I got up there in the light, here it

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<v Speaker 1>come out of nowhere from the tracks, and that he

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<v Speaker 1>was a very large I mean, I'm in a toiler

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<v Speaker 1>Tacoma truck, four inch left kit mud tires on it,

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<v Speaker 1>so that put it on up there good ways. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at it right in my eyes over

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<v Speaker 1>the hood, and I'm thinking, what in my sin it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't registering. It looked looked almost as big as a

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<v Speaker 1>pony as long as the lane that I was in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was white, sort of mud color mixed in with

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<v Speaker 1>the white stringy hair. I got a real good look

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<v Speaker 1>at it because it's well lit up right there, even

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<v Speaker 1>at ten o'clock at night. And I never seen nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to animals in the woods. I've seen them move,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how quick a lot of them can be,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've never seen nothing that fast. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>the second one, it was jet black. I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>see the eyes, but it was just as big as

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<v Speaker 1>the other one that I'd seen. And I was coming

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<v Speaker 1>across the yard from my mother and dad's house and

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<v Speaker 1>got it right about property line, and it shot out

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<v Speaker 1>from under an oak tree which was grouped down. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see it under the tree at all. It was dark.

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<v Speaker 1>It shot out from under there and about three bounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It was over in the next to the house, back

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<v Speaker 1>in the shadows, and I didn't even have time to

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<v Speaker 1>raise shotgown up. I didn't hear a thing as big

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<v Speaker 1>and heavy as it was. It should have been making

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<v Speaker 1>some noise, and it was. If I hadn't have seen

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<v Speaker 1>it when it came out from nt of that tree,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even know any thing about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you glad that you know that you had at

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<v Speaker 2>least one dog men around your property? Or are you

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<v Speaker 2>one of those people that would be a lot happier

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<v Speaker 2>just not to know, even if it's the truth. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people out there who tell me that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they were around my property, i'd rather not

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<v Speaker 2>know they were there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, by no one they're there. I know to be

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<v Speaker 1>very watchful of them, all right, I'll look make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I won't. I don't make a habit of going out

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<v Speaker 1>after dark. Of course, my age, I couldn't move that fast, nohow,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just have to depend on something to either

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<v Speaker 1>slow it down or you know, if it tried to

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<v Speaker 1>attack or anything. But so far I've been fortunate on

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<v Speaker 1>that haven't had to worry about an attack. I reckon

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<v Speaker 1>the closest would have been the last one that I've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was going to attack, I figured it would

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<v Speaker 1>have done it. Then.

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<v Speaker 2>He has had plenty of opportunities, that's for sure. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have any livestock around your property?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't. There is over in the next county,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just down to the end of the road,

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<v Speaker 1>because my property's county line. There is a pasture with

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<v Speaker 1>cows in it. That's that's your closest around here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you had a lot of animals out there

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<v Speaker 2>to tend to and worry about, that would definitely complicate things.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad you don't have to worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a dog that you keep inside that

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<v Speaker 1>Well we had one, Uh, well you just got a

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<v Speaker 1>little cat now, so I don't have nothing. Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>unless the cat can know something's out.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that. I'm sorry to interrupt you there, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, That's the only thing I know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the cat would tell me anything like a

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<v Speaker 2>Now, sometimes they do when a dog comes around, they

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<v Speaker 2>get that Halloween scaredy cat looks sometimes. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>just depends on the care, depends on what the dog

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<v Speaker 2>man does. Has anything ever happened where you're sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the house and something just felt off, It just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I've had have something like that. It happened a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't put my finger on it and what

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<v Speaker 1>it would be other than a possible dog man, But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't shape for certain nights for what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the best response right there. If you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's best to say that you don't know. It's admirable

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<v Speaker 2>that you do that because a lot of people if

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<v Speaker 2>they hear a branch fall outside after they've had a

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatch encounter or a dogman encounter, then automatically it had

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<v Speaker 2>to be one. So it's good that you're so levelheaded.

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<v Speaker 2>That definitely is a big reason why you're able to

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<v Speaker 2>handle this so well, And thank goodness for that. Talking

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<v Speaker 2>about nighttime, do you go out at night still or

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<v Speaker 2>are you pretty much a shut away after the sun

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<v Speaker 2>goes down?

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<v Speaker 1>After the sun goes down unless I just have to

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<v Speaker 1>I inside.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's strictly because of the dog men that you

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I try to get everything i'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>done before it gets dark, and that way I won't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about going out. But it's not not

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<v Speaker 1>just cause of the dog man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you don't have to be out and about

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<v Speaker 2>after dark, there's no reason to be, so I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Idal How close was that dog man to you, the

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<v Speaker 2>black one at the back of your property when you

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<v Speaker 2>saw it at its closest point.

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<v Speaker 1>At the closest point, probably forty to fifty feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow? Did you ever give you the impression he

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<v Speaker 2>knew you were there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, because when he shot out under that tree,

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<v Speaker 1>he had been watching me the whole time. He was

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<v Speaker 1>to my left or to my right, and when he

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<v Speaker 1>shot out from under there, he went to the left,

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<v Speaker 1>heading out towards the house. And then you know, right

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<v Speaker 1>between the ditch that I was coming upon and the

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<v Speaker 1>and the house, he hit that shadow and they just

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<v Speaker 1>blended right in. I never saw him again.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're heading for that ditch, just doing your thing,

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<v Speaker 2>moving along, Were you moving straight towards where he was

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<v Speaker 2>under that tree or at an angle away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was heading towards the house, which would have been

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<v Speaker 1>straight in front of me, and the the tree would

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<v Speaker 1>have been at the front right corner of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>next to the ditch that I was coming to phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was coming right straight straight in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine the thoughts going through his head. He might

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<v Speaker 2>have been thinking, Okay, he's coming towards me. I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to have a furious reason encounter. Watch out. You never know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say. You were looking at that first

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<v Speaker 2>dog man right over your hood, the hood of your truck.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, how close was it at its closest point?

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably between fifty and sixty feet maybe when

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<v Speaker 1>they come right out in front of me and look

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<v Speaker 1>right over at me. When he as he went by, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here and now I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh did that one give you the impression that he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't happy about you being there and rolling up on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know about his impression. I just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there trying to figure out what in the world

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<v Speaker 1>am I looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts going through your head.

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<v Speaker 2>Some dog been in situations like that when you just

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<v Speaker 2>get to sit there and watch them move. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>them they look really smooth and every movement is planned

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like a symphony. Others they act all

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<v Speaker 2>twitchy and their movements are jerky. It's like they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been walking along. It's almost like they're learning how to

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<v Speaker 2>walk because they're so unsettled in their movements. How do

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<v Speaker 2>you describe by this?

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<v Speaker 1>One was moving, He was moving like he was going

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<v Speaker 1>about ninety mile an hours, about the best mission. He

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<v Speaker 1>was hollering it when they crossed that road.

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<v Speaker 2>And he looked well coordinated.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, look he wasn't really coming across like like I

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<v Speaker 1>would say a dog would, you know, real smooth and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like he had to put forth a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of effort where there's movements because those joints just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look right. They just looked like they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do what they really wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really hard to figure out. Some dog men

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<v Speaker 2>they just move with so much grease. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>others looks like they're just struggling to not trip over themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how that works if it's their proportions. Some

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<v Speaker 2>dogmen have proportions that just don't want themselves to moving smoothly.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is, but that's just one

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<v Speaker 2>of the strange, quirky things about these guys. Now, you

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<v Speaker 2>went from having no dog mean encounters to having one

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<v Speaker 2>at the back of your property after you had that

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<v Speaker 2>first one and a pretty short amount of time. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think those two encounters were related somehow or they

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<v Speaker 2>just happened that way?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've often thought about that. I'm not quite sure

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<v Speaker 1>about well, that it was like they were playing or what.

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<v Speaker 1>But they just I just know what happened, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't expecting really in either one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you never expect to have a dogman encounter until

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<v Speaker 2>you have it. That's pretty normal right there. Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>black one, the second encounter you had. It came shooting

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<v Speaker 2>out from underneath that tree by the corner of your house.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's moving away at one hundred miles an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>you said. But but did it do anything as it

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<v Speaker 2>was running away? They gave the impression that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>happy snarl at you or look at you with a

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<v Speaker 2>nasty look, or did it just keep its head focused

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<v Speaker 2>in the direction that was headed.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just focused straight ahead. And the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>him and the other one is now hat didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like he had near the problems like that first one dead.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't moved more graceful like.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing that right there is a perfect example. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>hard to understand the black one was graceful. The first

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<v Speaker 2>one seemed clumsier or just kind of out of sorts.

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<v Speaker 2>Did their body proportions look that different that that might

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<v Speaker 2>be an explanation, or did they have pretty much the

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<v Speaker 2>same kind of proportions Maybe they were just different sizes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the black one looked like he was could have

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<v Speaker 1>been a little heavier set. He definitely had longer fur

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<v Speaker 1>on him. The other one looked like he had more

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<v Speaker 1>of a short short hair than than long. The longest

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<v Speaker 1>hair that the first one had was around his head

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<v Speaker 1>and the tail on the black one he was I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't really tell the actual size of him because he

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he had so much hair.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another thing that's so hard for me to wrap

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<v Speaker 2>my mind around. These guys are so many different looks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to know what to expect when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to what a dog man's going to look. Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have an encounter. Speaking of that, how would you

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<v Speaker 2>describe their tails? Did their tails look disproportionately long compared

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<v Speaker 2>to their body sizes? Or do you look stubby or

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<v Speaker 2>pretty normal length?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as far as that first one, they looked like

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<v Speaker 1>he had a fairly long tail. That second one they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't by so fast. I didn't really I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>see the tale he was going so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sounds like he was trying to break some wind

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<v Speaker 2>speed records. Mm hmm, Yeah, sounds like he was. You've

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<v Speaker 2>heard about them being seen by quite a few people

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<v Speaker 2>in North Georgia from what I understand. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>find out about those encounters?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've slain, I've seen a lot of that on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of those shows. And then when I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking on your site, I found the map that

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<v Speaker 1>was showing the different counties and telling them about how

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<v Speaker 1>many encounters had been reported, you know, in different parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the state. And it don't surprise me about North Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, got a lot of wild country there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know I've heard about around over here

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<v Speaker 1>in Cherokee County, Floyd County, Alden County, and uh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all right here where I'm at at copp County in Douglas,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Lash had anywhere from one Haulden County nine. Two

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<v Speaker 1>of them was right here, was in a mile and

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<v Speaker 1>a high from the house at Auburn, Hiram and Polden County.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you look at how that land is in

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<v Speaker 2>northern Georgia, it's hard to think of a better place

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<v Speaker 2>for them to live. I mean, they've got all the

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<v Speaker 2>resources they could want, plenty of room to roam without

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<v Speaker 2>being seen if they don't want to be seen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you could have an army of dog men in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they didn't want to be known about, no

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<v Speaker 2>one would ever be the wiser.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before I go on, if you have any questions

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<v Speaker 2>you want me to ask Ferris, please type them in

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<v Speaker 2>all caps if you're in the live chat. That way

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<v Speaker 2>I won't miss them, p least hopefully. Okay, your wife

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<v Speaker 2>knows about your encounters fears, But what does she think

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<v Speaker 2>about all this? I mean, she went from one moment

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<v Speaker 2>not hearing anything about dog men to the next moment

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<v Speaker 2>her husband's telling her about this dog man encounter that

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<v Speaker 2>he had on the way home in his truck one night.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you told her right after you had that

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<v Speaker 2>first one. Does she seem to believe you? And what

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<v Speaker 2>does she seem to think about all this?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I think she believes may she just to start with,

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<v Speaker 1>so we hadn't been married but going on five years now,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of this happened before man her got married.

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<v Speaker 1>But I told her about it and she kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looked at me kind of like, I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's she's heard enough and sane enough that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from some of these shows and what I've told her,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure she believes every word of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's really good. Yeah, anytime you have support like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like you need the support it because you're

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<v Speaker 2>not traumatized. But when your significant other is right there

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<v Speaker 2>with you and they're not making fun of you and

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<v Speaker 2>they believe you, I mean, that's about as good as

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<v Speaker 2>it gets. It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>From some of the things that you said, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like you watch your fear of share of cryptid shows

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<v Speaker 2>with that in mind. Now you've had these two Dogman encounters.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you looking for dog me in shows to watch

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<v Speaker 2>on TV? Or do you focus more on Bigfoot? And

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<v Speaker 2>if you come across what looks to be a good

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<v Speaker 2>dog mean show, you'll happen to tune that on. But otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>is it no big deal? And is it nothing that

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<v Speaker 2>you necessarily look.

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<v Speaker 1>Were turning on? I watched several of them today, dog

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<v Speaker 1>Man and Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you have a dog man encounter or a

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatch encounter, it really sets a hook in you in

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<v Speaker 2>most cases, and you can't get enough info about them,

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<v Speaker 2>So that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to learn all I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's understandable. You go one moment for not knowing

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<v Speaker 2>these things existed all of a sudden, having an encounter

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<v Speaker 2>with one, It's only natural that you want some answers

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<v Speaker 2>and some explanations. So that definitely fits. Well. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the questions from the people in the

424
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<v Speaker 2>live chat now. The first one up is from Donella

425
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Eileen Grennick and Donella wants to know or Donna Huff

426
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, do you think these two dog men were meats?

427
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember if you already said that or not.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

429
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that they were. I never seen him

430
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>hang together. I did have somebody that was saying that

431
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they had seen two of the black ones. They may

432
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.119
<v Speaker 1>have been mates. I don't know.

433
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so hard to see about that. All we

434
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 2>can do is guess. Yeah, yeah, that's all you can do.

435
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 2>The next question up is from Miguel Floriano, and Miguel

436
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 2>wants to know did your heart start racing when you

437
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>saw it? I think he's asking about the second one

438
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>or was it a casual Oh wow.

439
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Now the shaken one. Yeah, my heart was kind of racing.

440
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 1>They just kind of caught me off guard because I

441
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't expecting that to come out from my that tree,

442
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I was looking, I had full view

443
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of the front yard, and all of a sudden, there

444
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:14.119
<v Speaker 1>it came.

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize if you already answered this question, But what

446
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 2>time do you say it was when you had that

447
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.039
<v Speaker 2>second account with a black one?

448
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 1>It was probably around ten ten thirty, that same as

449
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:33.039
<v Speaker 1>the first one.

450
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>So it's good and dark. Yeah, that makes even more frightening.

451
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>But then again, like I said, you're not traumatized, Thank

452
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>goodness to that.

453
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't seem to affect me like that. Of course

454
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.319
<v Speaker 1>that could have been too because to start with, I

455
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 1>really didn't know what I was looking at.

456
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes I'm sorry after that.

457
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't been so long in between. It

458
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 1>just it well, it happened, you know.

459
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm so glad you're able to take this and

460
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 2>stride the way you have. Some people could have those

461
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 2>exact encounters and they'd be ready to jump off of

462
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:29.239
<v Speaker 2>a bridge. So yeah, thank goodness you're taking this so well.

463
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>The next question for you is from d Truth and

464
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>d wants to know what height and weight would yes

465
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<v Speaker 2>to meet in the eye color?

466
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, the eye color on a white one, it looked

467
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>sort of a brownish orange. I didn't see no glowing

468
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:03.639
<v Speaker 1>from it like I've heard of some. The black one,

469
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even shay the eyes. I don't know.

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00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you only can see what you saw. Yeah, can't

471
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>be faulded for that. This next question up is from

472
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Christina Easterday, and Christina wants to know thank you for sharing.

473
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Did you smell anything and did it go quiet right

474
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 2>before you saw them?

475
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Well? I wasn't really paying much attention at the time

476
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>to how quiet it was, but I didn't smell nothing

477
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 1>that much. I do know.

478
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's one of those things where sometimes I witness

479
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.599
<v Speaker 2>to smell something, other times they don't. This next question

480
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>for you is from Cookies and Cream. Oh man, that

481
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 2>sounds good. They want to know what year did these

482
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:07.760
<v Speaker 2>two encounters happen?

483
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:14.119
<v Speaker 1>All right, The first one was between two thousand and eight,

484
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine, and then last encounter that I

485
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>had with the black one was like two thy fifteen,

486
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 1>so a little while ago.

487
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it has been some time.

488
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>But damn, that neighbor that I was talking about about

489
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 1>two years ago, they've seen it behind the house about

490
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Shirk Shaunner fake from my house, right in his yard.

491
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, that means for at least a certain period

492
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>of time it was hanging around. And I wonder why

493
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.679
<v Speaker 2>that was. I wonder if it was drawn to you

494
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 2>or something else. Then again, if it came shooting up

495
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 2>from underneath that tree on the corner of your house

496
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>when you're walking towards it, then maybe not. It's just

497
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>so hard to think for these things. It really is this.

498
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, that was the first one that I've seen, is

499
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 1>the one that hain't described that they shane two years ago.

500
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the first one. Okay, I missed that.

501
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I have brained the black one shance that night.

502
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 1>But the white one's been saying, and a couple of

503
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>different places other than where I've seen it.

504
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, that first one when you said you're heading towards

505
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 2>outer Springs and saw it, how far were you from

506
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.239
<v Speaker 2>home at the time, I was.

507
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Maybe a mile.

508
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh close? Then okay, yeah, that explains it.

509
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>This next yeah, right there to the left, just before

510
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you get to the to where the phone companies at,

511
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a pond setting right there, and there's a stream

512
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that I had to cross to go by the pond

513
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 1>to where he went. I don't know where that what

514
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Once they crossed to where that phone company was, where

515
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>they took to the left towards the pond or to

516
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the right to the parking lot. I lost sight of

517
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>him after that.

518
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you did a good job. Notice what

519
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you did about these two guys. When you have these encounters,

520
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you deserve a lot of credit. Most people wouldn't have

521
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>noticed what you did, so that's a good thing. Kiko,

522
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to butcher his last name, Kiko Villa VSI's

523
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Villa Vessi's wants to know can you share some of

524
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the stories of others in your area that said they

525
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 2>saw the dog men? Thanks for sharing.

526
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:32.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, my brother h A, he had seen it. The

527
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>white one. I believe it was during the daytime. Uh,

528
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and it was further down hire in Nuthia Springs Road,

529
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.880
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know. It might have been a couple

530
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>of miles at most from the house when Hey sen

531
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 1>it and they come back describing what he had seen.

532
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And they didn't didn't really know at the time until

533
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I told him later on what we were looking at.

534
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to him just today. I said, I

535
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know how close it was to you, but I

536
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>got to say a bird's eye view of it. As

537
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>far as the black one, that same son in law

538
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>said that he had seen seen one and I had

539
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 1>seen another one, so we figured there was at least

540
00:40:51.719 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>two of them, and they were probably three hundred or

541
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:12.039
<v Speaker 1>so in different directions from one another when they were saying.

542
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:18.079
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's really all I can I can say

543
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>about that one.

544
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it really does make you wonder how many of

545
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>those things you have in the area.

546
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>It didn't give you time, That's what I'm wondering.

547
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:34.719
<v Speaker 2>It really does. This next question is from Cookies and Cream.

548
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>They want to know what year was this encounter, But

549
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.400
<v Speaker 2>then again, you've had two, so you've already answered that, but.

550
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine was the

551
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.800
<v Speaker 1>first one, twenty fifteen on the black one.

552
00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully those are your only two encounters you're ever going

553
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:03.159
<v Speaker 2>to have, hopefully never gonna have another one. It looks

554
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 2>like Renee Morrikuni wants to know where their face is similar.

555
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, I couldn't tell nothing about the black one because

556
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>they so much hair they face on the first one,

557
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that song gun was just I mean, I've seen pictures

558
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>of wolves, seen them on TV shows and stuff, and

559
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty. This son of a gun was as ugly

560
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>as it could be. Had what I call alligator teeth

561
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>because they overlapped like an alligator's with his mouth shut.

562
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll bet that's the sight you still haven't gotten out

563
00:42:59.519 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of your head.

564
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, And that's one of the pictures I had

565
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 1>shame of one when I was looking. You know, one day,

566
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I shame that same picture of the head of the

567
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 1>one I was looking at, and that's when I knew

568
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 1>that's what I had shamed.

569
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you found out what they were. It's

570
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.480
<v Speaker 2>one thing to have an encounter with them and know

571
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 2>what they are, But if you never find out what

572
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 2>they were that you saw. That just makes it that

573
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>much more difficult. But then again, I think, like I said,

574
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the reasons why you're able to deal

575
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 2>with these encounters so well, is knowing what they are

576
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 2>and or I guess I should say were, and watching

577
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>all these shows about them that you have, so that

578
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of takes off some of the mystery and that

579
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 2>whole mysterious element. That's one of the biggest reasons why

580
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:03.800
<v Speaker 2>witnesses tend to be so traumatized by their encounters. This

581
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>next question is from Miguel Fouriano, and Miguel wants to

582
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>know was it a full moon when you had your encounters.

583
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't recall no full moon when I sang either

584
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:29.119
<v Speaker 1>one of them. I know the black one was you're

585
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in the summer munch when I shen it probably around

586
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 1>this time of the year, going into August maybe.

587
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 2>And.

588
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 1>That, uh, the first one, it was way on up

589
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>in the fall when I shanen it.

590
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I see a lot of people who live out in

591
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 2>the country fairs, they don't have any drapes on their windows. Now,

592
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 2>from talking with you, I got the impression that you

593
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>probably do keep drapes on your windows and keep them

594
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>shut at night time, But that's just a supposition. Do

595
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 2>you keep drapes on your windows and keep them closed

596
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 2>at night?

597
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I got blinds up.

598
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Did you have blinds before you had those encounters? Now?

599
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

600
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.519
<v Speaker 2>After that first encounter, which was a mile away from home.

601
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.400
<v Speaker 2>That's one thing. But when you have one right at

602
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:46.840
<v Speaker 2>the back of your property there, back behind, that's another thing.

603
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 2>When that problem is so close to home, it's at home.

604
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Did you put the blinds up after that first encounter?

605
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>But or did you wait until the second one?

606
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>It was we're in between. It was probably closer to

607
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the second one.

608
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you knew there's one that could be outside

609
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>at any time, that changes things. I get it. Yeah, dude, yes, sir, definitely.

610
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:18.199
<v Speaker 2>It looks like Glenn Kamado wants to know. Did they

611
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 2>have human legs or dog legs?

612
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh? That looked more like on a dog leg to me.

613
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 1>But you're kind of out of shape, you know. The

614
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 1>joints just didn't match like like they would on a dog.

615
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 2>If they didn't match, then what parts of his leg

616
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:54.760
<v Speaker 2>structure were shorter than normal on a dog versus longer

617
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:55.360
<v Speaker 2>than normal?

618
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that's the thing they they Uh, the joint

619
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:08.519
<v Speaker 1>looked looked out of proportion for the for the way

620
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the leg was. It just looked like it was way

621
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>longer than it should have been on both ends of

622
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the joint.

623
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.800
<v Speaker 2>But it just.

624
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 1>The joint just didn't look like it it was supposed

625
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to move the way it moved.

626
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, they just have some strange proportions in general,

627
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 2>so why should I expect the legs to be any different?

628
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 2>This next question for you is from d Truth and

629
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:50.559
<v Speaker 2>D wants to know do you think they're natural creatures? No?

630
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Was nothing nothing near anything natural

631
00:47:58.039 --> 00:47:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I ever seen.

632
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't see how they could be when you

633
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.679
<v Speaker 2>consider all these things that such credible eyewitnesses report seeing

634
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:11.360
<v Speaker 2>them do, such as yourself. So yeah, that makes two

635
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 2>of us. Would you be open and there's no pressure

636
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 2>to do this, but considering that you've had that one

637
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 2>encounter right behind your house, and then your neighbor told

638
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.599
<v Speaker 2>you about seeing that one that was right back there

639
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 2>as well, do you have any interest if I could

640
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:30.599
<v Speaker 2>arrange it at having an investigator come to your property

641
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.239
<v Speaker 2>and come to your area, that is, to look around.

642
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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with it. Okay, I would

643
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 1>like to find out more about possibly, I've got my ideas,

644
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>but where they are actually calling home, not just a

645
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 1>surrounding area, but full place that they hold up.

646
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any Keeves in your area?

647
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if there's any caves close by where

648
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm at. I know back up where I hunted at

649
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 1>in Paulin County. There could postu be a cave or.

650
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Two, because they do seem to like keeves. But then again,

651
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I guess it depends on what the season is and

652
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 2>other things that are going on. Yeah, it just depends. Really,

653
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 2>that's how it normally goes. It just depends. I've got

654
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 2>a question for you from I think the youngest member

655
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 2>in the life chat Kiel of Geats. That question is

656
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>on a scale of one to ten. How pretty was

657
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:51.679
<v Speaker 2>the dog man?

658
00:49:54.599 --> 00:50:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, the black one? Uh, from what I could tell,

659
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I wish they probably an eight. Uh the white one

660
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>they struck out I chose on him.

661
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sounds like you must have been pretty ugly.

662
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yeah, oh.

663
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 2>No, I believe it. It looks like lumin one. Oh

664
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 2>one wants to know what would you have done if

665
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:35.719
<v Speaker 2>you caught it? Although you weren't trying to catch either

666
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.840
<v Speaker 2>one of them. So I don't really understand that question.

667
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:48.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what i'd have done more more uh more,

668
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>just want to get rid of it.

669
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 2>I understand it'd be like the dog cheese in the car.

670
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, it really would.

671
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:01.639
<v Speaker 2>This next one up is from Gail Floriano and Miguel

672
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>wants to know would you like to see one again?

673
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I thought about it. If I knew I could say

674
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>one and uh have the same whether they look or

675
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>what or whatever you want to call it, that I've

676
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 1>had with the lash too, ed wouldn't bother me.

677
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's good. Yeah, if you would have said you

678
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 2>never want to see one of these things again, then

679
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.199
<v Speaker 2>that kind of hints at at a different direction than

680
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:41.880
<v Speaker 2>what we're going The fact that you're open to have

681
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 2>another encounter. That's good, that's really good. That just hammers

682
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>home the fact that you're dealing with all this so well.

683
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>This next question is from Keelub Gates. He has another

684
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 2>question for you and wants to know do you think

685
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 2>they're the result of human and dogs breeding.

686
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:09.920
<v Speaker 1>That is a possibility from what i've some of what

687
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I've seen, or it could be could be some of

688
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that we're not being told by our government.

689
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure that's a long list. It's a lot

690
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:33.360
<v Speaker 2>of things they don't tell us. You can count on that.

691
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 2>This next question is from Sergio and Mesa, and Sergia

692
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:42.679
<v Speaker 2>wants to know what would you say keeps you so

693
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 2>detached from the experiences. Some people's lives are altered in

694
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.079
<v Speaker 2>some way from seeing these monsters.

695
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:57.920
<v Speaker 1>The biggest thing is if something does happen to me,

696
00:52:58.079 --> 00:52:59.079
<v Speaker 1>I know where I'm going.

697
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 2>You're a good man, and that's a good way to

698
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.639
<v Speaker 2>look at it. The truth wants to know, do you

699
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 2>have any photos of any tracks?

700
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:18.239
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't have no photos. The most of the

701
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:25.639
<v Speaker 1>ground here is crash and it's until we have a

702
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:33.039
<v Speaker 1>good rainy shaven uh here in the spring and uh

703
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:36.719
<v Speaker 1>here in the winter, the ground will get all mush.

704
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:41.880
<v Speaker 1>It's it's hard you don't You won't hardly find no tracks.

705
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Without the ground being the right way, you aren't

706
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 2>going to find any tracks. It's funny, Miguel just had

707
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 2>a question that I was about to ask myself. He

708
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 2>wants to know, well, Miguel Floriano, to be thorough, he

709
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:02.119
<v Speaker 2>wants to know after your encounter. Did you see any

710
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:05.039
<v Speaker 2>black SUVs or anything screams around your home?

711
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:08.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't recall any.

712
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean, there's no rhyme nor reason. Sometimes

713
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 2>when it seems like there's a presence, a dog men

714
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>presence in an area, especially where people live, you'll find

715
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 2>SUVs popping up you didn't see before, and other vehicles

716
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 2>popping up that that never were there before. But some

717
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 2>of the times that doesn't happen, even in areas where

718
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:34.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of encounters happened. So there really isn't any

719
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:40.280
<v Speaker 2>rhyme or reason to that. But well, I'm sorry, please continue.

720
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I know.

721
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't really just go out and advertise

722
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>that I had Shane Shane anything to start with. Of course,

723
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what i'd like, I said, what I

724
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:03.440
<v Speaker 1>was looking at a long while, I've kind of gotten

725
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.320
<v Speaker 1>an assumption of about what it might could be, you know,

726
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:13.280
<v Speaker 1>from hearing some talk about it. But until I've seen

727
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 1>that that picture that I've seen with that one, that's

728
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.119
<v Speaker 1>first time I really knew what I was looking at,

729
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't have, you know, I kind of look

730
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 1>at it like, well, since I didn't advertise it, and

731
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't heard nothing. Of course, I don't know if

732
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.800
<v Speaker 1>anybody else had seen it or not at that time

733
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:56.840
<v Speaker 1>when I had that would say anything. If there had

734
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:04.199
<v Speaker 1>been a vehicle like that around, I wouldn't. Probably wouldn't.

735
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.559
<v Speaker 1>I gave it a shacond thought, well.

736
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Some people would, some people wouldn't. But yeah, it sounds

737
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.639
<v Speaker 2>like if you didn't notice anything, there probably wasn't anything there.

738
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 2>There probably weren't any vehicles that showed up, which that's

739
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:21.320
<v Speaker 2>always a good thing. I've got one more question for

740
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:24.679
<v Speaker 2>you before we throw in the towel, and this one's

741
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:29.599
<v Speaker 2>from Danella Eileen Greennick, and that is did you ever

742
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 2>hear any sounds related to them?

743
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I never really heard no sounds. They were pretty well quiet.

744
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>The only thing that I did hear was after that

745
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 1>black one shot towards the backyard and went down, and

746
00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 1>I did hear somebody shooting back over a little later.

747
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I figured that's what they were shooting at. I did

748
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:08.719
<v Speaker 1>hear dogs are going, you know, sounding off back over

749
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:12.079
<v Speaker 1>in that area, but that's all I heard.

750
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.320
<v Speaker 2>It makes you wonder what that was all about, might

751
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 2>have been related to one of these guys, But yeah,

752
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to say all we can do is

753
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:27.559
<v Speaker 2>guess about that. But before we do get out of here,

754
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.239
<v Speaker 2>did I ask you for your closing comments? I've got

755
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:33.159
<v Speaker 2>so much going on here. I apologize.

756
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:44.599
<v Speaker 1>No, you didn't ask, But that's uh main thing I

757
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:50.719
<v Speaker 1>want to do. If learn all I can about them,

758
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, if if I feel like I need too

759
00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>about them, or if I can find out they they're

760
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:10.079
<v Speaker 1>not gonna harm me. Make sure you all I know

761
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:12.320
<v Speaker 1>about finding one. I don't know.

762
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if there's any future in trying

763
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:18.960
<v Speaker 2>to find one of these guys unless you really know

764
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:22.079
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing, and very few people fit into that category.

765
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Trust me on that. But like I told you before, Ferris,

766
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:29.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad that you're dealing with these experiences so well.

767
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Thank goodness for that, because yeah, it can get a

768
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 2>lot worse. It definitely can, and I deal with that

769
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 2>all the time, so we'll just play the glad game.

770
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 2>But having said that, thanks so much for coming on

771
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.760
<v Speaker 2>sharing the details of those experiences with us. I really

772
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it.

773
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks for having me.

774
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're welcome, sir, You are welcome. Well. Having said that,

775
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.400
<v Speaker 2>thanks again so much for your time, and have a

776
00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:01.239
<v Speaker 2>great night. All right, thanks, we'll see well that's it

777
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.000
<v Speaker 2>for another episode of the show. Thanks as always so

778
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 2>much for listening. And if you've had a dog mean

779
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.079
<v Speaker 2>encounter or dog me and encounters plural of your own

780
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and would like to speak with me about it to

781
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>get help dealing with them, or maybe you'd like to

782
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:17.519
<v Speaker 2>just come on the show and share your experience or

783
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 2>experiences with the listeners, please go to dogmandancounters dot com

784
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and submit a report. If you do that, then I'll

785
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>be more than happy to contact you and schedule a

786
00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:30.119
<v Speaker 2>phone com consultation with you so we can have a

787
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.519
<v Speaker 2>good talk about your experience or experiences. But having said that,

788
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:37.960
<v Speaker 2>thanks again as so much as always for listening. I

789
00:59:38.079 --> 01:00:03.599
<v Speaker 2>really appreciate it, and have a great night. A F.