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more than one Dogman encounter, but it's unlike most eyewitnesses.
He's handling his encounters really well. And that's always a
really good thing, of course, but it's a surprise when
I find out that an eyewitness has handled their encounters,
especially more than one encounter. So well, well, let's bring
him in here now so we can find out why
he's dealing with those experiences so well. Tonight's guest is
Ferris Reese. Ferris, Welcome to.
Speaker 1: The show, glad to be here.
Speaker 2: Well, that's great having you here. Feerris, Please give us
a brief bio on yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm Shakespeare, Shakespeare or Old. I'm retired from George Power Company.
I was an electrician for about twelve years. There pretty
much it on that.
Speaker 2: So you worked on the high tension lines.
Speaker 1: Then well, I worked in a powerhouse on all the
different equipment and shy that producers of electricity.
Speaker 2: Wow, you worked on them hot then Yeah, Wow, he
got to be really particular about what you do in
your working life on electricity like that. If you don't,
it will definitely straighten your string. You didn't find out
what it was that you saw until about four or
five years ago. How did you find out what they were?
Speaker 1: Well, I've been watching a lot of these different shows
on a Bigfoot dog Man, and one one night I
was looking and I've seen one that looked exactly like
the one that I had seen, And I told my wife,
I said, that's it, That's what I shang. Before then,
I was just gushing. I didn't really know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts that must have
been going through your head when you finally could put
a name to what it was that you saw those times. Yeah,
I bet you're ready to fall out of your chair.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was up running across the house.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2: Hell that you were understandably so too, considering how you've
had more than one encounter with these guys. Do you
think there's something about you that draws them to you
or do you think it's just dumb luck?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not really sure. I wasn't expecting nothing that
first time. I mean, I was just driving along, but
when I seen it and uh, a few years later
than I say, the other one, I don't. I can't
really say, well that there you know something about it
must be attracting them to me. I don't really know.
Speaker 2: Well, you've had two encounters. If you have a third,
then that almost removes all of doubt that there has
to be something about you. But of course, hopefully that
third one's never going to happ up. And how much
of an effect have your dog mean encounters had in
your life? I know you've dealt with them very well,
but can you point anything in your life and say, okay,
well this is that way because of the dog mean
encounters I had.
Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been out camping like I used to,
but of course that's a lot of ash been because
of either my job or that I had before retired,
and since then I've just had a lot of things
going on. So I do think about that though, that
you know, I might encounter one out there and I don't.
I don't know. I don't know or that it would
be any different. I mean, I did have sheep metal
around me that one time, and I had a shotgun
in my hand the other time. But so I don't
really know. I mean, I'm not really what you say, scared,
but aware.
Speaker 2: Well, as long as you're aware, that's a good thing.
That's always a really good thing. And in most cases
you're going to find that eyewitnesses who weren't traumatized by
their experiences, they can point to this or that and say, Okay,
because of this one factor, because of this one element,
that's why I'm not traumatized by my dog. Mean, an
encounter or encounters as it sometimes happens, like in your case,
from what you just said, do you think if you
didn't have that sheet metal around you that tweet at
Tacoma is what you're talking about when you have the
first encounter, if you didn't have the shotgun with you
when you have the second, do you think you would
have been traumatized by those experiences?
Speaker 1: That's very possible, I know, I you know, well, just
collars of the way things are changing in the world now,
I don't I don't go out without something sunk kind
of weapon. And you know it wasn't just becaus of
the encounters that I've had.
Speaker 2: Well, that's understandable. I mean, there are two legged predators
out there besides dog men that aren't always safe to
be around. So I definitely get it, I really do.
And since you weren't traumatized by your experiences, I don't
want to jump to conclusions here, but since you were
traumatized by them, does that mean that you almost feel
lucky to have had them? Well?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if I feel luckier, I mean,
I'm uh. It was an experience, that's about all I
can say. It was different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's a good way to sum it up. Different.
I know you live out, but do you have a
lot of woods around you or is it mostly farming
land where you don't have a lot of cover for
these things? What kind of area do you live in?
Speaker 1: Well, there is a lot of woods. It is getting
populated around, but there's a lot of wood streame, Pune
and so forth around. I mean, we got sweet Water Creek,
dunk and Vine and they're just ever were around. So
they got plenty of you know, water and places to hide.
Speaker 2: Yes, like a good place for dog me in to
make a living With that in mind, have you warned
any neighbors about these things?
Speaker 1: I've told some people. I had one neighbor that had
seen it didn't know what he had seen, and they
described the very first one that I ever seen, and
it was in his yard, which was at the back
end of my property at the time. So you know,
I've seen it down the road and I've seen it.
It's been Shayen right there with the inseection hundred feet
of my house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely around. Unfortunately, when you're going to bed
at night, again, you're not traumatized by the encounters you've had.
But when you go to bed at night, do thoughts
about these guys? Do they creep into your head a lot?
Or is it something that you don't think about all
that much.
Speaker 1: I just don't think about it that much.
Speaker 2: Well, you're in a good place. You really are, all
right than fears. Please tell us about your encounters. Now,
give us every last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Well, the first one that I seen, I had left
the house, taken a future son in law at the
time back to his grandmother's house where he lived, and
I crossed the tracks, turned onto the road heading towards
Potter Springs and after I crossed the bridge, the next
spot it's lit up real well because of the phone
company setting to the left, and there's a crossing with
a business that's across the tracks to the right. And
when I got up there in the light, here it
come out of nowhere from the tracks, and that he
was a very large I mean, I'm in a toiler
Tacoma truck, four inch left kit mud tires on it,
so that put it on up there good ways. And
I was looking at it right in my eyes over
the hood, and I'm thinking, what in my sin it
wasn't registering. It looked looked almost as big as a
pony as long as the lane that I was in.
It was white, sort of mud color mixed in with
the white stringy hair. I got a real good look
at it because it's well lit up right there, even
at ten o'clock at night. And I never seen nothing.
I used to animals in the woods. I've seen them move,
I know how quick a lot of them can be,
but I've never seen nothing that fast. And of course
the second one, it was jet black. I couldn't even
see the eyes, but it was just as big as
the other one that I'd seen. And I was coming
across the yard from my mother and dad's house and
got it right about property line, and it shot out
from under an oak tree which was grouped down. I
couldn't see it under the tree at all. It was dark.
It shot out from under there and about three bounds.
It was over in the next to the house, back
in the shadows, and I didn't even have time to
raise shotgown up. I didn't hear a thing as big
and heavy as it was. It should have been making
some noise, and it was. If I hadn't have seen
it when it came out from nt of that tree,
I wouldn't even know any thing about it.
Speaker 2: Are you glad that you know that you had at
least one dog men around your property? Or are you
one of those people that would be a lot happier
just not to know, even if it's the truth. There
are a lot of people out there who tell me that, Okay,
even though they were around my property, i'd rather not
know they were there.
Speaker 1: Well, by no one they're there. I know to be
very watchful of them, all right, I'll look make sure
I won't. I don't make a habit of going out
after dark. Of course, my age, I couldn't move that fast, nohow,
So I just have to depend on something to either
slow it down or you know, if it tried to
attack or anything. But so far I've been fortunate on
that haven't had to worry about an attack. I reckon
the closest would have been the last one that I've seen.
If it was going to attack, I figured it would
have done it. Then.
Speaker 2: He has had plenty of opportunities, that's for sure. Now,
do you have any livestock around your property?
Speaker 1: No, I don't. There is over in the next county,
which is just down to the end of the road,
because my property's county line. There is a pasture with
cows in it. That's that's your closest around here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had a lot of animals out there
to tend to and worry about, that would definitely complicate things.
But I'm glad you don't have to worry about that.
Do you have a dog that you keep inside that
you let out at nighttime or.
Speaker 1: Well we had one, Uh, well you just got a
little cat now, so I don't have nothing. Uh you know,
unless the cat can know something's out.
Speaker 2: Is that. I'm sorry to interrupt you there, that's.
Speaker 1: All right, That's the only thing I know. I don't
know if the cat would tell me anything like a
dog would.
Speaker 2: Now, sometimes they do when a dog comes around, they
get that Halloween scaredy cat looks sometimes. So yeah, it
just depends on the care, depends on what the dog
man does. Has anything ever happened where you're sitting in
the house and something just felt off, It just didn't
feel right.
Speaker 1: I've had have something like that. It happened a few times,
but I couldn't put my finger on it and what
it would be other than a possible dog man, But
I can't shape for certain nights for what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best response right there. If you don't know,
it's best to say that you don't know. It's admirable
that you do that because a lot of people if
they hear a branch fall outside after they've had a
sasquatch encounter or a dogman encounter, then automatically it had
to be one. So it's good that you're so levelheaded.
That definitely is a big reason why you're able to
handle this so well, And thank goodness for that. Talking
about nighttime, do you go out at night still or
are you pretty much a shut away after the sun
goes down?
Speaker 1: After the sun goes down unless I just have to
I inside.
Speaker 2: And that's strictly because of the dog men that you
saw on the back of your property.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I try to get everything i'm gonna get
done before it gets dark, and that way I won't
have to worry about going out. But it's not not
just cause of the dog man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have to be out and about
after dark, there's no reason to be, so I get it.
Idal How close was that dog man to you, the
black one at the back of your property when you
saw it at its closest point.
Speaker 1: At the closest point, probably forty to fifty feet.
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Did you ever give you the impression he
knew you were there?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, because when he shot out under that tree,
he had been watching me the whole time. He was
to my left or to my right, and when he
shot out from under there, he went to the left,
heading out towards the house. And then you know, right
between the ditch that I was coming upon and the
and the house, he hit that shadow and they just
blended right in. I never saw him again.
Speaker 2: When you're heading for that ditch, just doing your thing,
moving along, Were you moving straight towards where he was
under that tree or at an angle away from it.
Speaker 1: I was heading towards the house, which would have been
straight in front of me, and the the tree would
have been at the front right corner of the house,
next to the ditch that I was coming to phone.
So he was coming right straight straight in front of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine the thoughts going through his head. He might
have been thinking, Okay, he's coming towards me. I'm about
to have a furious reason encounter. Watch out. You never know.
It's hard to say. You were looking at that first
dog man right over your hood, the hood of your truck.
You said, how close was it at its closest point?
Speaker 1: It was probably between fifty and sixty feet maybe when
they come right out in front of me and look
right over at me. When he as he went by, like, hey,
I'm here and now I'm gone.
Speaker 2: Huh did that one give you the impression that he
wasn't happy about you being there and rolling up on it?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about his impression. I just I'm
sitting there trying to figure out what in the world
am I looking at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts going through your head.
Some dog been in situations like that when you just
get to sit there and watch them move. Some of
them they look really smooth and every movement is planned
and it's just like a symphony. Others they act all
twitchy and their movements are jerky. It's like they haven't
been walking along. It's almost like they're learning how to
walk because they're so unsettled in their movements. How do
you describe by this?
Speaker 1: One was moving, He was moving like he was going
about ninety mile an hours, about the best mission. He
was hollering it when they crossed that road.
Speaker 2: And he looked well coordinated.
Speaker 1: Hey, look he wasn't really coming across like like I
would say a dog would, you know, real smooth and everything.
It looked like he had to put forth a lot
of effort where there's movements because those joints just didn't
look right. They just looked like they didn't want to
do what they really wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really hard to figure out. Some dog men
they just move with so much grease. Like I said,
others looks like they're just struggling to not trip over themselves.
I wonder how that works if it's their proportions. Some
dogmen have proportions that just don't want themselves to moving smoothly.
I don't know what it is, but that's just one
of the strange, quirky things about these guys. Now, you
went from having no dog mean encounters to having one
at the back of your property after you had that
first one and a pretty short amount of time. Do
you think those two encounters were related somehow or they
just happened that way?
Speaker 1: Well, I've often thought about that. I'm not quite sure
about well, that it was like they were playing or what.
But they just I just know what happened, and I
wouldn't expecting really in either one of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never expect to have a dogman encounter until
you have it. That's pretty normal right there. Now, the
black one, the second encounter you had. It came shooting
out from underneath that tree by the corner of your house.
But it's moving away at one hundred miles an hour,
you said. But but did it do anything as it
was running away? They gave the impression that it wasn't
happy snarl at you or look at you with a
nasty look, or did it just keep its head focused
in the direction that was headed.
Speaker 1: He was just focused straight ahead. And the difference between
him and the other one is now hat didn't look
like he had near the problems like that first one dead.
He ain't moved more graceful like.
Speaker 2: Seeing that right there is a perfect example. It's so
hard to understand the black one was graceful. The first
one seemed clumsier or just kind of out of sorts.
Did their body proportions look that different that that might
be an explanation, or did they have pretty much the
same kind of proportions Maybe they were just different sizes.
Speaker 1: Well, the black one looked like he was could have
been a little heavier set. He definitely had longer fur
on him. The other one looked like he had more
of a short short hair than than long. The longest
hair that the first one had was around his head
and the tail on the black one he was I
couldn't really tell the actual size of him because he
looked like he had so much hair.
Speaker 2: That's another thing that's so hard for me to wrap
my mind around. These guys are so many different looks.
It's hard to know what to expect when it comes
to what a dog man's going to look. Like, if
you have an encounter. Speaking of that, how would you
describe their tails? Did their tails look disproportionately long compared
to their body sizes? Or do you look stubby or
pretty normal length?
Speaker 1: Well, as far as that first one, they looked like
he had a fairly long tail. That second one they
weren't by so fast. I didn't really I didn't really
see the tale he was going so fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like he was trying to break some wind
speed records. Mm hmm, Yeah, sounds like he was. You've
heard about them being seen by quite a few people
in North Georgia from what I understand. How do you
find out about those encounters?
Speaker 1: Well, I've slain, I've seen a lot of that on YouTube,
on a lot of those shows. And then when I
was looking on your site, I found the map that
was showing the different counties and telling them about how
many encounters had been reported, you know, in different parts
of the state. And it don't surprise me about North Georgia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got a lot of wild country there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I've heard about around over here
in Cherokee County, Floyd County, Alden County, and uh, that's
all right here where I'm at at copp County in Douglas,
Dave Lash had anywhere from one Haulden County nine. Two
of them was right here, was in a mile and
a high from the house at Auburn, Hiram and Polden County.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look at how that land is in
northern Georgia, it's hard to think of a better place
for them to live. I mean, they've got all the
resources they could want, plenty of room to roam without
being seen if they don't want to be seen. I mean,
you could have an army of dog men in there,
and if they didn't want to be known about, no
one would ever be the wiser.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Well, before I go on, if you have any questions
you want me to ask Ferris, please type them in
all caps if you're in the live chat. That way
I won't miss them, p least hopefully. Okay, your wife
knows about your encounters fears, But what does she think
about all this? I mean, she went from one moment
not hearing anything about dog men to the next moment
her husband's telling her about this dog man encounter that
he had on the way home in his truck one night.
I'm sure you told her right after you had that
first one. Does she seem to believe you? And what
does she seem to think about all this?
Speaker 1: Well? I think she believes may she just to start with,
so we hadn't been married but going on five years now,
so a lot of this happened before man her got married.
But I told her about it and she kind of
looked at me kind of like, I don't know about that.
Now she's she's heard enough and sane enough that, you know,
from some of these shows and what I've told her,
I'm pretty sure she believes every word of it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's really good. Yeah, anytime you have support like that.
It's not like you need the support it because you're
not traumatized. But when your significant other is right there
with you and they're not making fun of you and
they believe you, I mean, that's about as good as
it gets. It really is.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: From some of the things that you said, it sounds
like you watch your fear of share of cryptid shows
with that in mind. Now you've had these two Dogman encounters.
Are you looking for dog me in shows to watch
on TV? Or do you focus more on Bigfoot? And
if you come across what looks to be a good
dog mean show, you'll happen to tune that on. But otherwise,
is it no big deal? And is it nothing that
you necessarily look.
Speaker 1: Were turning on? I watched several of them today, dog
Man and Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you have a dog man encounter or a
sasquatch encounter, it really sets a hook in you in
most cases, and you can't get enough info about them,
So that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to learn all I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable. You go one moment for not knowing
these things existed all of a sudden, having an encounter
with one, It's only natural that you want some answers
and some explanations. So that definitely fits. Well. Let's get
to some of the questions from the people in the
live chat now. The first one up is from Donella
Eileen Grennick and Donella wants to know or Donna Huff
I'm sorry, do you think these two dog men were meats?
I don't remember if you already said that or not.
Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they were. I never seen him
hang together. I did have somebody that was saying that
they had seen two of the black ones. They may
have been mates. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard to see about that. All we
can do is guess. Yeah, yeah, that's all you can do.
The next question up is from Miguel Floriano, and Miguel
wants to know did your heart start racing when you
saw it? I think he's asking about the second one
or was it a casual Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Now the shaken one. Yeah, my heart was kind of racing.
They just kind of caught me off guard because I
wasn't expecting that to come out from my that tree,
I mean, and I was looking, I had full view
of the front yard, and all of a sudden, there
it came.
Speaker 2: I apologize if you already answered this question, But what
time do you say it was when you had that
second account with a black one?
Speaker 1: It was probably around ten ten thirty, that same as
the first one.
Speaker 2: So it's good and dark. Yeah, that makes even more frightening.
But then again, like I said, you're not traumatized, Thank
goodness to that.
Speaker 1: I didn't seem to affect me like that. Of course
that could have been too because to start with, I
really didn't know what I was looking at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I'm sorry after that.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't been so long in between. It
just it well, it happened, you know.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm so glad you're able to take this and
stride the way you have. Some people could have those
exact encounters and they'd be ready to jump off of
a bridge. So yeah, thank goodness you're taking this so well.
The next question for you is from d Truth and
d wants to know what height and weight would yes
to meet in the eye color?
Speaker 1: Well, the eye color on a white one, it looked
sort of a brownish orange. I didn't see no glowing
from it like I've heard of some. The black one,
I couldn't even shay the eyes. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you only can see what you saw. Yeah, can't
be faulded for that. This next question up is from
Christina Easterday, and Christina wants to know thank you for sharing.
Did you smell anything and did it go quiet right
before you saw them?
Speaker 1: Well? I wasn't really paying much attention at the time
to how quiet it was, but I didn't smell nothing
that much. I do know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of those things where sometimes I witness
to smell something, other times they don't. This next question
for you is from Cookies and Cream. Oh man, that
sounds good. They want to know what year did these
two encounters happen?
Speaker 1: All right, The first one was between two thousand and eight,
two thousand and nine, and then last encounter that I
had with the black one was like two thy fifteen,
so a little while ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has been some time.
Speaker 1: But damn, that neighbor that I was talking about about
two years ago, they've seen it behind the house about
Shirk Shaunner fake from my house, right in his yard.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that means for at least a certain period
of time it was hanging around. And I wonder why
that was. I wonder if it was drawn to you
or something else. Then again, if it came shooting up
from underneath that tree on the corner of your house
when you're walking towards it, then maybe not. It's just
so hard to think for these things. It really is this.
Speaker 1: Well, that was the first one that I've seen, is
the one that hain't described that they shane two years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh, the first one. Okay, I missed that.
Speaker 1: Wow, I have brained the black one shance that night.
But the white one's been saying, and a couple of
different places other than where I've seen it.
Speaker 2: Well, that first one when you said you're heading towards
outer Springs and saw it, how far were you from
home at the time, I was.
Speaker 1: Maybe a mile.
Speaker 2: Oh close? Then okay, yeah, that explains it.
Speaker 1: This next yeah, right there to the left, just before
you get to the to where the phone companies at,
there's a pond setting right there, and there's a stream
that I had to cross to go by the pond
to where he went. I don't know where that what
Once they crossed to where that phone company was, where
they took to the left towards the pond or to
the right to the parking lot. I lost sight of
him after that.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you did a good job. Notice what
you did about these two guys. When you have these encounters,
you deserve a lot of credit. Most people wouldn't have
noticed what you did, so that's a good thing. Kiko,
I'm going to butcher his last name, Kiko Villa VSI's
Villa Vessi's wants to know can you share some of
the stories of others in your area that said they
saw the dog men? Thanks for sharing.
Speaker 1: Well, my brother h A, he had seen it. The
white one. I believe it was during the daytime. Uh,
and it was further down hire in Nuthia Springs Road,
which I don't know. It might have been a couple
of miles at most from the house when Hey sen
it and they come back describing what he had seen.
And they didn't didn't really know at the time until
I told him later on what we were looking at.
I was talking to him just today. I said, I
don't know how close it was to you, but I
got to say a bird's eye view of it. As
far as the black one, that same son in law
said that he had seen seen one and I had
seen another one, so we figured there was at least
two of them, and they were probably three hundred or
so in different directions from one another when they were saying.
So that's that's really all I can I can say
about that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does make you wonder how many of
those things you have in the area.
Speaker 1: It didn't give you time, That's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: It really does. This next question is from Cookies and Cream.
They want to know what year was this encounter, But
then again, you've had two, so you've already answered that, but.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine was the
first one, twenty fifteen on the black one.
Speaker 2: Hopefully those are your only two encounters you're ever going
to have, hopefully never gonna have another one. It looks
like Renee Morrikuni wants to know where their face is similar.
Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't tell nothing about the black one because
they so much hair they face on the first one,
that song gun was just I mean, I've seen pictures
of wolves, seen them on TV shows and stuff, and
they're pretty. This son of a gun was as ugly
as it could be. Had what I call alligator teeth
because they overlapped like an alligator's with his mouth shut.
Speaker 2: I'll bet that's the sight you still haven't gotten out
of your head.
Speaker 1: Oh no, And that's one of the pictures I had
shame of one when I was looking. You know, one day,
I shame that same picture of the head of the
one I was looking at, and that's when I knew
that's what I had shamed.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you found out what they were. It's
one thing to have an encounter with them and know
what they are, But if you never find out what
they were that you saw. That just makes it that
much more difficult. But then again, I think, like I said,
that's one of the reasons why you're able to deal
with these encounters so well, is knowing what they are
and or I guess I should say were, and watching
all these shows about them that you have, so that
kind of takes off some of the mystery and that
whole mysterious element. That's one of the biggest reasons why
witnesses tend to be so traumatized by their encounters. This
next question is from Miguel Fouriano, and Miguel wants to
know was it a full moon when you had your encounters.
Speaker 1: I don't recall no full moon when I sang either
one of them. I know the black one was you're
in the summer munch when I shen it probably around
this time of the year, going into August maybe.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: That, uh, the first one, it was way on up
in the fall when I shanen it.
Speaker 2: I see a lot of people who live out in
the country fairs, they don't have any drapes on their windows. Now,
from talking with you, I got the impression that you
probably do keep drapes on your windows and keep them
shut at night time, But that's just a supposition. Do
you keep drapes on your windows and keep them closed
at night?
Speaker 1: I got blinds up.
Speaker 2: Did you have blinds before you had those encounters? Now?
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: After that first encounter, which was a mile away from home.
That's one thing. But when you have one right at
the back of your property there, back behind, that's another thing.
When that problem is so close to home, it's at home.
Did you put the blinds up after that first encounter?
But or did you wait until the second one?
Speaker 1: It was we're in between. It was probably closer to
the second one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you knew there's one that could be outside
at any time, that changes things. I get it. Yeah, dude, yes, sir, definitely.
It looks like Glenn Kamado wants to know. Did they
have human legs or dog legs?
Speaker 1: Uh? That looked more like on a dog leg to me.
But you're kind of out of shape, you know. The
joints just didn't match like like they would on a dog.
Speaker 2: If they didn't match, then what parts of his leg
structure were shorter than normal on a dog versus longer
than normal?
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the thing they they Uh, the joint
looked looked out of proportion for the for the way
the leg was. It just looked like it was way
longer than it should have been on both ends of
the joint.
Speaker 2: But it just.
Speaker 1: The joint just didn't look like it it was supposed
to move the way it moved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they just have some strange proportions in general,
so why should I expect the legs to be any different?
This next question for you is from d Truth and
D wants to know do you think they're natural creatures? No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Was nothing nothing near anything natural
I ever seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see how they could be when you
consider all these things that such credible eyewitnesses report seeing
them do, such as yourself. So yeah, that makes two
of us. Would you be open and there's no pressure
to do this, but considering that you've had that one
encounter right behind your house, and then your neighbor told
you about seeing that one that was right back there
as well, do you have any interest if I could
arrange it at having an investigator come to your property
and come to your area, that is, to look around.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. Okay, I would
like to find out more about possibly, I've got my ideas,
but where they are actually calling home, not just a
surrounding area, but full place that they hold up.
Speaker 2: Do you have any Keeves in your area?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's any caves close by where
I'm at. I know back up where I hunted at
in Paulin County. There could postu be a cave or.
Speaker 2: Two, because they do seem to like keeves. But then again,
I guess it depends on what the season is and
other things that are going on. Yeah, it just depends. Really,
that's how it normally goes. It just depends. I've got
a question for you from I think the youngest member
in the life chat Kiel of Geats. That question is
on a scale of one to ten. How pretty was
the dog man?
Speaker 1: Well, the black one? Uh, from what I could tell,
I wish they probably an eight. Uh the white one
they struck out I chose on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like you must have been pretty ugly.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: No, I believe it. It looks like lumin one. Oh
one wants to know what would you have done if
you caught it? Although you weren't trying to catch either
one of them. So I don't really understand that question.
Speaker 1: I don't know what i'd have done more more uh more,
just want to get rid of it.
Speaker 2: I understand it'd be like the dog cheese in the car.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, it really would.
Speaker 2: This next one up is from Gail Floriano and Miguel
wants to know would you like to see one again?
Speaker 1: I thought about it. If I knew I could say
one and uh have the same whether they look or
what or whatever you want to call it, that I've
had with the lash too, ed wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good. Yeah, if you would have said you
never want to see one of these things again, then
that kind of hints at at a different direction than
what we're going The fact that you're open to have
another encounter. That's good, that's really good. That just hammers
home the fact that you're dealing with all this so well.
This next question is from Keelub Gates. He has another
question for you and wants to know do you think
they're the result of human and dogs breeding.
Speaker 1: That is a possibility from what i've some of what
I've seen, or it could be could be some of
the stuff that we're not being told by our government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's a long list. It's a lot
of things they don't tell us. You can count on that.
This next question is from Sergio and Mesa, and Sergia
wants to know what would you say keeps you so
detached from the experiences. Some people's lives are altered in
some way from seeing these monsters.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing is if something does happen to me,
I know where I'm going.
Speaker 2: You're a good man, and that's a good way to
look at it. The truth wants to know, do you
have any photos of any tracks?
Speaker 1: No, I don't have no photos. The most of the
ground here is crash and it's until we have a
good rainy shaven uh here in the spring and uh
here in the winter, the ground will get all mush.
It's it's hard you don't You won't hardly find no tracks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Without the ground being the right way, you aren't
going to find any tracks. It's funny, Miguel just had
a question that I was about to ask myself. He
wants to know, well, Miguel Floriano, to be thorough, he
wants to know after your encounter. Did you see any
black SUVs or anything screams around your home?
Speaker 1: I didn't recall any.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, there's no rhyme nor reason. Sometimes
when it seems like there's a presence, a dog men
presence in an area, especially where people live, you'll find
SUVs popping up you didn't see before, and other vehicles
popping up that that never were there before. But some
of the times that doesn't happen, even in areas where
a lot of encounters happened. So there really isn't any
rhyme or reason to that. But well, I'm sorry, please continue.
I know.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really just go out and advertise
that I had Shane Shane anything to start with. Of course,
I didn't know what i'd like, I said, what I
was looking at a long while, I've kind of gotten
an assumption of about what it might could be, you know,
from hearing some talk about it. But until I've seen
that that picture that I've seen with that one, that's
first time I really knew what I was looking at,
and I wouldn't have, you know, I kind of look
at it like, well, since I didn't advertise it, and
I hadn't heard nothing. Of course, I don't know if
anybody else had seen it or not at that time
when I had that would say anything. If there had
been a vehicle like that around, I wouldn't. Probably wouldn't.
I gave it a shacond thought, well.
Speaker 2: Some people would, some people wouldn't. But yeah, it sounds
like if you didn't notice anything, there probably wasn't anything there.
There probably weren't any vehicles that showed up, which that's
always a good thing. I've got one more question for
you before we throw in the towel, and this one's
from Danella Eileen Greennick, and that is did you ever
hear any sounds related to them?
Speaker 1: I never really heard no sounds. They were pretty well quiet.
The only thing that I did hear was after that
black one shot towards the backyard and went down, and
I did hear somebody shooting back over a little later.
I figured that's what they were shooting at. I did
hear dogs are going, you know, sounding off back over
in that area, but that's all I heard.
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder what that was all about, might
have been related to one of these guys, But yeah,
it's really hard to say all we can do is
guess about that. But before we do get out of here,
did I ask you for your closing comments? I've got
so much going on here. I apologize.
Speaker 1: No, you didn't ask, But that's uh main thing I
want to do. If learn all I can about them,
you know, if if I feel like I need too
about them, or if I can find out they they're
not gonna harm me. Make sure you all I know
about finding one. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if there's any future in trying
to find one of these guys unless you really know
what you're doing, and very few people fit into that category.
Trust me on that. But like I told you before, Ferris,
I'm so glad that you're dealing with these experiences so well.
Thank goodness for that, because yeah, it can get a
lot worse. It definitely can, and I deal with that
all the time, so we'll just play the glad game.
But having said that, thanks so much for coming on
sharing the details of those experiences with us. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome, sir, You are welcome. Well. Having said that,
thanks again so much for your time, and have a
great night. All right, thanks, we'll see well that's it
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