1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:19,559 Speaker 1: At a. 2 00:00:28,600 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: Book. If you'd like to be able to listen to 3 00:01:28,879 --> 00:01:31,959 the show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 4 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:35,599 that's an option. To find out how, please go to 5 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:42,439 Dogmanencounters dot com forward Slash podcast. Tonight's guest has had 6 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,640 more than one Dogman encounter, but it's unlike most eyewitnesses. 7 00:01:47,159 --> 00:01:50,239 He's handling his encounters really well. And that's always a 8 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 really good thing, of course, but it's a surprise when 9 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,599 I find out that an eyewitness has handled their encounters, 10 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,519 especially more than one encounter. So well, well, let's bring 11 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,599 him in here now so we can find out why 12 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:06,200 he's dealing with those experiences so well. Tonight's guest is 13 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:08,560 Ferris Reese. Ferris, Welcome to. 14 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: The show, glad to be here. 15 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: Well, that's great having you here. Feerris, Please give us 16 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,319 a brief bio on yourself. 17 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: I'm Shakespeare, Shakespeare or Old. I'm retired from George Power Company. 18 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:41,199 I was an electrician for about twelve years. There pretty 19 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,039 much it on that. 20 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,879 Speaker 2: So you worked on the high tension lines. 21 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: Then well, I worked in a powerhouse on all the 22 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,520 different equipment and shy that producers of electricity. 23 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,759 Speaker 2: Wow, you worked on them hot then Yeah, Wow, he 24 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,560 got to be really particular about what you do in 25 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,240 your working life on electricity like that. If you don't, 26 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,759 it will definitely straighten your string. You didn't find out 27 00:03:09,759 --> 00:03:11,919 what it was that you saw until about four or 28 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,319 five years ago. How did you find out what they were? 29 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:19,719 Speaker 1: Well, I've been watching a lot of these different shows 30 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:28,319 on a Bigfoot dog Man, and one one night I 31 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:32,319 was looking and I've seen one that looked exactly like 32 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,360 the one that I had seen, And I told my wife, 33 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:42,800 I said, that's it, That's what I shang. Before then, 34 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:45,400 I was just gushing. I didn't really know. 35 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts that must have 36 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:52,080 been going through your head when you finally could put 37 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,960 a name to what it was that you saw those times. Yeah, 38 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,400 I bet you're ready to fall out of your chair. 39 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,919 Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was up running across the house. 40 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,039 It's just amazing. 41 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,439 Speaker 2: Hell that you were understandably so too, considering how you've 42 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:12,319 had more than one encounter with these guys. Do you 43 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,000 think there's something about you that draws them to you 44 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,920 or do you think it's just dumb luck? 45 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,959 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not really sure. I wasn't expecting nothing that 46 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,360 first time. I mean, I was just driving along, but 47 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:33,040 when I seen it and uh, a few years later 48 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:39,600 than I say, the other one, I don't. I can't 49 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,199 really say, well that there you know something about it 50 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,720 must be attracting them to me. I don't really know. 51 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: Well, you've had two encounters. If you have a third, 52 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,680 then that almost removes all of doubt that there has 53 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,879 to be something about you. But of course, hopefully that 54 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,759 third one's never going to happ up. And how much 55 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,959 of an effect have your dog mean encounters had in 56 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,120 your life? I know you've dealt with them very well, 57 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:09,279 but can you point anything in your life and say, okay, 58 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,160 well this is that way because of the dog mean 59 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,120 encounters I had. 60 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:21,959 Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been out camping like I used to, 61 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,439 but of course that's a lot of ash been because 62 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,600 of either my job or that I had before retired, 63 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,800 and since then I've just had a lot of things 64 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:41,839 going on. So I do think about that though, that 65 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,399 you know, I might encounter one out there and I don't. 66 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,079 I don't know. I don't know or that it would 67 00:05:51,399 --> 00:05:56,160 be any different. I mean, I did have sheep metal 68 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,399 around me that one time, and I had a shotgun 69 00:05:58,439 --> 00:06:04,360 in my hand the other time. But so I don't 70 00:06:04,399 --> 00:06:10,439 really know. I mean, I'm not really what you say, scared, 71 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:11,879 but aware. 72 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: Well, as long as you're aware, that's a good thing. 73 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,600 That's always a really good thing. And in most cases 74 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,079 you're going to find that eyewitnesses who weren't traumatized by 75 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:27,079 their experiences, they can point to this or that and say, Okay, 76 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,199 because of this one factor, because of this one element, 77 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,000 that's why I'm not traumatized by my dog. Mean, an 78 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,439 encounter or encounters as it sometimes happens, like in your case, 79 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,720 from what you just said, do you think if you 80 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:43,040 didn't have that sheet metal around you that tweet at 81 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,360 Tacoma is what you're talking about when you have the 82 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,879 first encounter, if you didn't have the shotgun with you 83 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,240 when you have the second, do you think you would 84 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,240 have been traumatized by those experiences? 85 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: That's very possible, I know, I you know, well, just 86 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,959 collars of the way things are changing in the world now, 87 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:11,639 I don't I don't go out without something sunk kind 88 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:20,079 of weapon. And you know it wasn't just becaus of 89 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,639 the encounters that I've had. 90 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:28,839 Speaker 2: Well, that's understandable. I mean, there are two legged predators 91 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:32,040 out there besides dog men that aren't always safe to 92 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,800 be around. So I definitely get it, I really do. 93 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,959 And since you weren't traumatized by your experiences, I don't 94 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:43,160 want to jump to conclusions here, but since you were 95 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,720 traumatized by them, does that mean that you almost feel 96 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,600 lucky to have had them? Well? 97 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:57,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, but if I feel luckier, I mean, 98 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:04,560 I'm uh. It was an experience, that's about all I 99 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,480 can say. It was different. 100 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's a good way to sum it up. Different. 101 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,120 I know you live out, but do you have a 102 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,839 lot of woods around you or is it mostly farming 103 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,079 land where you don't have a lot of cover for 104 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,040 these things? What kind of area do you live in? 105 00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: Well, there is a lot of woods. It is getting 106 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:38,919 populated around, but there's a lot of wood streame, Pune 107 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,960 and so forth around. I mean, we got sweet Water Creek, 108 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:52,279 dunk and Vine and they're just ever were around. So 109 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:59,240 they got plenty of you know, water and places to hide. 110 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,519 Speaker 2: Yes, like a good place for dog me in to 111 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,480 make a living With that in mind, have you warned 112 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:06,720 any neighbors about these things? 113 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: I've told some people. I had one neighbor that had 114 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,879 seen it didn't know what he had seen, and they 115 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:20,840 described the very first one that I ever seen, and 116 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:26,639 it was in his yard, which was at the back 117 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:33,600 end of my property at the time. So you know, 118 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,039 I've seen it down the road and I've seen it. 119 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:42,559 It's been Shayen right there with the inseection hundred feet 120 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:43,200 of my house. 121 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely around. Unfortunately, when you're going to bed 122 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,240 at night, again, you're not traumatized by the encounters you've had. 123 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,440 But when you go to bed at night, do thoughts 124 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,240 about these guys? Do they creep into your head a lot? 125 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,559 Or is it something that you don't think about all 126 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,000 that much. 127 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,879 Speaker 1: I just don't think about it that much. 128 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,159 Speaker 2: Well, you're in a good place. You really are, all 129 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:13,919 right than fears. Please tell us about your encounters. Now, 130 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,080 give us every last detail that comes to mind. 131 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:24,159 Speaker 1: Well, the first one that I seen, I had left 132 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:29,080 the house, taken a future son in law at the 133 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:36,840 time back to his grandmother's house where he lived, and 134 00:10:39,799 --> 00:10:42,879 I crossed the tracks, turned onto the road heading towards 135 00:10:42,879 --> 00:10:47,799 Potter Springs and after I crossed the bridge, the next 136 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,519 spot it's lit up real well because of the phone 137 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:58,799 company setting to the left, and there's a crossing with 138 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:04,840 a business that's across the tracks to the right. And 139 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:08,879 when I got up there in the light, here it 140 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:14,840 come out of nowhere from the tracks, and that he 141 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:23,559 was a very large I mean, I'm in a toiler 142 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,799 Tacoma truck, four inch left kit mud tires on it, 143 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,600 so that put it on up there good ways. And 144 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:40,360 I was looking at it right in my eyes over 145 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:48,840 the hood, and I'm thinking, what in my sin it 146 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:55,000 wasn't registering. It looked looked almost as big as a 147 00:11:55,039 --> 00:11:59,879 pony as long as the lane that I was in. 148 00:12:04,759 --> 00:12:09,159 It was white, sort of mud color mixed in with 149 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:17,200 the white stringy hair. I got a real good look 150 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,960 at it because it's well lit up right there, even 151 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:30,480 at ten o'clock at night. And I never seen nothing. 152 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,000 I used to animals in the woods. I've seen them move, 153 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,600 I know how quick a lot of them can be, 154 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:45,120 but I've never seen nothing that fast. And of course 155 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:55,200 the second one, it was jet black. I couldn't even 156 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,559 see the eyes, but it was just as big as 157 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:05,919 the other one that I'd seen. And I was coming 158 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,720 across the yard from my mother and dad's house and 159 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,720 got it right about property line, and it shot out 160 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,799 from under an oak tree which was grouped down. I 161 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:26,519 couldn't see it under the tree at all. It was dark. 162 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,080 It shot out from under there and about three bounds. 163 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,399 It was over in the next to the house, back 164 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,399 in the shadows, and I didn't even have time to 165 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:48,759 raise shotgown up. I didn't hear a thing as big 166 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:51,679 and heavy as it was. It should have been making 167 00:13:51,799 --> 00:13:56,639 some noise, and it was. If I hadn't have seen 168 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,399 it when it came out from nt of that tree, 169 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,879 I wouldn't even know any thing about it. 170 00:14:08,279 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: Are you glad that you know that you had at 171 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,240 least one dog men around your property? Or are you 172 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:15,720 one of those people that would be a lot happier 173 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:18,799 just not to know, even if it's the truth. There 174 00:14:18,799 --> 00:14:21,799 are a lot of people out there who tell me that, Okay, 175 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,519 even though they were around my property, i'd rather not 176 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,279 know they were there. 177 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Well, by no one they're there. I know to be 178 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:40,399 very watchful of them, all right, I'll look make sure 179 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,840 I won't. I don't make a habit of going out 180 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:51,559 after dark. Of course, my age, I couldn't move that fast, nohow, 181 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:58,960 So I just have to depend on something to either 182 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:03,519 slow it down or you know, if it tried to 183 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:07,639 attack or anything. But so far I've been fortunate on 184 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:16,200 that haven't had to worry about an attack. I reckon 185 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,879 the closest would have been the last one that I've seen. 186 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,759 If it was going to attack, I figured it would 187 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:23,440 have done it. Then. 188 00:15:27,159 --> 00:15:30,879 Speaker 2: He has had plenty of opportunities, that's for sure. Now, 189 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,600 do you have any livestock around your property? 190 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:41,519 Speaker 1: No, I don't. There is over in the next county, 191 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:46,480 which is just down to the end of the road, 192 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:55,240 because my property's county line. There is a pasture with 193 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:02,960 cows in it. That's that's your closest around here. 194 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had a lot of animals out there 195 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:10,279 to tend to and worry about, that would definitely complicate things. 196 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,720 But I'm glad you don't have to worry about that. 197 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,919 Do you have a dog that you keep inside that 198 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,480 you let out at nighttime or. 199 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,559 Speaker 1: Well we had one, Uh, well you just got a 200 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:30,320 little cat now, so I don't have nothing. Uh you know, 201 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:35,080 unless the cat can know something's out. 202 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: Is that. I'm sorry to interrupt you there, that's. 203 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: All right, That's the only thing I know. I don't 204 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,159 know if the cat would tell me anything like a 205 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:50,879 dog would. 206 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,039 Speaker 2: Now, sometimes they do when a dog comes around, they 207 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,120 get that Halloween scaredy cat looks sometimes. So yeah, it 208 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:01,639 just depends on the care, depends on what the dog 209 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,039 man does. Has anything ever happened where you're sitting in 210 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:08,960 the house and something just felt off, It just didn't 211 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,440 feel right. 212 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,559 Speaker 1: I've had have something like that. It happened a few times, 213 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:21,680 but I couldn't put my finger on it and what 214 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:27,079 it would be other than a possible dog man, But 215 00:17:28,279 --> 00:17:30,359 I can't shape for certain nights for what it was. 216 00:17:32,079 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best response right there. If you don't know, 217 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,400 it's best to say that you don't know. It's admirable 218 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,960 that you do that because a lot of people if 219 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,160 they hear a branch fall outside after they've had a 220 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,119 sasquatch encounter or a dogman encounter, then automatically it had 221 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,359 to be one. So it's good that you're so levelheaded. 222 00:17:49,519 --> 00:17:52,519 That definitely is a big reason why you're able to 223 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:56,200 handle this so well, And thank goodness for that. Talking 224 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,559 about nighttime, do you go out at night still or 225 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,400 are you pretty much a shut away after the sun 226 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:02,960 goes down? 227 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,279 Speaker 1: After the sun goes down unless I just have to 228 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,559 I inside. 229 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: And that's strictly because of the dog men that you 230 00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:16,079 saw on the back of your property. 231 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Well, no, I try to get everything i'm gonna get 232 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,599 done before it gets dark, and that way I won't 233 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:31,680 have to worry about going out. But it's not not 234 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,279 just cause of the dog man. 235 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have to be out and about 236 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,200 after dark, there's no reason to be, so I get it. 237 00:18:40,279 --> 00:18:43,440 Idal How close was that dog man to you, the 238 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,720 black one at the back of your property when you 239 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:47,680 saw it at its closest point. 240 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: At the closest point, probably forty to fifty feet. 241 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: Oh wow? Did you ever give you the impression he 242 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,079 knew you were there? 243 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, because when he shot out under that tree, 244 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,920 he had been watching me the whole time. He was 245 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,559 to my left or to my right, and when he 246 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,680 shot out from under there, he went to the left, 247 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,680 heading out towards the house. And then you know, right 248 00:19:18,759 --> 00:19:24,640 between the ditch that I was coming upon and the 249 00:19:24,759 --> 00:19:27,559 and the house, he hit that shadow and they just 250 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:29,799 blended right in. I never saw him again. 251 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: When you're heading for that ditch, just doing your thing, 252 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,960 moving along, Were you moving straight towards where he was 253 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:41,000 under that tree or at an angle away from it. 254 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: I was heading towards the house, which would have been 255 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:53,000 straight in front of me, and the the tree would 256 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:57,480 have been at the front right corner of the house, 257 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,880 next to the ditch that I was coming to phone. 258 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,200 So he was coming right straight straight in front of me. 259 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:11,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine the thoughts going through his head. He might 260 00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:13,799 have been thinking, Okay, he's coming towards me. I'm about 261 00:20:13,839 --> 00:20:19,279 to have a furious reason encounter. Watch out. You never know. 262 00:20:19,759 --> 00:20:23,039 It's hard to say. You were looking at that first 263 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:25,480 dog man right over your hood, the hood of your truck. 264 00:20:25,519 --> 00:20:28,680 You said, how close was it at its closest point? 265 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: It was probably between fifty and sixty feet maybe when 266 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,519 they come right out in front of me and look 267 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,359 right over at me. When he as he went by, like, hey, 268 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,400 I'm here and now I'm gone. 269 00:20:53,759 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: Huh did that one give you the impression that he 270 00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:59,599 wasn't happy about you being there and rolling up on it? 271 00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:06,519 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about his impression. I just I'm 272 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,920 sitting there trying to figure out what in the world 273 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,799 am I looking at. 274 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:15,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine the thoughts going through your head. 275 00:21:16,599 --> 00:21:19,160 Some dog been in situations like that when you just 276 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,119 get to sit there and watch them move. Some of 277 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,079 them they look really smooth and every movement is planned 278 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:32,759 and it's just like a symphony. Others they act all 279 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:36,079 twitchy and their movements are jerky. It's like they haven't 280 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,160 been walking along. It's almost like they're learning how to 281 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,200 walk because they're so unsettled in their movements. How do 282 00:21:43,279 --> 00:21:44,119 you describe by this? 283 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,839 Speaker 1: One was moving, He was moving like he was going 284 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,559 about ninety mile an hours, about the best mission. He 285 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:56,039 was hollering it when they crossed that road. 286 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: And he looked well coordinated. 287 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: Hey, look he wasn't really coming across like like I 288 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:14,559 would say a dog would, you know, real smooth and everything. 289 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,039 It looked like he had to put forth a lot 290 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:26,039 of effort where there's movements because those joints just didn't 291 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,400 look right. They just looked like they didn't want to 292 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,640 do what they really wanted to do. 293 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really hard to figure out. Some dog men 294 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,440 they just move with so much grease. Like I said, 295 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:46,319 others looks like they're just struggling to not trip over themselves. 296 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,519 I wonder how that works if it's their proportions. Some 297 00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:55,079 dogmen have proportions that just don't want themselves to moving smoothly. 298 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,599 I don't know what it is, but that's just one 299 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,720 of the strange, quirky things about these guys. Now, you 300 00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:04,400 went from having no dog mean encounters to having one 301 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,759 at the back of your property after you had that 302 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,960 first one and a pretty short amount of time. Do 303 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,680 you think those two encounters were related somehow or they 304 00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:15,119 just happened that way? 305 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: Well, I've often thought about that. I'm not quite sure 306 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:29,000 about well, that it was like they were playing or what. 307 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:38,279 But they just I just know what happened, and I 308 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:42,880 wouldn't expecting really in either one of them. 309 00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you never expect to have a dogman encounter until 310 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,319 you have it. That's pretty normal right there. Now, the 311 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,240 black one, the second encounter you had. It came shooting 312 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720 out from underneath that tree by the corner of your house. 313 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,680 But it's moving away at one hundred miles an hour, 314 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,359 you said. But but did it do anything as it 315 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,880 was running away? They gave the impression that it wasn't 316 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,319 happy snarl at you or look at you with a 317 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,799 nasty look, or did it just keep its head focused 318 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:13,000 in the direction that was headed. 319 00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: He was just focused straight ahead. And the difference between 320 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,400 him and the other one is now hat didn't look 321 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,240 like he had near the problems like that first one dead. 322 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,839 He ain't moved more graceful like. 323 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,079 Speaker 2: Seeing that right there is a perfect example. It's so 324 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,720 hard to understand the black one was graceful. The first 325 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,440 one seemed clumsier or just kind of out of sorts. 326 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:48,359 Did their body proportions look that different that that might 327 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,200 be an explanation, or did they have pretty much the 328 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,359 same kind of proportions Maybe they were just different sizes. 329 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: Well, the black one looked like he was could have 330 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,920 been a little heavier set. He definitely had longer fur 331 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,039 on him. The other one looked like he had more 332 00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:21,759 of a short short hair than than long. The longest 333 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:24,960 hair that the first one had was around his head 334 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:34,480 and the tail on the black one he was I 335 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:41,759 couldn't really tell the actual size of him because he 336 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,880 looked like he had so much hair. 337 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: That's another thing that's so hard for me to wrap 338 00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:53,680 my mind around. These guys are so many different looks. 339 00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:56,079 It's hard to know what to expect when it comes 340 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,640 to what a dog man's going to look. Like, if 341 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,039 you have an encounter. Speaking of that, how would you 342 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:08,240 describe their tails? Did their tails look disproportionately long compared 343 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:11,640 to their body sizes? Or do you look stubby or 344 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:12,759 pretty normal length? 345 00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: Well, as far as that first one, they looked like 346 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:28,319 he had a fairly long tail. That second one they 347 00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:35,440 weren't by so fast. I didn't really I didn't really 348 00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:37,759 see the tale he was going so fast. 349 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like he was trying to break some wind 350 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,519 speed records. Mm hmm, Yeah, sounds like he was. You've 351 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:50,640 heard about them being seen by quite a few people 352 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,480 in North Georgia from what I understand. How do you 353 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,000 find out about those encounters? 354 00:26:56,759 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: Well, I've slain, I've seen a lot of that on YouTube, 355 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:11,079 on a lot of those shows. And then when I 356 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:19,359 was looking on your site, I found the map that 357 00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:25,720 was showing the different counties and telling them about how 358 00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:33,400 many encounters had been reported, you know, in different parts 359 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:40,319 of the state. And it don't surprise me about North Georgia. 360 00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, got a lot of wild country there. 361 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:55,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I've heard about around over here 362 00:27:55,319 --> 00:28:07,640 in Cherokee County, Floyd County, Alden County, and uh, that's 363 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:13,440 all right here where I'm at at copp County in Douglas, 364 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:23,519 Dave Lash had anywhere from one Haulden County nine. Two 365 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:29,559 of them was right here, was in a mile and 366 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,400 a high from the house at Auburn, Hiram and Polden County. 367 00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:36,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look at how that land is in 368 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,319 northern Georgia, it's hard to think of a better place 369 00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:40,920 for them to live. I mean, they've got all the 370 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,279 resources they could want, plenty of room to roam without 371 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:47,119 being seen if they don't want to be seen. I mean, 372 00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:49,680 you could have an army of dog men in there, 373 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,759 and if they didn't want to be known about, no 374 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:54,000 one would ever be the wiser. 375 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: That's true. 376 00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:58,599 Speaker 2: Well, before I go on, if you have any questions 377 00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:00,799 you want me to ask Ferris, please type them in 378 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,279 all caps if you're in the live chat. That way 379 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:07,599 I won't miss them, p least hopefully. Okay, your wife 380 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,960 knows about your encounters fears, But what does she think 381 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,160 about all this? I mean, she went from one moment 382 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,480 not hearing anything about dog men to the next moment 383 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,519 her husband's telling her about this dog man encounter that 384 00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:23,519 he had on the way home in his truck one night. 385 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:25,440 I'm sure you told her right after you had that 386 00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,720 first one. Does she seem to believe you? And what 387 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:30,279 does she seem to think about all this? 388 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: Well? I think she believes may she just to start with, 389 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:41,839 so we hadn't been married but going on five years now, 390 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,920 so a lot of this happened before man her got married. 391 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,359 But I told her about it and she kind of 392 00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:57,640 looked at me kind of like, I don't know about that. 393 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:06,440 Now she's she's heard enough and sane enough that, you know, 394 00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:09,680 from some of these shows and what I've told her, 395 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,599 I'm pretty sure she believes every word of it. 396 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,279 Speaker 2: Well, that's really good. Yeah, anytime you have support like that. 397 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,079 It's not like you need the support it because you're 398 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,599 not traumatized. But when your significant other is right there 399 00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:26,519 with you and they're not making fun of you and 400 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:29,079 they believe you, I mean, that's about as good as 401 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:30,839 it gets. It really is. 402 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 403 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: From some of the things that you said, it sounds 404 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,559 like you watch your fear of share of cryptid shows 405 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,920 with that in mind. Now you've had these two Dogman encounters. 406 00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:45,680 Are you looking for dog me in shows to watch 407 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,160 on TV? Or do you focus more on Bigfoot? And 408 00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:52,000 if you come across what looks to be a good 409 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,720 dog mean show, you'll happen to tune that on. But otherwise, 410 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,440 is it no big deal? And is it nothing that 411 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,000 you necessarily look. 412 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:06,039 Speaker 1: Were turning on? I watched several of them today, dog 413 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,440 Man and Bigfoot. 414 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you have a dog man encounter or a 415 00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:16,039 sasquatch encounter, it really sets a hook in you in 416 00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,680 most cases, and you can't get enough info about them, 417 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,319 So that makes sense. 418 00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:22,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to learn all I can. 419 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable. You go one moment for not knowing 420 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:30,200 these things existed all of a sudden, having an encounter 421 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,240 with one, It's only natural that you want some answers 422 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,799 and some explanations. So that definitely fits. Well. Let's get 423 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,400 to some of the questions from the people in the 424 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,480 live chat now. The first one up is from Donella 425 00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:48,960 Eileen Grennick and Donella wants to know or Donna Huff 426 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,160 I'm sorry, do you think these two dog men were meats? 427 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,319 I don't remember if you already said that or not. 428 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,079 Thank you. 429 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they were. I never seen him 430 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:15,240 hang together. I did have somebody that was saying that 431 00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:22,000 they had seen two of the black ones. They may 432 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,119 have been mates. I don't know. 433 00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard to see about that. All we 434 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:34,039 can do is guess. Yeah, yeah, that's all you can do. 435 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:39,519 The next question up is from Miguel Floriano, and Miguel 436 00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:42,359 wants to know did your heart start racing when you 437 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,680 saw it? I think he's asking about the second one 438 00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:47,200 or was it a casual Oh wow. 439 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,599 Speaker 1: Now the shaken one. Yeah, my heart was kind of racing. 440 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,279 They just kind of caught me off guard because I 441 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,759 wasn't expecting that to come out from my that tree, 442 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,759 I mean, and I was looking, I had full view 443 00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:13,680 of the front yard, and all of a sudden, there 444 00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:14,119 it came. 445 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,039 Speaker 2: I apologize if you already answered this question, But what 446 00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:22,480 time do you say it was when you had that 447 00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:24,039 second account with a black one? 448 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:32,359 Speaker 1: It was probably around ten ten thirty, that same as 449 00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:33,039 the first one. 450 00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: So it's good and dark. Yeah, that makes even more frightening. 451 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:41,440 But then again, like I said, you're not traumatized, Thank 452 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,160 goodness to that. 453 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,319 Speaker 1: I didn't seem to affect me like that. Of course 454 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,319 that could have been too because to start with, I 455 00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:55,079 really didn't know what I was looking at. 456 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I'm sorry after that. 457 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't been so long in between. It 458 00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:13,679 just it well, it happened, you know. 459 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm so glad you're able to take this and 460 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,760 stride the way you have. Some people could have those 461 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,159 exact encounters and they'd be ready to jump off of 462 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,239 a bridge. So yeah, thank goodness you're taking this so well. 463 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,440 The next question for you is from d Truth and 464 00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:35,960 d wants to know what height and weight would yes 465 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,480 to meet in the eye color? 466 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: Well, the eye color on a white one, it looked 467 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:56,519 sort of a brownish orange. I didn't see no glowing 468 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:03,639 from it like I've heard of some. The black one, 469 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,719 I couldn't even shay the eyes. I don't know. 470 00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you only can see what you saw. Yeah, can't 471 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,800 be faulded for that. This next question up is from 472 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,440 Christina Easterday, and Christina wants to know thank you for sharing. 473 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,360 Did you smell anything and did it go quiet right 474 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,920 before you saw them? 475 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: Well? I wasn't really paying much attention at the time 476 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:45,719 to how quiet it was, but I didn't smell nothing 477 00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:50,559 that much. I do know. 478 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of those things where sometimes I witness 479 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:59,599 to smell something, other times they don't. This next question 480 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,480 for you is from Cookies and Cream. Oh man, that 481 00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:06,599 sounds good. They want to know what year did these 482 00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:07,760 two encounters happen? 483 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,119 Speaker 1: All right, The first one was between two thousand and eight, 484 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:23,960 two thousand and nine, and then last encounter that I 485 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:30,400 had with the black one was like two thy fifteen, 486 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:35,599 so a little while ago. 487 00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has been some time. 488 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: But damn, that neighbor that I was talking about about 489 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:51,039 two years ago, they've seen it behind the house about 490 00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:58,199 Shirk Shaunner fake from my house, right in his yard. 491 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that means for at least a certain period 492 00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:06,199 of time it was hanging around. And I wonder why 493 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,679 that was. I wonder if it was drawn to you 494 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,039 or something else. Then again, if it came shooting up 495 00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:14,400 from underneath that tree on the corner of your house 496 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,400 when you're walking towards it, then maybe not. It's just 497 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,840 so hard to think for these things. It really is this. 498 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: Well, that was the first one that I've seen, is 499 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,559 the one that hain't described that they shane two years ago. 500 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,639 Speaker 2: Oh, the first one. Okay, I missed that. 501 00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:42,119 Speaker 1: Wow, I have brained the black one shance that night. 502 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:52,079 But the white one's been saying, and a couple of 503 00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,480 different places other than where I've seen it. 504 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, that first one when you said you're heading towards 505 00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,679 outer Springs and saw it, how far were you from 506 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,239 home at the time, I was. 507 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,039 Speaker 1: Maybe a mile. 508 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,119 Speaker 2: Oh close? Then okay, yeah, that explains it. 509 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: This next yeah, right there to the left, just before 510 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,920 you get to the to where the phone companies at, 511 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:33,800 there's a pond setting right there, and there's a stream 512 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:40,960 that I had to cross to go by the pond 513 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:44,559 to where he went. I don't know where that what 514 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,840 Once they crossed to where that phone company was, where 515 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,000 they took to the left towards the pond or to 516 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:56,159 the right to the parking lot. I lost sight of 517 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:56,880 him after that. 518 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think you did a good job. Notice what 519 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,519 you did about these two guys. When you have these encounters, 520 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,960 you deserve a lot of credit. Most people wouldn't have 521 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,719 noticed what you did, so that's a good thing. Kiko, 522 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,199 I'm going to butcher his last name, Kiko Villa VSI's 523 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,559 Villa Vessi's wants to know can you share some of 524 00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:20,920 the stories of others in your area that said they 525 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,280 saw the dog men? Thanks for sharing. 526 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:32,679 Speaker 1: Well, my brother h A, he had seen it. The 527 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:41,440 white one. I believe it was during the daytime. Uh, 528 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,760 and it was further down hire in Nuthia Springs Road, 529 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,880 which I don't know. It might have been a couple 530 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:58,440 of miles at most from the house when Hey sen 531 00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:02,320 it and they come back describing what he had seen. 532 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,000 And they didn't didn't really know at the time until 533 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:11,760 I told him later on what we were looking at. 534 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,519 I was talking to him just today. I said, I 535 00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:20,880 don't know how close it was to you, but I 536 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:33,000 got to say a bird's eye view of it. As 537 00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:40,239 far as the black one, that same son in law 538 00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:47,480 said that he had seen seen one and I had 539 00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:51,599 seen another one, so we figured there was at least 540 00:40:51,719 --> 00:41:05,960 two of them, and they were probably three hundred or 541 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:12,039 so in different directions from one another when they were saying. 542 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,079 So that's that's really all I can I can say 543 00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:19,000 about that one. 544 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does make you wonder how many of 545 00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:24,400 those things you have in the area. 546 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: It didn't give you time, That's what I'm wondering. 547 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: It really does. This next question is from Cookies and Cream. 548 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239 They want to know what year was this encounter, But 549 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,400 then again, you've had two, so you've already answered that, but. 550 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,519 Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine was the 551 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:51,800 first one, twenty fifteen on the black one. 552 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,559 Speaker 2: Hopefully those are your only two encounters you're ever going 553 00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:03,159 to have, hopefully never gonna have another one. It looks 554 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,400 like Renee Morrikuni wants to know where their face is similar. 555 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:16,079 Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't tell nothing about the black one because 556 00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:24,000 they so much hair they face on the first one, 557 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,840 that song gun was just I mean, I've seen pictures 558 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,239 of wolves, seen them on TV shows and stuff, and 559 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:42,199 they're pretty. This son of a gun was as ugly 560 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,719 as it could be. Had what I call alligator teeth 561 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:53,840 because they overlapped like an alligator's with his mouth shut. 562 00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: I'll bet that's the sight you still haven't gotten out 563 00:42:59,519 --> 00:42:59,920 of your head. 564 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, And that's one of the pictures I had 565 00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:13,559 shame of one when I was looking. You know, one day, 566 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:22,000 I shame that same picture of the head of the 567 00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,360 one I was looking at, and that's when I knew 568 00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:27,119 that's what I had shamed. 569 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,039 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you found out what they were. It's 570 00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:33,480 one thing to have an encounter with them and know 571 00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:35,800 what they are, But if you never find out what 572 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,519 they were that you saw. That just makes it that 573 00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:41,320 much more difficult. But then again, I think, like I said, 574 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,079 that's one of the reasons why you're able to deal 575 00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:46,599 with these encounters so well, is knowing what they are 576 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,639 and or I guess I should say were, and watching 577 00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:51,880 all these shows about them that you have, so that 578 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:54,760 kind of takes off some of the mystery and that 579 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,960 whole mysterious element. That's one of the biggest reasons why 580 00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:03,800 witnesses tend to be so traumatized by their encounters. This 581 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,760 next question is from Miguel Fouriano, and Miguel wants to 582 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,480 know was it a full moon when you had your encounters. 583 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't recall no full moon when I sang either 584 00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:29,119 one of them. I know the black one was you're 585 00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:36,480 in the summer munch when I shen it probably around 586 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:42,199 this time of the year, going into August maybe. 587 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 2: And. 588 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:52,199 Speaker 1: That, uh, the first one, it was way on up 589 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,960 in the fall when I shanen it. 590 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: I see a lot of people who live out in 591 00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:09,199 the country fairs, they don't have any drapes on their windows. Now, 592 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,360 from talking with you, I got the impression that you 593 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,960 probably do keep drapes on your windows and keep them 594 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:18,440 shut at night time, But that's just a supposition. Do 595 00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:20,840 you keep drapes on your windows and keep them closed 596 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,199 at night? 597 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: I got blinds up. 598 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 2: Did you have blinds before you had those encounters? Now? 599 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: I didn't. 600 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,519 Speaker 2: After that first encounter, which was a mile away from home. 601 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,400 That's one thing. But when you have one right at 602 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,840 the back of your property there, back behind, that's another thing. 603 00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:49,719 When that problem is so close to home, it's at home. 604 00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,239 Did you put the blinds up after that first encounter? 605 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,480 But or did you wait until the second one? 606 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: It was we're in between. It was probably closer to 607 00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:03,840 the second one. 608 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you knew there's one that could be outside 609 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:14,920 at any time, that changes things. I get it. Yeah, dude, yes, sir, definitely. 610 00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:18,199 It looks like Glenn Kamado wants to know. Did they 611 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,039 have human legs or dog legs? 612 00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: Uh? That looked more like on a dog leg to me. 613 00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:35,119 But you're kind of out of shape, you know. The 614 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:41,760 joints just didn't match like like they would on a dog. 615 00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 2: If they didn't match, then what parts of his leg 616 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,760 structure were shorter than normal on a dog versus longer 617 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,360 than normal? 618 00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:02,679 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the thing they they Uh, the joint 619 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,519 looked looked out of proportion for the for the way 620 00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:12,920 the leg was. It just looked like it was way 621 00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:17,280 longer than it should have been on both ends of 622 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:17,880 the joint. 623 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 2: But it just. 624 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,639 Speaker 1: The joint just didn't look like it it was supposed 625 00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:30,400 to move the way it moved. 626 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they just have some strange proportions in general, 627 00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:41,519 so why should I expect the legs to be any different? 628 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,840 This next question for you is from d Truth and 629 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,559 D wants to know do you think they're natural creatures? No? 630 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Was nothing nothing near anything natural 631 00:47:58,039 --> 00:47:58,800 I ever seen. 632 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see how they could be when you 633 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,679 consider all these things that such credible eyewitnesses report seeing 634 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,360 them do, such as yourself. So yeah, that makes two 635 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,400 of us. Would you be open and there's no pressure 636 00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:18,480 to do this, but considering that you've had that one 637 00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:21,599 encounter right behind your house, and then your neighbor told 638 00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:23,599 you about seeing that one that was right back there 639 00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:26,760 as well, do you have any interest if I could 640 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,599 arrange it at having an investigator come to your property 641 00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:33,239 and come to your area, that is, to look around. 642 00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:40,039 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. Okay, I would 643 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:47,800 like to find out more about possibly, I've got my ideas, 644 00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:56,920 but where they are actually calling home, not just a 645 00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:03,440 surrounding area, but full place that they hold up. 646 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 2: Do you have any Keeves in your area? 647 00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's any caves close by where 648 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,840 I'm at. I know back up where I hunted at 649 00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:25,519 in Paulin County. There could postu be a cave or. 650 00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:30,199 Speaker 2: Two, because they do seem to like keeves. But then again, 651 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,159 I guess it depends on what the season is and 652 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,280 other things that are going on. Yeah, it just depends. Really, 653 00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:41,719 that's how it normally goes. It just depends. I've got 654 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,760 a question for you from I think the youngest member 655 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,559 in the life chat Kiel of Geats. That question is 656 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,960 on a scale of one to ten. How pretty was 657 00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:51,679 the dog man? 658 00:49:54,599 --> 00:50:02,079 Speaker 1: Well, the black one? Uh, from what I could tell, 659 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:11,039 I wish they probably an eight. Uh the white one 660 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:18,000 they struck out I chose on him. 661 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like you must have been pretty ugly. 662 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, oh. 663 00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,760 Speaker 2: No, I believe it. It looks like lumin one. Oh 664 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,079 one wants to know what would you have done if 665 00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,719 you caught it? Although you weren't trying to catch either 666 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,840 one of them. So I don't really understand that question. 667 00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:48,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what i'd have done more more uh more, 668 00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:50,440 just want to get rid of it. 669 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,079 Speaker 2: I understand it'd be like the dog cheese in the car. 670 00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, it really would. 671 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,639 Speaker 2: This next one up is from Gail Floriano and Miguel 672 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,960 wants to know would you like to see one again? 673 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,519 Speaker 1: I thought about it. If I knew I could say 674 00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:19,440 one and uh have the same whether they look or 675 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:24,440 what or whatever you want to call it, that I've 676 00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:27,679 had with the lash too, ed wouldn't bother me. 677 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh that's good. Yeah, if you would have said you 678 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,159 never want to see one of these things again, then 679 00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:40,199 that kind of hints at at a different direction than 680 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,880 what we're going The fact that you're open to have 681 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,960 another encounter. That's good, that's really good. That just hammers 682 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,960 home the fact that you're dealing with all this so well. 683 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,920 This next question is from Keelub Gates. He has another 684 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,440 question for you and wants to know do you think 685 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,039 they're the result of human and dogs breeding. 686 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: That is a possibility from what i've some of what 687 00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:18,480 I've seen, or it could be could be some of 688 00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:22,519 the stuff that we're not being told by our government. 689 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's a long list. It's a lot 690 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,360 of things they don't tell us. You can count on that. 691 00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:40,480 This next question is from Sergio and Mesa, and Sergia 692 00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:42,679 wants to know what would you say keeps you so 693 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,159 detached from the experiences. Some people's lives are altered in 694 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,079 some way from seeing these monsters. 695 00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: The biggest thing is if something does happen to me, 696 00:52:58,079 --> 00:52:59,079 I know where I'm going. 697 00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,039 Speaker 2: You're a good man, and that's a good way to 698 00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:08,639 look at it. The truth wants to know, do you 699 00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:10,400 have any photos of any tracks? 700 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: No, I don't have no photos. The most of the 701 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:25,639 ground here is crash and it's until we have a 702 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:33,039 good rainy shaven uh here in the spring and uh 703 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,719 here in the winter, the ground will get all mush. 704 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:41,880 It's it's hard you don't You won't hardly find no tracks. 705 00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:48,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. Without the ground being the right way, you aren't 706 00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:52,000 going to find any tracks. It's funny, Miguel just had 707 00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,480 a question that I was about to ask myself. He 708 00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:59,079 wants to know, well, Miguel Floriano, to be thorough, he 709 00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:02,119 wants to know after your encounter. Did you see any 710 00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:05,039 black SUVs or anything screams around your home? 711 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,559 Speaker 1: I didn't recall any. 712 00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, there's no rhyme nor reason. Sometimes 713 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,559 when it seems like there's a presence, a dog men 714 00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:21,719 presence in an area, especially where people live, you'll find 715 00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:25,320 SUVs popping up you didn't see before, and other vehicles 716 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,679 popping up that that never were there before. But some 717 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,480 of the times that doesn't happen, even in areas where 718 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,400 a lot of encounters happened. So there really isn't any 719 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:40,280 rhyme or reason to that. But well, I'm sorry, please continue. 720 00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:42,960 I know. 721 00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really just go out and advertise 722 00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:55,320 that I had Shane Shane anything to start with. Of course, 723 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,719 I didn't know what i'd like, I said, what I 724 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:03,440 was looking at a long while, I've kind of gotten 725 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,320 an assumption of about what it might could be, you know, 726 00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:13,280 from hearing some talk about it. But until I've seen 727 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:22,119 that that picture that I've seen with that one, that's 728 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,119 first time I really knew what I was looking at, 729 00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:32,480 and I wouldn't have, you know, I kind of look 730 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:38,800 at it like, well, since I didn't advertise it, and 731 00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:44,719 I hadn't heard nothing. Of course, I don't know if 732 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,800 anybody else had seen it or not at that time 733 00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:56,840 when I had that would say anything. If there had 734 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:04,199 been a vehicle like that around, I wouldn't. Probably wouldn't. 735 00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:07,559 I gave it a shacond thought, well. 736 00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:12,039 Speaker 2: Some people would, some people wouldn't. But yeah, it sounds 737 00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:14,639 like if you didn't notice anything, there probably wasn't anything there. 738 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,960 There probably weren't any vehicles that showed up, which that's 739 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,320 always a good thing. I've got one more question for 740 00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:24,679 you before we throw in the towel, and this one's 741 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,599 from Danella Eileen Greennick, and that is did you ever 742 00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:31,440 hear any sounds related to them? 743 00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 1: I never really heard no sounds. They were pretty well quiet. 744 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,880 The only thing that I did hear was after that 745 00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:53,039 black one shot towards the backyard and went down, and 746 00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,639 I did hear somebody shooting back over a little later. 747 00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:04,639 I figured that's what they were shooting at. I did 748 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,719 hear dogs are going, you know, sounding off back over 749 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,079 in that area, but that's all I heard. 750 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: It makes you wonder what that was all about, might 751 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,199 have been related to one of these guys, But yeah, 752 00:57:19,239 --> 00:57:21,280 it's really hard to say all we can do is 753 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:27,559 guess about that. But before we do get out of here, 754 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,239 did I ask you for your closing comments? I've got 755 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,159 so much going on here. I apologize. 756 00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:44,599 Speaker 1: No, you didn't ask, But that's uh main thing I 757 00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:50,719 want to do. If learn all I can about them, 758 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,239 you know, if if I feel like I need too 759 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:04,960 about them, or if I can find out they they're 760 00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:10,079 not gonna harm me. Make sure you all I know 761 00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:12,320 about finding one. I don't know. 762 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,639 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if there's any future in trying 763 00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:18,960 to find one of these guys unless you really know 764 00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:22,079 what you're doing, and very few people fit into that category. 765 00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:26,519 Trust me on that. But like I told you before, Ferris, 766 00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:29,559 I'm so glad that you're dealing with these experiences so well. 767 00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:32,559 Thank goodness for that, because yeah, it can get a 768 00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:35,199 lot worse. It definitely can, and I deal with that 769 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,119 all the time, so we'll just play the glad game. 770 00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:41,840 But having said that, thanks so much for coming on 771 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,760 sharing the details of those experiences with us. I really 772 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:45,400 appreciate it. 773 00:58:46,679 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: Well, thanks for having me. 774 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome, sir, You are welcome. Well. Having said that, 775 00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:55,400 thanks again so much for your time, and have a 776 00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:01,239 great night. All right, thanks, we'll see well that's it 777 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,000 for another episode of the show. Thanks as always so 778 00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:06,880 much for listening. And if you've had a dog mean 779 00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:10,079 encounter or dog me and encounters plural of your own 780 00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:12,320 and would like to speak with me about it to 781 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,000 get help dealing with them, or maybe you'd like to 782 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,519 just come on the show and share your experience or 783 00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:21,559 experiences with the listeners, please go to dogmandancounters dot com 784 00:59:21,679 --> 00:59:24,440 and submit a report. If you do that, then I'll 785 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,840 be more than happy to contact you and schedule a 786 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,119 phone com consultation with you so we can have a 787 00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:34,519 good talk about your experience or experiences. But having said that, 788 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,960 thanks again as so much as always for listening. I 789 00:59:38,079 --> 01:00:03,599 really appreciate it, and have a great night. A F.