Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to I don't know
Speaker 1: it's after nine. It's Tress told you it's like a
Speaker 1: little combo here, right I am. I'm tressed now. That's
Speaker 1: what I am. That's who I am. It's who I've
Speaker 1: always been. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: It is a Sunday afternoon. It is what is at
Speaker 1: the time this recording. It's Sunday, February twenty third. What
Speaker 1: this is a couple of years ago I used to
Speaker 1: do the Oscar predictions, but then last year I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to if anybody wants to join, extended to
Speaker 1: the patrons, and luckily they did. See you think they
Speaker 1: know a couple of people joining this year. But even
Speaker 1: if it's just myself, will go. But if not, this
Speaker 1: is what it's gonna be. It's gonna be an Oscar predictions.
Speaker 1: If people want to join, the link is down below.
Speaker 1: You just join Patroon and our face too tier and
Speaker 1: you can call in we're gonna be doing an oscar pool.
Speaker 1: You could also to if you want, you can join
Speaker 1: our discord, which is the link is not down below,
Speaker 1: it's on other podcasts. Look at the there. If not,
Speaker 1: search geek first hit me up after and you can
Speaker 1: drop them there before the show starts. As far as
Speaker 1: the Oscar Show, we're doing an Oscar pool, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like our NFL draft where all of us
Speaker 1: are gonna pick you know best, every category winners. Whoever
Speaker 1: wins the next after nine will have everyone watching a
Speaker 1: movie in between then and talk about it there, And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good time. And I like doing
Speaker 1: this because yeah, it's fun doing predictions of alone. I
Speaker 1: guess think it was a fun enough cast, but I
Speaker 1: had a much more time, better time with other people.
Speaker 1: And the GV people, you know, kurriculum saw September five,
Speaker 1: didn't go see brutalists like you said about how much
Speaker 1: you want to see, but that's not really their thing.
Speaker 1: I used That's what it used to be, right, I
Speaker 1: used to do Liam people, the old school people will
Speaker 1: remember that. GIV originals will remember Liam Grogan. He's a
Speaker 1: big Oscar guy. And then he left and then I
Speaker 1: don't know why I stopped having him on, just because
Speaker 1: like we do it all virtually now, but I think
Speaker 1: he was just hard. He's a teacher now, so very
Speaker 1: hard schedule, and then I did a couple of years,
Speaker 1: but then I did this. What I'm gonna do is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit the lake right now. So we're at
Speaker 1: two minutes into the cast. I'm gonna give everybody about
Speaker 1: thirteen minutes to trickle in and then we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about everything from Best Picture to Best Actress to the
Speaker 1: Best Anime, Best Foreign Film, everything. So I guess I
Speaker 1: should pull those up to OSCAR nominations. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: good and we're gonna talk a little bit because obviously
Speaker 1: a lot of the films came out, or I would
Speaker 1: have talked about them when I was here, but I
Speaker 1: was not right. I was off with the Twins and everything,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of stuff that I've not talked about.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Oscar season, it's a it's a different season
Speaker 1: this year for me. I'm not a too exciting one.
Speaker 1: It has its ebbs and flows rights because I feel
Speaker 1: like there's some year it's very much like the MCU
Speaker 1: or for wrestling fans, the aaw you know what is it?
Speaker 1: Oh we're gone, We're back. Oh we're gone, We're back.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like we go in waves where there's
Speaker 1: a couple of years and like, all these winners are great,
Speaker 1: this is fantastic. The Oscars completely get it. And then
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, I don't agree with any of these
Speaker 1: choices and these winners feels like a very safe year,
Speaker 1: and that's just what it is. Obviously. None of these movies,
Speaker 1: none of the winners dictate what you like or what
Speaker 1: should be your favorite not your favorite. It's just kind
Speaker 1: of fun. That's where you need to take it. As
Speaker 1: I think, definitely the Oscars the past couple of years
Speaker 1: has like gone down a little bit as far as
Speaker 1: like the importance level because just of certain choices, whether
Speaker 1: it's within the show or the nominations. But they're still
Speaker 1: fun to talk about. And that's what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: today here. So I'm bringing in first April with very
Speaker 1: shiny bright cadders. How's it go in April?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: Good? So far, it's been a relatively good weekend. How
Speaker 1: wout you do anything exciting for the weekend or anything?
Speaker 1: I know, you saw the monkey? I saw that.
Speaker 2: I did. I saw the Monkey on Thursday and I
Speaker 2: liked that a lot. It was fun and I had
Speaker 2: to do farm chores this speking because my parents are
Speaker 2: out of town, which is less fun.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, chores. Yeah, I had a few of them,
Speaker 1: but not to the not to the amount of what
Speaker 1: what does that partake? Like do you do you have
Speaker 1: a list of like eight is a do you do
Speaker 1: the same thing every single time? Does it change up
Speaker 1: a little different? Like what what does that partake?
Speaker 2: So it depends on what time of year it is,
Speaker 2: because they have different animals in the different kind of years.
Speaker 2: So right now it's pretty much just chickens and rabbits
Speaker 2: and the cows don't eat anything major, just watered so
Speaker 2: and then like in the spring here shortly we'll have
Speaker 2: sheep and goats and they've got pigs, so it's just
Speaker 2: making sure everything's got food and water.
Speaker 1: Where do they go for the winter? Do you guys
Speaker 1: have a designated spot you drop them all the time?
Speaker 1: Or I know nothing about farming zero zero? So that's
Speaker 1: I'm like, where are they? Where do these bigger animals
Speaker 1: go during the cold season?
Speaker 2: So uh, at the end of fall, the goats and
Speaker 2: sheep go to the sale and so and then we
Speaker 2: get new ones in the spring.
Speaker 1: Okay, jeez, what a life. Yeah, that's that's crazy, so okay,
Speaker 1: and then I also saw you did you watch Living
Speaker 1: Dine in La just because Clay put it in there?
Speaker 1: Had one you heard before? What was the okay? And
Speaker 1: you enjoyed that? So it was a four out of five?
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did? It was good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, cool. I haven't watched that in a while,
Speaker 1: so probably Clay kind of reminded me that movie exists,
Speaker 1: so I'm excited to hear it. But a nurse print
Speaker 1: is saying, wiki, do you how do you feel about
Speaker 1: the Oscars this year? Because yeah, you we're on the
Speaker 1: cast last year? How do you feel overall? Because I
Speaker 1: feel like my top ten is a lot different I
Speaker 1: imagine yours is very different when I look at some
Speaker 1: of your lists as far as you know, if your Oscars,
Speaker 1: they'd be quite different. But in the scale of what
Speaker 1: they usually nominate? Are you pretty happy with? Like the
Speaker 1: overall list? There's a kind of a magin where are you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a may yere I think, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think last year was much better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And have you seen every single Best Picture nominee?
Speaker 2: I have not seen. I'm still here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear that's good. I just hear it's very heavy,
Speaker 1: So that's what I want to try and get it
Speaker 1: this week for me. I've said this to you and
Speaker 1: other patrons discoords before. The subtle movies are always the
Speaker 1: hardest because I'm like you where I work at home,
Speaker 1: so I could have stuff on while I'm working, But
Speaker 1: it's also like I am working, so I can't watch
Speaker 1: a subtitle movie while i'm and i'd try not to
Speaker 1: do dubs or anything like that or have like the
Speaker 1: descriptive audio if it's something that important. So I want to,
Speaker 1: but also it's the same thing the double of like
Speaker 1: it's subtitles, and I hear it's just a very heavy
Speaker 1: because it's a true story. And I know a friend
Speaker 1: of mine shout out to Wonder make she washed and
Speaker 1: reviewed it, and she had a bunch of people from
Speaker 1: that country message her and like we're very like like
Speaker 1: to review a lot, but talk about it being a
Speaker 1: true story and almost a true story of being like
Speaker 1: worse and whatever happens in the movie. And I know
Speaker 1: nothing about it. I just know I think it's like
Speaker 1: a it's a tragic or sad story and the real
Speaker 1: story is like worse. It's like that's like a sometimes
Speaker 1: that's tough to get in the mindset of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this very especially I would say, I
Speaker 1: think it's about like family and like maybe there's some
Speaker 1: kids involved. I think when it's like Horse, that's like,
Speaker 1: of course, like Barbarian is a sad story. If you know,
Speaker 1: you're the person that showed up and you're renting this place.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's just two young people, it's fine.
Speaker 1: But once you get into like the real life stuff
Speaker 1: that has to do with family, that's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: do I want to put myself through this on a Monday.
Speaker 1: You know too, But okay, that's the only one you still
Speaker 1: haven't seen, Okay, so yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2: It's not available anywhere and it didn't come to the people.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, that's the same thing. Like also, I
Speaker 1: missed a complete Unknown, but at least everything other than
Speaker 1: I'm still here is either on streaming or VODNA. But
Speaker 1: I think a complete Unknown doesn't come out until it's
Speaker 1: either right before the oscars or after. So I can't
Speaker 1: even have an opinion on it because I missed my
Speaker 1: chance to see it, and I don't really understand the
Speaker 1: method of putting it I get they want to wait,
Speaker 1: but like if the Oscars is next week, to not
Speaker 1: put it out so close. I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: but maybe I'm wrong. I guess it was a hit,
Speaker 1: so they just feel whoever saw it saw it. But uh,
Speaker 1: got the two munch Ral boys we're bringing here, Mike
Speaker 1: and Maddie. How's it go on, gentlemen, guys, Hey guys,
Speaker 1: doing good yourselves? Good? Good? Good so far.
Speaker 3: Nice to see you guys. How's going? Happy Sunday, Happy Sunday?
Speaker 1: Yeah you morning?
Speaker 3: This morning was rough, but I'm doing better now.
Speaker 1: Oh right, you watched the full Brutalist this morning?
Speaker 3: I did not for that.
Speaker 4: I told you what I wrote in the chat was
Speaker 4: genuine like I had like a deja vum into the
Speaker 4: this morning because those very last Sunday where like I
Speaker 4: woke up and we had the cast in the afternoon
Speaker 4: and I knew had to.
Speaker 3: Watch the holiday special.
Speaker 4: So it was a bit of a scary flash of
Speaker 4: deja vu that I got.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you also get to did you like the
Speaker 1: brew list more on the holiday Special?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did.
Speaker 4: It's definitely, uh, definitely quite the contrast, but yeah it
Speaker 4: was good man, I watched it pretty much like all
Speaker 4: the way through, Like I didn't really take any breaks.
Speaker 4: And in terms of which half I like more, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure to be honest, but I'm pretty in line.
Speaker 4: I saw some of your scores, I'm pretty much the same,
Speaker 4: and I'm around like a four on five.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And in terms of rewatchability, I don't know, you know
Speaker 4: how often I had to return to it. It's not
Speaker 4: one of those for me, but it was. It was
Speaker 4: well made for sure, and some good performances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I'll ever be watched that. No,
Speaker 1: in the sense of like it's not like we're i'mily
Speaker 1: where it's so disturbing, Like there's some bad parts in it,
Speaker 1: but nothing that I'm like, Okay, I've not seen this before.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just that time of my year overall
Speaker 1: the Oscars. Obviously, Mike, you got Wicked, so you got that,
Speaker 1: and I do got the substance. But it's tough with
Speaker 1: like the substance. I had already liked that before, so
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for like what's that Oscar movie? My
Speaker 1: examples the Holdovers last year that was nominated. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't really know if I care about the Holdovers,
Speaker 1: and then I watched like, oh I love this im
Speaker 1: So then that's I'm like, oh, I'm so happy the
Speaker 1: Oscars exist because I watched this movie I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: and now I love it. But like all the movies
Speaker 1: that got nominated that enjoy like Done and Wicked, or
Speaker 1: there's a Friditian slurry there Dune in Substance like I
Speaker 1: already have loved those petures. Yeah, I'll probably try to
Speaker 1: watch it this week because Oscars are coming up.
Speaker 3: I'll go much have you seen of it?
Speaker 4: Because I know you've mentioned in the chat here and
Speaker 4: that you've seen bits like like what have.
Speaker 1: The first twenty to twenty five? Because and then I
Speaker 1: fell asleep, so it gets a little murky of win.
Speaker 1: And then I will go for Defying Gravity, which you know,
Speaker 1: great set piece, but I woke up and she's in
Speaker 1: the air. I'm like, oh my god. It reminded me
Speaker 1: of the Mass of Steel. But I I, like I said,
Speaker 1: I it's a well made movie. Thing that and once
Speaker 1: I maybe once I watched the full thing, I'll be
Speaker 1: on the band way and I'm that I think it's
Speaker 1: in the similar vein is like last year because I
Speaker 1: think some of the same complaints Wicked. It's getting the
Speaker 1: same complaints Barbie Gone, like oh, well it's not on
Speaker 1: Oscar movie. It's just that's like well, no, like I
Speaker 1: think like enough people like it did very well the
Speaker 1: box office. It's well made like Wicked, Like there's a
Speaker 1: couple acting categories. But even like I agree with Mike
Speaker 1: with like Conclave, like to me, I wouldn't. I can't
Speaker 1: take out Ariana Grande because I haven't seen the full movie.
Speaker 1: But I was really disappointed by Isabelle Roselene. Not that
Speaker 1: she was bad, but I'm talking about the scene. And
Speaker 1: I saw a scene and like it's a it's a
Speaker 1: good scene, but it's like very short, like it was
Speaker 1: short that I thought it was like a like a
Speaker 1: like a huge like a ten minute like dial like
Speaker 1: something like that, like something.
Speaker 5: Good in media dialogue, a good Devenian monologue or something.
Speaker 5: But she's mostly just like talking to them about like
Speaker 5: she hasn't but.
Speaker 3: It's two minutes. It's like two minutes long, like she
Speaker 3: has I don't even you haven't you haven't seen.
Speaker 1: Conk No, I saw it.
Speaker 5: I just don't remember her par It's.
Speaker 4: Like when she talks to them and like the know
Speaker 4: in the cafeteria has this scene like talking to everyone and.
Speaker 3: It's like two minutes long. It's very good, but it's
Speaker 3: not like.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I thought that was not the scene. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: that has to be a bigger scene than that. Again,
Speaker 1: not a bad scene, but there has to be a
Speaker 1: bigger scene, and there was, Like I just thought there
Speaker 1: was gonna be something there. So that's why with like.
Speaker 5: See like a career nomination, I feel like it's did
Speaker 5: a lot of that this year with the Oscars. You
Speaker 5: never know if it's okay, this is for that particular movie.
Speaker 5: Are they rewarding this for past stuff? Is it more
Speaker 5: of a career accomplishment award? Is the narrative pushing this
Speaker 5: person like look with Demi Moore although Denmimore deserves it
Speaker 5: more than Rossellini, but has a lot of factors playing
Speaker 5: into things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's all And that's why it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1: It's so funny they always talk about, like I do
Speaker 1: think there's more diverse nominations, but they always talk about like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, five years ago, it's a whole different voting body,
Speaker 1: but it still kind of feels relatively the same, Like
Speaker 1: we have those where it feels okay, there's a career
Speaker 1: oscar and they hit like the same sort of thing,
Speaker 1: Like I don't think like the Academy Award nominations the
Speaker 1: past ten years have felt like from now until like
Speaker 1: two thousand and what are we end fifteen, I'll pull
Speaker 1: us up by you don't feel like there's a vast difference, Like, man,
Speaker 1: the the Academy is so much different, like all these
Speaker 1: wild movies, like well.
Speaker 5: I think you saw it with everything ever all at once.
Speaker 5: I don't think that movie wins yes years ago.
Speaker 1: That that's that's fair. And I think Parasites a little
Speaker 1: bit like that. But to me, it's like one of us,
Speaker 1: we're okay. Parasite gets in wins, everything ever all once
Speaker 1: gets in wins. But it's like the overall nominations are
Speaker 1: still pretty much the same. It's not like a bunch
Speaker 1: of everything everall once is okay and they go twenty
Speaker 1: five for.
Speaker 4: You guys, like when you watch The Substance, did you
Speaker 4: imagine that getting these nums? Because I didn't like that's
Speaker 4: why I like so definitely not so that's a huge
Speaker 4: win for me, Like even though I'm similar to you guys,
Speaker 4: like I heard you mentioned before, like you're not as
Speaker 4: high on it this year as last year. Like for me, yeah,
Speaker 4: I feel similar, like I was excited going into it,
Speaker 4: but now that I've seen the nums and I'm kind
Speaker 4: of reflecting on it, like the hype definitely isn't the
Speaker 4: same as what I had last year, but I.
Speaker 5: Think is lower for a lot of them. But there's
Speaker 5: still a good number of the last year, everyone was
Speaker 5: picking on My because it was like the only one
Speaker 5: of the nominations that was like not a good movie,
Speaker 5: and now you've got like I haven't seen Nickel Boys
Speaker 5: or I'm still here, but I hear are pretty good,
Speaker 5: but like not like like amazing. And of course there's
Speaker 5: me a Perez, which is a completely different story, but
Speaker 5: there's still some you know, there's some good stuff there.
Speaker 5: And I feel like with Dune, I mean, Dune still
Speaker 5: has a lot of nominations. It just didn't get the
Speaker 5: director nomination everyone wanted, and I personally feel like the
Speaker 5: announcement of Messiah played a lot into that, but he
Speaker 5: still got Best Picture, So that's something.
Speaker 1: Don't get me started on Dune and awards and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I'm still mad at kirkla or Dylanan Taylor
Speaker 1: was right in the podcast right there and stuff. But
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen the Best Picture nominees were Whiplash, The Theory
Speaker 1: of Everything, Selma, Imitation Game, Grandbood, Best Hotel, Boyhood, American Sniper,
Speaker 1: and then the winner was Birdman. So and to me, like,
Speaker 1: I agree, I think might be a good point that
Speaker 1: maybe there is some more one off still again there
Speaker 1: that wouldn't but like that feels like the list this
Speaker 1: year feels pretty much like that Birdman. You can make
Speaker 1: the cases that like weird, while one is like Oscar
Speaker 1: Baby sometimes but it's a pretty out there movie, like
Speaker 1: you got Michael keenan a bird costume flying around right
Speaker 1: like it's not And that again, I will always say
Speaker 1: that year Eddie Redmy winning over Keene was a crime
Speaker 1: that to me is I've not forgiven the Academy for that.
Speaker 1: They should have knighted Keaton when they had the chance,
Speaker 1: and now you know we can't.
Speaker 3: I don't remember that moment too much.
Speaker 4: There was a little like blur of a couple of
Speaker 4: years where I kind of I guess, I guess I
Speaker 4: just missed the Oscars.
Speaker 6: But the drinking drinking was bad.
Speaker 1: But in my tense, there's like a viral clip that
Speaker 1: went around that point where he like had a speech
Speaker 1: in his hand and then when Eddie Redmy won, he
Speaker 1: like put it back in his pocket. So and it
Speaker 1: was like a very split. It was a split, but
Speaker 1: I felt like going into everyone felt like like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Keaton's you know, and like I redmain but
Speaker 1: like I just think there everything, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it was bad either. It's it's it's that thing that
Speaker 1: happens that when someone wins that you don't agree with.
Speaker 1: Now you're like, oh, like you just in your mind
Speaker 1: you are like bad performance, So this you put in
Speaker 1: the bad court category. But it's not like same thing
Speaker 1: like Jared Letta, Like I thought he was great in
Speaker 1: Dallas Bier's Club, but I don't think he held a
Speaker 1: candle with Michael Fastbenner and Twelve Years of Slave. Michael
Speaker 1: Fassbenner was terrible and scary in that movie. Jared Letton
Speaker 1: was like he was really good. But then it's like
Speaker 1: sometimes the political plays and role right, and that was
Speaker 1: a very important movie, Dallas Biers Clubs. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I get that point, but absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's also kind of like Leo O DiCaprio. Everyone was
Speaker 5: begging for him to get his Oscar finally and the
Speaker 5: movie he got it. For the Revenant, it's it's a
Speaker 5: good performance, but when you compare to like some of
Speaker 5: his others, it's like, yeah, obviously you gave it to
Speaker 5: him there because he was the best of the bunch
Speaker 5: and you want to underline his career for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah win what because I'm just trying to see And
Speaker 1: sometimes they also do that. I feel like when it's
Speaker 1: like a week or year when there's like not many
Speaker 1: like you know what, just get And that's when it
Speaker 1: was twenty sixteen, right, yeah, the Revenant. It wasn't for
Speaker 1: Best Picture too? Oh no act Okay, so what yeah,
Speaker 1: like to me, this, yeah did win for Best direct
Speaker 1: like like the actors like it's like any Redman a
Speaker 1: Danish girl, but they weren't gonna give it to him. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't think Michael Fastbenner and and Steve Jobs, which
Speaker 1: I liked, but I don't think it's like, man, that's
Speaker 1: fast Beener's best role. Matt Dane and The Martian and
Speaker 1: Brian Krantz and Trumpo and then Leo won, So it
Speaker 1: is really like to me, that feels like there's not
Speaker 1: many people Leo's here. It's a good enough performance, like,
Speaker 1: let's give it to him the same. That's another year
Speaker 1: that I was not a fan of Mark Rylance. He
Speaker 1: went over Sloane Stallone. Yeah, and even then I would
Speaker 1: have give it to Tom Hardy before I gave it
Speaker 1: to Stallone. So no, yeah, right yeah, British Spies. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is another year I hated winner for Best Picture Spotlight. Again,
Speaker 1: good movie, but to me, that just feels like a
Speaker 1: Netflix dock that was made to a movie Like, it
Speaker 1: just feels like to me, it was not anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll do that before we get into this. Let's see Room,
Speaker 1: rev Knit, the Martian, Mad Max, through Road, Brooklyn Bridges, Bias,
Speaker 1: Bridge Short and Spotlight. I would have never thought they'd
Speaker 1: give it a mad Max.
Speaker 5: Damn good a series of nominations right there. Holy it is.
Speaker 1: But I would have give it to Revnet, I would
Speaker 1: give it to Big Short. I would have give it
Speaker 1: to mad Max, would give it to the Martian. I
Speaker 1: could even make a case for yet Brooklyn, I have
Speaker 1: not seen a long times. I need to watch I
Speaker 1: feel like whenever I saw it, I was sick, and
Speaker 1: I don't have a good memory of it. But like
Speaker 1: even that, I have four movies i'd put over for Spotlight.
Speaker 1: So but you know, that's what happens just the year,
Speaker 1: all right, let me get.
Speaker 5: I always remember Spotlight because that was the first time
Speaker 5: I went to a critics screening of a movie. Back
Speaker 5: when he for a website. I saw that I saw
Speaker 5: John Wick Chapter two, and I had no idea that
Speaker 5: I was sitting down watching the picture nomination.
Speaker 3: What did they have you go to?
Speaker 5: There were something like like like smaller theaters downtown where
Speaker 5: they were doing the screenings and stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm gonna Oh, I.
Speaker 4: Want to ask you've seen most of the movies? Which
Speaker 4: ones are you missing from the Best Picture?
Speaker 2: The only one I haven't seen for Best Picture is
Speaker 2: I'm still here, ticked. Yeah, I've watched a couple of
Speaker 2: times since I came out.
Speaker 4: I'm still I heard you guys mentioned too, it's what
Speaker 4: what's the words you use before, Travis, It's it's like
Speaker 4: it's depressing or it's it's dark, Like what's it about?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it's supposed to be kind of a kind
Speaker 1: of a no, I can't remember the word now that
Speaker 1: he asked me, but yeah, it is supposed to be
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's a true story. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's it's very much a true story. But then yeah,
Speaker 1: the true story is like worse and it's just like
Speaker 1: bad stuff that happens in that country. It's just like
Speaker 1: certain laws and everything. So yeah, I think it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's a tough watch. That's why if you do
Speaker 1: watch it, prepare yourself so.
Speaker 3: You know what it's about. People.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, okay, and then yeah for best picture,
Speaker 1: I've watched everything, but like four Emilia pres I might
Speaker 1: try this week.
Speaker 2: We'll see you can.
Speaker 1: That's that's why it's like, at least were the other
Speaker 1: movies that's hey, I have no interest, but it's like
Speaker 1: this is really good. Nickel Boys saw Nickel Boys, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't like it's in first person perspective and it
Speaker 2: just really bugged me. But the movie itself is fine,
Speaker 2: but I didn't like the gimmick.
Speaker 1: Wow that is I did not know that at all,
Speaker 1: because all the I just always see the poster of
Speaker 1: those two kids looking up. That's all I've seen this
Speaker 1: movie I've never seen.
Speaker 5: The trailer tells you nothing about it either.
Speaker 1: Okay, well there you go. Yeah, so I haven't seen
Speaker 1: pres that and then honestly wicked fully and then a
Speaker 1: complete unknow because like I said, it's just not out
Speaker 1: to watch it this week.
Speaker 5: I'm watching this this week.
Speaker 1: Okay, Then if I can watch it before, I definitely
Speaker 1: will watch it before because I love main Gold and
Speaker 1: I love Dylan, and I want to just see it
Speaker 1: for myself because I feel like I've talked to both
Speaker 1: people where people say, oh, shanmy does a great job,
Speaker 1: and then for another people like it just feels the
Speaker 1: kind of oppression to me, and the trailer it felt
Speaker 1: like it was not like Dylan to me. But you know,
Speaker 1: I got to see the whole movie, so I have
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask everybody. So I'm gonna do down the nominees.
Speaker 1: Let me ask everybody, like last year, there they're what
Speaker 1: they wish would win. But then i'll get your official prediction.
Speaker 1: I'll write it down, and then anybody else that could
Speaker 1: make it, like Clay et cetera. I'll get there in
Speaker 1: the discord and then we'll go from there. So the
Speaker 1: best visual effects here we got Alien, Romless, Better Man,
Speaker 1: Kingdom of the Plan Apes, Wicked, and Dune Part two
Speaker 1: April to start with you, what's your want? And then
Speaker 1: what's your prediction?
Speaker 2: My heart really says Romulus, even though they had that
Speaker 2: really bad one, really bad CDGA. But I think it's
Speaker 2: going to be Dune.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So yeah, April's Dune Manny, where are you?
Speaker 4: My prediction? My official pick is going to be doing
Speaker 4: as well. In terms of want, I'm not sure to
Speaker 4: be honest, is some good I mean I haven't seen
Speaker 4: Better Man, but you know, based on the trailers, the
Speaker 4: the effects look good, so some good choices there. Honestly
Speaker 4: I'm a bit torn as to where, but I mean
Speaker 4: I'm happy if Dune wins.
Speaker 3: I'm totally happy with that too. So right with doing
Speaker 3: on this one?
Speaker 1: Okay, right with Dune, Mike.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of good monkey CGI going on there.
Speaker 5: I was actually shocked that Alien was nominated for this one.
Speaker 5: I was hoping you would get nominated for sound because
Speaker 5: I think that like it deserves that, like in the bag,
Speaker 5: but for special effects. Honestly, probably want and think will
Speaker 5: win is Doune cause it does look damn good. It's
Speaker 5: solid stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, so these are gonna be some categories
Speaker 1: where there's absolutely no swing boats because yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go doune as well, like I because I want It's like,
Speaker 1: I think there's great things to everything, but there's just
Speaker 1: so many great visuals in Doom where it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can't it's just just scale landscape lots of just
Speaker 1: like wide shots that just look great. Where we live
Speaker 1: in an age where there's tons of backgrounds and areas
Speaker 1: where it's okay, something looks a little bit off.
Speaker 5: But I will say I'm not sure if if if
Speaker 5: the Gapes never got this Oscar, I'll give it to that.
Speaker 5: But the reason I'm hesitant because I feel like, you know,
Speaker 5: you're the fourth in the franchise. At some point it
Speaker 5: looks good, but it's not as much of a step
Speaker 5: up from the other three that I would like. Put
Speaker 5: that over overdue.
Speaker 4: M it's also odd because they didn't better man like
Speaker 4: I didn't. They use like a similar technology for the
Speaker 4: monkey that the Apes movies.
Speaker 1: You think, so I thought, that's sad.
Speaker 4: It's interesting that you have voted them in the running.
Speaker 4: I mean, they both look awesome, so it's it's definitely worthy.
Speaker 4: I just find it interesting.
Speaker 5: What I heard about that movie is that the guy
Speaker 5: that that does the motion capture for the I'm not
Speaker 5: true this Robbie Williams I think his name is, He
Speaker 5: actually narrates the movie, but the guy does the voice
Speaker 5: of him, like because he's supposed to be the monkey.
Speaker 5: The guy who does his voice is the guy who
Speaker 5: does the motion capture for it.
Speaker 1: So Robbie Williams does it, so he narrates the movie,
Speaker 1: but he's not playing the ape.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that's why I heard. And but
Speaker 5: the songs happened, it's the songs, the recorded songs.
Speaker 1: Lot going on with that movie. I will watch it
Speaker 1: at some point, just I know not Yeah, Like I've
Speaker 1: seen some clips that just look wild and like I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be the meme where it is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know who Rob Williams is, Like I don't,
Speaker 1: but like that's not a reason I need to watch.
Speaker 1: That's not a reason I just didn't go to the
Speaker 1: theaters for it. But uh yeah, I'll check it out.
Speaker 1: So and now we got sounds, so that's a calmo. Now,
Speaker 1: remember they put sound editing and mixing together so there's
Speaker 1: no split, so it's like all the nominations, it's like
Speaker 1: Complete Unknown, and then it's like six people, but it's
Speaker 1: a Complete Unknown. Dune Part two, Amelia Perez, Wicked and
Speaker 1: Wild Robot. I can see why Wicked and a million there.
Speaker 1: I just don't have I've not seen Complete Unknown. So
Speaker 1: other than just in playing the music, is there like
Speaker 1: really great sound in that those like in a Complete
Speaker 1: Unknown or is it just the songs sounds tough like
Speaker 1: I just feel like with Dune, I like would done Wicked,
Speaker 1: like their fantasy sci fi worlds. I can feel that,
Speaker 1: But like Complete Unknown, I don't know. I haven't seen that,
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna say Dune here. I think they're
Speaker 1: I think Dune's gonna get a lot of these technical
Speaker 1: ones so then you know they make them feel good
Speaker 1: about it. But I guess we could always pull it wile.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say Dune for just some certain
Speaker 1: moments for me, But I'm not surprised if it loses here. So, Mike,
Speaker 1: what about you?
Speaker 5: Very cool? You have an animated movie in best sound.
Speaker 5: I feel like you almost ever see that. That being said,
Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna win, so yeah, want and
Speaker 5: will again Dune. I feel like those these two categories
Speaker 5: are the one that it has the highest chance of getting.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, Mannie, what about you?
Speaker 3: Sound's tough, man. I'm actually the beating between.
Speaker 4: I mean again, I haven't seen a Milia Perez, so
Speaker 4: that's not really fair. Same thing with completely Une. I'm
Speaker 4: the beating between Dune and Wicked. But I always think
Speaker 4: back to when I saw Dune two an imax, so
Speaker 4: I was like, I think it's literally the loudest thing
Speaker 4: I've ever seen in a theater when I don't know
Speaker 4: what those things are called, when those big machines are
Speaker 4: just ripping through the sand. Yeah, it's the first time
Speaker 4: where I genuinely told myself like, I think, I feel
Speaker 4: like this is a bit too loud, Like usually I
Speaker 4: like the loudness in the theater, but maybe I'm just
Speaker 4: getting old. But for that reason alone, I think I
Speaker 4: have to have to go do two.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, April? Yeah? Another four way Okay,
Speaker 1: So we'll see if anybody else in the discord chooses
Speaker 1: somebody else other than doing some of these categories and
Speaker 1: they win. Could be a good swing boat here, but
Speaker 1: we got next production design the Brutalist, Conclave, Doom Part two,
Speaker 1: Nos Frau Tou, and Wicked. I really enjoyed Conclave. We'll
Speaker 1: get to that with the best picture. I don't know
Speaker 1: if like.
Speaker 3: This one's a tough one, man. I'm struggling with.
Speaker 1: This one too. I just feel like there's nothing else
Speaker 1: this year that came out that had better production design
Speaker 1: than Conclave. Like, I don't know, I just feel like
Speaker 1: those other four are very specific and very like brutalists,
Speaker 1: like Dune. I know someone might say about the brutalist,
Speaker 1: but to me that felt like, okay, I could see
Speaker 1: it there and some of these set designs, but Conclave
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, they're just going off like
Speaker 1: the Vatican, Like, I don't know. That one for me
Speaker 1: is not as strong. But yeah, April Surthy, what is it?
Speaker 1: Do you have a wanton here and then you have
Speaker 1: your official prediction?
Speaker 2: So I really wish that I thought not to Rotchet
Speaker 2: was going to win this, but I think it'll probably
Speaker 2: be Wicked.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Wicked.
Speaker 3: What about you, Maddie, This one's brutal, man.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I could like you're saying that about Conclave, but
Speaker 4: I feel like like the Academy might be cheesy in
Speaker 4: that way too, of just seeing that as a plus,
Speaker 4: like oh, they recreated like the Vatican.
Speaker 3: This and that, you know, so yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: tough one.
Speaker 1: That's what Leamy used to always say. He'd say, like
Speaker 1: they'd always for a costume, you'd have like lower the rings,
Speaker 1: you'd have like planets all this stuff. But then it'd
Speaker 1: be like the Victorian Age, like nice stresses. It would
Speaker 1: always like, yeah, that's the one that gets it, you
Speaker 1: know exactly.
Speaker 4: Honestly, my wants would probably be nus fraught to yeah,
Speaker 4: we're probably or maybe doing, but I'm gonna have to
Speaker 4: go with I think Wicked's gonna take this one as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mike, what about.
Speaker 5: You, I'll give you another tie because nos Rot is
Speaker 5: a close second for me. But when you look at
Speaker 5: what they did to put Wicked to screen, having the
Speaker 5: actual train there, all the the live flowers they brought
Speaker 5: in to adorn the sets, and just the translation of
Speaker 5: what was on stage to what's in the movie. When
Speaker 5: you see the actual like Broadway show, like a lot
Speaker 5: of the sets are kind of like more Bear and
Speaker 5: they really had to take that and expand upon it,
Speaker 5: so I think that's gonna gonna lock it in for it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Wicked, Okay, ummm, yeah, it's boring, but I
Speaker 1: think the same as you guys, Like I could make
Speaker 1: a case for Doom, but like nos Rat too, I
Speaker 1: absolutely loved and there's just some imagery that just stands
Speaker 1: up big time. But I think Wicked, especially with this
Speaker 1: stage play aspect. And then like I said, bringing life,
Speaker 1: like I thinelk, it kind of be a shock if
Speaker 1: it were to lose here. I'm not saying it's impossible,
Speaker 1: but I think this is kind of one they should have.
Speaker 4: And then it's gonna take some awards home for yeah,
Speaker 4: like it might not take the acting ones, but it's
Speaker 4: gotta it's gotta take a couple of home.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, okay, So so far we have no
Speaker 1: difference predictions whatsoever. It's gonna see.
Speaker 3: Somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so we don't know what.
Speaker 3: Was on fire last year.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Anty did win last year, she went Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the polling was, but yeah, she
Speaker 1: did win by last year, so we'll see what she goes.
Speaker 1: I think, so I think she did only miss one,
Speaker 1: so hopefully this year it's as the worst year ever,
Speaker 1: misses them all, but international feature Film, I'm still here
Speaker 1: from Brazil, like The Girl with the Needle from Denmark,
Speaker 1: Melia Prez France, Uh, the Sea of the Sacred fig Germany,
Speaker 1: and Flow from Latvia. I guess I'll start because I'm
Speaker 1: just going back and forth him down. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: tough because it's so all that stuff with the Melia
Speaker 1: Prez happened, right, and it's just a question of like
Speaker 1: how much and the Oscar votes were after and it's
Speaker 1: like how much does it impact it? But yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: it was after all the controversy stuff, so like and
Speaker 1: I but that the problem is I've still seen Amelia
Speaker 1: Perez win, like I think, like at the PGA's it's
Speaker 1: still won for Best like International Film, and like the
Speaker 1: the voting bodies are like That's why I's bummed out
Speaker 1: tonight because tonight it's the SAG Awards and that happens
Speaker 1: before this because I want to see who the actors
Speaker 1: voted for for some of these categories. But so that's
Speaker 1: what I'll say. Yeah, if you're listening to recording wise,
Speaker 1: we've not seen the SAG, but there's been the PGA,
Speaker 1: the DJA and the WGA and those like the voting bodies.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm just gonna give to Amelia Perez here.
Speaker 1: Maybe there is I think there's a chance I'm still
Speaker 1: here could always sneak it in and maybe something well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna give it over here.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like it'll still they got it
Speaker 1: got thirteen nominations for a reason, right, And I think
Speaker 1: some of the some of the controversy will hurt it,
Speaker 1: but I think there's still just gonna go with it here.
Speaker 1: So my official predict is Amelia Press. I can't give
Speaker 1: a one because I've unfortunately not seen these even flow.
Speaker 1: I want to get to try and see this week
Speaker 1: for because I that's like the front runner for mat
Speaker 1: It just seems to win everything. So I do want
Speaker 1: to check it out before the actual awards. But Mike,
Speaker 1: what about you, Okay.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have a difference here because I think the
Speaker 5: controversy is going to affect it. I think I love
Speaker 5: those past past award ceremonies, the voting stop before the
Speaker 5: controversy happened. I think it's gonna have an effect. I mean,
Speaker 5: plt's just just because I mean, I haven't seen I'm
Speaker 5: still here, but it's gotta be better. So I'm going
Speaker 5: with I'm still here.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be better, all right, Okay, Maddy, what about you?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Oh you're muted? Thank you guys there.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ride with my Montreal boy on this one
Speaker 4: and do I'm still here as well?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: About our Amelia provided swings, if they give it some
Speaker 4: some stuff or not, I.
Speaker 5: Think it's gonna get some stuff, just not this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, bro, what about you.
Speaker 2: I'm refusing to vote for familiar prez pretty things, so
Speaker 2: I'm also go ahead, but I'm still here. Although I
Speaker 2: really liked The Girl with the Needle, I wish it
Speaker 2: was doing better, but I think.
Speaker 5: Okay, what's that about the girl with the needle?
Speaker 2: It's about woman new murdered a bunch of children.
Speaker 1: Be a smart it's not a good time. It's gonna
Speaker 1: make a smart out common about oh the girl the needle.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess there's there's more of that. But well,
Speaker 1: there you go. That unfortunate you guys have put me
Speaker 1: in the position of wanting Amelia Prez to win. Here
Speaker 1: be a big switating vote for me, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you could be right. It could be and then I
Speaker 1: do wonder. We'll talk about some acting later. But documentary
Speaker 1: short this is always a fun one because lots of
Speaker 1: these we get to just kind of go in the
Speaker 1: dark and take a guess at But uh, it's death
Speaker 1: by numbers, I am ready, incident instruments of a beating heart,
Speaker 1: and the only girl in the orchestra April. You've seen
Speaker 1: any of these?
Speaker 2: I have seen the only girl in the orchestra?
Speaker 1: Okay, So is that where you're going or are you
Speaker 1: going somewhere else?
Speaker 2: That's where I'm going.
Speaker 1: Only girl, Okay, Maddie, what do you want to throw
Speaker 1: your pick on? Here?
Speaker 3: My god, I'm gonna go with give me incident, mark
Speaker 3: me down.
Speaker 1: For incident incident Okay, perfect, Mike.
Speaker 5: I'm also gonna go with the only girl in the orchestra.
Speaker 1: Only girl the orchestra. Okay, I'm gonna go with Uh,
Speaker 1: I am ready warden, That's where I'm gonna go to. Okay,
Speaker 1: how was that?
Speaker 2: It was really sad? Do you know what it's about? No,
Speaker 2: So it's following the guy on the who's on death
Speaker 2: row right before up to when he's executed.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, maybe jesuise, what do you do?
Speaker 2: Murdered? The guy just murdered one guy?
Speaker 1: There you go? Okay, document I guess I was because
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, like, how do you make that
Speaker 1: into a shore? But yeah, I guess if it's the
Speaker 1: day of there you go. So uh, documentary, feature film,
Speaker 1: you got Black Fox Diaries, No Other Land, Porcelain War
Speaker 1: soundtracked De Cupita and then Sugarcane. So I guess I'm
Speaker 1: I guess I'm up here. Let me look at these posters.
Speaker 1: That's how I sometimes go off on the on what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking here.
Speaker 5: If this is extra choice. You got one documentary that's
Speaker 5: about Ukraine and one documentary that's about a Palestine in there,
Speaker 5: so I think I.
Speaker 1: Thought one was. I thought we had to not saying
Speaker 1: you can't have more, but I thought there was a
Speaker 1: Ukraine one last year, but there was that was okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: which one is that.
Speaker 5: This year?
Speaker 1: We know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, no other land is the Palestine one?
Speaker 1: It's okay, h War that one? Okay, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with no other Land. I'm going to go that direction
Speaker 1: because maybe, like I said, because one has one before
Speaker 1: again that's just no bearing. It's probably going to be
Speaker 1: based actually on how good the films are. But I'm
Speaker 1: going to go with that route there, So Mike, where
Speaker 1: are you going?
Speaker 5: Honestly, it's a fifty to fifty shop between those two
Speaker 5: and named so I'm just gonna go with no other
Speaker 5: land because also it's kind of like a controversy around
Speaker 5: it because apparently they had a hard time finding Yeah,
Speaker 5: there is no US distributor for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh okay, gee a good thing though, like well,
Speaker 1: like what's what's well? The Academy would get screeners so
Speaker 1: they would see in and if they want to write
Speaker 1: it's a question if they wanted to see it. But
Speaker 1: if they want to see it, they would have got
Speaker 1: the screeners. We wouldn't have. But I'm sure it's somewhere
Speaker 1: on a on the back of a truck site somewhere.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I couldn't find it anyway.
Speaker 1: Really, Maddie, what about you?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna follow the train here and do.
Speaker 1: No other lines. Okay, So April, are you gonna follow
Speaker 1: as well? Are you gonna take a swing and maybe
Speaker 1: go for a big one?
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna go for a Porcelain war.
Speaker 1: Oh she did it, so there you go. So if
Speaker 1: that's good, So okay, so let's see next up we
Speaker 1: got or music original song al mel from Amelia Perez,
Speaker 1: the Journey from the sixth Triple Eight, Like a Bird
Speaker 1: from Sing Sing Me Camino from Melia Prez, and Never
Speaker 1: too Late from Elin John Never too Late? All right, April,
Speaker 1: do you have a want here? Okay?
Speaker 2: Again, I refuse to vote for Amelia Prez, so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with Elton John Steber Too Late, which is
Speaker 2: also my one. It was a good document.
Speaker 1: Never too Late, Okay. I think that's on Disney Plus here,
Speaker 1: because I think they did like they did the Dog,
Speaker 1: they did like a concert, and they did something else
Speaker 1: on Disney Plus Here. They did like a bunch of
Speaker 1: John stuff. I did that. I had no idea what
Speaker 1: it was anymore. But madd every year is.
Speaker 5: His last concert?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? I saw him on tour when it was
Speaker 1: his last concert, like before I had kids, and then
Speaker 1: it was still his life and that was at least
Speaker 1: seven eight years ago, so and maybe this is the
Speaker 1: last one. But Maddie, do you gotta want? If not,
Speaker 1: what's your prediction?
Speaker 3: No want? I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do like a bird, sing, sing.
Speaker 1: Like a bird. Okay, what about you, Mike?
Speaker 5: This has gotta be the worst collection of nominees for
Speaker 5: this category in oscar I've not seen all of the
Speaker 5: all the past ones, but it's gotta be like, how
Speaker 5: has kissed this guy from the Wild Robot not in there?
Speaker 5: Was it like not eligible for some weird reason or hell,
Speaker 5: even I'm not the biggest fan of the Challenger score
Speaker 5: put that that Compress Repress song in there. It's better
Speaker 5: than what you got here. Yeah, And I mean yeah,
Speaker 5: this is one of.
Speaker 1: Those years that make you almost like wonder if the
Speaker 1: Academy is like, do we need this category? Because they
Speaker 1: they didn't. They're not doing any the performances this year,
Speaker 1: so they even.
Speaker 5: Know a reason for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that. I think some of it was the
Speaker 1: Melia Press stuff as well too, but still I think
Speaker 1: there's like they know people aren't really into stuff this year.
Speaker 1: So I worry for the category's future because I feel
Speaker 1: like the original song is getting less and less, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like back in the nineties could be a
Speaker 1: huge selection. Now I feel like things just get nominated
Speaker 1: because like, well we don't even have that much, So
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, put that in there, like Amelia
Speaker 1: Press got too, so it's like there's no other song
Speaker 1: out there would have got the fifth lot.
Speaker 4: But before you answer, I'm curious to you, you and
Speaker 4: as well as Epra, what are your thoughts on both
Speaker 4: Amelia Press songs?
Speaker 3: They're bad, but both of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would even say these two are not even
Speaker 5: the best ones in the movie. And that's like a
Speaker 5: very very low bar of quality comparison. Like one of
Speaker 5: them is just like literally it's a they sing in
Speaker 5: karaoke like Slina gomezings in karaoke. The other one is
Speaker 5: there's a lot of wish for singing. It's it's just
Speaker 5: stun good. Yeah, eighty percent of the songs are whisper singing,
Speaker 5: and those that aren't don't make any sense for the plot.
Speaker 1: It's just completely whisper singing. That's good. That's like the
Speaker 1: how people describe the rock sing in the Mono movies.
Speaker 1: It's like talking singing.
Speaker 5: It's worse than the rock in the morning. Yeah, at
Speaker 5: least the rock brings energy to it. And we'll get
Speaker 5: to this a bit later. There's always Seldania at the
Speaker 5: very least is trying her best with the song she got,
Speaker 5: because I think she's a genuinely good singer, but she
Speaker 5: only gets like one song where she gets to do
Speaker 5: like a like a high note. If nothing else. The
Speaker 5: movie made me want to see her in an actual musical.
Speaker 5: But as far as my choice, it praysed to.
Speaker 1: Oh put me down for Elmo oh.
Speaker 3: As is that one of the Amelia Press songs? Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's the rationale behind that? I'm curious.
Speaker 5: It won all the other awards, and it's the.
Speaker 1: Best of the two that are there, So yeah, like
Speaker 1: I get, I'll probably go that direction too. Again. I'm
Speaker 1: just hoping this is not gonna screw me when I
Speaker 1: picked these Melia Press votes because because my I guess
Speaker 1: my hope is that the Academy, and my hope is
Speaker 1: a filmmaker and film fan, I hope it's not this.
Speaker 1: But my hope as an Oscar predictor, is that they
Speaker 1: are just semi hypocritically like whatever we're not because you
Speaker 1: always make the case right of the art from the
Speaker 1: artists and all this stuff right. But even then people
Speaker 1: tell me, like everyone I've not talked to a single
Speaker 1: person that I know personal I'm not telling kids that
Speaker 1: I know personally, whether other podcasters, you guys, any friends
Speaker 1: like that, think this is a good worthy addition. So
Speaker 1: that's what's so strange. But we've seen that many years
Speaker 1: with the Oscars. There's a movie or two, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, we're putting it in there for X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z. But yeah, I'll go el mall as well,
Speaker 1: just hoping that they, Oh I did not mean to
Speaker 1: give myself that. Oh my goodness, here we go. I
Speaker 1: went through bad hot keys. But yeah, I'll I'll do
Speaker 1: that as well. I'm hoping just for some points that
Speaker 1: it works out here.
Speaker 5: But Diane Warren will finally get her rosc this year.
Speaker 1: We can hope. Yeah, Like, what was it last year?
Speaker 1: That one and she was pissed. I can't remember what
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 5: Any of those songs.
Speaker 1: It was Barbie was Julipa's Barbie song? Is Dance the
Speaker 1: Night Away? I'm pretty sure right it was, yeah, because
Speaker 1: it was that in the Ken song. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember her not being happy about it. But because what
Speaker 1: song is she this year? She's uh, she's the one,
Speaker 1: isn't it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she ain't winn and saw Dan warning like the
Speaker 1: only one I thought, like I heard some other talk
Speaker 1: was maybe like like Ellen, John, your picks some bad.
Speaker 1: They're either like a bird. I feel like Sing Sing
Speaker 1: had a lot of hype to start, but it kind
Speaker 1: of went away. But that's not what I've still not
Speaker 1: seen that's really good. Is that the best picture.
Speaker 5: Nominally apparently a too for did a really bad job
Speaker 5: of marketing that they really pushed behind the Brutal List
Speaker 5: and they sing sing like.
Speaker 2: Fall yeah yeah, and then that's that's what.
Speaker 1: Spot Yeah, that's what those ways. So it's like strange
Speaker 1: Darling where I think it's technically like it was first
Speaker 1: doing festivals in like twenty twenty three, like it's been
Speaker 1: around for a while. Uh Sing Sing, But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I thought, maybe you could do it, But I
Speaker 1: guess not best original score The Brutalist Conclave, Emili Prez,
Speaker 1: Wicked and The Wild Robot and I'm up first, I
Speaker 1: don't like that.
Speaker 5: You got your heart picked?
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, I want to, but I just don't know,
Speaker 1: like for yeah, my want is Wild Robot. I legitimately
Speaker 1: like even in Golden Geeks that was like I'll spoil
Speaker 1: my vote. That was where I voted in the category.
Speaker 1: It's like, I love that wild Robot score. I think
Speaker 1: it just hits on so many levels. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot here, like merely a present Wicked obviously, anytime something's
Speaker 1: more musical, I feel like the voters lend that way conclave.
Speaker 1: I know, I am with Clay a little bit where
Speaker 1: the score sometimes is a little like it doesn't fit,
Speaker 1: but I like, yeah it is. But I like the
Speaker 1: score secluded though by itself, I do like the score.
Speaker 1: The Brutalist score I really like like next a while
Speaker 1: Robot Brutalist would be my pick. I really that's the
Speaker 1: thing I took the most away from it. But it's
Speaker 1: just like which which one do I go with? I
Speaker 1: don't know for the music because I feel like, what's
Speaker 1: its name, Wicked, it is gonna have to win some stuff, right,
Speaker 1: and I don't know where else it's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But I really like the Brutalists.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm torn between. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the harp I don't know. I really I gotta make
Speaker 1: a pick here. I'm just gonna go with the Brutalist.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that they're gonna I don't feel good
Speaker 1: about that pick at all. I have heard the second
Speaker 1: I say something, I'm like, oh I could, I could
Speaker 1: counter myself. Here's my thing is, maybe the Brutalist doesn't
Speaker 1: win a lot of other places, because I do think
Speaker 1: it has shifted a tab about best picture. I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it was the front runner and it
Speaker 1: got the oscar itis where it was like a star
Speaker 1: is born or La La Land, where it became the
Speaker 1: front runner too early and then everyone's like, well, what
Speaker 1: else is out there? But I do think the Brutalist
Speaker 1: is gonna win some stuff. But honestly, any of these
Speaker 1: I could see other than Conclave winning. But yeah, my
Speaker 1: heartpick would be while Rollbot. But I'm gonna make my
Speaker 1: official prediction the Brutalist. Mike, where are you at?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 1: We can get some love here from me.
Speaker 5: Interesting in fact, from Conclave is the guy who did
Speaker 5: the score for that. It's the same guy who wanted
Speaker 5: for all quiet on the Western Front, and I felt
Speaker 5: that was a weird choice for that year. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: as far as Wicked, I don't think it's gonna win,
Speaker 5: And honestly, I don't even really want it to win
Speaker 5: because it is just kind of like they're taking the
Speaker 5: actual songs from the Broadway show and just making like
Speaker 5: more of a musical roof on them to fit in
Speaker 5: the background, which is still good. It's just maybe for
Speaker 5: that reason it's.
Speaker 1: A little bit cheat too, because it's previously worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of like a Dune Part two thing, except
Speaker 5: we could mention to get in because it wasn't a movie.
Speaker 5: It was based on a plan. I didn't talk about
Speaker 5: the fact that I saw The Brutalist. I loved the
Speaker 5: score in The Brutalist, and I actually actually I saw Yeah,
Speaker 5: I saw it the first half two days ago, the
Speaker 5: last half of Actually, honestly, it's probably my second favorite movie,
Speaker 5: nominated for Best Picture behind Wicked. It's a movie I
Speaker 5: never plan on watching again, but the actual epilogue it
Speaker 5: moved me. I love the character stuff, the acting was great,
Speaker 5: and the score just made every part of it just
Speaker 5: like really like sing. So I one hundred percent want
Speaker 5: and will going with I think it's Daniel Bloomberg his
Speaker 5: name for The Brutalist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go, mad with you on the score.
Speaker 4: I'm on Brutalist as well. I loved it from when
Speaker 4: I saw the trailer. Honestly, it was one of the
Speaker 4: highlights for me. It got me a hype to see
Speaker 4: the movie. Just the score of the whole film was great,
Speaker 4: but just that that main theme that you hear from
Speaker 4: the trailer is it plays a couple of times during
Speaker 4: the movie and more it's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that is keid to winning this. Like
Speaker 1: you need a couple of those notes that are somewhat memorable, right,
Speaker 1: because you can have a great, big, sprawling score, but
Speaker 1: if you don't have that, which that's why I think
Speaker 1: kind of hurts like something like Wild Robot a little
Speaker 1: bit for me, where it's like a great score throughout,
Speaker 1: but there's not like a theme per se in a sense,
Speaker 1: but brutalist you have that like that, those heavy notes.
Speaker 5: So Trus come in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, April, what about you? I also have
Speaker 1: the it's a brutalist type of season.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now what about for We'll start off with
Speaker 1: live action short Lynn Anuja, I'm not a Robot, the
Speaker 1: Last Ranger and the Man who could Not remain silent, April,
Speaker 1: because you usually see maybe something that we haven't and
Speaker 1: you've seen.
Speaker 2: Any of these I have not seen any of these.
Speaker 1: Oh the bad intro though, of course the one time
Speaker 1: usually oh I saw this.
Speaker 5: On this one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, then you get to make a blind pick here.
Speaker 2: I'm going to the man who cannot remain silent.
Speaker 1: The man who could not remain silent. Okay, what about
Speaker 1: let's see live. I'm sure you're perfect. What about you, Maddie, I.
Speaker 3: Have action short give me I'm not a robot.
Speaker 1: You got it, you can have I'm not a robot.
Speaker 1: Let's see what is I wonder if that's even about
Speaker 1: like figures.
Speaker 5: I think it's about a woman who was trying to
Speaker 5: like pass one of those make sure you're not a
Speaker 5: robot like capture things. I think that's what it's about.
Speaker 1: Really, what about you, Matt, Mike, same again, all of them,
Speaker 1: we got you what you didn't remember that, you got Anusia,
Speaker 1: you got I'm not a robot, the last Rainer, last Ranger,
Speaker 1: and then the man who could not remain silent.
Speaker 5: You know what, let's make a different here for all
Speaker 5: of us. I'm going with the last Ranger.
Speaker 1: Nice, last Ranger. Okay, there we go.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what is.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do here because yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna pick something that you guys aren't gonna pick.
Speaker 1: So just looking at the posters here, see what I see.
Speaker 1: When I get a vibe here, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: a linn. It looks like it's like a you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a woman looking. They got the fucking selected,
Speaker 1: like the official selected things on there. As a filmmaker,
Speaker 1: now I know how important those aren't again, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take that. Please give you the download, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take that. So uh, makeup and hairstyling, we got
Speaker 1: a different man, Emila Perez nos Raw too, the Substance
Speaker 1: and Wicked. I think you could make a case for Wicked.
Speaker 1: You can make a case for nos Raw too, But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm feeling like the Substance just because
Speaker 1: I feel like that's another movie that might not There's
Speaker 1: a couple of places that could win, and obviously we
Speaker 1: got the DEMI pick, but there's the same thing where
Speaker 1: it could be like The Brutalist, where it wins one
Speaker 1: acting wins one other one and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: great stuff it's about. Look, So I'm just trying to think,
Speaker 1: because like what Coed you do of that I'm not
Speaker 1: for aw too is impressive, but I just feel like this,
Speaker 1: I think just because the substance is about changing your
Speaker 1: features and you have that stuff at the end, I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with and it's makeup and hair
Speaker 1: styling too, right, like both like they look tremendous, especially
Speaker 1: wh quality's playing like the fake version, like the outfits
Speaker 1: and the styling they give her, like, I think she
Speaker 1: stands out and pop. So I'm gonna give it to
Speaker 1: the substance as like a want and a pick. So
Speaker 1: that's my official prediction. Mike, what about you?
Speaker 2: Ah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I give us some thoughts on a wicked in
Speaker 4: this and in this category as well, where it's where it's.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's good makeup and hairstying in there,
Speaker 5: but I feel like that's probably like the Barbie pick
Speaker 5: from last year, where it's like it feels like a
Speaker 5: bit too obvious because of you know, the fact that
Speaker 5: it's a musical and the fancifle stuff about it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And usually in this category, I feel like in the past,
Speaker 5: they like want to give it to like movies that
Speaker 5: that Heck did more with less, and I feel like
Speaker 5: for here, that's the substance the nos Ferati was really
Speaker 5: good too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just even count Orlock alone.
Speaker 4: As I was gonna say, I feel like I want
Speaker 4: them to win just for that alone.
Speaker 3: But it's I.
Speaker 5: Feel like I want to they count like prosthetics and
Speaker 5: stuff for that or like if makeup counts, like it's
Speaker 5: like fake note, fake noses and all all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I think so I could, but I think so yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, I'm gonna be different again.
Speaker 1: I'll go Nosferatu as for ROTI okay, going with the NOAs.
Speaker 1: What about you, Maddie, Yeah.
Speaker 4: My want is like, like you mentioned nos Fratu, just
Speaker 4: for count Orlock alone, I feel like, I mean, they
Speaker 4: got the denomination, so at least I'm glad they got direcognition.
Speaker 4: But uh, I mean the substance is totally worthy as well.
Speaker 3: Just uh that blob creation at the end. The loan
Speaker 3: is equally as great. So I'm going to go to substance.
Speaker 1: What about you, April.
Speaker 2: I have much less faith in the Academy than you
Speaker 2: guys do, because I love the sas Ratu and the substance,
Speaker 2: but I don't think either one of them is gonna win.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with Wicked. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh really Okay, okay, that's another one good swing vote
Speaker 1: for you there, So okay, Wicked it is there. Okay,
Speaker 1: so maybe those three.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm happy with you those three winning it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like all of them except for like
Speaker 1: I get why Amelie President is in there, because like
Speaker 1: I don't, Okay, I guess, well, I just fought, like
Speaker 1: because it's like a lot with usually I feel like
Speaker 1: with musicals, there's a lot of makeup and a lot
Speaker 1: of like people look grander than they usually do. You
Speaker 1: like spooce them up because like, if you're on a stage,
Speaker 1: it's different because usually should backdrop, you't piece of wood
Speaker 1: stage and the people are over anime. But on film
Speaker 1: it's different because you got like a live breathing set
Speaker 1: so that people got a pop. So even like I've
Speaker 1: not seen the movie, but like I assume the character
Speaker 1: is Amelia Press. She has like the bright red jacket
Speaker 1: on the no, that's always who's the bright red business suit.
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like with those movies, they try
Speaker 1: to make them pop and they make you know, big
Speaker 1: blush makeup, and that's why I thought, Okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: picking it, but that's why. I could see why it was,
Speaker 1: but Mike says, no, it should even be.
Speaker 5: H I love that you assumed that you'd be wrong.
Speaker 1: Okay, damn, that's that's that's that's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 5: I think the reason the reason it's here is because
Speaker 5: they went down the list of movies and they saw
Speaker 5: Emila Perez there and he said, oh, I'm not naming
Speaker 5: that for everything. Let's put it there.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, and that happens that had there's
Speaker 1: reports that happened on Pitz yeah, or my friend worked
Speaker 1: on that. That was a big poper thing this year.
Speaker 1: But film editing Anora, the Brutalist, Colmclave, Amelia Perez and Wicked.
Speaker 1: I think this is the hardest one, really, Okay, April,
Speaker 1: you get to vote on the hardest one I have
Speaker 1: even Noorah, Okay, that's a good one, Noora. What about you, Maddie,
Speaker 1: I'm as well. Oh okay, Mike.
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking last year, Yeah, I saw, and I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't really feel like the editing of that movie
Speaker 5: stood out like that much. It pretty much takes place chronologically.
Speaker 5: There's a couple of montages, but if I'm being honest,
Speaker 5: the montages were my least favorite part of it, so
Speaker 5: that's why I have like a lesser feeling about it.
Speaker 5: But I think of the brutalist, and that reminded me
Speaker 5: a lot of the editing from Oppenheimer last year. A
Speaker 5: lot of different time periods are going through, not back
Speaker 5: and forth, but like you're jumping ahead a lot, you're
Speaker 5: interspersing the like archival footage throughout, and I really like
Speaker 5: the way they did that. So I'm gonna go with
Speaker 5: the brutalist, though I agree probably Honora's what I heard
Speaker 5: is the favorite, but just because I preferred the brutalist,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this is tough for me because both like
Speaker 1: I'm on a different side, but both with a Noor
Speaker 1: and brutalist, I enjoy them. But I could take out
Speaker 1: like obviously Brutalis very long, but like there's still stuff
Speaker 1: I could take oh even a Nora. There's stuff in
Speaker 1: the second act where I just kind of I always
Speaker 1: say like okay, I understand, I get, I get what
Speaker 1: we're doing here, and it just kind of goes on.
Speaker 1: So that's I'm actually gonna go with Conclave because I
Speaker 1: feel like one it's not gonna win much else, so
Speaker 1: maybe this is something give it and for me that
Speaker 1: movie is Kimera. Was it somewhere over two hours, but
Speaker 1: it flew by for me. Obviously we'll talk more and
Speaker 1: best picture, but for me just flew by. I think
Speaker 1: it has a good pace where at least even with
Speaker 1: the like Anora, you have big set pieces like the house,
Speaker 1: the invasion, and then the looking on the streets, and
Speaker 1: then like Brutaliss there's still some moments, some change of
Speaker 1: locations where Conclave is I don't know, ninety five percent
Speaker 1: just at one location and just the characters talking in
Speaker 1: different rooms. I think to make that, you know, flow
Speaker 1: really well and not feel boring, is it? That's to
Speaker 1: the editing. And I'm sure there's probably some dialogue scenes
Speaker 1: that maybe didn't work or were too long. So that's
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna go with Conclave. I just feel like again, also,
Speaker 1: I think it might not get at other places too,
Speaker 1: And I feel I feel like it's well at a
Speaker 1: movie conversation and I think what's his name right finds
Speaker 1: it's talking with lots of characters, but you never feel lost.
Speaker 1: I feel like they do a good portion of Okay,
Speaker 1: Tucci a couples of conversations that we're back to Stanley
Speaker 1: two chie a couple of conversations back. It's like a
Speaker 1: it's a very good pace, it's a good rhythm and stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's what I do want to bring up.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I saw it's ironic because I saw your
Speaker 4: score and Clave score for Conclave, and ahead of time,
Speaker 4: if I had to put money down, I would have
Speaker 4: betted that it would have been the opposite that you were.
Speaker 1: Maybe Conclave a final.
Speaker 3: Maybe not at two.
Speaker 4: But like I was happily surprised to see you like
Speaker 4: give it the reading you did, because, like I mean
Speaker 4: similar to me, I felt like you were in that
Speaker 4: same boat of like you, you heard all the hype
Speaker 4: it was getting, and it all school. It looks bit
Speaker 4: oscar beaty, and it's not necessarily subject matter that gets
Speaker 4: you hyped.
Speaker 3: You know, I have a similar like view of it.
Speaker 3: So I thought maybe you would have been not a two.
Speaker 3: I guess that's.
Speaker 4: Fair, but maybe a bit more lukewarm on it. So
Speaker 4: I'm glad that you enjoyed it to the extent that
Speaker 4: he did.
Speaker 1: Other than like Amelia Perez, which if I watch I'm
Speaker 1: sure usually I feel like most Oscar movies when they're
Speaker 1: nominally if I watch, I don't think I've ever failed
Speaker 1: them in like a long time, like even last year
Speaker 1: with Maestro, like I understood people's points, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: fail my stroke. I think I gave it like a
Speaker 1: like a three three and a half, like I thought,
Speaker 1: there's aspects well made and well acted. I think there's
Speaker 1: some stuff that wasn't. But usually Oscar fair, it's like
Speaker 1: it's at least a bare minimum of like okay, you
Speaker 1: can get a pass here. So uh yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: like but even the same thing with Conclave. I did
Speaker 1: enjoy it more than I thought. But I also don't
Speaker 1: know if it's like say, it's not like the Holdovers
Speaker 1: or the Holdovers like oh every Christmas, gonna watch that.
Speaker 1: I Conclave I may watch again in the future, but
Speaker 1: I'm not like, oh I got to see Conclave again,
Speaker 1: you know, like it didn't do that. So but no,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed a lot more than I thought. And also
Speaker 1: because it could also just be casting wise. I love Fines,
Speaker 1: I love lyft Goal, I love two Cheat like there's.
Speaker 5: A lot of fun Cardinal too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So to me, there's just like very good and
Speaker 1: I love seeing lyft Gow in that type of role.
Speaker 4: But they make it interesting too, you know, there's there's
Speaker 4: there's intrigue and stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and to me, I think that's a good
Speaker 1: because I think that's a tough conversation people don't have
Speaker 1: about like the idea of religion versus church versus state,
Speaker 1: like all this, Like it's a very tough situation. But
Speaker 1: costume design a complete a known conclave Gladiator two nos
Speaker 1: for aw too and Wicked to finally get any Claire too.
Speaker 1: I would personally like it to be nos for aw too,
Speaker 1: but I think Wicked's gonna get it here. I feel like,
Speaker 1: again there's many some places that won't win, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's a very flashy, very showy. Everyone's
Speaker 1: dressed the nines. It's great. It's a bunch of CGI extras.
Speaker 1: So I and like I said, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a bad win if that would happen, I think it's
Speaker 1: well deserved. So I'm gonna go with Wicked. And even then,
Speaker 1: I guess I want like I want no Osparazu the
Speaker 1: same thing. I guess it's just more like Victorian age
Speaker 1: sort of outfits. So it's like I think it's just
Speaker 1: maybe that's more me going to how it shot again.
Speaker 1: But the rest of these like, like, to me, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're like Glader two, like Conclave complete. I know,
Speaker 1: like Conclave looks great, but they got like the fucking
Speaker 1: blueprint of how to do that, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: that's like an easy one, like you have hundreds of
Speaker 1: years like and like I just feel like they could
Speaker 1: literally go to Vatican and be like, hey, could we
Speaker 1: have twenty five of your robes and like here it is,
Speaker 1: you know, and like a complete unknown like from what
Speaker 1: I've seen, like it looks like it's the times, but
Speaker 1: it didn't look like it was a stand up to me.
Speaker 1: So to me, this is like a if Wicked were
Speaker 1: to lose, I would be shocked, you know, other than
Speaker 1: maybe not brought to medium that I would be shocked.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Wicked.
Speaker 5: What about you, Mike, Yeah, I mean I thought Barbie
Speaker 5: had it in the bag last year and that I
Speaker 5: think it went to Poor Things, that's.
Speaker 1: True, Yeah, oh I did. Yeah, yeah, poor Things.
Speaker 5: Too kind of ostentatious like fits in those movies. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't understand why a complete unknown is there. I
Speaker 5: feel like that's like the last year the Kills of
Speaker 5: the flowerd WMD pic where it's like, well it takes
Speaker 5: place in the past and it looks good for the periods,
Speaker 5: let's just nominate it. But I know Wanton will definitely Wicked.
Speaker 5: The costume for Glinda, the cape billowing at the end
Speaker 5: for Alphaba, just phenomenal stuff.
Speaker 1: Put me down for that, man. What about you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to your point where the enough Sara
Speaker 4: two stuff, Count Orlock alone is a ten on ten
Speaker 4: even everything else, it's just that, like you said, you
Speaker 4: could fall back on the Victorian era era thing, but
Speaker 4: they still do it, you know, to perfection and just
Speaker 4: Count Orlock too looks freaking awesome. But I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: with Wicked, and I kind of wanted to win too. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I feel like it's it's a worthy winner in this category.
Speaker 1: What are you, April?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish it would be not sprout to you,
Speaker 2: but I think it's gonna be Wicked, Okay, Wicked.
Speaker 1: All around cinematography, we got the brutalist Dune Part two
Speaker 1: the Press, which is that one I can't like. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen, of course, but even though I look at
Speaker 1: him like, I don't know Maria and nos Farra to April.
Speaker 1: I think you might have a similar thing where you
Speaker 1: want Osra to win, But I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: your pick. But am I wrong? Is it? Is it?
Speaker 1: Get your pick?
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't think nos Roch is going
Speaker 2: to win anything, unfortunately. Yeah, but I'm glad it's in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't expect it to get in at all, So
Speaker 2: glad it's there. But I went with the brutalist.
Speaker 1: Okay, Maddie, what about you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the same train, brutalist.
Speaker 1: Mike, what about you.
Speaker 5: I'm so happy nos Fortu got in there. I think
Speaker 5: it is by far the best of those best cinematography
Speaker 5: of the year, It's just absolutely I am a dude
Speaker 5: is nominated, right, Yeah it is?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm a little conflicted because they have been
Speaker 5: showing Craig Frasier more love lately, but I is not
Speaker 5: enough to get him over the over the line this
Speaker 5: one because it wasn't for the Batman.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the brutal A stampy with a
Speaker 5: boring choice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, just quickly, do you remember if he was
Speaker 4: nominated for doing part one for cinematography, So.
Speaker 1: I think that year I think he won. Me do
Speaker 1: I still got the past winners up here, let me
Speaker 1: do it because that was that was like a COVID year,
Speaker 1: so there wasn't a lot of options for that. Back
Speaker 1: that's twenty twenty one, right, because it came or no.
Speaker 3: Twenty two or was it twenty one?
Speaker 5: But the Oscars played in twenty two?
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah it was Oscar nominations for twenty twenty two, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's see. Uh, let's see here cinematography where are you?
Speaker 3: Was he nominated for that?
Speaker 1: So he did win? Yeah, he won? And then it
Speaker 1: was the other categories were West Side Story or nominees
Speaker 1: West sid Storry, Tragedy, Macbeth, Power of the Dog, Nightmare Alley,
Speaker 1: and Dune. That's not one. I feel like they weren't
Speaker 1: going to give it to anybody, like I didn't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't see any of those like winning that in
Speaker 1: my opinion, and like maybe West Side Store, but the
Speaker 1: other ones I don't see.
Speaker 5: I see because he already won and it's a sequel
Speaker 5: that that's probably a guarantee he won't win this time around,
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to me that's like, uh yeah, because Mike,
Speaker 1: you picked the Brutalist as well, right, Yeah, And for
Speaker 1: me it's just like the shot of the year that's
Speaker 1: there is the post well I guess is the Empire
Speaker 1: State or the Statue of Liberty and it's flips.
Speaker 5: Such a great opening, Yes, best opening for a movie
Speaker 5: of the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think there's other great stuff with scale.
Speaker 1: I think there's other great stuff with imagery. I think
Speaker 1: they even there's stuff of I know it sounds dumb,
Speaker 1: but when Adrian Brody is outside, when he gets that
Speaker 1: place on the property and he's like drinking from that fountain,
Speaker 1: even just the outside area, I'm like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: shot well, like the colors pop, like just everything about
Speaker 1: where sometimes we see things like look at cat America,
Speaker 1: bravenew worl they're shoot outside You're like, why does it
Speaker 1: look like that? Yeah, like it's a sound stage. It's
Speaker 1: still like why does it look like like it doesn't
Speaker 1: look real? You know where Brutalis It's like even outside,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this looks fantastic.
Speaker 5: See at every scene like it's in movement. I love
Speaker 5: the Yeah, it's coming of a cliche the long takes,
Speaker 5: but there were some legitimately great long takes, especially at
Speaker 5: the end spoiler, but like the the confrontation at the
Speaker 5: dinner that was a yeah, oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just say it is like going up the stairwell.
Speaker 1: To me, it was like a man, that's like because
Speaker 1: even then it's like it's it's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: You can see like some of it's someone with a camera,
Speaker 1: but it like adds to the situation that's going on.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you mentioned the post or even the other
Speaker 3: post or the shot of of.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah sparks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, even the typeface. I know that's not cinematography, but
Speaker 5: the type face for the credits and everything, the way
Speaker 5: it looks like blueprints and stuff.
Speaker 2: A love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that's cool stuff. So uh, that's okay. So
Speaker 1: animated short film Beautiful Men in the Shadow of the
Speaker 1: Side Press, Magic Candies, Wander to Wonder that say that
Speaker 1: five times fast and yuck with an exclamation like that
Speaker 1: sounds like a club Stephan when I've talked about and
Speaker 1: on the s Nell skits, but I'm I have nothing here,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go with Beautiful Men again. Look at
Speaker 1: the poster looking nice, uh nice and a little depressing there,
Speaker 1: and I think they love that. So but I have
Speaker 1: not seen any of these. The shorts always get pagged on, so, uh, Mike,
Speaker 1: what about you?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Wonder to Wonder because I heard
Speaker 5: the plot for it and it sounds like weird as
Speaker 5: hell and I kind of like it. So it's like
Speaker 5: about if I got Crickically, it's like about like claymation
Speaker 5: characters like a kids show that come to life or something.
Speaker 1: Really okay, Yeah, so that's up my alley. So I
Speaker 1: got to check that out because I love clamation, so okay,
Speaker 1: put me on that. But then the wash list there, Maddie,
Speaker 1: what about you?
Speaker 3: Writing with my Montreal boy on this one? Why wander?
Speaker 1: All right, April, what about you?
Speaker 2: I also have Wonder to Wonder?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm alone. I should have should listen, but
Speaker 1: you know, Sugar Gone Last? Maybe, yeah, Sugar Last? Maybe
Speaker 1: this is my surprise vote though I pull ahead. So okay,
Speaker 1: so we got where's the anime film here? Okay? So
Speaker 1: animated film Flow, Inside Out to Memory, Memoir of a Snail,
Speaker 1: wals and Gramut, Vengeance, Most Foul, and a Wild Rollbot.
Speaker 1: The walls grown thing is a bug because it's so
Speaker 1: weird where it's like in the UK came out, but
Speaker 1: it come out here to that, so it's just like
Speaker 1: I have it on my letter box. I'm classifying as
Speaker 1: a two this a year movie, Like I know it
Speaker 1: was in the UK earlier, but so I peeple ask
Speaker 1: my letter box right now. Walson Grama is this year.
Speaker 3: But uh when was it released? It was December.
Speaker 1: It was a UK in its December, but North America
Speaker 1: not till this year. But it's already nominated for Oscars
Speaker 1: and it's a weird thing, Like I don't know how
Speaker 1: it got nominated for Oscars. Is I don't even think
Speaker 1: it was other than I guess some festivals. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was even out in the UK when the
Speaker 1: Oscar Norms were released, but I don't know. So, but
Speaker 1: what about you, April, What's what's your want? What's your prediction?
Speaker 2: So I think it'll probably go to the Wild Robot.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with my heart and go with flow.
Speaker 1: Oh really, okay, okay, what about you, Maddy?
Speaker 3: I'm going with flow as well. Will believe it or not?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, okay, going with my heart would mean going
Speaker 5: with Insight Out too, because I didn't known that. I
Speaker 5: really love that one. I think it's one of the
Speaker 5: better Pixar sequels, but that being said, it has almost
Speaker 5: no chance of winning.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Wild Robot because I feel like,
Speaker 5: with the exception of last year where they gave it
Speaker 5: to Miyazaki because you know, they wanted to underline his
Speaker 5: career again, they usually tend to be a little more
Speaker 5: safe about their animy of picks and go with the
Speaker 5: more wider released things. So I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 5: Wild Robot. I do plan on watching Wallace and Gromma eventually,
Speaker 5: and and Flow. I also hear good things about the
Speaker 5: Snail one, but yeah.
Speaker 2: I cried like a baby at Memoir of a Snail.
Speaker 5: I hear it's the pressing. Yeah, Wild Robots. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: saw it last week and it convinced me. It's damn
Speaker 5: damn good stuff.
Speaker 2: It's a good animated films.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I need to see Flow, so I can't say like, oh,
Speaker 1: these deserve it over that, but just from what I've seen, yeah,
Speaker 1: Wild Rebolts right, Wild Robot is my heart picked. But
Speaker 1: I just it's tough because I think I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Maddie is for Mike. You God damn m Montreal Boys.
Speaker 1: And I shouldn't have even the way I did the
Speaker 1: things I should have went Maddie a Riyan because I'm
Speaker 1: looking at just my Matt. Yeah I should I don't
Speaker 1: know why I didn't split you too, But so I
Speaker 1: think Mike's right. I just like Flow has won so much.
Speaker 1: Like I've had a struggle with this one because it's
Speaker 1: one a lot of other places. But yeah, where does
Speaker 1: it come down to. I'm not sure I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: aflow just because I think it's one a lot of
Speaker 1: other places, and I feel like maybe the animation, maybe
Speaker 1: it's a shift, and maybe there's some people that feel
Speaker 1: like wild Robot is very well, but like even like
Speaker 1: they're like like when Dylan talked about I think there's
Speaker 1: some people that appreciate it, but then like weren't blown
Speaker 1: away by it where me I was where I could
Speaker 1: see a lot of people like, oh, yeah, well Robot's
Speaker 1: really good. But Flow is different for X, Y and Z,
Speaker 1: so robots definitely close.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like a boy in the hair and
Speaker 5: Spider verse situation from last year where it's like forty
Speaker 5: five to fifty five could go either way. I just
Speaker 5: think this time, because flow does not have like like
Speaker 5: a lot of names around it, I think it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Go to a robot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think since it got international feature and animated that
Speaker 2: it might have a shot.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that at least it would Last year
Speaker 1: that Spider verse versus the the Boy and the Heir,
Speaker 1: and that did have like what you said, Mike, where
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, he might be retired, we're gonna
Speaker 1: honor him. Where this is doesn't have that. That's where
Speaker 1: it makes it a bit more harder. But speaking of
Speaker 1: another hard credit guer that I get to go first,
Speaker 1: they're in original screenplay at Nora. The Brutalists are real
Speaker 1: pain September five and the Substance. For me, I think
Speaker 1: this is a two horse race, and I'm very conflicted
Speaker 1: between a Noora and the substance. Again, I personally would
Speaker 1: go the substance. I loved the Noorra, but at the
Speaker 1: middle half for me, I just did not find as
Speaker 1: funny as other people. So it's just like for me,
Speaker 1: that's why I wouldn't give it there. But that is
Speaker 1: right up the alley of what best screenplay is for
Speaker 1: the Oscars. To me, it's usually a smaller film that
Speaker 1: has very snappy dialogue that is less about set pieces
Speaker 1: more about character moments. That is a noor to a t.
Speaker 1: But it's also like I'm playing the game of I
Speaker 1: could see because I don't care. We're gonna get too lare.
Speaker 1: I think Anora is the front runner for Best Picture.
Speaker 1: So it's that thing of like do they is it?
Speaker 1: You never know the Oscar. Some years it's like it's
Speaker 1: a sweep and one thing wins everything, or it's like
Speaker 1: let's you know, like let's go there, let's go there,
Speaker 1: and obviously they don't get together and vote, but it's
Speaker 1: just like a vibe that happens, right, and that same
Speaker 1: thing of like I could see a nor winning Best Picture,
Speaker 1: but the substance winging screenplay at won the whatever it's
Speaker 1: called the Palm de man or whatever, like some I
Speaker 1: can't remember it. It won the Screenplayward. Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: it's like that's obviously like something I should know, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna remember. There's too many
Speaker 1: award shows nowadays and stuff like that. I just know
Speaker 1: it won, like, hey, this is something you want to win,
Speaker 1: right and it won that, so I'm gonna oh God.
Speaker 1: But then the flip same thing. If a Noora doesn't
Speaker 1: win Best Picture, I would see people be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it here, So I'm gonna go safe.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Anora, even though uh, substance is my pick,
Speaker 1: and I would love Substance to make the upset and
Speaker 1: do it. That's why I forgot to mention it when
Speaker 1: we're talking about Isabelle Roseline. That's what surprised me about
Speaker 1: quality was if it was just Demi Moore getting the norm,
Speaker 1: I would have seen why. But the fact it's got
Speaker 1: like Best Picture direct ractors, I surprised quality was not
Speaker 1: in there. So clearly it has a lot of love
Speaker 1: so it could win. That's what I'm polling for. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a Nora just because I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people win a Noura, And there might
Speaker 1: be people that think the same way of like, oh,
Speaker 1: if it doesn't win Best Picture, at least it could
Speaker 1: get screenplay. So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with a Nora,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel good about it, so what you
Speaker 1: mike for your official prediction and want?
Speaker 5: So I haven't seen September five, so I can't really
Speaker 5: judge on that. I would actually say, as much as
Speaker 5: I love The Substance, it would probably be my least
Speaker 5: favorite of these four, just because I feel like the
Speaker 5: direction is really what makes that movie. That's fair direction
Speaker 5: and the acting, and because Corley wrote and directed it,
Speaker 5: I feel like her direction helped the script a lot
Speaker 5: more than if it would have just been the scripted itself,
Speaker 5: because there's not that much dialogue in it, and the
Speaker 5: problems I do have with it have to do with,
Speaker 5: like some of the inconsistencies with the way the stuff
Speaker 5: the Substance works. My favorite is The Brutalist because I
Speaker 5: feel like the dialogue is what makes that movie. It's
Speaker 5: a three hour movie that's essentially just people talking, especially
Speaker 5: with Guy Pierce's performance. There's a lot of good, you know,
Speaker 5: phrases and quotes from him, the way it feels like
Speaker 5: they're talking like an old style but Anura, because the
Speaker 5: way I watched Anora, it really felt like there was
Speaker 5: these actors improvising a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: More than I agree. Yeah, especially that one guy's like
Speaker 1: like it's a Sean Bearer classic where he gets a
Speaker 1: person that's not an actor, and I feel like those
Speaker 1: people have to be doing some improv, you.
Speaker 5: Know, and in real pain. It would probably be my
Speaker 5: second a favorite because again, a very script focused movie,
Speaker 5: some good dialogue there, a good character work. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to play it safe and say I
Speaker 5: feel like Anora is probably gonna win it. It's very
Speaker 5: close between that and The Brutalist, but I think Anora
Speaker 5: has the juice for it.
Speaker 1: So put me down for a nourra. Okay, Maddie, what
Speaker 1: about you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to Kirkland for September five. It's officially
Speaker 4: OSCAR nominated September five.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we got it. We got We don't got
Speaker 1: a Brutals review on the fee, but we do got
Speaker 1: a September five review, which now I know September five.
Speaker 1: I thought he was just an idiot not saying September fifth.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is he not calling it September fifth? Like,
Speaker 1: even though I do not wait, like saying September five
Speaker 1: sounds like it hurts my mouth to say September five.
Speaker 1: I imagine it's just like it's February twenty three today,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like it just doesn't feel right. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a Timber twenty just a five review. But Maddie,
Speaker 1: what you're going with, Yeah, shout.
Speaker 3: Out, shout out Kirkland. I'm gonna go with Anora as well.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be my pick. Some good some really good scripts.
Speaker 4: Mike touched on it, like movies like A Real Pain
Speaker 4: even this, I mean the substance, there's more to it.
Speaker 4: There's the makeup, there's the performances, but like, yeah, got
Speaker 4: Real Pain and the Brutalist it's you know, the script
Speaker 4: is huge.
Speaker 3: Man carries them.
Speaker 1: And some people might think this isn't worth a nomination,
Speaker 1: But I do think some of the part of the
Speaker 1: reason why something's got a nominated is just because like
Speaker 1: the pitch of what it is, Like I think it's
Speaker 1: just like when the Wild movies work of like it's
Speaker 1: like an elevator pitch and then like the screenplay is
Speaker 1: what it is. But it's because like the idea is
Speaker 1: so good, it's like, yeah, well that's what's carrying it
Speaker 1: to screenplay is Like I agree with Mike, there's tons
Speaker 1: of the director that's doing the heavy lifting. But I
Speaker 1: think that's why it's in here, is because it's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: that idea is great and you made it work, so
Speaker 1: we'll put it. You know, you get that nomination.
Speaker 4: So from when we saw that first trailer hit us, man,
Speaker 4: I think we all reacted to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the substance looks like something you know.
Speaker 1: Alright, April, are you going somewhere different? Are you joining
Speaker 1: the club?
Speaker 2: I'm going to join the club.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going to go with the noras. Okay, So now
Speaker 1: we go on the other side for adapted. That is
Speaker 1: a complete unknown Amelia Pereas Nickel Boys Singing Street and Conclave. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a couple of years ago, like you stole it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I sing sing so April, you are first on your
Speaker 1: predictions and your wants.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this is where Conclave gets some love.
Speaker 1: Conclave, Maddie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Conclave as well, all right, Mike.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think second only to Best Supporting Actor. This
Speaker 5: is a case where I feel like this writer is
Speaker 5: going there knowing he's living with his oscar. It's I
Speaker 5: mean that movie is Conclave is basically just like it
Speaker 5: relies on the the dialogues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we push things forward.
Speaker 5: It makes things engaging. It makes the politics of the
Speaker 5: papacy seem like a like a thrilling political thriller.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: So yeah, definitely definitely Conclave deserved and uh and getting it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost want to. I'm not gonna stand by
Speaker 1: my editing pick, but I kind of forgot it was
Speaker 1: adapted in here, so I would have uh because I
Speaker 1: think this is where will get some love. And because
Speaker 1: I don't know, like merely players haven't heard much. I
Speaker 1: justpect I've not heard much juice for these other ones.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like sometimes adaptive is like just really
Speaker 1: being there's tons of heavy hitters with this. I just
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like there's anybody else. And like
Speaker 1: you just said, Mike is a very dialogue heavy movie.
Speaker 1: That's where they're gonna go, kind of similar to Norris.
Speaker 1: I'll go with that one. Like I don't have a want.
Speaker 1: It's like I haven't seen a couple of these, So
Speaker 1: my just prediction is Conclave.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 1: Best actress in a supporting role Monica Barbaro in a
Speaker 1: complete unknown area on Grande and Wicked, Felicity Jones and
Speaker 1: the Brutalist is about was a Leini in Conclave and
Speaker 1: Zowai's al Donna Amelia Perez, I I might That's why
Speaker 1: I wish the SAG actors were tonight because in the
Speaker 1: other places she's still been winning awards. But with the
Speaker 1: SAG tonight, I think, like, if she wins it here,
Speaker 1: it's locked. But I also don't know when the SAG,
Speaker 1: like you brought up earlier, I don't know when the
Speaker 1: SAG acting ended, and that could have been earlier, right
Speaker 1: because a week before so.
Speaker 5: I think it was after the BAFTAs. The SAgs and
Speaker 5: the oscars I think were the only ones that voting
Speaker 5: ended after the Amelia Paris stuff came.
Speaker 1: Out, Okay, And that's where again I'm not gonna say,
Speaker 1: like with the conference, is not gonna say it should
Speaker 1: affect her. I'm just saying we've seen that in past
Speaker 1: where that happens right where I'm not. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get this film anything right. But Zoe's Aldonna is
Speaker 1: a great actress. I've not seen that like even the
Speaker 1: like I gotta see which ones I have seen here,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen known Grande Grande I'm fine with because
Speaker 1: I think she was the thing going to that movie
Speaker 1: that everybody was worried about. To me, that was always
Speaker 1: the like can she act? Can she do it? And
Speaker 1: even from what I saw, I was like, okay, no,
Speaker 1: she can do it. So yeah performance, Yeah, Flisty Jones
Speaker 1: I thought was also great as well. She had a
Speaker 1: really great, like under note performance. I feel like in
Speaker 1: a different year she could maybe win, but that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen this year. Yeah, Isabel Rosaline to me is
Speaker 1: the one that stands like not bad, but it's just
Speaker 1: like it's it's like the leal thing we're talking about.
Speaker 1: If there was a year where I couldn't name another person,
Speaker 1: I'd say, okay, fine, but like with Cawley, I could
Speaker 1: name her right like like I don't know, like I
Speaker 1: know it's maybe a hot take, but even the person
Speaker 1: that played like their niece and the brutaliss like, I
Speaker 1: feel like I had more of a stronger performance of her,
Speaker 1: and she had no dialogue till like the last hour
Speaker 1: of that movie. Like I felt like I got more
Speaker 1: from her than Isabel Rosaline, like just stuff like with
Speaker 1: the what's that guy's name? Who's the son of guy Pierce? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah he and I thought obviously I thought I did
Speaker 1: a great job like him and Guy Pierce felt like
Speaker 1: fathering something like the way they talk like but their
Speaker 1: little dynamic and how new with their eyes you could
Speaker 1: tell what was going on. So like there's multiple actresses.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of buzz about Jimmy Lee Curtis
Speaker 5: for the sugarl I thought she was gonna get it
Speaker 5: because she's a lot of attention towards the end, and
Speaker 5: a couple.
Speaker 1: Of other That's one where I heard buzz for her.
Speaker 1: I heard buzz for Batis in supporting, I heard buzz
Speaker 1: for Pamela, and it just like whatever, Yeah, And Sofia
Speaker 1: Copa's like directed multiple oscar on me. So it's not like,
Speaker 1: oh it's a newbie, you're not gonna check out. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like it sounds mean, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: I bet that people just saw Pamela on the post
Speaker 1: and just like wrote off of my pain, like they
Speaker 1: just sawm like eh, like or maybe it's not good.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm interested. It's on VOD so I'm
Speaker 1: hoping to see it this week. But yeah, so like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm gonna Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw it on theaters when it came out here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, it's okay. No, I'm I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see it, so yeah, I'll just go with Zoe. I
Speaker 1: just think if there was with Grande, they could But
Speaker 1: I think there could always be that, oh well, there's
Speaker 1: a part two thing out right, you can all like,
Speaker 1: and then that might not work out. It didn't work
Speaker 1: out for me with Fucking Dune Part two. Now looking
Speaker 1: at it, I would have had no way home one
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty one. But I'm like, uh, I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll be back, and we weren't, so now I'm
Speaker 1: on the side. But I still think there's things like
Speaker 1: that where people think, oh, if Grande is great again,
Speaker 1: we could give it to her if we wanted to,
Speaker 1: where it's always all Donna. She's been working for like
Speaker 1: since she's a team, like thirty years, and this is
Speaker 1: the first time she's never been nominated, not even just
Speaker 1: like like nominating she's lost, but she's never been nominated,
Speaker 1: and she's she's been like underrated actress for years. So
Speaker 1: I think this one is a it's a combo, right
Speaker 1: of I don't. I don't know about the performance. Everyone
Speaker 1: does say she's like the best thing. But I feel
Speaker 1: like I've even heard people say like she's not even
Speaker 1: as good as that, but she is. I think she is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's the thing where for me it's I think
Speaker 1: it's also it sounds weird because she's like still a
Speaker 1: young woman, but I think it is kind of a
Speaker 1: career thank you in a sense because she's been working
Speaker 1: for a long time and they've never honored her at
Speaker 1: any point. So yeah, I'm gonna say Zoe here for
Speaker 1: I don't have a want because I I don't have
Speaker 1: a strong feeling anyway. And like I said, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen a couple of these, so I will try to
Speaker 1: get there. But and that's only she is, legitimly the
Speaker 1: only reason I want to see Amelia Press just so
Speaker 1: I can. It's like a real pain. I haven't seen that,
Speaker 1: but I will watch it just to be Okay, I
Speaker 1: saw the guy who's one of the Oscar but I
Speaker 1: will go as always sell Dona.
Speaker 5: And that is to you, Mike, now, uh Okay, I
Speaker 5: got a couple of things to say about this. Okay,
Speaker 5: it breaks my heart. That's always Saldana is getting nominated
Speaker 5: for this movie because I really wanted to see her
Speaker 5: get a nomination for something that actually like, well, I
Speaker 5: don't want to speak for her, but that viewers could
Speaker 5: be proud to see her win for And yes, she
Speaker 5: is the best thing about the movie. That's not saying
Speaker 5: a lot. Uh Do I think she's gonna win? My
Speaker 5: mind is telling me probably. I think she's the only
Speaker 5: person that's gonna come out of the whole Amelia Perez
Speaker 5: thing unaffected, which I think she should be, because it's
Speaker 5: not her fault that all this this crap is happening
Speaker 5: in the movies she was in. That being said, I
Speaker 5: think Ariana Grande gave the best acting performance of the
Speaker 5: year in Wicked. I think her comedic timeh I was incredible.
Speaker 1: Support are in general in general?
Speaker 5: In general, I think my comedic performance was just absolutely incredible.
Speaker 5: And I was I was not anser beforehand because I saw,
Speaker 5: I knew what she was capable of, and I knew
Speaker 5: what the character was. I thought that she she's gonna
Speaker 5: nail that, and I was happy I was right, And
Speaker 5: this might be her only shot because Glinda is not
Speaker 5: as much of a big thing as in the second
Speaker 5: act as she's in the first act.
Speaker 1: So I think, though you know, a couple of actress,
Speaker 1: but I think especially for.
Speaker 5: The next Wicked, they're gonna want to push Cynthia Moore
Speaker 5: because she's going to be the really the main character
Speaker 5: was here. God it should have been nominated for Best
Speaker 5: Actress too. But that's another conversation about.
Speaker 4: I'm curious because you've seen the play, like, is there
Speaker 4: any factor of the Well, mind you it's it's it's
Speaker 4: an adoption.
Speaker 3: I guess we've seen that before.
Speaker 4: But like, how similar is your performance to the performance
Speaker 4: of the Broadway show, Like does that work against maybe
Speaker 4: that it's just kind of copying that performance or is
Speaker 4: it different.
Speaker 5: Well, every actress that plays the character kind of brings
Speaker 5: like their own thing to it. It's like the same
Speaker 5: archetype of the character. And then they do there the
Speaker 5: difference different things with it. And she just happened to
Speaker 5: really really nail it. I mean not not like any
Speaker 5: better or worse than like Christian chenow With or some
Speaker 5: of the other actresses, but she just did perfectly. So
Speaker 5: for that reason, I am one percent giving my full
Speaker 5: support give her this freaking Oscar already.
Speaker 4: So that prediction too, Yep, whoa, he's going freakly don't
Speaker 4: like what about because you mentioned Zoe like you know,
Speaker 4: obviously you don't.
Speaker 3: You said you don't like the movie about her actual
Speaker 3: performance like.
Speaker 5: It, she's good, she's just not oscar worthy, and it
Speaker 5: her singing is is blunted by the fact that the
Speaker 5: songs are not good and not don't like use utlize
Speaker 5: her voice, she her character, the same thing for most
Speaker 5: of the characters in that movie. Makes no sense. As
Speaker 5: far as motivations, the emotions behind it, I I really
Speaker 5: don't understand why it's getting elevated to the point where
Speaker 5: it is. So I won't be like angry if she
Speaker 5: wins just because I like Zoe. But as far as
Speaker 5: like other stuff, yeah, Also, Fistley Jones really good in
Speaker 5: The Brutalist. She doesn't get a lot to do as
Speaker 5: much as some of the other actresses, well more than
Speaker 5: ross Alini. But I would not be unhappy if she
Speaker 5: won too. But that's not gonna happen, so yeah, lock
Speaker 5: it in.
Speaker 1: Even then, when we talk about like someone just being
Speaker 1: in one scene, we talk about that dinner scene and
Speaker 1: Brutalist at the end, like that for me, the scene
Speaker 1: that stands up more than with with Roselini. But I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask with the thing with Amelia Prez that
Speaker 1: has happened early Awards season doesn't matter now because it's
Speaker 1: so far gone. They made their decisions. But I saw
Speaker 1: a lot of banter that like aren't there screen times
Speaker 1: all pretty similar because I saw people being like Zoe's
Speaker 1: on and should really be in lead.
Speaker 2: But they were in support frad Yeah, for sure, movie
Speaker 2: not as.
Speaker 5: Much as Ariana Grande is in Wicked, though I think
Speaker 5: she's the lead for the first half and then them, Yeah,
Speaker 5: she kind of disappears, but yeah, for the purposes of
Speaker 5: the Oscars, I feel like she would be a lead
Speaker 5: the actress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like the Oscars and this has
Speaker 1: been someone that's been like twenty five, like thirty maybe
Speaker 1: the whole time. I'd have to go back, but just
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, like unless they are different genders, they can't,
Speaker 1: like it's almost like they can't be two leads. Like
Speaker 1: they've rarely like I think they did that once with Departed.
Speaker 1: I think Departed had like day. I think it was
Speaker 1: like Nicholson Leo and maybe David maybe not, but like
Speaker 1: there's a few times they've had lead actors or lead
Speaker 1: act or like whatever. Supporting has a been different, but
Speaker 1: the leads particular, like you can have multiple leads, but
Speaker 1: they got to Yeah, I think nowadays they just go
Speaker 1: like no, unless it's male or female, there can only
Speaker 1: be one. And it's like, to me, it's like a
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's so easy. It's just like it's screened.
Speaker 1: It's literally screen time. It's literally just like who has
Speaker 1: the most amount of minutes?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, Maddie, what about you? Uh who are
Speaker 1: you going for supporting actress for your pick?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just quickly, so I haven't seen that complete unknown.
Speaker 4: I've only seen three of the five, you know, so
Speaker 4: it's tough just grading off the three that I've seen.
Speaker 4: I would my want would honestly be grande honesty, and
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have I would have never thought that. I
Speaker 4: probably like rolled my eyes when I saw that she
Speaker 4: was in it. But she she was, you know, she
Speaker 4: she transformed. It's her performance, you know, It's like you said,
Speaker 4: it's comedy, it's it's singing, it's the acting. So i'd
Speaker 4: actually want her to win again, not having seen Zoe
Speaker 4: and Amelia Perez, Felicity Jones is good.
Speaker 3: She has like some strong moments, but overall, it was strong,
Speaker 3: but I would.
Speaker 1: She's also on the first half of the movie too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tough for her.
Speaker 4: Yeah so, but just given like the way the awards
Speaker 4: have been going, like Zoe's the front runner, so I
Speaker 4: gotta go with Zoe's.
Speaker 1: A don Yeah.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's that Oscar surprise if nothing else this her
Speaker 5: being in the Oscar says made us finally know how
Speaker 5: to properly pronounce her name. It's always yeah, yeah, uh,
Speaker 5: April Sititer. Giving nothing to Amelia press is that's sticking here.
Speaker 1: I know, No, it's not.
Speaker 2: I forgot that. I did give them one. She's such
Speaker 2: a front runner, it's gonna go anywhere else. And she
Speaker 2: wasn't terrible and it's not her fault.
Speaker 3: The movie was.
Speaker 1: And that's how I feel about Like, that's that's how
Speaker 1: I like, I get A couple of years ago why
Speaker 1: I kind of get I still like the movie Green
Speaker 1: Book in the sense of I don't like I've never
Speaker 1: watched again, but like I liked it. I saw enough.
Speaker 1: That's what I never understood with Green Book, that people
Speaker 1: would just destroy it but then be like, oh, but
Speaker 1: I love Myhrscha. It's like, well, if you love mahrschaal
Speaker 1: le like there's something the movie does right, so even
Speaker 1: like like you don't like me, but you can still say, like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's always so good and it's that's the same thing
Speaker 1: with all LEI. It's like Marshall Lee is fucking great
Speaker 1: in Green Book. That's a great performers.
Speaker 5: I was stand that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me it's like I never understood like
Speaker 1: I understood portions, but like you can steal some great
Speaker 1: pieces in a movie if you don't care for it, right,
Speaker 1: Like That's that's why I like The Letters has the
Speaker 1: five system, so I'm fine, But that's why I like
Speaker 1: the ten system because I just like have more versatility
Speaker 1: and rating. If there's a few more things I like,
Speaker 1: But the movie might not be great. But acting in
Speaker 1: a supporting Roy Got Yuri Bosov and Anora Karen Culkin
Speaker 1: in a Real Pain, Ever Norton, Complete Unknown, Guy Pierce
Speaker 1: in The Brutal List, and Jeremy Strong and The Apprentice,
Speaker 1: I've not seen a Real Pain or Completely Unknown, so
Speaker 1: I can't go in there. Actually doesn't matter because April's
Speaker 1: going first, so she gets to say it. But I
Speaker 1: think I feel like we all have this one. Who
Speaker 1: are you picking?
Speaker 2: So I feel like it should go to Guy Pierce,
Speaker 2: but I think it's gonna go to Karen Colgan.
Speaker 1: What about you, Maddy.
Speaker 4: I'm similarly again, I haven't seen Norton. I'm a big
Speaker 4: Edward Norton guy. I haven't seen that performance. I'm sure
Speaker 4: he's awesome in it.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen.
Speaker 4: I saw a bit of The Apprentice, So yeah, I
Speaker 4: thought Guy Pierce was awesome too.
Speaker 3: Man, I just watched a bootle list. I thought he was.
Speaker 4: It's a little one no times, but it's it's an
Speaker 4: awesome performance. Actually, just very quickly, did they ever answer
Speaker 4: what happens to him? Because he kind of just okay.
Speaker 4: I think it's a safe assumption, but yeah, I just
Speaker 4: I was wondering if he ever was, Like I was
Speaker 4: wondering if I owned that would be I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: with Kieran Culkin, Travis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Maddie, Mike, Mike, No, you get to Maddie. You
Speaker 1: get the second place.
Speaker 5: Mike, Uh yeah, echoing which you Guy said, it should
Speaker 5: one hundred percent be Guy Pierce. I think he gave
Speaker 5: probably my second favorite performance of the year.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Just such a great villain. Unpredictable, the way he was
Speaker 5: just spinning out that dialogue.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 5: And the thing about Kieran Culkin is, for anyone who's
Speaker 5: seen uh, Succession, I feel like the consens consensus seems
Speaker 5: to be like, Yeah, he's basically just playing a variation
Speaker 5: of his character from Succession, which he does very well.
Speaker 5: And again this is category fraud because I think, even
Speaker 5: more so many others, he is the lead character of
Speaker 5: real pain. The movie opens and closes with him. I'm
Speaker 5: pretty sure he has more screen time than just the Eisenberg,
Speaker 5: doesn't that movie.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating.
Speaker 2: Definitely pretty close.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, very close. And but and he's also like
Speaker 5: the central like subject of it. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: he's won everything, so I'm not gonna deny that he's
Speaker 5: not gonna win. He's definitely gonna win. So pretty down
Speaker 5: for Kean Culkin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this one is just so I'm going as well.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, I will, I haven't had much
Speaker 1: of a rush to see it. And yeah, I was surprised,
Speaker 1: Mike you still put guy Pierce. I thought you were
Speaker 1: you were like one of the biggest defenders I've heard of.
Speaker 1: Like it's still like even if it's similar, succession is
Speaker 1: still like a great performance. I feel like that's the
Speaker 1: knock against it. But like that's that's what is odd
Speaker 1: about it, and it's just I was just surprised that,
Speaker 1: like so early on he was like deemed like he's
Speaker 1: the guy and he's not lost anything, and like even
Speaker 1: then it kind of came like out of nowhere. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it's just people really like secessions, so
Speaker 1: and it came over and did a similar performance, like
Speaker 1: let's give that, Like, yeah, I would love it, Guy Pierce,
Speaker 1: because I that was my letterbox review where I don't
Speaker 1: I was. I grew up where Adrian Brody won for
Speaker 1: the Penis and they did King Kong and then he
Speaker 1: was gone for like ever, and then I grew up
Speaker 1: with Guy Pearson Memento and like, uh, The Time Machine,
Speaker 1: which it's a bad movie, but I love The time Machine,
Speaker 1: like it's a great like b rate, you know sci
Speaker 1: fi movies, Like I grew up with those two, and
Speaker 1: then in the twenty tens they were in some like
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, but like.
Speaker 3: Adrian Machine, I remember that one too.
Speaker 1: It's so good. Yeah, But then Adrian Brody was in
Speaker 1: like something like Cell Block B with like Force Whittaker,
Speaker 1: where they're like like they're being experimental experimented on in prison,
Speaker 1: like it's saying the Guy Pierce he was like he
Speaker 1: was gonna.
Speaker 5: Ground Buddhest and Adrian Brody.
Speaker 1: I love them now, yeah, yeah, and that's who was
Speaker 1: keeping him alive. Was like in the mainstream roles was
Speaker 1: Wes Anderson and Guy Pierce like he was like a
Speaker 1: villain and a Liam Niese and like action or like
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying these guys should be in like
Speaker 1: fucking Glenn pal levels, but I never understood where they went.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think, yeah, this is the same thing
Speaker 1: I've not seeing. We don't know well, but I would
Speaker 1: have liked Guy Pierce to get it here. I think
Speaker 1: would have been a good kind of like comeback moment.
Speaker 1: And even then though Jeremy Strong, I'd make a call
Speaker 1: like have the succession boys, Like I feel like there's
Speaker 1: some successionisms there too. But that last act and Apprentice
Speaker 1: when he's sick, it's not supol because he's like he's
Speaker 1: a real life Ferston when he's sick. There's some really
Speaker 1: tough acting going on in a good way. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't forget about Guy Pearce and Agent Brody anymore.
Speaker 1: Like I want to see Nolan get back with Guy Pierce,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to see Adrian Brody and some
Speaker 1: stuff like they should not be just doing like streaming
Speaker 1: movies anymore. I don't know where they went the past
Speaker 1: ten years, and for me it's a hot take. I
Speaker 1: don't understand all why Leonora ones there. I think he
Speaker 1: was good, but the whole it was one of those
Speaker 1: where I'd heard the buzz before saw it, and I like,
Speaker 1: I like the guy that plays the annoying husband more
Speaker 1: than him.
Speaker 5: I want to ask all three of you guys that
Speaker 5: do you think they should have nominated him? Because I
Speaker 5: will say he did a good job of making me
Speaker 5: just fucking hate the most punishable character on screen. But
Speaker 5: is that like the sign of a good performance.
Speaker 1: I think so, because when I've seen interviews in real life,
Speaker 1: he's not like that. So that's why it's it's like
Speaker 1: the same way for me. I always like put Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackman or Margaret Robber like when you're talking about comic stuff,
Speaker 1: I put them higher than like Ryan Reynolds or Downey
Speaker 1: because it's like I love Downey's Iron Man and I
Speaker 1: love Renelds Deadpool, but it's like that's still just them
Speaker 1: being them, you know. Or Hugh Jackman is not Wolverine.
Speaker 1: He does not He's not a fucking prick. He's not
Speaker 1: a tough guy. Like, he's a jovial guy who likes
Speaker 1: to sing and dance, like like they're completely different. So
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with that performance, where in real
Speaker 1: life he's not like, oh fuck, like he's kind of
Speaker 1: slimy and I get it, like yeah, and not saying
Speaker 1: the other guy is like a bodyguard or anything, but
Speaker 1: just he felt like it was a good performance. But
Speaker 1: I just it did not stand out to me. I'm
Speaker 1: so surprised he's no.
Speaker 5: More soul Like I feel like, like you saw him
Speaker 5: and you feel like there's something going on with that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just didn't think it was like nomination level.
Speaker 1: Like already in that same movie, I could point to
Speaker 1: an actor being like that. I would pick up whatever
Speaker 1: the guy Joe Alben no no, no, not brutalist like.
Speaker 3: You to him.
Speaker 4: I was just looking made this put this guy into
Speaker 4: running for James Bond, and he's got a good look
Speaker 4: I just put him in the chest.
Speaker 1: He's not British, so I don't.
Speaker 3: Though you mentioned him before he was, he was. He
Speaker 3: was good and brutalist as well.
Speaker 1: The only thing I knew about him was that he
Speaker 1: was Tai Swiss X at one point. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing I knew. Yeah, yeah, because but I've seen him.
Speaker 1: It's funny though, because he was in kinds of Kindness
Speaker 1: then he was in this so he's definitelyetting typecast is
Speaker 1: just like the complete piece of ship person who's also
Speaker 1: I guess like an assaulter too because in both movies
Speaker 1: he's doing that. So but saying like that performance, that speed,
Speaker 1: that conversation he has with Brody when he's like a
Speaker 1: little tipsy, he like, I think that was my favor
Speaker 1: dynamic of the movie, was him being super friendly but
Speaker 1: then always taking these shots and Agent Brody just having
Speaker 1: the pride not to say anything, but you could tell.
Speaker 1: And Brody was great in those moments, like holding back,
Speaker 1: like I put him over the anor guys again. And
Speaker 1: I hate saying that because the guy I think did
Speaker 1: well enough job, like not bad at all, but it
Speaker 1: was just it's an It's like the whole supporting actor.
Speaker 1: One for me this year is it's an odd bag.
Speaker 1: But I feel like that was not that it was odd,
Speaker 1: but last year with I can't remember her name and
Speaker 1: it's Devine.
Speaker 5: From holding Joey Randalls.
Speaker 1: Yes, I had no problem with her winning, but it
Speaker 1: was the same thing. She won everything. It was like
Speaker 1: from the beginning it was. So it's like, it's funny
Speaker 1: with supporting the last couple of years, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's becoming a category that is very it's it feels
Speaker 1: like the leads are way more unpredictable, where I feel
Speaker 1: like a decade ago it was flipped. It was always
Speaker 1: lead actor and actress. We know he's winning. It's the
Speaker 1: supporting that was a surprise, and now it's it's pretty set.
Speaker 5: I think I started with JK. Simmons and Whiplash. She
Speaker 5: was the guy who I thought he had it, like
Speaker 5: locked him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then ever since then, it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, anytime Waltz was in there, you knew he
Speaker 1: had it, you know.
Speaker 4: So for supporting, I'm curious on the guy who got
Speaker 4: nominated for a noura.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like if I would have like similar to
Speaker 4: your experience, if I would have known going in, Like
Speaker 4: if I had heard the hype and that he got
Speaker 4: nominated and then I saw the performance, I would have
Speaker 4: felt like, okay, that was I might have felt a
Speaker 4: bit underwhelmed too, but not that I when I left
Speaker 4: that screening, I didn't. I didn't immediately assume all, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was an Oscar performance, but like he was definitely
Speaker 4: a character that that stood out for me, just that
Speaker 4: he brought He just brought that heart to.
Speaker 3: The movie, you know.
Speaker 4: So, But again similar to what you said, if I
Speaker 4: would have heard that buzz and heard he got nominated,
Speaker 4: I might have felt a bit under round by it.
Speaker 3: But like just watching it completely blind, I've never seen
Speaker 3: this guy. He stood out.
Speaker 5: He was in the last scene, which is like one
Speaker 5: of the best acting scenes in the movie.
Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah, And I think I think that scene
Speaker 1: is because it is the lasting Les oppression. You leave
Speaker 1: with those two.
Speaker 3: So I love the scene of them.
Speaker 4: The one I think of is of them in the
Speaker 4: living room together and they're just smoking and talking at
Speaker 4: night like that.
Speaker 5: The whole last fifty minute. This is really good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, best actress, this is a tough one.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: You got Cynthia reviw and wicked Carlosavia Gascon for Emilia Perez,
Speaker 1: Mikey Madison for Nora Demi Moore the Substance, and then
Speaker 1: Fernana Taurus for I'm Still Here to go first. And
Speaker 1: this was the toughest, same thing with so yesterday, even
Speaker 1: with the Golden Geeks one. I started to vote and
Speaker 1: then I closed the browser. I gotta come back because
Speaker 1: this was I came to that. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know who I'm voting for. I'm not going to reveal
Speaker 1: to that cast this. I can see both sides. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to think of, Like it's so tough because
Speaker 1: it's Oscar history versus Oscar history. If you look at
Speaker 1: acting an actress, they usually like to give an older
Speaker 1: male the actor of like I don't know why, it's
Speaker 1: just like a accomplishment, you've done it. And then if
Speaker 1: you look at best actress, it is like a plethora
Speaker 1: of very young starlet's like not starting their career but
Speaker 1: more in like late twenties thirties, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just just something I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is. But then there's the career thing of oh
Speaker 1: the career Oscar right, and that's what I literally think
Speaker 1: it is. It's Mikey Madsen, who is like everyone's projecting like, hey,
Speaker 1: she's gonna be the next Jaylaw, She's gonna be the
Speaker 1: next girl that's in everything, Big Star. And then he
Speaker 1: got Demi Moore, who like, I think this is it,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I hope not, but it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know if this can happen again, for because she
Speaker 1: said this is the first time she's been nominated in
Speaker 1: her whole career, and she's like she wasn't nominated for Ghosts,
Speaker 1: like fucking Whoopy Goldberg won for Ghosts, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying like Whoopy was bad, Like she wasn't nominated for
Speaker 1: a few Good Men or Gijane, Like there's nothing in there,
Speaker 1: like a decent proposal, Like there's nothing that I was
Speaker 1: shocked by that. So it's like this is I don't know,
Speaker 1: And even this is the same thing too before now
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I go with what I want. I
Speaker 1: think they're like for me when I put my phone
Speaker 1: Golden Geeks, it's like a fifty one forty nine. I
Speaker 1: think they both do things amazingly well. They both and
Speaker 1: it's very, very different roles. You know, it's aging starlet
Speaker 1: who's bitter versus like young rising you know, stripper who's
Speaker 1: like having the timer life and everything's crashing right, But
Speaker 1: both their characters' lives do crash the end, o' see.
Speaker 1: I feel Lenora has a better route to a successful
Speaker 1: life than.
Speaker 2: Character.
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty shut and closed. But so for me,
Speaker 1: this is one where whoever wins, I'll be happy for them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna it's and Honora has that thing going, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna And that's why I wish say had already happened,
Speaker 1: because I feel like that'll be a big determinator. But
Speaker 1: the even in Mikey, she's been winning some stuff, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with more. I think the career is
Speaker 1: gonna go there. I think Moore is generally well liked
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, which people won't care about, but like that
Speaker 1: plays a role into it. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff with her, like taking care of Bruce Willis the
Speaker 1: past few years. I know people think that's dumb, but
Speaker 1: like I could see a lot of the older Holly
Speaker 1: being like you know what, like Demi's a really good
Speaker 1: person who won putting a great performance and just like
Speaker 1: has had a tough few years. I'm gonna give it
Speaker 1: to her. I'm completely fine at that when it's like this,
Speaker 1: when it's like for me, it's like a deadlock tie
Speaker 1: of like, and I think Mikey's gonna be here many
Speaker 1: like I think many it's I think she's gonna make
Speaker 1: Emma Stone where Mastone won for Law of Lamb but
Speaker 1: then she won for Poor Things five six years later,
Speaker 1: Like I think Mikey will be back in this category
Speaker 1: and winning it. But maybe this is the start. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm gonna go more. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about it because I feel like
Speaker 1: easily Mikey could Mikeye because she like because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Moore still has to share some
Speaker 1: screen time with Margaret where no, there's other characters, but
Speaker 1: like a Noor is the character that she It is
Speaker 1: a full start to finish her story. She's in practically
Speaker 1: every scene. So so you could make that ar argument
Speaker 1: to that. Oh, I'll give it a Mikey because she's
Speaker 1: in it more. But that's a tough one. So my
Speaker 1: want doesn't matter as long as one of those two.
Speaker 1: But uh, I'm gonna pick more as my official prediction. So, Mike,
Speaker 1: where are you on Best Actress?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Well, I'll talk about Cynthia Evill first because I think
Speaker 5: great and Wicked. Yeah, but I feel like they're probably
Speaker 5: gonna want to save her for Wicked for Good because
Speaker 5: her character plays a lot more to that one. Hopefully
Speaker 5: next year there'll be a easier path for her to
Speaker 5: win that, but it really is, yeah, fifty to fifty
Speaker 5: between Demi Moore and and Mikey Madison. It's kind of
Speaker 5: like Emma Stone and Lily Gladstone from from last year,
Speaker 5: where like I forty nine fifty one percent. That's constantly shifting,
Speaker 5: And I would say that the oscars usually tend to
Speaker 5: prefer the narrative, except for the case with with the
Speaker 5: Best Actor for oh man, oh how can I not
Speaker 5: remember his name? A black panther?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, so that that failed, But in this case,
Speaker 5: I feel like they're gonna want to give it to
Speaker 5: Demi Moore. I'm I'm still shocked she's even being talked
Speaker 5: about for awards for that box and like, because I
Speaker 5: thought it was definitely not an Oscar performance, I would
Speaker 5: look at it.
Speaker 1: So is that how many years that we had like
Speaker 1: this is so surprising because it's it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: these are the three Poli shows like Tony Klette, Hereditary,
Speaker 1: Florence Pugh, Midsimar and Lapadia along on us. And that's
Speaker 1: where it's always like every year we had this great
Speaker 1: performance by leading lady in a horror movie. But because
Speaker 1: it was a horror movie, it's like, no I even
Speaker 1: talk about it all, like it wasn't even another category.
Speaker 1: So I'm the same thing as you, Mike. I thought No,
Speaker 1: I thought gold and Globe. That's different because there's ten nominies,
Speaker 1: really right, they get split they like celebs more there,
Speaker 1: so like, okay, I can see her getting it for
Speaker 1: the Golden Globe, but the Oscars, I was shocked that
Speaker 1: I've shocked anything substances in here, maybe other than like
Speaker 1: hairstilent makeup, Like oh yeah, I give the horror film
Speaker 1: like their fucking like weird makeup award. But like, I
Speaker 1: did not think all this stuff, so.
Speaker 5: It to me again, it's like a michell yal for
Speaker 5: everything ever at once, where she had a long career
Speaker 5: of doing really really good work and finally they gave
Speaker 5: her her time to shine in that and it's from
Speaker 5: another movie that I was shocked the Oscars actually paid
Speaker 5: attention to. So for that reason, I feel like for
Speaker 5: this particular category they would lean more towards that direction.
Speaker 5: So I'm going to mean more as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's two for more, Maddie, where are you more
Speaker 1: and More?
Speaker 4: I'm so I'm so torn on this, like it's it's rough.
Speaker 4: Oh man, So we have two of you guys, are
Speaker 4: both on more or both on More?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And are you in the same boat that you
Speaker 1: don't really have a preference between the two? You kind
Speaker 1: of like them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 4: That's why I kind of I kind of hate picking
Speaker 4: it too, because well, my I mean, either way, I
Speaker 4: guess it will.
Speaker 1: I'll be happy either vote for going Geese too, So
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pick again later on.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Demni Moremore, all right.
Speaker 3: Mikey's awesome. If she wins it, I'll be more than happy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, April, do we have a fourth year.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna go with Nike. I want DeBie Moore
Speaker 2: to win, but I just don't have any faith in
Speaker 2: the Academy to vote More and more. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: this year's other horror performance that was Oscar where they
Speaker 2: would be Lily Rose Depp in aspora.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was really hoping she was going to get here,
Speaker 1: and they also would have never done it either too,
Speaker 1: but like Diami Scotne smile too. It's like also incredible,
Speaker 1: like it's just like good stuff. But yeah, Lily Shadow too,
Speaker 1: Yeah again all the whole because I would like, I've
Speaker 1: not seen him from Strange Darling. Will Fitzgerald was fantastic Lily.
Speaker 4: Lily has one of my favorite scenes all year of
Speaker 4: the scene towards the end with her Nicholas Holt where
Speaker 4: she kind of starts, yeah, like ripping at him and
Speaker 4: that that seems so good.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him other Perez, but you could have
Speaker 1: could have. It would have saved you a lot of
Speaker 1: headache to change that up. And then like I'm still here,
Speaker 1: like is that like, yeah, no, I've heard great things
Speaker 1: about it. He's yeah.
Speaker 5: I think her mother was either nominated or one the
Speaker 5: Oscar too, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah I think so. Yeah, So okay, we'll see and
Speaker 1: then so for we're in our last four categories. Here
Speaker 1: for Best Actor, Adrian Brody, The Brutalist Tinothy Shall make
Speaker 1: Unknown Coleman, Domingo and sing Sing Ray Fines and Conclave
Speaker 1: and Sebastian stand for the Apprentice, April, who's getting it?
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Adrian Brody A Brady?
Speaker 1: Would he be your want as well? In this?
Speaker 2: I think i'd probably go Timothy Shallow may oh to me, Okay,
Speaker 2: there you go. I think Adrian Brody is gonna win
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Maddie, what about you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: My, I mean again, I haven't seen Challow me, I
Speaker 4: haven't seen do Mingo. I love the Mingo and even
Speaker 4: Sebastian Sansol I forgot about. Yes, the pickings here for me,
Speaker 4: but with what I've seen, my wants and my prediction
Speaker 4: would be Brody as well.
Speaker 1: M h what will you, Mike?
Speaker 5: I feel like, Yeah, Domingo, he's he's quietly racking up
Speaker 5: the record for like most denominated actors to not win,
Speaker 5: because last year he was for Rustin Too, right, Yeah
Speaker 5: he was, yeah, yeah, yeah, he always seems to because
Speaker 5: he like his movies don't like get a lot of attention,
Speaker 5: but he always stands out from them. So that's cool
Speaker 5: to see. Honestly, Of those five, the one I would
Speaker 5: probably I'm gonna kind of be like the oscars here.
Speaker 5: The one I would probably want to see more for
Speaker 5: a career reason would be uh Fines, I'm saying boat
Speaker 5: as you man. Yeah, I feel like he should have
Speaker 5: gotten it for grand pretty best hotel. That was like
Speaker 5: an absolutely amazing performance. Uh, and him getting it getting
Speaker 5: in here, I feel like would still be pretty deserved.
Speaker 5: But I would also not be mad if Adrian Brody
Speaker 5: got it too, because he is good and funny. How
Speaker 5: that that AI controversy did not touch the brutalist at all,
Speaker 5: Like the brutalists should be happy the Perez controversy cub
Speaker 5: because no one's talking about the plus AI. We're getting
Speaker 5: more and more news stories. That's becoming a regular thing.
Speaker 5: So it's I don't I feel like people are gonna
Speaker 5: lose that fight, the ones who don't want to see that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Adrian Brody was great to zaccent, the emotionality
Speaker 5: he put into the performance. Yeah, I love the minute,
Speaker 5: so I'm picking him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah with the AI stuff, that's completely like the
Speaker 1: Hollywood doesn't care that this show like it was nothing
Speaker 1: and it's gonna win and say, okay, well let's hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess he didn't even find didn't even get nominated
Speaker 1: for Graham Brudepest Hotel. That's crazy, that's a shame. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's that same year I talked about with Eddie
Speaker 1: Redman being Keaton, so I would I would have taken
Speaker 1: him over red Man as well. So but yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: in the same boat. Feels like bro it's just the
Speaker 1: huge front runner. Again. It feels very similar to me.
Speaker 1: Is like Caulkin, where I'm kind of surprised, Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's an actor. I felt like Hollywood kind of forgot
Speaker 1: about and I was like, yeah, he won Best Actor.
Speaker 1: But now he's just doing what he's doing. But he
Speaker 1: says and he is very powerful. I'm like Maddie where
Speaker 1: I've not seen all these like I really want to
Speaker 1: see sing sing because all the clips we see him
Speaker 1: Coleman look great And yeah, no, I think Brody is fantastic.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I will still say that. I think
Speaker 1: in a stronger year with some other heavyweights, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he would win for sure. Like I don't
Speaker 1: think he's like the best actor performance I've seen in
Speaker 1: the past ten years, but I think he is fantastic,
Speaker 1: and I think that that movie's on his shoulder, So
Speaker 1: I think he does a great job, like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I'm with Mike, where with Ray Fines especially, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of scenes to love where John Lift goes like, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pretend to happen, and then he walks away say,
Speaker 1: but it happen. Like I love that he snaps a
Speaker 1: few times. I feel like they just need to give
Speaker 1: him one more flash. He's seen him. Maybe he could
Speaker 1: have been talked about more, because other than a few times,
Speaker 1: it's a very understated. He has like steered the ship
Speaker 1: of all the priests becoming like so it's almost like
Speaker 1: all these other people are being a bit more flashy.
Speaker 1: So maybe one scene, like even the last scene, one
Speaker 1: last thing is the movie when the person that does
Speaker 1: become the pope, Like I think that's them controlling the scene, right,
Speaker 1: and that's their big moment. So it's that thing where
Speaker 1: it's like, I think he needed one more big moment.
Speaker 1: But his big moments are very understated, like with the
Speaker 1: turtle or with the ending with the noise that he's
Speaker 1: like hearings is like it's it's all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: would have loved Ray Fines because I feel like he's
Speaker 1: gonna be like Defoe. He's gonna be like one of
Speaker 1: these actors that passes and we're never gonna like, he's
Speaker 1: never gonna get that. But maybe they'll do like that
Speaker 1: set soon. Just give them an honorary Oscar and just that.
Speaker 4: But I don't even know me, man, it's easy to
Speaker 4: take those people for granted, right when he's been doing
Speaker 4: it so long and they're just like their floor is
Speaker 4: just like, you know, a freaking.
Speaker 5: Awesome him at the Menu was incredible for that one too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fantastic.
Speaker 4: Quickly, I just want to shout out as you brought
Speaker 4: him up, shout out to John Lethgow and that movie. Man,
Speaker 4: he just does such a good job of playing this
Speaker 4: slimy guy like that. You know you kind of you
Speaker 4: read right through him.
Speaker 3: But he's so freaking good at it, man, you yeah,
Speaker 3: you love to hate him, so perform.
Speaker 1: All right, So now we got best director. Let me
Speaker 1: pull this up. So it's, uh, how do you say?
Speaker 1: The guy's name is Emilia Prez jes Jock. Thank you
Speaker 1: to you guys, Sean Baker, Brady Corvett, Uh Corley and
Speaker 1: then James Mangold.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: I love Mangold, but like, yeah, it's just like there
Speaker 1: why they right now?
Speaker 3: For John too?
Speaker 5: It should be a two big, two way raced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, directing and directing. I think the past couple of
Speaker 1: years they've kind of screwed up. I'm happy forget Gun there.
Speaker 1: I guess it's because I feel like Baker. He did
Speaker 1: he win the d g A right, I think he won. Yes,
Speaker 1: that for me, I thought for sure it was Corbett
Speaker 1: all the way. I thought, even if Brules doesn't win
Speaker 1: Best Picture, they're gonna give it to him. I'm very torn.
Speaker 1: I still think Corbett is more of an Oscars like pick.
Speaker 1: I feel like it goes away. But Sean Baker has
Speaker 1: been putting in the work for years and like so
Speaker 1: it's a very like I said, this could be like
Speaker 1: an r if it's like screenplay actress, it could be
Speaker 1: one of those where it just wins a bunch and
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, they're going that route. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a split year though. I think that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Corbett winning here for Best Director. I could
Speaker 1: be completely wrong, just because the GUGA happened and usually
Speaker 1: that's a sign, but there's a bit more wiggle room there.
Speaker 1: So but I'm gonna say, uh, Corvette gets it here
Speaker 1: because it's a massive film. And again I like Anora
Speaker 1: more than the Brutalist, Like I will watch it over
Speaker 1: many times my life. Brutalist maybe one other time, like
Speaker 1: I have no plans to watch it again, but it
Speaker 1: is a very big time, massively directed movie and that's
Speaker 1: a lot of scope that he had to do there.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I'm gonna go with Corvette for my
Speaker 1: official pick.
Speaker 5: Who's your want?
Speaker 1: I probably would give it to Farget for the Substance,
Speaker 1: like I love the substance that's behind Like I think
Speaker 1: I said last year, Dune was to me the best movie,
Speaker 1: but my favorite movie was the Substance. And if Aggers
Speaker 1: isn't in this conversation as well, like Aggers is another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Aggers is another one that like should be here. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's a horror film oscars like that
Speaker 1: is massively directed. But yeah, I would go to her
Speaker 1: because I think, like you said earlier, the directing and
Speaker 1: the keen eye you gotta do a lot, and I
Speaker 1: think it's like it's great socially has a lot of
Speaker 1: good messages. I think the imagery as well. It's just
Speaker 1: like hitting on all front. So that would be my want,
Speaker 1: But that's if that happens, I'd be like top three
Speaker 1: shocker Oscar's history. That the only way that would happen.
Speaker 1: I would feel like if because what are they here?
Speaker 1: Because who else is it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Because it's happened before a Shockers usually happen when to
Speaker 1: people split the votes right and the third sneaks in there,
Speaker 1: And I guess, yeah, that would be like there, you
Speaker 1: can make a case where somehow Baker and Corbett split
Speaker 1: votes and she sneaks in, but I don't think it's
Speaker 1: that amount because I don't yeah, because I don't think
Speaker 1: Perez or Complete Unknown would be the third. I think
Speaker 1: it would be her as the third that would sneak
Speaker 1: in there, but I don't think the split will be enough.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, that'd be my want. But yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: go with Corvette so well you Mike.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, my want would be uh Corey too, because
Speaker 5: like I said before, she really the direction elevates that
Speaker 5: movie a lot with the performances more than the script does.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Visually, it's it's stunning, it really carries along through and
Speaker 5: for a horror movie, I mean two and a half
Speaker 5: hours for horror movie.
Speaker 1: That's that's long.
Speaker 5: But honestly it was probably like of like noticeably long
Speaker 5: horror movies. That was probably the best I've seen. Uh
Speaker 5: And Sean Baker, I mean, I liked it, but I
Speaker 5: don't think he's like as good as Corbe. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go with Corbe pretty corp for me.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing like I loved Nora, but like
Speaker 1: with you about Chew and you talk about the new
Speaker 1: like it's.
Speaker 4: But put your Oscar voter hat on, Like how do
Speaker 4: you justify it? Like I think, like I hate to
Speaker 4: choose those over like a Denny or because Danny.
Speaker 5: I really think that it's it's a Messiah. I think
Speaker 5: that the fact that they announced the third one it
Speaker 5: I could be wrong with me. They just don't like him,
Speaker 5: in which case there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 4: But that's not any not has you've gotten any maybe
Speaker 4: any song z in the day, not even like for
Speaker 4: a rival.
Speaker 1: That was another thing he got snubbed for two. It's
Speaker 1: similar to like like I think Nolan did get it
Speaker 1: for Dunkirk, but Nolan was the same way of like
Speaker 1: Inception got in but he didn't like I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It's almost like some of these like this sounds weird,
Speaker 1: but it could be. But my like my tinfoil hat theory.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when these directors become like names, and it's
Speaker 1: not because the Oscar made them names, they're almost like
Speaker 1: some people I feel are like, well, you know that
Speaker 1: they should be a name after we like night. It's
Speaker 1: almost like they're knighted before they get the Oscar right.
Speaker 1: And then like Nolan, to me, he should have won
Speaker 1: a few he should have won back in two oh nine.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I know people love some dog millionaire
Speaker 1: that like Nolan changed everything. First billion dollar combup movie,
Speaker 1: that's the combook standard. He made the fucking like ten
Speaker 1: picture nomineesa like he was the four, Like he created
Speaker 1: the same way. To me, Spielberg created a new blockbuster Jaws.
Speaker 1: He did that with Dark Knight, where he made like
Speaker 1: a thinking man's blockbuster where it's like you don't just
Speaker 1: have to be spectacle on a giant robot, like you
Speaker 1: can be a crime drama and go make a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: But of course still Batman movie. But I I think
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of that. If your name, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: now you gotta earn it, you really gotta earn it,
Speaker 1: because that's the only thing that holds him back, right,
Speaker 1: is that is the thing of like, oh, Nolan's Nolan,
Speaker 1: but he's not He's never won an Oscar. He's not
Speaker 1: an Oscar winner, right, But then we made Oppenheimer. It
Speaker 1: was like undeniable.
Speaker 4: So that's a good theory because they're both guys are
Speaker 4: in that we're in that same boat of like they're
Speaker 4: viewed as one of the better directors already in the world,
Speaker 4: and like you said, they didn't have like that as
Speaker 4: Oscar on the.
Speaker 1: Mat and like, I love lots of direk Like that's
Speaker 1: a dumb statement. I love a lot of directors. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: just because Zack Snyder says, Zack Snyder presents or whatever,
Speaker 1: that doesn't get people in the theater. Right there is
Speaker 1: a even you can make the case even Steven Spielberg's
Speaker 1: name does not get people in the theater. Like I
Speaker 1: think Nolan and Denie are probably the only two you
Speaker 1: could put up there right now, and it's like that's
Speaker 1: who oh, whatever it is, I'm gonna go there. And
Speaker 1: even if the nouvea is tough, because like Blade Runner Bomb,
Speaker 1: But now after Dune, I think he has that cache.
Speaker 1: So I remember there was some report before Dune three
Speaker 1: that Denee was gonna make some sort of like war
Speaker 1: government movie and everyone's like, oh, he's just falling the
Speaker 1: Nolan blueprint, and but that's probably what it's gonna take.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take some movie like if he made Sacario. Now,
Speaker 1: I think they'd give him Best Picture for something like that,
Speaker 1: some pretty more grounded yeah, or Prisoners yeah, where I
Speaker 1: think the big stuff. So but then even take him
Speaker 1: out to for Chu, I don't understand it either, because
Speaker 1: wigs all over the place.
Speaker 5: So I think Chew is gonna get it next year
Speaker 5: because we know for sure that's the last, the last
Speaker 5: once they never have a chance to.
Speaker 1: But what if the film is disappointing. That's the tough thing, right,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that's the risk, right, and that I've
Speaker 1: learned that the hard way now this year. So that's
Speaker 1: the thing where you can never be sure. And that's
Speaker 1: where yeah, Baker is great, but like it's for me,
Speaker 1: it's not anything that hasn't happened before. The thing that's
Speaker 1: different with this go around to me is Mikey Madson
Speaker 1: and that could be the writing too, but it's a
Speaker 1: combo of like, oh, this is an all, this is
Speaker 1: a star making performance. Here, We're like, like, defall when
Speaker 1: I can't remember which one it was, like Dafoe is
Speaker 1: already a star.
Speaker 5: Like there's so I don't know it's James Mangled me
Speaker 5: from what I hear. I haven't seen a complete unknown,
Speaker 5: so I'm just going based on what I've heard. But
Speaker 5: I hear it's basically just him doing walk the Line too.
Speaker 1: That's why I've kind of heard too. Yeah, so so
Speaker 1: who is your official pick there? Mike Oh, Brady Corbett
Speaker 1: for Corbriquet yea yeah.
Speaker 5: Also, last thing, uh, it's it's God's greatest joke that
Speaker 5: jocqu Odiard got nominated for Emilia Perez as a musical
Speaker 5: and not John and Chew. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: I yes, to me, she just even like it's weird
Speaker 1: because usually they like to have like the box off one.
Speaker 1: But I guess same thing happened to Greta last year, right,
Speaker 1: she know she directed the biggest film of the year,
Speaker 1: and to me that was the I can't remember everything
Speaker 1: every nominee that was in there last year. But I
Speaker 1: thought Greta deserved over a couple people.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just the fact that they're both musicals
Speaker 5: and that's the one that gets Yeah, Maddy, what about you.
Speaker 4: I'm on Brady Brady Corbett as well. My want would
Speaker 4: be him, or or Cora Lee as well. I mean,
Speaker 4: Honora is awesome, but Sean Baker could definitely win.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go with Brady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, April, I'm gonna go with Sean Baker. Although I
Speaker 2: also wish it was Corely.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, there you go.
Speaker 5: For because I've never seen a Sean Baker movie before this.
Speaker 5: I really should, It's on my bucket list. But like,
Speaker 5: was this did this stand out as like like better
Speaker 5: than a lot of his other movies or is it
Speaker 5: like kind of on par.
Speaker 1: I I think I like it the most out of
Speaker 1: his films, but did just feel like to me, it
Speaker 1: didn't feel like the like evolution. It's just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the best version of that. It's kind of
Speaker 1: similar like Tarantino. Maybe, you know, we're like at least
Speaker 1: with like Django. Reason I loved so much because it
Speaker 1: was something a bit different obviously he was riffing on
Speaker 1: spaghetti westerns, but it was different than you know, or
Speaker 1: even in Gloria's Bastards. People could make that case right,
Speaker 1: like it was a time set airpiece. But I think
Speaker 1: it's just like the best of the films he's directed.
Speaker 1: But they're, like I said, in each film he usually
Speaker 1: has a person that's an actor that's not an actor
Speaker 1: that's in a big role. They're very wordy, character driven
Speaker 1: in lots of like like I won't say weird, but
Speaker 1: situations like this where they're not common day. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of sex workers stuff. So it's similar to like QT,
Speaker 1: where he hits like on a lot of similar themes.
Speaker 1: So to me, it wasn't like, oh man, this is
Speaker 1: like a massive step from what he's doing, but still great.
Speaker 1: So okay, all right, and finally we got Best Picture.
Speaker 1: The nominations are A Nora, The Brutal List, A Complete Unknown, Conclave,
Speaker 1: Dune Part two, Amelia Perez, I'm Still Here, Nickel Boys,
Speaker 1: The Substance, and Wicked, which is crazy out of all
Speaker 1: these like the Nickel Boys nowhere like anywhere else, Like
Speaker 1: usually it's like all these all these pictures, like all
Speaker 1: of them have somewhere, like whether it's a writing or
Speaker 1: a makeup if they have something, but Nickel Boy says
Speaker 1: literally nothing and anywhere else. It's kind of crazy to
Speaker 1: think about. But April, you're starting of off, what would
Speaker 1: be your want? What would be your your pick?
Speaker 2: My want would probably be the substance. But I think
Speaker 2: is gonna take it.
Speaker 1: I think is going to take it all right, Manny,
Speaker 1: what about you? I think I know your want?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my want would be Dune part two, and my
Speaker 4: vote would be an aura as well.
Speaker 1: Right right now, Mike, I think I know your your
Speaker 1: want as well. But what's your official pick?
Speaker 5: Want is wicked, and my pick is can we just
Speaker 5: do the Oppenheimer's sweep again? Or do we try and
Speaker 5: be different? That's the question, because it really is either
Speaker 5: an aura or the brutalist. I don't think anything else
Speaker 5: is even coming close to it.
Speaker 1: At one point I thought, Dune, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to chance, but at least a chance to be like
Speaker 1: a runner. But that's that's gone. I guess people always
Speaker 1: throw up your wicked though as a spoiler. Though, people,
Speaker 1: I think that's like the third. If it's not those two,
Speaker 1: it's wicked.
Speaker 5: So I feel like if that was gonna happen, we
Speaker 5: would have gotten hints from that. In another the John
Speaker 5: and Chu director went at the critics choice that I
Speaker 5: was wild even though I can believe that, But I
Speaker 5: was happy for it.
Speaker 1: Tonight with sag though, because they have the best cast
Speaker 1: nomination right, like the ensemble one which Anora is in
Speaker 1: there because it's I can't remember who it is, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Wicked Conclave complete unknown and Noora, so you.
Speaker 1: I do think it's going to do.
Speaker 5: Well at SSY. It's the actors, so they're like a
Speaker 5: lot more like the theater kids, and Wicked is a
Speaker 5: total theater kid thing. I think Granny is gonna win
Speaker 5: there too. Personally, that's the night you guys said night
Speaker 5: on Netflix.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's in is that? Is it
Speaker 1: that way in America for you? April? Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: watched the last year. It was great because last year
Speaker 1: they could swear. They're very loose like the breaks like
Speaker 1: it because I don't think they took many breaks. It's
Speaker 1: like the Oscars but no commercials. It's it was a
Speaker 1: fun show last year.
Speaker 3: That when Pedro was drunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like to me, it's like the best version
Speaker 1: of the Globes and the Oscars put together. It's just like,
Speaker 1: I think it's also really chill because it's like there's
Speaker 1: some directors, but it's mostly just actors, so it's like
Speaker 1: just you know, so.
Speaker 3: Relaxing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh yeah, but we's not going again because
Speaker 5: we could for good on next year.
Speaker 1: So if.
Speaker 5: I am, I am, We'll see. Although that's me saying
Speaker 5: that knowing that the second part is not as good
Speaker 5: as the first part, so that there could be something's happening.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be boring and go with an Aura. I
Speaker 5: feel like it has the ground swell. It's uh ken yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 5: I'll go with the North. Like it's pure stats, dude,
Speaker 5: Like there's been that stats where it's.
Speaker 1: Like the winner of the DJ and the PJA and
Speaker 1: all like whatever it was and like the only Best
Speaker 1: Picture win I can't remember the third one. It was
Speaker 1: it Writers Maybe it was Writers is something, but either way,
Speaker 1: it won like all these top awards, right, and it
Speaker 1: was like the stat was the only Best Picture nomine
Speaker 1: to win all these awards and not win Best Picture.
Speaker 1: Was broke back down and we talked about the discord
Speaker 1: word to me, that was just clearly because the times
Speaker 1: like that was the year crash one and everyone looks
Speaker 1: as like a bad winner. I think that was just
Speaker 1: people were not ready to vote for something that was
Speaker 1: very positive, Like the movie is not possible because I
Speaker 1: mean there's best stuff. I mean like it's putting issues
Speaker 1: to the forefront, and it's centered around a very upfront
Speaker 1: gay relationship. It's not like, oh yeah, it's like there's
Speaker 1: full on sex scenes. They're making out the whole time.
Speaker 1: They're partially telling each other they love one another, like
Speaker 1: it's right up in your face. And I think back
Speaker 1: then it was too much for certain people to vote for.
Speaker 1: And I think in retrospect, if you were rerun those oscars,
Speaker 1: I think broke back wins and like for a landslide,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's fun to look at that.
Speaker 1: But I think with the no, which I was surprised
Speaker 1: right because I think it's a little bit of the brutalist,
Speaker 1: was that early front runner and that kind of people
Speaker 1: like eh. And then I remember there was that anonymous
Speaker 1: which again it's only a few voters, but like there's
Speaker 1: two those variety every year they put it like their
Speaker 1: nonmalness like voters ballot and like some people share their thoughts,
Speaker 1: and they had shared their thoughts like oh, many people
Speaker 1: said they didn't finish The Brutalist because it.
Speaker 3: Was too long.
Speaker 1: One I don't think The brutaliss is like I know
Speaker 1: it's three twenty, but like like I watched Endgame last week.
Speaker 1: I know it's different, but I think I have watched
Speaker 1: like Lord of the Rings, like if it's a good movie,
Speaker 1: it's not too long. And to me, that's just like
Speaker 1: that's people saying that maybe that wasn't a good movie,
Speaker 1: that they didn't enjoy enough, that they felt while they
Speaker 1: were watching, like, oh, this is too long. I do
Speaker 1: think The Brutalist is too long because there's just stuff
Speaker 1: in the first act I would cut because I think
Speaker 1: they hit on the themes and I think they just
Speaker 1: keep hidden on them over and over. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I kind of get that. And then even the second
Speaker 1: act I enjoy, but I think there's some pacing issues there.
Speaker 1: But the Brutalists, Yeah, I did. Really, I'll say I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it a lot. Really enjoyed sounds like an over complication.
Speaker 1: I think it's a film that I respect more than
Speaker 1: enjoy I think it's very well made and I could
Speaker 1: see it winning. But I just think a lot of
Speaker 1: people when they because the way the Oscars do their voting,
Speaker 1: it's that it's I'm pretty sure it's that ranking of
Speaker 1: the best pictures. You don't go in there and just
Speaker 1: like here's my vote, it's Dune. I think it's the
Speaker 1: ranking of like ranked the one to ten and I
Speaker 1: feel like a NOR. For a lot of people, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of two and three's. I bet it's a
Speaker 1: lot like I don't think a NOR ranks oh for
Speaker 1: people we're brutalists. If someone does think it's too long,
Speaker 1: I can see someone be like, yeah, that's number eight,
Speaker 1: that's number nine, where Nor. I think it's always going
Speaker 1: to get a one to three spot because it's just
Speaker 1: it's an enjoyable movie. I think even myself that I
Speaker 1: don't laugh as much as other people the second act,
Speaker 1: like I love the first act, love the third act,
Speaker 1: and it's still a really good time, like I'll enjoy
Speaker 1: watching again, where same thing with Dune. Maybe people feels
Speaker 1: too heavy. Amelia Perez like gone there for a reason,
Speaker 1: So I don't know where that would rank.
Speaker 4: I completely brutalist, like the second half piecing, I felt
Speaker 4: it as well. It's also like there's there's some dark
Speaker 4: stuff happening over and over again. But for me, the
Speaker 4: first half I watched it, I watched it pretty smoothie,
Speaker 4: and the second half I felt like the piecing was
Speaker 4: a bit off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what stuff like Wicked that get out there.
Speaker 1: That's where I think stuff like the substance where it
Speaker 1: hurts it because I think anybody that's not horror right
Speaker 1: away just puts that at like the bottom, like even
Speaker 1: if they haven't seen it or they watch a bit
Speaker 1: of it, I think right away they just go all boom,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to put it there. So that's why
Speaker 1: Actually I don't like the the that type of that's
Speaker 1: why we don't do because I think you should vote
Speaker 1: for the best and go from there.
Speaker 5: But I actually think that for some reason that with
Speaker 5: the ranking system, I feel like that would help the
Speaker 5: conclave more because yeah, I get this suspicion that that's
Speaker 5: like everyone's second or third favorite movie of the bunch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that would be my like ranking these like
Speaker 1: I think like where, because uh, where's keep losing it?
Speaker 1: Like I would have I would have Dune at the
Speaker 1: top yea and then yeah, I have dune substance and
Speaker 1: then a noora and then conclave say that it'd be
Speaker 1: my top four. So and I could see people having
Speaker 1: it higher than the substance, like than I would write
Speaker 1: and everything, so but yeah, so yeah, I'll fish to
Speaker 1: pick a noora. I'll be boring maybe the bral skeets
Speaker 1: that we'll see, so uh yeah, I think there's a
Speaker 1: couple categories. We'll have to take some swing votes on here.
Speaker 1: We'll see what Clay and Haancy submit as well for
Speaker 1: these and anybody else. Again, you got you until I'll
Speaker 1: say Oscar two pm. I'll say Oscar afternoon. If you're
Speaker 1: in the discord or you want to join this during
Speaker 1: this record, we have an Oscar channel. You can go
Speaker 1: in there and I'll add you to these Oscar Google
Speaker 1: doc here that we have and then yeah, the winner
Speaker 1: will select a movie and then on the next afternoon
Speaker 1: we'll do a segment where we like we did the
Speaker 1: NFL review it and talk about anything is on the board.
Speaker 1: So if you want to make a Mattie watch the
Speaker 1: Holiday special again, you know you'll have to do it.
Speaker 3: Choosing the winning movie this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're choosing winning me. Well there you go. Well yeah, well,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining because this is always fun,
Speaker 1: way more fun than doing alone, so I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And then I'll be excited for Oscar Sunday when we'll
Speaker 1: be in the chat and everything and reacting everything, so
Speaker 1: we'll be there. Yeah, thank you very much. You guys
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