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Speaker 1: And that's why I never read the comment. I just

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want to like, I'm not even going to look amazing tonight.

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Speaker 2: I love what you're wearing.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're all I have an angry closs.

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Speaker 2: That is life, but that's hard, like unless it's like

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an NBA team or something like.

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Speaker 3: Whoa, hello everybody and welcome back to Holly Randall Unfiltered.

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genuinely have one of my favorite people in the world

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on this show. And she's been on before, but she's

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back and I'm so excited to have her here. She

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came in at eighteen, wanting to be a bombshell, not

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the girl next door, not the approachable fantasy, but the

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full throttle, undeniable kind of icon that makes you forget

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what you were doing. And at twenty two she became

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the first ever Browsers contract girl, and I was there.

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Speaker 1: I shot the photos for her first anal.

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Speaker 3: Scene, and then what should have been the peak of everything,

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a catastrophic car accident changed the course of her life.

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Twelve surgeries later, after years of recovery, false starts, and yes,

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even more surgeries, Madison Ivy is back, and she has

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a lot to say about who she was, who she became,

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and what the industry looks like now that she's returned

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to it. Please welcome the icon be legend, Madison Ivy.

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Speaker 2: So good to be.

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Speaker 4: Here and so good to see you. Holly is one

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of my favorite humans to ever exist. She has no

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idea how much she has influenced and inspired every aspect

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of my life, my being, and my soul.

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Speaker 1: I hope you know that, thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: I really like that means a lot to me because

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I I've been out of like the directing game for

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a while, and I feel like so many people just crazy,

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yeah that I work with, Like I've never worked with them, right,

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I get to meet them on this podcast and it's

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awesome because I get to have great conversations with them.

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Speaker 1: But we don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you and I have like worked together so much.

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I mean we went to Costa Rica.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was amazing.

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Speaker 3: You know, we went to Costa Rica together and shot

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in Costa Rica.

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Speaker 4: Like that was incredible. You and Nicole Aniston and me

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and Mila Kova. Oh my gosh. I still think about that. Yeah,

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I've ever taken it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tyler and Nixon that's right, Yeah, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was like the dream Team, like the

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three and the three of you were still such icons, right, Madison,

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Ivy Cole, Anniston, Me and mel Kova and Tyler in

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Costa Rica.

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Speaker 4: Like, I still have people requesting me to work with

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Tyler because they felt that those scenes that we shot

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there were just so passionate and sexy.

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Speaker 2: They were like, can you work with him again? Please?

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Speaker 3: So I didn't know that either, but he I talked

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she had just done a scene with him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's in La anymore.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but yeah, hunt him down and I don't think

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he's shooting for stud yeas anymore.

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Speaker 1: But I think like collabs.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: He was always just a nice kid.

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Speaker 4: He's so sweet, honestly, so easy to work with, polite, sexy,

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perfect dick.

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Speaker 3: Yes, God, do you remember? You know, Madison is always

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like a fucking queen. But I just one of the

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things my favorite memories from Costa Rica is when we

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got that big ass snake, are you yes? And like

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you were not afraid of that thing at all? And

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that was a big ass mother. It was a big

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your face right up to it. And I remember taking

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pictures and I was just like inside it was terrified.

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snake for a photo shoot, and you kind of had

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hinted to all the girls who would be comfortable with

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the snake, and I mean it was a snake.

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Speaker 2: I'm a snaky snake.

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Speaker 4: It was just that was me, like, and you lit

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a fire under my love for snakes because then I

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I blame you.

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Speaker 1: That was a great It was a great scene though.

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Speaker 3: That was Remember my pants ripped from like crotched all

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the way up to my ass that day.

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Speaker 2: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now my.

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Speaker 3: Ass was completely hanging out and I had no change

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Speaker 1: Look, my clothes are getting tighter by the minute.

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Speaker 3: That was That was actually also the first day I

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Speaker 2: That was that's right, because she was just an extra.

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Speaker 1: Yes you requested her.

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Speaker 4: I did well because I was supposed to have Kieran's

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lovely miss.

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Speaker 4: She was supposed to be in my scene Kate, but

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she just found out that she was pregnant, so she

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was like, sorry, I can't. Yeah, So I got Abigail,

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and I'll never forget. When I first saw her, I

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was like, who is this lovely lady? She is She's

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going to be something. And everyone saw her in my scene.

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I was like, who's that? It's like, believe me, I'm

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trying to figure that out myself. Oh she's such a

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sweetheart too. Yeah, she really is a beautiful soul like

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this one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, I guess uh. Let's get into it.

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you wanted.

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Speaker 3: You didn't want to be the girl next door, you

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didn't want to play the teen you wanted to be

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the bombshell.

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Speaker 1: Where did that kind of clarity come from at that age?

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Speaker 3: And like, how do you feel about your entrance at eighteen,

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because you know, there's a lot of people who feel

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it's too young, Like how were you mentally at that time?

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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like for eighteen, I was much more

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of a mature eighteen year old. And I know everyone

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says that and then we look back on ourselves and

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we go, oh, no, you were dumb. But I did

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understanding of what I wanted and who I wanted to

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be at eighteen. So when I came in, I obviously

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no implants. Bleach blonde hair, and I'm four eleven, so

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tiny little body. The thing that they obviously want to

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do is they just wanted to put me in the

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cute girl next door. And I grew up watching movies

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like The Mask with Cameron Diaz in her red dress

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when she comes out and Jessica Rabbit.

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Speaker 2: I have a thing for women in red dresses. I'm thinking, but.

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Speaker 4: They're just these very voluptuous womanly figures. And I just

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was so intoxicated by that type of person that I

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was like, I don't know how, but that's who I

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want to be. I just felt this connection with seduction

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in a way rather than this like.

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first scene we shot you in was with Mick Blue,

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and I think we dressed you as a school.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you did, which made me a hot school girl.

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Speaker 3: Like but I mean also though too, if you look

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back at the scene in the pictures, like the intensity

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which you already had at that age, like you could

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tell that that wasn't really the right like genre for you,

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you know what I mean, Like the like innocent like.

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Speaker 2: I should have been in the teacher seat in a.

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Speaker 1: Way, like you already like it felt out of place.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because I had a little crush on Mick.

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Speaker 4: He was the one who I would always watch when

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I would watch porn. So when I got finally got

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to work with him, I was like.

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a podcast with you before, but it's been a while ages. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Oh, so I started working. I was working actually at

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a bowling alley as a mechanic, and then a strip

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club at night, and this lovely, lovely adult star that

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many people might know, Aurora Snow, came on through and

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she was just so sweet. Every time I was on stage,

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she'd come sit at my stage, she'd put money up,

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and so finally I was like, I gotta go say hi.

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me do you want to come to La and savor

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my thighs?

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Speaker 2: I was like, ah, yes, please, yes, please.

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Speaker 4: So the next week I was in La shooting, just

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figuring it out.

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Speaker 2: So nervous though.

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Speaker 1: Who was the first scene that you shot for?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: It was this small company Smashed. Do you remember Smash Pictures. Yes,

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it was for them. It was a night shoot of

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all things, which was very rare. I feel like, so

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I pull up to this big house. The front door

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in front of it. So I'm just like, what am

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wide shut sort of situation and just dicks everywhere masks on.

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Speaker 2: But I just walked in.

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Speaker 4: No one around, but lights set up and then the

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classic casting couch Oh yes.

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Speaker 2: The casting couch vibe.

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Speaker 4: But I was taking a nap in the scene and

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someone just walked through and I was like, hey, nice tits.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yes, take it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, what an intro? What an intro We're gonna so

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we're gonna have you taken a nap?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Interesting?

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Speaker 3: It was hot, which that now I don't think you

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can shoot because it's like considered cordion. No, you can't.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 4: I got an agent, but she was kind of like

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the agent that you don't want, a kind of agent

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that lies to you, tells you.

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Speaker 2: One thing, and you get to set and you're doing

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another thing.

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Speaker 4: So I had her for about a month, and then

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she was kind of a beast and everybody hated her,

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but she really protected her girls, and I grew to

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respect the fuck out of that shy love ah.

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Speaker 4: She had a terrible reputation in the industry, but she

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took me aside. One day after she kind of had

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found out about this first agent that I had. She's like,

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agree on, call me and we'll get you right off

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of set. Yeah, and that I had kind of not

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Speaker 2: So it was very grateful for Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was it was like the wild West.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you say that you were you'd walk in on

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set and you'd like be presented with a completely different

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scene than what you thought you were getting into.

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Speaker 4: Give an example, Ooh, I think the final straw was

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I was told that I was going to do this

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scene with three guys, but I wasn't gonna be working

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with each all three of them at once. I was

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told that I was gonna work with one and then

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we were gonna move essentially to a different space, and

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then I'd work with another one. It'd be kind of

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almost like moving down the line. Then when I got

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to set, it was not three guys, it was seven,

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and it was.

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Speaker 2: Not one at a time.

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Speaker 4: It was all at once. It was basically a gang

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bang is a gangbang for my third scene. And so

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the director, I think was very aware at the time

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that there was a little bit of foul play going on,

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and he kind of played along it with it, and

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he had used this There was a big thing in

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the industry a long time ago where some very not

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good directors would tell you, well, if you're gonna leave set,

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you have to pay a killfie for every.

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Speaker 2: Single person on set.

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Speaker 4: And so he really pressed me about it, and I was like, well,

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you're gonna have to pay killfie for the team.

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Speaker 2: All seven guys.

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Speaker 4: So we kind of worked it out to where I'd

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only worked with the three that I had originally agreed to,

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but it was still all at once, and it was

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still more like, Okay, well, this isn't what I want

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to be doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was like, nah.

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Speaker 3: I mean the fact for you, even at the age

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of eighteen, to be able to have the guts to

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even negotiate that, because especially with being put the pressure

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on you that like you know, you're now going to

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be you're gonna walk out of this scene like negative yes, right,

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like you thought you're here negative.

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Speaker 2: Ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: So it's like that was immediately, Oh no, how do

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I fix this?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you didn't feel like you could call your agent? No,

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well I did.

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Speaker 4: I believe actually at the time, and I believe because

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it was so long ago that she pressed me to

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do it. So I was like, the moment someone starts

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pressing me is the moment they've lost to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I just won't tolerate it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This is why I say, like, you know, today, if

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you get into the industry, like now is the best

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time it is to get in, because like, shit like

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that would happen back in the day, But that's not

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really like going to fly today.

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Speaker 4: No, it's because a company's like Browsers coming in and

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really elevating the whole industry that companies like that just

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got immediately pushed out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and also too, like performers having so much more

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control over their careers and being financially independent, they're not

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going to put up with that shit.

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Speaker 4: And getting to work with your partner versus working with

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someone you've never met before.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of the only fans girls

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even understand going to set to a sixteen hour day

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if you were lucky sometimes longer, and working with someone

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you've never even talked to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like it different thing now.

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Speaker 3: Back then, we were actually still doing ghosties, which is

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like not a thing anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think people even know what ghosties are.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, can you explain to the

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audience what a ghosty is?

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Speaker 4: So a ghosty is where your agent would pick you

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up and it would be maybe three to five girls,

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and you'd spend the whole day driving around from company

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to company, to wearhouse to wearhouse, and you'd go into

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the GM's office and you'd strip down to your birthday

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suit and give a little twirl, bend over, make sure

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that that zone looks good because so many people would

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photoshop extra filter. I mean, even back then when social

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networking really wasn't that big, you had to worry about

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am I going to get the girl in the picture.

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So some companies, like New Sensations, they would not hire

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you if they did not see you in person.

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Speaker 2: I loved Renee though she was brutal, but I loved her.

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Speaker 1: She's just a strong woman.

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Speaker 2: I loved strong women.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were kind of the same too, like yeah,

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we very rarely booked people unless we saw them in person.

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Speaker 5: First.

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Speaker 1: The worst was doing a ghosie with a guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think I ever did a goho see

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with a guy.

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Speaker 3: Well, because you didn't have to. You weren't the one casting, right, rude.

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And actually it's funny because Seth Gamble was around at

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that time. Yes, he came to a gosy for me.

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That's the first time we met. And so just real

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quick aside. So if you are a guy and you

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do go see same thing, used to strip down naked

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and everything, but the things you have to get your

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dick hard, because we needed to see what it looks

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like hard.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what it looks like soft.

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Speaker 4: And if you can get it hard on command, it's

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very important.

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Speaker 3: And so of course no one in the office ever

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wanted to do that. Oh, like, and so I got

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stuck with it because I was like, you know, I

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was like the peon.

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Speaker 1: I was like at the low end, so it always

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had to be me.

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Speaker 3: And so I came up with a system because there's

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nothing worse than standing in the room with a guy

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who's trying to get his dick.

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Speaker 1: And you're just kind of like holding a camera, like

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do I look at him? Do I look away? Do

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I look at the ceiling?

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Speaker 3: Do I? Actually, I don't even think, like smartphones are

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really thing at the time, Like what do I do

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with myself? So what I would do is there was

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the back room, and I would like get a stack

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of magazines. Because we didn't have like smartphones at the time,

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we could just pull up porn Hub and I would

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like have a box, like a box with magazines and

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lube and baby wipes, and I give it to the

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guy and I'd be like, let me know when you're ready, yeah,

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And so then I would leave and I would stand

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right outside the door because I didn't want there to

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be too much time between when he said he was

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ready and when I shot it, because it could go down.

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Of course, I have this is so vividly burned in

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my mind light of you.

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Speaker 2: Though most people be like all right, I tell them

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when you're ready?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean like I want him to get hard because

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like you know, like I, well.

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Speaker 2: Some people don't have that attitude.

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Speaker 4: I've I've met some female performers who are like get

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your dick hardy, and they're like they won't even be

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flirtatious with the partner to create a sense of energy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to like help them and make them

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feel Sometimes guys would ask me to like stay in

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the room and ask if I could help, and I

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was like, sweetheart, But I would stand outside the door

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and I would just be holding my camera and then

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like I just hear through the wall like and then

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I'd hear, okay, I'm ready, and then I'd like rush

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in with my camera and like trying to take the

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pictures before.

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Speaker 1: Like it went down. And sometimes it would go down

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like right away, and then you.

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Speaker 2: Startle them coming through the door.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe it's the kool aid.

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Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, where's your ticket?

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Speaker 2: Oh god?

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Speaker 3: And I remember once this guy like accidentally came. He

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came like all over the floor and I made him,

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I mean because I was like I cleaned on that up, like, yeah,

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those were the fucking days.

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Speaker 1: Go sees. Oh my god, blast in the past.

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Speaker 3: Okay, at twenty two, you became the first ever Grazers

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contractor Yes, what did that mean to you at the time,

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and what does it mean to you now looking back?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like it was such an honor,

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like to not only be the first one, but to

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be the first female, because they had signed a few

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guys before and I at that time, it was really

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we were exiting the DVD era and internet was on

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the rise. But everyone really I remember, hated on browsers,

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like a lot of performers like I'll never go work

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with them because we had such loyalty to the DVD companies.

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But for me, I was super into internet shopping and

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posting online and on Flicker and all these different little sites.

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So once I got the chance to work for an

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internet company, I'm like, this is the future, this is

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where we're headed. So when they asked me to be

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their contract girl, I almost couldn't believe it. I still

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am like surprised that they came back the same day

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and were like, yes, we want her.

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Speaker 2: So it still just makes them a little heart flutter.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because I remember when Browsers started.

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Speaker 3: You know, we already had Sue's Net and that was

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up and running, and then you know, and back then,

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affiliate programs were like a big thing. Affiliate programs are

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basically like other websites that post like free samples of

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content and then they link back to the original site

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that has the content with a special code, and whoever

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like signs up gets a certain amount of money from

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that website. Right, So back in the day, that was like,

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I mean, it's not really such a lucrative thing anymore,

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but it was at the time.

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Speaker 1: And I remember this new.

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Speaker 3: Company called Browsers coming in and paying out like these

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insane sign up fees that were way higher than everybody else's.

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So all of the affiliates would promote their content because

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they got the highest number of like And I believe

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at the beginning, like I knew someone who knew someone

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at Browsers and they were like, it's not really like

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converting financially for us at the moment, but like we're

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playing the long games.

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Speaker 1: Yes right, yes, I don't know. Did it work.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it works for me definitely, because I was

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on every little sidebar.

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Speaker 2: There was always a little cutout, a little emblem.

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Speaker 4: So at that time I couldn't go to Disneyland with

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my family without being swarmed act and I was like,

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oh god, I have to wear disguises now because it

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would just get outrageous.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, and you're also kind of like visible because

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I mean your petite right, yes, so like you stick

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out like for that reason too.

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Speaker 4: Yes, short with big tits on like a lollipop walking around.

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Speaker 2: I'm oh, there, it is, there, it is.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: You were nominated for an Abian Award that year.

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Speaker 4: I was, yes, for my anal scene. I can't even

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remember now what award. If it was for if it

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was for a Female Performer of the Year or Best

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anal Scene. It was for a really big award, and

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I was just, oh, it was heartbroken that I didn't

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get to be there that.

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Speaker 1: Year because that's when you had the car.

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Speaker 2: Acit that's when I had the car accident.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then can you just talk a little bit

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about that period. I mean, we went into it pretty

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extensively in the previous episode, So if you guys want

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to hear the Grizzly story, you can go back and

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watch that. I don't want to ask you to repeat,

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but just like a quick recap for people who did

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no idea what we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because I feel like when we did

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that last interview, it was so soon still after I

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had had my last round of surgeries. So I was

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on my way out to dinner one night, just a

480
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normal evening, and this crazy, reckless driver comes creening around

481
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a turn in his Ferrari and slams right into me

482
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and the seatbelt.

483
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Speaker 2: It broke my back.

484
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Speaker 4: It ruptured three different organs, and I spent the next

485
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year bedridden. But I so desperately wanted to get back

486
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,559
to life before that. And I think anyone who's been

487
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:44,599
through anything traumatic, whether it's health related or accident, all

488
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you want to do is get back to who you

489
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,519
were before that happened. But that's never going to happen,

490
00:21:50,839 --> 00:21:53,400
so you really have to learn to be happy with

491
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who you are now becoming. So I just tried so

492
00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:00,240
hard to get back to being that person that I

493
00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:01,599
really feel like I hurt.

494
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Speaker 2: Myself in a lot of ways.

495
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just with the pressure too of be energetic, be

496
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,200
on when your back is killing you, your energy is nonexistent.

497
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I mean, I still struggle so much, and I don't

498
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,759
think people even realize that that I spend two weeks

499
00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:22,680
out of every month doing physical therapy still till this day,

500
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and it's something that I'll always have to deal with.

501
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Speaker 3: So when you say two weeks out of the month,

502
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you mean like so frequently that it's like a fourteen day.

503
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Speaker 2: It's so frequently that it's like a fourteen day.

504
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Speaker 4: I mean like I pretty much spend every day focusing

505
00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,279
on some sort of semblance of physical therapy, but there's

506
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always a grouping of at least two weeks. It seems

507
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,759
like out of every month where I'm immobile, I'm so

508
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,480
zapped of energy and I'm maybe I pinched a nerve

509
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,079
that I physically can't even walk, so I use my

510
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,480
hoverboard a lot. Actually, wow, Yeah, I really think hoverboards

511
00:22:54,599 --> 00:22:58,359
could be a great use for anyone with spinal or

512
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,319
psiatic pain because I can't take steps, but I could

513
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,440
stand straight. So if you can stand on a hoverboard,

514
00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:06,880
you can get shit done.

515
00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, how long ago was this accident?

516
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,599
Speaker 4: When I think about it, it's insane. It was already

517
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,920
ten years.

518
00:23:13,599 --> 00:23:15,319
Speaker 1: Ago and you're still suffering.

519
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: But I'm still suffering.

520
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: I just had three emergency surgeries two and a half

521
00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:23,200
years ago, so I was gonna come back actually to filming,

522
00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:27,240
but then it was like boom, boom boom, like all

523
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,680
of a sudden again, my body just decided we're bringing

524
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,039
back some old problems. And I kind of knew that

525
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,880
these things would become an issue. They told me, I'll

526
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,880
always have to worry about this, but I was kind

527
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,200
of a few years out away from surgery, so I

528
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,480
had kind of gotten in my mind, I'm good, like

529
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:48,359
we're safe, We're in the safe zone. The moment you

530
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,799
start thinking that way is the moment the universe wants

531
00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:52,359
to humble you.

532
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,839
Speaker 1: What is the whole experience taught you about life and

533
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,640
about yourself.

534
00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:00,839
Speaker 4: Try not to let anything upset you too much, because

535
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,960
time heals all.

536
00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: Don't let those things ruin your day.

537
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 4: Of course, everything's gonna upset you once in a while,

538
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,559
but don't let it sit within you, because you're gonna

539
00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:12,440
live your whole life angry, and you're gonna get to

540
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,319
your end of your life thinking why did I do that?

541
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:17,079
Speaker 2: Life was so good.

542
00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 4: You're gonna spend your twenties, your thirties, your forties, and

543
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,359
then you're gonna get to your fifties and sixties and

544
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,799
go Man, I was a hot bitch in my twenties

545
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
and in my thirties and in my forties and in

546
00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:29,920
my fifties, and I wasted all of that worrying. So

547
00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:34,920
stop worrying if you can, and try just living just

548
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,559
a little bit.

549
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: They say it's about the journey, not the destination. Yes,

550
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,599
And I'm always thinking about the destination. It's always like same.

551
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm always like when I get to this thing, then

552
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,440
I'll be happy. When I get that thing, I'll be happy,

553
00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:47,759
like even when you get that thing. And I think

554
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:50,920
you're probably similar to me. We're kind of perfectionists, right, Yes,

555
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,440
you're never happy. You're never you're like, oh this is

556
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,960
not what I thought it would be, or just like

557
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,240
what's the next thing.

558
00:24:57,279 --> 00:24:59,599
Speaker 1: You're always looking to the next thing, and like in.

559
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: Between all of those milestones that you're trying to hit,

560
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,279
like that's.

561
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,799
Speaker 4: When life happens, truly, truly. I was on my way

562
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,759
once to get into a car. I can't even remember

563
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:13,640
where I was, and a security guy saw me rushing

564
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,039
to the car and he goes, oh, you must be later.

565
00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:18,599
Are you gonna hurry, you're running. I wasn't late for anything.

566
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,359
I was just moving and I was just in that moment.

567
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,839
I'm like, damn, I need to I need to slow down.

568
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,720
I need to remind myself it's okay to walk. Anytime

569
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:29,799
I see someone i'm walking with them, I'm just I'm

570
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,119
up here and they're back here, and I'm like, girl,

571
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,839
let yourself be back here with them.

572
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 3: You know what reminds me a lot of this thing

573
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,359
that I need to work on and I lack a lot.

574
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,880
I will say honestly, is like my daughter. Because kids

575
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,000
are so in the moment. Yes, they're not worried about

576
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,640
time nothing. She's very much not worried about time to

577
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,519
the point we're rushing.

578
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: Late to school every day.

579
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, I'll be like, I

580
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,640
let hurry up, hurry up, we gotta go, Yes, we

581
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,880
got to go, and she's like, oh la la.

582
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:01,039
Speaker 1: La, like she's looking at this flower. Was like, And

583
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,079
you know, even though I.

584
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: Get like frustrated sometimes because like I'm trying to get

585
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119
shit done and my kid's dragging her fucking feet like

586
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,960
all kids do, there's so many times where I'm like

587
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:14,119
Jesus christ like she is living in the moment. She is,

588
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:17,519
She's experiencing life right now, She's there, she's present.

589
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: I am not I am rushing her.

590
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: I am like saying next, next, next, not here, here, here,

591
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,119
And like she reminds me of that a lot.

592
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: I could totally say that.

593
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: But do you remember what it was like to be

594
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,920
that age where Christmas felt like it was an eternity

595
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,160
a way, because the construct of time does not exist

596
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,200
to children. Yes, And I'm so envious of that. I know,

597
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,359
because in my head there's always a clock. It's always ticking.

598
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:45,200
Even though I want to remind myself slow down, that

599
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:46,319
clock is always ticking.

600
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Speaker 3: So Madison, obviously you went through all of that. You

601
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,559
step back, you took a break, You felt like you

602
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:57,920
tried to return to the industry too quickly. So what

603
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,880
has been different about this time?

604
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 4: Well, this time, I definitely feel like I wanted to

605
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,039
just get my self right. I mean, I look back

606
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:09,200
on some of those those videos from my return and

607
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,440
I can just see that my skin is a little

608
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,079
gray because I was bedridden for a year. I didn't

609
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,519
go out in the sun enough, so maybe just needed

610
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,920
a little bit more fun in the sun for myself actually,

611
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,839
So I think that was really all the end. I

612
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,200
just needed to get past figuring out my pain management.

613
00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:30,920
So that's a big one. Figuring out what new energy

614
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,279
I have and how do I want to spend that.

615
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: So I have to kind of map out life.

616
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people don't realize that

617
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,680
that is what it's like for me.

618
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:41,319
Speaker 2: Is I really have to be strategic.

619
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: If I have a big going out activity or a

620
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,519
big photo shoot, I very often need to have the

621
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:50,599
next day off. As ridiculous as it is, I work

622
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,240
for one day and I need a day off. Outrageous,

623
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,160
But sometimes I have a pinch nerve from a photo

624
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,440
shoot and I'm down for three days just planning my

625
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,200
life like that.

626
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: I need, I need a day off.

627
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,039
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's how it should work. We

628
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:09,240
all work one day, we get a day off, one

629
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:10,519
day day off.

630
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: I think we.

631
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: I think also as a society, we like we push

632
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,160
ourselves too hard right we do right now and we

633
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,720
really yeah and we really like don't give ourselves breaks.

634
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: If I go get a massage.

635
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: Like I feel guilty, which is crazy, and like I

636
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,200
don't especially now that I you know a kid like

637
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,119
I don't know time. People are like, oh, you're gonna

638
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,759
make time for yourself. I'm like, get the fuck out

639
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:32,000
of here.

640
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: When am I going to do that?

641
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 5: Tell me?

642
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like almost impossible.

643
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: Because I mean, I'm seeing both my brothers had their

644
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:40,720
first kids. Yeah, and I'm seeing the reality of what

645
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:43,920
life is like with kids and parents are superheroes, like

646
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,119
you are amazing. I wake up every day barely have

647
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,640
energy for myself and my dog.

648
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,279
Speaker 2: So anyone who has more than one child, you deserve

649
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:57,319
a vacation, all expenses paid, like Jesus Christ, once a year.

650
00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:59,079
Speaker 1: Because you don't. You don't get breaks.

651
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: You don't get breaks, breaks, you don't.

652
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: Get to you know.

653
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:03,279
Speaker 3: Someone said to me today because I took her to

654
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:05,720
school this morning, and the crossing guard was like, wow,

655
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:07,799
it's Friday eve, It's almost the weekend.

656
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, buddy, weekends.

657
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,319
Speaker 3: Are almost more work for me than during the week

658
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:14,000
because during the week she's at school. During the weekend,

659
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,240
I got her and like that child wants to be

660
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,799
entertained at all ten yes, at fucking all times, and so.

661
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: You're the most awesome person. So it's like she wants

662
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:24,599
to hang out with you.

663
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: I know, and she's very attached to me, and I

664
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,480
have to keep reminding myself.

665
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,359
Speaker 2: That this will not always be the case exactly.

666
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,319
Speaker 1: You will get to that age where like mom is

667
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:35,079
not cool anymore.

668
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:37,119
Speaker 2: Just about to say, are you looking forward to the

669
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,920
teenage years?

670
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:39,279
Speaker 1: No?

671
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: No, she is so like she has such a strong personality,

672
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:47,559
and she is so smart, and she's I mean everyone

673
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,880
thinks their kids beautiful, but my kid's beautiful.

674
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: Oh so beautiful.

675
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:57,319
Speaker 1: She is beautiful. She's gonna be really Yeah, the thing

676
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,480
is going to be a problem.

677
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,839
Speaker 3: It's going a problem. I can tell anyways about me. Okay,

678
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:06,039
So now you're back, and I mean, do you feel

679
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:06,559
like you had.

680
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: To rush back? Were you worried that the industry was

681
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,039
going to forget you?

682
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: I think everybody's worried about that.

683
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: I think in this day and age, with content turnover

684
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,519
rate the way it is, there's such a push to

685
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:22,039
constantly produce, constantly make content, constantly be virtually present.

686
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,359
Speaker 2: And I feel that all the time.

687
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,359
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to kind of delete that from me

688
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,119
now because I just can't do I can't.

689
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,759
Speaker 2: Live life that way.

690
00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:34,599
Speaker 4: So you need to take time anytimes people see me

691
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:38,920
not posting. It's either because I'm in a super physical

692
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,240
therapy moment or I'm truly just unplugging for myself. Because

693
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,480
I have a box at my house that says commit

694
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,039
to the moment. And I put my phone in that

695
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,359
box and about like six pm every day, and I

696
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:53,359
don't look at it again until right before I plug

697
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,039
it in to go to bed, and that whole time

698
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:58,599
is for crafting or something creative.

699
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: Was that hard for you to do it first? And

700
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,440
is it natural? Does it feel okay? Like easy? Now?

701
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: It feels great now, I actually feel the sense of

702
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:09,960
sickness with my phone is in my hand, and I'm

703
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,519
just dying to put it in that box because and

704
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:15,799
it has to be in an enclosed space. It like

705
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,599
cuts it off from me in a way that just

706
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,319
putting it in the other room, plugging it away from you,

707
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160
doesn't do for me. So I needed that and I

708
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,079
needed that reminder where it says commit to the moment.

709
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: I have found myself definitely like dooms scrolling late at

710
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,319
night and I'm like, I should be in bed and

711
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:36,640
this is not helping me go to sleep. No, And

712
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,519
also like the algorithm knows that I will stop on

713
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:43,960
the worst stories about like child abduction and you know,

714
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,799
all the things that like you're afraid of. Yes, the

715
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,440
internet knows, and that's what.

716
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: It feeds you. And then you go to bed with

717
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:51,119
that shit.

718
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: In your head. And then our phones are secretly listening

719
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:53,480
to us.

720
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: Oh so my phone knows I'm a sad bitch that

721
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Oh she's crying again.

722
00:31:58,079 --> 00:31:59,279
Speaker 2: Send her a puppy video.

723
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: Enter this like fucking pharmaceutical ad for antidepressidence.

724
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:09,279
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, And I can't not like and support people's

725
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:12,559
very sad videos sometimes, So now my whole algorithm, I'm

726
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:14,240
just like, get it away from me.

727
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know.

728
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is Masha uses my phone because

729
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,559
she's my social media manager, so she postsuff on my Instagram.

730
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,039
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Russian shit in my feet. I'm like,

731
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,000
Musha's been on here again. It's just all this Russian stuff.

732
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: And I'm like, so, you've also lived through three completely

733
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:35,400
different eras of this industry, the DVD era, the rise

734
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,559
of internet powern and now OnlyFans.

735
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: How has this shift looked for you?

736
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,559
Speaker 3: And do you think that the industry is better off

737
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,839
now than it was or are there some things that

738
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,279
you miss?

739
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:45,799
Speaker 1: About the good old days.

740
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there was like a little bit

741
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,039
more of a sense of glamour in a sense for

742
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,839
the good old days, especially with the DVD era, when

743
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,920
we had digital playground, shooting things like pirates, building full

744
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,359
scale pirate shit, really putting.

745
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: A whole day just for box cover.

746
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: Yes, just for picture.

747
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Now you have ten minutes to shoot a box.

748
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: Covery, yes, and then you better get at least three

749
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,279
different zones. It's like you can't do a full photo

750
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:15,119
set in the same space anymore, which makes sense.

751
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: I get it, but it's it's interesting.

752
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:21,119
Speaker 4: I do love though, the shift for the performer in

753
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,559
the sense of now you understand personal value, you understand

754
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:25,880
what your earning power is.

755
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,119
Speaker 2: Because of only fans, you get to work.

756
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: With your partner, your friends, You really get to decide

757
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,279
your own niche. And I think it's really done a

758
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:38,400
lot for just the individuals. If someone out there was

759
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,200
just a little less greedy and came out and made

760
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,880
a platform like Spotify, but that gave the majority of

761
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,799
the money to the actual artists, oh my god, the

762
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:52,240
world would be so amazing. Every industry needs in only fans.

763
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,480
I feel like, give the power back to the performers.

764
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:57,519
Speaker 3: When you were at the height of your career before

765
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,359
the accident, what did success feel like then? And now

766
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,359
after everything you've experienced, What does success look like to

767
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:05,799
you now?

768
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: I think then I measured my success by how many

769
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,480
really crazy parties that I got to, like the elite

770
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:16,599
kind of parties that you never hear about, you never

771
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,199
see about that you actually have to lock your phone

772
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,559
up when you enter them. Whether how many designer bags

773
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,880
I had or how long my extensions were. I swear

774
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:32,679
like the scale of measure of success from then till

775
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,280
now is so different.

776
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Now I don't want to be famous in a sense.

777
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,599
Speaker 4: I do just want to be successful, And to me,

778
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,920
that looks like being able to take care of my parents,

779
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,480
being able to help my siblings if they need. I'm

780
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,079
putting my little brother through piloting school right now. He

781
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,760
wants to fly for the big airlines. So just being

782
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,679
able to afford more of a comfortable lifestyle, but not

783
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,440
just for myself, but for the people I really care about.

784
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,920
That is really what success looks like to me now.

785
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: I love that.

786
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: And now, coming back after this long hiatus, how does

787
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,679
that feel for you?

788
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: And tell me a little bit about what you've shot

789
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,119
so far.

790
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,119
Speaker 4: I feel so shy. I feel so shy. I did

791
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:22,280
not expect to feel so like a little bit insecure. Actually,

792
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,559
I think after so many surgeries, so many new scars,

793
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,079
I cannot look at myself without looking directly at the

794
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,960
things that I like the least. So for my perception,

795
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:35,840
I don't see anything probably what people see when they

796
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,440
look at me. So there's this big new wave of

797
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,079
I've lost that cocky energy that you have when you're young.

798
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:46,880
You're invincible, You're badass, and I just want to create

799
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,320
and be as fun as I can now, Like I

800
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,400
just want to create more interesting and visually exciting things.

801
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,159
Before it was just like just give it all to

802
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,440
make gang bang Ah.

803
00:35:58,519 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: I have a cocky energy.

804
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: Cocky energy. Yes, oh my god, I want.

805
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: The bukki energy.

806
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:06,039
Speaker 4: And I do now put that on a shirt. Yeah, No,

807
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:09,519
bucocky energy. That's what That's how I'm trying to live

808
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:13,360
life right now. Is everything Everything is Boukocki energy, whether

809
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,199
it's like you're working on art, you're cleaning your house,

810
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,400
get I want you to bring that boukoki level energy

811
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,079
because if you've ever watched a buukkoki it's so you

812
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:23,679
have to have a lot of energy for it.

813
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: You gotta be into it.

814
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,559
Speaker 4: There's no downtime, there's no oh my elbow, Like, no,

815
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:33,519
you better be stretching because we're coming with bukkaki energy

816
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,079
all day.

817
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: Well also too, when that first load hits your face, like,

818
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,440
you gotta like keep going. You can't take a break

819
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,480
because it's gonna drop.

820
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,159
Speaker 4: You don't want it to dry, and you better hope

821
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:49,519
to bob it doesn't go straight in your eyeballs, otherwise

822
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:52,440
you're gonna be, you know, doing a little something something.

823
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,679
Speaker 1: Have you ever had come in your eye?

824
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: Who hasn't? Who hasn't?

825
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 5: True?

826
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: True, It's the worst, the worst, because you can feel

827
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:03,760
them trying to impregnant your eyeball and you have to

828
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,119
drive home from set Danger Danger.

829
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: There was a shooting taboo once, and I feel like

830
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,920
I've seen it somewhere else.

831
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,639
Speaker 2: Who was it?

832
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: Was it?

833
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Charlie Ford who loves coming her eyes?

834
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,519
Speaker 5: Oh?

835
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: I know a few girls, So yes, there's a few

836
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,880
of them where they would purposefully.

837
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,119
Speaker 1: Like hold their eyes open. Yes, what the fuck?

838
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,079
Speaker 2: What did I mean to each his own?

839
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

840
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:33,039
Speaker 2: No, judge?

841
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: What was so fun?

842
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure was Charlie for and we don't judge.

843
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, go back and listen to my episode with

844
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,840
her and she talks about it because she's such a

845
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,559
sweet like growing this door and she's really smart and

846
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:45,559
like has her shit together and not that like you

847
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:47,679
wouldn't have your shit together can come in your eyes.

848
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: But she's just the last person I expected that from.

849
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:50,559
Speaker 5: Oh.

850
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 4: I feel like the people that have the ship together

851
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,559
the most are the ones that have something like that. Yeah,

852
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,199
always like doctors, lawyers, those guys.

853
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: Do you have any kinky fetishes that people may not

854
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,079
know about or be maybe surprised about.

855
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,639
Speaker 4: Ooh, I like a sexy game of Marco Polo?

856
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: What is that?

857
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: That means?

858
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:12,519
Speaker 4: I want to be blindfolded and I want the other

859
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:15,599
person to kind of Marco Polo around me, and I

860
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:19,599
have to try to tiptoe through treacherous areas to get

861
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,440
to them like an obstacle course.

862
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 2: Yes, really, Yes, that's interesting, Yes.

863
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:30,039
Speaker 4: Because it's the it's the anticipation am I gonna fall?

864
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,320
Am I going to run into something? Or are they

865
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,639
going to run into me? Like there's something exciting about it.

866
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,039
I don't know what it is, So.

867
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:41,679
Speaker 1: That is interesting.

868
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have a note in here that I

869
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,599
have to ask you about the Lakers dinner.

870
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: Yes, can you tell us a little bit about that?

871
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,159
Speaker 2: Yes.

872
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:56,679
Speaker 4: So there's a there's a video online published by TMZ

873
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,159
and it's of me and my best friend and I'm

874
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:02,480
in this red dress with this big faux fur over

875
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:06,639
my shoulder, and we're outside this restaurant in Los Angeles

876
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:07,679
called Boa.

877
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: We would usually go.

878
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,039
Speaker 4: Out to dinner every once in a while, and at

879
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:16,679
dessert we would sprinkle a little magical fung guy onto

880
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,960
our dessert. So at the restaurant, we're having dessert, and

881
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,760
I just noticed there's this big table of beautiful girls,

882
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,039
model girls, and there's these security guys that keep coming out,

883
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:28,719
and they get two of them and they take them back,

884
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,719
get two of them, they take them back, and they're

885
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,159
just Boa in Boa. They're just funneling these girls to

886
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,559
this back room. And there's this big door with two

887
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,960
security guards on either side. And right as that magical

888
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,719
fung guy was kicking in, I look at my best

889
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,119
friend and I go, whoo, what do you think if

890
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,199
we just take a little walk back that way? I

891
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,199
bet they'll open the door for us. And she goes no,

892
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:50,320
why would we do that.

893
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm curious.

894
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 4: I want to know what's back there. She's like, all right,

895
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,199
I will follow your lead. So I confident as all hell, Like,

896
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:00,679
still can't believe I was it is confident.

897
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: Walk straight up to that door with those two security.

898
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 4: Guards, look at both of them, and they just open

899
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,039
the door and I walk right in.

900
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: It's the entire Lakers team.

901
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 4: Every single person in there, back when Kobe Bryant rip

902
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:20,599
was still playing for them, and all the lovely ladies.

903
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:24,079
So I am like, okay, let's let's just sneak in

904
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:24,920
here into the back.

905
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: So we kind of take a seat.

906
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,039
Speaker 1: Is it like a lounge area or it was a dinner.

907
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: It was a big dining table. Was a long dining table.

908
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,679
But there's a lot of girls standing around. There's a

909
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:35,320
few of the girls sitting at the table. So I'm like,

910
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,960
you know, if we just go stand in the background,

911
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,199
no one's even gonna notice us. One of the players

912
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,840
I won't name who out of respect, came right up

913
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,679
to me and go, Madison Ivy, you look just like

914
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,920
Jessica Rabbit tonight.

915
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: And I just.

916
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 4: Almost hit the floor because I was such a fan

917
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,400
and I was.

918
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: Just like, this might be the greatest moment of my

919
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,719
whole life. So I just laughing.

920
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 4: And then my lovely best friend ended up with one

921
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,840
of the other players, and man, he called her for

922
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:09,559
months after that.

923
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: Wow.

924
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: So it was a great night.

925
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 4: But there's a video of me on TMZ from that

926
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:19,760
night challenging Snoop Dogg to a smoke blunt smoking contest.

927
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,119
Speaker 2: I don't know what I was thinking.

928
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: So wait, Snoop was there too.

929
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: He wasn't there. I don't know why.

930
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: I just we went outside to smoke, and these cameras

931
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,239
just rushed up to us because we looked very lovely.

932
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,840
I think so they were just there because I think

933
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,880
they knew maybe that all the Lakers were there having dinner.

934
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,440
But they just started asking us questions. And I don't

935
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,639
know why. That one just started to come out of me.

936
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,679
I was like, well, we love to smoke. You know

937
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,599
who else likes to smoke? Snoop Dogg challenge.

938
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: Challenge and he never accepted the challenge.

939
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he never did.

940
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: Listen, Snoop, there's still time, there's still time. I know

941
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:59,079
you watched this podcast. Yeah, he I mean that guy

942
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,519
is he? I think everyone loves him. There's just something

943
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:05,760
so endearing about him. He just seems like such a

944
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,320
fun guy.

945
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: To Uncle Snell.

946
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: I feel like he just comes through just smelling all dandy.

947
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,079
Speaker 3: I remember so, I mean those paparazzi guys generally like

948
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:18,079
hang out outside, like, you know, famous restaurants. I remember

949
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:22,239
I went to, Oh fuck, was that vegan Mexican restaurant

950
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,840
off Melrose that everybody goes to.

951
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: Oh I know exactly what?

952
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:25,639
Speaker 5: Yes?

953
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: Yes, why am I spacing on the name.

954
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,159
Speaker 2: I'm terrible with names, honestly, Okay, I'm the worst.

955
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,679
Speaker 1: It's like it's Madre something.

956
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:36,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, not grossiest Madre?

957
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:39,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, okay, grossis Madre. I think we went

958
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,880
there for Jilliana Jenson's birthday or I don't know. I'm

959
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,360
pretty sure she was there. And then are these photographers

960
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,039
that were standing out outside and I come out and

961
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:52,400
I'm fully joking, but they don't really know what to

962
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,480
make of me, and I'm like, oh, oh my god,

963
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:55,639
this is so embarrassing.

964
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: They knew I was here. Oh okay, guys, it's fine.

965
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,599
Speaker 3: I'll pose for some pictures, but like, please just a

966
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:05,079
couple and like let me go, because like I'm here I'm.

967
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,519
Speaker 1: Here with friends, and you know, I'm like, I just

968
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:08,599
trying to keep it.

969
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: Look, I can some crime to see if that's okay,

970
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,599
respect the woman's space.

971
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,559
Speaker 3: And then so I just start like posing like this.

972
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,000
I'm like, okay, here's your moment. And these guys are

973
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,480
just like take it by photo because they're like, who.

974
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,039
Speaker 1: The fuck is this girl? But they were like, well,

975
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,559
maybe she's somewhat so we'll just take the pictures. Or

976
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:27,000
it's just awkward, so we'll just take her photos. So

977
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:28,400
she shuts up and goes away.

978
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:31,639
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's how you should definitely handle

979
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:33,199
anytime you see someone cameras.

980
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: I pretend like you're there for me, and they will be,

981
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,039
you know.

982
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:39,559
Speaker 2: I feel like.

983
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,599
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the new trend for gen Z, Like when

984
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:48,199
they're done storming the Scientology buildings, just find all the paparazzis.

985
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: And just like, oh no, no, I can't.

986
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,119
Speaker 3: So how is your relationship with your own sexuality shifted

987
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:56,360
over the course of your career and especially through your

988
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,400
years of recovery.

989
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,039
Speaker 4: Oh well, it's definitely I'm so much more a demi sexual.

990
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:06,360
I think when I was younger, I was just an animal.

991
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,519
You could literally just give me a body and I

992
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,559
just beast. But now I need romancing. I need kissing,

993
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,480
I need touching, I need foreplay. I know a lot

994
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:21,559
of people sometimes they feel like foreplay can just it

995
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:24,199
gets in the way, it's like too much at times.

996
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,440
But for me, I really need the foreplay now, especially kissing,

997
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,840
because one of the biggest things I feel like you

998
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,280
get on people's no lists is no kissing.

999
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there are general people that are like in relationships, yeah,

1000
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,599
somebody else who and respectly isn't fully okay, that's what

1001
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:41,920
they do.

1002
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 4: And if you're in a relationship, I totally understand that, uh,

1003
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:53,239
but especially in I dated someone recently actually who they

1004
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:58,039
did not like kissing. They have autism, so things coming

1005
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:01,440
close to their face was really difficult for them, and

1006
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,239
I started to realize I was like, oh, this isn't

1007
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,719
going to work.

1008
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: I need to.

1009
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,599
Speaker 4: Feel your mouth, that hot breath on my neck, on

1010
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,519
my ears, just I want to feel like I'm being

1011
00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,320
consumed by my person. And if you're not going to

1012
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,280
consume me, I can't be with you.

1013
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,079
Speaker 1: That leads me to the next question, how important is

1014
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:20,880
penisized to you?

1015
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,599
Speaker 2: Penis size is not important to me.

1016
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,199
Speaker 4: Actually I'm not a size queen, and I think that

1017
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:33,880
goes along with this person I dated. They were huge, huge,

1018
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,960
to the point where I felt like my pussy was

1019
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:41,119
being punched into my brain and without kissing and those

1020
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:44,960
that warmed me up, it was really it became very uncomfortable.

1021
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,559
So I started to feel like, well, you know, average

1022
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,440
is so much more my speed for like a daily

1023
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:53,920
fuck because I'm a daily fucker.

1024
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,679
Speaker 2: I want it every day if I can get it.

1025
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,519
But yeah, the big ones much.

1026
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 1: Sometime what's average to you or what's like an ideal

1027
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:03,840
size to you?

1028
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: Like five to six inches?

1029
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:08,599
Speaker 4: Okay, Like, yeah, I do feel like that type of

1030
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,039
human usually comes with the want of being a bit

1031
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,559
more of a romantic. Sometimes the size comes with this

1032
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,400
like bravado and a gust of I am badass and

1033
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:21,840
you are.

1034
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:24,599
Speaker 2: But if you're just going to slam your pelvis into me,

1035
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,199
that's that's not going to do anything.

1036
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, almost, like this thing that I have is all

1037
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,800
that I it's the impressive that's all I need.

1038
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's the it's the finishing move. Yeah right

1039
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:38,679
there for me, there's there's a million other moves between that.

1040
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:41,199
Speaker 3: I remember I dated a guy once he was really

1041
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,239
really good looking and had a really big dick, and

1042
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,679
it was the most boring.

1043
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,039
Speaker 1: Sect that my fucking life. Oh no, it was, but

1044
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:48,239
it was exactly that kind of thing.

1045
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: I think he just thought like, oh, well, I'm good

1046
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,920
looking and I have a big dicks, and so therefore,

1047
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:53,480
like I don't need to do anything.

1048
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 4: And I was like yeah, and our and our sex

1049
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,719
was honestly, it was amazing until it got to the

1050
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,280
point where I was like, well, I do need a

1051
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,000
little bit more of the other stuff. So make sure

1052
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,000
you give your partner the other stuff. Make sure you're

1053
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:10,320
always attentive to their body. I feel like sexuality and

1054
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,880
flirtation it doesn't just start right before sex. It's throughout

1055
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,000
the day. It's every time you walk past your partner

1056
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,599
and they're bent over getting something, You grab that ass,

1057
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,239
you give them a spank every time.

1058
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:23,119
Speaker 2: Every time.

1059
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: Well, I was actually gonna ask you, what advice would

1060
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,239
you give to men to become a better lover?

1061
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of just did. Is there

1062
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,000
anything else, like, maybe more physical or specific?

1063
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:35,639
Speaker 2: Ooh?

1064
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 4: I think the easiest one is for a lot of

1065
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,840
people feel like they have a hard time remembering things

1066
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,800
that they can do for their partner. But I feel

1067
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,000
like our partners always mention things that they like, that

1068
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:51,199
they want, that they're into. I keep a note in

1069
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,840
my phone anytime I date someone of the size of

1070
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,679
every single garment they wear, if they mention any sort

1071
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,760
of childhood toy to me that they've always wanted, that

1072
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,920
they've never gotten, their favorite color, their favorite food, how

1073
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,320
they like their coffee. I have just a dossier, a

1074
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:13,480
roller dix if you will, of what their dick is requiring,

1075
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,679
because I want them to know that I don't just

1076
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,239
care about their body, but their mind and their soul

1077
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:21,159
and their childlike mind's fulfillment.

1078
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:22,519
Speaker 2: So that's a big one.

1079
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: If you have a hard time remembering things, anytime your

1080
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,320
person says something, I love that that pair of socks.

1081
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,239
Oh I love this in that color? Da da dua,

1082
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,880
put that in your phone. Remember it for birthdays, Christmas,

1083
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,599
Valentine's Day, Then you have a whole dossier.

1084
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: You don't got a stress.

1085
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Is she not the perfect woman? I'm sorry? Is there

1086
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:45,920
anyone more perfect than this person? Right here? You you?

1087
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: I don't keep a dossier Every year. I buy my

1088
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,280
husband something he doesn't fucking want.

1089
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,679
Speaker 1: Every year. Almost like a joke out like I just

1090
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,719
he doesn't like anything that I get him.

1091
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:05,119
Speaker 2: Now, is he hard shopper?

1092
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: Like yes, okay, does he ever mention anything that he's

1093
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:11,280
into or is he one of the silent No?

1094
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: Not really, And if there is something that he wants,

1095
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,239
he goes and hits it his goddamn self.

1096
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,119
Speaker 1: So it's like, yep, it is impossible.

1097
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a hard one too, because I realize I'm

1098
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,719
kind of that kind of person. It's like always, we'll

1099
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,920
just handle it, like whatever it is, I'll handle it.

1100
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:29,840
So I would start to just realize, Okay, you need

1101
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,480
to start giving people hints of things and actively.

1102
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:36,119
Speaker 2: Not buy your yourself those things or do that for yourself.

1103
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,039
It's maddening.

1104
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:42,039
Speaker 1: I bought him some hands this year that wait.

1105
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:45,039
Speaker 2: Pants are pants like cooking?

1106
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: Like cooking? Okay, like to cook. He says they're lovely

1107
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,840
and he likes them, but he has.

1108
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:57,679
Speaker 5: An hmmm so suspicious suspicious Yeah, Like I give him children,

1109
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,480
so whatever, And that's the great thing you can give someone.

1110
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:05,079
Speaker 2: That is an that's a gift I'll probably never give somebody.

1111
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,599
Speaker 1: Do you is that not possible for you or do

1112
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:09,599
you just am not interested?

1113
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: Why should I don't know.

1114
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:14,079
Speaker 4: Actually, after the accident and after everything, there was a

1115
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:16,159
big question there if I can or if I can't.

1116
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:19,079
But I've never really gotten close enough to the moment,

1117
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,519
So I'm kind of like, if the moment never happens,

1118
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:25,920
it's not an end all, be all for me, because

1119
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:29,719
I would love to just devote my time to uh

1120
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,239
like charity and such and going and working at hospitals

1121
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,239
and being a candy striper and just bringing stuff around

1122
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,159
to make people's day.

1123
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: Ryan, I though, I mean, like the thing is is

1124
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:46,519
that I think that I mean I felt definitely before

1125
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:49,519
I had kids, because you know, I had Violet later, Yeah,

1126
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,480
it was forty when I got pregnant with her. You know,

1127
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,760
as women, we feel this pressure to have children huge,

1128
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:58,800
like even if we don't necessarily want them, and it's

1129
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,719
like a measure of you know, who we are as

1130
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,159
a person and all this kind of thing. But I

1131
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:09,679
think there's a lot of people who have kids who shouldn't. Yeah,

1132
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,880
that's a big one, and it's a it's a really

1133
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,760
it's going to change your life and it's a massive commitment.

1134
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,840
And I absolutely understand like some people that just don't

1135
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,840
want them, and it's really frustrating that.

1136
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: I feel like society shames people.

1137
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of shame there isn't there shame's.

1138
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,119
Speaker 1: Women for not wanting to have kids.

1139
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: Like, it's just like, I think you can live a wonderful, fulfilling,

1140
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:34,920
magical life without children.

1141
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:39,159
Speaker 2: Did you feel like you were hesitant to have children

1142
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,280
or did you always I always wanted kids, that is always,

1143
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:43,960
But I think that's how you should be.

1144
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I always wanted kids. But like

1145
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:48,639
then I ended up with the wrong guy. I was

1146
00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:50,639
married to the wrong guy for a while, and it

1147
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:55,280
actually it wasn't until I realized that maybe I could

1148
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,480
live because I stayed with him for a long time

1149
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:00,280
because I thought, Okay, I don't love him and our

1150
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,239
relationship between the two of us isn't fantastic, but he'd

1151
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,280
be a great father. Oh so I made this like

1152
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,239
deal with myself that I could stay with him because

1153
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,800
he'd be because that would be the good option with right,

1154
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,320
that makes sense. I was also like, oh, I'm thirty five,

1155
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,199
I'm ancient. I can't get divorced.

1156
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: No one will want me.

1157
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: Well, how many times do we hear in movies that, oh, well,

1158
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,039
she's hit twenty five, she's past her prime. Yeah, and

1159
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,400
that is such a silly concept because I feel like

1160
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,320
I get a lot of people and it's so flattering.

1161
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,760
I hope they're lying to me, or I hope they're

1162
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,119
not lying in a way that everyone keeps telling me

1163
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:35,960
that I look better now than ever before, and it's

1164
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,079
so sweet. But I'm like, but I'm, you know, not

1165
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,320
twenty five anymore. So am I past the expiration day?

1166
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: Like we say? Or do I look better than ever?

1167
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:47,440
I think I look better than ever?

1168
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:48,519
Speaker 1: You look better than ever?

1169
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: You're so sweet.

1170
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like I looked I looked way

1171
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,840
better in my thirties and like forties, and I did

1172
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,719
in my twenties. I was also drinking like a fucking

1173
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,760
fish in my twenties, so I floated and like pretty

1174
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,519
just alcohol, like bloat in my face.

1175
00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: It looks terrible. So I definitely think I look better now.

1176
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:08,639
Speaker 3: But you know, there's something and they're saying that comes

1177
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:14,599
with like confidence, experience, And I think, you know, beauty

1178
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,199
is physical, but I think the way that people see you,

1179
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,239
it's also the way you carry yourself. And I think

1180
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,960
that so that true factors into how attractive you are

1181
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,760
to other people.

1182
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 4: Hugely, because I've met some of the most gorgeous girls

1183
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:30,239
and just been in raptures at how stunning they are.

1184
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,199
And then they will be rude to the waiter or

1185
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just beyond disrespectful out of nowhere, and it's like a

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switch flips and it's like you can see every wrinkle,

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you can see the unevenness in their makeup, and I'm like,

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why wasn't that they're two seconds ago so interesting?

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Speaker 3: Now you said that you're back in the industry and

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you're ready for so much more.

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Speaker 1: What is so much more actually mean to medicson IVY

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right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like.

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Speaker 4: Because I had rushed to come back to the industry

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after my accident and I really was too nervous to

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do any of the I didn't have Boukcocky energy.

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Speaker 2: I need my Buukocki energy.

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Speaker 1: We are trademarking this, you know, we need T.

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Speaker 2: Shirts, we need mugs. I want like, oh, I do

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you want a license plate cover.

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Speaker 3: I'm literally going to check and see if you available

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after this. Nobody who's watched this life go fucking buy

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it right now.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I just haven't had my Boucocki energy until

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very recently so and even now I've still had to

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make adjustments because my health just took another little dip.

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It's it's so funny. The universe just likes to remind

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me be slow, take your time with things. So I'm

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excited for Bukocky's for Gangbangs, for dps.

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Speaker 2: I've never done a DP and I'm so nervous.

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Speaker 1: Crazy to me, I feel like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's long overdue, it's long over I've done two anal

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scenes in my fifteen plus years, so I've I had

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a beautiful, long career that I'm so grateful for.

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Speaker 2: But now because I have that Boukake energy and just

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the will and the want and the desire, yeah to

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get more power. Yeah, I'm just ready to go kind

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of all out.

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Speaker 3: Is there anyone in the industry now that you really

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want to do a scene with it? Maybe like wasn't

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around when you were working before.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I feel like there's so many people. Actually, I'm

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really looking forward to working with Hollywood Cash. We have

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had a few scenes that were supposed to get booked

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and then kind of just fell through. I also feel

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like I just don't know so many people, and I've

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been in my little hermit hole for so long that

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I need to go to parties.

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Speaker 2: I need to see who's out there.

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Speaker 4: I just like, I'm not on my phone as much,

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so I just don't get to see as many people.

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Speaker 2: But there's so many girls. There's so many girls that

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I'm dying.

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Speaker 3: I feel like our audience can help us out. So

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if you guys are watching this, drop a comment.

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Speaker 2: Who should Madison work with mendations? I love, love love recommendations.

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Speaker 3: I bet, I bet we'll get some really good ones,

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please please, all right, So my last question for you

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is if you could go back and tell your younger self,

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the one who had just landed the Browsers contract and

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had no idea what was coming, what would you tell them?

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Speaker 4: Don't go to Washington, DC. That's where my accident happen. Yes,

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don't go to DC. But I would just maybe tell

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her to put more stuff in your butt. Don't be afraid,

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don't be afraid, welcome it with open cheeks.

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Speaker 3: I'm expecting some really like inspirational, like to have patience life.

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Speaker 2: Will work out the way, or how much you can

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fit in your.

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Speaker 1: Love yourself. You're like, no more things of my butt? Yes,

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And I mean how could we get to end on

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that it was so perfect?

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Speaker 3: You know, oh god, well, I mean I could talk

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to you for another like ten hours, say, but it

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was such a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: To see you again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It is such a blessing

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to get to see you, my dear. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And then of course we do have our questions from

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our Patreon members. We have a lot of them, so

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we will be doing that in a second segment as usual.

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But in the meantime, can you tell everyone where they

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can find you online?

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Speaker 4: So right now you can find me on Instagram mad

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Ivy with a Z at the end m ad iv

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Y Z or on OnlyFans Madison four twenty Ivy love you.

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Speaker 3: All fantastic And then of course you guys can find

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me on Instagram and on x at Holly Randall. Once again,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for watching what We'll see

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you next week