WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.720 Yeah times man, congratulations, Man, mut is out and it's crazy. 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:04.480 Thank you. 3 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:06.240 Yeah. Now, listen, a lot of people are saying you're 4 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:09.720 bringing R and B back. I love that thing for you, yo, listen. 5 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:11.839 I mean, I'm just a real fan of all the 6 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:13.960 different generations of R and B. We tried to really 7 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:16.519 fit that into this album in a great way, and 8 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:18.039 it's cool to see people respond to it. 9 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:20.000 People love it. Man, TikTok loves it. 10 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:22.719 Yeah, TikTok's for showing love. I'm seeing lots of dances 11 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:24.160 and things. You know, I was a little scared. I 12 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:26.359 was like it was kind of old school, but I'm 13 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:28.719 glad that really, you know, resonating with the music. It 14 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:31.120 does have that that that vibe. There's that vibe, there's 15 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.679 that soulful vibe, exact classic R and B vibe. 16 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:35.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Some of the vocals are 17 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:38.719 drowned out. You know, a lot of the instruments are 18 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.479 being highlighted, and you play in. 19 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:44.640 The world raised guitar, drums, keys, and you know a 20 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:46.560 lot of my homies were playing on these records, and 21 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:48.399 it was cool to really jam through a lot of 22 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:50.880 it and you know, document that. I feel like that's 23 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:52.560 a piece that's kind of missing an R and B. 24 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.200 And I'm glad that you know, we're bringing the jam back. 25 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.439 That's right. What's crazy? And then you follow it up 26 00:00:57.439 --> 00:00:58.560 with a remix for Freddie Gibbs. 27 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:00.479 Oh that's my boy. That's my boy. You know, we 28 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.640 go way back. You know, he's one of my favorite lyricists, 29 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:06.040 especially all the stuff he was doing with Alchemists and 30 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:09.000 Mad Live and you know, just to really highlight his 31 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:12.640 greatness as well over a different landscape like R and. 32 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:14.000 B was really cool. It was a good mix. 33 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:16.519 Yeah, it was great to hear him on that for that, 34 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:18.799 my boy. Yep. I was tour. How's touring going? 35 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:20.040 Tour was amazing? Man? 36 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.760 Yeah, I mean tour is amazing, But it was kind 37 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:24.400 of scary at first because you know, they were telling 38 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.040 me like people weren't selling tickets right now. So I 39 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:29.319 was like, man, I hope people come out to CVS, 40 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:31.239 you know, check out our music and blame on a 41 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:32.640 medical medical emergency. 42 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:33.879 Yeah. 43 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.400 But when when we put the tickets up, we sold 44 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:39.040 it out in two weeks and it was my first 45 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.840 headline run, so it was cool to travel the country 46 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:44.439 and really see people enjoying the music in real life. 47 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:46.760 Yeah, I feel like that also contributes to like you 48 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:48.879 as an artist, you as a person that like your 49 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:51.560 core audience really you like. 50 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.040 Now that's showing up, that's show with you. Yeah. 51 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:55.000 Yeah, they're along for the. 52 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:56.000 Ride, absolutely. 53 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:57.120 And I mean I feel like a lot of my 54 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.079 core fan base, you know, they kind of grew up 55 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:00.920 with me back in the day, all of my Nickelodeon 56 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:05.000 stuff and stuff I was. It's kind of cool to 57 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.159 see all of them growing up. We're all doing all things. 58 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:11.240 They got nose rings, tattoos. I'm like, let's go, let's 59 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:12.560 get it. 60 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:17.360 I have a nose, but I have the tattoo. It's 61 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:19.800 like one of the other yo I do. 62 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.680 It's such a song, it's such a such a piece, 63 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:24.840 not even a song, it's. 64 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:25.800 A piece absolutely. 65 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:28.439 I mean, that's that's me manifesting wanting to be married 66 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.719 one day. Yeah, and like that feeling. I mean, it's 67 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:32.120 really like the core of you. 68 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:32.719 Yeah. 69 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:34.639 It's one of those records that I feel like it 70 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:37.039 could be the soundtrack to a guy who's had a 71 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:40.520 trouble past with you know, girls finally falling in love. 72 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.120 And I think that's a that's a real thing that 73 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:44.840 I feel like a lot of the toxic R and 74 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:46.000 B doesn't talk about as much. 75 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.159 So I wanted to show both sides, you know, right 76 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:49.159 right right, like like. 77 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:50.599 Yo, you're toxic, I'm toxic. 78 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:52.240 Let's do this together, let's do this together. 79 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:54.479 By let's do this together, I'm putting that away. I'm 80 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:55.800 hanging up to play a jersey. 81 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:56.879 I feel like. 82 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.719 That's something that a lot of people have been appreciating 83 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:03.199 about out is that, like you said, there's this fine 84 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:05.879 line of like, Okay, there's the non toxic and the 85 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:08.840 toxic so and it's a perfect balance of it. Do 86 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:10.719 you feel like you belong to the streets more or 87 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.199 do you just want to like settle down? 88 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.840 Well, you know, honestly, I definitely want to settle down, 89 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:16.479 but I want to do it the right way. 90 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:16.639 You know. 91 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:18.479 I've seen a lot of my friends rush into long 92 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:19.680 term relationships and. 93 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:20.479 Regret it later. 94 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:22.639 Your time, But yeah, I'm taking my time, you know, 95 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.319 I'm building real friendships right now. I'm definitely not like 96 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:28.479 belonging to the streets. I just think I like to document. 97 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:31.360 I like to document what I see, you know what 98 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:33.879 I mean. I'm in Hollywood, I'm in La I'm seeing 99 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:35.719 a lot man, a lot of ups and down a 100 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.039 lot with everybody. So it's just like, what can I 101 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.280 do to kind of be the soundtrack to all these 102 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:41.199 toxic podcasts? 103 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:41.879 You know, Like. 104 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.560 It's like, oh, Mike soundtracks. You know, I've been a 105 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:48.360 case for ten years. Dog, I'm still trying to figure 106 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:48.599 it out. 107 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.719 You're right, right exactly. Yeah, make sure she's the one. 108 00:03:51.759 --> 00:04:02.280 We have two kids, she's almost she's okay, someone's out 109 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:02.560 the door. 110 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.479 Feelings on sit I love that, Thank you, yo. 111 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:07.479 I love the production on it. 112 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:08.199 This thanks a lot. 113 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:13.319 My brother Crazy Conductor is one of my favorite producers. 114 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:14.960 Like I said, I like a lot of that, like 115 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.600 low five hip hop. So I'm a big fan of Griselda. 116 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:19.680 When I started looking up who was producing a lot 117 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:21.560 of their stuff, I found Conductor. 118 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:22.600 I hit him up. 119 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:24.519 And it's kind of funny when I when I hit 120 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:27.439 up a producer, I like, I'll usually tell him about 121 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:28.680 the person I'm working with. 122 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:30.519 And at the time, I was working with Ya and. 123 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.759 Todd Dollars signed on Vultures, so I was like, yeah, 124 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:34.920 you know, Ya, you need some joints in Italy. Yeah, yeah, 125 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:38.480 I was in Italy, which was true, but he sent 126 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:39.959 that one and I was like, man, this is perfect 127 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:42.839 for my stuff. So I ended up recording it at 128 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.439 the Medici estate in Italy. Man I was walking around 129 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.399 the guard and listening to it, writing lyrics and coming 130 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.480 up with vibes. Went and recorded it, and once I 131 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.279 got back home, I had a meeting with wil A 132 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:55.920 about just you know, cooking up some music and I 133 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:58.120 played it for him and he immediately took to it. 134 00:04:58.199 --> 00:04:59.120 So it took some. 135 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.879 Time to get the record like completely finalized, but it 136 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:04.519 was a beautiful process of like taking a really amazing 137 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:08.000 instrumental and adding live strings to it and really cool 138 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.079 vocals that literally took it there. 139 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:11.720 What is something that we don't know when it comes 140 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:13.959 to putting the song together like that? Right, Like there's 141 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:16.360 a lot of legal behind it as well. Absolutely, you 142 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:18.639 know you got to make sure everything sounds right obviously, 143 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:20.040 right with like the mix and stuff. 144 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:22.480 Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, music is a process. 145 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:24.560 You know, there's some people who mic awave their music, 146 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:26.560 and there's some people who take it to the oven. 147 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:28.800 You know, there's some people who Brian you know, have 148 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.759 it in there for a long time. This is me 149 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:32.720 like kind of like this is me kind of like 150 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.000 you know, acclimating it to to food. But you know, 151 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:38.959 to be real, my music is definitely a home cooked meal. 152 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.199 You know, nothing, mic Awave. We take our time and 153 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:47.839 you know, yeah, I mean it's exactly right. Yeah, it's 154 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:49.920 from scratch and we're trying to figure it out. You know, 155 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.319 I really respect a lot of the co producers who 156 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:54.639 really came in to help turn this into a movie. 157 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:56.959 Crazy so La is a wild place. You know this 158 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:01.240 absolutely and heard it all right, but like, what what's 159 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:04.319 the story you You you lived in a like in 160 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.240 an apartment and you woke up one day and someone's 161 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:08.000 robbing your house and they're literally on your couch. 162 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.519 Chill, No, man, I finally purchased my first home in 163 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:14.920 l A. I'm pretty excited. Yes, is like my home home. 164 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.480 So I finally purchased my crib. I'm in there for 165 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.920 about like a year. Everything was fine. I mean it's 166 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.360 a really beautiful neighborhood. But it was my fault. 167 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:22.600 You know. 168 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:25.560 I got some uber eats and h I fell asleep 169 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.439 on the couch and I just decided to go to 170 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:29.680 sleep after after I got the food, but forgot to 171 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:33.720 lock the door. My dog starts barking, and I go 172 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.240 to my living room and there's a stranger on my 173 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:43.399 couch just sitting there. Smell like mad Coronas. He I mean, 174 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:46.199 you know, I didn't want to make that. He definitely 175 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:48.600 smelled like a lot of Coronas. And my boy just 176 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:51.279 looked confused. He was like, hold look what, I'm like, 177 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:52.439 what get. 178 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:56.639 Out of my home. Looked at me like, I'm like, 179 00:06:56.680 --> 00:06:57.480 what are you doing here? 180 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.680 And I'm like, yo, fam, you got to go, you 181 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.279 got to And what's crazy is that? Like he was like, no, 182 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.120 I have to tell you something. And then I just 183 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.560 watched John Wick, so you were hype. 184 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:09.879 I sick my dog on him. 185 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:11.600 I said, get him, boy, get him, get my dog 186 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.120 comes running out, he's barking. Guy ran out the crib. 187 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:16.199 You know, never to be heard from again. You know, 188 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:20.920 we just always locked doors. Now we locked doors, surveillance, 189 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:22.600 I have all of that. But this was this is 190 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:24.759 a lapse in judgment, man, Probably the only time I've 191 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:25.279 ever done that. 192 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.879 But yeah, it was. It was a crazy story. 193 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:34.079 Is a fun fact, I spelled like Corona's right now. 194 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:38.680 All No, he was just there. It was. 195 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:40.160 It was actually kind of creepy because he was just 196 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:42.800 sitting there like just looking confused, and I'm like, okay, 197 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.199 he was a naked or anything. Nah, the brother was 198 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:47.800 just really drunk. Man, Yeah, he was just really drunk. 199 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:49.120 Is what it is. 200 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:50.439 Do you follow a report? 201 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.079 I thought about it, right, but I'm thinking about it. 202 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:57.000 It was really on me, so yeah, I left it unlocked, 203 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:58.600 you know, but it is what it is. 204 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:00.160 You're a nice guy. 205 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:03.439 Yeah, I guess, so, I guess so, I guess so 206 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:08.279 did you buy a gun after that? Absolutely in your 207 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.519 living room? Just like nothing but like kitchen knives. Come on, 208 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:15.399 I'm around to cut myself. 209 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:19.399 The guys judge me so hard because whenever like my 210 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:21.959 man is out of like the apartment is traveling, I 211 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.480 sleep with a knife on the bedside. Oh wow, I'm 212 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.759 just like I have taser, pepper spray and everything. 213 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:34.320 Yeah yeah, yeah your kitchen. Yeah, it's better to be 214 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:35.080 safe than sorry. 215 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.480 I ain't mad at what kind of gun did you buy? 216 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:38.519 And did you write a song about it? 217 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:38.759 Yet? 218 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:45.720 You brock it's that block, right, I don't want to 219 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:46.960 get it wrong. I get on. 220 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:50.879 So yeah, you then you have to learn how to 221 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:52.159 use it, obviously. 222 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.320 Then you got trying to hit the gun range trying 223 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:54.840 to get right. 224 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.840 You know, my boy actually has this really cool training 225 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.039 facility up northern California somewhere, and he was saying I 226 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.200 could go over there and really become John Wick. So 227 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:07.200 that's my my next move. Man. Mario, another R and 228 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.159 B brother is always over there. I mean, he's looking 229 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:10.240 real good with the gun now. 230 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:12.480 Man, it's crazy though. 231 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:13.480 We have to protect our home. 232 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.639 We got to protect it takes you know, there's a 233 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:17.799 place right here in Burbank. 234 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.360 Oh really, literally right up the street. I'm not a 235 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:26.240 big gun guy. Yeah, I'm not either, but but cruises 236 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:27.799 never shot a gun? Have you ever shot a gun? 237 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:29.120 No, I've never show them. 238 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:44.080 I'm actually down Let's Corona, yo. Yeah I've never shot 239 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:45.120 a gun. What does that feel like? 240 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.799 I feel you know, it kind of helps you understand 241 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.039 why people go crazy, because there's there's definitely a lot 242 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:52.879 of power associated with it, you know. 243 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.080 But for me, it's it's just, you know, strictly for protection. 244 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.759 Yeah, mut is out man in this quality ARM and 245 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:02.200 B with so much going on right like, thank you 246 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.879 have to carve out some time to make this album. 247 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.159 What was that process like and how long was that problem? 248 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:08.399 Well? 249 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:10.960 It was about two and a half years really just 250 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.480 finding myself. You know, I think when I dropped my 251 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.399 first album, I don't feel like I was rushed into 252 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:18.240 it because that one it took a long time to 253 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.000 make two. But you know, I knew that I had 254 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.440 to release two albums in my first album cycle with 255 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.039 my label. So there was an element with Mud of urgency, 256 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.639 and I really wanted to win. I wanted to show 257 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.799 Tie and Sean Baron over a easy money that you know, 258 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:36.639 they betted on the right guy. So I really put, 259 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:38.200 you know, my heart and soul into this, and I'm 260 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:39.799 just glad people are really resonating with it. 261 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.159 Yeah, man, you know. And then on top of Mud, right, 262 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:44.320 there's so much work that you've done outside of that 263 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:44.759 as well. 264 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:46.120 Absolutely Gammy with. 265 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.600 His dog Yeah man, yeah, you keep the Grammy, you 266 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:49.919 keep it saying yeah, I got hit. 267 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:51.919 In my out living room in a lock cabinet. It's 268 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:55.559 real nice, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. When people come through. 269 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:58.279 It's really just a great I just told them of 270 00:10:58.320 --> 00:10:59.639 a lot of the hard work I've done in the 271 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:02.039 music industry. You know, I went for years without people 272 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.279 really noticing some of the things I was, you know, 273 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:06.480 a part of as a producer and a songwriter. So 274 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.200 I thought it felt really good to you know, have 275 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:11.519 that moment in the you know, in the spotlight for sure. 276 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:14.360 Yeah. Is that frustrating, right, being so successful but not 277 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:16.799 necessarily being in front. 278 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.200 Not necessarily because you know, for me, I knew I 279 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:21.600 was building a great catalog. That was mean, it's the 280 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:24.600 proby to market myself, you know. So it's the process 281 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:27.279 of building a business. And I looked at songwriting and 282 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:30.159 production and something separate from what I did as an actor. 283 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.720 I didn't come through with an entitled attitude. It was 284 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:36.200 just like, let me actually learn, let me sit down 285 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:38.279 with the grace like Babyface. I studied under for a 286 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:41.000 long time and then even working with boy Wonder, I 287 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.039 was able to really figure out how to curate a 288 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:45.360 good record for somebody. 289 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.320 And that took time. Man, it really wasn't easy. 290 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:53.000 You got good parents, oh yeah, really good family. 291 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:55.279 Yeah I'm child acting day, No, not at all, man. 292 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:58.000 It was all love. It was all love. I will 293 00:11:58.039 --> 00:11:58.440 say that. 294 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.919 You know, that child act experience was like a startup 295 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.320 between me and my mom, just like coming together and 296 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:05.320 plotting about. 297 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:06.399 Like so what do we do next day? 298 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:06.960 Being a team. 299 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.639 It was so cool to have a team member that 300 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:11.960 genuinely cared about me. She was never on some Joe 301 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:13.480 Jackson like you have to do this. 302 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:14.120 You know. 303 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.480 It was always like, well, if you still want to 304 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.480 do it, you got to have good grades, and I 305 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.399 think we should go with this network, or we should 306 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:23.000 try this role, or let's just kind of tap in. 307 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:24.639 And I've always done my. 308 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.600 Best to pay it forward for her because she's she's 309 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:29.360 such a beautiful, beautiful soul who really got. 310 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:29.799 Me in the right direct. 311 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:31.799 You're a breadwinner, that a yeah. 312 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:32.360 For some time. 313 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.519 For some time, I mean, because she had to quit 314 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:37.639 her job in order to even like things got real, man. 315 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:39.720 I mean, I did three Broadway plays in three years, 316 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:42.360 and then I was doing movies with Robin Williams, TV 317 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:46.120 shows on Nickelodeon, flying all over the country. It became 318 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.759 tough for her to really sustain her own business, which 319 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:51.240 was really successful in New York at the time. But 320 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.720 you know, I really respect her for pouring into me 321 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:55.200 in that way. 322 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:58.080 Yeah, man, she did, man, she raised the real one. 323 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.320 Not for sure, for sure love Yeah, yeah, yeah, you 324 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:02.000 know what I mean. Honestly, everything I do even to 325 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.559 this day is just to continue to build a safety 326 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:05.720 net for my tribe. 327 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:07.960 It's like my tribe first, people second, you know, that's it. 328 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:12.879 Yeah, yeah, I want to know, have you seen Wicked yet? 329 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.440 I haven't seen Wicked, and I've been beating myself up 330 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.200 about it. But I've been on the road, so it's 331 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:19.720 kind of tough to like carve out time to go 332 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.200 to the movies. But shout out to Arianna. Man, that's 333 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:23.279 my friend's life. 334 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:23.600 Yo. 335 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.919 It's it's crazy, but you know what's wild. I always 336 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:28.519 knew she was going to be a mega star. She 337 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.679 was like good at being famous at sixteen. 338 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.159 I've never seen anything quite like it. Like, she was 339 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:34.759 just really good at being famous. 340 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.679 So I knew this guy, like yeah, yeah, yeah, she 341 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.919 understood it early, just really got the game from how 342 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:43.840 to you know, utilize social media to her advantage. She 343 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:46.600 was a YouTube star before she even really started dropping 344 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.080 music officially. And to see her, you know, turn that 345 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:53.200 data into into hit records was like the first time 346 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.200 I saw it happen and I was like, Okay, that's 347 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:55.799 the formula. 348 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:57.480 You know, that's an actor is there? 349 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.960 Kind of like, uh, I guess what's the biggest difference 350 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.639 when it comes to Broadway stage acting and studio acting. 351 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.919 Well, I feel like for Broadway you have to perform 352 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.960 for the people in the back of the audience. For film, 353 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.039 it's all in the eyes, it's all in the intention 354 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:15.679 and listening, you know, to the other person. It has 355 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.279 to feel like a real conversation. On Broadway, I feel 356 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.879 like you kind of have to overact just a little 357 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:23.720 bit in order to, you know, for everybody to feel 358 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:24.440 it exactly. 359 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:31.879 Yeah, yeah, yeah, your whole body story exactly exactly on Broadway, 360 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:33.440 Downtown Broadway. 361 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:39.759 I've done something pantages, yeah, yeah, yeah. 362 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:42.159 Man, man, you stay working, man. 363 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:44.240 It doesn't stop. It doesn't stop. Man. 364 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:45.960 But but I'm really blessed to do what I do. 365 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.360 I think about all the other jobs I could have 366 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.840 had about it. I'm really happy that I'm that I'm 367 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:53.840 doing something that I'm passionate about. And it's it's really fun, 368 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:55.840 you know. I Mean, there's this ups and downs, but 369 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:57.200 overall it's really fun. 370 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:00.039 Yo far fest with tie dollars sign right, like you 371 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:01.360 guys get that done in Italy as well. 372 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.320 No, no, now far fetched. 373 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:07.080 I put together a long time ago, right around the 374 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.360 time when I was doing like some of the stuff 375 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:12.919 a certified lover boy, and it was a track that 376 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:16.159 was really fun. Do you guys remember Ryan Leslie? Yeah, 377 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.759 it was like a Ryan Leslie moment for me. So 378 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.039 I'm in the studio. 379 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:21.039 Remember YouTube channel. 380 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:24.279 Yeah, I'm super inspired by him. So, like bro, I 381 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:25.000 still watch that. 382 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:28.679 It was a Ryan was the instrument and with it 383 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:30.000 pays for it with his black cars. 384 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.519 Some of the best YouTube series moments ever seen in 385 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:33.279 music production. 386 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:35.639 But I've always been inspired by him. 387 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:37.320 And far Fetch was a song that was kind of 388 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:39.840 built in that same breadth and me just really jamming 389 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:41.960 out on different instruments. And I had the song for 390 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:44.600 a long time and my boy boy Wonder was like, Yo, 391 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:47.320 you should finish that. And I couldn't think of a 392 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:49.399 second verse. So I played it for Tie and he 393 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:51.559 was like, man, I'm down, let's do it. 394 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.519 Yeah yeah, and it turned into magic. I'm like, well, yeah, 395 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.559 let's go. Let's go. 396 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:59.759 Had an La legend lock in and really like take 397 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:01.120 it two x. 398 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:04.679 He also plays many instruments. Oh yeah, he's a writer. 399 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:06.679 We just had the l A show, you know. 400 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:09.679 We had we had Todd Dallas on pop Out and 401 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:11.639