Speaker 1: Yeah times man, congratulations, Man, mut is out and it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, listen, a lot of people are saying you're
Speaker 1: bringing R and B back. I love that thing for you, yo, listen.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just a real fan of all the
Speaker 3: different generations of R and B. We tried to really
Speaker 3: fit that into this album in a great way, and
Speaker 3: it's cool to see people respond to it.
Speaker 1: People love it. Man, TikTok loves it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, TikTok's for showing love. I'm seeing lots of dances
Speaker 3: and things. You know, I was a little scared. I
Speaker 3: was like it was kind of old school, but I'm
Speaker 3: glad that really, you know, resonating with the music. It
Speaker 3: does have that that that vibe. There's that vibe, there's
Speaker 3: that soulful vibe, exact classic R and B vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Some of the vocals are
Speaker 1: drowned out. You know, a lot of the instruments are
Speaker 1: being highlighted, and you play in.
Speaker 3: The world raised guitar, drums, keys, and you know a
Speaker 3: lot of my homies were playing on these records, and
Speaker 3: it was cool to really jam through a lot of
Speaker 3: it and you know, document that. I feel like that's
Speaker 3: a piece that's kind of missing an R and B.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad that you know, we're bringing the jam back.
Speaker 1: That's right. What's crazy? And then you follow it up
Speaker 1: with a remix for Freddie Gibbs.
Speaker 3: Oh that's my boy. That's my boy. You know, we
Speaker 3: go way back. You know, he's one of my favorite lyricists,
Speaker 3: especially all the stuff he was doing with Alchemists and
Speaker 3: Mad Live and you know, just to really highlight his
Speaker 3: greatness as well over a different landscape like R and.
Speaker 2: B was really cool. It was a good mix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great to hear him on that for that,
Speaker 1: my boy. Yep. I was tour. How's touring going?
Speaker 2: Tour was amazing? Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean tour is amazing, But it was kind
Speaker 3: of scary at first because you know, they were telling
Speaker 3: me like people weren't selling tickets right now. So I
Speaker 3: was like, man, I hope people come out to CVS,
Speaker 3: you know, check out our music and blame on a
Speaker 3: medical medical emergency.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But when when we put the tickets up, we sold
Speaker 3: it out in two weeks and it was my first
Speaker 3: headline run, so it was cool to travel the country
Speaker 3: and really see people enjoying the music in real life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that also contributes to like you
Speaker 4: as an artist, you as a person that like your
Speaker 4: core audience really you like.
Speaker 2: Now that's showing up, that's show with you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're along for the.
Speaker 2: Ride, absolutely.
Speaker 3: And I mean I feel like a lot of my
Speaker 3: core fan base, you know, they kind of grew up
Speaker 3: with me back in the day, all of my Nickelodeon
Speaker 3: stuff and stuff I was. It's kind of cool to
Speaker 3: see all of them growing up. We're all doing all things.
Speaker 3: They got nose rings, tattoos. I'm like, let's go, let's
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 2: I have a nose, but I have the tattoo. It's
Speaker 2: like one of the other yo I do.
Speaker 1: It's such a song, it's such a such a piece,
Speaker 1: not even a song, it's.
Speaker 2: A piece absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's me manifesting wanting to be married
Speaker 3: one day. Yeah, and like that feeling. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: really like the core of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's one of those records that I feel like it
Speaker 3: could be the soundtrack to a guy who's had a
Speaker 3: trouble past with you know, girls finally falling in love.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a that's a real thing that
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of the toxic R and
Speaker 3: B doesn't talk about as much.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to show both sides, you know, right
Speaker 2: right right, like like.
Speaker 1: Yo, you're toxic, I'm toxic.
Speaker 2: Let's do this together, let's do this together.
Speaker 3: By let's do this together, I'm putting that away. I'm
Speaker 3: hanging up to play a jersey.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 4: That's something that a lot of people have been appreciating
Speaker 4: about out is that, like you said, there's this fine
Speaker 4: line of like, Okay, there's the non toxic and the
Speaker 4: toxic so and it's a perfect balance of it. Do
Speaker 4: you feel like you belong to the streets more or
Speaker 4: do you just want to like settle down?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, honestly, I definitely want to settle down,
Speaker 3: but I want to do it the right way.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of my friends rush into long
Speaker 3: term relationships and.
Speaker 2: Regret it later.
Speaker 3: Your time, But yeah, I'm taking my time, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm building real friendships right now. I'm definitely not like
Speaker 3: belonging to the streets. I just think I like to document.
Speaker 3: I like to document what I see, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I'm in Hollywood, I'm in La I'm seeing
Speaker 3: a lot man, a lot of ups and down a
Speaker 3: lot with everybody. So it's just like, what can I
Speaker 3: do to kind of be the soundtrack to all these
Speaker 3: toxic podcasts?
Speaker 2: You know, Like.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Mike soundtracks. You know, I've been a
Speaker 1: case for ten years. Dog, I'm still trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 2: You're right, right exactly. Yeah, make sure she's the one.
Speaker 1: We have two kids, she's almost she's okay, someone's out
Speaker 1: the door.
Speaker 2: Feelings on sit I love that, Thank you, yo.
Speaker 1: I love the production on it.
Speaker 2: This thanks a lot.
Speaker 3: My brother Crazy Conductor is one of my favorite producers.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I like a lot of that, like
Speaker 3: low five hip hop. So I'm a big fan of Griselda.
Speaker 3: When I started looking up who was producing a lot
Speaker 3: of their stuff, I found Conductor.
Speaker 2: I hit him up.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of funny when I when I hit
Speaker 3: up a producer, I like, I'll usually tell him about
Speaker 3: the person I'm working with.
Speaker 2: And at the time, I was working with Ya and.
Speaker 3: Todd Dollars signed on Vultures, so I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, Ya, you need some joints in Italy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was in Italy, which was true, but he sent
Speaker 3: that one and I was like, man, this is perfect
Speaker 3: for my stuff. So I ended up recording it at
Speaker 3: the Medici estate in Italy. Man I was walking around
Speaker 3: the guard and listening to it, writing lyrics and coming
Speaker 3: up with vibes. Went and recorded it, and once I
Speaker 3: got back home, I had a meeting with wil A
Speaker 3: about just you know, cooking up some music and I
Speaker 3: played it for him and he immediately took to it.
Speaker 2: So it took some.
Speaker 3: Time to get the record like completely finalized, but it
Speaker 3: was a beautiful process of like taking a really amazing
Speaker 3: instrumental and adding live strings to it and really cool
Speaker 3: vocals that literally took it there.
Speaker 1: What is something that we don't know when it comes
Speaker 1: to putting the song together like that? Right, Like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of legal behind it as well. Absolutely, you
Speaker 1: know you got to make sure everything sounds right obviously,
Speaker 1: right with like the mix and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, music is a process.
Speaker 3: You know, there's some people who mic awave their music,
Speaker 3: and there's some people who take it to the oven.
Speaker 3: You know, there's some people who Brian you know, have
Speaker 3: it in there for a long time. This is me
Speaker 3: like kind of like this is me kind of like
Speaker 3: you know, acclimating it to to food. But you know,
Speaker 3: to be real, my music is definitely a home cooked meal.
Speaker 3: You know, nothing, mic Awave. We take our time and
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I mean it's exactly right. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: from scratch and we're trying to figure it out. You know,
Speaker 3: I really respect a lot of the co producers who
Speaker 3: really came in to help turn this into a movie.
Speaker 1: Crazy so La is a wild place. You know this
Speaker 1: absolutely and heard it all right, but like, what what's
Speaker 1: the story you You you lived in a like in
Speaker 1: an apartment and you woke up one day and someone's
Speaker 1: robbing your house and they're literally on your couch.
Speaker 3: Chill, No, man, I finally purchased my first home in
Speaker 3: l A. I'm pretty excited. Yes, is like my home home.
Speaker 3: So I finally purchased my crib. I'm in there for
Speaker 3: about like a year. Everything was fine. I mean it's
Speaker 3: a really beautiful neighborhood. But it was my fault.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I got some uber eats and h I fell asleep
Speaker 3: on the couch and I just decided to go to
Speaker 3: sleep after after I got the food, but forgot to
Speaker 3: lock the door. My dog starts barking, and I go
Speaker 3: to my living room and there's a stranger on my
Speaker 3: couch just sitting there. Smell like mad Coronas. He I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't want to make that. He definitely
Speaker 3: smelled like a lot of Coronas. And my boy just
Speaker 3: looked confused. He was like, hold look what, I'm like,
Speaker 3: what get.
Speaker 2: Out of my home. Looked at me like, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing here?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yo, fam, you got to go, you
Speaker 3: got to And what's crazy is that? Like he was like, no,
Speaker 3: I have to tell you something. And then I just
Speaker 3: watched John Wick, so you were hype.
Speaker 2: I sick my dog on him.
Speaker 3: I said, get him, boy, get him, get my dog
Speaker 3: comes running out, he's barking. Guy ran out the crib.
Speaker 3: You know, never to be heard from again. You know,
Speaker 3: we just always locked doors. Now we locked doors, surveillance,
Speaker 3: I have all of that. But this was this is
Speaker 3: a lapse in judgment, man, Probably the only time I've
Speaker 3: ever done that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was a crazy story.
Speaker 1: Is a fun fact, I spelled like Corona's right now.
Speaker 2: All No, he was just there. It was.
Speaker 3: It was actually kind of creepy because he was just
Speaker 3: sitting there like just looking confused, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: he was a naked or anything. Nah, the brother was
Speaker 3: just really drunk. Man, Yeah, he was just really drunk.
Speaker 3: Is what it is.
Speaker 1: Do you follow a report?
Speaker 2: I thought about it, right, but I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2: It was really on me, so yeah, I left it unlocked,
Speaker 2: you know, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: You're a nice guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, so, I guess so, I guess so
Speaker 3: did you buy a gun after that? Absolutely in your
Speaker 3: living room? Just like nothing but like kitchen knives. Come on,
Speaker 3: I'm around to cut myself.
Speaker 4: The guys judge me so hard because whenever like my
Speaker 4: man is out of like the apartment is traveling, I
Speaker 4: sleep with a knife on the bedside. Oh wow, I'm
Speaker 4: just like I have taser, pepper spray and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah your kitchen. Yeah, it's better to be
Speaker 2: safe than sorry.
Speaker 1: I ain't mad at what kind of gun did you buy?
Speaker 1: And did you write a song about it?
Speaker 5: Yet?
Speaker 2: You brock it's that block, right, I don't want to
Speaker 2: get it wrong. I get on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you then you have to learn how to
Speaker 1: use it, obviously.
Speaker 2: Then you got trying to hit the gun range trying
Speaker 2: to get right.
Speaker 3: You know, my boy actually has this really cool training
Speaker 3: facility up northern California somewhere, and he was saying I
Speaker 3: could go over there and really become John Wick. So
Speaker 3: that's my my next move. Man. Mario, another R and
Speaker 3: B brother is always over there. I mean, he's looking
Speaker 3: real good with the gun now.
Speaker 1: Man, it's crazy though.
Speaker 2: We have to protect our home.
Speaker 3: We got to protect it takes you know, there's a
Speaker 3: place right here in Burbank.
Speaker 2: Oh really, literally right up the street. I'm not a
Speaker 2: big gun guy. Yeah, I'm not either, but but cruises
Speaker 2: never shot a gun? Have you ever shot a gun?
Speaker 4: No, I've never show them.
Speaker 2: I'm actually down Let's Corona, yo. Yeah I've never shot
Speaker 2: a gun. What does that feel like?
Speaker 3: I feel you know, it kind of helps you understand
Speaker 3: why people go crazy, because there's there's definitely a lot
Speaker 3: of power associated with it, you know.
Speaker 2: But for me, it's it's just, you know, strictly for protection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mut is out man in this quality ARM and
Speaker 1: B with so much going on right like, thank you
Speaker 1: have to carve out some time to make this album.
Speaker 1: What was that process like and how long was that problem?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: It was about two and a half years really just
Speaker 3: finding myself. You know, I think when I dropped my
Speaker 3: first album, I don't feel like I was rushed into
Speaker 3: it because that one it took a long time to
Speaker 3: make two. But you know, I knew that I had
Speaker 3: to release two albums in my first album cycle with
Speaker 3: my label. So there was an element with Mud of urgency,
Speaker 3: and I really wanted to win. I wanted to show
Speaker 3: Tie and Sean Baron over a easy money that you know,
Speaker 3: they betted on the right guy. So I really put,
Speaker 3: you know, my heart and soul into this, and I'm
Speaker 3: just glad people are really resonating with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know. And then on top of Mud, right,
Speaker 1: there's so much work that you've done outside of that
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Absolutely Gammy with.
Speaker 1: His dog Yeah man, yeah, you keep the Grammy, you
Speaker 1: keep it saying yeah, I got hit.
Speaker 2: In my out living room in a lock cabinet. It's
Speaker 2: real nice, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. When people come through.
Speaker 3: It's really just a great I just told them of
Speaker 3: a lot of the hard work I've done in the
Speaker 3: music industry. You know, I went for years without people
Speaker 3: really noticing some of the things I was, you know,
Speaker 3: a part of as a producer and a songwriter. So
Speaker 3: I thought it felt really good to you know, have
Speaker 3: that moment in the you know, in the spotlight for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is that frustrating, right, being so successful but not
Speaker 1: necessarily being in front.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily because you know, for me, I knew I
Speaker 3: was building a great catalog. That was mean, it's the
Speaker 3: proby to market myself, you know. So it's the process
Speaker 3: of building a business. And I looked at songwriting and
Speaker 3: production and something separate from what I did as an actor.
Speaker 3: I didn't come through with an entitled attitude. It was
Speaker 3: just like, let me actually learn, let me sit down
Speaker 3: with the grace like Babyface. I studied under for a
Speaker 3: long time and then even working with boy Wonder, I
Speaker 3: was able to really figure out how to curate a
Speaker 3: good record for somebody.
Speaker 2: And that took time. Man, it really wasn't easy.
Speaker 1: You got good parents, oh yeah, really good family.
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm child acting day, No, not at all, man.
Speaker 2: It was all love. It was all love. I will
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 3: You know, that child act experience was like a startup
Speaker 3: between me and my mom, just like coming together and
Speaker 3: plotting about.
Speaker 2: Like so what do we do next day?
Speaker 1: Being a team.
Speaker 3: It was so cool to have a team member that
Speaker 3: genuinely cared about me. She was never on some Joe
Speaker 3: Jackson like you have to do this.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It was always like, well, if you still want to
Speaker 3: do it, you got to have good grades, and I
Speaker 3: think we should go with this network, or we should
Speaker 3: try this role, or let's just kind of tap in.
Speaker 2: And I've always done my.
Speaker 3: Best to pay it forward for her because she's she's
Speaker 3: such a beautiful, beautiful soul who really got.
Speaker 2: Me in the right direct.
Speaker 1: You're a breadwinner, that a yeah.
Speaker 2: For some time.
Speaker 3: For some time, I mean, because she had to quit
Speaker 3: her job in order to even like things got real, man.
Speaker 3: I mean, I did three Broadway plays in three years,
Speaker 3: and then I was doing movies with Robin Williams, TV
Speaker 3: shows on Nickelodeon, flying all over the country. It became
Speaker 3: tough for her to really sustain her own business, which
Speaker 3: was really successful in New York at the time. But
Speaker 3: you know, I really respect her for pouring into me
Speaker 3: in that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, she did, man, she raised the real one.
Speaker 3: Not for sure, for sure love Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Honestly, everything I do even to
Speaker 3: this day is just to continue to build a safety
Speaker 3: net for my tribe.
Speaker 2: It's like my tribe first, people second, you know, that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I want to know, have you seen Wicked yet?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Wicked, and I've been beating myself up
Speaker 3: about it. But I've been on the road, so it's
Speaker 3: kind of tough to like carve out time to go
Speaker 3: to the movies. But shout out to Arianna. Man, that's
Speaker 3: my friend's life.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy, but you know what's wild. I always
Speaker 3: knew she was going to be a mega star. She
Speaker 3: was like good at being famous at sixteen.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything quite like it. Like, she was
Speaker 2: just really good at being famous.
Speaker 3: So I knew this guy, like yeah, yeah, yeah, she
Speaker 3: understood it early, just really got the game from how
Speaker 3: to you know, utilize social media to her advantage. She
Speaker 3: was a YouTube star before she even really started dropping
Speaker 3: music officially. And to see her, you know, turn that
Speaker 3: data into into hit records was like the first time
Speaker 3: I saw it happen and I was like, Okay, that's
Speaker 3: the formula.
Speaker 2: You know, that's an actor is there?
Speaker 4: Kind of like, uh, I guess what's the biggest difference
Speaker 4: when it comes to Broadway stage acting and studio acting.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like for Broadway you have to perform
Speaker 3: for the people in the back of the audience. For film,
Speaker 3: it's all in the eyes, it's all in the intention
Speaker 3: and listening, you know, to the other person. It has
Speaker 3: to feel like a real conversation. On Broadway, I feel
Speaker 3: like you kind of have to overact just a little
Speaker 3: bit in order to, you know, for everybody to feel
Speaker 3: it exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, your whole body story exactly exactly on Broadway,
Speaker 1: Downtown Broadway.
Speaker 3: I've done something pantages, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, man, you stay working, man.
Speaker 2: It doesn't stop. It doesn't stop. Man.
Speaker 3: But but I'm really blessed to do what I do.
Speaker 3: I think about all the other jobs I could have
Speaker 3: had about it. I'm really happy that I'm that I'm
Speaker 3: doing something that I'm passionate about. And it's it's really fun,
Speaker 3: you know. I Mean, there's this ups and downs, but
Speaker 3: overall it's really fun.
Speaker 1: Yo far fest with tie dollars sign right, like you
Speaker 1: guys get that done in Italy as well.
Speaker 2: No, no, now far fetched.
Speaker 3: I put together a long time ago, right around the
Speaker 3: time when I was doing like some of the stuff
Speaker 3: a certified lover boy, and it was a track that
Speaker 3: was really fun. Do you guys remember Ryan Leslie? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like a Ryan Leslie moment for me. So
Speaker 3: I'm in the studio.
Speaker 1: Remember YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm super inspired by him. So, like bro, I
Speaker 2: still watch that.
Speaker 1: It was a Ryan was the instrument and with it
Speaker 1: pays for it with his black cars.
Speaker 3: Some of the best YouTube series moments ever seen in
Speaker 3: music production.
Speaker 2: But I've always been inspired by him.
Speaker 3: And far Fetch was a song that was kind of
Speaker 3: built in that same breadth and me just really jamming
Speaker 3: out on different instruments. And I had the song for
Speaker 3: a long time and my boy boy Wonder was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: you should finish that. And I couldn't think of a
Speaker 3: second verse. So I played it for Tie and he
Speaker 3: was like, man, I'm down, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and it turned into magic. I'm like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 3: Had an La legend lock in and really like take
Speaker 3: it two x.
Speaker 1: He also plays many instruments. Oh yeah, he's a writer.
Speaker 2: We just had the l A show, you know.
Speaker 3: We had we had Todd Dallas on pop Out and
Speaker 3: he was playing bass while I was playing guitar. I
Speaker 3: was doing a solo, he was on his knees weld
Speaker 3: and now with the bass.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a real rock star moment.
Speaker 3: And it's cool to be signed to somebody that understands
Speaker 3: the different sides of me. You know, obviously I'm really
Speaker 3: into R and B, but there's so many layers to
Speaker 3: who I am as a musician.
Speaker 1: Is there a song that we would be surprised you
Speaker 1: listened to a Carpenter or Life?
Speaker 2: No? Not well, I mean you shout out to the
Speaker 2: Swifties because Taylor she is amazing. No, but.
Speaker 3: The collabs always but like, actually I'm actually down for
Speaker 3: a collab. But I listened to like Radiohead, like Fake
Speaker 3: Plastic Trees, I listened to led Zeppelin, Black Dog, you know,
Speaker 3: like I listened to just a plethora of different things.
Speaker 3: McKee know, his new albums amazing. I've been rocking that
Speaker 3: a lot. But but I'm just inspired by by the drama.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Black Sabbath was a huge inspiration
Speaker 3: for even my artwork, Like the the kind of blurry
Speaker 3: of it. Yeah yeah, from like the Paranoid album, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that goes down as one of the best
Speaker 6: rock records ever.
Speaker 2: No, for sure, for sure, they said that's the beginning
Speaker 2: of the metal.
Speaker 6: You know, so it sounds like that you enjoy a
Speaker 6: good guitar riff because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like that guitar drums combo.
Speaker 3: It's like emmyburn bassed drum combo, like that, that that
Speaker 3: feeling when when when when everything is kind of you know,
Speaker 3: based off of a lead melody.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I think that's like a really cool part of rock
Speaker 3: and roll to me. And it's something that I even
Speaker 3: used on my own album with a joint like Dancing
Speaker 3: with Demons, I have like a guitar part that's that's
Speaker 3: kind of you know, in Unison with the bass because
Speaker 3: it was super inspired by all the Black Sabbath stuff,
Speaker 3: that's right, that's right, Beatles and Beatles for sure, Beatles
Speaker 3: for sure, rolling Stones, you know, to me, Pink Floyd,
Speaker 3: just the psychedelic like energy and vibes and definitely all
Speaker 3: infused in what I do on R and B and
Speaker 3: and I hope people understand the different sides of me,
Speaker 3: and I always do my best to like not get
Speaker 3: too left, but you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, because you know, it's it's a game.
Speaker 3: But but but I'm definitely excited to show more more
Speaker 3: sides myself on the next prod.
Speaker 1: I just haven't here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you see what's happening in the bass and
Speaker 3: the guitar like in unison in a really special way.
Speaker 2: Yep, together exactly in a way together.
Speaker 1: That's also a white strip club classic.
Speaker 7: It is a white strip club classic, classic New York
Speaker 7: stripper classic. That's right, beautiful woman is about to walk
Speaker 7: out crazy with the blonde.
Speaker 1: Hair flips for sure. String you feel too easy, bro,
Speaker 1: that's where you know. Jackie's a fan of your TV work.
Speaker 2: Yea fautching you.
Speaker 4: So this is kind of like a not kind of
Speaker 4: It is a full circle moment for men, like literally
Speaker 4: from Victorious to like Backyardigans. Like I was just like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, like this is so wild and like
Speaker 4: I personally as a fan, like I am super proud
Speaker 4: to see your like progress and the fact that you're
Speaker 4: finally getting your shine.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: It's been a long journey, you know, but I always
Speaker 3: respect how I started and the fact that they even
Speaker 3: allowed me. I remember I had like this big board
Speaker 3: meeting with the Nickelodeon executives, and I was like, please
Speaker 3: don't irkle me. Dog, Like, if you can't make me cool,
Speaker 3: make me cool, because like I still want to do
Speaker 3: other things after this.
Speaker 2: And that's when I was like thirteen years old. Thirteen.
Speaker 3: I was definitely having that conversation about brand and marketing
Speaker 3: and being able to journey out of what we do
Speaker 3: after after the fact. They definitely respected that in real ways.
Speaker 3: Obviously I had.
Speaker 2: Goofy episodes from time to time, but like.
Speaker 3: You're allowed to perform, allowed to perform. They allowed me
Speaker 3: to write songs on the show too. It is my
Speaker 3: first time really understanding the process of writing a song
Speaker 3: and putting it out.
Speaker 2: I hit the Billboard chart to like sixteen.
Speaker 1: You know, so crazy it was.
Speaker 3: It was a cool experience and you know, really shout
Speaker 3: out to Nickelodeon and Viacom holding me down.
Speaker 4: I was telling Cruise like right before this too, I
Speaker 4: was like, I really liked your character because you were
Speaker 4: like really the only sane one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like it was purpose. Yeah, the fall
Speaker 1: hard for sanity. Yeah for sure, because like you know,
Speaker 1: if you if.
Speaker 3: You let them know, I have you, you know, doing
Speaker 3: some pretty wild stuff on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you gotta be careful, right, yeah?
Speaker 2: Is they're a worry about being typecasted exactly?
Speaker 3: I think, you know, comedy is a beautiful thing, and
Speaker 3: I understand comedic timing because I've done sitcoms my whole life.
Speaker 3: But you know, I knew for a fact that if
Speaker 3: people only saw me as a a curator of jokes,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't necessarily be able to take me serious when
Speaker 3: I wanted to do my music and.
Speaker 2: Get in depth.
Speaker 1: Would make the transition a lot.
Speaker 2: It would have made it kind of tough, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen actors transition into dramas, but it's
Speaker 3: kind of tough to see comedian jump into music like
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yea, I mean Jamie Fox had a run, right yo.
Speaker 3: Jamie Fox is such an anomaly in that clazy man.
Speaker 3: It's it's like sick insane. Yeah, that's a generational talent.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: There's Backyard against bro or such a part of my household.
Speaker 6: I got two teenagers back against Live my g parties.
Speaker 6: The Cheats and Eats a Pizza is my favorite episode.
Speaker 6: That's my favorite episode. But but man, it must feel
Speaker 6: great to be able to have your fans now call
Speaker 6: back to those days and you have an impact on them.
Speaker 2: Man, because children in TV.
Speaker 6: Man, that's like, you know, that just brings back so
Speaker 6: much nostalgia when you grew up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a it's a really cool thing.
Speaker 3: I mean we've been doing like meet and greets before
Speaker 3: you know, my shows, and to see how the journey
Speaker 3: has affected people and how grateful they are that I
Speaker 3: kept going and didn't let the industry beat me down.
Speaker 3: Was it was just a beautiful exchange, you know, And
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay resilient. Man, I'm down to keep going.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Man, have you given yourself time to, uh,
Speaker 1: to kind of break down what's going on between Kendrick.
Speaker 3: And Drake, you know, to be completely honest, I let
Speaker 3: the Titans fight, you know, like right now, I'm still
Speaker 3: learning my Yeah. Yeah, I'm still learning my superpower. So
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm letting them just kind of do
Speaker 3: their thing. But you know, I'm a big fan of both,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's and it's you know, it's kind
Speaker 3: of unfortunate. I really hope that we could all coexist
Speaker 3: a little bit differently, but you know, it has bred
Speaker 3: some amazing records.
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.
Speaker 3: But it's a little unfortunate though, because I would love
Speaker 3: for both of them to be able to just rise
Speaker 3: to the occasion and be great at the same time.
Speaker 1: If possible, that'd be great, that'd be great. But I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily see that happening.
Speaker 3: I don't see it's it's it's a it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a journey. I'll just say that much.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a it's gonna be a journey.
Speaker 3: Next year is gonna be a big year, though, And uh,
Speaker 3: I don't want to count the underdog out.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now we totally got that.
Speaker 5: I overstand you Overdr're right, okay yeah yeah, oh no,
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, white flag baby swizzling over here.
Speaker 2: Peace, I'm here for peace. I'm here for peace, chicken grease.
Speaker 4: We're talking about all the instruments that you've play. Is
Speaker 4: there an instrument that you still want to learn?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a big fan of strings and my
Speaker 3: mom plays the viola, but I want to learn how
Speaker 3: to play the violin would be really nice. I mean,
Speaker 3: I use strings on a lot of my records, and
Speaker 3: if I could really like figure that out. It would
Speaker 3: be one less check I'm spending, you know. Yeah, just
Speaker 3: like you know, you don't even have to be that amazing.
Speaker 1: You just gotta gotta have a good tone, you know,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And get for the movie Detroit had
Speaker 1: to like chop off your hair, right Yeah, to cut
Speaker 1: my hair again?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, to be completely honest, man,
Speaker 3: my life hasn't been like a super crazy trajectory financially.
Speaker 3: Like there was times where I needed the money for Detroit,
Speaker 3: and it was like, you know, well, if I want
Speaker 3: to continue my journey and if I want to continue
Speaker 3: to act, I know I can get more roles if
Speaker 3: I cut my hair off right now and it grows
Speaker 3: back as you can see.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it's you know, a corero
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, man, I just knew for a fact
Speaker 3: I had to I had to fight, and this was
Speaker 3: an opportunity to keep going.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, man, listen, man, you're doing it. Dog congratulates.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. We love to watch the growth and
Speaker 1: the success. Man, you know, we love to see the winning. Man.
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a real journey and I'm so
Speaker 3: thankful and it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 3: The attitude is gratitude, yeah, because Thanksgiving just popped up,
Speaker 3: and even prior to Thanksgiving, I mean, I just had
Speaker 3: to switch my perspective.
Speaker 2: There's there's certain times where.
Speaker 3: You think, like, man, I should be doing in this
Speaker 3: so you see other people playing bigger rooms or doing uh,
Speaker 3: you know, more TV slots or getting that festival you want.
Speaker 3: But I think just like getting to the basics of
Speaker 3: gratitude in the present moment is gonna help me, you know,
Speaker 3: better things in the future.
Speaker 1: The attitude you gotta stay there's no traffic in there.
Speaker 1: There's no traffic exactly. Yeah, yeah, you know, so here
Speaker 1: you gotta stay there. What's up?
Speaker 6: A quick question? You travel a lot obviously with tour.
Speaker 6: You know, when you want to kind of get music
Speaker 6: out of your brain for a little bit. You ever
Speaker 6: flip over and be a fan of TV?
Speaker 2: Do you watch?
Speaker 6: You have some favorite shows or movies that you hit
Speaker 6: while you're on the road.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know. When I'm on the road, I'm really
Speaker 3: on my Tarantino kick. I was I was watching like
Speaker 3: pulp fiction, reservoir Dogs, you know, like you could watch
Speaker 3: one hundred, one hundred times and it's always gonna work.
Speaker 3: And you know, this is my first time doing like
Speaker 3: a tour bus, uh tour. So I had like a
Speaker 3: nice TV, nice sound system. I was back there vibing,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just looked up the people ate literally yesterday too.
Speaker 3: That's a good film. That's a film, underrated, under radio
Speaker 3: rated for sure. I thought it was really dope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one too.
Speaker 6: Man they come to Yeah, that's just such an amazing scene.
Speaker 6: The way they work music and he's very good about
Speaker 6: his musical.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. It is a big piece to scoring a
Speaker 2: lot of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I actually found this dope Mexican spot called l
Speaker 3: Coyote from Yeah, I've.
Speaker 2: Been going there ever since.
Speaker 3: Man, a lot of places, Julie the word that's over
Speaker 3: there too.
Speaker 2: I love a good film location, man for sure. Like
Speaker 2: they actually put me on.
Speaker 1: Man for sure. What are your tour bus rules?
Speaker 2: My tour bus rules.
Speaker 3: I don't really have to make on the bus, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: well there's definitely you can't do that.
Speaker 2: That goes what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'll say, if you're gonna roll a spliff, make sure
Speaker 3: it's leveled out, like I don't want the whole bus
Speaker 3: smelling like tobacco.
Speaker 2: That's a you know. Yeah. Yeah. Other than that, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty exactly I'm kind of chilling, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, listen, dog, congratulations, Bro, thank you. Let's
Speaker 1: get it. Bro, come see us any time. It's too
Speaker 1: easy for sure.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you all for having me.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time and energy and your music as well.
Speaker 1: And if you bring to it, man.
Speaker 3: Nah na, and I'm definitely gonna keep going. It's just
Speaker 3: the beginning of something really dope.
Speaker 1: Your breast stress are man, appreciate appreciate that, man, Tom's
Speaker 1: Cruise Show Real ninety two three. Let's get it