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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the deep dive. We take stacks of research, articles,

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<v Speaker 1>notes and boil it all down for you. Today, we're

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<v Speaker 1>really digging into something that's well everywhere, generative AI. How

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<v Speaker 1>it's changing content creation, sure, but also sparking these huge

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<v Speaker 1>questions about the future of work, especially for jobs where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, AI is getting surprisingly good at the core tasks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And our focus today is this fascinating guide

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<v Speaker 2>Coding with AI by Chris Minnick. We really want to

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<v Speaker 2>unpack how AI isn't just like another tool for programmers.

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<v Speaker 2>It could actually make you a way better, faster, more

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<v Speaker 2>efficient coder.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So the big question we're tackling in this deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive is, well, how does this stuff actually work? And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe more importantly, how can you use it? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>harness its power to write better code, understand things like

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<v Speaker 1>machine learning deep learning, even handle the ethical side of

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<v Speaker 1>working with AI, because honestly, whether you're just starting out

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<v Speaker 1>or you've been coding for years, when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>generative AI for coding, the source puts it perfectly, We're

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<v Speaker 1>all dummies at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>It really feels that way sometimes. So in this deep

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<v Speaker 2>dive we'll lay out the basics machine learning, generative AI.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll look at actually working with tools like Copilot replet

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<v Speaker 2>and see how AI helps with automating the boring stuff

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<v Speaker 2>but also improving and maintaining your code down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's start unpacking that. Because we hear all these terms, right, AI,

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<v Speaker 1>machine learning, deep learning, generative AI. They get thrown around

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<v Speaker 1>almost interchangeably sometimes, but the source makes it clear they're

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<v Speaker 1>related but distinct. How do you usually break that down?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good place to start. Think of AI

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence as the big dream the whole field making

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<v Speaker 2>computers smart, basically solving problems that usually need human intelligence. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>machine learning mL, that's kind of our first big success

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<v Speaker 2>story with NAI. It's where we don't hardcode every single rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead we let the computers learn from massive amounts of data.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so mL is teaching them to learn from data.

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<v Speaker 1>What about deep learning DL? That one seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Deep learning is a specific, really powerful type of

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<v Speaker 2>machine learning. This is where you get those artificial neural networks.

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<v Speaker 2>They're structured with many layers, hence the deep It's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of inspired by how our brains are wired with neurons

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<v Speaker 2>and connections and these deep networks are incredibly good finding

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<v Speaker 2>complex patterns and huge data sets like really.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge DATCHA and Generative AI GENAI, the one making all

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines that fits under.

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<v Speaker 2>Deep learning exactly. GENAI systems are powered by these deep

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<v Speaker 2>learning models, and their big trick is creating new stuff text, images, code,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it, based on all that data they learned from.

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<v Speaker 2>The quality has just exploded recently, mostly thanks to those

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<v Speaker 2>deep learning breakthroughs.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does that magic actually happen with language or code?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how does the machine go from data to

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<v Speaker 1>like writing a function?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it comes down to those neural networks. Again, our

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<v Speaker 2>source explains they're trained on just enormous data sets. Think

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<v Speaker 2>about recognizing a hot dog. You feed it millions of

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<v Speaker 2>pictures labeled hot dog or not hot dog. It learns

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<v Speaker 2>the patterns right, bun cylinder, shape, et cetera. For language,

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<v Speaker 2>it's way more complex. They don't understand words like we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Your input, like text or code, gets broken down into numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>We call them tokens. Think of them like pixels for text.

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<v Speaker 2>These tokens go through the network layers and the model

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<v Speaker 2>predicts the next most likely token and the next building

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<v Speaker 2>up a response.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, tokens make sense numbers instead of words, But how

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<v Speaker 1>does it get context? How does it know bank means

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<v Speaker 1>a riverbank here, but a financial bank there. Older model

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<v Speaker 1>struggled with that, just going word by word exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a huge limitation. The real revolution, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that made Jennai take off for language was the transformer model.

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<v Speaker 2>Transformers introduce this thing called a self attention mechanism. Instead

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<v Speaker 2>of just processing things in order one after another, they

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<v Speaker 2>can look at the entire input sequence, a whole sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole block of code, all at once and figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how different parts relate to each other, which words

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<v Speaker 2>or tokens are most important to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, so it's not just sequential anymore. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it grasps the whole context instantly. Yeah, that's a huge lead,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can immediately see how that helps with the

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<v Speaker 1>really repetitive, annoying coding tasks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. Absolutely, take boilerplate code, you know, the stuff you

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<v Speaker 2>have to write but nobody really enjoys. Like setting up

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<v Speaker 2>a basic HTML page structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, necessary, but it's such a drag. You just want

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the interesting part. So how does AI

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<v Speaker 1>help there? What's the example.

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<v Speaker 2>The source gives a great one. Chris Minnick just asks

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<v Speaker 2>chat sheeppt for an HTML template. He specified like a

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<v Speaker 2>three column flexbox layout top, navbar, footter, a pretty standard

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<v Speaker 2>but non trivial setup.

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<v Speaker 1>And did it like actually generate usable flexbox CSS? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've spent hours tweaking flexbox before it did.

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<v Speaker 2>It gave him a full, ready to go HTML file

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<v Speaker 2>CSS included that did exactly what he asked. It looked

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much like what a human would write, but done

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<v Speaker 2>in seconds. Compare that to finding snippets are starting from scratch.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge time saver.

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<v Speaker 1>That really is impressive for just a natural language. Quest

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<v Speaker 1>makes you think about other common stuff. Yeah, like CRU operations, create, read, update, delete.

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<v Speaker 1>Every app with data needs that right.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much, and it's often tedious. The source shows an

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<v Speaker 2>example of generating no JS code for CRU with Mango

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<v Speaker 2>dB using Mongoose. The interesting part is the process. The

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<v Speaker 2>first attempt, with a vague prompt to bing or chat GPT,

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<v Speaker 2>gave back code that was okay ish, but it had

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<v Speaker 2>this funny fly. It tried to use a simple DAVASCRIPT

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<v Speaker 2>array as if it were a real database.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. Classic AI oversimplification. When it doesn't have enough context,

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<v Speaker 1>so refining the prompt was key.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, This really drives home the importance of prompt engineering.

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<v Speaker 2>When the prompt was updated to clearly say no JS, Mango, dB, Mongoose,

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<v Speaker 2>the result was way better, impressively human like code actually

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<v Speaker 2>latest dramascript, syntax, error handling, even comments. Then, of course

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<v Speaker 2>you still have to do the actual setup and PM

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<v Speaker 2>and it install Mondose, run the script, check the database,

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<v Speaker 2>but the code generation part was solid.

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<v Speaker 1>It shows that iteration, that back and forth is crucial.

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<v Speaker 1>You guide the AI exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a partnership.

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<v Speaker 1>So AI handled the gruntwork freeze up brain space. That's massive.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about when you're in the code wrestling with syntax,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember some specific API method. AI is an

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent partner, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Just remembering syntax or looking it up is a

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<v Speaker 2>huge chunk of programming time. We've had code completion for

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<v Speaker 2>ages like Microsofts and Tellisons back in ninety six, useful, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Limited, right, suggesting the next word or function name. Jenny

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<v Speaker 1>I takes this way further.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume, oh totally. Tools like getthub, Copilot, Amazon code Whisper.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't just suggest the next word. They can suggest

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<v Speaker 2>whole lines, entire functions, even blocks of code. They learn

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<v Speaker 2>from massive code data sets, but also look at your

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<v Speaker 2>current project, imported libraries, other open files for context. The

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<v Speaker 2>source mentions copilot helping with the arguments for array dot reduce.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a common one that trips people up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, reduce always takes me a second look. But

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<v Speaker 1>what about learning news syntax? Can these tools actually teach

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<v Speaker 1>you or just remind you?

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<v Speaker 2>They can definitely help you learn. The chat interfaces are

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<v Speaker 2>great for asking how do I do X in language? Why?

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<v Speaker 2>But and this is a big butt from the source,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to watch out for the training data cutoff

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<v Speaker 2>dates Like GPT three doesn't know about JavaScript features added

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<v Speaker 2>after September twenty twenty one. GBT four is much more current,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's still a moving target.

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<v Speaker 1>Always verify good point, so it's generating helping with syntax.

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<v Speaker 1>Can it also check your code? Like linting? That seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a natural fit.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, so linting for anyone maybe not familiar, is

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<v Speaker 2>like a superpowered spell checker and grammar checker for your code.

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<v Speaker 2>Static analysis it finds potential errors, style issues, bugs without

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<v Speaker 2>even running the code.

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<v Speaker 1>And generative AI tools like Bard or whatever can basically

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<v Speaker 1>act like a linter now pointing out typos or awkward

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<v Speaker 1>style exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you have tools like eslin AI that integrate with

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<v Speaker 2>existing linters. They don't just flag the issue, they can

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<v Speaker 2>give you a natural language explanation of why it's considered

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<v Speaker 2>bad practice.

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<v Speaker 1>This all leads to a big question about to code,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it? Is AI a crutch or is it like

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<v Speaker 1>having a tutor. There's that whole debate in education.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the source leans towards AI becoming a normal and

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<v Speaker 2>essential tool for learning, much like Google or textbooks are now,

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<v Speaker 2>but it stresses, really stresses that there's no substitute for

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<v Speaker 2>gaining experience through writing code or from interacting with more

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<v Speaker 2>experienced programmers. AI can assist, it can explain, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't replace actually doing it and learning from humans.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, which brings us to AI pair programming.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds futuristic, but it's happening. The model is you're the

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<v Speaker 1>navigator doing the high level thinking, setting direction with comments

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<v Speaker 1>and code, and the AI is the driver or assistant,

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting code snippets as you go. What are the pros

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<v Speaker 1>and cons there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the pros are pretty clear less time hunting for syntax,

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<v Speaker 2>less typing, boilerplate. Your AI partner is always there, super

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<v Speaker 2>fast and knows tons of different ways to code things

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<v Speaker 2>from its training. No waiting for a human partner.

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<v Speaker 1>But the cons I mean a human pair programmer does

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<v Speaker 1>more than just type, right. They challenge ideas, spot bigger

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<v Speaker 1>architectural issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, you lose that deeper knowledge sharing and critical feedback

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<v Speaker 2>loop you get with a human. Plus the AI suggestions

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<v Speaker 2>might be subtly wrong, outdated, or even introduce security vulnerability

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<v Speaker 2>is a human would catch. And here's the key takeaway

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<v Speaker 2>from the source on this AI pair programming works best

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<v Speaker 2>for coders who know their language and have experienced writing

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<v Speaker 2>code without the use of AI. The AI, as the

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<v Speaker 2>source puts, it, speaks confidently but doesn't know anything about programming.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pattern matching, not true understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's a tool for someone who understands, not a replacement.

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<v Speaker 1>The source walks through building a trivia game with Copilot

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<v Speaker 1>to show this, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good practical example. Start with index dot html,

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<v Speaker 2>write a detailed comment explaining the game. Copilot generates some

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<v Speaker 2>starter HTML. Then you refine it. Tell it you want

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<v Speaker 2>JavaScript data from a specific file datatrivia dot js, tell

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<v Speaker 2>it to use radio buttons. Rance Copilot generates the trivia

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<v Speaker 2>Questions dot js data structure. Then, because it sees both

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<v Speaker 2>index dot html and Trivia Questions dot js are open,

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<v Speaker 2>it uses that context to help write the functions in

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<v Speaker 1>So it's that iterative cycle again. You write some code,

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<v Speaker 1>write a comment, accept or modify a suggestion, test it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and after maybe twenty minutes or so on the

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<v Speaker 2>second try, you end up with a somewhat functional trivia game.

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<v Speaker 2>Not perfect, but a solid start built collaboratively.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. And for people who prefer coding right

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<v Speaker 1>Style completion, and the source shows using it to spin

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<v Speaker 2>Right. It just shows how quickly you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>So we've seen AI generate code, help and syntax act

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<v Speaker 1>as a pair programmer. But what about improving the code

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk refactoring first. That's improving the code's internal structure

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<v Speaker 1>And the source uses that great term code smells like

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<v Speaker 2>Ignore it exactly. It's a perfect analogy. And these smells

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<v Speaker 1>So can AI like copilot chat actually detect these smells?

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<v Speaker 2>copilot Chat did identify several smells a function that was

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<v Speaker 2>too long magic numbers just unexplained numbers in the code,

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<v Speaker 2>It did make suggestions, for instance, moving event handlers out

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<v Speaker 2>the source also cautions that trying to get Copilot to

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<v Speaker 2>player itself, the suggestions weren't always great, right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the constant refrain and it's crucial. Now, let's shift testing.

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<v Speaker 2>The source gives that fun anecdote about Admiral Grace Hopper

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Yeah, I got to make sure the code does

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<v Speaker 2>Both actually for planning. AI can analyze requirements documents to

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty advanced and for writing the actual tests like

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<v Speaker 1>unit tests. The source mentions using jest with copilot chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, once you have just set up, you can literally

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a catch, right, I've heard AI can sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a massive pitfall, the source highlights. Just because

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<v Speaker 2>that confirmed the buggy behavior. You have to be really

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be there. Human oversight is non negotiable.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it tricky? What about TDD test driven development? Writing

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<v Speaker 2>It can help you write the failing test. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes in the TIC TAC TOE TDD process, copilot got

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<v Speaker 2>weirdly stubborn and refused to answer programming questions, forcing them

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes interesting, So it's not quite seamless there yet. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond writing and testing, documentation and maintenance huge parts of

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Documentation breaks down into internal for other devs like

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<v Speaker 1>Right and for comments. There are tools like mintlified doc

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<v Speaker 1>How good are they?

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<v Speaker 2>They can be useful for generating standard stuff like jas

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<v Speaker 2>dot comments explaining parameters and return types, but the source

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<v Speaker 2>compares AI comments to human written ones for some underscore

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<v Speaker 2>dot JS functions. The verdict AI can be detailed, but

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<v Speaker 1>It explains the what, but maybe not the why. What

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<v Speaker 1>about visual docs diagrams?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty handy for quick diagrams.

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<v Speaker 1>And API documentation that's often the pain point. Using OpenAPI Specification.

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<v Speaker 2>usually in eamal format, describing your API endpoints. Then tools

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<v Speaker 2>like read me can ingest that file and automatically create interactive,

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<v Speaker 1>That's slick and the source mentions. Create your own chatbot

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll answer based on your specific API docs. Still

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<v Speaker 1>Potential, very cool, indeed okay. Final, big area software maintenance

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<v Speaker 2>Right and the source breaks maintenance into four types. Corrective

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<v Speaker 1>So how does AI help across those four types?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow automatically opening pole requests. That's proactive as all ties

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<v Speaker 2>Technical debt right exactly. Code quality isn't just does it

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<v Speaker 2>work functional quality, but also is it well built? Easy

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<v Speaker 2>to change? Structural quality. Technical debt is that idea that

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<v Speaker 1>And tools like code Climate automate checking for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>giving your code a grade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, you connected to your repo. It analyzes the code

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<v Speaker 2>for maintainability issues, complexity, duplicate. It gives you a grade

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<v Speaker 2>AF and estimates how long it would take to fix

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<v Speaker 1>The source mentions actually beating code Climate's estimate for fixing

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<v Speaker 2>Right, which shows human intuition and focus can still sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>one thing often uncovered other bugs. It's a continuous cycle,

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<v Speaker 2>achieving that a gray doesn't mean you're done forever. Maintenance

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's a lot we've covered. Bringing it all together,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the really crucial takeaways for you listening right now? First,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe obviously, don't stop coding yourself. You need to lead

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<v Speaker 1>use AI as a tool, but rely on your own

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<v Speaker 1>skills first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and when the AI gives you something weird or unexpected,

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<v Speaker 2>ask follow up questions, probe it, don't just accept confusing output,

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<v Speaker 2>and always double check against official documentation. AI models can

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<v Speaker 2>be out of date or just make things up. They

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<v Speaker 2>call it hallucination.

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<v Speaker 1>Verify facts, good point and be specific with your prompts.

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<v Speaker 1>Give clear context, providing examples if you can. The better

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<v Speaker 1>your input, the better the AI's output. Garbage in garbage

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<v Speaker 1>out still applies, and security. Be careful anonymized sensitive data

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<v Speaker 1>before pasting it into a prompt. Don't feed the AI

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<v Speaker 2>PII critically important. Also, keep your tools updated. This whole

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<v Speaker 1>Right. And finally, that classic advice from Donald Knuth maybe

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<v Speaker 1>more relevant than ever with AI tempting us to tweak endlessly.

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<v Speaker 1>Avoid premature optimization. Spending hours to shave off a few microseconds,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially introducing bugs usually not worth it. Get it working

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<v Speaker 1>correctly and clearly first, then optimize if needed.

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<v Speaker 2>So true, we've really peeled back the layers here, haven't we?

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<v Speaker 2>From AI automating the boring bits to being a code partner,

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<v Speaker 2>to helping refactor, test, and maintain software. We've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>critical thinking, and just continuous learning. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Minnick, the author of our main source notes. He

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<v Speaker 2>So think about everything we discussed today. Here's something to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe learn new things more quickly. What totally new, more ambitious,

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<v Speaker 2>more creative problems could you start tackling now, Problems that

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<v Speaker 1>Book?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what does this unlock? Not just for coders, but

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<v Speaker 2>tricky problem? What's the next horizon?

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<v Speaker 1>This opens up lots to think about. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us on this deep dive. Keep learning, keep experimenting,

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<v Speaker 1>keep asking questions. It's an exciting time.
