Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
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Chrysler Dots Gee Ram, It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on.
Thanks for telling a friend. I'm excited. I'm excited to
see Danny. I haven't seen Danny and there's some sun.
Speaker 3: Excited to see you people too, Can I see you people?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, because our friend Laura is here as well.
I'm excited about Laura being here because there's a story
and I think I have to have Laura read portions
of it like it's phenomenal, it's the great, Like I
saw this today and I got excited. I like, like
I was in an a mood and I read this
like what is wrong with me? That's somebody else's downfall,
And I go, You're.
Speaker 4: Also excited about my unplanned text saying I could come
in tonight?
Speaker 3: Right? Uh? Yes, I was, I didn't. Is it at
an agency town? Unplanned text?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Like your show up on podcasts?
Speaker 2: No? No, I was more excited about a text between
you and a family member that Kevin. I don't know
if I was Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that I'll
leave it there. But that was it.
Speaker 4: I was like, sorry, dad, Oh.
Speaker 2: That's too bad. That's very funny.
Speaker 4: My brother called about the same thing.
Speaker 3: I was like, not really, Yeah, were they aware?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Wait, oh did we meet your brother? No, we met
your brother in law.
Speaker 4: You met my brother in law.
Speaker 2: Wait, I didn't know you even had a brother.
Speaker 4: My dad and his second wife.
Speaker 3: Oh, kad, So this is kind of a baby.
Speaker 4: They're my half. They my brother and sister. They're half
They're eight and ten years younger than me. But I
love them. There, I'm close with them. I'm closer with
them than I am my dad. My dad's on number three.
Speaker 2: So oh Dad's on wife number three. Yeah, all right,
good for dad. That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to Variety is the spice of life. There.
There is, dude, there's life insurance policy and commercials. That's serious.
Fred's on wife number two. Yeah, it has to get
another life inshirts policy. I'm not choking, folks, Yeah, yeah,
there is.
Speaker 2: It's like for just a dollar of Fred wife number two.
Don't be like Fred, isn't there like a gold digger
references ye too, Yeah, there is, there's like a gold
Digger reference in there. Yeah, but dan uh heavy week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a heavy week. Yeah, we could talk
about it. Yeah, my wife's father, my father in law,
had passed away Friday night.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the way it, the way we got the information,
led to a string of several days of just interesting,
an interesting story after story about things. But here's what happened.
Long in the short of it. He had a stroke
about fifteen years ago. So he wasn't his normal self
for a long time, right, I mean he was with
it and everything, but he just couldn't He just couldn't
do the things he wanted to do with Like he
was an outdoorsman, he could make computers, he could build stuff.
He couldn't do any of those things anymore, and hadn't
done him for fifteen years. Needed the help of a
walker the last couple of years, and like it was
hard to have a conversation with him. I mean, the
stroke really took a lot out of them. And so
I would do what I could to like try to
make him laugh or like, you know, I would sneak
him Eminem's. Like my wife has musicals every year spectually
has one this weekend. So I'd sit next to him
and I'd sneak him like peanut Eminem's right here, you
go all, you know, because his wife would be like,
are you eating M and m's, you know, yeah, and
stuff like that. Once I got a heart of or not.
Speaker 2: Are you sure it wasn't because the man's now dead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just well, well, did he have like a
chewing issue or.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, none of that. You're right.
Speaker 2: A lot of times swallowing. My mother was a speech
pathologist and she used to have to go do swallow
therapy with people, which sounds nuts, right, because you go,
isn't that sort of an involuntary thing?
Speaker 3: Not exactly nuts?
Speaker 4: Yeah, when my ex's grandfather passed away, he had had
a stroke and couldn't chew, and he refused to take
the swallow test because he's like, I would rather die
than be fed puriod food.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I didn't like he was, I.
Speaker 3: Mean like he liked he really enjoyed pro wrestling, so
I'd set up wrestling on peacock for him. He enjoyed
watching that. You know. The most conversations I've ever had
with it was once about more decks. I got into
a conversation about more decks. He went on for like
twenty minutes about different sizes of more decks and how
you like how you can mow your lawn like like
Oak Hill. Yeah, I mean like he really got into it.
So it was cool, and I was trying to tap
into like ways to like get him to, you know,
come out of himself a little bit. He drove a
tank down the autubon at one point he drove a tank. Yes,
he actually had to back up and turn around somebody's yard,
like to a k turn. Yeah, oops, then go the
other direction. He was just he really was a man.
A few words, but he he lived a life and
then all of a sudden, you know, he has the
stroke and then for the last fifteen years he just
wasn't the same, and all of a sudden. So my
wife had a horrific day on Friday, sure, like at
work and everything. So I go, okay, well, clearly you're
not cooking tonight. You want to go out?
Speaker 2: Sure, let's wait wait wait, wait, wait wait now, now
why wouldn't you go You know what, honey, let me
handle the cookie?
Speaker 3: I did. I go, hey, let's go out. I love it. Yeah,
so I'm not allowed to use this stuff. So and
once melted a spatula in the middle of some egs.
So I just joking. But anyway, uh so we go.
So I go, okay, I'll meet you at the spot
in Rochester. And I'm like thirty seconds away from pulling
the parking lot. I get a phone call. No, no,
we're not going here. I sat down at a table,
my wife. Now, I sat down at a table and
there's no reserve sign. The NFL drafts going on, second round,
third round, and they they told me, no, you can't
sit there, that's reserved. And I was like, well that's
not nice, that's kind of rude. So no, we're not
going to eat here. I'm like, uh, okay.
Speaker 2: Ever pull a move like that, Laura, a little power movement.
Speaker 4: No, if if there's not a reserve sign, why would
I mean, did the power to seat herself? Was it something?
Speaker 3: There's no hostess there. There's never a hostess. Just walking
and seat yourself. That's the whole point, right, you know.
Speaker 4: So you don't tell the customer there, right, And it's
a place where it's it's.
Speaker 2: It's mom, mom, so you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: So it could have been because my wife was in
a certain state at that moment. So she took it. So, okay,
all right, wait she's still that's what I said. Yeah,
so I didn't get the waitress's side of the story.
I just took my wife's side of it because I
didn't even stop. I go, Okay, where do you want
to go? You decided? I'm like, all right, I got
to make another decision. Hey, let's go down park ev No,
there's no parking. Okay, let's go to this place here,
we go, go to the next place. We go to the
next place, no parking there. Where do you want to go? Now?
You decide? So I find a place. I find a place.
I find a place to go. We're on the east
side because she teaches on the east side. Find the place.
Half hour wait, yeah, okay, no problem. Meanwhile, like you
can call in ahead in this place. I didn't know this.
So couples are coming in and they're getting seated before.
So now she's like not getting but wondering why this
has happened. So I kind of casually wander over to
the to the table where they're waiting. You know, the
may or d and they're not even acknowledging me. They're
like they've been training, like head down, just keep your
eyes on the screen. And I look over. Okay, I
see my name. We're up next, all right. We finally
get seated. That's another ten minutes for the waitress, then
another ten minutes with the drink order, then another ten
minutes with the actual order. Then I get a phone
call from my mother in law and my wife can
see the phone and it's her mom's name on the
phone and she's not calling my wife. Yeah, okay, that's weird.
So I go, hey, your mom is calling me? Yeah,
why is that going? And I had a gut feeling
something was up. Yeah, So I said, hey, Dona, how
are you? And she goes, is Beth home from musical practice?
I go, no, she's right here. We're out not to eat.
Oh okay, Well, please tell her to call me when
you get home. I go, well, is everything okay? Because
now I'm shouting because we're in a restaurant. It's loud,
the draft is going on, the Yanks are on okay,
and it's really busy. She goes, I lost my husband tonight,
but please don't tell Beth. Just wait till you get
home and then tell her to call me. I don't
want her on the road.
Speaker 2: I get this sentiment of the mom, But that's a
lot of a lot of pressure on you. But she
knows when she knows you're out at a dinner together,
what are you supposed to do? Wait until you get home.
You know your mom has a surprise for you.
Speaker 3: I mean, so I'm sitting there and I'm not looking
at my wife, and she's looking at me like what what?
What is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm holding my phone tighter and tighter into
my face because I don't want her to here. But
that even tells you right there, Yeah, I know, So
that's going through my head, right yeah. So her mom's
telling me one thing. My wife's over here, and I'm
looking straight ahead, and I know full well that I
need to tell my wife what's going on. I can't,
but I have to no sell it on the phone
to not tick off my mother in law, who wasn't
we be TikTok like because eventually it all worked out.
But I go, okay, all right, So I couldn't say, oh,
I'm sorry to hear that. Oh my gosh, that's devastating
I couldn't say any of that. I'd be okay, I'll
take care of it. Okay, all right, love you too,
Bye bye. Take a deep breath, cover my mouth, say
a little prayer, Grab my wife's hand, look at her,
and go honey. And I never call her honey. She's boop, honey.
I don't want to have to tell you this, but
I have to tell you this now. Your father died.
And she was like stunned. I'm like, what do you
want to do? I know she wanted to go home,
but I wanted her to make the decision to go home.
I wasn't gonna say, hey, you want to sit around
have a few drinks, and because what if what if
she said, yes, I want to process this. I want
to have a cocktail that whatever you want to do,
all right, we need to go home. I'm like, okay, listen,
do not call your mom on the way home, because
she asked me not to tell you because she doesn't
want you to get into an accident on the way. God. So,
but I knew she was gonna call. I'm just I'm
just messaging my wife. I'm just giving the message in
the middle of that. So she gets in the car,
I go, okay, I'm gonna fall, you know, just go.
I know my way home, like all right, So I'm
looking at my room fom mirror and making sure I
see the same set of headlights the whole way, because
who knows well. She eventually talks to her mother on
the phone, and her mother tells her everything. We get
home and it's an hour starving, neither of us have
been and then we don't even plan to eat because
she's she's devastated, and so she talks to her mom
and then they start talking about what do we do next? Right,
because they told her brother, and her mother was very
calm about this, almost like relieved in the scenes because
fifteen years of being a nurse for your husband, all
of a sudden, it was like, I think she kind
of expected it to happen, but it drops out of nowhere,
you can.
Speaker 2: My cousin was a neurosurgeon, retired down but more of
my dad's cousin, and actually he it was hit. My
dad's cousin married this man. He was a West Point graduate,
did his medical school through the Army h so they
paid for it. So he did twenty years in the army.
After that he invented a way if you get in
in time for a stroke. That it's and I think
it's called the Mendoza method. His name is Ed Mendoza.
I think that is what it's called. He had a stroke.
They used the Mendoza method on him and he was okay.
But there's a lot of times. I don't know how
bad the stroke was for your father in law, but
that they can you can come back. There's a lot
of physical therapy, there's a lot of all this stuff.
He had still hard, had.
Speaker 3: Many strokes before the big one, so it was a
lot of damage. So he so he passes the medical exam.
Wenter had to come you know, like they have to
like they have to go through all these like legalities
because they have to like do an exam. They have
to like do try to dow CPR, make sure that
before okay, before they declare you're dead.
Speaker 4: Was it like a natural Yeah, yeah, he just.
Speaker 3: He had been sick. He had been sick and he
wasn't doing really well. And I had a feeling that
week like like he like russell Mania was and even
tho russell Mania supposedly sucked. According to all the Rustle fans,
he wasn't into like watching it at all, so there
was kind of like signs it was Easter Sunday, he
didn't want to eat I mean, so right, right, and
so he had been sick. So then we get home,
we talked to her mom about okay, so what's next. Well,
I'm supposed to meet with the funeral director. I'm going
to meet Sunday at nine p thirty. I'm like, okay,
that's well, that's that's church time. But that that's that's okay.
I go. She goes, he wants to be I'll go
with you. I don't care. I go. She goes, he
wants to be cremated. I go, okay. So she goes,
so I'm sorry you didn't get to say goodbye, and
I jump in. I go, wait a second, wait a second,
I go, they will let you do a private viewing
of the body, so you could say goodbye before he doesn't.
He doesn't immediately have to get cremated like tonight. Okay,
there's gonna be a process here, you can do that.
So I explained this to her. She goes, oh, maybe
we'll do that. I go, you might want to because
I think Beth wants to say goodbye, and I think
you could say goodbye too. So fast forward to Sunday morning.
There's a private view and you know, my wife asked
me and my mother will asked me if I could
go with them, because I've been through this several times,
you know, with the funeral director. And it's pretty straightforward,
and they're great people, like they're they're very kind and compassionate,
and it's pretty much color by number. If you want cremation,
here's what it costs, if you want a funeral, here's
what Okay, done right, And but we're sitting there and
I have o c D and the OCD could kick
in at the worst possible moments. So they're in tears
and we're seeing him, you know, laid out, and you
know we're My wife's crying.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling. I know what's coming. You do, Yeah,
all right?
Speaker 2: Can she guess?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 4: Did you like his suit was not straightened and you
reached in and where you no?
Speaker 3: No, no, no no. So he was covered with a
blanket becausemate, without a viewing, without like a public viewing,
they just put a blanket over you. Put some makeup
on your face before they send you to the crematorium.
So you know, it was emotional for my way for
the first No, for the first ten minutes, No, for
the first ten minutes. Really they were like getting emotional.
They called the brother up, they did a FaceTime so
he could say goodbye, and then all of a sudden,
a Bill Moran Dan Burrello bit comes into my head
of our makeup artists on God is out sick. We
want to know if we can call up Golden Tans
to see if we can bring the body up. We
used to call to brown up the meat a little.
Speaker 2: We used to call tanning salons and say we were
calling from a funeral home and we had a viewing,
and our makeup artists called.
Speaker 3: It was always Yvon our makeup artist, Yavon as I.
Speaker 2: Said, Danny, do these bits and see could we bring it?
And sometimes especially got this so out there, like well, yeah,
if you come in through the back, yeah, we we.
Speaker 3: Have an awning, but you gotta be quick though. Okay,
well do you have a wheelchair and we can stand
them up in the I mean like and some of
were like we're smart, like wait a minute, oxygen, you
need oxygen for a tan to work. Okay, So I
don't know. We go its great tendy. They started actually
playing along because it's customer service and we The bit
was how long can Danny keep the Tanning Saloon on
the phone with a dead body from a funeral home
to get quote round up? And I got the I
got some people going on seven eight minutes at one point,
this is what pops into your head.
Speaker 4: This is way better than you peeking under the This.
Speaker 3: Is like ten minutes. It's like ten minutes in because
everbody's getting emotional and stuff and you know, and like
then for a second, I'm like it kind of cheered
me up a bit, but then it's like it's all
I can think about now, and I'm like trying not
to like smirk or anything while my well, my wife
and my mother in law are trying to mourn, even
though I'm sad because I missed the guy too. He
was my father in law and all of a sudden,
but like, Mike, why is this popping into my head now? Right?
But that's what OCD does. It's like Danny God to
make you laugh for the most possible moment.
Speaker 2: Did you no?
Speaker 3: I didn't. I kept it the game. I took a
deep breath. I kind of walked away for a bit,
I go, I get some marror, come back, and then
you know, they said goodbye, and then they go, take
as much time as you need, all right, So we
did that, hung up on her brother. Then we go
to meet with the funeral director about arrangements, and he
wanted to be cremated. So we start talking about, you know,
the service, all that goes into it, what you have.
By the way, there's a lot of legalities involved, like
they have to tell you by law in New York State. Now,
once we cremate him, you know, this process is irreversible, correct,
And they go, you have to initial here to say
that you understand that not only we told you, but
you understand that. Right. That's what she said. That's what
the lady says.
Speaker 2: She goes the greatest, I would love to meet the
person that I would have to be a thing of.
Speaker 3: I would love to write that. So then they go
to me, we can't get him back, right, And then
the second OCD moment happens when a scene from a movie,
Oh you sent me the scene for the movie goes
into my head. One of my fas favorite scenes ever,
one of my favorite movies Ever, the scene from The
Big Lebowski where Donnie played by Steve Buscemi dies and
the dude played by Jeff Bridges and Walter played brilliantly
by John Goodman meet with the feuderal director to determine
what they're going to do with Donnie's ashes, and that
seed starts going through my.
Speaker 2: Head and they get, man, I don't I was not
I did not pull it up.
Speaker 3: Okay, so basically, uh, John Goodman looks at the uh
looks at the cost. Yeah, the cost. He goes, one
hundred dollars. Yeah, yes, sir. He goes, we're scatting now,
we're scattering the ashes. He goes, yes, sir, but the
remains have to be transported in a receptacle. He goes, well,
we're scattered at the fin ashes just because we're bereafed,
does it make we're smike of SAPs? He's like, yell,
and he goes, where're something? Is there a Ralphs around here?
He goes and later gets a Ralph's coffee can, puts
the ashes in ah Ralph's call. But my and my
wife's like, are you laughing? I'm like no, no, but
I'm seeing all these urns, and I'm thinking about Donnie
and Walter from The Big Lebowski talking about ashes, you know,
like just because we're breathing to make a sap. So
I'm like, why is this gonna happen? Now? Why does
this have to? And at that point, they had kind
of gotten overseeing their dad and like things got it
more lighthearted, and they start doing the obituary and remembering him.
But I'm surrounding a room by surrounded by urns thinking
of that. I'm like, man, OCD sucks because how many
I'm like, I'm like trying not to like smirk and
laugh in these lighthearted moments. But then that's when your
OCD comes up.
Speaker 2: But see I always like that, I never thought of
it as OCD. Like I'll get those moments and I'll
laugh and move on. Yeah, like I'll take the thing
is that.
Speaker 3: When you have OCDA, you don't move on. It sticks
in your head. You can't stop thinking. It's like, don't
think about this, don't think about this, don't think about this.
And all I remember is John Goodman flipping out. I mean,
he played the part perfectly. And then later on they
go to spread the ashes and they all blow back
into dude taking. So then so then they told us
to go. If you do go to spread the ashes,
please don't throw them in one place because they're like cement.
When it water comes or if a deer comes and
you know, it will just harden and your your your
father's remains will just sit there like in a pile.
And people are like, well, what's this when you say
you have to put them a little bit here and
a little bit there, because ash is kind of like
it's not like sand, so you got or dust. You
gotta be careful. But I mean, I had those moments
going on during this. So after that was over, we
end up going up to like you know, lunch and everything.
And it's been a process because in my family, like
somebody dies, you plan a church service, you have two
days of a viewing or a day of a viewing,
and then a funeral and then a big gathering afterwards.
Then the body's buried. Then you go back to the
to the to the fun to the grave site and
then you realize, okay, it's over now. For my wife
and my mother in law and you know her, her brother,
it was like that was it, that's it until they
have They're gonna have a memorial service at the end
of the month. But I mean it's like, now, how
do you move on? And I think sometimes in some
cases it's easier, yeah, but you know, but in some
cases it's harder. And in this case, I don't know
what to do other than be there for my wife
because I've never just ah, that's it, We're done well.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you think this generation deals with grief?
Do we talk about it enough?
Speaker 3: Like I think this generation like like I think when
people die, they wear it on their sleeve, like they
use it to their full advantage. When my older sister died,
I was still on Facebook. I didn't talk about it. Yeah,
I refuse to acknowledge it. Not because because the people
who knew knew who needed to know, Because I once,
do you remember Big Daddy? We work with Big Daddy
Dave Beck. When he died, I posted something about it,
and people are sending me the message I'm so sorry.
I'm like, no, it's not about me. I just want
to acknowledge him. I'm not the one who's bereaved here, Okay,
I just knew the guy, and I'm like, I don't
want to come off like I'm the one, like who
needs sympathy. There are some people who freaking do that
and it drives me nuts that, like you know, they
like a friend of a friend dies and all of
a sudden they become the victim, you know, trys to
be crazy.
Speaker 4: No, I see that, like where it's they just they
want the sympathy even though it's attached to.
Speaker 3: Them, right whatever. Right with my sister, I was the
people who needed to know, knew, and it was nobody
else's business, you know. And so I mean there are
people I didn't tell for like months. Oh yeah, by
the way, since you know you asked. My sister passed
the way. But with my my wife, you know, her mother,
they posted something on Facebook because they don't want put
in the paper. Sure, because now the paper, I don't know,
if you know, is the DNC gets printed in Bergen,
New Jersey. Now, so if you put it in No
Bid today, it doesn't get printed till like four days
later unless you want to get in the Sunday paper.
And that's another two hundred dollars. I mean, oh yeah,
it's a whole ordeal.
Speaker 4: So are you doing like a memorial service or a
celebration of life because my stepdad when he passed last June,
it's almost bent a year, and he wanted cremation, nothing
at the church. They just did a celebration of life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just gonna do a memorial service at the church,
probably with his ashes. And guess who's emc in that one,
Danny yep, so with zoc Hey.
Speaker 2: Folks, anybody even remember the scene from.
Speaker 3: I told my wife I was going to talk about this,
you know, but something, Yeah, thank you. But he was
a great He was a great guy, and like her,
she was really close to her dad. And she goes,
you know, I wish I said goodbye to him. He
had the flu kind of and she didn't want to
get near him because she didn't want to get sick
because she got a musical comment up. And she goes,
I wish I just hugged him and said I loved him.
I go, that's why we always say I love you
every time we leave each other, because we never know
if that's going to be the last time we're going
to say goodbye to each other. And she said she loved.
Speaker 2: Who did that a lot too, which sounds kind of
funny because I think they. I think that it's very
common among women, right say hey love you whatever, right,
not so much among guys. And it is something I
do with certain people. I do tooes, No dudes, I do.
I guess I should do it with the guys here
I know, but there's a group of guys that I
always say to this one person and it kind of
came from Bob Saggitt. Bob Saggot was a guy when
he would hang out with all his comedian buddies that
he always tell him I love you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He Jef Ross was one who John Stamos too said.
Stamos said the last time he talked to Bob, he
said he was really at peace and like it felt
like it was their last conversation, even though Bob didn't
know he's gonna die. No, no, no, that's the that's
just how we treated.
Speaker 2: The point is that you just, you know, just remind
those people because uh, yeah, it could happen. What what
do people not realize about being the support person? Maybe
you didn't realize or are realizing now that for someone
that's grieving like your spouse, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I it's different for everybody. Sure,
you just got to be there. Yeah, Stitch Metcalf once
told Tommy our friend and brother wise once maybe even you.
I guess there was a tragedy. Somebody died of a
young age, they lost their son, and somebody goes, what
do you say, and Stitch goes, don't say anything. Yeah,
just just be there for him. You can't say anything,
There's nothing could say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny because I just saw a post
Jesse Itzler, who is the husband of the spanks lady.
Speaker 4: What's her name, Sarah, Sarah Blakely, He had.
Speaker 2: Just posted that. He goes, you know, it's the anniversary
of one of the most tragic moments in my life.
I don't know what happened, he doesn't say, and he said,
when it happened, I get a phone call and then
all of a sudden, my doorbell rings and it's my
friend Dougie Fresh, which sounds funny because but it was
Dougie Fresh. And he just said, what are you doing here?
And he goes, when something like this happens, you don't call,
you show up. And that may be a little overstepping.
Speaker 3: For some people, you know what I mean, They need
a little.
Speaker 2: Privacy, But there is something to that stepping up and
just being there for well.
Speaker 3: The thing is like when when it happened, it was
the NFL draft was going on. I'm getting draft texts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 3: I always returned to note. I always returned text because
I don't want people to think that I'm like ghosting
them or something. I no, no, but like these are
people that mean something to me.
Speaker 4: You all mean something to me too, and sixty I
end up.
Speaker 3: Sending text back on like Sunday and Monday. Go, hey,
sorry I didn't reply to your draft text. Here's my
opinion on this. Oh, by the way, the recent I
did it.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh my god. People most slight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go, I go, But I I didn't mean to,
like not to blow you off. You know, like my
buddy Joe is like calling me. Do you believe this?
They trained up twelve spots aprol. I can't talk right now.
That's father just died, all right, call me back.
Speaker 4: I was at a I was at a dinner party
last June when I got the phone call about my
stepdad and I like looked at all my friends and
I was like, guys, please continue, Like I have to go.
My stepdad just passed, like, but I don't want to
ruin everyone's night, you know, Like, yeah, I know that.
They said, like, well, it's sort of ruined the night.
Speaker 2: But like you know, when you this is my shitty, shitty,
shitty person than I am. But where did you go?
Speaker 4: I went to my mom?
Speaker 2: You did go to your mind?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my whole family. Yeah, I mean my stepdad passed
at home, sitting in a chair, and my whole family
showed up.
Speaker 2: And because I think if I got a call that
one of my real one of my let's say one
of my parents are of that age, if one of
my parents passed, I'd be like, I'd finish my party.
I'll see, I'll go down tomorrow. There's nothing I can do.
They're dead.
Speaker 3: Well, that was the other thing too, There was really
nothing we could do at that point. That goes, should
I go to see? You could go with your mother
right now, but you really ain't gonna change anything. It's
not You're gonna have to come back tonight and then
go back to your parents house tomorrow. You still you
gut still got a rehearsal. She goes, well, I can't
miss musical rehearsal because I'm the only that's the other
thing too. My wife is like nobody's stepping for her,
yeah at this point, So I'm like, listen, it's not
the worst thing in the world to have this musical
or this distraction. Keeping sure, keep you busy. I go,
but I would tell your co workers to be aware
of this situation so they could step up in the
event that you got to like have a moment. Okay,
that that's gonna happen, But what the reality is now,
there's really nothing else we could do other than plan.
There's nothing else you could do. I mean, you can't,
like you can go to the house, but that's not
gonna really change much. And her mother handled it like,
you know, really really well, you know, and I think
she was anticipating this day to come. You know. We
just don't know when it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll take a moment. Since you brought up
the NFL draft. The finds are in. The finds are
in for the prank, you know find yeah, the prank.
Yeah store, but yes, And I don't know how I
feel about this. It's prank. I mean, I get it.
Speaker 3: I have thoughts.
Speaker 2: I get it. But we'll get into but they're pretty
steep fines. I think yeah, and uh, I just wonder,
what's you know this one kid? We'll play the audio
if you didn't hear it of them making the call,
because then they also told them themselves by putting it
out there. So we will get to all that and my.
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Speaker 3: Do you actually know the song.
Speaker 5: O?
Speaker 4: The song?
Speaker 3: I used to call it?
Speaker 2: Really ye in that eight six seven in my area
was Rhinebeck, so we used to They were so nice we'd.
Speaker 3: Be gingling and laughing on the other end of the phone.
Speaker 4: Do you ask for Jenny?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But again you put this song on our karaoke game?
Or I don't know the band. I couldn't give you
the year. I just know the name is eight six seven.
Speaker 2: Three nine yep slash Jenny.
Speaker 3: Who would turn a phone number like and this is
a song? It should be a license plate? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It probably is, Yeah, it probably is.
Speaker 3: I think somebody actually used this number in a commercial,
like like they actually bought the number they call one
and six, seven, five, three or nine.
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna forget it.
Speaker 2: That is great.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cute.
Speaker 2: I used to love making prank phone calls when I
was a kid. I remember, I I loved making prank
phone lost. No, I didn't super things like that. Well, yeah,
when I was a kid, yeah, yeah, break do you
have a john there? And then where do you take
your shit? Hang up? God? Then as I got older,
I made prank phone calls. I think I made prank
phone calls to radio stations, and there's somebody who doesn't
know I met them years later. I used to just
call up and I would just and I had been
on the radio, so this is terrible because I was
already here and I would call up and I would
just go, you suck and they would get offset and
I thought it was so funny, which is kind of mean,
but it was just funny to me. And then I
remember in college being with a bunch of guys at
their house and they wanted me to prank call some girls.
So I did, and I did something ridiculous and then
it ended up not a great spot. I'm in a
bar in this in the girl who had been prank
but it wasn't I wasn't interested in her all. It
was these other guys. She starts to say, she tells
another guy that I did it. So the guy comes over,
taps me on the shoulder and turned around. He knocks
my hat off, and he goes, if you ever do
whatever again? And I and I as he turned his head,
he's gonna be all tough. I grabbed them by the
back of the neck and I smashed his head into
the bar.
Speaker 4: And there he came back.
Speaker 2: All I remember is like getting like a giant scrumb
were pushed out and he and I and I he
went to punch me, and I think, I don't think
he might have hit me in the arm or something,
but I grabbed both his arms, wrapped him up and
then we ended up putting like a huge dent in
the fender of a car because like his body weight,
my body weight in there, and I just held him.
He couldn't move, and I was like, fuck a joke, joke.
It's not like I got doors number.
Speaker 3: That would have been a fun radio bit.
Speaker 4: That would Radio crank calls are like some of the best.
Speaker 2: Well you know why now you know why? Why are
you serious?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: Do you listen to some of the crank calls that
are done?
Speaker 4: Oh no, not anymore. But I'm just thinking in the
day when I would listen and it would be like
the what that it was a local station that would
like war roses, Yeah, like things like that. Joe still
sometimes will listen to stuff and he'll be like, oh
my god, and he'll tell.
Speaker 3: Me should I should I say anything? Or no, no,
don't don't know, not not to be mean. Let me
ask a question.
Speaker 2: Well, they weren't always all fake. Yeah, well, I think
a lot of times in the beginning they weren't. But
then people started hiring because you because the f c
C has rules, I can't call you and tape you
like I.
Speaker 3: Like Jerkey boys type stuff.
Speaker 2: I got, you can't Yeah yeah, I gotten Big Trump
right exactly.
Speaker 3: But like I couldn't call you from the radio station
and get you all worked up. And then it's yeah,
by a lot, it's false deste without.
Speaker 2: Telling you you're being recorded and on the air. It's
against the it's against the law. So what they do
is that's why they use actors and things. So somebody
writes out the scenarios, but they're funny. They're funny, and
you just have to suspend belief. Look, symptoms aren't real either,
and we laugh at those, and the movies aren't real,
and so.
Speaker 3: Just always take it with like exactly.
Speaker 2: And so I would never like go to a fake
if somebody had to sit down and craft the idea
and then go.
Speaker 3: Into it's a lot of work. Yeah, it's a lot
of work to make. We used to work so hard
at putting those together. Yeah, and the people over at
at the company that we used, Yeah, like, man, you
guys are so creative with your call.
Speaker 2: Well we did. I really worked you and I worked
a lot of we did. So there was a time
like we get a black guy for this, We laughed
and we didn't. So, you know, you're finding your own way.
You're sitting in the chair of a guy who had
he's in the National Radio Hall of Fame. Now, yeah,
you know, and.
Speaker 3: So I can read the folk book, draw number.
Speaker 2: What could you do? And so we weren't getting calls,
we were't getting stuff. So I got a service that
was actors, and we used to have like we had
one guy we were it was mostly comics who wanted
a little extra money.
Speaker 3: They would get paid by the service, so we would write.
Speaker 2: I would write these elaborate scripts and then send them
off and sometimes we could pull it off. Sometimes it
came off little fake, but we we had one. We
had one I shouldn't have been.
Speaker 3: We got ripped out of the building for doing it.
And you came back and said, yeah, if you could
do it, how we do it? You would do it,
but you can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was always I was always get we get offended
because it's.
Speaker 2: I was always looking for a fight. It was. But
how about the one where we had so we we
made it? So there was a kid we asked for,
a young sounding guy. He he couldn't get a prom
date and his mom and his mom wasn't gonna let
him go to prom.
Speaker 3: I don't remember how this is.
Speaker 2: We had a listener woman and we stretched this out
over like a month. Yeah, she called up. She goes,
oh my god, I'll go with him. We're telling him
how hot she is. This is all an actor.
Speaker 3: She doesn't know, she has no idea. She thinks this
is legit. We have everybody thinks this legit. Don't know
legit In fact Tommy thought it was legit. Yeah, you
and I are the only.
Speaker 2: One I used to try to really make these people
sound natural. I didn't want anybody sounding like they were
too fake. They needed to be. I wanted actors out
of Chicago because they had a similar Rochester accent. I wanted,
you know, I didn't want New York Western. Yeah, I
want to admit it.
Speaker 3: That was what I always asked for, right, Rochester. Yeah,
because I mean I really tried so well we did.
So then I listen to your show. I got some
thoughts on Tommy's opinion on black people.
Speaker 2: So then we had this woman came in and we
had a webcam in there. It was one of the
early days of UH of having a webcam where you
can see in the studio.
Speaker 3: Ustream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went on u stream and she modeled dresses
for people who were watching.
Speaker 3: We broke the website. Choose the websites. We broke the website.
Speaker 2: Then we got another actress to be the kid's mother
and call up and just fucking unload on us. What
do you think you're doing to my son. He's not
going with someone who's not in high school. How could
you possibly.
Speaker 3: Bob meanwhile, all the creeps are watching her model the
stresses on U stream. We had like tens of thousands
of people and I go did ago. The only thing
I wish we had was a better camera, I mean
because it was it was grainy, but man, they were
like big. It was hysterical.
Speaker 4: How old was this kid?
Speaker 2: Would have been like sixteen, sixteen seven, sixteen seven?
Speaker 4: Okay, he was the woman.
Speaker 2: Thirty one or thirty.
Speaker 4: So similar to the story that we're going to talk.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I should have
should have used that story of transition.
Speaker 3: We have something No, it was we have nothing as ever.
Speaker 2: Really is uh we we have a story that we
will get to. Yes, so one.
Speaker 3: So we used to do these comedy shows, right, I
would play my guitar, Billy and Tommy and whoever else
maybe he was Pat Duffy or somebody else, would do
a comedy show, right Phil Sherman, And we had a
character named Blackhead Black. He just became known as black
because and he was black.
Speaker 2: He was a comic, but he was an actor. Okay, okay,
So the Service paid him and we used to have
him just he was so good. I used to sometimes
not even say that the script. I just go this
is these are the points we're going to hit. And
he was great improving and his real name because he
had a website. So then people started asking where's black
So so we go to.
Speaker 3: The we do these comedy shows and there'll be a
couple of black dudes there and there people walk up
there are you blackhead?
Speaker 2: Yeah? They would walk up to the black eyes and
after the black head, I'm terrible is it?
Speaker 3: Like where is he?
Speaker 4: Why isn't he on the podcast?
Speaker 2: That blackhead?
Speaker 3: Blackhead? We don't know where he was. He could have
been Saint Louis. We don't know ye they were. They
would just call in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like black d because Tommy used to
go off and go, hey, man promised me this. He goes,
tell me this. Every black house has a picture of
Martin Luther King and he goes, yeah, mine had Malcolm
X too.
Speaker 3: Like the guy was just great right there. And it
was just so funny because so for for for Black
History Month, yes, for President's Day, we decided to have
like we were off that day, we had to like,
you know, stack the show. So we just had black
ed calls the entire show. So we had blackhead calling
to promote his appearance on President's Day. That's my middle name, Jefferson,
Black Jefferson ed, because it was Thomas Jefferson's birthday on
President's Day. Yeah, black Jefferson ed.
Speaker 2: So those frank phone calls here in radio probably a
little bit staged, but believe me, the people behind them
are working and trying to make.
Speaker 3: It entertaining for you. That's what we don't want to
call up name every day. Mary, Oh god, are you
sure that this woman isn't trying to prank you? Because
she sounds like the woman you had last week talking about.
Speaker 2: We were starting to get But anyway, this is all
because the prank phone call to Shador that sounded a
little something. I think it's like this.
Speaker 3: These are the kids making the call to Shador.
Speaker 6: Is this is making lumits here the jamail the New
One Saints?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 6: This is making lumbas here?
Speaker 3: Jam in the Saints?
Speaker 6: How do you do?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hi, are you man?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: We have it's been a long wait.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Uh, we're gonna take you with our next.
Speaker 6: Speaker right here, man, and don't be nothing to do,
but you're gonna have to wait a little bit longer, man,
sorry about that, and.
Speaker 2: Then they jump around like I went up with my
buddies at twenty one years old, who just pulled off
a prank like that. On the other side, maybe people
have seen the video they were streaming on x or
they were live streaming the Sanders, So that's why the audio,
if you see it a lot of times, it cuts
out a lot. But they're they handled I thought they
handled it really well. Despite everything, they handled that whole
situation the Sanders, I thought pretty well. Jacks is the
son of the defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich, who is with
the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 3: Yes, he was with the Jets last year.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was the interim head coach for Robert Salah
Jackson's twenty one He goes to Barry College in Georgia.
Jackson is not the one making the phone call, but
he is in the video sitting there watching his buddy
do this and supplied the number. The NFL is doude.
Speaker 4: Hold on, does this group of kids do they have
like their own YouTube station like or was it just
was it a random one off?
Speaker 2: I think they I think it might have been a
random one off, but it was. But they had a
Twitter hanter like Prankie mcprankster or something stupid, okay, silly
or I don't remember what it was. But the NFL
is handed out fines for this. Okay, the fine to
the Atlanta Falcons where the father is the head excuse me,
the defensive coordinator. What do you think that fine is?
Speaker 4: Laura two?
Speaker 2: No, it is a quarter million dollars?
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Fifty? Yeah you're not, I mean yeah, just you're just
off by zero.
Speaker 3: You had a down payment.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars is the fine? How
much do you think the fine is to Jeff Ulbrich,
the father. I will give you a hint. It is
less than the team for fine. But the father is fined.
Speaker 4: One hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: You got it, one hundred thousand dollars. That kid cost
his old man one hundred thousand dollars. That kid in
his body. If I'm the buddy who made the call
and said I'm Loomis, I feel really shitty, like I
don't I don't even know, I don't look. Well, here's
why there's that was and if you watch, if you
watch the Shadoor portion of it, and I had the
audio somewhere, but it's not worth playing exactly, he says,
says this was a private number. Because it's a private number,
I don't know ho everybody would have gotten it. Well somehow,
like Jeff left the iPad open and the kid got
into the iPad.
Speaker 3: There's even more controversy because the NFL uses Windows, so
the fact that Jeff had it on his iPad when
Microsoft apparently isn't happy now that he used a product
that they don't sponsor for NFL business so it could
go even which is ridiculous. This is this is this
is so stupid. Yeah, this is the stupidest thing. I
understand that the NFL. The NFL wants to find the Falcons, fine,
because it's a TV show. They take themselves seriously and
they don't want their guys to get pranked draft. But
this is a prank and everybody's overreacting. Randon Jackson said
for the Bills, he said he got like three or
four prank calls. Okay, it happens.
Speaker 2: Well, I know this. I will always wonder now if
Quentin Gauze, who played for a Quinas uh and then
had a shot with the Eagles and stuff, he was
getting calls during that draft saying we're taking you next,
and then it didn't happen. Anyone undrafted, but nobody ever
thought it was a prank. Now, I don't know that
he had a secured number like Chadur does. I think
that there's other things playing into Schadur's fall. I think it.
You know, when you're partying after getting drafted with a
million dollars in a Louis Vauton trunk and you're waving
around and showing every the money. I think that's the
stuff that's turning people off. You can't tell me that
this is the Manning family and because the Sanders are black,
they're not getting the same treatment. Everything's a TV show
with his family and this kid. I don't know what
it went on behind closed doors. I've heard the stories.
You've heard of this.
Speaker 3: By the way, people there, people went off, People went
off on the Mannings when Eli didn't want to go
to the Chargers, and by the way, which made matters worse.
And this is this is how screwed up society can get.
That weekend that Eli Manning was the OH four draft,
the very famous draft. Now because Eli, Phillip Rivers and
Ben Roethlisberger and of course gp Lossman. We're all taken
in the first round that year, and you know, Manning
was taken first by the Chargers. He made it known
he didn't want to go to the Chargers. And that
weekend Pat Tillman died. So not only like was he
getting crap or not, but then you know, Pet Tilman
died for our country and this guy doesn't want to
play footballs and number one, I mean, this is how
silly we can, right, just like it's silly to find
this dude's dad for a prank because they go on
all the time, but because it's Shooto or Sanders, and
because it's Dion all but and he was projected to
be a number one pick by.
Speaker 7: Idiots, idiots who clearly can't you know, grade quarterbacks. When
they went with all the smoke, they decide, okay, we
have to make a statement here and we gotta find
you should.
Speaker 3: Buy you should find, I mean, you should track down.
Then have your investigators track down everybody who made a prank.
Go to these guys, Hey, what numbers, what calls did
you get? Who pranked you? And then go investigate all.
Speaker 7: Those people too. They may the numbers clearly came from
the NFL. So somebody was wandering around and hacked into
that system. That's another issue.
Speaker 2: Well, hanging on a second, I think that we're you're
you're putting too many things out there that may be
a little bit of a stretch. Uh.
Speaker 3: I say that only because Jeff Ulbrich.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this kid then gave the number
to some other but there there there were a number
of prank calls this Dredft that are known to be pranks.
I don't know that somebody hacked in. But here's the thing.
Everybody has my phone number. I don't know how many
guys college guys are getting a secured phone that nobody
has the number. That's what Shadur had. That's why it
becomes one of these things. You weren't able to protect
our privacy no matter what. And I think that's why
they're finding the fine seemed ridiculously steep over this, I
mean ridiculously steep, dandy, and I'm with you on it.
It's a it's a joke.
Speaker 4: But I go cause harm like it was. It's embarrassing
coming back embarrassed by times.
Speaker 2: One hundred Laura, and I think that too, that the
Shador Sanders fall in this draft. I'd love to see
the ratings for later rounds compared to past years, because
I think people.
Speaker 3: Were curious to see more so when this prank came
out even more.
Speaker 2: I mean, it almost feels like it was a big
conspiracy by the NFL to.
Speaker 3: Get you know what I mean, because because no publicity
is bad public well, I mean, like aside from times.
Speaker 2: But I'll ask you, like, because I don't know, do
you tighten digital security? That becomes the bigger issue.
Speaker 3: That's where the NFL or do you tell every single
possible draft pick get a burner phone, maybe get us
the number, because maybe they do that already.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I'm going what happens if
someone gets your phone, like it makes a prank phone
call from your phone. I had somebody once send a
text message. There was a woman that was sending me
messages and stuff and this person knew and I'm like yeah,
and I had started out what are you laughing at?
Speaker 4: Listening to the story, and I'm wondering.
Speaker 3: How it wasn't how many? How many messages?
Speaker 4: Well, I just know that there have been people who
have reached out to you in various ways.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, and this person had but it's started out
as something. It wasn't this, at least not in the
beginning to me. And then it was like, so I
go to the bathroom, leave my phone, and my good
buddy picks up the phone and writes back, I miss you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to live with three guys.
Speaker 2: And I miss you too. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa.
Speaker 3: But this is never ever there or that. I've also
been pranked by people who got a hold of a
girl's phone that I was talking. Yeah, yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 2: Or or what do you do like if someone like,
I mean, you have young kids, do you ever just
give them your phone to be quiet?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: My kids are on my phone all the time.
Speaker 2: How do they not find certain pictures and things?
Speaker 4: Oh everything's set in it is.
Speaker 3: See you're very good at that. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: And so you know what I'm saying, Like, so, I
was just like, man, if anybody got my phone and
people do make calls, that's the there.
Speaker 4: Actually, there have been times where I'm like, they love
to look through old videos. Yeah, there are times where
I'm like, oh, that's not nothing like nudity, but yeah,
stuff that should not probably be seen.
Speaker 3: Or mom, hello, where's your hand? Wow? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying no, I know.
Speaker 2: But I hear you with it.
Speaker 3: It's a ridiculous because here's the thing. Here's the thing
the NFL. The only people who need your number are
the general manager and the head coach. Right, that's it. Yeah,
maybe the owner, I don't know, nobody, the offensive coordinator,
the defensive coordinator, the special teams coach.
Speaker 2: They may have put it on a thing, you know
what I mean, these are our guys. Here's the numbers
if we decide who we're going to take, you know,
and so everybody has it. Hey, Jeff, you called it's
a defensive guy.
Speaker 4: Musk got it and just sent it out.
Speaker 3: That's the fact that like it's kids doing a prank exactly. Okay,
that's all it is. And so now the NFL's got
to send a message.
Speaker 4: Tried random numbers until you got up.
Speaker 3: But this idea that I mean, schaduor Sanders, I mean this,
this is where why I said before the NFL draft,
my four key words are if you say so, because
Eventually media get burned, and they got burned like they've
never been burned before with Shadoor Sanders, because the real people,
the scouts, the people who do the interviews with the players,
were like, no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he interviewed well, I don't think
I think his I think there was a lot of humor.
Speaker 3: And Tom Peli Sarah got a lot of crap for
putting out the story that there were teams that were
turned off by him, and like, you don't put that
out in public. He's a reporter. Why wouldn't he guess what?
It all came true, didn't it.
Speaker 2: So people were turned off by Baker Mayfield, but he
didn't walk around with a you know what I mean, everything, not.
Speaker 3: To the extent that apparently to Baker Mayfield has talent.
Yah Shaduar Sanders. I mean, like I've said, I thought
he was a decent quarterback in Colorado, but I didn't
think that he was like a first round pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean. The other thing too, is that the media,
every single person who was commenting about Shador Sanders and
popping him up, all had a relationship with Dion Sanders.
They worked with him well, they played with him, right,
So now you want access to Colorado because like, here's
the thing. It wasn't should do her so much that
they wanted to talk to It was Trams Hunter. Tavis
Hunter was the crop, was the prize okay of that draft,
you know, next to cam Ward and so well, Dion
was kind of protecting him too. You want access to
Dion because Dion shut people down for criticizing Colorado football,
like last year in press conferences he's telling, I will
not answer your questions from CBS Sports. That has nothing
to do with you as a reporter personally.
Speaker 4: But you can't.
Speaker 3: I mean, so that's what they're afraid of. They don't
want to piss off Dion. But this kid was not
a first round pick. No, and then if all teams
a draft, of of course it's the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2: Shiloh, his other son, says, uh, he would have been
a second round pick if it wasn't for you, for Dion. Yeah,
he said that to Dion. There's tape he said it
to him. He dead it jokingly, but he said it.
And then right after that, allegedly Dion was to be
their agents. Shilah went undrafted and immediately signed with Rosenberg
Rose Rosehouse. Yes, yeah, and he got the deal in Tampa.
So anyway, they.
Speaker 3: Any trading camp Bodies b TB.
Speaker 2: Wood Fire Pizza and Grille. Laura has been there many
a time, her kids love it. Danny has been there.
We have to do a brunch like a whole group runs.
Speaker 4: We may be there again this Sunday.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 4: The kids just want to go back for brun Why not?
Speaker 2: Hey? The great thing is you're not doing the dishes,
you know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right and two for one of Momosa's I love Laura's.
The Laura went there for the music trivia.
Speaker 3: Okay, it was a great time. Yeah, awesome. Later Michael,
I only.
Speaker 4: Ordered three and then you know, they just bring it down.
Speaker 2: They multiplied multiple flash Moonwalk. But bTB has a great
brunch and they're going to have a great Mother's Day brunch.
You need to make your reservations for that if you're
going to plan on doing that. And it's not a
brunch where you're going up like to the Troth and
everybody's getting the same eggs and I get cold after
a while. It's made to order, which is you know,
exactly what you wanted a brunch, so bTB would fire
pizza and grill. You can go to bTB roc dot
com make your reservations for the Mother's Day brunch. Laura's
here to tell you great brunch. Your kids love it,
and yeah, I mean, I don't think you can have
a better endorsement for like family environment than when the
kids say, I love it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah right, it's Lucas kids the favorite restaurant. That's
why he went there on Thursday. Yeah, on his birthday. Yeah,
for the draft. It was like his only birthday wish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that is great, and that is great.
Speaker 4: But they came home at eleven forty five on a
school night, so they were very great.
Speaker 2: Dad is great too. For the next day. For that
poor kid. We'll take a moment. And I have a
story that I believe. I believe the porn inspire mainstream
and I think we have proof in this story. And
I think portions of this story need to be read
by Laura. Oh wow, we will get to that right
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Speaker 5: We broke God, it was messy and I'm sing best,
let it get the best of me aways and thinking clear, No,
I'll be the bigger person and a lash shot. And
though it really hurts anoither the centler.
Speaker 3: No moving on.
Speaker 5: Oh call in the night will show your house without it,
I don't beg you for mounds a gotten man.
Speaker 1: No with a good out.
Speaker 2: This is Laura stealing her ex Boyfriendad. I'm teasing you, know, Laura.
We heard about sperm races. Oh there was official sperm races.
They did it at USC a seventeen year old kid
to raise awareness for uh the no low sperm count
around the world, which some are saying it's true.
Speaker 3: Some microplasters are saying not low testosterone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some people are saying that these are overinflated.
I don't know it yet, but this kid did this
and they actually had They did weigh ins, they sold tickets,
They did like bumping, and they threw three d animation
whatever they were able. Yeah, and they gave out the
golden sperm and the winter got ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: They can swim it twenty eight miles an hour.
Speaker 2: And they raised a million dollars for from research. And
I think they did it. They did it on a studio,
a Hollywood studio lot event.
Speaker 3: I think they might be.
Speaker 2: But all I could picture, can I say this? Can
I say this because it's really nasty? What I thought? Okay,
I go all because there was one guy who like
shot some white stuff out of a squirt gun at
another guy to make all this stuff, and the losers
got had to go on this tank and they got
covered with slime alladgez. I had a whole news story
on it at LA. But the thing that I kept
thinking is, I go, it's kind of like if you
had a gun full of that and you're at seed
rees and instead of clown mouths with them wide opening,
it's Laura's face.
Speaker 3: Laura made a whole thing about how she likes that.
I don't mean to get to wow. Yes, okay, yes, interesting.
Speaker 2: Remember how when we worked together on morning radio and
our friend, as you've mentioned, Tommy, he would always say
that the and a lot of doctors have been saying
for a while, not a good thing. Pubic care is
there for a reason, you need it, blah blah blah.
People who have had people have it all lasered off.
It's bad. I think I'm watching hacks do anybody watch Hacks?
I love Hacks? Uh yeah, yes, love it, absolutely love it.
And now she gets a late night show, but she
has like a gay assistant and he's like, can you
come with me to this club? Because you're famous and
and I have nothing going for me anymore. I've I
lasered everything from my neck down, and now guys are
into like Harry Chess. They want that, they want hairs back,
and I am incapable of getting any It's just funny
the way it is. But a lot of people did that.
But Tommy used to say, like the bare floor, right,
the shave of vagina and all the shave was started
in porn and then kind of went mainstream. And the
same thing. Now porn, I guess is starting to bring
hair back a little bit, so so I don't yeah,
and some yeah, a little bit, not that I know. However,
the number one form of porn, the number one why category,
that is the label the number one category with Stepmom
for a while, of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's always the most forbidden this yeah, of
course we have yeah, and Danny was near No. We
try to keep the dirty stuff away from Danny.
Speaker 2: But here in real life, Florida nurse was allegedly caught
by her husband having sex with his fifteen year old
son following weeks of reported seduction, and now has lost
her medical license. According to a report, she's.
Speaker 3: Lost her medical license because she had relations with her
step son.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her name is Alexis von Yates's very exotic name.
She's thirty five years old, and I will say that.
On the night of July twenty six, twenty twenty four,
miss Yates put her two children to bed and then
hung out with her fifteen year old step son on
the living room couch. The pair reportedly hit a THC vape,
played video game Adames, and watch movies while his lineman
father not NFL lineman but like Electric lines.
Speaker 3: Ye was working late. At around one am, no Yates flipped.
Speaker 2: On a horror movie Terrorizer Too, then further tempted the miner,
declaring the movie was boring and stating how quote unquote
horny she was because she had not had sex in
two weeks and she was on her period, which I
think that right there would be a turnoff. And I
just saw Laura like story. I'm like, who would say that.
The pair then cuddled closer with the fifteen year old
kissing Yates on the neck, and the pair proceeded to
make out, according to the affidute, with Yates allegedly saying,
and I'm gonna let Laura just Laura, you read the
rest of this story from here, and then just when
we're done, you just hand me back there.
Speaker 3: Still the medical license thing. We'll get to the medical life,
so I.
Speaker 4: Underlined, all right, Yates allegedly saying, I wish you were eighteen,
because you're not old enough. According to the f davit,
Yates then kicked off her panties and the pair engaged
in oral sex and intercourse without a condom. According to
the f davit, the unsuspecting father and husband came home
from his blue collar job to discover his wife to
see his son but completely naked on the couch. The
fifteen year old ran out of the house, but allegedly
heard Yates explain that the child victim look like his
father when he was younger. The fidavit acclaimed, Okay.
Speaker 2: Hang on one second, now, what did you want to say, Danny?
I saw you give him the time outside.
Speaker 3: They had thrown the blue collar part. Yeah, I would
like this guy got to do with anything he came
home from his blue collar might be. I mean, it's
almost like he's like discriminated. She was a doctor, she
married it. Which your tall line? You got it? The
lineman of the county. He comes home to find his
steps his own son fathering next brother.
Speaker 4: Naked on the couch with his wife. Okay, what happens next?
Will suprise?
Speaker 3: Wait? Wait? Wait, what's more?
Speaker 4: The father then drove his son to his grandparents' house,
telling the boy he ruined his life. Well, drinking a
beer on the drive over.
Speaker 3: What does it fit? The blue collar guy's drinking and driving.
He's got his minor kid in the car. He's bringing
him to his parents because he just found his.
Speaker 2: Minor son banging his wife on the couch and telling
him he ruined his life. Yeah, these are some fucked
up people all the way around.
Speaker 3: Like this kid's gonna need from years.
Speaker 2: No Silver Creek.
Speaker 3: Does he totally happened in Silver Creak?
Speaker 2: What do you got?
Speaker 4: Prior to the alleged sex assault, Gates allegedly engaged in
several acts of seduction in overt flirtation towards the miner
I bought everyone thought you were my little boy toy,
Yates allegedly said to her steps On as the pair
finished a workout at the gym she belonged to. On
another occasion, Gates allegedly made a show of making whipped
cream and then put some on her tongue and stuck
it out at the minor. Oh you like that, she said,
solicit solicitly. According to the affidavit.
Speaker 2: Wow it's pretty bad.
Speaker 3: I mean this is.
Speaker 4: Totally step On Born said that this is stat by step,
like what.
Speaker 2: You do and how you do it.
Speaker 3: Paralegal and the court reporter had to have a blash
like writing this out. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Well I don't even know this has gone to court.
This is just the arrest affidavit. So this is David
got typed up?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, I think the cop does. How much
paperwork I gotta do?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: How much he went over and jerked off after the story.
So I'm sure, you say, interviewing the miner. Okay, so
what happened next? Okay, this is what happened next? And
then you sure? So what happened next? Now you sure
that's what happened?
Speaker 2: Is there any more of that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: There is?
Speaker 4: Okay, The fifteen year old also told cops that in
the week leading up to the alleged sexual encounter, Yates
would regularly speak to him about being horny. The day
after the incident, Yates had the gall to call the boy,
saying she wished they had kept having sex and that
her husband had not discovered them. She also asked the
fifteen year old to rate her sexual performance this is
the greatest, to which he replied, yeah, say seven out
of ten.
Speaker 3: So the kid, so okay, here's why I think. Well, sure,
I'm sure this is true that he caught them in
the act a fifteen year old. He's not going to
last long enough to have two sex acts a step
mom and then be able to say seven out of ten? Like,
has this guy been around? Has this kid been around?
Speaker 2: Who knows? Let me just say this. You got a
blue collar dad and he works at night. You think
this kid is not feral. I'm sure he's not, like listening,
but he's he's probably having sex.
Speaker 3: Latch key kids of the nineties, Well, he's.
Speaker 2: Just probably having sex. And the step mom is there,
but it's not her kid.
Speaker 4: But they said that she had two kids with the dad.
I love that she was thirty five and complaining that
she hadn't had sex in two weeks. I'm like, that's
my girl, but I'm still not going to go sleep
with a fifteen year old.
Speaker 2: So, Danny, how should licensing boards way person against professional confidence?
Because you're saying because you're right, here's the thing, there's
I would say that if you knew what a really
brilliant surgeon was into. But he's the best people travel
to come to this surgeon.
Speaker 3: You may not, can we if you watched House House
was a genius, but he was hooked on vicod. Okay,
but you're still a genius like you if you're good
at what you do, I don't care what you do
in your spiritual Well.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, Like just because she I mean,
they're saying, like, you know, moral and ethical choices that
she has made and blah blah blah, and so.
Speaker 3: Therefore she okay, then then send her to jail. What's
that got to do with the medical license part?
Speaker 4: That also said that the husband didn't report it to
the police. A different family member day he did not.
Speaker 2: Report it to the police.
Speaker 3: Somebody y were doing this on periscope.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I don't think I wonder if he was.
Speaker 4: Like embarrassed so clearly the other.
Speaker 2: Person who turned it not well, yes and no, I
I think you're hot in the moment. I think telling
your kid that he ruined your life is you shouldn't
have done that. But like I get it. It's an
ugly moment that I can't imagine. I can't imagine. But
there's a lot of things here that are just screwed up.
And the kid going to the grandparents. I'm sure the
grandparents called, yeah, and they probably never liked this woman,
you know what I mean. If it's his parents, I'm assuming,
and so they're the ones who turn in. I think
that guy was like either knew they were calling or
just was so fucked up in the head and then thought,
I don't want to have my son arrested, or I
don't want her to be arrested, my son to be
I don't want this story.
Speaker 3: Because it gets it gets out. Your life's already ruined
enough now all of a sudden, if it gets out,
somebody's going to jail, right your family, like it just
it becomes news, like we're talking about it.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Florida.
Speaker 4: You said, yeah, for a blue collar.
Speaker 3: Right, the blue collar lineman, the Tallahassee line, it comes
home and finds his Now, the woman was playing, she
was cute.
Speaker 4: What bothers me is to know that she was married
to this guy. They had two kids, so they must
have been together for quite so well for kids.
Speaker 2: That doesn't and didn't say their kids together. So I'm
only reading into that wondering wondering because I thought the
same thing with this like she.
Speaker 4: Been around this kid since he was like seven, and.
Speaker 3: Sounds like I washed that little pecker.
Speaker 2: It's gotten so big.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why is that line from glory Days after she
put her kids to bed? Yeah, that's just trying to
relive her own glory days exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't know the father's reaction to say you ruined
your life.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can only get it could get worse,
bro we're talking about it, I'd billified.
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, like, the one thing that
I and I wish I was, I guess wise would
be the term with my younger guys is I try
really hard not to have the knee jerk reactions, right,
So I'll often get are you asked? Are you mad?
And I'll be like no, but you know, and there's
the right question to go because my parents would be like,
you know.
Speaker 3: You flaff the handle, oh.
Speaker 2: Flipping out, and they're yelling this and somebody's throwing I
was like, you know, oh the God, and I try
not to do that because I'm going, well that that
doesn't solve it, because we still have to live together.
I don't want you to not tell me things. I
don't need to build that resentment in there. I need
to keep an open line of communication. And a lot
of times, like if my son even says to me
something like I don't want to say it, never mind mine,
I'll go, well, you kind of have to because we
can't communicate you. You're anticipating an answer that may or
may not come your way. Right, that's what you're doing.
You're anticipating an answer that you're you're not gonna like
and I'm not gonna say that you're not going to
get that answer because I don't know what the question is.
But we can't. You can't live that way, no, and
we have to have open communication, right, that's the big thing.
Speaker 3: And I just think because at some point they're going
to hold something back that's really.
Speaker 2: Important yeah, like you're fucking your wife.
Speaker 3: Hey dad, Oh my god, hey dad, you guys have
date knight sat.
Speaker 2: She really liked it when.
Speaker 4: The reach around.
Speaker 3: See you're hear the Anthony Ketas story. Anthony Ketas the
childre father there. Yeah, so his drug guy right, druggy.
Oh yeah, he was in the drugs too, So he
was on happy days at one point. He's a child actor.
And his father his name was Blackie, his father and sist.
Did he call him by his nickname Blackie?
Speaker 2: A dealer?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, his dad was a dealer. His dad also
had a girlfriend and that he was poking. And when
Anthony was twelve years old, he goes, Dad, I want to
do your girlfriend. He goes oh, and so they did it.
They arranged it. He was really Yeah, everything his father
was into, he was into, and his father let him.
Speaker 4: Do it, keep it all in the family and there was.
Speaker 3: No questions about it. Nothing, just I mean, you know,
just normal. Yeah, but that's how he got into drugs.
I'm like the song under the Bridge is about his
struggles with heroin, which, by the way, to this day
he still has problems going back and forth and he
doesn't like to talk about it. But his best friend,
Hillel Slovak, who was the original guitar player for the
Chili Peppers. They had like seventy of them. He died
of a heroin overdose. I mean, like, you know, but
this is like he got the opposite approach, where like, hey, dad, yes,
sure we could go along with Well, it's a weird.
Speaker 2: Thing because everybody opposite friends who had like the cool
parents growing up.
Speaker 3: Yes, that as long as they drink under my house,
I know they're not driving anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he had that. Yeah was it your parents
or no? No, no mine either. I actually went after
seeing or prom and I had a limo. We went
to this kid's house and his mother was there and
she was letting people drink and stuff. I didn't stay
long and I left. My father found out that I
was there, and he wrote her a letter.
Speaker 3: My son dark as your doorway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ever again, you are to not allow him entrance.
Speaker 4: My friend her mom, single mom. She had like a
garage and we would have garage parties that was all
black lights and everything. My high school boyfriend's parents grew
hot and they would let us smoke really oh yeah,
drink with them and yeah, three one five.
Speaker 2: No, I know it's three one, fine, But well I
had that too. There were friends that were like that
as well. And I think when we were older, I
mean I remember, like everybody's getting high with everybody's mom
and a graduation party.
Speaker 3: It's like people like that in Soul Creek.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not sure that I wouldn't say that
that's a good idea because I always tried to talk
about it. I try to say to my son's always
I'm I'm not your buddy, right, I'm not your buddy.
But with Jamison, it's a little the lines are slightly
blurred because it's just he and I. There's no buffer
in there, right, so the lines are slightly burt blurred,
and I always have to go, hey, remember I'm not
your buddy, and I can't and we got to have
some rules here, and uh, it's tough, but I can't.
I can't imagine walking in and just seeing I mean,
could you imagine.
Speaker 4: Be asleep on the couch naked?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't. Would you wake him up? Or just
go outside?
Speaker 3: Like I have it.
Speaker 2: I know a story that I and this. I know
a person involved in this, many many, many many years ago. Uh,
very I have to be careful. I don't have to
be careful because I don't think the person's alive anymore.
But it's a story that has been told to me,
like handed down from a generation, so it's the generation
above me. This guy was very active in the Catholic church,
and he had a girlfriend and they had the priest
over and they were all drinking, and the guy passes
out on the couch and wakes up.
Speaker 4: To the priest fucking the girlfriend.
Speaker 2: On the same couch, on the same couch. This person
was a friend of my father's, and my father when
he's telling the story, my father loved to retell this story.
He would always go, well, so and so you're not
still on the couch, so how'd you get out of there?
He goes. The priest was so drunk he got up
and just started puking into his own pants that were
around his knees. And I got up and was like, oh,
oh my gosh, what's going on? I should get out of.
Speaker 3: Here, and got up and left and left.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine though, like yeah, yeah, wow, Like I
to me, that would be the worst.
Speaker 3: Worse than that would be your son banging your your wife.
But that's pretty bad. Yeah, that is pretty.
Speaker 4: Next to them, Like, why can't you just go I
don't know, you gotta be a little sneaky, go upstairs
to a bathroom or go down into a basement.
Speaker 2: Sounds like you've done this before.
Speaker 3: What what do you mean, just use your imagination.
Speaker 2: Somebody else's like your boyfriend passed out and you hooked
up with somebody else. No, okay, then.
Speaker 3: What like.
Speaker 4: With the story that we're not allowed to talk about anything? Okay, yeah,
as someone may complain to their boss. Well we'll talk
about like you know, we sneak downstairs, everyone was hanging out.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, oh oh gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 4: Go get a beer from the beer fridge.
Speaker 2: Got it, I got it.
Speaker 3: He beg you Florida for being Florida. I love you.
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll we'll take a moment. Some people are calling
for Bill Belichick to be fired. Dan, Yeah, yeah you did. Yes, Yes,
We'll play a little bit of the audio and I'll
tell you some other things that I heard, and then
we'll get a few thoughts on the Bills draft, because
I know, I know you wanted to mention a little
bit about that as well. I thought, well, we'll let
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Speaker 3: Among the wild flowers you blow out its sea say
I love this song. I'm thinking could you dedicate.
Speaker 2: It to somebody that could, like you feel free?
Speaker 3: The step mom, No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe yeah, the priest.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was so stunned when you said that. I
didn't even know what to say. There's nothing to say.
It's a true story. I believe it really happened. Yeah,
really happened. I had the sacraments. Yeah, that's why the
Baptist Church, we's grape juice. Well, there's a left by
the way, there's there's like there's rules in First Corinthians
about communion and how it's supposed to be done. Well,
this is a communion. This is at their home. No no, no, no,
I'd be like, but like for the priest to get like,
I'm sure, let's do some communion together, and that's how
it starts. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think they were all of a similar age. The guy,
you know, hey, come over for dinner. My girlfriend's coming
and she'd love to see you too, and blah bah blah,
not thinking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the hot priest takes into a bon
Jovie music video and I love you always.
Speaker 2: The once untouchable NFL head coach known as Bill Belichick, well, boy, okay,
so there's been a lot of things, Like Kevin pointed out,
is it possible that Bill Belichick is losing it a
little bit?
Speaker 3: That was one. Uh, then I'm not focused on Kevin
right now.
Speaker 2: Somebody else said to me, could it be that he's
on the spectrum and he's just really really hyper focused
and great at football and has always had people handling
other things for him. From her, what's raising this question
is the interview on CBS Sunday morning, which was eight
minutes and Tony Decoppo I think is his name, asked
this question, how did you guys meet?
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about this, no, no, it's a topic
from the sideline's comfortable and has recently posted him.
Speaker 2: So there's all that.
Speaker 3: That's something that Belichick would normally be able to say
on his own. We're not talking about this. Yeah, but
we'll talk football. We'll talk football.
Speaker 2: I don't like but Bill. I don't know if he's
trying to do an image change because their Halloween photo
was her and a mermaid suit on the beach and
him fishing, pretending to get her the whole acrobat thing
on his leg on his feet while she's I don't
know if he's trying to soften his image a little
bit from this stoic NFL guy, because a lot of
people said he has a personality.
Speaker 3: He's smart. Yeah, that's one where I'm doing a funnel.
Speaker 2: And He was great when he did analysis. When he
was even on with Peyton and Eli, I thought he
was fantastical.
Speaker 3: This is how you do a keg standy lar.
Speaker 2: But now I think it's Bill. Is it Bill McCartney?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Who is the guy used to play for the Patriots?
Ted Johnson.
Speaker 3: Ted Johnson has worked with my friend Brad Davies in Houston,
and Ted Johnson does not like Bill Belichick. Ted Johnson
blames Bill Belichick for the constant headaches and depression he
has from concussions that went undiagnosed or that he was
made to play through. It's been documented. I'm not telling tales. Okay, Well,
Johnson hates what does a hate Belichick? But he can't hate.
Speaker 2: Thinks that Belichick should be fired from u NC because
the chef.
Speaker 3: What's the cause.
Speaker 2: Uh, he's saying that, let's see. Johnson questions whether Belichick
has the emotional intelligence or character to lead young college athletes,
comparing him unfavorably to Colorado coach Bill McCartney, who was
revered for his moral compass and genuine care for players,
With growing institutional concern about Hudson's influence, even reportedly calling
her a runaway train. The conversation has shifted from strategy
to character. The question now isn't whether Belichick can win,
but whether he still reflects the values a college program
wants to protect.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. Hey, look, all due
respect to Ted Johnson, but you're there to win football games.
It's not about leading young men anymore. They're all getting paid. Now,
go win football games. Hey, that would be That's a
great pollyanna ish idea. You're supposed to lead you. Yeah.
Bill McCartney was great at that at Colorado, he really was.
He was Christian guy held the head coach started promise keepers,
and promise keepers eventually evaporated because they weren't charge people
for the events and it went under. But the point is, though,
that's not a fireable offense. No, that's not a fireable offense.
Speak Now, Kevin could be right about Belichick's starting to
lose his marbles a little bit. I mean, this girl's
a third his age. She's running the show. She reminds
me of the chick from Yellowstone Sarah Atwood she's nuts.
So here she's kind of like a high priced young
here's I shouldn't say what I'm gonna say, but she's horror.
Well she kind of comes off that way, doesn't she.
I don't get horror, not horre, not horror. But some
is the thing a high like a high priced like.
Speaker 2: Well look anles, Yes, high price escort would be a
great answer. You're right, but Anna Nicole Smith was one
who went after an old, old old guy, right, yeah,
and then she Howard Marshall. Now we've got this. But
for some reason I don't I don't know why. Belichick
seems too with it for me, and it's hard to
look at him and go, he's seventy three. Yeah, he
just doesn't look it that way. And when I see
them together, I guess you could go, I mean this
could be you know, grandfather, granddaughter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right at.
Speaker 4: Yes, but it's like she's going to his doctor's appointments
to take notes, but instead she's micromanaging his entire life.
Speaker 2: Okay, right now, but this isn't so people have said, well,
why would CBS leave that in there? It's an awkward moment.
Speaker 3: That's the point.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the point. Well, here's the other thing. It
was a forty minute interview they edited down to eight.
Apparently there were several moments like this, including one where
she got up.
Speaker 3: And walked walked out for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't wave, I don't and Bill and was
upset that Bill didn't come back. So I I'm like going,
And I just think like.
Speaker 3: She knows who he is. He knows who she is.
I mean, like your Belichick, you're seventy three and you
got a chance of something like that. I mean, we
have buddies who are like, yeah, buddy, I know, but
I don't think I could. We don't know until we're
in that situation though exactly. We never I mean, I
mean there were situations that I said, oh, I would
never do that, Oh whoops I did, or good things
that I'm like, I would never do that. Oh I
tried that. Wow that was amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now I love figs year old. Yeah. I mean, in
Belichick's case, she's beautiful, she's gorgeous, and she's with it
and she makes me feel young, okay, great, and she
knows who he is. I mean, and he's got money,
he's got prestige, and she knows she could elevate herself
no matter what happens. Let's get here's a great example,
and it's like two people were in the same age.
Britney Williams has made a career of being Josh Allen's
once girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what has she done?
Speaker 3: No, she's just hot and she's on Instagram way hotter. Yeah,
she dated a pro quarterback and so now all of
a sudden, like I'm on the market.
Speaker 2: She got to the point she went to me, she
went around, she like did a full shirt like she
was sore. Hot. Now I see her. It's like this.
Speaker 3: There's another woman from Fox. She used to be have
Fox Sports one. She was on Cowhurt show, Christine Lahy, right,
and she was kind of okay, and she was also
on America Ninja Warrior or whatever, and she was kind
of just there to give the news at the bottom.
But she was good looking and she would date a
certain type of guy and she let everybody know. All
of a sudden, she starts dating this short agent.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: Why is she like this guy married him? Oh, he's
a billionaire and he happens to be this CEO of Airtable.
You mean it, tell me?
Speaker 2: Based on your checker tell me that she's in love
with him. Maybe a little bit, bro, I'm telling you man,
he treated her the way she wanted.
Speaker 3: There's a phrase that they used at the draft talent
over everything to talent over and whatever that talent is,
if it's money or if it's lux man, whatever, the
highest thing on the chain is if you can reach
out and grab it, guess what you're gonna do it?
Speaker 2: Uh huh? What's the talent? Do you think, Laura?
Speaker 3: Did you look up Britney Williams?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she means a lot of work.
Speaker 4: She's very very injected.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, a lot of work botox, That's what I'm saying.
I find someone I find that unattractive, Yeah, a little
more on natural, Like.
Speaker 3: She's gonna be one of those people where like you
see those videos in thirty years of somebody who's like
face looks kind of deformed because of all the so much.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but then you got to go to the
same doctor that Demi Moore went to and she looks fantastic.
Speaker 4: But like you think about the amount of filler and
even seeing people who are in shape now, you don't
know if they actually try or if it's all fucking ozempic.
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's we're going to find out in
the next five years what ozempic's.
Speaker 2: Really going to do to people. I need ozempic.
Speaker 3: No, you don't drop like you don't know, you don't
just eat less.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like it's not.
Speaker 3: About now, I know, especially when you're when you're metabolic
age is sixty like mine, you gotta work harder.
Speaker 4: She's pretty, but this is a lot of Yeah, I
don't find herrat of it's just a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I have.
Speaker 4: There's seeing pictures of her earlier on and she's not
as fake love, No, she's not.
Speaker 2: And she was a little heavier yeah, yeah, yeah, she's Wyoming,
she was California. She's northern California. Yeah right, she's a
farm girl.
Speaker 3: So I mean in Belichick's should he get fired? No, no, no,
I don't see this trade wreck play itself out, man,
I gotta say. And and by the way, if this
UC football hasn't gotten this much attention, dude, like UC
is a basketball school. The only thing UNC football is
known for really, Forget mich Trubisky, Lawrence Taylor, that's it,
that's it.
Speaker 2: I mean, people are going on we see in the
unraveling of a football genius who stayed too long and
that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: And I the old phrases you live long enough to
become the either die you die the hero, or you
live long enough to become the villain. Belichick became the
villain a long, long time ago. At this point, he's
playing with house money.
Speaker 2: But it is weird, like it doesn't seem to fit
his personality type that we know of to let somebody
else control situations.
Speaker 3: Unless he's so like, do you know, unless you know,
unless he's been so controlling for so long that this
is his way of now like going the opposite direction psychologically.
Speaker 2: Speaky, But have you well now, I've known women who
were like owners of companies and did things and they
would say, you know, small businesses stuff, But they would say,
I want a man to take control because I'm in
control all week. I want to I want to be
taken care of now. Maybe so to your point, maybe
that's part of the Belichick thing. Could be.
Speaker 4: Also, they haven't even been together all that long.
Speaker 2: Three years.
Speaker 3: I think they started what she was twenty.
Speaker 4: One, Bill Belichick and Jordan Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think three years.
Speaker 3: Rome calls or Jordan twenty four or Hudson twenty fourth.
Speaker 2: I think so, I really do. But Laura, have you
seen any of your girlfriends like that controlling of their
guy and thought, oh, I feel bad for him? Or
would you ever say anything if that was a friend
of yours, Like, why would you do that? This is
your show? Yeah, it's not about you. He wrote a
book called The Art of Winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I've personally seen it, but not
with any of my friends. But I have seen it
with some people. And it's just like women are pure
bitches and the men have their tail between their legs practically, but.
Speaker 3: Those Yeah, yeah, I've had women, let's put this on.
I've had women in my life who have told me,
including our old friend Sally Carpenter Danny, run run. You've
also told me to run, but that was different women.
This is like like when women tell you to run, run, yeah,
get out go. I already frame any comments whatsoever. And
other women in my life tell me run at certain points, run.
Speaker 2: Run to walk. Yeah, all right, Well, I think Belichick
will be fine. It is. It just was interesting and
I love knowing. Where did you hear this story about
the rest of the interview where she had walked out
for twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: Was on the Athletic Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's pretty. No, it's not a good look.
Speaker 3: No, it's got to be uncomfortable. And she released a statement.
She wrote a statement and put it on Instagram or
something like that about the situation. I don't know. I mean,
like it gets silly. I mean she's ad practice in
the high heels and dresses on a grass field. Are
you kidding me? Yeah? It looks awkward and cringe. But man,
if you hate Belichick, man get your popular ready.
Speaker 4: Some things are saying they've been together for one year.
Some things are saying they've been together for two years.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, three years.
Speaker 4: Okay, But the point is it's not a They met
in February twenty twenty wine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three years.
Speaker 3: They stayed in I get your number.
Speaker 4: He was in a relationship with Linda.
Speaker 3: Holliday, very attractive, older one.
Speaker 4: Until twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then but then they had video. Remember
the video that came out of him Bill.
Speaker 4: That was just last summer though, was it just last summer?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the roast came out. So the roast came
out when did the Brady cut, By the way, that
was hysterical. Rati roast was when the Brady roast came out,
Rock broke Belichick's balls about yes, talks for a high
school if you scout your old girlfriend up, coach your
k new girlfriend, and then nobody really like we thought
he was just joking about like they like young girls,
and then all of a sudden we find out, oh,
a week later he has a young girlfriend. Okay, so
he so he kept that pretty quiet. Yeah for a while.
But the thing where she said, we're not going to
discuss that about how they met, well, okay, two things.
One was she a high priced escort who decided to
continue a relationship because he's Bill Belichick, so you're continuous work.
Or two she was messing around with him while he
was with the other woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wait, the roast of Tom Brady was last year May fifth.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so this didn't come out until late May
early June.
Speaker 2: About this one, we really knew about a year ago. Yeah, wow,
look at this.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's also a year ago. I think a year
ago today, I had posted.
Speaker 2: Something about Santa Doorley and her driveway, and I remember that.
Speaker 3: I think you and I the only ones who defended her.
Speaker 2: I know it. Oh, I got a ton of ship
for it. But that's all right.
Speaker 3: Bought some good will in the deal, a.
Speaker 4: Lot of ship on the podcast for things. Huh, you
get a lot of ship.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's also happened. You put your name on stuff.
When you talk about the truthbody wants. Nobody wants to
hear the truth. Wants to hear Nobody wants to hear
the truth. Jesus Christ. But I know you don't know
what you're even more had to do with the story
that she told them, Okay, but uh true, Yes, it's truth.
Speaker 2: I just said that like this kind of I thought
that whole thing got overblown and she shouldn't have acted
that way. But you know, she shouldn't have She should
never have acted that way. However, Mike, what's the big
who gets.
Speaker 4: If there's the cop, If a cop is trying to
pull you over, you pull over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she had called a head and she did
the thing, and she wanted to get home, and I
have noise.
Speaker 4: Everyone wants to get home.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying that, but I just go in
the big picture of things again, almost like the nurse
when we can't find nurses who you know, we're gonna
take away your medical license because you make poor judgment,
you know, I mean who knows? And yet you could
be the best nurse nurse Ratchet, I don't know. Uh.
Speaker 3: Now, the thing is, if you commit that type of
that type of crime, then you should fit. You should
be punished for the crime. Okay, but you don't lose
the knowledge of being a nurse. So somebody wants to
hire you for being a nurse, they should be able
to be a nurse. The license is irrelevant to the situation, okay,
Like for example, I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Mean they're looking at a lot of things all day long.
Speaker 3: Laura, I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: She's going to start her own only fans. Oh yeah,
nurse put on the gloves.
Speaker 2: Well, you should really consult her on this stuff, all right,
Danny before we run out of time. The uh the
Bills Draft? Yes, thoughts on the Bills Draft? You do?
Speaker 3: You like it? And I like it?
Speaker 2: All defensive heavy and.
Speaker 3: I thought it was very defensive defense heavy. I let's
put it this way. I have no opinion on the draft.
Since Alan succeeded after that, I don't think anybody should either. Okay,
I'm wise enough to say that. I can't speak for
other people. But if you like the Bills, draft great.
But the Bills have had a track record of drafting
a lot of defensive guys, and they've had a solid defense,
but they've never closed. And the thing is, and I
know a radio station got in trouble and Brandon Bean
when the general manager went after them for all this stuff.
And while as much as I would love for the
GM to go after those guys, they had a point
and Brandon Bee didn't really look very good. All these
Bills payers are saying, oh man, he gave it to him. Yeah,
but did you listen to what he said. He talked
in platitudes, he talked in football speak, and he really
didn't justify what he was doing. Because at the end
of the day, Josh Allen needs another hero and it
can't just be Josh. And who is that guy? We
still don't know. Yeah, and if they don't get to
the Super Bowl and win it this year, now you
gotta look at mc bean meaning McDermott and Brandon Bean
and go, you got one year left, bro, figure it out,
or we're gonna bring in somebody else period period. Because
Bean's drafts, if there are, his drafts have mostly been mediocre.
He's had a few fins, like he's gotten a few guys.
A close secure was a nice fine. Tararon Johnson was
a nice fin. Christian Bedford was a nice fight. Those
are all mid round guys here, Okay, And it's cool.
You want to go defense, that's fine, But I mean,
you can't meet You can't tell me that the best
player on your board every time your turn came to
pick was a defensive player every single time, no matter
what I think, that's insane. I think Sean mcderbott is
a defensive coach and he wanted defensive guys, and that's
what we did. The funny thing is, though, is that
they had to keep drafting more defensive guys because all
the defensive guys they've drafted can't do the job in
the biggest moments of the year. We're gonna fix the defense. Well,
you've been doing that since you've been here. That was
their point. That was the point in Brandon being goes,
this is a fantasy football. There's only one football. That's
coach speak. That's garbage. And by the way, the fact
that you went off on a radio show shows how
fricking weak you are. I really though I like the
fact that he did it, But then I listened to
what he said again, and then he goes on McAfee
and goes, you can't have Pro bowlers in every position.
Oh wait a minute, you don't have any Pro bowlers.
You have Alan? Yeah, and who else? Oh, you're running
back who wants fifty million dollars that you don't want
to pay. If you drafted Pro bowlers, guys who became
Pro bowlers, then maybe you maybe people would have faith.
But you haven't done that. You had to go trade
for a wide receiver last year who's no longer on
the team. You drafted a wide receiver who you criticized.
You drafted a tight end traded up for who you criticized.
So now every single you're setting off the fairport. We
understand how he contradicted himself in that moment. Then he
goes on McAfee and does the same thing. I just
think that, And then he blames his quarterback and says, well,
Josh Sound's making too much money. So that's why you
draft wide receivers, That's why you draft other guys. But
you didn't do that. You let your head coach do
the grocery shopping, and then you got the you got
the credit for it, and when people went after you
for it, you showed that you're too sensitive to understand that.
Speaker 2: I think that it looks like it's a really shot
clocks on. I think it's a really hard job trying
to pick these guys. It is, you know, it just
is right.
Speaker 3: But if you believe in what you're doing, yeah to
radio guys shouldn't get under your skin.
Speaker 2: No, but I think you hear a lot of stuff.
I think I wonder if he was pushed to do
that too. I don't know, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Well, he's been waiting for six years to pull the
Josh Allen card. By the way, we all deserve that
his ninety percent of us were wrong about Josh Allen, which,
by the way, that radio station built the campaign beat
the drum up, don't draft Josh Allen. So he I'm
glad he got that shot in there. He was right
about that.
Speaker 2: But the rest of it just looks so hard. I mean,
they're doing such research. They are guys, I mean they are.
Speaker 3: But they all have their biases.
Speaker 2: Sure, so what it does.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I've had a theory. Greg disagrees. Greg
Connor's disagrees, But I have a theory, and the theory
is that Sean mcdermot's. The theory is that Sean mcdermot's
the guy doing the drafting, not Brandon Bean. Brandon Bean
gets the credit, Brandon Bean's a general manager, but it's
Sean McDermott doing doing the shop. And I I I
think that's the case. And when you let your head
coach do it, what's he gonna do. He's gonna go
with his strength. What's that defense? Okay, well, why doesn't
your defense perform better? And cutch clutch situations? Where's your
stat where's your strategy? Yeah? It works in the regular season. Yeah,
that's great. Well, I want to win THENFC Championship and
go to the Super Bowl. You're go for two in
that department and you're O for six in your last
six playoff finalees AG. So yeah, this is a report card.
You know what?
Speaker 2: You're all for six of this biology class.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen one A. Josh Allen's career is gonna
end like Dan Fouts if they can't win a super Bowl,
if they can get to a Super Bowl. He's oh yeah.
Here's the other thing about a second he compared he could.
He talked about Tom Brady and the Patriot Tom Brady
never had like a star receiver. Oh he didn't. He didn't.
He did have Randy Moss, he did Rus Walker, he
didn't have Kronk. He didn't have Aaron for Aaron Dernanda's
when he wasn't killing people. Oh and by the way,
David Gibbons and Dion Branch weren't exactly slouches. Oh by
the way, Peyton Manning needed stud receivers too, either. He
couldn't beat the Patriots without stud receivers. And you're gonna
compare your team that what Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did.
Are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 2: What give me out?
Speaker 3: And there's a lot You are not Bill Belichick until
you win a Super Bowl or twenty four year old
six of them or d twenty four year old.
Speaker 2: The All right, I gotta get out of here.
Speaker 3: Anything more, though, it is funny to see that other
radio station eat a little Oh it's fine, uh, Laura.
Speaker 2: Great performance as the stepmom telling us of the stepmom.
The next week event is Laura's big birthday coming up
in like a week, No, two weeks, three weeks. Oh yeah,
we're not gonna make yeah yeah for Dan Burrillo. Tough
week and it's gonna be in the role of support,
which is never easy. And UH has deep thoughts, deep
thoughts of the bills letting it out.
Speaker 3: You cannot call yourself. Definitely rays and Randy now Kevin
with Kevin's mom died. That was the weirdest. I think
you got some you know, I like hearing it. I
gotta go because the Buffalo Bills, there's only one gotta trust.
Who's that? That's me.
Speaker 2: I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, tomorrow or girl, girl.
Speaker 2: Can see Bridger.
Speaker 3: Oh they brushing in my tongue. You were seeing serials
doing five to three h