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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka. Color a podcast from the Mac

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of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

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Chrysler Dots Gee Ram, It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on.

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Thanks for telling a friend. I'm excited. I'm excited to

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see Danny. I haven't seen Danny and there's some sun.

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Speaker 3: Excited to see you people too, Can I see you people?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, because our friend Laura is here as well.

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I'm excited about Laura being here because there's a story

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and I think I have to have Laura read portions

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of it like it's phenomenal, it's the great, Like I

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saw this today and I got excited. I like, like

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I was in an a mood and I read this

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like what is wrong with me? That's somebody else's downfall,

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And I go, You're.

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Speaker 4: Also excited about my unplanned text saying I could come

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in tonight?

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Speaker 3: Right? Uh? Yes, I was, I didn't. Is it at

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an agency town? Unplanned text?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Like your show up on podcasts?

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Speaker 2: No? No, I was more excited about a text between

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you and a family member that Kevin. I don't know

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if I was Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that I'll

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leave it there. But that was it.

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Speaker 4: I was like, sorry, dad, Oh.

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Speaker 2: That's too bad. That's very funny.

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Speaker 4: My brother called about the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I was like, not really, Yeah, were they aware?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Wait, oh did we meet your brother? No, we met

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your brother in law.

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Speaker 4: You met my brother in law.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I didn't know you even had a brother.

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Speaker 4: My dad and his second wife.

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Speaker 3: Oh, kad, So this is kind of a baby.

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Speaker 4: They're my half. They my brother and sister. They're half

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They're eight and ten years younger than me. But I

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love them. There, I'm close with them. I'm closer with

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them than I am my dad. My dad's on number three.

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Speaker 2: So oh Dad's on wife number three. Yeah, all right,

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good for dad. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to Variety is the spice of life. There.

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There is, dude, there's life insurance policy and commercials. That's serious.

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Fred's on wife number two. Yeah, it has to get

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another life inshirts policy. I'm not choking, folks, Yeah, yeah,

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there is.

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Speaker 2: It's like for just a dollar of Fred wife number two.

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Don't be like Fred, isn't there like a gold digger

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references ye too, Yeah, there is, there's like a gold

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Digger reference in there. Yeah, but dan uh heavy week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a heavy week. Yeah, we could talk

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about it. Yeah, my wife's father, my father in law,

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had passed away Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But the way it, the way we got the information,

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led to a string of several days of just interesting,

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an interesting story after story about things. But here's what happened.

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Long in the short of it. He had a stroke

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about fifteen years ago. So he wasn't his normal self

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for a long time, right, I mean he was with

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it and everything, but he just couldn't He just couldn't

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do the things he wanted to do with Like he

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was an outdoorsman, he could make computers, he could build stuff.

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He couldn't do any of those things anymore, and hadn't

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done him for fifteen years. Needed the help of a

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walker the last couple of years, and like it was

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hard to have a conversation with him. I mean, the

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stroke really took a lot out of them. And so

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I would do what I could to like try to

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make him laugh or like, you know, I would sneak

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him Eminem's. Like my wife has musicals every year spectually

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has one this weekend. So I'd sit next to him

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and I'd sneak him like peanut Eminem's right here, you

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go all, you know, because his wife would be like,

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are you eating M and m's, you know, yeah, and

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stuff like that. Once I got a heart of or not.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure it wasn't because the man's now dead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just well, well, did he have like a

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chewing issue or.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, none of that. You're right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times swallowing. My mother was a speech

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pathologist and she used to have to go do swallow

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therapy with people, which sounds nuts, right, because you go,

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isn't that sort of an involuntary thing?

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Speaker 3: Not exactly nuts?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when my ex's grandfather passed away, he had had

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a stroke and couldn't chew, and he refused to take

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the swallow test because he's like, I would rather die

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than be fed puriod food.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I didn't like he was, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean like he liked he really enjoyed pro wrestling, so

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I'd set up wrestling on peacock for him. He enjoyed

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watching that. You know. The most conversations I've ever had

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with it was once about more decks. I got into

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a conversation about more decks. He went on for like

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twenty minutes about different sizes of more decks and how

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you like how you can mow your lawn like like

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Oak Hill. Yeah, I mean like he really got into it.

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So it was cool, and I was trying to tap

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into like ways to like get him to, you know,

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come out of himself a little bit. He drove a

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tank down the autubon at one point he drove a tank. Yes,

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he actually had to back up and turn around somebody's yard,

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like to a k turn. Yeah, oops, then go the

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other direction. He was just he really was a man.

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A few words, but he he lived a life and

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then all of a sudden, you know, he has the

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stroke and then for the last fifteen years he just

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wasn't the same, and all of a sudden. So my

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wife had a horrific day on Friday, sure, like at

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work and everything. So I go, okay, well, clearly you're

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not cooking tonight. You want to go out?

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Speaker 2: Sure, let's wait wait wait, wait, wait wait now, now

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why wouldn't you go You know what, honey, let me

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handle the cookie?

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Speaker 3: I did. I go, hey, let's go out. I love it. Yeah,

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so I'm not allowed to use this stuff. So and

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once melted a spatula in the middle of some egs.

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So I just joking. But anyway, uh so we go.

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So I go, okay, I'll meet you at the spot

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in Rochester. And I'm like thirty seconds away from pulling

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the parking lot. I get a phone call. No, no,

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we're not going here. I sat down at a table,

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my wife. Now, I sat down at a table and

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there's no reserve sign. The NFL drafts going on, second round,

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third round, and they they told me, no, you can't

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sit there, that's reserved. And I was like, well that's

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not nice, that's kind of rude. So no, we're not

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going to eat here. I'm like, uh, okay.

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Speaker 2: Ever pull a move like that, Laura, a little power movement.

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Speaker 4: No, if if there's not a reserve sign, why would

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I mean, did the power to seat herself? Was it something?

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Speaker 3: There's no hostess there. There's never a hostess. Just walking

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and seat yourself. That's the whole point, right, you know.

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Speaker 4: So you don't tell the customer there, right, And it's

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a place where it's it's.

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Speaker 2: It's mom, mom, so you know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it could have been because my wife was in

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a certain state at that moment. So she took it. So, okay,

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all right, wait she's still that's what I said. Yeah,

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so I didn't get the waitress's side of the story.

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I just took my wife's side of it because I

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didn't even stop. I go, Okay, where do you want

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to go? You decided? I'm like, all right, I got

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to make another decision. Hey, let's go down park ev No,

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there's no parking. Okay, let's go to this place here,

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we go, go to the next place. We go to the

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next place, no parking there. Where do you want to go? Now?

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You decide? So I find a place. I find a place.

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I find a place to go. We're on the east

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side because she teaches on the east side. Find the place.

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Half hour wait, yeah, okay, no problem. Meanwhile, like you

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can call in ahead in this place. I didn't know this.

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So couples are coming in and they're getting seated before.

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So now she's like not getting but wondering why this

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has happened. So I kind of casually wander over to

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the to the table where they're waiting. You know, the

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may or d and they're not even acknowledging me. They're

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like they've been training, like head down, just keep your

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eyes on the screen. And I look over. Okay, I

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see my name. We're up next, all right. We finally

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get seated. That's another ten minutes for the waitress, then

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another ten minutes with the drink order, then another ten

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minutes with the actual order. Then I get a phone

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call from my mother in law and my wife can

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see the phone and it's her mom's name on the

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phone and she's not calling my wife. Yeah, okay, that's weird.

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So I go, hey, your mom is calling me? Yeah,

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why is that going? And I had a gut feeling

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something was up. Yeah, So I said, hey, Dona, how

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are you? And she goes, is Beth home from musical practice?

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I go, no, she's right here. We're out not to eat.

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you get home. I go, well, is everything okay? Because

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now I'm shouting because we're in a restaurant. It's loud,

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the draft is going on, the Yanks are on okay,

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and it's really busy. She goes, I lost my husband tonight,

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but please don't tell Beth. Just wait till you get

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home and then tell her to call me. I don't

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want her on the road.

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Speaker 2: I get this sentiment of the mom, But that's a

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lot of a lot of pressure on you. But she

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knows when she knows you're out at a dinner together,

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what are you supposed to do? Wait until you get home.

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You know your mom has a surprise for you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so I'm sitting there and I'm not looking

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at my wife, and she's looking at me like what what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm holding my phone tighter and tighter into

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my face because I don't want her to here. But

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that even tells you right there, Yeah, I know, So

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that's going through my head, right yeah. So her mom's

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telling me one thing. My wife's over here, and I'm

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looking straight ahead, and I know full well that I

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need to tell my wife what's going on. I can't,

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but I have to no sell it on the phone

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to not tick off my mother in law, who wasn't

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we be TikTok like because eventually it all worked out.

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But I go, okay, all right, So I couldn't say, oh,

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I'm sorry to hear that. Oh my gosh, that's devastating

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I couldn't say any of that. I'd be okay, I'll

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take care of it. Okay, all right, love you too,

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Bye bye. Take a deep breath, cover my mouth, say

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a little prayer, Grab my wife's hand, look at her,

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and go honey. And I never call her honey. She's boop, honey.

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I don't want to have to tell you this, but

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I have to tell you this now. Your father died.

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And she was like stunned. I'm like, what do you

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want to do? I know she wanted to go home,

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but I wanted her to make the decision to go home.

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I wasn't gonna say, hey, you want to sit around

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have a few drinks, and because what if what if

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she said, yes, I want to process this. I want

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to have a cocktail that whatever you want to do,

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all right, we need to go home. I'm like, okay, listen,

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do not call your mom on the way home, because

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she asked me not to tell you because she doesn't

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want you to get into an accident on the way. God. So,

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but I knew she was gonna call. I'm just I'm

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just messaging my wife. I'm just giving the message in

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the middle of that. So she gets in the car,

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I go, okay, I'm gonna fall, you know, just go.

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I know my way home, like all right, So I'm

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looking at my room fom mirror and making sure I

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see the same set of headlights the whole way, because

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who knows well. She eventually talks to her mother on

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the phone, and her mother tells her everything. We get

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home and it's an hour starving, neither of us have

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been and then we don't even plan to eat because

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she's she's devastated, and so she talks to her mom

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and then they start talking about what do we do next? Right,

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because they told her brother, and her mother was very

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calm about this, almost like relieved in the scenes because

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fifteen years of being a nurse for your husband, all

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of a sudden, it was like, I think she kind

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of expected it to happen, but it drops out of nowhere,

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you can.

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Speaker 2: My cousin was a neurosurgeon, retired down but more of

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my dad's cousin, and actually he it was hit. My

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dad's cousin married this man. He was a West Point graduate,

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did his medical school through the Army h so they

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paid for it. So he did twenty years in the army.

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in time for a stroke. That it's and I think

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it's called the Mendoza method. His name is Ed Mendoza.

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I think that is what it's called. He had a stroke.

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But there's a lot of times. I don't know how

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bad the stroke was for your father in law, but

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that they can you can come back. There's a lot

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of physical therapy, there's a lot of all this stuff.

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He had still hard, had.

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Speaker 3: Many strokes before the big one, so it was a

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lot of damage. So he so he passes the medical exam.

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like they have to go through all these like legalities

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because they have to like do an exam. They have

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to like do try to dow CPR, make sure that

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before okay, before they declare you're dead.

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Speaker 4: Was it like a natural Yeah, yeah, he just.

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Speaker 3: He had been sick. He had been sick and he

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wasn't doing really well. And I had a feeling that

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week like like he like russell Mania was and even

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tho russell Mania supposedly sucked. According to all the Rustle fans,

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he wasn't into like watching it at all, so there

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was kind of like signs it was Easter Sunday, he

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didn't want to eat I mean, so right, right, and

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so he had been sick. So then we get home,

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we talked to her mom about okay, so what's next. Well,

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I'm supposed to meet with the funeral director. I'm going

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to meet Sunday at nine p thirty. I'm like, okay,

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that's well, that's that's church time. But that that's that's okay.

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I go. She goes, he wants to be I'll go

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with you. I don't care. I go. She goes, he

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wants to be cremated. I go, okay. So she goes,

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so I'm sorry you didn't get to say goodbye, and

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I jump in. I go, wait a second, wait a second,

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I go, they will let you do a private viewing

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of the body, so you could say goodbye before he doesn't.

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He doesn't immediately have to get cremated like tonight. Okay,

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there's gonna be a process here, you can do that.

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So I explained this to her. She goes, oh, maybe

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we'll do that. I go, you might want to because

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I think Beth wants to say goodbye, and I think

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you could say goodbye too. So fast forward to Sunday morning.

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There's a private view and you know, my wife asked

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me and my mother will asked me if I could

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go with them, because I've been through this several times,

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you know, with the funeral director. And it's pretty straightforward,

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and they're great people, like they're they're very kind and compassionate,

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and it's pretty much color by number. If you want cremation,

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here's what it costs, if you want a funeral, here's

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what Okay, done right, And but we're sitting there and

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I have o c D and the OCD could kick

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in at the worst possible moments. So they're in tears

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and we're seeing him, you know, laid out, and you

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know we're My wife's crying.

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Speaker 4: I have a feeling. I know what's coming. You do, Yeah,

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all right?

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Speaker 2: Can she guess?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead?

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Speaker 4: Did you like his suit was not straightened and you

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reached in and where you no?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no no. So he was covered with a

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blanket becausemate, without a viewing, without like a public viewing,

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they just put a blanket over you. Put some makeup

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on your face before they send you to the crematorium.

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So you know, it was emotional for my way for

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the first No, for the first ten minutes, No, for

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the first ten minutes. Really they were like getting emotional.

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They called the brother up, they did a FaceTime so

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he could say goodbye, and then all of a sudden,

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a Bill Moran Dan Burrello bit comes into my head

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of our makeup artists on God is out sick. We

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want to know if we can call up Golden Tans

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to see if we can bring the body up. We

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used to call to brown up the meat a little.

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Speaker 2: We used to call tanning salons and say we were

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calling from a funeral home and we had a viewing,

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and our makeup artists called.

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Speaker 3: It was always Yvon our makeup artist, Yavon as I.

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Speaker 2: Said, Danny, do these bits and see could we bring it?

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And sometimes especially got this so out there, like well, yeah,

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if you come in through the back, yeah, we we.

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Speaker 3: Have an awning, but you gotta be quick though. Okay,

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well do you have a wheelchair and we can stand

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them up in the I mean like and some of

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were like we're smart, like wait a minute, oxygen, you

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need oxygen for a tan to work. Okay, So I

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don't know. We go its great tendy. They started actually

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playing along because it's customer service and we The bit

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was how long can Danny keep the Tanning Saloon on

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the phone with a dead body from a funeral home

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to get quote round up? And I got the I

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got some people going on seven eight minutes at one point,

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this is what pops into your head.

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Speaker 4: This is way better than you peeking under the This.

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Speaker 3: Is like ten minutes. It's like ten minutes in because

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everbody's getting emotional and stuff and you know, and like

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then for a second, I'm like it kind of cheered

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me up a bit, but then it's like it's all

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I can think about now, and I'm like trying not

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to like smirk or anything while my well, my wife

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and my mother in law are trying to mourn, even

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though I'm sad because I missed the guy too. He

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was my father in law and all of a sudden,

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but like, Mike, why is this popping into my head now? Right?

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But that's what OCD does. It's like Danny God to

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make you laugh for the most possible moment.

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Speaker 2: Did you no?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I kept it the game. I took a

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deep breath. I kind of walked away for a bit,

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I go, I get some marror, come back, and then

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you know, they said goodbye, and then they go, take

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as much time as you need, all right, So we

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did that, hung up on her brother. Then we go

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to meet with the funeral director about arrangements, and he

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wanted to be cremated. So we start talking about, you know,

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the service, all that goes into it, what you have.

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By the way, there's a lot of legalities involved, like

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they have to tell you by law in New York State. Now,

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once we cremate him, you know, this process is irreversible, correct,

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And they go, you have to initial here to say

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that you understand that not only we told you, but

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you understand that. Right. That's what she said. That's what

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the lady says.

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Speaker 2: She goes the greatest, I would love to meet the

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person that I would have to be a thing of.

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Speaker 3: I would love to write that. So then they go

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to me, we can't get him back, right, And then

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the second OCD moment happens when a scene from a movie,

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Oh you sent me the scene for the movie goes

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into my head. One of my fas favorite scenes ever,

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one of my favorite movies Ever, the scene from The

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Big Lebowski where Donnie played by Steve Buscemi dies and

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the dude played by Jeff Bridges and Walter played brilliantly

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by John Goodman meet with the feuderal director to determine

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what they're going to do with Donnie's ashes, and that

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seed starts going through my.

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Speaker 2: Head and they get, man, I don't I was not

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I did not pull it up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so basically, uh, John Goodman looks at the uh

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looks at the cost. Yeah, the cost. He goes, one

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hundred dollars. Yeah, yes, sir. He goes, we're scatting now,

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we're scattering the ashes. He goes, yes, sir, but the

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remains have to be transported in a receptacle. He goes, well,

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we're scattered at the fin ashes just because we're bereafed,

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does it make we're smike of SAPs? He's like, yell,

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and he goes, where're something? Is there a Ralphs around here?

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He goes and later gets a Ralph's coffee can, puts

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the ashes in ah Ralph's call. But my and my

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wife's like, are you laughing? I'm like no, no, but

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I'm seeing all these urns, and I'm thinking about Donnie

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and Walter from The Big Lebowski talking about ashes, you know,

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like just because we're breathing to make a sap. So

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I'm like, why is this gonna happen? Now? Why does

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this have to? And at that point, they had kind

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of gotten overseeing their dad and like things got it

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more lighthearted, and they start doing the obituary and remembering him.

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But I'm surrounding a room by surrounded by urns thinking

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of that. I'm like, man, OCD sucks because how many

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I'm like, I'm like trying not to like smirk and

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laugh in these lighthearted moments. But then that's when your

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OCD comes up.

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Speaker 2: But see I always like that, I never thought of

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it as OCD. Like I'll get those moments and I'll

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laugh and move on. Yeah, like I'll take the thing

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is that.

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Speaker 3: When you have OCDA, you don't move on. It sticks

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in your head. You can't stop thinking. It's like, don't

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think about this, don't think about this, don't think about this.

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And all I remember is John Goodman flipping out. I mean,

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he played the part perfectly. And then later on they

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go to spread the ashes and they all blow back

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into dude taking. So then so then they told us

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to go. If you do go to spread the ashes,

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please don't throw them in one place because they're like cement.

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When it water comes or if a deer comes and

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you know, it will just harden and your your your

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father's remains will just sit there like in a pile.

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And people are like, well, what's this when you say

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you have to put them a little bit here and

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a little bit there, because ash is kind of like

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it's not like sand, so you got or dust. You

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gotta be careful. But I mean, I had those moments

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going on during this. So after that was over, we

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end up going up to like you know, lunch and everything.

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And it's been a process because in my family, like

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somebody dies, you plan a church service, you have two

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days of a viewing or a day of a viewing,

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and then a funeral and then a big gathering afterwards.

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Then the body's buried. Then you go back to the

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to the to the fun to the grave site and

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then you realize, okay, it's over now. For my wife

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and my mother in law and you know her, her brother,

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it was like that was it, that's it until they

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have They're gonna have a memorial service at the end

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of the month. But I mean it's like, now, how

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do you move on? And I think sometimes in some

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cases it's easier, yeah, but you know, but in some

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cases it's harder. And in this case, I don't know

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what to do other than be there for my wife

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because I've never just ah, that's it, We're done well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how do you think this generation deals with grief?

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Do we talk about it enough?

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Speaker 3: Like I think this generation like like I think when

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people die, they wear it on their sleeve, like they

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use it to their full advantage. When my older sister died,

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I was still on Facebook. I didn't talk about it. Yeah,

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I refuse to acknowledge it. Not because because the people

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who knew knew who needed to know, Because I once,

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do you remember Big Daddy? We work with Big Daddy

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Dave Beck. When he died, I posted something about it,

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and people are sending me the message I'm so sorry.

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I'm like, no, it's not about me. I just want

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to acknowledge him. I'm not the one who's bereaved here, Okay,

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I just knew the guy, and I'm like, I don't

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want to come off like I'm the one, like who

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needs sympathy. There are some people who freaking do that

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and it drives me nuts that, like you know, they

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like a friend of a friend dies and all of

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a sudden they become the victim, you know, trys to

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00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:00,799
be crazy.

468
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: No, I see that, like where it's they just they

469
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,480
want the sympathy even though it's attached to.

470
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,799
Speaker 3: Them, right whatever. Right with my sister, I was the

471
00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:12,359
people who needed to know, knew, and it was nobody

472
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,960
else's business, you know. And so I mean there are

473
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,640
people I didn't tell for like months. Oh yeah, by

474
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,839
the way, since you know you asked. My sister passed

475
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:22,519
the way. But with my my wife, you know, her mother,

476
00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:24,400
they posted something on Facebook because they don't want put

477
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,960
in the paper. Sure, because now the paper, I don't know,

478
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,599
if you know, is the DNC gets printed in Bergen,

479
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,359
New Jersey. Now, so if you put it in No

480
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,880
Bid today, it doesn't get printed till like four days

481
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,240
later unless you want to get in the Sunday paper.

482
00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:37,160
And that's another two hundred dollars. I mean, oh yeah,

483
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,200
it's a whole ordeal.

484
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,759
Speaker 4: So are you doing like a memorial service or a

485
00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:44,920
celebration of life because my stepdad when he passed last June,

486
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,240
it's almost bent a year, and he wanted cremation, nothing

487
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:50,720
at the church. They just did a celebration of life.

488
00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:52,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just gonna do a memorial service at the church,

489
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,200
probably with his ashes. And guess who's emc in that one,

490
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,480
Danny yep, so with zoc Hey.

491
00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: Folks, anybody even remember the scene from.

492
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,599
Speaker 3: I told my wife I was going to talk about this,

493
00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,079
you know, but something, Yeah, thank you. But he was

494
00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:12,839
a great He was a great guy, and like her,

495
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,880
she was really close to her dad. And she goes,

496
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,960
you know, I wish I said goodbye to him. He

497
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:19,400
had the flu kind of and she didn't want to

498
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,240
get near him because she didn't want to get sick

499
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,960
because she got a musical comment up. And she goes,

500
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,680
I wish I just hugged him and said I loved him.

501
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,319
I go, that's why we always say I love you

502
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,880
every time we leave each other, because we never know

503
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,680
if that's going to be the last time we're going

504
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,000
to say goodbye to each other. And she said she loved.

505
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: Who did that a lot too, which sounds kind of

506
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,119
funny because I think they. I think that it's very

507
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,279
common among women, right say hey love you whatever, right,

508
00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:46,759
not so much among guys. And it is something I

509
00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:52,160
do with certain people. I do tooes, No dudes, I do.

510
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,720
I guess I should do it with the guys here

511
00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:57,200
I know, but there's a group of guys that I

512
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,799
always say to this one person and it kind of

513
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:04,279
came from Bob Saggitt. Bob Saggot was a guy when

514
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,079
he would hang out with all his comedian buddies that

515
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,279
he always tell him I love you.

516
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. He Jef Ross was one who John Stamos too said.

517
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,680
Stamos said the last time he talked to Bob, he

518
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,400
said he was really at peace and like it felt

519
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,440
like it was their last conversation, even though Bob didn't

520
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,559
know he's gonna die. No, no, no, that's the that's

521
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:21,279
just how we treated.

522
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: The point is that you just, you know, just remind

523
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,319
those people because uh, yeah, it could happen. What what

524
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,039
do people not realize about being the support person? Maybe

525
00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:34,039
you didn't realize or are realizing now that for someone

526
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:35,799
that's grieving like your spouse, you know.

527
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I it's different for everybody. Sure,

528
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,519
you just got to be there. Yeah, Stitch Metcalf once

529
00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,759
told Tommy our friend and brother wise once maybe even you.

530
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,160
I guess there was a tragedy. Somebody died of a

531
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,759
young age, they lost their son, and somebody goes, what

532
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:57,599
do you say, and Stitch goes, don't say anything. Yeah,

533
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,519
just just be there for him. You can't say anything,

534
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:00,640
There's nothing could say.

535
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny because I just saw a post

536
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:09,920
Jesse Itzler, who is the husband of the spanks lady.

537
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,279
Speaker 4: What's her name, Sarah, Sarah Blakely, He had.

538
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,279
Speaker 2: Just posted that. He goes, you know, it's the anniversary

539
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:21,000
of one of the most tragic moments in my life.

540
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,960
I don't know what happened, he doesn't say, and he said,

541
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,720
when it happened, I get a phone call and then

542
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,759
all of a sudden, my doorbell rings and it's my

543
00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:34,119
friend Dougie Fresh, which sounds funny because but it was

544
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,039
Dougie Fresh. And he just said, what are you doing here?

545
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:39,799
And he goes, when something like this happens, you don't call,

546
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,920
you show up. And that may be a little overstepping.

547
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,799
Speaker 3: For some people, you know what I mean, They need

548
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:45,359
a little.

549
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,839
Speaker 2: Privacy, But there is something to that stepping up and

550
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:50,160
just being there for well.

551
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: The thing is like when when it happened, it was

552
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,200
the NFL draft was going on. I'm getting draft texts.

553
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know.

554
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:58,839
Speaker 3: I always returned to note. I always returned text because

555
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:00,400
I don't want people to think that I'm like ghosting

556
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,680
them or something. I no, no, but like these are

557
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,880
people that mean something to me.

558
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:10,759
Speaker 4: You all mean something to me too, and sixty I

559
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:11,160
end up.

560
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:13,519
Speaker 3: Sending text back on like Sunday and Monday. Go, hey,

561
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:16,119
sorry I didn't reply to your draft text. Here's my

562
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,240
opinion on this. Oh, by the way, the recent I

563
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:18,559
did it.

564
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,599
Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh my god. People most slight.

565
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go, I go, But I I didn't mean to,

566
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,400
like not to blow you off. You know, like my

567
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,200
buddy Joe is like calling me. Do you believe this?

568
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:32,640
They trained up twelve spots aprol. I can't talk right now.

569
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,519
That's father just died, all right, call me back.

570
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 4: I was at a I was at a dinner party

571
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,759
last June when I got the phone call about my

572
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:43,519
stepdad and I like looked at all my friends and

573
00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:47,440
I was like, guys, please continue, Like I have to go.

574
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,599
My stepdad just passed, like, but I don't want to

575
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,279
ruin everyone's night, you know, Like, yeah, I know that.

576
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,960
They said, like, well, it's sort of ruined the night.

577
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: But like you know, when you this is my shitty, shitty,

578
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,440
shitty person than I am. But where did you go?

579
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:08,839
Speaker 4: I went to my mom?

580
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,799
Speaker 2: You did go to your mind?

581
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:13,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, my whole family. Yeah, I mean my stepdad passed

582
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,079
at home, sitting in a chair, and my whole family

583
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:16,519
showed up.

584
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,559
Speaker 2: And because I think if I got a call that

585
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,519
one of my real one of my let's say one

586
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,960
of my parents are of that age, if one of

587
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,480
my parents passed, I'd be like, I'd finish my party.

588
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:27,759
I'll see, I'll go down tomorrow. There's nothing I can do.

589
00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:28,200
They're dead.

590
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: Well, that was the other thing too, There was really

591
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,759
nothing we could do at that point. That goes, should

592
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:37,640
I go to see? You could go with your mother

593
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,079
right now, but you really ain't gonna change anything. It's

594
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,200
not You're gonna have to come back tonight and then

595
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:44,799
go back to your parents house tomorrow. You still you

596
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:46,440
gut still got a rehearsal. She goes, well, I can't

597
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,400
miss musical rehearsal because I'm the only that's the other

598
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,039
thing too. My wife is like nobody's stepping for her,

599
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,519
yeah at this point, So I'm like, listen, it's not

600
00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:56,839
the worst thing in the world to have this musical

601
00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:01,160
or this distraction. Keeping sure, keep you busy. I go,

602
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,480
but I would tell your co workers to be aware

603
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,759
of this situation so they could step up in the

604
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,680
event that you got to like have a moment. Okay,

605
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,119
that that's gonna happen, But what the reality is now,

606
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,559
there's really nothing else we could do other than plan.

607
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,920
There's nothing else you could do. I mean, you can't,

608
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,480
like you can go to the house, but that's not

609
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,079
gonna really change much. And her mother handled it like,

610
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,880
you know, really really well, you know, and I think

611
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,119
she was anticipating this day to come. You know. We

612
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:29,640
just don't know when it's going to happen.

613
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,559
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll take a moment. Since you brought up

614
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:38,559
the NFL draft. The finds are in. The finds are

615
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:44,640
in for the prank, you know find yeah, the prank.

616
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:51,960
Yeah store, but yes, And I don't know how I

617
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,799
feel about this. It's prank. I mean, I get it.

618
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: I have thoughts.

619
00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:01,319
Speaker 2: I get it. But we'll get into but they're pretty

620
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,519
steep fines. I think yeah, and uh, I just wonder,

621
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:09,880
what's you know this one kid? We'll play the audio

622
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,480
if you didn't hear it of them making the call,

623
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,960
because then they also told them themselves by putting it

624
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,519
out there. So we will get to all that and my.

625
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,319
Speaker 3: Best to appreciate you, your family and.

626
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: Beth, and I'll save the ad for the next one.

627
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,720
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Speaker 3: Do you actually know the song.

650
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:00,119
Speaker 5: O?

651
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: The song?

652
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: I used to call it?

653
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:07,599
Speaker 2: Really ye in that eight six seven in my area

654
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:12,039
was Rhinebeck, so we used to They were so nice we'd.

655
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: Be gingling and laughing on the other end of the phone.

656
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,279
Speaker 4: Do you ask for Jenny?

657
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

658
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: But again you put this song on our karaoke game?

659
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:28,640
Or I don't know the band. I couldn't give you

660
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,839
the year. I just know the name is eight six seven.

661
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: Three nine yep slash Jenny.

662
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,119
Speaker 3: Who would turn a phone number like and this is

663
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,079
a song? It should be a license plate? Yeah?

664
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:46,759
Speaker 2: It probably is, Yeah, it probably is.

665
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,319
Speaker 3: I think somebody actually used this number in a commercial,

666
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,319
like like they actually bought the number they call one

667
00:31:55,799 --> 00:31:57,279
and six, seven, five, three or nine.

668
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna forget it.

669
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,599
Speaker 2: That is great.

670
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: Oh that's cute.

671
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: I used to love making prank phone calls when I

672
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,599
was a kid. I remember, I I loved making prank

673
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,640
phone lost. No, I didn't super things like that. Well, yeah,

674
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,400
when I was a kid, yeah, yeah, break do you

675
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,640
have a john there? And then where do you take

676
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:22,160
your shit? Hang up? God? Then as I got older,

677
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,240
I made prank phone calls. I think I made prank

678
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:28,799
phone calls to radio stations, and there's somebody who doesn't

679
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,519
know I met them years later. I used to just

680
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:34,240
call up and I would just and I had been

681
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:36,400
on the radio, so this is terrible because I was

682
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,759
already here and I would call up and I would

683
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:42,160
just go, you suck and they would get offset and

684
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,079
I thought it was so funny, which is kind of mean,

685
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,400
but it was just funny to me. And then I

686
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,359
remember in college being with a bunch of guys at

687
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:51,880
their house and they wanted me to prank call some girls.

688
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,839
So I did, and I did something ridiculous and then

689
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:02,720
it ended up not a great spot. I'm in a

690
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,960
bar in this in the girl who had been prank

691
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,079
but it wasn't I wasn't interested in her all. It

692
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:12,319
was these other guys. She starts to say, she tells

693
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,400
another guy that I did it. So the guy comes over,

694
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,279
taps me on the shoulder and turned around. He knocks

695
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:22,640
my hat off, and he goes, if you ever do

696
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,440
whatever again? And I and I as he turned his head,

697
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,279
he's gonna be all tough. I grabbed them by the

698
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,119
back of the neck and I smashed his head into

699
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,640
the bar.

700
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:37,079
Speaker 4: And there he came back.

701
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:39,799
Speaker 2: All I remember is like getting like a giant scrumb

702
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,759
were pushed out and he and I and I he

703
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:46,480
went to punch me, and I think, I don't think

704
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:48,160
he might have hit me in the arm or something,

705
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,519
but I grabbed both his arms, wrapped him up and

706
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:52,720
then we ended up putting like a huge dent in

707
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,279
the fender of a car because like his body weight,

708
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,000
my body weight in there, and I just held him.

709
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,799
He couldn't move, and I was like, fuck a joke, joke.

710
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,960
It's not like I got doors number.

711
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:06,519
Speaker 3: That would have been a fun radio bit.

712
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,199
Speaker 4: That would Radio crank calls are like some of the best.

713
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: Well you know why now you know why? Why are

714
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:17,960
you serious?

715
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:19,679
Speaker 4: What do you mean?

716
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: Do you listen to some of the crank calls that

717
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:21,679
are done?

718
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: Oh no, not anymore. But I'm just thinking in the

719
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:26,920
day when I would listen and it would be like

720
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,960
the what that it was a local station that would

721
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,320
like war roses, Yeah, like things like that. Joe still

722
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719
sometimes will listen to stuff and he'll be like, oh

723
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,920
my god, and he'll tell.

724
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 3: Me should I should I say anything? Or no, no,

725
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:47,599
don't don't know, not not to be mean. Let me

726
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:48,199
ask a question.

727
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: Well, they weren't always all fake. Yeah, well, I think

728
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,920
a lot of times in the beginning they weren't. But

729
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,960
then people started hiring because you because the f c

730
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:01,400
C has rules, I can't call you and tape you

731
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:01,800
like I.

732
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,679
Speaker 3: Like Jerkey boys type stuff.

733
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 2: I got, you can't Yeah yeah, I gotten Big Trump

734
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,639
right exactly.

735
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:09,599
Speaker 3: But like I couldn't call you from the radio station

736
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,239
and get you all worked up. And then it's yeah,

737
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,920
by a lot, it's false deste without.

738
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: Telling you you're being recorded and on the air. It's

739
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,719
against the it's against the law. So what they do

740
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,960
is that's why they use actors and things. So somebody

741
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,800
writes out the scenarios, but they're funny. They're funny, and

742
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,199
you just have to suspend belief. Look, symptoms aren't real either,

743
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,119
and we laugh at those, and the movies aren't real,

744
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,480
and so.

745
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 3: Just always take it with like exactly.

746
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,119
Speaker 2: And so I would never like go to a fake

747
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,320
if somebody had to sit down and craft the idea

748
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,239
and then go.

749
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: Into it's a lot of work. Yeah, it's a lot

750
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,559
of work to make. We used to work so hard

751
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:46,679
at putting those together. Yeah, and the people over at

752
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,159
at the company that we used, Yeah, like, man, you

753
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:50,760
guys are so creative with your call.

754
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,599
Speaker 2: Well we did. I really worked you and I worked

755
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:55,559
a lot of we did. So there was a time

756
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:58,360
like we get a black guy for this, We laughed

757
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:02,239
and we didn't. So, you know, you're finding your own way.

758
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,679
You're sitting in the chair of a guy who had

759
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,840
he's in the National Radio Hall of Fame. Now, yeah,

760
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,360
you know, and.

761
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,119
Speaker 3: So I can read the folk book, draw number.

762
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: What could you do? And so we weren't getting calls,

763
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,679
we were't getting stuff. So I got a service that

764
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,760
was actors, and we used to have like we had

765
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,360
one guy we were it was mostly comics who wanted

766
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,320
a little extra money.

767
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,039
Speaker 3: They would get paid by the service, so we would write.

768
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:33,199
Speaker 2: I would write these elaborate scripts and then send them

769
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:35,400
off and sometimes we could pull it off. Sometimes it

770
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,480
came off little fake, but we we had one. We

771
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:40,639
had one I shouldn't have been.

772
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,519
Speaker 3: We got ripped out of the building for doing it.

773
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:44,559
And you came back and said, yeah, if you could

774
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:46,559
do it, how we do it? You would do it,

775
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:47,320
but you can't.

776
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

777
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: That was always I was always get we get offended

778
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:53,599
because it's.

779
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: I was always looking for a fight. It was. But

780
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:58,639
how about the one where we had so we we

781
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,159
made it? So there was a kid we asked for,

782
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:05,000
a young sounding guy. He he couldn't get a prom

783
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,519
date and his mom and his mom wasn't gonna let

784
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:08,239
him go to prom.

785
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: I don't remember how this is.

786
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:14,039
Speaker 2: We had a listener woman and we stretched this out

787
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,800
over like a month. Yeah, she called up. She goes,

788
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,719
oh my god, I'll go with him. We're telling him

789
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,599
how hot she is. This is all an actor.

790
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: She doesn't know, she has no idea. She thinks this

791
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,639
is legit. We have everybody thinks this legit. Don't know

792
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,000
legit In fact Tommy thought it was legit. Yeah, you

793
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:33,079
and I are the only.

794
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: One I used to try to really make these people

795
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,199
sound natural. I didn't want anybody sounding like they were

796
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:41,039
too fake. They needed to be. I wanted actors out

797
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:44,639
of Chicago because they had a similar Rochester accent. I wanted,

798
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:47,440
you know, I didn't want New York Western. Yeah, I

799
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,000
want to admit it.

800
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,679
Speaker 3: That was what I always asked for, right, Rochester. Yeah,

801
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:55,280
because I mean I really tried so well we did.

802
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,719
So then I listen to your show. I got some

803
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,199
thoughts on Tommy's opinion on black people.

804
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,639
Speaker 2: So then we had this woman came in and we

805
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,360
had a webcam in there. It was one of the

806
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,360
early days of UH of having a webcam where you

807
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,159
can see in the studio.

808
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,679
Speaker 3: Ustream.

809
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went on u stream and she modeled dresses

810
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:15,519
for people who were watching.

811
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:19,079
Speaker 3: We broke the website. Choose the websites. We broke the website.

812
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,599
Speaker 2: Then we got another actress to be the kid's mother

813
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,599
and call up and just fucking unload on us. What

814
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,159
do you think you're doing to my son. He's not

815
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,559
going with someone who's not in high school. How could

816
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:33,960
you possibly.

817
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:38,519
Speaker 3: Bob meanwhile, all the creeps are watching her model the

818
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,719
stresses on U stream. We had like tens of thousands

819
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,639
of people and I go did ago. The only thing

820
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,719
I wish we had was a better camera, I mean

821
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,239
because it was it was grainy, but man, they were

822
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,880
like big. It was hysterical.

823
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,079
Speaker 4: How old was this kid?

824
00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: Would have been like sixteen, sixteen seven, sixteen seven?

825
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: Okay, he was the woman.

826
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: Thirty one or thirty.

827
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: So similar to the story that we're going to talk.

828
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I should have

829
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,880
should have used that story of transition.

830
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,679
Speaker 3: We have something No, it was we have nothing as ever.

831
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: Really is uh we we have a story that we

832
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,639
will get to. Yes, so one.

833
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: So we used to do these comedy shows, right, I

834
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,360
would play my guitar, Billy and Tommy and whoever else

835
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,119
maybe he was Pat Duffy or somebody else, would do

836
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,599
a comedy show, right Phil Sherman, And we had a

837
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:33,960
character named Blackhead Black. He just became known as black

838
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:35,760
because and he was black.

839
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,119
Speaker 2: He was a comic, but he was an actor. Okay, okay,

840
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,400
So the Service paid him and we used to have

841
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,199
him just he was so good. I used to sometimes

842
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,039
not even say that the script. I just go this

843
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:48,880
is these are the points we're going to hit. And

844
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,320
he was great improving and his real name because he

845
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,519
had a website. So then people started asking where's black

846
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:58,480
So so we go to.

847
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,159
Speaker 3: The we do these comedy shows and there'll be a

848
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:03,079
couple of black dudes there and there people walk up

849
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:03,960
there are you blackhead?

850
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:05,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? They would walk up to the black eyes and

851
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,920
after the black head, I'm terrible is it?

852
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,079
Speaker 3: Like where is he?

853
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,039
Speaker 4: Why isn't he on the podcast?

854
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: That blackhead?

855
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,079
Speaker 3: Blackhead? We don't know where he was. He could have

856
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,880
been Saint Louis. We don't know ye they were. They

857
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,000
would just call in.

858
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like black d because Tommy used to

859
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,960
go off and go, hey, man promised me this. He goes,

860
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,719
tell me this. Every black house has a picture of

861
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,679
Martin Luther King and he goes, yeah, mine had Malcolm

862
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,119
X too.

863
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: Like the guy was just great right there. And it

864
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,880
was just so funny because so for for for Black

865
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,760
History Month, yes, for President's Day, we decided to have

866
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,280
like we were off that day, we had to like,

867
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,199
you know, stack the show. So we just had black

868
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,719
ed calls the entire show. So we had blackhead calling

869
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,599
to promote his appearance on President's Day. That's my middle name, Jefferson,

870
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:54,719
Black Jefferson ed, because it was Thomas Jefferson's birthday on

871
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,599
President's Day. Yeah, black Jefferson ed.

872
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: So those frank phone calls here in radio probably a

873
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,559
little bit staged, but believe me, the people behind them

874
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:04,960
are working and trying to make.

875
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: It entertaining for you. That's what we don't want to

876
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,840
call up name every day. Mary, Oh god, are you

877
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,199
sure that this woman isn't trying to prank you? Because

878
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:15,639
she sounds like the woman you had last week talking about.

879
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 2: We were starting to get But anyway, this is all

880
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,719
because the prank phone call to Shador that sounded a

881
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,239
little something. I think it's like this.

882
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: These are the kids making the call to Shador.

883
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 6: Is this is making lumits here the jamail the New

884
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:40,159
One Saints?

885
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: How you doing?

886
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:44,159
Speaker 6: This is making lumbas here?

887
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,079
Speaker 3: Jam in the Saints?

888
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,199
Speaker 6: How do you do?

889
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:48,599
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hi, are you man?

890
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:52,159
Speaker 6: Yeah?

891
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: We have it's been a long wait.

892
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,199
Speaker 1: Man.

893
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:56,559
Speaker 3: Uh, we're gonna take you with our next.

894
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 6: Speaker right here, man, and don't be nothing to do,

895
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,639
but you're gonna have to wait a little bit longer, man,

896
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:10,039
sorry about that, and.

897
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: Then they jump around like I went up with my

898
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,719
buddies at twenty one years old, who just pulled off

899
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,920
a prank like that. On the other side, maybe people

900
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,960
have seen the video they were streaming on x or

901
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,480
they were live streaming the Sanders, So that's why the audio,

902
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:27,840
if you see it a lot of times, it cuts

903
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,320
out a lot. But they're they handled I thought they

904
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,239
handled it really well. Despite everything, they handled that whole

905
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:41,079
situation the Sanders, I thought pretty well. Jacks is the

906
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:45,440
son of the defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich, who is with

907
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:46,679
the Atlanta Falcons.

908
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,199
Speaker 3: Yes, he was with the Jets last year.

909
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: Yes, he was the interim head coach for Robert Salah

910
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,840
Jackson's twenty one He goes to Barry College in Georgia.

911
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,000
Jackson is not the one making the phone call, but

912
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:59,320
he is in the video sitting there watching his buddy

913
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,920
do this and supplied the number. The NFL is doude.

914
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 4: Hold on, does this group of kids do they have

915
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,840
like their own YouTube station like or was it just

916
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,119
was it a random one off?

917
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: I think they I think it might have been a

918
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,039
random one off, but it was. But they had a

919
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:20,280
Twitter hanter like Prankie mcprankster or something stupid, okay, silly

920
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,639
or I don't remember what it was. But the NFL

921
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,239
is handed out fines for this. Okay, the fine to

922
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,320
the Atlanta Falcons where the father is the head excuse me,

923
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,159
the defensive coordinator. What do you think that fine is?

924
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,199
Speaker 4: Laura two?

925
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: No, it is a quarter million dollars?

926
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,599
Speaker 4: What the fuck?

927
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: Fifty? Yeah you're not, I mean yeah, just you're just

928
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:46,039
off by zero.

929
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: You had a down payment.

930
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,199
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars is the fine? How

931
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,119
much do you think the fine is to Jeff Ulbrich,

932
00:43:55,199 --> 00:43:57,079
the father. I will give you a hint. It is

933
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,199
less than the team for fine. But the father is fined.

934
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 4: One hundred thousand.

935
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: You got it, one hundred thousand dollars. That kid cost

936
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,559
his old man one hundred thousand dollars. That kid in

937
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:12,480
his body. If I'm the buddy who made the call

938
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:16,000
and said I'm Loomis, I feel really shitty, like I

939
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:20,920
don't I don't even know, I don't look. Well, here's

940
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,719
why there's that was and if you watch, if you

941
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,800
watch the Shadoor portion of it, and I had the

942
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,199
audio somewhere, but it's not worth playing exactly, he says,

943
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,920
says this was a private number. Because it's a private number,

944
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,960
I don't know ho everybody would have gotten it. Well somehow,

945
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,519
like Jeff left the iPad open and the kid got

946
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:43,440
into the iPad.

947
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: There's even more controversy because the NFL uses Windows, so

948
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,239
the fact that Jeff had it on his iPad when

949
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:55,800
Microsoft apparently isn't happy now that he used a product

950
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,480
that they don't sponsor for NFL business so it could

951
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,880
go even which is ridiculous. This is this is this

952
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,360
is so stupid. Yeah, this is the stupidest thing. I

953
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,440
understand that the NFL. The NFL wants to find the Falcons, fine,

954
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,199
because it's a TV show. They take themselves seriously and

955
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,480
they don't want their guys to get pranked draft. But

956
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:19,360
this is a prank and everybody's overreacting. Randon Jackson said

957
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,159
for the Bills, he said he got like three or

958
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:23,760
four prank calls. Okay, it happens.

959
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,039
Speaker 2: Well, I know this. I will always wonder now if

960
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:32,519
Quentin Gauze, who played for a Quinas uh and then

961
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:35,119
had a shot with the Eagles and stuff, he was

962
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:38,199
getting calls during that draft saying we're taking you next,

963
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:41,960
and then it didn't happen. Anyone undrafted, but nobody ever

964
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,800
thought it was a prank. Now, I don't know that

965
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,159
he had a secured number like Chadur does. I think

966
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,599
that there's other things playing into Schadur's fall. I think it.

967
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,480
You know, when you're partying after getting drafted with a

968
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,119
million dollars in a Louis Vauton trunk and you're waving

969
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:01,559
around and showing every the money. I think that's the

970
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:03,880
stuff that's turning people off. You can't tell me that

971
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,199
this is the Manning family and because the Sanders are black,

972
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,320
they're not getting the same treatment. Everything's a TV show

973
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,239
with his family and this kid. I don't know what

974
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,159
it went on behind closed doors. I've heard the stories.

975
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:16,639
You've heard of this.

976
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: By the way, people there, people went off, People went

977
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,119
off on the Mannings when Eli didn't want to go

978
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:24,320
to the Chargers, and by the way, which made matters worse.

979
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,199
And this is this is how screwed up society can get.

980
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,000
That weekend that Eli Manning was the OH four draft,

981
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:34,960
the very famous draft. Now because Eli, Phillip Rivers and

982
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,440
Ben Roethlisberger and of course gp Lossman. We're all taken

983
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,760
in the first round that year, and you know, Manning

984
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,719
was taken first by the Chargers. He made it known

985
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,239
he didn't want to go to the Chargers. And that

986
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,599
weekend Pat Tillman died. So not only like was he

987
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:54,239
getting crap or not, but then you know, Pet Tilman

988
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,519
died for our country and this guy doesn't want to

989
00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:58,880
play footballs and number one, I mean, this is how

990
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:02,719
silly we can, right, just like it's silly to find

991
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:07,039
this dude's dad for a prank because they go on

992
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:09,519
all the time, but because it's Shooto or Sanders, and

993
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:12,599
because it's Dion all but and he was projected to

994
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:13,800
be a number one pick by.

995
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 7: Idiots, idiots who clearly can't you know, grade quarterbacks. When

996
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,239
they went with all the smoke, they decide, okay, we

997
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,320
have to make a statement here and we gotta find

998
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:23,960
you should.

999
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:25,559
Speaker 3: Buy you should find, I mean, you should track down.

1000
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:28,000
Then have your investigators track down everybody who made a prank.

1001
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,920
Go to these guys, Hey, what numbers, what calls did

1002
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,440
you get? Who pranked you? And then go investigate all.

1003
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,119
Speaker 7: Those people too. They may the numbers clearly came from

1004
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:40,320
the NFL. So somebody was wandering around and hacked into

1005
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,920
that system. That's another issue.

1006
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 2: Well, hanging on a second, I think that we're you're

1007
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:47,840
you're putting too many things out there that may be

1008
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,239
a little bit of a stretch. Uh.

1009
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:53,079
Speaker 3: I say that only because Jeff Ulbrich.

1010
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if this kid then gave the number

1011
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,039
to some other but there there there were a number

1012
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:01,719
of prank calls this Dredft that are known to be pranks.

1013
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,000
I don't know that somebody hacked in. But here's the thing.

1014
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,320
Everybody has my phone number. I don't know how many

1015
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,280
guys college guys are getting a secured phone that nobody

1016
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,599
has the number. That's what Shadur had. That's why it

1017
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:19,760
becomes one of these things. You weren't able to protect

1018
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,800
our privacy no matter what. And I think that's why

1019
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,880
they're finding the fine seemed ridiculously steep over this, I

1020
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,639
mean ridiculously steep, dandy, and I'm with you on it.

1021
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:31,920
It's a it's a joke.

1022
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:35,559
Speaker 4: But I go cause harm like it was. It's embarrassing

1023
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,360
coming back embarrassed by times.

1024
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,159
Speaker 2: One hundred Laura, and I think that too, that the

1025
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:47,639
Shador Sanders fall in this draft. I'd love to see

1026
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:52,840
the ratings for later rounds compared to past years, because

1027
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:53,920
I think people.

1028
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: Were curious to see more so when this prank came

1029
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,559
out even more.

1030
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it almost feels like it was a big

1031
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,440
conspiracy by the NFL to.

1032
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,559
Speaker 3: Get you know what I mean, because because no publicity

1033
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:09,800
is bad public well, I mean, like aside from times.

1034
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: But I'll ask you, like, because I don't know, do

1035
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,599
you tighten digital security? That becomes the bigger issue.

1036
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:18,559
Speaker 3: That's where the NFL or do you tell every single

1037
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:21,159
possible draft pick get a burner phone, maybe get us

1038
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:24,599
the number, because maybe they do that already.

1039
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:27,639
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I'm going what happens if

1040
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:31,800
someone gets your phone, like it makes a prank phone

1041
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,039
call from your phone. I had somebody once send a

1042
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:39,239
text message. There was a woman that was sending me

1043
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,199
messages and stuff and this person knew and I'm like yeah,

1044
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,639
and I had started out what are you laughing at?

1045
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,599
Speaker 4: Listening to the story, and I'm wondering.

1046
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: How it wasn't how many? How many messages?

1047
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,639
Speaker 4: Well, I just know that there have been people who

1048
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,280
have reached out to you in various ways.

1049
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,679
Speaker 2: So, yeah, and this person had but it's started out

1050
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,599
as something. It wasn't this, at least not in the

1051
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:06,719
beginning to me. And then it was like, so I

1052
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,599
go to the bathroom, leave my phone, and my good

1053
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,719
buddy picks up the phone and writes back, I miss you.

1054
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to live with three guys.

1055
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: And I miss you too. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

1056
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:20,960
whoa whoa.

1057
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: But this is never ever there or that. I've also

1058
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:27,239
been pranked by people who got a hold of a

1059
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,920
girl's phone that I was talking. Yeah, yeah, it sucks.

1060
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: Or or what do you do like if someone like,

1061
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,400
I mean, you have young kids, do you ever just

1062
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,679
give them your phone to be quiet?

1063
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

1064
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:38,679
Speaker 4: My kids are on my phone all the time.

1065
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: How do they not find certain pictures and things?

1066
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,599
Speaker 4: Oh everything's set in it is.

1067
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 3: See you're very good at that. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be.

1068
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 2: And so you know what I'm saying, Like, so, I

1069
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:50,639
was just like, man, if anybody got my phone and

1070
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,280
people do make calls, that's the there.

1071
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 4: Actually, there have been times where I'm like, they love

1072
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,320
to look through old videos. Yeah, there are times where

1073
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,480
I'm like, oh, that's not nothing like nudity, but yeah,

1074
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,239
stuff that should not probably be seen.

1075
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: Or mom, hello, where's your hand? Wow? I don't know.

1076
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:20,039
Speaker 4: I'm just saying no, I know.

1077
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 2: But I hear you with it.

1078
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: It's a ridiculous because here's the thing. Here's the thing

1079
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,920
the NFL. The only people who need your number are

1080
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,199
the general manager and the head coach. Right, that's it. Yeah,

1081
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,360
maybe the owner, I don't know, nobody, the offensive coordinator,

1082
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,519
the defensive coordinator, the special teams coach.

1083
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,639
Speaker 2: They may have put it on a thing, you know

1084
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:39,559
what I mean, these are our guys. Here's the numbers

1085
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:41,800
if we decide who we're going to take, you know,

1086
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,000
and so everybody has it. Hey, Jeff, you called it's

1087
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,519
a defensive guy.

1088
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: Musk got it and just sent it out.

1089
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: That's the fact that like it's kids doing a prank exactly. Okay,

1090
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,400
that's all it is. And so now the NFL's got

1091
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,280
to send a message.

1092
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,519
Speaker 4: Tried random numbers until you got up.

1093
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:03,119
Speaker 3: But this idea that I mean, schaduor Sanders, I mean this,

1094
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:05,840
this is where why I said before the NFL draft,

1095
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,519
my four key words are if you say so, because

1096
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,599
Eventually media get burned, and they got burned like they've

1097
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:16,400
never been burned before with Shadoor Sanders, because the real people,

1098
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:20,039
the scouts, the people who do the interviews with the players,

1099
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:20,880
were like, no.

1100
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he interviewed well, I don't think

1101
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:25,559
I think his I think there was a lot of humor.

1102
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 3: And Tom Peli Sarah got a lot of crap for

1103
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,960
putting out the story that there were teams that were

1104
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,239
turned off by him, and like, you don't put that

1105
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,840
out in public. He's a reporter. Why wouldn't he guess what?

1106
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,320
It all came true, didn't it.

1107
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,679
Speaker 2: So people were turned off by Baker Mayfield, but he

1108
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,239
didn't walk around with a you know what I mean, everything, not.

1109
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,559
Speaker 3: To the extent that apparently to Baker Mayfield has talent.

1110
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,800
Yah Shaduar Sanders. I mean, like I've said, I thought

1111
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,199
he was a decent quarterback in Colorado, but I didn't

1112
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:52,000
think that he was like a first round pick.

1113
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:54,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1114
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:56,199
Speaker 3: I mean. The other thing too, is that the media,

1115
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,800
every single person who was commenting about Shador Sanders and

1116
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,920
popping him up, all had a relationship with Dion Sanders.

1117
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:06,079
They worked with him well, they played with him, right,

1118
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,039
So now you want access to Colorado because like, here's

1119
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:11,159
the thing. It wasn't should do her so much that

1120
00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:14,280
they wanted to talk to It was Trams Hunter. Tavis

1121
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,280
Hunter was the crop, was the prize okay of that draft,

1122
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:20,880
you know, next to cam Ward and so well, Dion

1123
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,920
was kind of protecting him too. You want access to

1124
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,639
Dion because Dion shut people down for criticizing Colorado football,

1125
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,440
like last year in press conferences he's telling, I will

1126
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,639
not answer your questions from CBS Sports. That has nothing

1127
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:33,599
to do with you as a reporter personally.

1128
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: But you can't.

1129
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: I mean, so that's what they're afraid of. They don't

1130
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,320
want to piss off Dion. But this kid was not

1131
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,400
a first round pick. No, and then if all teams

1132
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,480
a draft, of of course it's the Cleveland Browns.

1133
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: Shiloh, his other son, says, uh, he would have been

1134
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,760
a second round pick if it wasn't for you, for Dion. Yeah,

1135
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,119
he said that to Dion. There's tape he said it

1136
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:57,400
to him. He dead it jokingly, but he said it.

1137
00:53:57,559 --> 00:54:00,199
And then right after that, allegedly Dion was to be

1138
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:06,000
their agents. Shilah went undrafted and immediately signed with Rosenberg

1139
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:10,159
Rose Rosehouse. Yes, yeah, and he got the deal in Tampa.

1140
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,920
So anyway, they.

1141
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 3: Any trading camp Bodies b TB.

1142
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:18,599
Speaker 2: Wood Fire Pizza and Grille. Laura has been there many

1143
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:21,920
a time, her kids love it. Danny has been there.

1144
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,960
We have to do a brunch like a whole group runs.

1145
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 4: We may be there again this Sunday.

1146
00:54:26,639 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, what's going on?

1147
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,679
Speaker 4: The kids just want to go back for brun Why not?

1148
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,039
Speaker 2: Hey? The great thing is you're not doing the dishes,

1149
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:37,039
you know, you know what I mean?

1150
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: Ye?

1151
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right and two for one of Momosa's I love Laura's.

1152
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,400
The Laura went there for the music trivia.

1153
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: Okay, it was a great time. Yeah, awesome. Later Michael,

1154
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,079
I only.

1155
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,519
Speaker 4: Ordered three and then you know, they just bring it down.

1156
00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: They multiplied multiple flash Moonwalk. But bTB has a great

1157
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,320
brunch and they're going to have a great Mother's Day brunch.

1158
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,800
You need to make your reservations for that if you're

1159
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,000
going to plan on doing that. And it's not a

1160
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:11,880
brunch where you're going up like to the Troth and

1161
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,159
everybody's getting the same eggs and I get cold after

1162
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:16,440
a while. It's made to order, which is you know,

1163
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,519
exactly what you wanted a brunch, so bTB would fire

1164
00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:22,079
pizza and grill. You can go to bTB roc dot

1165
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:25,280
com make your reservations for the Mother's Day brunch. Laura's

1166
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,840
here to tell you great brunch. Your kids love it,

1167
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and yeah, I mean, I don't think you can have

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a better endorsement for like family environment than when the

1169
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,000
kids say, I love it.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah right, it's Lucas kids the favorite restaurant. That's

1171
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:40,079
why he went there on Thursday. Yeah, on his birthday. Yeah,

1172
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,480
for the draft. It was like his only birthday wish.

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00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that is great, and that is great.

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Speaker 4: But they came home at eleven forty five on a

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school night, so they were very great.

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Speaker 2: Dad is great too. For the next day. For that

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00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,239
poor kid. We'll take a moment. And I have a

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story that I believe. I believe the porn inspire mainstream

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00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:04,440
and I think we have proof in this story. And

1180
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,400
I think portions of this story need to be read

1181
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,679
by Laura. Oh wow, we will get to that right

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mean well, but that's when you need to tune out

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Speaker 5: We broke God, it was messy and I'm sing best,

1203
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:41,239
let it get the best of me aways and thinking clear, No,

1204
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,679
I'll be the bigger person and a lash shot. And

1205
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,320
though it really hurts anoither the centler.

1206
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: No moving on.

1207
00:57:55,719 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 5: Oh call in the night will show your house without it,

1208
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:07,079
I don't beg you for mounds a gotten man.

1209
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: No with a good out.

1210
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:34,559
Speaker 2: This is Laura stealing her ex Boyfriendad. I'm teasing you, know, Laura.

1211
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:40,159
We heard about sperm races. Oh there was official sperm races.

1212
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,360
They did it at USC a seventeen year old kid

1213
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:49,039
to raise awareness for uh the no low sperm count

1214
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,559
around the world, which some are saying it's true.

1215
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: Some microplasters are saying not low testosterone.

1216
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:59,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some people are saying that these are overinflated.

1217
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:01,079
I don't know it yet, but this kid did this

1218
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:05,440
and they actually had They did weigh ins, they sold tickets,

1219
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:09,880
They did like bumping, and they threw three d animation

1220
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:13,199
whatever they were able. Yeah, and they gave out the

1221
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:15,280
golden sperm and the winter got ten thousand dollars.

1222
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,639
Speaker 3: They can swim it twenty eight miles an hour.

1223
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:24,559
Speaker 2: And they raised a million dollars for from research. And

1224
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:26,960
I think they did it. They did it on a studio,

1225
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:30,239
a Hollywood studio lot event.

1226
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Speaker 3: I think they might be.

1227
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,599
Speaker 2: But all I could picture, can I say this? Can

1228
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,639
I say this because it's really nasty? What I thought? Okay,

1229
00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:39,840
I go all because there was one guy who like

1230
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:42,519
shot some white stuff out of a squirt gun at

1231
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:46,280
another guy to make all this stuff, and the losers

1232
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,960
got had to go on this tank and they got

1233
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,360
covered with slime alladgez. I had a whole news story

1234
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,239
on it at LA. But the thing that I kept

1235
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,719
thinking is, I go, it's kind of like if you

1236
00:59:57,719 --> 00:59:59,840
had a gun full of that and you're at seed

1237
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:03,000
rees and instead of clown mouths with them wide opening,

1238
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,599
it's Laura's face.

1239
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,119
Speaker 3: Laura made a whole thing about how she likes that.

1240
01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:15,679
I don't mean to get to wow. Yes, okay, yes, interesting.

1241
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: Remember how when we worked together on morning radio and

1242
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,440
our friend, as you've mentioned, Tommy, he would always say

1243
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,760
that the and a lot of doctors have been saying

1244
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,239
for a while, not a good thing. Pubic care is

1245
01:00:33,239 --> 01:00:37,000
there for a reason, you need it, blah blah blah.

1246
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,159
People who have had people have it all lasered off.

1247
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:43,840
It's bad. I think I'm watching hacks do anybody watch Hacks?

1248
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:50,599
I love Hacks? Uh yeah, yes, love it, absolutely love it.

1249
01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:52,440
And now she gets a late night show, but she

1250
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:56,639
has like a gay assistant and he's like, can you

1251
01:00:56,719 --> 01:01:00,039
come with me to this club? Because you're famous and

1252
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:03,119
and I have nothing going for me anymore. I've I

1253
01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:06,360
lasered everything from my neck down, and now guys are

1254
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,519
into like Harry Chess. They want that, they want hairs back,

1255
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:13,840
and I am incapable of getting any It's just funny

1256
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:15,800
the way it is. But a lot of people did that.

1257
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,000
But Tommy used to say, like the bare floor, right,

1258
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:24,480
the shave of vagina and all the shave was started

1259
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:28,239
in porn and then kind of went mainstream. And the

1260
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,800
same thing. Now porn, I guess is starting to bring

1261
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,119
hair back a little bit, so so I don't yeah,

1262
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:39,800
and some yeah, a little bit, not that I know. However,

1263
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:47,199
the number one form of porn, the number one why category,

1264
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,440
that is the label the number one category with Stepmom

1265
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,280
for a while, of course.

1266
01:01:54,199 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's always the most forbidden this yeah, of

1267
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,199
course we have yeah, and Danny was near No. We

1268
01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:03,880
try to keep the dirty stuff away from Danny.

1269
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:11,079
Speaker 2: But here in real life, Florida nurse was allegedly caught

1270
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:16,159
by her husband having sex with his fifteen year old

1271
01:02:16,199 --> 01:02:21,119
son following weeks of reported seduction, and now has lost

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01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:24,280
her medical license. According to a report, she's.

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01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: Lost her medical license because she had relations with her

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step son.

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01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, her name is Alexis von Yates's very exotic name.

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01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:40,199
She's thirty five years old, and I will say that.

1277
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,400
On the night of July twenty six, twenty twenty four,

1278
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,960
miss Yates put her two children to bed and then

1279
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,239
hung out with her fifteen year old step son on

1280
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:58,400
the living room couch. The pair reportedly hit a THC vape,

1281
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:03,039
played video game Adames, and watch movies while his lineman

1282
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:06,400
father not NFL lineman but like Electric lines.

1283
01:03:06,679 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: Ye was working late. At around one am, no Yates flipped.

1284
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:19,079
Speaker 2: On a horror movie Terrorizer Too, then further tempted the miner,

1285
01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:24,159
declaring the movie was boring and stating how quote unquote

1286
01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:27,719
horny she was because she had not had sex in

1287
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,639
two weeks and she was on her period, which I

1288
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:33,119
think that right there would be a turnoff. And I

1289
01:03:33,159 --> 01:03:36,159
just saw Laura like story. I'm like, who would say that.

1290
01:03:36,639 --> 01:03:39,320
The pair then cuddled closer with the fifteen year old

1291
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,800
kissing Yates on the neck, and the pair proceeded to

1292
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:47,559
make out, according to the affidute, with Yates allegedly saying,

1293
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:51,280
and I'm gonna let Laura just Laura, you read the

1294
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,760
rest of this story from here, and then just when

1295
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,119
we're done, you just hand me back there.

1296
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,639
Speaker 3: Still the medical license thing. We'll get to the medical life,

1297
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:01,079
so I.

1298
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:06,079
Speaker 4: Underlined, all right, Yates allegedly saying, I wish you were eighteen,

1299
01:04:06,519 --> 01:04:09,880
because you're not old enough. According to the f davit,

1300
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:14,960
Yates then kicked off her panties and the pair engaged

1301
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,119
in oral sex and intercourse without a condom. According to

1302
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:23,280
the f davit, the unsuspecting father and husband came home

1303
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,719
from his blue collar job to discover his wife to

1304
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,320
see his son but completely naked on the couch. The

1305
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,559
fifteen year old ran out of the house, but allegedly

1306
01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:38,480
heard Yates explain that the child victim look like his

1307
01:04:38,719 --> 01:04:42,639
father when he was younger. The fidavit acclaimed, Okay.

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01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: Hang on one second, now, what did you want to say, Danny?

1309
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,599
I saw you give him the time outside.

1310
01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: They had thrown the blue collar part. Yeah, I would

1311
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,760
like this guy got to do with anything he came

1312
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,400
home from his blue collar might be. I mean, it's

1313
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:00,119
almost like he's like discriminated. She was a doctor, she

1314
01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:04,119
married it. Which your tall line? You got it? The

1315
01:05:04,199 --> 01:05:07,400
lineman of the county. He comes home to find his

1316
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:11,159
steps his own son fathering next brother.

1317
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:16,639
Speaker 4: Naked on the couch with his wife. Okay, what happens next?

1318
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:17,360
Will suprise?

1319
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 3: Wait? Wait? Wait, what's more?

1320
01:05:21,199 --> 01:05:24,159
Speaker 4: The father then drove his son to his grandparents' house,

1321
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:27,320
telling the boy he ruined his life. Well, drinking a

1322
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,400
beer on the drive over.

1323
01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 3: What does it fit? The blue collar guy's drinking and driving.

1324
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,639
He's got his minor kid in the car. He's bringing

1325
01:05:40,679 --> 01:05:42,719
him to his parents because he just found his.

1326
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: Minor son banging his wife on the couch and telling

1327
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,360
him he ruined his life. Yeah, these are some fucked

1328
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:50,719
up people all the way around.

1329
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:54,559
Speaker 3: Like this kid's gonna need from years.

1330
01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: No Silver Creek.

1331
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: Does he totally happened in Silver Creak?

1332
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,039
Speaker 2: What do you got?

1333
01:06:01,719 --> 01:06:05,719
Speaker 4: Prior to the alleged sex assault, Gates allegedly engaged in

1334
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,440
several acts of seduction in overt flirtation towards the miner

1335
01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:14,360
I bought everyone thought you were my little boy toy,

1336
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,519
Yates allegedly said to her steps On as the pair

1337
01:06:17,559 --> 01:06:20,920
finished a workout at the gym she belonged to. On

1338
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:25,280
another occasion, Gates allegedly made a show of making whipped

1339
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,039
cream and then put some on her tongue and stuck

1340
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:31,880
it out at the minor. Oh you like that, she said,

1341
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,400
solicit solicitly. According to the affidavit.

1342
01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:38,079
Speaker 2: Wow it's pretty bad.

1343
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:39,039
Speaker 3: I mean this is.

1344
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,679
Speaker 4: Totally step On Born said that this is stat by step,

1345
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:44,800
like what.

1346
01:06:44,719 --> 01:06:45,679
Speaker 2: You do and how you do it.

1347
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,679
Speaker 3: Paralegal and the court reporter had to have a blash

1348
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,320
like writing this out. Oh my god.

1349
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,239
Speaker 2: Well I don't even know this has gone to court.

1350
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,800
This is just the arrest affidavit. So this is David

1351
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:56,519
got typed up?

1352
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, I think the cop does. How much

1353
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:01,800
paperwork I gotta do?

1354
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:02,079
Speaker 5: Now?

1355
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:05,519
Speaker 3: How much he went over and jerked off after the story.

1356
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,679
So I'm sure, you say, interviewing the miner. Okay, so

1357
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:11,960
what happened next? Okay, this is what happened next? And

1358
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:16,880
then you sure? So what happened next? Now you sure

1359
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:17,559
that's what happened?

1360
01:07:17,559 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: Is there any more of that?

1361
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:19,239
Speaker 4: Oh?

1362
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:19,679
Speaker 3: There is?

1363
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 4: Okay, The fifteen year old also told cops that in

1364
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,599
the week leading up to the alleged sexual encounter, Yates

1365
01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:31,679
would regularly speak to him about being horny. The day

1366
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,119
after the incident, Yates had the gall to call the boy,

1367
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,840
saying she wished they had kept having sex and that

1368
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,880
her husband had not discovered them. She also asked the

1369
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:46,320
fifteen year old to rate her sexual performance this is

1370
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,840
the greatest, to which he replied, yeah, say seven out

1371
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,159
of ten.

1372
01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:00,239
Speaker 3: So the kid, so okay, here's why I think. Well, sure,

1373
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,280
I'm sure this is true that he caught them in

1374
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,239
the act a fifteen year old. He's not going to

1375
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,599
last long enough to have two sex acts a step

1376
01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:12,239
mom and then be able to say seven out of ten? Like,

1377
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,320
has this guy been around? Has this kid been around?

1378
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:17,279
Speaker 2: Who knows? Let me just say this. You got a

1379
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:23,800
blue collar dad and he works at night. You think

1380
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,520
this kid is not feral. I'm sure he's not, like listening,

1381
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,399
but he's he's probably having sex.

1382
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,279
Speaker 3: Latch key kids of the nineties, Well, he's.

1383
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: Just probably having sex. And the step mom is there,

1384
01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:36,399
but it's not her kid.

1385
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: But they said that she had two kids with the dad.

1386
01:08:40,079 --> 01:08:42,520
I love that she was thirty five and complaining that

1387
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,119
she hadn't had sex in two weeks. I'm like, that's

1388
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:48,239
my girl, but I'm still not going to go sleep

1389
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:49,680
with a fifteen year old.

1390
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:56,119
Speaker 2: So, Danny, how should licensing boards way person against professional confidence?

1391
01:08:57,119 --> 01:09:01,079
Because you're saying because you're right, here's the thing, there's

1392
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,680
I would say that if you knew what a really

1393
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:11,600
brilliant surgeon was into. But he's the best people travel

1394
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,079
to come to this surgeon.

1395
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: You may not, can we if you watched House House

1396
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,039
was a genius, but he was hooked on vicod. Okay,

1397
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:24,399
but you're still a genius like you if you're good

1398
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:25,880
at what you do, I don't care what you do

1399
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:26,800
in your spiritual Well.

1400
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, Like just because she I mean,

1401
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,079
they're saying, like, you know, moral and ethical choices that

1402
01:09:32,199 --> 01:09:34,399
she has made and blah blah blah, and so.

1403
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,079
Speaker 3: Therefore she okay, then then send her to jail. What's

1404
01:09:37,119 --> 01:09:38,840
that got to do with the medical license part?

1405
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 4: That also said that the husband didn't report it to

1406
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,720
the police. A different family member day he did not.

1407
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: Report it to the police.

1408
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,319
Speaker 3: Somebody y were doing this on periscope.

1409
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I don't think I wonder if he was.

1410
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,199
Speaker 4: Like embarrassed so clearly the other.

1411
01:09:56,119 --> 01:10:00,119
Speaker 2: Person who turned it not well, yes and no, I

1412
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,960
I think you're hot in the moment. I think telling

1413
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:07,680
your kid that he ruined your life is you shouldn't

1414
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,319
have done that. But like I get it. It's an

1415
01:10:10,399 --> 01:10:14,319
ugly moment that I can't imagine. I can't imagine. But

1416
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,760
there's a lot of things here that are just screwed up.

1417
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,680
And the kid going to the grandparents. I'm sure the

1418
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,199
grandparents called, yeah, and they probably never liked this woman,

1419
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,079
you know what I mean. If it's his parents, I'm assuming,

1420
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,239
and so they're the ones who turn in. I think

1421
01:10:28,279 --> 01:10:32,159
that guy was like either knew they were calling or

1422
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,560
just was so fucked up in the head and then thought,

1423
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,399
I don't want to have my son arrested, or I

1424
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,279
don't want her to be arrested, my son to be

1425
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,760
I don't want this story.

1426
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: Because it gets it gets out. Your life's already ruined

1427
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,880
enough now all of a sudden, if it gets out,

1428
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,479
somebody's going to jail, right your family, like it just

1429
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,760
it becomes news, like we're talking about it.

1430
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1431
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:52,039
Speaker 3: Florida.

1432
01:10:52,079 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 4: You said, yeah, for a blue collar.

1433
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,119
Speaker 3: Right, the blue collar lineman, the Tallahassee line, it comes

1434
01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:02,880
home and finds his Now, the woman was playing, she

1435
01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:04,359
was cute.

1436
01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 4: What bothers me is to know that she was married

1437
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,439
to this guy. They had two kids, so they must

1438
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,600
have been together for quite so well for kids.

1439
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,159
Speaker 2: That doesn't and didn't say their kids together. So I'm

1440
01:11:18,199 --> 01:11:21,319
only reading into that wondering wondering because I thought the

1441
01:11:21,319 --> 01:11:22,720
same thing with this like she.

1442
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,399
Speaker 4: Been around this kid since he was like seven, and.

1443
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 3: Sounds like I washed that little pecker.

1444
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,039
Speaker 2: It's gotten so big.

1445
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, why is that line from glory Days after she

1446
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:42,239
put her kids to bed? Yeah, that's just trying to

1447
01:11:42,279 --> 01:11:44,199
relive her own glory days exactly.

1448
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: I don't know the father's reaction to say you ruined

1449
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:48,479
your life.

1450
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,279
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can only get it could get worse,

1451
01:11:51,319 --> 01:11:53,880
bro we're talking about it, I'd billified.

1452
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,239
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, like, the one thing that

1453
01:11:56,279 --> 01:12:03,520
I and I wish I was, I guess wise would

1454
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,560
be the term with my younger guys is I try

1455
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,199
really hard not to have the knee jerk reactions, right,

1456
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,399
So I'll often get are you asked? Are you mad?

1457
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,119
And I'll be like no, but you know, and there's

1458
01:12:18,119 --> 01:12:20,640
the right question to go because my parents would be like,

1459
01:12:21,319 --> 01:12:21,680
you know.

1460
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,520
Speaker 3: You flaff the handle, oh.

1461
01:12:23,319 --> 01:12:27,359
Speaker 2: Flipping out, and they're yelling this and somebody's throwing I

1462
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,000
was like, you know, oh the God, and I try

1463
01:12:31,039 --> 01:12:33,199
not to do that because I'm going, well that that

1464
01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:36,520
doesn't solve it, because we still have to live together.

1465
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,079
I don't want you to not tell me things. I

1466
01:12:39,079 --> 01:12:41,760
don't need to build that resentment in there. I need

1467
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,119
to keep an open line of communication. And a lot

1468
01:12:44,119 --> 01:12:46,000
of times, like if my son even says to me

1469
01:12:46,039 --> 01:12:48,439
something like I don't want to say it, never mind mine,

1470
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,720
I'll go, well, you kind of have to because we

1471
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,319
can't communicate you. You're anticipating an answer that may or

1472
01:12:55,319 --> 01:12:58,199
may not come your way. Right, that's what you're doing.

1473
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:00,880
You're anticipating an answer that you're you're not gonna like

1474
01:13:01,399 --> 01:13:04,159
and I'm not gonna say that you're not going to

1475
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:06,119
get that answer because I don't know what the question is.

1476
01:13:06,399 --> 01:13:08,479
But we can't. You can't live that way, no, and

1477
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,239
we have to have open communication, right, that's the big thing.

1478
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,039
Speaker 3: And I just think because at some point they're going

1479
01:13:15,119 --> 01:13:16,520
to hold something back that's really.

1480
01:13:16,359 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: Important yeah, like you're fucking your wife.

1481
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: Hey dad, Oh my god, hey dad, you guys have

1482
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:25,079
date knight sat.

1483
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,039
Speaker 2: She really liked it when.

1484
01:13:30,279 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 4: The reach around.

1485
01:13:34,079 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: See you're hear the Anthony Ketas story. Anthony Ketas the

1486
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,279
childre father there. Yeah, so his drug guy right, druggy.

1487
01:13:42,319 --> 01:13:43,600
Oh yeah, he was in the drugs too, So he

1488
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,600
was on happy days at one point. He's a child actor.

1489
01:13:46,199 --> 01:13:49,439
And his father his name was Blackie, his father and sist.

1490
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:50,880
Did he call him by his nickname Blackie?

1491
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 2: A dealer?

1492
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, his dad was a dealer. His dad also

1493
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,520
had a girlfriend and that he was poking. And when

1494
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,119
Anthony was twelve years old, he goes, Dad, I want to

1495
01:13:59,119 --> 01:14:01,840
do your girlfriend. He goes oh, and so they did it.

1496
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,600
They arranged it. He was really Yeah, everything his father

1497
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,000
was into, he was into, and his father let him.

1498
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 4: Do it, keep it all in the family and there was.

1499
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 3: No questions about it. Nothing, just I mean, you know,

1500
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,199
just normal. Yeah, but that's how he got into drugs.

1501
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:20,079
I'm like the song under the Bridge is about his

1502
01:14:20,399 --> 01:14:22,640
struggles with heroin, which, by the way, to this day

1503
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,079
he still has problems going back and forth and he

1504
01:14:25,079 --> 01:14:26,880
doesn't like to talk about it. But his best friend,

1505
01:14:27,119 --> 01:14:29,439
Hillel Slovak, who was the original guitar player for the

1506
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,800
Chili Peppers. They had like seventy of them. He died

1507
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,520
of a heroin overdose. I mean, like, you know, but

1508
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,840
this is like he got the opposite approach, where like, hey, dad, yes,

1509
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,079
sure we could go along with Well, it's a weird.

1510
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: Thing because everybody opposite friends who had like the cool

1511
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:45,720
parents growing up.

1512
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 3: Yes, that as long as they drink under my house,

1513
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:50,800
I know they're not driving anywhere.

1514
01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he had that. Yeah was it your parents

1515
01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:59,239
or no? No, no mine either. I actually went after

1516
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,760
seeing or prom and I had a limo. We went

1517
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,520
to this kid's house and his mother was there and

1518
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,680
she was letting people drink and stuff. I didn't stay

1519
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,000
long and I left. My father found out that I

1520
01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:11,359
was there, and he wrote her a letter.

1521
01:15:12,399 --> 01:15:14,199
Speaker 3: My son dark as your doorway.

1522
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:18,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, ever again, you are to not allow him entrance.

1523
01:15:18,359 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 4: My friend her mom, single mom. She had like a

1524
01:15:22,039 --> 01:15:24,520
garage and we would have garage parties that was all

1525
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,680
black lights and everything. My high school boyfriend's parents grew

1526
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,119
hot and they would let us smoke really oh yeah,

1527
01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:34,960
drink with them and yeah, three one five.

1528
01:15:35,279 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: No, I know it's three one, fine, But well I

1529
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,600
had that too. There were friends that were like that

1530
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,560
as well. And I think when we were older, I

1531
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,239
mean I remember, like everybody's getting high with everybody's mom

1532
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:48,720
and a graduation party.

1533
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,319
Speaker 3: It's like people like that in Soul Creek.

1534
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not sure that I wouldn't say that

1535
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,800
that's a good idea because I always tried to talk

1536
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,760
about it. I try to say to my son's always

1537
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,920
I'm I'm not your buddy, right, I'm not your buddy.

1538
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,520
But with Jamison, it's a little the lines are slightly

1539
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,800
blurred because it's just he and I. There's no buffer

1540
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,000
in there, right, so the lines are slightly burt blurred,

1541
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,359
and I always have to go, hey, remember I'm not

1542
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,520
your buddy, and I can't and we got to have

1543
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:22,279
some rules here, and uh, it's tough, but I can't.

1544
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,479
I can't imagine walking in and just seeing I mean,

1545
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,119
could you imagine.

1546
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,079
Speaker 4: Be asleep on the couch naked?

1547
01:16:30,279 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1548
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:32,079
Speaker 4: What the fuck?

1549
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't. Would you wake him up? Or just

1550
01:16:35,119 --> 01:16:35,760
go outside?

1551
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:36,399
Speaker 3: Like I have it.

1552
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,079
Speaker 2: I know a story that I and this. I know

1553
01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:44,560
a person involved in this, many many, many many years ago. Uh,

1554
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:50,840
very I have to be careful. I don't have to

1555
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,479
be careful because I don't think the person's alive anymore.

1556
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,119
But it's a story that has been told to me,

1557
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,560
like handed down from a generation, so it's the generation

1558
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:05,840
above me. This guy was very active in the Catholic church,

1559
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:08,600
and he had a girlfriend and they had the priest

1560
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:13,199
over and they were all drinking, and the guy passes

1561
01:17:13,239 --> 01:17:16,279
out on the couch and wakes up.

1562
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 4: To the priest fucking the girlfriend.

1563
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:23,159
Speaker 2: On the same couch, on the same couch. This person

1564
01:17:23,359 --> 01:17:26,399
was a friend of my father's, and my father when

1565
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:29,039
he's telling the story, my father loved to retell this story.

1566
01:17:29,239 --> 01:17:32,039
He would always go, well, so and so you're not

1567
01:17:32,079 --> 01:17:33,920
still on the couch, so how'd you get out of there?

1568
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,680
He goes. The priest was so drunk he got up

1569
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,319
and just started puking into his own pants that were

1570
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,479
around his knees. And I got up and was like, oh,

1571
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,800
oh my gosh, what's going on? I should get out of.

1572
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,319
Speaker 3: Here, and got up and left and left.

1573
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 2: Could you imagine though, like yeah, yeah, wow, Like I

1574
01:17:51,039 --> 01:17:54,000
to me, that would be the worst.

1575
01:17:54,399 --> 01:17:58,039
Speaker 3: Worse than that would be your son banging your your wife.

1576
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,680
But that's pretty bad. Yeah, that is pretty.

1577
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 4: Next to them, Like, why can't you just go I

1578
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:09,159
don't know, you gotta be a little sneaky, go upstairs

1579
01:18:09,359 --> 01:18:11,920
to a bathroom or go down into a basement.

1580
01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: Sounds like you've done this before.

1581
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 3: What what do you mean, just use your imagination.

1582
01:18:19,319 --> 01:18:22,520
Speaker 2: Somebody else's like your boyfriend passed out and you hooked

1583
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,760
up with somebody else. No, okay, then.

1584
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 3: What like.

1585
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:34,319
Speaker 4: With the story that we're not allowed to talk about anything? Okay, yeah,

1586
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,880
as someone may complain to their boss. Well we'll talk

1587
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,079
about like you know, we sneak downstairs, everyone was hanging out.

1588
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, oh oh gotcha, gotcha.

1589
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,319
Speaker 4: Go get a beer from the beer fridge.

1590
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 2: Got it, I got it.

1591
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 3: He beg you Florida for being Florida. I love you.

1592
01:18:55,119 --> 01:18:58,079
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll we'll take a moment. Some people are calling

1593
01:18:58,079 --> 01:19:03,479
for Bill Belichick to be fired. Dan, Yeah, yeah you did. Yes, Yes,

1594
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,640
We'll play a little bit of the audio and I'll

1595
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,560
tell you some other things that I heard, and then

1596
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,720
we'll get a few thoughts on the Bills draft, because

1597
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,800
I know, I know you wanted to mention a little

1598
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,800
bit about that as well. I thought, well, we'll let

1599
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,439
you say because there were low grades from some place

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that I think they're wrong, a little off myself. We'll

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Speaker 3: Among the wild flowers you blow out its sea say

1634
01:21:29,119 --> 01:21:32,399
I love this song. I'm thinking could you dedicate.

1635
01:21:32,039 --> 01:21:36,159
Speaker 2: It to somebody that could, like you feel free?

1636
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:38,520
Speaker 3: The step mom, No.

1637
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe yeah, the priest.

1638
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was so stunned when you said that. I

1639
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,680
didn't even know what to say. There's nothing to say.

1640
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:53,159
It's a true story. I believe it really happened. Yeah,

1641
01:21:54,039 --> 01:21:57,239
really happened. I had the sacraments. Yeah, that's why the

1642
01:21:57,239 --> 01:21:59,720
Baptist Church, we's grape juice. Well, there's a left by

1643
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:04,279
the way, there's there's like there's rules in First Corinthians

1644
01:22:04,279 --> 01:22:07,159
about communion and how it's supposed to be done. Well,

1645
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:10,199
this is a communion. This is at their home. No no, no, no,

1646
01:22:10,159 --> 01:22:12,000
I'd be like, but like for the priest to get like,

1647
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:14,880
I'm sure, let's do some communion together, and that's how

1648
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,880
it starts. I don't know.

1649
01:22:17,319 --> 01:22:21,319
Speaker 2: I think they were all of a similar age. The guy,

1650
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,319
you know, hey, come over for dinner. My girlfriend's coming

1651
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,479
and she'd love to see you too, and blah bah blah,

1652
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:27,079
not thinking.

1653
01:22:27,279 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the hot priest takes into a bon

1654
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,760
Jovie music video and I love you always.

1655
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:46,359
Speaker 2: The once untouchable NFL head coach known as Bill Belichick, well, boy, okay,

1656
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,680
so there's been a lot of things, Like Kevin pointed out,

1657
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:53,079
is it possible that Bill Belichick is losing it a

1658
01:22:53,079 --> 01:22:53,520
little bit?

1659
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,239
Speaker 3: That was one. Uh, then I'm not focused on Kevin

1660
01:22:58,279 --> 01:22:58,600
right now.

1661
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: Somebody else said to me, could it be that he's

1662
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,399
on the spectrum and he's just really really hyper focused

1663
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,760
and great at football and has always had people handling

1664
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:12,199
other things for him. From her, what's raising this question

1665
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,319
is the interview on CBS Sunday morning, which was eight

1666
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:22,000
minutes and Tony Decoppo I think is his name, asked

1667
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,000
this question, how did you guys meet?

1668
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about this, no, no, it's a topic

1669
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:35,039
from the sideline's comfortable and has recently posted him.

1670
01:23:35,319 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 2: So there's all that.

1671
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 3: That's something that Belichick would normally be able to say

1672
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,600
on his own. We're not talking about this. Yeah, but

1673
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:42,960
we'll talk football. We'll talk football.

1674
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,119
Speaker 2: I don't like but Bill. I don't know if he's

1675
01:23:46,119 --> 01:23:50,199
trying to do an image change because their Halloween photo

1676
01:23:50,279 --> 01:23:52,079
was her and a mermaid suit on the beach and

1677
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:56,199
him fishing, pretending to get her the whole acrobat thing

1678
01:23:56,319 --> 01:24:00,000
on his leg on his feet while she's I don't

1679
01:24:00,119 --> 01:24:02,000
know if he's trying to soften his image a little

1680
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,720
bit from this stoic NFL guy, because a lot of

1681
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,439
people said he has a personality.

1682
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 3: He's smart. Yeah, that's one where I'm doing a funnel.

1683
01:24:10,399 --> 01:24:13,319
Speaker 2: And He was great when he did analysis. When he

1684
01:24:13,399 --> 01:24:15,600
was even on with Peyton and Eli, I thought he

1685
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:16,399
was fantastical.

1686
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 3: This is how you do a keg standy lar.

1687
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 2: But now I think it's Bill. Is it Bill McCartney?

1688
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 5: No?

1689
01:24:25,359 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 2: Who is the guy used to play for the Patriots?

1690
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:28,439
Ted Johnson.

1691
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 3: Ted Johnson has worked with my friend Brad Davies in Houston,

1692
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,960
and Ted Johnson does not like Bill Belichick. Ted Johnson

1693
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,560
blames Bill Belichick for the constant headaches and depression he

1694
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,640
has from concussions that went undiagnosed or that he was

1695
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:46,600
made to play through. It's been documented. I'm not telling tales. Okay, Well,

1696
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,720
Johnson hates what does a hate Belichick? But he can't hate.

1697
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 2: Thinks that Belichick should be fired from u NC because

1698
01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:58,079
the chef.

1699
01:24:58,479 --> 01:24:59,159
Speaker 3: What's the cause.

1700
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 2: Uh, he's saying that, let's see. Johnson questions whether Belichick

1701
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,640
has the emotional intelligence or character to lead young college athletes,

1702
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,880
comparing him unfavorably to Colorado coach Bill McCartney, who was

1703
01:25:12,319 --> 01:25:15,479
revered for his moral compass and genuine care for players,

1704
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,960
With growing institutional concern about Hudson's influence, even reportedly calling

1705
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,000
her a runaway train. The conversation has shifted from strategy

1706
01:25:24,079 --> 01:25:26,600
to character. The question now isn't whether Belichick can win,

1707
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,920
but whether he still reflects the values a college program

1708
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:30,720
wants to protect.

1709
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:34,039
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

1710
01:25:34,079 --> 01:25:36,840
blah blah blah blah blah blah. Hey, look, all due

1711
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:41,279
respect to Ted Johnson, but you're there to win football games.

1712
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,600
It's not about leading young men anymore. They're all getting paid. Now,

1713
01:25:45,079 --> 01:25:47,600
go win football games. Hey, that would be That's a

1714
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,880
great pollyanna ish idea. You're supposed to lead you. Yeah.

1715
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,560
Bill McCartney was great at that at Colorado, he really was.

1716
01:25:54,079 --> 01:25:57,600
He was Christian guy held the head coach started promise keepers,

1717
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,439
and promise keepers eventually evaporated because they weren't charge people

1718
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,239
for the events and it went under. But the point is, though,

1719
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,960
that's not a fireable offense. No, that's not a fireable offense.

1720
01:26:07,239 --> 01:26:10,199
Speak Now, Kevin could be right about Belichick's starting to

1721
01:26:10,199 --> 01:26:12,600
lose his marbles a little bit. I mean, this girl's

1722
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,199
a third his age. She's running the show. She reminds

1723
01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:18,079
me of the chick from Yellowstone Sarah Atwood she's nuts.

1724
01:26:18,359 --> 01:26:20,479
So here she's kind of like a high priced young

1725
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,159
here's I shouldn't say what I'm gonna say, but she's horror.

1726
01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:27,439
Well she kind of comes off that way, doesn't she.

1727
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,880
I don't get horror, not horre, not horror. But some

1728
01:26:31,119 --> 01:26:33,199
is the thing a high like a high priced like.

1729
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:38,520
Speaker 2: Well look anles, Yes, high price escort would be a

1730
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,920
great answer. You're right, but Anna Nicole Smith was one

1731
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,600
who went after an old, old old guy, right, yeah,

1732
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,760
and then she Howard Marshall. Now we've got this. But

1733
01:26:49,159 --> 01:26:52,560
for some reason I don't I don't know why. Belichick

1734
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,319
seems too with it for me, and it's hard to

1735
01:26:55,319 --> 01:26:58,279
look at him and go, he's seventy three. Yeah, he

1736
01:26:58,399 --> 01:27:00,399
just doesn't look it that way. And when I see

1737
01:27:00,399 --> 01:27:02,920
them together, I guess you could go, I mean this

1738
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,760
could be you know, grandfather, granddaughter.

1739
01:27:06,039 --> 01:27:08,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, right at.

1740
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 4: Yes, but it's like she's going to his doctor's appointments

1741
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,880
to take notes, but instead she's micromanaging his entire life.

1742
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,239
Speaker 2: Okay, right now, but this isn't so people have said, well,

1743
01:27:19,239 --> 01:27:22,279
why would CBS leave that in there? It's an awkward moment.

1744
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,079
Speaker 3: That's the point.

1745
01:27:23,199 --> 01:27:26,239
Speaker 2: Well, that's the point. Well, here's the other thing. It

1746
01:27:26,279 --> 01:27:29,039
was a forty minute interview they edited down to eight.

1747
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,640
Apparently there were several moments like this, including one where

1748
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:34,279
she got up.

1749
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 3: And walked walked out for twenty minutes.

1750
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't wave, I don't and Bill and was

1751
01:27:39,399 --> 01:27:43,079
upset that Bill didn't come back. So I I'm like going,

1752
01:27:45,359 --> 01:27:46,680
And I just think like.

1753
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,079
Speaker 3: She knows who he is. He knows who she is.

1754
01:27:50,279 --> 01:27:52,239
I mean, like your Belichick, you're seventy three and you

1755
01:27:52,279 --> 01:27:54,039
got a chance of something like that. I mean, we

1756
01:27:54,079 --> 01:27:56,960
have buddies who are like, yeah, buddy, I know, but

1757
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,279
I don't think I could. We don't know until we're

1758
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:01,439
in that situation though exactly. We never I mean, I

1759
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,279
mean there were situations that I said, oh, I would

1760
01:28:03,279 --> 01:28:05,960
never do that, Oh whoops I did, or good things

1761
01:28:06,079 --> 01:28:07,520
that I'm like, I would never do that. Oh I

1762
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:08,760
tried that. Wow that was amazing.

1763
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1764
01:28:09,319 --> 01:28:14,039
Speaker 3: Now I love figs year old. Yeah. I mean, in

1765
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,880
Belichick's case, she's beautiful, she's gorgeous, and she's with it

1766
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,640
and she makes me feel young, okay, great, and she

1767
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,840
knows who he is. I mean, and he's got money,

1768
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,359
he's got prestige, and she knows she could elevate herself

1769
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,520
no matter what happens. Let's get here's a great example,

1770
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,359
and it's like two people were in the same age.

1771
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,239
Britney Williams has made a career of being Josh Allen's

1772
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:36,279
once girlfriend.

1773
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what has she done?

1774
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 3: No, she's just hot and she's on Instagram way hotter. Yeah,

1775
01:28:43,039 --> 01:28:44,760
she dated a pro quarterback and so now all of

1776
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,319
a sudden, like I'm on the market.

1777
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,159
Speaker 2: She got to the point she went to me, she

1778
01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:51,520
went around, she like did a full shirt like she

1779
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,479
was sore. Hot. Now I see her. It's like this.

1780
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,159
Speaker 3: There's another woman from Fox. She used to be have

1781
01:28:56,199 --> 01:28:58,720
Fox Sports one. She was on Cowhurt show, Christine Lahy, right,

1782
01:28:59,079 --> 01:29:01,439
and she was kind of okay, and she was also

1783
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:05,039
on America Ninja Warrior or whatever, and she was kind

1784
01:29:05,039 --> 01:29:07,640
of just there to give the news at the bottom.

1785
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,760
But she was good looking and she would date a

1786
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,279
certain type of guy and she let everybody know. All

1787
01:29:12,279 --> 01:29:14,680
of a sudden, she starts dating this short agent.

1788
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:15,079
Speaker 2: Dude.

1789
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:17,239
Speaker 3: Why is she like this guy married him? Oh, he's

1790
01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:20,760
a billionaire and he happens to be this CEO of Airtable.

1791
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:21,680
You mean it, tell me?

1792
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,560
Speaker 2: Based on your checker tell me that she's in love

1793
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,600
with him. Maybe a little bit, bro, I'm telling you man,

1794
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,680
he treated her the way she wanted.

1795
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 3: There's a phrase that they used at the draft talent

1796
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:35,159
over everything to talent over and whatever that talent is,

1797
01:29:35,159 --> 01:29:37,560
if it's money or if it's lux man, whatever, the

1798
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,760
highest thing on the chain is if you can reach

1799
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,920
out and grab it, guess what you're gonna do it?

1800
01:29:42,119 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 2: Uh huh? What's the talent? Do you think, Laura?

1801
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: Did you look up Britney Williams?

1802
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1803
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she means a lot of work.

1804
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,560
Speaker 4: She's very very injected.

1805
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, a lot of work botox, That's what I'm saying.

1806
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,920
I find someone I find that unattractive, Yeah, a little

1807
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:04,600
more on natural, Like.

1808
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,079
Speaker 3: She's gonna be one of those people where like you

1809
01:30:06,079 --> 01:30:08,399
see those videos in thirty years of somebody who's like

1810
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,199
face looks kind of deformed because of all the so much.

1811
01:30:11,279 --> 01:30:13,159
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but then you got to go to the

1812
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:16,800
same doctor that Demi Moore went to and she looks fantastic.

1813
01:30:17,079 --> 01:30:20,159
Speaker 4: But like you think about the amount of filler and

1814
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,119
even seeing people who are in shape now, you don't

1815
01:30:23,119 --> 01:30:26,359
know if they actually try or if it's all fucking ozempic.

1816
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:29,119
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's we're going to find out in

1817
01:30:29,159 --> 01:30:31,640
the next five years what ozempic's.

1818
01:30:31,039 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 2: Really going to do to people. I need ozempic.

1819
01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 3: No, you don't drop like you don't know, you don't

1820
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:37,920
just eat less.

1821
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like it's not.

1822
01:30:42,039 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 3: About now, I know, especially when you're when you're metabolic

1823
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,840
age is sixty like mine, you gotta work harder.

1824
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,079
Speaker 4: She's pretty, but this is a lot of Yeah, I

1825
01:30:50,079 --> 01:30:53,760
don't find herrat of it's just a lot.

1826
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I have.

1827
01:30:56,359 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 4: There's seeing pictures of her earlier on and she's not

1828
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,239
as fake love, No, she's not.

1829
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 2: And she was a little heavier yeah, yeah, yeah, she's Wyoming,

1830
01:31:07,159 --> 01:31:10,119
she was California. She's northern California. Yeah right, she's a

1831
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:10,600
farm girl.

1832
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 3: So I mean in Belichick's should he get fired? No, no, no,

1833
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,000
I don't see this trade wreck play itself out, man,

1834
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:19,119
I gotta say. And and by the way, if this

1835
01:31:19,319 --> 01:31:23,560
UC football hasn't gotten this much attention, dude, like UC

1836
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,640
is a basketball school. The only thing UNC football is

1837
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:30,680
known for really, Forget mich Trubisky, Lawrence Taylor, that's it,

1838
01:31:31,279 --> 01:31:31,960
that's it.

1839
01:31:32,079 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 2: I mean, people are going on we see in the

1840
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,439
unraveling of a football genius who stayed too long and

1841
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:38,119
that sort of thing.

1842
01:31:38,119 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 3: And I the old phrases you live long enough to

1843
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,319
become the either die you die the hero, or you

1844
01:31:43,359 --> 01:31:45,840
live long enough to become the villain. Belichick became the

1845
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,319
villain a long, long time ago. At this point, he's

1846
01:31:48,359 --> 01:31:49,279
playing with house money.

1847
01:31:49,319 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: But it is weird, like it doesn't seem to fit

1848
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,359
his personality type that we know of to let somebody

1849
01:31:56,359 --> 01:31:58,920
else control situations.

1850
01:31:58,359 --> 01:32:02,039
Speaker 3: Unless he's so like, do you know, unless you know,

1851
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:05,039
unless he's been so controlling for so long that this

1852
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:09,479
is his way of now like going the opposite direction psychologically.

1853
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 2: Speaky, But have you well now, I've known women who

1854
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,640
were like owners of companies and did things and they

1855
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,600
would say, you know, small businesses stuff, But they would say,

1856
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:19,760
I want a man to take control because I'm in

1857
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,840
control all week. I want to I want to be

1858
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,159
taken care of now. Maybe so to your point, maybe

1859
01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:26,920
that's part of the Belichick thing. Could be.

1860
01:32:27,159 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 4: Also, they haven't even been together all that long.

1861
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:30,399
Speaker 2: Three years.

1862
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,079
Speaker 3: I think they started what she was twenty.

1863
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 4: One, Bill Belichick and Jordan Yeah.

1864
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:36,520
Speaker 2: I think three years.

1865
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,039
Speaker 3: Rome calls or Jordan twenty four or Hudson twenty fourth.

1866
01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:43,319
Speaker 2: I think so, I really do. But Laura, have you

1867
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:47,920
seen any of your girlfriends like that controlling of their

1868
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,560
guy and thought, oh, I feel bad for him? Or

1869
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:53,239
would you ever say anything if that was a friend

1870
01:32:53,279 --> 01:32:55,680
of yours, Like, why would you do that? This is

1871
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,439
your show? Yeah, it's not about you. He wrote a

1872
01:32:58,439 --> 01:32:59,720
book called The Art of Winning.

1873
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1874
01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:04,199
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I've personally seen it, but not

1875
01:33:04,319 --> 01:33:06,560
with any of my friends. But I have seen it

1876
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,880
with some people. And it's just like women are pure

1877
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,520
bitches and the men have their tail between their legs practically, but.

1878
01:33:14,279 --> 01:33:17,279
Speaker 3: Those Yeah, yeah, I've had women, let's put this on.

1879
01:33:17,359 --> 01:33:19,520
I've had women in my life who have told me,

1880
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:24,159
including our old friend Sally Carpenter Danny, run run. You've

1881
01:33:24,159 --> 01:33:25,720
also told me to run, but that was different women.

1882
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,239
This is like like when women tell you to run, run, yeah,

1883
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:35,239
get out go. I already frame any comments whatsoever. And

1884
01:33:35,319 --> 01:33:38,560
other women in my life tell me run at certain points, run.

1885
01:33:40,119 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: Run to walk. Yeah, all right, Well, I think Belichick

1886
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,800
will be fine. It is. It just was interesting and

1887
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,720
I love knowing. Where did you hear this story about

1888
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,479
the rest of the interview where she had walked out

1889
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:53,359
for twenty minutes.

1890
01:33:53,359 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 3: Was on the Athletic Okay, yeah.

1891
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:59,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's pretty. No, it's not a good look.

1892
01:33:59,319 --> 01:34:02,079
Speaker 3: No, it's got to be uncomfortable. And she released a statement.

1893
01:34:02,359 --> 01:34:04,159
She wrote a statement and put it on Instagram or

1894
01:34:04,199 --> 01:34:07,720
something like that about the situation. I don't know. I mean,

1895
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,399
like it gets silly. I mean she's ad practice in

1896
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,439
the high heels and dresses on a grass field. Are

1897
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,640
you kidding me? Yeah? It looks awkward and cringe. But man,

1898
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,039
if you hate Belichick, man get your popular ready.

1899
01:34:20,279 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 4: Some things are saying they've been together for one year.

1900
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,159
Some things are saying they've been together for two years.

1901
01:34:25,279 --> 01:34:26,359
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, three years.

1902
01:34:26,359 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 4: Okay, But the point is it's not a They met

1903
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,479
in February twenty twenty wine.

1904
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, three years.

1905
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 3: They stayed in I get your number.

1906
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 4: He was in a relationship with Linda.

1907
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,359
Speaker 3: Holliday, very attractive, older one.

1908
01:34:40,319 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 4: Until twenty twenty three.

1909
01:34:42,279 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then but then they had video. Remember

1910
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:47,760
the video that came out of him Bill.

1911
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,560
Speaker 4: That was just last summer though, was it just last summer?

1912
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the roast came out. So the roast came

1913
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,239
out when did the Brady cut, By the way, that

1914
01:34:56,279 --> 01:34:59,800
was hysterical. Rati roast was when the Brady roast came out,

1915
01:35:00,119 --> 01:35:04,800
Rock broke Belichick's balls about yes, talks for a high

1916
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,279
school if you scout your old girlfriend up, coach your

1917
01:35:07,319 --> 01:35:09,479
k new girlfriend, and then nobody really like we thought

1918
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,760
he was just joking about like they like young girls,

1919
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,680
and then all of a sudden we find out, oh,

1920
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,279
a week later he has a young girlfriend. Okay, so

1921
01:35:16,399 --> 01:35:19,560
he so he kept that pretty quiet. Yeah for a while.

1922
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,079
But the thing where she said, we're not going to

1923
01:35:21,159 --> 01:35:24,239
discuss that about how they met, well, okay, two things.

1924
01:35:24,239 --> 01:35:27,000
One was she a high priced escort who decided to

1925
01:35:27,039 --> 01:35:30,199
continue a relationship because he's Bill Belichick, so you're continuous work.

1926
01:35:30,399 --> 01:35:32,840
Or two she was messing around with him while he

1927
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:33,840
was with the other woman.

1928
01:35:34,119 --> 01:35:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1929
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:38,399
Speaker 4: Wait, the roast of Tom Brady was last year May fifth.

1930
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:42,359
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so this didn't come out until late May

1931
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:43,239
early June.

1932
01:35:43,319 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 2: About this one, we really knew about a year ago. Yeah, wow,

1933
01:35:48,079 --> 01:35:48,920
look at this.

1934
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,520
Speaker 3: Wow, it's also a year ago. I think a year

1935
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,600
ago today, I had posted.

1936
01:35:53,239 --> 01:35:59,159
Speaker 2: Something about Santa Doorley and her driveway, and I remember that.

1937
01:35:59,399 --> 01:36:01,079
Speaker 3: I think you and I the only ones who defended her.

1938
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 2: I know it. Oh, I got a ton of ship

1939
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:05,640
for it. But that's all right.

1940
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,119
Speaker 3: Bought some good will in the deal, a.

1941
01:36:08,039 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 4: Lot of ship on the podcast for things. Huh, you

1942
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:11,199
get a lot of ship.

1943
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 3: Yes, it's also happened. You put your name on stuff.

1944
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,920
When you talk about the truthbody wants. Nobody wants to

1945
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,319
hear the truth. Wants to hear Nobody wants to hear

1946
01:36:19,359 --> 01:36:25,439
the truth. Jesus Christ. But I know you don't know

1947
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:30,640
what you're even more had to do with the story

1948
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:35,920
that she told them, Okay, but uh true, Yes, it's truth.

1949
01:36:36,319 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 2: I just said that like this kind of I thought

1950
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:43,520
that whole thing got overblown and she shouldn't have acted

1951
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,039
that way. But you know, she shouldn't have She should

1952
01:36:47,079 --> 01:36:50,840
never have acted that way. However, Mike, what's the big

1953
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:51,640
who gets.

1954
01:36:52,079 --> 01:36:54,159
Speaker 4: If there's the cop, If a cop is trying to

1955
01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:55,399
pull you over, you pull over.

1956
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she had called a head and she did

1957
01:36:58,319 --> 01:37:00,680
the thing, and she wanted to get home, and I

1958
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:01,119
have noise.

1959
01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:02,359
Speaker 4: Everyone wants to get home.

1960
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:03,279
Speaker 3: I understand.

1961
01:37:03,319 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying that, but I just go in

1962
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,520
the big picture of things again, almost like the nurse

1963
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,319
when we can't find nurses who you know, we're gonna

1964
01:37:11,319 --> 01:37:13,560
take away your medical license because you make poor judgment,

1965
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,079
you know, I mean who knows? And yet you could

1966
01:37:16,079 --> 01:37:20,039
be the best nurse nurse Ratchet, I don't know. Uh.

1967
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 3: Now, the thing is, if you commit that type of

1968
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,800
that type of crime, then you should fit. You should

1969
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,640
be punished for the crime. Okay, but you don't lose

1970
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,600
the knowledge of being a nurse. So somebody wants to

1971
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:34,800
hire you for being a nurse, they should be able

1972
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,960
to be a nurse. The license is irrelevant to the situation, okay,

1973
01:37:39,079 --> 01:37:40,399
Like for example, I mean, I.

1974
01:37:40,399 --> 01:37:42,319
Speaker 2: Mean they're looking at a lot of things all day long.

1975
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 3: Laura, I'm thinking.

1976
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,279
Speaker 4: She's going to start her own only fans. Oh yeah,

1977
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,039
nurse put on the gloves.

1978
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:53,159
Speaker 2: Well, you should really consult her on this stuff, all right,

1979
01:37:53,239 --> 01:37:56,680
Danny before we run out of time. The uh the

1980
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,680
Bills Draft? Yes, thoughts on the Bills Draft? You do?

1981
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 3: You like it? And I like it?

1982
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:03,159
Speaker 2: All defensive heavy and.

1983
01:38:03,279 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 3: I thought it was very defensive defense heavy. I let's

1984
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:11,039
put it this way. I have no opinion on the draft.

1985
01:38:11,079 --> 01:38:14,960
Since Alan succeeded after that, I don't think anybody should either. Okay,

1986
01:38:15,039 --> 01:38:16,800
I'm wise enough to say that. I can't speak for

1987
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,319
other people. But if you like the Bills, draft great.

1988
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,520
But the Bills have had a track record of drafting

1989
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,640
a lot of defensive guys, and they've had a solid defense,

1990
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,279
but they've never closed. And the thing is, and I

1991
01:38:26,319 --> 01:38:28,079
know a radio station got in trouble and Brandon Bean

1992
01:38:28,119 --> 01:38:30,840
when the general manager went after them for all this stuff.

1993
01:38:31,279 --> 01:38:33,199
And while as much as I would love for the

1994
01:38:33,239 --> 01:38:36,159
GM to go after those guys, they had a point

1995
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,920
and Brandon Bee didn't really look very good. All these

1996
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:43,279
Bills payers are saying, oh man, he gave it to him. Yeah,

1997
01:38:43,279 --> 01:38:45,319
but did you listen to what he said. He talked

1998
01:38:45,319 --> 01:38:48,279
in platitudes, he talked in football speak, and he really

1999
01:38:48,279 --> 01:38:52,600
didn't justify what he was doing. Because at the end

2000
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,720
of the day, Josh Allen needs another hero and it

2001
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:00,399
can't just be Josh. And who is that guy? We

2002
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,119
still don't know. Yeah, and if they don't get to

2003
01:39:03,159 --> 01:39:05,239
the Super Bowl and win it this year, now you

2004
01:39:05,239 --> 01:39:08,359
gotta look at mc bean meaning McDermott and Brandon Bean

2005
01:39:08,359 --> 01:39:11,039
and go, you got one year left, bro, figure it out,

2006
01:39:11,079 --> 01:39:15,319
or we're gonna bring in somebody else period period. Because

2007
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:19,920
Bean's drafts, if there are, his drafts have mostly been mediocre.

2008
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:23,399
He's had a few fins, like he's gotten a few guys.

2009
01:39:23,399 --> 01:39:25,960
A close secure was a nice fine. Tararon Johnson was

2010
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:27,760
a nice fin. Christian Bedford was a nice fight. Those

2011
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,560
are all mid round guys here, Okay, And it's cool.

2012
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,039
You want to go defense, that's fine, But I mean,

2013
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,880
you can't meet You can't tell me that the best

2014
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,840
player on your board every time your turn came to

2015
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:42,039
pick was a defensive player every single time, no matter

2016
01:39:42,079 --> 01:39:45,920
what I think, that's insane. I think Sean mcderbott is

2017
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:47,960
a defensive coach and he wanted defensive guys, and that's

2018
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,520
what we did. The funny thing is, though, is that

2019
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,319
they had to keep drafting more defensive guys because all

2020
01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:54,520
the defensive guys they've drafted can't do the job in

2021
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,479
the biggest moments of the year. We're gonna fix the defense. Well,

2022
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:01,520
you've been doing that since you've been here. That was

2023
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,159
their point. That was the point in Brandon being goes,

2024
01:40:04,199 --> 01:40:06,720
this is a fantasy football. There's only one football. That's

2025
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:09,880
coach speak. That's garbage. And by the way, the fact

2026
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,840
that you went off on a radio show shows how

2027
01:40:13,319 --> 01:40:16,199
fricking weak you are. I really though I like the

2028
01:40:16,199 --> 01:40:17,800
fact that he did it, But then I listened to

2029
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,079
what he said again, and then he goes on McAfee

2030
01:40:20,119 --> 01:40:22,119
and goes, you can't have Pro bowlers in every position.

2031
01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:23,800
Oh wait a minute, you don't have any Pro bowlers.

2032
01:40:24,039 --> 01:40:29,319
You have Alan? Yeah, and who else? Oh, you're running

2033
01:40:29,319 --> 01:40:31,119
back who wants fifty million dollars that you don't want

2034
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:34,239
to pay. If you drafted Pro bowlers, guys who became

2035
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:37,319
Pro bowlers, then maybe you maybe people would have faith.

2036
01:40:37,359 --> 01:40:39,199
But you haven't done that. You had to go trade

2037
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:40,920
for a wide receiver last year who's no longer on

2038
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,960
the team. You drafted a wide receiver who you criticized.

2039
01:40:44,039 --> 01:40:46,680
You drafted a tight end traded up for who you criticized.

2040
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,880
So now every single you're setting off the fairport. We

2041
01:40:52,039 --> 01:40:55,159
understand how he contradicted himself in that moment. Then he

2042
01:40:55,199 --> 01:40:57,880
goes on McAfee and does the same thing. I just

2043
01:40:57,880 --> 01:40:59,720
think that, And then he blames his quarterback and says, well,

2044
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:01,720
Josh Sound's making too much money. So that's why you

2045
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,039
draft wide receivers, That's why you draft other guys. But

2046
01:41:05,079 --> 01:41:06,640
you didn't do that. You let your head coach do

2047
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,640
the grocery shopping, and then you got the you got

2048
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,720
the credit for it, and when people went after you

2049
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,239
for it, you showed that you're too sensitive to understand that.

2050
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,319
Speaker 2: I think that it looks like it's a really shot

2051
01:41:16,359 --> 01:41:20,640
clocks on. I think it's a really hard job trying

2052
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,319
to pick these guys. It is, you know, it just

2053
01:41:23,399 --> 01:41:23,720
is right.

2054
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 3: But if you believe in what you're doing, yeah to

2055
01:41:26,039 --> 01:41:27,479
radio guys shouldn't get under your skin.

2056
01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:31,399
Speaker 2: No, but I think you hear a lot of stuff.

2057
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,640
I think I wonder if he was pushed to do

2058
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,600
that too. I don't know, I have no idea.

2059
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 3: Well, he's been waiting for six years to pull the

2060
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:39,760
Josh Allen card. By the way, we all deserve that

2061
01:41:40,039 --> 01:41:42,279
his ninety percent of us were wrong about Josh Allen, which,

2062
01:41:42,279 --> 01:41:44,720
by the way, that radio station built the campaign beat

2063
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,319
the drum up, don't draft Josh Allen. So he I'm

2064
01:41:47,319 --> 01:41:48,880
glad he got that shot in there. He was right

2065
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:49,319
about that.

2066
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 2: But the rest of it just looks so hard. I mean,

2067
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:56,479
they're doing such research. They are guys, I mean they are.

2068
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 3: But they all have their biases.

2069
01:41:58,159 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 2: Sure, so what it does.

2070
01:42:00,079 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I've had a theory. Greg disagrees. Greg

2071
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,479
Connor's disagrees, But I have a theory, and the theory

2072
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,159
is that Sean mcdermot's. The theory is that Sean mcdermot's

2073
01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:11,319
the guy doing the drafting, not Brandon Bean. Brandon Bean

2074
01:42:11,319 --> 01:42:14,239
gets the credit, Brandon Bean's a general manager, but it's

2075
01:42:14,239 --> 01:42:19,680
Sean McDermott doing doing the shop. And I I I

2076
01:42:20,159 --> 01:42:22,000
think that's the case. And when you let your head

2077
01:42:22,039 --> 01:42:23,760
coach do it, what's he gonna do. He's gonna go

2078
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:26,520
with his strength. What's that defense? Okay, well, why doesn't

2079
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,640
your defense perform better? And cutch clutch situations? Where's your

2080
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:34,560
stat where's your strategy? Yeah? It works in the regular season. Yeah,

2081
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,359
that's great. Well, I want to win THENFC Championship and

2082
01:42:37,399 --> 01:42:39,319
go to the Super Bowl. You're go for two in

2083
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that department and you're O for six in your last

2084
01:42:41,239 --> 01:42:47,880
six playoff finalees AG. So yeah, this is a report card.

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You know what?

2086
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Speaker 2: You're all for six of this biology class.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen one A. Josh Allen's career is gonna

2088
01:42:56,319 --> 01:42:58,439
end like Dan Fouts if they can't win a super Bowl,

2089
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if they can get to a Super Bowl. He's oh yeah.

2090
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Here's the other thing about a second he compared he could.

2091
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He talked about Tom Brady and the Patriot Tom Brady

2092
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never had like a star receiver. Oh he didn't. He didn't.

2093
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He did have Randy Moss, he did Rus Walker, he

2094
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,039
didn't have Kronk. He didn't have Aaron for Aaron Dernanda's

2095
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when he wasn't killing people. Oh and by the way,

2096
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,319
David Gibbons and Dion Branch weren't exactly slouches. Oh by

2097
01:43:22,359 --> 01:43:25,520
the way, Peyton Manning needed stud receivers too, either. He

2098
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,239
couldn't beat the Patriots without stud receivers. And you're gonna

2099
01:43:28,239 --> 01:43:30,680
compare your team that what Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did.

2100
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Are you freaking kidding me?

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01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:32,159
Speaker 4: Right now?

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Speaker 3: I think?

2103
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 2: What give me out?

2104
01:43:37,319 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 3: And there's a lot You are not Bill Belichick until

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you win a Super Bowl or twenty four year old

2106
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,640
six of them or d twenty four year old.

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Speaker 2: The All right, I gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 3: Anything more, though, it is funny to see that other

2109
01:43:57,119 --> 01:44:01,520
radio station eat a little Oh it's fine, uh, Laura.

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Speaker 2: Great performance as the stepmom telling us of the stepmom.

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The next week event is Laura's big birthday coming up

2112
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in like a week, No, two weeks, three weeks. Oh yeah,

2113
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we're not gonna make yeah yeah for Dan Burrillo. Tough

2114
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week and it's gonna be in the role of support,

2115
01:44:24,119 --> 01:44:28,399
which is never easy. And UH has deep thoughts, deep

2116
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:30,479
thoughts of the bills letting it out.

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01:44:31,159 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 3: You cannot call yourself. Definitely rays and Randy now Kevin

2118
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:43,000
with Kevin's mom died. That was the weirdest. I think

2119
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you got some you know, I like hearing it. I

2120
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gotta go because the Buffalo Bills, there's only one gotta trust.

2121
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:51,159
Who's that? That's me.

2122
01:44:53,239 --> 01:44:55,039
Speaker 2: I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you.

2123
01:44:54,920 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, tomorrow or girl, girl.

2124
01:45:03,319 --> 01:45:04,359
Speaker 2: Can see Bridger.

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01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 3: Oh they brushing in my tongue. You were seeing serials

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doing five to three h