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Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in one of

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the voice shoes. One of the faces of b y

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How that g are you man?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, see hugs, Let's go Super Bowl Champs.

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Speaker 3: I forget your Sea high span as a from an

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entertainment standpoint, and I know you know from NF I

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know where you stand from a fanaticism standpoint, but from

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an entertainment standpoint, what would you create the Super Bowl

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in twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a s X fan, so it was an

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A plus. It was off the charts. It was elite football, honestly,

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especially on defense and special teams. So it just continues

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to show that. And by went this way this last year, right, Hey,

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liking it unto us? Get in there and make it

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about you. Yes, hey, if you can play defense and

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run the football, that's winning football. Like spreading the field,

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speed stuff, tempo, deep throat. Yes, you should mix in explosives.

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You need explosive, But what we saw from the Seahawks

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is winning football. And BYU won twelve games last year

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because they had a great defense and a great run game.

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And that's where it's at. Tim Darnold didn't have to

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do Jack squat yesterday. And you know, if you can

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make it where Bear doesn't have to do a ton

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of LJ carries a big load and the run game

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and the defense does that thing. Now we're talking about

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maybe you always back in Arlington kind of kind of bobs.

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That's what I took away from it. But I understand

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if people didn't enjoy it because it was never actually

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that close, you know, but it was just nice. I

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think America wanted to see the Patriots lose, you know.

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Speaker 3: Did they Is that what they want?

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Speaker 1: Is that what America wants? The Niners fans are like, no,

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Seahawks need to lose, because it was great to beat

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not only the Patriots, but do it on the Niners

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field like that is can you imagine by you like,

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winning a title on Utah's field. That's what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Pretty impressive. Indeed, I thought it was entertaining. It was

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born to some I'm a defensive guy. I like to

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see pitchers duels, you know. I like to see defensive execution,

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the physicality and the trenches, the trench warfare. I thought

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it was. It was a great game. And look, let's

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be honest, though, the true super Bowl was the Seahawks

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versus the Rams, right, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: Winner was gonna win that like if yeah, if the

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Rams had gone, Pokinako would be celebrating having a ring

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this morning. For sure.

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Speaker 3: You feel for Tyrus though I thought Kiris had a

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tremendous season. He's in your five. I believe of his

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NFL career and and man, he's lean and explosive and

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definitely a high contributor right now for one of the

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best defenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Is he lean? I think I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you, dude, he's he's leaner, like he

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has good weight on him. He is like the Tiris

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that you knew, you know what I'm telling you. Like,

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he's different. He's built different now, he's got more bend

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in the hips, he's more explosive. He's not just a

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big body anymore. He's he's explosives now.

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Speaker 1: That's great and and probably it has to be if

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they're gonna put him in a fullback. I don't think

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they did in a single time yesterday, right I was

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looking forward to him being the fridge, maybe getting like

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a carry there near the goal line at b Why

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he did that against Idaho States. As we recall, we

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had clients taking on the show last week and we

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brought up this idea and he said, he's more like

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the freezer. And we were hoping that he would get

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a carry in the super Bowl, but the Seahawks are like, Nope,

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if you're gonna score, you can do it. From whalet there.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, congratulations to uh everybody that got to participate

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in the Super Bowl. We always like to see cougar's

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in the pros in those Super Bowl games. And in

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the modern era, right Kansas City has been dominated. Is

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the Andy Reid dominants? Is it? Is it dwindling? Is

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it falling away? Or We're not going to see Andy

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in the super Bowl in the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: I mean probably not because Pat Mahomes come back, comes

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back next year and he got it what mid to

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late part of the year, Like he's not gonna be

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a hundred hundred percent per say, like it. It could

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be difficult, you know. Is Travis Kelsey gonna retire? Is

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he gonna come back? He's a little older, like you

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got a new OC and whatnot. So what's what's gonna

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happen there? I don't know. Andy the great coach though,

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like at some at some point Andy built off of

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what he learned from LaBelle and became a better coach

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than level, which is incredible, right at the highest level,

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which is what you want, like you want to, uh,

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you know, have your children have a better life than you,

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Like Lavell helped make a bunch of coaches that have

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done great things and a bunch of guys just thinking

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about the NFL perspective, Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid,

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and so on and so forth. So it's fun to

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see those guys succeed at the next next level. It's

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very cool. It's it's part of Lavell's legacy is that

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Andy Reid has been who he's been.

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Speaker 3: Love that JJ. One of the things we've been discussing

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today is UH with A with a recency bias poll.

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These are my favorite because they've it's been so dominant.

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It's been kind of lopsided towards basketball over the last

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two years. But I'm asking the question, you know what,

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what are you more optimistic about right now? The future

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of BAU basketball for the fir see of a future

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or BAU football. Where do you stand? Which one are

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you more optimistic about?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That is a that is a great end. Listen, you

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and I are in the same business. We got content

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every day to put out. You know, is has the

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longest losing streak in three years? Of that question? Of course,

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it's it's kicking them while they're down. No, I get it. Though, Look, football,

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it's hard not to be excited about football with everybody

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that returns, and we don't know what they're gonna do

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next year. If you ask this in the middle of

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a three game losing streak in Big till play next

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year for football, if they had that, like, yeah, that's

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easy to say, Well, basketball, maybe it's hard. It's hard

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right now too, because the thing with men's basketball is

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they don't have a lot of different cards they can

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play that aren't currently in the hand. Like last year

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it was okay, they have a deep bench, they have

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down a poost there you can always mix match that

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you're starting with witmag over cannon catchings. That everything changes

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what's boy men's basketball is supposed to do. They don't

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have a card to play. They're the only card they

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could really play is starting Boop over Canard Davis. But

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then do you lose Canard completely? Like right now is

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not shooting great from three outside of the second alfriganst Arizona,

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he's been abysmal. And then By's defense. It felt better

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against Houston than Oklahoma State, but honestly, it wasn't that

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much better. It was one point three points per possession.

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that's good. It was one point three. It was way

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too high. You're gonna lose ninety nine percent of those games.

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So was it better? Well, sure, but it wasn't good.

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It was still bad. I would argue Good had better effort.

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They were getting after it, but they got to reband more.

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They got to make more free throws, they got to

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make more bunnies. You gotta have Richie and Knard not

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combined for two thirteen from three. You know, you need

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a little more from Rob and the assist game. But

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guys have to make shots. Like AJ continues to do

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his thing. I don't think we can ask much more

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He wants to take good shots. So long answer to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about this blau basketball team that

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you'd like to see maybe improved upon? If you're gonna

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critique and look, we're this is this is a great

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basketball team and we're.

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Speaker 1: Nitpicking they're good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I think that that they've showed that they

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can be elite and they can be great. They've had

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some undulations, they've had some downs, especially in the first half.

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What's your biggest complaint regarding this bo basketball team?

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Speaker 1: Defense? Defense needs to be better. I mean they're coming

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off of back to that game and in this losing streak,

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they've got it that. Yeah, Kevin Young was He's the

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one that said it. We didn't even have to say it,

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he called. He used these words last week in reference

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to his defense, abysmal, pathetic, a joke his words describing

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his own defense, saying, hey, we got to be better.

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guy goes one on one straight line drive to the basket,

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that's his effort, like you gotta you gotta defend. And

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the into you know, they're in a two seed spot,

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probably a very good team still, and granted this four

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game losing streak, Ben it's all quad ones. Oklahoma State

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was a bad loss relatively speaking, but to them because

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of the standard we have, but not to the committee.

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and they move on. You know, Oklahoma Baylor is a

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barelely Colorado coming up, and then it's like, all right,

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We just have a high standard.

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Speaker 2: For this group.

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Speaker 3: The expectations in life determine our happiness, and the expectations

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are very high. The bar has been set very high,

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and they haven't met that expectation thus far this season.

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forgiven if they would have just beat Houston over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I think so, because then you would have had a

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top ten net win. It's your best win of the season,

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it's your first Quad one A. You know, it's only

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what the third loss all year for Houston? I think

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so does it fix all your problems? No? But does

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it restore you into a place of confidence and sort

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of national relevance that you're seeking in trying to be

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a top four seed, because that's what, boy, you wanted

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in the offseason. They they scheduled to be a top

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four seed, Like they looked at Arizona and said, why

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are you a four and we're a six and we

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have the same record in league. It's because of non

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conference and so BYU an ounce scheduled better, which, by

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the way, you know several of those wins continue to

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be solid with Quad one B, but you have to

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get some Quad one A if you're going to be

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anything higher than a five, and luckily BYU has three

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of those left the final eight games however harder than

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the first ten games. The difference in average net is

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thirty spots. And the Big Twelve scheduled this way on purpose.

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They wanted February to be super compelling. Now the football

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is over, who kind of owns February? Typically it's college hoops,

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and then you know the NBA will get their time

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in the playoffs after March madnus. But this is this,

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this is the time for the Big twelve to shine.

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And let's see if YU can't seize that opportunity, because

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they have some great games coming up.

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Speaker 3: What makes you optimistic that BYU bask can pull off

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a late a February run like they did last season.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not convinced they can do what they did

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last year. That was unbelievable, and the Big twelve is

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better this year at the top. What I really want

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is five and three in the last eight. I think

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that would be tremendous because then you're ten and eight

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in league and then you you look like a four

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or five seed, and that's good. That's basically the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: People don't like the five to twelve because it's like

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a fifty to fifty proposition, but if you're the four

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or five, you play the other four or five in

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the second round, and then you probably played the one

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in this week sixteen, So it's not a huge difference.

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That's kind of my goal for this BOI team, get

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to the five line and if they happen to drop

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to the sixth. Historically, that's actually the sweet spot for

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BA age eighty one. Last year's team they were both

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six seeds. That's not the worst thing.

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Speaker 3: Speaking historically, I like it a little bit of optimism

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brewing at Brigham Young University. Jerem Jordan b what U

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Sports Nation here on your Utah ESPN Radio network talking

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some Brigham basketball, Brigham football storyline heading into springball. What

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are you looking at? What are you monitoring during camp

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Kolani twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Six, Yeah, RB two QB two the new defense and

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thinger running at. What are the differences there kado U

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Luave and what kind of difference he makes? You know,

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Raider DEMONI kind of being the full time other safety

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at strong with Fola tele at free, you know, backup corners.

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It's really a depth conversation like a lot of people,

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you know, Walker Lions, Roger Salipaga, how do they look

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kind of at tight ends? These new offensive linemen? What

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do they look like? A lot of times it's like,

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what did the new guys look like? What does the

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depth look like? I don't have questions about Bear. I

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want questions about LJ, who probably won't be involved. I

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assume coming back from the shoulder surgery, it's the only

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MOUP play.

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Speaker 3: How is he?

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Speaker 1: Is he going to be healthy again? Like what does

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that look like? So plenty of yeah, plenty of questions.

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Number one is probably the defense with k pop and

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anytime you get a new coordinator, that's probably it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For those that you've interacted with, what are what are

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the Cougar football faithful asking you about this Cougar defense,

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this Cougar football team, what's been like their main question

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mark surrounding the what you football? Would you say?

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the you know can be why you

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keep it going? Because Jay Hill's greatest strength was his memory,

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his recall, his ability to go okay in this down

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a distance of this part of the field. This is

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what reference points he has and he would have them memorized,

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like his recall was crazy. So that was his strength.

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So Kelly Pepinga what strength is he going to bring

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having been tutored by Bronco Menenhall and Cline Stacke and

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Jay Hill. The next thing is if you're like, it's

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all Kelly, I would argue, it's not all Kelly. It's

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it's Kelly's influences and mentors, but also Chad uh, you know,

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Chad on the staff and Garry Anderson and Kolonie. Like

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there's a lot of sort of backing there. It's it's

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like it's like a young men man in the ward.

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It's not just his dad who's the influence. It's his

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school teachers and his friends. It's young men's It's like, honestly,

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there's a lot of good influences around Kline or Kelly

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to where I'm confident that he'll be able to pick

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it up. Now what he sort of stamps as his

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own sort of flavor on this defense, that's TVD, but

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I'm excited to watch it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's talking about the defense, and most people feel like, hey,

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this last year, the year before, we were running a

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ton of forty front and now we're just going to

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revert back to a Bronco Mendenhial, a Bronco Mendenhile, Brockol

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Mennenhall style three four, What did you see? What have

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you discussed with maybe the coaching staff about what they

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were running the last couple of years and what K

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Pop's going to be running this year and maybe the

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seasons to come.

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Speaker 1: My sense is that they like what's been working there

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and then they'll probably kind of stick with a four three.

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But TVD, I mean they've recruited for a four to three.

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I don't see a blatant big change there. They could

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always do it, but it just that that's a big

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switch at this point, Like you kind of needed to

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probably do that a couple months ago if you're gonna

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do that, so I would be surprised if they switched that.

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But yeah, what if all of a sudden it's the

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three through five were like Bronco from New Mexico, What

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is this? Come on?

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Speaker 3: It'd be crazy. There's been crazier things that have happened

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in the past, though. Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen, Jerem,

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I always appreciate our time. Best way to support you

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what you do, how you do it for all of

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our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I always say it. Benmo At no, just can

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keep keep listening to Ben, keep listening to be a

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sports nation, keep consuming all the content. Just beat coognation,

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continue to do you. You're awesome. Let's get this going, baby,

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Let's keep.

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Speaker 3: It rolling and go high. Uh to two super Bowls

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in the last almost decade. You know, it's pretty healthy.

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It's pretty strong for the Hawks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, John Schneider, the GM winning with two different groups,

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pretty impressive, and without Sam Darnold with quarterback as Seahawks team,

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Zach Wilson, go be that next guy. That's Zach Wilson story.

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Speaker 3: Let's go New England with three titles since twenty ten,

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Kansas City with three titles, Seahawks with two, Philadelphia or two.

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And then you have a smattering of one winners one

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one season winner, Saints, Packers, Giants, Ravens, Broncos, Buccaneers, and Rams.

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Maybe the Rams step up next season to win their second.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'll probably not leave him out of this. No,

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no Rams Niners? Well then I want to question it's

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hard league.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask if he was okay with Jsing

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getting Offensive Player the Year in not Pooka. But I guess, oh, yeah, no,

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guess I guess.

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Speaker 1: That I actually wanted took him that because if it's individuals,

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I like to be a guys. But if it's team hey,

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it's sea.

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Speaker 3: Love it. Jeremy. Appreciate you man, Thanks dropping on Hey,

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Love you guys. Much love to Jerem Jordan. Ladies and

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gentlemen appreciate him hopping off for a little Cougar beat.

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