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the voice shoes. One of the faces of b y
U TV and Boy SportsNation. We got Jerem Jordan online JJ.
How that g are you man?
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, see hugs, Let's go Super Bowl Champs.
Speaker 3: I forget your Sea high span as a from an
entertainment standpoint, and I know you know from NF I
know where you stand from a fanaticism standpoint, but from
an entertainment standpoint, what would you create the Super Bowl
in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a s X fan, so it was an
A plus. It was off the charts. It was elite football, honestly,
especially on defense and special teams. So it just continues
to show that. And by went this way this last year, right, Hey,
liking it unto us? Get in there and make it
about you. Yes, hey, if you can play defense and
run the football, that's winning football. Like spreading the field,
speed stuff, tempo, deep throat. Yes, you should mix in explosives.
You need explosive, But what we saw from the Seahawks
is winning football. And BYU won twelve games last year
because they had a great defense and a great run game.
And that's where it's at. Tim Darnold didn't have to
do Jack squat yesterday. And you know, if you can
make it where Bear doesn't have to do a ton
of LJ carries a big load and the run game
and the defense does that thing. Now we're talking about
maybe you always back in Arlington kind of kind of bobs.
That's what I took away from it. But I understand
if people didn't enjoy it because it was never actually
that close, you know, but it was just nice. I
think America wanted to see the Patriots lose, you know.
Speaker 3: Did they Is that what they want?
Speaker 1: Is that what America wants? The Niners fans are like, no,
Seahawks need to lose, because it was great to beat
not only the Patriots, but do it on the Niners
field like that is can you imagine by you like,
winning a title on Utah's field. That's what happened yesterday.
Speaker 3: Pretty impressive. Indeed, I thought it was entertaining. It was
born to some I'm a defensive guy. I like to
see pitchers duels, you know. I like to see defensive execution,
the physicality and the trenches, the trench warfare. I thought
it was. It was a great game. And look, let's
be honest, though, the true super Bowl was the Seahawks
versus the Rams, right, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Winner was gonna win that like if yeah, if the
Rams had gone, Pokinako would be celebrating having a ring
this morning. For sure.
Speaker 3: You feel for Tyrus though I thought Kiris had a
tremendous season. He's in your five. I believe of his
NFL career and and man, he's lean and explosive and
definitely a high contributor right now for one of the
best defenses in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Is he lean? I think I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you, dude, he's he's leaner, like he
has good weight on him. He is like the Tiris
that you knew, you know what I'm telling you. Like,
he's different. He's built different now, he's got more bend
in the hips, he's more explosive. He's not just a
big body anymore. He's he's explosives now.
Speaker 1: That's great and and probably it has to be if
they're gonna put him in a fullback. I don't think
they did in a single time yesterday, right I was
looking forward to him being the fridge, maybe getting like
a carry there near the goal line at b Why
he did that against Idaho States. As we recall, we
had clients taking on the show last week and we
brought up this idea and he said, he's more like
the freezer. And we were hoping that he would get
a carry in the super Bowl, but the Seahawks are like, Nope,
if you're gonna score, you can do it. From whalet there.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, congratulations to uh everybody that got to participate
in the Super Bowl. We always like to see cougar's
in the pros in those Super Bowl games. And in
the modern era, right Kansas City has been dominated. Is
the Andy Reid dominants? Is it? Is it dwindling? Is
it falling away? Or We're not going to see Andy
in the super Bowl in the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: I mean probably not because Pat Mahomes come back, comes
back next year and he got it what mid to
late part of the year, Like he's not gonna be
a hundred hundred percent per say, like it. It could
be difficult, you know. Is Travis Kelsey gonna retire? Is
he gonna come back? He's a little older, like you
got a new OC and whatnot. So what's what's gonna
happen there? I don't know. Andy the great coach though,
like at some at some point Andy built off of
what he learned from LaBelle and became a better coach
than level, which is incredible, right at the highest level,
which is what you want, like you want to, uh,
you know, have your children have a better life than you,
Like Lavell helped make a bunch of coaches that have
done great things and a bunch of guys just thinking
about the NFL perspective, Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid,
and so on and so forth. So it's fun to
see those guys succeed at the next next level. It's
very cool. It's it's part of Lavell's legacy is that
Andy Reid has been who he's been.
Speaker 3: Love that JJ. One of the things we've been discussing
today is UH with A with a recency bias poll.
These are my favorite because they've it's been so dominant.
It's been kind of lopsided towards basketball over the last
two years. But I'm asking the question, you know what,
what are you more optimistic about right now? The future
of BAU basketball for the fir see of a future
or BAU football. Where do you stand? Which one are
you more optimistic about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That is a that is a great end. Listen, you
and I are in the same business. We got content
every day to put out. You know, is has the
longest losing streak in three years? Of that question? Of course,
it's it's kicking them while they're down. No, I get it. Though, Look, football,
it's hard not to be excited about football with everybody
that returns, and we don't know what they're gonna do
next year. If you ask this in the middle of
a three game losing streak in Big till play next
year for football, if they had that, like, yeah, that's
easy to say, Well, basketball, maybe it's hard. It's hard
right now too, because the thing with men's basketball is
they don't have a lot of different cards they can
play that aren't currently in the hand. Like last year
it was okay, they have a deep bench, they have
down a poost there you can always mix match that
you're starting with witmag over cannon catchings. That everything changes
what's boy men's basketball is supposed to do. They don't
have a card to play. They're the only card they
could really play is starting Boop over Canard Davis. But
then do you lose Canard completely? Like right now is
not shooting great from three outside of the second alfriganst Arizona,
he's been abysmal. And then By's defense. It felt better
against Houston than Oklahoma State, but honestly, it wasn't that
much better. It was one point three points per possession.
If you're if you're like at one point per possession defensively,
that's good. It was one point three. It was way
too high. You're gonna lose ninety nine percent of those games.
So was it better? Well, sure, but it wasn't good.
It was still bad. I would argue Good had better effort.
They were getting after it, but they got to reband more.
They got to make more free throws, they got to
make more bunnies. You gotta have Richie and Knard not
combined for two thirteen from three. You know, you need
a little more from Rob and the assist game. But
guys have to make shots. Like AJ continues to do
his thing. I don't think we can ask much more
of AJ realistically because he doesn't want to four shots.
He wants to take good shots. So long answer to
your question football right now, just because I believe basketball
will go to the sweet sixteen, still, I just don't
know about that next game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about this blau basketball team that
you'd like to see maybe improved upon? If you're gonna
critique and look, we're this is this is a great
basketball team and we're.
Speaker 1: Nitpicking they're good.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I think that that they've showed that they
can be elite and they can be great. They've had
some undulations, they've had some downs, especially in the first half.
What's your biggest complaint regarding this bo basketball team?
Speaker 1: Defense? Defense needs to be better. I mean they're coming
off of back to that game and in this losing streak,
they've got it that. Yeah, Kevin Young was He's the
one that said it. We didn't even have to say it,
he called. He used these words last week in reference
to his defense, abysmal, pathetic, a joke his words describing
his own defense, saying, hey, we got to be better.
You got a guard. There's no scheme for when a
guy goes one on one straight line drive to the basket,
that's his effort, like you gotta you gotta defend. And
so I thought it was a better effort Saturday. But
Houston is not the game to get right, It's just not.
Those guys are crazy awesome, Like I think they're still
Final four good. They jumped up in the polls into
the into you know, they're in a two seed spot,
Like that's a two seed bu Yu. We hoped would
be that team right now, they're not bu Yu is
probably a very good team still, and granted this four
game losing streak, Ben it's all quad ones. Oklahoma State
was a bad loss relatively speaking, but to them because
of the standard we have, but not to the committee.
The committee goes, okay, quad one loss, that's not bad
and they move on. You know, Oklahoma Baylor is a
Quad one opportunity. You win that, great boy does to
be great man, I think you have to have Quad
one A wins ahead Zebo their own fives, they're they
are what four and one in Quad one B? They
can add a Quad one B with Baylor, Quad two
barelely Colorado coming up, and then it's like, all right,
Arizon and Iowa State and Texas Tech are sitting there.
Can you pull off two of those three in the
final eight? And now you walk in on selections and
then you're probably a five seed and after all of
a sudden done that's not probably as bad as we think.
We just have a high standard.
Speaker 2: For this group.
Speaker 3: The expectations in life determine our happiness, and the expectations
are very high. The bar has been set very high,
and they haven't met that expectation thus far this season.
If they had beaten Houston though at home. I think
they would have level set it and I think all
is forgiven whatever shortcomings there were. Wouldn't everything have been
forgiven if they would have just beat Houston over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I think so, because then you would have had a
top ten net win. It's your best win of the season,
it's your first Quad one A. You know, it's only
what the third loss all year for Houston? I think
so does it fix all your problems? No? But does
it restore you into a place of confidence and sort
of national relevance that you're seeking in trying to be
a top four seed, because that's what, boy, you wanted
in the offseason. They they scheduled to be a top
four seed, Like they looked at Arizona and said, why
are you a four and we're a six and we
have the same record in league. It's because of non
conference and so BYU an ounce scheduled better, which, by
the way, you know several of those wins continue to
be solid with Quad one B, but you have to
get some Quad one A if you're going to be
anything higher than a five, and luckily BYU has three
of those left the final eight games however harder than
the first ten games. The difference in average net is
thirty spots. And the Big Twelve scheduled this way on purpose.
They wanted February to be super compelling. Now the football
is over, who kind of owns February? Typically it's college hoops,
and then you know the NBA will get their time
in the playoffs after March madnus. But this is this,
this is the time for the Big twelve to shine.
And let's see if YU can't seize that opportunity, because
they have some great games coming up.
Speaker 3: What makes you optimistic that BYU bask can pull off
a late a February run like they did last season.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not convinced they can do what they did
last year. That was unbelievable, and the Big twelve is
better this year at the top. What I really want
is five and three in the last eight. I think
that would be tremendous because then you're ten and eight
in league and then you you look like a four
or five seed, and that's good. That's basically the same thing.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: People don't like the five to twelve because it's like
a fifty to fifty proposition, but if you're the four
or five, you play the other four or five in
the second round, and then you probably played the one
in this week sixteen, So it's not a huge difference.
That's kind of my goal for this BOI team, get
to the five line and if they happen to drop
to the sixth. Historically, that's actually the sweet spot for
BA age eighty one. Last year's team they were both
six seeds. That's not the worst thing.
Speaker 3: Speaking historically, I like it a little bit of optimism
brewing at Brigham Young University. Jerem Jordan b what U
Sports Nation here on your Utah ESPN Radio network talking
some Brigham basketball, Brigham football storyline heading into springball. What
are you looking at? What are you monitoring during camp
Kolani twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Six, Yeah, RB two QB two the new defense and
thinger running at. What are the differences there kado U
Luave and what kind of difference he makes? You know,
Raider DEMONI kind of being the full time other safety
at strong with Fola tele at free, you know, backup corners.
It's really a depth conversation like a lot of people,
you know, Walker Lions, Roger Salipaga, how do they look
kind of at tight ends? These new offensive linemen? What
do they look like? A lot of times it's like,
what did the new guys look like? What does the
depth look like? I don't have questions about Bear. I
want questions about LJ, who probably won't be involved. I
assume coming back from the shoulder surgery, it's the only
MOUP play.
Speaker 3: How is he?
Speaker 1: Is he going to be healthy again? Like what does
that look like? So plenty of yeah, plenty of questions.
Number one is probably the defense with k pop and
anytime you get a new coordinator, that's probably it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For those that you've interacted with, what are what are
the Cougar football faithful asking you about this Cougar defense,
this Cougar football team, what's been like their main question
mark surrounding the what you football? Would you say?
Speaker 1: It's kind of the you know can be why you
keep it going? Because Jay Hill's greatest strength was his memory,
his recall, his ability to go okay in this down
a distance of this part of the field. This is
what reference points he has and he would have them memorized,
like his recall was crazy. So that was his strength.
So Kelly Pepinga what strength is he going to bring
having been tutored by Bronco Menenhall and Cline Stacke and
Jay Hill. The next thing is if you're like, it's
all Kelly, I would argue, it's not all Kelly. It's
it's Kelly's influences and mentors, but also Chad uh, you know,
Chad on the staff and Garry Anderson and Kolonie. Like
there's a lot of sort of backing there. It's it's
like it's like a young men man in the ward.
It's not just his dad who's the influence. It's his
school teachers and his friends. It's young men's It's like, honestly,
there's a lot of good influences around Kline or Kelly
to where I'm confident that he'll be able to pick
it up. Now what he sort of stamps as his
own sort of flavor on this defense, that's TVD, but
I'm excited to watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's talking about the defense, and most people feel like, hey,
this last year, the year before, we were running a
ton of forty front and now we're just going to
revert back to a Bronco Mendenhial, a Bronco Mendenhile, Brockol
Mennenhall style three four, What did you see? What have
you discussed with maybe the coaching staff about what they
were running the last couple of years and what K
Pop's going to be running this year and maybe the
seasons to come.
Speaker 1: My sense is that they like what's been working there
and then they'll probably kind of stick with a four three.
But TVD, I mean they've recruited for a four to three.
I don't see a blatant big change there. They could
always do it, but it just that that's a big
switch at this point, Like you kind of needed to
probably do that a couple months ago if you're gonna
do that, so I would be surprised if they switched that.
But yeah, what if all of a sudden it's the
three through five were like Bronco from New Mexico, What
is this? Come on?
Speaker 3: It'd be crazy. There's been crazier things that have happened
in the past, though. Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen, Jerem,
I always appreciate our time. Best way to support you
what you do, how you do it for all of
our listeners.
Speaker 1: Hey, I always say it. Benmo At no, just can
keep keep listening to Ben, keep listening to be a
sports nation, keep consuming all the content. Just beat coognation,
continue to do you. You're awesome. Let's get this going, baby,
Let's keep.
Speaker 3: It rolling and go high. Uh to two super Bowls
in the last almost decade. You know, it's pretty healthy.
It's pretty strong for the Hawks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, John Schneider, the GM winning with two different groups,
pretty impressive, and without Sam Darnold with quarterback as Seahawks team,
Zach Wilson, go be that next guy. That's Zach Wilson story.
Speaker 3: Let's go New England with three titles since twenty ten,
Kansas City with three titles, Seahawks with two, Philadelphia or two.
And then you have a smattering of one winners one
one season winner, Saints, Packers, Giants, Ravens, Broncos, Buccaneers, and Rams.
Maybe the Rams step up next season to win their second.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll probably not leave him out of this. No,
no Rams Niners? Well then I want to question it's
hard league.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask if he was okay with Jsing
getting Offensive Player the Year in not Pooka. But I guess, oh, yeah, no,
guess I guess.
Speaker 1: That I actually wanted took him that because if it's individuals,
I like to be a guys. But if it's team hey,
it's sea.
Speaker 3: Love it. Jeremy. Appreciate you man, Thanks dropping on Hey,
Love you guys. Much love to Jerem Jordan. Ladies and
gentlemen appreciate him hopping off for a little Cougar beat.
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