Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to Rose Pricks. It's the day
Speaker 1: after the Bachelorette. Should we make the announcement? Let's start
Speaker 1: with the announcement?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I say, we don't, just in
Speaker 2: case you're following along in time, just in case someone
Speaker 2: didn't watch, I know, but like just in case they're
Speaker 2: listening to us before. Some people I think listen before
Speaker 2: they watch. Maybe somebody might. All right, just all right,
Speaker 2: I do want to make this announcement before we get
Speaker 2: to that one later. You guys, Stephanie and I are fine.
Speaker 2: Thank you for checking. There was a big freaking earthquake yesterday,
Speaker 2: and we're okay. But like those of you who did
Speaker 2: not check in and personally text us, I'm a little pissed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not it's not super caring caring, it's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't even feel it. I texted them at school
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh what.
Speaker 2: It's so weird because at Universal my friend works at Universal.
Speaker 2: They were on a sound stage. They evacuated the sound stage. Oh,
Speaker 2: I think you're just too far west because it was
Speaker 2: in Pasadena Highland Park. Well, so I was.
Speaker 1: I was recording my other podcast for Crying out loud,
Speaker 1: and I totally felt it there.
Speaker 2: That was in the studio city. Oh you were really close. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we totally felt it.
Speaker 1: I mean we were, we were shaking, but nothing like
Speaker 1: broke or fell off any walls.
Speaker 2: It was already at four point seven, it was, and
Speaker 2: it had been downgraded, but it was okay. I had
Speaker 2: I was peeing and it was I literally set out.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is my nightmare. I'm literally sitting
Speaker 2: on a toilet and the whole my apartment is so flimsy.
Speaker 2: So any even have a little earthquake, it's just it's
Speaker 2: it sways. I was like, and it was long. It
Speaker 2: was a long one, like thirty seconds. Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: pretty long. That shit was crazy. But we're fine. We're fine.
Speaker 2: Jen's fine, samm is fine. Actually samm is not mine,
Speaker 2: but we will get to that. So I don't even
Speaker 2: want to talk about the opening of the show or wait, first,
Speaker 2: do you have any macro notes?
Speaker 1: I don't have any macro notes except that I don't
Speaker 1: love anybody on this show, and that's making it a
Speaker 1: little bit hard.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's easier to make fun of, but usually
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for somebody, but like, my goodness, a lot
Speaker 2: of these guys have come out to be maga and
Speaker 2: Jen seems into them, which question makes me question her,
Speaker 2: but I do macro note. I was happy with how
Speaker 2: things went down with Sam m well for sure. And
Speaker 2: by the way, I can hear Pepo snoring and it's
Speaker 2: so cute. It's so cute. She has to be.
Speaker 1: She's been very very clingy lately. That's madog Pipo. And
Speaker 1: she sleeps under my desk while if I'm at my desk,
Speaker 1: she sleeps at my feet under my desk.
Speaker 2: So was she a little tiny baby? So we don't
Speaker 2: deserve to base. Today, by the way, is my dog's anniversary.
Speaker 2: We've been together fourteen years today. Wow. We don't know
Speaker 2: exactly how old he is because I don't know how
Speaker 2: old he was, you know, right, he's a rescue, but
Speaker 2: fourteen years today in my with me.
Speaker 1: I love him so much and I got him a
Speaker 1: little birthday cake. But you don't know if he was
Speaker 1: a puppy when you got him or not. He grew
Speaker 1: a little bit, but he was a puppy.
Speaker 2: I mean, we think we my ex and I think
Speaker 2: that he was about six months okay, And so I
Speaker 2: think he's about fourteen and a half. But our annivers
Speaker 2: it's our anniversary, and I happy anniversary. Thank you to Monroe. Okay,
Speaker 2: so they're in Seattle because you know, where else are
Speaker 2: you going to go after traveling the world?
Speaker 1: Go to Seattle? I'm sorry, Cecily. Uh it's called the
Speaker 1: Emerald City. Oh right, very important? Oh god, is that
Speaker 1: why they even went there? Did they do all the Oh.
Speaker 2: God, we'll get to We'll get to this. This fucking
Speaker 2: twenty fivecasts is just gonna be us going, We'll get
Speaker 2: to it. We'll get to it. Well, they are at
Speaker 2: the final Rose ceremony and we just go, all right,
Speaker 2: we have to go, but we'll get to it on
Speaker 2: our next episode. We'll tell you, like what happened, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe when we talk about the OC, we'll squeeze that in.
Speaker 2: But so it was shocking to me to hear that, like,
Speaker 2: hometowns are next week, which you'd warned me about, but
Speaker 2: I forgot. I was like, really already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they have to make a drastic cut, which
Speaker 1: I always think is kind of strange because and here's
Speaker 1: why we never got some of these guys. We never
Speaker 1: even really got to know I E. Jeremy, I think
Speaker 1: that they.
Speaker 2: Should Spencer and I mean of like total guys. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think at this point in the in
Speaker 1: the show, instead of eliminating three guys, I think they
Speaker 1: should eliminate more as we go so that each guy
Speaker 1: could get more time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I totally agree with that. Also doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: You've been with them longer and now you're going to
Speaker 2: cut three people, but you know them more, right exactly.
Speaker 2: But maybe their their take is like, well, we want
Speaker 2: to get to know them before we cut them, so
Speaker 2: that gives me. But you know, when you know, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: and there are just.
Speaker 1: Some people that we absolutely knew we're not going to
Speaker 1: make it far that we could have gotten rid of
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Anyway, Yeah, charity shows up. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot of guests that are underutilized in my opinion,
Speaker 1: m M. You know, and sometimes they'll have guests people,
Speaker 1: you know, they'll I'm sure they have to fly them
Speaker 1: out and put them up, you know, like what's your name, Tristam,
Speaker 1: And then usually they'll have like a whole thing, they
Speaker 1: have us sit down with them and they'll give them advice.
Speaker 1: And this one was like not not that, it was like.
Speaker 2: Hi, bye. I mean that's editing. I'm sure they had
Speaker 2: more time. I love that. You're like, they probably put
Speaker 2: them up like they make them. They're like, Charity, do
Speaker 2: you want to be on the episode? You do have
Speaker 2: to pay for yourself and we will not allow you
Speaker 2: to upgrade. So it has to be coached, and you know,
Speaker 2: we have discounts on like motels, right, and those people
Speaker 2: if that was the case, which I hear your joke,
Speaker 2: but I have a feeling those people would be like, yeah, okay, cool, cool,
Speaker 2: I'll I've got miles. No, I really want to do
Speaker 2: it all right, We're not going to get a lot
Speaker 2: of lines. God, the memorization that they had to do
Speaker 2: for you know, for their thing also was just so painful.
Speaker 2: Oh when we get to the oz well, well, Charity.
Speaker 2: So Charity sits down and she's like, how you holding up?
Speaker 2: You know? She says, She's like whatever, and she's like
Speaker 2: Jen goes, she goes, I literally what I'm doing is
Speaker 2: or maybe she says this. Charity says, She's like how
Speaker 2: do you do it? And she's like, I literally had
Speaker 2: a list of their names. It's like, oh, so you
Speaker 2: know their names. That's a great start. Yeah, and John's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: names good, good advice, And she says, oh, I wish
Speaker 2: I'd thought of that, like before, Yeah, I'm not some
Speaker 2: of their names I don't even know this week. Had
Speaker 2: I known that, like I should have had a notebook
Speaker 2: with me, that would have solved a lot, right, Like,
Speaker 2: just I was so poor Charity. I mean she is,
Speaker 2: she is very likeable, like she's never did anything wrong. No,
Speaker 2: she's lovely, she's it's just it's just kind of boring
Speaker 2: because there's not a lot of there's no edge to her,
Speaker 2: and she seems a little checked out. She's she's too
Speaker 2: good for this. You're all too good for this, I think,
Speaker 2: except for Sam. But I just love that. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I literally listen to names. Yeah yeah, okay, great, So
Speaker 2: that's all we get. Right, So then they kind of
Speaker 2: go over all the dudes. No one cares because we
Speaker 2: already know all this exactly. Then the guys just freak
Speaker 2: the fuck out over a hotel. They were like, there's
Speaker 2: there's records on the wall, guys, let's jump on the bed.
Speaker 2: They have to do this every time. They're so amped
Speaker 2: up because they're being told like this is kind of
Speaker 2: a commercial for this hotel, so, you know, to let
Speaker 2: us know how you really feel like they're so dumb.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh okay, oh my god, this hotel has lamps.
Speaker 2: What I can see? Oh my god, guys, I opened
Speaker 2: a drawer. There's a little notepad in the drawer. There's
Speaker 2: a pan too, and you can plug stuff in. There's outlets,
Speaker 2: you guys, there's electricity, and they're they're okay. There's two
Speaker 2: camps of guys that are either cocky or feeling insecure.
Speaker 2: We got our cocky guys right and who they are
Speaker 2: Sam and Devin obviously, and the rest are just I
Speaker 2: literally wrote, and I literally I wrote, how is Jeremy
Speaker 2: still there? Huh? What a slap in my face? It
Speaker 2: came later. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Really weird that what's his name, Marcus got a second
Speaker 1: one o one one o one? He got a second
Speaker 1: one o one. We should just call it that, that
Speaker 1: should just be yeah, he got a one o one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we've we've like invented something. We sure did.
Speaker 2: And I'm with you on Marcus, Like he didn't seem
Speaker 2: to We may have said this off air, he didn't
Speaker 2: seem to want this one on one. He's like, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: it's weird that you're giving me another one.
Speaker 1: But oh, She's like, I kind of thought I told
Speaker 1: you I can't love.
Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't care. I don't care. That's
Speaker 2: my type. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Of course you can't love. I'm in She's so like,
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to change my thing, like you know,
Speaker 1: which we'll see with Sam later. But Marcus keeps telling her.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm too fucked up. I'm really really damaged
Speaker 1: I do. I can't get vulnerable, I can't share my feelings.
Speaker 1: I can't really fall in love. I can't get there.
Speaker 1: And she's like, it's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, there's a couple of things going on that
Speaker 2: we're going to get to that we're shocking to me
Speaker 2: because I, you know, we haven't been spoiled, so I
Speaker 2: didn't know about his family, and it was really heartbreaking
Speaker 2: to hear. So I changed my opinion about him a
Speaker 2: little bit because I just figured I still think this
Speaker 2: is true. I think he's you know, got issues attaching
Speaker 2: for sure, but I also think he's not into her.
Speaker 2: I know that he's sort of like, well, maybe I
Speaker 2: guess I'm kind of you know. They they had to
Speaker 2: bend producers had to do things I've never seen them
Speaker 2: do before to make him like, go, I guess I
Speaker 2: can make out with her here. I guess I kind
Speaker 2: of like her. It was so awkward. So he gives
Speaker 2: her this, like, she gives him this Letterman jack, a
Speaker 2: green letterman jacket, you know, like you do. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: does she give that to him or does he just
Speaker 2: does production give it to him? Oh? Well, yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: she doesn't. A box comes in. I always assume it's
Speaker 2: supposed to be from her. Oh right, you know, because
Speaker 2: the note or whatever. But I get you know, of course,
Speaker 2: his production. So he puts it on over the coat
Speaker 2: he's already wearing. I'm like, dude, take off the other coat.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be too tight.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, he is a mom, so he didn't have
Speaker 1: anyone to tell him that you just wear one coat
Speaker 1: at a time.
Speaker 2: Oh sad love. I really felt for him the story,
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, that was all right. That was weird.
Speaker 2: So they go, they're having their date. Jesse shows up
Speaker 2: on a trolley obviously, and now we find out that
Speaker 2: this whole fucking thing. The next fifteen minutes is a
Speaker 2: trailer for the movie Wicked, right, which I'm excited about
Speaker 2: the movie Wicked, but like, don't mix these two things.
Speaker 2: I don't want any Wicked in my bachelor. I don't want.
Speaker 1: It's like a I don't. It's like interesting because I
Speaker 1: felt that way about Barbie, and you were all about it.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even being funny. You were like, no,
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that they're doing all this
Speaker 1: Barbie stuff.
Speaker 2: It's right. I take it back. I was wrong if
Speaker 2: I said I loved it. I think I was just
Speaker 2: hyped up about Barbie. And it's not that I'm not
Speaker 2: hyped up about Wicked, but like, I think I loved
Speaker 2: Barbie so much that I was just happy to see them,
Speaker 2: you know, do little dances. But you're right, it doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense. No, it's just a commercial. I just
Speaker 2: feel like I'm watching a commercial. I also don't understand
Speaker 2: because Wicked is universal, so I don't even understand how
Speaker 2: that's tight. And it's not even the same network that
Speaker 2: would be NBC, so I was confused by that. It's
Speaker 2: a whole different studio. But I guess they just did
Speaker 2: some sort of pass. I guess it's their funny money money, money, money,
Speaker 2: and they paid a lot and they don't even have
Speaker 2: to because everyone knows about Wicked. We're already excited.
Speaker 1: Okay, So such thing that I have to say is
Speaker 1: that is trying to make these boots work again, and
Speaker 1: they don't work for me. I am sorry, But the
Speaker 1: problem is that she needs the way she's It's not
Speaker 1: even really about the way she's built. It has nothing
Speaker 1: really to do with her body. It's just the if
Speaker 1: you're wearing kind of a wide skirt, you can't have
Speaker 1: boots that are kind of wide at the top. They
Speaker 1: need to be a little more fitted, or just it
Speaker 1: looks strange, it looks too much.
Speaker 2: I hear you, I do hear you. I think I've
Speaker 2: made that mistake a few times. I think how tall
Speaker 2: is she? Is she a little one? I think she's small.
Speaker 2: I think she's little. I've had that problem too, because
Speaker 2: I try to wear skirts, and and I do wear
Speaker 2: them sometimes it works, but it has to be quite
Speaker 2: like a good fit. I think it's just like a
Speaker 2: problem of being I think she looks great. I didn't
Speaker 2: really notice. I think it's just like, I know what
Speaker 2: you mean. I think those are just not good boots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying she's gorgeous. I just think that her
Speaker 1: stylist needs like when you when you're far back, maybe
Speaker 1: her stylist is just looking at the boots, looking at
Speaker 1: her and going, yes, I like these boots, and not
Speaker 1: really seeing the whole.
Speaker 2: I think we're just used to seeing really tall modey,
Speaker 2: you know. I think that's I think that's part of it.
Speaker 1: I guess the thing is what one thing to know
Speaker 1: about me is that I do I work, I would
Speaker 1: say full time as a stylist. So I'm just bringing
Speaker 1: I'm bringing that knowledge.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Wait a minute, hold on,
Speaker 2: Actually I don't know what you mean. You don't know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Well, I know the words that you're
Speaker 2: saying are English. I understand, I comprehend them. But you
Speaker 2: say that you work full time as a stylist, and
Speaker 2: you've never brought this up in like our yeah sets.
Speaker 2: Every day I'm on a movie set styling. Well, like,
Speaker 2: what's your latest movie that you styled? Wicked? Wicked? Yes
Speaker 2: it was. It was a great job, Thank you. I
Speaker 2: did well.
Speaker 1: I did that Colleen Hoover, the one that's based on
Speaker 1: the book. I can't names are not like my big
Speaker 1: thing that the last of us. That's what it's called.
Speaker 1: I reviewed it. It's called grands or it ends with us.
Speaker 1: It ends with us, but whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't names names, right did I styled it?
Speaker 2: This is weird? All right? Well, I mean you did
Speaker 2: a great job and I didn't know that about you.
Speaker 2: So it's always information. I mean, you know, I'm a doctor,
Speaker 2: so sometimes in fact, I gotta go do a surgery
Speaker 2: real quick. Let's pause, let me do a hand surgery.
Speaker 2: So okay, if they're gonna do this stuff, they did
Speaker 2: it with Barbie, like you said, I mean, let's just
Speaker 2: and then they try to make it fit into the narrative,
Speaker 2: which the narrative about Wicked is not. It's not a
Speaker 2: loves like they're really I mean, I'm surprised they weren't like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, we used to not get along because like
Speaker 2: you're a wicked witch, but you were really misunderstood. And
Speaker 2: I mean they really like, why not do with Leme's
Speaker 2: or up? You know, I'm a sex worker, just like
Speaker 2: Fontine and Lemez. You know me, I'm a sex worker
Speaker 2: and we had this baby together. But I'd like to
Speaker 2: give this baby up to have you know, a better life,
Speaker 2: and they're like, how can we make that work? Let's
Speaker 2: just make let's just somehow find a way to tie
Speaker 2: that in to the Bachelor, right, it's so stupid and
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: So Marcus right away, before they even start on their adventure,
Speaker 1: Marcus just keeps I just already keeps telling us it's
Speaker 1: this is it's really pretty impossible for me to be vulnerable.
Speaker 2: And he's not wrong, he's not writing.
Speaker 1: No, he's really trying to force himself into this role,
Speaker 1: which is kind of a theme with these people. And
Speaker 1: then the ones that aren't trying to force themselves, the
Speaker 1: ones that are really feeling something.
Speaker 2: She's like, next, right, of course, that's just human nature. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we still get that.
Speaker 1: First stop is Daisy and Kelsey, who are like best friends.
Speaker 2: No, they're dressed up like the thing, and I.
Speaker 1: Just everybody's so everybody in these scenes is going to
Speaker 1: be in pink or green, and they hired a background company,
Speaker 1: So I have friends that run background companies, and basically
Speaker 1: they hired a bunch of people to be on the
Speaker 1: street dressed in pink or green. And it plays really
Speaker 1: strange because it's kind of a mix of also there's
Speaker 1: regular people there, so there's like a bunch of people
Speaker 1: in pink, but then there's people with their faces blurred.
Speaker 2: Yes, I noticed that. I was like, what is this?
Speaker 2: And then they're really they're pushing it so hard. What
Speaker 2: if they had, like, like they have to have little
Speaker 2: people they have Peter Danklich come out and he just
Speaker 2: so like begrudgingly like he because you know, he's such
Speaker 2: a grum he's such an asshole. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 2: it you guys, if you haven't listened to that story
Speaker 2: on board AF I had a couple run ins with
Speaker 2: Peter Dingklinche and I'm not even joking. He's just he's
Speaker 2: just insufferable. So what if they just see he just
Speaker 2: he hadn't worked in a while, and he just comes
Speaker 2: out and he's like, oh what is this? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm an umba lumpa and they're like, no,
Speaker 2: that's a different movie. We're doing an oz thing. God,
Speaker 2: you have to just smile. Just smile, that's all you
Speaker 2: have to do.
Speaker 1: And he just started assaulting the guys. He's like, who's
Speaker 1: this fucking guy? Can't get vulnerable?
Speaker 2: Fuck this guy, I'm not wearing this hat and I'm
Speaker 2: not putting this makeup on. I'm not doing it. Just
Speaker 2: throw us off all his stuff and they have to
Speaker 2: just pro shit. Yeah, and it's somehow it's live cut
Speaker 2: all right, back to one Danklidge. They pull on the side,
Speaker 2: like can we take five real quick before we Dingklish
Speaker 2: he's really mean to Jen. It's like, what an idiot,
Speaker 2: You're here to find love on a fucking TV show.
Speaker 2: It's like, what is an aesthetic? He's like, God, I'm
Speaker 2: so I was on Game of Thrones. You've seen me
Speaker 2: on many indie films like The Station Agent. Surely you've seen.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm Peter fucking Dinglish. He's so mad, he's
Speaker 2: just so many Yeah, and he's yelling at everybody. But
Speaker 2: he really, for some reason, hates Marcus the most, who's
Speaker 2: just done nothing to him. Marcus is like, I've tried
Speaker 2: to protect you, I've protected our country. He's like country shmuntry.
Speaker 2: You have a bunch of cunts. All right, Well that's
Speaker 2: our show because you guys can figure out the rest.
Speaker 2: I love the way we've added in Peter Dnklich, who
Speaker 2: was not actually even on the show, but we've given
Speaker 2: him a whole storyline, whole backstory. H huh, I'm Peter
Speaker 2: fucking Danklige, you cunts, because he s it's the Wisard
Speaker 2: of Oz. Yes, he's on the yellow brick road, guiding
Speaker 2: them like they have to. I'm surprised they didn't do that.
Speaker 2: It seems like something they would do. I mean, because
Speaker 2: they're really tone deaf. I'm surprised they didn't take Who's
Speaker 2: like somebody from a past season, who just any guy
Speaker 2: name a guy like who?
Speaker 1: Pilot pilot pilot P.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't hear you. So they bring out pilot P.
Speaker 2: But they're just like, can you get on your knees
Speaker 2: and pretend to be a little person. I'm shocked they
Speaker 2: didn't do that. I wouldn't put it past them. I
Speaker 2: think you're right, okay. But what they do have is
Speaker 2: Kelsey and Daisy, who are like, now, I didn't even
Speaker 2: understand this whole thing.
Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, we're gonna do an adventure. It's all
Speaker 1: planned out. We're going to see if you're compatible. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have all these little challenges and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to who likes what like either or? But then the
Speaker 1: last one's going to be this big challenge and that
Speaker 1: one you're gonna have to work together and like compromise.
Speaker 2: It was exhausting, how much work. I mean, they want
Speaker 2: Marcus to win this so badly, Like they are really
Speaker 2: pushing Mark. That's all I could take from this, Like,
Speaker 2: right else would they give? He's not the guy for
Speaker 2: this date. He doesn't even know what wicked is. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: he's not a musical's dad. Now he's being forced to
Speaker 2: like pretend right, He's like, what is this? They have
Speaker 2: this weird They put out a weird like yellow mat
Speaker 2: to like to look like a little road that they
Speaker 2: have to go around, and he's just I just kept writing.
Speaker 2: He's just he's not the person for this date. So
Speaker 2: they have to choose. They're like spicy versus sweet, Like
Speaker 2: spicy so.
Speaker 1: Gross, And they have to eat eat a pepper, which
Speaker 1: we've seen one hundred fucking times on these shows, including
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I mean, how many times have people had
Speaker 1: to eat a pepper?
Speaker 2: Why? Why is that a thing?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you, oh my gosh, your mouth got uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Is that bonding? Are you? Is it? Like? Oh my god?
Speaker 2: If we can burn the inside of their mouths. They're
Speaker 2: gonna want to be together, But I guess what else
Speaker 2: are they going to do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like what else? How do you fill two hours like
Speaker 2: they have? I actually started in on this date hating it,
Speaker 2: and then I was sort of like they just they
Speaker 2: just beat me so over the head. By the end,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I guess that was they sure,
Speaker 2: they sure tried hard. Yeah. Then there's scream. There's scream
Speaker 2: or whisper. Oh man, that was that was an intern.
Speaker 1: And then they yeah that was that was the people
Speaker 1: that write the bios. That was so cringe.
Speaker 2: They screamed, and then he just goes, I like Gin,
Speaker 2: I like Gin, I like her. That's what he screamed
Speaker 2: under the wind? Yeah yep. Oh. And then they had
Speaker 2: a pillow fight? Is that right after that? I mean,
Speaker 2: was that like softer horror? I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but they chose and that was just a full pilifight.
Speaker 2: And both of them seemed I mean, they were they
Speaker 2: were you know, they they what do you call it,
Speaker 2: like self consis went with it. Yeah, no, they were
Speaker 2: self conscious, but they were troopers. That was the way
Speaker 2: I was looking for, Like they really were I don't know,
Speaker 2: I would have been like, I'm not doing this. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I have nothing to lose. You can't cut the show
Speaker 2: now we've come this far. I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And Marcus is so uncomfortable with a lot of things.
Speaker 1: He's clearly like you said, not the guy for this date,
Speaker 1: not the guy for any date. Really, he doesn't really
Speaker 1: seem like he wants to be there. And then when
Speaker 1: he finally puts his foot down, they're like, okay, faster
Speaker 1: or slow and Marcus is like, well slow, Like have
Speaker 1: you met me? Have you do you know me at all?
Speaker 1: Have you asked me any questions? I've obviously have said
Speaker 1: many times I would want to take things slow. I'm
Speaker 1: not there, I'm not in love. And she's like fast, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a fast girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then she's like the fact that Marcus says he's slow,
Speaker 1: that's concerning. I like to go really fast, which is
Speaker 1: not working for you in the past.
Speaker 2: Gen and A'll so he's told you that, Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what else he can do to say, like, look,
Speaker 2: I literally just met you. I feel weird kissing on
Speaker 2: camera as it is right let alone, like like laying
Speaker 2: down on a pillow with you and with people watching.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, right, right. So then they finally choose slow,
Speaker 2: and they didn't they choose slow, I think. And they
Speaker 2: open that one and it's a bell for no reason,
Speaker 2: and no they choose fast. Oh, they choose fast, yes,
Speaker 2: which is the thing. It's like she forces him, She's like,
Speaker 2: well we're going to go fast, and he's like all right,
Speaker 2: let's try that. Oh yeah, you're right, okay. So then
Speaker 2: that gives them a bell, which gets them Daisy and
Speaker 2: Kelsey again for some reason. And it was at that moment,
Speaker 2: this is such it's such a nonsensical thing, like it was.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of stuff that my friends and I
Speaker 2: would do in fourth grade. Would be like, okay, if
Speaker 2: you pick the number seven, then okay, then you have
Speaker 2: to wear this red sweater like we come up with
Speaker 2: these like bizarre, convoluted bullshit. That's what this felt like.
Speaker 2: A fourth grader can Okay, then you get a bell,
Speaker 2: and then Daisy comes back, and then you got it
Speaker 2: and then they're all and then Charity comes back. Is
Speaker 2: Linda the gitch right right? Because you know it's still wicked.
Speaker 2: Let's never forget that. That's the whole point of the
Speaker 2: show is to give an ad for a movie that
Speaker 2: they will never see. Right, Oh my god. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: that's when they get to the balloons that they have
Speaker 2: to pop.
Speaker 1: Right, which would have been that there's no like, okay,
Speaker 1: there's no choose your own adventure here. This is how
Speaker 1: it was planned and it doesn't matter if they'd picked
Speaker 1: fast or slow or round or whatever. They would get
Speaker 1: to this part that they planned out for them.
Speaker 2: Correct. Very good point. And also I felt like Mark
Speaker 2: Wahlberg and Boogie Nights because you know, I don't like
Speaker 2: I don't like I don't like balloons if I'm honest,
Speaker 2: I don't like them because the idea that someone's gonna
Speaker 2: pop it, and yeah, it scares me too. Now we're
Speaker 2: just doing it on purpose, right, I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's like the firecracker scene in Bookie Nights.
Speaker 2: I just felt so like, oh my god, I'm already
Speaker 2: anxious now this is happening. And then you have to
Speaker 2: pop a balloon to get like a photo of your childhood.
Speaker 2: It was so dumb and it didn't matter. But basically,
Speaker 2: what we find out is that Marcus has a sister
Speaker 2: and it's not yet oh, because I share your proudest moment.
Speaker 2: This is one of the things that the first, the
Speaker 2: very first thing and the balloon popping was share your
Speaker 2: proudest moment. And he's like when I graduated the military,
Speaker 2: and then uh, and my sister was with me. And
Speaker 2: then Jen goes, I'm glad you got to share that,
Speaker 2: and then Marcus I was like, oh my god, my
Speaker 2: sister is like so great. And then they watch a
Speaker 2: video of his sister saying I really miss you, my brother,
Speaker 2: and you better come home with a fiance on your arm.
Speaker 2: No pressure, right, And there's like no way she's not
Speaker 2: going to give him a rose after all this, Like
Speaker 2: that's the thing that was annoying. I guess they just
Speaker 2: already knew that she was going to choose him, because like,
Speaker 2: what's the point She's already choosing him. There's no way
Speaker 2: after all that she'd be like, I'm not killing it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so so suid. So then Trista just to show.
Speaker 1: Up not yet. So first the next thing is something
Speaker 1: for Jen, and it's Jen's mom wrote her a letter.
Speaker 1: I have to say, seemed.
Speaker 2: A lot longer than what she read, but it.
Speaker 1: Was basically like, so Jen is completely dry eyed, while
Speaker 1: Marcus is crying about like his sister and like the military,
Speaker 1: the graduation or whatever. But then when Jen gets a
Speaker 1: letter from her mom that's like, hey, sorry, I gave
Speaker 1: you a broken home. That wasn't my intention. I really
Speaker 1: love you so much, then Jen is like crying. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not loving Jen as much as I
Speaker 1: did before.
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't dislike I. Actually, I think we've switched.
Speaker 2: I don't love her, but I like her more than
Speaker 2: I did. I think she just doesn't take it that seriously,
Speaker 2: which we would be like too. If we were on that,
Speaker 2: we wouldn't take it that serious. We wouldn't cry all
Speaker 2: the time. I mean, she cries finally because she's exhausted
Speaker 2: because they made them do like a nineteen hour challenge.
Speaker 1: I guess here's what I think. She's trying to be
Speaker 1: feeling something for Marcus, who's really going to trauma dump,
Speaker 1: like for real, for real later. But her thing is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I didn't have a dad. Well I did have
Speaker 1: a dad for a long time, but then my dad
Speaker 1: lived in the basement and then he left, and I
Speaker 1: really fucked up because I didn't have a dad.
Speaker 2: So it's like, no.
Speaker 1: Matter what anybody says, she's like, yeah, but my dad thing,
Speaker 1: which is just a little bit hard because it doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily compete with people who had it like much worse
Speaker 1: than you, which is why I almost feel like she
Speaker 1: should go like, oh, like, I feel like if she's
Speaker 1: genuine empathy, yes that's what I mean, instead of turning
Speaker 1: it right back to like, oh yeah, I totally get it.
Speaker 1: But what he's saying, all these terrible stuff, I get
Speaker 1: it because we have like the same childhood.
Speaker 2: No you didn't, you really didn't, And you know what,
Speaker 2: You're so right, because that's her whole thing. Later is
Speaker 2: about how she's like, well, what do you think of me?
Speaker 2: Though it's never about what she thinks of them, No, never,
Speaker 2: it's her whole thing. And so before we get to
Speaker 2: the next thing, I do want to say, can we
Speaker 2: talk about the hot air balloon just real quick? Yeah,
Speaker 2: just a shows up and you're right, that's kind of
Speaker 2: one of those just like that feels like a long
Speaker 2: way she had to leave her Ayahuasca trip that she
Speaker 2: went on. She's like to do one line in Seattle
Speaker 2: and I got to wear this thing. Okay, yeah, in
Speaker 2: a gallicate and then you guys, have you guys ever
Speaker 2: defied gravity? Well, you're about to hot air balloon, and
Speaker 2: now you've just totally given up on the fact that, like,
Speaker 2: because the whole thing was that Jen is so afraid
Speaker 2: of heights, and now every episode is like, oh, are
Speaker 2: you still afraid of heights? Okay, well we're gonna send
Speaker 2: you up in an unmanned hot air balloon, which looked
Speaker 2: a little like shoddy. If you did it looked there
Speaker 2: was like a there's a butterfly on it, So I
Speaker 2: think they put that on there so we didn't notice that.
Speaker 2: It kind of looked punctured. Yes, it looked like you
Speaker 2: notice that, especially when they came back. I think that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it looked like it had lost air. I was like,
Speaker 2: is there atacks in that happened in the during their trip?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that you've noticed that too.
Speaker 2: But you know what would have kept them cozy in
Speaker 2: the hot air balloon when it's getting a little bit
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Speaker 2: Okay, So meanwhile, back at the house, the guys are
Speaker 2: kind of bummed, but we don't really we don't. We
Speaker 2: don't sit there for a while because now we're at
Speaker 2: our baseball field date, like as though they had not
Speaker 2: done enough. Like we did enough, We did everything there
Speaker 2: is to do. With Marcus, yes, he's okay, but this
Speaker 2: is a big moment. So he's getting he's feeling overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: He's excited about being on the baseball field. He's like,
Speaker 2: I never thought i'd be here. You know, he's into that.
Speaker 2: That's more his speed than Wicked. But then you know,
Speaker 2: I was going to call it a trauma dump, but
Speaker 2: I don't even want to call it that because it
Speaker 2: was so real, Like this poor guy, I had no
Speaker 2: idea that was his life. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You're skipping to the nighttime portion right dinner? Oh? Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought I got. There was so much with him
Speaker 2: that I thought I got those two things. We got
Speaker 2: the baseball field. It was all. It was all. They
Speaker 2: were just like bananas and bananas going on. Yes, so
Speaker 2: don't forget that.
Speaker 1: Then we we quickly find out the date card is
Speaker 1: going to everyone. Everyone's on the group date except for Jeremy.
Speaker 1: So we find out Jeremy's going to be getting the
Speaker 1: one oh one mm hmm to.
Speaker 2: The one on one he gets that. Look, we know
Speaker 2: what we're doing, guys, We're making T shirts. Okay, you
Speaker 2: try branding. I want to one on one date. They're
Speaker 2: gonna do it on the show. They're gonna be like,
Speaker 2: who's getting the one on one? Yeah? Because you know
Speaker 2: how we hate that, like hometown even just words like hometown.
Speaker 2: I literally wrote on my thing I go Cecily hates
Speaker 2: this because they do it a lot. I'm going to hometown, yeah,
Speaker 2: Fantasy suites yeah, or America's next, talking about pant We're
Speaker 2: going to panel. Shut up. It's not things that people say.
Speaker 2: So she's like babbling, Oh, she starts kind of babbling
Speaker 2: about their safe space. Is this on the nighttime date?
Speaker 2: I guess it has to be now right. Well there, I.
Speaker 1: Also wrote there's just a lot of I'm fearful, I'm hopeful,
Speaker 1: journey adventure, soulmate. They're so bland. Okay, yes, so Marcus
Speaker 1: tears up. He's like, oh, I can't be vulnerable. But
Speaker 1: then he's like he gets right to it.
Speaker 2: He's late in this moment. I felt for him.
Speaker 1: Because I don't come from a perfect family. My sister
Speaker 1: and I were born in a rough situation. Our parents
Speaker 1: couldn't take care of us. And then they brought us
Speaker 1: to day one day and never came back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they were like shopped around a different
Speaker 2: foster peer. I mean he really did. He downplayed it.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I didn't you know, man, I'm the
Speaker 2: best childhood. Like, no, you you might have had the worst.
Speaker 2: This poor guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and this is gonna sound terrible, and I
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound terrible, and I feel really badly.
Speaker 1: But like my stepfather had a really similar background. Okay,
Speaker 1: his mom died when he was really young and he
Speaker 1: was sent to a basically they it was more of
Speaker 1: an orphanage in those days, and so it's like today's
Speaker 1: foster home. It's like a foster group, uh, and with
Speaker 1: a bunch of boys there. And then he was put
Speaker 1: in different homes and then sent back like he was
Speaker 1: kind of used in different foster with different foster families,
Speaker 1: and then then he went back to the group home
Speaker 1: and then eventually, like at eighteen, just joined the military.
Speaker 1: So but here's what I'll say, stepfather is real fucked
Speaker 1: up and you know, didn't really get actual help and
Speaker 1: therapy and solve and you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it's very very sad. It also doesn't necessarily make you
Speaker 1: it a good partner.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good well a good Yeah, no of course,
Speaker 2: And I'm yeah, no it is. And we're not saying
Speaker 2: Marcus isn't fucked up. He's saying he is.
Speaker 1: Well, that's my point, right, That's my point though, is
Speaker 1: like it's difficult when you're watching it because you're like,
Speaker 1: I feel really badly for him, but I do not
Speaker 1: think that this guy is ready to be somebody's husband.
Speaker 2: And I don't think he's under her. Whether he is
Speaker 2: he's both of those things are true. He's not ready
Speaker 2: for any of this. But it's also I don't think
Speaker 2: if he was, it'd be her. Not that there's anything
Speaker 2: wrong with her, she's great, but I just don't think
Speaker 2: he's that ender is the vibe I get, right, But
Speaker 2: I think that she's feeling terrible for him.
Speaker 1: And she's also I don't want to say mistaking it,
Speaker 1: but like, I don't think it's enough to just be vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's enough to be like, I'm willing
Speaker 1: to tell you this awful story about my childhood, because
Speaker 1: that's that's not.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's he might be abusive.
Speaker 2: Yeah we don't know anything yet, Yeah we don't know.
Speaker 2: And then so she has to give him a rose,
Speaker 2: and it's so ai written her speel like it's like, oh, Marcus,
Speaker 2: did you enjoy the enjoy the Emerald City today? Did
Speaker 2: you have a good time? I thank you for being vulnerable?
Speaker 2: Bye bye, Like it's just so written.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she's also she's also like acknowledging. She's she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, hearing his story really makes me understand where
Speaker 1: he's coming from. And I kind of get why he
Speaker 1: can't open up, and that's why I like him.
Speaker 2: So much more. That shouldn't be your reaction, right, But
Speaker 2: she can't cut him there. I mean, there's no there's
Speaker 2: nothing left to do. She's just like, well, I guess
Speaker 2: I'm going to your hometown. Yes, yeah, I mean that's it.
Speaker 2: That's what they wanted, so like that's what she has
Speaker 2: to do. Like I've never seen them do so much
Speaker 2: on a date on one date ever in any season
Speaker 2: ever like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what you said we were talking earlier off
Speaker 1: the air, but it's kind of true. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: we I don't know. I mean, if she doesn't pick him,
Speaker 1: that's going to be I mean, he's with this guy
Speaker 1: with horrible abandonment issues. I think it's gonna she's got
Speaker 1: him to totally open up. Oh you think he'll self
Speaker 1: eliminate either he gets either he's either they're engaged, which
Speaker 1: I don't see ending.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I think he has a lot of work to do
Speaker 1: on himself. And I don't mean that like like work
Speaker 1: to do on himself, like it's his fault. But I
Speaker 1: mean I think he has to get healed. He's got
Speaker 1: the military trauma and his childhood trauma, right, and he's
Speaker 1: saying I'm not ready for this he's saying, I'm I don't.
Speaker 2: I can't. I don't think I can do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so either he self eliminates or she eliminates him,
Speaker 1: or he wins. None of these things are a good situation.
Speaker 2: Not as of yet, not yet. We haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 2: But I agree with you. So now we got a
Speaker 2: lot to go. So now on the radio, we got
Speaker 2: the radio show, which I thought you might have some
Speaker 2: insight too. I think I know that guy, the guy
Speaker 2: with a gray beard. I can't now, I can't remember
Speaker 2: his name, but I think I've met him at morting
Speaker 2: Jebel Jubil and Bender. I think I know Bender. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I know Bender. I think
Speaker 2: I was on air with Bender. I'm not joking. I
Speaker 2: believe I don't remember. Yeah, I'm almost positive. And uh,
Speaker 2: I kind of liked this. I kind of liked this
Speaker 2: little stop and by the morning show King. Okay, I
Speaker 2: mean it was, you know, cheesy and set up, but
Speaker 2: they have done that before you got you had Jason
Speaker 2: and Molly there. Did you notize that Molly was like
Speaker 2: kind of yelling, like not like she was screaming and
Speaker 2: mad at somebody, but her voice like she has a
Speaker 2: problem maybe with her voice. Yeah, I did kind of
Speaker 2: notice that. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't think she had a problem with her voice.
Speaker 1: I was reading it as like she's being very performative. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he would just be like, yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: good to heet me here, and she's like, we were
Speaker 1: all on the show too one time.
Speaker 2: He's like, all right, Molly, we know, we know how
Speaker 2: that went down. It was a good That was actually
Speaker 2: a very good season, right, right, So they asked her
Speaker 2: questions and she's she's alone with these two DJs, and
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, like, I literally like Sam the most.
Speaker 2: I love to kiss him.
Speaker 1: And then the guys come in and I noticed on
Speaker 1: the Chiron they're still calling him Sam. M there's no
Speaker 1: other Sam's anymore. You don't have to do that, guys.
Speaker 1: He could just be Sam now. So they decide they do.
Speaker 1: They're like, we're gonna do rapid fire word Association. Okay,
Speaker 1: shower and one of the guys goes every day that
Speaker 1: was grand, yeah yeah. And then they're like Rose and
Speaker 1: the guy goes me or whatever, and then they get
Speaker 1: to Sam and they say fantasy.
Speaker 2: Suite and he says aggressive, Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised
Speaker 2: he didn't just say Trump, I love Trump, Mada. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was so bizarre and everyone's like whoa, and they
Speaker 2: love it. The guys love it. Devin's like, I knew
Speaker 2: this was going to happen because he's a dumb ass,
Speaker 2: But what did that even mean? They didn't even stop
Speaker 2: and analyze that. The radio guys didn't even go, what
Speaker 2: do you mean by aggressive? Well, they kind of did.
Speaker 2: I feel like the like the woman, Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I feel like they said something. Somebody said something. They
Speaker 2: were like, whoa, Okay, is that? What are you sure
Speaker 2: that's what you want to go with? Well, then they
Speaker 2: just moved on though he'd never explained what he meant
Speaker 2: by that. What do you mean by you say? I
Speaker 2: think he's just so dumb? They didn't want to fuck
Speaker 2: with him because they're like, oh, we can't. This is
Speaker 2: going to be really bad radio because he's not something's
Speaker 2: wrong with his mind. Yeah. It was bizarre. It was crazy,
Speaker 2: and it kept getting worse, and the guys are loving it,
Speaker 2: and I was kind of loving watching the guys it,
Speaker 2: you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're like, well, give us three words to
Speaker 1: describe Jen and somebody's like witty, charming, intellectual.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then they're they're like, Sam, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about Jen? And he goes, uh, well.
Speaker 2: Well you're I've said I'm falling in love with Jen
Speaker 2: from the first meeting, but that's a lie. It's been
Speaker 2: since she made a toast about ferocious love, and I
Speaker 2: would describe my love as reckless. And then then they
Speaker 2: go to Devon and he's like, yeah, Sam talks and
Speaker 2: talks and talks, but doesn't really say anything. Then they
Speaker 2: come back to Sam and he goes, and I'm the
Speaker 2: kind of person who's always filling up other people's cups.
Speaker 2: I was like, with what drinks laced with row? Hypno,
Speaker 2: what are you filling upple? What does that mean? He
Speaker 2: just says all the things he said everything, every mishmash
Speaker 2: is just a word salad of reality shows speak. That's
Speaker 2: what he's doing. It's just a fire passion, ferocious love,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. He's just so I understand, getting flustered,
Speaker 2: like he's maybe not the guy for he's not a talker,
Speaker 2: as Devin told us, Like he's like this is not
Speaker 2: his strong suit, which he also says later, but he's literally,
Speaker 2: it's like he's a robot that is shutting down. He's
Speaker 2: like in two thousand and one, which he later says,
Speaker 2: he actually says, Daisy, oh yeah, get we'll get to
Speaker 2: that huge. That was huge. That's funny though, because oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh it's coming right here. I wrote it all down.
Speaker 1: So basically Jen is kind of rolling her eyes and
Speaker 1: the guys are noticing it, and Jen goes, I'm and
Speaker 1: Jen says to I think to the camera, She's like,
Speaker 1: I'm confused, and I just don't know how authentic he is.
Speaker 1: And then you're getting So then the Sam is asked
Speaker 1: to stay longer in the radio booth. The other guy's
Speaker 1: go in another room to listen, and Sam's and.
Speaker 2: You know, the radio because they know he's a train wreck.
Speaker 2: They're like, let's keep him in there, let's go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Jen says again Jen just being about like me.
Speaker 1: She's just like, well, how is your opinion of me
Speaker 1: changed from when we first met. So now Sam goes
Speaker 1: he's just digging his own grave. He's just like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I got out of the limo and I thought this
Speaker 1: girl is not my type.
Speaker 2: He says it. And that's when so that it shows
Speaker 2: the other guys. Somebody says, damn Sam, which definitely is
Speaker 2: the name of this episode. H huh right, like, damn Sam,
Speaker 2: I mean that was amazing. I gasped, did you. I like, yes,
Speaker 2: I oughtibly gasped by myself.
Speaker 1: Yes, me too, I was like. So then he says,
Speaker 1: I thought the Bachelor it was gonna be Daisier Maria.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're stunning, you know, but but also
Speaker 1: that fades what are I.
Speaker 2: Was talking about? So he's saying, like, you're good looking too,
Speaker 2: but like you're kind of a dummy. You know. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be honest. I thought it was day Daozy yep,
Speaker 2: which you duve he should have been with Daisy. They
Speaker 2: would have been so good together. You're not going to
Speaker 2: get another Bachelor recap where I'm giving you Stanley Kubrick's
Speaker 2: two thousand and one lines. You just aren't, or we're
Speaker 2: going to brand our own names for things. The one
Speaker 2: went welcome, Yeah, okay. So Sam goes, I think, here, here,
Speaker 2: here's here's my story. I think I was meant to
Speaker 2: be here, and I'll so like I want to have
Speaker 2: kids and like be a father. So Jen goes, okay,
Speaker 2: but what about me makes you think we're right together,
Speaker 2: and he goes, you're selfless. He kept saying selfless. How
Speaker 2: do you know. She's like, how do you know I'm selfless?
Speaker 1: And he says, well, you're either selfless or you're full
Speaker 1: of shit, right, And then he goes and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day like, something you know about me
Speaker 1: is just like, let's run this up the flagpole, like
Speaker 1: I trust the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he's like, you kept me in a closet?
Speaker 2: What was that? I'm sure he's nuts. I don't know
Speaker 2: what he's saying, saying words that don't honestly don't make sense.
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, and then he goes, oh, I just
Speaker 1: realized I just figured out how you're selfless, and she's
Speaker 1: like okay, and he goes.
Speaker 2: Night one was like hot, and then the guys are like,
Speaker 2: what does that mean? He's not answering the question what
Speaker 2: is her being hot?
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with her being selfless?
Speaker 1: And then all the guys are like, I could totally
Speaker 1: answer this question right now. So then Jes says keeps
Speaker 1: saying do you feel you know me? And he's like,
Speaker 1: from early on, I was.
Speaker 2: Like we got a fuck he just grabs her head, yes, aggressively, aggressively,
Speaker 2: and it was so weird. You could tell She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: she felt it was all that was really actually kind
Speaker 2: of scary.
Speaker 1: It was so so uncomfortable. I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like the Bachelors should have given a trigger warning on
Speaker 1: that they do trigger warning. It was it felt like
Speaker 1: assault to me. It was kind of he rose. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it was her head in though, and she
Speaker 1: was clearly trying to get away from him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was really tough to watch. So
Speaker 2: now she kind of addresses it there at night and
Speaker 2: they're all sitting around and she's like, one of you
Speaker 2: guys made me a little uncomfortable. Yeah, I wonder And
Speaker 2: Sam doesn't even really get that. It's like, do you
Speaker 2: think it's Devin was like, do you think that might
Speaker 2: have been you? Bro? And Devin's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, bro. No, Sam, Devin says, do you
Speaker 2: think it might have been Sam? Yeah? Dev says that.
Speaker 2: Sam's like, I don't know, maybe could be any of us,
Speaker 2: could really be any of us? No, probably couldn't be.
Speaker 2: And it's funny too at this point because now I
Speaker 2: guess we'll get to our spoiler. But there she's talking
Speaker 2: to differferent guys and she and Grant are so damn
Speaker 2: cute together, so you know more, all the more shocking
Speaker 2: later when we find out who's eliminated. I mean, they're
Speaker 2: he's so cute, but they're cute together for a moment,
Speaker 2: like she likes him. I don't get it. I don't
Speaker 2: get it. But everybody's feeling it, Jonathan's feeling everybody's kind
Speaker 2: of Jonathan's kinda eh, he's lagging behind. For me, I'm
Speaker 2: not really feeling him.
Speaker 1: No, he's not getting a lot of time and he's
Speaker 1: not really showing personality. But so Grant's says, I'm falling
Speaker 1: in love with you, and I really mean that. And
Speaker 1: then Jen says, Grant expressed feelings of love for me,
Speaker 1: and that made me really happy. Why why you're gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of him this episode?
Speaker 2: You're just you?
Speaker 1: Just all she wants is for like I just like
Speaker 1: I love hearing about all these guys what they love
Speaker 1: about me. It makes me so happy to hear like all.
Speaker 2: She talks about. Now, that's it. So we realize at
Speaker 2: that moment we already knew this Spencer has no chance.
Speaker 2: But then we also see, like, no way Devin is
Speaker 2: not getting a rose. The way they're, the way they play,
Speaker 2: and the way talking about hometowns and stuff. She's into him.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just no question she likes him so right,
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 1: But have you noticed that every time she talks about
Speaker 1: the guys, And I mean, I know you've noticed this
Speaker 1: because we just talked about it, But like with Sam,
Speaker 1: she keeps saying like, what do you like about me?
Speaker 1: What do you like about me? But with all of them,
Speaker 1: I have never heard her say one thing about any
Speaker 1: of the guys that she likes about them specifically, except
Speaker 1: for how they make her feel exactly.
Speaker 2: It makes me feel seen.
Speaker 1: He makes me feel understood, He gets me. What about
Speaker 1: them do you like? I think she's so insecure and
Speaker 1: also has a lot of work to do. And I
Speaker 1: think she's damaged and insecure and needs to be like
Speaker 1: filled up and anything that doesn't do that is toxic.
Speaker 2: But that's even more like I don't even know what
Speaker 2: that is, not just being filled up, Because when you're
Speaker 2: like that and I'm like that, you become the guys
Speaker 2: are ever you like? So many you overlook a million
Speaker 2: things about guys, right, you overlook the stupid red because
Speaker 2: you're like, you really get into them. It's not so
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what it is, but it's
Speaker 2: it's it's like a form of narcissism that I can't
Speaker 2: quite understand because it shouldn't be all filtered on her,
Speaker 2: like she should be kind of fallen for some of
Speaker 2: these dudes. Yeah, and if she's not, then led to
Speaker 2: tell producers, look, I'm not maybe that is the first
Speaker 2: season where I'm not feeling any of them. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Well, later she's going to tell Devin that she's also
Speaker 1: falling in love with him, and.
Speaker 2: Were you weren't you just like, well, based on what
Speaker 2: like what? Yeah, I have never seen moments where like
Speaker 2: you guys haven't been through something where you're like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I you know, I saw this guy with
Speaker 2: a child or I you know, there's been nothing that
Speaker 2: she's seen about him except for things he says to her, right,
Speaker 2: and she doesn't know his backstory. She doesn't know what
Speaker 2: we know about Devin, So imagine he's kind of charming
Speaker 2: if you don't know all those things, he's charming and
Speaker 2: he's better than the other one, like she's connecting more
Speaker 2: because at least he's kind of funny or you know,
Speaker 2: they can kind of goof around. I guess I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, but so are the other guys,
Speaker 2: says Jeremy. Oh kind of we'll get what. We will
Speaker 2: get to that, and it's like literally a second okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So Jonathan's like, my feelings have skyrocketed for you,
Speaker 1: and Jen goes, Jonathan challenges me. Okay, Spencer's like, thank
Speaker 1: you for letting me know that you see me, and
Speaker 1: Jen goes, You've given me more than any of my
Speaker 1: previous relationships. And then Devin goes, I want you to
Speaker 1: know that I'm enjoying the thought of you coming home
Speaker 1: with me, Like I know who you are. Okay, Devin
Speaker 1: says a bunch of times he's like, I know who
Speaker 1: you are. I get you. Well, what what tell us
Speaker 1: one thing about her? Then none of these people. I'm
Speaker 1: not feeling invested in any of these couples like I
Speaker 1: have in past seasons because it all feels generic to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then it really gets generic because she pulls
Speaker 2: Sam again and she's like, you know, something just feels
Speaker 2: like it's missing he's so off, it's getting worse and worse,
Speaker 2: and he's flexing.
Speaker 1: His muscles and like miss kind of massaging his wrist
Speaker 1: and like making his hand go up and down.
Speaker 2: I hate somebody likes. She keeps asking, and she's getting
Speaker 2: himriled up because she's like why me, though, she keeps
Speaker 2: saying why do you like me? Why? Why? Why? It's
Speaker 2: so crazy. She goes, I don't want you to feel
Speaker 2: like I'm badgering you, but I really need to know
Speaker 2: how you feel about me, And she's totally badgering him.
Speaker 2: So then he winces in a way that's like is
Speaker 2: he in pain? Should we cut? And like make sure
Speaker 2: that like get a medic out here. I literally thought
Speaker 2: he was having a stroke. And then he starts like
Speaker 2: clearing his throat like compulsively, like he was having a stroke.
Speaker 2: Trust the process. Yes, he's malfunctioning. He's literally robot malfunctioning.
Speaker 2: And then he's like, I love you all. That's what
Speaker 2: it is. I love you all, And everyone eat you
Speaker 2: know us at home Jen Everyone's like, wait, what where'd
Speaker 2: that come from? That was crazy? That was so what
Speaker 2: a weird way to go about that. He's like, I
Speaker 2: didn't want to tell you, yet you're making me tell
Speaker 2: you I love you. Okay, Well, well you could have
Speaker 2: told her at any point. That's the whole point of
Speaker 2: the show, right.
Speaker 1: So then Jen says to camera, She's like, it just
Speaker 1: doesn't seem real. And then she says to him, she's like,
Speaker 1: you can't even express why you feel the way you feel.
Speaker 1: I think we need more time to see if we
Speaker 1: can get there. Okay, okay bye huggs.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, see yah, So no one gets a group
Speaker 2: date Rose, you know, because obviously not at this point.
Speaker 2: So okay.
Speaker 1: But then then there's scenes they shoot scenes. The guys
Speaker 1: are like sitting around gossiping, but except for Sam, who's
Speaker 1: taking a pensive walk around Seattle.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's scared. Sam is scared. He realizes he didn't
Speaker 2: like guys. I need some air. I need to just
Speaker 2: walk around in tight white T shirt and just like think,
Speaker 2: think thoughts do you get can you get a shot
Speaker 2: of my face thinking thoughts? Do I seem like I'm
Speaker 2: thinking right now? You see like a little wheel turning
Speaker 2: like on his brain. He's not doing great. Now here
Speaker 2: comes another surprise. This is why I actually didn't hate
Speaker 2: this episode. So now she has her date with Jeremy
Speaker 2: at the fish Market, which I've been to and I'm
Speaker 2: sure you have to. I don't love I don't really
Speaker 2: get the whole point of the fish market. I think
Speaker 2: it's kind of gross. It is. I think it's gross
Speaker 2: to take dead animals. Yeah, I mean these fish. Like, listen,
Speaker 2: I eat fish. I'm not saying, you know whatever, but
Speaker 2: like they are dead and they were once alive, and
Speaker 2: you're just throwing them around as a game. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: to eat them because we need to eat them and
Speaker 2: we need the nutrition like that. Maybe Okay, sure you
Speaker 2: could argue that, but yeah, I just don't like it. Sorry,
Speaker 2: And that's weird, Okay.
Speaker 1: I just had a moment in my head where I
Speaker 1: was like, and then does she eat fermented shark?
Speaker 2: And then I'm like no, that was ninety Day the
Speaker 2: other Way, which I watched. Right after it gets confusing,
Speaker 2: it does get all kind of balled up. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: Jeremy's our little a APEI QT, but he's still not
Speaker 2: doing it for me. I was so bored by him.
Speaker 2: I love his story. I mean I relate to him.
Speaker 2: We don't see people like him on the show a lot.
Speaker 2: And as two Jewises like, I know who Jeremy is,
Speaker 2: but I'm still finding him a little boring.
Speaker 1: He already shot his wad though with the I used
Speaker 1: to be fat because now he doesn't have anything, so
Speaker 1: he really doesn't.
Speaker 2: Oh he's already told her.
Speaker 1: He already trauma dumped to the best of his ability
Speaker 1: before his one on one.
Speaker 2: So I feel like the one on one was really
Speaker 2: anti climatic. It was boring. But maybe maybe it's not
Speaker 2: so bad for him to be a little boring. Maybe
Speaker 2: we're both doing the thing that we're telling Jen not
Speaker 2: to do. Hey, he has a good relationship with his family.
Speaker 2: He seems pretty chee. He's good finance bro. He's got
Speaker 2: money as he was, had fun in college. Like, maybe
Speaker 2: he's not the worst.
Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting that she's, you know, on
Speaker 1: a different date, she was really into the fact that like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm a Buddhist. You need to be okay with that,
Speaker 1: Like I want to raise my kids Buddhist.
Speaker 2: And he's like, hey, I'm.
Speaker 1: Jewish, Like I really like, at the end of the
Speaker 1: day for my kids to be you know, raised Jewish,
Speaker 1: And she's like cool, cool, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, them to like Buddhist. Oh yeah, I was I
Speaker 2: skipped the rest. I mean, we already talked about their
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you a couple of things about
Speaker 2: the rest of their days. He makes her a bouquet
Speaker 2: of flowers. Fine, that was boring. Then they go to
Speaker 2: like a psychic. Well, first there's a psychic chicken who's
Speaker 2: basically like, y'all suck. There's whatever that is. Then they
Speaker 2: go to an actual psychic who does not seem to
Speaker 2: think they're a good match either, but she's trying m mmm,
Speaker 2: you know. She'll be like, oh, your hands look like
Speaker 2: maybe you were a drummer. He's like, I was a drummer. Obviously,
Speaker 2: production told her everything right, your name's Jeremy. That just
Speaker 2: seemed But even the psychic it didn't seem like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys. She was basically like, yeah, you got some
Speaker 2: things that could work together. It's like in Bride'smaid you
Speaker 2: called some stuff. Yeah, you called some stuff. I it
Speaker 2: didn't feel like there's just no there's no passion here,
Speaker 2: but I loved Well. When we get to the night date,
Speaker 2: we have the conver Oh, Jeremy keeps making the same joke.
Speaker 2: He does it during the day and at night, and
Speaker 2: it's not a graze like, is this where you're gonna
Speaker 2: kill me? He keeps saying that, and oh my god.
Speaker 2: Four times she's sort of like you know when people
Speaker 2: make jokes that they're trying too hard and you're like
Speaker 2: ha ha yoh, but you're really annoyed. Yes, she's I
Speaker 2: feel she's at that point. Yeah, because when he says it,
Speaker 2: she just Both times she's like maybe, yeah, yeah, exact, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess maybe I kind of want to yep. But
Speaker 2: he says it in that voice like this is where
Speaker 2: you're going to kill me. I don't there's something it's
Speaker 2: just Flemy, I don't love it. Also, this is.
Speaker 1: A really small point, but when they before the night date,
Speaker 1: they sit and have some lunch and Jeremy goes so like,
Speaker 1: how was your night? You know, I wasn't there or whatever,
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, there was some confusion. She's basically
Speaker 1: telling him about the Sam thing, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that is never a good sign when you are telling
Speaker 1: like that gives me friend zone vibes. She's basically telling
Speaker 1: Jeremy about what happened with Sam.
Speaker 2: But like Jeremy can't Yeah, you're totally right, it's not
Speaker 2: going to be him, but he can't win and he
Speaker 2: can't be the Bachelor because he's too boring. As we
Speaker 2: talked about late, you know, right, you know we're almost
Speaker 2: revealing it. But I love the conversation he has about
Speaker 2: the Jewish stuff. I love that he's At first I
Speaker 2: was a little worried of like too close to mom maybe,
Speaker 2: but then it didn't feel like that I've experienced that,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't that he just loves his mom and
Speaker 2: he wants whoever he ends up with to have like
Speaker 2: kind qualities like he feels she does.
Speaker 1: I wrote then a bunch of Jewish and Buddhist talk,
Speaker 1: and this is so much healthier than those fucking Maga dudes. Yes,
Speaker 1: you just know Jeremy's liberal and sweet. And now for
Speaker 1: him that he's talking about zero chemistry, That's what I wrote.
Speaker 2: Zero chemistry. But I love that he's talking about it
Speaker 2: like a great grandfather, you know, died. He tries to
Speaker 2: say World War Two, he doesn't say Holocaust. I know
Speaker 2: he wants to, and she sort of kind of has
Speaker 2: this like really like she's so shocked. You're like, look
Speaker 2: if you meet and she does have a lot of
Speaker 2: Jewish friends. I love that she started, She's like, I
Speaker 2: do shippat and she knows all the words and stuff.
Speaker 2: I thought that was cute. But look, you know, ask
Speaker 2: any of them. We almost all have.
Speaker 1: A relative that died in the Hololaust. We're going to
Speaker 1: say the word Holocaust.
Speaker 2: Say the word. And it's not Jeremy's fault. I'm sure
Speaker 2: he was told not to and he had to say
Speaker 2: world where. Maybe he softened it for her, But I
Speaker 2: love that he brought it up. I've never seen that
Speaker 2: done on The Bachelor. I liked it to same. Yeah, okay, agreed,
Speaker 2: because that's the thing guys. You know so so John
Speaker 2: the Hotel Monaco Jen.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we saw this at the beginning of the episode.
Speaker 1: They teased to it that Jen was gonna.
Speaker 2: Storm in where Sam I need to talk to him,
Speaker 2: so you would think that she found out some information
Speaker 2: about him. She said he had a girlfriend that we
Speaker 2: know about. Yeah, that's how they tease it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's so stupid. This is what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: where there's no actual drama. It's like just trumped up,
Speaker 1: like oh, when did she suddenly get a bug that like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've got to confront him right now, confront him about what.
Speaker 2: I think it was maybe an editing. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: because it didn't really I'm sure there was more to it.
Speaker 2: She was getting herself worked up. It should have shown
Speaker 2: her more like explaining to her producer, like, I just
Speaker 2: think he's fucked me over this whole time by pretending
Speaker 2: to be someone he wasn't. Maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 2: They don't show that. Instead, she's just storming into his
Speaker 2: walks right in. She doesn't even knock, Well, she does knock,
Speaker 2: he doesn't answer, and then she just opens.
Speaker 1: The doors in and like goes and like confronts him.
Speaker 1: But there's already a cameraman in his room, so he
Speaker 1: knew she was coming.
Speaker 2: Good call. Yeah, so she like, I thought that was odd,
Speaker 2: And he's nervous. He's like putting on his neck dye.
Speaker 2: What if he was just masturbating? They just and they production.
Speaker 1: Knew, like ck though, He's like, I've been waiting for you.
Speaker 1: I was hoping you'd be here. I need someone to
Speaker 1: masturbate in front of.
Speaker 2: I sent you a little note through production, would it
Speaker 2: be okay? Did I have your consent to masturbate in
Speaker 2: front of you? And you said, yeah, why are you
Speaker 2: being like this, why are you being so fixing his
Speaker 2: neck tie. He's like, oh, oh am I canceled. Now,
Speaker 2: oh are you going to cancel me? Fucking bitch. But
Speaker 2: he finally says she's like, what are you feeling? He's like,
Speaker 2: I'm nervous, you know, I'm kind of terrified. I think,
Speaker 2: he says is the word he uses, but then he
Speaker 2: starts his word salad again. Love is a sacrifice blob,
Speaker 2: I mean just non sense again. Right, He's like, love
Speaker 2: is patient, love is kind. Uh, let me look up
Speaker 2: the Webster's Dictionary definition. Love is all you need. I
Speaker 2: believe I'm the one who said that. It's always call
Speaker 2: youing the person, the only person that I see. Hmm,
Speaker 2: all you need is love. I just wrote, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is insanity. The more he talks, the less sense
Speaker 2: he makes. But Jim does not. She just she goes.
Speaker 2: She keeps saying this over.
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't know, like you're saying all these things,
Speaker 1: but I don't really believe it.
Speaker 2: But what is she even believing or not believing because
Speaker 2: he's not saying anything. It's not like he's saying the
Speaker 2: right thing right, Like he says something like oh like
Speaker 2: you know, I love you, but the truth is, like
Speaker 2: a lot of people have what you have. He says that, yes,
Speaker 2: you know, you have a lot of things I like,
Speaker 2: but you know a lot of people out there have that.
Speaker 2: Like he cannot He's so terrible that he can't contain it.
Speaker 2: So even when he's trying to say all the right things,
Speaker 2: just every wrong thing comes out, which is what he
Speaker 2: really thinks. This is what's not even attacked to her.
Speaker 2: This is what he says, word for word.
Speaker 1: He goes, I mean, I could go on about your
Speaker 1: passion for love, your desire for want to the family,
Speaker 1: but the truth is there are tons of other women
Speaker 1: with those same characteristics as you.
Speaker 2: I've had those people in front of me.
Speaker 1: But I feel like you're waiting for answers, like with words. Anyway,
Speaker 1: here's my story. I stepped out of the limo and
Speaker 1: your energy soothed my soul. Anyway, this is the real
Speaker 1: story though, when you did cheers to ferocious love, like
Speaker 1: I felt that, like I felt that, yes, And then
Speaker 1: Jen goes, this is a script, and he goes love,
Speaker 1: He's still malfunctioning.
Speaker 2: He's just like doesn't here.
Speaker 1: He's like, love is a feeling that you can't like
Speaker 1: go a day without the person, like, oh, then the
Speaker 1: next time I saw you, I took the biggest breath
Speaker 1: of air and I felt life again.
Speaker 2: I felt alive.
Speaker 1: But then really where everything switched to me was the
Speaker 1: whole stripping thing, like you poured into my emotional soul.
Speaker 2: What it's insane a tea, it is dazy days. She goes, okay,
Speaker 2: wait on our one and on one on our one
Speaker 2: oh one, what did you learn about me? And he goes,
Speaker 2: I get that you yearn for a love so powerful
Speaker 2: it burns like a hundred sons. You have no idea
Speaker 2: how much I appreciate you. I love you, and she goes, okay,
Speaker 2: but to love someone you have to understand them, and
Speaker 2: he goes, you saw the best in me when I
Speaker 2: didn't even see it in myself. Yeah, it's just spitting
Speaker 2: out affirmations nonsensically, And finally she's like, okay, I can't
Speaker 2: now you're insane.
Speaker 1: So she watchs out and she tells the producer. She's
Speaker 1: still confused though, which is upsetting to me. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like he's saying all these things and
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 2: Just don't know.
Speaker 1: He's not really telling me like what he likes about me. M.
Speaker 1: So then she goes back in. Well, the guys all
Speaker 1: discuss how, oh this was interesting. So the guys are
Speaker 1: all like, yeah, she's pissed, like you don't come in
Speaker 1: like if it's something good. But Grant points out he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it does mean she cares, right, Like, you don't
Speaker 1: get that upset if you don't care about the person, right.
Speaker 1: So then Jen goes back in for more m and
Speaker 1: she's like, it's been like a confusing week and like
Speaker 1: a really confusing journey, and like I really wanted to
Speaker 1: it to be real, but like you didn't even ask me,
Speaker 1: Like you didn't even talk to me about what I
Speaker 1: need from you.
Speaker 2: I need Mara from yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Then Sam goes, you didn't even listen to one thing
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: Which is not wrong about that. At that point he
Speaker 2: says one real thing, which is like they're both this
Speaker 2: is just awful, right, So then she's like, okay, Like
Speaker 2: this literally reminds me of a relationship that I put
Speaker 2: in the past. It was like toxic. So I'm done
Speaker 2: with this.
Speaker 1: I'm done teaching people how to love me and how
Speaker 1: to prioritize me, I'm done.
Speaker 2: She's she's really downplaying. I mean, if it were us,
Speaker 2: let's say we were in gen Spot and we were
Speaker 2: really attracted this guy he had like he had chemistry,
Speaker 2: but then he was malfunctioned for a whole day and
Speaker 2: we saw the real guy. We really say that, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, you are in sane you may maybe she's
Speaker 2: just trying to be nice, like sorry, it's just not you. Bye.
Speaker 2: Maybe she can't just say like, are you some kind
Speaker 2: of dummy? She can't say that, right right right? So then.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then Sam goes and he starts packing, but
Speaker 1: he's mostly already packed, which I thought was weird.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I didn't notice that he's all his suit cases
Speaker 2: are packed.
Speaker 1: So then so then Sam tells us like, you know what,
Speaker 1: not my fault. None of this is my fault, and
Speaker 1: I'm always going to keep the main thing the main thing,
Speaker 1: And this is something that I will stand like ten
Speaker 1: toes down like it is what it is, like I'll
Speaker 1: run that up the flagpole.
Speaker 2: You know what? He should have said that could have
Speaker 2: nothing could save Sam at this point. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry if his parents are listening, I know they don't
Speaker 2: like this, but you know, he dug he dug this,
Speaker 2: But I I think he could have said, like, I'm really,
Speaker 2: you know, just not good with words. I don't express
Speaker 2: myself that way like off, you know, after he was off,
Speaker 2: just say like I'm just you know, even say something
Speaker 2: like I have a phasia, say some use of one
Speaker 2: of the things that everybody uses my ADHD I to
Speaker 2: say something to just say because then people will go, hey, well,
Speaker 2: well that's relatable. It is hard to talk sometimes, like
Speaker 2: we do get flustered, right, But he couldn't even do
Speaker 2: that because he's like such an asshole. Yeah, so off
Speaker 2: he goes, Thank God, good call Jen. Finally, so now
Speaker 2: it's time for the final roses. And I had no idea.
Speaker 2: Now it's time for the rose ceremony. We know Jeremy
Speaker 2: and Marcus to already have roses. So at this point,
Speaker 2: who did you think? Who did you think the other
Speaker 2: two hometowns were going to be?
Speaker 1: Well, I thought that Grant was going to get one.
Speaker 1: I thought Grant, and I thought Devin. Yeah, she was
Speaker 1: falling in love with them. So I was like, well,
Speaker 1: he's going to get one. I did not think Jonathan.
Speaker 2: I agree, I one hundred percent agree. I thought for
Speaker 2: sure it was going to be Grant and Devon, but
Speaker 2: I guess Grant didn't get a lot of time whatever.
Speaker 2: I was shocked. I was like, what the fuck? So
Speaker 2: really so no Grant. I thought maybe even for a
Speaker 2: second when she called Jonathan con then Jonathan, and then
Speaker 2: I thought that she was going to add a hometown
Speaker 2: because they have done that. They've done where they've done
Speaker 2: five I think once, and they've done three where they're like, look,
Speaker 2: I don't have enough for four, so let's just you know,
Speaker 2: they've switched it up. I thought for sure Grant would
Speaker 2: get one. But no, no Grant, no Spencer obviously, so
Speaker 2: then Grant. So Spencer calls his mom and that was
Speaker 2: excruciating for me. Oh baby, oh baby, oh baby, baby,
Speaker 2: baby baby, and he doesn't even know. He's like, they're
Speaker 2: sending me home, which is not the same thing as
Speaker 2: Jen just broke up with me. Those are two different statements.
Speaker 2: We forget how stupid the show is because it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: it's like you're getting sent home from camp. Really has
Speaker 2: even do with her? Yes, yes, b b oh no,
Speaker 2: my baby old baby. No, but he's out. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's it. There.
Speaker 1: We go there, you have it. Yeah, so the news
Speaker 1: is that Grant has been chosen as the bachelor. He's
Speaker 1: going to be our next bachelor, which he's gorgeous. Seems fine.
Speaker 1: I did see, and I know you're not going to
Speaker 1: like this that I'm already pointing this stuff out. But
Speaker 1: he did use the F slur. He called somebody an
Speaker 1: f slur on Twitter. Granted, yes he did, but it
Speaker 1: was in twenty sixteen. But to me, I feel like
Speaker 1: that wasn't that long ago to be doing that. You know,
Speaker 1: you could say he was a lot younger and maybe
Speaker 1: whatever it was just boys being boys.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Not great. No, I don't love
Speaker 2: that one bit. But I you know, he was my
Speaker 2: pick from the beginning. He was my guy to win.
Speaker 2: Remember in art that I was wrong about that. I
Speaker 2: thought he was going to be in final two. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see how that goes. I don't mind the pick.
Speaker 2: I don't like what you've just told me. I don't
Speaker 2: love that. But it's like he was really a lot younger.
Speaker 2: I don't know how old he is now, but I mean,
Speaker 2: how old was Kevin Hart when he said it on Twitter?
Speaker 2: He was not seventeen? Yeah, Well, I don't really think
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart's great either. I meanology he owned it, apologized
Speaker 2: and said, you know, and same with James Gunn. There's
Speaker 2: all kinds of people where like, yeah, they go, we're
Speaker 2: just using a word. Yeah, people used, but it's not
Speaker 2: it doesn't make it okay, And I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so he's not going to think about yeah.
Speaker 1: So here, but here's the thing what you and I
Speaker 1: were saying. So it's weird that Grant didn't get a hometown.
Speaker 2: I know why because.
Speaker 1: Producers were thinking about making him the Bachelor. And this
Speaker 1: is a weird rollout, by the way. So and you
Speaker 1: and I were talking before the thing, like who else
Speaker 1: could it be? Because it's not going to be Devon
Speaker 1: too much we know about him behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: H Jeremy. No, Jeremy's too boring, Devon's too problematic. Maybe
Speaker 2: Jonathan could have been, but maybe she's going to choose
Speaker 2: Jonathan or Devin because again she does not know the
Speaker 2: behind the scenes yet, right, So it just seems like,
Speaker 2: if you are thinking, if Grant's even in contention, why
Speaker 2: not have him go to hometown so we can get
Speaker 2: to know his family and like him. I guess he
Speaker 2: wasn't really in content. I mean, I think she just
Speaker 2: wasn't into him right, and or they made a deal
Speaker 2: where it's like, I really like you, but it's not
Speaker 2: going to be you. So but you're right if that
Speaker 2: was the case. I said that before and messed up.
Speaker 2: Because if she really liked him and wanted him to
Speaker 2: be the next Bachelor, which I do believe they do
Speaker 2: for each other one hundred percent of I agree, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they would, she'd bring him along to three at least hometowns.
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, weird. I don't know, but he's the net.
Speaker 2: We have our next Bachelor already, so we know the
Speaker 2: show is continuing. Yes, yes, yeah, we got a hometowns.
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