Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen.
Speaker 2: ESO, what's going to happen?
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Speaker 4: I welcome to the Occult Rejects.
Speaker 5: This episode, we got a returning guest, somebody I always
Speaker 5: love having on and I think he does some great
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Speaker 4: We got Brooke. What is going on? Brooke? How are you?
Speaker 6: I'm good?
Speaker 7: Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here
Speaker 7: and talk to Joey tonight. As always, you can find
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Speaker 7: and the Occult Rejects will also have a booth there,
Speaker 7: so even more of the reason to come. Thank you
Speaker 7: for having me tonight.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Eliah, No, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 5: We will be right next to her. We got booth
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Speaker 4: But uh yeah, definitely. Yeah, there you go, man.
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Speaker 4: Sir? How are you?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Hey?
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Speaker 2: you know I love that. Joey is glad. I'm glad
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Speaker 2: because like I said earlier, every day you learned something new,
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Speaker 8: Speaking of which, real quick send me a link or
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Speaker 5: All right, awesome, thank you, and thank you for joining
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Speaker 2: If you don't know who is you?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 6: Jah? The last time you hit me up.
Speaker 1: I was in the middle of this of this book,
Speaker 1: this mysticism in the New Physics, and you guys know,
Speaker 1: Michael Talbot wrote Holographic Universe, which is a good book,
Speaker 1: but this one blows it out of the water.
Speaker 6: And this one came out ten years before that.
Speaker 8: But around the same time as I was reading this,
Speaker 8: I was kind of sharing this DMT experience that I
Speaker 8: had with some of my viewers that kind of was
Speaker 8: a game changer for me. And this kind of goes
Speaker 8: into something, but I had this DMT experience that.
Speaker 6: Very roughly speaking, very quickly speaking.
Speaker 8: These these insects, swarms of like elf insects, were building
Speaker 8: reality and this is kind of typical. But I went
Speaker 8: into it like absolutely insisting that I didn't break concentration,
Speaker 8: because kind of like going into a dream, with DMT,
Speaker 8: often you get lost in the wonderment, you forget that
Speaker 8: you're actually tripping. So I went in there like concentrating,
Speaker 8: trying to make sure that I didn't. I was like,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get a hold of one of these guys
Speaker 8: and I'm gonna get I'm gonna question them, right, And
Speaker 8: I've tried this a hundred times, but this time it
Speaker 8: actually worked, and uh, they're swarming around building reality on
Speaker 8: the other side of our reality.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, hey, what's going on here? Why are
Speaker 6: y'all doing this?
Speaker 8: And one of them and he was like swinging around
Speaker 8: and as he was speaking, but he was like, whenever
Speaker 8: you like what we build, you call.
Speaker 6: Us angels, and whenever you don't like what we build,
Speaker 6: you call us demons.
Speaker 8: But we're the same things, and we just build whatever
Speaker 8: you're thinking of, whatever is in your mind, is what
Speaker 8: we make. And then he's like, why would you ever
Speaker 8: have a bad thought if.
Speaker 6: You know we got to build these things.
Speaker 8: And there's a lot more to it than that, but
Speaker 8: that's kind of what is necessary.
Speaker 6: Going into.
Speaker 8: A long time ago researching plasma, I found that plasma
Speaker 8: can create its own dust, and especially in laboratory settings, right,
Speaker 8: So I was trying to figure out, like, where does
Speaker 8: the material come from for this plasma to create its
Speaker 8: own dust, And it turns out nothing. It doesn't need
Speaker 8: anything because atoms what make up material doesn't exist in
Speaker 8: the first place. It's just empty space. It's just a
Speaker 8: packet of enough energy. So plasma creating its own dust
Speaker 8: is literally making.
Speaker 6: Something out of nothing.
Speaker 8: And to create its own dust, it seemed to be
Speaker 8: elusive in the labs they were Russians were trying to
Speaker 8: weaponize plasma, but the plasma and I quote, would not
Speaker 8: cooperate in the laboratory. If they find dust, they have
Speaker 8: to scrap everything. So this plasma would seemingly on purpose
Speaker 8: create dust at the wrong when it needed a particular
Speaker 8: like result, and they have to grap the whole experiment
Speaker 8: until they eventually gave up on it. So, knowing that
Speaker 8: plasma creates its own dust, I was watching some material
Speaker 8: by Thunderbolts projects the electric universe theory basically, and the
Speaker 8: leading theory.
Speaker 6: In that that beats the hell out.
Speaker 8: Of our mechanical universe model currently is that suns create
Speaker 8: they give birth to plants.
Speaker 6: Right, so far, we've been taught.
Speaker 8: In school that that planets are caught by suns and
Speaker 8: they end up in the orbit, which leads to a
Speaker 8: huge hole, begging the question where do planets come from
Speaker 8: in the first place? Then, But in the electric universe model,
Speaker 8: suns give birth to planets. And I'm it was like
Speaker 8: a year of that in the back of my head
Speaker 8: before I realized that's the same thing asthma creating its
Speaker 8: own dust and labs is the same thing as a
Speaker 8: star giving birth to a planet. As above so below,
Speaker 8: that's the same happening. And as soon as I realized
Speaker 8: those two things, it hit me pretty much all at once.
Speaker 8: And it's still like a working theory. I'm still trying
Speaker 8: to pan it all out. But in the Gnostic Gospels,
Speaker 8: like the Apocrypha of John and particularly the Pista Sophia,
Speaker 8: Sophia is one of the.
Speaker 6: Emanations of the Abyss. She's one of the eons. She's
Speaker 6: ethereal or plasma, if you will.
Speaker 8: She gives birth to a demi r ghost, and the
Speaker 8: demiurgos is what's responsible for our material realm. She even
Speaker 8: insists that, like the mineral world, which is conscious, needs
Speaker 8: to be saved due to this syntax error of Sophia
Speaker 8: giving birth to this demiurgos, right, and the Demiurgos is,
Speaker 8: of course, like responsible for the fis is a cool,
Speaker 8: tangible universe that we see and consents that the rest
Speaker 8: of which we are blind to is the realm of Sofia.
Speaker 8: But that realm is here with us right now, just
Speaker 8: as much as this material realm is.
Speaker 6: I can't help but think that.
Speaker 8: That's also the same thing as plasma giving birth to dust,
Speaker 8: or stars giving birth to planets, or sofia giving birth.
Speaker 6: To the demi ergos.
Speaker 8: And when you when you look at all three of those,
Speaker 8: it ties directly to the Daoist concepts of Zen.
Speaker 6: And the Nada and bindu of Zen.
Speaker 8: Literature is literally a particle and a wave of our
Speaker 8: of our understanding.
Speaker 9: And if you can imagine pretty much from there, that
Speaker 9: umbrella opens up to so much that I'm trying to
Speaker 9: at this point keep up with myself because trying to
Speaker 9: find the little gets of hard evidence for this it
Speaker 9: is so elusive that it can be really aggravating.
Speaker 5: Well, one thing I definitely think is that when it
Speaker 5: comes to occultism and esotericism, there's a lot of science
Speaker 5: behind it, right. You know, it wouldn't make sense to
Speaker 5: people because you think this stuff is old and that
Speaker 5: you know, they were playing with twigs at that time
Speaker 5: and just drowing shit in the sand, you know, but
Speaker 5: it wasn't like that. So in my opinion, it's like haw,
Speaker 5: it's even call you know, that's impossible because you know
Speaker 5: they were just monkeys, you know, banging things around.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But like I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 5: And uh, I mean even the fact, I mean, we
Speaker 5: have plasma in our blood, and I just even with that,
Speaker 5: I mean, it's stop thinking about like what is it
Speaker 5: even plasma?
Speaker 4: You know? When I when I had you know, I've
Speaker 4: mentioned on the.
Speaker 5: Show a few times that I, you know, I think
Speaker 5: I've crossed the abyss or I've had a magical experience.
Speaker 5: And I at one point I was kind of abusing,
Speaker 5: abusing the situation, I guess, and did it like three
Speaker 5: times in a week, and I wasn't feeling too good,
Speaker 5: so to move wrong yea, And I went to the
Speaker 5: hospital because I actually didn't feel good, man, Like I
Speaker 5: literally my eyesight was getting fucked up. I felt like
Speaker 5: my head was gonna pop. I felt like electricity going
Speaker 5: up and down my legs. I was like, oh, something
Speaker 5: fuck is wrong, man. So I went there. I didn't
Speaker 5: really even know what to tell them. I mean, eventually
Speaker 5: I told two of the doctors the truth, but at
Speaker 5: first I was just like, I don't feel good, blah
Speaker 5: blah blah. Oh my eyes, my eyes were fucked up.
Speaker 5: My one pupil was blown out, one was fucking tiny.
Speaker 5: Like I've said that before, every time I fuck with magic,
Speaker 5: when one pupil gets bigg and my other one gets small.
Speaker 5: I had that going.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: They didn't know what the fuck that was. Eventually they
Speaker 5: didn't know what the hell was wrong with my eyes.
Speaker 5: They didn't understand they had problems too. They tossed that
Speaker 5: up to migraines that I've never had before, and I
Speaker 5: never took the medicine. I was like, it's not migraines,
Speaker 5: but whatever they said. I had a blood issue that
Speaker 5: just seemed to pop up. And they did say that
Speaker 5: sometimes people they get this in their older age. They
Speaker 5: don't even know why, and you'll just have to go
Speaker 5: every once in a month and get like a bag
Speaker 5: of blood to than you will what basically, what they're
Speaker 5: saying is that my blood was really thick, and the
Speaker 5: hemoglobin level was instead of thirteen or fourteen, it was
Speaker 5: jacked up to like nineteen point six, and something something
Speaker 5: to do in there with all that plasma does come up.
Speaker 5: So I have wonder, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Technically that's kind of like light in a sense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like so.
Speaker 8: In the Nastic Gospels, Sophia imbused her creation with her
Speaker 8: own divine light which under many names, you know, ether, plasma, prana, shakti, right.
Speaker 6: She she pity is.
Speaker 8: The wrong word, but she sees that there are beings
Speaker 8: in this realm that reflect her realm, the pleurroma, and
Speaker 8: she didn't feel She feels like it's not fair for
Speaker 8: these beings to remain animals, so they imbue them.
Speaker 6: She imbused them with.
Speaker 8: Her life force or her light, which I feel like
Speaker 8: the term analogy that they used back then are the
Speaker 8: same as ours that we have today.
Speaker 6: And I think that we are a reflection.
Speaker 8: Of Sophia, literally the mother of God.
Speaker 6: And now I don't.
Speaker 8: Know exactly the relationship of plasma and blood to plasma
Speaker 8: and TVs plasma in space the Korleski clouds. I think
Speaker 8: that plasma is kind of an umbrella term for a
Speaker 8: lot of different things that we can't see.
Speaker 6: But if you condense it enough and you pocket it enough.
Speaker 8: It becomes visible, like ball lightning, well regular lightning.
Speaker 6: Fire, things like that.
Speaker 8: When you get plasma excited, it does crazy things.
Speaker 6: And I wonder if like Kalini for.
Speaker 8: Example, is a form of plasma, because what we have
Speaker 8: going on within us is what the universe has going on.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's almost self explanatory. We are the universe
Speaker 8: experiencing itself. So the idea that inanimate matters became living matter,
Speaker 8: to me is so absurd that it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6: There has to be some kind of reflection of the above.
Speaker 8: In fact, in the pist of Sophia it uses the
Speaker 8: word reflection.
Speaker 6: It says to uh, I see it there.
Speaker 8: It says that Sophia reflected herself into the murky depths,
Speaker 8: and that's how we are animate right now. So the
Speaker 8: blood seems to be the key there. And that's where
Speaker 8: it gets kind of confusing, because DNA is a code.
Speaker 6: That we have not figured out yet, and there's.
Speaker 8: A whole bunch of so called junk in there that
Speaker 8: we just can't seem to read. And that's why we
Speaker 8: call it junk, by the way, it is, because we
Speaker 8: can't figure it out.
Speaker 7: So would you say that you kind of believe that
Speaker 7: plasma is a form of consciousness or that it has
Speaker 7: its own consciousness, because I've often wondered that. And then
Speaker 7: I know with some of the drones that we were
Speaker 7: seeing New Jersey Air quotes sun drones, I think there
Speaker 7: are a couple of different things happening there. But at
Speaker 7: some point some people recorded what they described as plasma
Speaker 7: in the sky, and it was very intelligent and it
Speaker 7: did have this consciousness to it. So it's interesting that
Speaker 7: you say, oh, when they got to a specific part
Speaker 7: in the experiment, then it starts producing this dust. It's
Speaker 7: almost like there is some level of intelligence there, like
Speaker 7: on purpose.
Speaker 8: Not only do I think that plasma is a vehicle
Speaker 8: for consciousness, but I think that it is the epitome
Speaker 8: of vehicular consciousness because I think that consciousness varies in
Speaker 8: degree depending on density. And so this is something that
Speaker 8: is almost again also self explanatory if you really think
Speaker 8: about it enough. But there's a knot. There's not enough
Speaker 8: mainstream science looking into it to actually verify anything, but
Speaker 8: think about density consciousness, right. Just an easy example would
Speaker 8: be how light and spongy our brain is compared to
Speaker 8: our to bone. So if you look at stories of
Speaker 8: the rainbow body, these dun masters, whenever they became this
Speaker 8: particular level of awareness, like a particular level of consciousness,
Speaker 8: of sentient awareness, they would develop the rainbow body, where
Speaker 8: the atoms in their vehicle were no longer hard and
Speaker 8: heavy material anymore. They were etheric beings, and the idea
Speaker 8: of etheric beings goes back.
Speaker 6: I mean as long as history does.
Speaker 8: They used to take on statues in sume Aria to
Speaker 8: be spoken with with human beings. I feel like plasma,
Speaker 8: being the least dense of our four states of matter,
Speaker 8: would because look what dusty complex plasmas are, right, They're
Speaker 8: not atoms. They're made out of individual particles. They're basically
Speaker 8: pro charged particles that have not become heavy enough.
Speaker 6: To accumulate into atoms.
Speaker 8: So the complexity of those goes way beyond anything that
Speaker 8: the neurons in the brain are. So to say that
Speaker 8: plasma can retain memory is already done. We have technology
Speaker 8: doing that now. To say that plasma can think, that's
Speaker 8: already done, because we're also utilizing that with AI today.
Speaker 8: The last step we have to confront is the hardest one,
Speaker 8: but also I think self evident. It's that plasma can
Speaker 8: do things on purpose, and it can do things with intention,
Speaker 8: and it has free will. Here's the problem, though, its
Speaker 8: intentions are going to be so utterly abstract from what
Speaker 8: we are used.
Speaker 6: To that it won't make sense to us.
Speaker 8: So look how limited we are and how we live,
Speaker 8: no matter how complex human life is. We have one
Speaker 8: primary goal to resist pain. So we need to eat,
Speaker 8: and we have to eat suffering by the way, to
Speaker 8: sustain ourselves.
Speaker 6: Something has to die for us to eat. That's an
Speaker 6: important thing to remember.
Speaker 8: So if etherical beings need to eat, they have to
Speaker 8: eat suffering too. This is the snake eating its tail.
Speaker 8: This is the cycle of some sorrow. That's just the
Speaker 8: way it sucks. But that's the way it is. Something
Speaker 8: has to die for us to eat. So if you
Speaker 8: think about if it's conscious, it's.
Speaker 6: Going to feed on other forms of consciousness. And that sounds.
Speaker 8: Negative, but it might not be if we just kind
Speaker 8: of accept our place in the food chain. This is
Speaker 8: where it gets really tricky though, because people will do
Speaker 8: anything anything rather than confront themselves being in the middle
Speaker 8: of the food chain rather than at the top of
Speaker 8: it and being at the top of the food chain
Speaker 8: as honestly, what's held us back scientifically and spiritually for
Speaker 8: thousands of years.
Speaker 2: And let me ask you something, do you know who
Speaker 2: TMT is? Because you mentioned the Marians, so youm I.
Speaker 8: Would be the dragon, Yeah, the water dragon of uh
Speaker 8: Marian mythology. Yeah, defeated by Marduke. Yeah, I think that
Speaker 8: that story too might be uh, just one of the
Speaker 8: many retellings of what we're I've been citing with the
Speaker 8: host literature lately. But that's just kind of this week's flavor,
Speaker 8: you know, because the same story is told in mythology.
Speaker 8: I mean, so speaking of plasma and water beings, Tiamat
Speaker 8: and whatnot, I mean in uh in Arabic culture, we
Speaker 8: have jin but with a D and they say.
Speaker 6: That's where the genie comes from. Right, So these beings
Speaker 6: are obviously powerful.
Speaker 8: They have intentions and complexities that we can't even imagine,
Speaker 8: So to get into their heads is going to be impossible.
Speaker 8: But like King Solomon did, we can harness that power.
Speaker 8: I don't know how Nick might be able to teach
Speaker 8: us how if he can resist go into the hospital
Speaker 8: for a couple of months with the magic there, But
Speaker 8: that's something I don't ever touch. But they exist, and
Speaker 8: more importantly, we can become that before we die.
Speaker 6: That's the idea of the rainbow body, and.
Speaker 8: In Tibetan literature is that.
Speaker 6: That's kind of the ultimate attainment.
Speaker 8: Well, of course, look at Jesus Christ. When Jesus Christ
Speaker 8: came back after his resurrection. The first dude he saw
Speaker 8: was Paul. Paul didn't recognize them.
Speaker 6: Paul saw a luminous vapor. Dude.
Speaker 8: I mean, how many other cultures have to mention this
Speaker 8: idea of plasmatic sentience before science gets their shit together
Speaker 8: and says, maybe lifeforms are not just inhibited to the
Speaker 8: human vehicle, and maybe this human vehicle is just one
Speaker 8: of many stops that we've got to make, you know,
Speaker 8: along the way with our own personal journeys. Our personal
Speaker 8: journeys that again, like pismatic sentience might be so complex
Speaker 8: that we we have no idea what the end game is.
Speaker 8: People talk about it being a school. People talk about it,
Speaker 8: you know, learning lessons or whatever. Some people say that
Speaker 8: there's a soul recycler and we are a slave to
Speaker 8: a reptilian species.
Speaker 6: I don't know which of these.
Speaker 8: It might be so complex that we ain't gonna know
Speaker 8: about it until we shed the skin.
Speaker 5: You know, I agree with that we'll get some answers
Speaker 5: when you shod the skin. For sure, Man, it might
Speaker 5: be answers. You don't want to either, keep that in mind, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that it might not be answers.
Speaker 4: You will you might, well, you weren't ready.
Speaker 2: Definitely probably more than like you that you ain't ready
Speaker 2: for You're definitely right about that.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 8: I've been having trouble lately with the whole concept of
Speaker 8: the black Cube soul recycler because well, first of all,
Speaker 8: I I accidentally put a huge dance into that boat
Speaker 8: right off the bat with my YouTube career.
Speaker 6: But you know, people took it more and more literally.
Speaker 6: But the idea that we.
Speaker 8: Are recycled not on our own accord, is very disturbing.
Speaker 8: And if there's anything you know, these governments talk about
Speaker 8: UFO disclosure and alien intelligent they say, no, we can't
Speaker 8: disclose anything because humanity will go into a chaos. And
Speaker 8: then one quickly retorts with, dude, no, you've been saying
Speaker 8: aliens are in the ocean. You've been saying Atlas three
Speaker 8: is an alien. No one gives a fuck anymore, No
Speaker 8: one cares. We can handle it, give it to us.
Speaker 8: But then they're like, no, oh, no, you're not ready
Speaker 8: for it. What else could it be?
Speaker 6: But I digress, because.
Speaker 2: Tapping into your inner god and doing shit that they
Speaker 2: don't want you to do, like probably like you know,
Speaker 2: consciously leaving your body where you can do astro projection,
Speaker 2: and you can you know, train your body to control
Speaker 2: your dreams, which would be lucid dreaming. You know, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, I think about that a lot too.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 2: Okay, as much money as NASA and US taxpayers pay
Speaker 2: to NASA and all these government officials to look for
Speaker 2: life outside of Earth, we fail to look for new
Speaker 2: species in life within Earth, meaning that we know more
Speaker 2: or this is what they say scientifically, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: this is what they say. They say we know more
Speaker 2: about our space than we know about our own oceans.
Speaker 2: Now you mentioned something about like what you would what
Speaker 2: we would describe as us sols. Now I have been
Speaker 2: saying this for almost five years now. The Anna slash
Speaker 2: the Ananaki do not come from a planet named Niberal. Okay,
Speaker 2: if you read their actual text for themselves, if you
Speaker 2: go to the Cuneiform Culture Handbook, if you go to
Speaker 2: the electronic text Corpus of Sumerian Literature, you go to
Speaker 2: the Cuniform Digital Library of Initiative, it literally says they
Speaker 2: come from the sea. That's why Inky was the ruler
Speaker 2: of the Abzu, ruler of either what is known as
Speaker 2: fresh water or the ocean. Literally, he came from the
Speaker 2: waters to give humanity knowledge. That's why he's that's why
Speaker 2: he's depicted as a fish god. Right, because when you're
Speaker 2: when you're doingguage and it's in its most simplest form
Speaker 2: and the most easiest way for somebody to understand it,
Speaker 2: you're going to depict it so somebody canna understand it.
Speaker 2: So if somebody says, hey, I got a picture of
Speaker 2: a guy in a fish suit, what would that represent. Well,
Speaker 2: he has to be in control of water. There's depictions
Speaker 2: of him with water streams coming out from his shoulders.
Speaker 2: This was a water god. This is the god that
Speaker 2: actually created humans. According to the Sumerian, Nkadians, every Mesopotamian,
Speaker 2: and even the Babylonians. The Bible, the Holy Bible itself,
Speaker 2: Incy is supposedly the individual who created humans. Now Inky
Speaker 2: in the Bible is not Incy. He's a different god.
Speaker 2: God of course, God with a capital J. But also
Speaker 2: but the thing is is that what's also amazing about
Speaker 2: this is the fact that the text actually says he
Speaker 2: comes from these individuals come from the water. Now, water
Speaker 2: has been a sustaining part of our life forever. Right,
Speaker 2: The Garden of Eden had the most tasteful, beautiful water
Speaker 2: in the world. Right, it was for fertility, agriculture. Everything
Speaker 2: we do has water around it. You know, every civilization
Speaker 2: that started around thirty two hundred BC. Of what we
Speaker 2: call modern academic science with their you know, radiocarbon dating
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, they say civilizations started around thirty
Speaker 2: two hundred BC. But we know there's also civilizations that
Speaker 2: are un the water. So we know that there are
Speaker 2: older ones, right, we just can't date those right now.
Speaker 2: And it's just amazing to me that, you know, we
Speaker 2: done got to the point where people believe one person
Speaker 2: in their text versus what's actually written in the text.
Speaker 2: If you're like and I say, Zachari Sitchen has told
Speaker 2: people that Adanaki came from a planet named Nibru since
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six. Since nineteen seventy six, people have been
Speaker 2: believed in that same shit, right when we have text
Speaker 2: that says otherwise.
Speaker 8: Literally no, I so I tackled this a while back.
Speaker 8: I'm glad you said it. Zacharia Sitchion was not a translator,
Speaker 8: nor did he do justice to those texts, and he
Speaker 8: has created so many Billy Carson's ever said. And it's
Speaker 8: a problem. It's all these David will Cox and all
Speaker 8: these guys. They just repeat what Zachariah Sitionen said.
Speaker 6: And he didn't know that, dude. He was a sci
Speaker 6: fi writer.
Speaker 8: And yeah, so, but you're right about the oceans though,
Speaker 8: because the Yankee the same.
Speaker 6: Story as daygon uh.
Speaker 8: And also, uh, there's no surprise that the Dogon tribe
Speaker 8: or called the Dogon they.
Speaker 2: I was going to go there too. I did it.
Speaker 2: I actually did a podcast discussion with Larry Scratton, who
Speaker 2: actually wrote the book The dog on the Science of
Speaker 2: the dog On ye and I talked to him, you know,
Speaker 2: And it's just so amazing that that people have been
Speaker 2: blinded by Zacharai Sitchen and Billy Carson took that Olympic
Speaker 2: torch and rode with it and didn't stop at all.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, I don't understand it. Is money
Speaker 2: is the views, and I don't understand it. That's what
Speaker 2: That's one thing that I can understand. If you it's
Speaker 2: okay to want money. If you want that that Lexus,
Speaker 2: that Mercedes, go ahead and get it. I got a
Speaker 2: Chevy Silverado in the driveway. I make a million dollars.
Speaker 2: I'm still going to have a Chevy Silverado on the driveway.
Speaker 2: I love trucks, right, So that shit is not going
Speaker 2: to change. My pint is is that people are so
Speaker 2: so into showing off you know what they have. Okay,
Speaker 2: if your knowledge is as great as you can, then
Speaker 2: do what I do. Go grab the fucking book and
Speaker 2: show me where it says it at Show me which
Speaker 2: text says what you said, and then I can believe
Speaker 2: what you say. Until then I'm gonna go off the
Speaker 2: person that says they can translate it. Not only that,
Speaker 2: I take it one step further. I am actually teaching
Speaker 2: myself to mari and cuneiform, So now you got to teach.
Speaker 2: Now you got to tell me how wrong I am.
Speaker 2: And this is going to be a discussion that me
Speaker 2: and you are going to have to have, you know,
Speaker 2: either on stream or face to face. But you just
Speaker 2: can't put it in a couple of sentences all you're wrong.
Speaker 2: No the fuck I'm not. I know what I did,
Speaker 2: I know what I read, I know when I researched.
Speaker 2: Show me otherwise.
Speaker 8: Please, when you go back to the original sources, you
Speaker 8: become a forced to be reckoned with and that's extremely admirable,
Speaker 8: by the way, because not to get off on a
Speaker 8: tangent here, but we are living in this realm of shorts,
Speaker 8: reels and tiktoks that are just a copy of a
Speaker 8: copy of a copy, and it drives me.
Speaker 5: It's repetitive shit that I remember from twelve fifteen years
Speaker 5: ago when I first got into this shit. I'm like, yob,
Speaker 5: you were just repeating what somebody said fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: On YouTube and using AI to help on top.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 2: That's why I created a whole new Rumble account, and
Speaker 2: I'm visiting all these museums around in Americas or as
Speaker 2: much as I can around the world, and actually videotape
Speaker 2: it because you know, when people do documentaries, it's a
Speaker 2: forty five to fifty minute documentary. You know they recorded
Speaker 2: at least six hours of fucking material, and you only
Speaker 2: picked forty five minutes. And then when you show pictures
Speaker 2: of the artifacts that you're showing, you repeat those same
Speaker 2: fucking artifacts over and over and over again in the
Speaker 2: same show. Literally, you don't show there's there's You went
Speaker 2: to a museum, I guarantee you there's at least thousand
Speaker 2: items in there. Why aren't you only showing five five
Speaker 2: of them. It makes it doesn't make sense to me
Speaker 2: because they want that quick overturn of you know, the monit,
Speaker 2: the money, the views and all this that that, But
Speaker 2: what are you really teaching? Because now those five artifacts
Speaker 2: that you showed me, those don't probably don't mean shit
Speaker 2: to me, and there's probably more cool stuff than that
Speaker 2: than what you showed me. Show me everything, And that's
Speaker 2: why I'm recording and going through these places and actually,
Speaker 2: you know, seeing this stuff because I've actually had nick
Speaker 2: actually had guests on here that talked about the skulls
Speaker 2: and bones. Right, I've found artifacts at a military army
Speaker 2: base of Nazi memorabilia that had skulls and bones within them.
Speaker 2: So now that makes you think was these Nazis at Yale?
Speaker 2: To where they because you know where skulls and bones
Speaker 2: come from, right, so where they are participating over there
Speaker 2: at Yale?
Speaker 4: Come on?
Speaker 2: Makes you think about it?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: So well, look what.
Speaker 7: Well, I do have a question. So you kind of
Speaker 7: touched on it, and I don't know if maybe that's
Speaker 7: what you're talking about today, but the black Cube recycled
Speaker 7: not on our own accord, What did you mean by that?
Speaker 8: So roughly a million years ago when I started my channel,
Speaker 8: which is actually two years ago, but it seems, you know,
Speaker 8: I made a video called Hecks of Saturn, the Lore
Speaker 8: of the Black Cube, and I guess that one is
Speaker 8: really what catapulted me in the YouTube.
Speaker 6: World or whatever.
Speaker 8: It's still I don't understand what I did in that video,
Speaker 8: but it is beyond like quadruple any other video I
Speaker 8: have in views and whatever, and it.
Speaker 6: Was just received really well.
Speaker 8: Here's the thing I was observing that humans build in cubes,
Speaker 8: and that al chemically the human body is seen as
Speaker 8: a cube. Right, So we used to be triangles, and
Speaker 8: then before that O Cave we were circles, right, but
Speaker 8: now we build in cubes, and you know, the sort
Speaker 8: of ex caliber has.
Speaker 6: To be pulled out of the stone cube and I'll
Speaker 6: kickle gnostic.
Speaker 8: There's always circle is the divine realms and the cube
Speaker 8: is the physical realm. So I ran with that as
Speaker 8: a symbolic metaphor. Thinking outside the box was the idea
Speaker 8: of the entire video, and then I speculated about the cross.
Speaker 6: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 8: If you've ever been in grade school, you built a cube,
Speaker 8: you have to cut it out of a flat two
Speaker 8: D cross first and then you have to fold up
Speaker 8: the cross.
Speaker 6: So I speculated that that might.
Speaker 8: Had a connection there because Jesus left the cube, so
Speaker 8: to speak.
Speaker 6: Leaving behind his tangible body, right.
Speaker 10: And there was a whole lot more to it than that,
Speaker 10: including the experiment where fleas would not jump out of
Speaker 10: a jar if their parents had a lid on them.
Speaker 8: So if one flea was to be like, guys, we
Speaker 8: can jump out of this jar, the other fleas would
Speaker 8: be like, crucify him. You know, we do whatever you
Speaker 8: got to do. So that was my black Cube kind
Speaker 8: of metaphor. And tying it to Saturn was because ancient
Speaker 8: people often associated the hexagon, which is a two D cube,
Speaker 8: with Saturn. So it all kind of tied together, right, dude.
Speaker 8: Next thing, I know, there's Reddit forums, there's discord forums,
Speaker 8: there's black Wi Files did a damn episode called the
Speaker 8: Black Cube, and he was there's lines from that episode
Speaker 8: from my episode, which God love them, I love AJ
Speaker 8: and heckelfish they're wonderful.
Speaker 6: But anyway, they took it and they made it literal.
Speaker 8: They said, there's a black Cube machine that recycles our
Speaker 8: soul and sends us right back down to Earth, and
Speaker 8: that's not at all what I had intended, but it
Speaker 8: got taken that way. However, ever, since then, I've kind
Speaker 8: of ran into things that have bugged me about it,
Speaker 8: and not in a discarded.
Speaker 6: Way, but in a strange way.
Speaker 8: So like in these these Buddhist Mandela's right, oftentimes there's
Speaker 8: a very sinister creature with its fangs hanging up over
Speaker 8: the square and he's encompassing the whole wheel of.
Speaker 6: Some so as if he owns the damn thing.
Speaker 8: And then you'll have like a picture of Saddartha the
Speaker 8: Buddha pointing to the moon. And then they'll say, like,
Speaker 8: don't look at my finger when I point to the moon.
Speaker 6: I want you to look at the moon. And that
Speaker 6: took me down. I have a rabbit hole of like
Speaker 6: David Ike, which who.
Speaker 8: By the way, did all of this black cube stuff
Speaker 8: Saturn stuff ten twenty years before I even touched on it. Right,
Speaker 8: Uh so now you got grain of salt with David Ike,
Speaker 8: of course, But I love the guy.
Speaker 6: I think he's authentic.
Speaker 4: I some stuff I think, yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6: Think he's not a sellout. He's not doing anything for money,
Speaker 6: He's just whatever. He thinks is going on is what
Speaker 6: he's reporting, and that's what I like. I don't know
Speaker 6: if he's correct or not.
Speaker 4: But I actually do think.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 5: I actually do believe he had that experience, like crossing,
Speaker 5: that business experience. I actually believe it. By the way
Speaker 5: he talks, certain words that he uses, and the way
Speaker 5: he dresses. I don't doubt it.
Speaker 6: I don't find David Like to be a liar at all.
Speaker 8: And you can tell some of these guys when they're lying, dude.
Speaker 8: I mean, you've seen, like David Wilcox. You can just tell.
Speaker 6: You can just it's.
Speaker 2: Body language, man, David Wilcox, they do lost it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck he'd be talking about.
Speaker 8: Never liked him in the first place, man, And I
Speaker 8: don't know it. You can tell, you can tell some
Speaker 8: of these guys, dude. I was railing against Billy Carson
Speaker 8: on my channel way before the thing.
Speaker 6: Happened to them recently.
Speaker 8: And it was almost a breath of fresh air when
Speaker 8: that happened, because people were calling me racist for not
Speaker 8: liking Billy Carson.
Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, it ain't like that.
Speaker 8: But besides that, so I way before I touched on
Speaker 8: the subject talked about Saturn being the head ARCon, which
Speaker 8: is not in the In the Gnostic Gospels, it says
Speaker 8: that Saturn is the outer limits of our physical, tangible reality,
Speaker 8: so in a way it governs and and dictates the
Speaker 8: way physical matter runs.
Speaker 6: Therefore it becomes an emblem for time.
Speaker 8: And David I took this more literally and said that
Speaker 8: it's like a satellite dish that controls our simulation that
Speaker 8: is amplified by the moon and causes us to only
Speaker 8: see this particularly reality by inhibiting our junk DNA down
Speaker 8: to the few DNA strands that we do use. Therefore,
Speaker 8: we cannot realize certain things that these zen masters can.
Speaker 6: And in order for that to be feasible, any of
Speaker 6: that to be.
Speaker 8: Feasible wouldn't take one thing, which is basically alien overlords.
Speaker 8: And that it gets a little uncomfortable because we want
Speaker 8: to think that aliens would be like guides to us.
Speaker 6: But if you think.
Speaker 8: About what we said earlier, that everything needs to eat,
Speaker 8: and if you're not a tan physical being, you still
Speaker 8: have to eat something, and that what you would eat
Speaker 8: would be a theoric matter, some kind of sentience, some
Speaker 8: kind of consciousness, and uh, it's kind of been bugging
Speaker 8: me ever since, because what the what the these Eastern
Speaker 8: mystics are always getting at about meditation. They tell you
Speaker 8: to calm the mind. They're like, you have to silence
Speaker 8: the waters within there. There's often a hints that nothing
Speaker 8: can can digest.
Speaker 6: You if your if your thoughts.
Speaker 8: Are quiet enough, you become low on the radar. And
Speaker 8: these guys would go into the Lauta would go into
Speaker 8: the mountains to meditate because not because he wanted to
Speaker 8: leave society for obvious reasons that some people might, but
Speaker 8: he needed to uh change the reality stretch of our
Speaker 8: mental format, because the Eastern mystics would say that the
Speaker 8: reality that we perceive is not from one person imagining
Speaker 8: reality or else this would.
Speaker 6: Be Tower of Babel chaos.
Speaker 8: It takes the entire collected consciousness of humanity to create
Speaker 8: a single reality. So we are like children and like
Speaker 8: in the Baga Vigita with a chariot that's going to
Speaker 8: go off the cliff because someone through an apple and
Speaker 8: the horses are going to chase it. So you have
Speaker 8: to have that driver there to keep the horses going
Speaker 8: in a straight line. Because human beings are new, we're
Speaker 8: brand new we're children, and we will choose power over
Speaker 8: peace any any day, anytime, whether we admit it or not.
Speaker 8: So what they wanted to get at was Laota would
Speaker 8: leave society, go up in the mountains and he would
Speaker 8: separate himself from that collected consciousness that creates the reality
Speaker 8: structure and augment it manually by himself because nobody else
Speaker 8: was getting it. There was a certain level of strangeness
Speaker 8: and fear within that that that I find to be
Speaker 8: extremely careful with because they didn't want to come out
Speaker 8: and say everything.
Speaker 6: There's high q's and symbolism and all that stuff.
Speaker 8: But if you look at the idea of archons and loosh,
Speaker 8: are you guys familiar with this whole loush idea? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 8: So I have an idea about that. Lush is the
Speaker 8: you know, they say that they're feeding off of our suffering,
Speaker 8: and I think that's an extremely oversimplified and almost augmatic
Speaker 8: way to look at it. I think the best way
Speaker 8: to look at lush is like, let's say you work
Speaker 8: with four other people and one day you have a
Speaker 8: dentist appointment. You can't make it to work, so those
Speaker 8: three people have to bring in a fourth person to
Speaker 8: take your.
Speaker 6: Place right deep deep down inside.
Speaker 8: Whether you admit it or not, you don't want your
Speaker 8: co workers to have the best smoothest day ever, because
Speaker 8: that's gonna look bad on you. Even though you want
Speaker 8: what's best for everybody, you don't want it to go
Speaker 8: extremely smoothly, because it's if it's a little spicy there
Speaker 8: without you, that's good for you. That's what lush is now,
Speaker 8: as above so below. Could that be happening in the
Speaker 8: above realms as well, very much possibly, But that's not
Speaker 8: the point.
Speaker 6: The point is if.
Speaker 8: We can deal with that form of loosh that I
Speaker 8: just mentioned within us, this form of loosh goes away.
Speaker 8: And that's what the zen masters were getting at. You
Speaker 8: look within and you solve those problems within.
Speaker 6: Whatever is going on there.
Speaker 8: That you're worried about about them harvesting our souls doesn't
Speaker 8: matter anymore. If we figure it out down here, it
Speaker 8: ripples into the cosmos, and that's becomes a much bigger picture.
Speaker 8: And according to Enoch, if we are to realize that
Speaker 8: simple fact, it sets free the fallen angels that fell
Speaker 8: with us, these fallen angels that might be equated to
Speaker 8: what you were saying earlier about Enki or Lucifer or Prometheus,
Speaker 8: these beings.
Speaker 6: That were religions cast down as.
Speaker 8: Well as villains, as devils, as demons, when really they
Speaker 8: were giving us fire, giving us knowledge, giving us boats,
Speaker 8: giving us technology.
Speaker 6: That seems like good guys stuff to me.
Speaker 8: But one thing that they had in common with us
Speaker 8: they had a dire fear of God. So why would
Speaker 8: anybody fear God? While especially beings who came who lived
Speaker 8: with God before the worlds were made, Why would they
Speaker 8: have this fear of God? The only thing I can
Speaker 8: think of is that he ain't and that the Nasti
Speaker 8: Gospels might be hinting at something much bigger that the
Speaker 8: the the Old Testament God that might have been a
Speaker 8: demi or ghost, and all of us.
Speaker 6: Are running in this rat race to serve him.
Speaker 8: That's why he's always talking about worship me, not other gods.
Speaker 8: The first three commandments are really weird.
Speaker 2: Because he's a jealous guy. You remember, right, Why.
Speaker 8: Would you be jealous if you were the monad, if
Speaker 8: there was nothing else except for you, and we lived
Speaker 8: within you, Why what is going to be jealous of?
Speaker 6: If we ran.
Speaker 2: I'm so you said that, Yeah, I'm so glad you
Speaker 2: said it, And I'm sorry to interrupt you because I
Speaker 2: say that to Uh, what why would you be a
Speaker 2: jealous god? What would another god be able to do
Speaker 2: to keep another worship the same god? Exactly? See, that's
Speaker 2: why I don't understand why people say that, because it
Speaker 2: literally says in a Bible that his name is a
Speaker 2: jealous and he's a jealous guy. So what do people
Speaker 2: do when they're jealous? They usually cause harm to somebody
Speaker 2: or some people when they're jealous. Jealousy causes harm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you got it, man, you own it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: I like this ship, Yo, this dude's on it. You
Speaker 2: on it like white, don't rice.
Speaker 8: I'm on it like white on my scalp man fresh
Speaker 8: shave today.
Speaker 6: Dude. No, it's that I don't like the idea, that's
Speaker 6: the problem. I don't like it. Uh.
Speaker 8: Whenever I did Glitchen the Halo, every sentence that I typed, Uh,
Speaker 8: I hated it.
Speaker 6: And I had I had to cover the book of Job.
Speaker 8: Carl You said that his book Answer to Job, which
Speaker 8: covers that whole story, is the one book that he
Speaker 8: wouldn't revise in any way, shape or form. So I
Speaker 8: had to cover the damn thing. And the whole time
Speaker 8: I'm just like.
Speaker 6: Like, I, dude, I hate this because I prayed Jesus.
Speaker 8: I pray to Jesus Christ, and in my naive mind,
Speaker 8: I'm thinking that Jesus Christ is a reflection of Yahweh,
Speaker 8: of the Old Testament God. The more I started reading
Speaker 8: these Gnostic gospels, Dude, I think.
Speaker 6: He was warning people that it wouldn't that's not the case.
Speaker 8: Look who Jesus disliked the most the Pharisees, people who
Speaker 8: worship Yahweh. It's that's where you get really tricky. Jesus
Speaker 8: seems to be one of these zun masters that told
Speaker 8: us to look within instead of worshiping this God. Because
Speaker 8: in all these mythologies, God's first thing after creating humans
Speaker 8: is like sing songs to me and don't stop doing that.
Speaker 6: Hopey mythology, the gods.
Speaker 8: Are like, I swear to God, if you stop singing
Speaker 8: songs to me, I'm flooding this bitch.
Speaker 6: That is a weird thing to demand of your children.
Speaker 2: Shill hell, you skip that, and you skip bab him
Speaker 2: and killing his son. Man that come over, man, he hey,
Speaker 2: he manipulated his son and lied to his son, say
Speaker 2: let's go to the mountain, and then he ain't tell
Speaker 2: him that he I'm going to sacrifice your ass when
Speaker 2: we get up there because God told me too. What
Speaker 2: kind of shit is that man? Like that?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 8: The Christians have a million different ways to spice that
Speaker 8: saying that he gave a job back more children when
Speaker 8: he was done. Joe didn't want more children. He wanted
Speaker 8: he wanted his children, you know. And then people say
Speaker 8: it's a metaphor. That's fine too, But then what's the
Speaker 8: moral of the story. Keep believing in something that kicks
Speaker 8: you in the dick twenty four to seven.
Speaker 6: I don't like it.
Speaker 8: So I can't help but think that the zen Masters
Speaker 8: were saying the same thing as the Gnostics, as the
Speaker 8: Gnostics were.
Speaker 6: So ah, it's it's it's.
Speaker 8: Difficult, and it's uncomfortable because I don't want to be
Speaker 8: I don't want to get smited, you know.
Speaker 7: But well, I love how you talk about looking within.
Speaker 7: I'm a firm believer in being the change that you
Speaker 7: want to see in the world. If you want it
Speaker 7: to be a more peaceful world, a happier world, then
Speaker 7: you need to try to embody those things yourself. And
Speaker 7: kind of like lead by example. I'm really into that.
Speaker 7: And it's interesting you talked about the zen masters going
Speaker 7: to the mountains because I do a lot of camping
Speaker 7: and stuff like that, and I really feel like that's
Speaker 7: where I can almost get into my meditative space. And
Speaker 7: I think when you strip away the technology, you strip
Speaker 7: away the noise, like you said, kind of our societal
Speaker 7: identity that we take on and you're just bear with nature.
Speaker 7: I think it has a way of rewiring our brains
Speaker 7: back to kind of how they're supposed to be. And
Speaker 7: I always feel like I step away with more knowledge
Speaker 7: than kind of what I came in with.
Speaker 8: It's an unspoken knowledge that you can't be put in
Speaker 8: the words. And I work with guys in construction who
Speaker 8: they would make fun of meditation.
Speaker 6: All day, but then talk about man when I'm out
Speaker 6: there hunting up in my tree.
Speaker 8: Stand with my gun, just silence. They don't even have
Speaker 8: to get a deer. They're like, that's where I'm truly happy.
Speaker 8: I'm like, bitch, you're meditating.
Speaker 6: That's exactly what that is.
Speaker 8: And that being with nature is uh is parallel to
Speaker 8: evading the simulation a sumulkra because if you think about
Speaker 8: what is a simulation. Right, everyone wants to be sci
Speaker 8: fi with this shit, but they don't have to be
Speaker 8: the definition of a simulkra.
Speaker 6: Let me get this out real quick.
Speaker 8: So I've been down this rabbit hole lately, and I
Speaker 8: recommend it to anybody who's curious about anything paranormal or
Speaker 8: just society in general.
Speaker 6: But it's called simulchra and simulation.
Speaker 8: The way I came across this was in the movie
Speaker 8: The Matrix, whenever Neil answers the phone.
Speaker 6: This book is just.
Speaker 8: Kind of hidden in one of like three frames, you know,
Speaker 8: as a little hint. So I picked it up and
Speaker 8: it talks about what a simulcra is is a copy.
Speaker 6: Of a that no longer has an original.
Speaker 8: So being with nature is the best way to shed
Speaker 8: yourself of all samocra. So for example, Disney Disneyland. So
Speaker 8: once upon a time there were castles. We don't really
Speaker 8: know what these castles were used for. Some say that
Speaker 8: they harvested electromagnetic energy.
Speaker 6: You know, they have these castles.
Speaker 8: They were filled up with different amounts of material, as
Speaker 8: if like wineglasses, they give a different pitch, you know.
Speaker 11: But then that those castles became mythology the mythology being
Speaker 11: you know that if you want the treasure, you have
Speaker 11: to defeat the serpent.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 8: If you want the woman in the top of the tower,
Speaker 8: you have to go through the tower through that serpent. Right,
Speaker 8: there's no going around it. That's that's the mythology. And
Speaker 8: then mythology got replaced with fairy tales, which were dark.
Speaker 8: But then fairy tales became Disney movies. All along the
Speaker 8: way there's castles, and then there's Disneyland, where we have
Speaker 8: castles made out of foam. And then so we're already
Speaker 8: far removed from what castles were.
Speaker 6: But then if you go to this Disneyland.
Speaker 8: Gift shop, you can get a keychain with it's a
Speaker 8: little castle. By the time if you took this keychain
Speaker 8: and you held it up to somebody now or a
Speaker 8: thousand years for whatever. This thing came from something that
Speaker 8: we have no idea of what it is.
Speaker 6: It is a sumulchra.
Speaker 8: Now it is a copy of a copy that no
Speaker 8: longer has an original. So this is this book talks
Speaker 8: about the dangers of living with so Disneyland is just
Speaker 8: an example.
Speaker 6: The book is. What the book's getting at is that
Speaker 6: we live in a samulchra. The news. Look at the news.
Speaker 8: The news used to be a dude, a reporter or
Speaker 8: a journalist would go out into the world and then
Speaker 8: finds and then come back and tell the news.
Speaker 6: It's not like that anymore. The news is now reporting.
Speaker 8: On what the last news network said, and they're reporting
Speaker 8: on whatever the last news network said. They're just repeating
Speaker 8: whatever the last news So that's becoming a simulcher too.
Speaker 6: So we're living in an.
Speaker 8: Agreegor, a living sumulchra that is alive and kicking and
Speaker 8: is ready to destroy us at any moment.
Speaker 6: It gets what we have.
Speaker 8: Everything we have is a copy of a copy that
Speaker 8: no longer has an original.
Speaker 6: We are completely detached.
Speaker 8: From our original way of living, living in trees. What
Speaker 8: if I just want to live in a tree, It's illegal,
Speaker 8: So we are literally we are punished for getting rid.
Speaker 6: Of our sumulchrous.
Speaker 8: So if and this is the damnedest thing about it,
Speaker 8: is I want to sit in a creek and feel
Speaker 8: the cold water. Right you know, my creek right now
Speaker 8: now outside of my house is poisoned. Amerin poisoned my creek,
Speaker 8: and they put a letter on my door saying don't
Speaker 8: drink your water. We don't know when it happened, but
Speaker 8: back back off the water for a while. It's it's radioactive.
Speaker 8: It's about as if you let it. It's depressing, dude.
Speaker 8: But not only are we completely detached from nature, but
Speaker 8: for me, at least over here, it's become dangerous to do.
Speaker 4: So that's great.
Speaker 2: Not only you got to stay away from that radioactive water,
Speaker 2: you got to stay away from that radioactive shrimp too, man, Dan.
Speaker 6: If you do, danned, if you don't, Man, I love
Speaker 6: seeing I.
Speaker 2: Know right now, shit, man, like it's already anybody that
Speaker 2: you can't eat it now they make it radioactive. They
Speaker 2: definitely don't want you to touch it. Man.
Speaker 6: What is it about shrimp? Maybe that awakens the piney
Speaker 6: old land.
Speaker 2: Or something like that, and away you might be onto something.
Speaker 6: Eat enough krill or whatever. You'd be smart as a whal. Maybe.
Speaker 6: I don't know. But I wanted to say something else
Speaker 6: about the simulcher, but I what was it? I go
Speaker 6: off on tangents.
Speaker 2: Man, Hey, that's the best way to go. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and jump in while you're thinking. You know,
Speaker 2: I like this stuff because you know a lot of
Speaker 2: there's always this idea that this physical life that we're
Speaker 2: living right now is not the only life. You know,
Speaker 2: they say a lot of people live their lives again,
Speaker 2: or relive their lives and their dreams. You know, you
Speaker 2: got that Kashik records, you got astral projection, lucid dreaming
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Some people spend more time sleeping
Speaker 2: than they actually do awake. So where are they really
Speaker 2: living their full life at? Are they living their full
Speaker 2: life in the sleep mind state or they're living their
Speaker 2: full life in the physical state, you know, And everybody's
Speaker 2: from what I've read and researching a lot of people
Speaker 2: that I've talked to, there's something other than us, right,
Speaker 2: So obviously there's something out there that's greater than us.
Speaker 2: If you don't, you don't have to belie even the
Speaker 2: God in the Bible to believe that there's something more powerful, stronger,
Speaker 2: and more intelligent and better than you in this universe. Right,
Speaker 2: this universe they say, it's made up of, you know,
Speaker 2: billions and billions of galaxies, along with planets and stars
Speaker 2: and moons and all this other stuff. Right, And if
Speaker 2: I go by mathematics, right, it only makes sense for
Speaker 2: there to be a one percent out there right, in
Speaker 2: which means that there's something that's going to be a
Speaker 2: nominally out there, right, There's something that's not going to
Speaker 2: be normal to us, right. So I absolutely believe that
Speaker 2: there's things out there other than ourselves. Plus I've had
Speaker 2: my own experiences too. When I was a little kid.
Speaker 2: I told the story before Nick on your show, when
Speaker 2: I talked about how my mom's seen a figure over
Speaker 2: my crib when I was a little baby. And then
Speaker 2: when I got wounded in Afghanistan and my heart stopped
Speaker 2: and I was officially dead, I had seen two figures, right.
Speaker 2: One told me it was time to go. Another one
Speaker 2: told me it wasn't time to go. So I've had
Speaker 2: my own experiences along with my own understanding of what
Speaker 2: I've read, right, because I've read a lot about you know,
Speaker 2: demon's goals after life, you know, so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I learned about astro projection
Speaker 2: when I got diagnosed with sleep paralysis, okay, because I
Speaker 2: was having a problem. I was always having these issues
Speaker 2: after I was wounded in Afghanistan. For like a year straight,
Speaker 2: almost every single day, three hundred and sixty five days,
Speaker 2: I was experiencing where I couldn't move like I was.
Speaker 2: Literally I could see everything, I can hear everything, I
Speaker 2: could taste everything, but I couldn't move. And I was
Speaker 2: frightened because I would always see these figures. But because
Speaker 2: I was wounded in Afghanistan and because I had severe
Speaker 2: PTSD and I seen some fuck shit out there, and
Speaker 2: I rack in Afghanistan, you know, it's only normal for
Speaker 2: a soldier to see, you know, dead bodies and shit
Speaker 2: like that, right, things that might be not normal to
Speaker 2: the normal eye. Right, it's normal because of the brain.
Speaker 2: You know, I also have a moderate I have an
Speaker 2: mTBI moderate traumatic brain injury. So it was just normal
Speaker 2: for me to think that way. But then I started
Speaker 2: wondering and thinking more to myself. I was like, this
Speaker 2: shit ain't normal. Like I've watched movies that talk about this.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, One of my favorite movies is Freddy Kooper.
Speaker 2: I think it's, uh Freddie, Freddy's Dead or Freddie something
Speaker 2: like that. I can't remember where they was controlling their dreams.
Speaker 2: It wasn't Freddie's. Yeah, is that one? And another one?
Speaker 2: They were controlling their dreams or trying to control their dreams,
Speaker 2: and uh, they you know, they were practicing n astral
Speaker 2: projection and stuff like that. That's where I learned it from.
Speaker 2: That's where I actually remembered it first from. And as
Speaker 2: I got older, you know, I was like, why the
Speaker 2: fuck am I seeing these crazy things? I know what
Speaker 2: I've seen out there in Iraq, in Afghanistan, what I'm
Speaker 2: seeing in the dark is not the same. I know
Speaker 2: this is not the same. So I started doing some
Speaker 2: more research on astra projection and stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: I found out most people learn about astra projection when
Speaker 2: they get diagnosed with sleep paralysis because they're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what is going on. And that's when I
Speaker 2: learned about uh astra projections from my sleep perroalys. Then
Speaker 2: I learned about lucid dreaming because one of my doctors
Speaker 2: told me, well, why don't you try to control your dreams?
Speaker 2: You know, you're always having these crazy dreams from over
Speaker 2: there and this, that and the third, And I was like,
Speaker 2: how the fuck do you do that? Right? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He and the person wasn't intelligent enough.
Speaker 2: They didn't know about lucid dreaming or nothing, because when
Speaker 2: I came back and told them what I researched, you know,
Speaker 2: they put in my medical records that I was more
Speaker 2: crazier than I thought, you know, or they thought right,
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, and I've researched and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, and this is one of the things that
Speaker 2: I've learned about lucid dreaming. If if you're trying to
Speaker 2: understand your way of understanding on how to control your dreams,
Speaker 2: or if you're lucid dreaming or not, the one thing
Speaker 2: you should always do is take a bracelet, a yarn,
Speaker 2: colored yarn, whatever your favorite color is, put it on
Speaker 2: it right, set your alarm for at least two weeks
Speaker 2: straight or a month or however, every day at the
Speaker 2: same time for an hour, and when that alarm goes off,
Speaker 2: you look at it. Yeah, and you look at it,
Speaker 2: and you look at When you get into your dream
Speaker 2: like state, your room state or whatever, when you're dreaming,
Speaker 2: it automatically consciously decides to hey, let me check to
Speaker 2: see if I'm dreaming. If you see it, yeah, that
Speaker 2: means that you're that that you're not lucid dreaming, that
Speaker 2: you're in a physical state. If you don't see it,
Speaker 2: you're in your lucid dreaming. And that's when you can
Speaker 2: start controlling what you want to see.
Speaker 6: That's it is huge.
Speaker 2: Really quick.
Speaker 7: So does that mean like that's how you change yourself
Speaker 7: to lu.
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 8: Oh wow, that that is that's literally wonderful because I
Speaker 8: know about the the wake back to sleep method, which
Speaker 8: I have done, but that seems a lot more practical
Speaker 8: because that's something that you have to cognitively do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to make that conscious decisions and be like,
Speaker 2: oh my alarms off, let me look at my risk
Speaker 2: and you're like okay. And when you don't see it
Speaker 2: no more, you're like, oh ship, Yeah, I'm dreaming at
Speaker 2: Let's go fuck some ship up right.
Speaker 8: Well, see, what's what's amazing about that is according to
Speaker 8: the vaz Rayana, that's that's the key to break out
Speaker 8: of the somesora. It's actually the matrix whatever it's called now,
Speaker 8: is to lucid dream not that lucid dreaming gets you
Speaker 8: out of the matrix, but that it's training for death
Speaker 8: so that when the time comes. This is repeated by
Speaker 8: the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the Tibetan Book of
Speaker 8: the Dead, the Vasryana Buddhists, Tibetan Buddhists, they all talk
Speaker 8: about the ni Yeah. Yeah, they say, if you can
Speaker 8: it's not just lucid dreaming.
Speaker 6: That is their sleep yoga, so to speak.
Speaker 8: I don't want to misquote this, but they talk about
Speaker 8: the best way to train yourself is to stay cognitive
Speaker 8: going into and out of sleep, which is probably the
Speaker 8: hardest part about it. To maintain awareness going into sleep.
Speaker 8: You know, I've never been able to do that, but
Speaker 8: they talk about like that's the key right there.
Speaker 6: If you can do that, you are untouchable.
Speaker 8: As an etheric form whenever you leave your body at death.
Speaker 6: Then you start you know, the.
Speaker 8: Mar is going to a tempt you or uh these
Speaker 8: I forgot the name of the animalistic dude looks like
Speaker 8: a bear with six arms, which is just a metaphor,
Speaker 8: of course, but.
Speaker 6: There's rage, demons, temptation.
Speaker 8: Goddesses that they're all going to try to get you
Speaker 8: to go to the right light that's going to bring
Speaker 8: you right back where you started. Whereas they say your
Speaker 8: goal is to go into the clear light, you won't notice.
Speaker 6: It because it's clear.
Speaker 8: The whole the whole idea there is to maintain your
Speaker 8: awareness whenever you're crossing over so that you can compute
Speaker 8: that nothing can fool you because when you're dreaming, you
Speaker 8: don't know you're dreaming. So when you die, you're not
Speaker 8: going to know that you're dead. So apparently, after a
Speaker 8: lifetime of sleep yoga, training yourself to stay coherent, whenever
Speaker 8: you die, it's not going to be an issue for you.
Speaker 8: It's the whole idea there, the.
Speaker 2: Party, you supposed you're supposed to lose, that fear of death.
Speaker 2: That's why they that's why they train. That's why the
Speaker 2: ancient times, I believe they trained people to meditate because
Speaker 2: it was purport them for death, you know, because you
Speaker 2: know you're going to be and it's it's it's so
Speaker 2: crazy that you say like that because a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't really understand that the fact that you know,
Speaker 2: these ancient people were teaching us how to prepare for death.
Speaker 2: Literally their whole entire lives were teaching us how to
Speaker 2: prepare for death and what to be in our own
Speaker 2: godlike abilities abilities in this physical form. That's why, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like the it's like the it's like the superhero
Speaker 2: movies and shows. Everybody has their own qualities, their own specialty, right.
Speaker 2: You know, Superman can fly faster than move faster than
Speaker 2: a speeding bullet, But to what batman can counter that
Speaker 2: ship by shooting his ass with what you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So you know, it's it's it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's amazing that everybody has their own specialty, their
Speaker 2: own guy.
Speaker 8: Like.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, there's actually a show called Superhumans by
Speaker 2: Stan Lee and he used to go around world and
Speaker 2: interview people who had like what they what we would
Speaker 2: call god like features, Like there was a guy that
Speaker 2: could sustain electricity and never get electrocuted. You could transfer
Speaker 2: electricity to a light bulb or to a pot or
Speaker 2: something like that if he just touched something else that
Speaker 2: like electrical wire or something like that. There was the
Speaker 2: contortionists with the guy that was the narrator. You know,
Speaker 2: do you had the human calculator, the guy that can
Speaker 2: do mathematics faster than somebody plugging the numbers into a calculator,
Speaker 2: like thinking, I saw that Recentlyeah, Yeah, And it's crazy
Speaker 2: because we're in twenty twenty five with people doing this
Speaker 2: stuff now. I imagine thousands and thousands and thousands of
Speaker 2: years ago without this technology, the abilities that people were having,
Speaker 2: people harnessing electricity, from lightning, right, I mean, just think
Speaker 2: about that for a second. Right, somebody gets struck with lightning.
Speaker 2: You see it in the field because you're you're farming,
Speaker 2: you're doing your your your duties, and you see your
Speaker 2: partner over there gets struck by lightning. He gets up
Speaker 2: and he's like, there's nothing wrong with me, And now
Speaker 2: you consider him the thunder God, the lightning god, right, right,
Speaker 2: because every time he steps in the field, there's lightning nearby. Right.
Speaker 2: There's another thing for me, for instance, ever since I
Speaker 2: was wounded in Afghanistan, I have this thing where I
Speaker 2: can tell when it's about to rain. My body gets
Speaker 2: really really tired. I've been It's crazy because when rain
Speaker 2: comes by, I know when I can feel it. Like
Speaker 2: you heard the old school people saying, oh my corns
Speaker 2: are acting up or my bunions are acting up. It's
Speaker 2: about the rain and some shit like that. I feel
Speaker 2: it by being tired, like I'm really tired. I get really,
Speaker 2: really really tired about thirty forty five minutes, maybe an
Speaker 2: hour later, it starts raining in Port. I was like,
Speaker 2: I knew it's going to rain, and as soon as
Speaker 2: it's done, I'm back to being hyper like I was
Speaker 2: telling you guys, I've been up since like eight o'clock
Speaker 2: last night. I don't really sleep because of my PTSD
Speaker 2: and shit like that. And I actually was diagnosed with
Speaker 2: a narcolepsy. So it's kind of funny too about that.
Speaker 2: I don't have the narcolepsy. You know from the movie
Speaker 2: what's that movie? Uh Deuced Big Low when the chick
Speaker 2: kept falling asleep and he had to tie her hair
Speaker 2: back to the nail, so she went to hit her
Speaker 2: head and the super or something. I don't have that
Speaker 2: type of narco fc. I just get really sleepy. And
Speaker 2: I started noticing that I can tell my tiredness whether
Speaker 2: it's from my condition or if it's from you know,
Speaker 2: the weather. And I'm serious, it's really crazy. And that's
Speaker 2: what I also learned about dowsing because of that. You
Speaker 2: know the sticks where you can go check for water
Speaker 2: and shit like that. I also learned about that. So,
Speaker 2: you know, we all have our own abilities for everything.
Speaker 2: We know, we have our own ways of doing things.
Speaker 2: It's not until we start working together when all those
Speaker 2: abilities come out together. That's why usually when somebody's running
Speaker 2: a one man show, the show is not really entertaining.
Speaker 2: But you add a couple of more people to it,
Speaker 2: and shit starts getting entertaining because of the personalities and
Speaker 2: everything else. And you don't have to rely on listening
Speaker 2: to one person. You can hear everybody's perspective. You're bringing
Speaker 2: everybody together, paint a picture to understand everything that's around us.
Speaker 2: And a lot of times you'll get the good people
Speaker 2: that you'll know that can with that in then you'll
Speaker 2: find the people who yes. Smelling rain, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Just like Jessica said, it's almost like I can taste it,
Speaker 2: like tasting the rain when it comes. It's like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck? And you know, I don't know, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: I mean think about how that would help people. You know,
Speaker 2: back in the ancient times, you know fish gods. You know,
Speaker 2: a god like Jesus, he fed you know, thousands of
Speaker 2: people with a couple of fish and some bread. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: let's put that into an allegorical type of understanding. Well,
Speaker 2: he didn't. He went out there to fish three different times,
Speaker 2: and he caught enough fish those three times. If somebody
Speaker 2: can catch fish to the point where they can feed
Speaker 2: their whole tribe, their whole community, They're gonna be known
Speaker 2: as a fish guy. Anybody that can you know, create
Speaker 2: fire with ease, They're gonna be known as a fire god.
Speaker 2: Somebody who can you know, sacrifice animals without getting queasy
Speaker 2: and scared and all this and providing meat for the community,
Speaker 2: They're gonna be known as what a sacrificer. Right, somebody's
Speaker 2: gonna be saying, Hey, you got to sacrifice this to
Speaker 2: the god. This god needs to It's always how people
Speaker 2: interpret things, and it's never about being right or wrong.
Speaker 2: It's how we use our abilities to carry forward our
Speaker 2: progression in life as humans.
Speaker 8: That's just say, that's the key to make the full
Speaker 8: picture that you need all the puzzle pieces, and all
Speaker 8: the puzzle pieces.
Speaker 6: Are a little different. And I think that's the key
Speaker 6: idea of individuation that coined.
Speaker 8: By Carl Jung, is that each individual has particular superpowers
Speaker 8: that see, this is why the society wants everybody a
Speaker 8: cookie cutter. Society wants everybody to be a carbon copy
Speaker 8: of the next person, just.
Speaker 6: Drones and machines.
Speaker 8: Meanwhile, everybody's got their own individual thing.
Speaker 6: I bet you the.
Speaker 8: Ten best pole voulters in the world have no idea
Speaker 8: that they are because they've never tried it. You know,
Speaker 8: you got to try all kinds of different shit before
Speaker 8: you find out what it is you're good at, you know.
Speaker 8: And it takes the village, as they say, yeah, for
Speaker 8: a society to run fluently. And everyone talks about like
Speaker 8: the imitation of Christ and the way Carl Jung puts
Speaker 8: it with his thing about individuation is he's supposed to
Speaker 8: directly imitate what Christ did. You're supposed to find out
Speaker 8: what it is that awakens the Christ within you, because
Speaker 8: then you're contributing to society in a way that is
Speaker 8: truly selfless. You know.
Speaker 6: I found the section by the way, if you want
Speaker 6: to hear this now.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny that you bring up Christ because
Speaker 2: I always talk about this a lot. You know, there's
Speaker 2: always arguing about who is just you know, people always
Speaker 2: arguing about, you know, the skin color, where he came from,
Speaker 2: what he looked like, you know, this, that and the
Speaker 2: third And to me, it's just it's amazing to me
Speaker 2: because they arguing about what he looked like. Why aren't
Speaker 2: you arguing about the ship that he told us to do? Right?
Speaker 2: All Jesus Christ every wanted anybody to do was just
Speaker 2: to do the right thing. Treat your neighbor like you
Speaker 2: would want to be treated, Treat people with respect, treat
Speaker 2: help people if they needed it. You know, don't don't
Speaker 2: judge others. Don't do this. He never had a hateful
Speaker 2: bone in his body. All he wanted was everybody to
Speaker 2: do just to be okay. It's okay to forgive your enemy,
Speaker 2: you know, it's okay. It's not for you to forgive them,
Speaker 2: It's for you to forgive yourself. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: it's for yourself.
Speaker 8: And Yah, today discussing his color and features.
Speaker 2: That it would blow up that right there tells me
Speaker 2: already that you don't even care about the good and people.
Speaker 2: You only care about the color and what they look like.
Speaker 2: You know, their appearance is what makes you worship them.
Speaker 2: And that's a sad way to think about things. I mean,
Speaker 2: why are you worried about whether this man was black, white,
Speaker 2: or whatever when he was sitting up here telling people
Speaker 2: stop abusing children, stop abusing women. That's what you should
Speaker 2: be talking about. I stop focused on the damn skin color,
Speaker 2: focus on the good that he was talking about, because
Speaker 2: he never said anything bad, you know, He even questioned
Speaker 2: his own father, God himself, and a lot of people
Speaker 2: believe that him and God is one of the same.
Speaker 2: But he questioned God on on the cross himself. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. He questioned him, and that's a
Speaker 2: sin in itself, you know not. Let's not only forget
Speaker 2: that he also went to Hell, so he knows what
Speaker 2: it is to go through hell, quote unquote, go through
Speaker 2: hell just to make it to heaven. He would like
Speaker 2: to go through the darkest moments of your life and
Speaker 2: come out of it and go to heaven. That's that's crazy.
Speaker 2: You can't tell me that somebody was trying to break him,
Speaker 2: because why would he need to go to hell, And
Speaker 2: why would somebody in the first place go to Hell
Speaker 2: take anybody from hell to bring him to heaven. So
Speaker 2: all this ship that they did in their physical life,
Speaker 2: they got accepted to heaven, even though they might have
Speaker 2: spent a little bit time in Hell. No, somebody had
Speaker 2: this something wrong to a few individuals. And I look
Speaker 2: at it like this, Think about the h the judicial
Speaker 2: system of today. There are people spending time in prison
Speaker 2: right now for crimes that they didn't do, and there
Speaker 2: was enough evidence for them to sit there and stay
Speaker 2: in jail until they was proven not guilty. Or there
Speaker 2: are people in jail that hasn't really done that's done
Speaker 2: a petty crime, and there are people out there abusing
Speaker 2: women and children and elderly and they don't they don't
Speaker 2: get nowhere near the time amount of people that that
Speaker 2: that that that they're you know, the drug charges of
Speaker 2: marijuana and or taxes and stuff like that. Like you
Speaker 2: telling me that, you're telling me you're sending people to
Speaker 2: jail for that, but you let you know, these abusers
Speaker 2: walk around and then you sit here and tell me,
Speaker 2: what would Jesus do? Well, Jesus wouldn't let Jesus you know.
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, it's funny.
Speaker 2: Because I'm reading this book right now. I'm reading this
Speaker 2: book right now, Oxford Handbook of Religion, of Religion, Religion
Speaker 2: and Violence. Right It's a thick ass book. I just
Speaker 2: started reading it and I just passed the Christianity part
Speaker 2: and it says in there that even though violence was
Speaker 2: not necessarily something that they wanted to do, it was
Speaker 2: necessary for their livelihood, right because they were being prosecuted
Speaker 2: for certain things. If you walked around that you was
Speaker 2: a Christian you could have had your head on a pike.
Speaker 2: Why would a Christian at that time who was falling Christ,
Speaker 2: where Christ told people, look stop abusing women and children
Speaker 2: and the elderly, why would you put that person on
Speaker 2: a crucifix? And why would you put a person's head
Speaker 2: on a pike when they're telling other people not to
Speaker 2: abuse women and children and elderly. That's telling me something
Speaker 2: that you want people to be abused, right right, So
Speaker 2: go ahead, broke, I'm sorry, I can get on the
Speaker 2: country too.
Speaker 7: One of my favorite things about Jesus is that, you know,
Speaker 7: he even says, you know, be angry, but sin not,
Speaker 7: so talking about, you know, the things in our society.
Speaker 7: He was like, it's okay to be angry. And I
Speaker 7: think that's an important thing because sometimes I think we
Speaker 7: get angry and we don't know how to process it,
Speaker 7: and we almost feel bad for being angry. But anger
Speaker 7: is just a feeling, just like anything else. It's actually
Speaker 7: a secondary emotion. But that's a different topic. But I
Speaker 7: think that that was a really interesting piece to what
Speaker 7: you're saying, Tyrone, who is, like Jesus said, be angry,
Speaker 7: but sin not. So that goes back to you know
Speaker 7: what you brought up very about just you know, embodying
Speaker 7: that change and that positivity and that light and that goodness.
Speaker 7: And I think that's one of my favorite things that
Speaker 7: he taught.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know what, you know, these two scriptures
Speaker 2: hit me hard. Matthew ten thirty four. Think not that
Speaker 2: I am come to send peace on earth. I came
Speaker 2: not to send peace but a sword. And he had
Speaker 2: to fight against the people who were using women, children
Speaker 2: and the elderly. You don't fight that with a discussion
Speaker 2: and a conversation. That's already gone, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: That's already gone once you start affecting women, children and
Speaker 2: the elderly.
Speaker 12: Right that right there, It doesn't say that he actually
Speaker 12: used the sword, but he brought it. Writing that he
Speaker 12: brought sword represents war, sword represents violence.
Speaker 6: Motherfucker on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hey, it's like somebody walking around with a
Speaker 2: strap on the side of they hit waiting for somebody
Speaker 2: to fuck around to find out. That's what he was about.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He let them know right there. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: I'm as nice as I can possibly be, but I'll
Speaker 2: flip these goddamn tables on you if you mess with me,
Speaker 2: and he did it.
Speaker 6: He did it right, that's right.
Speaker 7: I always love telling people that I'm like, don't forget,
Speaker 7: Like Jesus was flipping tables, like it's okay to get mad,
Speaker 7: you know, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I say. If he can, if he
Speaker 2: if he can get mad, then I nowhere near on
Speaker 2: the level of that, because I'm not flipping those tables
Speaker 2: with no food on it. I'm not waiting no food.
Speaker 2: I'll take food off first and then I'll go flip
Speaker 2: the table. But I ain't flipping all especially if he
Speaker 2: got some ribs or some chicken on it, and I'm
Speaker 2: leaving that right there where it's at.
Speaker 6: Man, if it's got that mac and cheese with the
Speaker 6: PE's in the bottom, I'll flip that shit over though
Speaker 6: that's unnecessary. I don't know what they were doing.
Speaker 2: But seriously, you know how pissed off you have to
Speaker 2: be to flip a table. Yeah, these ain't. These ain't
Speaker 2: no punk ass tables of twenty twenty five. These is hard,
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, this this is this wasn't old cheap
Speaker 2: ass table. You know, this is the oak or something
Speaker 2: like that. You know what I'm saying. Something that weigh
Speaker 2: like three four hundred pounds. You had to have some
Speaker 2: muscle to flip that, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: if you're gonna take one piece flip it, you can't
Speaker 2: act like you're gonna flip a table and don't finish
Speaker 2: it out, you know what I'm saying. You gotta be
Speaker 2: really pissed off the lift something like that.
Speaker 6: And that was the Pharisees man.
Speaker 8: He didn't he didn't like what they were doing. But
Speaker 8: that sort of thing reminds me of the definition of meek.
Speaker 8: He says, the mequal inherit earth, and we think that
Speaker 8: meek equals weak. And maybe because of rhymes, I don't know,
Speaker 8: but meek and Greek sounds.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: That tripped me up just now. Uh A lot of equords.
Speaker 8: But it's it's a man with a sword who keeps
Speaker 8: it sheathd not a weak person, but someone who has
Speaker 8: a sword but doesn't use it.
Speaker 6: It's it's like that's real power, that's real strength right there?
Speaker 5: You know, was there a Is there anything else that
Speaker 5: you wanted to actually talk about Joey specifically?
Speaker 8: There there is this section here that in this Tallebet
Speaker 8: book that I can't keep to myself and I'll read
Speaker 8: it to you if you don't mind this. This this
Speaker 8: tripped me up, uh pretty good the first time I
Speaker 8: read it, because the implications are staggering and it seems
Speaker 8: like one of those things where you can acknowledge it
Speaker 8: coherently consciously all day, but until one is able to
Speaker 8: process it psychologically, like in their subconscious mind, it doesn't
Speaker 8: do nothing.
Speaker 6: But so you see some of the riyana here, recognizing that.
Speaker 8: The Vazriyana Dudeh seeks to control the reality structuring mechanism
Speaker 8: of the human consciousness, the mechanism which edits out the
Speaker 8: infinity of universes we could be experiencing all mighty powers
Speaker 8: are shut in nature cells. The role of the mystic
Speaker 8: since time immemorial has been to point this out. But
Speaker 8: uh so, the laws of sleep, food, gravity, causes and
Speaker 8: effects are all so called laws of nature are laws
Speaker 8: for us only to the.
Speaker 6: Extent that they are believed.
Speaker 8: They are like grooves on a record, an infinity of
Speaker 8: interpretating universes.
Speaker 6: So it almost compares.
Speaker 8: It to like like grooves on a record. That's something
Speaker 8: that can exacerbate and get deeper within the coherent consciousness.
Speaker 8: But if you can break out of that, it creates
Speaker 8: an entirely different reality STRUCTURER. And the way this is
Speaker 8: taken advantage of by the vaj rihannadutists is they call
Speaker 8: themselves atheists even though they worship higher powers than gods.
Speaker 8: The reason they consider themselves atheists is because their image
Speaker 8: of God that they imagined.
Speaker 6: It to be Krishna. All these guys they acknowledged.
Speaker 8: That they were projections of their own psyche and therefore
Speaker 8: were real in the causal realms. And they maintain that
Speaker 8: this coherentness of imagining their gods was like a feedback
Speaker 8: loop that would create our reality and thus in turn
Speaker 8: would create that reality, which kind of makes sense if
Speaker 8: you consider that nothing can't exist without its opposite. Every
Speaker 8: front has a back. The mountain is high because the
Speaker 8: valley is low. These guys were able to control reality
Speaker 8: by controlling their own minds.
Speaker 6: But sticking together with it.
Speaker 8: It almost seems like if you look at what the
Speaker 8: news and media is doing, well, since I can remember
Speaker 8: they paint a picture in order for the human consciousness
Speaker 8: as a mass to imagine reality.
Speaker 6: A certain way.
Speaker 8: Therefore, it does become that if that's not black magic,
Speaker 8: I don't know what is because if you can get
Speaker 8: masses of people to believe a certain thing, it doesn't
Speaker 8: matter if it's a lie or if it's the truth.
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. It becomes real whenever the.
Speaker 8: Collected consciousness believes it, because human beings are not, despite
Speaker 8: us having all different superpowers. If you look at it
Speaker 8: from a sidereal point of view, zoom out, We're a
Speaker 8: moss on a rock, and whether whatever the shape of
Speaker 8: the rock is doesn't matter. And that's kind of the point,
Speaker 8: is that if you get enough people believing something, it
Speaker 8: becomes reality for everyone.
Speaker 6: No matter how far removed they are.
Speaker 8: That begs the question why does the news constantly perpetuate
Speaker 8: fear above anything else. There's a lot of good things
Speaker 8: that happen in the world. I've never seen them on
Speaker 8: the news. It's almost like they are a loose mechanism
Speaker 8: itself at the top of which I can't imagine what
Speaker 8: it would be, because what human being would want that
Speaker 8: for the rest of the human beings?
Speaker 7: You know, Well, that's because who's in charge are not
Speaker 7: human beings of all of those networks.
Speaker 6: And I used to.
Speaker 7: When I was in high school, I used to want
Speaker 7: to go into journalism I was our news anchor for
Speaker 7: the school, and there's old videos of it on YouTube,
Speaker 7: but it's buried so you'll never find it. And then
Speaker 7: I realized, like what the mockingbord Bird media is about,
Speaker 7: and I want to know no parts of it. And
Speaker 7: it's interesting because if you look at who owned these companies,
Speaker 7: and you were talking earlier about how all of the
Speaker 7: alien life beings need to have something to sustain them.
Speaker 7: If you listen to CE five experiencers, and what they
Speaker 7: say is that there's different types of beings, the Nordics,
Speaker 7: the Grays, the Reptilians, and so on, and they each
Speaker 7: need something different. And I think I think it's like
Speaker 7: the Reptilians or something who are in charge of a
Speaker 7: lot of these negative factions. I would say that we
Speaker 7: have on our earth that are meant to control. And
Speaker 7: I think you're right. You never see anything good on
Speaker 7: the news. It's the same script. You can just flip
Speaker 7: the channel and it's going to be just slightly different.
Speaker 7: But it's look, they're all owned by the same people, so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the same feelings us the same exactly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's why I say it would be so
Speaker 7: much happier if you just turn off the news like
Speaker 7: and just stay in reality and look around your own
Speaker 7: community again the change that you want to see.
Speaker 8: I get my news from memes and the cult rejects.
Speaker 4: That's right there.
Speaker 2: I want to answer your question, Broke. You know people
Speaker 2: misery likes company, you know, so those are the people
Speaker 2: that would do that. You know, somebody who has nothing
Speaker 2: to lose or wants or gets enjoyment and out of
Speaker 2: seeing pain in others. You know, some people would sacrifice
Speaker 2: pain of themselves just to they can inflict plain on
Speaker 2: somebody else, just to see it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's it's crazy that people are like that. You know,
Speaker 2: energy vampires for example, somebody that likes to suck out
Speaker 2: your good energy. You know what I'm saying. There are
Speaker 2: people out there who really hate themselves so they want
Speaker 2: to have me or that other people hate themselves as
Speaker 2: much as they hate themselves, you know, And it's strange
Speaker 2: that that that is like that.
Speaker 7: No, absolutely, because I think too it helps keep people
Speaker 7: in that lower vibration, in that lower consciousness. So that way,
Speaker 7: if you're constantly worried in fear and anxiety, you can
Speaker 7: never think about creating you don't have time to ponder.
Speaker 7: You know, you could create that next invention or that
Speaker 7: new thing that purifies water. You don't have time to
Speaker 7: think about any of that because you're living in that
Speaker 7: like lizard brain, fear based low chakra vibe all of
Speaker 7: the time. And I think that you know, like to
Speaker 7: your point, it's a way to control and inflict that
Speaker 7: pain on people. So that way people don't achieve their
Speaker 7: entire potential.
Speaker 4: You don't have that chance to have an idea that
Speaker 4: like s possible and something else.
Speaker 8: This is why I don't ejaculate anymore. I don't need
Speaker 8: any energy vampires to be siphoning my energy.
Speaker 4: Nick, Oh fuck.
Speaker 6: I had. I had to take your joke and I
Speaker 6: had to move it over here. I didn't try it out.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but I think not only Brooke are you
Speaker 8: a spot on with that, But it makes sense if.
Speaker 6: You look at the schooling system.
Speaker 8: You know, the guy who invented the schooling system we
Speaker 8: have now, which wasn't long ago.
Speaker 6: I mean this was like eighteen nineties.
Speaker 8: That the dude was like, Yo, we've got enough philosophers,
Speaker 8: we've got enough artists. People are making machines now, and
Speaker 8: we need workers to take on these machines so we
Speaker 8: can produce, produce, produced, produce. So they designed school, which
Speaker 8: is no secret. It's not even a conspiracy. The school
Speaker 8: was designed to be a factory, a prefactory, because factories
Speaker 8: were new, and they're like, we got to fill this
Speaker 8: up with employees.
Speaker 6: We gotta make money.
Speaker 8: And so school stopped being to feed your potential and
Speaker 8: they started being to get to the next class by the.
Speaker 6: Time the bell rings or else.
Speaker 8: There's repercussions, you know, And as you know, freedom of
Speaker 8: thought is completely prohibited in schools.
Speaker 6: You have to I.
Speaker 8: Remember being in school and being taught about Freud, Sigmund Freud, and.
Speaker 6: I was like to my own teacher, I was like,
Speaker 6: how are you of all people buying into any of this?
Speaker 8: This man was a madman on cocaine, sex obsessed, wanted
Speaker 8: to bang his mom.
Speaker 6: And there there's really problems.
Speaker 8: This is a psychological problem if you think about it.
Speaker 8: He just happened to have the money, so he's eccentric
Speaker 8: instead of crazy. Meanwhile, Jung was completely ignored in school,
Speaker 8: and does Jung teach well to look within?
Speaker 6: So they they they so when they want to.
Speaker 8: Push psychology, they they got Sigmund Freud.
Speaker 6: That's their mascot.
Speaker 8: If they want to teach science, they they quote Neil
Speaker 8: de Gras Tyson, a man who is not a scientist,
Speaker 8: never has been, never touches the lab. It's so, it's
Speaker 8: but they won't talk about uh Rupert Sheldrake.
Speaker 4: Oh, I love his stuff. I love his stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a scientist.
Speaker 8: He goes in and does science, and we're not taught
Speaker 8: about his work.
Speaker 4: Don't forget about.
Speaker 6: Whatever Tyson is talking about.
Speaker 8: And I emphasize talking about you know he he memorizes
Speaker 8: things and then bullies other scientists, you know science. There
Speaker 8: have been scientists with breakthroughs who are afraid to come
Speaker 8: forward with their breakthroughs because they seeing what happens when
Speaker 8: Neil de Grass Tyson mocks you on the news or
Speaker 8: on the media or on a talk show, their careers plummet.
Speaker 6: Whether they're right or wrong, it doesn't matter if if
Speaker 6: one of these rock star scientists.
Speaker 8: Look, if you say name three scientists to any average person,
Speaker 8: they're gonna go Neil the Grass Tyson, Bill Ny the
Speaker 8: Science Guy, and maybe Stephen Hawking. Like that is so
Speaker 8: bizarre to me that no one can name real scientists
Speaker 8: and it's it's it's boggling to me.
Speaker 6: So, I mean, that's just science class.
Speaker 2: But then can Georgie Lamartre ed Hoyle you know, you
Speaker 2: know who Georgie Lamontrea is.
Speaker 6: I'm not familiar.
Speaker 2: What about Fred Hoyle?
Speaker 6: No, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 2: That's where the big Bang theory term actually comes from.
Speaker 2: So Georgie Lamntre is the guy who actually came up
Speaker 2: with the primeval Adam theory, which is basically how the
Speaker 2: universe started from, you know, an explosion of some sort.
Speaker 2: Fred Hoyle is a guy that tried to uh, he
Speaker 2: came up with the term big bang to discredit Georgie
Speaker 2: Lamontrea and his primeval atom theory. Yeah, so we get
Speaker 2: when so when somebody says the big bang theory or
Speaker 2: if you know, to show the big bang, it came
Speaker 2: from an individual named Fred Hoyle. And this was around
Speaker 2: like nineteen forty nine, nineteen fifty or something like that
Speaker 2: on the BBC channel.
Speaker 8: And I love he said spicy drama there for the Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's always and that's what I was
Speaker 2: saying earlier. It's always going to be there. You can't
Speaker 2: be in this field or any field where it comes
Speaker 2: into research encountering other people where it's going to be
Speaker 2: what you called spicy, where it's going to be, you know, arguments.
Speaker 2: You just have to learn how to look past that.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: I've read a lot of books from Plato. I actually
Speaker 2: read all the Platose books that are available to the public.
Speaker 2: And in his books, if you read his books, he
Speaker 2: literally tells you that individuals, like how we are having
Speaker 2: discussions right now over streaming online, they would go to
Speaker 2: their inner cities or location that they would for the debates,
Speaker 2: and they would go in there and argue, call each
Speaker 2: other stupid, dumbasses, and all kinds of stuff, right, And
Speaker 2: they would say their points and all this other stuff,
Speaker 2: and at the end of the day they would go
Speaker 2: back home, and then the next day they will go
Speaker 2: back out there and redo it overever again, right, And
Speaker 2: they knew how to separate it. And you could tell
Speaker 2: in the books that like sometimes especially with Socrates and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. It's interesting that you bring up the
Speaker 2: word demon, because I don't look at demons like other
Speaker 2: people look at Ever since I read George Lamontad not
Speaker 2: George Plato's book, what is it called shit credit? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think no, I think it's creditless creditlest c R
Speaker 2: T Y l U S. And it's with us Socrates
Speaker 2: about how he was talking with or how Socrates was
Speaker 2: talking and having a debate, and in there it actually
Speaker 2: says that according to them the Greeks, Plato and Socrates
Speaker 2: and demons were considered and they were also known as
Speaker 2: Damon's you know that they were considered wise men, men
Speaker 2: who died honorably. Okay, these were men who were wise
Speaker 2: or men who died honorably. Yes. And you know I
Speaker 2: shared on Twitter x all the time when somebody brings
Speaker 2: up the word demon, I took a picture of the
Speaker 2: page and all that other stuff. And it's just interesting
Speaker 2: to me to know that the Greeks at one time
Speaker 2: considered them wise men. Because when you look at when
Speaker 2: you was talking about just about forty five minutes ago,
Speaker 2: you had mentioned that the serpents were what knowledge givers.
Speaker 2: Basically in so many words, that's what you said, and
Speaker 2: if you really look at it, every serpent that we
Speaker 2: have in history, from the garden of eating, you know,
Speaker 2: the forbidden fruit, to the serpents coming from the waters
Speaker 2: from the dog One tribe, right, the reptilions or whatever
Speaker 2: people want to call them. These are the individuals that
Speaker 2: was giving knowledge to us. Prometheus when he gave fire
Speaker 2: to us, the best technology that we can have as
Speaker 2: man is fire. If you look at that, the other
Speaker 2: guys didn't want us to have that. They wanted us
Speaker 2: to live naked and cold. Think about that for a second.
Speaker 2: God had a garden of Eden where he only allowed
Speaker 2: people to wear their only their birthday suits. I mean
Speaker 2: that he wanted to see everything, and he wasn't the
Speaker 2: all knowing guy. And I tell you why he wasn't
Speaker 2: the all knowing God. Because when Adam and Eve ate
Speaker 2: from that tree of Knowledge and they heard God walking
Speaker 2: through the garden of Eden, what was the first thing
Speaker 2: they went to go do. They went to go hide
Speaker 2: behind a tree or bush. When they went to go
Speaker 2: hide from in the tree of bush or behind the
Speaker 2: tree or the bush, God asked them, who told you
Speaker 2: that you were naked? If you're the all knowing God,
Speaker 2: then ain't nobody got it? That's not a question you
Speaker 2: have to you have to ask. You would have known
Speaker 2: that as soon as it happened.
Speaker 3: There there's a lot of them the story, dude, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of holes in the story. It's like Swiss cheese, brother,
Speaker 3: you can't figure out which fucking hole is going to
Speaker 3: be next in the slice of cheese that you get.
Speaker 3: You don't know if you're gonna have a big ass
Speaker 3: hole in the middle off you're going to have these
Speaker 3: little small cheeses.
Speaker 8: It's always been confusing that when Cain was banished from
Speaker 8: you know, his parents, you know he killed Abel, He's like,
Speaker 8: fuck it, I'm gonna go into the city then and
Speaker 8: get a wife and start a family.
Speaker 6: But everybody hated them, like who are these people? So
Speaker 6: it's it's like there's a lot of things that just
Speaker 6: don't make sense there. And of course a.
Speaker 8: Lot of it is is oligory, but I mean, for
Speaker 8: what it's worth, anything that's meant to be literal is
Speaker 8: very strange, and it, yeah, it doesn't make a lot
Speaker 8: of sense. And to be frank, the entire Old Testament
Speaker 8: God was not only a deck but kind of a perf.
Speaker 6: It's really weird.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy you say that because I still
Speaker 2: can't understand how some people and it just might be
Speaker 2: a little bit touchy for some people, but I just
Speaker 2: don't understand how some people can say that it's Okay
Speaker 2: for what God did to the Virgin Mary, and I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna leave that at there.
Speaker 6: I'm well, you've peaked my curiosity.
Speaker 2: Then, well, the Virgin Mary was fourteen, fifteen years old
Speaker 2: when she had Jesus, right, that's rough, Right, that's a minor.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well they.
Speaker 2: All powerful, They all powerful, the all knowing chose the mine.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't make sense. Why couldn't he wait till she
Speaker 2: was at least an adult?
Speaker 6: That's very interesting. I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 8: Damn, immaculate conception isn't a lot of different cultures, but
Speaker 8: a child. Yeah, a fourteen year old girl can't even
Speaker 8: she ain't even got the titty, the breastfeet at that point, Like,
Speaker 8: how does that even work?
Speaker 6: That's interesting, you know?
Speaker 2: And I say that because I read this book called
Speaker 2: the City of God or from Mary of agretas these
Speaker 2: books from the sixteen hundred seventeen hundreds, it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be her. It's her divine intervention with the Virgin Mary herself. Basically,
Speaker 2: the Virgin Mary came to her and basically gave her
Speaker 2: all this information. So it's supposed to be a history
Speaker 2: of the Virgin Mary from the time that she was
Speaker 2: chosen by God to be the carrier of Jesus all
Speaker 2: the way to the end of the Crucifixius Crucifixus, Crucifixion
Speaker 2: of Jesus. And it's supposed to be a life story.
Speaker 2: And in that book, it says in there that Jesus
Speaker 2: chose Mary before he even knew, before Mary was even created.
Speaker 2: He knew what Mary was going to be, just like
Speaker 2: how he knew how we were going to be.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: He chose her for a specific reason. She was supposed
Speaker 2: to be his wife after she left earth, because she
Speaker 2: was supposed to be, you know, next to God the throne.
Speaker 2: That's why she's known as the queen of heaven. How
Speaker 2: can you be a queen of heaven if you don't
Speaker 2: have a king. Her king was God. And it's just
Speaker 2: the same individual as Ishtar and in Nana. You look
Speaker 2: at Istar in Nana in the Mesopotamian text, they both
Speaker 2: are also known as the Queen of Heaven. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: wild and they and they hedn't And in the book
Speaker 2: it says that he and I did a podcast episode
Speaker 2: on and I'm going to go over and do it again.
Speaker 2: I got her information from it. But he chose her
Speaker 2: for a specific reason, the timing, the place, the how
Speaker 2: all that right, And remember when I was telling you
Speaker 2: about how Jesus was upset about how simple fact that
Speaker 2: he was tired of people abusing women, children and the elderly.
Speaker 2: Well he found that because just to keep it simple,
Speaker 2: Mary wasn't. Mary worked in the temple when she was young.
Speaker 2: She got pregnant in that temple. Okay, nobody knows exactly
Speaker 2: by who. They say, it's God. That's their their gateway,
Speaker 2: right saying God is the one that the immaculate conceptions
Speaker 2: is on on on God. But the thing is is
Speaker 2: that she worked at a temple. At that time frame,
Speaker 2: every child had to work in the temple of some sort,
Speaker 2: either by different different way, different things they had to do.
Speaker 2: But she was when she got pregnant. Of course, you know,
Speaker 2: the whole story came up. And even Joseph, you know,
Speaker 2: he didn't even know she was pregnant. He didn't know
Speaker 2: she was pregnant until she started showing. He wanted to
Speaker 2: leave her, right.
Speaker 13: Because I don't blame them, you know, yeah, you know so,
Speaker 13: And and that's why I say, you know, Jesus was
Speaker 13: upset because he I mean think he was really telling
Speaker 13: people stop abusing you know, women, children and elderly.
Speaker 2: And it's because he found out what was happening to
Speaker 2: his mother right when she was at that age.
Speaker 6: He knew.
Speaker 2: Got You gotta also remember who did Jesus hang out with.
Speaker 2: He didn't hang out with engineers, people who had their
Speaker 2: ship together. He hung out with people who were prostitutes
Speaker 2: and alcoholics and thieves.
Speaker 6: That's who he hung out with.
Speaker 8: Interjects real quick. Just the people in the chat mentioning
Speaker 8: a'm and Hillman just don't but sorry, I had to
Speaker 8: get that in there. He's that that she's a shock rocker,
Speaker 8: these out to shock people with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it, because I guarantee you the cult
Speaker 5: rejects will never come out of his fucking mouth. So
Speaker 5: I don't want people you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 5: talk about him either.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't even want to mention his name.
Speaker 5: But that guy's actually you know what, straight up, that
Speaker 5: guy's actually asked me about five times to come on
Speaker 5: the show ever answer.
Speaker 6: He's a nonsense individual.
Speaker 8: He's proof that you can say very shocking things and
Speaker 8: just get a lot of attention.
Speaker 6: And I think it's dying down for quick for him but.
Speaker 4: Oh, you come out and so I used to work
Speaker 4: for the CIA with the fuck.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's weird, dude.
Speaker 8: But now the whole the Jesus archetype with what you're
Speaker 8: saying is I think it's spot on.
Speaker 6: But it's one of those another one of those things
Speaker 6: that it's uncomfortable to think about. But you're right.
Speaker 8: Jesus did not hang out with the rich. He did
Speaker 8: not hang out with good to do people with nice shoes.
Speaker 8: He hung out with the underbelly of society, and that's
Speaker 8: that's where he found company. And he made it clear
Speaker 8: too that his God preferred the felon who became righteous
Speaker 8: versus the person who was raised right maintaining their righteousness,
Speaker 8: which translating today is not such a shocker, because what's
Speaker 8: what is a more inspiring story a man who graduates
Speaker 8: college and then becomes a CEO or the felon who
Speaker 8: gets out of prison and then goes on to become
Speaker 8: a ce you know, because he had to climb some
Speaker 8: really difficult hills. That's that could be a movie, that
Speaker 8: latter one, you know. So that's that God and Jesus,
Speaker 8: as a reflection of whatever his God was preferred the
Speaker 8: meek the people who had it harder than anybody else,
Speaker 8: you know, which is a weird thing to relate to David.
Speaker 6: Goggins, but that's kind of the philosophy there.
Speaker 8: Is that if you are in a position, born in
Speaker 8: a position where you have life is going to be
Speaker 8: harder for you than it is for this guy.
Speaker 6: Not then do it, do that hard shit, whatever.
Speaker 8: It takes, and surpass that person, because that is a
Speaker 8: story that you cannot fake.
Speaker 6: That's a story that you cannot That's alchemy right there.
Speaker 8: That's what the real hero's journey is all about, is
Speaker 8: going from these low places, from the valley to the mountain.
Speaker 6: If you're born on the mountain, you have you. You
Speaker 6: don't have a story.
Speaker 8: So really you don't really have a soul in whatever
Speaker 8: regard of the word soul that you would I'm not
Speaker 8: talking about like what do they call it, Pete PNG's
Speaker 8: or something like that, whatever they say. I don't believe
Speaker 8: in those. But what I'm saying to metaphorically speaking, is
Speaker 8: that the man who has to work and sacrifice and
Speaker 8: himself to become closer to God is the real inspiring
Speaker 8: story which Jesus talked about. But not only did he
Speaker 8: talk about but he embodied that to the full extent.
Speaker 8: People are always confused about the crucifixion, and even you'll
Speaker 8: see a lot of comedians talk about how weird that
Speaker 8: story is that he died for our sins or whatever.
Speaker 6: And they're like, how does that equate? How does that work?
Speaker 8: It is very confusing if you're just looking at the
Speaker 8: canonical scriptures. But man, if you bring the Gnostic scriptures
Speaker 8: into it, and we are assuming that there are forces
Speaker 8: at work that wants to digest our suffering, well, the
Speaker 8: only way to save an earth, realm, humanity, whatever it is,
Speaker 8: would be to absorb all of that suffering yourself into
Speaker 8: one lifetime. That way, you can actually give people a chance.
Speaker 8: Because original sin isn't something that humans are guilty of.
Speaker 8: Original sin is something that we are born into, not
Speaker 8: because of Adam and Eve, but because we have flesh
Speaker 8: and blood and we have to survive.
Speaker 6: Here. We can't just relax up like in the Pleromo.
Speaker 8: Where these these AONs and these entities they live and
Speaker 8: they can live out their sheer creative force with intentions
Speaker 8: we can't even imagine so complex that it.
Speaker 6: Leaves us in the dust.
Speaker 8: Because no matter how creative we are in this realm.
Speaker 8: We're still bound to a body that needs to be sustained,
Speaker 8: that requires us.
Speaker 6: Tess that has to eat, has to sleep, it has
Speaker 6: to work in order to survive.
Speaker 8: The Gnostic scripture is I don't think are they're not
Speaker 8: anti Christian.
Speaker 6: In fact, I think they're preliminary to the canon.
Speaker 4: They should definitely be included. They should definitely be included.
Speaker 5: They Yeah, that one's pretty well too.
Speaker 8: I want to look at the Council of Nicea's edits
Speaker 8: and see, because if you go to Oxford and England,
Speaker 8: they have the records there, uh that the council and
Speaker 8: dude me and you should go up there for real
Speaker 8: and with your travels, like I'd love to join.
Speaker 6: You and look get there because no one cares. Nobody
Speaker 6: looks for these things.
Speaker 8: But the canon that was decided for the Bible was
Speaker 8: decided by the Council of Nicea, and those dudes kept record.
Speaker 6: They kept tight records.
Speaker 8: And notes of why they choose certain books over other
Speaker 8: books and why they made edits. For example, they when
Speaker 8: demon uh, whenever Christ showed up one day because there's
Speaker 8: this demon that John or who he couldn't I'm gonna
Speaker 8: get the name wrong. John couldn't exercise this particular demon
Speaker 8: out of this dude, And it says, oh, this particular
Speaker 8: demon can only.
Speaker 6: Be exercised through prayer. He has to pray.
Speaker 8: It was not prayer originally it was fasting, and then
Speaker 8: the Council of Nicea changed it from fasting to prayer
Speaker 8: to make it holy because they are like, the reason
Speaker 8: for it, we don't.
Speaker 6: Know, but I bet you if you look it up,
Speaker 6: they're like, this doesn't make sense. You's not gonna eat that.
Speaker 6: That makes sense.
Speaker 8: Fast forward to today, we understand that we have gut biome.
Speaker 8: We have like bacteria in our guts that controls our appetite,
Speaker 8: our moods our dopamine.
Speaker 4: To think about.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Jesus was a position saying you got parasites, bitch,
Speaker 8: you got fast to get rid of those things because
Speaker 8: they're making you a crazy person.
Speaker 6: And I know a lot of guys.
Speaker 8: Eating TV dinners every day who could use a little
Speaker 8: extra themselves for real plastic.
Speaker 7: Well, when you talk about that, that's really interesting. When
Speaker 7: you look into the types of food that they talk
Speaker 7: about in the Bible when they're out in the desert,
Speaker 7: how they have find manna and honey and milk, and
Speaker 7: what it really is is raw milk. It's not the
Speaker 7: you know, the pasteurized milk that we during today. When
Speaker 7: you look at the foods that they were eating in
Speaker 7: the Bible and the foods that are mentioned and how
Speaker 7: many times they're mentioned to your point with fasting and
Speaker 7: resetting that gut biome, it's really interesting. You know, Honey
Speaker 7: is one of the best antibacterial, anti viral almost, like
Speaker 7: I mean, it just has so many benefits to it, right,
Speaker 7: and it's fermented and all the benefits of fermented food.
Speaker 7: I've been drinking my kombucha while we're while we're talking, So.
Speaker 8: I love that milk and honey is like is a cornerstone,
Speaker 8: and especially when you consider breast milk.
Speaker 6: Breast milk it.
Speaker 8: Like I forgot exactly how it goes, but it finds
Speaker 8: out the baby needs. So whenever the baby is breastfeeding,
Speaker 8: there's an exchange in the saliva with her nipple and
Speaker 8: then her DNA picks up on what the baby needs
Speaker 8: and then her body literally produces in that milk exactly
Speaker 8: what it is that baby needs. And what are we
Speaker 8: doing instead we're feeding our baby's lead in formula. Some
Speaker 8: kind of cookie cutter of one size fits all. Meanwhile,
Speaker 8: the female breast literally creates a specific formula to that
Speaker 8: individual baby. And we're ignoring a lot of those things.
Speaker 8: And if you go to buy honey at the supermarket,
Speaker 8: it ain't honey you gotta get. You have to turn
Speaker 8: the damn thing around and find the one on the
Speaker 8: back that says ingredients honey. It's like maple syrup at
Speaker 8: this point, it ain't.
Speaker 6: It's sad. I wonder what manna was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is really could tell you. I was talking
Speaker 2: about this the other day. So when you read the Bible,
Speaker 2: man and we know that it's supposed to help sustain
Speaker 2: the life of the Israelites who traveled to forty you know,
Speaker 2: forty years or whatnot, right, And what's interesting about oh shoot,
Speaker 2: what's interesting about them is that when you look up
Speaker 2: the word mana and the strong cocordance, right, if you
Speaker 2: go in there and look at the strong succordance, you
Speaker 2: would see that mana means man. It doesn't mean anything
Speaker 2: else like bread or something like that. If you go
Speaker 2: to strong subcordance and you type in mana, it means
Speaker 2: man m A N. So that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't like where this is going.
Speaker 5: Last time I got remember you showed that ship one time? Actually,
Speaker 5: I forgot all about that. Yeah, yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 5: I think he pulled it up on line too.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, for sure did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds like.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I'm saying. Just think about that
Speaker 2: or I don't know which is worst.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking of the same ship.
Speaker 6: I always thought about, like the mushrooms or whatever.
Speaker 8: I know that there was a lot of mushroom literature
Speaker 8: and a lot of mushroom iconography back then, but I
Speaker 8: don't know. Mana wasn't described in any way, shape or
Speaker 8: form like a mushroom. But I know that the mushroom
Speaker 8: iconography goes back like a very long ass time.
Speaker 6: People equated to like the Garden of Eden and stuff
Speaker 6: like that. But that's it's a It's a good question though.
Speaker 8: I want to he kind of disappeared, but I want
Speaker 8: to know what's going on with the Mana thing.
Speaker 2: Oh there he is, No, I'm here, I'm here. I
Speaker 2: had dropped my air bud on one of my earbuds.
Speaker 8: But so what's the interpretation there? Like why why were
Speaker 8: they sustain there eating man like that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to figure out because I wanted
Speaker 2: to know what Mana was, right, Like, if anybody that
Speaker 2: knows me knows that, I want to know the origins
Speaker 2: of everything, especially when it comes to words. I literally
Speaker 2: have a dictionary, etymology, jactionary and all this stuff. I
Speaker 2: want to know what the meaning of the words were.
Speaker 2: So everybody was where my research. Everybody's like, Oh, we
Speaker 2: don't know what mana is. Blah blah blah, Na Manna.
Speaker 2: We don't know what it is. We can't figure it out,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. We know it's a bread like substance
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. I'm like, Okay, Well, in
Speaker 2: those times, bread like substance meant food is bread. Instead
Speaker 2: of using the word food like we would today, they
Speaker 2: would just say bread right, right, right, So that I
Speaker 2: understand where they got that from. So what I did
Speaker 2: was I went back to the origins of the text,
Speaker 2: the Hebrew, right, ancient Hebrew. And when you go to
Speaker 2: ancient Hebrew and the Aramaic and you go to the
Speaker 2: Greek subtuagen or the Greek text. The Greek text is
Speaker 2: basically a translation from the Arab, Arabic and Hebrew texts. Right. So,
Speaker 2: and they have what's called the strongs concordant. So this
Speaker 2: is every word that you you can find in the
Speaker 2: Bible that has a meaning to it, a true meaning
Speaker 2: to it. It's just basically the etymology of the Bible, basically, right.
Speaker 2: So what I did was I went to the strongs
Speaker 2: concordance and I typed in mana. You can go to
Speaker 2: Bible hub dot com or org I think it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's Bible Hub dot COMY go check real quick.
Speaker 2: But anyway, you can go to the Bible Hub and
Speaker 2: uh if you type in mana, right, yes, biblehub dot com.
Speaker 2: If you type in mana or in the strongest concordance,
Speaker 2: you go to the strong concordance too. If you type
Speaker 2: in mana, you will see that it literally says m
Speaker 2: a n man. It was man. So every time they
Speaker 2: put in the word mana instead of rena, you would
Speaker 2: read man. So when they say God supplied, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lifes with mana. They supplied them with man.
Speaker 6: Yeah or whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't take the Bible ordeal anyway, so it doesn't
Speaker 4: apply to me.
Speaker 2: They don't apply to me either, because I don't read
Speaker 2: so many different versions, I don't know which one is
Speaker 2: the most accurate at this point.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Joey as Oh, you know what, we'll
Speaker 5: have everybody else plug stuff before we wrap it.
Speaker 4: Up, Brooke.
Speaker 5: Let everybody know what's up, when, when you're speaking and
Speaker 5: where again.
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, thank you again for having me tonight. This
Speaker 7: has been great. It's so nice to meet you, Joey.
Speaker 7: You can find me at Charlie's Beyond Belief Expo in
Speaker 7: Fort Myers, Florida, on October eighteenth. I'll be speaking there.
Speaker 7: Occult Rejects will also have a booth. Come hang. It's
Speaker 7: going to be an amazing event. And in the meantime,
Speaker 7: if you want to keep up with what I'm doing,
Speaker 7: go ahead and follow me on Instagram at Dark Florida
Speaker 7: podcast on YouTube Dark Florida and wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, And it's Hyrone. Let him know what's
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 2: Man, Hey, this is a good show, Joey. I really
Speaker 2: appreciate Nick. Thank you for letting me come on. Everything
Speaker 2: that you can find on me is on rebirth atword
Speaker 2: dot com. I love sharing what I've learned what I've
Speaker 2: read and what I've researched. I don't go beyond that.
Speaker 2: I just share with the actual text, say that I
Speaker 2: took the time to read and go from there. I
Speaker 2: have a Rumbo account which I'm building my own you know,
Speaker 2: quote unquote documentary, uh of places that I've actually visited.
Speaker 2: Got tired of the AI stuff and all that, And
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be going on some trips with Nick.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to these trips. I'm definitely gonna make them.
Speaker 2: I already want so if you want to speak to
Speaker 2: me and me and Nick probably going to have some
Speaker 2: some interviews out there.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely I wanted to try to get there.
Speaker 2: We're going to do some stuff. So yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that's it, man. I really appreciate this, Nick. This was
Speaker 2: actually you know, this is this is This was a
Speaker 2: good show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I always like getting Joey on man. It's
Speaker 4: always it's always great stuff. Joey. Please let everybody know
Speaker 4: what's going on.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 8: Well, just besides the Library of the Untold on YouTube,
Speaker 8: which is actually I got it easier way now if
Speaker 8: you go through the Library of the Untold, just that simple,
Speaker 8: all of my episodes are literally in order from newest
Speaker 8: to oldest, and I found that to be everyone's always
Speaker 8: in the comments like when did you refer to this video?
Speaker 8: Or what was the one on plasma that you did,
Speaker 8: blah blah blah. So I decided to put them all
Speaker 8: in order from newest to oldest on library untold dot com.
Speaker 8: And with that you get a bonus because all of
Speaker 8: my music videos and lyric videos are also right there.
Speaker 8: It's just all in one spot.
Speaker 4: Listen. Thank you very much, man man, I really appreciate
Speaker 4: it and pleasure.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hell yeah, and thank you. There was there
Speaker 5: was some new people too that I said that I
Speaker 5: saw that came over here from your channel whatever they
Speaker 5: were from you, So that's what's up.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: I'm starting to make a habit now, is uh.
Speaker 8: Every time it's a it's a coincidence, maybe a synchronicity,
Speaker 8: but every time we hit each other.
Speaker 6: Up, I happen to be going into a new subject.
Speaker 8: So it's like I get to practice here first before
Speaker 8: I go to make an actual video on it.
Speaker 4: So that's funny here and here first, awesome. Thank you.
Speaker 5: You know, I remember you did that last time too.
Speaker 5: That's funny asking you there you go, you got anything
Speaker 5: going on? You're like, actually, yeah, awesome. So yeah, perfect
Speaker 5: timing always, but uh yeah, thank you again all and
Speaker 5: thank you everybody in the chat. That is what's up
Speaker 5: and uh yeah until the next one, everybody be well
Speaker 5: later bye,