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Speaker 2: I found my daughter and my wife. Somebody killed them
Speaker 2: in the apartment. They have been murdered.
Speaker 1: It's a little before six pm on a Saturday in Englewood, Colorado.
Speaker 1: It's sunny but still frigid. It's the end of March
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and two local Englewood, Colorado police deputies
Speaker 1: are sitting in their cruiser. They're just talking and looking
Speaker 1: over some paperwork. Really. Officer Alouise has been with the
Speaker 1: force for a few years now. Today he's got a
Speaker 1: trainee with him. Englewood is in the heart of the
Speaker 1: Denver metropolitan area. There are over thirty thousand residents and
Speaker 1: a typical crime rate which consists of basically two things,
Speaker 1: robberies and drug related incidents. Maybe a few traffic violations
Speaker 1: sprinkled in there as well. Neither Officer Aloise nor his
Speaker 1: trainee are expecting any crazy calls today, let alone a
Speaker 1: double homicide and a luxury apartment complex.
Speaker 3: Nineteerho one englel Parkway is going to be a unit
Speaker 3: and in the Nancy three eight right.
Speaker 1: He's got the cord to his radio wrapped around his finger,
Speaker 1: fidgeting with it as he listens to dispatch Go ahead.
Speaker 3: RV states his wife and daughter are deceased. He thinks
Speaker 3: they might have been hurtin to it. The wife is
Speaker 3: seventy years old and the daughter is thirty four. RV
Speaker 3: THINGSOS suspect and we're still getting further.
Speaker 1: They'll be heading to a complex called art Walk at
Speaker 1: City Center. Sounds fancy. There are one and two bedroom
Speaker 1: apartments that go upwards of two thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1: It's usually pretty quiet over there.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be on the north.
Speaker 2: Then get a hold off is Kara.
Speaker 5: Hey, it's Chually from Inglewood. We're not sure what we have,
Speaker 5: but we need you to stage for right now. We
Speaker 5: might have two people that were killed inside of an
Speaker 5: apartment nine o one Inglewood Parkway. So this is like
Speaker 5: a homicide and it's like, yeah, well, I don't know.
Speaker 5: He thinks it's his nephew. He thinks they're both dead,
Speaker 5: seventy and thirty four. I have a ton of officers
Speaker 5: going as I'm sure.
Speaker 1: You know this is the nine to one one call
Speaker 1: that had come in just moments before.
Speaker 2: Nine one one.
Speaker 6: Where's your emergency?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, ma'am, this is Reggie McLaren. I'm calling from
Speaker 2: art Walk apartment. The apartment and Crew eight. I came
Speaker 2: around three o'clock and I phoned my wife and my
Speaker 2: daughter murdered. I'm sorry why I found my daughter and
Speaker 2: my wife. Somebody killed them in the apartment. They have
Speaker 2: been murdered.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 6: How do you know that they're dead?
Speaker 2: Well, I am here. They are dead, you know, because
Speaker 2: the guy who ever entered, he was trying to take
Speaker 2: them in a trash can or take away, but he
Speaker 2: couldn't do it. So I just your.
Speaker 6: Wife and daughter still inside the apartment.
Speaker 2: Inside the apartment, okay.
Speaker 6: How old are they?
Speaker 2: Wife is seventeen years old.
Speaker 6: Okay, and your daughter daughter.
Speaker 2: Is about thirty four years old. And what is your name, Reginald?
Speaker 6: That's your name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my name, Reginald McLaren.
Speaker 6: Okay, And are you in the hallway.
Speaker 2: No, I'm going in the holidacause I want to put
Speaker 2: on my jacket. It's very cool.
Speaker 6: Okay. My officers are there though, and they need you
Speaker 6: to not be in the apartment.
Speaker 8: Okay.
Speaker 1: Well, at the same time, officer Alouise and his trainee
Speaker 1: were running up the stairs to unit and three oh eight.
Speaker 9: Hey, Honnie, I think it's inside.
Speaker 1: Which where do you go?
Speaker 4: Do you go that way? Look out?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: What are we going to?
Speaker 1: When they finally get to that unit, the hallway is
Speaker 1: absolutely silent. There isn't a person in sight. They cautiously
Speaker 1: approached the apartment door, hoping they won't have to break
Speaker 1: it down.
Speaker 10: To confirm me as an Ancyright, please.
Speaker 9: Tomorrow, it's your hands.
Speaker 4: Step outside, step outside.
Speaker 1: They're bracing themselves for a potential showdown with whoever murdered
Speaker 1: this man's family, but instead it's the caller himself who
Speaker 1: answers the door. He's still on the phone with dispatch.
Speaker 6: So let me know when you stepped out into the hallway,
Speaker 6: because my officers are going to meet you in the hallway. Welky,
Speaker 6: how long ago did you find them? What time did
Speaker 6: you come home and find them?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 6: And you're in Nancy.
Speaker 11: You go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The man who emerges is frail and hunched over, clutching
Speaker 1: his jacket. Reginald McLaren is eighty one years old, and
Speaker 1: the stress of this situation is making him look even older.
Speaker 1: He's a normal old man, except for the distant look
Speaker 1: in his eyes and a name that doesn't match his accent.
Speaker 1: He doesn't seem injured, just stunned. Officers help him out
Speaker 1: of the apartment and plan to take him back to
Speaker 1: the station to ask a few more questions.
Speaker 12: Yeah, who's the on call of the technics? Sergeant and
Speaker 12: on call staff? You pick a bad time to be
Speaker 12: on call, supervisor. It looks like a double homicide.
Speaker 1: The new trainee stands guard at the front door while
Speaker 1: Reginald gets a pat down in the hallway. Meanwhile, the
Speaker 1: handful of officers inside are getting a taste of what
Speaker 1: they'll be dealing with right away. They know it'll be
Speaker 1: more than their little police department can handle.
Speaker 4: Fuck Carver's cancer.
Speaker 13: Fine, yeah, Jesus, Jesus, Chris, there's a closet.
Speaker 10: Tell us it's like at this one confirm too? There's two?
Speaker 4: Do you want me to stay inside with?
Speaker 10: Inside?
Speaker 1: The apartment isn't chaotic? It looks like they're in mid move.
Speaker 1: Boxes are stacked neatly in corners, some are sealed, others
Speaker 1: are half packed with clothes. And books still visible inside
Speaker 1: long on their sides. In the living room are two
Speaker 1: oversized black roller trash cans. The lids are open. With
Speaker 1: his gun and flashlight drawn, one of the officers carefully
Speaker 1: steps over to one of the bins and leans down
Speaker 1: so he can see inside. Immediately you can see clothing, skin, limbs,
Speaker 1: and blood. Both of the victims are women. They've been
Speaker 1: stuffed inside head first. Their arms and legs are bent unnaturally.
Speaker 1: One of the women's legs hangs partially outside its plastic vessel.
Speaker 1: There's a towel covering part of the first victim's body.
Speaker 1: Blood is pooled beneath her. The second woman is positioned
Speaker 1: mostly face down. Neither is moving. The officers don't touch
Speaker 1: the bodies. They don't try CPR. It's already too late.
Speaker 12: Double homicide UH nine oh one in wood Parkway and
Speaker 12: is in Nora three zero eight in the apartment number.
Speaker 12: Sounds like husband came home, finds his wife and daughter deceased.
Speaker 12: They both have been shoved into a trash can a piece,
Speaker 12: so it looks like by all appearances, it looked like
Speaker 12: whoever did this was trying to put the bodies in
Speaker 12: a trash can and take them whoever. Husband seems to
Speaker 12: think he knows who did it. We're trying to talk
Speaker 12: with him. He's pretty shook up, obviously, but you might
Speaker 12: want to call the troops. Anouncer surveillance in a building number.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 10: They just definitely coming blood.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 12: And if you look underneath the those bed sheets and
Speaker 12: pillows covered in blood, and they probably not think they
Speaker 12: were hiding something as well.
Speaker 10: Just for our safety, I asked where the suspects could
Speaker 10: live here as to where I said they might aid
Speaker 10: seventy as Jefferson on the station. That's a little part it. Okay,
Speaker 10: they're all game bangers, according to him.
Speaker 1: Blood spatters fleck the walls, A pillow soaked in blood
Speaker 1: lays on the floor near the couch. In a utility
Speaker 1: closet behind the love seat, they find a knaxe and
Speaker 1: what looks like strains of black hair caught in the blade.
Speaker 1: A handsaw rests nearby. The kitchen sink has hair and
Speaker 1: blood in the basin. The rest of the unit looks
Speaker 1: oddly clean. Just before a deputy is about to drive
Speaker 1: Reginald to the police station to get a formal statement,
Speaker 1: he complains of chest pain. He explains that he has
Speaker 1: a history of heart attacks and has recently had open
Speaker 1: heart surgery. He's eighty one years old. After all, finding
Speaker 1: your wife and daughter brutally murdered is asking for another incident. Luckily,
Speaker 1: paramedics are just arriving. Out of caution, officers have him
Speaker 1: transported to Swedish Medical Center for evaluation. An officer is
Speaker 1: assigned to sit outside his room. If Reginald is right,
Speaker 1: if this really is about his gang banging nephews, then
Speaker 1: he might not be safe even in a hospital. On
Speaker 1: March fifth, twenty twenty three, year old Reginald McLaren called
Speaker 1: nine one one after discovering his wife and daughter murdered
Speaker 1: inside their Englewood, Colorado apartment. The police department and emergency
Speaker 1: dispatch were wholly unprepared to deal with this situation. Dispatch
Speaker 1: scrambled trying to figure out how to get in contact
Speaker 1: with the State crime scene Unit. Officer Aloise's Traynee frantically
Speaker 1: scribbled names into the crime scene log as personnel swept
Speaker 1: in and out of the apartment. A lot of these
Speaker 1: responders were newbies, doing their absolute best. The crime scene
Speaker 1: was now sealed. The victims had been officially pronounced dead.
Speaker 1: Reginald was under observation at Swedish Medical Center, and if
Speaker 1: Reginald's nephews were involved, then time was already working against them.
Speaker 1: As the investigation unfolded, neighbors started noticing it was dinner
Speaker 1: time for most people, and this group of cops who
Speaker 1: were jingling their keys and talking to the hall was
Speaker 1: starting to draw a little bit of attention.
Speaker 4: So the notes saying that wife and daughter, who's the
Speaker 4: guy who's king out of here?
Speaker 14: That's the wife or the husband and dad and said
Speaker 14: you think she knows who it is? Something about a hammer,
Speaker 14: So I gotta going back.
Speaker 4: To the station.
Speaker 12: We probably need to do at least a quick miranda
Speaker 12: on him and just talk to him and see what
Speaker 12: information we can give. If this suspects out, you know
Speaker 12: what about who's under days in the public, then you
Speaker 12: find that out as quickly as possible.
Speaker 4: How does he know this?
Speaker 10: You know, how does he know he knows who did it?
Speaker 4: That type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 10: Mirandizing really quick to see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, can come in.
Speaker 1: Have you guys.
Speaker 4: Hurt anything suspicious or anything.
Speaker 1: With your neighbors saw.
Speaker 6: Him that's around.
Speaker 9: Like, so when did I leave.
Speaker 15: I went to the liquor store around like three or four,
Speaker 15: and he was leaving. He locked his apartment and was
Speaker 15: locking in his car, and then I got in my
Speaker 15: car and then I saw him come back around like
Speaker 15: three o'clock, three or four.
Speaker 10: Whenever I have texted you, can we get that?
Speaker 4: Can we get that text?
Speaker 16: See?
Speaker 11: What was?
Speaker 10: Did you guys hear anything? And they're supposed to be
Speaker 10: moving soon.
Speaker 17: It's told me they're super nice.
Speaker 4: Okay. Did you know the daughter and the is he
Speaker 4: the husband?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I know there's a daughter, a husband, and what right
Speaker 10: I think?
Speaker 4: I don't they Have you ever seen any like disturbances?
Speaker 18: No?
Speaker 17: I heard talking a lot in the hall, and I've
Speaker 17: heard doors slam, but I thought that they were moving
Speaker 17: and it was just kind.
Speaker 9: Of okay, yeah, daughter, No, I don't know.
Speaker 10: I haven't seen them in a while.
Speaker 4: I only see him.
Speaker 9: I saw him and daughter. Okay.
Speaker 15: The last time I saw them, I can tell you
Speaker 15: exactly because the fire alarm went off here and I
Speaker 15: saw them.
Speaker 4: Leaving and I they were expressing like problems.
Speaker 16: Nothing.
Speaker 10: They've always been super nice.
Speaker 19: I ever thought, never said like watch out for a
Speaker 19: suspicious person.
Speaker 9: Okay, I saw them on Tuesday.
Speaker 10: I saw the daughter. Oh yeah, because you said.
Speaker 20: Yeah.
Speaker 21: They had their door open and they were cooking food
Speaker 21: and I started and it smelt really good, and so
Speaker 21: I looked in and I saw him.
Speaker 10: Assuming it's a daughter, she looked younger.
Speaker 1: Yep, this is what they heard on repeat from all
Speaker 1: the neighbors. No one knew the family, well, no one
Speaker 1: even knew their names, but they could always smell delicious
Speaker 1: food coming from their open door.
Speaker 4: I see them all the time.
Speaker 10: They've seen fairly friendly. They well, the guy speaks a
Speaker 10: woman not so much. See Maybey just kind of come
Speaker 10: in and out. I think he works an artid or
Speaker 10: i'd go to like like the light rail or something
Speaker 10: like that.
Speaker 4: He always on the archide or the light rail stuff. Okay,
Speaker 4: and the mom, I don't.
Speaker 10: Really see that much at times. They cook things and
Speaker 10: so I kind of think they have to hear out
Speaker 10: their apartment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's your other neighbor said, like they lea their
Speaker 4: door open and you can smell it smell.
Speaker 10: Haven't heard any like issues or plants, or.
Speaker 4: You haven't heard anything non angines allowed or bang that
Speaker 4: I'm aware of. Okay, since Wednesday, you haven't seen anybody.
Speaker 9: No, Yeah, I hope they're okay, but well it.
Speaker 4: Could be one hundred percent honest with you.
Speaker 18: Mom and daughter are deceased, and so we're trying to
Speaker 18: figure out what is going on. So that's why I'm
Speaker 18: asking you so many Yeah, okay, oh yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 18: guess I could have let that before I started asking
Speaker 18: when are you coming back? Yeah, So we're trying to
Speaker 18: figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1: Police continued canvassing nearby units. One day, who lived just
Speaker 1: a few doors Dwan from the family, told officers he
Speaker 1: remembered running into Reginald in the parking lot.
Speaker 4: I don't even know dude's name, I says, Jim.
Speaker 22: Yeah, he uh sorry. He came over to me the
Speaker 22: other day. I was smoking in the garage and he
Speaker 22: was like, can you give me a favor? We're moving
Speaker 22: on on Saturday.
Speaker 11: I was like okay.
Speaker 10: He was like, if it's after hours, can I drop
Speaker 10: off the keys? See you? And I was like okay,
Speaker 10: I told my parking number. Then he saw him walking
Speaker 10: around this morning and I did hear all this ship?
Speaker 4: Did you ever make a plan to leave the keys
Speaker 4: of you need to put any points? He just said
Speaker 4: if he had.
Speaker 10: To drop them off.
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't say he was going overseas.
Speaker 18: I thought he was going to come back.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 4: Did you ever see his wife and daughter? The last
Speaker 4: time you saw them.
Speaker 14: Yesterday and he never met Did he ever mention anything
Speaker 14: about that when he said they were moving overseas.
Speaker 22: But I did say I'm going overseas, so I didn't.
Speaker 4: Like I'm as in singular? Yeah, I said, okay.
Speaker 1: The women stuffed inside the trash cans were seventy year
Speaker 1: old Bethany McLaren and her thirty five year old daughter, Ruth.
Speaker 1: Bethany and Reginald moved to America in the eighties and
Speaker 1: really kept to themselves. Back at the hospital, some of
Speaker 1: these details were beginning to come up in conversation with
Speaker 1: the officer assigned a watch over Reginald's room. Apparently, Reginald
Speaker 1: was born in India and his wife, Bethany was from Nepal.
Speaker 1: Reginald had a strange son from another marriage, and then
Speaker 1: there was his daughter, Ruth.
Speaker 4: I said, back, is her heart feeling okay now?
Speaker 2: A little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 10: And then you just ensured, yeah, well, we'll give you
Speaker 10: you want a blanket for now? Is that okay? Yeah,
Speaker 10: I'll give you this.
Speaker 23: It's kind of a temporation until we can get you
Speaker 23: some mother clothes. Okay, but it's better than nothing. Okay.
Speaker 10: So next thing we're gonna do again your.
Speaker 23: Permission to so we get like a hand swab of
Speaker 23: the DNA in your hand to show that basically that's
Speaker 23: your DNA. So if we find other people DNA and
Speaker 23: we know that's not your DNA, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 23: So like I'm touching this right, then you touch it,
Speaker 23: then I can compare your DNA to this DNA, so
Speaker 23: we won't say, like, who's this?
Speaker 4: So we have yours to show? Is that okay to do?
Speaker 11: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just as four prior heart attacks that had
Speaker 1: detectives worried. They wanted a full medical evaluation on Reginald
Speaker 1: because he told one of the officers that after he
Speaker 1: got home after three pm and found Betha and Ruth
Speaker 1: in the trash cans, he passed out. It wasn't until
Speaker 1: around six pm that he tried to call the apartment
Speaker 1: property management's office, and then after that he called nine
Speaker 1: one one. Here are the property managers, and you guys.
Speaker 4: Are all hiding back in here. Hi, Hi, I'm.
Speaker 9: Lindsay sure, Oh I do not look great?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Okay, how do I look for?
Speaker 1: Remember this is a Saturday night. Everyone, including some of
Speaker 1: these cops, had been relaxing at home before all this happened.
Speaker 4: That's my day off. So I'm like, I know, what
Speaker 4: are you gonna do? Your short staff? Right? I'm sure
Speaker 4: you guys, you guys were playing the same boat.
Speaker 1: Here's the voicemailed Reginald left.
Speaker 10: Of a Sudden that she was left at six or
Speaker 10: two pm.
Speaker 1: Okay, now let's swing back over to the hospital.
Speaker 4: It make sure you have no injuries on you, no
Speaker 4: arms and your legs.
Speaker 23: Okay, we're gonna take a picture to make sure that
Speaker 23: you have no injuries. You're gonna show that you had
Speaker 23: no injuries. Okay, can you put your arms up for me.
Speaker 23: I'll make sure that you're okay. Injuries if you weren't
Speaker 23: hurt at all.
Speaker 10: You weren't hurt at all. No, I wasn't hurt. Okay,
Speaker 10: make sure I.
Speaker 4: Heard that you you passed out, but you didn't hit
Speaker 4: your head or nothing like that.
Speaker 23: Okay, we'll take some pictures lit quick, just to make sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, imagine waking up on the floor three hours after
Speaker 1: finding your wife and daughter murdered. You've just come back
Speaker 1: to reality. You remember what happened. You're panicked and confused.
Speaker 1: Now listen to how Reginald mc claren sounds what he
Speaker 1: calls nine one one nine.
Speaker 6: Where's your emergency?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, ma'am, this is Greg McLaren. I'm going from
Speaker 2: art Walk, the apartment, the apartment and eight. I came
Speaker 2: around three o'clock and I phoned my wife and my daughter.
Speaker 24: I er my part.
Speaker 25: How do you know.
Speaker 3: My wife.
Speaker 10: Murder?
Speaker 26: So I'm going to call it the English right now,
Speaker 26: all of a sudden that she was left at six
Speaker 26: two hymns.
Speaker 1: Now that you've heard both the voicemail he left for
Speaker 1: the property manager and this nine one one call, don't
Speaker 1: they sound you really similar? Almost rehearsed. Here's the rest
Speaker 1: of the call?
Speaker 6: Okay, and how were they injured? Can you tell whence?
Speaker 2: Ma'am? I am very disturbed. I have no idea the.
Speaker 27: Hour is.
Speaker 2: Building. Okay, thank you? Do you know who this weapon?
Speaker 28: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, before I before I before I go further, I
Speaker 2: want to tell you that our security door in the
Speaker 2: gradualor is always open. I mean it's never.
Speaker 6: Lost answer my questions. Okay, I understand this is very
Speaker 6: hard and I'm getting lots of help. But how were
Speaker 6: they hurt? Were they shot? Where they stabbed?
Speaker 2: Can you tell me how they they were saved? Not
Speaker 2: to save this? Somebody use a hammer or I don't
Speaker 2: know you know?
Speaker 6: Where are you? Where are you?
Speaker 2: I am in my apart from them.
Speaker 6: I need you to step out. I don't want you
Speaker 6: to be in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh step out? Okay, okay, have you matched anything? Well?
Speaker 2: I went into the rooms. Uh, I just looked like
Speaker 2: my wife first, my daughter's person. The ideas were gone.
Speaker 2: All the things are upset.
Speaker 4: Down, you know.
Speaker 2: So okay, so go to the office, to security buildings
Speaker 2: and they come in here still, Yes.
Speaker 6: We have lots of people come in or even have
Speaker 6: an ambulance coming. Okay, who did thank you?
Speaker 2: Who did it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, we had a long enemity with our nephew Regin
Speaker 2: Ragina and the another one is Milan Kawas. They are
Speaker 2: both my wife's nephews.
Speaker 6: Is he there?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, he's he ran away from our home
Speaker 2: and he just goes all over the places. He's in
Speaker 2: gangs and here and there, And I just want to
Speaker 2: make sure.
Speaker 6: So your wife and daughter are currently inside the apartment
Speaker 6: in which room?
Speaker 2: Oh, muster bedroom. They're in the bedroom, muster bedroom.
Speaker 6: Okay, do you have any weapons me?
Speaker 27: No?
Speaker 8: Okay.
Speaker 6: The wife and daughter are both in the master bedroom.
Speaker 2: No, they are not in the messy bedroom. They were speaking.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to explain, but they are in
Speaker 2: the living room right now.
Speaker 6: Okay, in the living room.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you?
Speaker 1: Am I the only one disturbed by the way she
Speaker 1: says okay, thank you, Like it's just a routine checklist
Speaker 1: she's going through, like she's asking for the ingredients to
Speaker 1: make a batch of cookies. Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 6: And are you in the hallway?
Speaker 2: No, I'm going in the hallway because I want to
Speaker 2: put on my jacket. It's very cold there.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: My officers are there, though, and they need you to
Speaker 6: not be in the apartment. Okay, okay, So let me
Speaker 6: know when you stepped out into the hallway, because my
Speaker 6: officers are going to meet you in the hallway.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, okay.
Speaker 6: And when did how long ago did you find them?
Speaker 6: What time did you come home and find them?
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 6: And you're in Nancy.
Speaker 1: You go, yeah, did you catch any inconsistencies? I think
Speaker 1: Owood police were starting to rethink the idea that the
Speaker 1: suspects were on the loose somewhere. Now, let's rewind just
Speaker 1: a little bit. Remember this neighbor. She had mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: that she had seen Reginald that day, around the same
Speaker 1: time that he said he had discovered his wife and
Speaker 1: daughter's bodies.
Speaker 15: I went to the liquor store around like three or four,
Speaker 15: and he was leaving. He locked his apartment and was
Speaker 15: locking in his car, and then I got in my
Speaker 15: car and then I saw him come back.
Speaker 10: She tested me at three.
Speaker 4: That's where she left.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I was like, you want to come over? Yeah,
Speaker 9: And I was at the liquor store when you texted
Speaker 9: me back, and.
Speaker 4: As you were leaving.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, he went to his car, Okay, I know.
Speaker 11: I saw.
Speaker 12: I was like hi.
Speaker 9: He didn't say anything.
Speaker 4: He just kind of an He said hi, and then
Speaker 4: kept walking.
Speaker 9: Normally he'll like stop and chat with me.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So he locked his door and then he.
Speaker 10: Came.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and then he went to the parking lot and
Speaker 15: while I while I was going in the parking lot,
Speaker 15: he walked and asked me and didn't say anything, and
Speaker 15: then he came back, which I thought was kind of
Speaker 15: weird because then I was like, oh, he's probably leaving.
Speaker 9: That's why I saw you guys out there.
Speaker 12: I was like, I need to go talk to you.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So right after this officer leaves the woman's apartment,
Speaker 1: he tells his colleagues they'll be changing course.
Speaker 28: Thank you.
Speaker 10: You need to find it, are you good? You need
Speaker 10: to find a car. We need to find a car.
Speaker 19: Why Around three fifty five today she was going on
Speaker 19: the store. She saw him walk to the car. He
Speaker 19: locked the door, locked the car. Doesn't know what she
Speaker 19: did in the car, but he came back the car.
Speaker 19: It's a white sand possibly on the same floor that
Speaker 19: we're at. They have a gomacfart.
Speaker 1: So someone goes over to the adjoining parking garage to
Speaker 1: find Reginald's SUV, and when they do, everything kind of
Speaker 1: starts to make sense.
Speaker 16: The three fifty five the place was seen and then
Speaker 16: she doesn't know when he came back. I didn't see
Speaker 16: if there.
Speaker 4: Are any warmths of them Ornava I didn't either.
Speaker 29: So four, I don't think this was done in two
Speaker 29: outports on the sofa some of it, but there's a
Speaker 29: lot more missing.
Speaker 4: Did you see the stuff this one and then you
Speaker 4: see down in the front of the track can.
Speaker 26: So not yet, but we just were informed by Bryce
Speaker 26: that it sounds like he dad Dad left at three
Speaker 26: fifty five. Neighbor saw him driving at his car, and
Speaker 26: so Bryce is going to locate the car right now
Speaker 26: with the neighbor that saw it. That was around four,
Speaker 26: and he's saying, if I'm hearing what Bryce said correctly,
Speaker 26: he locked this door left of the car.
Speaker 4: And came back.
Speaker 10: That might be our Essentially, we're gonna see if Bryce
Speaker 10: has it the car. You guys, get here, stay here
Speaker 10: with the crime SYMGA.
Speaker 1: Detective Alouise walked to the parking garage and spots his
Speaker 1: colleague who's peering in through the windows of the s
Speaker 1: u V. Just tell it it's flat.
Speaker 4: Stay with this card and we touch it. Hey, who's
Speaker 4: a The suv is completely flat, so I'm probably sitting
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 1: The apartment complex has its own trash system, one that
Speaker 1: doesn't require any kind of rolling cans you'd leave on
Speaker 1: the side of the road. Could Reginald have flattened the
Speaker 1: back seats to make room for the new trash cans
Speaker 1: that were now in his apartment. With this possibility in mind,
Speaker 1: they have to find a neighbor with a doorbell camera.
Speaker 1: They need to get footage of whoever brought those trash
Speaker 1: cans into the apartment.
Speaker 4: Can I come in for a second?
Speaker 27: Ye go?
Speaker 4: Are you guys right?
Speaker 12: I'm brant with the police apartment obviously, I mean angle
Speaker 12: you see you guys might have some video or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have on the video doorbeller there. I'm not
Speaker 4: entirely sure what times.
Speaker 10: I think he said, like around three thirty.
Speaker 4: Was like one of them, okay, but it just catches clips.
Speaker 4: I think this was like one that they were like
Speaker 4: looking at.
Speaker 26: So you know what I'm looking for is someone dragging
Speaker 26: a trash can, A couple of trash cans they like
Speaker 26: the only.
Speaker 10: Ones, yeah, haven't like we hear that sometimes like at
Speaker 10: n I D.
Speaker 4: Guys get roll trash cans or you put your trash
Speaker 4: outside and they collect it.
Speaker 26: They collect it, but they have like a big like
Speaker 26: like one of those ones you see, like yeah, that
Speaker 26: they push and then come by and collect them.
Speaker 1: In this nine one one call, Reginald weirdly mentions that
Speaker 1: whoever did this must have started the cleanup process and
Speaker 1: couldn't finish it. Was he talking about himself? I mean,
Speaker 1: who breaks into a place, kills people and then tries
Speaker 1: to remove the bodies? Why would you do that unless
Speaker 1: you live there. The car discovery, paired with Reginald's claim
Speaker 1: that his wife and daughter's purses were empty, brought to
Speaker 1: a search of the big dumpsters on the ground floor
Speaker 1: of the apartment complex. Side they found an Exfinity bill
Speaker 1: addressed to Reggie McLaren, a credit Union bank statement for
Speaker 1: the couple, numerous SidD cards for Ruth, three of Bethanese
Speaker 1: driver's licenses, and both women's Social Security cards. All of
Speaker 1: these items had been cut up. They found bloody clothes too.
Speaker 1: This all wasn't looking very good. The next logical step
Speaker 1: was to find out which hardware store the rolling trash
Speaker 1: cans were from. Maybe they'd even be able to get
Speaker 1: security camera footage of Reginald buying the items. So the
Speaker 1: deputy went to nearly every store in the area. Finally
Speaker 1: he arrived at a particular home depot.
Speaker 10: Yeah, wed By, thank you.
Speaker 16: What can you do?
Speaker 2: Well done?
Speaker 24: What I could do is I could go back a
Speaker 24: footage of when he's he entered the store without items.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can follow him from his car to
Speaker 4: where his car is.
Speaker 10: Most who they didn't go past this because.
Speaker 9: Forget what you're talking.
Speaker 13: Is that him?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's him taking longs like his.
Speaker 30: Items while he's in the like in the twelve sections
Speaker 30: trash cans, trash cans, there is yes, so he's already
Speaker 30: picked the trash cans.
Speaker 9: It's crazy.
Speaker 21: I never thought like I would have come up to
Speaker 21: that because like I would always start because you see
Speaker 21: these people with these items, like you wonder what they
Speaker 21: use it with the last time when I was cashooting,
Speaker 21: I saw a guy in the tar shovel and like
Speaker 21: blulkins and gloves and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 21: looks so sketchy and stuff.
Speaker 18: No.
Speaker 1: No, her enthusiasm is cute, isn't it. Bet you never
Speaker 1: thought she'd be in a real life episode of CSI. Anyway,
Speaker 1: This footage showed him not only purchasing the two trash cans,
Speaker 1: but also a Stanley brand handsaw good brand. He paid
Speaker 1: for all the items with cash. And remember that neighbor
Speaker 1: with the doorbell camera. He found footage from March ninth
Speaker 1: that showed Reginald wheeling his two brand new trash cans
Speaker 1: back to his apartment. Weird. Then there was that long
Speaker 1: handled axe. Footage showed Reginald and harbor Frate's checkout line
Speaker 1: with his axe in hand. Again he used cash. This
Speaker 1: was all on March ninth, just before four pm, shortly
Speaker 1: after he got home that day. Door bell footage showed
Speaker 1: the three of them, Reginald, Bethany, and their daughter Ruth,
Speaker 1: all leaving the apartment. Then they get back around seven
Speaker 1: to fifteen pm, having just gone on an outing with
Speaker 1: the man who would soon end their lives. While investigators
Speaker 1: rewound camera feeds and match timestamps, a sense of disbelief
Speaker 1: washed over everyone. How could eighty one year old Reginald,
Speaker 1: elderly and frail have done any of this?
Speaker 13: Named doctor? Okay, little bit, can you tell them what
Speaker 13: happened today? Ooh, I didn't sneaking.
Speaker 1: So the doctor asked him what happened, and Reginald said, oh,
Speaker 1: I made a mistake. And that's why the AUDI isn't perfect.
Speaker 1: It's from the body worn camera of the officer. Sitting
Speaker 1: in Reginald's hospital room. Reginald calls the doctor, Doc, that
Speaker 1: might help you follow it a little bit better.
Speaker 10: They were thinking and anything to get thistle. The doctor
Speaker 10: was saying something that you see I heard that you
Speaker 10: want one that you okay, well you know.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be No.
Speaker 10: I a lit here for forty years and and I
Speaker 10: give up basically and you.
Speaker 25: Because the animals of money and this same theme.
Speaker 10: No way.
Speaker 25: And if I'm messing me to dig an apartment, go there.
Speaker 10: And I had it, and then I had some money here.
Speaker 10: See I have a tolend dollar in my.
Speaker 2: Week.
Speaker 25: Is a move, but that was only for one month
Speaker 25: and from signing hest for fifteen. Anyone who predicts will
Speaker 25: be short after. I didn't want to see my family
Speaker 25: in the street Eddy. I don't want to see hope happens.
Speaker 25: But I just didn't because I see equal on the
Speaker 25: roles and.
Speaker 10: Mom guys and say the situation better and I so
Speaker 10: you killed them? And then and Leans passed out. Correct.
Speaker 1: Then the doctor asks him, so you killed them, both
Speaker 1: of them? And Reginald admitted that he had and great board.
Speaker 2: He was in.
Speaker 10: He didn't kid. I even love to see my student
Speaker 10: bending brand thee how my daughter even.
Speaker 1: After this shockingly calm admission, so creepy, really Reginald continued
Speaker 1: telling the doctor that he used to work for HSS
Speaker 1: Security Company in a hospital setting. During his time there,
Speaker 1: he saw the harsh reality of homelessness every day. He
Speaker 1: said that after he lost his job, he knew that
Speaker 1: he and his family would end up like these people
Speaker 1: begging on the side of the road. At his age,
Speaker 1: no one would hire him. To make matters worse, he
Speaker 1: said that they were being evicted. Bethany and Ruth were
Speaker 1: pressuring him to sign a lease on a new apartment,
Speaker 1: and Reginald said he was down to his last eight
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, which wouldn't be enough for first and last
Speaker 1: month's rent, plus us a security deposit in his daughter's medication.
Speaker 1: Thirty five year old Ruth lived with cerebral palsy and
Speaker 1: required constant monitoring. Her meds were eight hundred dollars a month,
Speaker 1: according to Reginald, who really emphasized that he'd been taking
Speaker 1: care of his wife and daughter for thirty five years.
Speaker 1: His family depended on him, relied on him. They couldn't
Speaker 1: survive without him. Apparently it had just become too much.
Speaker 1: He said he'd started planning about ten days prior. He
Speaker 1: just couldn't see any other way out. On March twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, from a hospital bed under police watch,
Speaker 1: eighty one year old Reginald McLaren calmly admitted he had
Speaker 1: murdered his wife and daughter. He said he'd spent decades
Speaker 1: supporting them, but when he lost his job and found
Speaker 1: out they were being evicted, he saw only one path
Speaker 1: forward everything.
Speaker 25: I'm sorry, I can dominate in life everything, you know,
Speaker 25: never time when he had her time and making bed
Speaker 25: sickness problems.
Speaker 10: But I think not see my said my heny.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: According to Reginald, the plan had been in motion for
Speaker 1: a week. Here's what investigators believe happened that final day.
Speaker 1: Sometime in the early afternoon, he grabbed an axe, the
Speaker 1: one he bought at Harbor Freight. He set aside the
Speaker 1: hand saw that was for later. He purchased everything he
Speaker 1: needed using cash, Like the two rolling trash cans. He
Speaker 1: wheeled them through the parking lot by himself. They were
Speaker 1: now waiting in his living room, lids propped open. Bethany,
Speaker 1: his wife of nearly forty years, was likely sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch. He struck her first, hard enough to slice
Speaker 1: through a major artery causing a blood spray that painted
Speaker 1: the wall behind her. Then he turned on Ruth, hacking
Speaker 1: away at her. She was thirty five years old, and
Speaker 1: Reginald said she had cerebral palsy. Detectives believe she may
Speaker 1: have been standing near the kitchen at the time. Later
Speaker 1: they found the sink drain clogged with blood and hair,
Speaker 1: clear evidence of an effort to clean up what was
Speaker 1: becoming an unmanageably messy situation. After they were both dad,
Speaker 1: Reginald used a combination of the axe and the saw
Speaker 1: to remove one of his wife's legs. It was harder
Speaker 1: than he imagined it would be, so he abandoned that idea. Instead,
Speaker 1: he forcibly bent Bethany and Ruth's limbs at awkward angles
Speaker 1: so they'd fit. He draped a towel over his wife,
Speaker 1: but it didn't cover much. He looked down out of
Speaker 1: breath and knew he still had to get both of
Speaker 1: these bins to stand up so he could roll them
Speaker 1: down the hall and into his suv. One of Bethany's
Speaker 1: legs was still sticking out, lying on top of the
Speaker 1: open lid. Blood was starting to pool around each of
Speaker 1: the bins. Reginald panicked. His chest felt tight. He knew
Speaker 1: this feeling. Quickly, he cut up both of the women's
Speaker 1: identification cards, driver's licenses, and social security cards. He tossed
Speaker 1: the pieces down the track into the apartment's main dumpster,
Speaker 1: along with bloody clothes and other personal effects. Then he
Speaker 1: picked up his phone and called the property manager, followed
Speaker 1: by nine to one one. In his nine one one call,
Speaker 1: Reginald said to the dispatcher, whoever did this probably started
Speaker 1: the cleanup, but got tired and gave up, And that's
Speaker 1: exactly what he did. During the process of hauling bodies,
Speaker 1: cleaning blood, and lugging heavy plastic bins into position, Reginald
Speaker 1: over exerted himself. He began to feel the familiar warnings
Speaker 1: of a heart attack. He'd already suffered four and had
Speaker 1: recently undergone open heart surgery. He just got scared, scared
Speaker 1: that he was about to die. Getting medical attention for
Speaker 1: himself became the number one priority. I wonder how he
Speaker 1: was going to pay for that.
Speaker 20: A horrifying crime in Anglewood in the suspect talked about
Speaker 20: Colorado's housing crisis with investigators. The eighty one year old
Speaker 20: man told them he killed and dismembered his wife and
Speaker 20: daughter because he could no longer afford to pay the rent.
Speaker 20: They were murdered in an apartment building in the Englewood
Speaker 20: City Center just off Hampton Avenue in Santa Fe. Drive
Speaker 20: Karen Morphin on the story Tonight and Karen. The man
Speaker 20: told police he didn't want his family to suffer through homelessness,
Speaker 20: and during his.
Speaker 24: Arrest, he reportedly told police that he had no regrets
Speaker 24: because he felt like they were in a better place now.
Speaker 24: Police responding today pleading for anyone who may be struggling
Speaker 24: to ask for help. According to the arrest AFFI, David
Speaker 24: McClaren confessed to the murders, telling detectives he had recently
Speaker 24: lost his job and the family was about to be evicted.
Speaker 24: Having worked with the homeless population before, he told police
Speaker 24: he quote knew what a miserable life that was. Having
Speaker 24: planned for several days, he allegedly carried out those murders
Speaker 24: the morning they were to vacate.
Speaker 8: You know, he seemed distraught maybe, and I don't know
Speaker 8: what the reasons for his actions were or I mean,
Speaker 8: that's part of our investigation. We're trying to determine why
Speaker 8: he did what he did, but as far as our
Speaker 8: dealings with him, he was more than cooperative.
Speaker 24: Now McLaren is expected in court sometime later this week.
Speaker 24: We know the Rapahoe County Corner's Office will identify those
Speaker 24: victims once their family is notified.
Speaker 1: Notifying extended family about Bethany and Ruth's deaths was more
Speaker 1: difficult than expected. Who were these women? The family had
Speaker 1: lived in the same building for years, and yet no
Speaker 1: one seemed to know them beyond their friendly smiles and
Speaker 1: the smell of food wafting from their unit.
Speaker 7: Well, Jim and the sadness over this terrible, terrible crime
Speaker 7: is the realization that this family lived quietly in an
Speaker 7: Englewood apartment building. The mother and victim in this case,
Speaker 7: Bethany McLaren, was apparently from overseas, but without the help
Speaker 7: of her husband, the suspect, finding her family has been difficult,
Speaker 7: and so the coroner's office has reached out for help.
Speaker 1: There was no one to claim Bethany and Ruth's bodies,
Speaker 1: no one to plan their funerals or give them a
Speaker 1: peaceful sign off. When leaders at the Colorado Nepal Alliance
Speaker 1: found out about this situation, they couldn't let it end
Speaker 1: like this. There had to be someone who knew and
Speaker 1: loved these women.
Speaker 7: They knew Bethany McLaren first got a social Security number
Speaker 7: after arriving in the US somewhere in the eighties and
Speaker 7: a little bit more, but no one knew her relatives.
Speaker 7: The coroner's office called you.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they called me the Tuesday after the murders.
Speaker 7: Anne Hines and Sengita Schrotria are both part of the
Speaker 7: Colorado Nepal Alliance, and the coroner had found the mom.
Speaker 7: Bethany had another name.
Speaker 11: The fact that her name was Pavitra was a good
Speaker 11: clue that she might if she wasn't Napoli. That the
Speaker 11: ring of Napoli descent was likely.
Speaker 7: And so they set to work to find family to
Speaker 7: remember them and their past.
Speaker 1: They brought a photo of Bethany to a local funeral.
Speaker 1: Someone in the Engle Wooden, Nepaull community had passed away,
Speaker 1: and six hundred people were in attendance, all people who
Speaker 1: might know these women.
Speaker 7: Somebody has to mourn these women.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: With a photo from Bethany McLaren's license, Sangita began to
Speaker 7: ask everyone she could in the ten thousand plus member
Speaker 7: Nepoli community.
Speaker 31: So I took the picture to the funeral and say
Speaker 31: that do you guys know her? And they were around
Speaker 31: like six hundred people and nobody could tell that they
Speaker 31: knew her.
Speaker 1: Eventually, a man in Kansas responded saying he remembered a
Speaker 1: woman named Pavitra. She'd helped him find a job back
Speaker 1: in Colorado years prior. When he saw her name and photo,
Speaker 1: he was pretty sure this was the same woman. So
Speaker 1: she was a kind woman, she was yeah.
Speaker 7: Then after a report of the name got out, a
Speaker 7: woman reached out from India. One who was a little
Speaker 7: girl once posed for a photo with Ruth McLaren.
Speaker 31: Then she opened up and it happened to be Pavitra's niece.
Speaker 1: The woman confirmed that she recognized both Bethany and Ruth. Apparently,
Speaker 1: Bethany was originally Pavitra Rana, born in northern India but
Speaker 1: of Nepali origin. She worked as a nurse and eventually
Speaker 1: moved to the United States, where she married Reginald after
Speaker 1: meeting him through a newspaper ad.
Speaker 31: Of all things, it looks like they had been in
Speaker 31: India for a few generations because both of Pavitrans her sister,
Speaker 31: were born in India. There are so many uncovered part
Speaker 31: of the stories that we don't know yet or about
Speaker 31: their life. I'm sure they have touched more life than
Speaker 31: we know.
Speaker 11: I'm sure they have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had succeeded in finding a needle in a haystack,
Speaker 1: one single member of Bethany's family, but they were too
Speaker 1: far away to help with the funeral. So these two
Speaker 1: women from the Colorado to Paul alliance took it upon themselves.
Speaker 11: You didn't have to do this, Yeah, I did have
Speaker 11: to do it because these women were so brutally murdered.
Speaker 28: Yeah, and so few people in the Denver metro area
Speaker 28: knew them, and I could not imagine.
Speaker 11: That there were people there that were grieving for them.
Speaker 1: There was no family statement, no recent photo, no custom obituary.
Speaker 1: Instead just a Bible verse. The Lord is my shepherd.
Speaker 1: I shall not want. He maketh me lie down in
Speaker 1: green pastures. He leadeth me beside the still waters. He
Speaker 1: restoreth my soul. He leadeth me in the paths of
Speaker 1: righteousness for his namesake. YEA, though I walk through the
Speaker 1: valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil,
Speaker 1: for thou art with me, Thy rod and thy staff
Speaker 1: they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me, in
Speaker 1: the presence of mine enemies. Thou anointest my head with oil.
Speaker 1: My cup runneth over. Surely, goodness and mercy shall follow
Speaker 1: me all the days of my life, and I will
Speaker 1: dwell in the house of the Lord forever. No mention
Speaker 1: of her daughter. Her work is a nurse nothing. Bethany
Speaker 1: and Ruth mac laren lived quietly, but they died violently,
Speaker 1: and if not for the kindness of strangers, they would
Speaker 1: have been buried without any one to grieve them. Everything
Speaker 1: we know about them comes from the fragments they left behind,
Speaker 1: whether it be a neighbor's memory, a community sorrow, or
Speaker 1: a killer's version of events. And Reginald's side of the
Speaker 1: story was built entirely on his lies. Because here's the
Speaker 1: horrible truth, the McLaren family wasn't facing homelessness. Detectives recovered
Speaker 1: several documents addressed to Reginald in Bethany one of those
Speaker 1: documents was a statement from a credit union. It showed
Speaker 1: an account balance of over eleven thousand dollars. Keep in mind,
Speaker 1: this was just one of their accounts. In his hospital
Speaker 1: bed confession, Reginald had also mentioned a briefcase with eight
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in it. If that doesn't convince you that
Speaker 1: his entire excuse was a lie, maybe this will. There
Speaker 1: was no evidence that Reginald and his family were about
Speaker 1: to be evicted whatsoever. There was no eviction notice, no
Speaker 1: court order, and it was it's just that their lease
Speaker 1: was up, so that's it. It was all a lie.
Speaker 1: This wasn't a man pushed into a corner. Reginald had
Speaker 1: made a decision. He was done being the pillar of
Speaker 1: his family. He was done having a family altogether. It
Speaker 1: was on April third, twenty twenty three, that Reginald was
Speaker 1: formally charged with two counts of first degree murder, two
Speaker 1: counts of tampering with a deceased human body, and one
Speaker 1: count of false reporting. On January twenty third, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: he entered a not guilty plea. His trial began in
Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty four. It was a somber, quiet courtroom.
Speaker 1: No one sat in the gallery behind the defense table,
Speaker 1: and no one sat behind the prosecutors. Well, at least,
Speaker 1: there was no one in attendance that really knew the
Speaker 1: McLaren family and Hindes, the executive director of the Colorado
Speaker 1: Nepal Alliance, attended the entire trial, just like she'd help
Speaker 1: plan Bethany and Ruth's burial. She wanted to be there
Speaker 1: when justice was finally served and sounds like a nice person.
Speaker 1: We need more ants.
Speaker 28: This is Bethany when she was a nurse in the
Speaker 28: Indian Army. This is Ruth right here when she was young.
Speaker 28: The only pictures that the jury got to see of
Speaker 28: them were the pictures when they were dead. The hardest
Speaker 28: part for me was hearing how many times he had
Speaker 28: struck his daughter with an axe.
Speaker 1: The evidence shown at trial was convincing. After about a
Speaker 1: week in court, just a few hours of deliberation, a
Speaker 1: jury found him guilty on all charges.
Speaker 28: The prosecution had a very good case, and they just
Speaker 28: reiterated all the pre planning that had gone into these murders.
Speaker 28: He had purchased the acts, the saw, and the trash cans.
Speaker 28: I think I was hoping to try to understand why
Speaker 28: these two murders had occurred that I left without any answers.
Speaker 28: I thought maybe having him convicted might make me feel better,
Speaker 28: but I don't. Ruth and Bethany are still deceased.
Speaker 1: And who had been in contact with Bethany's family in India,
Speaker 1: told them about the guilty verdict. One of Bethany's friends
Speaker 1: ended up writing a letter for the sentencing hearing. She
Speaker 1: asked Aan to read it on her behalf.
Speaker 27: I have known Pavichrurana, also known as Bethany, for the
Speaker 27: last half a century. We both belonged to Kullimpong, a
Speaker 27: small hill town in eastern India. She was born, brought
Speaker 27: up and did her schooling in one of the famous
Speaker 27: missionary schools, the Kalimpong Girls High School. We worshiped in
Speaker 27: the same Presbyterian church. After her schooling, she did her
Speaker 27: diploma in nursing. In the late nineteen seventies, she joined
Speaker 27: the Indian Army as a nursing officer in the rank
Speaker 27: of lieutenant. She continued working and was promoted to the
Speaker 27: rank of captain. Around nineteen eighty six, she married Reginald MacLaren.
Speaker 27: After marriage, she resigned from the army and moved with
Speaker 27: her husband to Denver, Colorado and the US. In nineteen
Speaker 27: ninety six, she came to visit US in India with
Speaker 27: her husband and daughter. Thereafter, we were in occasional contact
Speaker 27: over the phone. Last I remember speaking with her was
Speaker 27: in twenty fifteen. After that I was unable to contact
Speaker 27: her despite trying many times. The tragic news came as
Speaker 27: a great shock, not only to me but to all
Speaker 27: of those who knew her here in India. I would
Speaker 27: like to remember her as a fine and humble human being,
Speaker 27: a dependable friend and a very helpful person. She liked
Speaker 27: to do embroidery in tatting laces in her free time.
Speaker 27: She was warm and friendly, but reserved Socially, she was
Speaker 27: observant and we shared many laughs at her impressions of
Speaker 27: friends and colleagues. May their souls rest in peace.
Speaker 1: Reginald, who is now eighty three years old, received two
Speaker 1: consecutive life sentences. On top of that, the judge tacked
Speaker 1: on two twelve year sentences for tapering with deceased bodies
Speaker 1: and one hundred and twenty day cents for false reporting,
Speaker 1: with credit for time served. In the end, no one
Speaker 1: remembered when they moved in. No one noticed the quiet
Speaker 1: lives of these women, and when they finally did, it
Speaker 1: was because the only person who ever saw them was
Speaker 1: the one who made them vanish. Well, we hope you
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