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Speaker 1: Welcome to Political Beatdown. I'm been mycellas joined by Michael Cohen.

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You want to talk about an end of the year beatdown?

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How about this end of the year beatdown that Donald

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Trump is receiving from the American people, especially among independents.

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The New Economist you gov Paul Trump's net approval among

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independents of Trump's handling at the start of this stage

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of his presidency. In his second term, it started at

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negative four and now he's at negative thirty six versus

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first term plus a negative seven. Just think about that

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right now. Among the for those who are listening on audio,

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you have to look at this chart because it looks

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like a Trump mean coin of his net approval among independents.

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And I think, you know, one of the.

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Speaker 2: Things KG right before you go into a full cardiac.

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Speaker 1: Arrept exactly exactly. And look, I just think one of

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the trends that I'm seeing is that, you know, just

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people who aren't even political observers, but people who are

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looking at the end of the year and just reflecting

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on what the hell has happened are looking at this

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and saying, you know, this is dangerous what Trump's doing.

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It's also really weird and this whole eco system built

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around trying to hoist Donald Trump as this authoritarian feurer figure.

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People are like, what is this? I mean like, like,

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I know, people don't like when I report on what's

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going on on state regime media Fox, But it gives

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you a window into just where this cult is going,

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because we need to know how we got here and

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how we got out.

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Speaker 2: So Cohen Riful also an old fantas band, how we

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never get back to this place? I mean, you know

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they always say that, you know, history is extremely important

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to learn, even though in America nobody really understands or

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nobody really Udy's history as much as we should. You

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go to other countries, they know the history starting at

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the very beginning, and they have a history hundreds of

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years longer than ours. History is so important because it

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teaches us, all right, what you don't want to happen

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ever again. And if we don't actually do that, we

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could get stuck in another situation with another individual who

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is ego driven as opposed to constitution driven.

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Speaker 1: Look to me, if you were to go back into

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America's founding right and you were to say, among the

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various things, what defined America's founding, right, what was it right?

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You know? And you could say the Declaration of Independence,

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and you could say the Revolutionary War, you could say

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all these things. But to me, the common theme, frankly,

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is no kings, no authoritarians. Right. The US implemented the

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enlightened teaching that was going on in Europe at that

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time as a reaction to kings and authoritarians and leading

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the way with a very imperfect democracy. I'm not going

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to be here and be like America crushed it like

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what was always amazing? No, no, no, I mean there

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were bad times in our history and there were terrible

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things that were done, but the arc of this idea

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of democracy and moving away from authoritarianism that was a

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significant thing. And then spreading, spreading democracy across a world

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that was defined by authoritarianism. And now what we're seeing

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it's an international authoritarian movement of the Putins and the

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or Bonds and the Trumps and the people like that.

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And it's a you have to view this in a

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historical context as that this is a wave, a generational wave,

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saying decra he had its moment, and now the authoritarians

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want to get back into power. As they always did,

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and they view the proliferation of unregulated AI data centers,

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the proliferation of information paradoxically causing bad information, as a

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tool to create a lord versus subject dynamic.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ben, One of the crazy things that most

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people aren't aware of, and I'm shocked with the number

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of people who are not, is the fact that George

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Washington is not famous in US history because you know,

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he crossed the Delaware or as the first president of

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the United States. He's really most famous for the fact

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that they wanted him to be president for the entire

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term of his life, and he said no, that we

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just fought a war, not to have a king. And

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it's so important that people understand what would you have

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given that up? You know, I remember when I first

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learned about the story, and I remember thinking to myself,

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I'm not sure if somebody offered me to be, in essence,

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the king of a country that I would walk away

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from it. Think about the type of man that George

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Washington was in order to turn on to say, huh huh,

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we just fought a war against against England for our freedom,

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and I have no interest in copying what so many

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have died for. It is a truly, truly incredible attribute

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that George Washington possessed, which is why he is so revered,

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which is why he is on you know, currency like

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a quarter or the dollar bill and so on. It

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is to honor that sort of moral high ground that

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we do not see coming out of Washington today.

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Speaker 1: Right and then you see state regime media Fox. They're

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out there and they refer to Donald Trump as Daddy.

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And it's a very strange thing. And it's not just

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every now and then. They consistently refer to Donald Trump

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as Daddy. Daddy, Daddy, Daddy said this, Daddy said that,

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like it's deeply disturbing. There are people who are getting

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their news from this network who are hearing hosts say,

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let me put this in ways that you can understand.

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Daddy's cutting you off right now. And just before we started,

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there's this new guest contributor who shows up a lot.

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Sunshine is her name, and she seems to be auditioning

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for Caroline Levitt's job or a job like that in

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the White House. And here's what she says about Daddy,

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and she calls him daddy. Here play this clip.

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Speaker 3: Let me try to put this in terms that Gavin

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Newsom will understand. Donald Trump is daddy, and Daddy cut

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you off, and Daddy said you can't use his credit

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card anymore. Because why should California and Gavin Newsom be

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getting federal funds when they don't even follow federal law.

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Nobody is obstructing federal immigration law more than the state

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of California and Gavin Newsom. You don't get a penny

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if you're not going to enforce federal law.

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Speaker 2: Okay, time out. First of all, here's the biggest problem.

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Ben join me on this or second, police, because we

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have talked about on this political beatdown show during the

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course of twenty twenty five. We have talked about the

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various states that are fund givers and then we have

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those that are fund recipients. New York, California, I believe what, Virginia, Illinois, right, exactly, Massachusetts.

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They are states they happen to be blue, that pay

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more to the federal government.

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Speaker 4: Than they receive.

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Speaker 2: So when people like Caroline Sunshine and I know nothing

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about her, I don't even know where she came from.

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I don't know what her history is, what her background is.

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But you're not wrong when you say that she's obviously

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trying out for Caroline Levitt's role. When you start turning

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around and making statements like that that we are not

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that Texas or i should say California or New York

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are not following federal law in this case, specifically California

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under Gavin Newsom, I'd be very very curious as to

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one what she's even talking about, what federal law are

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they are they not following? And two, I'd be very

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curious whether there is a way within which California could

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withhold sending money to the federal government until its needs

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are met and those needs are again from the wildfires

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and from the various flooding that has taken place.

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Speaker 1: You know, I am you know, would shock you that

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this Caroline Sunshine lived in California.

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Speaker 4: Actually it would, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just looking at her background. So she was

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born in nineteen ninety five. She previously worked for Trump

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in twenty eighteen, so when she had been in what

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her twenties there when she worked for Trump, she was

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an actor. What she let's see what it says what

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her role was and the first Trump administration, it says

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she's she's It's just as White House staffer. I'm not

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sure what the role was. I'll go look into that.

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She was raised in Orange County, California, so grew up,

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grew up in California. Families from California. She she was

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an actress there there she is. Uh, let's see if

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we could try to find the photo. That's a horrible

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way of showing photos, especially when I have an editorial

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team I can send him. But she she was she

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had some role or she showed up at the world

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premiere of Cars Too. She wasn't she wasn't in Cars

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you know, an ultra maga. She was in a movie

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called The Outfield and now this is what this is

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what she's doing. So isn't that a common theme though,

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of maga to like like people who couldn't become actresses

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and then they go kind of maga and they act

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there like you know, like Lauren Bobert. She was on

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like one of those like model websites, and like they

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all wanted to be famous somehow and this was kind

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of their path to being famous. But in any event, California,

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if it was a country, would be the fourth largest

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GDP in the world, so a bigger economy than Canada

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or Japan most countries. Right, it gives eighty five billion

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dollars to the federal government more than it takes, right,

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whereas Texas takes eighty five billion dollars more than it gives.

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California literally keeps the Red states alive. California literally subsidizes

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the existence of most red states. Most red states are

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failed states. They literally couldn't exist. They don't have balanced budgets.

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They're the worst in every category, whether it's education, standard

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of living, economic conditions, you name it. They're like the

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crime like, they're usually the worst in basically every category.

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props up. And now remember when all these MAGA people

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back in the day where they were, oh, state's rights

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were states rights. And now it's like and they would

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always be like, oh, Michelle Obama, she wants to change.

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She's recommending healthier food for kids. Ruh, that's like an invasion.

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They're invading our schools. The federal don't tread on me,

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and they have their flags with the don't tread on

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the snake's Michelle Obama's invading. And then it's like, okay,

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RFK has a weirder version that he calls make America

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Healthy Again, which you hated when Michelle Obama did it

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as recommendations. Now you want that mandatory while he stops

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vaccines and stops the Vaccine Advisory Board, and now you

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want the federal government to invade, to invade Blue States

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cod At the end of the day, when any one

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of these man they come up with their frameworks right

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where they're like, oh, we're states rights, we're originalists, we're

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strict constructionists. Remember, their frameworks are just evidence of their sociopathy.

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only amendment that uses the word regulation. But then you go, oh,

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you can't use the word regulate.

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Speaker 2: Why does the first Amendment turn around and give you

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the freedom of speech until you're standing on a street

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corner yelling at ice for disappearing people and they shoot

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you in the top of the head a with a

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pepper bullet, right, or they unconstitutionally remind you to prison

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because you refuse not to write a book and not

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to talk about it on social media or television. Yeah,

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that's the problem. What's good for them is what they want,

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of their rights. It's we're really in a very dangerous,

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dangerous place. And the danger is not just on our

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national stage, you know, that's pretty screwed up, but the

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international stage takes it to a whole another level because

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when they're doing the things that they're doing, like blowing

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up these boats. And by the way, Ben, you do

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had heard from a buddy of mine who is former

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military intelligence, that he knows for a fact that we

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have boots on the ground in Venezuela. But what's interesting

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said he believes that that's right. He's heard from other

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people as well, but he has not heard from the

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administration right that we have boots on the ground in Venezuela. Well,

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that they're you know, that they're striking now, you know,

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locations inside of Venezuela. Not to mention that they just

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that they claim that it's being used to, you know,

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to load the drugs onto these eighteen twenty foot aluminum

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's almost like a bad South Park episode, right,

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that we actually just can't even we can't even put

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this one out. It's it's that ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You saw the New York Times expose this morning as

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one of those fishing boats was arrived on the shore

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of Columbia. Here's what it says, Grim evidence of Trump's

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airstrikes washes ashore on a Colombian peninsula, And it said,

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first came the scorch boat, then the mangled bodies, then

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the packets with traces of marijuana. Now fishermen fear the

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ocean that feeds them, and it talks about how this boat,

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no bigger than thirty feet long, was all like destroyed

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and scorched with two mangled bodies in them. Then there

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were these charred Jerry cans, and then in this in

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these cans, these packets were found there, but what was

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in them appeared to be traces of something that looked

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and smelled like marijuana like. And one of first off,

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there was never any doubt at all that there was

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no fentanyl on those ships, which is the pretext. The

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pretext was that there's fentanyl and these are Narco terrorists.

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And then Trump lies and says for every boat we destroy,

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we save twenty five or fifty thousand lives of Americans.

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That's right out of a Putin playbook, right, that's Putin saying, look,

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my home was attacked by Zelenski, and now Zelenski's a terrorist,

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and so we have to stop the terrorist state. It's

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the exact, almost word for word, you know, playbook. Okay,

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By the way, Trump tried to pull the same fentanyl

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and he and you know, Canada resisted and stood up

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to it. But Trump pulled the same thing with Canada.

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They're trying his justification for tariffs against Canada and initiating

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the trade war was Canada is killing Americans with ventanyl.

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They're killing tens of thousands or hundreds of us. So

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we always knew these fishing boats did not have ventanyl.

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Speaker 2: And so it makes this unusually grotesque is the fact

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that it was traces of marijuana, whether it's the smell

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or whatever particles may remain inside those canisters. The thing

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in the United States of America right now, you have

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multi national companies, cannabis companies. You can't walk down Lexington,

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you or Third Avenue or Second Avenue here in Manhattan

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without on every other street corner they have a place

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that's literally legally selling to anybody over the age of

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eighteen marijuana, cannabis, whether it's thhccbd both, whether it's invade

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Penn's who knows, whether it's gummies right, it's a and

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yet you don't see them blowing up the headquarters to

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a cannabis company. You don't see them when the CEO

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of that cannabis company is driving home to his estate

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in the Hamptons or whatnot, that a drone takes them

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out on I ninety five or four ninety five. Seriously,

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So here you have these twenty thirty footballs. I thought

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they were more like twenty footers. But if you say thirty,

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I'm willing to go with thirty evidence. This is real,

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actual evidence. You know a lot of people get angry

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at me, they say, oh, you know, you make these

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these comments and so on, and you're not really sure.

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I'm as a former lawyer right or as a lawyer

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with legal training as is, we go off of facts.

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These are not pictures of boats that are ai created

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or that you can get by going through a booklet

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to pick out which twenty or thirty foot aluminum boat

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that you want to buy. These are the actual boats

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that have washed on shore, and they contain what they contain.

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These are facts, plain and simple. These are facts. We

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live by facts. And you know what, just imagine, imagine

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instead of it being a boat, just make it into

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a car, or make it into an office building. And

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then next thing they're doing, they're going to start what

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sending drones to blow up these buildings or take out

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the vehicles of these CEOs and these top executives at

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cannabis companies. Then you're one thousand percent right. They are

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using lies within which to promote a theme that actually

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is a lie.

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Speaker 1: And they're not explaining what the endgame is here, you know,

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is they're saying what they what would they say about Venezuela,

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recar the Venezuela. Now they're saying, actually, they stole our oil,

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which Trum's saying, and they stole our land. So we

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needed back by the way, right out of Putin's playbook,

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you know. And for all our people in the corporate

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media news, you know, who were like, you know, they're

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moving closer to peace between you know, Ukraine and Russia.

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I say, are you listening to anything that Putin? Lavrav

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dmitryev Yushikov, Peskov, like, are you listening to what they're saying?

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The Russians have not once this entire year made any

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statement that they want a legitimate peace deal with Ukraine.

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The entire year. Ukraine has been very clear, we agree

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to a cease fire, will stop. We've been invaded, there's

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something to stop. We want to cease fire. We agree.

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The moment there's a ceasefire, this ends, we agree cease

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fire Russia. Russia says no. This is Russia's recent statement

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before the meeting, between Zelensky and Trump this weekend. Russia says,

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and this came through Yushikov, the main kind of Russian

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negotiator working with Wikkov, that any ceasefire is unacceptable because

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it would lead to a quote prolongation of the war,

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that the ceasefire, the cessation of the war creates the war.

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That is literally nineteen eighty four war is peace or

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pieces war. That's what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: So except truth turns around ben and says and says

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that according to Putin, he wants to see Ukraine succeed.

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I literally almost choked on my coffee when I heard

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that come out of his mouth, that he says Putin

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claims he wants to see Ukraine succeed. I don't even

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know where to go from that one.

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Speaker 1: And I think we have the clip of that, Jeremy,

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if we've got it, it's the one that let's show,

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the one where Zolensky is listening as Donald Trump says that, look,

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you know, Putin really just wants to help you, so

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like if he takes you over, he strongly wants to

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help you. You know, Trump always says strongly, I believe

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him very strong strongly wants to help you. Let's play

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this clip and let's watch Zelenski's reaction through your place.

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Speaker 3: So, in your conversation with President Putin, did you discuss

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what responsibility Russia will have for any kind of reconstruction

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of Ukraine post in agreement?

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Speaker 5: I did. They're going to be helping Russia is gonna

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be helping Russia wants to see Ukraine succeed once. It

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sounds a little strange, but I was explaining.

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Speaker 1: To the president.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: President Putin was very generous and is feeling toward Ukraine succeeding,

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including a supply energy, electricity and other things at very

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low prices. So a lot of good things came out

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of that call today, but they were in the works

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for two weeks with.

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Speaker 4: So you.

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Speaker 2: See, sure he wants them to succeed. That was bef

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That was literally right after ten hours of relentless shelling

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and bombing in Kiev with more death and more destruction.

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But sure, here's an idea. Let's blow up Ukraine's energy

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grid so that we can sell them energy cheap, cheap.

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I mean, this to me reminds me so much of

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like a crazy Eddie commercial. I was waiting for Eddie

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Avadan right to come on and say, but wait, there's

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more right, if you're at now, you're gonna get another

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fifteen percent off the energy that we're selling you because

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we blew up your energy, your electric grids and so on.

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This is the craziest shit on the planet. Oh sure,

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Russia wants to help go to rebuild Ukraine. I want

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to be clear about something because again to those of

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you who you know, maybe aren't as familiar with Eastern Europe,

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for example, as I might be right, it's Russia has

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no money. Russia's economy is in the toilet. Their big

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their big export, as you all know, is oil. But

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their cost to retrieve the oil per barrel is between

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fifty six and fifty seven dollars per barrel. If right

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now spot price is around fifty nine. How much money

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do you think that they're making off of that two dollars?

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That two dollars big And the answer is not enough,

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not nearly enough to sustain this war, not nearly enough

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for their people to receive benefits that they may need.

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Speaker 4: All right, because.

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Speaker 2: Again, remember you're not talking about a country like the

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United States of America with a twenty eight trillion dollar GDP. Right,

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you're talking about I don't even know what what Russias

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is right now.

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Speaker 4: It's like what one.

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Speaker 1: Point five two point five to two point.

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Speaker 2: Point five trillion, Right, you're talking about one tenth the

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size of the United States. I just want people to

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understand that, so they're not in a financial position to

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give one dollar to Ukraine. Where this entire bullshit came from.

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Where these where these this info, this conversation. By the way,

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one last thing, Ben, When these telephone calls take place,

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aren't they recorded and then transcribed. Isn't that phone call

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the property of the United States, the people of the

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United States, American citizens. I'd like to read that two

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and a half hour transcript. I would like to know

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exactly what they talked about, because there is no fucking

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way in the world that Vladimir Putin turned around and

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said he wants to see Ukraine succeed and that they

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intend to help in the rebuilding of Ukraine unless they

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own it completely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe, and I'm giving you my opinion that

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whether it was discussed on a recorded line or not

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on a recorded line, I believe that Putin told Trump

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what the plan was going to be in the next

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twenty four hours that Putin was going to claim that

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Zolensky attacked his home, which would then be used as

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pretext by Russia to try and attack Ukrainian government buildings

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and to try to assassinate and kill Zelensky. And that,

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I believe is what Russia's trying to do. They both

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been trying to do it. But I think that part

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of the tactics here that we're at play and we're

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taking place behind closed doors, is Trump saying to Zolensky,

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you know, you better give up your eastern territory or

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else I'm not going to be able to stop them.

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I'm not going to be able to to I can't

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tell you what's coming next, but all I can tell

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you is is that you know it would be nice

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if you're around, you know. I think that's what went

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down when Donald Trump told the media to leave. That's

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I'm giving you my hypothesis based on all of the

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surrounding circumstances. Because the very next day, on Monday, you

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wake up and what happens. Putin goes a Zolensky tried

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to attack my home. Now, let's be clear, if Zolensky

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sent a drone swarm at Putin's home. First off, there

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are if I've looked at these maps that these open

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source military sites post, there's four five touch points where

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the drones would be shot at by Russia's kind of

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drone defense. So I'm not saying that, you know, Ukrainian

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drones couldn't have evaded it, but people in the communities

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would have seen some activity, and then they would have

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seen activity around Putin's home. Like imagine if by the

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White House there was a drone swarm, right there would

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be something like okay, did you see that? You know,

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it's not like in some isolated area like did you

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see what just happened? And by the way, our own

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intelligence in the United States and European intelligence would have

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confirmed that because we have satellites there, we would be

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aware that that's what was taking place. But no, that

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was pretext and what was it pretext to because Zelenski,

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I think did a very good job with Europe calling

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Donald Trump and Putin's bluff, and Zelensky says, look, we'll

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give We're open to a territorial conceps. We'll give a

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portion of you want, don bas you want some of

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the areas of Eastern Ukraine. Okay, but here's how we're

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going to do it. Let's all agree to a sixty

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to ninety day ceasefire, because how could we give it

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up if there's no ceasefire. And then let's put a

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vote to the public, and let's make it a free

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and fair vote, and let the Ukrainians vote do they

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want to be Ukrainians.

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Speaker 2: Which by the way, is part of their constitution.

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Speaker 1: Which is exactly or do they want to be Russian?

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And that's when Putin was like, all right, what do

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we do? What do we do?

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Speaker 4: What do we do?

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Speaker 1: Let's say he attacked us. Let's say that he attacked

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and he broke up the settlement. But it's a very

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The broader point I want to make here is it's

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a very pieces war. War is peace nineteen eighty four

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trumpy and tactic. Because then Putin's like, we're going to

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have to have a a We're gonna have to proceed

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differently now in these negotiations with this terroristic regime. And

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though if you look at the rest of the world,

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I mean, we're talking about Ukraine, and rightfully so, but

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like even today, did you catch the news this morning

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that there were Saudi Arabian air strikes in the southern

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area of Yemen that were targeting a group that's like

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a separatist group, but it was really targeting UAE. UAE

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had a presence there where previously they were working with

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Saudi Arabia against the Huthis in the Yemen area. But

476
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now Saudi Arabia accuses UAE of working with a separatist

477
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group against the Saudi control in Yemen. And so the

478
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,880
Saudis did a strike that was basically a strike at

479
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the UAE, and UAE's pissed. And never before have you

480
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had the Saudis and the UAE in this direct conflict

481
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:51,839
like this.

482
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Speaker 4: Everybody in China.

483
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: You got China now making moves, which Trump says, well,

484
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,880
they've been doing it for twenty years. Maybe law right,

485
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,960
much more significant, much bigger, right than what's going on

486
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:08,440
now out right in off the shores of Taiwan.

487
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,559
Speaker 4: I mean, you have you.

488
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,319
Speaker 2: Know, Trump making uh still claims about taking Greenland. Whatever

489
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,839
happened by the way, to our invasion of Panama, because

490
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,440
you know that's been stolen from us, or you know you.

491
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: Remember this going you remember when a Kim Jong un

492
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,519
cruise missile test under Obama would be used by all

493
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,000
the right wing to say, look how weak Obama is,

494
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,640
Like you're letting Kim jong un. You know, Kim jong

495
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:40,519
un just tested as long range missiles in coordination with

496
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,119
China's tests around Taiwan, and it doesn't get a blip.

497
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:46,759
It gets a blitp maybe from some of these like

498
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:50,519
military open source sites that I and you and the

499
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,440
minus tench network follows, But like that was the big

500
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:56,119
right wing talking point Obama's week, You're gonna let Kim

501
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,839
jong un do these tests?

502
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Ben, here's whole thing. And I know

503
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:05,440
each and every one of you are going to understand

504
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,559
and acknowledge what I'm about to say. For the last

505
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:16,880
let's just say eighty years, right, there has been an

506
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:22,680
adage that is strong America means a strong world. A

507
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:29,839
week America produces a week world right now where week

508
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:35,880
all right, America is not respected around the world. Here's

509
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,440
what they know. From Vladimir Putin to I don't know,

510
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:51,039
to the president of South Korea to Japan, to even

511
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:56,920
companies like Apple, all you need to do is show

512
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,039
up or for example, even bb net and Yahoo with

513
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,920
his Israel Prize, the highest award to be given to

514
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:11,160
an Israeli, well, the highest Israeli award that's given. You

515
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:16,400
need to show up with a shiny object, with a gift.

516
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,559
It's like, I don't know, you want to be noticed

517
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,960
at somebody's wedding, you show up with a big gift.

518
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,319
That's what it is. Whether it is a tim cook

519
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:28,440
five pound piece of gold that is the base of

520
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:33,680
a trophy, or it is a gold crown, or if

521
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,160
your cutter you give a four hundred million dollar aircraft,

522
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,319
or you know, or if your FIFA you give the

523
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,680
FIFA Award with a I don't know, a little object

524
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,400
to hang around your neck.

525
00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:49,039
Speaker 4: This is the problem.

526
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,559
Speaker 2: They all know that they can do whatever they want,

527
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:57,920
that the United States under President Donald J. Trump will

528
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:03,599
not interfere if you bring him a shiny object. It's

529
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,759
really amazing. It's almost like, don't look over there. I

530
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,960
forget the fucking missiles that are flying into Ukraine into Kiev,

531
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,840
that are taking out electric grids and so on. And

532
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,679
by the way, if Ukraine sent a couple of drones

533
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,880
into Moscow into Red Square proper, they would have every

534
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,320
fucking right to do it. They are at war you're

535
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,480
bombing Kiev. So fucking bomb Moscow. I mean, it's just

536
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,679
that simple, right, All of a sudden, it's like, oh, yeah,

537
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,320
you know, they attacked us. They attacked you, because asshole.

538
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:41,280
For four fucking years, you have been decimating and shooting

539
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,840
at civilians and killing people, just indiscriminately because you think

540
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,760
you can, and you can, because we don't have power.

541
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,760
We don't have power in the presidency anymore. Again, don't

542
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,039
look over here, look over here, and what's over here

543
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,599
a shiny object that we're gonna give to the President

544
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:00,920
of the United States. All of it's sudden, all of

545
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,480
a sudden, your best pals. Yeah, oh, you know, we

546
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,159
talk all the time. He loves he loves me, I

547
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,559
love it. It's it's a love affair. Meanwhile, it's a

548
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,280
love affair. They're shooting fucking long range rockets. I'm talking

549
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,400
about Kim Jong un that can easily hit the United States.

550
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:20,360
What are we doing anymore? What are we doing?

551
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

552
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: No, it The main deterrent right now to a world

553
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:33,320
war is nuclear deterrence and mutually assured destruction mad But

554
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:38,519
for nuclear deterrence, there's a world war happening right right

555
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:41,480
now because again, if you look at every conflict that's

556
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:46,039
just taking place this year, Russia's invasion of Ukraine accelerating,

557
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:50,559
Thailand and Cambodia, China and Taiwan. Kim Jong un in

558
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:55,159
North Korea launching the missiles, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Yemen, the Hohoth,

559
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:58,440
he's there, attacking in the reds, attacking in the Strait

560
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,719
of Hair, moves Israel destroying and demolishing Gaza, and the

561
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,719
massacre that's taken place there. You know, Donald Trump has

562
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,199
Donald Trump is saying, you know, it really is war

563
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,519
is peace right he wants to. It's actually never been

564
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,000
a more unstable world. Then you talk about Donald Trump,

565
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,519
we had troops in Syria, when you're like, we have

566
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:24,480
troops in Venezuela. We have true we have boots on

567
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,920
the ground in Syria, because our troops in Syria, you know,

568
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,400
got killed recently. And Trump blamed it purely on ISIS,

569
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,960
which he says he destroyed, but also apparently they exist

570
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,360
there and in Nigeria. Although Donald Trump struck an area

571
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,639
in Nigeria saying he's saving the Christians, which nobody wants

572
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:47,280
to follow up and realize that ISIS doesn't target Christians

573
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,599
in Nigeria. Muslims get hit equally or more than Christians there.

574
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:56,079
And also Nigeria is more tribal than religious face. But

575
00:36:56,119 --> 00:36:57,559
you may want to look at the fact that the

576
00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:01,159
opposition leader is a Christian and may want to use

577
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,280
that as a way to get Donald Trump to remove

578
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,519
the governing party right now that's doing deals with China,

579
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:12,039
which has lithium and oil interests in Nigeria, while the

580
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:15,719
US is going after Venezuela, going after I think it

581
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,199
wants the oil reserves and lithium deposits in Nigeria, wants

582
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:23,280
the rare earth elements of Greenland and says we're taking

583
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,239
over Greenland. But just listen to the words also of

584
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,320
Marco Rubio and Donald Trump, what they've said about the world.

585
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,840
And you hear that they've made statements that we live

586
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,599
in a multi polar world where America isn't the leader.

587
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,440
They've said that. I mean, go look at Rubio's speeches.

588
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,599
Rubio says Western Hemisphere belongs to the United States. Everything

589
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:50,239
else is a vassal state. Whether you're Canada, Greenland, Mexico,

590
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:54,960
Central America, South America, you're subservient to the US. US

591
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,719
owns you and controls you. If you're in the Western hemisphere.

592
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,119
If you're in Europe, Russia control you. Europe you belong

593
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:05,360
to Russia. Russia controls that entire European sphere of influence.

594
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,800
And then China controls Asia. And so we've like given

595
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,960
up protections to Japan, to South Korea. And it's interesting

596
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:18,639
because you still have some people in the State Department

597
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:22,000
and in the military doing their best to show support

598
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:25,679
for South Korea and Japan. And so occasionally you'll get

599
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,800
these gestures where like we'll fly a plane and have it,

600
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,800
you know, do rounds around Japan, and then the media

601
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,039
will be like, you see the US supported Japan right here.

602
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:41,800
They'll do things like that, but then they'll will undermine it.

603
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,559
When Donald Trump's asked a question, I think I mean, Jeremy,

604
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,440
Let's find this clip where Trump is asked about Jijiping's

605
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:54,360
military exercises against Taiwan, and Trump is asked to respond

606
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,119
to it, and Trump's like, yeah, he never told me

607
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:00,000
anything about you. He like, I have a good relationship,

608
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,440
would you we have a good relationship. You never told

609
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,840
me about it. You're playing this club doing naval exercises

610
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,679
basically to test encircling Taiwan. Can you explain to us

611
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,679
what your knowledge is of that? What do you think

612
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,039
about that? Have you had any discussions.

613
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,199
Speaker 5: With Well, I have a great relationship with Presidency, and

614
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,760
he hasn't told me anything about it. I certainly have

615
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,920
seen it, but he hasn't told me anything about it.

616
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:29,519
And I don't believe he's going to be doing it. No,

617
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,599
nothing worries me.

618
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,119
Speaker 1: Nothing.

619
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,519
Speaker 5: There's fire.

620
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:34,559
Speaker 1: Right, So if you're in circle, if you're doing naval

621
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:35,960
exercises and air.

622
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:42,159
Speaker 5: Exercises, doing naval exercises for twenty years in that area.

623
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:45,599
Now people take it a little bit differently, but in

624
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:49,199
fact larger than they're doing right now. So we'll see.

625
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,119
But they've been they've been doing that for twenty twenty

626
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:51,599
five years.

627
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, think about it about naval exercises, about like playing

628
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,360
with his belly button, right, so that you get the

629
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,599
Inny to be Audi and Anadi to be an any

630
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,840
This is some of the dumbest things I've ever heard

631
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,079
anybody say in my entire life. I mean, there is

632
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:13,960
no so with great friends, they're doing these naval exercises

633
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,639
and yet somehow or another, I don't know anything about it.

634
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:22,519
But as President of the United States, I'm going to

635
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:26,119
make a statement that they're not really doing anything. They

636
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:29,320
don't anticipate and I don't believe anything. I'm not worried

637
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,119
if they do or they don't, I don't really care.

638
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,639
But I'm going to turn around and I'm going to

639
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,840
make a very emphatic statement that I don't believe anything

640
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,400
is coming out of this. How about, as President of

641
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,199
the United States, that some of these idiots that are

642
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,239
around him, these enablers, these sycophans, these acolytes, these these

643
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:55,960
cabinet members, how about somebody do just a sintilla of investigation,

644
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,719
give him his five talking points onto it. I'm gonna

645
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,440
be reaching out to President g in order to find out,

646
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,599
you know what they intend. I'm gonna send my Secretary

647
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:12,679
of State Marco Rubio. Oops, sorry, my real political genius

648
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,480
minds Steve Whitkoff, and my idiot son in law Jared.

649
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:19,840
I meant my incredible son in law Jared over there,

650
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,480
you know, to China, because I want them to bring

651
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:25,960
me back some Chinese food. I hear it's much better.

652
00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:28,199
Speaker 4: I hear it's much better over there than over here.

653
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: They make it with a whole lot less sodium and MSG,

654
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,719
and so I needed to and then all of a sudden,

655
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,519
I'm gonna send them over there and we're gonna find

656
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,000
out exactly what's going on. But instead they don't even

657
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,079
say anything that's remotely normal. They turn around, they make

658
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:49,679
these emphatic statements that are so damaging to our country,

659
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:55,159
to the respectability of our country on the foreign stage.

660
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,880
There really is just no way to explain any There's

661
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,719
no point in having these pressers because you're not getting

662
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,960
legitimate answers. What you're getting is just off the cuff

663
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:16,400
ramblings that are truly, just truly ridiculous.

664
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,639
Speaker 1: You know, here's my view. I think with these pressers,

665
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,239
I'd actually be okay with the media covering it and

666
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,079
showing up if they used it as a way to

667
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,679
fact check it right away the way we do. Like

668
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,760
if they said, here's what he said, and then they said,

669
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,519
let me explain to you why everything he said is false,

670
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:42,039
not because you don't like him, as the media, although

671
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:46,320
you shouldn't like him, but because he's saying false things.

672
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,400
So if they wanted to lead the evening news and

673
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,159
say here's what Trump said, and we're going to explain

674
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:56,000
to you why it's false, because here's what's actually happening

675
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:58,239
in the world, and here's the reality, and here's the

676
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,599
objective truth. I think there's usefulness in sending reporters ask

677
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:05,519
him the questions, have him lie, then fact check it.

678
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,039
You could try to cross examine him there. I'd like

679
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,159
to see the reporters do a better job. But even

680
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:13,039
if you didn't, then you go back to the studio

681
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,159
and you say why this is a lie? And if

682
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:17,360
he's telling the truth, you can say he's telling the truth.

683
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,320
Like it doesn't that's.

684
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: What credit is doing. Hold him accountable where he's held accountable.

685
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: But what they do is they will just run the

686
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:29,800
story Donald Trump strikes isis in Nigeria to save the

687
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,440
Christians on Christmas. I mean, like you realize media, you're

688
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,079
being the Christmas gift, Like you realize that in his

689
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:41,159
own demented mind, he's just creating his home alone story

690
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,320
of like what you do on Christmas and then using Christians.

691
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,480
By the way, if Donald Trump cared about Christians from Nigeria,

692
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,679
then why is he using ice to round him up

693
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:54,679
and send him back into port Why why would you

694
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,280
just say that the white people. The white Afrikaaners from

695
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,400
South Africa are the only grouping persecuted. If you believe

696
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,239
that Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted.

697
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: Because then that's what Jesus would do.

698
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you care about the Christians getting killed in Ukraine?

699
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:15,559
Speaker 2: Jesus wouldn't care, according to Maga right.

700
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: And in fact, what they'll do in Ukraine is they'll

701
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,480
use Christianity and lie and say the Ukrainians are attacking

702
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:29,519
the Christians in Ukraine and they're buying the Putin talking point.

703
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,639
Speaker 2: So no, the Putin theme wasn't about the Christians. It

704
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:36,280
was that they're anti Semites, and there was a few

705
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,400
initially it was initially it was that Putin was standing

706
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,599
up for the Jews in Ukraine. You see, here's the problem,

707
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,679
because there's always a scintilla of truth to what's there,

708
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,840
but it's the big theme, the big picture. Yes, there

709
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:58,000
was tremendous anti Semitism in Ukraine going back into the seventies,

710
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seventy two, seventy three, seventy four when there was a massive,

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massive exodus of Jews out of Ukraine because they were

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told to leave. And I'm telling this to each and

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every one of you from firsthand experience, as my wife

714
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was born in Ukraine, lived there until she was about

715
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six years old, and in nineteen seventy two they were

716
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told that they have six months within which to leave,

717
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and so they did. They were added there by nineteen

718
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seventy three, along with waves. If you ask any Ukrainian,

719
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ask any Ukrainian that's I don't know, fifty years or older,

720
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why did you leave? What ye did you leave? They'll

721
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tell you seventy two seventy three, and why because we

722
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were told to leave. In fact, on my wife's passport,

723
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her Ukrainian passport as a six year old, when it

724
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says nationality, it doesn't say Ukrainian, it says Jewish. I mean, yes,

725
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there was anti Semitism, but okay, fast forward to twenty

726
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:04,920
twenty twenty one, when Vladimir Putin decided again to now

727
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invade Ukraine. He did it under the guys that he

728
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was protecting the Jews that are in Ukraine, and it did.

729
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And yes, it should be noted that Zelensky happens to

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be Jewish, even though I don't know if he's a

731
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practicing Jew, but he's still Jewish by birth. The point

732
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is I've been to Kiev, I've been to Ukraine. Let

733
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me tell you, I never felt the anti semitism there.

734
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I'm sure it exists as it exists here in the

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United States, but you don't invade a sovereign nation on

736
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that theory.

737
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Speaker 1: Right and so but you know Putin throws whatever against

738
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the wall in season six, right, So first it's denotification

739
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then or at the same time they go Ukraine's an

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artificial state. Then it is you know, Zelensky's a dictator

741
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and we got to depose the dictator because there's no elections,

742
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even though there's martial law, because there's the unlawful invasion.

743
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Then they launder into the United States. Oh look, Ukraine's

744
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:14,039
going after the Christians, and watch they're attacking the Christian

745
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:17,880
community there while Putin's blowing up the churches there. And

746
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so you know, my my home is being attacked by Zelenski.

747
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:25,320
And by the way, just replace some of that stuff

748
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with all of you know, the stuff that Trump basically,

749
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,440
the twenty twenty election is rigged. You know, everyone's spying

750
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,559
on me, and you know it's it's this, it's comes

751
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:39,960
from the same playbook. And going to your point where

752
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,239
you say, sometimes there's some truth to these things, and

753
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,000
then they create a broader narrative to achieve power. I mean,

754
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you take a look at Minnesota, for example, and there

755
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:52,760
was fraud in Minnesota. You know who prosecuted the fraud

756
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,840
in Minnesota? Biden. Biden's DJ uncovered the fraud, which now

757
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,880
the Trump DJ and FBR was like, look, we did it.

758
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:03,360
Biden's DJ found it. By the way, there's like one

759
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,119
hundred billion or fifty to one hundred billion dollars. Unfortunately,

760
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,840
that takes place almost on a yearly basis with kind

761
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,519
of Medicare medicaid fraud and people looting government programs. It's

762
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something that happens. That's actually where the waste, fraud and

763
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:20,400
abuse is. And when you have a functioning DOJ, you

764
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go after the bad guys.

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Speaker 2: Ben can we can we just stop for one second

766
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and remind the audience here that one of the largest

767
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Medicare medicaid frauds was by Tim Scott, who was the

768
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former governor of Florida.

769
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Speaker 4: That's part there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's where that's where I was going next with them.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, really, yeah, of.

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Speaker 1: Cour we just have graphics lined up for you when you.

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Speaker 4: I apologize that wash.

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Speaker 2: I was really impressed for about a half a second.

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Speaker 1: There, no go go with him that The editors are impressive.

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They anticipate where Cohen's gonna go.

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Speaker 2: You know, That's that's one of the problems when you

778
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have what's called instant recall memory I r M, which

779
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Tim Scott, who I have met several times. This is

780
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a guy who more than more than a billion dollars

781
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,760
in medicare Medicare for it. By the way, I can't

782
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tell you the number of what's that, Rick Scott, Rick Scott, exactly,

783
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,039
Rick Scott. The interesting thing is, do you know how

784
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:22,039
many members of mar Lago are committing the same sorts

785
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of fraud day in and day out. But if you're

786
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a member there and you're actually making a let's just

787
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:32,920
call it a gratuitous financial gesture, you know, to the

788
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president or to one of his companies, well, lo and behold,

789
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and that's okay. You know you're let's just say you're forgiven.

790
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Speaker 4: Right.

791
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Speaker 2: You know, this whole waste fraud and abuse, we all

792
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:49,599
know that it exists, all right, It exists from the

793
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Department of Defense. Well, I'm sorry, the Department of War.

794
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,280
All the way down to I don't know your local

795
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,480
store that takes food stamp. There's always fraud, waste, and

796
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:07,400
abuse in everything. It's just unfortunate, all right, but it happens.

797
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,599
In fact, then do you know that when they were

798
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taking money from the government, the PPP money for COVID

799
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relief that there is right now still to this day,

800
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:28,199
and nobody talks about it. One trillion dollars, not a billion,

801
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:34,119
not a million, one trillion dollars of money that is missing.

802
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: Nobody knows where the hell is.

803
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: How the fuck do you possibly lose a trillion dollars

804
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,719
that you don't know where that money went. And that's

805
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,199
one of the three trillion dollars that Trump earmarked for

806
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,119
COVID relief, by the way, if that was what was

807
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necessary to keep the country going, and so I'm all

808
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,880
for it, But there's one trillion dollars of the three

809
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,400
that nobody knows where the hell it went. There's another

810
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:05,719
trillion dollars, so two out of the three are fraud,

811
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waste and abuse two of the three trillion. Right also

812
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deals with people who took advantage of the system, people

813
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,800
like Jared Kushner who went ahead and despite making I

814
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,639
don't know what it was forty million, fifty million a

815
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:28,840
year just from managing Saudi Arabian money that they took

816
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,039
like twelve or thirteen million dollars of PPP money because

817
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,800
everybody thought it was free. How about take the money back,

818
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,280
how about get the money back. It's not supposed to

819
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,960
be a gift. I didn't take a dollar. I didn't

820
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,119
get a dollar. I paid my taxes. They took the taxes,

821
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:47,159
they used it, and they gave it away and nobody

822
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,519
kept an eye on it. So don't talk to me,

823
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:54,199
mister president, or Rick Scott's of the world, or Kushner's

824
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,960
or any of these enablers that are inside there about

825
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,880
for God's sakes, about fraud, waste, and abuse. You are

826
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:07,440
the fraud, waste and abuse. One point seven billion dollars

827
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:10,360
by Rick Scott? What's one point three billion?

828
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 4: Right? By Epstein?

829
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: Oh?

830
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: No, phyllis formis.

831
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: By the way, I happened to know happened to know

832
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,239
him as well, one point three billion. Trump pardoned him.

833
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,880
He was actually on the other side where I was

834
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,639
at in Otisville. He commuted his sentence all together. Right,

835
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:32,880
four money, plain and simple. This nonsense of using fraud, waste,

836
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,239
and abuse one hundred percent. I would love to see

837
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,840
no fraud, no waste, no abuse in the entire system,

838
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,559
not gonna happen, not today, not tomorrow, and ever. And

839
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:43,320
you know what, let's let's turn around and let's at

840
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,239
least be honest about you know where this fraud, waste

841
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,800
and abuse is coming from. And a whole lot of it,

842
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:51,199
a whole lot, not one hundred percent, but a whole

843
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:53,320
lot of it is coming out of this administration.

844
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you give some of the stats. Trump

845
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,960
has pardoned over thirty five plus criminals who were convicted

846
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:03,320
of committing over one point seven billion dollars in fraud.

847
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,280
I don't think that even includes the latest Ponzi schemer

848
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:09,400
who he pardoned, who was involved in a multi billion

849
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:15,000
dollar Ponzi scheme fraud with consumers and small investors getting

850
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:19,280
really screwed as well. You mentioned Philip as formas Medicare

851
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,559
fraud one point three billion dollars. You literally have the

852
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,719
maga Republican senator who is the main guy that they

853
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,559
use as like their healthcare guy, Rick Scott. He made

854
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,280
his money like he got the golden parachute. He got

855
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,760
three hundred million dollars personally as he retired and basically

856
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,760
ran away after invoking his Fifth Amendment seventy five times

857
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,960
to avoid to avoid prison.

858
00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: So you know, even your dogs are angry, as am I. Hey, coach,

859
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,639
I think is a great time for my two fingers salute.

860
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:51,840
And I know this is going to be crazy because

861
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,519
I promised in twenty twenty five that I would not

862
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,480
ever give the two fingers salute to the president. But

863
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:01,440
in all fairness, with all of this shit, when I'm watching,

864
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:06,719
for example, individuals who stole one point three billion dollars,

865
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,039
all right and then gets a commutation, you got another

866
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:13,440
one point seven billion and just thirty five people, and

867
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,039
that again, as Ben said, does not include does not

868
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,559
include who for example, you know, like the like the

869
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:25,400
crypto guys and so on, which probably brings it to

870
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,480
a whole other level. Altogether. It's fucking bullshit, all right.

871
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:32,440
Let's all just call it for what it is. It's pure,

872
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:37,519
unadulterated bullshit, all right, And you know what, fuck you, seriously,

873
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,920
fuck you for doing that.

874
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: All right.

875
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: As the president of the United States, you are your obligation,

876
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:49,159
all right, is to protect not just America, meaning the soil.

877
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,400
But Americans are values, the Constitution and none of this

878
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:56,719
shit that's going on right now. And I give him

879
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,280
I everything always has to start at the despite the

880
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:07,159
fact that he is being he's being pushed by these

881
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,159
enablers who are all doing it for their own financial

882
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,760
and personal gains. Just like what happened during the very

883
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,559
first administration, everybody, everybody figures out that they can stick

884
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:22,159
with Trump long enough that they could make a shit

885
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,000
ton of money.

886
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:24,639
Speaker 4: And that's all that's happening right now.

887
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 2: It's these uber uber rich are getting richer by the second,

888
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:33,199
while the rest of the country, all right, especially the

889
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,400
middle class, getting squeezed down to nothing. And you know what,

890
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:40,840
fuck you guys for doing that, all right, And mister

891
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,840
President again, you know, shit flows from the top.

892
00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 4: This is on you.

893
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,159
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for watching, and because this

894
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will be our last political beat down before the New

895
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,039
Year's our next episodes. On the first, I want to

896
00:55:56,039 --> 00:55:59,559
wish everybody a very happy new year. It's been an

897
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:02,920
honor fighting by your side every step of the way

898
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,880
this year. It's of course been a challenging, difficult, at

899
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,239
times very depressing year, but it's also been a year

900
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,559
filled with just being honored by your courage and your strength,

901
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,960
and the resilience of the American people and people across

902
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,320
the world who have held the line, who have not

903
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:30,079
back down. And while institutions have crumbled, while people we

904
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,039
used to respect ben the knee, and it was difficult

905
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:38,199
for us to grasp to see that take place before

906
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,639
our eyes see that betrayal take place. You know, new

907
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,119
leaders have risen, a new group of leaders are here,

908
00:56:48,119 --> 00:56:52,239
and I'm glad that independent media has been one of

909
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,719
the things this year and I think has made a difference,

910
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,000
along with so much, so much else. The grassroots organized,

911
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,960
the individuals who show up at no kings, the people

912
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,440
at home who just do their part every day to

913
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:09,159
get the message out and to keep the faith and

914
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,159
to keep the hope. You know that to me is

915
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,440
really the defining word to me of twenty twenty five

916
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:22,039
is resilience, resiliency against all odds. And let's turn that

917
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:26,960
resiliency into victory as we go into the next year.

918
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So thank you, everybody. Make sure you subscribe to Michael

919
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Cohen's other YouTube channels called at the Michael Cohen Show.

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That channel's on its way to one million subscribers. You

921
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,199
probably saw the Legal AF channel got to one million.

922
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We got to get Cohen's channel to one million as well.

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I want to see all the Midas channels hit one

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Subscribe to the Maya Culpa audio podcast. Go and check

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that out. Wherever you get audio podcasts, subscribe to Maya Culpa.

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Subscribe to Michael Cohen substack. Cohen's a great I mean,

928
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truly mean. Cohen's a great writer, and I love I

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love his work. I love reading his work. There's so

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many people that you know.

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Speaker 2: Cohens are really number thirteen right now in the substack list.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's go a lot of it.

933
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Speaker 2: Thanks to Midas Touched Network because they also they post

934
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my substack articles on a regular basis. And forever appreciative, Ben,

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to you, and to Brett and to Jordi, into the

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entire Midas Touch team, Jeremy and Salty and Sydney, you know,

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our EPs and everybody at the company. I can't tell

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you how important independent media like Midas Touched Network is

939
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a place where whether you like what you're hearing from

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me or you don't, I know many of you get

941
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angry at me, but you're only.

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Speaker 4: Gonna get facts.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get opinions here because if you

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want opinion TV, then turn on Fox, turn on CNN

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or MSNBC. But if you want it predicated on fact,

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this is the place to come. And let's try to

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get Midas to twelve million. They're about six million now.

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If each and every one of you brings one person,

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that'll be your job, right for twenty twenty six. Bring

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one person to this network, just one. You double it overnight,

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and then we're gonna do it again and again and

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again so that we could make sure that twenty twenty six,

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you can't. We'd be so big, so unstoppable, so vocal,

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so angry that nothing and I mean nothing can stop

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us right from ensuring that both the House and maybe

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the Senate to go our.

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Speaker 1: Way right and and the way let me and I

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just want to say this at the end too. The

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way I define our way, you know, is no matter what,

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this is what I want Midas Touched to be for

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now and in the future. Our way I define as truth, democra,

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see as empathy, as love, as trying to uplift and

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not punch down to marginalize communities. And so wherever that is,

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wherever that points that to me is my guiding star.

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And I think one of the things that have been

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important over about building this network is not chasing politicians.

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Where we've led with our values and our principles here

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and have led with the mightas way what that is.

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Let others join in that way, but lead with principles

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and values. And when you lead there, it's not difficult

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to figure out where you side on an issue because

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the values and principles guide you, guide the way for you.

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And so anyway, I'll leave you with that to think about.

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Thanks everybody for watching hit subscribe, go check out all

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of Always channels, and we'll see you next time on

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Political Beatdown. Happy New Year, everybody, m

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Speaker 4: HM.