WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:06.280 It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZ Constance News Radio. 2 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:09.839 Over the weekend, actually Friday night, there was a horrific 3 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:15.279 murder homicide in Plymouth, Massachusetts, and we're going to talk 4 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.519 with the Plymouth County District Attorney, Tim Cruz in just 5 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:24.160 one minute. But Tim, with your permission, we have to 6 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:27.600 give away two tickets to Celtic Thunder at the Premier 7 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:31.600 Theater and Foxwoods on November seventh. Folks, don't call in 8 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.600 and take these tickets unless you're gonna use them. This 9 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.479 is set Off a music that's set off on a 10 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:42.159 musical journey with the Irish Musics Sensations. 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If Dan tells you call 22 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.120 a one or call her three, you can call back. 23 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:29.120 There's no penalty for calling back multiple times. In the meantime, 24 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.319 we're going to talk with the Plymouth County District Attorney, 25 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:35.719 Tim Cruz. Tim, you have just been elected to a 26 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:39.560 National District Attorney's Association. First of all, tell us we'll 27 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.040 go to the good news before we go to the 28 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:42.959 bad news. 29 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.000 Yeah, I've been elected. I've been lucky enough. I'm a 30 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.000 member of the National Districttorneys Association for a number of 31 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:50.760 years now. I've been one of the vice presidents for 32 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:54.280 a number of years, and last summer I was voted 33 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:57.239 in this president elect. So in twenty twenty five, I'll 34 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.000 be taking over the reigns of the National DA's Association, 35 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:03.760 which consists really of twenty you know, more than twenty 36 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:07.560 five hundred local and state procutors office across America with 37 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.800 more than six thousand members and really bringing things together. 38 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:12.879 The mission of the DAS or try to seek justice 39 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.159 in our cases, trying to make sure we can put 40 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.639 best practices together and try to make sure we can 41 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:19.400 keep people safe. And it's really an honor and a 42 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:21.159 privilege to do and I'm looking forward to do it. 43 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:23.159 And as a matter of fact, today I was with 44 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.479 some of the some of my other electors from across 45 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.479 America at a meeting down down Washington, d C. Down 46 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:33.000 the Pom the Justice and seeing where we're going next steps. 47 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:35.960 So I'm very excited about it, and I'm looking forward 48 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.400 to working hard to make sure we can continue to 49 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:39.919 do good work that's been happen around here. 50 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:42.520 Is this the same group, By the way, I'm told 51 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.000 that we have a winner for those Celtic tickets, so 52 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.120 you can stop calling the number. The pholds are going 53 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:53.400 crazy here and and you you obviously weren't able to call. 54 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.719 So is this the same organization that our good mutual friend, 55 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:59.120 John Blodgett at one point was the president of. 56 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.080 Yes, it is this. When I become president next summer, 57 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:07.159 it'll be the seventy fifth year of the National DA's Association, 58 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:10.680 which is really the largest prosecutors association in America. And 59 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:13.080 John was the president probably I think it was back 60 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.159 four or five years back. And John did a trumendous 61 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.800 job and was able to, you know, really get get 62 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:22.319 me involved in the whole program and dealing with a 63 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.240 lot of the issues. And I'm thankful to him for that. 64 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:26.960 And you know, as we go forward, we see the 65 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:29.719 many challenges that we face. There's so many things going 66 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:32.599 on a daily basis, and our job is so busy, 67 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:34.759 and you're juggling a lot of balls in the air 68 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:37.199 making sure that you know, you can keep your offices 69 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:39.400 running the way they should be, make sure it's funded, 70 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:41.960 make sure you get best practices, make sure that people 71 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:44.840 understand you what the prosecutor does. That we continue to 72 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:47.280 work on the front end of many different things, helping 73 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:50.840 kids who are dragging dangered kids, would challenge advers, challenge experiences, 74 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.800 all sorts of things, and you know, on the back 75 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:56.199 end in the middle, we have specialty courts and we're 76 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.960 trying to help people. That's our goal. But sometimes obviously 77 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.800 and obviously the best way you can help our community 78 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.159 and help victims and make sure that victims have put 79 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.560 where they belong in the forefront rather than the back burner. 80 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.360 We need to make sure that people understand that. All 81 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:12.919 too often, you know, we live in a world where defendants, 82 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.639 the treated victims, and the real victims are invisible. We 83 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:18.560 need to make sure that our victims are heard. And 84 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:21.720 that's what really is the challenge I think many times nowadays. 85 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:27.279 I think it was also a d a DAP in 86 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:31.000 Syracuse Bill Fitzpatrick, who I've interviewed as well, who was 87 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.160 also one of your predecessors. So you're in some good 88 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.560 company and they have a great successor. Let's talk about 89 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:41.279 what happened in Plymouth on Friday night. This is as 90 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:46.319 bizarre a shooting that I can imagine. This is five 91 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:48.879 thirty at night on Friday night. 92 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.560 Yeah, yeah, and a Friday night, and a beautiful night 93 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:55.720 don and Plymouth, if you recall, the weather was really nice. 94 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:57.959 And you know where this event took place. It was 95 00:04:58.040 --> 00:04:59.879 right off of Main Street, which is really the middle 96 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:02.680 of the road. It's the road that the Plymouth parades 97 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.120 go down every year. And there's a side street, a 98 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.279 middle street, which has a town talking area and many 99 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:12.720 people pocket vehicles there and that's why you know, thirty 100 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.279 five forty five Friday night on this terrible event occurred, 101 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.879 which has changed people's lives and also it really affects 102 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:21.600 the community. 103 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:27.839 Yeah again, I know that you've commented on it, but 104 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:32.920 there is a twenty three year old who's facing a 105 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:36.120 charge of murder, one count of murder, discharging a firearm 106 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:38.800 within five hundred feet of a building, reckless endangerment of 107 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:42.319 a child, improper storage for a firearm, negligent operation of 108 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.319 a motor vehicle, improper storage of AMMO, and possession of 109 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:49.079 large capacity FEITI device. And this guy had his eighteen 110 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:52.199 month old son in the backseat of his car when 111 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.639 there was some sort of a fender bender. This is 112 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:57.600 this was over a fender bender. 113 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:02.399 It appears the it was a minor traffic incident and 114 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.319 it certainly escalated out of control and it well, you know, 115 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:07.800 I mean, the only thing that common in all these 116 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:11.079 events day and that you see is that really everybody loses. 117 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:14.279 Everybody loses. You know, the defendant now has significant issues 118 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:15.879 he's going to have to deal in the court system. 119 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.279 The victims. Stanley is always going to be changed, it's 120 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.959 always going to be different. A man's lost his life, 121 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.639 and it affects a very quiet town like America's hometown 122 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:28.319 of Plymouth, and you know they're down there and the 123 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.279 plot players think did a great job that night they 124 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.439 showed up and really quieted the area down there. But 125 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:37.279 you know that's the sort of news that you know, 126 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.199 no town wants to have that. No town wants to 127 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.279 have something happening in a beautiful the area where people 128 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.199 are going. It's very crowded, you know, in the Fall area. 129 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.879 So it's really it's too bad that. You know, those 130 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:51.480 are the issues that we're going to have to deal with. 131 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:53.879 You know, we're going to continue to do like we 132 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.879 always do. You know, we'll do a job, slow, methodical. 133 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.399 The defendant was arranged today in those charges. He was 134 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.160 held with out bail as usually as the norm with 135 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:08.399 you know, homicide allegations. Yeah, he usually as a presenttion, 136 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:10.600 you're gonna held without bail. He's held without bail in 137 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:14.000 case was put over to December thirteenth, and the investigation 138 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.920 might remains ongoing and we'll go from ford from there. 139 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:22.720 Well, there's the judge that set bail or denied bail. 140 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:27.480 Scott Peterson is a really solid judge. Obviously, the defense attorney, 141 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.480 I think it's Jack Edward. I will probably take that 142 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:34.879 up and appeal it to a superior cord. But I mean, 143 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:37.199 one guy did forty one years old he has a 144 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:39.319 couple of kids, as I understand it, and this guy 145 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:43.480 had an eighteen month old baby boy in the backseat 146 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.879 of his own car. And this is all over a 147 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.560 fender bender. That's what lives. One life lost, the other 148 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.959 life has been impacted forever. The eighteen month old child, 149 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.319 he's going to be without a dad for probably some 150 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:02.079 period of time unless somehow, some way the circumstances that 151 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:06.079 we are unaware of, and both of them apparently had 152 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:07.079 license to carry. 153 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:11.160 Yeah, yeah, I mean, it was an absolute tragedy. The 154 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:13.560 victim in this case didn't have any weapons on him, 155 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:18.839 but you know, the the whatever whatever preceded the event, which, 156 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:22.000 like I said, which is still remains on going matter 157 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:25.560 right now, as we go forward with it, whatever happened 158 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.600 between them, will get to the bottom of that, like 159 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.759 we always do, and then we will eventually make a 160 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:32.320 determination as the direction. 161 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:32.559 Is going to go. 162 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:35.960 It will go to the next step in the court system, 163 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:38.399 and eventually it will end up in superior court where 164 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:42.360 all homicide cases go. And you know, but you're right, 165 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.799 I mean, it just it just it just affects so 166 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:48.159 many people. It is a pebble on the pond that 167 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.720 ripple effect that now affects the entire area, if affects families, 168 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:55.000 and like I said, the only thing that everybody has 169 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:57.320 in common, and I've seen it over the years, you know, 170 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.519 my twenty three years is da you walk in these 171 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:03.720 court rooms and everybody loses, you know, and that's why, 172 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:05.960 you know, we have to make sure that you know, 173 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.200 there's such a I'm not even talking about this case, 174 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:10.399 but such a lack of civility in the world nowadays. 175 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:15.799 People have such short uses over nothing, and I think that, Yeah, 176 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.399 it's so frustrating when you see things like that, and 177 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.600 people need to understand that. And hopefully maybe somebody will 178 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:25.679 see this and say, you know what, keep you cool. Nothing, 179 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.159 nothing out there is worth it. You know, your family, 180 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.879 your family's fine, nobody get hurt. Well, let's have a conversation, 181 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:34.600 let's exchange papers and go from there. Because any damage 182 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:37.879 and motor vehicles, you know. But unfortunately this thing, this 183 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.399 thing didn't go that way. And now we we're with 184 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:43.559 all the people, were all these individuals and all these 185 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.240 circumstances going on down the Plymouth, and I said, we'll 186 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:47.080 deal with it as we will. 187 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:50.799 Yeah, my understanding is there was some representations in courte 188 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.399 today and they know that you were in Washington, so 189 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:54.639 you don't have to comment to this. But my understanding 190 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.000 is that after the individual was shot and was on 191 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:03.840 the ground, that the shooter apparently got out of his 192 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:08.279 car might have fired again, and then once he realized 193 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.919 the guy was you know, pert that badly tried to 194 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:17.240 deliver to administer CPR. Now, jess what what an insane 195 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:20.840 scene in the middle of Plymouth on a Friday night 196 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:25.480 and it helps hurts everyone and and helps no one. 197 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.519 Mister District Attorney, Tim Cruise, thank you for giving us 198 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:33.159 a little bit of background on again. Congratulations on your election. 199 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.720 I'm gonna invite callers after after we bid you a 200 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:40.559 do tonight to join the conversation because I think there's 201 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:41.919 a lot of wistome in what you have to say 202 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:44.039 for us tonight. Thank you, Tim Cruise, thank you so much. 203 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:45.879 Thank you. 204 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:50.279 When we come back, and we do have a winner 205 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:54.360 of those tickets when we come back, i'd like to 206 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.960 hear from you. I'm gonna go over this in a 207 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:00.519 little more detail, some of the reports to out of 208 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:04.600 the newspapers and television stations that I have read here 209 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:08.200 will walk through this incident, but I'd love to know 210 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:12.440 what is I mean. I think the lesson is exactly 211 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:16.759 what Tim Cruz said. But my question is how can 212 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:23.039 you find yourself in that situation where somehow someway over 213 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.960 This was a minor This was a minor fender bender. 214 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:28.840 I'm gonna break it down and I'd love to have 215 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:32.919 you participate, particularly if you're from the South Shore, because 216 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:39.080 this was an absolute unnecessary tragedy for both families. You 217 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.240 know the number six one, seven, two, five, four, ten 218 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.759 thirty and six one, seven, nine three one tenth thirty. 219 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.519 We'll be back on Nightside right after this. 220 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:50.399 Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World 221 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:53.639 Light Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 222 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:57.200 I do want to congratulate Bob Chapman of Jamaica Plane. 223 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.879 Bob has won the two tickets this hour or the 224 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.159 evening to the Celtic Thunder at the Premier Theater at 225 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:06.159 Foxwoods on November seventh. You can set off on a 226 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:10.720 musical journey with the Irish music sensations Celtic Thunder Live. 227 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:14.960 Complete show info and tickets available at Foxwoods dot com. 228 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.279 Congratulations Bob Chapman, thanks for listening to Night's Side. We 229 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.559 will have a pair of these tickets every night this 230 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.919 week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Let's take you back 231 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:27.759 to Plymouth. Okay, it's Friday night. If you remember Friday night, 232 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:31.240 it was a really lovely evening. So you have two 233 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.720 people involved in this. There's a twenty three year old guy. 234 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.759 His name is David Jerome, really not that important. He's 235 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:40.600 driving a Toyota rav four. He has its eighteen month 236 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:44.000 old son in a car seat. Just before six o'clock 237 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.679 on Friday night, apparently he gets into some sort of 238 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:50.799 a fender bender with a gentleman named Brent Berkeley. He's 239 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:55.320 forty one years old. He's driving his jeep. Berkeley was 240 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:58.519 shot several times, taken to a local hospital, and died 241 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.399 to an article in The Patriot Ledger written by David 242 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:09.120 Smith and Jessica Truffont Jerome. David Jerome, twenty three years old, 243 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:12.799 father of an eighteen month old, arraigned in Plymouth District 244 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.320 Court on Monday today, charged with one of one count 245 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:19.759 each of murder, discharging a firearm within five hundred feet 246 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:23.320 of a building, reckless endangerment of a child, improper storage 247 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:27.240 of a firearm, negligence operation of a motor vehicle, improper 248 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:32.039 storage of ammunition, and possession of a large capacity feeding device. 249 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.639 Witnesses claimed that this guy had had a beard at 250 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.039 a local bar. He bought a couple to go home. 251 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.440 He's heading home and in the parking lot. This is 252 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:46.120 not a classic road rage incident out on Root four 253 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.240 ninety five or Root three where people pull off the 254 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.840 side of the road. I remember the story this is 255 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:54.639 several years ago, where a couple of guys were going 256 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:56.639 at it in the car, you know, jumping up in 257 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:59.519 front of each other, blasting the horn. And I guess 258 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:03.519 they pulled off into one of the parking areas and 259 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:05.440 they both got out of the car. One guy went 260 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:08.720 to the trunk. He had a crossbow. He fired the crossbow, 261 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:13.080 hit the other guy right below his sternam and hit 262 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.159 pierced his heart dead. I think the guy with the 263 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.360 crossbow probably still in jail. That was as bizarre. So 264 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.960 this murder was more of This homicide was more of 265 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:29.799 a run of the mill homicide. So, according to what 266 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:34.440 was presented in open court, Jerome was the guy who 267 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.639 is the shooter allegedly was texting and driving in the 268 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.639 parking lot when he allegedly rearins Berkeley in a town 269 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.600 owned parking lot on Middle Street. The witness reported seeing 270 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.200 Berkeley get out of the car to confront Jerome, who 271 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.240 remained in his car. Allegation is that Berkeley punched Jerome 272 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.039 in the face, and then Jerome fired several shots to 273 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:00.440 his open car window, shooting Berkeley in the chest abdomen. 274 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:03.679 This according to the Assistant DA Witnesses, according to the 275 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:06.840 Patriot Ledgers, said Jerome then got out of his car, 276 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:09.399 approached Berkeley, who was on the ground, and shot him 277 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:12.879 several times while saying something along the lines of don't move. 278 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.799 Witnesses said Jerome then said something like don't give up 279 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.159 to Berkeley before he started to perform CPR. Oh my god. 280 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.759 Police on the scene moments later, Jerome was taken into custody. Berkeley, 281 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.600 taking a Beth Israel deacon his hospital in Plymouth, pronounced 282 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.039 dead from his wounds less than an hour later, at 283 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:38.200 six twenty eight pm. According to the district attorney, the 284 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:46.279 assistant district attorney who appeared in court today, Jeremy Kusman, said, 285 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.039 no matter how you look at it, this is a 286 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:50.600 case of overkill. The defense asked for one hundred thousand 287 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:53.320 dollars cash bail or one hundred thousand dollars bail, which 288 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.559 would be probably ten thousand dollars bond, suggesting it was 289 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.919 a case of self defense. The defense attorney Jack got 290 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.799 Edwards said Jerome had no criminal record, lives with his girlfriend, 291 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:05.440 and their child doesn't live there anymore, at least for now. 292 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:09.080 That would suggest it could be a case of self defense, 293 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.200 arguing that Berkeley had four bullet holes in his hand 294 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:16.639 and therefore could have been reaching for the gun. We'll 295 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:21.759 see how that works out. They are witnesses. So the 296 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:26.840 question I have is, are you haven't any second thoughts 297 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.399 when you're out driving as to who's in the road 298 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:35.519 with you? I know I am. Are you having any 299 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.600 second thoughts as to how you might respond if somebody 300 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:45.320 crawls up behind you on or four ninety five and 301 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:47.639 is flashing their lights and wants you to get out 302 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:50.720 of the way because they're obviously more important than you are. 303 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:58.039 You know, I certainly at this point figure if that 304 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:01.159 person's in that much of a rush, I'm pulling into 305 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:03.799 the middle lane and let him go bother someone else. 306 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.680 You haven't any second thoughts about somebody who maybe you're 307 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:12.200 driving on a city street or something, and I don't 308 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:17.559 know worries are exchanged. I mean, this now is becoming 309 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:22.240 too commonplace, in my opinion, and this cost one guy 310 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:27.240 his life. Had to get out of the car to 311 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.799 exchange papers. But I don't know what was said. I 312 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:34.599 wasn't there. I don't know what threats were made. There 313 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:38.799 is a report that one of the articles I read 314 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.680 was that Jerome had been in a the defendant of 315 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:43.640 this case had been in some sort of an argument 316 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:47.559 with another driver shortly before that. I don't know. I 317 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:52.319 don't know. The authorities will figure it out, we probably, 318 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:55.359 I don't know. If this is this, this won't be 319 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.599 covered like the Karen Reid case, you know, day after 320 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:04.039 day after day in court. Sad to say, but as 321 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.359 bizarre as this case is, it's almost a run of 322 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:09.160 the mill homicide. The fact that it occurred at five 323 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:12.279 thirty on a Friday afternoon, You got the weekend in 324 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.240 front of your people. Come on, what are you thinking? 325 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.599 What are you thinking? Do you think you're gonna be 326 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:19.799 able to shoot somebody a couple of times and they 327 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:23.240 just drive away. It's not the it's not the old 328 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:27.599 wild West. You're not Wyatt Up or Billy the kid. 329 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.480 I don't get it. I don't get it. I'm a 330 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:33.759 Second Amendment guy. 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Yeah, first of all, before you went 389 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:05.480 to break and gave the did all your advertisements and 390 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:07.880 so forth. A moment or two ago you mentioned that 391 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:10.599 there was a possibility or maybe I missed up, maybe 392 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:13.279 I'm misunderstolled you. I don't know about the rest of 393 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:15.839 the audience out there and in the Boston area, but 394 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.119 did you mention that this was this could have been 395 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.599 the possibility of just the run of the mill road 396 00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:22.839 rage or you just weren't sure? 397 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:27.319 Well, it was. It was an accident in a parking lot. 398 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:31.759 So it was originally reported as road rage. When I 399 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:34.640 think of road rage, I think of, you know, two 400 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.319 guys or whatever out on one twenty eight or four 401 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.519