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Give me 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,880 a call at Tom Talkgun Look, if you're a range 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,640 of ports which have been shooting, and you know, if 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,280 you bought a gun recently, we would love to hear 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,399 about that. Now. We like to talk about all the 13 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:43,920 cool stuff, you know, the guns and the optics and 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,719 the AMMO and the holsters, and then we talk about 15 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:50,840 the sexy stuff, you know, the shooting techniques and self 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,000 defense and all that and a lot of does we 17 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:55,719 forget that what you can really do to help The 18 00:00:55,759 --> 00:01:00,000 secon Amendment sometimes seems mundane, but it actually has incredible 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,759 effective if you just won't get off your rear and 20 00:01:02,759 --> 00:01:05,120 do it. We're joining right now by Sean Maloney and 21 00:01:05,159 --> 00:01:07,480 Sean I appreciate you being there. You're a defense attorney 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,079 or a farm's instructor. You teach what to do if 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,319 you get into a shooting. And you've got a great website, 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,680 but you just wrote something I want to get into. 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,840 It's the idea of one of the more effective things 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,920 that we can do as Second Amendment activist. You wan't 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:22,519 take it from there. 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, And it's so simple. 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if how many of your listeners know, 30 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:32,760 but we have a thing called the Administrator Administrative Procedure Act. 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,599 Whenever the ATF or somebody puts a rule out there, 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,799 they open it up for public comments. And I think 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,359 too many gun will say, well, the ATF does whatever 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,719 they want, Why why bother or wasting my time with 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,680 a public comment? 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,159 Speaker 4: Or hey we got Trump? 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,719 Speaker 5: You know that comfort Zoner to see this attitude is 38 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:55,560 exactly how we end up using losing the threat is 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,680 when they put things out for public comment. By the 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,359 minute Straight Procedure Act, they actually look at these and 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,599 their tasks of categorizing ancient comment and numbers matter. 42 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:09,719 Speaker 4: If we if we're. 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: Being outdone by the anti gun groups, then they're gonna win. 44 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:17,159 And actually that happened out too long long ago. On 45 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,520 July sixth, just a few days ago, the ATF tried 46 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,039 to fast track the rule to cut red tape. It 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,719 was the easy check system for dealers to verify that 48 00:02:26,759 --> 00:02:27,520 their current. 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,479 Speaker 4: FFL leaders and an even you and I can use 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:30,120 it right, you. 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 5: Know, it's promer And the anti gunners got out the 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,759 Brady bunch uh and everybody else, and they out commented us, 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,919 and the. 54 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:41,479 Speaker 4: ATF let it, took it away and let it die. 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: So they put out this proposal and they opened up 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,919 to public comment, which they have to do and then 57 00:02:47,039 --> 00:02:49,479 they are actually required to read every one of them 58 00:02:49,479 --> 00:02:51,639 when they come in and so it really is important. 59 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:54,879 And the other side mobilized their forces. We sat in 60 00:02:54,879 --> 00:02:57,879 our rears and we just lost this thing that would 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,080 have helped gun stores and gun owners. 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 4: That's right when we when we got. 63 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 5: A uh sicat in there, Uh with the ATF, What 64 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,800 a victory that was. But then they learned how to 65 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,879 put a leash on us. That was a big win 66 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,319 for us when Trump appointed him. But it's not the 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,599 final victory. The victory is with everything. 68 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 6: He put out. 69 00:03:18,439 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: We still have to support those. 70 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 5: We have to get online and we have to put 71 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:23,000 comments on there. 72 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 73 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:26,439 Speaker 5: And and like you said, the ATF is tasked with 74 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:29,199 reading each comment. Now I have to put a warning out. 75 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,280 If everybody's cutting, cutting, and tasting the same one, well 76 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,919 they'll lump they'll lump all those into one comment. 77 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,159 Speaker 3: So you need your own comment. But it's not that hard, 78 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:39,520 is it. 79 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: No? No, not at all. 80 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: Uh. We want to, you know, introduce yourself, Miami, Shan maloney, 81 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:49,599 I'm a concealed carrying instructor and this is how it 82 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:52,080 affects me, something as simple as that. Or I'm a hunter, 83 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:53,680 I'm a competitive shooter. 84 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 7: Uh. 85 00:03:54,759 --> 00:03:59,199 Speaker 5: Or I'm just a Second Amendment advocate. So it's really easy. 86 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:03,240 Put it in your own words and make a statement, 87 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,159 and your words count. 88 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: You know, we have tens of millions of gun owners. 89 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Say if you okay, if you boil the down staid, 90 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,560 all right, we have a million really active people. As 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,040 for ours, the war secon amendment, if you got ten 92 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:21,680 percent of those, so you got even if you got 93 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,439 ten thousand, I think ten thousand would have a huge impact, 94 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:24,959 wouldn't it. 95 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: Well it does. 96 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:29,879 Speaker 5: And if you remember the arm brace, Uh, the arm 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,240 Brace was a huge victory for us in the comments. 98 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:35,600 So we haven't estimated somewhere between eighty and one hundred 99 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,480 million gun owners in America depend upon who's sat you 100 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:39,040 look at. 101 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:39,439 Speaker 3: Do you know? 102 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,879 Speaker 5: Want to know how many comments turned the tide on 103 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,839 the arm brace? Two hundred and thirty seven thousand comments 104 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,199 from pro gun people out of the eighty million. 105 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:49,439 Speaker 4: Wow, that's all it took. 106 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: How long does it take just spitball it here to 107 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:56,519 go online? Because you can do this online. 108 00:04:56,199 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 5: Right right, It's actually set up for us to go 109 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:02,800 online and easily let. 110 00:05:02,759 --> 00:05:03,639 Speaker 4: Drop our comments. 111 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,519 Speaker 3: How long does that take? 112 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: You know, what if you were to have it written 113 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,519 down or you know in your mind what you want 114 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,120 to say, it's going to take two or three minutes. 115 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: Okay, call it five minutes on the outside five minutes. 116 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:17,839 I mean, people spend five minutes posting shall not be infringed, 117 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:20,560 you know, to no avail because it doesn't do any 118 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,560 good on all these social media sites. But you could 119 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,160 take that same five minutes and do this whenever there's 120 00:05:26,199 --> 00:05:29,040 a comment period on one of these proposals and actually 121 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:30,879 do some good. This is the thing you can do. 122 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,680 It's really effective as opposed to just calling attention to 123 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,639 yourself online. 124 00:05:35,959 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 5: Tom, You're so right, if you think about it, we 125 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,800 all make fun of the keyboard commandos, right right, Well, 126 00:05:41,199 --> 00:05:43,480 this is a time where the keyboard commandos can really 127 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:45,279 make a difference for our rights. 128 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: Excellent point. You know you want to be a keyboard 129 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,839 commando that actually does some good as opposed to just 130 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,519 turning up the heat. This is a way to do it. 131 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,800 So all right, here's the question then, Sean, how do 132 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:02,000 people know when there's a proposal, when there's a comment period? 133 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:06,399 Speaker 5: Well, and that you can spend your time getting online 134 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:07,399 and looking for them. 135 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,879 Speaker 4: And that's part of what I wanted to let everybody know. 136 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:13,639 Speaker 5: I'm kind of calling out every national two A group, 137 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,519 state coalitions, local advocates, whether it's gone through America, the Terrator, 138 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:21,360 the second Men, the foundation, make sure you get the 139 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,759 news out there, get the word out there that we 140 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,360 need to comment. And they do a pretty decent job, 141 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,360 but not enough. We're either not paying attention to it 142 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,680 or we didn't know what kind of impact that we 143 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,680 can potentially have. 144 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:35,519 Speaker 4: And the impact is huge. It's the difference between winning 145 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:36,000 and losing. 146 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've been very effective. I should tell people 147 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,519 that you're very involved. Legislative director lobbyist with the Buckeye 148 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,560 Fiarms Association the Ohio State Group, which is an incredibly 149 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,160 effective and smart group. But you know, state groups doesn't 150 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,879 have to be a national group. State groups can do 151 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,639 this to alert their folks to say, hey, there's something 152 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,959 going on here you need to get aware of and 153 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,000 jump on this. 154 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: You know, you're absolutely right. 155 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 5: Belong to the Butler County Rifle and Pistol Club and 156 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,959 every other week we have one hundred and ten people 157 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:07,079 at a meeting, So I always try to stand up 158 00:07:07,079 --> 00:07:09,639 and let everybody know what's going on. So your local 159 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,600 gun range, your local gun shops, wherever you can spread 160 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,399 the word, do it because it only benefits us. And 161 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:21,120 as we've learned, it's a difference between pro gun legislation 162 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:24,360 passing or administration X passing or failing. 163 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: It's kind of weird in a way, but to see 164 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,720 the evolution of Twitter to X. But I do believe 165 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,439 now that X has become a central clearing house of 166 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,839 information on two aid matters. If you get on there 167 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:42,040 and you want to follow SAF and Fire's POSSE Coalition 168 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:45,079 and Gun Owners of America and NRA, you will hear 169 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:47,720 about these things. And it's a real it's like a 170 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,839 dedicated news feed that you can just check every day 171 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,560 or two and find out what's going on. 172 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:54,079 Speaker 4: X is the leader. 173 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,079 Speaker 5: When Elon must took it over and opened up free speech, 174 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,839 that is the leader right now. 175 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: And so that's a great place to do it. And 176 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:03,040 if you think about. 177 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:06,199 Speaker 5: It, the ATA came about in nineteen forty six, shortly 178 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,839 after World War Two. Everybody got back from the war, 179 00:08:08,839 --> 00:08:11,319 and then he had a bunch of bureaucrats trying to 180 00:08:11,319 --> 00:08:15,879 acting like kings and changing laws and writing administrative laws. 181 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,199 And Congress said, hey, you know what, we got to 182 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,959 do something about that. So they legally mandated that we 183 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:24,560 got to hear from the citizens and let them make 184 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:27,240 sure that they'll wear what's going on, and let's see 185 00:08:27,279 --> 00:08:27,920 what they think. 186 00:08:28,199 --> 00:08:29,959 Speaker 4: So it was a great tool that they gave us. 187 00:08:29,959 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 5: Now, I doubt they ever imagined that act would be 188 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,399 out there, but certainly they set us up for it. 189 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: We're talking with Sean Malone. He is a defense attorney. 190 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,279 Most of your work and your legal work and everything 191 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,120 is a self defense and firearms. 192 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:43,799 Speaker 4: That's correct. 193 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 5: Probably for the last twenty twenty five years of my 194 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,039 legal career, I've done nothing but defend the good guy 195 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,120 and the good girl of a gun. 196 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: We're in an interesting place where and you mentioned it earlier, 197 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,480 this complacency. We say, well, we got Trump and we're 198 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:00,440 winning and we're doing stuff, and there's a tendon see 199 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,080 to kind of relax. But what we really need to 200 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,159 do is just put the pedal to the medal and 201 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,320 accelerate and go full bore while we can. 202 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely while we can, because we all know how 203 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:13,559 quickly things can change. All it takes is at one election, 204 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,639 and that's why elections matter so much. It mattered your 205 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Supreme Court and matted to Cicada, who we have right 206 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,600 now leaving the ATF finally the way it needs to 207 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:26,080 be led. And so at this opportunity that we have 208 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,879 in front of us, we have to take every advantage. 209 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,600 We have to bury things so far and get things 210 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,639 so tightened up for pro gun in America. 211 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: That it's almost impossible for them to make changes in 212 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:38,399 for our years. 213 00:09:38,799 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: Bottom line on this is that the comment period for 214 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,919 ATF they have They just announced like thirty two rules 215 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:51,080 that they're going to change or undo or or unravel, 216 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,559 which is a very good thing, but they have to 217 00:09:53,879 --> 00:09:56,720 have these comment periods on them. We need to get 218 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,799 involved to find out what's going on each one of us, 219 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,480 not just we hate the idea where they said, well, 220 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:03,919 you know, don't we have groups to do that. Don't 221 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,159 we have the n er right, don't we have stagram 222 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:07,840 moom Foundation. No, no, no, no, there's no them. There's 223 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,279 only us. There's only I and we and me and you, 224 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,960 And that's the only people that actually get anything done. 225 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: And these organizations are built of who us. No, we 226 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:18,919 can't take. 227 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 5: Let somebody else take the road for us. We have 228 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,559 to travel that road. And we have to do everything 229 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,799 we possibly can, every minute of the day to protect 230 00:10:27,799 --> 00:10:29,879 our rights. You know, and I've said over and over 231 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,000 gun control isn't taking our guns. It's one more fee, 232 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:37,200 it's one more day, it's one more inconvenience. Like when 233 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,360 they defeated this last piece of legislation, it made it 234 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,559 more difficult, and that would approve that someone has a 235 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,639 bell a FFL if you want to do a transfer. 236 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,080 The easy check was so simple and so common sense. 237 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:52,120 But again they just made something a little bit more difficult, 238 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,279 and so that makes them happy. 239 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: We sifinitely have to be motivated, each one of us 240 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,919 to do something every single day, say yeah, today I'm 241 00:10:57,919 --> 00:11:01,879 going to spend ten minutes for the Second Amendment. Doesn't 242 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:05,759 mean posting stuff online. It's just doing something that actually 243 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:08,879 makes a difference and whatever that is. But this is 244 00:11:08,919 --> 00:11:10,799 one thing you can do, Sean Maloney. I want to 245 00:11:10,799 --> 00:11:12,759 thank you. I want to send people to your website, 246 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:16,080 Second call deefense dot org. You've got a ton of 247 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,919 information there on self defense training, but specifically a lot 248 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,519 of it's about what to do in the aftermath and 249 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:24,879 how to keep yourself out of trouble in that second 250 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:25,879 fight you're going to be in. 251 00:11:26,279 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 5: That's exactly why I've spent a large part of my 252 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,799 life making sure that when US law abiding citizens are 253 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,480 forced to US leaper force and self defense, the fight 254 00:11:36,639 --> 00:11:39,200 just begins. 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That's gun 290 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,000 talk dot Com slash win. 291 00:13:57,799 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: Ruger didn't just update the AR, rebuilt it from the 292 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,679 ground up. The Harrier is the modern sporting rifle reimagined 293 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,399 for the serious shooter. Millspec Fords seventy seventy five receivers 294 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,759 and I tried to bold Carrier group with staked gas key, amlockhandguard, 295 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:16,320 with full length accessory rail, access threaded barrel, ready for 296 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,399 whatever you add to it. This isn't an iteration, It's 297 00:14:19,399 --> 00:14:24,320 an evolution decades of Ruger engineering discipline poured into the platform. 298 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,039 You love the Ruger Harrier. 299 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 10: Hell, yes, we're gonna take your AR fifteen, your AK 300 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:38,639 forty seven. 301 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,399 Speaker 3: Oh god, don't you love it? Beto Rourke tell us 302 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:51,919 he's going to take away our AK forty seven, our 303 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:55,360 AR fifty. No, the Supreme Court is going to rule 304 00:14:55,399 --> 00:14:59,200 that that is unconstitutional. You can't do that in all 305 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,519 these states that I have bands on semi automatic rifles. Yeah, No, 306 00:15:03,639 --> 00:15:06,279 that's going to go down. Is that's going to go down? Hey, 307 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,759 you can join us here. Give me a call that 308 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,440 Tom Talk Gun Anything on your mind, as long as 309 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,360 it's about guns, rifles, pistol, shotguns, self defense, hunting doesn't matter, 310 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,159 we'll talk about it. Give me a call. Mike did that. 311 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:19,799 He's on line one out of Winchester, Tennessee. Hey, Mike, 312 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,600 you're on gun Talk. What's up? Hey? Tom? 313 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 6: How are you? 314 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:24,279 Speaker 4: I am? 315 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:24,639 Speaker 3: Great? 316 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,679 Speaker 6: Awesome? Hey, listen, you're talking about a couple of different things. 317 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:32,720 They are fifteen obviously, but you know quickly when you 318 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:35,279 talk about how you're getting ready for hunting season and all. 319 00:15:35,639 --> 00:15:37,919 So we sued to go out and shoot with my dad, 320 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 and the first thing he'd do it missed the target 321 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,759 by like six inches, and I'd say you completely missed, 322 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:45,919 and he'd smile and he said, yeah, I got that 323 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,559 out of my system, now, didn't I. 324 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,759 Speaker 3: Huh, Well, okay, that's one way to go, I never 325 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:54,720 thought of that exactly. 326 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:57,879 Speaker 6: So anyway, hey, listen till when they are fifteen, because 327 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:00,720 you know, I've always heard people say that you don't 328 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:03,480 use an Air fifteen for self defense. I carried an 329 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,000 Air fifteen for twenty years in my patrol car. And 330 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:10,200 that was not only for my self defense, it was 331 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,440 for everyone self defense in the county I worked in. 332 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:18,879 And those they understand me, and they say all the time, well, 333 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,200 nobody shot an intruder with an AR fifteen, but how 334 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,600 many people have them just in case that happens. 335 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: Well, and of course the flip side of that is, yes, 336 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,159 several people, a lot of people have actually shot intruders 337 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,559 with AR Fifteen's the fact that you don't know about 338 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:35,879 it doesn't mean it didn't happen. 339 00:16:35,919 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 6: It just means you don't know about it, exactly exactly correct. 340 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,879 And so I just they make these stupid arguments, and 341 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,639 you know, you just had a little clip on there 342 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:48,039 about Beto O'Rourke and that idiot. But they do want 343 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:50,279 to come and take our guns. When they say, oh, 344 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,519 this isn't about confiscation, it's the first step. 345 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: Hey, let me ask you, Mike, you patrol all those 346 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,799 years and you obviously had your side, you had your pistol, 347 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,480 and I know you you're a good shot. So people 348 00:17:05,519 --> 00:17:07,480 will say, well, if you got a pistol, why in 349 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:09,319 the world do you need in They are fifteen, So 350 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,599 what would you tell them? 351 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 6: Well, for example, a lot of calls that I've been on, 352 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,839 you can't sit in a patrol car or be outside 353 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,960 of a pisole car. I'll give you an example. Somebody 354 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,799 who was up robing a gold mine, okay up in 355 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:29,440 northern California where I worked, and it's a hot call, right, 356 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,519 and you go up there and the first person unseen 357 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:39,559 says the person has firearms and they are in the 358 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,519 mine where the offices are, and the call was they're 359 00:17:43,519 --> 00:17:46,640 going to be breaking in, and they have a rifle. 360 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:49,000 They have a thirty on six like a lot of 361 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,759 people that hunt, right, Sure, are you going to try 362 00:17:51,799 --> 00:17:54,799 to engage somebody at one hundred yards with a forty 363 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:55,559 caliber clock? 364 00:17:55,759 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm not, no, no, no, And yet yeah, part of 365 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,759 it is they look a rifle always hits harder than 366 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:08,119 a handgun does. Hend guys are actually a lousy at 367 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,640 stopping people. And the only reason we carry him is 368 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:16,200 because they're easy to carry not because they're particularly effective, exactly. 369 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 6: Exactly, and the whole well, the thing is people that 370 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,799 are uninformed about it, you know, like the politicians saying, 371 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:25,559 oh and ever fifteen shoots a thousand rounds a second. 372 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:30,480 It's all talk and it's alved, you know, just to 373 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:34,480 try to be I don't know, accentuate the you know, 374 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:37,720 the the uh, what's the term I'm looking forward to 375 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:38,759 me more. 376 00:18:39,839 --> 00:18:43,079 Speaker 3: They want to want to scare people. They want scare 377 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,559 people with it. That's really what it is. 378 00:18:44,599 --> 00:18:47,839 Speaker 6: And there's people that will go, oh, that's terrible. Nobody 379 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,960 needs those. Well, yes, that's not right. Some people do, 380 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,039 you know. And the largement were good. 381 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:57,599 Speaker 3: I thought it was gathering some recently who just said 382 00:18:57,759 --> 00:19:00,160 something about a f fifteens that shoots sixty round As 383 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,200 a second, I'm going, what what you know what? 384 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,599 Speaker 6: You and I would both like to have one of 385 00:19:06,599 --> 00:19:07,880 those that. 386 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:09,799 Speaker 3: Would be a mini gun. And I am all in 387 00:19:09,839 --> 00:19:11,640 favor of us being able to own a mini gun. 388 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:13,799 I'm except for the feeding part. You know, then you 389 00:19:13,839 --> 00:19:15,440 got to buy an off lot of AMMO. But boy, 390 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,599 it sure would be free. 391 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 6: But you know what, you're right, the last person you 392 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,240 had on I didn't catch his name, but he was right. 393 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:25,519 The battle is not done. Even if the Sucreme Court 394 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:28,279 says you can't dan aar fifteen's, they're going to find 395 00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:34,480 some other stuff because that idiot Tallerrico down in Texas said, well, 396 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,680 well regulated militia means we get to regulate it, and 397 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,200 that's not what the what the concept was. The concept 398 00:19:43,279 --> 00:19:45,359 was a well organized militia. 399 00:19:46,079 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: Yes, regulated at the time meant that they're in good 400 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,599 working order. It's really all I meant exactly. 401 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,559 Speaker 6: But they want to sit there though, twist words and 402 00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:58,119 everything they can get to try to convince you know, 403 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,759 the fools that you know, we're trying to protect the 404 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:03,880 public by taking guns away from law binding citizens. Well 405 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:07,640 that's not going to work because at some point in 406 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,160 time it's going to come to a head where the 407 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,119 you know, the god fearing people and the good gun 408 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,759 gun ons are going to say, no, we're not taking 409 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:16,200 my gun. 410 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: Well we're there, army. Look, we're going to win this 411 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:22,079 Supreme Court case. They've already said they're going to talk 412 00:20:22,079 --> 00:20:24,759 the case, they're going to argue it in December. They're 413 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:27,759 going to get an opinion in June. So within the 414 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:30,240 next twelve months, we're going to get an opinion out 415 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,000 of the Supreme Court that tells all the other courts 416 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:36,039 that you cannot ban and all the other states you 417 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:39,279 cannot ban AR fifteen, you cannot ban semi automatic rifles. 418 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:42,960 All those state bans the California has, and New Jersey has, 419 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,440 and and all the other states that have them, they're 420 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,720 simply going to go away. So we're already at that point. 421 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:51,319 Now we've got to focus on the next issue. Hey, Mike, 422 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,680 I got a scoot. I appreciate your call, sir, and 423 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,960 I appreciate you listening. Hey, I number here is eight 424 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:57,759 sixty six Talk Gun. If you want to join me 425 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,200 that absolutely we can talk about politics, but we could 426 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,640 also talk about do you to kind of piggyback on 427 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,559 a MIC's call. Do you in fact on an AR 428 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:14,759 fifteen for self defense? If so, why, And let's go 429 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:17,559 a little bit further. Where do you keep it? Is 430 00:21:17,559 --> 00:21:20,599 that your home defense gun? Do you keep it in 431 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,319 a vehicle? Ever? And how did you arrive at an 432 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:29,920 AR fifteen as your self defense firearm? Oh, and the 433 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,799 other part. And I'm really curious about this because I'm 434 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:40,680 this is evolving sighting systems. Iron sights, low power variable scopes, 435 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:47,480 red dot type optics. Which way did you go on yours? 436 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:52,559 I have become a real fan of red dots, And 437 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,240 at the same time, though, on my home defense firearm 438 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,160 a AR, I have a low power like a one 439 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:07,599 to six variable scope that has illuminated radical so on 440 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:11,680 one pour it works essentially like a red dot, but 441 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,079 that it does give me the option, and I know 442 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,359 it's probably a very low probability of leaving it the 443 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:22,240 option of increasing the magnification if I needed to make 444 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,039 a long shot. Do I need that right around my home? 445 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,559 Probably not? Do I need it where I live? Hey, 446 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:29,400 I live in the mountains of IDAHM. No telling what 447 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,759 you gotta run too or where it's gonna be. So, 448 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,000 like Mike says, you could be up against somebody with 449 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:40,599 a rifle, just thinking, do you have an AR fifteen, 450 00:22:42,079 --> 00:22:45,359 What do you have it for? What do you use 451 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,200 it for? I'm not saying you need to have a 452 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,400 particular use for it. I'm just curious. Is it primarily 453 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,680 target shooting? Do you shoot competition with it? Do you 454 00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:56,680 hunt with it? Do you just go to the ranging 455 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,599 plane can have fun with it? Do you have it 456 00:22:58,599 --> 00:23:00,160 as a home defense gun. Do you have it as 457 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:06,000 a truck done? Just cidious. I got my first ars, 458 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,039 the first two I bought in nineteen ninety four when 459 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,799 the Bill Clinton administration passed the gun band, the Clinton 460 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:21,680 gun Band, also known as the Assault Weapon Band. And 461 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:23,680 when I saw that was going to pass, I said, okay, 462 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:27,200 I don't have an R. I don't know much about them. 463 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:30,839 Most people didn't at the time. And I said, but 464 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,559 you know, if they tell me I can't have, I'm 465 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:35,200 gonna go buy it. So it's interesting. I got a 466 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,720 Colt h bar and I got an Olympic Arms car, 467 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:43,200 a little short carbing version. Still have both of them 468 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,759 now that I think about it. I got a bunch 469 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:52,799 more since then, like a bunch, And yet I've never 470 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:57,519 been in love with the AR. I view the AR 471 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:04,400 platform as a very effective tool. It does a number 472 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,000 of things very well and obviously very versatile, and you 473 00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:12,200 can customize it and swap parts out, upperst lowers, you barrels, 474 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:15,160 all sorts of furniture, on and on and on. You 475 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,079 just do whatever you want to do with and will. 476 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:20,759 You can use it for hunting, you can use it 477 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:25,519 for personal protection, for plinking, for competition, for the national matches, 478 00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:32,160 and I just can't develop a warm feeling about the 479 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,319 AR Now. Look, I got a dozen of them, so 480 00:24:35,559 --> 00:24:37,480 don't get me wrong here. I mean, I really do, 481 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,640 and I use it for a lot of different things, 482 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:47,000 but to me, it is a tool. It's very utilitarian. 483 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,480 There are other guns I have that I like them 484 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:53,920 because I like the looks of them, and it's a 485 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,839 lot of it's about looks. And I realized that a 486 00:24:56,839 --> 00:24:58,359 lot of people say, I don't care what it looks like. 487 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,079 I just want to work cool. And that's why there 488 00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:04,119 are so many plastic pistols out there that people really like, 489 00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:09,000 because they are really good tools. And it's probably why 490 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:11,519 so few people are at least a lot fewer people 491 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:17,799 are really into nice looking guns bolt ax and rifles 492 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:22,559 with woodstocks, nice over and unders, nineteen eleven's of all sorts. 493 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,920 It's aesthetics, and there's no accounting for aesthetics. I mean, 494 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,039 it's personal preference. It's what do you like, what do 495 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:36,000 you not like? Sometimes I think, however, it may be 496 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,759 what you've been exposed to or not. If you've never 497 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:46,920 shot a really nice rifle, pistol, shot gun, whatever, never 498 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,480 been exposed to the really pretty wins. Maybe you don't know, 499 00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,200 don't care, or maybe you just say, hey, you know, 500 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,480 I can't afford them and I don't want them. Okay, cool, 501 00:25:54,759 --> 00:25:56,200 But you know you don't have to pay a lot 502 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,920 to get a good looking gun. There are some lessers 503 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,559 events of nineteen eleven, so that probably don't cost much more, 504 00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:06,519 if any of them more than a good Palmer stycerfighted pistol. 505 00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:13,000 I guess the question is what do you have your 506 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,279 AR four? I know a lot of you own them. 507 00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:19,200 Why'd you buy it in the first place? And how 508 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,160 much do you shoot it now? Or does it mostly 509 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,319 just live in the safe? Our number is eight sixty 510 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,200 six Talk Gun. Maurice called in out of Lake Charles, Louisiana. 511 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:30,119 Hey Maurice, you're on gun Talk. What's on your mind today? 512 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 11: Well, first off, for I get well, we want to 513 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,119 talk about the only pistol made in nineteen eleven, so 514 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,960 we can just stop the conversation right there. Okay, all right, yeah, 515 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,200 we did no argument there. I tried all the other 516 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000 ones about my nineteen eleventh So that's my baby, and 517 00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:49,079 I tell you the truth is in self defense situations, 518 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,880 I'll pick it up over anything, but what I wanted 519 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,400 to talk about. I used to hunt with a four 520 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,160 p forty four Marland and let a friend talk me 521 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,480 out of it that Marlon quldn't make it, and where 522 00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,240 I hunt, I don't. I don't need a three hundred 523 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,920 yard gun. So I've been wanting to go back to 524 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,400 a big boar. And I know Rossi has started advertising 525 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,599 that they're making it at a four forty four lever, 526 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,599 but everything I'm looking at and big board levers primarily 527 00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:21,559 are forty five seventies, right and that, And I know 528 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,240 that old mortar round with a black powder round, And 529 00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:27,880 I'm just wondering with the new guns, are they designed 530 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,759 to shoot the old ammunition or are they designed to 531 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,319 shoot this new hot stuff that everybody keeps touting. Uh? 532 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,279 And how do you know the difference, because they really 533 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:39,519 don't say too much about it, except except sometimes they'll 534 00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:41,720 say it in the older guns don't shoot this, you know, 535 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:46,039 don't don't shoot modern ammunition. But so what do you tell. 536 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: Anything is being made now you can shoot modern ammo 537 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,720 in it. I mean, the new Marlins are fabulous, love 538 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:54,039 those guns, and you know all of that. But let 539 00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:58,279 me let me go back to the four Marlin is 540 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,319 in longer range, more powerful cartridge than the forty five seventy. 541 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,319 Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, absolutely, just the forty five Magnum magnum, I 542 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:12,200 mean forty four Mague magnum. You know, I don't understand 543 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,240 why they're not making not making that anymore because at 544 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,440 forty five seventy is not a superior round. It's just 545 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,000 a mortar. 546 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,279 Speaker 3: But you can get really good AMMO for forty five seventy. 547 00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:28,720 Now you get the Hornity Lever Revolution pwinty bullets, and 548 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:31,599 so you're gonna, you know, increase your range a bit 549 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,359 with those. And the other part of it is e race. 550 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,119 You understand this. People just like it because it's cool. 551 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,440 I mean, it's what you know, General Custer used and 552 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,799 his man and it's it's been the official US Army cartridge. 553 00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:44,240 Were you back? 554 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,599 Speaker 11: Yeah, well I had when I had my four forty four, 555 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,799 I dropped deer straight on at two hundred and twenty 556 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,039 yards twice, and I loaded bone rounds. I didn't use 557 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:57,880 that two hundred and sixty green bullet. They used the 558 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,599 two forty and loaded them. Man, I shall two inches 559 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,039 high of one hundred, and that gave me a good 560 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,880 two hundred yard shot, and that was that was in 561 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,680 a clearing lane in the woods, which would rarely get 562 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,079 me a two hundred yard shot otherwise. So you know, 563 00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:15,799 as far as you know, do you know anybody else 564 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,920 is making a four forty four other than Rassy? 565 00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:22,119 Speaker 3: I do not, and ROSSI is probably pretty good. I 566 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,279 will tell you that when I went to a media 567 00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:27,960 event when Quarty brought out the Level Revolution AMMO, we 568 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,359 had a four forty four at the range and we 569 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,839 put milk jugs out and with that Ammo with four 570 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,160 forty four, we were hitting milk jugs at three hundred 571 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,359 yards without any problem at all. So that's that tells 572 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,440 you what that thing will do. 573 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, and I just don't understand. I guess like you said, 574 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,960 the reader has been in public, has been fed for 575 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,519 forty five seventy for so long that they take that 576 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,279 feeling thing out there. But you know, I keep reading 577 00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,359 the good magazine of for then I want good Lord, 578 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,640 you know, I don't know mortar tackets that Well. 579 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,599 Speaker 3: It's clear to me you want that, ROSSI. I think 580 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,480 you ought to buy it so you can shoot it 581 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,759 and then call us back and tell us all about it. 582 00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 11: Okay, Well, I think that's what I might do. 583 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: Good. My work here is done. Thank you for the call. 584 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,599 I appreciate that. Yeah, the forty five seventy is are 585 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:23,559 great cartridge. I do like it. And it's it's an 586 00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:27,079 honest to underdyard cartridge. Maybe a little further and yes, 587 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680 we have some better AMMO now than we used to have. 588 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,000 If you're shooting it in a tubular magazine, you can't 589 00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:40,200 use pointy bullets except the hornity lever Revolution AMMO you 590 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:45,839 can because it's a softer polymer tip, and when you 591 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880 stack cartridge one on top of the other, that soft 592 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,599 point pushes into the primer of the cartries in front 593 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,480 of it. It's not going to set it off. That's 594 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,240 why we don't use pointy bullets in tubular magazines, because 595 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,519 a pointed bullet could conceivably hit the primer of the 596 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:05,480 cartoones on top of it, probably during recoil, when those 597 00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,079 cartoons are bouncing back and forth and there's a spring 598 00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:10,160 in there and it's pushed them they're smacking each other, 599 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:12,880 you could get one to go off. So that's why 600 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,000 we use flat nose or around nose bullets in tubular magazine. 601 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:22,839 Lever actions but there's some really good forty five seventy 602 00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:27,079 AMMO out there. Some of it is loaded hot, I 603 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:32,519 mean like really hot and not unsafe, but pretty far 604 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,039 up there on the pressure levels, because the a lot 605 00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:38,799 of forty five to seven AMO you find is loaded 606 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,799 to low pressure. Because you can shoot them in really 607 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,279 really really old guns like trapdoor springfields. You can't. You 608 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,200 don't want to shoot that modern ammo and that stuff. 609 00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:55,559 I will tell you this from experience, A full house 610 00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,279 heavy load forty five to seventy and a fair early 611 00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:06,640 lightweight gun, whether it's Marlin or even lighter. These little 612 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,480 single shots that they're making. These are four and a 613 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:15,519 half five pound rifles. It will you'll see stars when 614 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:21,160 you touch it off. The recoil is seriously impressive. And 615 00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:26,240 I do like my Marlins. I have, I guess three 616 00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,799 of them now. One I've had a long time, way back, 617 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,759 way way way back, probably close to fifty years now. 618 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:39,400 Took that thing, put a weaver peep site on it, 619 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:42,720 unscrewed the little aperture out of the peep site and 620 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,359 threw it away. Come. I guess the early form of 621 00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:47,880 a ghost ring site still guts you three inches to 622 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,359 one hundred yards with it with that big old hole 623 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,359 in the back, but it made it a lot faster 624 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,720 and just fun gun to carry around. Well, you know, 625 00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:57,599 all lover actions are fun to carry around. I don't 626 00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,480 care what it is. You know what I don't half 627 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:02,880 and lever action. It's one of those. I keep thinking 628 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,160 I need one of those, but I've never broken down 629 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,440 and gotten one. Is the lever action in three fifty 630 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,519 seven magnum, because if you have that, you can see 631 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,200 thirty eight special in them, and thirty eight special is 632 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,480 a lot less recoil. And think about this. If it's 633 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920 a threaded barrel, you put a can on there and 634 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,799 thirty eight specialist subsonic. Now you have a really really 635 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,319 quiet setup. Got fun. And I've scrabbed mic online one 636 00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:33,640 out of Saint Croix Falls, Wisconsin. 637 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,039 Speaker 12: Hey Mike, Hey Tom, I was just calling to I 638 00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:42,039 had an idea related to the everybody providing feedback or 639 00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:45,519 the sert providing feedback during the roulemaking public comment periods, 640 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,279 and sure the need to have them be individualized so 641 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,400 that they don't get grouped into copy paste and be 642 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,960 considered one response. Okay, and that's I was using been 643 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,000 using AI and stuff for a lot of things recently, 644 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,599 and it kind of learns how you talk and how 645 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,079 you speak, and so you could input that information in 646 00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:09,280 there and then have it provide you a response and 647 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,159 it might save you some time of trying to think 648 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:12,199 of your own response. 649 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,159 Speaker 3: Interesting idea. I've not used AI a lot, used some 650 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,320 I know a lot of people use it daily and 651 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,960 get really good at it. There's a skill that you 652 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:24,880 kind of develop in learning how to use AI, well, 653 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,320 isn't it. 654 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,559 Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely kind of got a kind of the crap 655 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,320 in crap out thing, so you do got to give 656 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,239 it the right information. 657 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, And also you could find you and 658 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,079 you say, okay, now that's good, but now give it 659 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:38,880 to me this way, or give it to me that way, 660 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,519 or add in this stuff, and it keeps rewriting it 661 00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:46,320 for you. But not a bad idea. My concern I'm 662 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,920 just throwing this out here is I don't know about 663 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,800 the aimodels if they would end up, If like a 664 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,760 hundred of us ask for that, would we all get 665 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,440 something pretty similar out of the AI model. 666 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 12: And that could be a possibility, But I don't know, 667 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,880 as long as it wasn't like exactly the same. I 668 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,079 guess I don't know how close right to consider it the. 669 00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: Same correct, I don't know either. The other part of 670 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,159 it is it doesn't have to be polished. You can 671 00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:16,199 just say, hey, this is who I am, where I am, Uh, 672 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960 this is what I do. I own guns and I 673 00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,400 shoot guns. I have them for self defense, and this 674 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,840 is how this proposal would affect me. Probably no more 675 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,639 than fifty words. And you're there, and you're in and 676 00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:27,440 you're out. 677 00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, that's true. To just get it on there 678 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,519 and get it done then move on. 679 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: You know what. It's not important that it's perfect, it's 680 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,519 just important that it gets done. 681 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,159 Speaker 7: Sure. 682 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well here's what why Because each of our responses 683 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,559 on these you know, proposals they put out when they've 684 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:54,440 got a comment period, they're not actually reading them. I 685 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,599 mean they read them to see what we're saying. But 686 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,280 actually what they do is they read them and go, Okay, 687 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,679 that's a vote this way, or that's a vote that way. 688 00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:05,079 It's basically your casting a vote, and so whether it's 689 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,039 perfect or not really as immaterial. It's just the main 690 00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:10,719 thing is that that you cast the vote. And then 691 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,400 they're going to add those up and say, oh, look, 692 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,719 the gun people outweigh the anti gun people by four 693 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,719 to one, So we're okay on that, and that's how 694 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,360 it's going to work. 695 00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:21,519 Speaker 12: Sure, yeah, I number thought of it from that perspective, 696 00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:22,920 but that makes a lot of sense. 697 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: There you go, my good thoughts. I appreciate that AI. 698 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,519 I'm starting to learn about it, and do appreciate the call. 699 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,119 I hate it and I like it at the same time. 700 00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:37,800 I understand what it can do, but I also understand 701 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,599 how it can screw things up. As a writer, I 702 00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:46,280 am blown away at how good AI can be at 703 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,719 crafting stories or articles. Honestly, I think it probably somewhere 704 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,039 in the neighborhood of ninety percent of what you're reading 705 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,320 online in the way of articles is written by AI, 706 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,880 some report with air quotes around it, or writer. And 707 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,719 this is true on the gun side as well. They 708 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,079 take AI, they say, write me a twelve hundred word 709 00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,599 article about the forty five to seventy and include these 710 00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:17,679 parts of it, and look on the internet and see 711 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,039 what others have said, and incorporate some of the key 712 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:25,320 parts of other articles. And in twenty seconds the article 713 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,880 is written and they push the published button and it 714 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,679 has appeared. On your feed in some kind of a 715 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,960 gun issue or gun writes issue, or if it's a 716 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,119 Second Amendment thing. Sometimes it's accurate too, not always. I've 717 00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:45,239 used it for a few things, but I'm really careful 718 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,599 to go back and read it and say, okay, is 719 00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:52,559 this true? It said this thing? Can I do in 720 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:58,719 a web search and verify that's true? AI makes up stuff, 721 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,920 I mean really does. It just makes up things that 722 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,719 are completely untrue. A bunch of lawyers now have gotten 723 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,519 into trouble with judges because are using AI to write 724 00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:17,880 their legal briefs, and we're finding out that AI makes 725 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:25,280 up references. It makes up sort of sites, citations to 726 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,079 cases that never have been, makes up cases out of 727 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,199 thin air, and puts it into this lawyer's brief. Then 728 00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:34,079 it goes before the judge, and judge looks at it 729 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,000 and goes, there is no such case like that. Your 730 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:37,880 reference to a case that does not exist. What are 731 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,639 you doing? And so some of these lawyers have been 732 00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:45,920 sanctioned by the courts for using AI. I only mentioned 733 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,159 that to say, if you're going to use it, go 734 00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:52,519 back and verify it. You know what, trust to verify 735 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,719 and make sure that what it's saying is accurate. It 736 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,400 can get you in trouble, but it could also just 737 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,960 make you look foolish when you're putting stuff out there. 738 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,639 It's not true. Having said all that, it's an amazing tool, 739 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,519 and we're not going to get away from it. We 740 00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,360 are in fact going to be using AI, but not here. 741 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:15,639 Give me a call. Eight sixty six talk gun, All right, 742 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:17,760 let's do this. Let's rab can. It just popped up 743 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,800 and we got time to get him in here online 744 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,679 one out of boys. Hey Ken, you're on Bye Tom. 745 00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:26,679 Speaker 7: You talk about getting ready for honey and season. I 746 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,599 lived in Alaska for seventeen years, did a lot of 747 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:32,840 big game. I mean, then always fly in, so you 748 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,159 have to have your gear back together because there was 749 00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:36,239 no no redo. 750 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 3: And I approached it. 751 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,159 Speaker 7: The same way I approached aviation. I have an aviation background, 752 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,079 so I then I pre flighted all my gear. You know, 753 00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,960 do the stove work, does the lantern work? Do I 754 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,079 have all the parts to the tent? And then I 755 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,880 had checklists to make I make sure I packed everything 756 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,239 that needed to go with me. 757 00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 3: Well, I love that, and of course, I mean that's 758 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,920 all critical, particularly when you're flying in there's no like 759 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:01,639 running over the store and pick it up a box 760 00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:03,679 ama that you didn't bring with you. But I was 761 00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:07,079 actually thinking more in terms of getting yourself ready for 762 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,679 shooting and being able to and you know, you've been 763 00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,599 out there and if you understand what I'm talking about, 764 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,159 there are people who when they see the deer or 765 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:18,280 the elk or the moose, it literally takes them thirty 766 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,960 seconds or more to get the gun off their shoulder, 767 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,079 to get around in the chamber, to find the animal 768 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:27,480 and the scope and try to find a steady rest. 769 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,039 And just like you're thinking, really, this animal is going 770 00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:31,960 to leave, you understand that you've got to be able 771 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,320 to make it happen faster than that. 772 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,599 Speaker 9: Yeah. 773 00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 7: Absolutely, well I'm part of that, you know, getting physically 774 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,960 in shape and doing little things like you know, if 775 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,000 you've got a variable scope, you set it out of 776 00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,280 the lowest power and leave it there until you know 777 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,400 you need to crank it up. 778 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I'll always have it on the lowest power. And 779 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,360 you know, and you can practice a lot of the 780 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,519 stuff in your house. Take your rifle and just practice 781 00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:54,599 getting it off your shoulder and then aiming at a 782 00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:57,559 safe target with a not loaded gun and getting on 783 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,360 target and pressing the trigger. Dry firing with your hunting 784 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,840 rifle is really good practice. 785 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, there you go. 786 00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:07,639 Speaker 3: Thank You can't appreciate that, and I appreciate the reference 787 00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,239 to the aviation yuck. It's a pre flight all the time. 788 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,559 I I was telling somebody about the safety things we do. 789 00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:17,400 I said, look, when I walk around my plane and 790 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,360 I preflight it, I will say out loud, all right 791 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,400 you soob I know you're going to try to kill 792 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,719 me today. I just don't know how. So I'm going 793 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,719 to check you very carefully every single time, no matter what. 794 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:33,000 It's part of that process. It's like when I put 795 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,280 the gun on. Okay, today is the day I'm going 796 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,079 to need this. Not might you know might happen today. 797 00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:43,440 It is going to happen today. Now I've already prepped 798 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,679 to my mind, I'm ready for whatever happens. If it 799 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:47,840 pops up, I'm just going to go ahead and react 800 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,440 to it because I knew it was coming anyway, I'm 801 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,599 already ready for it. That's part of the training thing. 802 00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:54,159 And we talk about this a lot, is you've got 803 00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:58,840 to go get training. Seriously. I can't imagine why you 804 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,880 wouldn't do this. Yeah, it takes time. Okay, Yeah, I 805 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,360 got it. It takes money, Yeah, I got it. You 806 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,800 have the time and you have the money. It's all 807 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,920 a matter of priorities because you're spending money on stuff 808 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,239 that you don't even remember you bought. You're spending money 809 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,400 on stuff that you don't it's stuck back in a 810 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,679 drawer somewhere. You're spending money and time. We are known 811 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,880 by what we spend our time and our money on, 812 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,639 not by what we say. I mean, who you are 813 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:35,119 and what you value. You exhibit that to people and 814 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,440 where you put your time and your money. And if 815 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,400 you say, yeah, I carry a gun and I'm gonna 816 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,559 protect people, I'm gonna protect my family, great, you're cool. 817 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,800 But the gun doesn't do that by itself. It's up 818 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,119 to you. And honestly, you don't know if you're any 819 00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:51,239 good at this. If you haven't taken real training, well, 820 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,840 I go to the rains all the time. Great, that 821 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,519 doesn't mean anything. If you're not putting yourself up against 822 00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,280 maybe competition, you can learn some things, but also just 823 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,039 getting training. That's my takeaway for you for this week. 824 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,960 I appreciate you joining me here. You know it's you 825 00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:08,480 that makes this possible. Go over and follow me on 826 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,119 X I Am at gun Talk Over there. We do 827 00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:13,480 this all week long over there. If you like what 828 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,599 we're doing here, you'll love what we're doing over on 829 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960 X again at gun Talk. Listen, go out and do 830 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,559 some shooting this week. Take some people with you. That's 831 00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,559 a great way to support the Second Amendment. Be safe, 832 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,800 watch your muscle. Absolutely know the four rules of gun safety. 833 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,800 Oh yeah, and while you're at it, must will buy 834 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,280 a new gun. Always a good week when you do that. 835 00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:41,719 Take care,