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Speaker 2: let it fly. Full draft recap today for Round one
Speaker 2: in the NBA, and I've got the secret weapon his
Speaker 2: name Cowboy Karen yeeha. Also Mike Jenetty chimes in today
Speaker 2: on how Cooper Flag could be a billionaire in no time,
Speaker 2: and some college football talk with the Bulldog coming up
Speaker 2: in this hour as well. I will never complain about
Speaker 2: the draft being split up into two nights ever again.
Speaker 1: You will not allow it. I will not allow it.
Speaker 2: I think if we would have seen Round two last night,
Speaker 2: the corner would have pronounced me dead at about twelve fifteen.
Speaker 1: It was too much.
Speaker 2: I was too tired, and I almost made it to
Speaker 2: the finish line unscathed. I did not fall asleep. I
Speaker 2: did not give in to the weight of my eyelids
Speaker 2: until pick thirty two the clippers were on or not
Speaker 2: thirty two thirty thinking about the NFL draft. Pick thirty
Speaker 2: the clippers were on the clock, and I checked out.
Speaker 1: But I almost made it all the way through.
Speaker 2: Had there been around two, honestly, I would have said,
Speaker 2: I'll catch up with it in the morning. So I'm
Speaker 2: glad because I do as much of a sicko as
Speaker 2: you have to be to watch the second round. I
Speaker 2: will be watching it, Tyler will be taking notes to it,
Speaker 2: just to give you an idea of the difference between
Speaker 2: us and many of you won't care because you're normal
Speaker 2: human beings. But I am glad that it's a separate event.
Speaker 2: So officially, off of that stance, I don't know why
Speaker 2: I was so worked up about the second round being
Speaker 2: on a different night.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you didn't give the proper respect to
Speaker 3: the final pick of the first round, Yanich Conan Niderhauser
Speaker 3: out of Penn State.
Speaker 1: Baby, yeah, you say it.
Speaker 2: I almost threw.
Speaker 3: Him in with our conversation with Tyler Metcalf from No
Speaker 3: Ceilings MDA, which we will play some clips on in
Speaker 3: this segment, because he had some pretty good insight, or
Speaker 3: at least a good prediction on who the Ortlanta Magic
Speaker 3: would be looking for at pick number twenty five. Almost
Speaker 3: mentioned him, Yeah, I mentioned it on the show yesterday
Speaker 3: the classication on listening to B BK will we talked
Speaker 3: to the question is it necessary to split this up
Speaker 3: into two days? That Browny James rule from last year
Speaker 3: where he needed his own spotlight, his own day when
Speaker 3: he got his name called or when he got drafted rather,
Speaker 3: and I said, I'm happy about it because I very
Speaker 3: much do care about the second round. I think that
Speaker 3: this can be there can be a lot of gems
Speaker 3: to come out of this second round with some names
Speaker 3: that are so left on the board that didn't hear
Speaker 3: their name called last night. And I didn't want to
Speaker 3: stay up till one am last night and beyond in
Speaker 3: order to hear all of those names, and it was
Speaker 3: on full display. The draft probably starts a little bit
Speaker 3: too late. They probably spend a little bit too much
Speaker 3: time on the first round. So I'm certainly in the
Speaker 3: camp that I am happy that it is a two
Speaker 3: day event now. And I guess in the past, and
Speaker 3: this was only two years ago, when they were doing
Speaker 3: it like this, they would start the draft a little
Speaker 3: bit earlier. If you're going to fit two rounds in,
Speaker 3: then you got to start before you get to eight o'clock.
Speaker 1: Maybe that was the case.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm fine with the way that
Speaker 2: it is and I will never complain about it again.
Speaker 2: Because I was very tired and Draft put me to sleep.
Speaker 2: I slept great last night. I think the draft for
Speaker 2: that and an IPA. No matter the season that we
Speaker 2: are in on the show, NFL Draft, NBA Draft, Fantasy
Speaker 2: Football Preparations, NCAA Tournament, whatever it is, I feel like
Speaker 2: we arm you with the most accurate and relevant information
Speaker 2: of many shows that are out there. Something that has
Speaker 2: become sort of a mission for this show is that
Speaker 2: if there is a big event out there that a
Speaker 2: lot of us are going to lock in on, you
Speaker 2: will be armed with as much accurate information as possible
Speaker 2: and you will sound smarter to the people that you
Speaker 2: are in a room with later that day. And that
Speaker 2: is partially because of the research that Tyler and I
Speaker 2: do and mostly thanks to the guests that we bring
Speaker 2: on that absolutely crush it in these areas. We have strengths,
Speaker 2: we have weaknesses. As a show, I am touting what
Speaker 2: I believe to be one of the strengths of this
Speaker 2: show is identifying who in the media covers the events
Speaker 2: that we care about his sports fans the best. And
Speaker 2: yesterday we had Tyler Metcalfan from No Ceilings NBA. They
Speaker 2: absolutely crush it when it comes to NBA draft coverage,
Speaker 2: and he nailed this pick for the Magic. If it's
Speaker 2: not Clayton, can you give the Magic fans that are
Speaker 2: listening a player that they should be doing backflips over
Speaker 2: if they're available at twenty five?
Speaker 1: I think Drake.
Speaker 4: Richardson makes a lot of sense. He is really small,
Speaker 4: but he's a former NBA pro Jason Richardson's son, a
Speaker 4: really high level shooter, really smart player, creative passer. He
Speaker 4: just kind of played a shooting guard role for Michigan
Speaker 4: State this year because that's what was asked of him,
Speaker 4: and he was the best shooter of the guards, so
Speaker 4: he kind of got relegated into that more shooting guard.
Speaker 4: But he is a lot more passing upside and playing
Speaker 4: off of Bronze and Polo and des in Vain. I
Speaker 4: think he'll give he would give the Magic a ton
Speaker 4: of spacing and versatility and just overall IQ at that
Speaker 4: kind of pseudo point guard spot where he's not necessarily
Speaker 4: having to create everything and run the offense, but he
Speaker 4: can play also in that off ball role.
Speaker 1: Rondo, applause, take a bow.
Speaker 2: My friend Tyler Metcalf absolutely nailed it, and I love
Speaker 2: the pick too. He was on the My guy list.
Speaker 2: A lot to like about Jace Richardson. This was my
Speaker 2: pre draft breakdown for Jace, son of Jason Richardson, also
Speaker 2: one of my guys when he was in the NBA.
Speaker 2: So he falls off the right tree for me. He's
Speaker 2: an exciting player. He's young, he's nineteen years old. Statistically
Speaker 2: he's actually a better three point shooter than Walter Clayton,
Speaker 2: who a lot of us wanted.
Speaker 1: But he is small. He's six to one.
Speaker 2: This is not a guy that you're going to be
Speaker 2: able to rely on defensively, and that road here. I
Speaker 2: think he's going to have to land on a team
Speaker 2: where he's insulated in that regard, but he can absolutely
Speaker 2: fill it up on offense and he can fill it
Speaker 2: up efficiently too. He's not just a volume Hount and
Speaker 2: the Magic are perfect fit as far as just get
Speaker 2: this guy onto a team where he doesn't have to
Speaker 2: he can kind of hide defensively and for as long
Speaker 2: as you're able to do that in the NBA a
Speaker 2: little bit tougher in the postseason than it is in
Speaker 2: the regular season, but he's insulated. The Magic have one
Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the NBA, and he can
Speaker 2: go out there and just be a three point shooter.
Speaker 2: Maybe in the future develop into a point guard, but
Speaker 2: we won't put the cart before the horse. I wanted
Speaker 2: Walter Clayton along with everybody else. I then sold myself
Speaker 2: hard yesterday on Casparis from Illinois, and of course the
Speaker 2: heat of all the teams that are out there took him.
Speaker 2: And then as the draft was unfolding and we see
Speaker 2: the guys that are coming off of the board, I
Speaker 2: was divided between Jace Richardson and Liam McNeely. Those were
Speaker 2: the two guys at twenty five. I said, Okay, with
Speaker 2: everybody that's off the board, let's get one of those
Speaker 2: two players. And honestly, I would have loved if they
Speaker 2: had drafted Liam McNeely. I think he's going to be
Speaker 2: a really good NBA player. But I think they made
Speaker 2: the right place given what the Magic had to attack.
Speaker 2: In this draft. We have been asking for knockdown three
Speaker 2: point shooting. Forget about defense, forget about long term upside.
Speaker 2: Just draft a human bucket getter that also can shoot
Speaker 2: with range, and Jase has that in spades. So I
Speaker 2: love the pick. I think he can contribute rather quickly.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll get that opportunity, but I
Speaker 2: think he's got the ability. To your thoughts on how
Speaker 2: it all broke down the pick and Jace Richardson.
Speaker 3: I'll start with the positive because I think there are
Speaker 3: negatives with the fake Jase Richardson. He was not a
Speaker 3: Tie guy yesterday, and he also was not one of
Speaker 3: the guys of please do not.
Speaker 1: Draft on my board.
Speaker 3: He makes a lot of sense for the Magic, and
Speaker 3: with how the draft fell, I didn't think he was
Speaker 3: going to be available. I think Castros yakachonas falling to
Speaker 3: twenty to the Miami heat, I think was a big
Speaker 3: reason why the Magic ultimately ended up with Jace Richardson.
Speaker 3: I think Miami would and very interested in that fit.
Speaker 1: As well.
Speaker 3: He has a good three point shooting percentage. He was
Speaker 3: a forty one percent shooter last year at Michigan State.
Speaker 3: He is a defensive pest. He is a great on
Speaker 3: ball defender against college point guards, and his loan season
Speaker 3: with Spardi, he showed great adaptability. He only started in
Speaker 3: fifteen to thirty six. He did not start the season
Speaker 3: in the starting rotation last year, and he was able
Speaker 3: to work his way in show his value and show
Speaker 3: that listen, I can be what you need me to be.
Speaker 1: I can be an on ball creator.
Speaker 3: I think that's what He came into college with the
Speaker 3: idea that he was going to be with his six
Speaker 3: to two frame, but he needed to be more of
Speaker 3: a spot up shooter. And when comparing him to a
Speaker 3: guy like Walter Clayton, Jace Richardson is the better spot
Speaker 3: up shooter at least analytics will say than what Walter
Speaker 3: Clayton is. So he's shown a lot of promising signs,
Speaker 3: the three point shooting, the defensive identity. He certainly was
Speaker 3: someone that fits this magic build of some of the
Speaker 3: priorities that they were looking for in with this pick
Speaker 3: in the draft.
Speaker 2: So you don't think he's a defensive liability, because if.
Speaker 3: He's guarding a Jalen Brunton sized guard, he's going to
Speaker 3: do just fine against Tyas Jones. He's going to do
Speaker 3: just fine against Jordan Poole even an explosive score. But
Speaker 3: when you face some of the bigger teams around the
Speaker 3: league and moments and Jace Richardson is not a guy, Okay,
Speaker 3: starting two guard right there, we need you right now.
Speaker 3: You know, hopefully Jace Richardson does not have to start
Speaker 3: a single game for the Orlando Magic this season, and
Speaker 3: it's not a knock to him, but if that case
Speaker 3: does come down, where he is on the court and
Speaker 3: you do, you are going up against a bigger team
Speaker 3: a Boston Celtics from last year, where you have two
Speaker 3: big guards along with two ball handling forwards and Jason
Speaker 3: Tatum and Jaylen Brown. You face those type of teams,
Speaker 3: that's where he can get isolated fairly quickly. He still
Speaker 3: has great foot speed, he has great hands. He's a pest,
Speaker 3: but you can't you can't hide the size and it
Speaker 3: certainly will be exploited. But if when he is matched
Speaker 3: up against six four and under point guards, he's a
Speaker 3: great asset to have for this team.
Speaker 2: If you're good enough offensively, you can get by, as
Speaker 2: long as you're not completely lost. If you're just in position,
Speaker 2: sometimes that's good enough. The Pacers certainly don't rely on TJ.
Speaker 2: McConnell's defense, and that's a smaller guard coming off of
Speaker 2: the bench. If that is what Jace Richardson develops into
Speaker 2: and he's a better three point shooter, sign me all
Speaker 2: the way up for that. When the draft was unfolding,
Speaker 2: did you kind of get the feeling like that was
Speaker 2: going to be the pick or I would have been
Speaker 2: very interested to see if they had drafted Nick Clifford
Speaker 2: out of Colorado State, because he's the kind of player
Speaker 2: the Magic really like. But he's also so similar to me,
Speaker 2: to Tristan, to Silva. It's like, would it be redundant
Speaker 2: if you if you took him? But he was taking
Speaker 2: one spot head with Oklahoma City. I was so intrigued
Speaker 2: when the Magic were on the clock because I'm sitting
Speaker 2: there looking at my notes, going, there's like six players
Speaker 2: I want right now at pick twenty five in the
Speaker 2: NBA Draft. That's how deep and exciting this draft class was.
Speaker 2: You have the twenty fifth pick and I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: with the my guys list that we talked about yesterday
Speaker 2: on the air, I tweeted that out.
Speaker 1: I was looking at it.
Speaker 2: Five of the six names were still available at twenty five,
Speaker 2: so there were so many different directions this team could
Speaker 2: have gone.
Speaker 1: I would have felt pretty good about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt at that point with how the draft
Speaker 3: is falling, because you know that varies what selection that
Speaker 3: you end up with. And I already mentioned I was
Speaker 3: of the belief that Jace Richardson was going to be
Speaker 3: off of the board. With Utah showing interest and Walter
Speaker 3: Clayton junior, how was that going to play out. I
Speaker 3: didn't predict that Yakachonas would fall all the way to
Speaker 3: twenty to the Miami Heat. Nolan Trey are going nineteen,
Speaker 3: I think was a bit surprising. I think I was
Speaker 3: under the impression that Brooklyn could have gotten him with
Speaker 3: one of their later picks. So when the Magic went
Speaker 3: on the clock, it seemed pretty set that with the
Speaker 3: trade to bring in Desmond Bane this offseason and kind
Speaker 3: of you know, he's a two guard, but he's also
Speaker 3: a great wing defender, great wing player. I didn't think
Speaker 3: that dropping in neck Clifford was taking the selection before,
Speaker 3: but a guy like that, it seemed that wasn't going
Speaker 3: to be the direction that the Magic would go, or
Speaker 3: a Leam McNeely. Will Riley went a couple of picks
Speaker 3: before the Magic selection. So when they were on the clock,
Speaker 3: I felt fairly confident that it was going to be
Speaker 3: Jace Richardson. And again it was a guy that he
Speaker 3: wasn't one of my guys. He wasn't not one of
Speaker 3: my guys. I didn't expect him to be there. He
Speaker 3: probably was the best available player. We're talking about a
Speaker 3: guy that was top fifteen on a lot of big
Speaker 3: boards and in a lot of mock drafts over the
Speaker 3: last couple of months.
Speaker 1: He has and a lottery pick.
Speaker 3: So when you have the opportunity to get a prospect
Speaker 3: like that at twenty four that fits a lot of
Speaker 3: the needs for your team on paper, it's kind of
Speaker 3: a something too good to look past. But I do
Speaker 3: think that it does bring some negatives bringing in a
Speaker 3: guy like Jace Richardson.
Speaker 2: Well, he's good enough for Tom Izzo, he's good enough
Speaker 2: for me. Because this is a guy he had to
Speaker 2: earn his way into that starting lineup and we'll play
Speaker 2: the clip for you later. Jeff Welman got a text
Speaker 2: last night from tom Izzo that said, this is a
Speaker 2: really smart player. All he cares about is winning, and
Speaker 2: he's about things that a lot of kids at his
Speaker 2: age are not about. And you know tom Izzo isn't
Speaker 2: just saying that. He's about as honest and grumpy as
Speaker 2: they come. And iso we trust might be.
Speaker 1: Can't never forget it.
Speaker 2: It was one of the things I liked about him
Speaker 2: is like, he's a Michigan State player.
Speaker 1: He's a Michigan State player. He shoots the three well.
Speaker 1: I love lefties. I feel like lefties.
Speaker 2: A good lefty shooter is very difficult to defend because
Speaker 2: defensive players they're so used to stopping guys from going right.
Speaker 2: And Jace Richardson being a crafty lefty. I was watching
Speaker 2: some of his highlights too. His ability to finish around
Speaker 2: the rim around big guys, I think is one of
Speaker 2: maybe the underrated qualities of his game. He's a very
Speaker 2: creative finisher, and he's one of those guys at six
Speaker 2: to one, he doesn't care that he's smaller than most
Speaker 2: of the guys he's going up against in the court.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to do just fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a big heart, and it's part of
Speaker 3: the reason why he fits so well with this magic identity.
Speaker 3: Even in the shift and direction of kind of the
Speaker 3: process and building up to win now mode, he has
Speaker 3: the right mindset and in the right hard over height mentality.
Speaker 3: To him, he is fearless when it comes to attacking
Speaker 3: the whole. At times, I'm a bit concerned of his
Speaker 3: willingness and his confidence transitioning into the NBA and with
Speaker 3: looking at the three point shooting, because percentage wise, he
Speaker 3: was a better shooter than a lot of the guys
Speaker 3: in this draft. He knocked down forty one percent of
Speaker 3: his deep balls at Michigan State last year.
Speaker 1: On average, it was on three attempts at night.
Speaker 3: And I already mentioned he only started in fifteen to
Speaker 3: thirty six games for Michigan State, and a lot of
Speaker 3: them were the final games he worked his way into
Speaker 3: the starting rotation. In his volume, his minutes, everything went
Speaker 3: up in the second half of the season, but it's
Speaker 3: not to the point of you're getting a guy who
Speaker 3: is a knockdown shooter a sure thing. Here's one of
Speaker 3: the things about Walter Clayton comparing a Walter Clayton to
Speaker 3: a Jase Richardson. Is I think Jase Richardson has the
Speaker 3: upside to be the better NBA player down the line.
Speaker 3: But with this magic shift, the trade of giving up
Speaker 3: your future aspects of assets and draft picks to bring
Speaker 3: in Desmond Bane. Are you looking for the guy who
Speaker 3: is going to be the best player in four years
Speaker 3: or the best player in eight years. That's where a
Speaker 3: guy like Walter Clayton high volume the ball in his
Speaker 3: hands a lot. He has shown you what he is
Speaker 3: able to do. He's less of a ball of clay,
Speaker 3: less to mold there. He's more of a finished product.
Speaker 3: You're more sure of what you're getting with him. Guy
Speaker 3: like that is better for you over the next four years.
Speaker 3: Whereas Jace Richardson I think has the up to upside
Speaker 3: to put the tools together, get his feet wet in
Speaker 3: the NBA and be a better long term NBA player.
Speaker 3: But does he help you in four years? Is there
Speaker 3: room on the roster for him to help you in
Speaker 3: four years? Is he going to be developed long enough.
Speaker 3: He'll be turning twenty years old in this NBA season.
Speaker 3: Is he going to be able to contribute in this
Speaker 3: three to four year timeline where we see it very
Speaker 3: likely that the Magic can win an NBA championship. Those
Speaker 3: are some of the questions that I have about Jace
Speaker 3: richards Well.
Speaker 2: It sound like they had that choice. They didn't get
Speaker 2: a chance to draft Walter Kleyton Junior. Would have been
Speaker 2: very curious to see because I'm of the belief that
Speaker 2: they were really sold on Richardson, and Jeff Weltman said
Speaker 2: this kind of GM talk saying well, we would have
Speaker 2: taken him at sixteen. Don't know if that's true or not,
Speaker 2: but it would have been interesting to see those too
Speaker 2: lined up because they do provide a very obvious need
Speaker 2: for the Magic. But, like Tyler said, in different timelines,
Speaker 2: is your AC system ready for that summer heat.