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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the nine at Jay Studios. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>to show as a song. Here's your host, Brandon Kravitz.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Welcome to the show. We are live on

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<v Speaker 2>ninety six to nine in the game, streaming everywhere on

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<v Speaker 2>to the Orlando sports fan. Your host Brandon Kravitz here,

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<v Speaker 2>joined by my co host and producer, he is Sweet

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<v Speaker 2>Tea Tyler Karen. Hit us up on the mills Are

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<v Speaker 2>text line. That's five zero eight five seven. Also on

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<v Speaker 2>the iHeartRadio talk Back. Just tap that microphone icon and

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<v Speaker 2>let it fly. Full draft recap today for Round one

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA, and I've got the secret weapon his

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<v Speaker 2>name Cowboy Karen yeeha. Also Mike Jenetty chimes in today

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<v Speaker 2>on how Cooper Flag could be a billionaire in no time,

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<v Speaker 2>and some college football talk with the Bulldog coming up

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<v Speaker 2>in this hour as well. I will never complain about

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<v Speaker 2>the draft being split up into two nights ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>You will not allow it. I will not allow it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we would have seen Round two last night,

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<v Speaker 2>the corner would have pronounced me dead at about twelve fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I was too tired, and I almost made it to

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<v Speaker 2>the finish line unscathed. I did not fall asleep. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not give in to the weight of my eyelids

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<v Speaker 2>until pick thirty two the clippers were on or not

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two thirty thinking about the NFL draft. Pick thirty

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<v Speaker 2>the clippers were on the clock, and I checked out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I almost made it all the way through.

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<v Speaker 2>Had there been around two, honestly, I would have said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll catch up with it in the morning. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad because I do as much of a sicko as

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be to watch the second round. I

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<v Speaker 2>will be watching it, Tyler will be taking notes to it,

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<v Speaker 2>just to give you an idea of the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>us and many of you won't care because you're normal

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<v Speaker 2>human beings. But I am glad that it's a separate event.

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<v Speaker 2>So officially, off of that stance, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>I was so worked up about the second round being

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<v Speaker 2>on a different night.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe you didn't give the proper respect to

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<v Speaker 3>the final pick of the first round, Yanich Conan Niderhauser

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<v Speaker 3>out of Penn State.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, yeah, you say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost threw.

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<v Speaker 3>Him in with our conversation with Tyler Metcalf from No

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<v Speaker 3>Ceilings MDA, which we will play some clips on in

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<v Speaker 3>this segment, because he had some pretty good insight, or

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<v Speaker 3>at least a good prediction on who the Ortlanta Magic

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<v Speaker 3>would be looking for at pick number twenty five. Almost

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned him, Yeah, I mentioned it on the show yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>the classication on listening to B BK will we talked

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<v Speaker 3>to the question is it necessary to split this up

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<v Speaker 3>into two days? That Browny James rule from last year

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<v Speaker 3>where he needed his own spotlight, his own day when

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<v Speaker 3>he got his name called or when he got drafted rather,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, I'm happy about it because I very

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<v Speaker 3>much do care about the second round. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>this can be there can be a lot of gems

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<v Speaker 3>to come out of this second round with some names

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<v Speaker 3>that are so left on the board that didn't hear

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<v Speaker 3>their name called last night. And I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>stay up till one am last night and beyond in

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<v Speaker 3>order to hear all of those names, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>on full display. The draft probably starts a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>too late. They probably spend a little bit too much

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<v Speaker 3>time on the first round. So I'm certainly in the

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<v Speaker 3>camp that I am happy that it is a two

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<v Speaker 3>day event now. And I guess in the past, and

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<v Speaker 3>this was only two years ago, when they were doing

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<v Speaker 3>it like this, they would start the draft a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit earlier. If you're going to fit two rounds in,

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<v Speaker 3>then you got to start before you get to eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was the case.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I'm fine with the way that

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<v Speaker 2>it is and I will never complain about it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was very tired and Draft put me to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I slept great last night. I think the draft for

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<v Speaker 2>that and an IPA. No matter the season that we

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<v Speaker 2>are in on the show, NFL Draft, NBA Draft, Fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>Football Preparations, NCAA Tournament, whatever it is, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we arm you with the most accurate and relevant information

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<v Speaker 2>of many shows that are out there. Something that has

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<v Speaker 2>become sort of a mission for this show is that

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<v Speaker 2>if there is a big event out there that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us are going to lock in on, you

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<v Speaker 2>will be armed with as much accurate information as possible

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<v Speaker 2>and you will sound smarter to the people that you

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<v Speaker 2>are in a room with later that day. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is partially because of the research that Tyler and I

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<v Speaker 2>do and mostly thanks to the guests that we bring

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<v Speaker 2>on that absolutely crush it in these areas. We have strengths,

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<v Speaker 2>we have weaknesses. As a show, I am touting what

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<v Speaker 2>I believe to be one of the strengths of this

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<v Speaker 2>show is identifying who in the media covers the events

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<v Speaker 2>that we care about his sports fans the best. And

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday we had Tyler Metcalfan from No Ceilings NBA. They

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely crush it when it comes to NBA draft coverage,

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<v Speaker 2>and he nailed this pick for the Magic. If it's

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<v Speaker 2>not Clayton, can you give the Magic fans that are

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<v Speaker 2>listening a player that they should be doing backflips over

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<v Speaker 2>if they're available at twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Drake.

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<v Speaker 4>Richardson makes a lot of sense. He is really small,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's a former NBA pro Jason Richardson's son, a

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<v Speaker 4>really high level shooter, really smart player, creative passer. He

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of played a shooting guard role for Michigan

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<v Speaker 4>State this year because that's what was asked of him,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was the best shooter of the guards, so

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<v Speaker 4>he kind of got relegated into that more shooting guard.

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<v Speaker 4>But he is a lot more passing upside and playing

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<v Speaker 4>off of Bronze and Polo and des in Vain. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he'll give he would give the Magic a ton

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<v Speaker 4>of spacing and versatility and just overall IQ at that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of pseudo point guard spot where he's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>having to create everything and run the offense, but he

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<v Speaker 4>can play also in that off ball role.

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<v Speaker 1>Rondo, applause, take a bow.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend Tyler Metcalf absolutely nailed it, and I love

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<v Speaker 2>the pick too. He was on the My guy list.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot to like about Jace Richardson. This was my

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<v Speaker 2>pre draft breakdown for Jace, son of Jason Richardson, also

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<v Speaker 2>one of my guys when he was in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>So he falls off the right tree for me. He's

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<v Speaker 2>an exciting player. He's young, he's nineteen years old. Statistically

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<v Speaker 2>he's actually a better three point shooter than Walter Clayton,

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<v Speaker 2>who a lot of us wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is small. He's six to one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a guy that you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to rely on defensively, and that road here. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's going to have to land on a team

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<v Speaker 2>where he's insulated in that regard, but he can absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>fill it up on offense and he can fill it

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<v Speaker 2>up efficiently too. He's not just a volume Hount and

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<v Speaker 2>the Magic are perfect fit as far as just get

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<v Speaker 2>this guy onto a team where he doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>he can kind of hide defensively and for as long

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<v Speaker 2>as you're able to do that in the NBA a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit tougher in the postseason than it is in

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season, but he's insulated. The Magic have one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best defenses in the NBA, and he can

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and just be a three point shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe in the future develop into a point guard, but

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<v Speaker 2>we won't put the cart before the horse. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>Walter Clayton along with everybody else. I then sold myself

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<v Speaker 2>hard yesterday on Casparis from Illinois, and of course the

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<v Speaker 2>heat of all the teams that are out there took him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as the draft was unfolding and we see

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that are coming off of the board, I

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<v Speaker 2>was divided between Jace Richardson and Liam McNeely. Those were

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<v Speaker 2>the two guys at twenty five. I said, Okay, with

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<v Speaker 2>everybody that's off the board, let's get one of those

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<v Speaker 2>two players. And honestly, I would have loved if they

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<v Speaker 2>had drafted Liam McNeely. I think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a really good NBA player. But I think they made

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<v Speaker 2>the right place given what the Magic had to attack.

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<v Speaker 2>In this draft. We have been asking for knockdown three

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<v Speaker 2>point shooting. Forget about defense, forget about long term upside.

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<v Speaker 2>Just draft a human bucket getter that also can shoot

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<v Speaker 2>with range, and Jase has that in spades. So I

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<v Speaker 2>love the pick. I think he can contribute rather quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he'll get that opportunity, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's got the ability. To your thoughts on how

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<v Speaker 2>it all broke down the pick and Jace Richardson.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll start with the positive because I think there are

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<v Speaker 3>negatives with the fake Jase Richardson. He was not a

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<v Speaker 3>Tie guy yesterday, and he also was not one of

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<v Speaker 3>the guys of please do not.

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<v Speaker 1>Draft on my board.

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<v Speaker 3>He makes a lot of sense for the Magic, and

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<v Speaker 3>with how the draft fell, I didn't think he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be available. I think Castros yakachonas falling to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty to the Miami heat, I think was a big

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<v Speaker 3>reason why the Magic ultimately ended up with Jace Richardson.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Miami would and very interested in that fit.

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<v Speaker 1>As well.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a good three point shooting percentage. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a forty one percent shooter last year at Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a defensive pest. He is a great on

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<v Speaker 3>with Spardi, he showed great adaptability. He only started in

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen to thirty six. He did not start the season

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<v Speaker 3>in the starting rotation last year, and he was able

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<v Speaker 3>to work his way in show his value and show

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<v Speaker 3>that listen, I can be what you need me to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I can be an on ball creator.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what He came into college with the

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<v Speaker 3>idea that he was going to be with his six

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<v Speaker 3>to two frame, but he needed to be more of

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<v Speaker 3>a spot up shooter. And when comparing him to a

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<v Speaker 3>guy like Walter Clayton, Jace Richardson is the better spot

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<v Speaker 3>up shooter at least analytics will say than what Walter

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<v Speaker 3>Clayton is. So he's shown a lot of promising signs,

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<v Speaker 3>the three point shooting, the defensive identity. He certainly was

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<v Speaker 3>someone that fits this magic build of some of the

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<v Speaker 3>priorities that they were looking for in with this pick

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't think he's a defensive liability, because if.

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<v Speaker 3>He's guarding a Jalen Brunton sized guard, he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>do just fine against Tyas Jones. He's going to do

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<v Speaker 3>just fine against Jordan Poole even an explosive score. But

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<v Speaker 3>when you face some of the bigger teams around the

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<v Speaker 3>league and moments and Jace Richardson is not a guy, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>starting two guard right there, we need you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, hopefully Jace Richardson does not have to start

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<v Speaker 3>a single game for the Orlando Magic this season, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a knock to him, but if that case

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<v Speaker 3>does come down, where he is on the court and

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<v Speaker 3>you do, you are going up against a bigger team

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<v Speaker 3>a Boston Celtics from last year, where you have two

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<v Speaker 3>that's where he can get isolated fairly quickly. He still

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<v Speaker 3>but you can't you can't hide the size and it

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<v Speaker 3>certainly will be exploited. But if when he is matched

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<v Speaker 3>up against six four and under point guards, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>If you're good enough offensively, you can get by, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you're not completely lost. If you're just in position,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes that's good enough. The Pacers certainly don't rely on TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>McConnell's defense, and that's a smaller guard coming off of

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<v Speaker 2>the bench. If that is what Jace Richardson develops into

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a better three point shooter, sign me all

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<v Speaker 2>the way up for that. When the draft was unfolding,

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the pick or I would have been

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<v Speaker 2>very interested to see if they had drafted Nick Clifford

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<v Speaker 2>out of Colorado State, because he's the kind of player

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<v Speaker 2>the Magic really like. But he's also so similar to me,

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<v Speaker 2>to Tristan, to Silva. It's like, would it be redundant

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you took him? But he was taking

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<v Speaker 2>one spot head with Oklahoma City. I was so intrigued

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<v Speaker 2>when the Magic were on the clock because I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there looking at my notes, going, there's like six players

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<v Speaker 2>I want right now at pick twenty five in the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA Draft. That's how deep and exciting this draft class was.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the twenty fifth pick and I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>with the my guys list that we talked about yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>on the air, I tweeted that out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Five of the six names were still available at twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>so there were so many different directions this team could

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<v Speaker 1>I would have felt pretty good about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I felt at that point with how the draft

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<v Speaker 3>is falling, because you know that varies what selection that

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<v Speaker 3>you end up with. And I already mentioned I was

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<v Speaker 3>of the belief that Jace Richardson was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>off of the board. With Utah showing interest and Walter

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<v Speaker 3>Clayton junior, how was that going to play out. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't predict that Yakachonas would fall all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty to the Miami Heat. Nolan Trey are going nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>I think was a bit surprising. I think I was

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<v Speaker 3>under the impression that Brooklyn could have gotten him with

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<v Speaker 3>one of their later picks. So when the Magic went

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<v Speaker 3>trade to bring in Desmond Bane this offseason and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, he's a two guard, but he's also

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<v Speaker 3>a great wing defender, great wing player. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>that dropping in neck Clifford was taking the selection before,

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<v Speaker 3>but a guy like that, it seemed that wasn't going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the direction that the Magic would go, or

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<v Speaker 3>a Leam McNeely. Will Riley went a couple of picks

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<v Speaker 3>before the Magic selection. So when they were on the clock,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt fairly confident that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>Jace Richardson. And again it was a guy that he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't one of my guys. He wasn't not one of

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<v Speaker 3>my guys. I didn't expect him to be there. He

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<v Speaker 3>probably was the best available player. We're talking about a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that was top fifteen on a lot of big

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>He has and a lottery pick.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you have the opportunity to get a prospect

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<v Speaker 3>like that at twenty four that fits a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the needs for your team on paper, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a something too good to look past. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that it does bring some negatives bringing in a

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's good enough for Tom Izzo, he's good enough

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Because this is a guy he had to

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<v Speaker 2>earn his way into that starting lineup and we'll play

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<v Speaker 2>the clip for you later. Jeff Welman got a text

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<v Speaker 2>last night from tom Izzo that said, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>really smart player. All he cares about is winning, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's about things that a lot of kids at his

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<v Speaker 2>age are not about. And you know tom Izzo isn't

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<v Speaker 2>just saying that. He's about as honest and grumpy as

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<v Speaker 2>they come. And iso we trust might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't never forget it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the things I liked about him

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<v Speaker 2>is like, he's a Michigan State player.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Michigan State player. He shoots the three well.

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<v Speaker 1>I love lefties. I feel like lefties.

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<v Speaker 2>A good lefty shooter is very difficult to defend because

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<v Speaker 2>defensive players they're so used to stopping guys from going right.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jace Richardson being a crafty lefty. I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>some of his highlights too. His ability to finish around

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<v Speaker 2>the rim around big guys, I think is one of

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the underrated qualities of his game. He's a very

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<v Speaker 2>creative finisher, and he's one of those guys at six

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<v Speaker 2>to one, he doesn't care that he's smaller than most

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<v Speaker 2>of the guys he's going up against in the court.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to do just fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got a big heart, and it's part of

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why he fits so well with this magic identity.

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<v Speaker 3>Even in the shift and direction of kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>process and building up to win now mode, he has

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<v Speaker 3>the right mindset and in the right hard over height mentality.

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<v Speaker 3>To him, he is fearless when it comes to attacking

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<v Speaker 3>the whole. At times, I'm a bit concerned of his

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<v Speaker 3>willingness and his confidence transitioning into the NBA and with

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the three point shooting, because percentage wise, he

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<v Speaker 3>was a better shooter than a lot of the guys

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<v Speaker 3>in this draft. He knocked down forty one percent of

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<v Speaker 3>his deep balls at Michigan State last year.

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<v Speaker 1>On average, it was on three attempts at night.

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<v Speaker 3>And I already mentioned he only started in fifteen to

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<v Speaker 3>thirty six games for Michigan State, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>them were the final games he worked his way into

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<v Speaker 3>the starting rotation. In his volume, his minutes, everything went

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<v Speaker 3>up in the second half of the season, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not to the point of you're getting a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>is a knockdown shooter a sure thing. Here's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things about Walter Clayton comparing a Walter Clayton to

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<v Speaker 3>a Jase Richardson. Is I think Jase Richardson has the

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<v Speaker 3>upside to be the better NBA player down the line.

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<v Speaker 3>But with this magic shift, the trade of giving up

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<v Speaker 3>your future aspects of assets and draft picks to bring

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<v Speaker 3>in Desmond Bane. Are you looking for the guy who

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be the best player in four years

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<v Speaker 3>or the best player in eight years. That's where a

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<v Speaker 3>guy like Walter Clayton high volume the ball in his

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<v Speaker 3>hands a lot. He has shown you what he is

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<v Speaker 3>able to do. He's less of a ball of clay,

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<v Speaker 3>less to mold there. He's more of a finished product.

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<v Speaker 3>You're more sure of what you're getting with him. Guy

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<v Speaker 3>like that is better for you over the next four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas Jace Richardson I think has the up to upside

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<v Speaker 3>to put the tools together, get his feet wet in

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA and be a better long term NBA player.

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<v Speaker 3>But does he help you in four years? Is there

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<v Speaker 3>room on the roster for him to help you in

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<v Speaker 3>four years? Is he going to be developed long enough.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll be turning twenty years old in this NBA season.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he going to be able to contribute in this

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<v Speaker 3>three to four year timeline where we see it very

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<v Speaker 3>likely that the Magic can win an NBA championship. Those

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<v Speaker 3>are some of the questions that I have about Jace

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<v Speaker 3>richards Well.

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<v Speaker 2>It sound like they had that choice. They didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to draft Walter Kleyton Junior. Would have been

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<v Speaker 2>very curious to see because I'm of the belief that

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<v Speaker 2>they were really sold on Richardson, and Jeff Weltman said

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of GM talk saying well, we would have

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<v Speaker 2>taken him at sixteen. Don't know if that's true or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but it would have been interesting to see those too

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<v Speaker 2>lined up because they do provide a very obvious need

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<v Speaker 2>for the Magic. But, like Tyler said, in different timelines,

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<v Speaker 2>is your AC system ready for that summer heat.