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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Batflips and Nerds at Baseball podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with a British twist. I am your host today, Rob Rivera,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're here today to fulfill a very special annual

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<v Speaker 1>rite of passage where the backup guys of a niche

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<v Speaker 1>podcast predict a bunch of numbers over an unnecessarily long duration. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is time to gaze into our crystal balls and

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<v Speaker 1>prognosticate for the twenty twenty five Batflips and Nerds B

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<v Speaker 1>Team Predictions podcast. Could probably some echo in there, if yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>someone even crank the echo up, joining me as always

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<v Speaker 1>are right pair of tetas. Firstly resident clairvoyant master of

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<v Speaker 1>the website. We got Gavlong. So Gav, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing well?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you not bad? What form of mysticism are

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<v Speaker 1>you using to put a prediction your your numbers today?

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<v Speaker 2>It's I think it's the sort of system that BP

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<v Speaker 2>would like to have, So you know, it's I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get divulge how I've come to these figures, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, lovely and secondly possessed by the spirits of x wOBA,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Russell Esum. How you doing. I'm doing good? Rob

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good, and have you had a particular I

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<v Speaker 1>mean usually, of course Russell's been like the numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>raining down the back of his eyes like the matrix.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's been a special way of you predicting these

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<v Speaker 1>this year or have you just gone with feels like

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<v Speaker 1>I clearly have.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some effort and then there's feels on who I

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<v Speaker 3>think are basically going to do bad and then sell

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<v Speaker 3>all of their players. That's that's my feel's aspects of

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to work out who I think is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>sell off halfway through the season when they're season has

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<v Speaker 3>been met so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, there's a lot deeper than I've been thinking. Excellent, Okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we all know this is a prediction podcast. These

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<v Speaker 1>things tend to run extremely long, So well done. Strap in.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in for a long ride with us. What we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do then is we're going to go this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go division by division, and Russell has

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<v Speaker 1>kindly produced some graphics for us, which through the magic

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<v Speaker 1>of the internet, if you are watching on YouTube, you

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<v Speaker 1>should if you look above our heads. It is above

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<v Speaker 1>our heads, right Russ.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that will decide when I actually put the video together.

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<v Speaker 1>Next to or below our heads is a graphic now

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<v Speaker 1>which will not only display the predictions we've all made

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<v Speaker 1>and then how we we've agreed, but also many of

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<v Speaker 1>you who are looking and may have seen this for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, is our brand new logo, which is

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<v Speaker 1>our rotating bat for backflips and nerds. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>keen to point this out quickly here on the B

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<v Speaker 1>Team podcast before the A Team got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, so look and reveler. Our new wonderful logo

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<v Speaker 1>is all a bit of a partnership with the wider

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<v Speaker 1>MLB community in the UK, so look out for a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of that coming soon. But yeah, so you should.

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<v Speaker 1>If if this is work, you'll probably be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see it. If not, feel free to listen along. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do anything on the screen that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>normally have from the standard podcast format. So as well

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<v Speaker 1>as having our normal predictions, given that Gav is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an Internet edge lord, I'm a man child

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<v Speaker 1>and Russe always has to be right, we are building

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<v Speaker 1>in some tiebreakers this year. So what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do is we're going to use a random stat or

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<v Speaker 1>something about a player and then pick a random player

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<v Speaker 1>from the team that we are disagreeing on. That is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be how we decide whose prediction we go with.

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<v Speaker 1>Gav shaking his head already because he knows this is

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<v Speaker 1>all going to go horribly, horribly wrong. So Russell is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the master of the graphics today. So Russell,

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<v Speaker 1>given that we are kind of led by that, which

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<v Speaker 1>division are we going to start with today?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start with a level of mediocrity. So let's go

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<v Speaker 3>for the NL Central.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's start with Gav. Gav, can you take

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<v Speaker 1>us down? You're running order for the NL Central and

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<v Speaker 1>what you put in there? And why?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, certainly you just want the number of winds.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I have the it's pretty horrible division, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's not news to anyone. I say, having seen the

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<v Speaker 2>them down a couple of winds now, because well, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't win them. So I've got the Milwaukee Brewers with

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four Chicago Cubs were eighty three. Cardinals with eighty

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<v Speaker 2>Reds with seventy nine and the Pirates with seventy three.

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<v Speaker 2>So the way I came about that is the Cubs, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the signing of Tucker, and it's pretty steady lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not sure what happens with their rotation if

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<v Speaker 2>any of the top three get injured. And as we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen with so many teams, the top three are getting

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<v Speaker 2>injured or three pitchers are getting injured. But it's such

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<v Speaker 2>a winnable division. The Brewers, I think I always underestimate

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<v Speaker 2>how good they're going to be, and yet again I

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<v Speaker 2>am underestimating how good they're going to be. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they had ninety three wins last time, and I've put

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<v Speaker 2>them down for eighty four, and really all they've lost

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<v Speaker 2>is Adamas and Burns. I say, only you know pretty

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<v Speaker 2>two great players. They will get back Woodruff sometime. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know Mitchell and Hoskins. They could be the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between them being an eighty four win team or being

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the other projection systems had them for, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think was higher. Who else we got Pirates? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I can bother talk about them. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand how one team can be so so good at

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<v Speaker 2>pitching and then just so dreadful at hitting in that

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<v Speaker 2>they have such a good rotation, and they've got Harrington

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<v Speaker 2>and Chandler in the wings waiting to come through. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, is Andrew Cutching their third best sitter?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he is some Lewis Cardinals. They could be a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff team, or they could be absolutely dreadful.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what Russ, Russ, Russ, you're countering

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<v Speaker 1>already on the on the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally do not understand how anybody can think this

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<v Speaker 3>team is going to win anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what did they add?

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<v Speaker 2>They had such a good team, No, they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>They were crap last year and they added Bill mat

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<v Speaker 3>On what what what are you expecting to actually do

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<v Speaker 1>They were awful? Awful again.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there is so much potential there going to be magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly, you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got Walker and Gorman and Herrera, Mason, win.

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<v Speaker 3>Woman basically failed to show their talent already. So why

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<v Speaker 3>would together even younger than you? Russell, Yeah, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>particularly hard. I would tell you that probably, like the

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not saying they will be because I'm giving

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<v Speaker 2>them a losing record, and what I'm saying is that

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<v Speaker 2>they have so much potential that they could be a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff team. I don't understand about the Aeronado fiasco, and

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<v Speaker 2>I figure that because they're changing changing ownership, they won't

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<v Speaker 2>so I won't go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have I?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, No, that the Cincinnati Reds, So that the other

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<v Speaker 2>team you.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't spoken about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so what I like about them is Elie Delacruz

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<v Speaker 2>and Terry Francona and that's it. No, Matt McLain loves

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<v Speaker 2>they wayfully underperformed last year. Yeah, Matt McCain could be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Seer might not be as injured as he is,

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<v Speaker 2>but Hunter Green maybe he is a MVP caliber. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Nicolodolo it's going to stay healthy. Singer and Martinez, they're

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<v Speaker 2>both pretty steady guys. But it does seem like one

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<v Speaker 2>stud and eight average players.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, they've they've certainly got also around written

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<v Speaker 1>all over the team, haven't they. We're with with the Reds.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're playing around with the middle third of

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<v Speaker 1>predictions rather than the absolute bargain bottom or the or

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<v Speaker 1>the top end like that. They're not going to win

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred games, then they're not going to lose a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred games, but they're certainly probably not going to come

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere near near fifty to fifty either, So they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be that sort of really dirgy bottom third without

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<v Speaker 1>being without being dreadful. I kind of I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you on the Reds there. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>you've got them a bit high, if I'm honest, really, Russ,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you got?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we start on the like, I think the

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<v Speaker 3>team they have right now could probably win eighty games,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think they'll be in a position come pretty

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<v Speaker 3>like the end of like mideedon trading and the trade

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<v Speaker 3>and deadline, and they'll turn some people over. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I've knocked them down a few things. Same with

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<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals. I don't think they'll be in contention, so

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'll get rid of some more people who

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<v Speaker 3>will get them some prospects and come through. I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't see any kind of like high things from that Pirates.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they'll do that. Haven't done that in ages.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't think it's really the their of their mo

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<v Speaker 3>Like you say, great pitching can't produce a bat. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>for me, Gav, that's just basically Cleveland all over again.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's how I know exactly how it works. You

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<v Speaker 3>different coaches are there to basically coach pitching and they're

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<v Speaker 3>to coach hitting, and well, for most teams they've got

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<v Speaker 3>one and knock or the other. So and the Brewers

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<v Speaker 3>and the Cubs at the top. Like, if I'm honest,

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<v Speaker 3>I got no idea. Like we all underestimated the Brewers

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<v Speaker 3>last year. We're all thought that like losing counsel would

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<v Speaker 3>probably have some impact on there, but they kind of

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<v Speaker 3>showed that they kind of know how to get things done.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously the Cubs have made the signings in this division,

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<v Speaker 3>they've made the trades in this division, which make you

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<v Speaker 3>think that they are better. But like once again, it's

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<v Speaker 3>still a bit mare. It's still kind of a who's

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<v Speaker 3>coming down to it. The fact that hey, John Bertie

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<v Speaker 3>good sign as far as I'm concerned, even if he

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<v Speaker 3>went like three for four today whatever and had two

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<v Speaker 3>stolen bases like. I don't think that's a good sign

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<v Speaker 3>that you've got a well fleshed out team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's all very very fair kind of channeling,

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<v Speaker 1>very very similar most of the way through the division there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I'm probably a little bit higher on

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<v Speaker 1>the Pirates than you, you guy us guide getting all

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<v Speaker 1>fruity early. A little bit higher on the Pirates. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they've got that up and coming, and every

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<v Speaker 1>year there's a team that is a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can all kind of generally agree that

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<v Speaker 1>finally the Pirates are about start digging their way out

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<v Speaker 1>this rut. They got the pitching coming along now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's starting to look like they're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely dreadful, And I think this could be that year

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<v Speaker 1>little bit before maybe next year they'll be a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a fall to sort of reset them a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I've got them. I've got them a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit higher, I mean, not dramatically higher. Russ. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're very very similar to me on the Pirates.

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<v Speaker 1>From seventy nine to eighty two, Ish Gav considerably less Cubs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the fact we've seen two games of the

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<v Speaker 1>lose them both, it really does hurt it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think consciously or subconsciously, I think there has been

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<v Speaker 1>it will feel to most of us, so perhaps have

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<v Speaker 1>been a little bit stingy on them there. So running

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<v Speaker 1>down my order then, so I had the Cardinals topping

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<v Speaker 1>There's always that team goes on a on a tear,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what Gav is right, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>could be that team. So I've got the Cardinals winning

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<v Speaker 1>the division in eighty six I've got the Brewers coming

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<v Speaker 1>second on eighty five. Irates are third on eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cubs languishing way down where expected in fourth

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<v Speaker 1>let's I mean, let's start start with a couple that

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<v Speaker 1>we all seem to agree on. Looking at the Cubs,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all there or there about your Russ eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Gave eighty three and I've got eighty. I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 1>on eighty three. Right with me, I'm with three. We go.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first prediction is that the the Chicago Cubs are

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<v Speaker 1>going to win eighty three games this year, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>ruin that immediately for us, no doubt. Second up, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Brewers again, we're all very very close. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got eighty four and eighty four for Russy Gave, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got eighty five. So happy to go to the consensus

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<v Speaker 1>and take eighty four on that. I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>leave the Cardinals for now. Pirates, me and Russ are close.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave is a long way off. What do we think?

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<v Speaker 2>What have you should got?

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, Gav, you're on seventy three, Russ has got

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine and I'm on eighty two. So I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to come down to Russell, but not not an awful

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<v Speaker 1>lot lower than that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't see where the bats are.

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<v Speaker 3>But you only you can win games one nil, Gav.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have some of the Beds pitching the how's.

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<v Speaker 1>The seventy eight to split it?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go seventy eight on the Pirates. Yep, lovely seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eight and the Pirates the Reds. I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 1>stingy on the Reds. I'm not gonna lie I have

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<v Speaker 1>been stingy. I think Gavin has been, so I've gone

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<v Speaker 1>with sixty eight on the Reds. Russell's got seventy four

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<v Speaker 1>and Gav's got seventy nine. I think I've been stingy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Gav has been a bit of a homer,

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<v Speaker 1>so I personally would rather trust Russell on the Reds.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I trust Russell with anything, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm definitely right on the Reds. If anything, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>too low on the Reds.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm happy to go up to like a seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six or something like that, but I'm not going anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>here seventy ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>I figured that you'd both have them as a five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred team, and I thought I was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the low guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they I also think that would they'll sell

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<v Speaker 3>mid season because this is like maybe not this year

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<v Speaker 3>and when the project.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happens when I'm get you to disagree are.

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<v Speaker 1>We can have a tiebreaker. We have our tiebreak game. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see if this works. Right. So, Gav, you're the

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<v Speaker 1>one who is disagreeing with us. So I need you

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<v Speaker 1>to pick a stat or fact or something. We can

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<v Speaker 1>search about a random REDS player and then I will

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<v Speaker 1>try and generate a random red player.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just want the stat.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick us a stat? Yeah, because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>pick a bunch of pictures. If if it's a hitting.

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<v Speaker 2>Stat, so stolen bases last year?

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<v Speaker 1>Stolen bases? Right, Okay, So that means we need hitters.

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<v Speaker 1>I can randomly generate a hitter and then we will

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<v Speaker 1>all guess and then whoever is closest their prediction is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that will work. So this is fantastic audio

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<v Speaker 1>with me frantically typing. Right, let's have a look at this, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Russell, you better not be cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope with this scary mind. Yeah, okay, so you should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to see my spinometer of Reds players for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who are listening to it, take my word,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a spinometer of Reds players. I'm gonna spin

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<v Speaker 1>it and we're gonna land on someone around it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Christian Encamassian Strand. Right, so, uh, let's how

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do this without relieving it to Gab. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the expert, then, right, you go first? How many how

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<v Speaker 1>many steels? Steels were going with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But stolen basis last year? Zero?

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<v Speaker 1>Zero? Oh well, I'm gonna go with one. The answer

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<v Speaker 1>is zero. He didn't play, did he? No? He played

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty other play appearances. But there's no way he

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<v Speaker 1>stole anything. I reckon he's got one following a double steal? There?

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<v Speaker 1>Who can who can search this one quickest? Have your

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<v Speaker 1>optimism role Christian and Canassian Strand has zero stolen basis. Okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened here is we've now not broken our our

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<v Speaker 1>tie with our tie breaker. So I'm going to re

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<v Speaker 1>spin and it's just now between the two of you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so go spin again and the we have Heimer Candelario.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Gav me first again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now fine, Russ, you go first, Sick, I'll go five.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the answer is Russ, the answer is or So

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<v Speaker 1>Gav wins, Gav we went, and we're going with Gav's prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>Then for the Reds, Wow, good grief. Let's hope we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to do any of those tie breakers because

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<v Speaker 1>that was painful. No, it was good fun. It was

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<v Speaker 1>good fun. Right, so then let's have a look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals, because we are all wildly different on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're probably heading to another tiebreak. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's Cardinals magic with eighty six. Russell thinks they're subw're

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle with sorry, Gab thinks that somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle with eighty and Russell reckons they're only going

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<v Speaker 1>to win seventy three games. Am I fair and saying

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do another another tie break here? I

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<v Speaker 1>think so I'm going to wants to change his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one of the one things I feel more

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<v Speaker 3>certain on where we could be proven in six months time.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the devil magic has gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, then I'm going to go for let's do career

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<v Speaker 1>earnings like quickly I can. I've got sports track up

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. Career earning. We're just going for a

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<v Speaker 1>guess and then I'm going to throw this into our wheel.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you don't want to see the wheel because that

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<v Speaker 1>just messes everything up. So let's spin the wheel. Career

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<v Speaker 1>earnings of Lars Newtbar. So I'm going to say Lars

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<v Speaker 1>Newtbar has career earning is going to be fairly low.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say Las Newtbar's career earnings are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one point eight million.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Just seven dollars or seven million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got two years of arbitration in the Yeah, I think, Russ.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm going to say about three million. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got the answer in front of me, and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>he's one again.

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<v Speaker 1>Gav is right. The career earnings of last Newbar is

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<v Speaker 1>nine point nine million, force two, five hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six dollars. So yeah, we're going to go with the

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<v Speaker 1>gal answer yet again.

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<v Speaker 2>But as it was in the middle, that probably helps us,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It does it, it's yeah, abolutely are you including this

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<v Speaker 1>year's earnings? I don't know. I've just gone through a

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<v Speaker 1>website and it's told me that, yes, yes, we are, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not earned that money yet. Mate. Oh well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. I think Gave still would have won

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<v Speaker 1>even if even if we didn't include this year.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well it gets to be eighty, so we've

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<v Speaker 3>now congested league, probably fairly similar to almost exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>Fangraft said. So yeah, So running it down, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>Brewers on eighty four, Cubs on eighty three, Cardinals on eighty,

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<v Speaker 3>Pirates on seventy eight. Sorry sorry, Red's on seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Pirates on seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where should we go next? Um, well, let's jump

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<v Speaker 1>to the A L West Al West, So revealing our

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<v Speaker 1>Al West. Russ, do you want to talk us through?

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<v Speaker 1>Then your approach first, and let's see what you got. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>So the Ale West.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of thought that there are some reasonable teams here,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think that's more based on the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>there's one very bad team and there's also another very

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<v Speaker 3>bad team in the ALE that they're going to play again.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have the.

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<v Speaker 3>Astros and the Rangers getting ninety wins. I like what

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<v Speaker 3>the Rangers system looks like right now with their additions

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<v Speaker 3>and with the potential of actually having the grand pitch.

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<v Speaker 3>While that potential is always there, I will still be

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<v Speaker 3>the of the optimist that they'll get more than twenty

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<v Speaker 3>innings out of him. So I have the Angels, so

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<v Speaker 3>you have the Rangers and the Astros both with ninety wins.

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<v Speaker 3>The Astros, I just think are generally a machine and

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<v Speaker 3>do better than you think they will do, even if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't trust what's going on there. I think they've

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<v Speaker 3>got good starting pitching and a very good bullpen that

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<v Speaker 3>will keep them involved in a lot of the games.

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<v Speaker 3>I think got the Mariners on eighty five wins. I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of think they're a pretty average team, but because

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<v Speaker 3>I've got everybody in this division beating up on the Angels,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of takes them a little bit higher. I

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<v Speaker 3>also think that they're probably actually roughly in line with

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<v Speaker 3>most of the teams in the Al Central as well,

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<v Speaker 3>So see them coming out kind of like fairly even

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<v Speaker 3>across a lot of amount of games. Sacramento Athletics I

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<v Speaker 3>have eighty one wins.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a reasonable team. I'm not certain if they will

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<v Speaker 3>sell anybody off in the mid season, which is why

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<v Speaker 3>I still had them getting to eighty one wins, even

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<v Speaker 3>though they might be out of the division. Think that

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<v Speaker 3>their approach to kind of trying to stay ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>the luxury tax, or not the luxury tax, to saying

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of the amount of money they're supposed to spend

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<v Speaker 3>otherwise there will be soon. Means I don't think they'll

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of any players. I have to have to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with, like maybe getting some money in to get

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<v Speaker 3>to a line. And then the Angels are bad, and

421
00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:52.920
<v Speaker 3>I think the Angels will be bad, and I think

422
00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:55.200
<v Speaker 3>that they will probably then get rid of players. So

423
00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:59.359
<v Speaker 3>they have sixty eight wins. So yeah, two reasonable teams

424
00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.839
<v Speaker 3>at the top and then one very bad LA team

425
00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:06.640
<v Speaker 3>I think, I mean, you can't really differ far far

426
00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.440
<v Speaker 3>from that. I mean, I think there's as there is

427
00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:13.160
<v Speaker 3>every year. There is far too much made about the

428
00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:17.480
<v Speaker 3>demise of the Astros. The Astros are still a stonkingly

429
00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.039
<v Speaker 3>good team in a division that's that has.

430
00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Pulled its socks up over the last couple of years.

431
00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.039
<v Speaker 1>It is, it is a lot better than it was

432
00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. So I've still got the Astros

433
00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.680
<v Speaker 1>sat the top with with ninety one wins, and I

434
00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:31.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's really anybody that's going to be that

435
00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:33.759
<v Speaker 1>close behind him. I think the rest of the team

436
00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>are going to be the rest of the division are

437
00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be in squabbling so much that that they

438
00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:40.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of take a lot of points off of each other.

439
00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I do have the Angels at the bottom on seventy wins.

440
00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:47.119
<v Speaker 1>They're not going anywhere. There's nothing about the Angels. They

441
00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:50.799
<v Speaker 1>don't They don't really have much much behind them in

442
00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:54.319
<v Speaker 1>sort of future coming either. Like their farm ranking isn't

443
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:56.319
<v Speaker 1>all that great, you know, it's it's it's it's chipped

444
00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:58.839
<v Speaker 1>up a little, but it's it still hasn't felt brilliant

445
00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>for a good while. The Mariners just don't seem to

446
00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.200
<v Speaker 1>be able to get out of their own way. They've

447
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>got all the pitching in the world, but none of

448
00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the hitting, and that's going to land them squarely on

449
00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>an eighty for me. And then the Rangers have just

450
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>been lucky for years. Last year we saw them fall

451
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>down from their false throne, and I think they're going

452
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to see a bit more of that again. Perhaps there

453
00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:27.359
<v Speaker 1>was some hangover last year, so maybe they're not quite

454
00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.519
<v Speaker 1>as bad. But I've got the Rangers on seventy nine

455
00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>at the moment, and then rounding out, I've got the Athletics.

456
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Athletics have spent you know, they have definitely improved their team.

457
00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone can argue that. And so this

458
00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Athletics team is I think I may have been slightly

459
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:44.759
<v Speaker 1>stingy at hitting them on eighty one, but I've got them,

460
00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>got them at five hundred, where I think they have

461
00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>really pulled their socks up. And this is a team

462
00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that was a disaster and absolute disaster a couple of

463
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and they have chipped away, they've improved, they've

464
00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>spent money. Despite the whole rest of their saga with

465
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>their stadium, I think they're on the way back. So

466
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<v Speaker 1>I've given the Athletics eighty one this time. Gab, what

467
00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:08.079
<v Speaker 1>do you got? Well?

468
00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:11.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think we're we're fine on the Angels, aren't we?

469
00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:14.880
<v Speaker 2>With all the same on that roughly, And I think

470
00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:20.200
<v Speaker 2>we're roughly the same on the Mariners. Yeah, the Astros

471
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.480
<v Speaker 2>have got winning the division. Maybe if I'd saved a

472
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:25.559
<v Speaker 2>couple of wins elsewhere I would have had them at ninety.

473
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Texas Rangers are much further behind.

474
00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I think if everything goes right for the Rangers, then

475
00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:34.799
<v Speaker 2>they could win the division. I am still a bit

476
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.720
<v Speaker 2>scarred from the abuse we got last year when we

477
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.240
<v Speaker 2>predicted that the Rangers, the World Series champions, would not

478
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.640
<v Speaker 2>make the playoffs and they didn't. But yeah, I don't

479
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.559
<v Speaker 2>think there was a need for all of that abuse

480
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>on social media. But the big one, the big one

481
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>is thee Athletics. Come on, guys, They're not They're not

482
00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 2>going to five hundred team. They are dreadful. They're a

483
00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:02.759
<v Speaker 2>dreadful team who have luckily, you know, they've just flung

484
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.039
<v Speaker 2>loads of mud at the wall and some of it's stuck.

485
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 2>And they've got a few good players with Bla Day

486
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:12.640
<v Speaker 2>and Butler and Brent Rooker who have turned from players

487
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>that other teams didn't really want into usable, decent players.

488
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.319
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they've just got a couple of innings eaters

489
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:26.440
<v Speaker 2>in the rotation. I can't see them winning eighty games.

490
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the method has worked. Like the Athletics

491
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:34.640
<v Speaker 3>have done. What Chicago White Dogs haven't done right now

492
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 3>is that basically they just let a load of young

493
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 3>players or let a load of players that we don't

494
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 3>know play and kept the ones that have done well.

495
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 3>This is the first season where they've then actually added

496
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 3>some talent. We've all got no idea what's actually going

497
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 3>to happen at Sacramento. I think it's probably going to

498
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 3>be a bit of a hitters park, and I think

499
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.319
<v Speaker 3>they've got good hitters, which and I think the fact

500
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 3>of playing in a triple A stadium, their pictures will

501
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 3>get used to it, whereas I think the the teams

502
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 3>will do it less often and not get used to

503
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:06.279
<v Speaker 3>what that stadium is like and what kind of For me,

504
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:08.799
<v Speaker 3>that means that, like, I've given them a few extra

505
00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 3>wins that I think is probably like the consensus is

506
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.720
<v Speaker 3>probably in that mid seventies range. But I could come

507
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.359
<v Speaker 3>down like two or three off them. If you're willing.

508
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.599
<v Speaker 1>To come back to me, I could drop two to

509
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 1>towards GAV. I could do that. Youre willing to come

510
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 1>up to seventy eight nine, seventy nine, Well, I guess

511
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that response means that we'll start this as we have

512
00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:33.039
<v Speaker 1>is calling another tie break.

513
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think let's put sixty nine in for the

514
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 3>for the Angels first, Yeah, agree, eighty two on the Mariners.

515
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 3>If you guys are happy or eighty one? Happy with that,

516
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:43.279
<v Speaker 3>we do eighty two.

517
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>On the Man. They were also fairly fairly close on

518
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the Astros. Have you around that kind of war?

519
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:52.119
<v Speaker 2>I just go up on the Astros.

520
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eighty eight, eighty nine, eighty nine I think sounds

521
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah in the middle of the Astrods, and then I

522
00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>think the couple more tie breaks to happen. Okay, Athletic Athletics.

523
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't like about the Athletics is that their fans

524
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>are just such wine as an't they?

525
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Gab, you're trying to get us seriously,

526
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it's run on the internet, jesus.

527
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go to Las Vegas.

528
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

529
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of the Disneyland holiday, when you know

530
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the kids didn't want to go away for a weekend

531
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.599
<v Speaker 2>excursion that we're trying to book. I don't know.

532
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Gav's religating some past traumas. Now ye sorry,

533
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>sorry because of stout Gav or something.

534
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Which team we do?

535
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Athletics the sprint speed, sprint speed, Good Lord, Russ start

536
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 1>looking up Sprince Beat. I'm going to spin the wheel

537
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>right and hope that none of these players have been

538
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>traded since I put the spreadsheet together. Right, we are

539
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 1>looking for the sprint speed of Seth Brown. I will

540
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>go first. I reckon Seth Brown is a person who

541
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:18.599
<v Speaker 1>is going to be relatively fast. I'm going to say,

542
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 1>are we doing this in per second?

543
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:21.839
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you do it in foot per second? And

544
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you that the league average is twenty seven.

545
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you that as a context. Okay, thank you.

546
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go twenty eight point five feet per second,

547
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.759
<v Speaker 1>gav russ Or you want me to go next? Yeah? Good, Next,

548
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to go league average twenty seven. Go.

549
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I think he's very slow, so I'm going to go

550
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty four four.

551
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 1>What's their answer, than Russky. Isn't that pooh hoole speed?

552
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't kill per second?

553
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

554
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty five?

555
00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 3>For goodness sake, Okay, Seth Brown in at twenty seven

556
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 3>point four foot per second?

557
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>So you then, russ that's me. So we get to

558
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 1>have an eighty one win. Athletics wasn't real, effact. That

559
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>was also my prediction. So gabas always done the back

560
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>for that one. Yeah, well, we get to have two

561
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.839
<v Speaker 1>versus one because two of we thought it was going

562
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.759
<v Speaker 1>to be right, So then we move on to the

563
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>other one. They're probably the most divisive in the league

564
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 1>for us. We've got the Rangers. I am currently sat

565
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>on seventy nine, Gavin is on eighty four, and Russell

566
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 1>has predicted ninety wins for the Rangers. I think we're

567
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 1>desperately far apart here. I can see nothing other than

568
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 1>the tiebreak situation here again, are we all in agreement

569
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>on that?

570
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Sure?

571
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Yep? Okay, right? So what am I got? Then? I'm

572
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>going to say how far away they live from Swindon? Sorry,

573
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>how far away they were born from Swindon. Let's do

574
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 1>that because that's easier to work out where they were

575
00:29:57.799 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>born rather than where they live.

576
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.759
<v Speaker 2>It's Swindon Wiltshire or Swindon, Nebraska.

577
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Swindon Wiltshire because this is a British podcast. So right,

578
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So the player we are we're we're we're guessing about

579
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>here is Sean Armstrong. Does Sean arms Strong play for

580
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the for the Rangers? Yeah? Still place where the technis Rangers? Okay, right,

581
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I can say that we're see his place of birth.

582
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 1>Let's look that up for so he was born in Newbern,

583
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina.

584
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's an easy one. So that is gonna

585
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>be Newburn, right, Okay, so that's that's gonna be three thousand,

586
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.119
<v Speaker 2>nine hundred and fifty miles.

587
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I will go with six hundred square, four thousand,

588
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>six hundred. What did you say?

589
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Three nine five? O?

590
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Three in four nine. Then have the on the

591
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>first one.

592
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I did, Yeah, I know.

593
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 1>It's three and a half thousand from London to New York.

594
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>So new but new Bern, North Carolina. Right, And the

595
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 1>answer is three thousand, seven hundred and seventy four miles.

596
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>We get a nineteen range. I'm never gonna win any

597
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of these, am I? Okay? What? So there we have it.

598
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Then we have we have the Texas Rangers, apparently winning

599
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 1>against my better judgment, ninety games for the for the

600
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 1>AL West twenty twenty five seasons. So they're complete our

601
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>AL West. Bringing up the bottom, we all agree, we've

602
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>got the Angels on sixty nine. Next up, we are

603
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>saying the Athletics are going to win eighty one games.

604
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>The Mariners are barely going to break five hundred and

605
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:58.759
<v Speaker 1>eighty two games. The Astros are going to take eighty

606
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 1>nine games from the year, and then the Rangers are

607
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 1>going to win the division. Despite us all saying that

608
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>they were not as good as we all thought they were,

609
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>They're going to win the division with ninety games. So

610
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 1>that there, there you have it. That's the AL West. Okay,

611
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I am going to take the NL East. Lest Let's

612
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>do the NL East next. I'll start us off then,

613
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>so NL East. I reckon big bounce back guys. They've

614
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:25.359
<v Speaker 1>always had the talent and they should be at the top.

615
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I reckon the Braves, the Land of Braves are going

616
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to come out and they're going to thump ninety seven

617
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>games here. They're going to be back to what what

618
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>they should have been if they hadn't had the disastrous

619
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 1>injuries of last year. You know, could you know set

620
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>seven wins, you know, seven eight wins of injuries. I

621
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 1>think they easily could have had those last year. So yeah,

622
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I reckon ninety seven wins for the Braves. Phillies. I

623
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>reckon the Phillies are gonna gonna keep on a hammering

624
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 1>out where they are there. They are a very very

625
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 1>good team. There's plenty to them. They've got great pitching,

626
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 1>They've got some absolute thump with their bats. Maybe some

627
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 1>questions over the bullpedder been answered over the last few years,

628
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 1>but but that variance there, I think there's still still

629
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 1>something to worry about there. So I've got the Phillies

630
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 1>still doing very very well on ninety two wins. Next up, right,

631
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>slap bang in the middle. I've got the Mets because

632
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 1>despite despite the fact they spilt all that money, they're

633
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 1>still the Mets. I still think they're gonna Mets Mets

634
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the division, and they're barely going to break break halfway

635
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.359
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna they're only gonna win eighty two games.

636
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Getting down to the bottom end, I don't think there's

637
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 1>much variance here between us, as there shouldn't be. The

638
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Nationals are going to be poor on seventy four seventy

639
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>four games. There's there's nothing really there. They haven't come

640
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>on far there there. They're great package they got back

641
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>from the Padres has been fine. I don't think they've

642
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 1>been spectacular like they sort of needed to be for

643
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the exchange of so Too and then dropping it to

644
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 1>the bottom is going to be the Marlins. I've got

645
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>them on seventy two which could be a little bit generous.

646
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I have how's your How's your ner East, So I've.

647
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Got the bravest and the Phillies both at the top,

648
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, thinking about it now, the Braves have got

649
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:10.000
<v Speaker 2>stryder coming back in a kuna coming back, and yeah,

650
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.800
<v Speaker 2>you made a good point about the Phillies bullpen and

651
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.119
<v Speaker 2>really they don't. It was a bit at dodgy last

652
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 2>year and it's I think it's it's far worse now.

653
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>So maybe even though I like Philadelphia the best to

654
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 2>win the World Series out of the everyone in that division,

655
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe the Braves will finish top. I think

656
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 2>a very very very very generous with the Marlins.

657
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Got the Marlins on them.

658
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I've got sixty two, and I think that's generous. The Nationals,

659
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 2>I think we're about saying, and the Mets are they're

660
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>quite a high variance team. They've they've really suffered with

661
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the couple of pitching injuries, having got rid of Severino

662
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 2>and who else did they get rid of last year? Anyway,

663
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>they got rid of two two of their main starters

664
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 2>from last year, so they've lost a lot of innings

665
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and now they've lost Montes and Manaiah so they're already

666
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 2>struggling a bit. Yes, Soto makes such a big difference

667
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 2>to that team and could mean that Alonso hitting behind Soto,

668
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Alonzo could have an MVP caliber season. I don't think

669
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.719
<v Speaker 2>he will. I think probably he'll be as poor as

670
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>he was last year. But so they're quite high variants.

671
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I've got them just on eighty eight. I think that's everyone,

672
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>isn't it.

673
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Russ Russ, Yeah, I kind of chickened out on

674
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.239
<v Speaker 3>making a decision here.

675
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 1>I put them all on ninety.

676
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Like, I think there are three quite high variant teams here,

677
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 3>but I think they're all good. I think they will

678
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 3>be good. The Braves last season showed kind of how

679
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>paul that underbelly is if they kind of don't have

680
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.760
<v Speaker 3>everything go their way. Yes, they still just about made

681
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs, But like them going back to being a

682
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 3>ninety five ninety seven when team relies on everybody, going

683
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.400
<v Speaker 3>back to the level that we saw two seasons ago,

684
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.800
<v Speaker 3>which I got no idea what a Kenyon is going

685
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 3>to be able to do, given in fact that he's

686
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 3>had injuries to both his legs now or whatever, and

687
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 3>we haven't really seen what we can get back from Strider,

688
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.079
<v Speaker 3>so I'll be a little pessimistic on them before I

689
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of see something that from a lineup perspective, I'll

690
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 3>love it.

691
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really good. I think they're a good, good,

692
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 1>strong line up again, but of depth is not the

693
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>thing Mets.

694
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 3>We can talk about their pitching not being in the

695
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 3>position they would want it to be, but it wasn't

696
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 3>in that position last season either, Like they had no

697
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 3>Singer for most of last season. They've got him starting,

698
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Clay Holmes, who knows what he can actually have many

699
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 3>innings he's going to pitch. But it's look pretty phenomenal

700
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:45.119
<v Speaker 3>doing that sort of thing.

701
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And just Soda is just an unbelievable ad.

702
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:51.679
<v Speaker 3>We can talk about it for so many days or whatever,

703
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 3>but I genuinely do believe that Lindor in front of

704
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Soda will see more pitches, and I think all on

705
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:02.159
<v Speaker 3>so after lind Or will see more pitches because of

706
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Sodo being there, and they both should be the position

707
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.519
<v Speaker 3>to take advantage of it. Nationals are solid, meth They've

708
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:11.599
<v Speaker 3>got a good couple of players, They're not going to

709
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 3>be in goodtention. I don't think they've really got many

710
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 3>people to flip either. So that's why I'm just put

711
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 3>them as solid thirty two. Anna Marlins might adult flip

712
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 3>anybody who plays well, so they're getting sixty five wins

713
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 3>because they're probably actually a seventy win team right now.

714
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 3>But whoever plays well on that team and isn't young

715
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 3>is getting traded. So because this isn't their year, and

716
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.239
<v Speaker 3>probably even next year is in their year, they're thinking

717
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 3>much further down the line, So anybody is good going

718
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.400
<v Speaker 3>to get traded. So yeah, that's the only reason why

719
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably in the in the sixties for the Marlins

720
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 3>are not actually at like seventy odd.

721
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, So what I'm hearing is Russell could be

722
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>talked up to me on the Marlins. But we'll come

723
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 1>back to that because there's there's some some divisive this there.

724
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of places we clearly agree here. So

725
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 1>the Phillies we are all hovering around ninety one, so

726
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fair. So Russell's got ninety, gav Is

727
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 1>ninety one. I'm saying ninety two, So I'm happy to

728
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>meet the middle there and say ninety one. I think

729
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that's fair for the Phillies equally, the Nationals that are

730
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.280
<v Speaker 1>just just bad. They're not spectacular bad. They're not gonna

731
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>make it to five hundred, and RUSS are on seventy two.

732
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I've got seventy four, happy to meet the middle on

733
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>seventy three. If we all agree on that one, yeah, good, lovely, Right,

734
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:24.280
<v Speaker 1>then we come to a few divisiveness spits's, and I

735
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.159
<v Speaker 1>seem to be the outlier here. Let's start with the

736
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Marlins at the bottom. Then I've got seventy two saying

737
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 1>sixty two. Russell is saying sixty five. But he's saying

738
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that that is based on them trading people away if

739
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 1>they're any good. I would say to counter that is

740
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 1>that do the Marlins have any players that are any good?

741
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Is there anybody to trade away? Or is it an

742
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 1>entirely meh team that really isn't gonna have all that

743
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>much to trade at the deadline, So they actually may

744
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>well stay fairly fairly put. And that's that's why I

745
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.599
<v Speaker 1>think RUSS should come up closer to me around the

746
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 1>sort of seventy mark.

747
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Sandy Alcantara is the only one that they've really got

748
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 2>to trade.

749
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Old floppy elbow, right, yeah, next, But.

750
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Even if they do, they're going to get a bag

751
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>of balls for it, aren't they They they don't seem

752
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 2>to be able to capitalize on trading the way the stars.

753
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:32.199
<v Speaker 3>So cal Countrill, you've got Anthony Bender, either of those

754
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 3>like has a half decent season.

755
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>They're not They're not on the mark. They're not on

756
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>this Marlins teams that makes the future like probably even

757
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:41.760
<v Speaker 1>like Ryan whny wins, are they gonna cost you if

758
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>they get traded though? I mean really.

759
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But I'm saying like all it takes is one

760
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.639
<v Speaker 3>of these pictures to be like a two win picture

761
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:53.559
<v Speaker 3>and they're gone. And so like I think, Rob, you

762
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 3>should be really coming down to us in like the

763
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 3>in the high sixties.

764
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll capitulate. Okay, let's can I can I tease

765
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you with us sixty six? Yeah, that's fly by me, Gav.

766
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I could come from sixty two. I could go up

767
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:08.760
<v Speaker 2>to sixty four.

768
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, meet in the middle sixty five. So Russ

769
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>all along, yes, right, all along? Thank you? He calculated that. Yeah,

770
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna we're going to meet there on sixty five.

771
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>So maybe I've been a little bit bullish on the Braves.

772
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>But again, the other one that I this time, I'm

773
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.519
<v Speaker 1>going to pick on Gav. I said ninety seven for

774
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the Braves. Gav said ninety one, and Russell has said ninety.

775
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>But Gavin was saying, yeah, there's you know, there's some

776
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>agreement here in that maybe the Phillies bullpens a bit

777
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.599
<v Speaker 1>if he which is why they're not going to be

778
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.119
<v Speaker 1>quite up with them, and perhaps the Braves were particularly

779
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 1>injured last year, which they were so, so could you

780
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 1>perhaps be talked up on the Braves coming closer to

781
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 1>my ninety seven.

782
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I would have been able to if you hadn't taken

783
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 2>all of those wins and given them to Miami. There's

784
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:58.519
<v Speaker 2>not enough wins to go round.

785
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>So Russell, any budge, I'm not going up to ninety seven.

786
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 3>I could do like ninety two maybe, but but I'm

787
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 3>not going up to ninety seven.

788
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm ninety two is too low for me. I think

789
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have to all right, let's let's let's

790
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:18.840
<v Speaker 1>do the Braves. I'm calling a tie break on the Braves.

791
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I think we initially decided there's gonna be a number

792
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>of tie breaks we could have, but that's gone straight

793
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>out the window. So right, what what what should we

794
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>do for the braves. Let's have more potential tiebreakers. What's that?

795
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Can I choose one or up? Okay, fine, you could

796
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>do the tie break. Fine, all right, I was calling it,

797
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>but no problems. It's all yours. What do you want

798
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to do? Braves pitched innings pitched right season, career innings

799
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 1>pitched last season. Do you want me to include position players?

800
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's say no? Okay, right, okay, So I'm getting up

801
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:02.320
<v Speaker 1>our list of braves. We spin the wheel. Where's it

802
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna land? Dylan Lee. Dylan Lee is a human. I

803
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.320
<v Speaker 1>have definitely heard of Dylan. Give you some contection. He

804
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.599
<v Speaker 1>is a relief pitcher. If that helped that much. I

805
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 1>was aware of Dylan Lee, and he's been around for

806
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 1>many few some years. Should have about.

807
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll get the ball rolling. I will say twenty one innings.

808
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm pretty cerain. He pitched the entire season, so

809
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say sixty three.

810
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I reckon he was a workhorse that I've never heard of,

811
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's pitched seventy innings.

812
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:49.159
<v Speaker 3>Russell what we got, But Dylan Lee has fifty nine

813
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 3>point two innings.

814
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Pitch Russell again, Russell is good at this isn't he yes, well,

815
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.559
<v Speaker 1>just so he could have just been completely lying.

816
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you could go with that. So the Braves are

817
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:06.119
<v Speaker 3>a ninety win team, there, you Gough. I think that

818
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 3>you're doing them a massive disservice. Okay, and then the Mets.

819
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Was the last team in this division, so well we

820
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>got we got Gavin leading. Sorry, no, Russell is leading

821
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the way with ninety wins for the Mets. Gavin is

822
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.639
<v Speaker 1>second with eighty eight wins for the Mets. I admit

823
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 1>I have been stingy on eighty two wins for the Mets,

824
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>so I am willing to come up to eighty seven.

825
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 2>You don't think they'll be closer to their braves than

826
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the Phillies.

827
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I really don't. I think the Braves are

828
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 1>head and shoulders above the rest of this division. I

829
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.119
<v Speaker 1>think the Phillies are fine, but they're going to throw

830
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:38.559
<v Speaker 1>away a lot of games right at the back end.

831
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the Mets have a couple of good hitters

832
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and the rest of it's just going to met.

833
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 2>You can't risk a tie break just for the sake

834
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 2>of coming up to eighty eight or eighty nine.

835
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Surely, all the way up to eighty seven, I have

836
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:56.280
<v Speaker 1>moved a long way there, gave you're on eighty seven.

837
00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Now I have, so that's always to myself. Seven, I'm

838
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight. So you might as well say eighty nine.

839
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, eighty seven. We've got two eighty sevens gab, we're

840
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:12.599
<v Speaker 1>rounding on you in a corner. Now eighty seven.

841
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Eighty eight doesn't bother me.

842
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Eighty seven is there? We go? Right? So how you

843
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Speaker 1>do that, master negotiator? He nearly had me right, So Thel, sorry,

844
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 1>NL East. We've got the Phillies winning with ninety one wins,

845
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>We've got the Braves coming second with ninety wins. The

846
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Mets are going to get eighty seven wins, a long

847
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>way ahead of the Nationals on seventy three wins, and

848
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>then the Marlins are going to be dwelling right at

849
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the bottom with sixty five wins. Russell pick us another division.

850
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Let's we might as well finish off the NL Roger

851
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Dodger Dodgers. Indeed, okay, Russ, do you want to John

852
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>run us down? Then start us off with the NL West. Yeah.

853
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 3>So I think we basically have potential the greatest lineup

854
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.280
<v Speaker 3>of all time and the greatest pitching depths of all

855
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.800
<v Speaker 3>time that Major League Baseball has ever seen. I don't

856
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.039
<v Speaker 3>think I could quite predict that they were actually going

857
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 3>to beat them Marlin's record, but.

858
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty close.

859
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't think much of the Rockies. That's a fairly

860
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.039
<v Speaker 3>easy decision to make. And I'm not really certain that

861
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 3>the Giants and the Padres and the d Backs are

862
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 3>that great teams either. So I just think this Dodgers

863
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 3>team is going to rock a lot of people and

864
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna easily win this division. One hundred and seven

865
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 3>is a bit of a is a bit of a

866
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.400
<v Speaker 3>punt to that. I'm really saying that they're going to

867
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 3>be one of the best teams in baseball history.

868
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 1>But otherwise I've got three mediocre teams in the middle that.

869
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I think the Giants probably all worst, but I'm not

870
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 3>certain of that, and I kind of just think that

871
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.599
<v Speaker 3>the Padres and the d Backs will be fighting for

872
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.800
<v Speaker 3>wild card places. So yeah, that's my view of the NL.

873
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>West numbers are giving us. Then, so Dodgers are going

874
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.079
<v Speaker 1>to say one hundred and seven.

875
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.159
<v Speaker 3>One hundred and seven winners for the Dodgers, eighty four

876
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:03.559
<v Speaker 3>wins for the d Backs, and the Padres, Giants with

877
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 3>eighty one and the Rockies with sixty.

878
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, Garvin, then what's what's your NL West look like?

879
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I changed the Dodgers from ninety nine to one hundred

880
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 2>because I had an extra win to give to someone

881
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and it was either give it to the Dodgers or

882
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 2>take it off the White Sox. I do think that

883
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 2>there is and it hasn't been helped by the two

884
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.800
<v Speaker 2>games we've just seen, but I do think there's a

885
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 2>bit of this the Emperor's New clothes with the Dodgers.

886
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they are historically great scene. The rotation

887
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 2>is great. The three top of the lineup when they're

888
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 2>healthy are absolutely fabulous. But let's get realistic. Tourney's had

889
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.840
<v Speaker 2>a few injuries. Freddy really struggled. He was fantastic in

890
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. This is Freddy Freeman. He was fantastic in

891
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, but we didn't know if he could could

892
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 2>run then, and he and Betts have already missed this series.

893
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Betts is trying to move is what thirty two thirty three,

894
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>and he's trying to move to short stop. So there

895
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:11.079
<v Speaker 2>are injuries to be had there, and then you take

896
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 2>one or two of those out of the lineup and yeah,

897
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>they can mix a match. Yeah, it's like Andrew Friedman

898
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>is doing what he did at Tampa Bay, but he's

899
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.159
<v Speaker 2>doing it with money. Because no one really thinks that

900
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Kiki and Andez or Edmund or p Haz or Tioska

901
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 2>are really that or Tiosca maybe, but they're not great players,

902
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 2>but they do get the best out of them. So

903
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I would be surprised they didn't win a hundred last year.

904
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I'd be surprised if they won one hundred this year.

905
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 2>But I've put them down for a hundred. I think

906
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 2>the Arizona Diamondbacks are going to give them a run

907
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 2>for the money. I don't think they'll win the division,

908
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 2>but I think they could take them in the playoffs

909
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.599
<v Speaker 2>or go further in the playoffs. The fact that you've

910
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.079
<v Speaker 2>got Corbyn Burns coming to you saying I want to

911
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 2>pitch for you because I I'm from Arizona, that's it's

912
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 2>just such a fabulous bonus for them. I can't really

913
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 2>pick between the Potres and the Giants. Patres seem to

914
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 2>have more, more talent, more quality. And yeah, the Rockies

915
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 2>are just gonna rookie, aren't they.

916
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, the Rockies are going to Rocky. But I

917
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think the Rockies are going to Rocky that hard,

918
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:32.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, I reckon there's there's I've been generous for

919
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 1>the sixty nine wins. They're probably a couple less than that.

920
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 1>But I think I'm in the similar, sort of similar

921
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of region to gab there who you said sixty

922
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:44.920
<v Speaker 1>three for the Rockies, I can see here Giants, I'm

923
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:48.960
<v Speaker 1>an agreement already yet. Absolutely we're We're about about five

924
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 1>hundred for that, so we can pretty much lock that

925
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>one in straight away that the Giants are fine. You know,

926
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with that team, but there's nothing particularly

927
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.360
<v Speaker 1>brilliant about it either. I really really like the addition

928
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:01.360
<v Speaker 1>of Willia Dahmon. I think he's gonna he's gonna be

929
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a big, big plus for them. But beyond that, there's

930
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 1>nothing really really exciting me about about anything new with

931
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:09.679
<v Speaker 1>the Giants to think they can be anything better than

932
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 1>last year. I reckon the Padres are gonna be better.

933
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.079
<v Speaker 1>I reckon the Padres are a great team. I reckon

934
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they are right bang in the middle of turbulence at

935
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the moment. I think this is a team that a

936
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, we were all predicting to beat

937
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers, win one hundred and two games, you know,

938
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and do the business. I think, yeah, there's been a

939
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>couple of subtractions, which is why I'm not saying they're

940
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna win one hundred games. But I think that same

941
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Padres team right now is sat amongst a club in turmoil,

942
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and that can do one of two things. They can

943
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>they can go down the pan and they can be terrible,

944
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.039
<v Speaker 1>or they can kind of get that sort of struggle

945
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.199
<v Speaker 1>against adversity nobody believed in us cliche, and I really

946
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>think they got that because they've got the players there,

947
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 1>they've got they've got the staff to really make a

948
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.119
<v Speaker 1>go of it. So I've got the Padres in ninety

949
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>two because we are not far detached from them being

950
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>predicted to be a great team and then their owner died.

951
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:06.760
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm in on the Padres probably a bit

952
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:10.599
<v Speaker 1>higher than you two the d Backs again, yeah, solidly

953
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 1>eighty five. I'm with you on that, and then I

954
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 1>am team GAB when it comes to the Dodgers prediction.

955
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I've got one hundred as well, and for the exact

956
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 1>same reasons. There's far too much James Autman playing on

957
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that team to call them, you know, one of the

958
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:29.119
<v Speaker 1>best teams of all time. You know, like after that

959
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>first three or four guys, that lineup is going to

960
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>be okay. Now, yeah, but they may well hit it.

961
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm still predicting one hundred wins. You know, these

962
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>this is still going to be a brilliant team. I

963
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.320
<v Speaker 1>just don't think they're gonna be you know, dropped to

964
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>your knees and worship brilliant. Yeah, I can see that.

965
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I just think that people underestimate how actually having okay

966
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 3>from like five to nine actually makes a difference. And

967
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm not being bad like that, like some of those teams,

968
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.320
<v Speaker 3>like we'd look at the Braves six and on the

969
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Braves is shocking like that, like that is what's going

970
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 3>to like hurt them in all of the games. I

971
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.119
<v Speaker 3>just we saw basically the Dodgers win two games against

972
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:11.320
<v Speaker 3>the Cubs without probably the second and third best hitter.

973
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:14.239
<v Speaker 3>So I just think that depth is like I'm fine

974
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.159
<v Speaker 3>to be brought down to kind of like if people,

975
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 3>if you were.

976
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Give me one hundred and two, would you go see

977
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I can do one hundred and two. I would prefer

978
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and one, but I could do one hundred

979
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and two. Yav how do you feel about the Dodgers?

980
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:28.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that is one hell of a hell

981
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of a rotation, isn't.

982
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:30.880
<v Speaker 2>It what they win last year?

983
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Eight? Or no?

984
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.280
<v Speaker 2>They weren't a hundred win team last year. If they

985
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:40.920
<v Speaker 2>were last year, we'll say one hundred and two. If not,

986
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:41.840
<v Speaker 2>we're saying one hundred.

987
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:48.639
<v Speaker 1>I like it. And the answer is they won ninety

988
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.159
<v Speaker 1>eight games, giving.

989
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Them two extra alan more.

990
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 1>So come on, we meeting them one hundred and one.

991
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's go one hundred and one. They are damn

992
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.800
<v Speaker 1>good team. My statement has been noted, but I'll give

993
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.440
<v Speaker 1>you one hundred and one hundred one for the Dodgers, right, okay,

994
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.840
<v Speaker 1>So where do we definitely agree? So? Okay, the Giants,

995
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah, you guys have both got eighty one

996
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:11.800
<v Speaker 1>for the Giants. I had at eighty. So yeah, I'm

997
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 1>happy to come to eighty one with you guys. There's

998
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>there's no arguing there. That's that's absolutely fine. D Backs,

999
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.199
<v Speaker 1>we're all pretty close on We've got Russell on eighty four,

1000
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 1>gave on eighty nine a bit higher, and then I

1001
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>am on eighty five. I think we're all similar there, gave.

1002
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Are you willing to come down a little bit on them?

1003
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Or are you that that keen that the are that good?

1004
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I think out of all of the teams, all thirty teams,

1005
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.239
<v Speaker 2>so the ones, they're the one that I'm most confident about.

1006
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so you're gonna call break.

1007
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm quite happy for you. Tuans come up to eighty eight?

1008
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight? I can I can talk about eighty seven? No, no, no, fine?

1009
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:56.960
<v Speaker 1>All right? Shall we should we tie break the d backs? Sure? Okay,

1010
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 1>it's it's your tie break. Have so pick us something

1011
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna use to pull them apart.

1012
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Plate appearances last season, late appearances excellent?

1013
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, And whilst Russell cheats and looks up how many

1014
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>plate appearances they all had.

1015
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think cheated in anything in his life.

1016
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 1>I know he just cheats by having the biggest brain.

1017
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.239
<v Speaker 1>The wheel is spinning, it is spinning, and we have

1018
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Lords Gurriel Junior, Lord Guriel Junior. Plate appearances last year.

1019
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I will stick my neck out. Then I'm gonna say

1020
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:35.199
<v Speaker 1>plate appearances of it wasn't there the whole year? Was he?

1021
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1022
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Say? Was he the whole year.

1023
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was traded the year before.

1024
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was injured for a for a substantial

1025
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 1>on the al, he might have been injured, but on

1026
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the sorry, not the al. Okay, I'm gonna say. I'm

1027
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna drop it as much. I'm gonna say three hundred

1028
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and twenty five plate appearances.

1029
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Lord Is Curiel Junior? Yeah, he definitely had some time injured.

1030
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:00.519
<v Speaker 3>So what were looking at?

1031
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I s think four sixty or sixty?

1032
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Galv I reckon higher?

1033
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Four eighty eight. Okay, what we've got, gav er Rous, Sorry,

1034
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the middle of my draft. Four fifty That's

1035
00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:18.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm looking at.

1036
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:23.079
<v Speaker 3>Who know is Courriel Junior? Five hundred and fifty three?

1037
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh de Lordie? Pretty much?

1038
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Wow, he missed like he played one hundred and thirty

1039
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 3>three games, but he must have played pretty much all

1040
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.719
<v Speaker 3>of those all of the abs in those one hundred

1041
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:31.559
<v Speaker 3>and thirty three games.

1042
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:38.079
<v Speaker 1>So to gav w Yeah, yeah, I can't argue that

1043
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>is eighty nine wins for the d Backs. Okay, right, Padres,

1044
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you guys are very very close. Eighty four and eighty three.

1045
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I am much higher. Have I have I convinced either

1046
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 1>of you that there is something in maybe a win

1047
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.800
<v Speaker 1>or two, and okay, I'm conceiving I'm too high, But

1048
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:56.960
<v Speaker 1>am I maybe a win or two? Have I managed

1049
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to convince you that the Padres are better than you

1050
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 1>guys have put basically a five hundred team with all

1051
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 1>that talent.

1052
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I reckon. Maybe I was a little bit unfair

1053
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.679
<v Speaker 2>on eighty three, and I could give them an extra

1054
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.480
<v Speaker 2>couple of wins. I don't think the fact that we

1055
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 2>thought that they were going to contend with the Dodgers

1056
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.119
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago and then their owners died,

1057
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that really has that much beering on it.

1058
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 2>They've still given away a lot of talent and after

1059
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:30.880
<v Speaker 2>seasoned King and Pervetta, Yeah, you can see it's a decent,

1060
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:36.760
<v Speaker 2>decent lineup. Yeah, I could go to eighty five, eighty six.

1061
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I could take eighty six. I admit I've been I've

1062
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 1>been a little bit hasty here. Eighty six it is

1063
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>how you're feeling about the Padres. Eighty six great, lovely.

1064
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And then last of all, we've got the Rockies. You

1065
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.400
<v Speaker 1>two have been absolutely hitting down on the Rockies, saying

1066
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:55.679
<v Speaker 1>sixty wins and sixty three wins. I've got sixty nine wins.

1067
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:58.599
<v Speaker 1>I think you've been stingy again. I've maybe been a

1068
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 1>little bit over the top. But I'm not going to

1069
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>shove much further down on the Rockies. I I you know,

1070
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I still think there's there's something a bit weird about

1071
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 1>the Rockies. You just can't predict it. There's going to

1072
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.079
<v Speaker 1>be something coming out of there, you know. So I

1073
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:14.599
<v Speaker 1>could come down to sixty seven, but no lower tiebreaker.

1074
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Find such a such a tricky team because I like

1075
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:19.519
<v Speaker 2>so many of their players, and so many of their

1076
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 2>players seem really good, and then when you look at

1077
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.679
<v Speaker 2>the like w RC plus or something, they're not really

1078
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.039
<v Speaker 2>that good at all. So yeah, I could go sixty seven.

1079
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going that high. Russell Nope, not in a job. Fine, right,

1080
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and then Russell pick as a tiebreaker.

1081
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I want wild pitchers, ill pitches, wild pictures.

1082
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>That means we need pictures, wild pitchures. I'm going to

1083
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 1>tell you already I know about three of these guys.

1084
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right at the point, like none of us know,

1085
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:00.679
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know how anybody, I mean well pitches

1086
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:01.800
<v Speaker 3>anybody through last season.

1087
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So okay, we're looking for who is that? Okay, so

1088
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:13.039
<v Speaker 1>wild pitchers are Ryan Feltner. Ryan Feltner, Okay, that was six. Okay,

1089
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, uh, he barely pitched in three, six

1090
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and three. I'll take I should I'll take seven then,

1091
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 1>so I've got the over. That's how this works.

1092
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 4>Who right fell there through four wild pitchers. So Rob,

1093
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, yes, there we go, Thank you very much.

1094
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 4>I finally feel vindicated for this game.

1095
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely wonderful, brilliant. Okay, Gab, big pick us where we're

1096
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>going for our second to last division? Sorry, recap there, Sorry,

1097
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:57.119
<v Speaker 1>my apologies. Quickly recap there. So the NL West is

1098
00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:59.199
<v Speaker 1>going to be won by the Dodgers and one hundred

1099
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and one wins. The d Backs is gonna come second

1100
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>with eighty nine wins. San Diego is gonna have eighty

1101
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.079
<v Speaker 1>six wins, hitting five hundred is going to be the

1102
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Giants on eighty one wins, and the Rockies are gonna

1103
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.159
<v Speaker 1>do much better than everyone thought they were gonna do

1104
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna hit sixty nine wins to finish up

1105
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:17.599
<v Speaker 1>the season. That's a right old West. So Gab where

1106
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:18.079
<v Speaker 1>we're going to go.

1107
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.199
<v Speaker 2>We'll go to the ale least we haven't done that,

1108
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 2>have we?

1109
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>American League East we still have to do the American

1110
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:28.679
<v Speaker 1>League East. Okay, So Gab, do you want to do?

1111
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>You want to take us through the American League East? Then?

1112
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>And where you think we're going with these? Yeah?

1113
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:34.800
<v Speaker 2>So this you could you could just throw it up

1114
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.320
<v Speaker 2>in the air and they could come down in any

1115
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.880
<v Speaker 2>order and I'd still be happy with it. I have

1116
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:42.920
<v Speaker 2>no idea what's going to happen here. So I've got

1117
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Boston and Baltimore with eighty eight. I've got the Yankees

1118
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:50.199
<v Speaker 2>one ahead with eighty nine. I've got the Blue Jays

1119
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 2>with eighty four, and the Tampa Bay Rays with eighty two.

1120
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.400
<v Speaker 2>The way I'm looking at it is that the Orioles,

1121
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>they just frustrate me so much that they have an

1122
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:07.159
<v Speaker 2>incredible team. I think all of them are projected to

1123
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:12.159
<v Speaker 2>be above one hundred WRC plus yet and this is

1124
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:14.159
<v Speaker 2>an incredible window they've got where they're not paying that

1125
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.360
<v Speaker 2>much for so many of these players. Yet they let Ord.

1126
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.119
<v Speaker 2>They didn't let Corbyn Burns go. Corbyn Burns went and

1127
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 2>then they replaced him with Charlie Morton. I think there

1128
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:27.199
<v Speaker 2>were probably better options if they'd decided to spend a

1129
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 2>bit of money. So, yeah, they have the potential, but

1130
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they have the pitching. I think the

1131
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Red Sox are much better than they were last year.

1132
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it's amazing what forty million dollar player does

1133
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:48.079
<v Speaker 2>to the lineup. But Bregman does make a big difference

1134
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:50.360
<v Speaker 2>in there, I think, and it's sort of lifted the

1135
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:55.000
<v Speaker 2>spirits of the whole franchise, it seems so. Then Duran

1136
00:59:55.079 --> 01:00:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Duran having another great season, and Devas getting little stop.

1137
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a really good lineup. They've managed to

1138
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:08.719
<v Speaker 2>look okay despite having lost a couple of I think

1139
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:13.519
<v Speaker 2>they've lost three starters now already, but yeah, getting the

1140
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:16.760
<v Speaker 2>new guys in there, that looks pretty good. The Yankees

1141
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:20.000
<v Speaker 2>as well, they've lost a couple of starters, and that's

1142
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.800
<v Speaker 2>why they're Both of those teams are in the eighties

1143
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 2>rather than the nineties. But I think the Yankees have

1144
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 2>done quite well. They've lost Sodo, and how do you've

1145
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 2>replaced Sodo? You can't really, But having Goldschmidt, which is

1146
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:37.199
<v Speaker 2>an upgrade at first base, and then having Bellinger, who's

1147
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.320
<v Speaker 2>just an upgrade I think, not ava Soto, but he's

1148
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:42.280
<v Speaker 2>just an upgrade to the team because he pushes Judge

1149
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:46.440
<v Speaker 2>over to right field, and then Bellinger can play either

1150
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 2>center or he can play first. And yeah, I don't

1151
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:54.320
<v Speaker 2>know what to expect from from Jazz and Wells and Volpi.

1152
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.159
<v Speaker 2>They could be all three of them could be fantastic players.

1153
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 2>By ah, I don't know. They've got great rotation, six

1154
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:09.559
<v Speaker 2>man rotation and most of them coming back from Tommy John.

1155
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:14.519
<v Speaker 2>But you know that, I don't think that Junior Camenero

1156
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:17.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to be the rookie of the year. I

1157
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:20.000
<v Speaker 2>think he might struggle to be an average player. I

1158
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:23.360
<v Speaker 2>don't think they've got I think that's it. You could

1159
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:28.119
<v Speaker 2>see Josh Lowe, Brandon Law and Yandy Diaz they could

1160
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:32.039
<v Speaker 2>be have really really good seasons. Yeah, one hundred and

1161
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.480
<v Speaker 2>forty WRC plus or something, or they could be one

1162
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:36.320
<v Speaker 2>hundred WRC plus.

1163
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:37.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's quite a.

1164
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.719
<v Speaker 2>High variance thing. And I don't know how this moved

1165
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 2>to Steinbrenner's really going to affect them. And then the

1166
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Blue Jays' is another tough one to see. They've got

1167
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Vladdie and they've strengthened with Santander coming in. It's a

1168
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 2>pretty good lineup as soon as is it Varshow, as

1169
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:02.960
<v Speaker 2>soon as Varshow comes back, But and it's a nice

1170
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:07.960
<v Speaker 2>rotation as well. Although it's amazing the difference just having

1171
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:09.719
<v Speaker 2>shoes are out of the rotation because I think he's

1172
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:12.320
<v Speaker 2>got an injury at the moment. It's amazing the difference

1173
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:14.360
<v Speaker 2>that it looks now when you have to have Yeri

1174
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.760
<v Speaker 2>or Rodriguez go in there. But I think they're going

1175
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.079
<v Speaker 2>to be above five hundred just and Tampa Bay just

1176
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:24.039
<v Speaker 2>below five hundred. But if you told me that you

1177
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:27.440
<v Speaker 2>had predicted Tampa Bay to win the division, I don't

1178
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:29.000
<v Speaker 2>think I could argue really.

1179
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean I was speak a little about the

1180
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:35.599
<v Speaker 1>AA least I probably could argue with that. Taking the Rays,

1181
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I do think there's been a little

1182
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.360
<v Speaker 1>bit of an underestimation of that rotation. It is, it

1183
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.679
<v Speaker 1>is deep, and it is it is strong. You've got

1184
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:49.079
<v Speaker 1>guys who came on really well at the end of

1185
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.199
<v Speaker 1>last year. You got you got an eighth going straight

1186
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:56.239
<v Speaker 1>back into the top of that rotation in Seae McClanahan

1187
01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:00.679
<v Speaker 1>and a ballpen that there are sneaky guys in this bullpen.

1188
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:03.239
<v Speaker 1>You know. One of the regular breakout picks and a

1189
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:05.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of people have picked is Mason Montgomery this year.

1190
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Having seen what he's done yet. He is. He is

1191
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 1>almost nailed on to be fantastic this year. And the

1192
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:14.440
<v Speaker 1>rest of the bullpen is is good too. It is

1193
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.480
<v Speaker 1>really really good bullpen. I think the pitching for the

1194
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.920
<v Speaker 1>raising and they always if they can stay healthy. I'm

1195
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.599
<v Speaker 1>not even that worried, like they could genuinely afford to

1196
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 1>lose a couple of guys at the moment, and that's

1197
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:26.800
<v Speaker 1>still going to be an utterly dominant pitching.

1198
01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Stuff.

1199
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Bottom half of the lineup is, as gav has pointed out,

1200
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.119
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a disaster. Like we are. We are

1201
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:38.559
<v Speaker 1>really hoping on some guys turning careers around there in

1202
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 1>order to just get back to sort of average. So

1203
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Danny Jansen was a nice pick up to take what

1204
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 1>was historically been a problem spot for the offense in

1205
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the catcher position. And that is going to make a difference.

1206
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:50.840
<v Speaker 1>It is gonna make a difference. It's going to pull

1207
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:53.920
<v Speaker 1>that floor up. But is it gonna make much difference

1208
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:55.719
<v Speaker 1>than where we were last year? Probably not. I've got

1209
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I've got the raise of eighty two, sorry about eighty

1210
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:01.840
<v Speaker 1>one coming second bottom in that division. The only team

1211
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I've got below them is going to be the Blue

1212
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Jays and it's it's again. I'm going on vibes here

1213
01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:12.480
<v Speaker 1>rather than than on cold hard facts. But it feels

1214
01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like a team that has missed an opportunity to be

1215
01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 1>great and is sliding out of contention. You know, there's

1216
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a very very good chance of Laddie Walk's halfway through

1217
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.480
<v Speaker 1>this season, I can I can just see it all

1218
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.440
<v Speaker 1>going a bit south for them. So Blue Jays I

1219
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:31.159
<v Speaker 1>got on seventy eight, only just under five hund I've

1220
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:35.079
<v Speaker 1>got on seventy eight the better end of the division though. Orioles.

1221
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I can see the Oriols doing fine. They're the kind

1222
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 1>of the opposite of the Rays. They got that fantastic

1223
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.440
<v Speaker 1>lineup I'm not convinced on. They're pitching in the slightest

1224
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.800
<v Speaker 1>really really not convinced there. If they were to get

1225
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:48.360
<v Speaker 1>that together, put a couple of bits in, just a

1226
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.079
<v Speaker 1>couple of guys over over the next few weeks, they

1227
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.280
<v Speaker 1>could really catapult them to being the top top team

1228
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:55.599
<v Speaker 1>in this division. But as it stands, I've got the

1229
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Oriols at eighty eight. Red Sox the big climbers. I

1230
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 1>think everybody knew they're going to be climbers. I've got

1231
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 1>them all the way up on ninety. I think I

1232
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:06.960
<v Speaker 1>think they've got a real chance to do something here.

1233
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 1>There's a real good feel coming back to that team again, Gavi,

1234
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you hit on that. So I'm really really happy on

1235
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox being I'm not happy about it, but

1236
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.360
<v Speaker 1>really expected the Red Sox to be much better on

1237
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:22.360
<v Speaker 1>ninety and the Yankees still even despite you know, both

1238
01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:27.079
<v Speaker 1>of Jancolis Stanton's elbows, I still have them just pipping

1239
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the division with ninety one. Once they missed out and

1240
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:33.039
<v Speaker 1>so too. They did make some improvements they did. They

1241
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:35.360
<v Speaker 1>went out and they got some guys. So yeah, ninety one.

1242
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:39.000
<v Speaker 1>But Gad makes a fantastic point if you just turn

1243
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:42.000
<v Speaker 1>this division upside down. Other than really the Rays being

1244
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:44.320
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom with the Blue Jays, I mean the

1245
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:46.719
<v Speaker 1>rest of it. Yeah, they are on the jumble. They

1246
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:49.760
<v Speaker 1>could be anywhere. So that's where I got ninety one

1247
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:53.000
<v Speaker 1>for the Yankees, ninety for the Red Sox, oils in

1248
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:57.320
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight, raised eighty one, and Blue Jays on seventy eight. Ruh.

1249
01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Now, Russell's gonna tell us how we're wrong.

1250
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 3>So I don't necessarily disagree that I think that like

1251
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:07.119
<v Speaker 3>the Blue Jays and the Rays are like a like

1252
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:08.920
<v Speaker 3>the seventy four and the seventy seven wins that I

1253
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:10.360
<v Speaker 3>have is because I think they're going to be bad

1254
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.079
<v Speaker 3>and they're gonna trade and they're gonna get worse. So

1255
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:18.639
<v Speaker 3>I think they're going to be significantly behind the other

1256
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.760
<v Speaker 3>three teams and potentially even behind the wild card race

1257
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 3>that they make the decision to flip. And the Rays

1258
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I think are and have shown that this is a

1259
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:31.440
<v Speaker 3>possibility if they have somebody like half On Kim do

1260
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Well or something like that. Obviously he's got the one

1261
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:36.000
<v Speaker 3>in a year deal or whatever, could trade him on,

1262
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:39.360
<v Speaker 3>could get something nice. The Blue Jays. I just think

1263
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:41.320
<v Speaker 3>how everything is run that. I just think it's a

1264
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:41.840
<v Speaker 3>should show.

1265
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:43.559
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely do.

1266
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I just don't think whatever has gone how you just

1267
01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:49.639
<v Speaker 3>do not like get a deal sorted with Laddie. Maybe

1268
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:52.159
<v Speaker 3>the money that they were talking got a bit ridiculous,

1269
01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:54.719
<v Speaker 3>but you got to make that deal happen, Like you

1270
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.519
<v Speaker 3>cannot lose generational talent like that, especially after the season

1271
01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.840
<v Speaker 3>that is Shoe last year, and so I just see

1272
01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:05.960
<v Speaker 3>it all crumbling down this year. Otherwise, red Soux and

1273
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:09.280
<v Speaker 3>probably a bit optimistic on I do like what they

1274
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.679
<v Speaker 3>did during the off season, but I thought I was

1275
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:13.679
<v Speaker 3>a bit optimistic, and you guys have got even further

1276
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:18.559
<v Speaker 3>than I did, which was a bit surprising. And Yankees

1277
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:21.440
<v Speaker 3>losing Cole makes makes a bit.

1278
01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Of a difference.

1279
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:25.119
<v Speaker 3>And if I'm perfectly honest, if you want to talk

1280
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:27.920
<v Speaker 3>about a lineup that's not deep, this is basically like

1281
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:30.440
<v Speaker 3>potentially one of the worst lineups on a good team

1282
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:33.360
<v Speaker 3>that you've ever seen. It's basically played the guessing game

1283
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:34.679
<v Speaker 3>of who's going to be the second best.

1284
01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Hitter on that team? Do you know who it's going

1285
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to be convincing?

1286
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you think they're going to be have a WRC

1287
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:40.000
<v Speaker 3>plus better than like one twenty?

1288
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:41.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

1289
01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 3>And so it's like it's judge and and whoever decides

1290
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.119
<v Speaker 3>to turn up. Will they get a full season out

1291
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:51.960
<v Speaker 3>of somebody like Wells or Rice? Will Jazz show what

1292
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.039
<v Speaker 3>he can actually do? Will Bellager look like something that

1293
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:55.880
<v Speaker 3>we know he can do but hasn't looked like in

1294
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.519
<v Speaker 3>a while. There's lots of if butts, but like as

1295
01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:01.400
<v Speaker 3>if a butts a candy, candy, coconuts or whatever whatever

1296
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:05.920
<v Speaker 3>their phrase goes, I I just don't see it there,

1297
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:07.880
<v Speaker 3>so to me and I have the Orioles top. I

1298
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:10.480
<v Speaker 3>think they have enough for the pieces in the right place.

1299
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.800
<v Speaker 3>So obviously the loss of Burns is not good. I'm

1300
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:16.119
<v Speaker 3>frustrated because I still think the Orioles are a good team,

1301
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:19.039
<v Speaker 3>but they could be better if they'd made those moves,

1302
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:20.880
<v Speaker 3>and they would have really shown that they were the

1303
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:25.039
<v Speaker 3>best team in the AL and that really would have

1304
01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.279
<v Speaker 3>put them in a much kind of like more competitive position.

1305
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I could move up on the Red Sox

1306
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:32.720
<v Speaker 3>and the Yankees, and probably in the Blue Jays in

1307
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:35.199
<v Speaker 3>the Rays. But that's just my reasoning for them being

1308
01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:36.600
<v Speaker 3>so low is that I think they're going to do

1309
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:37.560
<v Speaker 3>bad and they're going to trade.

1310
01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what numbers are you you given us for

1311
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:40.439
<v Speaker 1>the division? Then?

1312
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:43.079
<v Speaker 3>So I have ninety wins for the Orioles, I have

1313
01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:45.840
<v Speaker 3>eighty six wins for the Yankees and the Red Sox.

1314
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I have seventy seven wins for the Rays and seventy

1315
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:51.000
<v Speaker 3>four wins for the Blue Jays.

1316
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I look looking at these numbers, then I we're

1317
01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:57.720
<v Speaker 1>not that far off from each other. We potentially could

1318
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.279
<v Speaker 1>avoid a tie break on this one if we're if

1319
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:03.319
<v Speaker 1>we're you know, congenial to each other and you know,

1320
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:07.560
<v Speaker 1>we reach out hands across across the the internet, and

1321
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:10.960
<v Speaker 1>so let's start where we're very very close, then, so Orioles.

1322
01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.199
<v Speaker 1>First of all, Russell, you've got ninety gave and I

1323
01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:17.800
<v Speaker 1>are on eighty eight. I think eighty eight is fair,

1324
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:18.359
<v Speaker 1>there isn't it.

1325
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:21.199
<v Speaker 3>They can at least come up to eighty nine. Come on, rock, Well,

1326
01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:22.720
<v Speaker 3>there's two of us on eighty eight.

1327
01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And one of those ninety suspended. There's a suspended game somewhere.

1328
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's go eight eight and a half.

1329
01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Go on, do eighty nine and then Russell osis.

1330
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:34.920
<v Speaker 1>One eighty nine. Fine, I agree with that. Yeah, okay,

1331
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.680
<v Speaker 1>all right? Where else are we close? We are? The

1332
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Red Sox are an interesting one. The Red Sox are

1333
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.640
<v Speaker 1>an interesting one. I have ninety, Gav has eighty eight,

1334
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and Russell has eighty six. Very happy to meet in

1335
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:51.399
<v Speaker 1>the middle. On on Gavin, yep, del yep, lovely eighty eight.

1336
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:55.680
<v Speaker 1>It is for the Red Sox. Where else are we close?

1337
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:58.520
<v Speaker 1>So the rest of all close ish, but not that close.

1338
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:00.920
<v Speaker 1>So let's start with the Yankees. There I've taken I've

1339
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:03.079
<v Speaker 1>gone high on the Yankees with ninety one. I'm admitting

1340
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit high on the Yankees. There, Russell's

1341
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:08.159
<v Speaker 1>really taught talk me around on the lineup side on that,

1342
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:10.399
<v Speaker 1>so I am willing to drop. So so I was

1343
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 1>on ninety one, Gave had eighty nine and Russell had

1344
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 1>eighty six. I am. I am happy to go to

1345
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:21.199
<v Speaker 1>the other side of Gavin and and me to eighty eight. Yep, yeah, lovely.

1346
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.039
<v Speaker 1>So now we go to the non exciting end of

1347
01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the division. We go to the bottom a couple differ

1348
01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:32.680
<v Speaker 1>so the Blue Jays. So we've got Russell on seventy four,

1349
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I am on seventy eight, and Gavin is on eighty four.

1350
01:10:37.439 --> 01:10:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I think what we're really looking at here Gave is

1351
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:40.520
<v Speaker 1>is a drop.

1352
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not gonna happen.

1353
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:44.960
<v Speaker 1>What the tie break? Okay, we're gonna have to tie break?

1354
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Tie break it is tie break, it is, now give

1355
01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:49.479
<v Speaker 1>us a category, no, go on.

1356
01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that they've got a really good lineup. Yeah, Okay,

1357
01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:58.079
<v Speaker 2>they might trade Flattie and if they if they dumped

1358
01:10:58.119 --> 01:10:59.680
<v Speaker 2>some players and they think that that's the end of

1359
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the window, then yeah, obviously I could be wrong, but

1360
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a solid rotation, it's good bullpen, and

1361
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:07.079
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a good lineup, it's definitely more than a

1362
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:10.640
<v Speaker 2>five hundred team. In my humble opinion, I will choose

1363
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a category of year they debuted in MLB.

1364
01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that one, right, and I've got this

1365
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:24.800
<v Speaker 1>all lined up. So let's spin the wheel. Let's spin

1366
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:27.399
<v Speaker 1>the wheel. It is spinning, it is spinning. Where's it

1367
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:31.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna land? It's landed on Jeff Hoffman. Excellent, Jeff Hoffman.

1368
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So Russell, do you want to take a stab at

1369
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Hoffman to start with? Yeah, twenty sixteen. Okay, that

1370
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 1>was really confident.

1371
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:43.239
<v Speaker 2>He's horrible, isn't it.

1372
01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Key, I am going to say twenty seventeen.

1373
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:54.239
<v Speaker 2>So then I've got to say twenty fifteen.

1374
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've got to yeah, absolutely no.

1375
01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Well I'm not going to I'm going to say, oh,

1376
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:04.159
<v Speaker 2>what did you say twenty Russell got twenty sixteen?

1377
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I said twenty seventy.

1378
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I'll say twenty eighteen. I'll go the other way.

1379
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay. The answers a misery Grussel. He looked at this

1380
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:18.840
<v Speaker 1>like two days ago, so that doesn't seem fair.

1381
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, looking up people that debuted for Colorado that turned

1382
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.439
<v Speaker 3>out to be semi okay, but not for Colorado and

1383
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.039
<v Speaker 3>he's right in there debuting back in twenty sixteen.

1384
01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:35.319
<v Speaker 1>That isn't in the weed search players who were sort

1385
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:38.119
<v Speaker 1>of okay for Colorado brilliant. Okay, well there we go.

1386
01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Then we have we have Jeff Hoffman. We have seventy

1387
01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:47.680
<v Speaker 1>four wins for the Blue Jays. Gavin is furious, and

1388
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that leaves us with the Tampa Bay Rays. So Russell

1389
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:54.439
<v Speaker 1>had seventy seven, I had eighty one, and Gavin has

1390
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:57.840
<v Speaker 1>eighty two. Oh, come I can, I can come down.

1391
01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:01.680
<v Speaker 1>That's eighty. I'll come up to eighteen. We can do eighty. Yeah,

1392
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:02.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm not eight.

1393
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Tiebreak again. Don't like this game.

1394
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Because Russell always wins. I knew it was a bad idea,

1395
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:14.159
<v Speaker 1>paying this with Russell, like, no, I'm not gonna win

1396
01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that I want. I want something I'm gonna win. So

1397
01:13:19.279 --> 01:13:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the Alias is going to finish with the Orioles winning

1398
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it with eighty nine wins, and then we're going to

1399
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.920
<v Speaker 1>have that's gonna be an interesting runoff between the Yankees

1400
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and the Red Sox. With eighty eight wins, the Blue

1401
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Jays are gonna be sorry. The Rays are going to

1402
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.079
<v Speaker 1>be next with eighty wins, and the Blue Jays are

1403
01:13:35.079 --> 01:13:38.800
<v Speaker 1>going to be basement dwellers with seventy four wins, which,

1404
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:40.560
<v Speaker 1>now I say it out loud, does sound a little

1405
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.760
<v Speaker 1>bit harsh, but too late. It is inked in right,

1406
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:47.279
<v Speaker 1>so leaving us with the most exciting and best till last.

1407
01:13:47.319 --> 01:13:49.680
<v Speaker 1>We have left ourselves with the AL Central for our

1408
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:54.479
<v Speaker 1>grand finish. So if we can reveal our predictions for

1409
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the al Central, Russell our predictions for the AL Central, Wow,

1410
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.520
<v Speaker 1>my eyes, my eyes. Okay, we are wildly differing on these,

1411
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 1>so I'll run down mine first. Then, So I've got

1412
01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the Twins winning the division. The reason I've got the

1413
01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Twins winning the division is I think they would have.

1414
01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I've got the winning with ninety and I think this

1415
01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:17.680
<v Speaker 1>is kind of where they should have been if something,

1416
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.199
<v Speaker 1>goodness knows what the wheels hadn't come off towards the

1417
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:22.920
<v Speaker 1>end of last season. They were on course, they were

1418
01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:25.880
<v Speaker 1>doing fine, and then it all went to hell. Now

1419
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:29.239
<v Speaker 1>something's clearly happened, and what to my mind, something's clearly

1420
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:31.920
<v Speaker 1>happened in that clubhouse and they weren't able to pull

1421
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:34.279
<v Speaker 1>out the skid. So I'm going to say that the

1422
01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:37.079
<v Speaker 1>skid doesn't necessarily happen, and they do end up more

1423
01:14:37.119 --> 01:14:39.159
<v Speaker 1>sort of where their natural talent says they should do.

1424
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:42.159
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I've got the Twins winning ninety games.

1425
01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Following them in the division, I've got the Tigers. I

1426
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:48.800
<v Speaker 1>think they continue the good work they were doing. I

1427
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:52.319
<v Speaker 1>think they're exciting, they're young, they're you know, there may

1428
01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:54.479
<v Speaker 1>be time to move on from havy buyers, but otherwise

1429
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they're good. There's a lot of good stuff going on here.

1430
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.520
<v Speaker 1>They've moved talks into the outfield, I believe now, is

1431
01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that right? They're they're trying some stuff they got to.

1432
01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:04.920
<v Speaker 1>They've got a manager I think who is is genuinely

1433
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.319
<v Speaker 1>considered to know what he's talking about. So I've got

1434
01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the Tigers playing eighty eight wins, dropping them to the Guardians. Guardians,

1435
01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:14.560
<v Speaker 1>goodness knows what they're doing to keep going the way

1436
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:18.960
<v Speaker 1>they have, Like the pitching works. I don't understand why, why,

1437
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:23.319
<v Speaker 1>how they've managed to keep going with the with that lineup,

1438
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:26.000
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's it's fine. They'll be all right.

1439
01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Eighty four wins. They're not gonna set anything on fire here,

1440
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.800
<v Speaker 1>but they're going to be fine. Uh. And then then

1441
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:33.359
<v Speaker 1>I've got the Royals. I think the Royals last year

1442
01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to fall back a bit. I

1443
01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.359
<v Speaker 1>think a lot went right for the Royals this last year.

1444
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I think the Royals we were sort of playing that

1445
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:42.920
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent tile of everything. They've got some some absolutely

1446
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:45.199
<v Speaker 1>great guys in there, you know that a lot of

1447
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:48.199
<v Speaker 1>the supporting cast, the Patscatinos looking great. They'll be obviously

1448
01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Witt is going to be leading leading that that

1449
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 1>team again. But the pitching side, I think there's there's

1450
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:56.319
<v Speaker 1>some regression to come. And that's why I only have

1451
01:15:57.039 --> 01:16:00.399
<v Speaker 1>the Royals winning seventy five games, maybe little sting seventy

1452
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:04.079
<v Speaker 1>five games there, and then at the bottom the White

1453
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Sox they were dreadful. Then they're going to be dreadful again.

1454
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:10.680
<v Speaker 1>They've not really done anything to sort out that team.

1455
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't see. You know, definition of insanity is doing

1456
01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

1457
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:20.279
<v Speaker 1>They did it all last year by not changing that

1458
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:22.119
<v Speaker 1>team up and trying out a bunch of young guys,

1459
01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think they're probably not doing the same thing again,

1460
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:27.199
<v Speaker 1>So I don't see them them. You know, there's gonna

1461
01:16:27.199 --> 01:16:28.560
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit aggression to the mean, But that's

1462
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:30.399
<v Speaker 1>why I've only got fifty wins for the White Sox.

1463
01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:33.239
<v Speaker 1>That's you know, that's it as there's not much, not

1464
01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:35.920
<v Speaker 1>much going on there. Come at me, Come at me.

1465
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:38.119
<v Speaker 1>We're already different on this one. Russell, what you got?

1466
01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we might as well started the White Sox.

1467
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I have about fifty six. I thought I was going

1468
01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:44.479
<v Speaker 3>to be the high on this. I am the high,

1469
01:16:44.479 --> 01:16:49.119
<v Speaker 3>but not as much high. God was definitely suggesting at

1470
01:16:49.119 --> 01:16:51.000
<v Speaker 3>some point on the weekend that he was going to

1471
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:54.039
<v Speaker 3>throw out a thirty number here. So he's come back

1472
01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:57.600
<v Speaker 3>to some sentence on what sort of been this team

1473
01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:59.840
<v Speaker 3>is bad, they'll be better than last year maybe because

1474
01:16:59.880 --> 01:17:02.159
<v Speaker 3>if they're not better than last year, they have something

1475
01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:06.600
<v Speaker 3>institutionally wrong at that club that is beyond just like

1476
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:10.000
<v Speaker 3>having a terrible owner and like that. There is something

1477
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:13.319
<v Speaker 3>wronger even like at the player development level, so bad

1478
01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:18.359
<v Speaker 3>that it's unbelievable. I have the Twins at seventy seven

1479
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:20.439
<v Speaker 3>being the fourth best team.

1480
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:22.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're good.

1481
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:26.039
<v Speaker 3>I think that like they showed what they were capable

1482
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:29.439
<v Speaker 3>of last season. You can suggest maybe they've had like

1483
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:33.760
<v Speaker 3>some additional players come through or picking up like Ty

1484
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.680
<v Speaker 3>France and Harrison Bader. Is is that really what you

1485
01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:39.239
<v Speaker 3>think is going to make them improve as a team.

1486
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

1487
01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:45.119
<v Speaker 3>I think they're full of injury prone players. They're going

1488
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:49.000
<v Speaker 3>to rely on platooning between like Walner and like Austin Martin,

1489
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Harrison Bada and Trevor Larnak and Austin Martin or whatever.

1490
01:17:52.119 --> 01:17:55.319
<v Speaker 3>I just do not think they're a good team. And

1491
01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:57.079
<v Speaker 3>I think they'll have to flip during the middle of

1492
01:17:57.119 --> 01:18:01.359
<v Speaker 3>the season when they're being bad. So that's that Guardians.

1493
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:04.279
<v Speaker 3>I generally do not know. But I've put eighty one

1494
01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:07.399
<v Speaker 3>wins here. This is the ultimate passing of the buck

1495
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:09.960
<v Speaker 3>here from the person who is the Guardians fan. There

1496
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:12.000
<v Speaker 3>is a piece coming gave. I do promise that. I

1497
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.800
<v Speaker 3>did say I would do it on the season preview

1498
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:15.399
<v Speaker 3>for Cleveland.

1499
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:16.159
<v Speaker 1>It's half written.

1500
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:18.119
<v Speaker 3>I've done my pessimism, but I said I would do

1501
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:20.880
<v Speaker 3>some optimisms as well, and I need to kind.

1502
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Of come up with the optimism. But yeah, I just

1503
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:24.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

1504
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:27.039
<v Speaker 3>This team is like can you can't expect your four

1505
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:30.000
<v Speaker 3>relievers to pitch below two A or A again, It's

1506
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:33.720
<v Speaker 3>just you cannot expect that. So who's actually going to

1507
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:37.439
<v Speaker 3>like throw the innings and do good enough. I just

1508
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:40.359
<v Speaker 3>don't know, and then from a hitting perspective, it's like,

1509
01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:44.039
<v Speaker 3>well there's Jose, and then who else actually turns up?

1510
01:18:44.520 --> 01:18:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Like Kuan and Thomas could be both very good corner

1511
01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:51.359
<v Speaker 3>outfielders and that could put a Cleveland into a good position,

1512
01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:55.319
<v Speaker 3>but they could also both be pretty gash again and

1513
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:57.279
<v Speaker 3>like this team could not be not be good. So

1514
01:18:57.640 --> 01:18:59.800
<v Speaker 3>they're solidly as they had an eighty one win team,

1515
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:02.880
<v Speaker 3>and then the Tigers and the Royals are like the

1516
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.560
<v Speaker 3>use that both teams are kind of coming through. I

1517
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.720
<v Speaker 3>think that they've both got top of the rotation talent

1518
01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:12.239
<v Speaker 3>that will be just get them that kind of fifteen

1519
01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:16.199
<v Speaker 3>sixteen wins potentially twenty wins in a season that kind

1520
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:18.119
<v Speaker 3>of ties you over and gets you into a position

1521
01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:21.600
<v Speaker 3>that you can be challenging for a divisional title or

1522
01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:24.680
<v Speaker 3>challenging kind of like for player contention and that sort

1523
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:26.720
<v Speaker 3>of thing. So yeah, I've got them both at eighty

1524
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:29.399
<v Speaker 3>six wins and tied winning the division.

1525
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:31.199
<v Speaker 1>GAV could GAV come back?

1526
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I do you really like the structure of MLB with

1527
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the six divisions, because it does make it it makes

1528
01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:43.399
<v Speaker 2>it really competitive for so many of them, and the

1529
01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:47.279
<v Speaker 2>AE or Central Chicago White Socks are obviously the worst

1530
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:51.359
<v Speaker 2>team in the sport, but the others. I've got it

1531
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:55.800
<v Speaker 2>going from eighty two for the Guardians and the Tigers,

1532
01:19:56.239 --> 01:19:58.760
<v Speaker 2>eighty three for the Royals at eighty seven for the Twins.

1533
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Thinking about it, maybe I want the Guardians on the

1534
01:20:02.159 --> 01:20:06.119
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven and the Twins on a eighty two. I

1535
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:09.760
<v Speaker 2>think it could be changed any way. Injury has a

1536
01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:13.560
<v Speaker 2>lot to do with it. I think the Guardians are

1537
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.199
<v Speaker 2>better than you're giving them credit for. They do have

1538
01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:22.159
<v Speaker 2>your breakout pick of Brian Rocchio, and they have is

1539
01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Gavin Williams. Willow to be a breakout pick.

1540
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Probably like maybe not have enough time.

1541
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:27.680
<v Speaker 3>If you think he's actually going to have like a

1542
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:29.159
<v Speaker 3>four win season, then definitely.

1543
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:33.000
<v Speaker 2>And then whether that's you know, say four win season

1544
01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that gets me onto the White Sox because they had

1545
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:39.840
<v Speaker 2>two four win pictures last year and they haven't got

1546
01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:43.479
<v Speaker 2>them this year, so they are significantly worse. I was

1547
01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:45.119
<v Speaker 2>going to yeah, I was going to put them down

1548
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:49.880
<v Speaker 2>for thirty nine wins, but I can't actually remember the

1549
01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:52.079
<v Speaker 2>whole conversation because we had had a few beers. But

1550
01:20:52.119 --> 01:20:55.279
<v Speaker 2>on Friday, Russell was telling me that you could roll

1551
01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:58.479
<v Speaker 2>out a bunch of guys any old bods and they

1552
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:01.159
<v Speaker 2>would still get sixty wins something like that. I can't

1553
01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:04.239
<v Speaker 2>remember the exact not sixty.

1554
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Quard A players. Basically that's a whole the definition of

1555
01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:08.079
<v Speaker 1>what replaced A today, right.

1556
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So basically when you were sort of saying, you

1557
01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:14.000
<v Speaker 2>guys around the table, that's what I thought it was, since.

1558
01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:17.199
<v Speaker 1>We were all quard A players.

1559
01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The Tigers are another interesting one because they were

1560
01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:23.199
<v Speaker 2>so good in the second half of last year, yet

1561
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:26.800
<v Speaker 2>they didn't really outperform their metrics. They should have been

1562
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:32.399
<v Speaker 2>that good, so they haven't really changed that much. Riley

1563
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Green he could be he could be MVP. I like

1564
01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Riley Green a lot. Yeah, So I've got them for

1565
01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:45.199
<v Speaker 2>eighty two, but maybe that's too low. And the Royals

1566
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan India. That's a nice acquisition, isn't it. He's going

1567
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:51.319
<v Speaker 2>to score at least one hundred runs? But maybe they

1568
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:55.720
<v Speaker 2>overperformed last year with Seth Lugo and Cole Reagan's I

1569
01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:58.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know really, So what we've got start with the

1570
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:00.960
<v Speaker 2>White Sox because that was quite easy one, wasn't it.

1571
01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Uh. Yeah, So looking back over what we've got the yeah,

1572
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and you're saying you could have gone thirty nine here.

1573
01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:12.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think you've been a bit generous. To

1574
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:14.399
<v Speaker 1>my mind, I think we're looking at the Bottoman of

1575
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the fifties. What have they done to make this team

1576
01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>better than the drivel they were last year?

1577
01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, Mike Talkman, yes, okay, yeah, Brandon Drury, Travis Jenkowski.

1578
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Just I am Amazedenkowski is still playing. Okay, I mean I.

1579
01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Haven't traded away Lewis Robert yet yet.

1580
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>I can maybe come up a win or two, but

1581
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't see it's going much higher than fifty one

1582
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:47.680
<v Speaker 1>fifty two wins. I think, honestly, this team is absolutely

1583
01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the pits. Come on, Russell, can you can you come

1584
01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:52.039
<v Speaker 1>up at all? Come down?

1585
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I can come down, like yeah, anywhere like in

1586
01:22:56.960 --> 01:22:59.399
<v Speaker 3>the fifties is like is fasible to me. I just

1587
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:02.000
<v Speaker 3>chose fifty six somewhere in the middle, so like, if

1588
01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:04.079
<v Speaker 3>you want fifty three, I'll come down to fifty three

1589
01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:05.079
<v Speaker 3>on fifty two.

1590
01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>If I'm honest.

1591
01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:09.159
<v Speaker 2>What did the other projection system say?

1592
01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:13.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, they project sixty because effectively, it's really hard to

1593
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:17.680
<v Speaker 3>project to be like that bad like even like they said,

1594
01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:21.479
<v Speaker 3>like the Dodgers, if you actually predict one hundred lost team,

1595
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:26.720
<v Speaker 3>you are a very bad team. Like the only reason

1596
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:28.920
<v Speaker 3>why the Rockies are predicted much worse than the White

1597
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:31.439
<v Speaker 3>Sox are is because the Dodgers, the d Backs, the

1598
01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Padres are all better than the Tigers that wins, the Royals,

1599
01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:37.199
<v Speaker 3>and the Guardians, So they're just gonna lose more games

1600
01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:39.720
<v Speaker 3>against those teams. Not necessarily the fact that the Rockies

1601
01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:42.079
<v Speaker 3>are out that much of a worse team than the

1602
01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:44.159
<v Speaker 3>White Sox. I think it is an indictment that those

1603
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:46.840
<v Speaker 3>other teams aren't in the central, aren't that good, which

1604
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:49.159
<v Speaker 3>is why the White Sox will get something in the fifties.

1605
01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you know that they they swept the Angels last year.

1606
01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:55.600
<v Speaker 3>I Eveland lost more games to the White Sox, I

1607
01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:57.000
<v Speaker 3>think than any other team.

1608
01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:01.680
<v Speaker 1>So I saw the Race played the White Sox last year,

1609
01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:06.319
<v Speaker 1>and it was the the White Sox were sixteen and two,

1610
01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and I managed to see one of those two, sorry

1611
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>two and sixteen? Might I saw one of those two?

1612
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I was impressed by that. Okay, so we're

1613
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>hovering lower fifty surely right, surely can we say fifty two? Yep,

1614
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:23.239
<v Speaker 1>fifty two, Yeah, fifty two, fifty two, lovely one.

1615
01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm regretting not being more bold and going for thirty nine.

1616
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Right, So let's have a look at the Guardians. Then

1617
01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:34.319
<v Speaker 1>we're all closes on the Guardians. Russell is on eighty one,

1618
01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>being being sad on his own team, and we've all

1619
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>actually predicted our own teams as being pretty much on

1620
01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>five hundred. So Russell predicted eighty one for the Guardians,

1621
01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Gavin has predicted eighty two, and I had eighty four.

1622
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I am happy to come and meet meet around the

1623
01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Gavin mark at eighty two, not go only two. That's fine, great,

1624
01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>it's to eighty two. Then we start diverging a little bit.

1625
01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the Tigers with a least of versions

1626
01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>of the remaining ones. So and we've got I'm fairly

1627
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:04.279
<v Speaker 1>high on the Tigers at eighty eight. Russell isn't far

1628
01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>behind me on eighty six. Gavin, however's got the Tiger's

1629
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>on eighty two, which my stingy.

1630
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm happy to go up a couple.

1631
01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Can you get you up to eighty five? Five?

1632
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Eighty five? I could do eighty five.

1633
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Go. We're getting through this fantastic. This is where we

1634
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>start to get unstuck though, Royals, I think we're we're

1635
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>tricky here. So I've got the Royals on seventy five.

1636
01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I do not see that they can redo what they

1637
01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:31.680
<v Speaker 1>did last year. I really do not see that their

1638
01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>their pitching is going to stand up to that. And look,

1639
01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:37.399
<v Speaker 1>seventy five isn't that far under under five hundred.

1640
01:25:37.479 --> 01:25:38.239
<v Speaker 2>It's quite a long way.

1641
01:25:38.279 --> 01:25:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Gavin has eighty three, so still eighty three, and Russell

1642
01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:47.079
<v Speaker 1>is on eighty six. I cannot see how we avoid

1643
01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a tie break over over the Royals. Did you make

1644
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a break? Did I? Whether I make a I didn't

1645
01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>make a bloody type over? How rude? How rude?

1646
01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>It just seems Yeah, it seems ludicrous that you'd think

1647
01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>that they were solo.

1648
01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be bold here as well. Come on, man,

1649
01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>come roy double tie breaker to finish it off, rob,

1650
01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>let's let's start having Kansas City roles tiebreaker. I will

1651
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>pick a Kansas City tiebreaker. Then I'm going to say

1652
01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>the number they currently wear on their back. So let's

1653
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>pick ourselves a Royal. It's going into the wheel. The

1654
01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.159
<v Speaker 1>wheel is spinning. Where's it going to land? Who knows?

1655
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Who knows? Who half these people are? It's spinning. It's spinning.

1656
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>We have two blanks. For some reason, it's landing on

1657
01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:44.720
<v Speaker 1>a blank, so we're spinning again. Bobby Witt Junior. Bobby

1658
01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Witt Junior. I I must say that I have no

1659
01:26:47.479 --> 01:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>idea who numbers for like, I know a couple of rays,

1660
01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>but that is about it. Bobby Witt Junior. I'm going

1661
01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>to guess at fourteen two, I thought it was thirteen.

1662
01:26:57.279 --> 01:27:01.079
<v Speaker 1>You're thirteen. Yeah, okay, all right, I have get him up.

1663
01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:05.039
<v Speaker 1>I think I can find this one. Bobby Witt Junior. Seven.

1664
01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>According to Baseball number seven, seven, gav was closest. I

1665
01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>think was closest. We get the gave result here, which

1666
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>was the outlier? No, God was the middle one over

1667
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:22.119
<v Speaker 1>the middle man. It's fine, okay, no problems. Fine right,

1668
01:27:22.239 --> 01:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>let's finally then, who thought we were going to finish

1669
01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>this with the the highs of the Minnesota Twins. But

1670
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:34.439
<v Speaker 1>we're clearly, very clearly, very divergent on this. I'm on ninety,

1671
01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Gavi is on eighty seven, and Russell is on seventy seven.

1672
01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:41.199
<v Speaker 1>So as ludicrous as you think my prediction for the

1673
01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Royals was, this is possibly even further away from the mean.

1674
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Can you easily see what it should be to make

1675
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>everything tally up.

1676
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Russ um easily.

1677
01:27:52.319 --> 01:27:56.159
<v Speaker 3>No, but I can do Chris do some maths if

1678
01:27:56.199 --> 01:28:01.279
<v Speaker 3>you're all willing to vamp like thirty seconds, yes, what was.

1679
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Whilst Russell is Whilst Russell is doing the math for us,

1680
01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 1>let's do some of our outro first, Gab, Can we

1681
01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:09.199
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about the website at the moment,

1682
01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:14.079
<v Speaker 1>So we've we've been going through the season previews. Where

1683
01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>are we up to with the season previews on the

1684
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>on the website at the moment.

1685
01:28:18.439 --> 01:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>We're about halfway through and we're just going to go

1686
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>to two being released a day. Lots of people are

1687
01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a bit like russ who have said to me, oh, yes,

1688
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I will send you my submission, but they haven't yet.

1689
01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.159
<v Speaker 2>So I figured that this weekend I am going to

1690
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>be editing lots and lots of previews. But it this

1691
01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:41.520
<v Speaker 2>is one of the real great things about backflips and Nerds,

1692
01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:43.359
<v Speaker 2>and it's nothing to do with me. It's the guys

1693
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>who were doing it beforehand. Is that anyone can submit

1694
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>an article and now we've got thirty different British writers,

1695
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>British fans who just turn their hand at writing and

1696
01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>they're submitting a preview about so it really is becoming

1697
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>a great community to be part of.

1698
01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and I've got it. The first thing I'm going

1699
01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to do when I read it. I know. I noticed

1700
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>today we've got the Tampa Bay Raised season preview by

1701
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Mark Stranger has gone up. Haven't had the chance to

1702
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:15.159
<v Speaker 1>read it yet, but that is that is where I'm

1703
01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:18.079
<v Speaker 1>going too, straight after we finish here, so half the

1704
01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>team's there, the other half coming. And it's not just

1705
01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:24.439
<v Speaker 1>it's not just season previews, as there's there's so much else.

1706
01:29:24.479 --> 01:29:26.119
<v Speaker 1>What can you pick out a couple of other highlights,

1707
01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>something something to go back and have a look at.

1708
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Gav Well one of the recent ones that we're still

1709
01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>waiting for Russ.

1710
01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a number.

1711
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:36.399
<v Speaker 2>One of the recent ones that I did was trying

1712
01:29:36.399 --> 01:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>to be a bit controversial, was that now that Donald

1713
01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Trump has decided that he will pardon Pete Rose, who

1714
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>will be the next person to be red cocketed back

1715
01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>into MLB. So then I was thinking it, wonder Franco,

1716
01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:56.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe Trevor Bauer. There are a few others on there excellent.

1717
01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean that's you know, we have some edge

1718
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:01.239
<v Speaker 1>as well. There are some country obviously on the website too.

1719
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:04.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not just fluff pieces, so that that is excellent,

1720
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>So do get over to the website because, as I said,

1721
01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:09.479
<v Speaker 1>it is our community. This is this is this is

1722
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:11.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of where we started. This podcast well, started

1723
01:30:11.319 --> 01:30:14.239
<v Speaker 1>by four guys talking about baseball, but it's very very

1724
01:30:14.359 --> 01:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>quickly followed up by a whole bunch of very very

1725
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>passionate people here putting stuff down on paper. That's how

1726
01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Russe and I got involved with the podcast

1727
01:30:22.479 --> 01:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>initially as well, was was by putting pen on paper

1728
01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:27.079
<v Speaker 1>and just giving it a go. So if you haven't

1729
01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>yet you've got an idea, you may only need one

1730
01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>idea if you only come with one piece and that's that,

1731
01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that's no problem at all. But if you've got that

1732
01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that piece in you, please get down on a piece

1733
01:30:34.359 --> 01:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>of paper because we want to read it and this

1734
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>is a great place for us to get started on

1735
01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:41.319
<v Speaker 1>and get involved in the community. Anyway, moving us back

1736
01:30:41.359 --> 01:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>over then, so Russell, you did some maths. What have

1737
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:45.199
<v Speaker 1>you discovered?

1738
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.119
<v Speaker 3>If you want this to add up to twenty four

1739
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:50.880
<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty, which is the number of games that

1740
01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:53.520
<v Speaker 3>we've played, the Twins need to win sixty two games,

1741
01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:59.119
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's stingy. We've never adjusted to two

1742
01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:02.600
<v Speaker 3>hundred two and four under thirty in this podcast, unlike

1743
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:05.359
<v Speaker 3>the eighteam which continue to do that. So I don't

1744
01:31:05.399 --> 01:31:07.520
<v Speaker 3>think we need to bother with that because I don't

1745
01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:10.640
<v Speaker 3>want to incrementally basically take two wins off every team

1746
01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:12.000
<v Speaker 3>to kind of get it or a win off every

1747
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:13.960
<v Speaker 3>team to get it to where it should be. So

1748
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:16.359
<v Speaker 3>I think we just go with a tiebreaker rob to

1749
01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:17.560
<v Speaker 3>finish this off.

1750
01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's essentially that means that you know, whatever Russell's

1751
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>picked is going to end up being the thing again.

1752
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Fight gav do us the honors, then pick us one

1753
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:27.439
<v Speaker 1>one final category for.

1754
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>The Minnesota Twins. Let's have.

1755
01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Strikeouts strikeouts, right, and we don't want pictures for strikeouts.

1756
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Pictures or it could be hit us, couldn't it.

1757
01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to leave the pictures in then, and

1758
01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:43.239
<v Speaker 1>this could get very very si we may have to

1759
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>have a second round, but okay, I'm gonna spin it

1760
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>for strikeouts. Fine, we got that is not the Minnesota

1761
01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Twins doing that again. Griffin Jacks.

1762
01:31:57.920 --> 01:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Griffin Jacks, so he is a picture.

1763
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>S Griffin. He is a picture absolutely.

1764
01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>And I am going to say that he had eighty

1765
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:08.119
<v Speaker 2>eight strikeouts last year.

1766
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:11.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Gryffin Jacks is a good picture, and I

1767
01:32:11.439 --> 01:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>think Griffin Jacks, I think he did slightly better. And

1768
01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give him one hundred strikeouts. That's too many,

1769
01:32:21.880 --> 01:32:25.039
<v Speaker 1>far too many. Don't be ridiculous. I'm gonna get I'm

1770
01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna give him seventy seven strikeouts. Okay, what did you

1771
01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>think out eight eight? Alright, eighty nine? Pretty certain, Rob

1772
01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Your first one was much closer than your second one. Oh,

1773
01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:46.079
<v Speaker 1>survey says ninety five strikeouts. Man, I would have I

1774
01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:48.359
<v Speaker 1>would have won it. I would have won it. So

1775
01:32:48.399 --> 01:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>instead we have got Russell yet again, bringing our pessimistic

1776
01:32:52.720 --> 01:32:57.199
<v Speaker 1>result right down and putting us in seventy seven wins

1777
01:32:57.239 --> 01:33:00.159
<v Speaker 1>for the Twins, which I mean that that makes the

1778
01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>division an absolute disaster again. So running from the top

1779
01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:07.079
<v Speaker 1>of that division, we are now predicting that the Tigers

1780
01:33:07.079 --> 01:33:10.319
<v Speaker 1>are going to win it with eighty five wins, The

1781
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Royals are going to come second with eighty three wins,

1782
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:17.159
<v Speaker 1>the Guardians are going to have eighty two wins. The

1783
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Twins are going to be languishing down in fourth with

1784
01:33:19.479 --> 01:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven wins, and the White Socks are going to

1785
01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>pull their bootstraps up and going to get a full

1786
01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:27.239
<v Speaker 1>fifty two wins this year, And that, as you have

1787
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it is the B team's predictions for the year. The

1788
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Twins are going nowhere near the playoffs, the Dodgers are

1789
01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>an absolute dead sert, and we're really not sure who's

1790
01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:42.079
<v Speaker 1>going to win the NL East. So basically exactly the

1791
01:33:42.119 --> 01:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>same as last year. I think that's it. That's it.

1792
01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:49.039
<v Speaker 1>So the A team are going to be doing their

1793
01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>predictions very very very shortly, hopefully pull some stats together

1794
01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>then and we can see how they come they did

1795
01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>last year compared to the actual results and us and

1796
01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:02.159
<v Speaker 1>we'll see who is the champions. I believe we would

1797
01:34:02.159 --> 01:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>be going three for three if we do all four

1798
01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:06.159
<v Speaker 1>for four? Is it? If we? If we? I think

1799
01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:08.880
<v Speaker 1>we basically wipe the wipe the floor with them every

1800
01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:11.479
<v Speaker 1>year so far, So hopefully we're going to continue that

1801
01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that trend. So do look out for that. As mentioned website,

1802
01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you've got all those team previews coming up. Keep reading

1803
01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>them that, keep submitting that. If if you haven't done

1804
01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>anything so far, please please please, we do want to

1805
01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>hear from you. You can find all that at bat

1806
01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>flipsnerds dot com and of course you can find us

1807
01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>in all the usual places bat Flips, unscored nerds on

1808
01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.439
<v Speaker 1>Twitter and backflips and Nerds on Blue Sky on Instagram

1809
01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:37.479
<v Speaker 1>and and all those other good things too. So any

1810
01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>final words, Russell on the twenty twenty five season, It's.

1811
01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Going to be interesting, Like look at a lot of

1812
01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:44.199
<v Speaker 3>the divisions that we have multiple people kind of in

1813
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:45.960
<v Speaker 3>and around the top. I don't think there are any

1814
01:34:46.319 --> 01:34:49.920
<v Speaker 3>clear favorites, like outside the Dodgers. So I think this

1815
01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:52.880
<v Speaker 3>is going to be a pretty amazing season and I'm

1816
01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:53.560
<v Speaker 3>looking forward to it.

1817
01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Cool gav I would give everyone a word of advice,

1818
01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:58.399
<v Speaker 2>if you want to save a couple of hours of

1819
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:03.399
<v Speaker 2>your life, don't bother you into the A teams projected projections.

1820
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Just have a look at the finishing position last year

1821
01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:10.800
<v Speaker 2>because they're undoubtedly just going to choose exactly the same

1822
01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:14.359
<v Speaker 2>those for those four. Don't think out of the box.

1823
01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Excell have done on that bombshell. Thank you very much.

1824
01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:18.760
<v Speaker 1>That is That is time for us to end and

1825
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>we will see you all next time. Thank you very much,