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<v Speaker 1>This his Eye on the Ball with Steve Ravera on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services.

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<v Speaker 2>Showing everybody Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Look who's here?

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<v Speaker 2>I had to find him through the streets somewhere, Blake Eager.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see you. Good singing too.

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<v Speaker 3>It does make me it sounds weird that you had

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<v Speaker 3>to find me in the streets somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, it sounds weird, but okay, sorry, sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we talk about something really quick though? Well, so,

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<v Speaker 3>driving over here, do you think Tucson has, per capita,

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<v Speaker 3>the most car washes and smoke shows in the country?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, without question, without ques wild to me though,

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<v Speaker 2>I go to one every day. How is it sustainable?

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<v Speaker 2>Who know? It was like the beds the bedplace, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you used to have? Yeah, where you get mattresses on

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<v Speaker 2>every single corner. But I think that was more of

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<v Speaker 2>a laundering stands situation because they're not as many.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, who's buying who's buying that many beds? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>let's be odd, when's the last time you bought a

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<v Speaker 3>new bed? Oh god, I'm a dude, I would ask

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<v Speaker 3>the kids in the room, but I'm sure it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>two months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Really you did, or your mommy and daddy. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>sleep in the same bed, Dave. So sure I was

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<v Speaker 2>just told Tom flip it over right, Like I never

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I had a couch my junior at college exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think we've bought one bed in the

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<v Speaker 3>last Why the observations, I know, I just it struck

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<v Speaker 3>me as like there's a couple of different reasons, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm going through this point in a career where

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to open up doors to new businesses and

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<v Speaker 3>give people the right people at the table so we

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<v Speaker 3>can create jobs and retain talent. Like want here where

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<v Speaker 3>we don't become an export city where we just continually

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<v Speaker 3>allow our talent and companies to leave. We want to

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<v Speaker 3>maintain those to a degree and keep our keep ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>worth as a city, right because we don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>become somebody that we're not. We want to maintain too

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<v Speaker 3>some we want quality jobs for the people here, sure, yeah, keep.

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<v Speaker 2>Them from going astray somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I thought it'd be fun talking say. I counted

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen car washes and thirty five on.

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<v Speaker 2>Your way here. I thought you were gonna say that's

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna say old people driving around older adults. Oh, hell,

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<v Speaker 2>I fit that category. What are you talking about? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm offending myself. I do that. I do that a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to finish sitting at text, said, I just I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't, so I put my phone. Okay, hey, and we

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<v Speaker 2>got Ray here working the system here, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>at the system. Bray, Yeah, okay, we got Juan here.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, today's Wednesday, right, Today's Wednesday about for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven hours. We'll see duke in Arizona. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna have a show tomorrow because well, no

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<v Speaker 2>one wants to come in. They want to watch the

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<v Speaker 2>game and get ready for the game. You probably couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>come in tomorrow anyway, right, No, it's something day for baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you spend I spend the day with my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing that since I was twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh with opening Day. No, good for you, Good

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<v Speaker 2>for you. That's a good story. That's a good story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah cool h. So we're no no show tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna preview the game. We'll do it today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have Matt muileblock here in about ten fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I want He was on last week and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to him really about the mystique of Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some mistake about Arizona two because and and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>here says there's a rivalry. I'm sure Duke give a crap.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'll ask, Yeah, I know. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good question. So he and I have talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it before, so I wanted to bring him talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that, and obviously tomorrow's game, and then at the

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<v Speaker 2>four seventeen hour, we're gonna talk to Brian Peabody about

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<v Speaker 2>his great run. Unbelievable and men the men and women's

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<v Speaker 2>team fantastic. Yeah, second and third place. Nothing to sneeze at, right,

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<v Speaker 2>not at all. Nothing to sneeze that. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to him about hoops and all that. We talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Hallan yesterday. I guess he and Biden are pretty close,

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<v Speaker 2>so he mentioned those guys yesterday. So here we go,

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<v Speaker 2>big game, right, you're watching the game one, We're all

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<v Speaker 2>watching the game. Yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 5>Blue moon type of moment for me, I get to

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<v Speaker 5>watch as a fan. I don't have to cover it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have to do anything. Brian's not doing that either,

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<v Speaker 5>is he? Is he covering Bran? I guess I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>he will over on X and across certain platforms, but

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<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you gonna cheer? Oh yeah, no, no, it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 5>I've gotten stuck into a superstition. I've won the same outfit,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the same food for the first two games,

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<v Speaker 5>for two.

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<v Speaker 2>Games of the tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, I'm not gonna say what it is like

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<v Speaker 3>as a former former ballplayer, like I ate superstit Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't even say what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't tell.

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<v Speaker 3>We were watching the game with a group of people

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<v Speaker 3>on Friday night and Sarah Horvath, the director of PEMA County,

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what are your superstitions? And my wife I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you don't say those things, like there's superstitions

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<v Speaker 3>for a reason, like I would if I put my

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<v Speaker 3>socks on wrong, I would go back and reshower and start.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole process. And how does that work for you?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not playing big league baseball anymore, so

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it worked for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, But you know there's a point. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>people who do the show do these types of shows,

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<v Speaker 2>and oh, I'm gonna make predictions. They make predictions and

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<v Speaker 2>they hit thirty percent. What's the point of listening to

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<v Speaker 2>people who make predictions? They hit thirty percent? So how

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<v Speaker 2>many times did your little superstition thing work? I did

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and it was I think it created

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<v Speaker 3>a routine in a sense where I mean it was

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<v Speaker 3>a little just more comfortable, like tomorrow, like want saying

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm gonna be at my parents house. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be at my parents' house to watch opening the baseball

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, the question is I think we're owing three

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<v Speaker 3>this season. My wife and I watching you ay play

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<v Speaker 3>away games at their house. And so now the question

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<v Speaker 3>is do we stare there ye or do we go

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<v Speaker 3>back home where we're like ninety percent?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've already discussed what your superstition is. Now that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a superstition, that's just an honest question. I'm asking

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. Well, you that's a routine you have. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a routine you can So you can talk about routines,

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<v Speaker 2>but not about superstient, not what the superstitions are.

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<v Speaker 3>You can say, you're like he's saying he's wearing the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing and he's eating the same food.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't tell you what the food is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, there's a limit to where you go with gets.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't say talk about details. Yeah, it's like game planning.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you not know this? You can talk about

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<v Speaker 5>you can talk about the general stuff that goes into

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<v Speaker 5>the game plan, right, but when it comes down to

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<v Speaker 5>that final detail, help.

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<v Speaker 2>Me help me out righty are you one of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah, every sport, every sport.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch now you're at twenty five percent right now, So

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<v Speaker 3>who's gonna listen to you? Because you by your by

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<v Speaker 3>your logic? Right yeah, but that's not about stupid stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's not stupid you here. Don't think I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>is hey, welcome tell you the ball. I am the host.

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<v Speaker 3>That was essentially you're telling us to stay in our lane,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't it all I'm going to say all I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to say the superstition?

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<v Speaker 2>Has it one hundred since the tournament started?

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<v Speaker 4>To it?

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<v Speaker 6>Also?

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<v Speaker 2>I would want to change that? No? Yeah, good no,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell me. Good luck with you and I thought

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<v Speaker 2>you were wearing the same stuff since you were a

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<v Speaker 2>little kid. Now do you tournament this tournament? Just this tournament?

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<v Speaker 2>You pretty wait, since you were ten a little more.

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<v Speaker 2>But now, okay, so we'll take some calls up here

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<v Speaker 2>today five two, four, one, six, seventy four forty big game.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens. Nine and a half point, dog,

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<v Speaker 2>I think still yeah, yeah, I believe so. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the same one, uh again from so the number one

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<v Speaker 2>question that I've been getting last two days, what would

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<v Speaker 2>you do? I would take the points. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say they're gonna win, but I take the points.

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<v Speaker 3>I would do the same. Yep, yeah, I mean nine

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<v Speaker 3>and a half. That's a it's a lot of points.

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<v Speaker 3>They got beat here by fourteen. They didn't play very well. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely not the same team. Yeah, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>our identity there. That was I think we're completely different.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I know, and and and you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>and one knows this because you guys grew up watching them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna write this tonight. Every time you tell

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<v Speaker 2>them you can't, they do or come close to doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're you're a ballplayer. I mean you're not good

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<v Speaker 2>enough to beat the Mets, or you know you're not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough to and then some magic happens. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I would try not to beat the Mets because they

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<v Speaker 3>were my there who paid my bills. But other teams

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<v Speaker 3>you're as lawyer. I mean, it was the same mentality

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<v Speaker 3>growing up. It was an a few mentality. I can

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<v Speaker 3>say a few, right, I just can't see I don't

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<v Speaker 3>need just can't say the real can I say the

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<v Speaker 3>real stuff? No, you kind of I want my Steve

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<v Speaker 3>n I am former host. I've taken this thing down.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's more psychology to these things, right, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>find something to say that you know, Blake, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>do this, and you find a way they can.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, listen, I mean if you guys watched Duke play yep,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, right now, looking at every team in

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<v Speaker 3>the term and they're probably the best term team in

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<v Speaker 3>the do you think so?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean do you think so? I think so? See.

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<v Speaker 2>I I like Florida from the get go, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that would helped them. Just recently, is they got

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<v Speaker 2>it scare? Yeah, it's always good. Good to get that

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<v Speaker 2>scare out, not that it's going to prevent you from

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<v Speaker 2>getting it again. But at least you know that you

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<v Speaker 2>got to bring it.

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<v Speaker 3>I maybe it's just my internal hatred towards Florida that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't allow me to see that. But you're you're absolate.

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<v Speaker 3>They're a great team and Houston. I really like Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>Houston finds a way to win no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>Houston is different than any other team out there because

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<v Speaker 2>it could, it could streep all you, it could beat

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<v Speaker 2>you up and make every point count. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just their way of playing basketball. Absolutely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see. I think to Arizona's a bang if

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<v Speaker 2>they have one tomorrow. Is they play a little of

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<v Speaker 2>that now? And Duke isn't used to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you talk about the nephew mentality, You're you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>tell them that they can't They're going to Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 5>been talking about this to a lot of people. When's

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<v Speaker 5>the last time a team beat Arizona twice? Maybe outside

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<v Speaker 5>of Houston. Let me tell you, I take to Houston.

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<v Speaker 5>That's another part of that story. I'd have to go

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<v Speaker 5>But it doesn't happen very often because not only in

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's the why? I was just gonna ask, what's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Uh, they just adjust better. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know when I cover the team every day, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do it every day now. It's like I used to.

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<v Speaker 2>But you tell Richard Jefferson, you tell Gilbertinez, you tell

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<v Speaker 2>these dudes, these dudes are better than you. What, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're if you kidding me? Yeah, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's how they beat Kansas and all that back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Uh. And part of my story is Dickerson,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Dickerson, you know, kind of oblivious to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>you feel? Well, we're underdogs, so you don't know, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what, you don't know? Yeah, and you just play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's too Arizona's advantage for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't see style of play and who's gonna who's

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's not just Flag. I mean they've got

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<v Speaker 5>Have another conversation I was having over the last couple

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<v Speaker 5>of days, just looking back at that twenty eleven matchup.

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<v Speaker 5>They let Kyrie Irving and I think the plumb lead brother.

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<v Speaker 5>They let them do their thing, but shut everyone else down.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that works. Their advantage is that's something similar

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<v Speaker 5>that's gonna happen tomorrow where they let Flag and uh

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, easier said than done.

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<v Speaker 3>They trailed for a while in that game to the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So so we'll see what happens. It's a great matchup,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's the biggest matchup in a long time

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<v Speaker 2>point wise for them being an underdog. We'll see. And

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<v Speaker 2>they were relaxed today, not that you can just look

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<v Speaker 3>You yeah, but you want to see that. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, but you know, you look relaxed today, But

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<v Speaker 2>what makes you look not relaxed when you're talking talking

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<v Speaker 2>to people? Oh? They look good on the court, really,

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Steve, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm playing? Okay here? We can here, Okay, I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>Either, I'm here, ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve unplugged his headphones. That's why you can't hear anything for.

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<v Speaker 2>You here. I can hear him there, but not here.

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<v Speaker 2>So how you doing that?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm fantastic, I'm I'm excited about tomorrow's game. I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, I was thinking you couldn't love it was

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let me we talk about this all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That about about Duke. Do you think because you played

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'll tell you I think they really respected us.

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<v Speaker 6>And so I think they really respect us. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if I ever told you this, Steve, that

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<v Speaker 6>after the first Olympics that coach K coached and maybe

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<v Speaker 6>even the second one, I sent him an email and

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<v Speaker 6>I just said, hey, you know, when we lost in

422
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<v Speaker 6>two thousand, whatever it was for or whatever, I got

423
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<v Speaker 6>this the bronze. You know, like all American basketball fans,

424
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<v Speaker 6>I was disappointed that we lost. And what coach K

425
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<v Speaker 6>did to really revive that Olympic team in those two Olympics,

426
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<v Speaker 6>I think they beat Spain maybe in both of them.

427
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<v Speaker 6>I just felt like a ton of pride for the

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<v Speaker 6>US I was and I thought what he did was

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<v Speaker 6>really great. And I just decided that email and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, this is Matt Meilbach, and I said, you know,

431
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<v Speaker 6>we played you in the in the late eighties and

432
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<v Speaker 6>early nineties, and and you know, just I really respected

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<v Speaker 6>our rivalry. And da da da me back about two

434
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<v Speaker 6>days later, and he sent me a really nice email

435
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<v Speaker 6>and said, hey, Matt, you know I loved playing against

436
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<v Speaker 6>you guys. You know. He gave me a couple of

437
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<v Speaker 6>really nice compliments about me, and you know, and what

438
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<v Speaker 6>I did and just said it was a great rivalry.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved your coach. I loved Luke, you know, we

440
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<v Speaker 6>had just b had so much respect for him, and

441
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<v Speaker 6>so that to me meant a lot. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 6>you one more quick story. In fact, just the other day,

443
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<v Speaker 6>I was listening to the game and I think it

444
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<v Speaker 6>was Duke's second game and Grant Hill, who was a

445
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<v Speaker 6>freshman on the team that we beat in ninety one

446
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<v Speaker 6>and McHale in double overtime, Grant Hill was actually he

447
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<v Speaker 6>was talking about how how the UNLV team that year

448
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<v Speaker 6>had not had not lost, so they hadn't played a

449
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<v Speaker 6>lot of close games. And he made the point to say,

450
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<v Speaker 6>you know, we played a lot of close games, and

451
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<v Speaker 6>it kind of got us battle tested for the finals

452
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<v Speaker 6>and for the final game, and that's why we beat him,

453
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<v Speaker 6>he thought. And you know, and I guarantee you in

454
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<v Speaker 6>his mind he remembers losing, you know, on Arizona, and

455
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<v Speaker 6>I've heard i'd actually heard Bobby Hurley not hurt him

456
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<v Speaker 6>and he's told me directly to my face like that

457
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<v Speaker 6>was a big, big thing for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So just real quick before Blake asked the question, are

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<v Speaker 2>you sure the coach Kate didn't confuse you with Steve Kerr?

460
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<v Speaker 6>He might have, he might That's okay, Hey, well here

461
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<v Speaker 6>I was gonna say, he only played against Kerr the

462
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<v Speaker 6>one time, right, and so I was lucky to be

463
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<v Speaker 6>part of all four of them.

464
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<v Speaker 2>But you're right, you know you know. I love you, man,

465
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<v Speaker 2>I love you.

466
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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, I thought, Hey, I'll admit, I'll admit I

467
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<v Speaker 6>wasn't probably at the top of the scouting report, but I.

468
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<v Speaker 3>Was in the scouting report. Yeah, yeah, you were. I

469
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<v Speaker 3>know you were. Hey, man, it's Blake. Thanks for thanks

470
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<v Speaker 3>for coming on first and fore most. But it's an honor, man,

471
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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

472
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<v Speaker 2>He never lost him, just dude, never lost him ever. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you pulled that up. So how

474
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<v Speaker 2>would you rate this game on scale of games? Obviously

475
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<v Speaker 2>the big game now, but you know they've played them

476
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<v Speaker 2>a number of times two thousand and one in the

477
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<v Speaker 2>big championship game, they've played them here a few times since.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, I think the championship game is number

479
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<v Speaker 6>one by far, the finals of the NCAA, Right, I

480
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<v Speaker 6>don't think you're gonna have a game bigger than that.

481
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<v Speaker 6>So I mean, to me, though, this is equal or

482
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<v Speaker 6>you know, above, or equal to any other game that

483
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<v Speaker 6>Arizona's played them And partly just because when you get

484
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<v Speaker 6>to the Sweet sixteen, now you're you're you're within a

485
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<v Speaker 6>couple a couple of good you know, you're within two

486
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<v Speaker 6>good forty minutes of being in a final four. And

487
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<v Speaker 6>that's your legendary status if you do that. And I

488
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<v Speaker 6>think the other thing that stands out to me right

489
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<v Speaker 6>now is I've heard a lot of pundits this year

490
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<v Speaker 6>over the years say, well, I think you know so

491
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<v Speaker 6>from week to week, you know so and so is

492
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<v Speaker 6>the best team, or Houston's the best team, or now

493
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<v Speaker 6>Florida was the best team after that two weeks ago.

494
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<v Speaker 6>And I've maintained since the day I saw Duke and

495
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<v Speaker 6>Michale are the best team in the country. And I'm

496
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<v Speaker 6>sure they've had some weeks where they didn't look like

497
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<v Speaker 6>the best team, But to me, overall, nobody has had nobody,

498
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<v Speaker 6>to me, has looked as impressed as duked in. And

499
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<v Speaker 6>I say that because you know, of course Cooper Flag

500
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<v Speaker 6>we going and on about him. They have the other freshman,

501
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<v Speaker 6>Canipple but I think what really sets them apart and

502
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<v Speaker 6>what's like underrated about them is the rim protection. And

503
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<v Speaker 6>you know, the freshman, I think it's mulatch. Maybe I'm

504
00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:40.480
<v Speaker 6>not sure I pronounce that right, but him, the other

505
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<v Speaker 6>four man their backup. They have, like I'm talking about elite,

506
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:49.640
<v Speaker 6>elite rim protection, and I just think that that is

507
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<v Speaker 6>the piece of the puzzle that's going to be hard

508
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<v Speaker 6>to solve for Arizona, and not that they can't, because

509
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<v Speaker 6>they can, you know, and I do think back to

510
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<v Speaker 6>Grand Hills comments know, they haven't been in a lot

511
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<v Speaker 6>of close games in the ACC and I'm pretty sure,

512
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<v Speaker 6>if I'm not mistaken, Arizona is the highest ranked King

513
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<v Speaker 6>Pomp team they played all year.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. Yeah, I do like the matchup

515
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<v Speaker 2>because you know, Duke is good, like you say, probably

516
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<v Speaker 2>maybe the best team in the country right now. But

517
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<v Speaker 2>Arizona has this special They're tougher than they used to be.

518
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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're they're yeah, they're they're athletic and l

519
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<v Speaker 2>spots you know what I'm saying, or most spots and

520
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<v Speaker 2>do it doesn't or isn't. I agree?

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<v Speaker 6>I agree. I agree that there's there's a piece of Arizona.

522
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<v Speaker 6>That's there's pieces that are better than other teams they've had,

523
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<v Speaker 6>not the most talented, not the most NBA guys. But

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<v Speaker 6>I'll say another piece that I really like. I like

525
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<v Speaker 6>the fact that dude beat Arizona. And yes, because I

526
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<v Speaker 6>think there's a there's an instinct not to bring up

527
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<v Speaker 6>a horrible memory, but I will the nineteen eighty nine

528
00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:58.720
<v Speaker 6>Vegas team that beat us. You know, we had beaten

529
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<v Speaker 6>them in McHale, and what people fail to remember is

530
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<v Speaker 6>that they really beat them by seven or eight. It

531
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<v Speaker 6>wasn't like we beat them by thirty. And But but

532
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:10.799
<v Speaker 6>what happens in a game like that is you go

533
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:13.519
<v Speaker 6>into it and I think there's a natural sort of

534
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.279
<v Speaker 6>positioning of like, okay, what do we change, Like, okay,

535
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<v Speaker 6>we don't change a ton We beat them, Like we're

536
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.960
<v Speaker 6>going to similar game plan, similar game. Let's just go

537
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:22.680
<v Speaker 6>do the same thing we did. But for the team

538
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:27.000
<v Speaker 6>that lost, you can go back and and you know,

539
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.440
<v Speaker 6>very carefully, surgically look at every play and say, how

540
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<v Speaker 6>do we fix that? How do we fix this? And

541
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:36.519
<v Speaker 6>you kind of come up with almost a new strategy

542
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.640
<v Speaker 6>for the team for offense, defense, for every player. So

543
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.799
<v Speaker 6>you can you can change a million little things. And

544
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<v Speaker 6>I like that, you know, coming into a game like

545
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.079
<v Speaker 6>this because you know, hey, we're going to they don't

546
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 6>realize how much better Arizona's gotten. I'm sure they've gotten better,

547
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 6>but Arizona's gotten a lot better. And and I think

548
00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:58.920
<v Speaker 6>there's going to be some things they see on film

549
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:02.359
<v Speaker 6>that they can fix. That said, you know, there's still

550
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:05.400
<v Speaker 6>an incredible team, but we saw in what was eleven

551
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 6>that you know that's that doesn't carry the day.

552
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we were talking about it earlier, Steve.

553
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<v Speaker 3>I think a couple of weeks ago that this team

554
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 3>finds a way they make in game adjustments I think

555
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<v Speaker 3>as good as any college basketball team in the last

556
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, fifteen to twenty games. Matt does this, Does

557
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:24.920
<v Speaker 3>this U of a team remind you of another U

558
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:26.559
<v Speaker 3>of a team we were trying to talk about that.

559
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

560
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<v Speaker 3>There's not another U of a team that comes to

561
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<v Speaker 3>my mind.

562
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<v Speaker 2>There's not.

563
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<v Speaker 6>No. I keep I keep saying, I'm probably being redundant,

564
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<v Speaker 6>But as I said, I think for thirty five years Arizona,

565
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<v Speaker 6>and I say this as a compliment, they've been you know,

566
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:44.880
<v Speaker 6>trotting out a Ferrari every year, and you know, this

567
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.400
<v Speaker 6>team's much more of a Ford f one fifty. And

568
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.640
<v Speaker 6>you know the Ferrari teams that Arizona's put out have

569
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<v Speaker 6>been you know, multi five six seven pros on teams,

570
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 6>and you know, they just run like crazy, and I

571
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:02.279
<v Speaker 6>think they Arizona's always had good defensive team. Sean Miller

572
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 6>had great defensive teams. But I think that, of course

573
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.440
<v Speaker 6>the Big twelve helped. Being battle tested, playing so many

574
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 6>teams and not playing well. Really like this is Steve.

575
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:14.799
<v Speaker 6>We've been all of us been around, and Steve's been around.

576
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 6>He knows this more than anyone. Lout was the master,

577
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:19.920
<v Speaker 6>and for whatever reason, I don't even know how he

578
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 6>did it, but you know, he had teams in November

579
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 6>that were ready to win a national title and we're

580
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.200
<v Speaker 6>the best teams in the country in November fifteenth, and

581
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.799
<v Speaker 6>this team wasn't very good in November and December, and

582
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 6>so I think they had to struggle to get better

583
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 6>and learn who they were and figure out an identity.

584
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 6>And that's been that's been kind of a really positive

585
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 6>thing for them that I don't remember teams going through that.

586
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<v Speaker 3>No, not to this degree. I mean, I think the

587
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.200
<v Speaker 3>toughness too, is a different characteristic for you. And I

588
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.160
<v Speaker 3>don't mean this in a bad sense by any means,

589
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 3>and it has to be you know, they had to

590
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 3>do it from a Big twelve standpoint, but the toughness

591
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 3>characteristic of this team because they're not a great three

592
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 3>point shooting team, but they they don't seem to. You know,

593
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:05.440
<v Speaker 3>they have moments, they have moments where they lose it

594
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, but it feels like they're able to

595
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 3>compose themselves throughout the game in different manners and it's

596
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.400
<v Speaker 3>it's just been ines. It's been impressive watching the evolution

597
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 3>of the UVA basketball team this year.

598
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, totally agree. You know, I finding ways to win

599
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 6>in different ways and now all of a sudden, they're

600
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 6>actually offensively at least knock on wood. They've played really

601
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:28.000
<v Speaker 6>well the last three weeks four weeks. But they do

602
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 6>find different ways to win their identity and I say

603
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.599
<v Speaker 6>this too. Some just look at the personnel, right. I

604
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.359
<v Speaker 6>think Caleb Love is super tough and he's been through.

605
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 6>Like Caleb Love at the beginning of this year was

606
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 6>being destroyed by people, Oh yeah, you know, the social

607
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 6>media and by even like a lot of you know,

608
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.039
<v Speaker 6>a lot of announcers were getting on him and you know,

609
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 6>sort of the sort of experts and stuff, and you know,

610
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 6>he's weathered that storm. You know. I think I think

611
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 6>a walk is the most physical player in Arizona history.

612
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you talk about a big body guy

613
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:04.559
<v Speaker 3>that's not afraid to get in there and get deep.

614
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.640
<v Speaker 3>I think the evolution of his offensive game has been incredible.

615
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean just yeah, he's been a great rebounder, right,

616
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 3>but I mean finding ways to score and getting punched

617
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 3>in the faceball doing it as a it's been impressive. So, Matt,

618
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.480
<v Speaker 3>a couple of what are your what are your two

619
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<v Speaker 3>let's say, two key teak takeaways for the UFA basketball

620
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 3>team for tomorrow.

621
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<v Speaker 6>Well, if you remember in twenty eleven, obviously I was

622
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 6>there doing the radio.

623
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<v Speaker 2>With Brian Jefferies.

624
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<v Speaker 6>You know, Derek Williams won the game in the first half. Now,

625
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.599
<v Speaker 6>so I think the two keys of that game were

626
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.039
<v Speaker 6>Derek Williams kept him in the game when things were

627
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:43.000
<v Speaker 6>not going well, and when Duke was Duke was clearly

628
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:47.599
<v Speaker 6>better than Arizona that year, and and better their talent

629
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 6>was off the charts. And but Derek Williams, because he

630
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 6>was the guy he was and just the leader of

631
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 6>that team, and you know, kept him together most of

632
00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 6>the time. His twenty five or whatever it was in

633
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 6>the first half was the key to not getting blown out.

634
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 6>They were on the version of getting blown out five

635
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 6>different times, and he just kept holding them in. Because

636
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 6>of that, I think Caleb Love as the guy who's

637
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 6>there dominant. He's going to shoot the most most likely, right,

638
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 6>That's what he does most of the time. He's got

639
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 6>to have a good game. You just it's going to

640
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.839
<v Speaker 6>be difficult to win without your best player, the guy

641
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 6>who shoots the most not playing well. But then I

642
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 6>think what happened in that second half and in eleven

643
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 6>was it was the team got confidence, and it was

644
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 6>a collective effort where everybody, you know, I'm trying to

645
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 6>think of.

646
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, Momo Jones and just all the all.

647
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 6>The guys, Jamelle and Jamel ja Or had a great

648
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 6>second half and guys almost kind of played better than

649
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.519
<v Speaker 6>they were And it was because the belief. All of

650
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.039
<v Speaker 6>a sudden, they caught fire with their belief and their confidence.

651
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 6>And I heard the stories of Sean Miller saying that week,

652
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 6>you know who's going to be the aggressor, you know,

653
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 6>do they take it to us or do we take

654
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 6>it to them? And I think the confidence that they

655
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.440
<v Speaker 6>have to really really believe they could win that game.

656
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 6>And you guys were around. I mean, you look at

657
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 6>the ninety seventeen that beat Kansas. I thought, Luke, you know,

658
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 6>for for all the things he's done good or not

659
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 6>as good, like him saying all week that who's the underdog?

660
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 6>I thought it was laughable. Then he kept saying that laughable,

661
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 6>but he believed it. And I give him credit because

662
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 6>that was the reason they won that game, because lut

663
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 6>believed in his heart and he had so much confidence

664
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 6>that that team could beat them. He was not backing down.

665
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 6>And I think that's the kind of you got to have.

666
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Speaker 6>That believe It can't be fake. And I've been on

667
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.160
<v Speaker 6>plenty of teams, you know that, even great teams, where

668
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 6>sometimes you'll have a game and it's almost like a

669
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 6>little bit of a fake fake I call it fake juice,

670
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, and they're going to be juiced up, they're

671
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 6>gonna be ready, But you got to have that underlying belief.

672
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question. We talked about this before you came on,

673
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 2>and I've covered this a long time obviously with the games.

674
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 2>And I've said this because of guys like you, and

675
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to blow smoke with you because you're

676
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 2>on the show. Are asked people and they've told me

677
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>who's the who's the most fierce? Uh hate to lose

678
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.480
<v Speaker 2>dude out there? It was this dude from Kansas who

679
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>went to California and he may look like a little

680
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 2>paper boy guy, he's a pain in the ass's because

681
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>he hates to lose. And let me tell you something,

682
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 2>that's what Mays makes Arizona. Steve Kurt looks like a

683
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>little paper boy, but he hates to lose. Sean a

684
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>little paper bowl. Another guy who hates. So you guys

685
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 2>are comprised of those dudes right who.

686
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 4>You have.

687
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 2>You can't beat Duke Steve, You can't beat Duke Sean.

688
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.720
<v Speaker 2>You can't be Dukee. Guess what happens. He pisses you

689
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:38.119
<v Speaker 2>off and you prove.

690
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.839
<v Speaker 6>That you can't right now. It's it's it is it

691
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 6>is that that that competitive drive that believe you know,

692
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.559
<v Speaker 6>not backing down from from a team that maybe you

693
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 6>know nationally is perceived better and and uh and really

694
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 6>believe in it, not not the bs, you know, talking

695
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 6>and it's you know, really not there. But yeah, I

696
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.160
<v Speaker 6>mean I was. I was. I competed and that was

697
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 6>one thing I didn't care about was I would compete

698
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:06.400
<v Speaker 6>against anybody and I would stand up to him. I

699
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.119
<v Speaker 6>was always better than them. But I think this team,

700
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 6>like you said, this team has that. I think they

701
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 6>have that that drive and that that competitive belief behind them,

702
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 6>and it's gonna take that for sure, like if they

703
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 6>if they had any doubts. And I'll tell you this,

704
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 6>I said this this week to two people what Tommy

705
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 6>Lloyd did in the under sixteen time out when they

706
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 6>were down one, nineteen to four, seventeen or nineteen to four.

707
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 6>He didn't panic. And I've been in huddles in the

708
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 6>tournament where we panicked a bind and it's easy to do.

709
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 6>It's really easy to panic. It's it's really hard to

710
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:48.200
<v Speaker 6>not panic because the stakes are so high. And I thought,

711
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 6>credit to Tommy and credit to the team for not

712
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 6>panicking when they got down. It's a long game, just

713
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 6>possession by possession get back into it. I was shocked

714
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 6>that they were actually in the lead at half time.

715
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:03.319
<v Speaker 6>I would not even have ever bet that. So the

716
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 6>fact that they have that kind of interior you know,

717
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 6>or you know internal you know, sort of belief and

718
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:12.440
<v Speaker 6>confidence is pretty key.

719
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a quick question, Hobby, send me

720
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 2>a note to ask you talk about Sean Elliott making

721
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 2>that shot over Danny Fairy in nineteen eighty nine. Was

722
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>that a planned player? Did Sean just take over that

723
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>shot for that shot?

724
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 6>He just took over? Yeah, he just we were bizarre

725
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 6>thing for us as we were smacking him in the

726
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.719
<v Speaker 6>first half. I can't believe they ever even came back

727
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 6>and took the lead. It was kind of we were

728
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 6>we felt like we were controlling the game and just

729
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 6>blowing them out. So they had a good team. Obviously

730
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 6>we had a Final fourteen that year. But Sean just

731
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 6>I just remember he just he sometimes we would give

732
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 6>it to him to bring it up, and he just

733
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 6>brought it up and decided to shoot it. It was.

734
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 6>It was that simple. And you know, Fairy guarding him

735
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 6>was not a good matchup. I think they had most

736
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 6>of the time Bricky or someone else guarding on and Faery.

737
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 6>Farry is a great player, but he couldn't guard Sean,

738
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 6>and so it was the perfect shot because Ferry was

739
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 6>so worried about him driving on him, and I just

740
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 6>I think I was in the corner at the time

741
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.719
<v Speaker 6>thinking probably like with Kerr against the Jazz when when

742
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 6>Jordan took his last shot, like, I'm not going to

743
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.000
<v Speaker 6>shoot it. I'm just going to watch this and have

744
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 6>a good time watching it because I know it's not

745
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 6>coming to me. He's shooting this one.

746
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Let me ask you. We had Cory on Monday,

747
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Corey Williams and he's now, you know, obviously with you

748
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.760
<v Speaker 2>guys ESPN and doing doing all these games. I asked

749
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 2>him if he ever ran into Jalen Rose and talked

750
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 2>about that ninety four, ninety three ninety four game with

751
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 2>Kalid doing what he did. Do you are you still?

752
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Are you friends with any of the former Duke guys?

753
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Yeah, I became really good friends with Quinn Snyder.

754
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.559
<v Speaker 6>Quinn's now the head coach of the Atlanta Hawks. And

755
00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 6>it's funny, Steve, I'll tell you a funny a quick

756
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 6>funny story with Steve Curse sent me some funny text.

757
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.559
<v Speaker 6>We were kind of like talking about the game and

758
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.679
<v Speaker 6>he said something in a funny way about Duke and

759
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 6>he's like, oh wait a second, A lot of those

760
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.760
<v Speaker 6>guys are my friends, you know, like we and I

761
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 6>don't know if you know what we're going to this story.

762
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 6>Steve was we lost, you know, in the eighty eight

763
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 6>final four, you know, Oklahoma will do lost to Kansas,

764
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 6>and so we were all out at a bar afterward

765
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.639
<v Speaker 6>with Ferry and and Quinn Snyder and some of their

766
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.079
<v Speaker 6>guys like having a couple of drinks and we kind

767
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 6>of became buddies with those guys for something. It was

768
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 6>just an odd, odd connection, not odd because we played them,

769
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 6>but it just became this kind of cool connection where

770
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 6>Steve was really good buddies and I think he played

771
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 6>with Ferry for a while at Cleveland and maybe even

772
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 6>in San Antonio. You know, we had those we had

773
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.480
<v Speaker 6>four games of great games in a row with them,

774
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 6>and we all became kind of buddies to my buddy.

775
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 6>In fact, the other que Bruce Frasier, became really tight

776
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 6>with with Quinn Snider and we were just all kind

777
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 6>of buddies for whatever reason. And we know they kind

778
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 6>of at that in that time period, they had deep

779
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 6>best program on the East coast and we had the

780
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.679
<v Speaker 6>best program on the west. So to go full circle

781
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 6>to your original question. I think they really did respect

782
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.079
<v Speaker 6>us and knew how good we were, and you know,

783
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 6>and and Kay knew how good Loot was and vice versa.

784
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 6>And then of course you know dick by Tal calling

785
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 6>it the Duchies and Loot made fun of that. That

786
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 6>just made it even more, uh, you know, than created

787
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 6>more of.

788
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 2>A rivalry, right, yeah, no question. And you guys are

789
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 2>cut from the same mold, you know, the competitive dudes

790
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 2>who you know, who took pride in the game and

791
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 2>and and you know they day for Duke and you

792
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 2>guys pray Arizona back in the day.

793
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 6>I think so, I think you're right. In fact, well,

794
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:44.599
<v Speaker 6>Jay Billison always says, you know, tells the story of

795
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 6>Loot recruiting him at Iowa and going going into his

796
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 6>family room and his mom of course loved Lout and

797
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.880
<v Speaker 6>thought he was handsome and and he said, I can't

798
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 6>believe Lout actually got me to visit Iowa. And that's

799
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 6>a that's another great connection. You know, Jay Billis has

800
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 6>been really close to Steve. Jay Billiss has been great

801
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 6>to me about about you know, announcing. I talked to

802
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 6>him a lot about announcing and you know, things about

803
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 6>I remember When I first did the studio, I talked

804
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 6>to Billis. He gave me a lot of great tips

805
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 6>and so we've just had this, Like I said, it's

806
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 6>almost been this really unique you wouldn't think it would be,

807
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:24.719
<v Speaker 6>but this really unique, cool connection between the two programs. Now,

808
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Speaker 6>I will say I love all the Richard Jefferson you

809
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.360
<v Speaker 6>know Shade dude, like Richard's Richard's differently, I mean that

810
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 6>was a different period. Of course, you know they lost

811
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.719
<v Speaker 6>in the finals. So I get it. And only Richard

812
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 6>can can do what he does because it's it's hilarious

813
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 6>and I love it. But yes, it's good stuff.

814
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks Matt. Are you guys going to be in

815
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>a thread tomorrow night the text threat?

816
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, oh yeah, we got well I've got like

817
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 6>two or three of them, and yeah, we'll have some

818
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 6>good tech threads going. It'll be fun. I got othic

819
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 6>on one of them, and you know we had some

820
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 6>othic was there for three of those matches and Joe

821
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 6>and Kerr and Elliott and it's good stuff. So we

822
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 6>will be uh, we'll be enjoying it.

823
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, good luck, man, Thank you, thanks a bunch as always. Yeah, thanks, guys,

824
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 2>have a doing Matt Melbuck. We went over, but that

825
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:13.800
<v Speaker 2>was great stuff, right fun. We'll take the break and

826
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 2>come back and maybe take a call or too. If

827
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.559
<v Speaker 2>you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been

828
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 2>successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back

829
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.239
<v Speaker 2>at the Ludelsen era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot.

830
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 2>It was a labor of love through the eyes of

831
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 2>twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight

832
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>to the coach and the man who led them, competed

833
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 2>against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the ball on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to take part in the show Call up Steve

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<v Speaker 1>now went by two oh four one seventy four Ford, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to about here on Fox Sports fourteen Cookie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Steve rivera Blake Eager from Southern Aer's on the sports,

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<v Speaker 2>tourism and film authority. One we got one, We got

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<v Speaker 2>Ray in a full house and he got full houses right.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody want to call? Please do five two ozero four

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<v Speaker 2>one six seventy four forty. I always love talking to

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<v Speaker 2>that good stories. If you're having Matt on just to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about stories, like just to share stories. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>wealth of stories. No, but because he's told me a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these stories and in the book, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we I've done enough books. All these stories are old

904
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<v Speaker 2>to me, but their funny creeks to how he tells them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so back in the day, Well, you're gonna give me

906
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<v Speaker 2>grief because you did pay for a book and I

907
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<v Speaker 2>haven't got it, but called hard cash. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna tell the story, and I want him to tell it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll tell it back when when you're a player, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've had coaches throughout your career, right, So he

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<v Speaker 2>gets on he's a he's a freshman, and he's at

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<v Speaker 2>Michale and and he's with the buddy on the Michael

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<v Speaker 2>floor and Luke walks by and he's with somebody, and

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<v Speaker 2>Matt goes, hey, lude you know, thinking that you know,

915
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<v Speaker 2>he's my coach, and he's going to respond, and Luke

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<v Speaker 2>looks back, is what the hell you look at? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you ask? I'm your coach. Don't don't talk to

918
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<v Speaker 2>me at any other time until you know, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>And because Matt's kind of like a young naive dude,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking my coach, he's gonna say hi. But you don't

921
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<v Speaker 2>have relationships like that when you're a player coach. After

922
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<v Speaker 2>you're gone, it's all good funning games. Yeah, but not

923
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<v Speaker 2>until you not until you leave. Yeah. You set that

924
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<v Speaker 2>standard there, right, You have to well, and that's what

925
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<v Speaker 2>makes some of the good coaches. You're not their friend,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're also not to you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have that line of well, you can't cross.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more of a family bond than it is a

929
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<v Speaker 3>friend bond, right, Like you would do anything for your player,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't want to go get drinks with him

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<v Speaker 3>and hang out with him and talk about you know,

932
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<v Speaker 3>his personal life. I have no interest, right right. I

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<v Speaker 3>want the best for him and I want the best

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<v Speaker 3>for his career. Were some of your better coaches like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, yeah, because you you It was a strange structure.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're are.

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<v Speaker 3>My head coaches would always keep that, but your pitching

939
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<v Speaker 3>coach would be a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally get him, but they're because they're not the head.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach exactly, and they've got to build a deeper bond there, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Question, And that's why I've always said, uh, I've always said,

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<v Speaker 2>I firmly believe this. There are some exceptions, exceptions when

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach goes and they in the elevated assistant

945
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<v Speaker 2>coach into the position. It doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't put the substitute teacher in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>class to expect the same result. I'll tell you. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a quick story.

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<v Speaker 3>My college coach at Metro State and Denver, we did

950
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<v Speaker 3>not see eye to eye. This is my junior year.

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<v Speaker 3>I went in as a preseason All American and have

952
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<v Speaker 3>you been there? Here was there? Yeah, he recruited me, right, great,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's phenomenal man like love him to death now, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but he I didn't take my I didn't take that

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<v Speaker 3>year very seriously. Yeah, from my health standpoint, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was thought I was hot stuff and the lats

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<v Speaker 3>of days of coal and just not attentive. And he

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<v Speaker 3>called me out on it. And then we were doing

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<v Speaker 3>a bunt drill one time and he was having me

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<v Speaker 3>throw live and I threw out his head and I

961
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<v Speaker 3>thought I was going to get kicked off the team.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had a strong discussion after that, and he

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<v Speaker 3>pulled me in the office and we set some standards.

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<v Speaker 2>I did throw what is it? I was a hot shot.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just coming off like anyway, it was stupid, right,

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<v Speaker 3>we're young kids, like, and I was nineteen at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>I think. But anyway, we pulled. He pulled me in

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<v Speaker 3>the office. We had a long discussion, an honest, open discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>From there after that it was a it was a

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<v Speaker 3>truly strong bond, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Maybe it takes something like that, but what the

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<v Speaker 2>hell are you think? Yeah, I mean there's another one.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Carter was my coach in HYA with Port Saint Lucie, right,

974
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<v Speaker 3>so a Hall of Fame coach. My first half, I

975
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<v Speaker 3>was pitching through an injury, so I was only thrown

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<v Speaker 3>like eighty six to eighty eight maybe, and then after

977
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<v Speaker 3>I would be done with my games. I couldn't like

978
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<v Speaker 3>move my arm for two days, right, So I was

979
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<v Speaker 3>working through and then finally it was just to the

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<v Speaker 3>point where I was like, I can't do this. So

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<v Speaker 3>I took a six week rehab stant and they came

982
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<v Speaker 3>back and was completely dominant that second half, And he

983
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<v Speaker 3>pulled me in the office. He goes, you know, everybody

984
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<v Speaker 3>was telling me about you and how good you were,

985
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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, I just thought you sucked. You were

986
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<v Speaker 3>awful that first half. But he was such a good guy.

987
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 3>That everybody wanted to be around him, but he made

988
00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:00.039
<v Speaker 3>sure that he took his moments with his players to

989
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<v Speaker 3>be specific on what was expectations.

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00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>And then that's what the good coach does. Yeah, good

991
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.679
<v Speaker 2>coaches do that, so we'll see. I thought the coach

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00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Kathy was a pretty interesting thing. I had never heard

993
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 2>that one about the letter. I'm joking about Grigs. People

994
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<v Speaker 2>think that some people think he's like Steve Kurry, aren't

995
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<v Speaker 2>you no?

996
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<v Speaker 3>Or the bond that they built with other Duke players

997
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:21.719
<v Speaker 3>and how long it's lasted. But you're right, they're cut

998
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<v Speaker 3>from the same clot They are the same type of athlete.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that point, it was similar programs, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Duke's obviously got a little longer history, but similar programs

1001
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<v Speaker 3>and similar, similar expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was talking to you guys about this too.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't do Does do you think Duke thinks about

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona as much as Arizona thinks about Duke? And they

1005
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<v Speaker 2>kind of everyone has kind of an obsession with Duke.

1006
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they think. I know that it

1007
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<v Speaker 2>was a big game because I went there last year

1008
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<v Speaker 2>to watch to be part of that Duke experience. I

1009
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<v Speaker 2>was impressed, but not all that impressed because it's a

1010
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<v Speaker 2>small box. I mean, you could feel imagine mckail with

1011
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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand people. Yeah, wouldn't it be crazy? Wouldn't it

1012
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<v Speaker 2>be crazy? It would be They're the craziest place I've been,

1013
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<v Speaker 2>or maybe Oregon, Oregon hold that court or Stanford where

1014
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<v Speaker 2>they be the court bounced, you know, and it was

1015
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:15.679
<v Speaker 2>just bonkers crazy, and Duke was Okay, it's okay. I

1016
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.239
<v Speaker 2>had to take to it. Yeah, they had to do it. Okay,

1017
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<v Speaker 2>what do you think? What do you guys think? We'll

1018
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 2>talk more about it, but about tomorrow's game. Oh, they're

1019
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:28.679
<v Speaker 2>gonna win. That's a lead of question right there. Do

1020
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<v Speaker 2>you think? Who do you want to ask? The one

1021
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<v Speaker 2>or the fan? Who give me? Give me your reasons

1022
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<v Speaker 2>for both? Because you're a fan and then you're a

1023
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<v Speaker 2>professional professionally, I think Duke is that good of a team.

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<v Speaker 5>And Arizona has struggled all season and to this point

1025
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<v Speaker 5>they haven't really fixed it. They haven't really shown against

1026
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<v Speaker 5>against against good teams. But it seems like they've found

1027
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<v Speaker 5>their groove. It seems like even though they've made a

1028
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<v Speaker 5>lot of mistakes these first two games, they've overcome it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh And I don't know, but they haven't pay they

1030
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<v Speaker 2>haven't faced duke exact duke teams exactly. I think where

1031
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<v Speaker 2>the hesitation comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think I think the Oregon Oregon game

1033
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<v Speaker 3>prepares him pretty well for this from a lenked standpoint

1034
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<v Speaker 3>and talent standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so hold that up. Yeah, we got a call

1036
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<v Speaker 2>coming in. Hello, you're on the aeronine on the ball?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's this? Hey, Steve? This is done? Done? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you got? What you got the winner? Who's winning it? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Here here's what I think. I think.

1040
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<v Speaker 17>I'm I'm really I'm really hoping for for it to

1041
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 17>be a good game. Actually I hope, I hope for

1042
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 17>Arizona have a good game. But I think this is

1043
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:45.480
<v Speaker 17>going to give us, like the answers to the test

1044
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 17>that it was playing in the Big Twelve. Yeah, I

1045
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.000
<v Speaker 17>think that this is going to They're playing against a

1046
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 17>good team, a team that's probably better than them, but

1047
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.519
<v Speaker 17>the wars that they had in the league, which Houston

1048
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.119
<v Speaker 17>and and you know, being close and saying well, if

1049
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 17>this possession, that possession, if we get those possessions tomorrow,

1050
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:11.880
<v Speaker 17>I think that Arizona can win. But you know, I

1051
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 17>want I want them to I want it to be

1052
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 17>I don't want it to be like like well, certainly

1053
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:21.159
<v Speaker 17>don't want to blow out. And you know, if it

1054
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 17>was one of those things that could have been, well,

1055
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 17>hopefully they make it happen and it is.

1056
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<v Speaker 2>But like I said.

1057
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<v Speaker 17>Earlier in the week, I think Arizona's playing with house

1058
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 17>money now and what happens happens as long as they

1059
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 17>play well. Yeah, we saw that in the We saw

1060
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.519
<v Speaker 17>that in the league where they played well and lost games,

1061
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:42.000
<v Speaker 17>which is kind of hard to get used to.

1062
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.559
<v Speaker 2>No, No, you're you're right, because well, there's a point

1063
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.880
<v Speaker 2>where you're as good as you're going to be and

1064
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 2>you just run up against the team that's even better. Yeah.

1065
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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, And I think I think maybe the there is

1066
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 17>a there is going to be some familiarity, but you know,

1067
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.599
<v Speaker 17>the playing in the league games and playing Houston in

1068
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 17>such a close proximity of time between those two games

1069
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 17>that you know that's to play them again would be

1070
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 17>you know, probably be a bad experience. But having all

1071
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 17>this time between the first game with Duke and this game,

1072
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:22.960
<v Speaker 17>and you know, learning the lessons that they've learned, I

1073
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:25.719
<v Speaker 17>think that they stand a good chance to win this game.

1074
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 17>It's not insurmountable by any means. I don't think.

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00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's why I would take the points.

1076
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 17>I think that they have a decent shot, you know,

1077
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:36.480
<v Speaker 17>they just they just they got to play a really

1078
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 17>good game and uh and we'll see how it goes.

1079
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right, we have to take a break here. Done.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the call, all right, take care of thanks,

1081
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<v Speaker 2>don uh go? Can we go?
