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But tonight we're gonna start off with the non spoilers
thoughts on gen V episode six. Taylor Hi film so
far we're going in the last two episodes, you're feeling good,
feeling worried, filing, So hum, where are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Surprised at how short this episode was?
Speaker 1: Is peacemaker level? Sure? It was. It was.
Speaker 2: It kind of caught me off guard, and so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mean to take it, Yeah, take it.
Take to posters is gonna rip down?
Speaker 2: Yet?
Speaker 1: What a sure? I'd say this. So I enjoyed this episode.
Luckily I'd have to rewatch it. But I think overall,
on the whole, I do enjoy gen V season two
more because I do enjoy the whole boys and crazy
stuff and everything, and that was the fun thing about
the college stuff. But I think there were some episodes
just didn't exactly work. But I like that it's still
pretty plot driven. We got I'll just say, we got
the characters we care about. I'd say, back together, which
is good. I'm liking the trajector they're going with them,
And I feel like this was just a setup for
the next two episodes because I feel like the penultiate
it's gonna be a lot of stuff, and then the finale.
I think the finale is gonna be pretty big because
maybe Amazon's already let them know, but we don't know
for sure if this is the last episode or not, right,
whether it's they it just ends and they're like, oh, yeah,
that is the end the show. These characters are gonna
go into the boys or other stuff, or they it
just ends because like all the viewers weren't there, right
or maybe season three. We don't know. We'll cover that
like on a newscast or something. But uh so, I'm
that's what I think. I think this was a good episode.
But it was and not bad set up. I enjoyed
all the interactions. I enjoyed the reveals. I enjoyed the
people that were coming in and out of it and
stuff going on. We got some cameos. It's funny. Last
week we're talking about certain storyline, like how did that end?
And literally in the recap this episode they show it's like,
oh right there he goes, so uh no, to me,
that's what it was. It was a calmed before the
storm where I think a lot of shit's gonna go down,
but not in a bad way. I think there's some episodes,
you know, joking, but like peace Maker, I've had that
before where it's like, oh it is kind of a
calm before a storm, but really nothing happens. You could
have done this in five minutes where this feels like
there is some things progressing or progression progressing, and uh,
yeah some new doors opened, and yeah, everything's good. I
think there's one storyline that I just I hope it
doesn't go on for too long. I really have no
interest in. I get what they're doing. You kind of
have to do those beats. But it is one of
those situations where if one character maybe just talk to another,
you could maybe put this kebash on this issue, but
there has to be drama, so it's like, all right.
So and it went different than I thought. I can
say because last week, if you're listening to what I
saw last week, and maybe people might be disappointed by this,
I don't know. I thought last week the way it
set up, I thought this week was gonna be a
very action heavy episode with them trying to gather the prison.
Really wasn't They got, you know, minsports. They got out
of that prison very fast, and that was on to
the rest of the stuff. So I was thinking it
was gonna be an action episode, but really it was
a lot of Okay, look at what's coming where these
characters going, And yeah, so overall, another great episode, I hope, uh,
I will say that. I think there's been. I think
the show has just been good to very good overall.
I don't know if I've had an episode Moore I'm like, oh, wow,
that's great where that's something where like what the shows
were reviewing, Oh like this is Clear's dexter for alien
on Earth, I'd say Clear is the alien or for Peacemaker.
I would say that overall the season, I like gen
V Moore, but I think Peacemakers had some stronger episodes.
So I'm kind of hoping either the finale or penultimate
episode have like that one episode gen V and we're like,
oh that was I'm gonna remember this for you know,
a couple months where we are on TV Land, but
just something big and juicy, right. But overall, I think
it's been a very good, a very good season, other
than we've kind of you know, lost some steaks here
and there. But what do you think about this episode? Finally, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Just think that it's as I said, it was shorter
than expected, but it caught me off guard when we
introduced a few things. They really do a good job
at kind of cementing and reaffirming like, hey, this is
in the Boys universe obviously, and that we're going to
be introducing a few more heavy haters here in the
narratives that you can be reminded of. This isn't right.
I kot about that person too, Yeah, but I couldn't
agree more. The whole fight sequence with the prison very short.
I thought we're gonna get something a little bit more
blown up from that. But when we break that down
in the spoiler part, it'll be kind of funny to
just kind of nippick it because it's just so freaking quick.
Speaker 1: And like everything in the show, right, all the problems,
they get out of their problems really fast. And Jen
b that's my bigest con for this show is it's
very very easy. Where I feel like Boys, it's a
little it's a little harder like the State, the consequences
go on for a little longer, you know.
Speaker 2: They do. And there's a few things in here that,
particularly with Cipher, the moment they show him for the
first time in this episode, I'm like, oh, I'm really
surprised here at the reaction, which will break down in
spoilers because I totally. I thought with the way things
ended last week, they were setting something up specifically and
a certain narrative, and the theory stands. The theory stands
as soon as we break with oh it still stands. Oh, yes,
it still stands. I'm gonna break that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Spoilers. Yeah, but no, just like his plan though from Marie,
I feel like how they did things in the last
episode and then where things ended up here, it's just
I'm kind of confused. But yeah, no, I'm excited. I'm
really really excited to see where we're gonna go next episode.
And uh, I'm you know, they can't all be home Run,
so you gotta have a couple of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, yeah you are, I guess. So the
couple the couple of shows, I'd say, you know, have
I have some home you know, Dexter season one, home
Run after home Run, you know, but you know, rare cases.
But yeah, there we go. Well anything else done to words?
Speaker 2: Tay there?
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b So Taylor, let's start with him because he was
not actually in this episode this much, but explained to
me because you were talking with somebody who were explaining
to me this is cipher theory because I had heard
it and I agree with the kind of mind blown.
I do have a question this episode of why said
character would do this and what it would if it
would go against that, But what is this theory right
now that he have a cipher?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So Kat like just talking to my coworker, My
co is big on the show, and he just he
looks at me when I walk into work. He's like, oh, so,
like you know the like what they're doing here with
cipher right and and Thomas Kadalkin And I'm like, what.
Speaker 1: It's like, Well, yeah.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to know what this theory is
like again, you can skip this spoiler and just go
jump ahead a few minutes.
Speaker 1: It's not a he doesn't have he doesn't Your friend
here is not in the know or any he's not
in the know.
Speaker 2: But I think like it in me. Then I was like, oh,
the case is cracked. So, uh we learned in this
episode obviously that Thomas Cadualkin is still alive. They never
found the body. The body was burned in the fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so here we can reaffirm. Okay, well the body is here.
It's in this uh sealed, air tight chamber. It's being
manned by Cipher. And so my friend at work he's like, yeah,
so Cipher is just a body that's being can mind
controlled by the corpse, the burnt, charred corpse, which is
Thomas Godulkin. And I'm thinking, holy crap, it makes perfect
sense because you have godalkin who he's taking control of Cipher.
And when Sister Sage was there, Sister Sage was having
sex with Cipher but was making strong icon intact with
the burnt guy, and the burnt guy was just staring
at him. Uh, and are staring at her. And then
you've got Cipher injuring himself, like when he's talking to
Polarity and he just takes the knife and jabs it
into his hand. It doesn't care like it's just a
body that's being controlled by the main big baddie here,
Thomas Cadalkin. And so Cipher doesn't And again that's another
thing too, Marie couldn't detect v in him, couldn't detect
powers or whatever.
Speaker 1: Let's thought, my theory is right that as a human,
because that's a while, which I guess I still could
be this the vessel.
Speaker 2: I think that humans still the vessel. Yeah, so couldn't
detect that he had powers, and yet he had powers.
It's because he is a vessel and he's being controlled
and Thomas Cadalkin is just fucking oh. It makes sense
why he'd have such intense powers, because he's just O
g looking for God to your soups. Right, So there's
so many different things that are happening. And now in
this episode where you have Cipher doing the legs stretching
and whatnot, I mean, his goal is to keep the
body alive. That's his body. He's just ina in that
stretching scene.
Speaker 1: Why did he beat the ship of that body? Then
that's the only time I was like, I didn't think
that the theory.
Speaker 2: Is wrong because he's mad and here's nothing why not?
Speaker 1: Why not? Why wouldn't Cipher? Why wouldn't to Dulkin or
how you say his name sound like a fucking street
Fire anime character, But like, why would he have him
hit Cipher hit himself there? Why would he have him
hit his own body that he's trying to heal up.
Speaker 2: I think that this is a comparison to the scene
where you see him making Polarity slap himself. I think
here you can see he could have hit himself, yes,
like he could have made Cipher like hit the Cipher body.
But I think they did this intentionally to show like
why didn't he just do that towards his own book,
like to the burnt body. I'm trying to say this
where it's not gonna confusing. When you look at these
two side by side, you see Cipher doing it to
Polarity and he's just waving his arm making him do it,
and then you see him physically doing it to the
burnt body, which again indicates okay, like he can't mind
control himself. He's not mind controlling Kadulka because he is
that character, and he's doing it just because hit the
sees he sees. It's not a thing of like I'm
just gonna hurt my vessel because I'm pissed off. It's
the thing where he sees his body. He sees he's
standing there doing these stretches and whatnot, and he's angry
because the best chance he had it saving his body
just disappeared because of plot, armor and writing or whatever.
It just dis Murray disappeared. So he's pissed and he
sees his body, sees his weakend state, and he's mad.
He's like that's why he's saying like, oh you know,
you idiot, you failure. No, and he's like smacking his
body because he's just upset with the state that he's in.
So and that too, Marie escaping, that was all way
way too quick when I can't remember the chap's name,
but he just shows up out of the blue after
just kind of cutting them out last episode. So there's that, Sam,
But Sam, thank you. The thing I'll just I'll close
upon here. Then you can talk about the theory but
when Marie escapes and finds Annabath, and it's like, oh,
Annabeth is bleeding out, saves Anabath, and then it cuts
to them escaping successfully, and then Cipher is pissed off
about this and mad. Yeah, he starts slapping himself, as
I'm gonna put it. But what confuses me is, Okay,
did they just slit Annabeth's neck and just not expect
them to escape and save her? Was that not a
part of the plan to push it was a part
of the plan, But then why would Cipher not have
prepared better for that or be pissed that they actually escape?
Speaker 1: Like it's just no, Yeah, I agree, so the theory,
I actually do agree other than him hitting himself, I've
thrown that in there, and I think that might be
a way for them to just try to throw a
red herring. But all the lines up and almost to
the point where I'm not gonna be mad if it's
not that. But it's one of those cases where it
is tough where you hear like a better theory for
what actually ends up happening, which obviously we just went
through Deck's resurrection, right, and we had a lot of
those where there's good theories and they didn't end up
being true. It was X, Y and Z and then
we got some mess stuff. So just because there's good
theories out there doesn't mean that's the case. So oh
hang on, I get some nut cracks there. But yeah,
I think that there's true And then I think that's
the problem with the show is like, okay, so because
even Maria says that right of all, that's what Cipher
wanted me to do. Was heard it he killed her
so I could save her right and unlocked the powers
because that'd be the most compromised emotional state she could be. Right.
We see the all time in X Men and this
and other superhos stuff where it's always like when someone
is at their peak emotional, whether it's rage or just anger,
that's when their powers just disperse out their body.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But to your point, it's like, then why wasn't there
a swat team or why wasn't Viking guy outside this
jail waiting for them there?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And I guess you could say, like, okay, Sam was
the wrinkle into that, but I just feel like one
they didn't prepare for anybody else coming, like they never
thought that maybe polarity or even Sam or just they
might have a friend on the outside that might help them,
because he's already right away he phones like that girl
that's helping them, right, the girl that's pretending to be
anti Starlighter. He tricked them. He had Parla Polarity phone her,
remember that girl, and she gave the location up. So
it's like he knows that they have other friendlies out there.
So it's like not at the realm possibility someone would
get them. So one is okay, I guess that could
be the case, but why don't think of that? And
then even too, it's like in this facility, why is
there not anybody around on the outside?
Speaker 2: So I they kept making a point last episode, Jordan's like,
there's no one here. This is suspicious. It's like, well again,
they're intentionally letting them escape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where but it didn't seem like that
after the fact, right because it was intentional. I feel
like Cipher would know exactly where they are or have
like a tracker on them or something. Right, Even then,
why don't all these characters have a tracker on them?
Don't they like they put callers on them? Is there
no one like shooting them? With like a little like
used be stick or something, you know. So again, I
think that's what happens with the show, is they do
some big things, but they get out of it very easy,
just to kind of progress the plot. So I do
think that is still the weakest part of this show.
And it just continues to happen multiple times, and that
does take down the score for me quite a bit,
almost like a point five. Maybe not each time, but
just little nicks here and there. It's like again and again.
So watch it happens with the finale. But the same thing.
If this finale ends on a big cliffhanger, I'm not
gonna be rock and be like, oh my god, how
they gonna have it? Because season three might pick up
and they might just like that get out of it.
Even in this right, this happens and he calls Zeipher,
he gets on the phone where he or he gets
does he talk to no? He says to Polarity's what
a or wait? Did he talk to Marie at one
point when he was doing this pitch about all the
Maybe it's just Polarity, maybe I'm misremembering stuff, but he
was making the pitch about, hey, if you come back
I'll let all your friends go. If you train me,
they can go, or no way do whatever was was that?
What was he saying that to Plarity or did he
talk to Marie at all?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I don't think he talked to Marie.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think so in my see in
my head it felt like that. But either way, that
was his pitch right. So again then breaking out doing
all this stuff, going in the prison like for a
third for a second time. Now it's like, we put
you in this prison, but if you just come work
with me, everything's all good and you guys go back
to your normal life. So it's like it was weird
because a couple I guess it was last week when
sister Stage said that of you can't do it this way,
it's not gonna work, and he said, oh, we're gonna
do it differently this time, not really like the thing is,
you put him in prison, they escape and think, okay,
it says the really last warning though this time and
they get out of it right. So it is again
it's tough because I like Camish Laker link later. I
like that character, but it's just they feel like a
very easy, easy beatable kind of boss right now, you know, so, uh,
but we'll see. I hope that theory is true and
I hope we learn about it. But yeah, in this episode,
we were talking about right this last episode to go
into this episode, we were talking about Victoria Newman because
we're trying to figure out who killed the one. I
still can't remember the full context of why Billy Butcher
did that. I couldn't remember if it was out of
his control or what. But yeah, she died and now
her daughter.
Speaker 2: I think it's out of his control because I was
reading into it and it's snapped or something like the
tumor is sentient.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because I thought there's a couple of times
because I did not love that season. I think we
both kind of had as the weakest. But I thought
there's a couple of storyline times where they made almost
like the Hulk, where he would like wake up and
not know what happened, right Butcher with everything that's happening,
with the stuff that's in him. So I think that's
one thing. But yeah, so she's there with John Carla's posito,
and I get a character that I'm kind of kind
of like Kate. I'm hoping that he is now pretty
much on the good side. Like it's tough because also
he was like working with Vault for a long time
and doing shady stuff, but I always felt like he tried.
He wasn't trying to good stuff, but I felt like
he was going toe tote with Homeland or other characters.
But right now, it seems like because even that case
where Marie's like, hey, if you don't if it's either
me and my friends or nothing, He's like, all right, fine,
and of course that's what he wants. But he didn't
seem like super sinister. I was like, fuck Like, it
seemed like he was somewhat understanding, not in the way
that he was thrilled about. Don't get me wrong, I'm
not saying he's gonna be fucking skipping in a good
guy like I still could do questionable stuff, but it's
the same way as like Butcher and even Tho. All
boys characters do questionable things, but they're still trying to
fight for i'd say, the good side, right or the
anti evil suit side. So I'm hoping that's the case.
But at the same point, my instincts tell him that
he's gonna betray us at some point and do something
or for his greater good. But he is pat around
with us here, and I wonder if he and the
daughter if they know that Billie Butcher's one that killed
his mom, because that's the other thing where I don't
think they do not yet though, right, I feel like
they'll know at some point. And that's where it's like
the same thing where he could be on our side,
but he's gonna learn that information that he's.
Speaker 2: The daughter was there, wasn't wasn't that right? And she
was there she I thought she did, because she got
like knocked out to the side.
Speaker 1: I thought, like that's why maybe she knocked out unconsciously she.
Speaker 2: Was there with the mom. And then there was the
bodyguard there with the mom, and then Butcher is like
technacal thing it's tumor, came out like knocked like grabbed
the mom. And then I thought that daughter like charged
at or had him to like attack, and then she
got knocked off and then knows that the mom dies.
I mean, you'd have to assume it was Butcher.
Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, so then they might know, and
that's what might put them across for uh, like are
the bad guys? Right? So yeah, yeah, uh yeah, anything.
So I didn't throw you anything to say on the
daughter being in there and Esposo, she made the says,
obviously the heroes were under some trouble, and then she
made this say with her really weird fucking power.
Speaker 2: I I again, he's just every time I see him,
I feel like he's always just the same cold, calculated
character and the way he talks and presents himself. But man,
I would eat a fucking ftata that he were to
make any day. He was just cooking in that kitchen.
I was like, I just want to join him for
a good meal. And I love how he's talking like
he paid all this money so that he could learn
how to cook, and rarely he gets to demonstrate that
when he with people, which is really really funny. But yeah, no,
I dig it. I dig that a lot. And I'm
happy that he's here because he definitely adds a whole
aesthetic and a whole vibe to it. But I mean,
we had him in the one episode. Is it gonna
come back next week? I probably not, probably the one after,
so yeah.
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, Well, I guess it depends though,
because we don't know, like they could have some flashes
to the characters, because obviously just Maria and Kate left right,
so yes, they could, Uh you know, am I saying
Maria or it's just Marie actually great? Yeah, just Maria.
I saying it wrong full time. Sorry, but yeah, no,
I think there's a chance he could be in both.
Episode's definitely finale, but he could be in both. So
we'll see what happens there and then in that segment. Yeah,
And that's the only thing other than what we talk
about with some mistakes. I get what they're doing, but
the whole marine or sister not getting along on fighting
and stuff, I get. It's just kind of trophy where
I just I know where we're gonna go with this,
where eventually she's gonna understand her and then they're gonna
be friends and they're gonna try to get a relationship
going at the I just wish to me it's such
the easiest thing of Hey, I have these powers because
our parents get like sign off to do experiments on me.
That's one and then two of my powers popped up
because she said she got a period and she didn't
know what was going on. That's not her fault. It's
like anytime you like, obviously it's tragic and sad, but
to me, that's just like in this world now with
all these things going on, it would have been just
like last couple of weeks ago, if oh god, what's
the I always forget them, the they them, what's their
Jordan name? Jordan, Like, if he killed Marie, that would
have been the same thing, right that they didn't kill
Marie they were possessed and not saying she was possessed,
but kind of the same way where her powers just
popped off and she had no idea, Her parents didn't
prepp he didn't tail or anything. So I just I
know that conversation's coming or some other characters canna be like,
you know what really happened?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So I kind of wish there was like a senior
two of some tension and then in this episode it
would have been, Hey, I'm gonna tell you what happened
and then let's get that. I'm not saying the need
to be buddy buddy right away, but just like you
ruin my life and everything bad that happens is because
of you, It's like, no, it's because of augh, and
it's because of all this stuff, like I just it's
a storyline that I really hope doesn't going for too
long because I just I have no interests like unless
they do unless they do something where for some reason,
which you feel like they kind of blew their little
last year if the sister was a joined vault right
and go against her. But it's like they kind of
did that with Sam and Kate last season, and they're
kind of already walking that back. So it's like, Okay,
we've seen that storyline of friends we know joined the
bad guys and then redeem themselves. So I don't know,
it's not that they're bad acting or anything like that.
It's still ritten enough. Fine, it's just a trope that
I just like, we see so much and we know
where it's going, So I don't really have much interest
in the storyline of I never want to see you again,
you know, that type of stuff. But how you feeling
the other thing too. They reveal that the soup or
she's a soup and she's a pre cog so she
can sum Also, your powers are very light right now,
but she can sometimes see into the future. Seems like
only like a few seconds, you know, obviously, maybe that
could change in the future make you see more. Right now,
it feels like it's like a five to ten second
delay where she'll see something coming and it happens. But yeah,
what do you think about the sister character, the sister woes,
the trouble, her being a soup now, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, it totally makes sense with her having powers,
I mean imagining she probably kept it very secret from
her parents too. While her parents were alive at the time,
they wanted no one to know about it, So very
different power from Marie. But I'm yeah, I I like it.
I like that she is a soup. I like that
that's going to be kind of the dynamic here moving
forward with her and Marie and just.
Speaker 1: Kind of which though even though because she's a soup,
she almost be more understanding of marine situation. You know.
That's the other thing too, where I feel like.
Speaker 2: She's well, yes, yes, but it's a very different power
right where she's just it's something she's suppressed too as
best as she could. And she doesn't have that sympathy
relation because her power didn't kill, you know, her parents.
So maybe she just resents Marie that much more because
maybe at the time she had a precognitive moment where
she saw Marie kill her parents and then she had
to actually see it happen next like in real time.
So I don't know, just you kill the parents, that's
that's it's a big one. But I liked I like
that and Beetha's powis. I think it's gonna be very interesting.
I like when Viking Man was attacking and her and
Emma and Kate were all in the back room of
the library and Anabeth is like.
Speaker 1: Aren't you guys soup, It's like, what are you doing.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, we can't really do anything here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think, uh yeah, I guess there's
anything time with Ema. So we had Sam, which I
was happy because last week I said, oh, I thought
they're sent up for Sam to make the save, and
he did. He just did it this week where he
drove the wall van got them out of here. He
seems like, we'll see what happens with it. But when
he's talking to them, he's like, yeah, I'm on new
medication now I'm doing better. It's just like, well, that
was sure easy. You know. We went from Kate suppressing
the path like his like bad visions to not knowing
what he's gonna do next. And he hit his dad
last week too. I got some new drugs. I'm all good.
It's like, oh that easy, Hey, we like I just
like you didn't try anything else. So I kind of
hope it's something that maybe this is like a short
term thing where it's working and then it decides like
it only nullifies it for a bit and then it
doesn't work and he has his episodes because if he
if this is going forward, Sam just like, oh, I
got a tone for the bad stuff. I didn't. He's
just kind of good unless he doesn't have drugs. Again,
very easy fixed for the show when they were especially
last season. I'm kind of making to be a basket
case right of like you can never really trust what
he was gonna do. And he did the same thing
as a butcher thing or the whole thing we talk
about where he would do attacks and wake up and
everyone be dead and he'd have no idea. So felt
that was kind of easy. But I do like the
route they're taking with Emma, where who knows who Emma's
gonna date for a little bit. But I feel like
these characters at some point are gonna end up back
together when everything's right. They even talked about that because
it seemed like he was wanting up. But I kind
of said, like, oh, when the time's right.
Speaker 2: Or he dies, I could see him. Yeah, it doesn't
get that satisfaction of reconnecting with him or being with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be him, because it can't be her.
I feel like, if you kill her, you hurt the
show a lot where Sam I like the character, but
I don't know that that is a good suggestion because
I don't don't know what because he needed to do
a sacrifice. Play don't know what the story is for
him going forward now, right because obviously it was to
find you know, also for his brother last season to
get out take a de vaut. Then he turned bad
with Kate's help a little bit. But then after he
broke away from that, he had the you know, made
his parents. Yeah, yeah, he had the full circle go home,
see everything talk with them. He's made go with Emma.
Even though he said, oh yeah, Kate's a bad person,
he's still going help to save her. And now that's
what I mean. That's where I thought, Okay, he's a
fun guy to have on the team because Yeah, he's
there to save you, but you don't know what He
could snap at any time. But now if he's like, oh,
I'm all good now I'm working through, it's like, well,
that kind of takes the loose cannon hulk explosive element away.
So that's where it's like, Yeah, what else can you
have this character do right other than maybe just try
and get him back. I'm not sure. So I still
don't know if they would kill him off yet because
I still think because they lost that character already this season,
I don't know if they want to lose another character
right now but maybe in the future. And I did
kind of like his jokes going on with a bugging
em about the guy, so and again that's where that's
what I liked in the obviously much different situation of
just a love interest. But that wasn't a thing I'm like,
who's this guy? Oh, I guess you're talking about It
was almost like a joke, right, Like he has no
right to really be mean jealous about it. He's kinda
like you can tell he's jealous, but he's kinda like, oh,
we should mess like he's messing with her a bit.
So that's what I like that, clearly there's a connection,
but we don't have a whole twenty minute plot line
of like I thought, you know, we were something special.
It's like they clearly are you know, moved on a
little bit, even though there's still some feelings there. But
so do you think, uh, do you think Sam would
die this season or you think you'll make it up
this tear?
Speaker 2: I think he would die this season.
Speaker 1: I really they do two characters.
Speaker 2: I think, so I think at the end, Wow, they're
gonna they're gonna have to make a sacrifice play or
something like that. It's just it's gonna further Emma's development
along much much more in the narrative. So it just
I think it fits.
Speaker 1: Hmm. Okay, let's see. We talked about those guys here,
we talked about Scipher. We didn't see Sister stage again,
so I'm wondering if we're gonna see her at all
again in the season. I kind of hoping at least
for the finale maybe, but we'll see there. What is
there anything else? Some polarity is still just Yeah, that's
another story that I wanted a little bit more fleshed
out where because remember we talked about Hey, or at
least I had the issue of his son dies and
he comes back to school. Seems like there's not much
hubbable others like yeah, welcome back, right. But then they
did have given that scene with Cipher and he was
acting very suspicious and Cipher called him out, but it
didn't seem like a full like Cipher knew he was
trying to get some information, but it didn't seem like
a full like you're a bad guy now where now
he just knows like, oh, you're working with those people
and I can't trust you and nada da. So I
don't know. That to me is more a character. If
I had to pick a character that sacrificed himself, I
feel like Polarity would be that because they like they
they already have like a condition, right, They're already are
on the way. And once you do season two of
him kind of maybe giving his son vengeance, I don't
know what more you could do. And I guess I
would say too befret to about that where the idea
between Kate or Marie healing or sister to bring her
back to life. The idea is that Cipher said this
to Polarity that they could use her powers to heal him.
He doesn't really believe it, doesn't really trust it. But
then Kate also went to that conclusion at this end
of the episode, saying, Hey, you could heal my powers
and then we could take down Cipher together. Do you
think that's something now because Marie walks away. I guess
there's two things to ask you. One of the things,
we have a polarity now that you know Cipher just
knows he's fully on the good team or the opposing team.
And then with at the end, when Marie decides to
leave everybody and Kate follows, do you take that as
they're gonna go somewhere else on the next episode Marie
is going to give her her powers back and fix it.
Or you think Marie is not giving her powers back
because she doesn't trust Kate with her full.
Speaker 2: Power, so she's going to give her powers back. I
think Kate made a full uh realistic logical point. God
think Kate is like a counter to Cipher's powers. You know,
they both share similar you know, superabilities right like? And
I think there's there's a whole it's interesting to see
in this show compared to the Boys, the relations between
these characters whether it's Victoria Newman and Marie or now
it's Cipher and Kate. But these characters, they are like
the younger versions that have the same powers, right or
at least similar ones.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and then what about Polarity, what's his
fate this season? Right now?
Speaker 2: And two episodes like I don't know because like he's
just having seizures and he's not doing so well, but
then it's like he dishes out some new power and
it's I think that's another interesting thing is because you
have Cipher trying to control him and like do like
his hand thing, but it's like his connection to using
Cipher as a vessel was like disrupted. And again, Polarities,
he was out sourcing like his energy or whatever, and
I think he disrupted the signal. So Cipher, like Godalkin
was able to kind of tune in and control Cipher's
hand to make him smack himself or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, terrible. Yeah, is there anything else? We haven't touched
upon any characters in lines A. Jordan's kind of scared
of Marie a little bit, just not scared of her,
but just scared of now knowing what the power set
of is. Just kind of you know, Marie says nothing's
gonna change, but Jordan's completely right where this power, like,
I feel like people want her, whether it's Cipher anybody,
even the boys, like you'd want her on our team.
So I think that. And again it wasn't like a fight,
it was her being worried, but it was just that
to me felt genuine of oh yeah, this is like
this does change everything. And you having a power where
you could literally potentially resurrect someone. I'm sure it's supposed
to be like right close when they die, but still
the fact you could do that at all, that does,
you know, could pose a bad fate for everyone, including Jordan.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I agree. I can't think of anything
else though.
Speaker 1: Okay, well there we go. So that is it. We'll
be back next week for the penultimate episode. I think,
just that, right, So yeah, just that and then yeah,
because we've got some other stuff going on next week
with as an interview at this So yeah, we'll be
back next week talking about the penultimate episode, episode seven,
and I promise you it'll not be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye,