WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.439 --> 00:00:04.440 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:09.880 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services ensure 3 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:11.679 your most prized possessions. 4 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:16.359 Thank good enough to do it, everybody. Welcome to Eye 5 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:18.399 on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 6 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:21.960 Steve Roberta, You're Dave Silver, and we've got our guy 7 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:26.640 Kobe at the gate here keeping control. I hope they 8 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:29.960 hope you guys are hearing us. We're doing starting off nice, Dave. 9 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.119 I'm doing well. Good to be back again. 10 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:36.520 Kind of the post game situation after the big basketball 11 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:38.000 game last night, So what a game? 12 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:39.920 A lot to talk about. I was talking to somebody 13 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:42.240 who's at the game last night during the game and 14 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:44.240 after the game. What a to me? 15 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:46.479 I don't know who lost your opinion a second, but 16 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:48.880 to me, it was a bunch of piranhas going at 17 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:50.159 it one and two. 18 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:53.079 It was a sloppy, good fun game. Yeah it was. 19 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:54.840 It was a very evenly matched game. 20 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.240 The oddsmakers had it right on with like a you know, 21 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:00.359 one and a half point difference, and you know it's funny. 22 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:02.880 I was thinking, well, Florida is actually gonna beat Houston 23 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:05.760 at Houston's game, and they were playing tough defense and 24 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:09.120 kind of making things ugly, and nobody really shot very well. 25 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:13.480 Nobody could really you know, overpower anybody. You know, Houston 26 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:15.280 had the lead, but you know it was kind of 27 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:17.920 just hanging there for Florida to take. 28 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:22.319 Anybody smart from watching Saturday's game could have predicted this 29 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:25.920 type of game because they saw two like this on Saturday. 30 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:27.959 Yeah, it was. It was fun to watch it, you know, 31 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:32.079 anytime a game is close, you know, it was. It 32 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:32.439 was good. 33 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:32.680 It was. 34 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:34.799 It was good TV and good to watch. Yeah. 35 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.400 No, no, and drama till the end. Unfortunately, a bad 36 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:39.719 play for Houston, A couple of bad plays for Houston. 37 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:40.519 Yeah at the end. 38 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:43.480 Yeah, I mean they you know, they hesitated a big 39 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:45.920 time obviously on that last on the last possession. That 40 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:47.920 should have just fired it up there and try to 41 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.079 get the offensive rebund because they were doing that almost 42 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:52.680 all game anyway, so that could have been their chance 43 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:54.400 to maybe you know, steal the win or at least 44 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:54.879 tie it up. 45 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:57.319 I am not complaining to Dave. I know you did well. 46 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:59.359 I did well yesterday. Yeah, I said it all week 47 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:02.079 last week. What I had Bet and Jay Owes meat 48 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:06.719 dinner Now that's always a beating jay on anything is 49 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:07.400 fine for me. 50 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.159 Yeah, you know, I think I hate to say this. 51 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:12.000 I mean we were talking to Ryan Hanson yesterday and 52 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:13.400 he was saying, you know, all of a sudden, I'm 53 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.800 kind of rooting for the Big twelve, And that's kind 54 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:17.919 of how I felt too. I was hoping a little 55 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.199 bit just because you know, they're now part of that 56 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.680 conference and we get to see these guys, we'll become 57 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:24.840 sure they'll be coming into McHale again next year. 58 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.879 And their favorite their favorite. Next year, there are number 59 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:32.080 two too. I think there are number one in the 60 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.520 ESPN Early Early Pole, Early top twenty five. Yeah, their 61 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.639 second betting favorite. And I want to say Duke was 62 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.560 the first favorite, but Duke was rated number ten. I 63 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:43.400 think it was just off the top next year. 64 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:45.800 For next year, they're going to lose three guys, probably 65 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:47.280 right off the bat Duke. 66 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:48.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 67 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.879 But you know how they rebuilt Arizona was seventeen, and 68 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:52.840 that's of course without the rosters being fixed. 69 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.280 Right now, Yeah, I mean, now it all begins again. 70 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:57.599 It's going to basically be like just pick up the confetti, 71 00:02:57.639 --> 00:02:59.199 throw it up in the air and see you know, 72 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.680 who lands where, And I'm sure it's the mad rush 73 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:03.400 is underway. 74 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.400 So do you get more joy out of this season 75 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:11.120 or not this season, this basketball seasons or the football seasons? 76 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:14.599 Probably basketball. 77 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:19.400 I mean it just culminates with this month of you know, drama. Basically, 78 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:21.439 I think it's kind of cool. I mean, I'm not 79 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.680 used to really the big college football playoff situation. I 80 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:26.719 don't really have anything invested in any of these teams 81 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:30.879 just yet. Maybe someday it'll happen here. But with basketball, 82 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.680 it's something you know as an Arizona resident and you 83 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:36.439 know you have a reporter for all those years. 84 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:37.879 I still get caught up in that. 85 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.840 Yeah, and this is the bread and butter of the city, 86 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:45.759 of the University, of the fans. A little bread and 87 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:49.159 butter has been with the women's program. Today we're gonna 88 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.319 have Joan bon Messini, former you of a women's basketball coach, 89 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:54.840 obviously now turned TV analyst. 90 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:55.919 Colored person. 91 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.400 I think she's the She's the colored person, right with with. 92 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.280 Cindy brun Sindy usually yes, but yeah, John, of course 93 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:06.080 he's done. She's done a nice job of making the 94 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:08.919 transition over to the broadcasting. But she did the pack 95 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:10.639 twelve games and she's been doing it a while and 96 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:12.120 then stuck with the ESPN plus. 97 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.319 So yeah, she's getting her chance to talk. Well, see 98 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:18.079 how deep we go into the idea situation. Obviously she 99 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:21.560 was her mentor and her coach, coach, and prob they're 100 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.040 pretty very close. I'm gonna ask for the same question 101 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.240 they asked Rhino yesterday about, uh, you have a person 102 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:31.040 making decent money, uh, and how do you keep them happier? 103 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:33.800 Do you even care? You're talking about players? Players? 104 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:37.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a different, different era 105 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:39.839 and she was, you know, in a different different spot 106 00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:41.680 where she was coaching when you know she had a 107 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:43.519 you know, an a Da Barnes and players like that. 108 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.199 You know, she's in that collection of coaches that were 109 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.000 brought in by said Dempsey too. So that'd be a 110 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:52.600 good thing to hear with. Yeah, she feels about Yeah, 111 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.040 I think so. Yeah, well, okay, I thought maybe living good. 112 00:04:55.160 --> 00:05:00.720 We'll check be sure. Okowski, She replays Okowski, Okaykowski. Maybe 113 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:02.800 Olkowski was at the end she fired. You're probably right 114 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:04.720 because you had to be like ninety two ish, yeah, 115 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:08.000 ninety two okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because Cedric came 116 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:11.639 in well what in ninety three. Yeah, that's what we're 117 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.000 talking about with, right, Yeah, Okay, we're gonna have her 118 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.199 at three three, seventeen, three eighteen around there, and then 119 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:19.519 at the four to seventeen how we're going to talk 120 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.199 to Aaron Torres from Fox Sports. He was at the 121 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.319 games last night and we'll have him in. He's obviously 122 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.600 covers Arizona very heavily, and then we'll talk about the 123 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:29.319 national seed. 124 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:30.079 Uh. 125 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.199 He loves as Sean Miller and he loves oh yeah. 126 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.560 He's a he's a defender and frightly, so I guess 127 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:38.160 you know, he was the one that kind of believed 128 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:39.319 everything he was saying at the time. 129 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.600 That's gonna be an interesting story to watch too, what 130 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.360 he can do and there in Texas with his you know, 131 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.800 recruiting ability and his background and yeah, you know, they've 132 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:49.199 got all the resources in the world. 133 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:50.600 You know, how is he going to make out here 134 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:52.160 in the next couple of years. 135 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:56.319 Yeah, he's only fifty five, so well was young, and yeah, 136 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:57.879 you still have a lot of wins. 137 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.519 Obviously we'll see a lot of success. So there's that. 138 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.720 Uh, you were talking about the the thing that we 139 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:07.839 should have come out yesterday, the legislation still on hold, 140 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:08.720 on hold. 141 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.639 Yeah, there there there's a judge that's going to decide 142 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:13.480 all this and that's still on hold. So I guess 143 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:16.399 we'll just have to, you know, let her sort things out. 144 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:18.439 But it's gonna be it's gonna be a big deal 145 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.480 for every university. The key couple of key things that 146 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:26.800 are missing or delaying. You don't have to, yeah, I mean, 147 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.600 dog in the ice, make sure the language can just. 148 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:31.079 Make sure that. 149 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:31.319 Yeah. 150 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:31.920 I don't want to. 151 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.000 I don't want to speak out of turn exactly, especially 152 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.480 when it comes to the law. But I think everybody 153 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:38.839 kind of knows that twenty million issues going to be 154 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.439 coming just about every athletic department and how they're going 155 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:42.279 to vv that up. 156 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:46.079 And we talked to Rocky and she said, you know 157 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:47.800 it's soon to be seen. That brought up the time 158 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:52.279 of line thing. Where does the the the divide of 159 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:54.079 money sit with you? 160 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.000 Well, I mean it's obviously they with football brings in 161 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:58.360 the most, so they're going to get the most and 162 00:06:58.360 --> 00:06:59.800 they have the most players, so that's kind of what 163 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:00.839 they decided to do. 164 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:02.040 I think it's like seventy five. 165 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:04.639 Yeah, and then the basketballs are going to get kind 166 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:09.519 of the next wrong men's for sure, and then everything 167 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.920 else can be kind of spread out baseball, softball, swimming, golf, 168 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:14.160 and guess. 169 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:16.319 What those teams do. They don't bring much. They don't 170 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:17.480 bring any at all. 171 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.279 Track and you know, yeah, I mean softball and baseball 172 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:21.959 get fans and stuff, but. 173 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.399 Those are losses, those are lost leaders, you know want these. 174 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.279 And women's hoops, I mean maybe still I don't know, 175 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:28.240 it used to really be bad. 176 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:30.360 No, no, they're still got better still in the red. 177 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.600 But yeah, yeah, and that was one of the ideas, 178 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:37.319 big complaints, you know that we're only getting this uh 179 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:41.360 and she'll be able to get more at SMU given 180 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.759 the given the nil and the backers. 181 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:45.319 Right right. 182 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.519 You know that's where you know, the view of a 183 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:49.360 and they know they need to kind of pick up 184 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:51.399 the pace when it comes to the fundraising, and that's 185 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:54.199 gonna you know, maybe keep these coaches from going off 186 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:56.240 to an SMU of the world or any of some 187 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:58.759 of the other schools that have huge endowments and huge 188 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:00.839 funds of money available. 189 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:03.920 When you when you were doing your fundraising and you 190 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:08.439 went around the country, you were talking to UA alums, 191 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:13.160 right right, did you kind of felt did you did 192 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:18.399 you kind of feel as a as a like a 193 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:20.879 second fiddle? This is this is a dumb question because 194 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:22.759 I was thinking about it and then now I just 195 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:24.920 lost my strength. Thought, like, you go into Dallas. I'm 196 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:26.199 sure you went to Dallas a time or two. 197 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:26.879 Actually I didn't. 198 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.439 You didn't, Okay, So so it's just goes okay, and 199 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.600 there's a lot of alums up there, right, but did 200 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:33.200 you compete? 201 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:34.480 And I'm sure this is not the case. 202 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:37.000 Maybe it was Stanford because they have a kid at Stanford, 203 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.519 or you know what I'm saying, they have a diverse 204 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:41.679 or a conflicting. 205 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:44.879 Issue, right, I mean basically, you begin that process by 206 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:47.879 looking at the alum and mainly what do they major in? 207 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.480 Maybe you can find out some background about them, like 208 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.679 what their job is now because it's just available on 209 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:57.279 a LinkedIn or websites and things like that. But you know, 210 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.840 almost every time you'd be surprised at what else you 211 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:01.039 once you meet them. 212 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:02.519 You know, you've got they've got. 213 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:04.840 Other kids going to private schools or paying you know, 214 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.440 seventy five thousand dollars a year to send their kid 215 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.600 to SMU or to wherever you know, University of Pacific 216 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.519 or someplace, so you would. 217 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:14.440 Run into that quite a bit. 218 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:16.440 So it wasn't like a given that just because these 219 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:18.720 people were successful and they were lums, that they were 220 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:19.799 going to give back to the school. 221 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:23.320 It just doesn't work that How how this is another question, 222 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:27.759 how how success not successful? But well, yeah, successful, I'll 223 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:29.759 give you ten ten targets. 224 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:34.279 Yeah, if you could get a meeting with two of them, 225 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:37.960 real successful, just a meeting meeting. Yeah, a lot of 226 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.360 people just aren't interested. They just know, you know, that 227 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:42.480 you're there to just you know, kind of see what's 228 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:45.120 going on in there if they want to stay connected 229 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:47.039 in some way to the to the college. 230 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:52.200 Just getting the meeting that was a miracle sometimes soldered. 231 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:54.399 You said two, and then I guess if you get 232 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.519 one of those two, that's a. 233 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.039 And you don't even know what you're going to get 234 00:09:58.039 --> 00:09:59.799 out of the two meetings. That's the you know, that's 235 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:04.720 the difficult thing of raising money here anywhere. Maybe it's 236 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:06.759 a little bit easier on some of the bigger schools 237 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.440 that have you know, some pretty wealthy alums that are 238 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:11.200 just going to okay, we're going to here, we'll write 239 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.720 you a check. But usually the check isn't nearly as much 240 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:14.600 as you expect it to be. 241 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.559 So so uh, given that you're not in that business 242 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:21.679 forever and you happened upon it in the last part 243 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:22.159 of your life. 244 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:26.360 Yeah, did you? Did you take no very well before 245 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.519 you got into this business? Uh? Not really, but you 246 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.679 you definitely have to learn. I would never survive that 247 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:34.320 business now. 248 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:37.559 Usually the good thing about it is, even though it 249 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:40.919 might have been a no today, they're still going to 250 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.240 be there and you can still work and maybe go 251 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:45.000 back to them in a couple of years. Say, listen, 252 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:46.559 you know, I know things are going to be changing 253 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.240 in your life. Your your kids are going to be 254 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.639 graduating from these expensive colleges. You're not gonna have to 255 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:53.639 send your kids to private high schools. YadA, YadA. You know, 256 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:55.440 would it be good? Would it be okay? 257 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:56.480 If I gave you a call in a couple O 258 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:59.000 case how it works? And I'm sure? Okay? 259 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:04.399 So I'm I'm alum b or a. Yeah, Dave, I 260 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:06.320 really it was great to meet you, Dave. I saw you. 261 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:07.960 I saw you on TV when I was at school. 262 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.639 Good to see you, good guy. Uh, but uh, don't 263 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:13.519 ever call you again. 264 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.480 Did you hear that, oh yeah, really something. Usually they 265 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:19.799 weren't that mean about it. Usually it's just like we're 266 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:23.000 not really interested. You know, Uh, I appreciate your you're 267 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:24.759 reaching out. You know, I had a great time at 268 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:26.039 the u of A Da Da Da da Da, and 269 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.679 I would sometimes just take that as the end. But 270 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:30.519 then there's other ways you can sort of work your 271 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:34.399 way back into their good graces, sending them information, you know, 272 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.320 sending them links. I mean, there's all kinds of places 273 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:40.759 available just around the U of A campus that has, 274 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:44.600 you know, have news items if you will, that you 275 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:47.480 can just send them. Hey, you know, you majored in history. 276 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:49.720 Here's you know, here's the latest newsletter from the Department 277 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:50.159 of History. 278 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.159 So I asked, and I've been leading these questions into 279 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.320 this direction because I'm assuming that, uh that M I 280 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.639 L and all that they're having the same issues, n 281 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.639 I L. Well, trying to get the same money. 282 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:05.679 Probably Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't I think, you know, 283 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:07.879 I'm probably not a good person to talk about that 284 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:09.320 because I never really did it, but I would love 285 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:12.200 to hear how they approach it. You know, a couple 286 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:15.480 of people approached me saying, oh, the nil people gave 287 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:17.720 me a call what is this all about? And I 288 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:20.240 would have to kind of backtrack and come back to 289 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.279 campus and try to find out, Well, who called them? 290 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:23.639 I don't, you know, I don't even know who these 291 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:25.000 people are, so it was a little bit of a 292 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:29.120 different group. But I think from what I understand, athletics 293 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.519 is going to be involved more with NIL going forward, 294 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.440 especially with this new ruling going on, and they're going 295 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:37.559 to be allowed to raise money for NIL. 296 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:39.000 And they weren't before. 297 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.799 I don't think so well, because now they have to 298 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.120 find twenty million dollars, right, they have to fight twenty 299 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.200 million the user, the flight department, right on top of 300 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.639 what if they don't make twenty million profit twenty million 301 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:51.320 good question. 302 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:55.120 I don't know, it would be good. 303 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.000 I mean, I don't know if they're willing to talk 304 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:58.200 about it, but it would be a good guess. 305 00:12:58.320 --> 00:12:59.440 Yeah, I'll just kind. 306 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.480 Of explain when this passes, we'll get ahold of our 307 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:04.600 NIL people that we've had on before, the ray Wells 308 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:06.679 of the world, if you're still there, and talk real 309 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.360 quick about what's going on, because it's it's not a 310 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.399 it's not a great situation. 311 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:13.919 Yeah, I mean, it's just to me, it's confusing in 312 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:17.120 that these athletes are so mobile. You know, Okay, you 313 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.120 know you get another Omar Ballow and you're gonna give 314 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:20.720 him all this money to go to Indiana and then 315 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:21.879 is he gonna leave again? 316 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:25.080 And yeah, what happens is that million dollars creaso. 317 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:28.759 Yeah, he's been here, he's been washed West Virginia, Kentucky, 318 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:30.600 now Cincinnati, and. 319 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.000 He's probably not getting a ton of money. 320 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:33.879 I mean, he's getting some, but I bet you he's 321 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.360 not making what's a ton of money, not like a 322 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:38.600 million dollars for six figures? 323 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:40.399 Maybe? Well, I think he was at West Virginia. I 324 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:42.679 don't know, I don't know. I bet he's not. 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