Speaker 1: Here with the Kyle rittenhouse Man. Thanks. We just ran
Speaker 1: into a fucking weird situation. We'll start with that.
Speaker 2: What a weird situation.
Speaker 1: I just I can't believe that happened. We were, you know,
Speaker 1: Randy Guatur's gym, Rushia go all the time I went,
Speaker 1: you know, to meet Sean Strickland. We were sitting there
Speaker 1: hanging talking out. I'm not gonna say the guy's name.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure having a video, I'm not sure for
Speaker 1: a post I got I think about that because guy's
Speaker 1: my friend, a black guy. I told you he's a
Speaker 1: liberal guy there, and he tried kicking you out of
Speaker 1: the gym.
Speaker 2: It was insane, insane, like.
Speaker 1: Because it's not his gym, tryaning Gatori's gym, it's you're
Speaker 1: my guest, which you know, it's complete disrespect for me
Speaker 1: to try to kick you out. He has no authority
Speaker 1: to do that. He was like throwing a tempertance and
Speaker 1: trying to over and to kick you out. Told Seohn
Speaker 1: Strickland told the other coach there, throw a tantrum. I
Speaker 1: liked the guys. It was weird, like we're friends, but
Speaker 1: I felt just so disrespectful. That's but I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: leave after he said that, so I waited there for
Speaker 1: a few but I was also getting so mad that
Speaker 1: I felt like I was about to like go fight him.
Speaker 1: I don't want to fight my friend. And he wouldn't
Speaker 1: look you in the eyes either.
Speaker 2: No, he wouldn't look me in the eyes. And that's
Speaker 2: the part that made me really upset. He wouldn't say
Speaker 2: anything to me and try to have a conversation with me,
Speaker 2: because I think if he would have just sat down
Speaker 2: with me, opened his mind, he may have realized that
Speaker 2: I wasn't this white supremacist nazi that he thinks I am.
Speaker 1: I guess he's black. You must maybe think she's shot
Speaker 1: three black people.
Speaker 2: I mean, he could think that, but everything's on videos.
Speaker 2: Three white people who violently attacked me.
Speaker 1: Two Jews, a white person but close they look white.
Speaker 2: One of them who anally raped five nine year old
Speaker 2: little boys. The other one was a woman beater. The
Speaker 2: other one was an armed robber. And these were violent
Speaker 2: individuals who tried to take my life away from me.
Speaker 1: That rapist should have been fucking shot. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say Amiel should have been shot, But
Speaker 1: the one that rapes kid. I mean that situation of
Speaker 1: south defense that they all should have been but with
Speaker 1: that rape. But how could someone like rape? Would you?
Speaker 1: How many kids? Did you say? Five?
Speaker 2: Nine year old little boy?
Speaker 1: And he's fucking out of prison. That pisses me off.
Speaker 1: That guy should have been fucking executed.
Speaker 2: He only got twelve years in prison for what he did.
Speaker 2: And it's just discussing that he was ever allowed to
Speaker 2: be released back onto the streets and be part of society,
Speaker 2: because truth be told, if he was never released, the
Speaker 2: incident would never have apped. I would never have.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: He's the first one who attacked me and grabbed my
Speaker 2: gun and tried to rip it out of my hands
Speaker 2: and attempted to take my life away from me.
Speaker 1: How could our society let someone that rapes fucking five
Speaker 1: children out of prison and try to give you.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a failed justice system. That's a that's a
Speaker 2: justice system meant to protect people who harm children. And
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate because you see it all the time. You
Speaker 2: see people on the registry, and I think, if you're
Speaker 2: on the sex registry, you should be in prison. There
Speaker 2: should be no registry.
Speaker 1: Life or death. Panos, Yep, you know, it's just it's
Speaker 1: one of those things. I don't think your father, but
Speaker 1: I'm a father. It's like there's nothing, but you still understand.
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than these people that are harmed children,
Speaker 1: absolutely and are innocent. It's just pure sickness. There's no
Speaker 1: for I'll forgive most sayings. That's something I could never
Speaker 1: forgive under any circumstances.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's unforgivable to bring harm to any children,
Speaker 2: let alone five, and then to be released back into
Speaker 2: society only to chase down a minor. At the time
Speaker 2: I was seventeen, I looked thirteen with a gun and
Speaker 2: try to take my life away from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I first kind of got in politics, like
Speaker 1: right before that because of COVID. I remember waking up
Speaker 1: and watching that incident. I don't know, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not like a gun Guy'm a fighter. I was extremely
Speaker 1: impressed with your shooting. You're not overshooting, just taking single shots.
Speaker 1: I thought for sure you were like a high level
Speaker 1: military guy. I thought you were because you didn't like
Speaker 1: start blasting in the crowd. You very carefully picture shots.
Speaker 1: You waited the last second where you had no choice.
Speaker 1: I felt like you were given no choice. I said,
Speaker 1: if they would have killed you, I think if you
Speaker 1: hadn't done.
Speaker 2: That, absolutely, And look, I have no prior I had
Speaker 2: no prior training up to that point. On August twenty fifth,
Speaker 2: I didn't train with the rifle, maybe had one hundred
Speaker 2: rounds to that gun, maybe shot close to two hundred
Speaker 2: rounds of my entire life before that. And that was
Speaker 2: on no training. And now I frequently trained. I've probably
Speaker 2: put ten thousand rounds to my my pistol in the
Speaker 2: last three months, another ten thousand rounds through my rifle
Speaker 2: in the past couple of months as well. I shoot
Speaker 2: it almost every weekend, but thousands of rounds through my
Speaker 2: gun every couple of weeks. And I trained, train, trained,
Speaker 2: because I know without it.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what, you should teach me some shooting.
Speaker 1: I'll teach you some juu exit better at shooting.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'll teach you some shooting. We'll train some jiu
Speaker 2: jitsu together.
Speaker 1: I mean, I shoot a little bit, but not much.
Speaker 1: I need to get way better for situations like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can fight, but a situation people to come and
Speaker 1: they were going to kill you. In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: really think we're going to kill you. You felt the same way, right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, They were one hundred percent going to kill me
Speaker 2: if I didn't defend myselfs The first guy that did
Speaker 2: attempt to kill me, he said, if I catch you alone,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking kill you. Those were his own words,
Speaker 2: and he was intending on killing me. That was his intention,
Speaker 2: That's what he said to me. And then he attempted
Speaker 2: to execute that threat. And other people they assaulted me,
Speaker 2: and they chased me down and left me with no
Speaker 2: other choice, pointing guns in my face, hitting me in
Speaker 2: the back of the head with the skateboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I would watch the video before this interview,
Speaker 1: but I came with a skateboard hit you right then you.
Speaker 2: Shot him or yeah. So what happened was I was
Speaker 2: running down Sheridan Road and then Hubert, the second guy killed,
Speaker 2: hits me with the skateboard the first time. Then a
Speaker 2: guy in a white wife beater hits me a second
Speaker 2: time with a hard rock like object in the back
Speaker 2: of my head. I lose my balance, hit the ground.
Speaker 2: Jump kickman comes running at me, and as he's in
Speaker 2: there with the flying kick, I fired two shots at
Speaker 2: him and I mess and then Huber comes in and
Speaker 2: then he puts his knees in my chest and he
Speaker 2: drives his skateboard into my had a second time, causing
Speaker 2: permanent deformations in the back of my skull, almost knocking
Speaker 2: me out, and that's when I shoot him, defending myself,
Speaker 2: and then gros screots. The third guy points a pistol
Speaker 2: in my face, and I lower my gun briefly, and
Speaker 2: then he he backs up, and then immediately after he
Speaker 2: backs up, I lower my weapon because I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: he put his hands on me, he's back and away,
Speaker 2: no longer a threat. Then he drops his gun and
Speaker 2: he continues charging me, and that's when I shoot him
Speaker 2: as he's coming back at me a second time.
Speaker 1: When the skateboard died.
Speaker 2: The skate skateboard guy died, and then grosstroots I disintegrated
Speaker 2: his bicep.
Speaker 1: Which obviously that's I mean, that's best case scenario. You
Speaker 1: mean you took out a guy trying to shoot you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like I would say, ninety chance that they would
Speaker 1: have got you down, they would beat you to death,
Speaker 1: you know, if not more like almost certainly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they tried. When I was on the ground, I
Speaker 2: was six of my shots I fired that night, or
Speaker 2: four of my shots I fired that night were from
Speaker 2: a laying down position on the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and these people were clearly I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: sure how many. I think maybe about fifty people died
Speaker 1: in those at the BLM protests or was that before
Speaker 1: and about fifty people died in those big BLM ones
Speaker 1: from George Floyd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people died from getting killed by
Speaker 2: mobs like that, getting mobbed and jumped in their faces
Speaker 2: something and stabbed, and it's unreported. But of course they
Speaker 2: reported on me, a white kid who defended yourself. And
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of people think that you shot people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a good majority of the people think I shot black people.
Speaker 2: I'm curious of the guy from the gym I'm from
Speaker 2: that black people.
Speaker 1: It's so weird, Souse, I live in Sam Schoen time,
Speaker 1: and people thought you shot black people. Like dude, you
Speaker 1: can see the video. He didn't shoot anyone black. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, It would be cool if you'd come on the
Speaker 2: podcast and me and him could have a little debate.
Speaker 1: I'll try to talk to him. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be angry, but I'm gonna try to call on him later.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad we left and didn't fight, because
Speaker 1: I was getting really mad for a second. I needed
Speaker 1: to like get out of there and DFU. But I
Speaker 1: also couldn't leave me and try to kick you out, so
Speaker 1: I know we have to stay here for We're already
Speaker 1: about to leave, but then like, no, now, we got
Speaker 1: to stay here.
Speaker 2: It was really funny. He kept walking behind me and
Speaker 2: I was I was kind of nervous for a little bit.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't wonder if he comes after you.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with you. No one, No one's attacking my guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: To me, if someone kicks out my guess, that's that's
Speaker 1: an attack on it.
Speaker 2: It's insulting to Abril.
Speaker 1: It's like we're like crue if you're with me or
Speaker 1: my guest. I would never come up and try to
Speaker 1: kick with my friend's guests. But I didn't like him.
Speaker 1: I just would stay away.
Speaker 2: From absolutely, And that's the best thing that anybody can
Speaker 2: take from any situation. You don't like somebody, just stay
Speaker 2: away from it so that avoids conflicts, and for him,
Speaker 2: that avoids him getting his ass kicked. Exactly when you're
Speaker 2: not saying I can kick his ass he'll fighter, and I.
Speaker 1: Like the guy. That's the thing. It's like it's weird
Speaker 1: someone who was a friend. Like he's walk by. He's like, Jake,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you did this like I did, like
Speaker 1: I did something to him, like I was the bad
Speaker 1: guy there. And for a second, Seawan's like just leave,
Speaker 1: like to make it easy, and there's like no, Sean,
Speaker 1: Sean right away realized he was the wrong Go yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you know. Yeah, So at least Sean right
Speaker 1: Away realized, because he's really good friends with Sean absolutely,
Speaker 1: and he was. I didn't realize it, but I think
Speaker 1: he was trying to talk Sean before into kicking you
Speaker 1: out in the corner. I camera guy go something like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're talking about Kyle. I's like, yeah, whatever, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was like talking about like trying
Speaker 1: to kick you out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No. It was funny because I saw the whole
Speaker 2: conversation going on, and he was just getting progressively louder,
Speaker 2: saying this is not cool, like family, brother, why would
Speaker 2: you bring him into my home? And I was just
Speaker 2: like I wanted to say something. I just want to say, hey, man,
Speaker 2: let's have a conversation.
Speaker 1: But you man, how long are you in town? Maybe
Speaker 1: if he's maybe he's tomorrow. If you get a little time,
Speaker 1: maybe he will talk to you.
Speaker 2: Maybe if he if he calls out a little bit, good.
Speaker 1: If you could sit and just like talk like reasonably.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll have my security stand there with Well you.
Speaker 1: Guys, Okay, I don't think that'll be that, brother, so
Speaker 1: i'd fight. I'm not you if he goes after you.
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Speaker 2: No, I I like fighting, but I know my battles.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're trained it too, and you could beat
Speaker 1: most people now, but you understand, like, you're not fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: I'm because you've trained with like some of these league guys,
Speaker 1: you realize how fucking good they are. Yeah, some people
Speaker 1: are so clueless they think they can like fight like
Speaker 1: top bros. Until you do it, and you're like, oh fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeh know. I like roll. I roll with Gordon Ryan,
Speaker 2: Dan Manson and a bunch of other giants. And I
Speaker 2: know my battle so I know what my capabilities are
Speaker 2: and I know who I can and can't take.
Speaker 1: And you've been Gordonyan's literally the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: And Dan is phenomenal and he's three hundred pounds but
Speaker 1: he moves like a little guy.
Speaker 2: He moves like a little guy and all he has
Speaker 2: to do is lay on top of you and you're
Speaker 2: just like, You're like, I can't move, Dan, what do
Speaker 2: you want me to do?
Speaker 1: I think I trained with him since he was like sixteen,
Speaker 1: so I bully him when he just started getting bigger
Speaker 1: and better. So I'm like, okay' mnna stop bullying this kid,
Speaker 1: start and start being nice. Always nice to him.
Speaker 2: There's a time when you, yeah, I'm getting older.
Speaker 1: Now this guy's fucking giant getting good.
Speaker 2: And I'll say, Dan is one of the nicest people
Speaker 2: I've ever met. And whenever I go to his gym
Speaker 2: with him, and there's some people that don't like me
Speaker 2: that at that gym, we go to Gordon, he doesn't
Speaker 2: allow to disrespect.
Speaker 1: I think Gordon would flip out on its one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd be allowed to go to the
Speaker 2: gym again, exactly if they did.
Speaker 1: That was Randy's gym. If now Randy had walked up
Speaker 1: and I had to take you out is his house,
Speaker 1: I would have to set his house. Sorry, Kyle, this
Speaker 1: is Randy go towards gym. I have to respect his
Speaker 1: rules because there is an etique. If it's someone's house,
Speaker 1: you have topect the rules. Yeah, not his plays. That
Speaker 1: was so insane. Do you have to deal with stuff
Speaker 1: for that often? Yeah?
Speaker 2: On occasion, not as much as you would think. But
Speaker 2: there are times. There's a funny story I'd find in Minneapolis,
Speaker 2: and I knew I could have taken this person if
Speaker 2: I wanted to get into an altercation and fight them.
Speaker 2: I just don't fight people on the street. It's not
Speaker 2: worth it.
Speaker 1: They've been through, especially in Liberal City. If you want
Speaker 1: to see you in prison, these people still hate you still,
Speaker 1: which I didn't realize, but that that showed me right there, yep.
Speaker 2: And and people don't realize this. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they have a knife or gun, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: fight that, and it's not worth getting arrested for In
Speaker 2: a gym. I followed Jim Etiquette. I believe everybody there
Speaker 2: follows Jim Meticutt. You don't bring a gun into a gym,
Speaker 2: as much as I believe the.
Speaker 1: Guys bring guns into gems, but you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: You're not supposed to.
Speaker 1: Maybe they leave them in their car and carry guns though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know most of the guys carry guns, but
Speaker 2: Jim Etiquette, anytime I'm going to a place of fight
Speaker 2: fighting and sparring. I always leave my firearm in the
Speaker 2: car in those places. There's only places I actually disarmed
Speaker 2: my studtube.
Speaker 1: I think some guys being guns and I always leave
Speaker 1: my thing in the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I follow that gym etiquette. But no weapons
Speaker 2: in those places, because that's how other things happen when
Speaker 2: you're training, or some people get too many, like.
Speaker 1: Shit like today, Like I wouldrefu what a gun? But
Speaker 1: that's why, Yeah, you want the gyms. You turn into fights.
Speaker 1: You don't shoot someone exactly, you turn it into pedophiles
Speaker 1: are trying to kill you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a gun is carrying on the street. Gym
Speaker 2: is for a place of training, of learning to get
Speaker 2: better and just good gym etiquette. So my firearms in
Speaker 2: the car, and I was like.
Speaker 1: Well, shit, no dude, if you're my guess, I'm fighting
Speaker 1: with you. You know I'm not letting someone.
Speaker 2: Jake, you know I'm in my ass kicked against him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have fought him, not you. I would
Speaker 1: not like I fight you. He's a he's a good fighter,
Speaker 1: that guy. You know, absolutely I watched You're not going
Speaker 1: to stand a chance. But I know I seem to
Speaker 1: talk to you, bro. I think that would be the movie.
Speaker 2: I think it would be a nice conversation and like
Speaker 2: he can let out his feelings and.
Speaker 1: Give his perspective, give his perspective the media, just like
Speaker 1: the media is complete the fake news. You know. It's
Speaker 1: just so evil what they did to you, the same
Speaker 1: age as my daughter. So I think this case really
Speaker 1: resonated with me because it's like, you look just like
Speaker 1: a nice kid in an unfortunate situation, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to give you life in prison without parole. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was looking at life in prison without priol parole
Speaker 2: plus another life over that, and it's just insane how
Speaker 2: long they were trying to put me away for for
Speaker 2: defending myself. The court process was probably the longest, most
Speaker 2: exhausting part of it. It takes years off of your life,
Speaker 2: getting arrested, having to go through the legal battle of
Speaker 2: defending yourself, the exhaustion, and not being able to sleep
Speaker 2: at night, the people constantly railing you, calling you a murderer,
Speaker 2: white supremacist, and Nazie when none of that's true. And
Speaker 2: I was just a seventeen year old kid, and granted
Speaker 2: it was stupid for me to be there, at that time,
Speaker 2: and I own up to that.
Speaker 1: Take stupid shit. You were there to buildings from getting
Speaker 1: burned on, right, So it's not really that stupid if
Speaker 1: you think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but with hindsight being twenty twenty, I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: gone there. If I would have known, I would have
Speaker 2: been brutally attacked. It's not worth the process. I would
Speaker 2: not change anything about the way I defended myself. I
Speaker 2: know I defended myself perfectly and you're never really impressed
Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, I would do it exactly the same
Speaker 2: way if I had to defend myself in that exact situation,
Speaker 2: minus being there again. And I've always been open and
Speaker 2: honest about that because taking a human life is something
Speaker 2: I wish on nobody. Granted that they have some terrible records.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that at the time. But it's also
Speaker 2: fun not to kill it's fun. It's not fun to
Speaker 2: take another life.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't want to kill people. If you want to
Speaker 1: kill people, your pass absolutly should feel a little bit
Speaker 1: the pedophile, but still you're still like, Okay, you're still
Speaker 1: taking a life.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's just something that I don't wish on anybody
Speaker 2: because it's not a fun thing to do, to have
Speaker 2: to take another human beings life.
Speaker 1: It's it's weird. I followed very few trials for some reason.
Speaker 1: He was one of the few I followed. I remember
Speaker 1: the verdict, So they're waiting multiple days, and that kind
Speaker 1: of freaked me out, like it means the jury couldn't
Speaker 1: decid clearly you were innocent, but the jury was it
Speaker 1: four days.
Speaker 2: They were yeah. And that's how you know the acquittal
Speaker 2: was the right acquittal, because they took their time and
Speaker 2: they analyzed every video piece and every piece of evidence,
Speaker 2: and they talked it through and looked at the facts
Speaker 2: of the case and broke it down by the law
Speaker 2: and equitted me based on self defense.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really worried it was taking so long, though
Speaker 1: it should have been like like thirty minutes, like innocent, innocent, innocent,
Speaker 1: Hey this was hair yeah yeah right, and he yeah,
Speaker 1: he killed his wife and got got off. But I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe the verdict. I was actually really nervous when
Speaker 1: they fucking read it me. The read it, which is
Speaker 1: weird because don't get into cases. But for some reason,
Speaker 1: it just because they had to be the same as
Speaker 1: my daughter I knew they were abusing you reading it.
Speaker 1: When they quit it, I was like so happy.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Jake, what got you into fighting?
Speaker 1: Good question? I was, Uh, I was kind of a
Speaker 1: fucked up kid getting in trouble all the time. I
Speaker 1: just goten arrested, which was fucking terrible. I know how
Speaker 1: terrible Jell is. You're talking about being in jail. So
Speaker 1: I was in jail for a couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: then I got out. I was a good wrestler, a
Speaker 1: good street fighter. I met Chuck Lidell. Do you know him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know Chuck Liddell, and I'm looking at him like, oh,
Speaker 1: this cheesy guy with his tattoos, I'm gonna fuck He
Speaker 1: invited me to spar and I'm like, I'm gonna fuck
Speaker 1: this guy up. So I went in.
Speaker 2: There very humbled, weren't you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I was very cocky, and he beat
Speaker 1: the fuck out of me, dropped me with liver shots.
Speaker 1: We were talking about liver shots earlier. Knocked me out
Speaker 1: with the liver shot, and it was I was just like,
Speaker 1: whoa humbled. Then I asked Chuck free training. He's like nope.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, well, can I show up at
Speaker 1: the gym, and then he let me start shadowing him.
Speaker 1: And then remember, after like a month, he hit me
Speaker 1: in text like hey, you want to go like big
Speaker 1: Bear and trail me for two weeks. And I was
Speaker 1: just acstatic because because Chuck's a hard guy to read,
Speaker 1: I know if you hated me or not, and I mean,
Speaker 1: if you invite me, at least doesn't hate me. And
Speaker 1: after that we became super close. He became my mentor,
Speaker 1: I met Nicking the ideas, they were my main sparring partners.
Speaker 1: It just got absolutely addicted. I mean, you know how
Speaker 1: didictive jiujitsu is. You can already see after a few months.
Speaker 2: It's very fun and it's honestly a stress reliever, like
Speaker 2: taking it and leaving it on the mat and just
Speaker 2: like going and training and training with some great people.
Speaker 2: And I trained, to really say.
Speaker 1: Such a straight such a stress reliever. I think because
Speaker 1: maybe I was a little trouble getting in trouble of violence,
Speaker 1: gang shit all stopped since I started training. It just
Speaker 1: led I could get my aggression and stuff out there.
Speaker 1: I totally Ca'm a different person, so much more commer
Speaker 1: and relaxing and changed my life, saved my life. You know,
Speaker 1: had an amazing career. Now it's a tough sport. When
Speaker 1: someone asked me to I do this for a living,
Speaker 1: it's like, fuck, No, if you're having to ask, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do it, like unless you're absolutely obsessed and you like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I had to do it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and like you've made a great career out
Speaker 2: of it. You're a champion. I had a lot of fights,
Speaker 2: you're one of the top in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no, it's like because it's cool, had such
Speaker 1: an amazing career. And then I also did a bunch of
Speaker 1: good shit jitsu and I got a little older, so
Speaker 1: I'm it's so hard to walk away. But that's like, fuck,
Speaker 1: what do I do? Then I started a podcast because
Speaker 1: it's like it's a man, you have to stay busy.
Speaker 2: I mean absolutely, yeah, no, I roll out a really
Speaker 2: good gym. I trained with Gordon and Dan at times
Speaker 2: whenever in the world.
Speaker 1: Like I know them very well and just great guys.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Ordon gets so much hate, but he's one
Speaker 1: of the best.
Speaker 2: He's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
Speaker 1: He goes out of his way to do favors and
Speaker 1: won't even like say he did it. He like, sometimes
Speaker 1: do something he won't even take credit for it. Oh,
Speaker 1: Gordon did this. He's just such a good dude. It
Speaker 1: pisses me off. People hate on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, and he's one of the nicest people.
Speaker 2: Same with Dan. And yep, they got me plugged into
Speaker 2: a really good gym close to my house. It's we
Speaker 2: don't have any liberals.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, what's the gym? You're right?
Speaker 2: I roll at atos? Oh yeah, yeah. Who's the trainer
Speaker 2: you have there? Justin flood And I'm sure he's good
Speaker 2: if they sent you there, he's good. Dan is really
Speaker 2: close friends with him. Dan's vouch for Dan.
Speaker 1: Big dance such an awesome Oh yeah, Big Dan, Big
Speaker 1: Dan be smaller check Popo of leg Off or something.
Speaker 2: I don't even think that would do it.
Speaker 1: That's my training. And I'm like, fuck, dude, this sucks.
Speaker 1: I'm not good. Abe's like three hundred pounds on top
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, I'm like, Dan, could you like roll on
Speaker 2: your side so I can actually try to do something?
Speaker 2: He was like, you got this? He like, just just
Speaker 2: like do this, and I'm like, I can't. Three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1: Jiu jitsu is such a complex sport. You're training with
Speaker 1: like literally the best in the world. How they break
Speaker 1: it down. You're so lucky to have that that level
Speaker 1: right from the beginning, the details, and so it's all.
Speaker 2: About like the littlest movements change everything. Like I was doing.
Speaker 2: I was pointing my feet outward while doing a lock on.
Speaker 2: Somebody was like, point your toes together, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, small fucking things. And the two best people breaking
Speaker 1: that I've ever met are Gordon Ryan and John Donna here.
Speaker 1: Every little every little detail they'll have, it's insane, and
Speaker 1: you have to be so intelligent. People don't understand the
Speaker 1: intelligence of someone like Gordon Ryan and John Donna here. No,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, Gordon's not smart, bro, I bet he
Speaker 1: has some crazy past genius IQ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And just to like look at
Speaker 2: something in such a complex sport and I'm I still
Speaker 2: don't even understand the sport.
Speaker 1: The map in your head, I think, because there's this
Speaker 1: insane web and map. It takes about a year to
Speaker 1: understand the map. And then you feel just like I
Speaker 1: retard the first few months. You're like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I need to start taking some privates because
Speaker 2: my gym only works on advanced stuff. So I'm learning
Speaker 2: all this advanced stuff like triangles and leg locks, arm bars,
Speaker 2: le leg bars, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, forget the story, but let's learn some basics. Well,
Speaker 1: I've trained a lot of like high low people and fighters.
Speaker 1: But then I had this really rich guy I wanted
Speaker 1: to hire me to be his coach. I'm like, I guess,
Speaker 1: but never trained beginners, so it took me. So I
Speaker 1: teach him all this advanced shit. Then I realized, oh,
Speaker 1: he's missing some of the fundamentals. So I had to
Speaker 1: go back in my brain and think all the stuff
Speaker 1: I'd take for granted that because when I trained, I
Speaker 1: already have these a few years experiences. Oh wait, I
Speaker 1: got to know the very basics the hip movement, all
Speaker 1: that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like hot, where to place your feet, how
Speaker 2: to how to sprawl and granted I wrestled for about
Speaker 2: four years. Obviously you really wrestler. Yeah, before my shooting,
Speaker 2: I wrestled before. I wrestled on the varsity team in
Speaker 2: high school on freshman year at one seventy, and that
Speaker 2: helped me a.
Speaker 1: Little a lot. But the varsity of freshman that means
Speaker 1: you're decent grapplers. That helps a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's it's a little different because I'm
Speaker 2: doing all these things and like the biggest thing for
Speaker 2: me to break is I don't want to get on
Speaker 2: my back, but I I'm learning a just so it's
Speaker 2: okay to be on your back, but I don't want
Speaker 2: to be on my back.
Speaker 1: Here's my take on that. Okay, you still always want
Speaker 1: to be on top, but you also need to learn
Speaker 1: five of your back. So I did mm an more
Speaker 1: than jiu jitsu, So you really want to be on
Speaker 1: top mid mad jiu jitsu, they're considered even position. But
Speaker 1: I look to look at it's a martial art perspective,
Speaker 1: like the old school jiu jitsu. You want you always
Speaker 1: want to be in top my opinion, So I would
Speaker 1: work but so you go on top. But then's what
Speaker 1: I started doing. I would start starting on guard and
Speaker 1: try to look for sweeps get back just well, John's
Speaker 1: they do a lot of like guard passing drill. You
Speaker 1: can just get up though accounts is to win there
Speaker 1: the way they have it. That's how it's funny because
Speaker 1: Gordon Ryan, he has the best guard passing in the
Speaker 1: world and he has his head, heaver head passing where
Speaker 1: I can't get up. I'm like, how did you develop that?
Speaker 1: Best answer? He goes because of you. I'm like what,
Speaker 1: Because it would do the guard rounds with you and
Speaker 1: you just push back and get your feet every time,
Speaker 1: and I got so frustrated and I developed this passing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, damn, I'm glad I helped figure that out.
Speaker 2: That's insane. Yeah, that's it's really cool, just the way
Speaker 2: jiujitsu has broken down, MMA is broken down. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give jiu JITs to a couple of years and then
Speaker 2: I want to try out m m A. I don't
Speaker 2: know how many more hits to the head. I could
Speaker 2: take a.
Speaker 1: Few hits make you smarter, too many make you dumber.
Speaker 2: I'm already at the TBI level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably like slightly passed the first couple, like
Speaker 1: unleash your brain to think a little better, then it
Speaker 1: can start going negative.
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I don't know. I think I'm
Speaker 2: at that point to where I'm just like order wine,
Speaker 2: like slightly over the line, but one wrong hit. It's funny.
Speaker 1: There's lots of borderline artistic people and jiu jitsu. I
Speaker 1: think because the brain works like in these patterns and
Speaker 1: just such an insane like pattern thing. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say any names. I'm sure you've noticed people are here
Speaker 1: on a lot of people are semi autistical. There really
Speaker 1: good guys. Oh yeah, Mikey will openly say he's autistics.
Speaker 1: That's not bad to say that, Mikey Mussamecci.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's It's funny. A lot of my buddies
Speaker 2: who roll, they openly say they're autistic.
Speaker 1: Joke, like all the autism I play.
Speaker 2: With guns, just legos, I'm autistic.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I think our brains, I don't think autistic.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit. My brains are wired a little different,
Speaker 1: Like you get really good at the brains work a
Speaker 1: little different. Absolutely, Yeah, you've already noticed it, probably a
Speaker 1: few months. Like wait, these guys are I'm still decent
Speaker 1: social skills, but like, oh, their brains work a little different.
Speaker 2: Some of them would, I'd question the social skills.
Speaker 1: Have terrible social skills. Yeah, but guys like Gordon goes
Speaker 1: social skills. But you can be like, oh, his brain
Speaker 1: doesn't work like his brain's wired a little different. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like the patterns he can fucking pick up and ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, social cues. They pick up on social cues exactly.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like your life's been pretty good recently.
Speaker 1: You have a beautiful wife. I'm like, wait, right to you,
Speaker 1: you're feeling that's what I said. Congratulations, bro, How did.
Speaker 2: A ugly scum like you get such a beautiful.
Speaker 1: Ride because you can protect them. They know you'll take
Speaker 1: dudes out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I will protect her at all costs.
Speaker 2: And she's a Second Amendment girl. She carries a gun herself.
Speaker 2: Granted it's pink and glittery with a pink hot pink holster.
Speaker 1: My daughter wanted to look cute gun like, all right, fine,
Speaker 1: here you go. Hey, so good point. You said, your
Speaker 1: tech girls. A lot of guys won't. Like I've been
Speaker 1: attacked for saying, like a man should always fight. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how many they are. The man goes down
Speaker 1: instead of the women. I've been attacked for saying that people,
Speaker 1: all these women aren't worth it nowadays, Like yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe because you're a piece of shit that won't fight
Speaker 1: your women is why you don't have the have women
Speaker 1: that are loyal and stuff to you. A lot of
Speaker 1: men won't protect even if you didn't have a gun.
Speaker 1: I'm sure like if Chris started dispecting your girl, you
Speaker 1: probably would have fought him, you know, for you. But
Speaker 1: you're in a situation I bet you'd have the balls
Speaker 1: where you're not gonna let someone come.
Speaker 2: I probably would have got in his face and tell
Speaker 2: you're not gonna.
Speaker 1: Let someone disrespect your girl, even if you're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: It's like a man's job to always protect their girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if he if he would have said some
Speaker 2: some ship to my wife, I definitely would have would
Speaker 2: have probably got in his face. I probably would have
Speaker 2: gotten knocked out knowing, but I'm willing to get I'm
Speaker 2: willing to lose a fight for my wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a man's job to always protect your girl.
Speaker 1: That should be common sense. And she's always been human nature.
Speaker 1: And some of these red pill guys and they have
Speaker 1: some things that are true, but they're like, oh, women
Speaker 1: are trash, blah blah, Like maybe they're trash because you're
Speaker 1: not worth being good for if you're not gonna fucking
Speaker 1: protect her. It's like literally like one of your top.
Speaker 2: Jobs, and this is my top priority is protecting her,
Speaker 2: Like I will never let anything happen to her.
Speaker 1: And between someone dying you and her is gonna be me.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it from the girl, and
Speaker 1: they probably the same. It's like this our job, and
Speaker 1: I can't understand. It's insane to me that a lot
Speaker 1: of men don't think that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, men are the protectors of the household,
Speaker 2: and my job is to keep her safe. And granted
Speaker 2: she's a little four foot nine, ninety pound Shihuahua that
Speaker 2: things can fight everybody. Yeah, but she also knows that
Speaker 2: I'm going to stay out of my husband's way.
Speaker 1: If somebody that's would be very clear to my girl
Speaker 1: to me and fights HER's mouth and up too, like
Speaker 1: get away, you're gonna get me hurt. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to protect you. Let me handle the situation. At one time,
Speaker 1: a girl the day and try and get in a
Speaker 1: fight with people, which and she meant well, but I
Speaker 1: was just like, don't ever ever do that. You're gonna
Speaker 1: end up getting me hurt because I'm gonna try helping
Speaker 1: you and I'm gonna get blindsided. Yep.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And sometimes women will try to get in the
Speaker 2: middle of things, and my wife is knows as well.
Speaker 2: We're we don't resort to violence for ever anything. We
Speaker 2: always our best decision is to walk away until there's
Speaker 2: no need to walk away, Like I we will pull
Speaker 2: I'll pull her out of a situation. But she knows
Speaker 2: there's like an argument going on and that to never
Speaker 2: get into another grown man's face.
Speaker 1: Exactly do Yeah, and that's that's retarded. Guy shouldn't hit
Speaker 1: a girl, but some girls are retarded when they do
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, I know we're not gonna say anything,
Speaker 1: but there's another situation you're dealing with with a guy
Speaker 1: that was disrespectful to a girl. You know that you
Speaker 1: know will turn any names for any private shit. But
Speaker 1: I could see like, oh, this guy's got people's back.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, I mean it's the last thing you
Speaker 2: don't do is you don't as a female, you do
Speaker 2: not get into another guy's face, and you do not
Speaker 2: try to like act tough and exactly a guy.
Speaker 1: She still she never hit a girl, but it's also
Speaker 1: girls also not be your targeted goes to.
Speaker 2: It goes both ways in that sense, like if a
Speaker 2: girl gets in my face, I'm not gonna hit her.
Speaker 2: I know you're not going to hit her. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna put my Yeah, you're not worth the lady or
Speaker 2: my wife is probably gonna end up hitting her.
Speaker 1: I've had a few crazy girl hitting but I just leave,
Speaker 1: you know. But that was back when I was doing
Speaker 1: stupid ships. I probably deserved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've all been hit a few times and.
Speaker 1: It's like you don't hit the girl bag. It's annoying,
Speaker 1: but it's like, come.
Speaker 2: On, the girl, why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Took back real quick to the U. U was Kenosha
Speaker 1: the shooting? Right? Was it the George Sloyd was before that?
Speaker 2: It was not the George Floyd. It was after the
Speaker 2: George Floyd. It was the Jacob Blake shooting. Jacob Blake
Speaker 2: was a guy in Kenosha, Wisconsin who got shot for
Speaker 2: trying to stab a police officer and the cops shot
Speaker 2: seven times like his ex I think I don't think
Speaker 2: that was true that I heard that as well, that rumor.
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I don't I don't necessarily care.
Speaker 2: The guy was trying to stab a cop. It's clear
Speaker 2: as days on video, and he was trying to get
Speaker 2: in a vehicle with three kids in the car, drive
Speaker 2: away with the veal goal with three kids and the
Speaker 2: cop grind him by the shirt. Russell and Chessky the
Speaker 2: cop has shot him, grind him by the shirt. Jacob
Speaker 2: Blake reached behind him and tried to stab the cop
Speaker 2: from behind. That's when Rust and Drew has gone it
Speaker 2: shot him seven times in the back, and like, I
Speaker 2: get it, it was in the back. Bad optics.
Speaker 1: But but it's also the adrenalinees going yeah, you fired
Speaker 1: less shots, you were more disciplined. Tricky.
Speaker 2: It happens quick, and to me, I look at.
Speaker 1: Every single police shooting individually and don't many because I
Speaker 1: think it does get tricky. I don't I don't want
Speaker 1: police doing wrongful shootings. But it's also like it's a
Speaker 1: tricky job and it shouldn't be broken down by race,
Speaker 1: because I have friends that were police and they they
Speaker 1: used to say, so someone's shot first, saying to it
Speaker 1: is what race? And if their whites are like, oh
Speaker 1: thank god, that's fucking terrible, there's okay to shoot white
Speaker 1: people because no one's going to do anything. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a fine line. So we should look at like every
Speaker 1: police shooting and break it down individually and decide if
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, justified or not. But it's very race based.
Speaker 2: It is very race based, and I do think that
Speaker 2: it just needs to be broken down on here's the evidence,
Speaker 2: and just leave race.
Speaker 1: Out of it exactly. Unfortunately that's not the case.
Speaker 2: Like in my case, a lot of people that think
Speaker 2: I shot black people and then find out I shot
Speaker 2: white people. I'm like, okay, but it still should be
Speaker 2: broken down no matter what, the same way, because.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who you It doesn't matter if if
Speaker 1: you had shot black people would make no difference.
Speaker 2: It would have made no difference because they were still
Speaker 2: people attacking me.
Speaker 1: It's weird the news tried making it like that if
Speaker 1: they wanted to do. He's a racist who went and
Speaker 1: shot three black people for no reason. Yeah, Chris probably
Speaker 1: thinks that as who's talking to I. Betty thinks it's
Speaker 1: completely un I said name, well too late. Now I
Speaker 1: guess it's completely fucking It was insane. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of crises out here exactly exactly. So like Kenosha
Speaker 1: that's in uh near Milwaukee. Was it?
Speaker 2: It's near Milwaukee. It's about halfway between Milwaukee and Chicago.
Speaker 1: So where do you think those rioters were coming from? Really?
Speaker 1: From there?
Speaker 2: They're from everywhere they were getting.
Speaker 1: Flown in bringing him in, you think or it was.
Speaker 2: It's pretty organized. They were.
Speaker 1: I've heard rumors. I don't know it's true. You probably
Speaker 1: don't either, but I've heard they were like busting people
Speaker 1: in and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I've know, yeah, they were busting people in. There
Speaker 2: were people getting busted in, and just like you're seeing
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis right now, how people are getting busted in there.
Speaker 2: People are being paid to be there. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: I think the biggest way to stop these riots and
Speaker 2: these insurrections is to find the funding in charge, the
Speaker 2: people who are funding these.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because how they fucking look these people. I think
Speaker 1: George Soros, it's fun some of them. I'm I can't
Speaker 1: say if he's doing these he's.
Speaker 2: Been acts of domestic terrorism.
Speaker 1: It really is. And there's obviously you probably noticed how
Speaker 1: unfairly it is. Like the BLM wrote, uh, they were
Speaker 1: basically Harleynham got any trouble, they were justified and need
Speaker 1: excuses for him. January sixth, a very similar thing. The
Speaker 1: most vilified thing to ever they shot the Ashley Babbitt
Speaker 1: That was the largest FBI investigation in American history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these some of these guys got like thirty years in
Speaker 1: prison sentences and stuff for the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yea, is so unfair the day not even the same thing,
Speaker 2: like less yeah, less And granted, do I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people should have stormed the capital. Probably not.
Speaker 2: A wise idea is that they're right. Absolutely, we pay taxes,
Speaker 2: that's our house. But like, how a lot of these
Speaker 2: January six ers were treated was so unfair. How they
Speaker 2: were their life was just crucified, turned upside down for
Speaker 2: going to peacefully assemble and protest. One of them, Ashley Babbitt,
Speaker 2: getting shot in the neck for not climbing through a window,
Speaker 2: not trying to get in anywhere, for standing up by
Speaker 2: the window and then getting shot by a police officer
Speaker 2: who has not been indicted, who never had any proper
Speaker 2: investigation done, who had really no proper training and just
Speaker 2: freaked out and shot somebody. It's it's insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so this is a police shooting that there
Speaker 1: should be problem for. These are the ones they get off. Yep.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing with this race based I.
Speaker 2: Hear a lot of comparisons to the Renee Good Ashley
Speaker 2: Babbitt shooting. The difference are is Ashley Babbitt wasn't trying
Speaker 2: to run over a cop with a two ton of
Speaker 2: youkal hitting her gas at full speed. I mean I
Speaker 2: broke the video down and I watched it frame by frame.
Speaker 2: I watched Officer Agent Ross's video to where he is
Speaker 2: in the car, seeing him by the car, film and
Speaker 2: get everything, and then you just hear the engine roar
Speaker 2: up and then slap him before he shoot.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I feel like actually got his worse. I
Speaker 1: do feel like the cop probably shouldn't have shot in
Speaker 1: that one, because like she was more fleeing. I think
Speaker 1: it did hit him a little bit, but he kind
Speaker 1: of there's a thing that you see where he steps
Speaker 1: forwards to shoot her. I think they should have let
Speaker 1: her fled in my opinion, But.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll disagree with you on that one because
Speaker 2: officer has a duty to protect other people. You see
Speaker 2: her smile and then the wife attagging as another view,
Speaker 2: go get him, baby, go get h And then you
Speaker 2: see the wheels turned towards the officer and away, so
Speaker 2: she turned it away, backed up, and then she turned
Speaker 2: it toward the officer and then accelerated forward. And why
Speaker 2: she went that way because she slid on black ice
Speaker 2: shit and that's when the officer shot her.
Speaker 1: It looked like she was going to barely missing me
Speaker 1: step forward. But I'll watch the video again. Part of
Speaker 1: the problem is too now, that just agitated people a
Speaker 1: lot worse because I support the deportations if they need
Speaker 1: to do it, and I'm more like they don't want
Speaker 1: They're not doing it in the smartest manner. They should
Speaker 1: have started first hitting the gang bangers and then start
Speaker 1: getting you know, I mean, they gotta think about optics
Speaker 1: a little bit, and they haven't done a good job
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can I can agree with that
Speaker 2: on some sense. It's just there were so many people
Speaker 2: led into this country under the Biden administration, so many criminals.
Speaker 2: I think control the tax are not at tax control.
Speaker 2: Deportations would probably be a lot smoother. But how can
Speaker 2: we do control?
Speaker 1: To be tough, there's no easy way to do it,
Speaker 1: So I don't like, I agree it's a tough situation.
Speaker 1: I think first they should go like Sam Conister, for example,
Speaker 1: there's all these Salvagorian gang bangers that sell drugs there
Speaker 1: that aren't citizens, come and like snag them first. They
Speaker 1: start getting these people first, Like both, what did you
Speaker 1: tweet out you tweet you sent. You wanted to produce
Speaker 1: so many deportations.
Speaker 2: I wanted to pour so many illegals that I never
Speaker 2: have to press one for English again.
Speaker 1: See I agree with that, Like we shouldn't have to
Speaker 1: be like choose your language.
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, this is the United States and
Speaker 2: my mother in law, she doesn't speak any English. Me
Speaker 2: and her have never had a conversation before. But I
Speaker 2: also like think that she needs to learn English. This
Speaker 2: is the United States of Americas.
Speaker 1: You have to learn it. Someone's super old or something.
Speaker 1: But then you shouldn't be able to have our phone call.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have to fucking have that weight? You should like
Speaker 1: it's on you if you don't understand language. It's it's
Speaker 1: my problem. Places California I've gone to where they don't
Speaker 1: speak English. It's all Mexican. And I have no hatred
Speaker 1: towards Mexican. But why do we let all these people
Speaker 1: come in and take these areas over?
Speaker 2: It doesn't I go to any other country. It is
Speaker 2: my job to learn their language. Why do then? Why
Speaker 2: why do I they have to? Why do I have
Speaker 2: to learn their language when they come to my country
Speaker 2: and the adapt to their cultures.
Speaker 1: Another big problem with it is like they're letting people
Speaker 1: in and they're giving them welfare, free healthcare, daycare, daycare.
Speaker 1: You're driving house prices up, so.
Speaker 2: That daycare, but day cares. Yeah, like all the lyrics.
Speaker 1: That's like the matter of frauds insane. I think it's those.
Speaker 1: I think it's like in every state, just massive amounts.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there's a lyric center right next to
Speaker 2: my office. In Texas. We have an early learning childhood
Speaker 2: development center right where I work on the same complex.
Speaker 2: I walk past it every day and I've never once
Speaker 2: seen a child go in or out there. I've been
Speaker 2: there at all hours of the day. I've worked nine
Speaker 2: to like eleven o'clock at night. A couple of days,
Speaker 2: I've not once seen anybody enter that building. So I'm
Speaker 2: really curious on what's going on there.
Speaker 1: No, it's insane the amount of frauds that go on.
Speaker 1: I've I haven't looked into that much, but I was
Speaker 1: looking at a medicare fraud where there was a guy
Speaker 1: hes not like a couple of billion worth, I think
Speaker 1: in Florida. He was just going through all these he
Speaker 1: had these fake buildings and they were registered as like
Speaker 1: hospitals or doctors and you could just charge they make it.
Speaker 1: So he's like, how the fuck can you do that?
Speaker 1: You had billions of dollars worth and then he got pardoned.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're in the wrong business, Jake, right, No,
Speaker 2: we's in a medicare fraud. We need to open at
Speaker 2: this part or daycare centers the medicare fraud. Yeah, we know,
Speaker 2: open a daycare center. Let's open the Rentenhouse shields Learing Center.
Speaker 1: Shot for shooting and fighting. Well, we actually we really
Speaker 1: do that, actually though, so.
Speaker 2: We could actually not do fraud to make a lot
Speaker 2: of money out that.
Speaker 1: Damn it, We're ever gonna do a real job. I
Speaker 1: just couldn't live with myself. I was like, stealing money.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the wrong mind though, because it's our taxes anyways,
Speaker 1: they're doing it with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't feel guilty about it because they're not
Speaker 2: paying the taxes on it. We're the ones paying for
Speaker 2: these things, and these are things meant to actually help
Speaker 2: people that have children to go to these.
Speaker 1: Places, because that's a real issue.
Speaker 2: Not open, they're not having ability for kids to go there.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a problem with it. Firsthand. If they
Speaker 2: were actually daycare centers and people can go there to
Speaker 2: drop their kids off, it was a safe, controlled environment
Speaker 2: where they can learn and it was under control, I
Speaker 2: would probably have a disagreement with the education being pushed.
Speaker 1: But the educations are almost terrible at what was the school.
Speaker 2: But I also would probably look the other way and
Speaker 2: go towards another battle if it wasn't just plain outright fraud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a real issue of like, you know,
Speaker 1: parents that can't afford both have to work, then they
Speaker 1: can't afford daycare. People aren't having kids young because the
Speaker 1: prices are so I think a lot of the boomers
Speaker 1: don't understand, like how rough the job market is and stuff.
Speaker 1: You're younger. All the young people are saying the job
Speaker 1: market's rough, Ima, she's crazy.
Speaker 2: Took my wife forever to find a job and she
Speaker 2: finally just found a job at a good company in Texas,
Speaker 2: but it was like four months.
Speaker 1: And confident people too. I had confident people hit me
Speaker 1: up looking for jobs that they're they'll take things they're
Speaker 1: underqualified for, and a lot of these they're acting like
Speaker 1: the economy is good, But I think the job market's terrible,
Speaker 1: particularly for young people, and a lot of the moms
Speaker 1: are out of touch, like why don't you have a house?
Speaker 1: The average age I think you're red for buying a
Speaker 1: house right now is like sixty or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't own a house. I live in a
Speaker 2: two bedroom apartment, and just the economy sucks right now.
Speaker 2: It's terrible. And my wife is a very intelligent person.
Speaker 2: She's probably smarter than me and you put together.
Speaker 1: Probably it's not saying much, I know it is enough.
Speaker 1: Definitely better looking at both of us.
Speaker 2: But definitely better looking than the both of us. But
Speaker 2: so what's funny is she's fluent in Spanish, she's super intelligent,
Speaker 2: she's super hard working. But just employers are like, we
Speaker 2: don't have the band with her budget right now?
Speaker 1: No, exactly. That's how good jobs it's hard to get.
Speaker 1: And if people are getting away underpaid, and then you
Speaker 1: go like a grocery stores, like you know, I'm doing
Speaker 1: pretty well to look at the prices of my holy fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's insane. I don't I thank god. I
Speaker 2: live in Texas and it's only two one for gas
Speaker 2: right now, and it's almost under a dollar.
Speaker 1: That's cheap. Yeah, I was living in California, Like, live
Speaker 1: in San Francisco for like twenty years. That's the most
Speaker 1: insane city. Once I left, it's like you have Stockholm syndromenda.
Speaker 1: You don't realize how crazy it is yep, and leave
Speaker 1: them like, oh my god, how was it there for
Speaker 1: twenty years? That place is crazy? Yeah.
Speaker 2: I briefly lived in Reno, Nevada before I moved to Texas,
Speaker 2: and gas was like three eighty out there. And moved
Speaker 2: to Texas, I'm like two a one to fill up
Speaker 2: my tank and I drive a Jeep and it's it's
Speaker 2: sucks gas down. It used to be one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: to fill. I'm paying thirty five dollars to fill my
Speaker 2: truck every.
Speaker 1: Two weeks now.
Speaker 2: That's like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: Moved to Texas. You're in Dallas, right, Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: so many friends in Austin.
Speaker 2: Austin's great, and I know there's a lot of great
Speaker 2: gyms you can go train at that.
Speaker 1: Somehow, podcasts are booming out there in the comedy scene's club.
Speaker 2: You said you met Rogan, Yeah, so yeah, so I've
Speaker 2: been to uh the Comedy Mothership, and that's where I
Speaker 2: met Joe Rogan, Tony Hitchcliff. I'm great friends with David Lucas.
Speaker 2: It's funny. He's the big, fat black dude.
Speaker 1: Sure if I know, if I see him to that place.
Speaker 2: He made all the George Floyd jokes.
Speaker 1: I want to look this guy up now he's blacking
Speaker 1: get away with it.
Speaker 2: He's great. He's a great friend of mine. And he
Speaker 2: called me the other day. He was shopping at a
Speaker 2: gun store and I was like, in the middle of something,
Speaker 2: and whenever he calls, I'm like, oh, shoot, hey, what's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: You good? But then he was like, what gun do
Speaker 2: I need to buy? And he was looking at gun.
Speaker 2: I'm like, go, no, go get that gun.
Speaker 1: It's good you make You're building a good network, like
Speaker 1: Brandon Herrera is your friend. You have all these high
Speaker 1: level guys, but that you must be respectful. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna stay friends with guys.
Speaker 2: Like this, you know, Yeah, absolutely? I mean and especially
Speaker 2: like you know some of the people I trained with,
Speaker 2: and you know they're not friends with.
Speaker 1: People to be friends with shows. It does show a
Speaker 1: lot when you start getting a good friends circle, because
Speaker 1: you're gonna you get cut of that shit real quick.
Speaker 1: When you do dumb shit, you know. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: like George, don't they don't put a bullshit like John
Speaker 1: and Gordon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't drink alcohol, I don't do drugs,
Speaker 2: don't smoke weed. Most thing I do have is a
Speaker 2: crippling nicotine addition. But nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, there's worse things.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: What are you doing, like Firearms Instructure now or what?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm the chief Firearms Instructure and director of
Speaker 2: Partnerships or Texas Gun Rights. I'm back in the fight
Speaker 2: where the aregest no compromise gun rights group in the state
Speaker 2: of Texas. We're responsible for force reset triggers being past
Speaker 2: arm turned over in the Supreme Court, uh, pistol braces, bumpstocks,
Speaker 2: constitutional carry. We banned red flag laws and I was
Speaker 2: directly responsible for that one and it was a part
Speaker 2: of that fight. And banning red flag laws in the.
Speaker 1: Same text basins something taken away the red flag of
Speaker 1: those works. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So extreme risk protection orders red flag laws essentially give
Speaker 2: the courts and the police the ability to come into
Speaker 2: your house and to take your firearms due to safety risks.
Speaker 2: Say you have like a crazy extra girl for your
Speaker 2: wife's pissed at you or something, say you're crazy, suicidal,
Speaker 2: you're gonna go shoot up score or something without a
Speaker 2: hearing being had and without you having the proper abilities
Speaker 2: to defend yourself. It says you can get a temporary
Speaker 2: court order or in some states like California, just based
Speaker 2: on law enforcements assessment of the thing, they can come
Speaker 2: in and take your firearms and take away your Second
Speaker 2: Amendment rights. In the state of Texas last session, I
Speaker 2: testified on behalf of that bill and worked with some
Speaker 2: of our legislators and senators on getting that pass to
Speaker 2: where that can no longer happen. A defendant has a
Speaker 2: Fourth Amendment right and fifth and fifth Amendment right, sixth
Speaker 2: Amendment to go in and defend themselves in the court
Speaker 2: of law with an attorney present, before having their guns
Speaker 2: taken away, without being committed, without being accused of a crime.
Speaker 2: Because it's not justice, that's government overreache.
Speaker 1: I agree, like literally the first minute, freedom of speech,
Speaker 1: second right to bare arms. Tho's the two most important moments.
Speaker 1: That's why they're in that order. You know, feat is
Speaker 1: the number one.
Speaker 2: The say second text, the first Yeah.
Speaker 1: Those are I mean, obviously all are important, but those
Speaker 1: are like, you know, and what a brilliant document that
Speaker 1: was written of Our government's kind of been competent now,
Speaker 1: but thank god the founding father has put that they
Speaker 1: could could you imagine our Congress putting that together now,
Speaker 1: like there's no way up.
Speaker 2: With no bump stocks. No, yeah, that's a seventeen round
Speaker 2: block seventeen.
Speaker 1: They're going to ten thousand pages.
Speaker 2: But just think they just you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: read it.
Speaker 1: It's such a brilliant document which so many countries are
Speaker 1: losing their first now they've already lost their second. I mean,
Speaker 1: well they don't have minisitary, they've already lost their gun rice,
Speaker 1: they've lost their freedom of.
Speaker 2: I mean, look it overseas like you have no freedom
Speaker 2: of speech, you have no freedom of religion in some countries.
Speaker 2: Ship you got to London and you say the wrong
Speaker 2: thing on Facebook, they're gonna show up to your house
Speaker 2: and throw you in jail. Same with Canada.
Speaker 1: I've seen post. This is insane.
Speaker 2: Yep, you go to other countries in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: We have the right in this country, as much as
Speaker 2: I disagree with it on certain levels, to do certain things,
Speaker 2: but you get thrown off of roofs in other countries
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know a couple still ye, I disagree with lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Would also disagree with.
Speaker 2: That, yep. Like I don't think you should be killed
Speaker 2: for having your right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that shit shouldn't be celebrated. It should
Speaker 1: be like buried under the closet. It's just live in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. And when I was young, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, I fell for the thing. But did
Speaker 1: you just see just disgusting filth being pushed? And then
Speaker 1: you have children, they're pushing it in the schools and
Speaker 1: it's like, why are they pushing the shit on my Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I have gay friends. One of the guys that
Speaker 2: I brought, I don't hate it as a good friend,
Speaker 2: and like, I don't think anybody should be killed for
Speaker 2: that or thrown off a roof. And there's countries that
Speaker 2: do that. It's insane that some people will do that
Speaker 2: to people for exercising their right. And none of my
Speaker 2: gay friends push that stuff. None of them think it
Speaker 2: should be pushed in schools.
Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm finally gave people as long as are that
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be like your personality, it shouldn't be pushing
Speaker 1: it in schools, like those fucking dudes that would read
Speaker 1: books dressed. It's like a fucking dress. It's like a
Speaker 1: chick like that dude's a pedophile.
Speaker 2: That dude's a pedophile, and that dude needs to be
Speaker 2: thrown in prison.
Speaker 1: Exactly because can't believe that that was like a thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe drag Queen's story. Yeah, it's like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And I I was in sam Scho they were trying
Speaker 1: to push this weirdship daughter. I'm like, no, my daughter's
Speaker 1: not because there's like tons of like trans kids that
Speaker 1: are school They're really just kids that were uncool.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Imagine they have a fucking dumb doctor a parent, they
Speaker 1: give them on drugs to totally ruin their life, sterialize them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's an evil.
Speaker 2: Evil absolutely, And like there's no reason a thirteen year
Speaker 2: old girl needs to be getting put on testosterone. I
Speaker 2: understand it. I have some friends that are women that
Speaker 2: are pregnant, and women do need testosterone a little bit
Speaker 2: to survive, So I get it. I had a friend
Speaker 2: that's a female, she was pregnant, she needed to get
Speaker 2: testosterone shots. That's fine, that'sally improved. That's not turning her
Speaker 2: into a dude that's keeping her in her child alive.
Speaker 1: Well, even if you like ask bodybuilders and stuff, they'll say, oh,
Speaker 1: never takes toostroon until you're like in your twenty early
Speaker 1: twenties or something. They'll tell men, no, no, don't definitely
Speaker 1: don't take stosterone for fourteen fifteen. But you have doctors
Speaker 1: putting like twelve year ols on it. So the bodybuilders
Speaker 1: are giving a lot more sensible device than the doctors.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I don't see anything wrong with testosterone. TRT
Speaker 2: is very helpful for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: It is typically wouldn't one to take it like eighteen
Speaker 1: nineteen shift so much toss stone flourishing through your body anyways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think it could like you know, you stop
Speaker 1: growing once you take it stuff like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's a lot of good research behind it, but
Speaker 2: like it's very controlled when done correct research. Even do
Speaker 2: your blood tests, see your levels. If you're at a
Speaker 2: low level, like say you're in the three hundreds, probably
Speaker 2: should get get on a good dose, get maybe one
Speaker 2: hundred pilgrams a week, which would be a good nice.
Speaker 1: I think there's there's been such a negative push against
Speaker 1: the sastron is so vilified when there's so many positive
Speaker 1: to it. It's a naturally occurring thing. Yeah, absolutely what it is.
Speaker 1: You get these guys take insane amount and they take
Speaker 1: other drugs with it. The bodybuilders, they're taking like fifty
Speaker 1: times the dose are supposed to and like ten drugs.
Speaker 1: But regular disostrone is actually almost like a miracle drug,
Speaker 1: but like a hardly push it that. And like peptides
Speaker 1: are like, uh, peptides are great too, which actually is
Speaker 1: gotten to a peptide country y company Hanobi, which is
Speaker 1: become a huge believer, hought to check out something. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge faver. And peptides, you know, I still have
Speaker 1: only taken a couple of them, but they hill injuries
Speaker 1: or they make injuries speed up, you know, obviously not
Speaker 1: gonna heal all injuries. It helps recovery. It's similar. There's
Speaker 1: one that similar to growth hormone, but the doctors don't
Speaker 1: want them push because they can't patent them. Your patentterfect
Speaker 1: for ones because they're like naturally occurrent menial acids. And
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say there's nothing negative about them,
Speaker 1: but like there's very I haven't found anything negative about
Speaker 1: him yet. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean I've I haven't done a lot of
Speaker 2: research on peptides. I've researched testosterone pretty extensively, and it
Speaker 2: really is a miracle drug for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: But like you said, why are we pushing this on
Speaker 2: young children? Why are we putting estrogen blockers on like
Speaker 2: young little boys, Because that's gonna stunt them for the
Speaker 2: rest of their lives to where they are going to
Speaker 2: need to take testosterone as an adult, because it's going
Speaker 2: to block their entire testoster and production to where they'll
Speaker 2: no longer be able to produce.
Speaker 1: Test test are like serious things.
Speaker 2: They're done wrong and it's going to make them sterile.
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly something. If you could use right, it can
Speaker 1: be good, but if you just randomly use it wrong,
Speaker 1: it's really fuck people up. Absolutely, like chopped tits off girls,
Speaker 1: like guys getting it's.
Speaker 2: Just permanently deforming people.
Speaker 1: So you can't buy a gun, you can't buy a beer,
Speaker 1: you can't buy cigarettes, but oh you chop your dick off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, idea great, It's sort of like voting. I
Speaker 2: cannot right, Yeah, id for everything else, But in most states,
Speaker 2: I don't need an idea to vote.
Speaker 1: The voting thing is funny. It's like these Democrats are like,
Speaker 1: they're so racist, they think black people are uncapable of
Speaker 1: getting They say like, oh, you're racist, it's racist to
Speaker 1: have black people have ideas to vote. Like, no, you're
Speaker 1: the fucking racist. You think black people are too dumb
Speaker 1: to get an ID, and if you are too dumb
Speaker 1: to get an ID, you shouldn't fucking vote.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I think Democrats they funded the kkk
Speaker 2: Ku kux Klan. They were the original racist and I
Speaker 2: still believe they are the racists basically.
Speaker 1: How they in a weird way, like I say, They're like.
Speaker 2: I'm not racist, but no, I have a lot of
Speaker 2: black friends. A good majority of my closest friends happen
Speaker 2: to be black, exactly for somebody that is accused of
Speaker 2: killing all black people.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of black friend clothes being racist too.
Speaker 1: And I have a lot of black friends. I think
Speaker 1: because I'm like real with them, I don't fuck I
Speaker 1: say how I really feel, you know, you know, tiptoe
Speaker 1: around the black crime problems and fucking culture problems. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I don't like black people. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say what I see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like it's it's easy. Some of the
Speaker 2: black people I know are some of the smartest people
Speaker 2: I've ever met. Yes, they're rage conservatives, like thet.
Speaker 1: My black friends are are you and huts Finds? Are
Speaker 1: you right here?
Speaker 2: I haven't met them yet, but I know they're good people.
Speaker 2: In connection with them, yeah, I'd love to have a
Speaker 2: connection with them.
Speaker 1: Oh see if they're on this week, if you've got time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you'd be great for them there, it'd be
Speaker 1: a fun podcast. Friends of mine and I like I
Speaker 1: got to enter one of their truck gill ways right
Speaker 1: after this. They're I love the Hots friends. They're like
Speaker 1: so cool. They don't they're so.
Speaker 2: Down to earth the amount of threats they get, Like,
Speaker 2: these are just black conservatives.
Speaker 1: They gave me in passes so I can drop the
Speaker 1: in word if I want. I love it because they
Speaker 1: give you. They're so light skin, so the two of them,
Speaker 1: between the two of them, it's.
Speaker 2: Like one, yeah, yeah, two equals out I want so.
Speaker 1: I can drop the bombs if I want.
Speaker 2: Perfect I'd be careful on that one. Jay. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe go do it around Chris, go drop it in
Speaker 2: the gym.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna.
Speaker 2: Watch this podcast and he's gonna be like, you race
Speaker 2: his motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to see if he'll talk to you,
Speaker 1: because that was just so insane, out of line, like
Speaker 1: that's all you have to do. You catch had restaurants
Speaker 1: and ship before.
Speaker 2: No, yes, once early in the trial. But there was
Speaker 2: this time where I was in Oregon for an event.
Speaker 2: Do you do you know Sheriff Mark Lamb. No, he's
Speaker 2: a former sheriff of Panel County. I'm good friends with
Speaker 2: his son, Kaid Lamb. And we went out and grab
Speaker 2: braptast in this place in Oregon after an event, and
Speaker 2: there were shards of glass in my food and I
Speaker 2: took a bite and I just felt like a little
Speaker 2: bit of holding this in my mouth and I just
Speaker 2: immediately wrenched my mouth out, took it out, and stopped
Speaker 2: eating anything.
Speaker 1: Did you say anything?
Speaker 2: I didn't. I thought I did say something like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're so sorry, we'll get you another one.
Speaker 1: Sorry, second one fucking arrested.
Speaker 2: But then like three months later I saw on Twitter
Speaker 2: and they're like, we put charge of hard plastic in
Speaker 2: Kyle's food. So it's heart plastic or glass. I think
Speaker 2: it was glass.
Speaker 1: But the person should be arrested.
Speaker 2: They should, but they would never prosecute them in Oregon.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure I can find the place. I should
Speaker 2: probably expose that place.
Speaker 1: Oh you should. Yeah, that's the thing. Like you said, prosecutions,
Speaker 1: you need to be really careful what city you're in
Speaker 1: because it shows these I don't really like doing the
Speaker 1: left right divide, but you can see as a whole
Speaker 1: the Democrats and left is they want to put you
Speaker 1: in prison for life. They wanted they wanted you dead.
Speaker 1: They wanted to take your whole life away. I might
Speaker 1: with that prol that's taking your life away. And you
Speaker 1: were fucking seventeen. That's evil. Oh, that's evil. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I just recently publicly talked about this a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago on Sara Gonzalez's podcast at Blaze Studios.
Speaker 2: But a couple of years ago. So guy tried to
Speaker 2: break into my house. This was the story I was
Speaker 2: telling you about in the gym to where you and Sean,
Speaker 2: where I was naked, but I was taking a shower.
Speaker 2: I was home, sick, not feeling good, was in the
Speaker 2: shower and that I just heard a lot of bang
Speaker 2: on my door and then it got my attention. Another
Speaker 2: bang checked my security camera. I was like, I just
Speaker 2: see a mask guy trying to kick in my door.
Speaker 2: So I hit my panic button. I threw on my plate,
Speaker 2: carrying out my rifle, but it was just balls dangling
Speaker 2: in the middle of the kitchen. Is strong and strong point.
Speaker 2: Thank god my door's reinforced. I'd go with three inch
Speaker 2: screws and all of my studs in all my doors,
Speaker 2: so the door goes into the studs, making it near
Speaker 2: and possible to kick down. He heard the police sirens
Speaker 2: coming because they know when I hit my panic button
Speaker 2: to come very fast.
Speaker 1: I think he was targeting you, not just like a
Speaker 1: random breaking. Probably well.
Speaker 2: Previously following that, the FBI was notified in local police
Speaker 2: department that I was being followed by a drone because
Speaker 2: everywhere I walked leaving there was a drone hovering overhead,
Speaker 2: following my car the parking lot. I would take my
Speaker 2: dog to the dog park. A drone right above the
Speaker 2: dog park watched me. I'd walk back to my apartment.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Outside my window a little bit watching. So I let
Speaker 2: the police know, and I asked him, hey, if I
Speaker 2: shoot this out of the sky, at my getting at rest,
Speaker 2: and they said, you'll get a ticket from US and
Speaker 2: then the FA is gonna come and throw you in
Speaker 2: federal prison. I was like, you don't want to go
Speaker 2: back to not do that. Apparently it's illegal to shoot
Speaker 2: a drone out of this guy, so Saturday not it's
Speaker 2: FA violation shooting a unmanned aircraft or.
Speaker 1: Something out of there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would have grabbed my twelve gage and played skeet
Speaker 2: with it. But then a couple of days later drone stopped.
Speaker 2: The guy was texting me he said, see any drones
Speaker 2: flying around your place lately? On Twitter? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's weird. And that day is when somebody was trying
Speaker 2: to kick.
Speaker 1: Him the door. Yeah it was probably related. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's insane. No, we have to think by the type
Speaker 1: of controversial too, you more than me. But like like
Speaker 1: where we live, we can't have our addresses. A gated
Speaker 1: community is like maybe your girl knows how to use
Speaker 1: a firearm is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I feel better, Like I feel bad somebody
Speaker 2: tries to break in my house and deal with me,
Speaker 2: but I feel extra bad if somebody has to break
Speaker 2: in my house and deal with my wife out a home,
Speaker 2: but not that because she's grabbing the shotgun and she
Speaker 2: is very good.
Speaker 1: It was a funny talk we're having earlier with Sean,
Speaker 1: like run out, balls out. She would probably post the video.
Speaker 1: How viral would that I go, just naked blowing something.
Speaker 2: I mean, you would have to zoom in. I'd have
Speaker 2: to get an only fans account at that point, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, might as well make some money at that, right,
Speaker 1: put that shit and OnlyFans. Yeah, but I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to get them any money. That's such a fucking subverse
Speaker 1: of the fucking.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, but man, could I be rich?
Speaker 1: But yeah, you make the money? Fuck it, put the
Speaker 1: ball shots on there.
Speaker 2: I actually have a friend who's been trying to convince
Speaker 2: me to make an only fans. I told him no,
Speaker 2: but one of his buddies made it only fans and
Speaker 2: he only posts pictures of firearms only fans.
Speaker 1: It was interesting. Only fans was trying to go away
Speaker 1: from the sex work and get people. So they were
Speaker 1: actually contacting me trying to get me to do it.
Speaker 1: And some fighters that did it, they're pretty good money.
Speaker 1: But I just don't like OnlyFans, so.
Speaker 2: I don't like what it stands I don't like it
Speaker 2: turn the money exactly.
Speaker 1: So, even though I would have been doing fight content
Speaker 1: and there, I didn't want to support the organization. I
Speaker 1: felt like it would have been kind of an embarrassment
Speaker 1: and like, uh in a bad look.
Speaker 2: No, no, we got time. I just forget that. Every
Speaker 2: time a watch, people text you twenty four so.
Speaker 1: You get to watch. Why are you Vibra? I need
Speaker 1: to remember to shut my fucking phone down because I
Speaker 1: think they have the sound off. I fucking I keep
Speaker 1: hearing it go for every Now I gotta leave it on.
Speaker 1: It's like we're in the middle of a podcast. Oh yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I mean you disappeared from the Limelight for like a
Speaker 1: year or two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so I haven't heard from.
Speaker 1: You from ever and I saw you make a statement recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so last January, I kind of stepped away from
Speaker 2: the limelight. I was tired of all the hate. I
Speaker 2: was tired of the death threat. But I just saw
Speaker 2: that crazy that you do like that. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: like you witnessed it.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I didn't care, like it didn't. It doesn't bother me,
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 1: Guess I get more insults of people. People and you know,
Speaker 1: we're not that closed. But when people attack my friends,
Speaker 1: people would like attack on me, and it's so unfair.
Speaker 1: It was so unfair too.
Speaker 2: It's not not fair, but it's also life and I've
Speaker 2: learned to deal.
Speaker 1: With that attitude, but it really bothered me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And one of the biggest things that has
Speaker 2: happened over my time being away is being married and
Speaker 2: learning nobody else's opinion matters besides my wife and gods,
Speaker 2: finding finding Jesus, developing a better relationship with him. Me
Speaker 2: and my wife go to church every Sunday. I invite
Speaker 2: all people to go to church on Sunday. It's great.
Speaker 2: Everybody should do it, no matter what your religion is.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge freedom of religion guy. Go to your church,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, your moss, your temple.
Speaker 1: We were just out hanging out with the Muslim, the
Speaker 1: jew and Christians getting along.
Speaker 2: I don't care what people's religions are. We're all humans.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we all bleed red.
Speaker 2: It's our right to.
Speaker 1: I strongly agree with that. I think it's good to
Speaker 1: be religious, but I think we shouldn't have push hatred
Speaker 1: towards any other religion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not my job to judge, and I
Speaker 2: may have a different opinion than than those people, but
Speaker 2: it's also I'm a Christian. I treat people like that
Speaker 2: human story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, dispect you, but if they're putting treating me,
Speaker 1: gave them with respect. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Religion, we're these huge anti Semnites. And people were
Speaker 2: just hanging out with a muscle manner and a Jewish.
Speaker 1: Like Shane's a good friend of mine who's Jewish. Everyone's like,
Speaker 1: you hate Jews. He's like people to always tell him, like,
Speaker 1: ya are your friends with Jay? Because I'm very critical
Speaker 1: of Israel, you know, and some Jews doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: hate all Jews.
Speaker 2: I'm most people are critical of Israel, and like, I'll
Speaker 2: never publicly talk about my standpoint on that, and it's
Speaker 2: totally mine, you know, Like I'll never talk about anything
Speaker 2: on how I feel about the wars or anything or
Speaker 2: my thoughts on that because it's not my brand, it's
Speaker 2: not my issue.
Speaker 1: I tell some people not to like some of my friends.
Speaker 1: That's polity say something like that you don't really understand that, Well,
Speaker 1: it's not your thing. It's better not to unless you
Speaker 1: really understand it and care. And I better just not
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: Certain yes, and like I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1: It's not unless you actually probably research it. I don't
Speaker 1: think you talked about topic unless you actually research it.
Speaker 2: That's my part, Like my issues are gone.
Speaker 1: Might not yet because you might not understand it right
Speaker 1: and jump on the wrong side accidentally. You know, so
Speaker 1: unless you take you know, hours reading, you probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: speak on.
Speaker 2: It hard pert and I will say what happened that
Speaker 2: got me back into the spotlight is I was working
Speaker 2: construction for a little bit. I ended up getting injured
Speaker 2: at a construction job. And then September tenth happened when
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was assassinated. I watched it while on my
Speaker 2: lunch break. I saw it not live, but seconds after happened.
Speaker 2: I knew it immediately, and I broke down because I
Speaker 2: knew Charlie pretty well.
Speaker 1: I know you met up a little bit, but not well.
Speaker 2: That was actually the first time we met Jake was
Speaker 2: at a Turning Point USA event, and I liked him.
Speaker 1: Like we had some disagreements, obviously over the Zionis thing,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't a bad person. We could disagree and I.
Speaker 2: Hate each other, but he didn't deserve to be killed.
Speaker 1: Us being controversial. It's just like that would hit me hard,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: It hit me really hard. And I said, if they're
Speaker 2: going to kill a man for exercising his First Amendment
Speaker 2: right and using his voice to not attack people but
Speaker 2: debate people, because Charlie would always go out and he
Speaker 2: would say change my mind, and he would debate people
Speaker 2: on college campuses and he had a lot of backing
Speaker 2: and he did change a lot of minds, and it's
Speaker 2: incredible the work he was able to do. But seeing
Speaker 2: that all stripped away from him, a husband, a father,
Speaker 2: radicalizes me. It radicalized me more than anything in my
Speaker 2: entire life seeing that happen, seeing that being taken away
Speaker 2: from him, taken away from his family, knowing him on
Speaker 2: a personal level, and having spent a lot of time
Speaker 2: with him. So I made that decision with my wife.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm getting back into the fight and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do this to pick up the mic. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to be silenced anymore. I'm not going to let
Speaker 2: these leftists win, these violent antifa transvestites win. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go out there and I'm gonna stand up for what
Speaker 2: I believe in, just as Charlie stood up for what
Speaker 2: he believed in.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to like these people they killed him
Speaker 1: and they wanted to take your life a way of
Speaker 1: putting you in prison. So it's like these people want is
Speaker 1: dead or in prison for life. So he's like, you
Speaker 1: have to stand up. What do you be careful to
Speaker 1: not be like all leftists? But there's too many of
Speaker 1: them think that way. Yeah, there's way too many of them.
Speaker 1: At a good leftist too, but there's too many things
Speaker 1: that way. Like, So it's I was sickened by like
Speaker 1: I put something out brain for Charlie and had people
Speaker 1: being like, oh, he's a Zionist.
Speaker 2: Why are you Wow, it was a human being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were like I couldn't believe the people were
Speaker 1: attacking me. Were like, you are sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's disgusting the people that celebrate what happened
Speaker 2: to him discuss it's it makes me sick what they
Speaker 2: what they've said about me, saying they're gonna kirk me
Speaker 2: for coming up back into the fight in honor of Charlie.
Speaker 2: But like there's been.
Speaker 1: No they might really a death threat sometimes is it
Speaker 1: going to be? You never know which ones are real
Speaker 1: because you don't tell people, can only scare people around me.
Speaker 1: But was like, of course I get death threats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I work with that behind all my death threats.
Speaker 2: But I also carry a gun every single place I go.
Speaker 2: I mean, I want sitting behind me right now in
Speaker 2: your studio. Not that I don't trust you, Jake, I
Speaker 2: just know I don't.
Speaker 1: Know what's just tried. Fucking you have any to go?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, we're the hood.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I used to not carry guns, but I would never
Speaker 1: any guns because I was a good fighter. But after
Speaker 1: George Floyd Rice was the same, the police stood down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy shit, the police aren't.
Speaker 2: How many people can you take in a fight, though, Jake, Exactly,
Speaker 2: I'm not can you take like I know you can
Speaker 2: take me one on water to fight, but can you
Speaker 2: take thirty of me? I wanted to fight.
Speaker 1: If people don't how to jump me properly, I could
Speaker 1: take a bunch of people. But if they don't dump properly,
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, they all bob at once. I'm fucked.
Speaker 1: If guys come one in time, I use it. Can
Speaker 1: I beat in big groups? You floor a couple of
Speaker 1: them and they get scared. But if they all attack
Speaker 1: you at lunch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know if me and my buddies were
Speaker 2: to jump, you know, we're all going for your arms.
Speaker 1: Yet you have to all attack it once, exactly. People
Speaker 1: do know how attack it once though. If they come one
Speaker 1: to time, I can fuck a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Up and they're probably gonna get hit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I couldn't believe just watching the cops stand down.
Speaker 1: I called with my friend that had a lot of guns.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I couldn't pick up one of your
Speaker 1: guns right now. If I'm getting a shotgun a pistol,
Speaker 1: obviously that's a legal band. You know. Fuck got a
Speaker 1: couple of guns in my house because there was just
Speaker 1: riots everywhere, and the cops literally just stood down.
Speaker 2: They stood down, And I just saw another ruling got
Speaker 2: pushed in California to where cops can no longer use
Speaker 2: less than lethal devices on rioters. I'm like, okay, so
Speaker 2: what are they supposed to use now? Lethal devices?
Speaker 1: They have weird rules, Like in New York they made
Speaker 1: a rule where you you can't choke someone and you
Speaker 1: can't put like weight on their stern them. Now you
Speaker 1: know a little about ju jitsu, if you can't choke
Speaker 1: someone you can't put in the sternum, how are you
Speaker 1: going to arrest them? I actually had a weird incidence
Speaker 1: in New York. I was it was right after George
Speaker 1: Floyd Riyce. I was out there and I got a
Speaker 1: sandwich and I was eating it on the stairs. There's
Speaker 1: maybe seven or eight guys up behind me, like some
Speaker 1: black guys, and they're eating and they come over. The
Speaker 1: cops tell me I had to leave with the COVID
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, well, there's a black guys behind me,
Speaker 1: so I'm not leaving unless they do. And they kept
Speaker 1: just like not acknowledging the black guys are and telling
Speaker 1: me I had to leave, and I'm just like no,
Speaker 1: and like we're gonna rest you. Then I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: there's no way the two of you guys can rest
Speaker 1: me because I know the new laws. You better call
Speaker 1: back up. So he called back up and then the
Speaker 1: guy got there and thankfully the sergeant, a black guy,
Speaker 1: told the guys here all handle us leave and he's like,
Speaker 1: he's like, I apologize, that was so ridiculous. He's the
Speaker 1: guy was black and apologize. He's, Oh, we have these
Speaker 1: crazy rules right now. We can't arrest black people unless
Speaker 1: we're doing something ridiculously violent. But that was just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: They tried kicking off the stairs. I apologize and then
Speaker 1: so the least that guy handled it good, but prosecution
Speaker 1: because I was just I'm just not going to move,
Speaker 1: and there's like I'm not gonna be treated different from
Speaker 1: our race. It's like it's like segregation again. The black
Speaker 1: guy could sit there. It was a weird time in
Speaker 1: New York, like it was during the mass too, So
Speaker 1: they let the black people walk in without masks in
Speaker 1: the stour. For white people, they say, put on your mask.
Speaker 1: So I just started being like I was black when
Speaker 1: I walked in, and it worked every time. Once I
Speaker 1: said that, people they stopped telling me put it on.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe how. I don't know how long
Speaker 1: that lost the card now though yeah, I got the
Speaker 1: in card from the Hodge Twins. Now, I just don't
Speaker 1: know how long that went on. But there was like
Speaker 1: at least a three four months period in New York
Speaker 1: where they completely had different rules for black and white people.
Speaker 2: So I do want to ask you this. I'm huge
Speaker 2: into fighting all of watching MMA, and I love Jiuits
Speaker 2: it was one of my favorite supports. I think it's
Speaker 2: one of the most practical, definitely sports and learning how
Speaker 2: to fight and defend yourself. What advice do you have
Speaker 2: to any person just getting into jiujitsu? Where should they start?
Speaker 2: What basics do they need to learn? What should they
Speaker 2: look for?
Speaker 1: To Jim Okay, that's a very hard question because, like
Speaker 1: I obviously can walk into gym and know right away
Speaker 1: if they're confident or not.
Speaker 2: I take Dan's advice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're an amazing place, so you are very fortunate.
Speaker 1: You walked in the best best trainers in the world.
Speaker 1: And if they're telling you a jam's good, it's kind
Speaker 1: of be good. But it's what a what a regular
Speaker 1: person looks too. Fuck, I'm trying to think because it's
Speaker 1: not just belts, because there's tons of black belts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: belts don't black belt like me, Gordon time, guys, they
Speaker 1: suck black felts like we just run through these. I'm
Speaker 1: in terrible shape right now, but I'm I'm shaped. I've
Speaker 1: tack like eight times in five minutes. We tap on
Speaker 1: a black belt and stuff. It's a different level we understand. Fuck,
Speaker 1: how do you identify? I mean, you could look at
Speaker 1: the guy. If the guy has like credentials of like
Speaker 1: winning worlds, that type of stuff. But it's but you
Speaker 1: can have amazing teachers that haven't competed that much. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of how would someone that doesn't know
Speaker 1: identify it. I think the best thing is if you
Speaker 1: know friends that are in GIT to try to ask,
Speaker 1: because god damn wish I could think of a good reason,
Speaker 1: a good way to identify, because it's not just it's
Speaker 1: not off belts. It's if someone's on world titles, are
Speaker 1: probably good. But some people are good, but they're not
Speaker 1: good at teaching.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean there's certain gyms out there that
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident I could probably take some of their
Speaker 2: purple belts, and I'm just a white belt exactly.
Speaker 1: You also, it's important to you might be a gym
Speaker 1: where some people are good but getting completely ignored. You
Speaker 1: want to make sure well for you you have you're
Speaker 1: a march man. You have people that might want to
Speaker 1: fuck you up, so you have to be very careful here.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not getting in any tournaments and I
Speaker 2: probably will never compete because you had a lot good first. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well I've talked. I talked with my coaches a lot.
Speaker 2: If I ever get up to a level to where
Speaker 2: I'm like a black belt and I'm getting really serious
Speaker 2: about it and not just learning it for the stress
Speaker 2: reliever and the fundamentals, and I just love it because
Speaker 2: the stress.
Speaker 1: That's for me too, Like don't go over they try
Speaker 1: to shutting it down. I have to train. I just
Speaker 1: tried to starting to go crazy, like I know I
Speaker 1: have to train.
Speaker 2: I can go about with my four days without training
Speaker 2: to where I'm just like I new gym.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I started getting like I fucking need to.
Speaker 1: I start getting like my meditation is like my stress reliever.
Speaker 2: You're actually supposed to meet my coach today. You would
Speaker 2: have liked him a lot. He He ended up getting
Speaker 2: stuck in Austin for a couple of days. He was
Speaker 2: training down at Gordon Ryan's gym.
Speaker 1: At least he's a good place.
Speaker 2: But I was like, hey, you know in Vegas. You're
Speaker 2: coming through today. He was like, I gotta be in
Speaker 2: Miami and tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I was like, I get it, bro, I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: out to Austin soon. You come out, we can.
Speaker 2: Shoot, like I'll teach you to shoot you teacher.
Speaker 1: I'll come with us too. That'd be cool.
Speaker 2: I was texting Gordon the other day. He said, next
Speaker 2: time I mount on Austin, you must go shooting.
Speaker 1: So that'd be awesome because like, I need to get
Speaker 1: way better at shooting. I've only been like ten times
Speaker 1: and that is not near enough. I need Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: get you really like a time a gun can just it.
Speaker 1: Need to be really comfortable with it.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I do. So clear your
Speaker 2: gun when you're at home with your whole strawn you're
Speaker 2: watching a movie. Just sit there and draw. Sit there
Speaker 2: and draw. Do that about twenty times. Get the draw down,
Speaker 2: balance a quarter or an empty casing on the round
Speaker 2: of your gun. Get a good grip, sit, find a target,
Speaker 2: pull the trigger, make sure the quarter doesn't drop. Rewrack
Speaker 2: your gun, do it again, rebalance.
Speaker 1: Keep doing that so people don't understand that don't shoot.
Speaker 1: Like it's like the handling your gun, the getting it
Speaker 1: out quick, staying. I think I'd be good at staying
Speaker 1: calmon or pressure from the fighting, but like absolutely handling
Speaker 1: situational awareness.
Speaker 2: I've I've always had tremendous situation.
Speaker 1: Or good at that, Like where your backs are where
Speaker 1: people are at from all those three vices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like watching reflection, seeing what's behind you, knowing your surroundings.
Speaker 2: Just I've always had amazing, suprendous situational awareness, and I
Speaker 2: think that has to do with when.
Speaker 1: I used to wrestle wrestling, but.
Speaker 2: Like it's only gotten so much better doing just it too,
Speaker 2: because like now I can look at somebody and I
Speaker 2: can see exactly what your hands are doing, just with
Speaker 2: making eye contact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like for me, like I always state like I'll
Speaker 1: never let's not getting touching range. In touching range, I've
Speaker 1: been work for a while. Everyone says, oh, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: have interfered. But if, like I see a dude harassing
Speaker 1: a girl somewhere, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop them. People
Speaker 1: will try to do the argument of oh, they voted
Speaker 1: for it, which I understand, but at the same point,
Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm not gonna listen to harass a girl.
Speaker 1: Stop the situations.
Speaker 2: But I'm not the only time a girl should get
Speaker 2: punched in the face. If that girl thinks it's if
Speaker 2: it was a boy, then it's on you. Then it's
Speaker 2: not a girl.
Speaker 1: I joke only a few years ago I put out
Speaker 1: like I think, like taking ship sent out to tweet
Speaker 1: like I challenge the toughest ten trans men in the world,
Speaker 1: one after a next I'll beat them all for some reason,
Speaker 1: which is so viral every news. Well, okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: do the fight then, But I couldn't find the ten
Speaker 1: transmit because that's actually women. Yeah, that'd be so easy.
Speaker 1: A lot of people got a few styles trying to
Speaker 1: fight men. It's like I would easily beat them and
Speaker 1: even off a one hundred thousand on of my own money
Speaker 1: if they'd come and fight me. But I couldn't find
Speaker 1: the ten.
Speaker 2: Do I get one hundred thousand dollars if I identify
Speaker 2: them for a day?
Speaker 1: No women that identify men that I challenge.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm identify as a woman.
Speaker 1: Ye, but that's the thing, thousand bucks. I wanted to
Speaker 1: show the absurdity of how you can be a man
Speaker 1: and going women's sports and dominate. But but women never
Speaker 1: go on men's sports, even if they're trans, they still
Speaker 1: go women. Just a difference in athleticism is so mad.
Speaker 2: Nothing against women, but I will say, like, there are
Speaker 2: some women at my gym that can kick my.
Speaker 1: Ass, becau there's no woman that can kick my ass.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe once you get at a level, soon you'll build
Speaker 1: all the girls give you another.
Speaker 2: I think there's one female that can.
Speaker 1: There's one insanely good girl at Gordon's Gym that too good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a pay attention, but I'm still gonna fuck
Speaker 1: her up. She's fucking what's her name? She is so good?
Speaker 2: Is she the European girl?
Speaker 1: Does that one? She's young like dark hair.
Speaker 2: I know you're talking about the driving case.
Speaker 1: You can do her name. She's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she will kick my ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll fuck her up. I'll fuck her up
Speaker 1: for you know, just like as a man, I could
Speaker 1: not fucking lose to your girl. But then as an
Speaker 1: athlete you realize just the insanity and the difference of
Speaker 1: the level of technique. Oh, it's the level of athleticism.
Speaker 1: It's just like a few times I start a girl,
Speaker 1: I'm a plane like ha ha, you know you can
Speaker 1: hit me. But I mean, obviously that one girl have
Speaker 1: to go a little bit harder. Yep. That's like the
Speaker 1: best girl in the role. She like taps out everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now there's some incredible fighters at King's Way, and
Speaker 2: it's it's great, Jim. It's just like I'll go and
Speaker 2: roll for maybe about an hour or two, and then
Speaker 2: I'll just watch because that's the best thing I've learned
Speaker 2: is sitting on the sideline and like I want to
Speaker 2: be in there and I want to be rolling, But
Speaker 2: watching what other people doing and trying to pick up
Speaker 2: from what those people are training in and what they're
Speaker 2: doing has been the biggest lesson I've learned for myself.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend people doing that. You need to train too.
Speaker 1: You can't just watch, but then you watch the very
Speaker 1: elite and you see the little micro details are doing
Speaker 1: and like you're literally watching the best in the world.
Speaker 1: Like Gordon doesn't do any fucking mistakes. It drives me
Speaker 1: crazy rises and sing because he doesn't fucking make mistakes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's he's such he there's a reason why he's
Speaker 2: the greatest at all time at jujitsu. And a lot
Speaker 2: of people try to debate.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people really, I don't think few
Speaker 1: people now try.
Speaker 2: To bait you on it, but I'm like, he's definitely
Speaker 2: look at his record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a young age too. He's brilliant and
Speaker 1: getting you tired too, because he makes you use more
Speaker 1: energy than he's using.
Speaker 2: Yep, So like that's the.
Speaker 1: Top of you knows how to ride his weight where
Speaker 1: you're fucking getting gassed out. He has it all like
Speaker 1: he's a he's a genius of how he's he's complete,
Speaker 1: complete genius, in my opinion, masterpiece. It's like pure art,
Speaker 1: like martial arts art. Watching him go. Yes, it is
Speaker 1: like you're smart that you sit there and watch the
Speaker 1: great so you can learn so much doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's hard sometimes because I want to keep going.
Speaker 2: I have. I have an incredible endurance. I lost one
Speaker 2: hundred pounds I.
Speaker 1: Used to you gained one hundred pounds before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was morbidly obese for a second after I
Speaker 2: saw you and stuff. Yeah it was I got to
Speaker 2: show you a photo.
Speaker 1: What happened to depression or what it was?
Speaker 2: Just a little bit of depression and just like not
Speaker 2: really caring about myself, hating the world.
Speaker 1: Why did you get depressed? All the stress?
Speaker 2: All the stress? Everything I did was eat and I
Speaker 2: was a fat.
Speaker 1: Glad you got fucking normal again. Beating fat sucks.
Speaker 2: I got an amazing photo. I'll see if I can
Speaker 2: show on the camera, fat Kyle.
Speaker 1: I'll put it up on the on the screen. D
Speaker 1: What do you recognize these guys won't be trying to
Speaker 1: fight you at the gym?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, but think you hate yourself? Yeah yeah right.
Speaker 2: It looks like I ate myself to me in there.
Speaker 2: But then I started losing weight, so my endurance is
Speaker 2: super incredible. My cardio is very high.
Speaker 1: It's terrible right now, so I get a fight, I'm like, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I gotta try it in this quick.
Speaker 2: So I don't drink I know this is terrible. I
Speaker 2: don't drink water when I train. I drink water before
Speaker 2: and after training, and I'll put salt in my water.
Speaker 2: I don't do those like flavor.
Speaker 1: I don't drink water train either. But I think it
Speaker 1: goes back to wrestling. Our coach when't let's drink water,
Speaker 1: drink training.
Speaker 2: That's exactly why I don't.
Speaker 1: That why I too. So it was fired in my
Speaker 1: head that I can't drink water train.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Dan was like, why don't you go get
Speaker 2: some water the other day? And I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't drink.
Speaker 1: Water training, that's funny.
Speaker 2: Before and after and I put salt, just table salt
Speaker 2: in my water because that kicks out the sodium and
Speaker 2: that's what hydrates you super fast, and it's the cleanest
Speaker 2: way to hydrate yourself. And I'll just do that and
Speaker 2: I'm good to go for the entire time. Not out
Speaker 2: of breath terribly. I'm so con wet most of the time.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying people on like the side.
Speaker 1: Just sweating like that. Yeah, it's so funny. I dodn'tdrink
Speaker 1: water either. We weren't allowed to, and it's just my
Speaker 1: body is like that. Still, well, let's wrap up with
Speaker 1: before you got a gun show a bunch of shit today.
Speaker 1: I just want to focus go one more time back
Speaker 1: to the fucking the trial. What you're dealing with if
Speaker 1: you were seventeen or did you turn eighteen at that point.
Speaker 2: I was eighteen when I got acquitted.
Speaker 1: You're looking at life in prison without role like adults.
Speaker 1: I don't imagine the stress, Like what was that like
Speaker 1: in your life? I must have just like.
Speaker 2: It was stressful, and I I really had to deconnect
Speaker 2: from it sort of in a way of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if it happens, it happens, and I just have to
Speaker 2: I would just have to accept it at some point,
Speaker 2: knowing I would have just been killed in prison.
Speaker 1: How do you because they would think you were a
Speaker 1: racism Yeah, yeah, they would want to kill you.
Speaker 2: I knew I would have been killed as soon as
Speaker 2: I got put on the floor. But I already accepted
Speaker 2: my fate with the Lord during that time. And who's good.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the Nazis or something, but I killed
Speaker 2: one of their own. The first guy I killed was
Speaker 2: you have to come and get a white supress. But
Speaker 2: the funny thing is the guy, that first guy that
Speaker 2: attacked me was like a Nazi.
Speaker 1: He wasn't two of them Jewish, I think. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know any of that to be true or anything.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. But the first guy, Joseph Rosenbaum,
Speaker 2: he was He was like a white supremacist type dude
Speaker 2: who we found out.
Speaker 1: Before, which obviously you're not hateful towards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like in a white premacist gang at present.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're different races religions.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And like my mother in law is like an
Speaker 2: authentic Mexican. She's from the middle of Mexico who came
Speaker 2: here legally, but doesn't better.
Speaker 1: Than that language. She's getting deported.
Speaker 2: I know, she'll be fine. But she still doesn't know English.
Speaker 2: But never had a conversation with her. But my wife
Speaker 2: is fluent into Spanish. Very cultural. We love traveling to
Speaker 2: different places, we love different cultures, but when we go
Speaker 2: to those other places, we respect their culture.
Speaker 1: I always study the cultures before I go somewhere, see
Speaker 1: with the artists, see the customs. So I'm not doing
Speaker 1: something disrespectful.
Speaker 2: Because just like you said earlier, like we're talking about
Speaker 2: a different topic of christaying that was his home, but no,
Speaker 2: it wasn't his home, but we're going to their home,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna respect their home.
Speaker 1: Exactly, if Randy dash you to leave unforced, you'd have
Speaker 1: to say, sorry, we have to go because he's home.
Speaker 1: We were in but my home.
Speaker 2: He met me, and Randy was nice to you.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: It was he was nice and if he did if
Speaker 2: he had a problem, he would have told been like,
Speaker 2: hey he follows your Twitter. Yeah, he follows me on
Speaker 2: Twitter like bankers sweet. Yeah, he would have just asked
Speaker 2: us to leave right then and there exactly for something.
Speaker 1: Then Unfortunately we would have had to go because in
Speaker 1: his home, I would respect it.
Speaker 2: I would have been like, hey, no, worries at all.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for alignment opportunity to even be
Speaker 2: here in the beginning.
Speaker 1: You handle it so well. I'm more like wanting to
Speaker 1: find people.
Speaker 2: Oh look, I leave everything on the mat, and that's
Speaker 2: my only role with people who somewhat respect me or No.
Speaker 1: I'm actually pretty mellow overall. It's just I felt like
Speaker 1: it would disrespect how my guest felt like just such
Speaker 1: a slap in the face. And then you've already it
Speaker 1: felt like he's on you, You've already dealt with so
Speaker 1: much too. Like I can't imagine those four days when
Speaker 1: you're waiting for the fucking It was long.
Speaker 2: And then my stomach sank when I the jury. The
Speaker 2: entire day, I couldn't eat. I think I lost like
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen pounds in those four days. It was great.
Speaker 2: It was like not even a water fast. I couldn't
Speaker 2: even drink liquids.
Speaker 1: And when they're sitting there just standing, it takes so long, right,
Speaker 1: and you're just here, like actually listened to the verdict live.
Speaker 1: It's weird. We were sitting there. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like stressed out for you, Like, is they gonna
Speaker 1: put this kid in prison for life?
Speaker 2: Just the weight that got removed from my back when
Speaker 2: the verdict was red.
Speaker 1: Was just it was just like just really I couldn't
Speaker 1: imagine that relief. I just felt, yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: got to reput your life together back after that, which
Speaker 1: looks like you're really good right now.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I put all the credit to God.
Speaker 2: And then I've learned things that helped me out in
Speaker 2: the world of stress, like going to the range, going
Speaker 2: to the gym, going to jiu jitsu. Hopefully I'll be
Speaker 2: getting to MMA within the next two years. Just I
Speaker 2: want to get really good at jiu jitsu before I go.
Speaker 1: To I go telling you earlier, I would do jusu
Speaker 1: for like a year, then start doing the boxing and stuff,
Speaker 1: unless you're trying to fight sooner, but I would just
Speaker 1: try to.
Speaker 2: I still think I agree with my buddy my coaches
Speaker 2: on it. I think like I don't know if I'll
Speaker 2: ever be out of I know I'll never be at
Speaker 2: a level of like a Damn Man Sue or Gordon
Speaker 2: Ryer or Jake Shields or even Shane or.
Speaker 1: You want to do some fights, but I'd love to.
Speaker 2: Do some fights. But like man, I could see people
Speaker 2: like Chris I don't even think I'll ever be at
Speaker 2: a level at Chris.
Speaker 1: I think something like that would happen. I jokingly says,
Speaker 1: anyone try fuck up here, And I pointed him and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, maybe him, and I can't believe that happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I could see him dropping classes just so
Speaker 2: he can maybe get in a ring with me and
Speaker 2: cause harm against me and actually do his best to
Speaker 2: physically hurt me. I know, when you're in a ring,
Speaker 2: you're not trying to hurt the other person trying to
Speaker 2: win a fight.
Speaker 1: When you're actually fighting, you're kind of hurt the person.
Speaker 1: But I think you actually can make pretty good money
Speaker 1: fighting because you have such a big name. He'd want
Speaker 1: to develop the skills first, but you could get like
Speaker 1: big way bigger fights than a regular person right away.
Speaker 1: But you definitely want to get the skills.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get good and I'll fight Jake, Paul.
Speaker 1: You're right, you can fight guys like that, like because
Speaker 1: some of these organizations they pay guys good because it's
Speaker 1: not just you know, it's not your skills. It's like
Speaker 1: you're people are gonna want to watch you fight, People
Speaker 1: are gonna pep you hate you, people love you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to find somebody about supporters too. A
Speaker 2: lot of people like you have noticed too. If you'd
Speaker 2: be hate on you, but a lot of people give
Speaker 2: you a lot of I mean, you saw a good
Speaker 2: majority in the gym.
Speaker 1: It was like ninety percent, it was ninety nine. It
Speaker 1: was only one person.
Speaker 2: It was one person. The rest of the people who
Speaker 2: may have not liked me, they didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: The black I thought I was out him for a second.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, not you like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: like I don't want beef with J're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you are causing the problem. But thanks so much for
Speaker 1: coming on so much too and looking so much cool.
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