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Speaker 1: Made a decision a face sunny Sun on Ihad Vision.

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Speaker 2: What's nice to me?

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome to for crying out loud, guess what what.

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Speaker 2: That voice is not Lynette? Lynette is God.

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Speaker 3: This bitch went to Florida to like, I don't know,

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celebrate our birthday or something, have some me time.

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Speaker 2: Which that's so not what moms should be doing.

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Speaker 1: And it's so seventies.

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Speaker 2: Really, she's on strike. She's on mom strike.

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Speaker 3: She's walking around picking herself. Yeah, yeah, having some meat. Anyway,

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we have Robin Wazinski.

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Speaker 1: Robin, Hi, everybody here, I am.

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Speaker 2: And we're still gonna make this a great show.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Robin's gonna try her best to bring bring

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the the Lynette sparkle to the show.

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Speaker 1: No pressure at all, thank you.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Robin, you have your own sparkle. Thank you,

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you have your own like.

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Speaker 1: Hi Kailin, Hi Kitlin, how are you doing good? A

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little sweaty but very hot in here.

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Speaker 3: See I'm starting to get the blow of it. It's like,

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you know, when you first get in your car in

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California and it's one hundred and fifteen degrees in the car, Yeah,

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and you don't feel the ac at all for a

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little while, but then suddenly you're like, oh, I'm starting

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to feel human again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm waiting for that.

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Speaker 2: Swap places now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just complaining. It's what I do these days.

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Speaker 3: Listen, we're in Patrick's garage. Basically, it's nice.

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Speaker 1: Although it's really nice.

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Speaker 2: It's really nice.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's video, right, so people have seen his croag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not like we're like panic around.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 3: You know what we should do, Kaitlin for our video.

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We should put our forur crying out loud logo behind us.

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Speaker 2: When we ReCore. Yeah, that would seem so profreshed.

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Speaker 1: It would that would be that'd be sweet.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to do it right the second too,

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Let's go.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 2: While you do that, I'm gonna say hi to our people.

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Speaker 1: Oh and chime in if I remember. I will chime in.

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Speaker 2: Because you probably sometimes skip this part.

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Speaker 1: Not usually, but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: How about Elizabeth Williamson know anything about her? Nope, She's

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got a lot of kids.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: And what does reed to do with Elizabeth Williamson's kids?

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Speaker 1: Does she accost them? No? Start it?

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Speaker 2: How about hero Yamashta.

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Speaker 1: Yep, his kids love him.

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Speaker 2: They sure do. And what about Jacob Crowley.

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Speaker 1: Well he's growley.

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Speaker 2: He is growley, but like the sweetest, sweetest it's like

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a little her and Leslie Acosta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's at Ikia right now. I started waiting by

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the elevator, trying to traffic.

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Speaker 2: Not kids, though she doesn't she tries to. She's trying

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to traffic grandparents.

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Speaker 1: People's elderly parents who.

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Speaker 3: Were Yeah, you know she does is she kidnaps them

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and then she gives them to other families who don't

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have like a working grandparent.

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Speaker 1: Well that I mean that seems charitable. That's almost a

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rap unhut kind.

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Speaker 2: By working, I don't mean having a job. I mean like, no,

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actively helping their child with their kids, loving them, buying

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them stuff to animals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, buying them things like parents would never buy them.

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Speaker 3: No, you know what that reminds me. And I'm going

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to tell you this little story a little bit later

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about going shopping with Xander. But there was a woman

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in line who was clearly talking to her mom, and

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she was like, mom, well obviously that's how she was

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talking her mom. But she was like, weren't you saying

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you wanted to buy nice things for like whatever her

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kids is, Amelia, because I'm in line right now with

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like a whole we have a haul, and I was thinking, God,

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that must be so nice. What must that be like

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to be able to like, I see if she feels.

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Speaker 1: Like paying logistically, how does that work? Then it's a

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mom just gonna venmo her whatever the total is.

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Speaker 3: Probably she's going to be like, oh my gosh, I

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can't wait to spoil my Amelia.

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Speaker 2: Huh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the longest shout out ever.

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Speaker 3: Right, Uh, it's long because you know why, we have

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fans that love us and.

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Speaker 1: Support us, and they deserve it.

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Speaker 3: They do deserve it. They deserve us to take our time. Yeah,

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what is happening with you? School has started. For those

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of you who don't know, Robin is a teacher. She

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teaches first grade. She's spent many, many years teaching kindergarten yep.

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Speaker 1: And when my when I had that full year on

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zoom with kindergarteners, yeah, I chose to move to first

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grade the following year and loop that whole class with

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was really amazing and I totally special bond with those

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kids because it was such a weird couple of years.

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But I'm really glad I did that, and I'm actually

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really enjoying first grade. Believe it or not, that one

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year makes such a difference in just independence, Like there's

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I mean, in kindergarten. I know it's such a silly

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cliche to say it's like hurting cats, but it really is.

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It's like you tell one person to do something and

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you're only talking to that one person. The other twenty

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five are still wandering around. It's even with an announcement.

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They have to learn watch what other people are doing.

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When I'm talking to the class, I'm talking to all

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of you, and it's very very hard.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. I've always kind of wondered this.

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so you start, Let's say you start kindergarten. You've got

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a brand new class, and you know you're only the

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first parent teacher conference is usually fairly early in the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what the hell do.

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Speaker 3: You have to say about all those kids to their

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parents so that you sound like you really are getting

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to know little Joey.

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Speaker 1: Well By that time? Because we have our conferences the

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end of the first trimester. We have three grading periods. Okay,

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so in kindergarten, we don't give a report card the

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first trimester. We actually just sit down with every parent

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and talk to them about how they're writing.

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Speaker 2: But it's only you're only like a couple months into school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you get to know a kid pretty quickly,

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and by then I've also done formal assessments, so I know,

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like where they are academically with number sense and letter

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recognition and blending, and some kids are reading. And by

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then also you kind of just get to know, like

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what their preferences are and what they like, and what

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their behaviors are like and if you need to talk

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to a parent about it. But if a kid is

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having behavior issues, the conference would not be the first

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time a parent was hearing about it.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. No, Like I just head back

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to school night and I said, you will never be

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surprised on a report card. You will have heard from

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me if I have concerns, either academically or behaviorally.

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Speaker 2: So that's that call you really don't want to get.

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M Hi, this is missus Wazinski. Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to chat with you, if we could

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just have a few minutes to chat about Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes I'll say, have you been waiting for me

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to call you? Because so often you just know they're

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seeing the same behaviors at home and.

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Speaker 2: They're just waiting for somebody to confirm.

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Speaker 1: It, well confirm it or just pray, just wing in

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a prayer that things are different at school, you know,

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an experience where I had a little boy who I

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knew one hundred percent was on the spectrum, but he

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was undiagnosed, and so I called her. And you can't

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ever give a label or die to a parent. You

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can only tell what you're observing. So when I called her,

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I said, I just wanted to talk to you about

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some behaviors I've been seeing at school, and I wanted

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to see if you're seeing the same things at home.

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one activity to another. He's crying when he gets frustrated,

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he takes his shoes off, and he climbs under the table.

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I mean, he was having huge behaviors. And I was

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probably two sentences in and she broke into tears and

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she said, missus Wizinski, do you think he has autism?

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you have concerns, we can certainly help you find out.

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had concerns for years and the family was like, you

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worry too much. She's fine, It's just he's just young.

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another person was like, yeah, there's something going on, so

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let's figure it out. So within a couple months he

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had a one on one aid and oh.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, And was she like grateful?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's was just a lovely such a neat mom.

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I still see her, and I still see him. He's

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Speaker 2: And how's he doing.

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Speaker 1: He's sweet, you know, he's still you can tell he's

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on the spectrum, but obviously not tantruming anymore and really

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just sweet and quiet. But he talks, and so yeah,

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he's a really neat kid.

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Speaker 3: Have you had that happen a lot? I feel like

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a lot of kids are on the spectrum.

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because again, I think there's just so much denial that

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can happen around it that it's like, okay, well, let's

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just I think you probably keep giving yourself like benchmarks,

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like okay, well we'll talk to the pediatrician at three.

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till interparted. And if preschool didn't talk to them about it,

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they've convinced themselves that there's not an issue. But I'm

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always the one to bring it up. So, yeah, it's

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several preschools for behaviors that seemed to indicate some sort

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of issue, but she just wouldn't hear it. She was

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just like, Nope, my kid is just very bright, and

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to do. And she was reading really really young, like

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very very young, taught.

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Speaker 1: Herself to read, which can be a red flag.

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Speaker 3: Right right, But I mean she just would not hear

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it kind of still won't even though her kid ended

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Speaker 1: And it's just so interesting to me because I feel it,

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and I know I'm sure I've said this on the

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podcast before, but everyone is so worried about their kid

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having a label. But people are going to label your

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kid for their behaviors and either they're going to be

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calling them a jerk or rude, or they don't want

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their kid near them, or they have a label of autism.

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how can we be more flexible with this kid? How

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can we help them transition and engage with other kids

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instead of just having being sort of hostile toward them.

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Labels are going to happen, so let's make it the

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actual label that can get them some help.

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Speaker 3: Have you personally experienced where you've called and been like, Okay,

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this parent is going to be relieved and you're like,

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are you seeing these behaviors and the mom goes, nope.

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think it was autism. I thought there was a language

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development issue and they were just like, no, he's fine

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at home, you know, I offered to have the speech

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therapist just come in and listen to him and see

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the parents have been open to like, oh, thank you

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for telling me.

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Speaker 1: Well, they couldn't not because the behaviors were so outrageous.

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you're having extreme behaviors, then the parent's willing to listen,

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especially because the parent is having issues at home too,

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so they yeah, or kids have come in diagnosed, but yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: But sometimes is the behavior not egregious, but you're just

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and you feel like you want to give them a

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heads up because it would be good for them to

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look into some kind of intervention.

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Speaker 1: I usually don't if a kid is performing academically on

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grade level, if they're kind of going with the flow socially,

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even if I know that there's probably something going on, no,

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it's so subtle, it's that would be a really awkward conversation,

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especially if it's not impacting their performance in the classroom

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with a friend, and even then I probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I remember, you know what, Let's take a quick break

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and then I'm going to tell you something I remember.

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Speaker 2: I just remember. I know I've I've told you this story.

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just stands out to me as I want you to

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tell me whether you think this teacher was being inappropriate

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or no. Okay, okay, this was second grade Xander, No,

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first grade, first grade Xander. Okay, so you can relate

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first grade teacher Xander I was told was being fidgety.

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Speaker 1: No, But I'm thinking of my kids. It's like I'd

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be talking to a lot of parents if that was

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my that's.

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Speaker 2: The thing, Xander was being fidgety, and he was. And

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Speaker 3: Of those things where I know you probably think that

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a lot of parents are like, oh, my kid's just bored.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're but.

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Speaker 3: But her complaint to me wasn't that Xander was trying

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to like engage his classmates. He was being chatty, which, Hi,

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he's my son, so like he and he was laying

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down sometimes when they're supposed to be like sitting up

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and Xander would like like put his legs out and

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he'd have to be reminded a lot of times by

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the teacher. And uh, she said he was being he

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was getting very distracted. So I said, do you think

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he could be bored? Now, I know that that's kind

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of a thing that parents.

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Speaker 1: Probably say, trigger warning teachers.

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Speaker 3: Right right, exactly right, Yeah, but what happened? So but

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in the in the conversation, I was like, well, what

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exactly are you saying, like because it seemed to be

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a big enough issue for her to take me aside

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to tell me that Xander's fidgety and just easily distracted.

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like code for? She said, what you kind of said?

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if you wanted to ask your pediatrician about that, I

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think that would be like a good idea. Huh, Xander

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does not have ADHD okay at all. So but hey,

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I was like I got upset, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I was like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 3: Like if this is obviously a big enough problem, I

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really thought that Xander was bored.

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Speaker 2: He's very bright. He's he's I'm not trying to be

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one of those parents. He's probably he just has like

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a different kind of brightness that he thinks deeper.

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Speaker 3: He likes to think about things. He's super curious. He

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has like oftentimes a lot of questions. When he's interested,

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he gets everything without He says stuff to me that's

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like way funnier than stuff I could think of to say.

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I was genuinely like, well, maybe because they were a

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lot of the kids were behind, and they were making

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all the kids read at the same level during this time.

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or two weeks later, she's like, oh, by the way, Xander,

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I decided to take my advanced readers and put them

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in a little book club and give them a harder

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book to read and discuss. And she's like, and yeah,

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it's totally fine. Now he's doing great. Yeah, And I

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was like, because because he was bored, right, I didn't

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say that to her, But do you think that was

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well and weird.

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Speaker 2: That she's made it? Tried to make it seem like

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it is really hard to sit on the rug crisscross

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apple sauce, and it's hard to do it for an

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extended period of time, right, And even if you're totally

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fascinated by the curriculum, you know, and a lot of

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it's not that fascinating, right, So I actually this year

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I've started, so there are some kids who just need

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more space, So I give them like a square on

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the edge. And kids have a choice of how they sit,

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so crisscross is one of the choices. Sticks is another

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choice for then you're.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you can see me right now doing sticks?

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Speaker 1: Huh? Sticks? Good sticks. You're being very cooperative, Stephanie, and

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stick and mountain mountain? Is this like on your knees

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but low on your knees? I mean I can't like

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with your feet under you.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, yeah, so those are sitting on your shins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like your tushes on your feet.

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bad for your hips and your knees.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what about what about this kind of mountain? I

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call this double hills?

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Speaker 1: Oh maybe I'll introduce double hills.

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Speaker 3: Double hills is good because you can kind of like

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hold your legs.

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Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it is. That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh my gosh, more choices. I know.

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Speaker 1: How fun do you do?

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Speaker 3: Do you employ the thing with the kids where they

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can choose how they greet you, like handshake, high five,

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or hug.

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end of the day, so they can choose a handshake,

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a high five, or a hug. And then but somebody

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implemented the fist bump today too. Oh no, it doesn't

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start with an ah. Sorry, sorry, Charlie. No, not my idea.

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I won't do a fist bump.

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Speaker 2: You sound like a really good teacher. You have really

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strong boundaries.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I didn't actually do that. You know

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what I did. I gave her a fist pump.

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Speaker 3: How Like, I want to know how different is it

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teaching now than it was like when early teaching, because

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I have seen a lot of like burned out teachers.

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Speaker 2: How do you keep the fire burning?

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Speaker 1: You have a retirement date? Sorry I'm being facetious. I'm

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I don't you just have to kind of do new

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stuff all the time. I don't like completely turn over

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my curriculum every year, but I'm always doing something new

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or creating something new, because I mean, if I'm bored,

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imagine how bored they would be. So I actually did

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a lot of reading this summer. Well, I shouldn't say

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a lot the first two weeks of summer. I like

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took a deep dive into content and science of reading

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and just some stuff that's really building now that a

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lot of districts aren't even talking about. So really changing

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a lot of the way I'm teaching reading. Like high

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frequency words are supposed to be memorized, but actually if

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the kids know the phonics rules, they're all decodable. Oh really, Yeah,

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and a schwa thch is actually decotable. So there are

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just some kids who can't memorize stuff, but they can

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decode things.

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Speaker 3: But then don't you feel like they would be constantly

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sounding out words that you just see all the time.

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Isn't it kind of better to be like, oh, you

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just see the word and you say and eventually.

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Speaker 1: They will, you know, after enough repetition, they won't have

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to sound it out. It's more for those times when

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they come to an unknown word and it's a high

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frequency word. It doesn't do one bit of good if

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they haven't memorized it, But if they have the skills

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to decode it, then they can read anything, right, So

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just more of a focus on that and actually just

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different spelling rules and sound rules.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about my favorite topic. Okay, bad parents and

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bad other teachers. You know, I like to keep things

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negative word.

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Speaker 1: That's how fun in the negative bandwid Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Now, well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: You're You are a teacher, and as long as I've

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known you, I've been impressed by the fact that you

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go above and beyond. Sometimes you'll hear Lynette and I

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complain about a certain teacher. We also, contrary to popular belief,

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brag on teachers that.

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Speaker 2: We have that we love.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm just going to preface this convo with

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saying that Sadie and Xander both love every single one

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of their teachers.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, every single one.

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Speaker 1: And that's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Did I tell you that.

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Speaker 3: Sadie was telling me mom for the first time, Like,

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she said, I really like my English teacher. They're in

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honors English at their school, which Sadie was not able

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to do honors classes at that one traumatizing year of

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middle school. Uh, but she's been doing. We have such

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good teachers and such interesting curriculum. Anyway, she told me

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they're reading Frankenstein.

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Speaker 1: Oh, but she said it's the old.

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Speaker 3: Right, she said, it's the Mary Shelley version, right, And

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she said it's like she was like, it's really really hard.

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It's kind of like, you know, like Shakespeare.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not what you thought it was.

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, but she said that the teacher is making

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it really interesting and like translating it, like taking it

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bit by bit and telling them, you know, helping them

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understand the story. And she's like, it's really interesting. I'm

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actually really enjoying it. I've heard no complaints.

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Speaker 2: Xander told me he likes every single one of his

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teachers a lot.

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Speaker 1: Wow, And that's that's a first, right.

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Speaker 3: That's huge, That is huge. Last year was pretty good. Yeah,

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last year was pretty good too. But you know, coming

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from that middle school year where every teacher sounded like

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a nightmare, mister Zippity dudeah a math teacher. That was

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Like I've always wondered why are some teachers so so

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bad and like seem like they just don't like kids

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and want to humiliate them, and some teachers are so

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so good and go out.

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Speaker 1: Of their way. I feel like a lot of it

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is like a different era, you know, how things have changed,

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I mean from even twenty years ago. And I'm going

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to make a weird comparison, but like thinking about the

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Me Too movement, Okay, there are just certain things that

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twenty years ago were totally normal. Getting groped, you know.

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And I'm not kidding, like, okay, I know, it's just

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I'm going to totally take a detour right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So had my fortieth class reunion on Saturday night, and beforehand,

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a couple of friends and I went to a bar

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just because we didn't want to get dropped in early

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to the reunion. We just want to catch up with

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each other. So we walk into this bar, super crowded

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sports bar, and this dude at the bar's probably seventy

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like lock's eyes with me. When I walk in, I'm

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just wandering around looking for a table. He grabs me

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and like puts his arm around my waist, and the

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whole time he's talking to me, he's like, keep squeezing

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my arm, and are you like my arm is like

471
00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:36,559
that is not where you want to cap it feel

472
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:37,880
actually anywhere in my body.

473
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,839
Speaker 2: It's like, it's just so weird about your arms.

474
00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't like my arms.

475
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: Just let your arms now I have to hide them,

476
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,160
relax and let your arms get groped. Yeah, except the

477
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:53,240
arm groping, but it was.

478
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: That was from a different time, right, Like anyone our

479
00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:00,799
age or younger would never do that to a women, right.

480
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,440
So I think back to my high school experience or

481
00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:08,400
middle school experience, that part of the job, especially in

482
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,519
male teachers, was like to insult kids and tease them

483
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,400
and put them on the spot. And that used to

484
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,720
be like acceptable and funny, and it's like grow a pair,

485
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,799
So it's going to toughen you up. And I feel

486
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,319
like the teachers who are still doing that just haven't evolved,

487
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,920
and they don't think about like what it does to

488
00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:33,680
kids and their feelings and their self esteem because and

489
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,519
some kids can take it, some kids don't care. And

490
00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:38,480
if a teacher had done that to me, I wouldn't

491
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:40,920
have cared. It would have rolled off my back. If

492
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,000
a teacher had done that to my sister, she would

493
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,319
have been in a heap, you know. So I kind

494
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:51,359
of think it's almost generational with teachers. I remember when

495
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,599
I started teaching and being the teacher's lounge, and the

496
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,119
talk was always negative. People would always and we are

497
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,680
talking thirty five years ago, you know, kind of talking

498
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,920
trash about kids and about their parents. And at the

499
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,319
time this was and we were a low income school,

500
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,039
lots of immigrant families, like, obviously they're having a hard time,

501
00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:19,640
and now we're piling on by talking about them and

502
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,119
having this attitude toward them. And I remember just making

503
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,440
this decision that I think it was a couple of

504
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,960
years in when I became a mentor teacher, and they

505
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,039
talked about that you don't talk about other teachers, because

506
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:37,640
I would go and observe teachers. They would say, you

507
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,279
don't talk about anything you're doing with your mentees publicly,

508
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,319
because then people are going to question, well, you're saying

509
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,960
something positive in public, but what else do you say

510
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,200
about me in public? So you just don't talk about

511
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,160
other teachers interest in the lounge. But I sort of

512
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,960
took that nugget and I'm like, I'm never going to

513
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,920
talk negatively about a kid in the lounge again. And

514
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,559
if I need to get advice about a kid, and

515
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,200
if I'm having challenges with a kid, there's a way

516
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,960
to talk about it that doesn't insult the kid, right,

517
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,200
because I feel like there's just there's a vibe that

518
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:20,759
you're giving off to kids. If that's how you're talking

519
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,720
about them, then that's how you're feeling about them, and

520
00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:27,079
it's not fair. So that was just a hif.

521
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: What if you have a kid?

522
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,519
Speaker 3: I mean, and you do have younger kids, so it's

523
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:36,759
a little it's a little hard to say, but maybe

524
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:40,079
some of your coworkers have had kids that are just disasters,

525
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,759
like kids that are maybe a bad seed, kids that have,

526
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,920
you know, antisocial behaviors.

527
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:46,799
Speaker 2: What do you do?

528
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's when we get our school psychologist involved

529
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,720
and we ask the family if they're open to counseling.

530
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,200
I mean, because it's there's always something else going on.

531
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,839
You know, it's never just the kid, right, you know,

532
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,480
if it were, then punishment would work and taking away

533
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:10,920
recess would work. But it's there's more to it. So

534
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,279
there's probably something going on at home. There may be

535
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:17,599
something there may be mental health issues with the kid.

536
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,599
But even then it's not their fault. They need help, right, So,

537
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:25,240
I mean, I'm not trying to paint myself a hero.

538
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,039
I still get frustrated with kids, but my goal is

539
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:32,960
for them to come to school happy and to leave happy,

540
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:38,400
regardless of what behavioral challenges or other challenges they might have.

541
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:43,519
There's always something good about a kid. There's always a strength,

542
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:46,839
there's always I mean, the most valuable thing I do

543
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,599
is I have a list, and during the week I

544
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,720
make sure that I talk privately with every kid for

545
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:59,000
at least three minutes, not about school, just about how's

546
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,160
it going, would you do this weekend? How's your mom?

547
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,039
You know, because that's there's no pressure with that, and

548
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:10,119
it really it That kind of engagement with kids just

549
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,279
changes your connection with your whole class.

550
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,799
Speaker 3: Do they ever tell you anything like really disturbing in

551
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,640
that three minutes?

552
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:23,319
Speaker 1: They haven't I mean sometimes yeah, yeah, they call me Robin.

553
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:29,279
That kid especially, we were really mature. They have said

554
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,799
things that make me think, huh. I one of my

555
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,599
kids last year, I asked if his dad was going

556
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,880
to come to open house, and he's like, my dad

557
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:44,240
never comes to school. My dad would never be at school.

558
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,240
And I thought, well, that's so interesting. And I knew

559
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,720
this situation with the family and that you know, gainfully employed,

560
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,160
but apparently those lines were very delineated in that marriage

561
00:29:55,359 --> 00:30:00,640
and in parenting that that was not the dad's job. Okay, okay,

562
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,079
kind of seemed to accept it, but he was one

563
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:08,880
that had anger issues hinge well, and that mom was

564
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,519
open to counseling, but dad was not for the kid.

565
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:20,720
So yeah, you find out stuff interesting. Yeah, yeah, what about.

566
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,559
Speaker 3: Like dud other teachers? Have you ever dealt with like

567
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,440
and you could think of somebody who's no longer in

568
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,720
the profession, have you ever just felt bad for other

569
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,519
kids because and not even like your child having a

570
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:37,079
bad teacher, but have you ever worked around other teachers

571
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:39,160
that you were like, oh.

572
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: My own son's first grade teacher was that teacher just

573
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,279
really total horder. First of all, so the classroom was

574
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:52,640
always just a disaster. And obviously Jack had autism, but

575
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:54,559
she wanted him not to.

576
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, me too, bitch.

577
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Me about bitch, But I remember and I can't remember. Okay,

578
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,640
so you only net always say this. Okay, I've told

579
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,519
the story before, but I'm gonna told you. I don't

580
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,759
know if I've told this story before on the podcast

581
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:13,880
I've been in a long time. I'm telling it again.

582
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,039
I came to school a day I remember it was

583
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:20,920
the day before Halloween. And Jack was not an easy kid.

584
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:27,920
He was I think probably mostly just unfocused, not necessarily disruptive,

585
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,079
but he probably would get mad and yell out at times.

586
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,960
And so again, he was an autortunities. Yeah right, he

587
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,359
would call it right, bitch, bitch, cocksucker, you sut cocks

588
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,519
in hell, but he has autism.

589
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, excuse me, make some room for my child.

590
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:56,839
Speaker 2: He's bored and you like to people that suck coxswit intelligent.

591
00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:01,160
Should we take a quick break before we fit this story? Okay,

592
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:05,960
quick break on that note. Oh okay, we're back.

593
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he had a few Okay, they were I

594
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,920
mean infractions, let's say. Yeah, and the big threat now

595
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:18,160
was you know Jack Wazinski, You're going back to kindergarten,

596
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:24,200
all right, whatever. I loved his kindergarten teacher and I

597
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,680
was going to be like for a day or whatever.

598
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,039
So I don't know what.

599
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,599
Speaker 2: You're serious though. Yeah, I was going to send him back.

600
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: That was her only like, that was her tool was.

601
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,160
I can't deal with this behavior, so I'm sending you away.

602
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,480
It's like, Wow, your toolbox is empty. So I come

603
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:45,359
in after school.

604
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,559
Speaker 2: Wait, how did you find this out? Did Jack come

605
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:48,319
home and tell you?

606
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,599
Speaker 1: No, they must have called me. I think he got

607
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:54,000
sent to the office. Okay, So I can't and actually

608
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
maybe not because that was during the grade where you

609
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,960
had to go pick them up from the classroom. In

610
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,720
first grade, you actually want to pick them up from

611
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,359
the clas Okay. So I'm getting an earload about this.

612
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,039
Oh uh huh. And I'm standing there and this is

613
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,559
in the presence of the teacher of me. The teacher

614
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,559
gets down in Jack's face, and this is the day

615
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:21,559
before the Halloween carnival. She said, Jack Wazinski, if I

616
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960
had my way, you wouldn't be able to come to

617
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:28,079
school tomorrow. And this is how she's talking to him

618
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,480
in front of me. And I'm standing there and everyone's like,

619
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,240
oh my god, what'd you do to her? And I'm

620
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:40,039
like nothing. I was completely frozen, Like it seems like,

621
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880
you know, I'm an advocate, I'm a badass. I know

622
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680
how to teach. And all I did was tried not

623
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:51,039
to cry. And I stood there and I said, are

624
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:56,200
you suspending him? No, but he's been a real handful

625
00:33:56,319 --> 00:34:00,000
or whatever. I said, Okay, well he'll be at school tomorrow.

626
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,759
And we left and he said, so, can I not

627
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,920
go to the carnival? I said, no, you can go

628
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,519
to the carnival. Fucking bitch. I didn't say that to him.

629
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:13,079
I stayed neutral. I never said a negative word about her.

630
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,440
He actually loved her. But you know, he was the

631
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:18,639
kind of kid where we would spend two hours on

632
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,719
homework and he wouldn't turn it in because like he's

633
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,000
an executive functioning disaster, right, and so how hard would

634
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:31,559
it be for you to ask Jack for his homework?

635
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,280
And then I would go into volunteer and I'm like, Okay,

636
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480
here's the problem, because what I think about a lot

637
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:41,920
in my classroom is flow and pathways, and if they're

638
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,119
going to be turning in something, how do you get it,

639
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,519
So it's not a bottleneck. Right. So they turned in

640
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:51,960
their homework first thing in the morning, and the tray

641
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:56,039
was at the door. So there's this big crowd. It's

642
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:59,079
like a hoo concert, you know, pushing in on each other, right,

643
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,800
and kids dig in through their backpacks, and of course

644
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,360
what does Jack do. He shuts down. He's like, this

645
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,000
is chaotic. I don't know how to navigate this. I'm

646
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,920
going to turn my brain off and go to my seat.

647
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,199
But it's like, why not then just go get his

648
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,599
homework out of his backpack at recess? You know he

649
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:16,920
did it. It was just it was a ridiculous year.

650
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:18,639
Speaker 2: Did you complain to the principle?

651
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, the principle is another story, same principle. One

652
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,960
day I was on campus volunteering and she finds me

653
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:31,239
and says, you know, Jack is have I was in

654
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,199
the classroom today and Jack's having really hard time focusing.

655
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,920
I said, shit, I said, you know he has autism, right,

656
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:43,960
She said yeah, but he's really not, folks. I said,

657
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,519
it's in his iep like focus is one of his

658
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:52,039
biggest issues, and he's bored.

659
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,039
Speaker 2: Now I did say that he shouldn't. He probably was

660
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:56,119
he's very friggin smart.

661
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,679
Speaker 1: He wasn't bored, he was just tuned out. Yeah, I

662
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,800
think it was a chaotic classroom. He couldn't navigate that

663
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,760
just from a sensory perspective, and I think he's shut down.

664
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:11,280
And so there were times so she I would go

665
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,559
in twice a week to volunteer because I was still working.

666
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,360
I was working. I was only working halftime, and so

667
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,760
I would just like do all her clerical stuff. And

668
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,599
then one day she said, ah, we have to learn

669
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,039
borrowing tomorrow in math. I hate teaching math. And I said, oh,

670
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:31,199
I love teaching math. I said, do you want me

671
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,840
to come in and do the lesson? Would you? I'm

672
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,079
like sure. Now, all she could talk about how was

673
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,880
how rowdy this classroom was, and they couldn't They wouldn't

674
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,199
focus on any lesson. I swear to God, Stephanie, you

675
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719
could have heard a pin drop during my lesson because

676
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,960
I was putting numbers on kids to represent the digits

677
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,280
and what happens when it and they got to use

678
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,599
manipulatives and they were up and talking and it's a

679
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:03,440
lady can teach borrowing on the chalkboard. It doesn't work.

680
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,119
So that was a disaster of a year.

681
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: Sadly, hearing these stories just makes me kind of sad

682
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,599
because it takes special teachers to think how do I

683
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:17,480
engage kids? And I feel very lucky that we found

684
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,760
this school, even though it's very, very small, and I

685
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,400
wish my kids were at a big slightly bigger school.

686
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,599
But when I went on the tour of the school,

687
00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,840
I mean, that's what they're doing in high school. Like

688
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,639
they were teaching economics, senior year economics. And I told you,

689
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,920
when I toured the school, these kids' faces were lit

690
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,119
up and they're like, quit, do you want us to

691
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:41,159
tell you what we're working on.

692
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:42,599
Speaker 2: We're doing this economics thing.

693
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: And this person owns a store and this person is

694
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,559
a distributor and this person.

695
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,159
Speaker 2: Makes the product.

696
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,639
Speaker 3: And they had these bags of candy and they were like,

697
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:55,159
and we're figuring out how many and these people are consumers.

698
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:56,960
They're there to buy it and this is the money.

699
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,639
And it was like a whole lesson on like a

700
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,559
real life less on economics. And these kids looked so happy.

701
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: Right where they got to actually do something.

702
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as opposed to I've I've as you know,

703
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,039
my kids have school hopped a little bit, so I

704
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,400
have been to and before Elbe started high school, I

705
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,280
toured a bunch of different high schools and you know,

706
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,000
I watched I went into classrooms where kids just looked

707
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:25,119
so like, so bored. They look like they were about

708
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:27,880
to fall into a coma, you know, just staring at

709
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,159
the teacher just droning and like textbook in front of them.

710
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:33,559
And I was like, I just it's triggering to me

711
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:37,239
from my high school because I could not focus. Yes,

712
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,760
I'm sure I had undiagnosed ADHD. I don't know if

713
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,280
med's would have helped me. I just think I was

714
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:44,840
just bored.

715
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,519
Speaker 1: I didn't care.

716
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,079
Speaker 3: I didn't care, and no teachers really made me care,

717
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,880
except for my one teacher who taught teenagers in the

718
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,000
law and it made everything really fun. And he was

719
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,400
had a sparkly personality. All the kids hated him. They

720
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,559
all hated him, mister Finkelstein. It was quirky and he

721
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,920
wore like a polyester colorful polyester suits, and he was

722
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,639
weird and the drumstick and would hit the drum on

723
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,800
people's desks if they were looking like they're sleepy. And

724
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,440
I was interested in the law. I like true crime

725
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,159
like way before it was hipped like tu crime. I

726
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,480
was like I loved hearing about like how what traffic

727
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:23,159
tickets and like how to avoid and shoplifting and what

728
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:23,840
are the charges.

729
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: It was to teachers, interesting stuff, fascinating to be Also,

730
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,920
I think also teachers have to tell kids that they're

731
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,000
glad they're there, you know.

732
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's if you just need to be happy to

733
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,159
see kids, and if you're not, you shouldn't be teaching anymore.

734
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,519
So I do think. I think about my school and

735
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,840
there's not one teacher that I would label as a

736
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,599
bad apple. Honestly, they're all so into it and if

737
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:57,599
something's going awry, they try to get help and we

738
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:00,400
meet together and we mentor each other. I mean, it

739
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,880
really is a dynamic school.

740
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: But are you just saying that because you think they're

741
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,519
all going to listen to the show.

742
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: No, no one, I did not tell anyone I'm on

743
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,599
this show. No, I'm actually saying that I love them all.

744
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: I feel that good teachers can make such a huge impact.

745
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:23,039
I'm so proud to be your friend and like for

746
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:25,719
what you do. And I know we told this story

747
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,119
before too, but like your students and their parents, remember

748
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,599
you years later, like when you're an impactful teacher. You know,

749
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:38,559
we told this story before, but we were at this

750
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,119
fundraiser years a few years ago, many years ago.

751
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,639
Speaker 2: M hmmm, because pre twenty twenty.

752
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,079
Speaker 1: Right to sixteen, probably eighteen because it was.

753
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 3: Midterms, midterms. Anyway, we were at this Democratic fundraiser and

754
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,880
the woman came over to you starts crying, are you

755
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,039
missus w zin Ski?

756
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,199
Speaker 2: No, she didn't say was in Ski?

757
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: Yes? Sor yeah? Was that long ago? Yeah?

758
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, what is happening here? What's this

759
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,000
lady all emotional.

760
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:08,039
Speaker 1: About Angel's mom? His name was Angel? I mean, how

761
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:12,239
perfect is that? That kid was so sweet? Yeah, that

762
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,960
was fun. And this year I have another kid whose

763
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,519
mom was my student. Oh my gosh in ninety one.

764
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,159
Speaker 2: Does she remember you?

765
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? And I totally remembered her. I remember that

766
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:26,480
class like the back of my hand. Really, yeah, because

767
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:30,719
that was and eighty nine was when we got the

768
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,639
big influx of the Armenian immigrants because of the earthquake.

769
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,559
Oh so all those kids are just you know, they

770
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:43,360
were my first kids, and they were all learning English

771
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,320
and figuring out how to find friends and just the

772
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:51,360
sweetest little girl and she still looks exactly the same, really,

773
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:54,639
and her little boy is so cute, Oh my gosh,

774
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,760
but he like he's all boy. He fidgets, he has

775
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,480
a hard time, but he's funny and he likes learning.

776
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,800
And so fidgeting is not an indicator of a learning disability.

777
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,079
It's an indicator of needing to move your body.

778
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:15,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, I wish that more teachers

779
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:18,400
that I knew of. I mean, because like I said,

780
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,199
the good ones are so good. The bad ones have

781
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,760
been so bad. They just seem to dislike kids and

782
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,880
not see kids as anything but something that gets in

783
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,880
the way of teaching if they at all have any

784
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,800
individuality or if you know, to me, I feel like

785
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,559
a lot of kids want to socialize.

786
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:41,159
Speaker 2: They're at school. A big part of being at school, right,

787
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,199
kids talk about it.

788
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,559
Speaker 3: The most important thing to kids at school is not

789
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:48,800
like learning math, it's making friends, your friends, being with

790
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,119
other kids. And then you get these teachers that like,

791
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,440
you're not allowed to say one word to your neighbor.

792
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: First of all, it's not really your neighbor. I wish

793
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,719
we need to stop saying neighbor, what do.

794
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:00,679
Speaker 1: You want to there next door?

795
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,599
Speaker 2: Your seat mate, your friend, your classmate, whatever.

796
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm just saying, it's like, it's not it's not

797
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,559
so abnormal if they're not doing something against you, Like

798
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:13,440
I understand that it gets disrespectful if they keep chatting

799
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,519
and chatting and chatting and you're trying to teach.

800
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: I say, like during direct instruction, it would be tough.

801
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: But well, then they should allow some time for kids

802
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,280
to work with a partner or chit chat a little

803
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,679
bit or you know, I've just or something. I've known

804
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,800
of teachers Albie had this where if they were done.

805
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:36,039
A lot of teachers nowadays let kids go on their

806
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:37,679
phones when they're not doing anything else.

807
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,159
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

808
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are certain teachers that do not and and

809
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,639
collect phones at the beginning of class. But a lot

810
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:45,320
of teachers have kind of adjusted to.

811
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: Like, listen, if this is our world, rather than pull

812
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,119
out a book because they're not going to do that,

813
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,800
go ahead and pull out your phone on have earbuds

814
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,280
if you want to watch tiktoks or whatever. But there

815
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,280
are certain teachers.

816
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 3: LB has told me that, like, let's say you're doing

817
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,679
a test, this happened, I don't know, and you're all done.

818
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,079
You cannot chat with a friend. You cannot look at

819
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:09,159
your phone, you cannot do anything. You have to sit

820
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,159
and stare into space.

821
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can do more in prison.

822
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,159
Speaker 2: I know.

823
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: That's why. I don't why that's punishment, that's an actual punishment.

824
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:25,880
That's so weird. Yeah yeah, I mean I hopefully they're

825
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,760
close to retirement. You know, I don't know why.

826
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,039
Speaker 3: All I want to talk to you about is teacher teaching. Right,

827
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,480
there's more to us and our friendship. I just went

828
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:38,119
to see Queen.

829
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so fun. I had such a sore

830
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,840
throat the next day because I was screaming and singing

831
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,320
every song, especially k Tell.

832
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,159
Speaker 2: K Tell was amazing.

833
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we made friends with that lady who never

834
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,119
contacted either of us. That's all about getting us a

835
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:57,480
T shirt. She was friends with the.

836
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,519
Speaker 1: Band, yeah supposedly, yeah, like.

837
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:02,199
Speaker 3: Good friends with him. And she was like, listen, I'm

838
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,960
gonna hook you up. They have they didn't have their

839
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,079
own merch table, but she was gonna hook us up

840
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:09,760
with a Raglan shirt. And we were so excited. And

841
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,119
she took our email addresses and no liar blew us off.

842
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

843
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 3: See, if we ever go see your friends again, we

844
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,360
will so we will and we.

845
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: Will, and we went with Lyle yle Krack.

846
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:25,079
Speaker 1: Oh, they had so much fun. He's the sweetest, Yeah

847
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,400
he is. And he totally talked more at this time,

848
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:29,880
did he. Yeah? Remember in the drive home he was

849
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,760
actually chiming in and kind of having fun, like, yeah,

850
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,719
he seems like he's coming out of his shove a

851
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,000
little bit, a little bit.

852
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:37,679
Speaker 3: I had to ask Xander a couple of times. I

853
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,159
was like, is Lyle having fun? And Xander's like, yes,

854
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,800
I promise, Like, well, he needs to tell his face.

855
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: Well, his face missed the memo.

856
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,679
Speaker 3: He just always looks very intense, like he's really like

857
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,000
but apparently he was. He went home and told his

858
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:59,039
mom like how much fun he had and he'd never

859
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:00,400
been to a real concert.

860
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because it was the first time Xander had

861
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:06,840
been to like an actual venue, outdoor venue, real venue. Yeah,

862
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,519
that was fun.

863
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,039
Speaker 2: And you took we took them to their first music show.

864
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember we ran in. We ran into one

865
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,559
of my students at Queen.

866
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's what I was thinking.

867
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: It was so funny.

868
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:21,159
Speaker 2: It was excited to see you.

869
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,519
Speaker 1: It's my student kid. Yeah yeah, yeah, and I have

870
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:29,960
his little brother this year, so we got some generations going.

871
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: That's so cute. That was cute, Caylin. Do you feel

872
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,079
like you get stuff out of hearing teacher talk now

873
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:35,840
that you have kids?

874
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they need to be a

875
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,960
little bit older still. I think they're just still a

876
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,599
little too young for you to care about teacher chat,

877
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,159
for you to give a ship.

878
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,519
Speaker 3: I just think it's wow the fact that you had

879
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:56,800
that terrible teacher but didn't complain to anybody, because you

880
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,159
know me.

881
00:46:58,039 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: What can I do?

882
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: You know?

883
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: There were of one and my kid moved out of

884
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,039
a classroom with somebody who's being mean.

885
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,679
Speaker 1: Well, here's here's the other side of the story. Jack

886
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,519
loved her, right, he thought she was great.

887
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,679
Speaker 3: But I can think of another person from Jack's life

888
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,679
that he loved.

889
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 2: It was pretty mean.

890
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:17,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

891
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: Me.

892
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: You know who I'm talking about, do I? Yeah?

893
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:27,079
Speaker 3: It was another big, big interest of Jack's, something he

894
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:27,880
loves to do.

895
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,519
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, thank god. Howm I'm not remembering this.

896
00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:34,519
Speaker 2: Be in shows?

897
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, and.

898
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: Was very tolerant of somebody who could be pretty mean.

899
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was different though, I and I think people

900
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,440
who have kids in theater would vouch for me that

901
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,840
those directors are as hard on them as they are

902
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,679
loving on them. I think it's a delicate balance. And

903
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:03,639
uh so I cut some slack there, especially because it's

904
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:07,400
a relationship that he really needed, you know, there was

905
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:11,119
he needed that, So I cut slack.

906
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm sensitive to like people don't need to be mean

907
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,880
to kids. On the other hand, let's talk about asshole parents. Okay,

908
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:23,760
I'm sure I have been one obviously, Yeah, But I

909
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,039
mean I really try, and I've been doing better. I

910
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:32,039
really do try to like check my entitlement, you know. Huh, I.

911
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: Can tend to.

912
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 3: I think this has to do with my upbringing. Get

913
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,639
very defensive of my kids, of myself.

914
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: They need to be nicer, you know.

915
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,039
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to see, like, oh, maybe my

916
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:49,280
kid was doing something wrong. But I really do try

917
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,360
to take a beat and understand from the teacher's perspective,

918
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,800
Like I can't expect every freaking teacher to be Mary

919
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,960
Poppins and like loving on my kids and making everything better.

920
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:03,199
Speaker 2: It's fascinating. I get that.

921
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: So I do have to take a step back sometimes,

922
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,199
I know I do. With orthodonics offices and blah blah, blah,

923
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:15,159
I am learning, I'm trying. Some of it is exaggerated

924
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,360
for for humor, But some parents, I do think. I

925
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,360
think I at least have the ability to look back

926
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,400
on when I've been a little too hasty or impulsive

927
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,239
or gotten upset and check myself.

928
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:29,599
Speaker 1: M hm.

929
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: But are their parents? You know? What do you do

930
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,360
about the really entitled parent like me? Times?

931
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,079
Speaker 1: Ten? I think ten, I have a really strong personality

932
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:48,800
and a big voice, so parents rarely mistreat me. And

933
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,920
if they are upset about something, I do the same

934
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,920
thing you do. I take a beat and try to

935
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,440
figure out where they're coming from, because it's their kid,

936
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,559
so clearly they think something's going on or they have

937
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:03,320
an issue that needs to be resolved. So there have

938
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,639
only been I mean, I can only think of two

939
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,440
offhand that were really inappropriate. And it wasn't even to me.

940
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,800
It was with other parents and the parent was approaching

941
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:23,519
other parents about their kids behavior. Oh yeah, and so

942
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,599
that's when I stepped in and they didn't they apologize.

943
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,960
They it was a fother Was.

944
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,519
Speaker 2: The other kid's behavior pretty bad?

945
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:38,159
Speaker 1: No, it was typical and his kid was participating in

946
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:38,719
it too.

947
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,639
Speaker 2: Like bullying.

948
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,159
Speaker 1: It wasn't bullying, it was.

949
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: Are we too quick to say the word?

950
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,039
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I am so tired of saying the word bullying

951
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:56,000
because and bullying is targeted repetitive towards someone who's at

952
00:50:56,039 --> 00:51:00,880
a lower step than you, for lack of a better word, So,

953
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,920
someone pushing a kid once on the playground isn't bullying.

954
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:10,599
It's being physical and probably needing a time out. If

955
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:13,079
that keeps happening over and over again, if they keep

956
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:16,880
finding that same kid to do it, then it's bullying.

957
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:22,079
But it has to be targeted and repetitive. So yeah,

958
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:27,239
a lot of kind of typical behavior is labeled bullying.

959
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,880
So when a parent emails me about a bullying situation,

960
00:51:32,639 --> 00:51:36,280
I'll generally ignore the word bullying and just address the behavior.

961
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,639
So it's because I'm not going to be able to

962
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,480
educate them on what the word actually means or they

963
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:47,519
use it for any kind of aggression toward their kid.

964
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you get some Karens right, for lack of

965
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,360
a better Okay, so the word.

966
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a total Karen mom. It's probably ten

967
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:05,079
years go when I was still partner teaching, and so

968
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:10,360
this mom had daughters who were driving and a little

969
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,599
girl in my class, and she was always on time

970
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:17,199
to pick her up. And one day she was in

971
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,079
the office waiting and waiting, and I was getting worried

972
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:23,599
because this was really unusual. So I tried calling the

973
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:26,280
mom's phone and the dad's phone. I didn't know that

974
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,199
the sister was the one who would be coming and

975
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,840
picking her up. And when she finally got there, I said, oh,

976
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,519
I was really getting worried because your mom's on time.

977
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:40,679
Usually on time. She said, oh, there was traffic on

978
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,719
Gleneille Boulevard. I said, Okay, in the future, if you

979
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,480
have a way to call me safely, please call the

980
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,440
school and let them know. Okay. The next day I

981
00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:57,079
got a two page letter tearing me a new one

982
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,800
for attacking her daughter in the office talking to her

983
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,880
like a kindergartener. And I was there must have been

984
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,840
ten witnesses to that conversation where I talked to her

985
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:13,159
exactly like I just talked to you. And I almost

986
00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:14,639
had to laugh at it, because it's like, I don't

987
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:19,440
talk to kindergarteners like kindergarteners, So why would I. Sweetie,

988
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:23,239
you should have called if you're gonna be me, you know.

989
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,440
It was the weirdest sort of strikeout against me, and

990
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:29,599
I just looked at my partner and teacher and I said,

991
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:33,159
I'm never dealing with that mom again. She's yours. You're

992
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:35,280
going to do the conferences, You're gonna sort of like

993
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,840
I got it. And that was the same year that

994
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,400
the dad was confronting other parents and she's like and

995
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,800
he's yours. It's like, okay, fair enough.

996
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's hilarious.

997
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: So I can't pass people off now, so I have

998
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,519
to be really diplomatic.

999
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: Okay, well, this reminds me. Will you remind me for

1000
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,119
Friday show?

1001
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: I have a something that I've been really interested in

1002
00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:01,719
that I've been watching. Just say it's something you've been watching. Okay, Caylin,

1003
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,599
are you sick.

1004
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: A little bit? Oh no, you have COVID. No, I

1005
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,000
don't know what it is.

1006
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,639
Speaker 3: Oh boy, all right, listen, this has been so fun.

1007
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,039
I have you for Friday because Lynette is out for

1008
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,360
the week, so we have we have more time to

1009
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,239
tell more stories. But before we go, let's do a

1010
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,400
shout out for Kelly from Wilma and Frida.

1011
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:23,079
Speaker 1: You've been Oh it was so good.

1012
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,199
Speaker 2: You had the salmon too, I did. It was amazing, right,

1013
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,119
with that this sauce and over the common oh so

1014
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:30,599
so good.

1015
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,159
Speaker 3: So they make the best brunch. But obviously they also

1016
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,840
have like dinner food when they do little shows, and

1017
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:42,000
they have cilantro julapena wings and yes the seven spiced

1018
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:43,280
sugar and crusted salmon.

1019
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: Anyway, go there.

1020
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: Palm springs were palm desert Willman Frida also basic. Becky

1021
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:50,599
can hook you up with a T shirt or a

1022
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:54,400
mug or a mouse pad. I have to get another

1023
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,360
Scott BeO mousepad because mine is wearing his worn out

1024
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,679
Scott BeO blocked me so lucky.

1025
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: Or I need to stop using mouse pads.

1026
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: I wonder the other like my brain is trying to

1027
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:06,679
process how you use a mass mouse?

1028
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 2: You still use a mouse? Yeah? Do you use a mouse? Kaylan?

1029
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: My desktop?

1030
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1031
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Wade use as a mouse, but it's a

1032
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:16,599
stationary kind Have you seen this and it doesn't hurt

1033
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:17,079
your wrist?

1034
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. I don't care about that.

1035
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: It's so good.

1036
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, thank you, Kaylean.

1037
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:24,679
Speaker 1: You're a pair. Now, don't I put

1038
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: Up that angle