Speaker 1: Good Monday morning, and welcome in.
Speaker 2: It is Kentucky and this morning news on news Radio
Speaker 2: eight forty w h as Nick Coffee got the full
Speaker 2: crew here in the house today, Scott Fitzgerald alongside John
Speaker 2: Olden doing his thing producing without him, without him putting,
Speaker 2: hitting important buttons and there.
Speaker 1: None of this is possible. So we're very happy that
Speaker 1: he's here.
Speaker 2: We've got John Shannon as well, and we'll take you
Speaker 2: up until nine o'clock recapping a big weekend and a
Speaker 2: lot to get to. Certainly here as we as we
Speaker 2: get the get the party started weekend, Fellas, how was
Speaker 2: it good weekend? I mean they never last long enough?
Speaker 1: Right? Well, then we have a short work week this week,
Speaker 1: that's true. It's July holiday.
Speaker 2: Is that the first time I started the week with
Speaker 2: a corny, very you know, low hanging fruit.
Speaker 1: Type of joked week. Weekend's not lasting long enough again.
Speaker 3: You know what's nice is we have we have Friday
Speaker 3: off well, and we have Saturday off with Joe Elliott
Speaker 3: because I told.
Speaker 1: Them I'm out on Thursday as well, and I'm out
Speaker 1: on next Monday.
Speaker 3: Look at this, see, and that's why I told the boss,
Speaker 3: I said, are we having to show Saturday because I'm
Speaker 3: probably gonna take that off.
Speaker 2: I'm no, yeah, get that would be a tough workday
Speaker 2: to not request off, just given how weird it would
Speaker 2: be to have the fourth of July off and then coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I totally get it.
Speaker 2: How about that, I'm mentioning that weekends never last long enough.
Speaker 2: And then we've realized that we all have some added
Speaker 2: time off because we're going to be celebrating fourth of July.
Speaker 1: So that's a good way to get things started. Absolute
Speaker 1: good stuff, all right.
Speaker 2: So this is probably going to be the story that
Speaker 2: you hear about more than any story today here locally,
Speaker 2: and that is the passing of legendary Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: I mean, a guy who I could give you the
Speaker 2: rundown of all of what he accomplished in horse racing,
Speaker 2: but that would take a lot of time.
Speaker 1: But it's d WAYE.
Speaker 2: Lucas who passed away at the age of eighty nine
Speaker 2: on Saturday four time, Kentucky Derby Winter. They will release
Speaker 2: this news yesterday morning from Churchill Downs. I believe their
Speaker 2: PR team was the first to kind of get it
Speaker 2: out there, so obviously somebody that has as much accomplishments
Speaker 2: as nearly anybody you'll find in the sport.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had twenty Breeders' Cup victories.
Speaker 2: In total, he had let's see, fourteen wins when it
Speaker 2: comes to the Triple Crown Races, the Preakness, Belmont Stakes,
Speaker 2: and the Derby. So a guy again when it comes
Speaker 2: to his accomplishments, I'm sure all of you are well
Speaker 2: aware of just how accomplished he was. But as someone
Speaker 2: who has before getting this opportunity, anytime I spent in
Speaker 2: front of a microphone and broadcasting has always just been
Speaker 2: on the sports side. So I didn't get a chance
Speaker 2: to meet the legend. But I can tell you this,
Speaker 2: if I had, I would have considered it an absolute privilege.
Speaker 2: And as mentioned, you'll hear a lot about his professional accomplishments,
Speaker 2: which clearly made in one of the best, one of
Speaker 2: the most iconic trainers in horse racing history. In fact,
Speaker 2: you'll probably learn some things throughout these next couple of
Speaker 2: days that makes you realize he was even more successful
Speaker 2: than maybe you knew.
Speaker 1: But as someone who's never been.
Speaker 2: A big horse racing fan, which that's putting it lightly,
Speaker 2: I just never really get into the sport a whole
Speaker 2: lot other than the Derby, and I have no shame
Speaker 2: in admitting that.
Speaker 1: It's just it'd be a life I said otherwise.
Speaker 2: But what always stood out to me in my time
Speaker 2: covering sports mediing, of course the Derby and horse racing
Speaker 2: comes along with that to an extent, he's I mean,
Speaker 2: this is somebody that I never heard anyone say anything
Speaker 2: that wasn't positive about him, And I mean those who
Speaker 2: did get a chance to cover him, that got a
Speaker 2: chance to know him a little bit. And I think
Speaker 2: you'll likely hear praise about him as an individual and
Speaker 2: how he treated a lot of people long before you'll
Speaker 2: hear somebody mention, oh, by the way, he's one of
Speaker 2: the best to ever do it.
Speaker 1: In horse racing too.
Speaker 2: So I think that's a result of many things, but
Speaker 2: mostly it's how he treated people. And for a guy
Speaker 2: who did it as long as he did, I would
Speaker 2: say that he was pretty consistent when it comes to
Speaker 2: just having an impact on people, seemingly in a positive way.
Speaker 2: So again, I did not get a chance to ever
Speaker 2: meet him, but clearly, if you live in this town,
Speaker 2: even if you don't pay attention to horse racing at all,
Speaker 2: you know who de Wayne Lucas is and he passed
Speaker 2: away on Saturday evening at the age of eighty nine.
Speaker 2: And Scott, you're more versed in the sport of horse
Speaker 2: racing than I am, and you could maybe know a
Speaker 2: little bit, and that means you know more than me.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to just trainers that just had
Speaker 2: had such long careers and just throughout many different eras
Speaker 2: and generations of the sport, they were always on top
Speaker 2: or near the top. I mean, it's de Wayne Lucas,
Speaker 2: Bob Bafford, and there's others, but he's certainly in that group.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is, Nick And I think to your point,
Speaker 3: you know, d Wayne Lucas saw his success in the
Speaker 3: late eighties the nineties, whereas we had Bafford, the Steve
Speaker 3: s Mussen's, et cetera going through here. But I think
Speaker 3: you summarized it best in what you were talking about.
Speaker 3: He was well liked, affectionately known as the Coach. I
Speaker 3: was able to see him while we were on the backside,
Speaker 3: and as he's often talked about, he's out early in
Speaker 3: the morning, you know, even before the sun comes up,
Speaker 3: and you can't miss his presence. When he's on the track.
Speaker 3: You know exactly who he is when you see him.
Speaker 3: I saw him, and for myself coming into the horse
Speaker 3: racing mix sort of after that apex of his career,
Speaker 3: I didn't know him. He still was larger than life.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you used the word present, because that's that again,
Speaker 2: without having any direct interaction with him at all, he
Speaker 2: is someone that's certainly with just what he accomplished, and
Speaker 2: I guess just the impact that he had on people. Certainly,
Speaker 2: I think when you have a presence about yourself that
Speaker 2: stands out more so than others, you probably have a
Speaker 2: lot of charisma. And yeah, rest in peace to de
Speaker 2: Wayne Lucas and thoughts and prayers to his family and
Speaker 2: the whole horse racing family as a legend passed away
Speaker 2: this weekend. All right, we've got news and actually we've
Speaker 2: got tragicking weather coming your way. We'll get to sports
Speaker 2: coming up in about fifteen minutes. Roy O'Neil gonna join
Speaker 2: us at five forty five. A lot to get to
Speaker 2: nationally right now. I'd say the biggest story is what
Speaker 2: took place in Idaho over the weekend, which in fact
Speaker 2: I say over the weekend, it was last night. It
Speaker 2: was actually late last night as firefooter, I think it
Speaker 2: was two firefighters, actually more than that, but we now
Speaker 2: have two people dead and it's because a firefight. Multiple
Speaker 2: firefighters were ambushed while responding to a fire and it seems.
Speaker 1: As if it was a set up, which we'll.
Speaker 2: Get the latest on that as at least as best
Speaker 2: we can for rio'eil coming up here at about five
Speaker 2: forty five. It is Kentucky his morning news on news
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Speaker 2: getting getting acclimated with the schedule that is still on
Speaker 2: the new side.
Speaker 1: It's new ish, but this is this is week four.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, in a week five of me here in
Speaker 2: this in this spot getting us started here at eight
Speaker 2: forty whas with Kentucky and this morning news, so I'm
Speaker 2: in him a fifth week and they're still letting me
Speaker 2: do it, which is great. But that song is true.
Speaker 2: It is Monday, and I was expecting to really feel
Speaker 2: it this morning, but.
Speaker 1: I didn't as much.
Speaker 2: So I'm riding some momentum here, some energy because I
Speaker 2: just assume, well, Monday is going to be tough because
Speaker 2: Mondays usually are. But you know, three o'clock in the
Speaker 2: morning being when your Monday starts is something that I
Speaker 2: just don't think will ever be easy. But when you,
Speaker 2: I guess, prepare for the worst and hope for the
Speaker 2: best and end up, you know, not having a rough
Speaker 2: Monday morning, I'm gonna I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna celebrate that. It is five seventeen.
Speaker 2: In fact, five eighteen now here at Kentucky is news
Speaker 2: on News Radio eight forty whas. We'll have our first
Speaker 2: sports update coming up in about seven minutes. But real quick,
Speaker 2: there is a flash flood warning that's been issued north
Speaker 2: of us here in southern Indiana. I believe it's still
Speaker 2: considered southern Indiana, but it's it's not you know, we're
Speaker 2: not talking Jeffersonville, Clarksville, that area.
Speaker 1: We're talking north of that.
Speaker 2: So if flash flood warning has been issued for Brown County,
Speaker 2: Jackson County, and Lawrence County as well as Monroe County
Speaker 2: in Indiana until between six thirty I'm sorry, no between,
Speaker 2: it's seven am. So the the warning is until seven o'clock.
Speaker 2: So again that tells me that it's our as we
Speaker 2: as we stand as we speak right now at five
Speaker 2: eighteen am, they've already had a lot of rain coming
Speaker 2: down I would assume or maybe it's on the way
Speaker 2: because here where we are in downtown Louisville, it hasn't
Speaker 2: happened just yet, but again, some storms expected this morning.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a wet and stormy start to the day,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like we'll have the same thing later
Speaker 2: today as the day comes to an end. But counties
Speaker 2: those county mentioned as far as just the communities, the
Speaker 2: town's in that area. Of course, Nashville that's Brown County.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks here in loulll are
Speaker 2: familiar with Brown County. But in Jackson County that is Brownstown.
Speaker 2: You've got Seymour, Corrouthersville, and then in Monroe County that's Bloomington.
Speaker 2: So that's certainly north of us.
Speaker 1: So not in the direct area here where we are today.
Speaker 2: But obviously, when you're on a station like news radio
Speaker 2: eight forty, whas your region a lot more people than
Speaker 2: just the Louisville metro area. So if you are in
Speaker 2: those areas, be advised.
Speaker 1: There is a.
Speaker 2: Flash flood warning. In fact, now it's been it looks
Speaker 2: like it's been extended, so Jackson County until eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: Lawrence County, Indiana until eight fifteen. All right, so last
Speaker 2: week on Friday, right, and we end this show at
Speaker 2: nine am. So a lot of things developed throughout the day,
Speaker 2: and I'm still trying to get comfortable as far as Okay,
Speaker 2: this is a news talk show. If things come up
Speaker 2: on a Friday and then you get to Monday, how
Speaker 2: newsy is that? Well, I think the Crystal Rogers case
Speaker 2: is going to be something that that the last I
Speaker 2: think the expectation is it's going to be a ten
Speaker 2: day trial. But there was some some testimony during during
Speaker 2: the trial on Friday afternoon that I think it didn't
Speaker 2: change the case as far as any any physical evidence,
Speaker 2: but the testimony from one of the lawson's ex girlfriends,
Speaker 2: I mean it to me, I think it's as far
Speaker 2: as testimony only, it's as damaging as anything for the
Speaker 2: defense thus far. But what I keep coming back to is, yes,
Speaker 2: this is I mean, this is the scenario where those
Speaker 2: people being charged and those that haven't been charged but
Speaker 2: are listed as unindicted code conspirators, Brooks House, brother Nick,
Speaker 2: his mother, Rosemary, like all the all the all the
Speaker 2: key figures in this whole thing. Allegedly, the scenario where
Speaker 2: they weren't involved. I just think is insanely unlikely, almost
Speaker 2: just impossible to really believe. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: the prosecution, every bit of evidence they have is circumstantial.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not you know, it's not any direct proof.
Speaker 2: And even though the testimony from Friday I think was damaging,
Speaker 2: let's be honest. That's that's that's one person's word. And
Speaker 2: I wouldn't, you know, I would assume that anybody who
Speaker 2: is under oath would never lie, but maybe not naive.
Speaker 2: And again to hope you can sense sarcasm. All right,
Speaker 2: we've got sports coming your way with Scott Fitzgerald. But
Speaker 2: first another check of traffic and weather right here on
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Speaker 2: So on Friday afternoon, there was testimony as the first
Speaker 2: week at the Crystal Rogers trial was wrapping up. And
Speaker 2: it would probably be a stretch to say that the
Speaker 2: testimony completely changed the case, but I think it was,
Speaker 2: at least from my perspective, the most damaging testimony when
Speaker 2: it comes to the defense. So there was a neighbor
Speaker 2: who provided testimony that Brooks House Brooks Howke's family suspiciously
Speaker 2: moved bags from their trunks into his basement days after
Speaker 2: Crystal Rogers vanished, and I guess just the prosecution. Other
Speaker 2: than that testimony from the neighbor, Uh, there was another Yeah,
Speaker 2: this was a former I think it was a former
Speaker 2: girlfriend who was dating Lawson who's also being is also
Speaker 2: part of this this trial as well, and she claims
Speaker 2: that she heard the father son duo of Lawson discussing
Speaker 2: moving a body on the Hawk farm using as skid steer.
Speaker 2: So again that's again that's that's testimony. It's not proof,
Speaker 2: but that's somebody that clearly it'd be a tough thing
Speaker 2: to to deny that this, that this wasn't somebody that
Speaker 2: was close to the Lawsons. See, I prosecutes alleged that
Speaker 2: How killed Rogers at the family farm on July third,
Speaker 2: and cell data contradicts the alibi that he that he claims,
Speaker 2: so play it plays. The cell data puts him at
Speaker 2: the farm until midnight, with a stop at a campground,
Speaker 2: not at home as he initially claimed. And I guess
Speaker 2: is still claiming. But but the witness here, uh is
Speaker 2: Heather Snelling And again she uh. She testified that she
Speaker 2: overheard Joseph and Stephen Lawson discussing moving a body on
Speaker 2: the Hauk farm using its using a skid steer. She
Speaker 2: claims that they were at the loss in home and
Speaker 2: she was in another room and overheard that that conversation. Also,
Speaker 2: the neighbor Mary Maddingly, she claims that she saw How's
Speaker 2: mother rose Mary and brother Nick. Again, both of those
Speaker 2: the brother former law enforcement officer Nick and then the
Speaker 2: mother Rosemary. They're both considered unindicted co conspirators. But the
Speaker 2: neighbors says that she saw both Rosemary and Nick at
Speaker 2: Hawke's home post disappearance, moving cars to back trucks towards
Speaker 2: the basement, and there was also she saw something that
Speaker 2: looked as if and I don't know, I don't have
Speaker 2: the exact testimony as far as what was said word
Speaker 2: for word, but she saw them carrying white bags inside
Speaker 2: and again using vehicles to I suppose, hide what they
Speaker 2: were doing from people that would be able to see it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's that's the latest as far.
Speaker 2: As the the the prosecutions witnesses, and again that's not
Speaker 2: a good look but also far from any direct proof.
Speaker 2: And the the counter arguments from from Hauke's team as lawyers,
Speaker 2: they argue that again this just this, this whole case
Speaker 2: is circumstantial and the media presence has been a big
Speaker 2: factor to why people just I guess again I'm paraphrasing
Speaker 2: here as far as with defenses, but they're claiming that
Speaker 2: the behavior, as far as how they've acted towards law
Speaker 2: enforcement was all because they just they felt as if,
Speaker 2: because the media pressure that's out there, that even if
Speaker 2: they are innocent, everybody just wants them to go down
Speaker 2: for the crime. But they claim that the cell phone
Speaker 2: pings reflect Wi Fi connections, not a campground stop. And
Speaker 2: they also questioned the witness, the Heather Snell, and they
Speaker 2: question why she delayed in sharing this information. And the
Speaker 2: attorney for laws and not how it emphasizes his minimal
Speaker 2: mentions throughout this whole thing, basically saying, you know, distancing
Speaker 2: him from the actions of the other lawson and of
Speaker 2: course Brooks Howkes. So again it's nobody homicide, and the
Speaker 2: defense is going to mention that endlessly, as they probably should.
Speaker 2: But as far as getting a conviction knowing that it's
Speaker 2: all circumstantial, I mean, that's that's happened certainly when it
Speaker 2: comes to trials, but.
Speaker 1: It's always led me to believe, well.
Speaker 2: You know, if I was on the jury, I kind
Speaker 2: of think I know which side I'd be be laning.
Speaker 1: But that's just me. All Right. We've got roy o'eil
Speaker 1: set to join us coming up here.
Speaker 2: After we get our next update on traffic and weather,
Speaker 2: we'll get the latest on this suspected shooter who allegedly
Speaker 2: killed two Idaho firefighters and injured at least one. That
Speaker 2: suspected shooter has been found dead with the weapon in Idaho.
Speaker 2: But as far as what we know about who it
Speaker 2: is and the entire situation. We'll see what we can
Speaker 2: get from Roory O'Neil of NBC News coming up here
Speaker 2: just a moment right here our news radio eight forty whs.
Speaker 2: It is five forty five here at Kentucky and it's
Speaker 2: morning news on news radio eight forty whas. Let's bring
Speaker 2: in Rory o'eal of it in BC News. So, we
Speaker 2: had an active shooting situation in Idaho yesterday firefighters ambushed.
Speaker 2: I believe two have have been pronounced dead. One was
Speaker 2: in surgery last saw. And also the latest is that
Speaker 2: the perpetrator here has been found also dead. What else
Speaker 2: can you tell us about this developing story, Rory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and good morning. The other factor is whether or
Speaker 4: not this shooter whose body was found near the scene
Speaker 4: of the fire, was the only person involved in this.
Speaker 4: When the sheriff was first talking about it, they suspected
Speaker 4: there may be multiple gunmen, but at an update.
Speaker 1: He gave last night, they now believe it.
Speaker 4: Was just the lone shooter who was responsible. That that
Speaker 4: person set the fire to draw out the firefighters in Cordelaine, Iowa, Idaho,
Speaker 4: and then started firing on the firefighters who responded to
Speaker 4: the scene. As you said, two were killed. A third
Speaker 4: it was in surgery at last report and has been
Speaker 4: listed as being now in stable condition. But now the
Speaker 4: question is who was this guy, what was he doing,
Speaker 4: and why did he do it?
Speaker 2: If we'll ever know, yes, and I would imagine we'll
Speaker 2: find out the identity of this perpetrator soon. And as
Speaker 2: far as right motive and whatnot, I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: this is I can't imagine a first responder on a
Speaker 2: way on your way to do, you know, what is
Speaker 2: something that is very important and serve and protect, and
Speaker 2: then you become the victim.
Speaker 4: Just awful, right, and especially in these fire situations. The
Speaker 4: sheriff said they really didn't have time to secure the
Speaker 4: crime scene to do more of an investigation because the
Speaker 4: brush fire he had set was approaching, so they sort
Speaker 4: of had to scoop up the evidence that at the
Speaker 4: scene and get out of there because this obviously complicated
Speaker 4: the response to fight the fire.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: They also said that they were able to track this
Speaker 4: guy down because the suspect's cell phone. Apparently they could
Speaker 4: track the fact that there was a phone in the
Speaker 4: area that wasn't moving for hours, and that led them
Speaker 4: to say, hey, wait a minute, now, that doesn't seem
Speaker 4: to make sense and brought them to the scene.
Speaker 2: So do we know I mean, I assume, well, I
Speaker 2: don't know, the fire itself would obviously get attention, that
Speaker 2: would that would get the fire team there to to
Speaker 2: put it out and do what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: But do we know if that if that phone that
Speaker 2: they found that the is that the phone that called
Speaker 2: nine one one I guess to report.
Speaker 4: Ith, Yeah, I don't. We don't know that yet, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think they've gotten into that kind
Speaker 4: of detail yet. But now that they have the phone, uh,
Speaker 4: and they certainly know who the suspect is. At this point,
Speaker 4: a lot of this is going to come together very quickly, very.
Speaker 2: Very big story, of course, and we'll keep you updated
Speaker 2: as best we can as far as what we what
Speaker 2: we find out about the alleged perpetrator here, all right. Also, Rory,
Speaker 2: I wanted to get your thoughts on Henry. It stands
Speaker 2: for high earner, not rich yet. Why are those that
Speaker 2: are making the big salaries still struggling financially?
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that?
Speaker 4: Well? A couple of new reports both brought up this
Speaker 4: Henry term in the past few days. As you said,
Speaker 4: high earner, not rich yet, emphasis on the why for yet.
Speaker 4: But this is about millennials really sort of hitting their
Speaker 4: stride when it comes to earning potential, and what they're
Speaker 4: finding is they maybe making six figures, but they're barely
Speaker 4: making ends meet either the cost of childcare, which was
Speaker 4: cited multiple times in these reports, the cost of saving
Speaker 4: for college. Oftentimes, these Henry members are in they're in
Speaker 4: the squeeze, in the sandwich. They've got to take care
Speaker 4: of parents and children, and they're finding that despite making
Speaker 4: high incomes, they still aren't getting ahead yet.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on the why. That's got to be
Speaker 2: the emphasis. The yet makes it seem as if we'll
Speaker 2: get to a point where this is not a thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure of it right now. But Rory
Speaker 2: is always thank you for the time, and enjoy the
Speaker 2: rest of your day and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 4: Thanks Nick.
Speaker 2: That's Roy and Neil NBC News. Yes, when it comes
Speaker 2: to health, I'm sorry childcare being referenced in these studies.
Speaker 2: I can attest to that, and I know everybody's childcare
Speaker 2: situations different and I'm sure there are those that pay
Speaker 2: more than what my family's paid for childcare for both
Speaker 2: of our kids. But I know that now my son
Speaker 2: is starting kindergarten this year, I mean it is to
Speaker 2: say that it's going to be I mean, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a very noticeable thing financially, just because that's an
Speaker 2: expense that's been there for so long with us and
Speaker 2: now it won't be there. And I'm very excited stuff
Speaker 2: to find, you know, people to take care of our
Speaker 2: kids from time to time, but just the weekly expense
Speaker 2: of having a child in childcare. In fact, we had
Speaker 2: two kids in childcare at the same time for a while,
Speaker 2: so looking forward to that, I can tell you that
Speaker 2: for sure. All right, let's get an update on traffic
Speaker 2: and weather. Also we will get another update on sports
Speaker 2: with Scott Fitshgeriald right here on news Radio eight forty
Speaker 2: whas