WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:01.720 Good Monday morning, and welcome in. 2 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:03.680 It is Kentucky and this morning news on news Radio 3 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:07.200 eight forty w h as Nick Coffee got the full 4 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:10.000 crew here in the house today, Scott Fitzgerald alongside John 5 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.560 Olden doing his thing producing without him, without him putting, 6 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:15.480 hitting important buttons and there. 7 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:17.559 None of this is possible. So we're very happy that 8 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:17.920 he's here. 9 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:20.239 We've got John Shannon as well, and we'll take you 10 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:24.640 up until nine o'clock recapping a big weekend and a 11 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:27.039 lot to get to. Certainly here as we as we 12 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:29.679 get the get the party started weekend, Fellas, how was 13 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:31.719 it good weekend? I mean they never last long enough? 14 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.280 Right? Well, then we have a short work week this week, 15 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:35.840 that's true. It's July holiday. 16 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:37.439 Is that the first time I started the week with 17 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:40.719 a corny, very you know, low hanging fruit. 18 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:44.200 Type of joked week. Weekend's not lasting long enough again. 19 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:46.280 You know what's nice is we have we have Friday 20 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:50.000 off well, and we have Saturday off with Joe Elliott 21 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:50.840 because I told. 22 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:52.799 Them I'm out on Thursday as well, and I'm out 23 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:53.600 on next Monday. 24 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:56.280 Look at this, see, and that's why I told the boss, 25 00:00:56.320 --> 00:00:58.640 I said, are we having to show Saturday because I'm 26 00:00:58.679 --> 00:00:59.799 probably gonna take that off. 27 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:03.159 I'm no, yeah, get that would be a tough workday 28 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.400 to not request off, just given how weird it would 29 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:08.400 be to have the fourth of July off and then coming. 30 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:09.560 Yeah, I get it, I totally get it. 31 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:12.400 How about that, I'm mentioning that weekends never last long enough. 32 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:15.040 And then we've realized that we all have some added 33 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:17.480 time off because we're going to be celebrating fourth of July. 34 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:19.799 So that's a good way to get things started. Absolute 35 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:20.640 good stuff, all right. 36 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:23.719 So this is probably going to be the story that 37 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.040 you hear about more than any story today here locally, 38 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:30.680 and that is the passing of legendary Hall of Famer. 39 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:33.719 I mean, a guy who I could give you the 40 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:35.799 rundown of all of what he accomplished in horse racing, 41 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:36.879 but that would take a lot of time. 42 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:38.040 But it's d WAYE. 43 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:40.000 Lucas who passed away at the age of eighty nine 44 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:44.239 on Saturday four time, Kentucky Derby Winter. They will release 45 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.439 this news yesterday morning from Churchill Downs. I believe their 46 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:49.680 PR team was the first to kind of get it 47 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:54.239 out there, so obviously somebody that has as much accomplishments 48 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:57.079 as nearly anybody you'll find in the sport. 49 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:59.439 I mean, he had twenty Breeders' Cup victories. 50 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.560 In total, he had let's see, fourteen wins when it 51 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:09.479 comes to the Triple Crown Races, the Preakness, Belmont Stakes, 52 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.080 and the Derby. So a guy again when it comes 53 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.719 to his accomplishments, I'm sure all of you are well 54 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.879 aware of just how accomplished he was. But as someone 55 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:20.879 who has before getting this opportunity, anytime I spent in 56 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.159 front of a microphone and broadcasting has always just been 57 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.520 on the sports side. So I didn't get a chance 58 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:27.039 to meet the legend. But I can tell you this, 59 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:30.159 if I had, I would have considered it an absolute privilege. 60 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.800 And as mentioned, you'll hear a lot about his professional accomplishments, 61 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.120 which clearly made in one of the best, one of 62 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.919 the most iconic trainers in horse racing history. In fact, 63 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:41.960 you'll probably learn some things throughout these next couple of 64 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:45.439 days that makes you realize he was even more successful 65 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:46.439 than maybe you knew. 66 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:48.199 But as someone who's never been. 67 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.879 A big horse racing fan, which that's putting it lightly, 68 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.439 I just never really get into the sport a whole 69 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.919 lot other than the Derby, and I have no shame 70 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:56.520 in admitting that. 71 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:58.479 It's just it'd be a life I said otherwise. 72 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:00.919 But what always stood out to me in my time 73 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:04.759 covering sports mediing, of course the Derby and horse racing 74 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:08.560 comes along with that to an extent, he's I mean, 75 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:11.800 this is somebody that I never heard anyone say anything 76 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:16.159 that wasn't positive about him, And I mean those who 77 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:17.639 did get a chance to cover him, that got a 78 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.840 chance to know him a little bit. And I think 79 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:25.120 you'll likely hear praise about him as an individual and 80 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:27.639 how he treated a lot of people long before you'll 81 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:29.680 hear somebody mention, oh, by the way, he's one of 82 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:30.599 the best to ever do it. 83 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:31.840 In horse racing too. 84 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:33.879 So I think that's a result of many things, but 85 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.280 mostly it's how he treated people. And for a guy 86 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:39.520 who did it as long as he did, I would 87 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:42.240 say that he was pretty consistent when it comes to 88 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:45.319 just having an impact on people, seemingly in a positive way. 89 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:46.680 So again, I did not get a chance to ever 90 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:48.919 meet him, but clearly, if you live in this town, 91 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:50.800 even if you don't pay attention to horse racing at all, 92 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:53.159 you know who de Wayne Lucas is and he passed 93 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:56.599 away on Saturday evening at the age of eighty nine. 94 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.960 And Scott, you're more versed in the sport of horse 95 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:02.439 racing than I am, and you could maybe know a 96 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:03.800 little bit, and that means you know more than me. 97 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:07.960 But when it comes to just trainers that just had 98 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:12.400 had such long careers and just throughout many different eras 99 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:15.719 and generations of the sport, they were always on top 100 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:17.639 or near the top. I mean, it's de Wayne Lucas, 101 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:20.959 Bob Bafford, and there's others, but he's certainly in that group. 102 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.319 Yeah, he is, Nick And I think to your point, 103 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.000 you know, d Wayne Lucas saw his success in the 104 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:29.480 late eighties the nineties, whereas we had Bafford, the Steve 105 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:31.759 s Mussen's, et cetera going through here. But I think 106 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:33.720 you summarized it best in what you were talking about. 107 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:36.720 He was well liked, affectionately known as the Coach. I 108 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:38.560 was able to see him while we were on the backside, 109 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.399 and as he's often talked about, he's out early in 110 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:43.800 the morning, you know, even before the sun comes up, 111 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.199 and you can't miss his presence. When he's on the track. 112 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.240 You know exactly who he is when you see him. 113 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:51.959 I saw him, and for myself coming into the horse 114 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.600 racing mix sort of after that apex of his career, 115 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.360 I didn't know him. He still was larger than life. 116 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:01.319 I'm glad you used the word present, because that's that again, 117 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:04.600 without having any direct interaction with him at all, he 118 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.160 is someone that's certainly with just what he accomplished, and 119 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:10.120 I guess just the impact that he had on people. Certainly, 120 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:12.279 I think when you have a presence about yourself that 121 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.120 stands out more so than others, you probably have a 122 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.519 lot of charisma. And yeah, rest in peace to de 123 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.560 Wayne Lucas and thoughts and prayers to his family and 124 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:24.920 the whole horse racing family as a legend passed away 125 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:27.439 this weekend. All right, we've got news and actually we've 126 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:29.240 got tragicking weather coming your way. We'll get to sports 127 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.759 coming up in about fifteen minutes. Roy O'Neil gonna join 128 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:33.199 us at five forty five. A lot to get to 129 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:37.480 nationally right now. I'd say the biggest story is what 130 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:40.759 took place in Idaho over the weekend, which in fact 131 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.199 I say over the weekend, it was last night. It 132 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:44.879 was actually late last night as firefooter, I think it 133 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.279 was two firefighters, actually more than that, but we now 134 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:51.639 have two people dead and it's because a firefight. Multiple 135 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:55.639 firefighters were ambushed while responding to a fire and it seems. 136 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:57.480 As if it was a set up, which we'll. 137 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.040 Get the latest on that as at least as best 138 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.160 we can for rio'eil coming up here at about five 139 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.040 forty five. It is Kentucky his morning news on news 140 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:07.600 radio eight forty whas. Maybe it's just a sign of 141 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:11.800 getting getting acclimated with the schedule that is still on 142 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:12.480 the new side. 143 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.759 It's new ish, but this is this is week four. 144 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.120 I'm sorry, in a week five of me here in 145 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.439 this in this spot getting us started here at eight 146 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:25.399 forty whas with Kentucky and this morning news, so I'm 147 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:26.800 in him a fifth week and they're still letting me 148 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:29.399 do it, which is great. But that song is true. 149 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:33.600 It is Monday, and I was expecting to really feel 150 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:34.720 it this morning, but. 151 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:35.639 I didn't as much. 152 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:39.000 So I'm riding some momentum here, some energy because I 153 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:40.639 just assume, well, Monday is going to be tough because 154 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.279 Mondays usually are. But you know, three o'clock in the 155 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.800 morning being when your Monday starts is something that I 156 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:50.079 just don't think will ever be easy. But when you, 157 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:51.920 I guess, prepare for the worst and hope for the 158 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.079 best and end up, you know, not having a rough 159 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.040 Monday morning, I'm gonna I'm. 160 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:58.160 Gonna celebrate that. It is five seventeen. 161 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.399 In fact, five eighteen now here at Kentucky is news 162 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:02.439 on News Radio eight forty whas. We'll have our first 163 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.439 sports update coming up in about seven minutes. But real quick, 164 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.920 there is a flash flood warning that's been issued north 165 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.319 of us here in southern Indiana. I believe it's still 166 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.279 considered southern Indiana, but it's it's not you know, we're 167 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:18.600 not talking Jeffersonville, Clarksville, that area. 168 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:19.720 We're talking north of that. 169 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:23.079 So if flash flood warning has been issued for Brown County, 170 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.319 Jackson County, and Lawrence County as well as Monroe County 171 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:30.839 in Indiana until between six thirty I'm sorry, no between, 172 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:35.040 it's seven am. So the the warning is until seven o'clock. 173 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.879 So again that tells me that it's our as we 174 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.319 as we stand as we speak right now at five 175 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.399 eighteen am, they've already had a lot of rain coming 176 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.040 down I would assume or maybe it's on the way 177 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.360 because here where we are in downtown Louisville, it hasn't 178 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.240 happened just yet, but again, some storms expected this morning. 179 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.240 We're gonna have a wet and stormy start to the day, 180 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:56.360 and it sounds like we'll have the same thing later 181 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.079 today as the day comes to an end. But counties 182 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.600 those county mentioned as far as just the communities, the 183 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.480 town's in that area. Of course, Nashville that's Brown County. 184 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:07.680 I think a lot of folks here in loulll are 185 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:11.040 familiar with Brown County. But in Jackson County that is Brownstown. 186 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.079 You've got Seymour, Corrouthersville, and then in Monroe County that's Bloomington. 187 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.000 So that's certainly north of us. 188 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.879 So not in the direct area here where we are today. 189 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:24.720 But obviously, when you're on a station like news radio 190 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:27.879 eight forty, whas your region a lot more people than 191 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.920 just the Louisville metro area. So if you are in 192 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:32.840 those areas, be advised. 193 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:33.879 There is a. 194 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:37.919 Flash flood warning. In fact, now it's been it looks 195 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:40.519 like it's been extended, so Jackson County until eight o'clock. 196 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:45.279 Lawrence County, Indiana until eight fifteen. All right, so last 197 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.720 week on Friday, right, and we end this show at 198 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:50.799 nine am. So a lot of things developed throughout the day, 199 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:53.000 and I'm still trying to get comfortable as far as Okay, 200 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:56.000 this is a news talk show. If things come up 201 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.039 on a Friday and then you get to Monday, how 202 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.080 newsy is that? Well, I think the Crystal Rogers case 203 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.600 is going to be something that that the last I 204 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.159 think the expectation is it's going to be a ten 205 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:09.320 day trial. But there was some some testimony during during 206 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:12.799 the trial on Friday afternoon that I think it didn't 207 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:16.840 change the case as far as any any physical evidence, 208 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.440 but the testimony from one of the lawson's ex girlfriends, 209 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:22.879 I mean it to me, I think it's as far 210 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:27.039 as testimony only, it's as damaging as anything for the 211 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:30.320 defense thus far. But what I keep coming back to is, yes, 212 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.799 this is I mean, this is the scenario where those 213 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.360 people being charged and those that haven't been charged but 214 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:42.039 are listed as unindicted code conspirators, Brooks House, brother Nick, 215 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:44.480 his mother, Rosemary, like all the all the all the 216 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:48.159 key figures in this whole thing. Allegedly, the scenario where 217 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:51.480 they weren't involved. I just think is insanely unlikely, almost 218 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.639 just impossible to really believe. But when it comes to 219 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.759 the prosecution, every bit of evidence they have is circumstantial. 220 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.120 It's not it's not you know, it's not any direct proof. 221 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.279 And even though the testimony from Friday I think was damaging, 222 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:08.080 let's be honest. That's that's that's one person's word. And 223 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.080 I wouldn't, you know, I would assume that anybody who 224 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:13.919 is under oath would never lie, but maybe not naive. 225 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:16.159 And again to hope you can sense sarcasm. All right, 226 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.000 we've got sports coming your way with Scott Fitzgerald. But 227 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.080 first another check of traffic and weather right here on 228 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:20.720 news radio. 229 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.000 A forty whas. 230 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:25.840 Thank you very much, John Shannon. It is five point 231 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.799 thirty five here Kentucky in this morning news with Nick 232 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:28.679 Coffee on news. 233 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:32.000 Radio eight forty whas. Take us with you wherever you go. 234 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:35.279 Listen live at WHS dot com, and also you can 235 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:36.039 listen live on. 236 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:37.080 The iHeartRadio app. 237 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.039 And a reminder, we've got the talkback feature there if 238 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.720 you want to interact and share whatever it is you 239 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:46.320 want with us. Questions, complaints, comments, compliments, insults. Feel free 240 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.759 to fire away again, just hit that microphone button on 241 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:51.960 the app and they'll they'll prompt you and you're. 242 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:53.679 Ready to rip it off, rip off whatever you'd like, 243 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:54.679 all right. 244 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.600 So on Friday afternoon, there was testimony as the first 245 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:02.519 week at the Crystal Rogers trial was wrapping up. And 246 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:06.519 it would probably be a stretch to say that the 247 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:11.399 testimony completely changed the case, but I think it was, 248 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.519 at least from my perspective, the most damaging testimony when 249 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.840 it comes to the defense. So there was a neighbor 250 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:23.720 who provided testimony that Brooks House Brooks Howke's family suspiciously 251 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:27.639 moved bags from their trunks into his basement days after 252 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:33.919 Crystal Rogers vanished, and I guess just the prosecution. Other 253 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:38.200 than that testimony from the neighbor, Uh, there was another Yeah, 254 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:41.279 this was a former I think it was a former 255 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:47.519 girlfriend who was dating Lawson who's also being is also 256 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:51.000 part of this this trial as well, and she claims 257 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:56.720 that she heard the father son duo of Lawson discussing 258 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.720 moving a body on the Hawk farm using as skid steer. 259 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:04.559 So again that's again that's that's testimony. It's not proof, 260 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:08.360 but that's somebody that clearly it'd be a tough thing 261 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:11.679 to to deny that this, that this wasn't somebody that 262 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.080 was close to the Lawsons. See, I prosecutes alleged that 263 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.240 How killed Rogers at the family farm on July third, 264 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:23.840 and cell data contradicts the alibi that he that he claims, 265 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.480 so play it plays. The cell data puts him at 266 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.600 the farm until midnight, with a stop at a campground, 267 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:33.840 not at home as he initially claimed. And I guess 268 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:38.320 is still claiming. But but the witness here, uh is 269 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:42.200 Heather Snelling And again she uh. She testified that she 270 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:45.720 overheard Joseph and Stephen Lawson discussing moving a body on 271 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.399 the Hauk farm using its using a skid steer. She 272 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.600 claims that they were at the loss in home and 273 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:55.279 she was in another room and overheard that that conversation. Also, 274 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:59.240 the neighbor Mary Maddingly, she claims that she saw How's 275 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:02.279 mother rose Mary and brother Nick. Again, both of those 276 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.399 the brother former law enforcement officer Nick and then the 277 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:10.240 mother Rosemary. They're both considered unindicted co conspirators. But the 278 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:13.679 neighbors says that she saw both Rosemary and Nick at 279 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:19.320 Hawke's home post disappearance, moving cars to back trucks towards 280 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:23.080 the basement, and there was also she saw something that 281 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:24.639 looked as if and I don't know, I don't have 282 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:26.399 the exact testimony as far as what was said word 283 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:29.840 for word, but she saw them carrying white bags inside 284 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:35.200 and again using vehicles to I suppose, hide what they 285 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.440 were doing from people that would be able to see it. 286 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:41.840 So yeah, that's that's that's the latest as far. 287 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:47.000 As the the the prosecutions witnesses, and again that's not 288 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:50.360 a good look but also far from any direct proof. 289 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:55.639 And the the counter arguments from from Hauke's team as lawyers, 290 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:58.279 they argue that again this just this, this whole case 291 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:04.360 is circumstantial and the media presence has been a big 292 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:06.759 factor to why people just I guess again I'm paraphrasing 293 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:08.480 here as far as with defenses, but they're claiming that 294 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:11.159 the behavior, as far as how they've acted towards law 295 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:13.559 enforcement was all because they just they felt as if, 296 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.799 because the media pressure that's out there, that even if 297 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:18.960 they are innocent, everybody just wants them to go down 298 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.200 for the crime. But they claim that the cell phone 299 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.759 pings reflect Wi Fi connections, not a campground stop. And 300 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:32.200 they also questioned the witness, the Heather Snell, and they 301 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:36.440 question why she delayed in sharing this information. And the 302 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.360 attorney for laws and not how it emphasizes his minimal 303 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.279 mentions throughout this whole thing, basically saying, you know, distancing 304 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.759 him from the actions of the other lawson and of 305 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.240 course Brooks Howkes. So again it's nobody homicide, and the 306 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:53.840 defense is going to mention that endlessly, as they probably should. 307 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:59.440 But as far as getting a conviction knowing that it's 308 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:03.159 all circumstantial, I mean, that's that's happened certainly when it 309 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.039 comes to trials, but. 310 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:08.279 It's always led me to believe, well. 311 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.159 You know, if I was on the jury, I kind 312 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.120 of think I know which side I'd be be laning. 313 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:16.200 But that's just me. All Right. We've got roy o'eil 314 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:17.360 set to join us coming up here. 315 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:19.960 After we get our next update on traffic and weather, 316 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:23.279 we'll get the latest on this suspected shooter who allegedly 317 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:27.679 killed two Idaho firefighters and injured at least one. That 318 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.480 suspected shooter has been found dead with the weapon in Idaho. 319 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.639 But as far as what we know about who it 320 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.480 is and the entire situation. We'll see what we can 321 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.360 get from Roory O'Neil of NBC News coming up here 322 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.799 just a moment right here our news radio eight forty whs. 323 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.799 It is five forty five here at Kentucky and it's 324 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.399 morning news on news radio eight forty whas. Let's bring 325 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:51.240 in Rory o'eal of it in BC News. So, we 326 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:55.440 had an active shooting situation in Idaho yesterday firefighters ambushed. 327 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.919 I believe two have have been pronounced dead. One was 328 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:01.879 in surgery last saw. And also the latest is that 329 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.559 the perpetrator here has been found also dead. What else 330 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:07.639 can you tell us about this developing story, Rory. 331 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:10.840 Yeah, and good morning. The other factor is whether or 332 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:13.559 not this shooter whose body was found near the scene 333 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:16.919 of the fire, was the only person involved in this. 334 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.639 When the sheriff was first talking about it, they suspected 335 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:22.840 there may be multiple gunmen, but at an update. 336 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:25.840 He gave last night, they now believe it. 337 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.960 Was just the lone shooter who was responsible. That that 338 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:33.960 person set the fire to draw out the firefighters in Cordelaine, Iowa, Idaho, 339 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:37.840 and then started firing on the firefighters who responded to 340 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.200 the scene. As you said, two were killed. A third 341 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.240 it was in surgery at last report and has been 342 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.919 listed as being now in stable condition. But now the 343 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:50.720 question is who was this guy, what was he doing, 344 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:52.320 and why did he do it? 345 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:55.240 If we'll ever know, yes, and I would imagine we'll 346 00:16:55.240 --> 00:17:00.279 find out the identity of this perpetrator soon. And as 347 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:02.440 far as right motive and whatnot, I mean, it's just 348 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.240 this is I can't imagine a first responder on a 349 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:08.079 way on your way to do, you know, what is 350 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:10.720 something that is very important and serve and protect, and 351 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.440 then you become the victim. 352 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:17.319 Just awful, right, and especially in these fire situations. The 353 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.359 sheriff said they really didn't have time to secure the 354 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:23.000 crime scene to do more of an investigation because the 355 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.720 brush fire he had set was approaching, so they sort 356 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.319 of had to scoop up the evidence that at the 357 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:33.359 scene and get out of there because this obviously complicated 358 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:34.799 the response to fight the fire. 359 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:35.720 You know. 360 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:38.079 They also said that they were able to track this 361 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:42.559 guy down because the suspect's cell phone. Apparently they could 362 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:44.279 track the fact that there was a phone in the 363 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:49.000 area that wasn't moving for hours, and that led them 364 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:50.799 to say, hey, wait a minute, now, that doesn't seem 365 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:52.720 to make sense and brought them to the scene. 366 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:57.039 So do we know I mean, I assume, well, I 367 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:59.720 don't know, the fire itself would obviously get attention, that 368 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:02.359 would that would get the fire team there to to 369 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.000 put it out and do what they're supposed to do. 370 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.440 But do we know if that if that phone that 371 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:08.640 they found that the is that the phone that called 372 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:10.279 nine one one I guess to report. 373 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:14.039 Ith, Yeah, I don't. We don't know that yet, but yeah, 374 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:15.720 I don't. I don't think they've gotten into that kind 375 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.599 of detail yet. But now that they have the phone, uh, 376 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:21.519 and they certainly know who the suspect is. At this point, 377 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:24.839 a lot of this is going to come together very quickly, very. 378 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:26.480 Very big story, of course, and we'll keep you updated 379 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.039 as best we can as far as what we what 380 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:31.559 we find out about the alleged perpetrator here, all right. Also, Rory, 381 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:34.960 I wanted to get your thoughts on Henry. It stands 382 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:38.440 for high earner, not rich yet. Why are those that 383 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:42.160 are making the big salaries still struggling financially? 384 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:43.240 What can you tell us about that? 385 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:45.960 Well? A couple of new reports both brought up this 386 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:48.640 Henry term in the past few days. As you said, 387 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:52.559 high earner, not rich yet, emphasis on the why for yet. 388 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:55.400 But this is about millennials really sort of hitting their 389 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.839 stride when it comes to earning potential, and what they're 390 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:01.640 finding is they maybe making six figures, but they're barely 391 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:05.400 making ends meet either the cost of childcare, which was 392 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.759 cited multiple times in these reports, the cost of saving 393 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:15.160 for college. Oftentimes, these Henry members are in they're in 394 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.519 the squeeze, in the sandwich. They've got to take care 395 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:20.960 of parents and children, and they're finding that despite making 396 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:25.359 high incomes, they still aren't getting ahead yet. 397 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:27.559 I'm with you on the why. That's got to be 398 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.960 the emphasis. The yet makes it seem as if we'll 399 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.559 get to a point where this is not a thing. 400 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:32.000 But I'm not. 401 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.799