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much for listening to another episode of Dogman Encounters Radio.

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Really appreciate you listening. Tonight's guest wish is to remain anonymous.

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With that in mind, we're just gonna call her Randy.

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Let's bring her in here now, Randy, thanks so much

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for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you know you're welcome. Randy. Please give us a

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brief bio on yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've lived in Colorado most of my life. I'm

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forty one, I think, yeah, forty one. I have two kids,

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two boys, they're teenagers now, and I work all the time,

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so I don't have a whole lot of time, you know,

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to spend it home, but you know, make make do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what it's like when you work all

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the time. Seems like any time off is a holiday.

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I feel for you, I really do. Let's set a

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baseline here, what were your thoughts about the existence of

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cryptids before you had that encounter that we're going to

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talk about tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well, never really. Well, I guess when I was like four,

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I thought that I had had some like paranormal experiences.

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But again I was four, so I was like, well,

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I was probably imagining it or whatever, but I don't know.

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I mean, I always thought there was probably some stuff

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out there, but never you know, I always would would

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think about like Bigfoot or whatever. You know, my grandma

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had said that she saw Bigfoot she lived in Idaho,

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but I had never seen anything weird until twenty eleven,

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So that's I guess I was really open. I mean,

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I wasn't like a super skeptic or anything like that,

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but I'd never seen anything with my own eyes, so

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I didn't really truly believe anything. You know, at that time.

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Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't make any different from most people. You

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really didn't have any reason to believe that things like

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this could be out there, that is, until you actually

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saw one that night, So it doesn't make any different

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from most people. You'd never shared all the details of

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your encounter with anyone until we had our first conversation.

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From what I understand, why did you decide to keep

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it in and not put it out there with at

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least family members.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've told some of my family members, but not many,

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just my kids and like my mom pretty much. And

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then the person who was with me that night. Of course,

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we talked about it that night. But I don't know.

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I guess people Well, I'm sure you know how people are, well,

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you know, I mean a lot. I guess a lot

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of people are just I don't know, like you know,

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I guess fear of not being believed or you know, yeah,

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ye had.

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Speaker 2: To fear that your family members that you didn't tell

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about the experience, that they were going to laugh at

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you and make fun of you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they'd think I was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, unfortunately, that's pretty common a lot of people.

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They keep their encounters in It's like a prison with

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no walls, That's how I put it. Because here you

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have this experience that you'd really benefit from being able

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to put out there and talk about, but you can't

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in a lot of cases because of what you just mentioned,

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the fear of being derided and being the punchline that

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every family get together. It's really a shame that you

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have to worry about something like that when you have

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a dog me an encounter. But in most cases, you know,

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that's what you get. When you had your encounter in

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November of twenty eleven, you said that you noticed something

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strange before it actually happened. Please expand on that for us.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was nighttime, so in you know, out in

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the middle of nowhere kind of uh, you know, it

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gets really dark, so you can see the stars and everything.

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there was a lot of lights in the sky. And

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couple of them were you know, I noticed we're planes,

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but there were more than just that. It was, I

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don't know, there was a lot of like blinking going on,

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and you know, different colors. I don't know, it was

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really weird. I pointed it out to who I was with,

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and you know, he said, oh, yeah, like that's that

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is pretty weird, you know, and I haven't since then

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seen anything quite like that. I mean, it was there's

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just a lot of sky activity. It was really strange.

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I'm not sure if that had anything to do with

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it at all, but it was definitely something. I remember

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you were in my mind.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask if you think the two

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might have been connected. There have been quite a few

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eyewitnesses who had an encounter with a dog man or

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a sasquatch and not long after that they saw UFO

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or something happened along those lines, which it really does

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make you wonder if there is a connection, But of

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course that's something we're never going to have the answer to.

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All we can do is, yes, that night when you

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had your encounter, you had your two boys with you.

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How old were they back then?

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Speaker 1: Let's see they were one of them was one and

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another the other one was three?

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Speaker 2: Really young man. Yeah, yeah, so they're so young that

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I'm sure even the three year old doesn't remember anything

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about that night, does he?

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Speaker 1: No, he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: You said that you told them about your encounter. How

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did they respond though? When you did that?

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Speaker 1: You know, they they believe me. We're really close, so

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you know, they they believe me, and they know, you know,

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they know when I'm really serious. I joke a lot,

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like a lot a lot, like I'm a clown, but

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like they totally know that that, you know, that's not

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a joke and I was very dead serious. But yeah,

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I do believe that they truly believe me.

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Speaker 2: Well that's good. Do this seem to be glad that

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you told them, or pretty indifferent about the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially my older one. He loves it when I

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tell him, you know, anything about you know, my past

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experiences and stuff. And yeah, he every now and again

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he'll ask me about that, you know, he'll bring it

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up again, you know, and and ask me more questions

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about it, and we talk about it sometimes. Still, Well, it's.

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Speaker 2: Always good to have someone to do that with, it,

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really is. Now. I get the idea, the impression that

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you might want to keep your friend's identity secret as well,

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and with that in mind, reveal as little as you

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want to to answer this next question. I'm basically wondering,

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what can you tell us about that friend who was

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with you that night.

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Speaker 1: Well, he lived right down the street from me at

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the time, about a mile away, and you know, he

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lived in that house for fifteen to twenty years. I

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believe his parents owned it, and he lived there for

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a very very very long time. And two months after

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this happened, he just abruptly moved out of it there,

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you know, And I didn't really hear much from him

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after this incident. We talked about it that night and

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then never spoke about it again, but about a month afterwards,

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you know, like it was just hard to get a

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hold of him, and you know, we kind of lost contact.

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So the only connection I have now is a friend

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of mine who still talks to him, and she has

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tried to bring it up to him, and he just

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shuts her down, like he will not he refuses to

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talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So it might seem like it was a case of

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him moving away made it inconvenient to stand contact with you,

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but it really could go the other way as well.

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Which way do you think it is? Do you think

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you lost contact with him because he moved away and

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it wasn't as convenient to speak with you, or do

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you think he associated you with that encounter what happened

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that night and speaking with you thinking about you brought

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up bad memories about what happened that night, and that's

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why you decided to be so distant.

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Speaker 1: I think a little bit of both. But I do

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know that you know, we started losing contact before he moved, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, that could go two ways too. I mean, if

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he did associate you with that encounter and thinking about

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that encounter was the last thing he wanted to do

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the moment it happened, he might have decided to distance

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himself from you. But hopefully that's not the case. Hopefully

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it's just something else that caused that to happen. But

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whatever the reason, I'm just so sorry to hear that

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you did lose contact with him like that. That's too bad.

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All right, Randy, please tell us all about your encounter. Now,

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give us every last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: So, like I, like I said, the sky was you know,

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a bit active, and we were gone our way back

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from the store when I had noticed that it was

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about you know, between nine and nine thirty. It was

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really dark though, it being November and all in Colorado,

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and he had five dogs. So the setting is like

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when I say in the middle of nowhere, I mean

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there's a store down the road, like maybe fifteen minutes

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down the road. But and there's not a lot of houses.

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of cows. There's small patches of like you know woods

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area it's just you know, there's a lot of cows

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street he lived on, I didn't tell you this before either,

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but it was. It's on a dirt road, and he

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was about three quarters of the way down the street

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is where his house was. Well, the neighbors, Okay, so

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he has five dogs at the time. He has five dogs,

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and they're all like in a you know, pretty large

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chain fence area. That and these I've never ever, like

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the whole time I knew him, I never heard none

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of the dogs bark or you know anything like. They

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are very calm and well behaved and quiet. You don't

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even barely notice they're there. Really. Well, the neighbors that

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like their whole driveway there was like little small you

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know lights, you know, lighting up the whole pathway of

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their driveway, which is how I saw that. But first

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before I saw that, So we pull in the dogs.

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They are barking their heads off, They're all freaking out,

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and you know, we're like, wow, that's that's really weird.

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he was like, yeah, I don't really hardly ever hear

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him bark either, you know, but they were freaking out, panicking,

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and it made me on edge, like, you know, a

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little uneasy. So I grabbed the boys and one of

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them I was on my hip, the other one I

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was holding his hand, and we walked up the porch steps.

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I took them. I went to go take them inside,

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and I come back out to help carry some stuff in,

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and tr Trey was kind of on edge like already,

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so he was kind of like scoping the place out

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a little bit, you know. He he kind of was

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trying to walk around the trailer to see like what,

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you know, if he could see anything that was out

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if it was instant or what. But they they went silent.

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they were just freaking out, like really bad. When Tray

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the front door at this time, and I saw him

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creeping around the you know, trailer, and we hear this

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like really long, deep, you know, growl, I guess, and

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it might be coming from. I mean, it literally was

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just surrounding you, like it was coming from like everywhere.

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and by the time he makes it almost to the

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end of the trailer, the neighbor's lit up pathway, I

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saw like a silhouette, so like I did not see

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any details or but what I would describe it as

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is like a long like long bodied, large large bodied

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I guess it reminded me of a greyhound for some reason,

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but a greyhound dog like and he was running on

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all fours up the lit up pathway. And I'm like

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not exaggerating when I say this, Like when he was

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running on all fours, about halfway up the pathway, he

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went from four feet running to standing up on two

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feet and then continued to run and didn't slow down

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or anything to like make that transition. And it was

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like really really like I almost I had to like question,

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like what the heck I was like if I was

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really seeing that. But again I was not the only

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one that saw that, so really shortly after that, you know,

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he kind of followed me inside and we discussed it.

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I didn't end up going home that night, but I

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know I've heard a lot of like people who ever

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described like when they've you know, witnessed anything like the

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transition from four legs to two feet. I would hear

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like usually there's like a some crackling of bones or

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like you know, it's kind of a you know, a

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whole ordeal for the transition. But in this case, that

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was not like that. It was literally four feet running

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and and transitioning to two feet running like without missing

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a beat like whatsoever. It was incredibly incredibly strange and

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at the time, I didn't even consider like a dog

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man or anything, because at the time I had no

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clue that that even existed. I I would have. I

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mean at the time, like, really, what was going through

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my mind was did I just see like a werewolf?

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Like what in the world, you know, did I just see?

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And I mean every single day of my life since then,

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I have thought about that experience every single day. For

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a long time, I was really terrified to go outside,

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especially at night, which I'm not sure why, because I,

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you know, you know, scary things. If they're there at night,

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I'm sure they're probably there during the daytime too. But

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for the longest time, I was really fearful. But then

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I just it just started getting very fascinating. I guess,

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like I started doing a little research. I didn't start

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doing research till years later, though, I don't know why,

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but I did think about it every day. But then

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a few years later I started doing a bunch of research,

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and I was like looking at like werewolves and like

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sightings of werewolves, and and then I was like, well,

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just like dog man, you know, like a man that's

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a dog or a dog man half man half dog,

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you know. And then I found your show, and that's

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when I started listening and realized that, Wow, there's like, way, way,

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way more people out there that like have seen stuff

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similar to that than I ever would have imagined.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you only knew, there are tons and tons

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I'll bet you know people who've had encounters with dog

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men that you don't realize they've had these encounters because

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of course they haven't put it out there that they

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have those experiences. But yeah, these encounters are far from

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a very rare thing. It's not like they're common. I

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wouldn't say they're common, but they do happen a lot

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more than most people would ever believe. It could have

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so easily stayed hidden from you. Why do you think

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it made its presence known to you the way it did.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know. At the time, I was like,

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oh my gosh, he was probably whatever that was was

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probably going to eat the dogs or something, you know,

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or I don't know, But like I guess, the more

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I think about it, you know, I really don't know,

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but I really can tell you. The one thing though,

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is that I don't regret having that experience though, because

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it's I don't know, it's it fascinates me really, especially nowadays,

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instead of you know, yeah, it definitely fascinates me. Fascinating thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you can say that, that's a good thing.

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Have there been any negative things that have come along

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with that? You said that you're glad that you had

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that experience, which tends to make me think it's almost

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all been positive blowback from it. Have there been any

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negative things that have come out of this?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, definitely, especially right like very soon after, Like

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I was just it put a lot of fear in me.

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But and nowadays it's not so much me, Like I'm

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not really worried about me. I like worry about my

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kids because they love to go on walks and they

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really love to go on walks when it's dark outside

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for some reason. So and that picture pops in my

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head when they do, you know, it just the picts

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the visual of what I saw, you know, enters my mind.

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So a lot of times, you know, when they're hey, Mom,

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I'm going to go out for a walk, you know,

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and I'm just like, oh my gosh, here, can you

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take this mace with you? You know? But but yeah, wait,

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you were what you were telling me the last time

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we talked was actually really helpful.

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Speaker 2: What you mean about me heading into the big woods

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and walking miles and miles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that and you know the instructions that like, if

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you see one, you know what you should do.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, I'm glad that helped you. How far into

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the woods do these guys walk at night time?

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Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot of woods, like well, where

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there is, there's a small patch of woods, like well,

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it's a pretty small patch of woods, like basically in

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our backyard. But they walk usually the other direction, which

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is not not woods but still a lot of farm

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animals and stuff. And I imagine that's you know, probably

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maybe what drew the creature out here. I don't know,

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but but yeah, it's just dark, just darkness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, but yeah, they'll go like a half a mile,

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you know, three quarters of a mile, sometimes you a mile.

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Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't have to be in the woods to

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have a dog mean encounter any place outdoors that's their playground,

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especially at nighttime. You know, after our first conversation, I

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should have asked for more clarity on this, but from

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some of the things that you said in that conversation,

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I kind of got the impression that you had the mindset,

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at least up until the point where we spoke there,

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I got the impression you had the mindset that as

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long as you're inside, as long as the boys were inside,

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everything was good. That was a safe place. But later

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on in that conversation I shed light on the fact

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that if they wanted to come into your home and

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get you, they could. But the fact that all these

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years later you haven't had a dog. Main problem is

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everything to do with the fact that they don't want

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to come into your home and get you. They don't

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want to get your period. Before we had the conversation,

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did you have that mindset that inside your home was

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a safe place from them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess it's like a natural thing. But yeah,

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I mean I have actually thought of that before, Like, yeah,

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I'm pretty sure that if it really wanted to, you know,

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it could just kick down a wall. You know, these

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are not very strong walls, And that does come to

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my mind every every now and again. But yeah, for

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the most part, I did feel pretty safe in here.

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It was very rare that I would realize that, come

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to that realization. But yeah, you pointed that out, and yeah,

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you are absolutely right, just as unsafe in here pretty

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much as out there.

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely. Now for some people that's really unnerving when

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I shed light on that fact. But I mean, you'd

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be better off not living a lie knowing the truth

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of the matter than living a lie and not realizing

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that if they did want to come in and get

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you they could. But like I hammered home in that

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conversation with you, yes, it's true if they wanted to

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come in, they could, but if at all this time,

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but they haven't done that for the best possible reason,

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and that's because they don't want to come in and

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get you. So I just wanted to make sure you

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clearly understood that. Now. You said that it had a

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body like a greyhound, but how would you describe its head?

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess I didn't really like when I by

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the way, when I when I I forgot to mention that, uh,

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when I mean, when I say greyhound, I meant like

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a long haired, like a you know, long bodied, long

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haired like greyhound. You know. But I guess now that

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I think of it and look back, I don't know

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I just attached greyhound to it back then. I don't

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know why, because I mean, it wasn't scrawny or anything.

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It had you know, quite a bit of it looked

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like it was like you know, had quite a bit

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of hair, like long hair. I couldn't see like details.

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I could tell it was like a big and long,

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you know, like tall, you know, especially when it stood

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up on two feet while it was running, you know

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it you know tall, you know. But I guess I

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can't really I can't really remember like the head too

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much as far as like, I can't really remember you

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know too much about that because since I only saw

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the silhouette, you know, but it definitely was a dog

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of some sort like a canine or you know, definitely

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there's no mistake in that for sure, But I don't

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really know. Yeah, it's hard to remember when I didn't

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really see too much detail, you know, just a silhouette.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can't be folded for that. You see something

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like out there like that out there that's not supposed

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to exist, your brain's gonna short circuit. I think you

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deserve a lot of credit for observing what you did,

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for noticing details you did, so, yeah, you can't be

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foulded for that at all. Did you see enough detail? Though?

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And again, if you didn't no big deal. It's understandable.

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But did you see enough details to be able to

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tell if the hair on its head might have been

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longer or the same length as on the rest of

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its body?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think like so from what I remember, like

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the like around the I guess a part of my

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brain must remember a part of the head or something,

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because I remember I do remember some like longer hair,

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like I guess where you know, like the jaw area,

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you know, like the sides of the face or the

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jaw area or something. You know, like I remember it

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being bigger there, you know, bushier or bigger.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said, did a really good job noticing

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that and all those other details? You really did. Now

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you dove headlong into the whole cryptid top after you

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had that experience. But how long was it before you

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actually were able to hang a name on what it

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was that you saw that night?

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Speaker 1: A few years at least, like probably I don't know,

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maybe like four years at least, I think, Wow.

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Speaker 2: About four years? Did that either? Weigh at you? Were

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you frustrated, wanting to know more than anything what it

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was that you saw? You I'm sure you knew there

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had to be a name for what it was that

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you saw, but where you're really frustrated by that not knowing?

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I'll tell you I thought, for the like

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longest time, I in my head, I chalked it up

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to being, well, you know, there definitely obviously was like

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a government experiment gone wrong, you know, or something like

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something got loose that you know they created or you know,

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That's that's pretty much where my mind went.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a lot of people they wonder things like

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that after seeing one of these guys. So again, that

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doesn't make you any different from a lot of other

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eyewitnesses either, It really doesn't. Now you said that there

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has been some negative blowback from this from that experience,

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Does that mean you've had recurring nightmares or no trouble

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with nightmares?

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Speaker 1: I haven't really had not to speak of. No, I

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haven't really had any nightmares. Uh. I have for some reason,

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more nightmares about tornadoes than anything. But I haven't really

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had any nightmares. But it's like every waking moment, you know,

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like there was there was a point in time where

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I mean it consumed my all my thoughts, like it

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where I couldn't stop thinking about it, Which is really

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surprising that I I didn't really have any nightmares to

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speak of, but but yeah, I mean when I was awake,

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it was definitely on my mind all the time.

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Speaker 2: No, I believe it. Did you get sick of the

474
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:57,319
fact that it was on your mind all the time,

475
00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:01,119
or because you're interested in this whole cryptic topic. Was

476
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,000
that okay with you?

477
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? I got, I got so, I guess, like so

478
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,200
curious that it deeply frustrated me. I'll put it that way,

479
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,160
very deeply frustrated me, because it was just what in

480
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,559
the world was that? Like it just drove me insane

481
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,680
not knowing what it was, and like, you know, where

482
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,119
is it now? And yeah, it was very a little

483
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,000
bit frustrating, But.

484
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: Oh, that's totally natural. You've been living a lie ever

485
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:42,039
since you learned how to understand the spoken word. It's

486
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:44,599
been hammered into your head that things like dog men

487
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,599
can't be out there, they don't exist. So one day,

488
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,440
or more accurately, I should say, one night, you have

489
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,519
an experience, we actually see one of these guys. And

490
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:57,160
then when that happened, it turned all that up on

491
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,440
its ear. If these guys are out there, than what

492
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,240
else might be out there? So the fact that you

493
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:06,240
have been living a lie. It's going to really throw

494
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,240
you for a loop. It's only natural that you're going

495
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,079
to obsess on that the way you have. As long

496
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,440
as you don't let that really negatively affect your life,

497
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:19,359
then it's not that bad of a thing. Which I'm

498
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,559
glad that you didn't let that ruin your life or

499
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,440
even negatively affect your life. Thank goodness for that. But

500
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,519
you know, what you went through totally normal when it

501
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,240
comes to a dog mean an encounter. Now, you don't

502
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400
have to answer this next question if you'd like to

503
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:37,160
then by all means. But again there's no pressure to

504
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,960
What I'm wondering though, is how far do you live

505
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,359
now from where you live back then when you have

506
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,599
that encounter at your friends?

507
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: Now, I still live in the same kind of like

508
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,359
I guess town but not really a town. But I

509
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,240
still live in the same you know, zip code, but

510
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,039
it's a little farther away now, so I'm like seven

511
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:01,759
miles away from where that happened. And but I drive

512
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:03,279
by there, like you know, all the time.

513
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: So do you get goosebumps when you do?

514
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: I do sometimes, especially when you know, I mean I

515
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,680
sometimes you know, not sometimes but this one time, a

516
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,759
couple months ago, I did see some like this was

517
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:21,880
really close to it was maybe a quarter of a

518
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,160
mile from the road that this happened on, and this

519
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,960
like deer that was mangled on the side of the road.

520
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,119
Not by a car, it was obviously not by a car,

521
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,279
but definitely all you you know, the head and the spleen,

522
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,240
and that was pretty much it. And the legs were

523
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,599
over over there somewhere, you know, like a few feet away.

524
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:44,240
Maybe a couple of the legs were still there, I

525
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,359
think two of the legs or something, but everything else

526
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,839
was gone. I mean, the spleen was like pretty clean,

527
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,960
you know, there was a little blood. It was fresh too,

528
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:57,279
because I'd just been on that road. Sometimes I take

529
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,799
two different ways to town, but I take that way often,

530
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,039
and I don't know why, maybe curiosity, I don't know,

531
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:07,160
but I do take that way often. And I was

532
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,799
on that road a couple of days prior and it

533
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,079
wasn't there, So I definitely would have noticed something like

534
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:14,680
that if it was there. But find it funny that

535
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,480
it was just really close to where that was.

536
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:20,799
Speaker 2: He sent me that picture of that dear carcass. Whatever

537
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,279
said in on it did a number on it. They

538
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:28,039
really picked that thing clean. It really did. Now, I

539
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,240
know you want to be anonymous, but I see in

540
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,039
the live chat a few times the listeners have been

541
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:36,240
asking about the location where this happened. Now, there's no

542
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:40,359
pressure to be specific on this whatsoever. But it's up

543
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,599
to you. If you want to reveal a general area

544
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,519
where this encounter happened, have that it. If you don't

545
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:50,200
want to do that, that's totally fine. Again, it's totally

546
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:50,680
up to you.

547
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:58,039
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean, I really, Peyton, Colorado.

548
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,599
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to make sure that you knew

549
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,440
there wasn't any pressure on you for that.

550
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course.

551
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: Okay. Good. You told your mom about your experience, and

552
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,640
when you did, she had some surprising news to share

553
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,480
with you. From what I understand, please talk us through that.

554
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. She actually told me that her and my dad

555
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:27,160
were camping many years ago when and they saw like

556
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,480
this very up She was up in the Rocky mountains

557
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,519
when this happened. But she saw this incredibly like unnatural

558
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,519
and naturally large, large, large dog. She just had the

559
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:43,079
head like she when she was describing it to me,

560
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,400
she like put her hands out like really big. She

561
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200
was just like a head. There was no way, you know,

562
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,400
but it was really really really big and like really

563
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,799
really tall, like but it and she said it was

564
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:57,599
sitting down on its butt. But but sitting down on

565
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,440
its butt. She was like, I think it was probably

566
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:04,160
taller than me. And you know, she got really scared,

567
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,279
like spooked, and you know, she went back to camp.

568
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:11,000
And I don't really know my dad, he's he's really

569
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:16,840
super like a very like even if you slapped him

570
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,599
in the face with something, you know, he would deny it. So,

571
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:22,960
you know, when I asked him about it, he was

572
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,679
just like, yeah, it's just a really big dog, you know.

573
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:27,119
But I don't know. It makes me wonder if it

574
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,280
really was just a really big dog or if it

575
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,679
was you know, because I mean it was in the

576
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,880
middle of the forest, like the middle of the rocky mountains,

577
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,280
like just a dog, just a huge dog, like a

578
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,440
giant dog. That's all she saw though, that it was

579
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:44,639
just sitting down, and then she quickly made her way

580
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,719
back to camp. So what was.

581
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: Going through your mind when she finally told you about

582
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,119
that experience.

583
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,599
Speaker 1: I immediately, I guess I immediately jumped to the you know,

584
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,679
conclusion and of maybe it was not just a dog,

585
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,599
you know, maybe it was a dog man. I don't know.

586
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,079
Speaker 2: Was it relief in a way to find out that

587
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,400
she had had that experience and possibly it was a

588
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,360
dog mean as she saw it. Now, of course, not

589
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,800
everything out there that's a big canid is a dog mean,

590
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,480
but there's a possibility, I guess, a very remote possibility,

591
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:24,480
that's what it was. And with that in mind, was

592
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:26,920
it a relief for you or did it not move

593
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,480
the needle?

594
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: Yes, it was because I really literally thought that she

595
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:35,760
was gonna be like whatever, you know, like are you serious,

596
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,679
or you know, give me a weird look or something,

597
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,519
but like she I think she believed me. And then

598
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:43,320
she mentioned that, and I was just like, I was surprised.

599
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,280
I was like, wow, it's pretty crazy. I try to

600
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,559
get more details from her, but that's all the details

601
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:51,199
she had about that.

602
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,079
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's always something when you have an encounter

603
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:58,239
and you reluctantly reach out to your family members to

604
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,079
share that experience with them and find out that someone

605
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:03,480
in the family has had an experience with what would

606
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:06,280
appear to be one of these guys the way you did.

607
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,519
So yeah, it's funny how it works that way sometimes. Now,

608
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:12,679
before I move on, if you have any questions here

609
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,639
for Randy that you want me to ask, and you're

610
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:17,119
in a live chat, please type it out in all

611
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,400
caps that way I won't miss it. But moving on,

612
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:24,039
now that you told your mom about your experience, has

613
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,320
she expressed an interest in trying to find out more

614
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,199
about dog men? Or was she business as usual and

615
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,280
didn't really have any interest in doing that.

616
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's more of a business as usual.

617
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable. It's not for everyone. I've got a

618
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,599
question for you from Quincy Barry and lots of nice

619
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:50,480
avatar pick there. Quincy wants to know. Has Randy reached

620
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,639
out to anyone in the area to see if anyone

621
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:53,960
else has seen this creature?

622
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: I did actually research. I looked it up on Google.

623
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:02,800
I was I typed in, uh, you know dog Man's

624
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,679
fightings in Peyton, Colorado, but found very little on that.

625
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 2: So well, that goes back to the whole thing that

626
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,760
if one hundred people have a dog man encounter, huh,

627
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,599
probably less than ten are going to come forward with it.

628
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,440
So just because you didn't see anything, as you know,

629
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,320
that doesn't mean anything as far as people in the area,

630
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360
not seeing this guy or other dog men if you

631
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,119
do have other dogmen in the area, So just something

632
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,199
not to lose sight of. This next question is from

633
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,360
Andres Sorez, and Andre wants to know has anyone in

634
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,000
the area gone missing or have been Have there been

635
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:50,280
I think he means have there been reports of other encounters?

636
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,079
Speaker 1: Not that I know of, but but there has been.

637
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,840
There has been a few people missing, not I guess

638
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,360
like sporadic throughout the years, because I mean I've lived

639
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,760
out here forever. But I do know of one teenager

640
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:10,519
like that's I think they were fourteen or something, thirteen

641
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:13,519
or fourteen that went missing a few years ago, and

642
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,400
to my knowledge, they haven't been found yet. But yeah,

643
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,639
occasionally people go missing. Most of the time they're found though,

644
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,840
but there's a few of them I think they haven't been.

645
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: Well. That really is a shame. And of course, just

646
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,039
because people go missing, that doesn't mean that these guys

647
00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:36,559
are responsible for that. I mean, people fall into old

648
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,599
wells and all sorts of other things happen. You never

649
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:42,159
know what might cause someone to go missing.

650
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: But there was a kidnapping not too long ago here. Well, yeah,

651
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,440
kidnapping a little kid that was like seven or something,

652
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,760
but they found the kid like the next day or

653
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,519
something like that. But I don't think that, especially since

654
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:00,960
you said that the other day, I absolutely agree with you,

655
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,079
and I actually, come to think of it, since you

656
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:06,960
had mentioned that, I've realized that, you know, there's way

657
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,760
way higher chance that there's uh that I'll run into

658
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,719
a really scary person human being than I would you know,

659
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,480
a dog man, because all of the you know reports

660
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,280
I've listened to on your show, and like you know,

661
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:27,840
mine and my experience has definitely what you said does

662
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,079
make a lot of sense, where like, yeah, there's bad

663
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:39,119
you know, bad dies in every group of creatures, any

664
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:41,360
type of creature. You know, there's good ones and bad

665
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,760
ones of every you know, every creature out there. But

666
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,639
I think there's probably a lot more you know, bad

667
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:51,360
people out there than there are bad dog men out there.

668
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: Well, I bet you're right about that. Yeah, when you're

669
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,159
out and about in the woods, it's normally the two

670
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,360
legged that you have to worry about, not dog men,

671
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,880
not sasquatch. It's people that normally are what you have

672
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,440
to really watch out for. Sashim. It has to be

673
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:12,519
that way too, can you tell us what the terrain

674
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,639
is like there in that part of Colorado.

675
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's definitely you know, like I said, it's

676
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,320
a lot of like fields and cows and farmland, and

677
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:28,559
you know, there are small patches of like woods here

678
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:31,440
and there. But then again, like we're right down the

679
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:37,039
road from Black Forest, which is let's see, I would

680
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:39,480
have to drive maybe a couple of miles to like

681
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:44,800
probably get to the some real woodsy areas, like maybe

682
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,880
a mile and a half or two miles, you know,

683
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,480
from the edge of black Forest, which is a really sick,

684
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,119
very sick forest. It's pretty big too. But but yeah,

685
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:58,840
where I live and like the surrounding area is just

686
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,559
you know, basically fields and cows and things, you know,

687
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,000
golden fields, hills, a lot of hills.

688
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,079
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about that. It should

689
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,079
have been more specific. I was going to ask you

690
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:14,800
about the topography. If the hills roll pretty steeply up

691
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,239
and down or are they more of a gentle type

692
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,559
rolling hilly.

693
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of steep hills,

694
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,079
like you can't see like really far. You know, if

695
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:29,280
you're usually where you know, wherever you're at out here,

696
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,599
there's usually going to be a hill blocking you from

697
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:36,960
you know, down yonder. You know, there's also some deer

698
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:44,320
out here. There's antelope, lots of antelope, some squirrels like

699
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,639
that kind of wildlife. Yeah, pretty much.

700
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:53,519
Speaker 2: It sounds like my kind of country, it really does.

701
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,880
Let's get to another question from a listener, Christina Easter Day.

702
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,760
Hey Christina, she wants to know, so did the force

703
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,159
go quiet? Thank you for sharing.

704
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: It did right before the growl happened.

705
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,519
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm sure it's not lost on you. That's

706
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:14,679
a pretty common phenomenon when I witness sees one of

707
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,440
these guys, so that's not a surprise. It looks like

708
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,519
the next one is from Space Jerk thirty five and

709
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,639
they want to know, Hi, Vic and Randy, Randy, did

710
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:28,679
you happen to look for tracks or footprints? Thanks?

711
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: I did not. Actually, I was terrified, so me and

712
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:35,880
me and the boys kind of like just slept in

713
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,000
his living room that night. I went home the next day,

714
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,800
you know, pretty much in shock. But when I found

715
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,400
that deer carcass, I did look for tracks around it.

716
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:49,880
And the strange thing is is I found what looked

717
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,599
to be really really deep, like hoof marks, like it

718
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:58,960
looked like the deer was like digging itself into the ground,

719
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,239
like trying to push its way. Like I don't know.

720
00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:04,400
It was really weird. Like I found some really deep

721
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,840
like like as hoofs went really deep into the ground,

722
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,079
but no other tracks around it, and the soil wasn't

723
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:14,679
like super soft or anything, so you know, and it

724
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,719
was right by the roadway.

725
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: So that's really strange. It does make you wonder. Unreal

726
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,719
estate agent double I'm sorry, unreal estate agent zero seven

727
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,400
seven wants to know. Is there anything historic about the land,

728
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:33,960
such as battlefields, tribal burial grounds.

729
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:40,679
Speaker 1: There is, there is some stuff, like especially black Forest

730
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,800
is like famously known for one specific extremely haunted house.

731
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,239
I don't remember the name of the family, but if

732
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,400
you just look up the haunting in black Forest, Colorado,

733
00:43:53,559 --> 00:44:01,000
it'll pop up. But yeah, other than that, nothing that,

734
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,599
like nothing I can think of. But like this area

735
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:07,719
of Colorado in general, for instance, like Manitou Springs, which

736
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,039
is about forty five minutes for me, is like the

737
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:15,480
witch capital of the world. It's really weird. I don't know.

738
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:19,239
There are some very historic areas around here, but not specifically,

739
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,920
like right in the same vicinity that this happened in,

740
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:24,679
but you know close by.

741
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, have that many witches around?

742
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

743
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: Huh, well that's interesting strange, but yeah, that's interesting if

744
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:41,559
you have that many witches around. Is it not uncommon

745
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,519
when you're in the woods to run across people doing

746
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:48,559
satanic rituals and things like that or has that never

747
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:49,119
happened to you?

748
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: That's a really good question. So actually, now that you

749
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,280
mention it, yes, I actually have seen some really strange things.

750
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:05,880
I guess probably about i'd say between where I live

751
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,079
now in between where I saw that on the roadway.

752
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,840
This was years ago. I actually have pictures of this too.

753
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,199
I'm weird. I have a lot of weird pictures because

754
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:16,440
if I see something weird, I usually take pictures of it.

755
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:22,159
But so I there was definitely some like some type

756
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:24,519
of coole activity going on, because what I saw on

757
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,519
the side of the road. That would be the only

758
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:31,079
explanation to explain this. But it was a goat. It

759
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:33,800
was like the head of a goat, and its body

760
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,960
was it had a stripped clean like it was just

761
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:41,840
the like the fur of the body, so like just

762
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,679
the fur, like you know, it was very clean. Whoever

763
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,000
did it did it cleanly, but the head was it

764
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:51,280
still had like the eyeballs, like the sockets you could

765
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,880
see like there were rotting inside the eye sockets, you know,

766
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,320
like it was really weird. The tongue was like sticking out,

767
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,000
and the you know, there was still like remnants of

768
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:03,679
like brain and stuff like that. In the skull. You

769
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,599
could see the partial skull and partial you know, fur

770
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:10,480
and skin remaining. But it was weird. It was almost

771
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,960
like somebody made that to look really really creepy and

772
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,559
then stuck it on their head as like a dress

773
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:18,280
or something like a where you know, I don't know

774
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,880
what you call it, like a head dress or whatever.

775
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:22,360
It was really creepy.

776
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure creepy doesn't do it any justice. Sure

777
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,559
sounds like it is. And it really makes you wonder

778
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:32,559
why anyone want to do something like that. I never

779
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,599
will understand that. I won't. It looks like Danella Eileen

780
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,280
Greneck wants to know, Randy, what about pets going missing?

781
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Not that I could not that I know of. Well, chickens,

782
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,559
like my parents live lived out here too until recently,

783
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:55,119
but yeah, chickens would go missing sometimes, which was a

784
00:46:55,159 --> 00:47:01,119
real bummer. But and you know. I mean, I wouldn't

785
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:03,199
really know, I guess because I don't I don't have

786
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,079
like a whole lot of you know, friends or anything

787
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:07,840
like that. Like I live in the middle of nowhere,

788
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,800
kind of keep to myself. I work every day, but

789
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,440
you know, that's pretty much my interaction with people goes

790
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:16,440
that far, you know, at work. So I don't really

791
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,800
know too many people out here to know that. So

792
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,239
I'm not really one hundred percent sure. But come to

793
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,199
think of it, too, I do see signs a lot

794
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,920
on you know, I see signs that, like you on street,

795
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,840
street signs and stuff like there'll be a taped up

796
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,599
sign of a pet that's missing. Cats, dogs, you know,

797
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,159
I do see that a lot. So yeah, I guess

798
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,519
the answer to that would be, yeah, huh.

799
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: That's interesting again the animals going missing. That doesn't mean

800
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,199
that there is definitely a dog mean in the area.

801
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,440
They can go missing for a lot of reasons. But

802
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:54,480
it is interesting, nonetheless that so many of them have disappeared.

803
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,079
It does make you wonder what's responsible for that. It

804
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:00,599
really does. Now. You said the boys as they go

805
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:03,719
out and they get out and about. But I know

806
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,639
you work all the time, but when you are able

807
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:10,440
to get some time away from work or whatever else

808
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:13,039
you have to do in day to day life, do

809
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,840
you still enjoy yourself and head into the woods and

810
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,360
do this or that, or do you try to stay

811
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,719
out of the woods and not do things like that

812
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,639
even though you haven't been traumatized by your encounter.

813
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: I actually I go outside a lot, I guess, not

814
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,519
necessarily at night. I get creeped out a lot at

815
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:35,880
night for some reason. But I do go out there

816
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,280
at night, especially like sometimes with the boys, I'll go

817
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,519
for a walk with them or something. But but no,

818
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,199
I mean, I love being outside way better than inside,

819
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,039
So especially during the day, like I go outside and

820
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:54,800
catch horny toads and stuff, and you being outside is good.

821
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,599
Speaker 2: Oh definitely. I'm so glad you're able to still go

822
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:02,400
out and do that. That's great, it really is. The

823
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,480
next question for you is from Andre's Sorez, and Andre

824
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,199
wants to know did the dogs have a change in

825
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,000
behavior after the encounter.

826
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: That's also a good question, which which I'd like to know, because,

827
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,440
like like I said, like after that night, maybe talk

828
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:22,920
to him a couple more times, but you know, over

829
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:26,760
like that whole month, maybe three times I spoke with him.

830
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,400
But and I'm really curious as to what happened to

831
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,800
the dogs when he moved, because I I don't I

832
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,760
don't think he took them with him. I don't know

833
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,440
what happened. I don't know where he what he did

834
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,199
with them, if he gave them to somebody or what.

835
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,760
But I really don't know answer to that. Unfortunately, because

836
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,880
anytime that our mutual friend brings it up to him,

837
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,280
or has tried to bring it up to him in

838
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,960
the past, he will shut her down immediately. So he

839
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:56,760
will not he refuses to talk about it. We spoke

840
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,960
about it that night it happened, like to make sure

841
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:00,880
we I was like, did do you see what I saw?

842
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,960
You know type thing? But other than that, he's never

843
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:08,800
spoken to anybody about it. I'm not I'm not exactly

844
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,559
sure why, but.

845
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 2: Sounds like it affected him quite a bit more than

846
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,000
it affected you. So shame man has to be that

847
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:19,639
way that he had such a hard time dealing with it,

848
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:23,639
But yeah, it happened sometimes. This next one is from

849
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,480
unreal estate agent zero seven to seven, and he wants

850
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:30,840
to know, did you notice anything in the immediate area

851
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:36,719
surrounding like a strange gust or strange fog, shadow or

852
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,199
light flashes.

853
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,679
Speaker 1: Not other than the you know abnormally, you know, large

854
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:49,239
amount of activity in the sky, you know, lights wise

855
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,639
like planes, like there were a couple of those lights

856
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:54,920
were planes, And you know, I saw like different colors

857
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,599
of you know, flashing in the sky. Kind of Eh,

858
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,119
that was weird. I've never before, ever since then seen

859
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,360
the sky like have that much activity in it. But

860
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,039
that was, you know, really shortly before this happened. So

861
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,280
I didn't notice anything other than that as far as

862
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,320
that stuff goes.

863
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,039
Speaker 2: Well, Like I said, you can only notice so much.

864
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,320
I think you deserve a lot of credit for noticing

865
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,960
what you did. I really do. The next one is

866
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:26,960
from unreal estate agent zero seven seven again, and they

867
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,239
want to know where its body features. Was the body

868
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,679
structure such as hands and legs shaped like a human?

869
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: You know. I wish I knew the answer to that,

870
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,800
but I don't, because well, neighbors aren't like super close.

871
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,599
But you know, it was let me see, if I

872
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:57,039
were to guess, probably probably about one hundred one hundred

873
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,400
feet or something like that the way and it was

874
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:02,880
really dark house, you know, it was really dark outside.

875
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:05,360
But the neighbor's lit up pathway. You know, it was

876
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,960
like it was pretty lit up. So that's how I

877
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,079
saw silhouette of it. But I definitely did not notice

878
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:13,360
like any close details like that.

879
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 2: Well that's it.

880
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: Definitely had like like behind you know, like the you know,

881
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,119
like the hip of a dog, you know how it's like,

882
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:25,519
you know, well, the hip of a dog. You know.

883
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,719
It definitely had like the hip of a dog and

884
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,400
the you know, structured body. Like if it was just

885
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,119
kept on running, like without going up on two feet,

886
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,000
I would have just I would have talked it up

887
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,599
to like a really big dog, you know, running up

888
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:43,000
the pathway. But since it did that really weird standing

889
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:46,960
up on two feet in mid stride thing, definitely, uh

890
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,599
was not just a normal dog.

891
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it. They also want to know,

892
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,360
did you notice any eye glow and if so, what color.

893
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:03,119
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. It was a side view of it,

894
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,000
you know, just the silhouette of it, but the side

895
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:09,639
it was just the side of it, So I didn't

896
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:11,679
see any eyes or anything like that.

897
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: Well that's a lot better than it turning and steering

898
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:20,760
you down. Yeah, yeah, we'll play the clad game there.

899
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,840
It looks like Kellyan wants to know how tall was

900
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,599
the dog man.

901
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,679
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like I have driven by their,

902
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,800
you know, to like kind of estimates, like you know,

903
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,320
during the daytime and stuff like years afterwards. But I've

904
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,840
driven by there a few different times to like, you know,

905
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,079
like Okay, well here's where I was and there's where

906
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:49,159
I saw it, and like, you know, I've tried to

907
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,719
like measure it in my head like that. But you know,

908
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,840
I really, I guess couldn't give you a it didn't

909
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,400
it definitely. I can say that a lot of the

910
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,239
description that I've heard of it being like like eight

911
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,440
or nine feet tall or something. I don't believe it

912
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,119
was like that. But you know, if I were to

913
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:12,920
go by those descriptions, I would probably guess this probably

914
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,159
was like a teenager or something, because it wasn't like, no,

915
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,800
eight or nine foot tall, I don't think, but it

916
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,639
was definitely I would say, so I'm five to three.

917
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,079
It was bigger than me. It was taller than me,

918
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,400
for sure, but I don't know exactly how much taller.

919
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,039
It's a bummer that it was. Well, no, it was

920
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,199
a bummer and not at the same time, because you know.

921
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,960
All I did see was a silhouette of it from

922
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,119
the side view, and it was, you know, a little

923
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:45,880
bit of a distance away. But you know that's a

924
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,840
good and bad thing. I'm curious too.

925
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 2: Well, you see something like that that's not supposed to exist,

926
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,000
it's only naturally you're going to be really curious about it.

927
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,599
You want to know all you can about it. So yeah,

928
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:03,159
that's totally normal. Is now to be thorough. I'm going

929
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,280
to ask you this next question. You don't have to

930
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,559
answer it if you don't want to, but I'm wondering

931
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,880
again if you're willing to answer this. Have you ever

932
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,920
played with a Wigi board at any point of your life?

933
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:19,519
Speaker 1: No, I've I've never. I've always been really like, way

934
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:23,559
too scared to do something like that. But my grandma

935
00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:28,239
on on my dad's side, was like, I supposedly a

936
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,199
witch and she had a Wiji board. But I have

937
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,639
never personally played with a Wigi board. Nope.

938
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 2: Well that's a good thing. Glad you never did. It

939
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,960
looks like Congress Sores wants to know. Did it seem

940
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:41,880
to be aware of you?

941
00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, definitely, especially when I heard that growl. I

942
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,519
don't like I felt like that was intended for not

943
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:56,559
just me but us, Like you know this, it was

944
00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:03,239
literally coming from everywhere. So yeah, I definitely know. I

945
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,199
know for a fact it was definitely aware of us.

946
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, after you pulled up the way you two did,

947
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,519
I can't see how it wouldn't have been aware of you.

948
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:14,360
But that is a good question nonetheless. Still, the next

949
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,400
one is from Angel Wake An Angel wants to know

950
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,519
was the dog Man in a totally totally solid form

951
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:28,840
when it ran with four legs up to just two legs.

952
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you mean by that, but it was. Yeah,

953
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:35,239
it was definitely solid.

954
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what she wants to know is sometimes

955
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:42,400
when people see dog Man, not all that often, but

956
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:45,719
sometimes when they see dog mean the report kind of

957
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,320
an ethereal appearance to them. You can see through them.

958
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,079
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was solid. It was like the silhouette

959
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:55,320
of it was black, you.

960
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: Know, Okay, I see. Yeah, that's how it normally is.

961
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:04,360
That's the most common color, and most eyewitnesses report that

962
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,800
they're solid in appearance when they see them. The next

963
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,679
question for you is from unreal estate Agents zero seven seven,

964
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,039
and they want to know could you tell if it's

965
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:18,840
fur or hair seemed more dark or light? And could

966
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,800
you tell if its head seemed more wolf like or

967
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,000
dog like or both. Now you just said sounds like

968
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:27,599
you just said that it was kind of a blackish color,

969
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,480
so I think you already answered that part of the

970
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:30,360
question for us.

971
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:35,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the head, like I, like I said, it was,

972
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,920
you know, I really for some reason at the time

973
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,239
in my mind, I was, you know, and this was

974
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,039
like I didn't even know dogmen existed. I was just like,

975
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:48,000
oh my gosh, were wolf like. But the way it

976
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:51,400
looked to me was like a really long haired and

977
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:56,679
long greyhound. And you know, I could have chalked that

978
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,159
up to be like looking like that because of how

979
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:03,039
fast it was run Like, I mean, it was running fast,

980
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:06,440
you know, on fore legs and mid stride stood up

981
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,719
on two. So you know, maybe I associated it with

982
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,320
a grayhound because they race. I'm not sure. But I

983
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:15,320
didn't really notice too many details of like the shape

984
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,079
of the head. But I do know that, like like

985
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:24,239
the jaw area had longer or bushier hair than you know,

986
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,280
anywhere else on it. I did notice that, Yeah, it

987
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,719
was really fast, and it happened so fast, you know,

988
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:34,840
it's hard to say, I don't really remember the details

989
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,880
of like the shape of the head. Unfortunately, I wish

990
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:37,199
I did.

991
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's all right, I'm impressed by what you did

992
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,239
notice and what you can tell us about. This next

993
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,400
question is from Bug and they want to know are

994
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,639
you worried it might come back and thought of safety

995
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:53,199
situations when your boys go on their walks.

996
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, so I think about that all the time.

997
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,000
But you know, I definitely always make sure that they

998
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,280
have something on them, you know, to protect themselves with.

999
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:08,360
And you know, but they're teenagers, so I can't just

1000
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,360
like imprison them in the house, you know all the time.

1001
00:59:11,519 --> 00:59:15,320
I have to not let my fears affect them. It's

1002
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,800
you know, been hard to kind of let go, but

1003
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,719
I have a little bit, you know, but they you know,

1004
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:25,239
especially when you explain that the other day, that was

1005
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,639
really good advice of you know, what to do if

1006
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:31,239
you did encounter when you know, and just you are

1007
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:35,039
absolutely right that there's you know, it definitely could have

1008
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:38,559
killed us that night. So you know, I'm definitely a

1009
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:41,440
lot more worried about another human being, you know, out

1010
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,960
there hurting my kids than a dog man.

1011
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,119
Speaker 2: It's important to understand too, that it could have killed

1012
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:49,800
you any time you were in the area where it

1013
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,519
was around, whether you're inside the house or not. Now,

1014
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:55,199
I know you realize that, but it's so easy to

1015
00:59:55,239 --> 00:59:57,440
lose sight of that fact. I just want to hammer

1016
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,599
home that fact, not to the point to give you

1017
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:02,440
a nightmare or anything like that, but that's really a

1018
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,559
positive thing. You've been around it as much as you have,

1019
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:09,320
and you haven't had any trouble. It's never tried to

1020
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,519
harm you. So that's something, like I told you in

1021
01:00:11,519 --> 01:00:14,599
the first conversation, that I hope you never forget and

1022
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:17,880
you never lose sight of it. Looks like the next

1023
01:00:18,039 --> 01:00:22,679
question is from unreal estate agent zero seven to seven.

1024
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,800
He wants to know did its mouth ever hang open,

1025
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,400
showing teeth almost as if it was smiling or sneering.

1026
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:35,639
Speaker 1: No, I didn't notice any details like that. It never

1027
01:00:35,679 --> 01:00:37,639
turned its head towards me or anything like that either,

1028
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,800
so well, at least not from what I saw. Like

1029
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,599
I don't know where I have no clue where it

1030
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:47,119
was when it did that really weird, long deep growl.

1031
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:52,960
But yeah, when I saw it though, like when I

1032
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:55,079
was when it was in my vision, it did not

1033
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,840
look at me or I didn't notice anything like that.

1034
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's all right. You only can notice what you

1035
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,719
can notice, So no harm, no foul on that it

1036
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,519
looks like. The next question is from Glenn Kamada, and

1037
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:13,679
Glenn wants to know, being that it was well groomed,

1038
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:18,440
did you notice any odors? Thank you?

1039
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,239
Speaker 1: No, I didn't actually notice any odors.

1040
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:25,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, from the distance it was away from you, I

1041
01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:29,480
didn't think you would have. The next one is from

1042
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:32,760
Mangel Waite and she wants to know when you heard

1043
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,679
the growling all around you, did you feel it in

1044
01:01:35,719 --> 01:01:36,320
your body?

1045
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,199
Speaker 1: Yeah? I did. It was yeah, like I said, coming

1046
01:01:42,239 --> 01:01:45,960
from like everywhere, and yeah, it was like a basie.

1047
01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:51,920
You know, it's hard to describe it, it really is.

1048
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:57,320
That was like that part of it was really terrifying,

1049
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,320
you know, and that was definitely something I'll never forget.

1050
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,519
And the lengths of time that it did that was

1051
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,639
way longer than you would think that it, you know,

1052
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:09,840
should have been possible. I mean, it was a really long,

1053
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:15,800
you know, drawn out, very strange growl. Yeah. I definitely

1054
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,559
could feel it in my bones, and it did sound

1055
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:21,039
like it was coming from all over with no way

1056
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:22,159
to pinpoint where from.

1057
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:26,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it wanted to get your attention,

1058
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:31,360
then get your attention. That did understandably. So looks like

1059
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,800
the last question I'm going to throw you as from

1060
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,639
unreal estate agent, and they want to know where its

1061
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:41,400
ears pointy and on top of its head, you know.

1062
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:45,639
Speaker 1: I try to remember like details like that too, and

1063
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:48,119
I know that it had like dog ears, you know,

1064
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:50,519
And I want to say, yeah, they're on the top

1065
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:54,000
of the head. I just in my moment I think

1066
01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:56,880
back to that memory. I can't like picture that part

1067
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,840
of it in my head though, But but yeah, so

1068
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:02,599
I guess I'm not one hundred percent sure.

1069
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's all right. Like I said, you can only

1070
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,280
notice so much, especially when your brains are running out

1071
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,079
your ears the way it normally happens when you see

1072
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:17,239
one of these guys. So yeah, like I said, also,

1073
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,239
you can't be faulted for that. You really can't. Well,

1074
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,079
before we get out of here, Randy, do you have

1075
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:24,119
any clothes in comments you want to put out there for.

1076
01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:29,679
Speaker 1: Us, Probably, but nothing I can think of right now

1077
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:30,239
at the moment.

1078
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,239
Speaker 2: That's all right. Now. We just appreciate you coming on

1079
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,519
and sharing the details of that experience with this.

1080
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: We really do, and thanks for having me on.

1081
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome. And like I told you before, if

1082
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,280
I can never help you in the future, if you

1083
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,440
need help or anything like that, just let me know

1084
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:49,199
and of course I'll be there for you.

1085
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:52,039
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that.

1086
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,199
Speaker 2: Oh, you're welcome, glad to do it.

1087
01:03:55,639 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: Well.

1088
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,239
Speaker 2: Having said that, thanks against so much for your time

1089
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,800
and have a great night.

1090
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:01,639
Speaker 1: Me too.

1091
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: Thanks, we'll see ya. Well, that's it for another show.

1092
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,719
It's in the books. Before I get out of here,

1093
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,840
two things don't forget. Every Friday night, at nine pm

1094
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,360
Eastern time, I released a new episode of my new

1095
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,079
Dogmian podcast called dog Mean Tales. Dog Me and Tails

1096
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:23,320
is available. However, you listen to podcasts except for YouTube,

1097
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,360
so please keep that in mind when you try to

1098
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,719
find it, and when you do use your favorite podcast

1099
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,280
app or however you listen to podcasts, including iHeartRadio. The

1100
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:39,719
last name Tales is spelled t A l Ees. It's

1101
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,159
not spelled t A I l s, so please keep

1102
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:48,280
that in mind t A l e s. But before

1103
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,239
we get out of here, if you've had a dogman

1104
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,199
encounter that you either need help with or maybe you

1105
01:04:53,239 --> 01:04:55,280
want to come on and share it. With the listeners,

1106
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:59,159
Please go to Dogmanancounters dot com and submit a report.

1107
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,400
If you do that, then I'll contact you to schedule

1108
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,559
a phone consultation and then we'll take it from there.

1109
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,519
But of course, thanks as so much as always for

1110
01:05:09,639 --> 01:05:12,639
listening to the show. I really appreciate it, and have

1111
01:05:12,719 --> 01:05:26,440
a great night.