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<v Speaker 1>So this particular seminar is devoted to the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>flow and its relation to meditation. And therefore I have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk first about certain characteristics of energy, because this

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<v Speaker 1>world is energy E equals mc squared, and if there

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing except energy, we cannot of course say what

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<v Speaker 1>energy is, because if everything is energy, then there is

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<v Speaker 1>no class of events or things outside energy, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can only describe something that you can put into a class,

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<v Speaker 1>that is to say, something that you can put into

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<v Speaker 1>an intellectual box. But although you can't describe energy, or

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even describe reality, every body knows perfectly well

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. You simply feel it, and you feel

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<v Speaker 1>energy in terms of a multiplicity of vibrations. And those

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<v Speaker 1>vibrations can of course be measured as we measure light, sound, heat, weight,

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. But we cannot experience all the vibrations

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<v Speaker 1>of energy at the same time. That would be the

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<v Speaker 1>same sort of confusion as if you slam down all

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<v Speaker 1>the notes on the piano at once, or plucked all

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<v Speaker 1>the strings of a harp at.

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<v Speaker 2>The same time.

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<v Speaker 1>What we do, therefore, is we select. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>our senses are selective. The eye does not record the

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<v Speaker 1>whole spectrum of light vibrations. The ear does not receive

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<v Speaker 1>the whole spectrum of sound vibrations. They restrict themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>a narrow band, and beyond that we select in various

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<v Speaker 1>other ways. There are certain vibrations which we consider noteworthy

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<v Speaker 1>and important and worth paying attention to, and others which

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<v Speaker 1>we overlook as being insignificant and unimportant and us A

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<v Speaker 1>child will very often select experiences that adults deem ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>because a child has not yet been taught how to

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<v Speaker 1>select according to our preconceived notions of what should be

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<v Speaker 1>picked out. And so children will cherish rubbish, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>which adults think should be thrown away. They will notice

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<v Speaker 1>features of people faces which are not supposed to be noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>They will do all lots of funny things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And furthermore, a child will be taught which of these

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<v Speaker 1>vibrations are good and which are bad, and the bad

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<v Speaker 1>ones are of course to be avoided if possible, but

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<v Speaker 1>inevitably they come up, because if you have a good

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<v Speaker 1>bad valuation of these various spectra, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have the good end of the spectrum, you also got

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<v Speaker 1>to have the bad end, no matter how far you

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<v Speaker 1>succeed in making life comfortable and pleasurable. You are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at it with a scale, and at this end of

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<v Speaker 1>the scale are the things called good. Therefore, at this

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<v Speaker 1>end of the scale things called bad. Now, you may

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<v Speaker 1>push the scale in the direction of good, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's always going to be a bad end, because

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be a good end if there weren't a

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<v Speaker 1>bad end. Sometimes we feel the scale is going this way,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we say things are getting worse and worse,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the way the scale's moving.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's always the good end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that when you're starving in a concentration camp, there

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<v Speaker 1>are always certain events to which you look forward and

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<v Speaker 1>which sort of brighten things up. You simply cannot have

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<v Speaker 1>a continuous experience of life in which everything is completely bad,

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<v Speaker 1>or an experience of life in which everything is completely good.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are under the illusion that that could be arranged,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gives us a great deal of trouble being

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<v Speaker 1>under that illusion. Anyhow, it makes sense, Indeed, in a

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<v Speaker 1>very literal sense, it makes sense that we should be selective.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in the same way as where we play the

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<v Speaker 1>piano or play the harp, we pick out all these

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<v Speaker 1>vibrations in different orders, and that's the fun of it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the game of existence. However, you can get hung

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<v Speaker 1>up on your game. You can get into a fixed,

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<v Speaker 1>rigid feeling that those vibrations which you were taught to

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<v Speaker 1>select when you were a child, and that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>you find out how to select, it's what people tell you. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get hung up onto the idea that that way

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<v Speaker 1>of selecting things is the way, and that there are

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<v Speaker 1>not possible alternatives. And furthermore, that you could get into

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<v Speaker 1>a state of consciousness where you could experience all vibrations

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<v Speaker 1>simply as vibrations and not deem them either good or bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And that would be the point of view which Buddhists

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<v Speaker 1>speak of as seeing the suchness of things.

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<v Speaker 2>That is zen is to dig.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever vibration happens and feel it simply as something going.

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<v Speaker 1>When we are little babies, we don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>interpret these vibrations because the world is something like.

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<v Speaker 2>A raw schap plot.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a wiggly patterning of energy, and the energy

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<v Speaker 1>is the same as the patterning. There is no kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff called energy which is formed into patterns. Just

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<v Speaker 1>there's no kind of stuff called matter which is formed

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<v Speaker 1>into things. The things the shapes are the matter you

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<v Speaker 1>see matter simply. The word matter is the same as

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<v Speaker 1>the word meter. Does it matter? Does it amount to anything?

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<v Speaker 1>That is to say, is it solid? We say something

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<v Speaker 1>solid really amounts to something because you can't shove your

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<v Speaker 1>finger through it, and it might shove itself through you.

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<v Speaker 1>That matters. I mean, it measures up. It's important. But

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't made of some kind of stuff. It's simply

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<v Speaker 1>an intense concentration of energy, and it always is on

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<v Speaker 1>the move. Everything is flux. Like you see a candle

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<v Speaker 1>burning and you say there's a flame. Now, a flame

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<v Speaker 1>is a noun, but if I say the candle is burning,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using a verb, and that's a little bit I

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<v Speaker 1>think more accurate. Because the flame is a stream of

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<v Speaker 1>hot gas, and it moves with tremendous rapidity, so there

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<v Speaker 1>is no as it were, gas permanently in the flame.

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<v Speaker 1>It keeps running, but the shape stays for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>In the same way, an eddy or whirlpool in water

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<v Speaker 1>may stay constantly in the same place in a stream

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<v Speaker 1>for years, although the water is passing through it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. But every time we come back and sit

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<v Speaker 1>on that particular bank of the stream, we see the

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<v Speaker 1>same old whirlpool as in the near Niagara Falls. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we are just the same as that. We are like flames,

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<v Speaker 1>like whirlpools, and we are a stream, a very complex stream,

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<v Speaker 1>consisting not only our electrical energy, which constitutes our nuclear shapes,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are also a stream of water, milk, cereal vegetables, leaf, steak, medicine, vitamins, heat,

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic rays. Heaven only knows all these things are pouring

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<v Speaker 1>through us all the time. But we recognize each other

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<v Speaker 1>because the way in which it's playing, the way in

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<v Speaker 1>which this energy is dancing, keeps a fairly consistent form,

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<v Speaker 1>and we recognize those forms, and we say John Doe,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>But eventually, of course it gives out the form does

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<v Speaker 2>what we call get old.

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<v Speaker 1>Although we have ideas about that. You see, again, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the way we've been brainwashed, we say, well, getting

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<v Speaker 1>old isn't so good, but it's very beautiful. If you

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<v Speaker 1>get your head right, that's a very grand.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You can completely readjust your thinking about this, just as

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<v Speaker 1>we accept the beautifully colored leaves in autumn, and as

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<v Speaker 1>we say we like a well aged whiskey or a

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<v Speaker 1>mature cheese. See, it's all the same kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So then.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been brainwashed into certain fixed opinions or life long,

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<v Speaker 1>there is some importance perhaps into becoming more flexible, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when a certain set of opinions that we call a

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<v Speaker 1>culture or a way of life shows clear evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>not working or of criminy. We're in that situation today,

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<v Speaker 1>the situation where we see that the view of the

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<v Speaker 1>universe which is fundamental to Western civilization, the Jewish picture

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, the Christian picture the world, even the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century materialistic picture of the world, all these things

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<v Speaker 1>are not working. And people get terribly anxious when their

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<v Speaker 1>basic view of how you should play the harp of

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<v Speaker 1>life is not holding up. And therefore, under such circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>we have to readjust our consciousness and reset and find

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps a new way of plucking the strings or of

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<v Speaker 1>structuring the world. But in order to do that, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to pass through an intermediate state.

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<v Speaker 2>In which we.

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<v Speaker 1>Learn to experience the vibrations without putting values on them,

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing them without describing them, naming them, or trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fit them into some system of concepts good and bad,

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<v Speaker 1>high class and low class, refined or crude or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy or sick. We have to take right off all

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<v Speaker 1>this thing and learn to have what is called in

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<v Speaker 1>zen moushin, meaning no mind.

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<v Speaker 2>That means not no.

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<v Speaker 1>Consciousness, but no conceptions, no fixed ideas, no one sided

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<v Speaker 1>view of things. It's really easy to do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to try and make it difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>People are.

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<v Speaker 1>Compulsively complicated, and so you might say in an inverse way,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a certain difficulty in not the becoming compulsively complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>because that requires a certain kind of intelligence, not what

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<v Speaker 1>we call intellectuality in the ordinary way, not verbal intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not the only kind of intelligence. It requires

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<v Speaker 1>organic intelligence. And that's the intelligence that you have in

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<v Speaker 1>your organism that is responsible for your fantastically beautiful nervous system,

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<v Speaker 1>or your veins, or your elementary tract or your glands,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the color of your eyes. But we are

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<v Speaker 1>not ordinarily aware of being in any way responsible for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something that seems to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>To us, just as for example, we always think of

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<v Speaker 3>gravity as something that just happens and on the whole

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<v Speaker 3>is not a very good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way, mankind has been engaged in a struggle

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<v Speaker 1>against gravity. He thinks the bird. He looks at the

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<v Speaker 1>bird with envy, and tries to conquer the sky, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>by fosse of some kind, to get up into the air.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in aeronautical theory, we don't yet know how

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<v Speaker 1>bees fly. Bees theoretically can't fly, but they do. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for the magnificent flight of birds and bees

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<v Speaker 1>is that they are not fighting gravity, because actually everything

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<v Speaker 1>in this universe is falling.

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<v Speaker 2>The Earth is falling, but it falls in a circle.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sun is fall and it falls around some other

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<v Speaker 1>star way way off. Every object is moving because it's

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<v Speaker 1>falling responding to gravity. And gravity is the nature of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy is gravity because energy invariably takes the line of

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<v Speaker 1>least resistance. When you experience using energy not taking the

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<v Speaker 1>line of least resistance, you are not really using energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You are using force. And force and energy are different.

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<v Speaker 1>Force is the unintelligent use of energy. It is not

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<v Speaker 1>following the easy cause. As so, when you force a

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<v Speaker 1>key in a lock, you're liable to bend the key

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<v Speaker 1>or break the lock.

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<v Speaker 2>It does no good.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes, indeed, yes we use strength. But there's a funny

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<v Speaker 1>little old man. Some of you know called Suzuki Roshi,

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<v Speaker 1>who amazes very strong young men at his ability to

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<v Speaker 1>move rocks, and they swear he moves them by leaning

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<v Speaker 1>on them. It's uncanny what he does when he works

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<v Speaker 1>in the building the garden at Tasahara. That's judo, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>and zen very often involves the study of j judo,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the gentle way of finding out how the rock

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<v Speaker 1>will respond to gravity and helping it along those lines

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<v Speaker 1>with your own gravity. That is to say, with your

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<v Speaker 1>weight you use muscle, you see very sparingly, but you

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<v Speaker 1>use your weight in the right place, and that moves

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of things. So in life, in all one's doings,

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<v Speaker 1>have the sense of that everything you do is falling.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when you are climbing the stairs, you are falling up.

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<v Speaker 1>And you will discover a very interesting thing that people

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<v Speaker 1>who know this in a natural way. People who haven't

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<v Speaker 2>Babies know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of our American Indians know this, and you will discover,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, they don't make a noise when they walk.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people when they walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>They must be something wrong with him, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>walked like that in a forest, everything would run away

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<v Speaker 2>or run after you or something. You'd believe they'd know

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<v Speaker 1>And in the forest, you must be anonymous. You must

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<v Speaker 1>be one with the forest. So it instead of the

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<v Speaker 1>expert in Taoism entering the forest, he does not disturb

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<v Speaker 1>a blade of grass. Entering the water, he doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>a ripple. And you can watch some of those south

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<v Speaker 1>Sea island swimmers dive. They seem to go into the

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<v Speaker 1>water like a knife, making no splash. You see, we

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<v Speaker 1>like when we die, you know, shop on the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the spring water, go zooming up and then flip

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<v Speaker 2>The great commotion all over the place. They just fall.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just cut the water. So they are following the

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<v Speaker 1>line of least resistance. Now the thing, the warning here

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<v Speaker 1>of following the line of least resistance, what would it

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<v Speaker 2>We have a notion in our minds that that would

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<v Speaker 2>mean becoming.

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<v Speaker 1>Droopy, improvident, feckless, or as we would say, behaving like

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<v Speaker 1>an animal. Well, now animals are much better behaved than

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<v Speaker 2>We are the.

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<v Speaker 1>World's greatest predators. Even sharks don't fly out of the

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<v Speaker 1>water to heat does or catch birds. They stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the water. And if you really observe animal behavior, you

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<v Speaker 1>will see that although they have fights, and although they

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<v Speaker 1>eat other things like we do, they are very, very

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<v Speaker 1>orderly in their behavior. And there are very few species

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<v Speaker 1>of animals which practice torture on their own species, very few.

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<v Speaker 1>But human beings are impossible. They are so fouled up

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<v Speaker 1>by the confusion of their concepts with their organic life,

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<v Speaker 1>which never can come to any reason, because you cannot,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, arrange a compromise between black and white, and

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<v Speaker 2>In nature.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no black and there is no white. There

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<v Speaker 1>are colors, and both the black and the white worlds

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<v Speaker 1>are discolored worlds. So the line of least resistance Lautsa

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<v Speaker 1>says of water, water seeks the low level which men abhor.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing in the world is weaker than water, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>it can overcome the hardest things. And when you watch

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<v Speaker 1>water flowing over dry ground, you see it moving along,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it suddenly puts out a lot of finger

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<v Speaker 1>and then only one of those fingers continues, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>found out it's feeling out the path, and it gradually

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<v Speaker 1>goes down and down, and if it gets into a

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<v Speaker 1>place where it forms into a pool, it waits there

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<v Speaker 1>and then it rises, and then it finds a place

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<v Speaker 1>where it can go over and it goes on. So

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<v Speaker 1>the use of energy is the same. That then is

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<v Speaker 1>a secret in the art of meditation, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't force things. You don't try to meditate, because

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<v Speaker 1>what meditation consists of, essentially, is being aware without conceptualizing.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, learning to get rid of the verbal

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<v Speaker 1>chatter that goes on constantly inside one's head, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I call thinking temporarily stop that. It isn't that thinking

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<v Speaker 1>is bad. It's only that thinking all the time is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be like talking all the time and never

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<v Speaker 1>listening to anyone else. So the problem for many people,

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<v Speaker 1>you see, is how to stop thinking, because it's become

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<v Speaker 1>a habit. It's a nervous quick to think all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we create endless problems by doing this. Because

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<v Speaker 1>people who have various miseries, they lie awake nights thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about them. That means they are chattering to themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Over and over and over and over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>Again about their problems and don't know how to stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the course of this weekend, we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to explore experimentally various ways of me enabling our awareness

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<v Speaker 1>or our minds to be quiet. You know, Tim Leary

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<v Speaker 1>made the famous remark that to come to your senses,

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<v Speaker 1>you must go out of your mind, where mind means

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<v Speaker 1>certain fixed thought patterns, certain fixed valuations of how one

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<v Speaker 1>ought to select experience. And Ronald Lang, in his book

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<v Speaker 1>The Politics of Experience, has pointed out that we have

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<v Speaker 1>an etiquette concerning what experiences are legitimate in just the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that we have an etiquette as to what

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<v Speaker 1>gestures are legitimate. You know, you're not supposed to put

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<v Speaker 1>out your tongue with people, except in Tibet. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>remark of respect. You're not disposed to cock a snoop

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<v Speaker 1>at people. You're not supposed to be what they call

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<v Speaker 1>an exhibitionist. You're not supposed to do all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>things that are taboo gestures. See.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in exactly the same way, there are taboo experiences

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<v Speaker 2>which you really aren't allowed to have. And if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Start having tabo experiences, they're going to put you in

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<v Speaker 1>the nuthouse. They're going to call you a.

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<v Speaker 2>Schizophrenic, a psychotic, a paranoid, a psychopath, and all sorts.

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<v Speaker 1>Of bad names, because you see, these are the new,

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<v Speaker 1>up to date forms of heresy.

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<v Speaker 2>And just as a heresy was a taboo form of

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<v Speaker 2>religious belief at.

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<v Speaker 1>One time, nobody takes religion seriously today, so we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the inquisition anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>The not having an po is a function of not

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<v Speaker 1>taking religion seriously. If we did take it seriously, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>have an inquisition because we would think it was terribly

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<v Speaker 1>important that we saved people from going to hell, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the kind of religion in which you have heaven

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<v Speaker 1>and hell. So today though, what we take seriously is

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<v Speaker 1>people's psychiatric state. See, so you can, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>be imprisoned without due process of law, confined under unspeakable circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>and literally torture for your own good, just as the

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<v Speaker 1>inquisitors of the Catholic Church tortured heretics for their own good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same old thing all over again, only it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps changing its place in the spectrum, you see, so

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<v Speaker 1>that we suddenly are unaware where we are doing things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, So we are watching the beginnings of a

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<v Speaker 1>psychiatric revolution represented by people like Thomas Sass Ronald Lang,

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<v Speaker 1>ask for due rights for the so called insane. Just

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<v Speaker 1>as earlier in history the Protestants and religious libertarians were

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<v Speaker 1>asking for due rights for freedom of religion, we will

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<v Speaker 1>need a new magne carta for freedom of consciousness. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course all the brue haha going on about psychedelic

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<v Speaker 1>chemicals and marijuana and so on is a religious fight.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all the same kind of thing as quarrels that

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<v Speaker 1>we had in the past over sacraments, who had the

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<v Speaker 1>true sacrament, whether this Catholic formula was the right way

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<v Speaker 1>of transforming the sacrament, or whether the Protestant formula wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just as good, and all that kind of thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all happening all over again, and it's just wonderful to

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<v Speaker 1>see the repetitious patterns in man's history, sometimes rather depressing

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<v Speaker 1>too so.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, in meditation, the real art of.

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<v Speaker 1>It is to be free from concepts, but that implies

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<v Speaker 1>something else. Very difficult for Americans to understand that you

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<v Speaker 1>are not meditating when you are meditating for a purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're doing it because you think it's good for you,

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<v Speaker 1>because you think you're going to improve yourself. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>improve yourself or anybody else for that matter, just as

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<v Speaker 1>you can't lift yourself up by your own bootstrap.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you give up trying to improve yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all that energy available for things that can

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<v Speaker 1>actually be done. So when there's no thought about self improvement,

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<v Speaker 1>about going somewhere, about achieving a different state of consciousness,

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<v Speaker 1>but being simply here, that's the only place you can be, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you remember the past, your memories are present experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>When you anticipate the future, your anticipations are present experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nowhere else to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's your hurry?

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<v Speaker 2>So the art of meditation is essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Relaxing the verbal commentary on the world that constantly goes

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<v Speaker 1>on coming to center, which is the present or coming

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<v Speaker 1>to center in the sense that gravity teaches you to

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<v Speaker 1>center yourself. Am of the windows here, he was asked,

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<v Speaker 1>why do Tibetan but it's his prayer wheels. Isn't that superstition?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, no, this is a method of center.

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<v Speaker 1>This little ball on the end of a chain revolves

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<v Speaker 1>around the prayer wheel, just in the same way as

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth goes around the sun. And when you get

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<v Speaker 1>the neck of getting this thing going and keeping to that,

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<v Speaker 1>it does things to me. You don't have to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's a kinesthetic experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And you just keep it moving. Tlok.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise, the one wind, the prayer tape in the center. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't prayers. It's a sutra. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>set of montrums, or of symbolic sounds, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you can keep us going in the day. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a gas because of what it does to your consciousness.
