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Speaker 3: All right, well, Carlin, pretend like you have notes. Who
goes home?
Speaker 4: I know that. I know that Dario did the last week.
Speaker 2: On It looked like he was sleeping on a raft.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I don't like.
Speaker 3: I like these I don't like these intros were they're
acting like they're where they're having to be like actors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that. I think it's weird, but
real quick, tangent, I sent you guys a thing I
was I don't remember if I texted it to you
or if I send it to you on Instagram. Mister Brad,
I don't know what the fuck he did. I don't
know if it's just the haircut or what. But Brad
looks like Dario and it's weird as fuck it is.
It works for him.
Speaker 3: Looks good, My boy looks good.
Speaker 4: No, he doesn't.
Speaker 3: He's looking good. He's looking real.
Speaker 4: I mean maybe maybe in some other thing, but he
looks like Dario, and it's not.
Speaker 3: Okay, hang on the better worse than the beard?
Speaker 4: Worse?
Speaker 3: Really do worse than the beard?
Speaker 4: I don't like Dario.
Speaker 3: Zach's with me Zactus in the room right now and
says he likes clean cut bread. I do too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Zach sounds like his vocal cords are trying
to rebel. So he is not.
Speaker 2: On the show with he was on the pre show,
he's not on the actual show for the after show.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So we start off and there's I remember there. There
there's lots of talk of who they is. There's lots
of people throwing around who it might be. Some people
think that it's frank. Other people think I think that it's.
Speaker 3: Plot. I know it was. I think this is and
I actually like this. I actually like this.
Speaker 4: I you know, I I didn't actually mind it.
Speaker 3: Thanks, but let's let's let's talk. Get on the same page. Zach.
You chime in here too. Who is they? Who? Who
do you all think it really is who's starting.
Speaker 4: It started off as Veronica. It was absolutely they could
have begin with.
Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent Veronica, right, definitely, but.
Speaker 4: Spoilers Frank at the end of the episode says that
it's him. I think that it has changed to Frank.
I think that Frank also kind of fits that category.
But the they that they were talking about last week
was absolutely Veronica.
Speaker 3: I think that's what I'm saying too. I have note
like Frank is absolutely pulling strings behind the scenes and
using things as advantage of manipulating whatever, but he's not
they in this in the way that they're talking about it,
it's Veronica. Like, it's absolutely Veronica. It's what it seems clear,
and it's like Frank trying to steal it seems weird.
I don't know that seems weird.
Speaker 4: Well, what I mean it makes sense to me, like
he he wants the notoriety. He wants to be able
to say like, oh, yeah, you know, this was all
my master plan. But you know, if we'll get into
that later. Uh yeah. So there's lots of talk of
who is they. You know, Dario and Ashley are wondering
who flipped the vote and got them sent in last
week versus you know other I don't even remember who
went in there, who was talked about last week?
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 4: God damn. Doing this without notes is like, I literally
I brain. I dumped my entire brain into my notes
and I don't remember ship now.
Speaker 3: Uh see, computers will ruin us by making us think
the prepared Chris, what happened next? Chris in the chat room?
Help us out?
Speaker 4: Somebody summarized the show for there is a lot of
peanut butteron Nicole and Melissa in this episode. We do
get some Melissa and Ashley talking. I think that's later.
Speaker 2: This is Veronica did not seem to push Dario and Ashley.
She was pushing melan peanut butter. I think Dario and
Ashley came from Melissa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that, but I feel like Melissa
found out that that Veronica was saying that who was
it there? So was pushing Melissa and Nicole. And then
I think Melissa and Nicole were pushing Dario and Ashley,
and it it seems like a big giant clusterbuck.
Speaker 3: Which is the point. I mean that was Yeah, that's
what this whole thing is is cluster fox times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was lots of renan in circles. But ultimately
we did get into the challenge rellely quickly, which is
one thing that I have enjoyed about this season because
the episodes are only an hour, so we're under the challenge.
How I kind of liked this challenge. I thought this
was kind of fun. So they started out in the
you know, the big open field that they always start
out in, and the partners are split up, one on
either side of the field. They all each team has
their own lane. In each lane, there are four sets
of or four keys that had like puzzle keys, so
they have puzzle keys on them that each partner has
to memorize two sets of and then they meet in
the middle of the field and have to use those
keys that they memorized to finish their board. Well the
caveat the or the not the caveat they catch there
is the one person of the teams has a switch
that once they memorize their board, they push that switch
and it incinerates the board, but it doesn't just incinerate
it for them, and incinerates it for their partner as well,
And they're not allowed to talk to each other during
this whole thing. So they have to memorize their board.
They have to plan ahead, memorize their board, and do
the next one down without their partner being able to say, hey,
I'm not ready.
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting premise falls pretty that same, like anybody can
win stuff, you know, I don't know it does. And
it's like it's the same sort of survivor thing, right,
It's like kind of endurance memorization puzzle, Like it's the
same sort of thing.
Speaker 4: It's not really endurance at all, though, Like I really
liked that the puzzle that they had, so they had
the mother puzzle they had to memorize was a bunch
of clocks that all had different times and time zones
written on them, and then in the center everybody. It
seems like everybody thought that it was just like I
don't know, maybe they didn't. Everybody thought they just needed
to replicate what was on the keys. But Veronica finds
it sees that the time for La that's already on
the board is slightly different than the time that was
on their keys, so they switched all of their times
to match that, like, you know, ahead another two or
three hours.
Speaker 3: Type of thing.
Speaker 4: I really liked that the keys were incinerated and they
couldn't go running back to look at them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did. It was kind of like you
lock in your answer one time and that was it.
There was no going back and checking, no penalties for
getting it wrong. It was sort of like, you're wrong,
you're right, that's it, You're done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I enjoyed. I liked it they couldn't go back.
I liked that it wasn't about who got done fastest.
It was just you basically have one chance, and if
you get it fucked up, then you're you're done.
Speaker 3: But speaking to that Wolfe of like it didn't matter
who got it done fastest. What did you guys think
of Daria's fucking bullshit stuff where he's like, I'm going
to just go fast and then I was gonna make
everybody else go fast and screw up things.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't disagree with him on that like it.
I don't think that that's actually what he did, But
I also don't think that that it is a bad strategy. Yeah,
I think he's too dumb to actually have that beat
his strategy.
Speaker 3: I think that's what I think. That's what makes me
mad about it too. It's like retroactive. I think that
that's he had that impact, but I think it was accidentally.
And then in a confessional he went back and like
claimed it like it was a smart move, and I
don't like I don't like that for.
Speaker 2: Sure, but I mean the way, at least the way
it was dedited on the show, it did work. Yeah,
he hit it, and then everybody else kind of was like,
oh fuck.
Speaker 3: Hurry yeah, but just like people that own their assholeness,
wouldn't this be better if Daria just in the confessional
was like, I don't know, I thought I got it right,
but then all these other people hit the thing after
I did, you know, Like it just seemed like he
was lying, and it just made me feel weird talk it.
Speaker 4: I just I feel like Daria is too dumb of
a person to actually be able to, you know, call
for check. And actually, I honestly I don't think that
Ashley is that smart of a person either, that they
would have done this and been like, oh, yeah, we
totally got it right.
Speaker 3: And also it didn't matter, No, it didn't matter when,
so who cares?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 2: If they would have strategized with like another team and
the other team was like, yeah, I think we have it.
Dario and Ashley were like, look, we don't have it.
We're just gonna go ahead and buzz. Maybe it'll make
everybody else buzz. It'd be like, oh, that's like a
good strategy. Yeah, like you said, I think it's a
retroactive one, but it is something that retroactively did work.
Speaker 3: Sure it worked and that it ended the game quickly,
but it didn't. I don't feel like it really impacted
the game. I mean probably not the last people to
finish won it. So yeah, so who cares?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because yeah, ultimately, Uh, Veronica and Katie are the
ones who end up winning. They take their time on it,
and you know, I think Veronica is a she seems
to be a relatively smart person, so I was not
all that surprised by this. But they did seem to take,
like take a significant amount of time longer than everyone else.
Even TJ says something that the people who took the
longest or took forever, something of that sort. So they
end up winning. Uh, there's not a whole lot to
say about the rest of it. I don't remember if
there was any Oh I do remember in the in
the little like talking about team or the team's talking
at the beginning of the challenge, saying like who wants
to who they want to have win all that sort
of thing. Steve looks really fucking annoyed. Not he just annoyed.
He looks very spaced out, as Adam is yet again
going on some diatribe about oh, we're gonna war, we're
gonna be we're old guys that yay, yay, old fogies,
and Steve is just like, I'm off and insane, and
then Adam makes some some some word I don't remember
what it was, and Melissa and Nicole are not happy
that they have to do math, which this wasn't really
all that much math. It's was time zones, and Nicole
says something to the effect of I'm like, not all
of us are blessed with beauty and brains or looks
and brains.
Speaker 6: Nicole goes, well, Ship like, well it looks like you
don't have either, but I sorry, Yeah, Melissa said that
to Nicole because Nicole looks at her like what the hell, No, Nicole,
she she she's not wrong.
Speaker 4: I was cracking up at that. But then we get
back to the house and we're just flying through this
episode because I don't have notes us.
Speaker 3: Miss score, I got seven to watch. Let's go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're back at the house, and this is
when all the drama ensues. So it's a lot of
back and forth. It's a lot of people talk, I mean,
as it always is. There's lots and lots and lots
of politics being talked. But the they really comes into
play here, and so does Shane's insecurities. So Shane has
let us Shane let us know last episode that he
and Veronica have been basically best friends for the last
like twenty something years, like outside of the house best friends.
But he feels like Frank is encroaching on his not
only friendship but also or not only alliance, but also
friendship with Veronica, and Shane's feel a little insecure about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is really because Veronica and Frank have
sort of bonded over this idea of weak teams, we
like want to keep weak teams, and Shane is less
sort of committed to this idea, right yep, from what
it seems anyway, because he's not I mean, Shane's not
one of the weaker teams, so he would be less committed. Yeah,
and I think that that. I think Shane's right like
that is that's where this started, and Veronica is sort
of siding with Frank in terms of the game. I
don't know about the friendship whatever, but I think Shane's
got a point, right.
Speaker 4: I Yes, I think he does.
Speaker 2: Think Shane and Davon are one of the stronger teams.
Speaker 3: I think they're not one of the weaker ones out
of this grouping of teams. Yes, all right, yeah, I
mean when you're like Katie and Veronica are weaker Sam
and Frank, who else do we have this week?
Speaker 2: I don't think Sam and Frank are all that week.
I think Sam's not good obviously long distance stuff. So
you could argue they would be a weaker team in
the final because of that. But I think during actual
like play, I don't consider them like a week team.
As much as Frank likes to whine about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they would just do everything. They were coming
in last or close to it for a good chunk
of the game though.
Speaker 4: They came in. It was the first three episodes, but
there's a lot. Yeah, but like Nicole and Melissa have
they've been at the bottom end or they haven't, like
one a single episode so I don't know, I just
I think it's more like I look at Devon and Shane,
like they are both they both seem to be a
little bit on the smarter side of things. They both
seem to be a little bit more on the political
politically savvy side of things, and they're both a little
bit more on the physical out of this grouping of
people on the physical side of things, not in compared
to like Fessi and Amber and Turbo. And I mean,
I don't really know that Nanny's all that physical. She
just feels like a stick figure in that ice. But
I mean they, yeah, they just Shane and Davon feel
like they in my head, it feels like they can
hold their own a little bit better than like Katie
and Veronica, or hell, even even like Melissa and Nicole,
because Melissa Nicole fucking fall apart when it has anything
to do with a puzzle, when it has anything to
do with math. Like they're good at the physical thing,
but that's literally all they have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Frank wants Melissa Nicole over Shane and Davon.
Especially Frank hates Shane and Zach. I wish you were
here for the social media stuff because I want your
insight onto why. But yeah, I think Frank does not
want Shane in the final, and I think Ronica is
maybe citing that way a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think Frank thinks that Shane and Davon have a
legitimate chance to actually like they could actually beat them
because they're good physically and mentally. And yeah, I think
that Frank knows that Melissa and Nicole are too dumb
to win final and too emotional between the two of them,
like they Melissa can't fucking Stan Nicole.
Speaker 3: So Frank's perfect final and maybe even Veronica's. Their perfect
final is Katie and Veronica, Frank and Sam And listen, Nicole,
you think, well.
Speaker 4: I don't need to. I mean, I guess we kind
of need a fourth team in there, because every final
has started off with four teams in.
Speaker 3: The last ten. Who's the fourth somebody week? Who's the
next weakest? Are we on to Shane and Davon? Are
they number four?
Speaker 4: I guess so yeah, I think Shaneon and Davon are
number four because the other teams are Ashley and Oh,
I mean, Ashley and Dario could be in there because
they're kind of a nothing team.
Speaker 3: But they don't have they don't have puzzle skills. I
don't think between two of them, No.
Speaker 2: But they would probably have more endurance than yeah, Sam
and Frank.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we've had Ashley and Dario Fessi and Amber
and Nanni and Turbo.
Speaker 3: M. Yeah, so they probably are. They're probably right in
the middle.
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, so they're not they're not bad enough to
be part of the not great side, and then they're
good enough to be part of the strong side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are very They're very in the middle man.
They are very in the middle of this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But yeah, I mean it's just it's a lot
of a lot and a lot a lot of back
and forth around this whole issue, and there's a lot
of speculation on who's going to go into this next
step and this next elimination. And then we go to
Club Nights and I am sorry, we'll be Wilfy looked
like he was about to do a.
Speaker 2: Well because I thought you were about to be like,
then we're on to the denominations and I was like, oh.
Speaker 4: No, club night. Yeah, you can tell these people are
fucking ship faced, like more so than they have been
in some of the other episodes because Shame sits down
with Nicole and like he pulls Nicole to Melissa up,
away from everybody and sits down another room and it's
basically like, you guys are safe. We have three teams
who are willing to vote in Sam and Frank, we
need you to be on our side, but you can't
tell anybody. And both of them are like, yeah, let's
do it. Nicole is fucking pumped and of course tells him, yeah,
we won't say anything. We won't say anything. We won't
say anything. And they get back to the house and
literally this must have been like within an hour. They're
back at the house and Veronica and Katie kind of
know that something's going on, and they go and confront
Nicole and Nicole just tells them how Shane.
Speaker 3: This is why I love Veronica for this, that she
could like spot that there was a weird dynamic and
then she could spot like, here's how I fucking like
infiltrate this team. You know, like she just had it on. Man.
She was geared into that she knew how to do this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she knew immediately. She was the confessional that she
had while they were at the club, and who knows
if she actually noticed it. While they were at the club,
she was like, there's a weird energy, like something's going on.
People are way too excited, like everybody, there are people
that are like celebrating when there's no reason to celebrate
right now. They people seem very happy about something, and
I want to know what's going on. But yeah, So
she sits down and is talking to Nicole and is
kind of like, well, you know, it's like it's not
going to be Frank and Sam, and Nicole tells her
to go and talk to her friend Shane, and then
Melissa comes in and it's basically like Melissa's still pissed
about last week because she thinks that Veronica is the
reason why Big T and Corey went in, which this
is where we were talking about it earlier about who
was they because last week Veronica was they yep, And
it was because of the Big T and Corey thing,
And Melissa's basically just pissed that Nicole was listening to
Veronica and letting Veronica kind of sway her to her side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is also in Veronica flexed her muscles
when she said, like, listen, if you vote for Frank
and Sam, I'm gonna make you our vote, like you're
going to go in against them, so have fun with that,
which is just sort of like also the perfect thing
to say to change her vote, and I'm not sure
if I was smart enough to think of that, and
she just was like right on the scene like boom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't disagree with that, but it did kind
of annoy me just how aggressive Veronica was getting, Like
I don't know, I get that you're the power couple
that week, but you are still arguably the weakest team
in the house, So I don't know, she was getting
real aggressive with what she was talking about with Nicole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she made some comment I don't remember if it
was in this conversation or later one, where she said
something about wasting the wind. She didn't want to waste
the win, and I think this is what she meant.
She's like, we're only gonna win this maybe once this season.
This is it, Like we're gonna fucking go and you know,
if it pisses people off, like that's what it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the second week in a row that
if everybody just voted for who they said they originally
were going to vote for, everything, would have turned out
the fine. Yeah, everybody gets all scared and oh my god,
what if they vote for me two seasons from now
and everybody stupid.
Speaker 3: But it's funny, like what you said will feel like
it would turn out fine, But it would turn out
fine for like not them, right, not Katie and Veronica,
because they'd be going in and they'd be going home.
It's like this is this benefits them, Like this chaos,
this craziness, this is what they want Katie Veronica.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course. But I'm saying for like Nicole
and Melissa. Yeah, if Veronica started throwing that smoke, I'd
be like, okay, yeah, I'll fucking go in and steal
Frank and Sam's star and send them home if that's
what you want, And just remember that's what you wanted.
You are the one making that decision. Yeah, I would
blow that up in her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Nicole and Melissa are not smart enough to
realize that they can turn this around on her. You're not,
And I don't I don't think that. I don't think
that uh, Veronica would pull that, like because she and
Frank have been working so well together, Like I know
that Veronica has jumped on things in the past, like
the Leroy thing, like when he was he was the
burn vote. She's jumped on things in the past, but
I feel like this is one of those that, like
because she's got Katie with her, and because the Frank
and Sam are such a huge part of their alliance,
they would have kind of reeled back like, ooh, maybe
we do need to throw in, Like shit, I don't
even know who would be Devon and Shane maybe, but
I don't think she would throw him then, at least
not at that point in time. Who's the other team
on that alliance? Why am I blanking on this?
Speaker 3: I don't know. We're in this weird phase where I
kind of know the alliances, but unless I have a
flow chart in front of me, like, I'm not gonna
be able to get them off the top of my head.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just I don't know they It seems
like a a toss up on who they'd end up
throwing in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very clearly a weird situation, which is why they're
doing this craziness.
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, So then we go onto nomination. Uh TJ
gets mad at the wind or not mad that he's
yelling at the wind. Did you guys notice that it
looked like post production put in fake lightning?
Speaker 3: Totally? Absolutely, it was fake lightning, no question, like.
Speaker 4: Three or four sets of fake lightning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't even look good. It's weird.
Speaker 4: No, it was like you have lightning going in between
the house and where the camera is at like that,
that's that's not gonna happen. It might, but it's not
gonna look like that.
Speaker 3: No, very strange.
Speaker 4: That stuck out to me so much.
Speaker 2: You got to build up the suspense, but I mean
there's no suspense literally, just heavy winds, and.
Speaker 4: I think they were just trying to make a kind
of intense storm really, just like every wind looked like
it was a very intense storm. Whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't remember if it was doing this or or
earlier than. We didn't talk about it. But this is
where Amber kind of reveals that she's not sure who
they is either. Despite Corey telling her not to trust Veronica,
she's still trusting Veronica and not Frank Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this this is what I was about to say.
They get in there and t J jumps straight into okay,
let's do the nominations. Who wants to start? And Amber
like freaks out like I wanted to say something. I'm
I'm kind of surprised you didn't say, like, does anyone
have anything to say? And Tej kind of looks at
her like, well, okay, go ahead, and she lays into
Frank Frank, you're they and you know this? That just
lays into him and then says something to the effective
like I can't wait to see how this turns out, shadowy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she does not have a read on the game.
Speaker 4: She's never had to read on the game. She can't
read on the game in the season that she won.
Speaker 3: No, she has no clue.
Speaker 4: No, she her hair looked really good this episode. But girls, dumb.
Speaker 3: Well listen and I want to be sensitive to this,
But is there some part of this that could be
her autism of like she's not good at social qu
she's can't read the room, she's not good.
Speaker 4: At I mean maybe, but I honestly I completely forget
that she has autism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot. No, Well there you go. Guess now
you can feel guilty like I do when you start
judging her.
Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't at all.
Speaker 3: Well you should.
Speaker 2: I did watch talking to the pre show stuff. I
did watch the first episode of Survivor when I asked,
Zach was asking, there is a girl with full blown
autism that's on this season, So yeah, and I say
full blown, like that's a diagnosis, but she's she's just
very much just like I have autism, I can't tell
social cues.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know, maybe that's maybe that is
part of what's going on here, but yeah, she just
full blown meltdown towards Frank.
Speaker 4: And Frank is sitting there like, what the fuck? Where
is this coming from? Like he hasn't been a bit
of a snake in the grass.
Speaker 3: But I don't think he deserved this from her.
Speaker 4: I know, No, he didn't deserve this.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like this was him in the way
that she was sort of directing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think that this
was warranted at all. Yeah. I mean maybe if they
actually knew just how much he had been a steak
in the grass, like we know, but I think the
face that everybody has seen there, no, I don't think
this was warranted. Yeah. So then they start voting and
it comes down to three and three Frank and Sam
versus Fessi and Amber Uh and of course, the last
team to vote is Nicole and Melissa, and Melissa has
tears in her eyes, and Nichole says it's going to
be uh FESSI and Amber and Melissa goes along with it,
and Curly Fries looks real dumb, Yes she is.
Speaker 3: Because she thought she thought it was gonna be Franken Sam.
Speaker 4: Something. She thought she was doing something with.
Speaker 3: That yeah wamp, yeah.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So they walk back into the house and Frank has
a meltdown like.
Speaker 2: This is the Frank that I knew was hiding away
and his holier than now attitude so far this season.
I'm like, here he is.
Speaker 3: We can always see it. It was always it was
a little under the surf. It was there. You can
just sort of we were all just sort of waiting
and then and then here to here he is trying.
Speaker 2: To act like, oh, guys, I've grown, I've become a
better person, and it's like, Nope, you're still fuck wad.
That was on Real World.
Speaker 3: Yep, I don't remember him on the Real World, but yes,
he's he's a very hate herble guy for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean he's acted the exact same way, just blow
ups out of nowhere. Over nothing, over the the least
perceived slight whatsoever. And He's just.
Speaker 3: Like, I can't believe everybody.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's a fucking game.
Speaker 3: We're on.
Speaker 2: Calm down, yep, love it, Jesus man.
Speaker 4: Of course he's doing this. And Shane is, you know,
giggling in the background, and he's using one of those
fairy guns on his muscles and just sitting there watching
all of it, just laughing, and Frank is freaking out.
Speaker 3: And I'm also curious, Zachi, what's going on Zachi in
the chat room with Shane and Corey? And how does
this how does this relate to the Frank situation that's
happening now? Have you guys heard of the Shane and
Corey situation?
Speaker 4: Didn't we talk about it last week? Or was that
something else?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 2: Corey?
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Our brains are r much. The show is turning our
brains too much.
Speaker 2: I barely even pay attention to the show and I
watch it let alone. What we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Apparently Shane and Corey hooked up earlier this season and
it was and it was not shown, and it and
it broke down for some really bad reason that Frank says, like,
you're you should be glad this didn't make it to
air or whatever. The implication is that maybe it's racist
stuff because Shane is kind of racist. He's like done
other racist.
Speaker 2: Ship a friend of the show Shane.
Speaker 3: No, So I don't know. I don't know what's going
on to this. I would love I would love some
insight from chatroom if anybody's got any that's disappointing, m m.
But this is he's rivals with Davon because he said
racist ship to Davon, right, Wasn't that? Isn't that why
they're race their rivals.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 4: No, he called her a bitch.
Speaker 3: I thought he said something about like.
Speaker 4: The having whole they were having that whole conversation, like
that conversation. They were having a yelling match at each
other and she was standing one of the two of
them was standing in the doorway and yelling at the
other one and she called him or he called her
a bitch and she got real mad about it. Yeah,
maybe there was more too. I just the what I
remember is he called her a bitch and she was pissed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I'm I'm not I'm not sure enough of
I can't remember. I can't remember what happened.
Speaker 4: M Yeah, I don't know. Maybe there is more to
it and I just don't remember.
Speaker 3: Frank's Zachi says that Frank said that on the official
Challenge podcast. Frank said that quote white gays are the problem.
Uncomfortable saying that on podcasts, but there you go.
Speaker 4: I said it, white gay Frank.
Speaker 3: Frank's owning that he's part of the problem.
Speaker 2: See you like Italian or something.
Speaker 3: Frank said he is included in that, So he is
part of the problem. Okay, okay, I like when guys
own their ship.
Speaker 4: I just I'm glad that he understands that he is
also a white man. Goodness, we usually get it.
Speaker 3: We know what we are, Carolin, I know.
Speaker 4: I think both my white men understand it. Not all
white men anyway, uh onto the elimination in the house.
So at elimination we have Feesti and ambergo down and
they I don't remember if it was now or if
it was later that he calls her his ride or
die and they seem to have really made up, which
I found very strange. Festi also was significantly more likable
this season than he has been in recent memory, and
I think it's because he hasn't had all lot of
screen time.
Speaker 3: He wasn't he hasn't done anything. What do you mean
like the book? Because he didn't notice he was there.
Speaker 2: Yep, hidden the background.
Speaker 3: Great hairy.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he hidden the background or if
he was hidden in the background, which I think is
more likely.
Speaker 2: This don't know that one of those assholes. It probably
doesn't appreciate his hair either.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think on his best day he's like
not an interesting person.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's an introvert, completely hollow and just devoid
of personality and like like why are you on the show?
You're not funny. You don't say funny things like what
are you doing on the show?
Speaker 2: If he said he was autistic, I would believe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah I would too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would not believe it barely.
Speaker 2: In it was great for his reputation as it was
because he tells us. He tells us during this segment
he's had a girlfriend for like a year. I guess
you could say I've grown up, which was code for hey,
I don't cheat on people anymore for now.
Speaker 4: I mean good luck to her, good luck. It's all
I have to say, And then Veronica and Katie end
up voting in Nanni and Turbo.
Speaker 2: Wouilch To be fair, if this was like a physical matchup,
I would be pretty excited.
Speaker 4: That would have been a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 3: But at least these two are probably the two strongest
teams an you think, like in the final, these are
the ones you fear the most. So this is this
is great for everybody else that's there. Ye yes, And
everybody sort of says that as they're sort of saying
like who do you want to win? Everybody sort of
says the same thing, like I don't really care whoever
whoever comes back as whoever comes back.
Speaker 4: Well, And if you watched the the next week on
I don't remember it was the next week on after
last week's episode of it was the one that came
out like on Tuesday. This week on UH, there was
a there was a clip for this week that came
out before this week's episode came out that Veronica is
talking about how she wants Bessi and Amber and Nanni
and Turbo, and it made it so incredibly apparent to
me that those were going to be the two up
two teams going. I did not, even when all of
the Frank and Sam stuff was going on, not a
thought in my mind did I think. Not a chance
in hell did I think that they were going to
I thought, purely from the preview that it was going
to be those two teams.
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately they in the this season on trailer, they
showed Nanni and Turbo having an argument.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we haven't seen.
Speaker 2: Which hasn't happened yet, And so that's when I was like, well,
at least I know who's going home now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we it looks like, I mean spoilers, looks like
we might be seeing it next week.
Speaker 2: It happens next week.
Speaker 4: But yeah, So the elimination, huh do one of you
two remember the elimination? Who wants to tell us? Well
for you go for it.
Speaker 2: Uh, good luck with that.
Speaker 3: I genuinely don't remember.
Speaker 2: I am literally trying to even remember what what the
elimination was.
Speaker 4: Okay, so they I don't remember what the Oh good lord,
this is fucking awful. I know that they both had
to do a puzzle. So they both had, Oh they
had it was a scratch scratch off lottery scratch off,
all right?
Speaker 3: The chat room is the chat room is helping us
out here chat.
Speaker 4: Room screaming into the speakerry.
Speaker 3: Guys, that was embarrassing for all three of us.
Speaker 2: Another super boring elimination, which is why we all forgot.
Speaker 3: It, is this anyone can win bullshit? Right, It's a
scratch off puzzle? Are you serious? This is what we're doing?
Speaker 2: Literally is one I probably could have done without even
scratching anything off.
Speaker 3: Probably, yeah, especially like these are the two strongest teams, right,
we spend an episode hitting the two strongest teams against
each other and we're watching them fucking scratch this ship
off its.
Speaker 2: Rounds.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is All Stars, and every season of All
Stars they have had these non like confrontational things because
it's you know, people that are only going to be
there for two weeks, which it started off as like
a this is a real short thing, and now it's
trend into just this is a regular season just called
All Stars. But yeah, this scratch off game, though I did.
I had an instant, visceral Hevy GB style reaction because
the moment that they said scratch off, I instantly transported
back to like twenty years ago when they had the
one where they were inside of a wooden a giant
wooden box, and it was a whole team inside this
giant wooden box where they had to scratched the paint
off of a window in front of them, and I
just remember them describing the paint getting stuck under fingernails
and that was someone punched through the glass at one point,
or like went through the glass and cut themselves. Like
instant visceral reaction. Just like my whole body cramped up
because I all I could think of was scratching the
paint off with my own fingernails, and even though they
were doing it with a coin. Just oh hev GB's yeah.
Speaker 3: Also born to watch, like just yes to watch just
what are we doing here? Challenge?
Speaker 4: The most exciting thing of the entire elimination was Turbo,
and it was they won Nonian Turbo one. He call
he was pissed off it. I think everybody. I don't
know if it was just Veronica and Katie or if
it was everybody up there, or if it was Amber Infesti.
He calls people pussy chickens, and he's obviously happy that
Amber and Festi only got half of their puzzle done
in the time that it took DONI and Turbo to
do their whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's yeah, Turbo's an asshole, but he's funny. I
don't know, he's funny. Another subreddit thing I saw was
comparing Turbo to Jordan, which I thought was like a
really interesting comparison that they are very similar people in
terms of how they treat the competition and how they
are on the confessionals, and interesting comparison.
Speaker 4: I forgot about in elimination or in the nominations, when
Frank is so Amber's freaking out at Frank, Frank is
yelling back at Amber, and Turbo is sitting in between
the two of them just spacing out. And then we
get cut to a a talking head of just Turbo
and he talks about flushing. He does the whole movement
of taking Frank, putting him in a toilet, flushing the toilet,
and watching him go down the drain, and they make
the noises that.
Speaker 3: It was so good, good old Turbo. He's endearing again. Now, right,
we hated Turbo for a couple of seasons and now
we're back to we're back to liking Turbo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Scott, Scott has it right. Turbo is zero is
at zero or one hundred. There is no in between,
And I feel like that is how it is with
liking Turbo. It is either zero or one hundred. I
absolutely love that some of the shit that he does,
and then other times like what the fuck are you
doing here? You are too insane to be on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been fun this season.
Speaker 4: Zachi says that he has always left Terurbo. Yes, we know.
Speaker 2: I'm a feeling we're got problems with Turbo. Next episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah good, I feel like now the next episode is
going to be intense. But yeah. Then they go back
to the house and the only thing of any like
merit in that whole scene is we get Shane talking
to Veronica AND's kind of Veronica is kind of like,
I feel like you think that I am replacing you
with Frank, and Shane basically says, yes, I do feel
like you're replacing me with Frank And she says, I
hope you. I hope you know that, like there's no
way that I would ever pick him over you to
keep someone safe, and his response is, I don't know
if I believe that, and she is floored.
Speaker 3: But he's right, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is she literally says that the confessional right before him, like,
I don't know, maybe picking Frank would be a better idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's weird that she's acting as if he's wrong,
Like what does he does? Does she actually think that
in this moment or does she just want to keep
him on her side?
Speaker 4: I you know, I think in that moment in the house,
she thought that she was telling him the truth, and
then when she got around to actually doing the confessional,
she knew that that was bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 4: As Johnny Bananas likes to say, they're like all's fair
and love warn challenges.
Speaker 3: It would be very weird to see a fallout of
Veronica and Shane because, like they mentioned it, it showed
it on the show. They've been buddies since season six,
my favorite season, Battle of the Sexes. Like it's like,
it is weird to watch them in this friendship for
over twenty years and then we're going to see him
lose it. But it'd be weird.
Speaker 4: It's just one of those things. Really, I feel like
they you would think that because they have been friends
for so long, because they have been around this game
for so long, that they would understand that these are
game moves, and yeah, ultimately it means that you end
up winning a shit ton of money, but like, are
you really going to let these game moves affect your
real friendship?
Speaker 3: Right? I guess we're gonna see you right. See how
they did that?
Speaker 2: Which we we kind of missed one part, which was
at the very beginning of the elimination. TJ, of course,
always gives the winners a chance. Are you gonna come
down and earn your star? And Katie Veronica are like, no,
we're gonna set this one out and TJ's response is
living to fight another day. I like to see it,
and I went, bullfucking shit, TJ, this is where you're
supposed to go. Hey, you need to start to run
my final get the fuck down here. At some pointtimes being.
Speaker 4: Too nice, I did not even realize. I didn't. I
did not clue to that.
Speaker 3: I noticed that, and I think, well, he wouldn't have
said that to a better team, you know what I mean?
Would have he said that to them? And like he
may he might have said that to Frank and Sam maybe.
Speaker 2: But no, I don't know. I'm just saying TJ softened
over the years, and I don't think I like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: It's also weird because I'm not sure that Katie and
Veronica are playing to win. They're playing to last as
long as they can. But like Ronic is not winning
this final. They're not She's not winning the final.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's the episode.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Carlin, you want to tell us everybody did on
the Fantasy League this week?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the host League, which none of us really
care about because yeah, he's still kicking her asses.
Speaker 3: I care. I desperately want to not be in fourth place.
I feel like I've been fourth place. The whole run
over multiple seasons.
Speaker 4: I guess you have been.
Speaker 3: And I want to be third place.
Speaker 4: Somehow I have overtaken Wolfe, which I feel like last week,
Tim Moore, you and I like relatively close.
Speaker 3: I was like forty points away from you. I was like,
I'm playing for you, Cal and this is gonna happen.
Speaker 4: I'm so confused. So hoow I jumped so far ahead.
Speaker 3: Katie and Veronica mystery.
Speaker 4: I forgot about that. And I have Shane and Davon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I lost Amberg this week, so and.
Speaker 3: I lost Fi.
Speaker 2: I'm dumb. Yeah, okay, that makes me down to Frank
and Melissa.
Speaker 4: Yep. So we have Zachi Bananas still in first, no
surprise there with nine forty five. I'm now in second
with eight hundred. Wolfe's in third with seven forty four
and the Sweet Tea Dude, I don't know what, like,
what's up? Your teams are just fucking cursed, man.
Speaker 3: But they don't look bad on paper right when I
when you get them, it's like.
Speaker 4: To be fair. You picked your team this year as
the people that no one wants.
Speaker 3: Well, the people that hate that you hated, that people
hate you hate and yeah.
Speaker 4: Because you picked the people that you hate. That's usually
the people that don't do very well.
Speaker 3: So who I got FESTI Turbo? But who do I have?
Speaker 4: I got Turbo, and you should have done pretty well.
Speaker 3: I did, I got Turbo, left, I got.
Speaker 4: So you have okay, And then you also had FESSI,
Sylvia and Beth. Oh god, you had Sylvia and Beth.
They went out an episode like what one.
Speaker 3: I know for the people I hated. Yeah, that's the
thing that's my thing this year.
Speaker 4: You would have been better be a Nissan Big tea total.
Speaker 2: Beth netted you five points.
Speaker 3: Nice, Thanks Beth.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Yeah, that honestly, that choice right there may have
been the thing that fucked you the most.
Speaker 3: I thought she'd give me some drama or something, you know.
Speaker 4: I know, but that's what happens when you go home immediately, because.
Speaker 2: It's because she got you sixteen points in the first episode,
and then she got you negative eleven points the second eliminated.
She got eliminated, and she didn't do the challenge.
Speaker 4: A challenge that was the challenge that like half a
fucking team's quit TJ.
Speaker 2: Verbally disappointed in a contestant got a negative dead as well.
Speaker 3: God damn it, Beth went a bitch, But Wolfy I
got I got three players you got too, So I
still have a chance to overtake Wolfe. I really think
you do you do?
Speaker 4: And I have you know, Katie and Ronica, Shane and Devan,
so there's a good chance that I'm going out.
Speaker 3: You've got such a shitty team, Carl, your episode fuck,
your your team sucks. How are you in second place?
It's fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Honestly, when we when we noticed who was on my
when I noticed who was on my team last week
and realized that I have two full teams of ship
players that I'm like, I don't know how I've even
lasted this. How the hell did I make it out
of episode like three?
Speaker 3: Second place? Karen, you fucking.
Speaker 4: Oh, I guarantee you. I am fucked. I guarantee you.
The next two episodes, both of those teams are going home.
I really would not be surprised. I would not be
surprised all right, onto the one that everybody actually cares about,
the Public League. First place is still the Pussy Chickens, congratulations.
Second place is still Kiki one more time, and third
place is still take the Stars. And run. There's been
some movement a little bit farther down. The host team
is in ninth. We came down one point or one place.
I'm in eleventh. I haven't moved anywhere. Zachie Bananas is
in fifteenth. He came down two spots. Tim you big
uncle sweet Tea came up three spots to twenty second.
Speaker 3: I'm coming, I'm coming up.
Speaker 2: He went right over right over me.
Speaker 3: Did I pass you?
Speaker 2: You did not?
Speaker 4: I know, Sorry, it's because it's because I was looking
at the black name where it's your actual name, not
the blue name, your screen name, and so I skipped
over Brian w I was looking for Wolfy. Uh so
Wolf you actually moved up five fucking spots. He is
right behind Zach in sixteenth.
Speaker 2: And why is that? Because I picked Frank, I picked Nicole,
I picked Shane, and I picked a Veronica.
Speaker 3: Lineup this time.
Speaker 4: I who did I pick?
Speaker 6: I picked?
Speaker 4: Where's my team? Oh? Go away, come on all of
them and open yours too. Oh yeah. I picked Nanni
and Turbo because I thought there was gonna be some drum.
I don't know why, but I was hoping there was
gonna be drama this week.
Speaker 2: And then saved it for next week.
Speaker 4: I know, well, I still have picks. They're definitely going
in there for next week because there's gonna be some drama. Yeah,
and then Davon and I don't know why I put
it Davon. I think I thought that she was gonna
bring up ship with Shane. And then Veronica. I don't
see who Tim picked.
Speaker 3: I think I did all right? Did Veronica and Katie?
I think if memory service maybe just Veronica, M.
Speaker 4: You're so far down there, shut up.
Speaker 2: Carling the big wheel, spin on prices right to get
all the way down to that bottom.
Speaker 4: Yes, you've got Katie, Veronica, Shane, and Steve.
Speaker 3: I did all right except for Steve.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, to be fair, Steve and Adam
have been kind of kicking ass in points, hence the
reason why fucking Zachie Bananas is so far ahead in
the private league. So they were a good choice for
almost every episode. Who did Zach pick?
Speaker 2: Wants to know?
Speaker 4: Zach picked Devon, Nanny, Steve, and Turbo. Mm hmm, all right,
so apparently he and I had the like Nanny and
Turbo thing are gonna They're gonna cause some drama. Apparently
we were just a week early.
Speaker 3: Yep, I'll be picking them next week. Thanks.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling that everybody will be picking them
next week.
Speaker 2: Which is pretty much means nobody's gonna be picking It
just means everybody's gonna eave.
Speaker 3: It out, yea, unless somebody's used up all their nanny Turbo.
Speaker 4: I mean that'd be hard. You'd have to have picked
them every single episode basically. I mean, I guess yeah,
because we do five yeah whatever, stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Do the whole thing or half the thing?
Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, So that's those are the leagues.
Speaker 3: Sweet.
Speaker 2: Uh, Zach's not here to do social media stuff.
Speaker 3: So but I do want to know about the Corey
Shane thing. Chatum if anybody's gotting info?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all four of you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Shane's email addressed. Maybe can email him Shane
what happened?
Speaker 4: Yeah, sames a really good idea.
Speaker 3: Except with you and Corey.
Speaker 2: Do you want to come on our podcast and air
your grievances on this slowly podcast?
Speaker 3: I'll send you some honey brown.
Speaker 4: Small beans podcast.
Speaker 2: Uh, he loves Zach said Turkish government trying to arrest
Turbo for making awesome music. I think that's that was
his big social media. Thanks for this week. Not that exciting.
Speaker 3: It's coming to America too, It's coming. Oh yeah, oppressive governments,
Nazi's everywhere here we come. Yeah yea.
Speaker 2: If anybody wants to, uh maybe form a commune and
move to Canada.
Speaker 3: Let me know why. They're just gonna be annexed. Dude,
they'll at least fight.
Speaker 2: Our country is not doing ship.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna move somewhere and then be invaded by
the place we moved from. That's fine, the fucking nightmare.
I'll move again.
Speaker 2: I'll move again.
Speaker 3: What the fuck are you doing here? Trump and I
get just trying to get away from you.
Speaker 2: Let's keep moving. He's eighty. He's gonna die soon anyway,
and I can't wait. I'm gonna throw a party when
that day happens.
Speaker 4: I have a feeling that most of the country is
gonna throw a party when that day happens.
Speaker 3: World, Carlyn World.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. Probably will do the world, all right.
Speaker 2: Let's not get it to it here. Yeah, let's do it.
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