Speaker 1: I was gonna hit the music, but you know what,
I was slow in this get up. It's only two
of us. But here, you know, I'll do that. Just
whore is here? There go. That's how you get I.
Speaker 2: Was about to walk away. I don't really have like
a said amount of time when that song plays.
Speaker 1: But do you need to walk away? Do you need to? Good?
You can hit it again, You're gonna do Okay, he's
not walking away. He's not walking away, but yes he's dooming.
Welcome to the six hundred and fortieth episode of the
Geek for his podcast, I am the clown Prince of
podcast Trust Now, and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I am the is that Buggy Kirklen Patzer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just mister Patzer today. You know I said
to he's gonna be my final newscast for the year. Yeah,
I don't need to be a part of that. And
then six supposedly. Yeah, so Kirkland's here, and Kirkland just
is here because he feels bad because he slept in
on that occasi yesterday which we'll talk chicken to the
good fella, I'll say is one. This week we were
reviewing Goodfellas, which I'm very excited to do. So thank
you to Dalton for doing that because it's one of
those movies where like and even last week when we
did the substance, I'm happy Charlie did that too, because
it was past the point of the review and we
would talk about Golden Geeks, but that was with the substance.
I remember last year, everyone's biggest complaint was, well, you
guys didn't do a real review for Saltburn So and
we never did. Maybe what we should probably do that
like a retro when Emeralds next movie comes out, because
I feel like it'll be worth it, or even like
a commentary track would be fun. But so the substance,
I'm glad because I think we've been talking about gold
and Geeks. I'm glad we knocked it off and Goodfellas.
Like sure, I'd love to say, yeah, we're gonna do
the Martins squorsts as the retrospective, but like that's like
a long no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I feel like that, that's just like the amount of
hours of film I don't even know, Okay, I just
feel like long movies.
Speaker 1: Okay, from that perspective, I thought you were saying, like
a lot of movies you wouldn't want to watch you
see you're saying similar movies.
Speaker 2: But I think I wanted to hold my tongue until
we do the retro. I feel like there'll be some
some revelations that come out when we when we talk
about that.
Speaker 1: Oh some revelations. Oh my god, Like I see, are
you just trying to lump them and just say just
as mobs movies? Because like you didn't see this slatter Moon,
I guarantee you.
Speaker 2: Right, No, that's she the Leo one, right?
Speaker 3: Like you?
Speaker 1: Well, which which Leo one? They're all Martin score, says
the Leo Ones. I guess it's either or Leo. But like,
even though there's crime stuff, Wolf of Wall Street is
in a mobster movie, right, that's like a scheme. It's
a bad guy's lead. Shutter Island horror movie, that ain't him.
So there you are, I'll see I'm see Kings of Comedy.
But that's pretty much what the Joker is based off.
It's like a comedian that snaps. So there's that. There's
all man, Okay.
Speaker 2: You've seen Kate Fear, No, I haven't.
Speaker 1: Kate Fear is really good. That's a psychological thriller where
Robert de Narrow plays like a scary guy that is
after a lawyer and his family. I'm trying to think,
Oh man, another one that I I was very underrated
a couple of years ago. Did you ever see Silence
with the Great leam Nest and Andrew Garfield and Adam Driver.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't, so there you go. You just like
proved me wrong. I'm getting ahead of myself.
Speaker 1: It's the ones you've seen. It's the one I see.
I'm sitting yes for the Red stre You don't sound bad,
you know, but like, no, that one's it's a dark movie,
but that one's really good. I'm not gonna be on
any Christmas casts, so yeah, yeah, I know it's Jack's hat,
but it's my hat, you know. There you go, it's off.
Now look at the hall. I think Taylor has a bath,
Madison taking off his posters. She just takes off of
my clothes.
Speaker 2: That's what Christmas years. Yet.
Speaker 1: No, I wore the hat because I won't be here
for Christmas. But uh oh now, and I'm curious because
I thought you said you loved good Fellows, So what's
what's happening here?
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say anything, oh, my goodness. Tune into
the episode.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I loved it when I was a kid,
but now crime is so bad. But no silence, I'd
recommend because it's I can't remember what air it is,
but leam neis and plays a nun. That's I think
it's in a warrisome point. But he goes missing. And
I've only watched it once. I can camera. It's based
on some stuff. But he goes missing somewhere and Andrew
Garfield and Adam Driver also not none, Sorry priests, I
was getting interesting role interesting. He's playing a woman, Leslie Nilson.
That's actually that's a man as well. But no, he
goes missing, so they sent two other priests to go
find him, and some very disturbing stuff happened. So I
think he and God. I can't remember the name of
the movie, but he directed a movie We're Willing to
Foe play Jesus. What is it called?
Speaker 2: I had the one when he hangs Dong and he
needed the the dong replacement because he was too large.
Speaker 1: No, that was.
Speaker 2: Oh, that was a true story.
Speaker 1: It is a true story. No, I can't remember. That
was something else that was like a horror movie. I
think that was I can't remember what that.
Speaker 2: Was extended edition, not that one either.
Speaker 1: You know they had the suit to conceal that. But
oh I'm trying to find it. It's annoying, but no,
he you gotta go. And this is why you Some
of them are music videos, documentary stuff, but director of
seventy two things, you know some of them are TV
episodes as well.
Speaker 2: But how would we even do a retro on that?
Speaker 1: Just the movies? Okay, last Tentation of Christ I should
have known what was called out, but yeah, it's willem
de faux plaining. Geez, I want to give it a rewatch.
Oh what will rage and bowl?
Speaker 2: Not familiar? Is that a big one that I should
have seen that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I have seen it.
Speaker 1: It's a boxing one with the narrow and pesci and
I feel like you've seen the images.
Speaker 2: Of Oh I've never seen this, Yeah, definitely never seen this.
Speaker 1: This would mean like I like myner spoilers. I think
asked me in twenty years when no one has warners
about to me. Martin Scoris says, a grace director of
all time, nobody has been consistently working for as long
as he has, with the amount of films that's been
putting out the quality. I know some might throw like oh,
James Cameron or Steven Spielberg. Steven Spilberg to me, has
a lot of misses in these last twenty years. Cameron, all,
so you can make that state for the King, like
the box office King, like he puts out like one
film a decade, you know, Martin Scorsese, he's putting out
multiple So and like I said, Nolan, Nolan's my personal favorite.
He may get there. The only other person I might
go is like Cuberc. But Scorsese man, like, yeah, you
need to. Obviously we would never do every film, but
yeah you need to. Like mean streets taxi drivers about
a guy who's like a war vet and he comes
back and it's an arrow, of course, and he's a
little office kilter. You've never seen that one before. He
becomes kind of.
Speaker 2: Like a I've seen like scenes of it, but no,
not all the way through.
Speaker 1: No, No, Like I think his biggest stuff is the
crime stuff, but like, yeah, he has a lot of
a lot of really good stuff.
Speaker 2: I start making your way definitely just like generalized him
into that box of you know, like the Mafia movies
and maybe those just aren't really my genre of movies,
or maybe it's just I like particular ones. And then
when they are I'm saying too much. I'm saying, let's
just tune into I just we will.
Speaker 1: I just feel like you had said those worrior type
of genre. So I'm very confused. Now, who knows, I know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm getting older. It's just, you know, taste change,
taste buzzers changing. Maybe my movie taste buds are changing.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. Dult Dalton says, uh, thinking about
picking Pulp. But y'all would do a Quentin Tarantino retro already?
Well or sorry, thought y'all would do a Quentin retro already?
We had we had, we have done one. You can
go back if you're on because your patron you might
be able just a search. I can do a quick
search there. But we did it when once upon a
time Hollywood was coming out. It was you, me and Dylan,
and then Briggs and Taylor were on, like a mixture
of them. But let me just see Pulp because the
two best ones. Obviously YouTube has that stuff. But because
like YouTube, you gotta have the videos not the greatest.
But let me just see Pulp Fiction retrospective. Oh, it
might not be on there, so I might have to
find them maybe. Yeah, so they are on YouTube, but
we will if you want to way around, we will
re release them off to find and download the files.
We will re release them when Quentin if he ever
does his actual tenth film. But no, we have done
the Quentin Tailor retrospective. We've done them, so uh yeah,
that's what happens at twenty nineteen. That was now five
years ago. So that's what happens. Because I'll see your
new listener there that there's a lot of stuff that's
go there. But uh yeah, so tune into that be
interesting because Taylor and Dylan had never seen it before.
Kirkland sounds like he's gonna shot over more on Scorsese.
So check out Good Fellas. That's gonna be our last
format cast. I was hoping it was gonna be this,
but so the other two pieced out. The only reason
I do this is Dulton, you know, But that'll be
last one and then this Sunday check out after nine
that'll be you, myself and Dylan. So anybody joined phase
two and up on the Patreon you can call on.
We got seven slots, so seven people once then we
fill up, so I'll put out the last minute like, hey,
if you're gonna join, let us know, but always if
you can, if you know one hundred percent, let us know,
and then we can reserve a spot for you. But yeah,
that'll be fun. That'll be my kind of last cast.
It might be actually Trys told you, I was trying
to plan to do it before, but if not, it'll
be after. Because I had a patron just send me
I have a one overall topic Kirkland, but then I
had patrons just send me in questions like Mike hitting
near the hardball? That give me? What is my top
ten for the current decade? Right now? So the last
four years? It's my top ten movies? Yeah, just movies.
Speaker 2: That's challenging, Yeah, dude, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because Emily was like, oh that's easy, but I'm like, no, ten,
that's like already just like just even looking at last year,
like my top three like Sulburn, Barbie Oppenheimer right there,
it's like, Okay, you gotta include them all, but where
do you include them?
Speaker 2: So that's like challenging, like just like fighting off the
recency bias of like the things that are fresh in
your mind.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like substance. You know that's when well.
Speaker 2: If you forget one, you'd would just be haunting at you.
I'm sure you know after you record the episode.
Speaker 1: Well that's the that's a good thing. Thank god for
for letterbox. You know one thing, you know, because the
dryna chron's up there, look at that. But then too,
just like that's the best list thing. They just recently
made a wrestling one called drop Kicked, and I'm very excited.
I've not used it as much as Letterbox, but it's
gonna help me in the gimmick to like keep my
year end lists and everything like that. But uh yeah, is.
Speaker 2: It just like you just keep track of the pay
per views.
Speaker 1: No, it's like Letterbox, where like you can rate events,
you can rate matches separately, everything like that. You can
make lists. So that's why when I like have a
this year, it might not be on the episode. I'll
probably but just be David Nesbus, but I'll still send them.
I like, here's my top ten. A lot easier because
I could put in the notepad. But there's so many
wrestling matches like movies, it's tough to keep up. But
I'll be doing that last episode of The Gimmick two
this weekend. That'll be tons of fun. And then yeah,
that'll that'll be it pretty much. And yeah, I was
the reason I pumped it out. I want to say
a big thank you to everybody of course that supports
is on Patreon, listens, everything like that, and as always,
you guys did support us to make it so we
could make a movie and happy to announce that, Yeah,
we got selected into our seventh festival, so that's really cool.
But then yesterday, funny, it's like fourteen minutes apart, I
got two notifications that we had won two film festivals.
So we won to the Vancouver Independent Film Festival and
the Las Vegas Indie Film Festival. So or so it's
I think it's a Vancouver independent movie maker one. It's tough,
there's a lot of names on these things. But uh yeah,
so that's uh, that's pretty cool, Kirkle. Now we've won three,
we've done Evan, so I think there's a chance we
get double digits by the air, which is not not
what I was Uh, I didn't know what to expect
when we started that, but I didn't want to shoot
that high at the beginning. It's always like, well, let's
let's see what happens. But yeah, we're officially three festival
wins now, pretty nice.
Speaker 2: So I feel like it's still like not hit me
that like people have even seen this movie. Yeah, like
we made this and people have actually seen it now,
and then like but a whole other thing of like
it's going to these these festivals and people are seeing it,
and then it's actually being like like winning in some categories.
It's just it still feels artificial in me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like there's there's people when I look at
the Letterbox watch list and I've watched it that I
don't even know, Like obviously there's mostly our patrons, but
then like, oh, I don't know who Harry.
Speaker 2: Is, but like Travis Nell sucks.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. Yeah. One of the reviewers, well, I shared
on what is it? On Twitter today, So I'm like, oh,
I'm sure some haters can make one star review or whatever, yeah,
but I'm I can't rate it. Taylor dropped a five
star on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's bold. I don't know. I looked it up
on there just to be like, Wow, that's cool, that's
actually on there, but I didn't give it a rating.
But I've kind of been slacking on my letter boxes
of late. I really gotta ramp it up now we're
getting near the end of the year. At least get
my lists in order. Just sometimes when I'm like, Okay,
I watched that movie, but I still I still feel
like I need more time before I just give it
like that rating in the next thing, you know, two
days go along and I'm like, oh, I don't even
remember what I was gonna write to let alone, like
just rate something. I'm usually cheap and just do the
quick little number rating system.
Speaker 1: That's why. And not to try to like uh entrudge
too much on our retro tomorrow. But so to transition
into what we've been watching now, I'm back on the Marsquore,
says he kick. So I'm gonna be watching a lot
of those I watched it departed today.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: I kind of watched a part of maybe once a year,
but that's what I. I had rated it on there
or I'm about to, and I saw you had only
given it a four point five out of five. So
I was pretty shocked by that. That's pretty low score.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's for you're agreeing with I'm bowling you into agreement.
I know. That's that's that's.
Speaker 2: It's out of the five rating, like like, yeah, I
think that's nine out of ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what pen scale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would give it like nine point
five out of ten because it is a lot closer
to a perfect movie. It's just there's some issues that
I feel like I would have liked them to wrap
them up a little bit neater, like especially with the
what's her what's her position? Like the girlfriend lady at
the therapist? Yeah, yeah, like nothing really happens, like with
any of the information that she gets out of it,
Like it's just kind of dies with her, Like I
feel like there was going to be more of like
the important thing.
Speaker 1: But well but but the information she.
Speaker 2: Does have it doesn't really matter, I guess character. Yeah exactly.
So yeah, I kind of go back and forth. But
I also just didn't like her accent in that movie.
But it's like I feel like I'm just splitting hairs
in certain areas to make myself think it's not a
perfect movie. But again, I could probably watch it another
day and be like, yeah, this is this is just perfect.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I couldn't say it's perfect, but it's
still like a five out of five. And I love
that movie. Yeah, so I rewatched that and then I
started watching The Irishman again. There's another mob one, there's
another mark I watched this.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to me that you're just doing this all
at once, Like like for me, it's like, okay, I
could watch like good Fellas one day and then like
maybe in a month similar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get in the mood because it's all
it's still variations and like Marti is still like the
best dude. That's why for me, it's like even like
there's tons of similarities, but then you got like Casino Goodfellas.
Casino and Goodfellows are the closest. But so I'll just
say Goodfellas depart in Irishmen. They're all like mob stuff,
but they're all like very very different type of mobsters
and like different eras and different kind of takes. Like
Irishman is way more about mortality and everything like that. Yeah,
watching it, I haven't fully finished it. Watching again, it
is always tough because the narrow like they deage him
and it looks fine up but like the way he
moves is still like it's it's still a six year
old man playing a thirty year old. It's very tough
to and it's like for the whole movie. It's a
three and a half hour movie, but yeah, I get moves.
And then luckily I was just in a Jack Nicholson mood.
So that's why I watched it Departed, and yeah, I
think I'm gonna just watch a bunch of Before Kills
Flower Moon. I was like, I'm gonna watch every Martin
Scorsese film again, or there might be some other probably
is a few I still seen, maybe some of he
has considered lesser work. But I was like, I'm gonna
do that, and then I fell off, But I think
I'm gonna try, maybe at least even once a month
to get those down because obviously there's lots of movies.
But yeah, so I was in the mood for that,
love that that. As I've said, if people haven't listened before,
that film is uh yes, Superman. There's another one, Gangs
in New York. Another that is like a mobster but
it's like of an old school age I all Leo
movie right, Well, it's either it's either Leo or Denaro.
Speaker 2: It's okay, but it's not a Denaro movie.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's not. And they've only done it was
only Killers Fly in Moon. That's like a Leo and
Denaro movie. That was the big thing, and I like Killers.
It wasn't as fan as everyone else, but Superman Mike.
Because I was watching on Prime, I did circle over
that one. But because I was doing a few more
things that I had to focus on, I put on
Departy because I know it so well. It's like The Department.
It's like The Dark Knight. Can just quote it, but yeah,
gangs in New York. I know there's lots of people
that don't like that. I know lots of people like
are if you on like the love Story? But I
love like it's so fun to see when Scrissese works
with people like Jack and Departed, or like Daniel day
Lewis and gains New York is like the Butcher Man.
He's so damn good. So no Man, I think that's
probably on the board after The Irishman, because it was
it was looking at me today. Irishman. I just put
on because it's slower and there is like it's not
a perfect movie, and there's sometimes I cannot tune out,
but like I don't have to like completely. But I've
already seen it three times, so I got a good
idea for it. But so yeah, that's my trajectory. On
Monday at Bernie's, me and Emily saw Love Actually. That
was tons of fun love that movie that there's a
classic movie where I would give that a ten nowhere
if you had asked me on a critical standpoint, would
I ever give that movie at ten? But just the enjoyment,
it's like the best version of the whole like a
bunch of celebrities together. And I think I also have
a saucepot because it has a lot of actors that
I really allow, like like Hugh Grant Alan, Rickman, Calling
Firth and Liam Neeson like them in a movie all together.
And then there's just little stuff like seeing Andrew Lincoln
before Walking Dead. Have you ever seen Love? Actually?
Speaker 2: I don't think I actually have. I don't think I've
ever seen Love actually. No, to do a little little
mind blow there, I feel like I've started it just
because I've like I think you and Taylor both really
loved that movie. So just throughout the life span of
the podcast, that's been brought up quite a few times.
But for whatever reason, No, I don't maybe maybe like
we threw it on and I just fell asleep, like
I do remember starting. If I don't remember the d points, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think it'd be a Kirkland favorite. But you did,
like again creeping in Kirklan's letter Box. I saw because
the next one we were gonna watch us About Time,
and that's the same director writer, and you also gave
that the low four point five out of five. But no,
that one's more sentimental. We haven't watched it yet, but
I'm going to because I consider About Time like that's
my favorite. Wrong, calm all the time. It's hard, like
it is a comedy. It's more like a I can't
even say dramedy. But it's not like that like laughing
like oh man, we're on Vegas weekend. Like it's not
that type of comedy. But it's like the very like
subtle or like British type of comedy. But yeah, I love.
Actually I get why people don't enjoy and think it's
like because I saw when I pull up my letter
box a lot to like two f fives, two and
a half and then but it's very It's one of
those letter boxes where like the high ends there just
feel good and I get because the people are like, well,
how this is a movie about love because someone cheats
on each other and stuff. It's like, well, but like,
to me, like captures all the things about love. It
like shows the high points, It shows that middle ground,
shows when you first meet somebody, It shows when your
heart's broken, it shows when you're torn and everything like that.
But yeah, Andrew Lincoln, he's did you ever watch Walking Dead?
Speaker 2: Like until he gets the farm, that's what I don't
know what.
Speaker 1: So season two, Yeah you're out quick. Yeah, but yeah,
it's fun seeing in that role because he's like this
like like weird love sick weirdo and uh he but
in you know, Walking Day, he's Rick and he's just
bad ass and everything. But yeah, this is just a
stack cast like Truetail Edge of fours in there Cure Knightley,
Emma Thompson. But uh so that led us to I
had seen it a little bit like pieces, but never
fully seen enough I think to count. So for the
first time in my life, I watched Bridget Jones Diary
last night with Emily. I'm not sure do you know
what this movie is?
Speaker 2: I know what it is.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it though, Okay, yeah, so and I
and because the reason is I like callin Firth, I
like you Grant. They are in that movie, like it's
the Love Triangle Dems. I'm like, well, this is a
perfect time to watch it because I call him Firth.
I fucking love calling firth man and you Grant too.
He's just such a good charismatic I'm excited to see heretic.
But it was actually a decent movie. I was surprised
how much like Rene Zell, where like it's all in character,
but like it's not to the same level but reminds
me a little bit of it's gonna be weird comparison,
but like Anna Ferris and the scary movies where she's
just so down to be like the butt of the
joke or like embarrass herself. I know it's a character,
but still I could see some people look at the
script and be like, oh, like, I'm gonna look like
an idiot if I do this, but she does it
like so well, Like there's a part in the movie
where she has to run down the block just completely
in her underwear and it's snowing and it's obvisoly these
are all actors, right, but there's like dozens and dozens
of extras and she's just running down half naked selling
the scene and it's like, yeah, like go girl, like
you earn this and everything. The reason it was like
because of that. And then the fourth one is coming
out in Peacock in November, so I was like, wow. Yeah,
So I was like, I like these two. Hugh Grant
is Hugh Grant from the nineties, exactly what you expect,
Like he's that character. Colin Firth took me off guard
because I thought he's gonna play like the lovable guy
that's trying to get Bridget. He's a complete, like bitter asshole.
Like he's not likable at all in a good way.
He's not likable at all. And I was like, oh,
I didn't know they're taking this route with them, but no,
I'd get like four and a half on the letterbox.
I I enjoyed. It was like an enjoyable rom com.
It was the same company that produced Love actually, so
I guess it's just another British type of thing. But
rene Zel Workers not British, but the other two are,
so it's kind of weird. But no, it was. It
was enjoyable time. And then I'm trying to think that
there's anything else, oh that I've been watching. I don't
think so of So you can check on the feed.
We reviewed Penguin with the finale reviews up there, so
you can check that out. But I think that's it,
I guess, or catching on some like reality Netflix, like
you know The Circle. I think we're finally Emily's never finished.
I think we're gonna get back and watch it. Everyone
loves Raymond because Rain Romano's in The Irishman, so it's like,
we need to finish Raymond because I love Raymond so
oh thank you he is he plays Robert. He plays
Robert Niro on Al Pacino's Lawyer or something like that,
and he's actually a good dramatic actor when he wants
to be. And yeah, thank you, Mike. You know my letterbox,
bet I should double check. Yeah, I watched The Banch's
of inter Sheering again. Did you ever watch that movie, Kirkling?
I doubt it. It's with Colin Fairhill. I'm throwing so
many curveballs out of here right now.
Speaker 2: I gotta do a lot of googling today.
Speaker 1: Sam says, Share Island was on my face all time,
always put on rainy aesthetic, old school detective's classical deal. Yeah,
I need to watch it. I've only seen it twice,
and it was both the years when it came out.
When I watched it, I remember not being like disappointed,
but being like like, Okay, I really liked it. But
I was expecting this is gonna be because everyone's like, oh,
Marty's doing horror again, and I was like, this is
gonna be my favorite movie year and it wasn't. But
I want to watch it now older And I will
say before I get to Banges, I did see Anora.
Everyone everyone was asking about that. I will talk about
saving that for Tress told you because I'm gonna be
ranking because I won't be here for the end of
the year. I'm gonna rank my twenty twenty four movies
right now. I'll get my full Anora review on there.
But I'll say, Mikey Madison, she's she's gonna get that
fucking oscar. I'm telling you, But Bangie, So it's a
movie where it's Colin Farrell and it's Brendan Gleeson who
we just saw on Joker Too recently. Their friends, Yeah,
they're friends for like a long time, and then Brendan
Gleeson's character just decides one day like I'm not gonna
be your friend anymore. And he goes why, like you're
just too nice and you're wasting my time and that's it, right,
And then what happens is he like, I'm doing some minusplots,
but I'm pretty sure they show this in the trailers
where they if he's like, if you talk to me again,
I'm gonna cut off one of my fingers and send
it to you. And I'm gonna keep doing that every
time you talk to me, and callin Pharaoh proceeds to
talk to him, and you're gonna imagine what happens, and
it goes it's a wild movie, but it's all like
it's a great movie at the end of the day,
but like sincerity and why it's good to be nice
to people, and it has a lot to do with like, hey,
looking back at your entire life. I watch it purely
because I was on the Penguin hype, but that also
got me in a call in faral mood. So it
was I highly recommend. I think you would like it.
I actually don't think it's like weird enough if you
ever watch it with shit, I don't think you'll be
watching Banshees anytime soon. But it's a it's a really
good movie. So that's that's what.
Speaker 2: I've been out too interesting.
Speaker 1: What have you been watching?
Speaker 2: What have I been watching? Daredevil? That's, you know, hint
at a super cool retrospective that Taylor and I are
gonna be doing. We're gonna be going through Daredevil leading
up to Daredevil Born Again. It's been announced already on
this cast, so it's not new news, but uh yeah,
I jumped in there, and man, I am absolutely hooked
with that show. I am. I'm basically done season one now.
I think I have two episodes left, but I'll have
to check in with Taylor because I don't want to
like go past season one until we record the first Like, yeah,
it's gonna be tough though, Yeah, no it is. That's
what I'm gonna be like, Oh, Taylor, I hope you're
hope you're watching these because I'm just I'm just so
glued to them. There it's it's it's so good. I
actually was surprised I got a lot further along in
season one than I did, like the like I thought.
I watched the first four episodes, I pretty much got
to like the end of the first season. But it's fun.
It's been fun going through it again. And yeah, it's
I it's interesting because I don't think if Daredevil Born
Again came out, I don't think I would have like
rewatched this show at all, which is like such a
disservice because it is so good and Charlie Cox is
so fantastic and it every everyone's so good in it.
So yeah, I've been really really enjoying that's. Uh, check
out our retro that we'll be doing for this, says.
Speaker 1: He wonders how much time ended up being in between
the retro when when the retro was announced and when
Born Again releases. I I don't know, because I feel
like the Daredevil retro was joked around a little. But
at first I feel like it got official win they
did that D twenty three announce so I think that
was the official Okay, we're doing it, But I think
before it was just kind of like a meme, like, yeah,
Daredevil retro. But now it's it's.
Speaker 2: It didn't feel real. Tell It's like, okay, Dared Devil's
coming out, you guys doing that retro. It's like, oh gosh, okay, yeah,
let's let's start this another retro. Because you know, like
most the time we do retros just movies, so it's
pretty easy, one and done, maybe three movies here and there,
and it's not that bad. You can do it once
a week. But like doing a full length series, especially
these Netflix ones where it's it's not just like eight episodes,
it's twelve, yeah, with hour long episode. But no, I've
been loving it. It's been really really good. So I've
been watching that. What else I've been watching Shane. I
just finished Vox Macina season three, the newest season, and
that show Man, Like I'm gonna have to look at
it all, but I think that's my show of the year,
Like it is so good. I it blows my mind.
How like every season is just a ten out of
ten and it's so good and they just do so
like such a good job at spreading out the folks
amongst all the crew, so like everybody has their own
like importance and significance and yeah, it's it's just so
well done. I highly highly recommend that show. It's on
Prime and they've been announced again another season, so I
don't know why they wouldn't be. Like I feel like
every season is one hundred percent of Automatos, Like everybody
just loves the show. It's just top top quality. So
uh yeah, that I was a really really good one
to go through. Lance Reddick is like the voice of
the main villain in it, so they do like a
little like not you know, in Memorium or whatever to
him Rest in peace. I just man, I love I
love like the cadence of his voice and all the
careers that he's that he's done throughout the years. Obviously
you know he's done like act like other acting as well,
some in Risiden Evil. But yeah, it's it was kind
of sad like watching this and just like and just
like hearing his voice and it's just like, oh, that's yeah,
it's sad that we're not going to be any more
of this because he's he's just so good. But yeah, yeah,
rest in peace, Lance Reddick. Other than that, Shane and
I started going through the Shrek movies, went from one
to three, four and five Art on whatever service we
were watching them on. I think it was like Crave
or something, which are four and five or I guess
five isn't on there yet.
Speaker 1: Five definitely not on there. Yeah, check back in twenty
twenty six on there.
Speaker 2: There you go. So Shrek four wasn't on there, so
we'll off to look for that one. And then I
want to do the post some Boots movies because Shane
I realized that we actually haven't seen those movies. We've
only seen the last wish there's only two, Okay.
Speaker 1: I thought the other one like it one before the
ones in like a Netflix TV show, that's all okay, yeah,
and I think the animations like no, it's definitely like
we had to be a little less than there. But yeah,
there's only the two movies, and I feel like, yeah,
same thing. I should go back and watch that first
one too, because I've definitely seen it. But it's been
a it's been a good yeah.
Speaker 2: So and that was the only like like off series
like from the main tracks.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, there's a rumor that they're making a Donkey one,
but I'm like, not too late.
Speaker 2: I think it's too late as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then again, Aspy in twenty twenty six and
a Shrek blows up again. Maybe it's not too late, right,
so you know.
Speaker 2: I feel like Eddie's hype is not as high as
it used to be.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I still haven't got around to watching because
I don't think we were top of these on cast.
I I wanted to watch the new Beverly Hills clock clocke.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, but I was like, I'm gonna
watch them all together before I watched that, and then
I never did. I still want to, but I think
that did all right for Netflix. And but yeah, I
don't know he's been smart because he did that. He
did which a couple of years ago was really good
that my name is Dolemite. Did you ever see that?
That was really good? And then last year he did
because I'll be watching again this Christmas movie called Canny
Cam Lane. But yeah, he's not in like too much
theatrical stuff, so we don't really have a gauge for
like how which is smart probably for him. And he
keeps saying he's gonna do stand him again, but I
don't fucking believe him. He was my favorite stand up
back in the day.
Speaker 2: But yeah, last thing I saw him in was uh
you people, And I wasn't really a fan.
Speaker 1: Of that movie, right, Yeah that was that sucks. It's
such a good like concept. Yeah, good pairing and like
I just feel like, oh man anymore is at that
perfect age to play like the asshole dad and like
he did it, but like it just wasn't the best material.
Speaker 2: No, definitely definitely agree, but yeah, going through those again,
those track movies are just top quality. I do think
the second one is my favorite, but like they're still
just so good. Three a bit of a bit of
a you know, drop off compared to the other two,
but I think it's still top quality.
Speaker 1: Four is a bigger drop off too.
Speaker 2: Yeah to me, Likeumpy or Dumpty or whatever the hell is?
Speaker 1: No, that's put some movie. Skin will still skin is
that one? Yeah, And that's it's a classic, which I
usually like those tales. It's like I wish I didn't
have a family and then he like goes back and
done and he has to win them all back and stuff.
I usually like those tales, but it just was like
the magic wasn't there. But yeah, Adulton agrees with Yeah,
I think so, Like I think the first one I
wouldn't like judge anybody if they didn't say if that
was their number one, because like it's a great movie
as well, but two just has like a cert even
just those opening credits with that fucking song was spammed
on the radio the year it came accidentally in Love
every time, because I think Shrek probably came out in
March or May, and every time we went to the
beach in the summer, I swear nine to nine point
nine was playing fucking accidentally in Love. They spam that.
I wonder if it's being a Canadian artist, but yeah,
what's her name? Eric? Like Prince Charming, he's fucking awesome
that he's so good.
Speaker 2: So he's so good. Yeah, but it's the whole soundtrack
on like always it is just so good. So yeah,
that's That's been lots of fun to go through. Yeah,
I was just looking for these like series to power through.
He went through Harry Potter's really quickly, and I think
the next one, I told you guys off cast, do
the Pirates movies those are always good?
Speaker 1: And saw next and then.
Speaker 2: Yell, we'll watch I'll just throw it on series. Oh yeah,
this is Shrek from the opening, like really intense with
like the pig like kidnapping someone.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's just the first movie is all slow burned,
like it just waits. It's like Adam wakes up in
a bathroom in the first twenty minutes. It's just like,
why I'm in this bath Who the fuck are you? Like,
it's it's the first Saw. Try the first Saw is.
And I'm not saying this is a bad thing, very
slow paced, takes it's takes his time and everything because
it's just two guys in a bathroom.
Speaker 2: So we're those ones being streamed these days.
Speaker 1: I think I can't. I think it's also one of
those where they're kind of like all over they're like
sums on Netflix, sums here. I think there's some on
Crave right now and everything. So that's yeah, it looks
like Mike says, I only saw a first way. Man,
it's a Shrek four could not be bothered finishing. I
would say it's that bad, but definitely feels like like
I agree Shrek three is a step down, but I
don't think it's too far a step down. Four is more,
but at least I think with five. Now, I think
it's been so long that there's some there's some meat
on the bone there, and I think it will do
well and now you'll have all the Ogres growing up.
And I just hope they don't do the trope that
Shrek and Fuel and are broken up, like I get
back together, because I feel like like least legacy sequels
always do that where they separate the people in love
so they can get them back. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: I agree. I okay, it's what else.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I also did a couple David Fincher films, watch Those
of My Dad on the weekend watch Fight Club. Yes,
first time I had seen it in a long time. Uh,
and it is amazing. It's really really good, especially like
watching it knowing like like after seeing it like you
know before, like like going through it again, really really
interesting and uh right there, very nice. Yeah, it's really
really interesting, especially going through it the Harry Potter series
and having like Helena Bottom Carter think that's what you
have you heard there is like a very different role
than Bellatrick's. The strange like different accent. Everything was interesting.
But yeah, that movie's just really really really.
Speaker 1: Good, which is funny not to like we do this sometimes.
Why would be a drama podcast? Because I also started
watching the Harry Potter series, so I've done the first year.
I guess I didn't mention that I gotta go back
and watch Chamber because those first two movies are really
good at putting me asleep, because they're just like common movies.
And I'm somebody you guys can go back and check
out we did do Harry Potter retro. I'm not on
them because I was just too busy to be on
them at that point. But I am a huge defender
of the first two because I know so many people like, oh,
it's the Kitty movies and it gets Baron's darker. I
got them ranked very high, like they're my top I
think probably.
Speaker 2: Two by far my favorite movie of the whole series.
Speaker 1: It was mine. But I've been I've been having like
what happened to me with Lord of the Rings, where
now I keep coming back to Philosopher's Stone. I think
it's just gonna such so good at the world building,
like just the setup and everything. But like Chamber, I
think is either my second favorite third like it's it's
up there. But I love those those first two. I
love what Chris Columbus and I did. I do like
the love the more kittie feeling. I'm somebody hot take that.
I think like Prisoner Askaban's like bottom too. I know
everyone considers it the best. I'm not in that camp
at all. But I didn't know this that Emma uh,
the guy that plays Lockhart, was married to Emma Thompson,
but they he had an affair with hell Barna Carter.
I didn't know at all. But this was all before
Harry Potter, and they're all in the Harry Potter series.
Obviously they don't have any scenes together. But Emmi told
me this, and I was like crazy. And that's the
thing where it's like back to love actually back to
what I've been watching. It's crazy because this happens in
two thousand and three. Her storyline is about like her
getting cheated on, so it's like a reflection of real
life and it's fucking crazy. Liam Neeson's storyline is about
him getting over the death of his wife and then
the year later his wife passes away from that snowboarding accident.
So it's fucking crazy. Like Love actually has these things
where it's like just like.
Speaker 2: They're Simpson's these events.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, and that was the other thing again, We're
going we're all over tonight before we get the topics.
But it's so funny. In this Bridget Jones Diary series,
the two love interests are Colin Firth and Hugh Grant,
who are in though in love actually they do a
love actually. They did like a twenty minute short film
sequel for charity called Red Nose Day, and they brought
in Patrick Dempsey who becomes a Bridget Jones love interest
down the line. And then in this new one, che
WoT tel Edge fors forr love interest who is in
love actually, so all her in the series these four movies,
all her love interests have been people that are like males.
In the love Actually series, it's fucking crazy, you know,
it's so crazy. Superman Mike says, the first three are
by far the best. Five and six. I got the
books and felt so weird and incomplete. And that's that's
the thing that I've always heard from the book readers.
I haven't, so I never have that. I it's funny
I didn't say four. I do think it's tough because
I like to put four as my favorite, but I
fucking absolutely hate the whole Harry, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: Hair?
Speaker 1: No, that's fine, everyone memes on the hair. I'm glad
because I gets a sign of the times. It's that
Harry run like break apart for half an hour because
it's just so stupid like this, and I hate the
wrong character. I always blow because that's her fair. But
he's a fucking idiot like he is, He's a dummy.
Speaker 2: Jake Rownes is part one that whole Oh don't even
get me started. Oh yeah, the run of that show.
Speaker 1: J K. Rowing is also a fucking asshole and has
said a lot of bad things these past ten years.
But the one thing she did say was right that
she regretted not putting Harry in her mind together absolutely
is what should have been done, because Ron's a fucking Yeah,
Ron's a fucking idiot with the IQ of a toad.
And then like just the way like he knows if
Harry's his best friend. The past three school years, there's
been so much crazy shit happening to Harry, all this stuff,
everything you get the Ginger hate. I'm married to Ginger,
I got three genier kids, probably too more on the
way Dalton's nothing against Ginger, It just Ron. But like
so much magical weird shit has happened to Harry, right,
So when he's like, I don't know how my name gone,
the gallat fire, Ron goes you put a bloody in that,
didn't you a fucking asshole, it's just like really, like, dude,
and I get it right because it goes, well, they're
teens whatnot. It's just I'm all fine for a division
of characters, but if you're gonna do it, you have
to make it something believable. And I just felt like
Hermione or Ron turning on Harry for that reason, like
and they would know Harry, Like at this point later
on the series, he does get the whole like, oh,
she thinks you would chose one, but I am the
chosen one. Like Harry gets a bit more cocky, but
at that point in four he's not that yet. And
it's just like, that's so Goblet is like I think
I still put Goblet as my favor because I fucking
I'll probably say that the hair the Baltimore comeback scene
might be the best scene the whole series in the
graveyard and he's touch that is like there's a lot
of great Yeah, there's a lot of great scenes this series,
but that's where it's like that whole and even then,
like the Trials, I love all that shit. I love
the prom like, I like all that stuff. So that's
why it's up. It probably is number one, but I
still like that storyline is what makes it go back
and forth between Chamber and the first one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm pretty similar with you. Then. Yeah, I'm
not a fan of like the decision with Ron in
those moments, like going.
Speaker 1: Through part one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely all is part one. Like I was getting
so angry and like it's a long time that they're
just like looking for the horre crux and then then
he's just like being so but hurt and.
Speaker 1: It's like the right because he's yea, But yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Just don't like watching it. You know, I've seen a
better version of that. And yeah, Ron is definitely I
don't know, I feel like I I like them a
lot more in the earlier portion, so I try to
remember that. But yeah, he definitely has a lot of
those ones. And I've always been in the camp that
I wanted Hermione and Harry together versus that, and.
Speaker 1: Especially because this is hopefully dude in the show, no
disrespect to them because they were younger and it's so tough.
But like I think Harry and Genny in those movies
they had the chemistry of like water and oil. They
it just feels odd. And that's why I like Superman
Mike when he points out five and six they felt
they gutted the books. This is why I always when
anybody's like, oh, stupid they're making the show, it's like no, man,
Like the movies are there, and like like that's why
I'm so excited for these because I'm not never read
the books, but I just feel like there's so much
stuff that maybe the Ginny and Harry stuff or other
stuff will feel better in the show because like, oh
we got I'm gonna just assume it could be more.
But like Penguin, like let's say each season's eight hours,
it's like, oh, so much time to do this stuff.
And that's why I always push back on Okay, no,
like that it's a good thing that we have the
show because we can do this stuff where that's where
it's like Lord of the Rings. I agree with, like
you could do that, but I feel like with Harry Potter,
I feel that that complaints more that it's gutted than
the Lord of the rings books and everything, so yeah, yeah,
and see there you go to be fair, Jennie gets
a lot more to do the books, and that's what
I say, like in the show there and again though
it's not even that, it's just like the chemistry. I
just think the actors have nothing going on there. Okay,
Deathly Hall's Got Part one gotta be the worst movie.
I'm not gonna say it's the worst. I still enjoy it.
But or are you saying in the whole series? Okay,
I thought even of all time, like Dalton, you're being
very hYP in the series.
Speaker 2: I'd probably agree with them.
Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm weill rewatch me and I've
never ranked them a letter box, but I think for me,
it's the Order of Phoenix just to find. For me,
it's kind of like a setup movie where it is
definitely okay, cool you get to see Baltmore and Doumblore fight,
but I just feel like it's a lot of like, oh,
let's get Umberge in there. Yeah, okay, go Dalton, you
clarify good, my bad first sinuating that. But uh yeah,
for me, it's like it just feels like there's nothing
that I returned back to other than like, okay, yeah,
some big stuff happens with Serious and Baltimore Doubleedore, But
I just yeah, that's the bottom for me. But I
will say this that there's no Harry Potter not talking
about beasts. There's no Harry Potter movie that I say
is bad. And I don't think there's anyone that's like
below a seven at least for me. That's all to me.
Before the MSU started, that was the best franchise like
that had bad amount of movies that didn't have a
bad one in it. I would always say Harry Potter
is the best one to do it. Now the MSU
obviously they've had a bit more, but I'll say MSU
phase you know one to three's that the King holders?
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, absolutely, what else I've been watching? Okay,
fight Club, yes, brought that one up. And then my
other day of Finchure film that I had never seen
in my entire life, and my dad always wanted me
to watch this movie and I finally did. Twenty twenty
four is the Game? Have you seen this movie?
Speaker 1: It's funny you were I just watched it this year.
You weren't on newscast last year or.
Speaker 2: Lash you one last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was I gonna say, uh no last week
because we were talking about Fincher because he's remaking He's
doing the American Squid Game, and I was saying to
Taylor that the game, like to me, has some similarities there.
So that's why. Yeah, And I I really enjoy that movie.
I love Michael Douglas, love Sean.
Speaker 2: Penn Man, Holy craws. I did not know he was
gonna be in that movie. And he's like a baby.
He looks so young, and I just I haven't seen
enough of him in like like he like I loved
him in Mystic River. Is that on won ask? Yeah, Yeah,
he's so fucking good in that movie. But like just
to have him in a more like minor ish role,
I guess, like in this week, like a more sidecarre
like he's just he's so good at all of his mannerisms,
just being like a little little I don't know, asshole
little brother. He's just he's so good in these roles.
So I want to see more Sean Penn stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, i'd recommend to if you like the asshole Rold.
There's a movie called Carlito's Way. It's a mobster movie,
but it's a mobster movie with al but the two
leads are Al Pacino and s Chanpenn, and Sean Penn's
like a little fucking asshole on it. He's great. And
then it's not older Sean or it's not younger, it's
older Champenn. But you should watch Milk. That's the one
he wanted. Second Oscar for really really good at he
plays like the first gay politician like to be elected,
and unfortunately he was assassinated because of that. But like
Josh Brolin is this other guy he works with that's
like super homophobic, and like he's like really good, not
because of that, but just like he's good at just
being this like because there's rumors he was gay, and
he's like doing this whole like tormented thing. And Chance
Franco's in it, you know, but back then it was
it was really good. But it's it's a really really
good movie that it's just called Milk, and it's it's fantastic.
So yeah, Sean Penn at one point I considered the
grace actor of all time. Not as much anymore, but
I did. He was my first ever man crush.
Speaker 2: There, so nice. Yeah, I know, he's he's so fantastic,
Like Michael Douglas is so good in it too, and
it's it's it's been funny because like this is one
that I remember my dad like showed my sister like
back in the day and then like they were talking
about it, and then I'd like, Oh, what do you
guys talking about? Like oh, the game, but like we
can't tell you anything about it, like it's gotta be
all hush ushcause and like you know, I made it
to twenty and twenty four and not being spoiled on
what this movie was. And definitely I feel like there's
three different times I like was was fooled and kind
of what was going on. So definitely the very ending,
I would say, but the roof, yeah, it was like
that's really just it, that's really just it. Yeah, and
then what happens after it's like, oh my gosh, this
is this is crazy.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty elaborate too, like especially the ending of
the game. It's it's something. But I think it's because
it's like one of Fincher's more underrated ones. I don't
think people have really like I think film nerds have,
but I don't think general audience has had that much
because I don't think I think it came not too
far after Alien three. I could be wrong. I think
that's funny, and you know what's funny is you know Jinks.
But everyone that read Ben afflex Batman script, a lot
of people compared it to the game. So I'm very
curious what and it was supposed to be like because
it was supposed to be him and then death Stroke
was gonna be the villain. It was gonna be like
death Stroke like ruining his life like piece by piece
and as you can see, like how that happens to
Michael Douglass in the movie. But apparently that's what his
script read like, was the game. And when people said this,
like fuck, like think about like a Batman but the
game like Bruce Wayne like and Ben Affleck in that movie,
I'm like, man Like, obviously I'm very happy with the Batman,
but that does like for me, it's like, fuck, that
sounds really juicy. I know what I at least like
is just like the script. I'd love to like get that. Okay,
So no, I was wrong. He he did the game
right after seven. So no, he did because Alien three
is nineteen ninety two, and then he goes on to
make Seven three years later, and then two years later
the Game. Okay, so it wasn't actually that far from
the Alien three. So it just shows everybody you can
go make a movie like Alien three and then you know,
two years later make seven and the game, which is
you know, at close Range with Sean Pennon this year.
I really enjoyed it. What is that at close range?
Speaker 2: It sounds so I've never heard of that movie walking.
Speaker 1: I think I've seen this a long time. This even
baby or Sean p Oh and his brother's in there,
Crispen too. There you go so nice?
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I was. I loved both those Dave
venture films, and I feel like I haven't seen like
much more than that of his stuff. I guess see
he did the Social Network really yeah, okay, so then
I have I've seen that, Okay, Benjamin Button, I've seen
pretty much all of these that I'm looking at, except
for the Girl with the Dragon tattoo. I never never
watched Benjamin Button. I started it and then I saw
the length of film, and I'm like, I don't have
time for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you watch did you watch Killer? Last year?
Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did that. I'm trying to think what else
is like another big one? Obviously you won't get around
to it and they can't. Two seasons Zodiac. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: That's one with that one with like Downy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ruffalo and Jill and Hall. Yeah, really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's check out the Zodiac doc on Netflix.
Speaker 1: I'm already on episode three. Okay, it's fine. Actually it's not.
I think the problem with the Zodiac because this is
all about like who the Zodiac could have been. But
that's always the problem is they didn't catch them. So
it's like they're making insinuations about, hey, we're pretty sure
it's one hundred percent of this guy, but it's still
one hundred percent. So it's just like it was. It's fine,
but I'm not. I didn't walk away being like, oh,
this is one of the best dogs I've seen, the
one I'm interested in it is it's coming out in
two weeks. Is that? God? What is it? She was
that Canadian little girl. It's like Bene Ramsey or Jane
and a Ramsey, remember that, You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: So close to the name and it's just I feel
like I can hear it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyways, they're making a doc about that, and
that's why, said Emily, that's another situation where they didn't
catch the person. But I remember that being like that
was a big thing. Maybe a little bit before your time,
but I remember when I was a kid, my mom
said that was like a huge thing because the report
was just that they she got stolen off the front yard,
and it was That's when I feel like that's when
that shift was happening in the nineties, when parents were like, oh,
we can't let it. Kids starting to play out signymore
because they never found the guy that and they never
found her. I don't think so. Yeah, I can't remember,
but yeah, Zodia had content running dry. I didn't find
the New Doctor that documentary that interesting. I agree with you, Sam,
So yeah, I say, cirkling, if you're planning to watching it,
put on the but on a back burner, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I wasn't super
keen on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. It's just like there's nothing, there's nothing new.
You can't like we didn't catch them. It's just like
I didn't watch the episode but let's it was the
this latest season Unsold Mysteries did an episode on Jack
the Ripper. I'm like, what new can he tell? And
I didn't watch it because I'm like, what new can
I know about Jack the Ripper? They never caught him,
so it's just like like and like unsolved mystery to me.
The point is like episode ends and then it's a
call of summer go there. Who's calling in twenty twenty four? Like, hey,
I call this information on.
Speaker 2: Jack the guy that looks pretty sketchy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my great uncle uncle said he was in a bar.
This time. It's like no, it's like, it's just it's tough,
but they know what people like me are gonna click
on it.
Speaker 2: So the other one from Fincher that I do really like,
his Panic Room. You've seen that one, I'm sure you.
Speaker 1: See, yeah, a long time ago. I want to rewatch
it because I forget, like Stuart's in there when she's
really young and Jodi Foster and I feel like one
of the bad guys is a star became a star.
It's not, is it Hughlauri. It's somebody like that.
Speaker 2: I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: That's probably who I'm thinking of I think forced Okay, no,
that's a stat cast right there, but no, I've not
seen that in ages.
Speaker 2: So that was one that I remember being on TV
quite a bit, Like I like, I feel like I've
seen this like probably five times because it was just
randomly on one of those channels that, yeah, they had
like natural like commercial breaks and then you'd come back
and then keep watching it. But yeah, Dave fincher Man,
I feel like every time I see his name now,
like I just I mean, it didn't it's not like
it didn't have that effect. I guess already he's a
more well known actor. But just looking at like the
whole list of movies, it's like, wow, these are actually
all bangers. In my mind, gone girl, of course that's.
Speaker 1: He's on my Mount Rushmore, Snolan, Scresz, Kubrick and him.
It's just because fight Club man, that's that's a ten.
That that that's a.
Speaker 2: If you just it's like, yeah, he's amazing. But like
everything else, like Dan, it's quite the and like mine
trippy movies too, which I really I feel like that's
a big I don't know if there's mind trippy moments
in it that usually get some some points in my book.
M that's it. That's all I've really been watching.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it. Well, we'll take an ad break, actually,
we'll take her first AD break, and then we will
be back. We'll talk about these trailers because we went
on a couple of rantswer but you know, it's it's fine,
We're gonna make up. There's only two of us now,
it's gotta gotta fill the airtime. But we got some
Patreon questions, so it will be right back and we
are back. So this doesn't have to do with any
of the topics, but we're gonna ask it because you
guys will be I'm not gonna be on it because
I won't be there for part two, but you guys
are gonna be talking about Oh Dalty, You're right, no Quinin. Yeah,
then it's funny you said that because as I was
making the listening, I feel like something's wrong. Then yeah,
I feel really bad for not saying and that Quentin
is definitely on there. And then it's like a coin
flip for Kubrick and Fincher because like, I love a
lot of Kubrick's stuff and like shining to me, that's
the greatest horror movie all time, So it's that's like
the same thing. So no adulting your right, because even
when I said, I'm like, this feels wrong, I feel
like I'm forgetting somebody. But yeah, I would put easily
Quinton over the other two for me. So yeah, it's Nolan,
Quinton Scorsese. And then that fores lot's tough. But talking
about some directors really Scott, you know another great director.
Back next week Gladiator two The Boys. We'll be reviewing
that and then later on this week you'll begin the
Gladiator one retrospective. So Mike would asked, what are your
final Wicked slash Gladiator two box office predictions? So I
obviously now we have Wicked that's tracking a lot. I'm
just gonna go overall like because I think the I
think the opening weekend for Gladiators anywhere from fifty to seventy.
I think Wicked it's like one hundred plus. But I'm
gonna ask you, do you think Wicked could break a
billion dollars? Could be like this year's Barbie and now
it's building up the whole Wicked eater or like the
Glicked which I like saying more because I don't like
saying licked clicked, So it's like Wicked and Glady are
put together, so clicked.
Speaker 2: Don't like that.
Speaker 1: I see, I don't like Wiki Eater or whatever it is.
I don't like wiki Yeah, yeah, I don't like that one.
I don't like that one. So I'm a I'm a clicked,
clicked guy. But some people are saying, oh no, we
actually got it. We're gonna have our you know, Barbaraheimer again,
because both are doing well. But do you think that
can hit a billion dollars Wicked because it's getting a
lot of hype right now.
Speaker 2: I want to say no, but like I feel like
it also is possible because for me, I have zero
hype for this movie. I'm just like not really a
Wizard of Oz fan at all. And everything I see
for the trailer, you know, no offense. Mike. I know
you're you're looking forward to it, but I feel like
every time I see the ground, just like, man, this
is zero interest for me.
Speaker 1: Like like awful experience to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm just not looking forward to it. And
then like I'm like, I don't know, sitting there with
she and she's like, yeah, no, I think we're gonna
go see this we're in Toronto, like this is this
is like we're exciting, like you and her, I'm not
going to Toronto. I'm okay, that's what. Just just her and
her friends that she's going, so so they'll probably go
see which is great because you know, I don't have
to have a reason to not want to go see
that with her. But I just feel like there's more
and more people that are like surprising me with her
like level of interest, but also people that maybe aren't,
like I don't know, like the most like moviegoer type people.
Like it's like like if they see like a handful
of movies out of the year, like Wicked's gonna be
one of them, because it's just yeah, they love Ariana
or or whatever, whatever the reasons are.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked you. Like it feels like similar
to Barbie in a sense where that kept building up
and it's like everyone you knew was gonna see Barbie.
I've still now, Well now I know my mom and
my sister they're going, and thankfully they're gonna take the
girls because Gwen wanted to go. I'm like, I'm not
seeing that it's over two and a half hours. I
now granted if she if she really wanted to go,
as a father, yes I go take her. But it
was one of those it just like I'd like to
see Wick. It's like yeah, like we can definitely much
it at home, but now Grandma wants to take her.
I'm like, yeah, go. But I do feel like it
is building a bit more of people wanting to see
it that are just randos.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean I was surprised when Lion King
made a billion, so hell, I am anything gonna happen now.
I think even if it doesn't hit a billion, though,
it's still gonna really really perform well, Like I think
it would be over the three quarter to that point,
like eight hundred plus, I would say safely would be
like a like I don't even know what it's tracking or.
Speaker 1: Any three quarter. At first, I was like, I thought,
you're just on like three hundred three, three hundred thousands.
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at any of the tracking or anything,
but just yeah, like in my mind, like I feel
like it would be like over eight hundred but uh hmm, yeah,
I'm gonna say not quite a billion though, if I
have to put my chip somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mike's rice is the great reviews are helping
with the hype for both. Yeah, I agree. I think
that's the thing. Glad Here definitely sounds like it's got
good reviews, but it's still like, oh, it's not as
good as the first. But that to me, it's like
I'd never thought it was gonna be like not everything
can be top Gun Maverick. But I think people are
just saying it's a good time. You gotta see in
the big screen. I think for me, I'm gonna say
Wicked is gonna hit a billion. I think the only
reason is because it's gonna There's a lot of stuff
like Lion King and off steyut Craven, you got nos Frat,
what's the other fan? Oh you have Mulwana that's tough too,
and isn't there nothing?
Speaker 2: It's still surprises me.
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: I feel like there's no marketing and my oh, Sonic
rite that.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like this season has a
lot of family oriented stuff. But for me, like, let
me just look at see what Wonka did, cause I
feel like it's gonna do better than Wank, Like Wicked
will do better than Wonka. And I remember that having
a so that made six hundred and thirty. So I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna say one hundred percent it's
gonna hit a billion, but I'm gonna say it hits
a billion and won't surprise me because I could see
it being around throughout the Christmas box office weekend and
people just still going to it seeing it again. Like
I really like Wicked because like, to me, Wicked is
also like if you talk about a four quadrants movie
for everybody, like the new movie about wizard of Oz
granted that generation not to be morbid of you. I
like Wizard of Oz a lot, but I mean like
the people that grew up with it, Like I have
a grand I only have one grandparent left, but she
was alive when like Wizard of Oz came out, right,
she's still like luckily in her right mind that if
she wanted to see a movie, she won't because my
grandm won't leave the house. But if she wanted to pick, oh,
I've seen Wizard of Oz. That's what that has. That
has like that old old generation of even if they
don't want to see a new movie, they don't care
about musicals, like oh yeah, I remember Wizard of Oz.
It's a special movie, so I think that's why if
it's still around for Christmas, which I think it will be,
I think it's gonna get a lot of business there
because they not thankfully, but like the New Lion King
not tracking well. To me, it's like, well duh. I
just think people were happy to go see that once
and they didn't need another one. Sonic too, I think
will be huge, but like more for like the young boys,
sort of like I don't think Sonic two or Sonic
three will be wicked numbers wicked, So I think it's
gonna be it's gonna if it's not gonna hit a billion,
it's gonna be like Multiverse Madnas where it's like nine
twenty five, nine fifty, like really close. But I'm I'm
smelling a billion And Gladiator. I think it's like, say, oh, no,
topic a mat trate that was a billion dollar movie. Gladiator.
I think it's like a little tougher because I imagine that's
rated R, right, Gladiator too, like the first one that
you just wash it right, it's rated R. Imagine.
Speaker 2: I don't think it is rated R. No, uh second
one to the first one. No, it is the first
one rate AR the first one, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah for strong bloody violence. So that's what I got
rad R for. I just put in rated R and
that said on Wikipedia, So so that hurts a bit more.
But I think that like same thing. I think if
they can keep it the Christmas like I think the
Sony box office that they think of, like, oh, people
will go to Craven. I think people probably just rad
see Gladiator too, same thing. It'll hit on some of
those like yeah, I still Gladiator when I was a
teen son let's go see it. So I'm gonna say Gladiator.
I'm just gonna say it's gonna be. It's it's tough.
I feel like bad saying this because you never know,
but I feel like it's gonna I'm gonna go above
five hundred million, don't know where, but I feel comfortable
in that five hundred to six hundred. I think getty
higher than that. It's like then it's like really doing good.
But I think five to six hundred that's good. That's
like better than the Vando movie. Like let me I'll
pull up the top ten of this year and see
what it's like.
Speaker 2: But what are you thinking, I'm gonna say over six,
I'm gonna I am. I'm thinking, I'm thinking pretty pretty
high here. I'm also pretty I don't know, just hype
for this. I just watched the first movie, so it's
like really fresh in my mind, and I feel like
this one like a lot of again, like another category
of individuals that maybe aren't going to see every movie
in theaters. I feel like Gladiator is one to really
get a degree back out in there.
Speaker 1: Could review Gladiator as well too, because it's like people
are saying it's good, where if I think if it
would have shit the bed, I feel like, oh this
is awful, you could see it. But like look at
this like inside Out to one point six, step w
Routine one point three, just pick on me for nine
hundred and sixty eight, Dune Part two, seven hundred and fourteen.
But then once you get to the top five, it's
all like God's Will Kong five seventy, Kung Fupanda five forty,
like Beal Juice Beatle just four fifty. It's like those
aren't crazy numbers like they wore a couple of years ago,
where like the top ten or nothing but billion dollar movies.
So like I could see Gladiator, like nothing's gonna be
I don't know now now looking at Beetlejuice, now that's
I'm yeah, I'm still I'll say it will do it,
but I'm gonna be like just over five hundred because
Beetlejuice people, really you just got the families and stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm thinking high for
for both these movies. Obviously set myself up for some
potential disappointment, but I hope the movie's great though. I
hope it definitely hits the same mark of what that
first movie did because yeah, minor spoiler for my retro ratings,
but I don't think that's a perfect movie by any means,
but it's uh, god damned as it hit on, just
like getting you hype for some like Revenge Tale, which
I'm such a sucker for. I love all these Batman movies,
Northman like that, that, like that, those type of movies
just give me so hyped John Wick. So yeah, I'm
getting pretty hype for this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Mike's letterbox reviews give me hup because I'm
not like I'm gonna go back and watch because I
will see them both. I don't know if i'll get
to see because I know they're like, you gotta see
Glad here too in the theaters. I don't think i'll
have that luxury this col around to see in the theaters,
but I.
Speaker 2: Have some longevity though. I feel like it's a big
movie that could be in the theaters for a while hopefully.
Speaker 1: But like I've said before, if I can sneak to
a movie in December, it's nos Fraw too. Like I
know it sounds weird because like that I always bag
on it, like why You're released in December, But like
that's what's got me jones. That's the really only movie
this year. Like I still want to see Glad at
the War for We're hear them all that stuff. Like
nos Roch is the one where it's like, oh, if
I can't see that for a couple weeks, that's gonna
be gnawing at me, just wondering what Bill Scarr's guard's
up to in that damn pier gimmick. But uh, yeah,
we'll see. But yeah, let's get into some actual trailers here. So, Kirk,
do you want to pull up the uh Captain America
Brave New World trailer? I will have the pub says
a question for this, and Clay has a question for this,
So we will go into that because I kind of
made it our topic of what are we more excited
for that our Thunderbolts. But yeah, we're gonna do Captain America,
Brave New World Thunderbolts. What off season three Mission Impossible
trailer and some uh Mission impossible eight trailer and some news.
So uh, let's see to share. Do you how would
you say that first name to Shay to Shay Shavers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shay Shavers. Uh.
Speaker 1: Someone in Brave New World knows Doom is coming because
Doom has been in the six one six from the beginning.
He's not from the F four universe like they got
you all thinking. I'm hoping you're wrong, Shavers, just because
I don't like the idea of if Doom is in
the six one six this whole time, why does he
look exactly like Robert Downey At least I still don't like.
As time has gone on, it's funny like I feel
like with each passing month, I like that less and
less the whole Downy is Doom. But at least if
you say, hey, this is a variant, this is a
guy from a different universe, you know. Okay, that's why
it looks like Downey to me. If they just say
this is Victor von Doom and he looks like Downey,
that for me is like even lazier, Like that will
take me out of it like that will I don't
say ruin it, but it will also take it down
a like that would hurt it literally and like review
scale points for me, if they just said, yeah, this
guy looks like Tony Stark and he just has to
be doctor Doom, it's like for me, I and I
just don't know if anyone would know about I don't
see Doom in this project from the trails what we've
seen kriking right now. Do you think we'll get anything
Doom related, because obviously he is on the way, so
they could certainly in those bread coumbs, but I don't
get that from this movie right now at least.
Speaker 2: No, It definitely didn't cross my mind until de Chay's
comment there. I mean like we are heading in that direction,
so I feel like I wouldn't be super surprised if
at least like an in credit or something like there's
some build up or set up to something coming and
then a little bit of doom nod there. But yeah,
just judging by what I got in this trailer, I'm
not really getting that vibe. But maybe I'm gonna be fooled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's pull it up. You can do a
little screen shore there and we'll watch it. Here. There's
mister Bradley not looking too good because obviously, as we've
see in this trailer here, well, they don't show it
in this trailer, they tried to assassinate the present, but
we know what Bradley's been doing. You know, the audience's happening. No,
I don't have audio.
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, do you want audio?
Speaker 1: I'm good either way or either way not. You know
you always put in a close caption too that it.
Speaker 2: Might help me, Yeah, captions for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's too many words. I can't focus what's going on.
But yeah, so we've seen this before the assassination attempt,
so see what happens there.
Speaker 2: I will say this is probably the most hype I've
been for this show, like this this movie now after seeing.
Speaker 1: After this trailer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the last trailer, but this one I
really like this. Like splitting too kind of get into
like almost like a comic book. Yeah, squares type setup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think this raised my excitement, but I
think it's the same as like it didn't go down.
Luckily it's the same as the first one, so we'll
see what's going on here. But uh, yeah, I think
I'm very curious with this one. I know they say
it's like when a soldier. I feel like there is
a lot potentially going on here, like the Leader and
Hulk and the new fucking Now can you go back
to hear so now I'm here, go back, go back
to any lance. Okay, sorry, So here's the thing. At
the end of the day, it's the MCU. It's a
comic book. Yeah, hit it with any lance. It's comic. Okay.
So first of all, people point out, man, his right
ankle is the helmet, but his right angle is fucking broken.
It's gone, Like yeah, yeah, it's it's gone. It's like
yeah when yeah, when you roll angling, like oh fuck, yeah,
the helmet. I know, I can't remember what they said
it's for. I hope it's not for what lots of
people theorize, because some places are worried that like in
some countries if they have like a black actors Captain America.
It's gonna be an issue, so it's gonna be help it.
So we'll wait and see. But like, we live in
a world where they like took fit off the Star
Wars posters, right, so they do that cowards, but you know,
that's what Disney do and they're trying to make as
much money as they can. But so this and the
post I'm not sure have you seen the poster that
have come out for this movie. So it's obviously there's
multiple but it's him holding the shield and then Red
Hulk is punching the shield and he's holding it back,
but he's like looking very like casual for it. And
I was with people where at the end of the day,
this is the MSU. This will not docking points. They'll go,
oh my god, it's not realistic. It's just a fun
thing to talk about. Where he's like, I'm like, how's
he holding this shield against Red Hulk? I understand the
shield And they might say, oh, it absorbs and everything,
but it's like, no, like he's just a regular dude.
And then people have theorized with this shot because when
you watch it, he lands at a very ferocious rate.
Speaker 2: The Sonic Boom follows him right like he's going that fast.
Speaker 1: So people, has he taken the serum? I'm gonna say,
buckle up, He's not taking the serum. You're just gonna
have to live with like he's gonna do some like
superhuman stuff well just being a dude. I do think
him versus Red Hulk is kind of funny, and I
do think they have to be clever because I do
think there is a chance that the audience could check
out and go, ah, this is unbelievable anymore, or they
might just be able to shut their brains off. This
is another movie where I don't know how it's gonna do.
I could see it doing very well. I could see
it being I won't say as bad as like The
Marbles and stuff like that, but I could see there
being a lot of people one whether just assholes or
two just like hey, I just like Steve's Cap America,
or they're just not invested in this portion of the
MC right now, Like it's gonna be very I'm very
curious this one for next year box if was just
to see, like how he leads a movie for the
audience if they want to go on this journey with them,
but says he'll have a vibranium admantium combo super soup.
Speaker 2: By the end of some um in there, he's gonna
have Yeah where.
Speaker 1: Man Tara just fucking like orgasm on screen. They're like,
what's this? Oh it's unattaining, Like, oh my god, the
Nave are coming. But what do you think do you
see that post or what do you think about him
maybe doing a bit more stuff. Do you think there's
a chance he's taking the serum or do you think
they're just they're just doing whatever with them.
Speaker 2: I think they're I would hope that they at least
explain like, no matter what, like how he's able to
be on par because it's kind of been like a
running joke throughout the whole MCU that like we have
all these supers and then there's someone like like Hawkeye,
you know, or like like let you know, or or
just these other like agents that are just there. They're
they're supportive, but like when it gets down to like
fighting Hulk, for example, those guys like Coulson's not going
up there to.
Speaker 1: It's like Infinity War. When Sanos comes to a condent,
black Liele pulls out a taser, and that's always the
meme right of what she gonna What was she gonna do?
Speaker 2: You know exactly? So I think that that is like
still in people's minds. But like looking at this character
right here, like I guess the only real difference is
that he is a shield versus like like I'm thinking
a Falcon versus like where Captain in America is now
he still got his wings, but like, what's the difference
is really just the shield. But and I feel is
very symbolic and everything, but it still just feels like
he's so much more souped up and jacked up than
he is is just like the Falcon. And I hope
that they there is some reason for it. I don't
think it'll just be like his suit or anything like that.
Maybe maybe the maybe it is to do with some
sort of super hero serum. We're we're kind of getting
into the realm now. The MCU that there is like
different versions of it, So maybe there's gonna be one
that's not like so much of a complete, you know,
like life altering thing, like like Steve Rodgers for example,
like when he did that procedure, although like the guy
on the inside is the same, like like he's drastically
changed for the rest of his life. I don't think
it's gonna be something to that extent, but yeah, I
think I am leaning more so in that direction, just
for it to be a little bit more believable, which
he's gonna get the serum, yeah, or like not like
the serum that like all of our characters have used
to a modded version of it. Okay, I I think so,
but I'm not super confident on that, Like, yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: Saw in the show, wasn't he Like I don't want
to take that ship, you know, because of having to
John Walker. But it's like now it looks like John
Walker is gonna be okay, so yeah, well yeah, So
the only thing I was gonna say is you point
out that I know it's in the comics and everything,
but I'm just not a fan of him having a
sidekick that's also named Falcon and he's like like they
both have wings.
Speaker 2: I don't like that you should have a different name
or just.
Speaker 1: Like just not being the Like I'm not trying to
say Sam shouldn't be cap that's fine, but to me,
it's like that's fun because Sam's something different and that's
the spin on cap like, and I'm sure this guy
will be different. We saw him in the show, but
just like to have like I'm Captain America wings and
now you are also Falcon with wings. It's just it's
I don't know, I don't like it with you. It's
a nitpick, I'll say for me.
Speaker 2: Is it just because he just becomes Falcon in the comics?
He doesn't never yes name of course, Yeah, yeah, there
you go. But you don't think he's gonna get the
serum because of the show, Like you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, you know, Like I just I
it would be weird. I guess I'd have to see
what storyline they do in the movie to get us
to the point of why does he what's changed other
than I can't fight the Hulk by my like, I
can't fight the Hulk as a super or like a
normal person, right, But it's like, well, I feel like
when Steve gave you that shield, you kind of wouldn't
known like by the time he got by time he
in falgimare Soldier when he says no, I don't want it,
at that point, he's had enough experience to know you're
gonna at some point go up against a super human
type of borg. So like, shit ter, get off the pot,
you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, h You're making me remember the show more, and
I feel like that changes my opinion on it Now.
I feel like I'm actually more on the side of
him not getting the super hero serum because it's supposed
to be like it isn't just the serum, you know
that like makes him capable of doing this. I feel
like it might bring down some of those moments from
the from Falcon in the Winter Soldiers show if he
does just like go through all that ends up just
taking the seerum and he is just the regular Captain America.
So yeah, yeah, he kind of Okay, I'm teetered back
on the other direction. Now there we go.
Speaker 1: Let's see what's going on here.
Speaker 2: I don't like the helmet too.
Speaker 1: No, and he's got the classic nano tech helmet too
that everyone loves, So there you go.
Speaker 2: Some of these shots got really gonna be really hyped
just for like the scale of it made me think
of like some top gun Maverick aerial shots.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, who do you think go back? Who
do he thinks in that the funeral? There it's gotta
be Isaiah, right, that's my prediction. It's Bradley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to see if there's like a photo.
Speaker 1: It's Falcon on his first mission, the New Falcon. They
didn't teach him how to use the wings.
Speaker 2: I can't really zoom in and depixelate. No, it's like
there's something on the tombstone or I guess that would
be an older tombstone.
Speaker 1: Never mind.
Speaker 2: Replacing this guy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, go back a couple of weeks ago, and
we talked about that situation of replacing Graves and everything,
and like even that shot when he's like sitting in
the chair alone, you know, like no one's like he.
I feel like they're trying to reset Ross, reset America.
All right, there you go.
Speaker 2: It's very like Zodiac like batteries all hooked up. Little Riddler.
Speaker 1: Then, yeah, they're copying the Batman MC. Do you think
we're gonna Do you think they're gonna we're gonna see
the Leader before the movie? You think we're gonna just
do more shots like this route. I don't think we're
seeing them.
Speaker 2: And John Carlo isn't the Leader, right.
Speaker 1: He's no, he's sidewinder.
Speaker 2: Remember, sidewinder. I don't remember that, but yes.
Speaker 1: Here's a meme for us when we found out his name.
That's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very optimist prime type villain. Yeah, absolutely,
no Mega tr im. Sorry, I'll Transformer fans out there, but.
Speaker 1: All green big head.
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, and I'm worried. How Like, I
hope he's I hope the role is the least similar
to Baron z Emo and Civil War like that. I'll
be happy with that where he's the puppet master and
he's around, but maybe you don't seem all the time
like if it's that, I'm happy with it. But if
it's less than that, I'm just I'm just getting worried.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, that's fair. I tend to agree with
you there.
Speaker 1: Yeah we got this is a cool shot where he
throws a shield his missiles. That's that's some cool stuff
right there, looking very excited. Anthony Mackie just big letters
there taking a shield away. He keeps losing that shield. Man,
I know the show and whatnot, So I am semi hype,
not him, sem I'll just admit I'm just hyped to
have Ford in this role. I think it's gonna be
fun to him there, and like, luckily, like from all
the trailers I've seen, it doesn't look like, oh yeah,
he's just getting a check. Like he looks like he's
he's there to play, you know.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that. I'm surprised by like the amount
of him being in maybe like different costumes and like
doing different things. Like I would have just assumed he's
like in the President war Room, like wearing to suit
the whole movie, you know, and then there's a cgi
version of him at some point. But yeah, I don't know.
I just feel like I put him in that like
phone in type category and like he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Though, right, Yeah, he's like like you you didn't see
the News Blade Runner, Right, No, I haven't. But he
doesn't there, he didn't in the sequel series, he didn't
in the New Indiana Jones.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's just because his persona in real life
puts because he's always like, oh fuck, I don't. He
hates doing everything. I think we just think like, oh, yeah,
he's that type of actor, but he's really not. Like
everything we've talked about that he's done in our podcast
decade he's always he always brings it. But like even then,
it's like seeing him like acting out the whole, like
turning the halk. I'm like, this is so fucking weird.
Like I would have thought if you would have pitched
up to four, been like, what do you want to
shut the fuck?
Speaker 2: That would have been him that.
Speaker 1: Scared me. That was so when I was next when
I'm not expected, but exactly like I would have thought,
like I'm not doing the Hulk stuff, but na, I
can't wait, like the fact that he could maybe be
in our best villain list, even though I do we'll
get to it, but I don't think we're gonna get
lots of Red Hulk in this movie. I think it's
gonna be like no a scene or two to be honest.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like I initially I thought it was weird
for them to like show them show him so much,
like initially in the promo, because I agree with you,
I think it's going to be a pretty minor thing.
But it's still like a big marketing piece, right, like
it looks rusty, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: They even make the stupid joke in the trailer like
they come in Red now where they fucking sing, oh, God,
of course here we go.
Speaker 2: So I left so hard at the scene when I
first saw. I don't know why. The lady's like stop
what you're doing. He just like swings the door, just
start shooting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the president's in there too, you would think, right,
So I just.
Speaker 2: Oh, that was I didn't even know what is that
at first. That's the fucking eternals thing.
Speaker 1: Isn't it. Yeah, it's finally coming into play because they're
skip twenty seconds if you don't want to hear it.
The rumor is that like this is gonna be how
they get Adamantium, like adam Antkin's coming off this thing
or something like that. So the the worlds are fighting
over this statue. But uh yeah, says that he likes it, that
there's gonna be a big scene, and yeah, I think
that was one of the highlights too, is some action
that they had falcon in the air and that's one
of the cool things you can do with him, right,
but like this s uff Yeah, when he's like when
he's turned, I would not think that, but like I
will say, I thought it. Yeah, go back, what was
that line again? There? Fuck?
Speaker 2: What was green? Or yes? Since when are they read.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, oh fuck, here we go. But
I will say that I always thought it was gonna
look really goofy seeing Harrison Ford is like the Red
Hawk version. But I think they did a great job
of there's enough ford ISM's but it doesn't look goofy.
And I actually think it looks he looks really good,
like people's done cyber sides, Like he has these veins
that are like popping out, even more so than Hulk.
So I was I'm pretty happy with what they've done
here so far.
Speaker 2: So like this looks so badass man, Like if you
would have showed me, especially like back in the day,
thinking about like Harrison and like Indie and like Star
Wars and just like that Pee Harrison, if you would
have showed me this image back then, it's like, are
you gonna give me a day?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But no, I plealy agree with you. I I when
we first were covering this like on news, I'm like,
that doesn't make any sense to me, Like it seems
so strange. And then for where we are now and
seeing the trailer, I'm really looking forward to seeing Harrison
in this role. And yeah, I think the Red Hulk
looks fantastic too. They did such a great job with
just a detailing on everything around him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I agree, Dalton's skin texture looks awesome. Where
I because I feel like Hulk has been back and
forth with some CGI right so Sidewinder side wonder Man.
But yeah, because they always just keep showing him in
this scene halk. So my theory is what's gonna happen
is I think Leader is going to make because I
think what happened was they say, like look at that
right there, go back to those like look at his
traps right there, see those veins popping out. That's like
triple H two peak when we were at the Charity
stream when I was showing you, like, look that's triple
h O two right there. But like he looks fucking scary,
and I think it's great because I feel like Hulk lately,
especially in She Hulk, like both of them had some
iffy moments. Let's say, what the quality of CGI. This
looks great? But I think this is either the final
Boss or like the pre final Bass. I think they've
said like, oh he got some sort of surgery. I
think Leader is gonna like make it pop, But I
don't think from what we've seen, I don't think Harrison
Ford's like I'm gonna be the Red Hulk. It looks
like it's almost like against his will. So I feel
like the leader is going to cause us to happen
and that causes a fight. And then, because this is Clay,
one of Clay's questions here, he says, do you think
Harrison Ford is one and done for the MCU this
movie or a Red hul come back? Does or does
Harrison Ford even know he is Red Hulk? Maybe he doesn't,
Maybe he doesn't, I think because I don't know if
I know, they've shown he might be in the mocap suit.
I think that Red Hulk could come back, but there
could be a situation where Harrison just does the voice
from now on, like they just have his look and
then he's just red hawked out all the time or
something like that. I just I feel like they show
the scene Hulk is going to be, they're making him
look like the final Boss. Like in Civil War, the
final Boss was the team, but it really was the
what was it? The Tony Cap Bucky fight, like the
airport was kind of a syke out. I think this
is a pyke out where when we're going into it,
the GA will think, oh, the Red Hulk's the bad guy,
but really will be something with the leader. So I
don't think he's one and done. I think he will
be around, but it will Harrison Ford be around that much,
I think in a more limited role.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, I don't think Harrison's going to
be back after after this movie. Really, how does how
does like licensing work for if they have like a
CGI version of your face? Like can they just use
that forever in the MCU.
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the contract, but it might
just be the same way as like obviously it's not
the exact same, but think about like anytime Bradley Cooper
comes a voice like Rocket obviously gets paid each time
that's a bigger performance, but it might be something like that, like, hey,
anytime we use Red Hulk like well, because I still
feel like like Harrison like would come in the booth
to do some voices like that's a pretty easy day
for Harrison, like yeah, come and get paid one hundred
g's and then like your Red Hulk thanks. You know.
So I think that they probably worked it out beforehand,
unless Red howlk just fucking gets decapitated in this movie,
and by Sam the Human. He's like, yeah, I'm fucking cat.
He goes like John Walker on, I'm just in front
of everybody, just murders the President.
Speaker 2: I think there's a big place for like the Red
Hulk in the MCU, especially now that we don't have
our classic angry Yes, but I don't know. I don't
know too much more about other hooks, but I feel
like there is gonna be. We still got Scar, We
have other Hulk like creatures out there, but a.
Speaker 1: Fuck up Scar so bad man. Fuck. I want Red
Hull versus Scar immediately, and it'd be like a squash
match where he destroys him in thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, I'm more thinking that Red Hulk could
be seen in the future more so than just Harrison Ford.
Speaker 1: Just yeah.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't imagine him signing like a multi project deal.
Like initially it'd be like, Okay, I'll do that role
for X y Z reasons, but.
Speaker 1: Unless it's like for another like you have like a
scene or two in another like an Avengers movie, right,
like something like that where he comes in for a day,
shoots some stuff and be done. But I agree. I
don't think it's like he'll be a reoccurring character. I
would know I'd find that odd, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. And then does he think he's the
Red Hulk? Probably the name. I don't think he really
knows what that means. I yeah, has he been on
like the comic on panel and everything, and like.
Speaker 1: He has a little bit. Even when he was asked
it's a Red Hulk, he did say like like what's
the Red Hulk? I'll try, I'll try, and yeah, they're
coming red now. And then there's some good questions too,
like someone asked him about like what is the multiverse
saga me or something like that, and he had just
he just like what am I in now? Like he
just had some good stuff. So yeah, so oh let's see.
I want to see. Oh, here we go, this, here
we go. I got one. Here we go. Give me
everyone pause with me here. Oh wait, I'll wait till
the street. Yeah, the cool shot there too at the
end when he does like the cut and everything like that.
So here we go. I'll share mine now, I got
too many tabs open. Here you go.
Speaker 2: So I think I would do you hear that? Yep?
Speaker 1: Get straight up fired if I did not ask you
about the recent photo from the Captain America set of you,
the eagle eyed viewers noticed you wearing ripped pants. Might
we be seeing a mister Ford as the Red Hulk?
Speaker 2: What is the Red Hulk? It is Daddius Ross's alter ego.
He's gonna hawk out? Really, you knew?
Speaker 1: I know nothing? Well, I well something.
Speaker 2: And I hope it happens. Like it's like he's not
supposed to say anything, but it's just like you can
still believe that he actually has no idea what the
fuck she's saying.
Speaker 1: You know he is miche percent is because like I
think this is why we think he's pulling in. I
think he's just a great actor all the time because
I remember it's not a big thing. But I remember
when I was a kid, I just watched Coen O'Brian.
Every time he would come on coenan brian, he would
never give like a regular interview. It was always like
this type of stuff. And I think he just likes
being like that. And I'll see if this is I
feel like it's only fifty three seconds. If this sucks,
let me know. But like I feel like he it's
one of the Oh, here we go, maybe it's this
some of these these questions stop it. Oh it's Dave's channel,
Stave Channey. Maybe they've might have done the work for us.
So here, here we go? Who first squeak anxiety? Here? So,
of course is you know the antagonist here is King
of the Serpent Society?
Speaker 2: Who deals better with snakes?
Speaker 1: Indie? Or Thaddeus Ross who shot first squeed?
Speaker 4: So you know, I've always treated these questions with the
utmost respect and somehow at the same time complete disdain.
Speaker 2: I will not answer that stupid question.
Speaker 4: But thank you, Yeah, I mean delighted to have the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Harrison. Kevin Figy has said, it's been a dream to
get you to join the MCU. How did he finally
win you over?
Speaker 4: He dreams a lot, and he usually gets what he
dreams about. And I just kept seeing these really terrific
actors have a good time, and I suddenly I'd like
me some of that. And then this part came along,
and I was delighted to play it, delighted to work
with mister Mackie, who was a presence to be reckoned voice,
and I really had a good time.
Speaker 1: Fans got to see you as the Red Hulk today
up on that screen in hall Ah.
Speaker 2: Did you do motion capture?
Speaker 1: Or how did you bring the Red Hulk to life?
Don't get me started. But there was another one too.
I can't find it now, but they asked him about
like which saw that he's in or something like that,
and he just like he gets these answers he gives.
Speaker 2: So you gotta exagine too, like a guy like that
that's been in the industry that long, like the amount
of fucking questions he's had, Like it would make sense
why he's like making a game out of some of
these interviews now to just make it entertaining for himself.
But that's funny. I'm glad you shared that I hadn't
seen those before.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that too before thinking for dropping that in
the channel and he does, yeah comic con, So yeah,
that's that's a good time. So all right, let's take
an ad break, Kerkly, I'll pull up the Thunderbolts and
then we'll be right back. And we are back. So, yes,
we got a Thunderbolts. They said special. Look, it's this
weird thing where it's like it starts off like a
teaser and then there's this, and then it's like it
goes into a full trailer. I don't know why they
call this special. Look, it's just another pretty much trailer.
But uh yeah, let's pull us up here and watch this.
This is Thunderbolts. This is the opposite where unlike that
movie where they're showing a little bit of Leader sidewind
Er Hulk. Also, you know, Century might be in this,
but they are not really showing the villain, which I'm
very curious about, you know, q Barbosa. But I just
feel like I wonder how the GA is gonna take
this one. But yeah, I still liked the so each
trailer I've liked of the Thunderbolts. I'm excited for it.
I've been excited for day one since they gave us
the roster because I think, like we've said, I'm a
times at geek first, we kind of like more of
these characters where maybe some other people don't. But yeah,
I liked this trailer. Where were you on this before
we watch it?
Speaker 2: I really really like this trailer. Actually, I liked it
a lot of This is definitely my favorite one so far.
I just I'm getting really hype for just seeing these
these individuals interact with each other like. I think they're
showing off some great on screen chemistry throughout these trailers,
and I think, if that movie is like pretty just
generic plot, but we just get a lot of like
like them interact with me together together, I think it's
gonna be a fun time and pretty much you know, yeah, yeah, exactly.
It doesn't. It doesn't seem like one that like can
go wrong in many ways, so maybe maybe I'm expecting
too much, but no, I think it looks really good.
I was laughing at various points in this trailer. I
think there's some good one liners Red Guardian. I think
it's gonna be really fun just basting off all these characters,
and Yeoline is fantastic. I can't wait to see just
more John Walkerman, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: His interaction we get to the trailer with you later here,
I'm like, oh, I I can't fucking wait to see
what our favorite mid life cracis. Guys too, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm hoping to maybe get some more love for
the characters like Ghost and task Master, because I really
didn't care for those characters the first time around. I
think tast Master is gonna die in this show.
Speaker 1: We've gone two trailers now task Masters barely and these,
so I think task Masters by it. I'm completely fine
at that because they fucked up that character in my opinion.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, no, it's looking good. Jump in Escape.
Speaker 1: I got some of this convoy approach. I guess this
is maybe why they did this special look thing because
it's like a full kind of almost scene or clip
first beforehand.
Speaker 2: So okay, which I like to showed Red guarding the mister.
That shows like kind of black big.
Speaker 1: They saw Logan like, oh he was a capt he
was a little driver in that movie, so.
Speaker 2: Oh my god boy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, where's uh, where's the Taskmaster here? It looks
like she didn't make it out of a first mission there.
Speaker 2: This is uh yeah, after she died.
Speaker 1: This is definitely after she died. And you know, I
do actually like his obviously he was never like an
Avenger Adventure. But I do like them putting Bucky on
like the higher tear almost than these because these guys
are more like the B level characters, right, so he
should be like hot ship so especially.
Speaker 2: That like you know, like Red Guardian and like he's
probably dabbled in some semi criminal areas like it would
have known about the Winter Soldiers. Such a mystery and
showing up right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and remember in Black Widow he said that
he knew Seve Rogers, so I bet he's gonna lie
and see a red Bucky as well too.
Speaker 2: So that's about show there. But I just love when
John Bucker's he's as like the monumental fights that happened.
Speaker 1: Now you can pause here now after so many years, Kirkham,
could you believe it? Twenty seventeen someone bought Avengers Tower
and they never told us who it was? And here
we are, God, what is that? Seven years later? Right?
Speaker 2: That's right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven years later and Val is the one that
bought the tower. How do you feel about that? Because
obviously there was a lots of years to talk about
was it a storm? And Norman? Was it at four?
I think there's lots of times like in just content
with maybe is it Fisk? That was always a popular
one with Kingpin coming in. But it looks it not
looks like it's cold, firm of some stuff's changed. But
how do you feel about Val and maybe some maybe
shadier people owning Avengers Tower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely underwhelming, I would say, to say the least.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's just because I don't really
know anything about this character yet, like it doesn't have
a lot of weight to it. But yeah, like yeah,
the names like Victor von Doom or like you know,
like Storming, like these ones have a lot more value
and stock in my mind. So I'm hoping that out
of this movie, I just see Val in a lot
of a higher tier, especially just kind of with what
she represents and what her organization kind of is. I'm
assuming we'll find out a lot more from this, And yeah,
I'm curious also just like after this movie, like how
much of an impact VAL's gonna have like going forward,
because like we've had a lot of setup with this character,
Like she's showed up in a lot of end credits
throughout the years, and uh, I'm like, is she our
character's just gonna deal with her in this or is
she gonna be like a new like a new Nick
Fury going forward that she's just a joy project? Like
what's gonna happen going forward? I really don't even know.
Like all I know is that she's been assembling this
crew and it seems like numerous points in this trailer,
maybe they aren't in love with everything that she's kind
of been doing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you. Underwhelming, I
would love like, I can't tell you this for sure,
but I guarantee you if you were asked them in
twenty seventeen, who bought AVENGERWS Tower, I doubt they had
it as this character. I think they did it and
they're like, oh, we're gonna figure out downline. Yeah, there's
just no way in a straight face, I would believe
them that they say, oh, I have val this character
we're bringing in. You know, No, I don't think so here,
but yeah, I think she'll obviously survive this, and I
think probably they'll be like maybe some people that will
be for her and some will be again, So I
just don't know. Also, we have that whole Asterix thing.
I think the I think the working theory is is
and I don't know if they'll retitle or whatnot. But
if she bought Avengers Tower, she's assembling a team. And
you got also Rass in another movie being like, oh
I want to put the Avengers together. I think she's
trying to put a Avengers together, right, But it's not
gonna work out because this isn't the Avengers. You can't
have this, this is not your lineup it so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Where you're standing. I mean the place wasn't cheap, but
it's got good optics all ye, so adorable, it's ship felling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's task Master back there.
Speaker 2: So in this a little moment you like showing this character.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's got the Durabils, Peel point out that she
has a bunch of Gerbils in her hoodie as well too.
So yeah, and again this kind of on her cell
because I feel like we talked about Florence Pugh like
once a month this podcast. But always great to have
Florence Peugh. You know she's gonna kill like you know,
I still think she's Yeah, I think I still right now,
I got Ama Stone as a queen, who is the
best actor in the world right now. But Florence Peugh,
I got a comfortable number two slot.
Speaker 2: So did you see the Her Injury movie yet?
Speaker 1: No? I want to. It's gonna be a vod at
the end of this month.
Speaker 2: So saw it. She said it was really good, which
is like I expect it to be. Yeah, you got
those two it's gonna be emotional movie. I'm sure it's
gonna be.
Speaker 1: It'd be harder to fund it up and get it good,
you know.
Speaker 2: Exactly you do with no script, and yeah, just be good,
just go for it. This scene is what made me
laugh out loud. I was just he's like kind of
super siar. Did you get hydra? He's like, well of
fancy stuff. I don't regular.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be great as usual.
Speaker 2: What everyone walker Shadow of.
Speaker 3: Contract kills like starts with Elena jumping off a building
and like looking back, having an explosion, carrying serbs, Red Guardian,
like having all these moments and then just task Master.
Speaker 2: Pretty ludicrous coming from the dime store. Captain America.
Speaker 1: You know it was actually the official Captain America.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for like two seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Very excited to get more of. Yeah, like if the
whole movie is just like them interacting with each other, like,
I think it's gonna be just a good time because
I'm liking what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: So do you think it's honestly Bob? That should be
century Like I feel like they got to reveal what
he is before.
Speaker 2: The movie, right, Yeah, I thought it was gonna be
in the scene right too, because when he popped up again,
I'm like, this is an hydro bob. I can't remember
who this guy is again, but yeah, yeah, Central this
was supposed to be Stephen Hughes' character.
Speaker 1: Sans yeah, and then it's like this is like Marvel's Superman, right,
So I feel like that's like can get not everybody,
but least that's an interesting thing. I just feel like
it this needs a little more like not for me,
but maybe for people to get because this is another
movie too, both this and CAP. I could see this
not doing well because like people might be like I
don't care about Sean Walker or I don't care about
like they say these names, but it's like to me,
really you only have like ELAINEA because it's Pew and
Bucky like even Ray Guardian. I know it was in
Black Widdow, but still it's like, I don't know if
those other ones are like pulling people in in my opinion,
you know.
Speaker 2: So I could definitely, I don't know. I can see
it go to one of two A's like they don't
show him at all in the marketing material and then
in the movie's like very minor and then at the
end he has like a pop off moment and then
you see like what the potential of the character is,
and then they can use that going forward. In the
MCU or they do show off what he is and
he's a big part, but like he's nowhere near like
going forward, especially if this doesn't do too well, they
want to, I don't know, maybe make more room for
new for characters that are new and exciting. But I
feel like Centuries does have that potential.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but plus I feel like he's used to
feel like he's gonna be like he'll turn the sentry
and be like out of control. I feel like he's
gonna be the the I don't know, vow will probably
be the villain, but he'll be the villain. So I
feel like, I don't know, maybe they're trying to go
for that two with stuff. Oh people don't know he's
a superhuman and it blows up and he's the villain.
But I don't know. I think there's some risks there,
but we'll see.
Speaker 2: Only all I know about Century is from Marvel Snap,
and he has like this thing called the void that
comes out of him. So I'm I'm intrigued that will happen.
As to what's gonna happen with that? Yeah, yes, just
thristing and we don't have.
Speaker 1: Purpose classic suicide squad or a bunch of losers. You know,
you can come together so you can do something. It's
like the coolest thing Bucky's done, and like, you know,
five years.
Speaker 2: It's funny because like that scene earlier when he's coming
on the highway, it's like, oh, yeah, Bucky is a badass.
I forgot It's it's been a while because the.
Speaker 1: Couldn't find a way to make him Winter Soldier in
a badass at the same time, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, so what we all just punch and shoot.
Speaker 1: It's like he can only be badass when he's a
bad guy. But it's yeah, you can't call ourselves there.
Thank god, Dunderbolts. It's a cool man Thunderbolts that's got
that Avengers slot. So we'll see, we'll see how it does.
But that's where our final question here of the night,
Let's see s Pup says, which of the Thunderbolts in
Captain America are you most excited for? And which do
you think will do the best at the box office.
So I'm gonna give it to you this way well
before there's a couple of other questions will answer those two.
But so let's say you only get to see one
next year, kirkle on which one you see in.
Speaker 2: That's tricky because I feel like Thunderbolts will have less
impact on like the story of like Avengers and stuff
going forward. But I'm really excited to see like these
dynamics and the on screen chemistry. Oh man, that's really
tough because like we got Lena in here, we don't
have Yulena and captin America. I think, yeah, I think
I'm gonna say cap to America just because I think
this movie, although it's more relevant than where like let
me use Blackadow for example, where Black Widow came out
a little too late. It was a great movie in
my opinion for maybe that era. Great movie that like
just thinking back to that time era where it should
have been placed, like I think it fits there, but
it just came too late and it didn't have like
impact on the MCU on where we were, And I
think Thunderbolts will have something very similar where it'll be
a fun time, but like it won't really feel like
this is a must watch going forward them, like these
characters might pop up going forward, but it's it's not
as big as like the events that could come from
Captain America. So I think I'm gonna have to go
in that direction, but very slightly. It's like a fifty
one forty nine split. Like I do really like both
these trailers, and I am looking forward to both these projects.
But that's where I thick.
Speaker 1: Super Bad Mike speaks with mine for Pew alone, Thunderbolts
beats Cat four for me, Yeah, Pew Boys for life. Yeah,
I think that's it. If Pew wasn't in there, I
think it's just because there's the other characters I'm more
curious to see now, I was that's why you choose
that one. Yeah, of course a lot. I can't went
for the Red damption and she becomes the biggest character
of the MCU. But like there's some stuff like Florida's
halk I'm like, oh that that'd be a bummer to miss.
And I agree with you where that's my That's where
I parsed them where I think Thunderbolts is gonna be
the better movie, But I think Captain America will have
more ramifications on the MCU. But that's where I would
just hope that, Okay, well if I got to pick one,
because I do think there's a chance Cap could be
really messy. And remember this is the movie that's been
like reshot a bunch like three times, like more than
so it could just be like they tried their best,
they did what they could, but they're just like, I'm
just not as invested as other characters in that movie.
Sam I am, But Sam I am, but the whole
Captain America I am, But not as much as Pew
where I don't think I put her my top ten
for characters when we did our last phase rankings, but
I think I said, like, she's very close to it
and that has a lot to do a Pew. But
I think they did a great job with Lana. So yeah,
that's why for me, Dulton sin is who's worst character?
Ghost or task Master. I've been on Dylan's bandwagon, you know,
we've been on that bandwagon together that I really liked
what they did with Ghost and ant Man two. At
least in ant Man two, they give her a story
and a tragic backstory and something that she's has a
purpose of. She is a villain but she's just trying
to do to fix herself before a body evaporates. Task
Masters just a fucking like control dummy. So that's why
he's just like for me, like Ghost to me is
like an Academy awar written script character versus what task
Master is.
Speaker 2: So I would like, I didn't hear the first part,
so I was worried about what you're saying, And like,
you really think Ghosts is that level of Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're to ask me, it's like that's fucking Jack
Torrens from the show that's like tired during from Fight
Club Ghosts, Like that's how good Ghost is compared to
task Masters.
Speaker 2: But uh no, I'm saying with you, Yeah, I didn't
like Ghost in that movie, but in comparison, yes, so
I did Ghosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I suppose I agree. He says he likes
that they all know so they're just punching shoot characters,
which I think is a good one. And then finally,
what do you think is gonna do better box office wise?
Don't got to give a number right now too, what
do you think is gonna come up on top?
Speaker 2: There's another one that's super unclear to me because I
like when I was watching both these trailers with Shay.
She she gave the approval of Thunderbolts. She thought it
looked really fun, she thought it was a good time.
Captain America, she's like, that's so stupid, Like that's not
Steve Rogers, Like that's the whole point, that's the whole point.
What are you talk about? And then but yeah, she's
not interested in Captain America at all. And so I
feel like my explanation on why I chose Captain America
is people's like incentive to go see this movie in
a certain way. I'm not gonna speak for everyone, but
there's definitely gonna be a category of people that will
feel like that's a more important movie to see, pretty
much just for the name, like the fact that there's
another Captain of America movie and this one feels like
more of a suicide squad just kind of on like
its own adventure. But like, like that's not everyone that
sees this movies. Like I just gave the example of Shaye,
like she she doesn't want to see Captain like she's
seen all these MCU movies, but she she's no interest
in this next Captain America movie. So it's tough to say,
because I like, I think Thunderbolts is gonna be a
more fun movie for like just all general audience members
and stuff like that to see. I'm still gonna say
Captain America though, just just just for the big name
and in fact, you got Harrison and the Hulk in there.
They come in red. Now, like that's a big selling
point for for moviegoers. I think maybe I'm gonna be wrong, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this one's really tough for me because it's
one in a really show. Like I know some might
go like, oh, we live in a time like it
probably wouldn't. It's not that big of a box office,
but it's different when you got like like a whackt
with an IP And I do think there's some things
working onst that, Like I think there's that where there
is people that not even if it's just not Steve Rogers,
it's just that some people don't like it's like a
replacement character, right, It's like, oh, it's the the lesser
than Captain America. And then obviously you got like a
bunch of idiots like, oh, well, you know, my Captain
America is white and he's always gonna be white. Why
my character that you know that was Shay that well,
you gotta tell Kirklea, you can't say that always white
Captain America for me. But no, it's just like, I
don't know these fictional character con down. But you have
that group of people I do think to get like
a little more spicy here. I do wonder with them
preeving as a political thriller and assassination of the president.
I'm not out of people saying watch this, but I
can't see this because our president was almostsassinated. I wonder
if there's just a group of people that will be
similar to me that anytime after COVID a COVID movie
came out, I was like, I will not watch this
because I have no interest in this. I wonder, especially
at that point, once they'll have that new president for
a month and a half, if anything political will make
people not want to go watch it just for the
fact that they'll be inundated with this cabinet member does this,
and this does this, And I just wonder if there
will be a fatigue of I don't really want anything political.
And that's where Thunderbolt's like, it's gonna just be more fun.
I agree, with you. I'm gonna pick Cap because of
Captain American name and Red Hulk, but I wouldn't be
surprised if like a bunch of stuff happens where people
just go, oh, yeah, I don't need to see this
Captain America, which would suck because then if it does,
does happen that because I like what they've done with Anthony,
like Sam Wilson, I love the you know, have the
build up in the show. But if it does do
lesser than like a big lesser, then it's gonna teach
them like, well, we'll never do that again. They'll they
won't kill off Falcon, but like are Captain America, but
like you'll get see Rogers back very quickly. I think
they will do Secret Wars. You'll do a reboot and
you'll get a recast the Captain America or they'll bench
that character for a bit and he'll be like, uh,
you'll see Cap around, but he won't be leading a
new trilogy at all. Right, So and even then the
same thing. And I'm on record saying I can see
both these movies disappointing. I can see people saying that
that's not Captain America. And I can see people being like, eh,
it looks like Suicaid Squad, and you know what, I'm
not really a fan of those movies, so like I
don't need to see that again. And same thing, I
would suit whatever you want to say about Suicide Squad
that had the joker character, you had Batman in the previews,
and you had Will Smith. That is no fucking comparison
to what they got in Thunderbolts, you know like that,
and that's you know, who knows how the second one
of Squad would have done in non COVID, but still
that same thing was nowhere near. You had all see
Margot as Harley Quinn, but like John Cen eyed herself
with like those aren't will Smith. So that's the thing
where like no one's Pew's you know, great, but she's not.
She's never been will Smith level, right, So that's the thing.
So I can see them both kind of eating durt
and we'll see. But yeah, i'll give it. I'll give
it to cap but you never know, Thunderbolts could pull
them up.
Speaker 2: Set there, so yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Let's see, can you pull up that what if trailer?
This is our last trailer reaction and then we'll just
talk about the news and we'll be done here. But yeah,
what if season three they announced also we talked about
this a while backgo that this is going to be
in the final season. Bat Brad Winderbaum that does the
TV side set, it's kind of like the final season
for now. He did an interview today where there's other
circumstances that are making them want to stop this, but
they're not saying it's goodbye forever, which I do like
because I feel like, what if it's something where it's
like you just keep going forever. So I am kind
of bummed in that sense, And I also feel like
the show's not met its full potential. I think it's
at times got close to it. I think I'll always
be mad that they did the whole in both seasons,
that they're just all connected and they gotta have like
a through line, and it's like, I still just wish
they were an anthology show and that's all we did.
But yeah, it's gonna premiere December twenty second. It's gonna
be eight episodes. They're gonna come out every day like
they did last season, and yeah, there's lots of big
characters coming back. So I like this trailer, but for me,
it's like, what if can always have a good trailer
because they're showing lots of cool stuff. I know, what
if will probably be like the other seasons where you'll
get some episodes, you'll get some blah episodes, you'll get
some oh this was good, and then you'll probably get
a couple of bangers and then we're like, oh, yeah,
this is this is a good one. So thoughts on
the t before you pull it up here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty similar with you. I'm looking forward to
the next season. I've liked all the seasons so far
that we've gotten, and uh, it's tough to judge just
the trailer because I don't know. I feel like throughout
every season there's episodes I really love and some episodes
I like a little bit less, and it's kind of
tough to pick out which ones. I don't know like
which episodes are having which characters in them, because they
just kind of throw it all at you. So I
would say though, like, yeah, Dalton's comments storm Storm with
the mule near at the end, that was like get
the rock Chills video ready, Like I am just so
excited right now. That that one got me really really excited.
And yeah, no, I just as.
Speaker 1: Sure as a rock is covered in chills already.
Speaker 2: That was me, yes, but yeah, looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people were like this, which I'll get to
in a second, really Storm thing. Yeah, I'll get to.
And that's bringing up here. So we got white vision,
which pause right there, you can go back. You missed
the pause, that's okay. I was slow on them. I
was slow on the what I'm gonna say, I'm just
gonna say it now. I saw so many people be like, man,
how dare you your debut? Storm's MSU debut is in
what If? How dare you? Who fucking cares? It is
like there's nobody that is going to Technically they're all connected, right,
So Toad, Maguire, Spider Man, and X Men two thousand,
they're all on the MSU. But nobody that's gonna go
see the MSU X Men in twenty twenty seven is
gonna be like, yeah, Storm's in this, but they brought
in this one half episode. I just don't get why anybody. Maybe,
and I get it. Some people are like, well, it's
such an important character, she's a bigger platform if anything.
To me, it's like, oh, well, the one X men
they're using in this is Storm. Like, it's not they're
God using anybody, They're using Storm. So that to me
is a reverse where I feel like, oh, Marvel knows
this is a great character and people like here, let's
lose like, let's use her. For me, I did not
understand anybody getting mad about this. If anybody was mad
about this, you need to check your like I don't know,
just regular lifecard of the door and fucking walk outside
and do the classic touch some grass. Like this show
is a multi I would understand if it was let's
say what we got coming out next, Ironheart, Right, let's
say that ended up in the Storm of Like, yeah,
that's a little odd. Like to me, yes, a character
like Storm that should get the cinematic big debut, not
just some random you know scene, But this is what if?
It's all to me like episodes just like have some
fun and muck around for a bit. It's the same
actress that does the voice in the animated series like
ninety seven, So to me, it's like they might do that.
Like for me, it's like, I don't understand what anybody
would be mad about. Well, the first time we see
an X men MCU, you know, Storm and the MSU,
it's in What If, and people feel like it's like
a you know, she's downgrade. But to me, it's just
it's just a good time show and this is not
gonna impact anything going forward for people of anything. I'm
just hight to like, man, that's gonna be my most
anticipated episode now. So I don't know, And that's what
I'm saying before you go. For me, seeing white Vision
bugs me more than seeing Storm, because to me, we
should be seeing white Vision in the MCU right now,
because like they're like, what what if is there to
do with white Vision? We haven't even got the what
happened with him yet? Yeah, there's usually what if it
is based off so what now? Yeah, exactly, Like usually
it's based off Oh Tony Stark landed in a you know,
O cave. Oh, But in this episode he goes, this
is a car. It's this It's like he pimped off
in one vision. I don't want to see anything from
white Vision right now until we get him in the
real sacred timeline stuff. So seeing this that bugs me
more than seeing Storm, which is just like gonna be
some random Storm from a universe that's gonna be cool
because she's a whole mill neer, Like I'm all for that.
This I'm more like this is very odd. But maybe
they're just gonna say he's always starts as a white vision.
I don't know, but yeah, I have no issues with
Storm being in this because this is just a fun
series for the most die hard fans. No one in
my family, none of my friends, the people that watch,
like we talk about Wicked gladyir in the one Super
Movie year. They're not gonna be like, oh I heard
Storm wasn't what if? Like no believe it? Yeah, what
do they do? Like this is a like a very
little watch show. It's a niche show for the hardcore audience.
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm completely inagreeent with you. I didn't know
people were getting up in arms because to me, it
just doesn't really make sense. And it's not like it's
just Storm right like it's Storm as like thor like
like it is a different version of the character, Like
we're not gonna be getting this version when she comes
to the MCU and like we already had her in
a show this year that you can make the argument
it is a part of the MCU because it is
just multiverse. Yeah, it's all multiverse. So I don't get
that at all. I'm super hype for that. And yeah,
I I honestly I thought it was strange seeing snow
vision white vision here of.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know vision, right, we call them snow against.
We don't like white visions a little off putting.
Speaker 2: It sounds odd. Yeah, I don't know. I'm interested in
in in what makes this much different, right, because last
time we got white vision.
Speaker 1: That's what some people have for that new Captain America trailer,
you know, I'm like, oh, that's all my Steve Rogers to.
Speaker 2: Throw a helmet on them. Let's make him the white
vision of a white helmet of course.
Speaker 1: Okay, moving on, Yeah, so we got snow vision, you know,
witness the season iron Hard, iron Heart, which is which
is funny. We're getting more like right there.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what she's up to. I'm
very curious again, Barbosa, that we're getting a seemingly Bucky
and Red Guardian episode, which is just like, which is
fine because you know, it's multiverse whatnot. But I just
feel like anyone would be like, well, we're gonna do
the Thunderbolts movie. Like I'm still excited to see it,
but like I'm a little less type because like, this
is what I want is stuff like Okay, Kate Bishop
and shun Hi. I don't think in the near future
we're seeing that team up, So let's have it here
with with Bucky and Red Guardian. I'm like, well, we're
gonna also get that next year. So that is like
a little less hyped for me now.
Speaker 2: So an the other one wasn't like a different era, right,
like this one, like this one's old Westernee and then
what was Lucky and uh.
Speaker 1: It just looks like they're like in war.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like they're in Thunderable.
Speaker 1: Because look it's it's but lo, it's young Red Guarden.
So I think they're gonna say, like what if Guardian
they met at that time? But it's like, okay, I
guess you know, yeah exactly. Yeah, I'm for an adventure.
Always see what's going on there? Though? Interesting?
Speaker 2: Dog?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How dog was Yeah, to understand what if Jacks
the eye shot here we go you can hear you
hear there? I guess that there you kidnap a duck.
I was born to flash pause right there. I've said
before one of my biggest disappointments introduced the back in
twenty fourteen, barely used, barely use anything. Why is he
not a member of the Guardians of Galaxy? Why is
he not? Why is he not a Marvel special presentation? Bastards? Bastards?
So I'm happy to see he'll be in an episode.
Speaker 2: Here with Darcy too. That'll be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good bearing there, Dormot. So this is
interesting because you got dorm Mamu and then you also
which I don't know who that is, but you is
it SEUs?
Speaker 2: He's got a leading bolt in his hand, looks like.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I think you're right. But you got
Dormmu and then you also got Cassilia's coming up. So
it looks like we're gonna get a very doctor strange,
one centric what episode, which is good because two characters
we haven't seen in a very long time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well we left Defense first. Who's this? That's Moonnight?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he's in that Mech episode because later on
you see a Mech Moonnight, you know, Coln Shoe and stuff.
So they got that whole transformist.
Speaker 2: See you right there, it's like a vultron right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's finished it, which kind of cute. You know.
He says Avengers assemble and like, you know, yeah, yeah,
just go on the machine.
Speaker 2: So now this is sick like that. I don't like
a big Gundam guy or anything but me either yet
and I went through a whole trump Yeah, great show.
Speaker 1: Similar power range as well too, right, they would like
put the things together. So yeah, like that's not what
I'm super riped for, but.
Speaker 2: It could be fun totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that's Monica Rambo like fully powered up.
I think there, Oh good Hulk. See pause there, that's
what's Oh good pause knowing you stay right there, stay
right there. That's fine because the other watchOS. I'm again
the season's gonna end in a hole. The first four
episodes will just be offshoots and then we'll get into
the whole. Oh we're all connected, we're fighting this. Like
I'm a little less excited for that, but whatever, that's
what they've done. But uh, and then this is exciting
because that's fucking Quinn brook Beck right there. That's mysterio
and I don't care. Yeah that I don't know what
they're doing with him, but that's uh, that to me
could be super fun. So I'm very excited about that.
So there's some couple like spicy characters. I'm like, Okay,
this is this is could be some fun stuff going on.
Speaker 2: That's awesome because Mysterio. I love Mysterio as a character,
like always been one of my favorite Spider Man character
villains just just for the look alone, Like I just
always loved his his appearance, and I feel like the
more I watch Spider Man Far from Home, I like,
I like that Mysterio less. But like the first time
that we got it, I loved it, Like I love
that it was just a trick the whole time, Like
it's really smart on like how they would do this
like Magic Man to make it just like updated.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I am looking forward to see a different version.
And uh, I don't know, I feel like I didn't
notice that it was mysterious first, and now that I'm
like just palating that, it's like pretty much on par
with the Storm hype, like like that's so excited to
see what's all out of this.
Speaker 1: That's thing in these trailers they just throw so much
people at you right, So yeah.
Speaker 2: M hmm. What if the eternals ever were thinking.
Speaker 1: It's the only answer, they just die right away? By
Thanos is what hand?
Speaker 2: What some great faces?
Speaker 1: Yep? Nice?
Speaker 2: Maybe it's time that we called in some help.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I look at that as especially when I heard her
voice and it went like I'm getting children right now?
God damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a show. I love the classic like chills
one because I guess you know, it's a good chills.
The other one is just a little just as sure
as a rock is covered in chills already. It's also
the cowboy hat too. That's just sells and everything.
Speaker 2: But put him in that Weef episode with the key Bishop.
Speaker 1: And shh yeah yeah fuck yeah. I get on the horse. Yeah,
red ones about the bombs. Yeah, he bring the horse down.
The horse can't even r. All right, let's take our
last at break and then we'll finish up with some
topics and another trailer.
Speaker 2: Don't we Do we have mission? Possibly?
Speaker 1: Do we need to pull it up for like a
we're talking about that trailer, but do we need to
pull out for a breakdown? No? I just wanted to Yeah,
we're talking, we're talking about Dory, we'll be right back.
My god, this guy trying to hijack what do you
mean you mean? No? Yeah, So we're gonna talk about
Mission Possible, Nole's new movie, and then what else did
I have in there? All right? The Dumbledore front runner? Yeah,
leave a leave Mission I Possible last, we'll start. We'll
start that. So the guy that's playing potentially playing Dumble doore,
have you seen anything? If not, because this could be
a quick one.
Speaker 2: I saw the I saw the actor, I saw the look.
What does this mean? What does this mean?
Speaker 1: Mark? Rylance?
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: What does this mean?
Speaker 2: You're feel like there's something I missing?
Speaker 1: No, I was just asking, do you do you know
the actor of Wall to say that I.
Speaker 2: Saw the image and I saw it. I'm like, damn,
that's that fits.
Speaker 1: That looks good, have long hair and everything.
Speaker 2: Why did I not see that guy when I did
my you know draft pick.
Speaker 1: Yes, go check out everybody. We did our Harry Potter fancast,
which she'd all fucking trash told you no, you know
nostro domus over here. I'm like, eh, I feel like
we should do this because it's like they have like
it shows up for two years now. But I'm like,
they're casting these kids. You know, they're going to cast
these adults soon and now already, like two weeks after
we did. It's like, oh, the front runner for Dumbledore
is that? And uh yeah, for me, he's uh, he's
a good pick. He's not, he's on my pick, I'll
say that, But he's a good because I've heard that
double doore in the books. At the beginning books, he's
a bit more goofy and the kind of like jokey,
and this guy can do that where he can come
off very jokey and juvial, but he could become very
dark and serious. So I think he's a very solid pick. He's,
you know, British actor, so I think they're gonna keep
with that theme that I talked about. But yeah, it's
not something that I was like, oh fuck, yeah, this
is a really great pick. It's just somebody's like, okay,
that makes sense. Yeah, he's a ready player one. I
really liked him more scarier, but in a couple of
years ago he was some bones and all and fuck
that was a creepy performance. But uh yeah, Oscar Winner actors.
So they're going after some big name, so I'm excited
that we're getting this news because that means soon that
we're gonna start like they're probably I don't know if
they're gonna nairow them down one by one or just
go for whoever, but I mean, soon we're gonna start
getting news about the other ones. And I'm just so
curious when they get to I said this semi like
when we get to Snape, Like, I know, double Doore
is definitely important, but for me, I think like stays
my favorite, but Snake just because like there's so many
times where he's the adversary, he's the friend, there's the
big reveals, so that happened with him. He's such an
important character. Mike Man, they gotta like, they gotta nail
that casting. That has to be somebody that even then
if it's even if it's a no name actor that
just ends up being great, that's fine, but that's what.
It has to be a no name actor that's fucking great,
or it has to be a name that's like I
don't think they can be like, oh, we're gonna go
for a really we're gonna go for a hot take
pick on this one. It's like, no, you gotta get
somebody that's gonna do well. So I'm just exciting now
that we're we're getting this cast now to see like, okay,
we're gonna get that McGonagall and hag where like we're
gonna and like fuck, when we get Quarrel, it's like,
oh that we know it's on the back of it,
Like does he look like he has that on his
back of his head?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: So? And super Mike, I'm one hundred percent with you.
I'll always remember as a guy that stole Stoane's Oscar.
I agree. I don't think he deserved it for Bridge
of Spies and I always have a chip on my shoulder.
So of course when he saw I was like when
I saw him that, I'm like, oh, yeah, of course
he's gonna be in that bad very good actor. So
uh in Nole's movie, lots of good actors out of
that Lapte Nwongo and Halfway and Tom Holland or sorry
end Zendaya, but then also Tom Holm, Matt Damon scheduled start.
You weren't on the newscast like week last week when
me and Tara talked about just Holland and Damon, But
what do you think about this cast so far, there's
still no official development of what the movie is. There's
tons of rumors, but Nolan's campus said, don't believe anything
that's out there, so who knows what that means. But
what do you think of this cast so far?
Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a good bunch.
I think I think we get some good juice out
of that of those pairings. And I mean, I just
trust Nolan with like my whole life. I trust fall
right into any movie that he's making these days. Yeah,
with whoever get give him, whoever give him? The task Master.
Speaker 1: Lady Hey should be good? Should I like her? And
hit Man, you know, back in the day, and.
Speaker 2: She was she's a blond girl, she's a hit man,
that's she was.
Speaker 1: She's a love interest. Yeah, and then yeah, she's a
bond girl. One of my least favorite bond girls, but
a bond girl nonetheless. But uh yeah, No, there's not
much to say here. I'm excited to see him pair
with Anne Hathways. I think this is the third time
because we've got Interstellar rises. I don't think I'm missing anything,
So I think that'll be good. I don't think so. Yeah,
and that It's funny though like other so I guess
not because who do we have? We have so we
have Damon and Hathaway's returners, then we got Holland Lapida
and Zendia having like halfways great. I'm just focused on
the Day and Lapedia just because Nolan hasn't worked with them.
It's interesting because Appenheimer he did that too, But I
feel like like it's Josh Hartnett and like what are
the let me just pull up the name. Yeah, like
he has the Nolan crew. But then because like Emily
Blunt he had how do you work with her before?
Am I wrong on that? Why does it feel like
he worked with Emily Blunt before? And Oppenheimer? I don't know.
But anyways, like you know what, No, I'm proving my
theory wrong. I'm completely taken it back because I just
thought like Lepida, Zendia, tom hol and these were some
very big choices for the Don Nolan crew people. But
like Appenheimer, he had like Downy and Pew, so already
I'm like, oh, yeah, those are big names. So I
like that where of course anybody's gonna work at the chance,
like do anything to work with them. The word going
around that Zenda's rolls like a small one, So I
imagine it could be something like Pew not saying like
it's gonna be like she's naked, having said yeah, yeah,
it could be, but like I think it's gonna be
something like size of that, but yeah, it's the cat
like and Lapita like to me, that's who I was.
I always said, like I was going back and forth
between Pew and Lapita for the best actress in the world.
Now I got Stone up there because I think Stone's
just been on run. But Lapida's still to me in
that solidified top five like slot right now. Even this
year with Quiet Place, she was great. So her and
Nolan together, that's just like another like fuck, like can't
wait to see what they do. Is this cast? Like
even again, like you don't have you can just say
Nolan and then show this cast. Don't tell me the title,
don't tell me what is just say hey, July twenty fifth,
twenty twenty six, Nolan Movie's gonna be there. It's like, fuck,
I'm there, so I'm happy. So far there's up been
someone added where I'm like, oh, that's I don't know
how I feel about that. It's just every time it's like,
oh this wee keeps getting better and or somehow you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, no, it's it's all positive news in my mind.
Speaker 1: And then finally Mission Impossible looks funny enough. Finally, uh,
the Final Reckoning. Obviously they know what it's called.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even get a title out of this because
it's been it's been switched from Dead Wrecking Part two. Yeah, right,
they broke away from the part one and two after.
Speaker 1: It was Dead Wrecking Part two, and then it was
just Mission Possible eight, and that's Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning.
So what do I think clever good way to go
from Dead Reckoning to Final Reckoning. We we haven't confirmed this,
but we're talking that we probably because we announced years
ago we're gonna do a retro and they say, oh,
we don't know if this is the final one, but
now it looks like that because seven underperformed. I think
they're like, yeah, maybe the juice is gone out of here.
So and I think with Final Reckoning, like this better
be the last one. And I to me, like, I
love these most of these movies. I love Tom in here,
but I think it is time to move on. Or
at least take a break because they're coming out quite
a bit. Like I said, they're still they're still great.
But yeah, this trailer really good. They always have great marketing,
really good. They're trying to hit on the heart strings.
I think it was smart that they called the found wrecking.
I think it was also smart that we were talking
about the discord that in this trailer you don't see us.
You don't see or hear a single thing about the entity. Now,
the entity is probably in this movie, but I think
they're smart not to put in the trailers because people
did not enjoy that. And I hope I don't think
I'm right because I think that it is like all
prepare your stuff. But my hope is like cold open
first mission of this movie, they like destroy the entity
and the rest of it is like the the events
that proceed destroying of the entity. Yes, but I don't
know if that'll be the case. Lots of stuff in here.
They show the fucking rabbits foot in here from Mission
possible three, which is very interesting. So yeah, I'm I'm
all game. I think I'm more excited if this is
for sure that they're writing this as the final one,
because I think that you can get your logan ending,
you can get you no time to Die ending. I
think that gives it more and I think that's good
for marketing as well too, because if if like whatever
happened with the last movie, don't understand I drafted. I
thought after Top Gun, oh Man, people love Tom Hanks
or Tom they do love Tom Hanks, they love Tom
Cruise for some reason, they just said, ah, We're not
gonna come out to this one. And still I'll pull
up with Kirklands talk. And it still did well, but
just not nearly as well some of the other ones.
I think trying to you know, symbolize this is the
final time that will get a few extra butts in
the seats because it was last time. I can see
him Beethan Hunt hanging off this balcony or train or
whatever it is. So but yeah, overall, thought the trailer
was great and I'm excited to do a retro with
you guys. I'm excited to watch that movie. What do
you think about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I I thought it was an alright trailer. I
didn't get like to me, it's just like a like
a cement mixer of just shots like from the movie. Yes,
Like I thought the music was like pretty generic too,
Like it just seemed like, Okay, why don't see this
is I don't know, it was strange. It seemed like
some moments I could I could smell a little little
something of the theme, but like they really didn't just
go fall balls to the walls. So like it to me,
it felt like like a movie that had come out,
that someone had made, just like like a collaborative type
trailer for and kind of sounds negative, but I like,
I think everything I saw looked good. Like I'm still
very much looking for this movie. Yeah, I thought Dead
Reckoning was quite a dip from Fallout. I think, like
I was gonna say fall It's my favorite, but then
I'm remembering Philip Seymour Hoffman and that third Man and
we'll do it.
Speaker 1: We'll cemented and the I'm so excited to do that retro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be lots and lots of fun. Last
time I had Paramount Plus before I unsubscribed, it was
just slowly going through those movies. Again. Yeah, there's some
there's some juice in there. So very much looking forward
to that, and I'm very much looking forward to this Adventure.
I'm looking forward to, like those underwater shots when they're
in the North finding that frozen man in the water.
Oh and yeah, I'm glad that watching this trailer, I
didn't think of the entity like once, which was good.
I think it's a smart decision. I did laugh at
the end of this trailer because it's just like Sally,
like the set of the Final Adventure, like this big moment,
it's just Tom Cruise look at the screen like trust
me one final time. And I'm like, this is just
Tom Cruise talking to all the fans that are like
he's trying to like get their money to go see
this movie, Like trust me, we can make another good
Mission Policle movie. Just trust Me one more time. Yeah,
I thought it was a funny way to end the trailer.
But I mean I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be
their opening day. I'm a sucker for these And yeah,
ever since I've started seeing these movies in theaters, it's
been like I have to see them. I think it
would have started. What was the one before Fallout was
that Ghost Protocol Broke Nation, Broke Nation. I think that
was the first one I'd seen in theaters. Actually, so
since then, that's when I've been going on my theater
experience and yeah, love follow. I really hope this hits
like the Fallout level, honestly, especially that at the end,
like end of the adventure, Heley Otwell's in there. I
remember seeing Rebecca Ferguson in this trailer.
Speaker 1: I didn't see her either.
Speaker 2: Okay, what happened? Did she die in the last movie
or some of them? I'm misrememory.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, you seems suspicious right now.
Speaker 1: You think you need to go rewatch diracting part one.
Speaker 2: There you go, it's been You'll get some answer.
Speaker 1: They definitely tell you what's going on their character there.
So you got paulm in here too. I'm excited to
see her join. Yes, yeah, are you? My final question
is are you? Are you happy? Like are you find
that being the fun? Like if they stick to it,
like you think it's a good time to sunset this
or do you think they get a big hit on
their hands and then like oh see, if they just
fucking cut Tomsons in half, then he's done. I'm saying,
like if they in in a way where he's like
happy a to diner, like like what are you in
the mind of, hey, this is great and big hit,
eh whatever, just do another or do you think yeah,
like to time to go out on the sword?
Speaker 2: Definitely the former. I think it makes a lot of money.
Just just keep making them there. Yeah, they're good movies.
Maybe give a little bit of like of a buffer
in between the movies, because as you mentioned, like they
have been coming out more recently, it seems these last
ones because like, like what's the average of like years
between each movie, Like especially looking back in the the
like the first one, like I feel like they're well,
they have some big jumps, but.
Speaker 1: There was then yeah, once Ghost Protocol happened, then they're
pumping them out, so we got maybe not too much,
but so yeah, I first ones ninety six and then
the second one is two thousand, so four years, and
then three is two thousand and six, so six years,
and yeah, no this hap again and then four is
twenty eleven, so another that's five years, and then Rogue
Nation is fifteen, so that's four years between, and then
twenty eighteen is three years. And then and then it's
tough because Deadreckting came out in twenty twenty three, where
that was COVID and some strikes too, right, so that
was some stuff. So but that is a that's a
five year get so really it's like a on average
four to five years. So I actually thought was a
bit sooner, but yeah, four to five years.
Speaker 2: So okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Tom's also getting old though too.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the thing. Like you, I could see them
at some point in time doing like a legacy sequel
without Tom in the future, but this is very much
Tom's game, and yeah, I don't know, yeah, maybe maybe
maybe lower percentage than that we would be getting, like
even if it does do really well, just another one
in the future, But like, what else is Tom doing
moving forward? I feel like it's just well, they're doing
another Top three.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're doing doing Tough three. And then he's worked
with the ale Honda and Rito for his Oscar run
next year. That's the guy who won got Leo his
Oscar for the Revenant, so he's doing a movie with
him and Birdman. So he's doing a movie with that guy.
So I think I think cruises in full on. I'm
gonna I'm gonna go get that Oscar. Now I've broken
my ankle enough times. It's time to there's time, you know,
Like I always say this, like when we did also
we had fun with it, but like, god, what's our
favorite Christmas movie? Have a retrospective with Arnold? No Eyes
White Shut? Yeah, Like I I do miss as much
as I love Top Gun and Mission post which Top
Gun he gets do a bit more. I love Tom
Cruise just in a drama movie. And I am that's
the one thing I am excited about him getting older
that hopefully he'll stop doing action stuff and we can
get that guy back where it's just because he's he can't.
He is a great actor upon that stuff. But I
think he's gonna transition in more uh, drama stuff, Like
I'd love to like remember when there's those rumors he's
gonna be once upon a time Hollywood, It's like, fuck, man,
Like that's what I want to see. Like I want
to see Cruise in a Tarantino movie, you know, Like
that's like that's where like I love Mission Impossible, but
let's let's let's have work with some of these other
directors and get him in fucking a dvil Neuve movie
or so like like come on, like I I think
there's just so much well in doing because he's the
same side. But I think he's just so like he's
kept himself to this box with people he works with
all the time, which is great, it worked out for him,
but I think it's just like I want to see
him experiment a little, you know, but we'll see it.
Speaker 2: There you go, there we go.
Speaker 1: We've done it, les, gentlemen, We're here, but we're gone now.
So uh, thank you very much everybody for tuning in.
I'm not sure when the next newscast will be. Obviusly
will not be on that one, so thank you Kirkland
for holdens down do. Yeah, so that will be for
a not least until another two weeks, as the guys
got Gladiator review next week, so that's why, and then
the newscast and then honestly for everyone listening, there won't
be many newscasts uh into December, because there's stuff like
Creature Commandos song like three and Lord of the Rings
movies and that you just takes up the Thursday slot.
So you'll still get like bread and Butter and side
quests and everything like that. And I'm sure, like you know,
there is rumors to be a Superman trailer, so I'm
sure if that happens, you and Taylor would do some
sort of you know, quick breakdown thing. But yeah, lots
of surprisingly lots of movies coming out here in November December.
But I'll be excited from now on to be a
listener and get my ears. I won't know when the
drops are coming, you know. So like that Hairson forward one,
that'll be me every time. So no one got me.
You can you can look on the I guess it
covers me, but it it legitally scared me. You jump
scared me when you hit the forward one.
Speaker 2: But some of the videos are like they just so
much more jump scary than others, like the classic dune
scream that one. Would you know that would be if
someone would drop that one on someone. Been a while
to bring it back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you Dalton for the nice words. But yes, no,
I'll be gone for a few months. But uh, you know,
when I returned, there'll be lots to talk about, and
these guys will hold There'll be some fun times and
sure the whole time will be gone. There'll be some
jokes at my expense, and I'll just have to keep
track of them and get you guys back when I return,
you know, so I'll be happy to be a listener
for a bit. But that's it for GV six point forty.
I'm here from this next I'll not be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye.