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Speaker 1: Let's go to overtime. Baby, what's up?

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the country, the SEC. It just means more, and we're

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here to talk football. We're here with a little coffee

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and coming off of rivalry week, we have the man,

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the myth, the legend. You know him, you love him

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as Casey Kreegan is back with us. Casey, how's it going,

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what's happening. We're gonna skip over Craig and go right

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to you. How's your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 3: It was great? Thanks Rob, appreciate it, and hello to

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you and Craig appreciate you. Guys. Having me on as always.

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You know, I love being here. So even though my

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team may have lost, and I'm sure we may hear

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about it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Wait, who is your team?

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Speaker 3: The New York Rangers.

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Speaker 2: We're talking. We're talking college football, and we will get

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into that at some point because robbery weekend just passed.

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But before before we dive in too deep, Craig is

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still covering overtime, So let's let's page on over to.

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Speaker 1: Him this time. Do we go the field? What are

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we doing? What happens?

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Speaker 2: Okay, off the jump? Do we like the overtime format? No, casey.

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Speaker 3: I did until Friday night. I thought it was great

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because normally, you know, one team scores the two, the

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other team doesn't, it's over. But when they just continued

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to go, I was following on Twitter and all the

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talking heads out there were like, this is awful. Can

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we just like start kicking field goals at this point?

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So I really I was.

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Speaker 1: Trying to do the recap and like try to figuring

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out like which overtime it was, and I thought I

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heard something too, like even the players are like when

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do we go for two? You know, like because I

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think I feel like Brent Key almost liked Brent Bryan

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always sorry, who's That's why I still fun set up

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for him. But like bran Keeth, even after the second

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overcome when they scored, he was going one one, one again,

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but you have to go for two at that point.

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It's just like it's just like confusing. It's like the

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Ghost Runner for baseball. Yeah, I saw that analogy somewhere

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this bit this weekend, just kind of do it like

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the NFL. Each each team gets a possession. If they

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both scored, great than the one who scored, you know,

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next ends like make it football. Don't do this thing

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from the three yard line because it's not football. Okay,

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I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it. It's so much fun. It's so much fun.

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And if you want to avoid it, then win the

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game in regulation and don't play with your food. Georgia. Look,

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you have the first overtime to get it done like.

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Speaker 1: A normal football team. If we would have kicked an

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extra point in the third quarter rather than going for two,

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we would not have had to worry about these eight

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overtime silliness. But Kirby, Okay, so then we're not gonna.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna blame the playoff format because of your

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I am the at decision. I am No, we're not

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blaming that. We're not blaming it. I completely agree thought.

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I think it's great. Eventually you get to a point where, hey,

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if we're backing up and we're playing from the twenty five,

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we're backing up, we're playing from the fifty, we're kicking off.

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Whatever you want to do. Eventually, just put the ball

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down and see if you can get three yards. If

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you can get three yards, then let's let's move on.

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That's what football is about, right, smash mouth. You hit

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each other in the in the in the mouth. Can

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I move the ball? Can I outleverage you enough to

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pick up three yards?

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Speaker 3: It was pretty obvious that the teams couldn't for seven

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of the eight overtimes exactly.

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Speaker 1: But here's the deer, here's the deal. Wow, uh, Buster

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Faulkner apparently forgot that Haynes King got three yards every

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time he touched the ball, and for whatever reason, he

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just made him throw like I predictable.

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Speaker 2: No, you're giving him. You're giving him options. If you're

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throwing the ball, you're giving him options.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what what are the options? I'm gonna put it

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on the hash and then I'm gonna roll out. I'm

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gonna flood one side. We're gonna have a pick or

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a not pick, and we're trying to do something like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then the the added option asked Casey is

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if the quarterback has one open, then he runs into

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the end zone. Kelan Or Sellers, I mean, right, is

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that not? Is that not what happens Craig, because.

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Speaker 1: He just was he just trying to in there and some.

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Speaker 3: Pot he got it in there early too, Like I

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Speaker 1: That was early. Got Okay, I have.

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Speaker 2: One more question. I have one more question before we

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before we jump in, because I don't want to I

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don't want to get too deep into the into the

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eight eight overtimes just yet, because we didn't talk about.

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Speaker 1: It, cal, Why don't we want to get into the eight?

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Speaker 2: No, I want to talk about flag planting first, because

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you have beef with flag planting and I need to

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get it out of the way. I need to clear

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it off of my agenda because I'm looking at the

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show schedule and I will not come back to it

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if we don't clear out to begin with, Craig's filibuster

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and go.

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Speaker 1: Just stop, okay, Like it's not cool to go stomp

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or to go kick up your your you're trying to

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plan a flag and artificial turf. It's not classy. Go

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win the damn game and take the trophy and go home.

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Don't go and act like some badass at the fifty

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yard line and go kick something up. You're not cool,

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You're not tough.

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Speaker 2: So just you know, it's even worse when you lost

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the game, when you're when you lost the game and

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you're a sore loser and you go out and try

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to steal the flag that's being planted on your field,

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like was it not enough?

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Speaker 1: But what are you supposed to do?

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Speaker 2: You take your lumps and go to the locker room

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because you lost in the sixty minutes that was played

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between the lines. You not only lost the game, now

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you're going to lose the scuffle because you go out

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there and try to steal the flag, Like, what what's

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going on?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Are you just a glutton for l's today? Because you

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couldn't pull off the wind in regulation, so now you

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have to go out and stir something up by taking

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the flag Look, this has just become a thing. When

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teams win, especially on rivalry weekend, the flag gets planted.

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It's unless they want to make a rule and say

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that you can't do it. Then there's a clear way.

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People hated, people hate did Cam Newton and his celebrations

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and his Superman and his dabbing whatnot? And for once,

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I really agree with him when he said, if you

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don't want me to celebrate, don't let me in the

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end zone. And the same thing goes for flag planting.

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If you don't want the flag planted, then win the game.

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Ohio State, do you have thoughts here? Can you break

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this time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It does. I'm going to be boring. I'm sorry.

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I don't care one way or the other. But what

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But the thing that it brought me to was was

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it two thousand and four Clemson South Carolina brawl that

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after the game the both teams decided to not play postseason?

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So I'm going to lobby for the fact that I

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think Michigan and Ohio State should drop out of the postseason.

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Speaker 1: I would be totally they basically with the way they

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played this year. I mean basically those losses they had

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and some of the games they played, they basically.

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Speaker 4: Lobbied to basically go Michigan. Michigan analytics, Well, Michigan's not

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making it to the Outback Bowl. They're not good enough

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for that, Relaquess. Well, actually, Craig.

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Speaker 2: The sponsors the bag, well, the blooming Onions did.

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Speaker 3: I also think Ohio State should probably be banned from

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the state of South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Well, they have a hard time their fans, They have

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a hard time with High State. Michigan have have had

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had a tough, tough go against the game Cocks anyway.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I've only beaten Clemson once and they've

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never beaten the game Cocks.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, it's not it's no, it's no. It's no

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fun for them around here.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: All right, Is that is that what we needed to

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say to talk about flag planting?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, grow your ass up. It's dumb.

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Speaker 2: What's your suggestion to clear it out?

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Speaker 1: Commission, have some class and just don't do it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's clearly not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: This is college football, Craig.

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 2: But it's just you're thinking in the game that somebody, especially.

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Speaker 1: In iverybody's gonna strong a way. So what are you

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gonna do? Are you gonna be like the SEC and like, oh,

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I'm gonna find find the team fifty thousand dollars?

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Speaker 2: I just I just take casey. If Clemson comes over

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to the SEC eventually, when Sankeye decides to finally put

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his foot down and create the Super League, do you

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have to stop meeting at the pall?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that.

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Speaker 5: I think the grandfather are you grandfathered in?

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Speaker 3: You may be grandfathered in. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well worth investigating.

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Speaker 1: If a booster can put the money down to Greg,

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I think anything could be grandfather in. I mean, look, Texas,

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Texas got right in there. Texas had a hard time

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four a little old Texas. A and M still hasn't

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won an SEC championship and it doesn't played for SEC championship.

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Speaker 2: Are you transitioning us?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: What it is is a segue? It feels like a second.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know you're the boss, You are the

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one keeping us on track. Get back from the agenda, sir,

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Speaker 2: Let's run through these games. Let's talk about Georgia first.

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We've we've run through our thoughts on the overtime format.

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Let's talk about the game. Okay, this was dominated by

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the Yellow Jackets for for what eighty percent of the

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football game in regulation? I thought it was done. I

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literally looked at my wife when they scored to go up.

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What was it, twenty six or twenty seven to thirteen,

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twenty seven to thirteen? I said, it's all. I said,

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ball game, because I think how but on the on

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the on the flip side of that coin, I've kind

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of been in George's corner all year to say, when

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they want to turn it on, they've clearly turned it on.

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Speaker 5: When they want to turn it on, they've just clearly

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turned it on.

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Speaker 2: What what happened? I think there's there's the talking point

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of the dogs are extremely inconsistent, and then there's the

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talking point that I'm gonna call whiny, the whiny talking

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point of the mist and air quotes here targeting call

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on the fumble on the Haines King fumble. Thoughts from

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either of you, from the ACC from the SEC perspective,

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how do we think? Why? How?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Where does Georgia fit?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how, but you don't blow a fourteen

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point lead. I don't care who it's to. Right when

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they went up they had, they had momentum. When Haines

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King runs up the middle and you know, it got

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scary for a second. Then you go back up fourteen.

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You can't blow that lead. I don't care. Was it targeting?

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a Clemson guy. What is targeting? Tell me what targeting is?

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I mean it was launched from indicator, all these words

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to the helmets. But againting.

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Speaker 1: Because I know, and it's not me defending. I know

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Jackson's helmet hits the ball. Jackson's helmet does not hit

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the shoulders, does not hit the head of Hayes King.

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Does that make it not targeting? Because every time when

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I actually hear targeting, it's up up in the head area.

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Or does it not matter? Is the problem?

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Speaker 3: We had guys that were just a targeting call waiting

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to happen. We actually still have one, but he doesn't

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see the field much anymore. But so I don't know.

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I genuinely don't know. I mean, from what I thought,

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head down launch contact with the head. I mean, you

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saw King's head snap back, and they obviously got the

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the face mask. But you're right, Greg, he got the

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ball too.

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Speaker 1: So it's like like, because that's the thing, right, if

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you hit the ball, then you're gonna jolt up and

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probably hit upper chest. You know, like like where does

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it live?

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Speaker 3: I didn't live. I thought it was clean. I thought

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it was helmet on.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, and I think that's where that's where I

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kind of come in. It is like, you know, Andy

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Staples had a great point that because of the turnover,

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they looked at it. They had to look at it.

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They look at every turnover, so if they thought it

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was targeting from that perspective, they at least looked at it.

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It's not like they only went with the live look. However,

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in the live game action, where do you see targeting

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called the most? In terms of where on the field

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of play? In the secondary across the middle, the fact

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that it's the scrum of the line of scrimmage, he's

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super covered up. I mean, you can you can make

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the argument that the official standing in the backfield, she

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could have been able to call that. But you hardly

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ever see somebody running into this mass of line of

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linemen at the line of scrimmage and you're gonna and

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you're gonna get a targeting call. It's just it's just

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a little bit too difficult to see. And to your

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in casey Live, it did look clean.

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Speaker 3: And I think you're exactly right. No, none of the

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officials behind the line of scrimmage on the defensive side

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of the ball we're capable of making that call. Not

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because of ineptitude, but literally they couldn't see it. So

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it was either the referee or that center judge, whatever

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Speaker 1: To answer your other question as far as where does

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Georgia go, Georgia either bows out in the first round

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or they're playing for the national championship and they win,

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I literally think that is the gamut. Like, and I

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say this as watching all of their games this year,

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I don't know what to predict.

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Speaker 2: Well, you just read it now. They win their first

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round game and book it, Craig says, their national champions.

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Speaker 1: But this is what I'm saying, is like, I literally

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think it depends. I mean, you look at the the

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latest projection of kind of like where the AP is

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at right now. You've got them playing Indiana and then

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they would play Texas, they would play Texas after that,

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so they played Texas three times in a row. Again,

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Am I gonna be interested? Is it going to be focused?

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Because I'm almost starting to think the game in Austin

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was in admiration rather than what this potential found out right,

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And again, I I don't know, And maybe that's very,

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very crappy podcasting. Maybe Tony should fire me from the

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Georgia Beat writer, but I don't. I could see either way.

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I can see them, I can see them winning Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Are you impressed or or unimpressed by the same against

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Georgia Tech, because now you have George. Is Georgia Tech

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a quality win at this point?

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Speaker 1: No? I mean Georgia Tech is a pain in the ass.

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Speaker 2: Considering Ward Manuel almost said that it comes a bitting

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citadels he went last week. He backed himself out of

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backed himself out of it. But he was walking down

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that path, right.

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Speaker 1: But Lake, here's the deal, uh Buster Faulkner, Hayes King.

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I knew was going to give him a challenge. It's

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not a quality win because at the end of the day,

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you just got to show up and you've got to

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be the bigger team, and it just wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 3: And that's I think at home.

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Speaker 1: It's at home and where you're black and do this

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and do that, and it's like you're laying egg again,

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you're putt you're spotting a team seventeen points again in

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the first half. At some point it gets old.

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Speaker 3: That's a game the last few years, George's up thirty

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one nothing at halftime, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: And then consistently this year they're they're spotting teams, They're

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free and out, Aaron Smith is dropping them every every ball,

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and they're spotting teams fourteen seventeen points. At some point,

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it's just going to come back to bite their ass.

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It could get crooked against Texas and even a team

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like Indiana. Look what the hell they did against Purdue

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and then Kirstigna, he's gonna lay his foot off the guess.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Hey. One thing I will say before we

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move on from this game is just a tip of

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the cap to both of these schools for getting this

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game on Friday, because I think that it was an

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absolute treat and it got way more eyeballs. What a game.

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Imagine if this game had had had a lot of competition,

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because most people expected it to be a blowout.

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Speaker 5: I mean Vegas expected it to be a blowout.

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Speaker 2: So if it's not on Friday and people aren't just

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tuned in because what else are we going to watch,

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then you don't get as many eyeballs on the Magnificent,

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the Magnificent spectacle that was the comeback and eight overtime special.

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You know, I, you know, I think it's great, and

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I may I may be a little salty because I

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think the South Unicy Clemson should move their games to

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a different date. I completely understand Dabo's position to be

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to be fair and not moving it. I can potentially

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see a world where, in years to come, the Columbia

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version of the Palmeto Bowl is not on Saturday and

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the Clemson home games are on Saturdays, just because the

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two schools want to want to shake it up a

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little bit.

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Speaker 5: With that being said, let's move to that game.

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Speaker 2: Casey, from a from a Clemson perspective, what was the

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emotional roller coaster for you throughout? Let's go throughout the

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whole game, because it did get a little super emotionally

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roller coastery up and down at the end. But I

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was impressed with kay club Nick and he did more

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with his legs than I thought he would. But I

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was impressed most with Clemson's offensive line, banged up as

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they are and even getting some guys back, can't be

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one hundred percent really holding their own against South round

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defensive front.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they schemed well. I really do.

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I think Garrett Riiley schemed well. I think honestly, there's

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four drives in the beginning of the game, first and

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second quarter that they had opportunities to score. And when

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you're only scoring one time in those four opportunities against

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a top fifteen defense, arguably the best defense in the SEC,

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I think you have to capitalize on that. And from

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the first drive you as a Clemson person, I was

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able to cover the game against the Citodol last week

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and saw what they did to Clemson on offense with

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their little dive play to the tune of two hundred

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and fifty five some odd yards. I knew that Sellers

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was gonna and you and I talked previously offline about

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the running game. I knew that he was going to

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be a big factor. I happened to be listening while

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I was driving yesterday to Tim Berat, famed sports information

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director for Clemson, and he said the key to the

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game was keeping sellers at under forty five yards rushing.

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I think he multiplied that by six or thereabouts. I'm

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not a math guy, so I think, you know, when

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the roller coaster, as you speak about, is kind of

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the way that I speak to and think. So I'm

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sorry that I'm all over the place, but I think

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the end of the game, when it got to third

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and fifteen, there was a huge piece of me that

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was like, what's Shane gonna do on fourth down? You know,

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you keep it to third, you keep it to fourth

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and thirteen. And I trust the DBS, but I don't

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know why or how we didn't spy with Barrett Carter.

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He's a Bucket Award finalist, and he didn't show. I mean,

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he's great, don't get me wrong, but you figure he's

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going to be able to stop and run down sellers.

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But I'll be honest, Rob, I in my older days,

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I've softened it, definitely softened. They don't affect me as

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much as I guess with the little kid too. The

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games don't affect me. The losses don't affect me as much.

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So I was really impressed. I was impressed with Sellers.

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I mean, as petty as this is going to say,

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as I say it didn't, it doesn't affect me as much.

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It felt like the best team lost to the best

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player on the field, the better team. I won't say best,

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the better team I thought Clemson. I thought they schemed well,

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I thought they played defense really well outside of stopping Sellers.

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But yeah, I think that hats off. And I don't

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say a lot of nice things about South Carolina ever

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on the message board genius podcast, but hats off to

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you and the fans. I've heard nothing but positives from

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my friends and family that were at the game, from

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the opposing fans, the tailgating, I heard everything. And I

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hate going to this game. I hate it because it

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was so divisive when I was and that's again a nod,

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not a true Clemson fan was. I went to every

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game from the time I was eighteen to the time

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I was thirty eight, so and it just got so

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divisive towards the end, and not me, just from stuff

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I was seeing. So I vowed, and I haven't been

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back in eight ten years. I don't know what the

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math is nine years. I'll watch it, obviously, but I've

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heard nothing but positives and almost to the point where

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it's may push me back to go to Columbia next year.

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We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the most impressive thing for me, I'll

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pay you you guys a compliment as well as far

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as Clemson goes. Like I said, the offensive line impressed

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me with what they were able to do, But I

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think the most impressive piece to me was what Antonio

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Williams and Westco and Moore were able to do making

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big plays catching the ball. You know, the first the

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first big one goes to Westcot and Judge Collier has

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him strapped and tips the ball and it's just a

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phenomenal play to pluck it out.

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Speaker 3: Of the air.

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Speaker 2: And I just think over and over again, we saw

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Clempson's receivers be the aggressor in good coverage, in tight coverage,

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but a great throw and an an acrobatic catch beats

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perfect coverage every time. And so they were able to

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do that and make really big plays down the field.

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And in the past several years, the Clemson quarterbacks, whether

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it was dj Orcade in several matchups, have been a

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relative non factor. It's been the running game where Clemson

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has averaged over two hundred and fifty yards a game

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against South Carolina running the ball, so they haven't necessarily

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needed to throw it all that well. For the past

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couple of years. You know, it's been especially low passing yards.

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I think that it was ninety nine each of the

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past two years with DJ and with Kate, so they

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haven't really thrown the ball that well. And that was

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something that was impressive. Impressive to me against a pass

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rush that typically gets home and against the secondary that

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has had their share of takeaways all year, not until

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a tipped ball were they able to pick off k

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cleb Nick there to steal the game at the end

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of it. So really competitive. I think the question for

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me as we come out of this and we and

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we look at the playoffs and we'll kind of get

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more into this in a few minutes is one Clemson.

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And I'll quote a diehard Clemson fan that I was

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talking to this morning who said, we may just back

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our way into a bye week. And I think, you know,

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that's certainly on the table South Carolina. It's up for debate.

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We'll see what happens. It's all on the committee's hands.

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And there's a thousand different angles we can take on

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TH's gonna get in.

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Speaker 3: We may we may see some some clucking in the

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Midlands pulling for the Tigers this weekend, because I think

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you know from everything that I've read, the a SEC

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is a one a one team league. So if you

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can knock SMU out, have South Carolina back door their

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way in, you need a Clemson victory this weekend. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I would not be opposed. I would not be opposed

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to Clemson victory if that's what it takes. I've seen

473
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mixed reviews on what's gonna happen with absolutely. I've even

474
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:39,880
seen arguments that Miami is still in. We're gonna get

475
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,640
to that, all right. So a couple of other things

476
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we want to we want to mention here, Craig, as

477
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:45,599
we look at the SEC, Bama handles their business, wins

478
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,880
by fourteen in the Iron Bowl. That's five straight. Kaitlyn

479
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440
de Bor gets a little good will back with the

480
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:59,160
Tide fan base. What do you think, Craig, Just.

481
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Speaker 1: Let Jalen the ball and throw the ball like when

482
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they get too cute is the problem. So Jalen put

483
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:09,359
it on the ground twice. He threw an interception, but

484
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he ran for over one hundred. It's just lost opportunity.

485
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:17,359
You know. You look at Alabama. I'm on boldness in

486
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,200
here too. I'm gonna I'm gonna steal your agenda for

487
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,880
a minute, and I'm gonna put Alabama and Old Miss

488
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,119
both in here. They took care of business in their

489
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:36,039
rivalry games. And both you Oklahoma and you lost to

490
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,759
Kentucky those two fan bases. You don't lose to Oklahoma,

491
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you don't lose the Kentucky. You're fine. You did what

492
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,599
you're supposed to do. Hugh Freeze also, I thought had

493
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to quote the game after that. He's not the kind

494
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of guy who looks at the points on the scoreboard.

495
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,119
Shut up, you better better be better be hoping. You

496
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,400
don't go get John somewhere. All that the planes in

497
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the in the booshot Nuncle, get John. Some are all

498
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in fire his ass because they can.

499
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Speaker 2: I give you a little a callback stat for you. This,

500
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This tells it. This tells it for me. I don't

501
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even no this is from you. I don't even have

502
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,240
to watch it. I don't have to watch it. Mill

503
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Road seventeen carries for one oh four and three touchdowns

504
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:25,480
on the ground. Yep, Jarquest Hunter thirteen carries ball game?

505
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Speaker 1: What if? What if?

506
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 5: What if you said, actually, you've beat the drum?

507
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: What do you do if you're Auburn? Give the ball

508
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,559
to jarqust Hunter twenty plus carries? He gets twenty plus carries,

509
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:39,920
and really good things happen. That it's got to be

510
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,319
we're behind the sticks and we can't give it to him.

511
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Something I don't know.

512
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you don't know all of us.

513
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So I'm sure that there's a really good reason why,

514
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and I'm sure that we're just all more on. So

515
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I'm so up.

516
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Speaker 2: Enough enough about that, enough about that. Tennessee punches their

517
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,039
ugly orange ticket and they are They're in, I think

518
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:08,079
at this point, right, any debate from either of you

519
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,200
after winning against Vandy down seventeen.

520
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,759
Speaker 1: Who losses? You're good?

521
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: All right, So we're clear. So we're gonna see We're

522
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,079
gonna see smoky somewhere in the north. And then and

523
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then lastly, you get it.

524
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Speaker 5: H hook them.

525
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: McConaughey. You were sark arch with a package. They got

526
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,960
it done. It was pretty dominant, you know, honestly, honestly,

527
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,799
I was bored.

528
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: I was I was bored.

529
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: It was boring, But the play of that game was

530
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,640
the defensive end crashing on the fourth and goal of

531
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Texas A and M to close that game from seventeen fourteen.

532
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,359
Something I will not understand either, is you see this

533
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,640
all the time on that dive, the whole line, the

534
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,799
whole line will crash down and then for whatever reason,

535
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,680
they just refuse to block that defensive end. Now, granted,

536
00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:10,000
you need to have a hell of a lot of

537
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,279
speed off that as in order to grab that running back.

538
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:16,000
My god, is that's so damn impressive And that was

539
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,000
the play of the game for me, My boy, my boy. Arch.

540
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: What do we really think about Texas at this point?

541
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,599
Because they have the weakest schedule in the SEC That's

542
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,440
why they're a wireless team. Let's just let's just call

543
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,119
it what it is.

544
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,079
Speaker 1: Stop no, stop, Okay, listen, I'm done with strength and

545
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,160
schedule and Texas hasn't played anybody.

546
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: You can't be done with strength of schedule. It is

547
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,680
strength of schedule season. We're debating these teams and what

548
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,559
are we going to use?

549
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,519
Speaker 1: I can there has to be a metric because my

550
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,240
team is in the playoffs and yours isn't and that's

551
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,200
that's and that's the sad truth. But listen, Texas has

552
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:01,920
met every challenge. It's not their fault that Michigan sucks.

553
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,559
But Michigan just went on the road and beat Ohio State.

554
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:09,119
Texas manhandled Michigan earlier in the season. Texas went into

555
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,880
College Station and took care of business. They destroyed Texas

556
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,200
A and M's offense. I know that Texas A and

557
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,559
M scored more points against Auburn. They also scored more

558
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,920
points against your alleged number one game, Tucks. So stop.

559
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,799
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they're not in I'm just saying

560
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:32,480
they're not impressed as impressive as maybe we're giving them

561
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:32,880
credit for.

562
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: What do you want?

563
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: Do you want there?

564
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:37,599
Speaker 2: Clearly there, But.

565
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Listen, when you're boring like that, that becomes impressive. When

566
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,920
people start start pitching about you being not impressive and

567
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,839
your wins are ugly, that's when your wins are most.

568
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: I want them to be successful. I wanted I picked

569
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400
them to go twelve and o this year on the spreadsheet,

570
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,920
and then I picked Georgia to upset them in the

571
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,839
SEC Championship game and very well could happen.

572
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to see Pole Assassin two back flips on

573
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,519
the sideline. That's what I want to see.

574
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,799
Speaker 1: I asked that question in our chat the other day.

575
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,720
I'm like, every time I see you just things, I

576
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:18,359
think Pole Assassin and the Monkey, and I'm like, how

577
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,039
good of her recruiter? Are you that you were never

578
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:26,599
suspended your girlfriend? It's monkey bit a kid.

579
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Speaker 3: All right? Right now?

580
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: It's it's it's okay, it's it's really hard to it's

581
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,519
really hard to not reference Pole Assassin in this situation.

582
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,519
I feel like I feel like it just it deserves

583
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,000
it deserves credit just about every time.

584
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 5: So hey, so that's where we're at, and we're just

585
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,079
gonna park the.

586
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: SEC discussion until we see what what shakes out next

587
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,279
week with Georgia and Texas. But the bottom line is

588
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:04,680
they're both in. Craig is repping his team talking about

589
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,920
Georgia and he's throwing the hook him at me. Can

590
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,640
you pick a side? I know that the listeners can't

591
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,200
see us, but can you pick a side?

592
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: Listen? The key for Texas to win is they take

593
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,079
out that statue number three and they put in number

594
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:22,079
six years and that young man runs. Because what can

595
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,519
Georgia and I do. They cannot deal with a mobile quarterback.

596
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,599
If Queen yours in there, they're gonna pin their ears

597
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:30,440
back and they have the go after his ass.

598
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 5: It's hard to beat the team twice.

599
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: So we'll see what I can't move.

600
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: He can move. He moved just fine last night. He

601
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,759
if he if he type roped it down the sideline

602
00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:46,480
and almost took it fifty yards for a touchdown on

603
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:50,599
a bum ankle. He's not a statue. Give me a break.

604
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: He's not.

605
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,119
Speaker 2: He's not Arch in terms of his ability to run.

606
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,839
Speaker 3: I can't believe we're talking about manning and ability to run.

607
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,759
That's just.

608
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: How impressive. Like again, I'm gonna throw more flowers at

609
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,400
my boy Arch all all all of the accolades and

610
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,160
all of the pressure of being like that number one recruit,

611
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:19,000
the family heritage, the family lineage.

612
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 5: And he's and and spot duty.

613
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,839
Speaker 2: He is just really come through in the clutch.

614
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,319
Speaker 1: Hey, you need you need me to come in and

615
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,160
you know.

616
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: What quarterbacks out for a couple of games we handle

617
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,519
Mississippi State. You want me to come in the floor,

618
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,519
be good years, I've got you exactly. The tea bow

619
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,799
to Chris leak Is is really where we're at. That's

620
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,079
that's except for that's a disservice to Quinn because he's

621
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:50,519
not Gristly.

622
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 5: He's better than Christly. Give me, give me break, Craig,

623
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:53,559
all right.

624
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: I heard I heard arch Is transfer into Virginia next year.

625
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,000
Stop it one of I'm just gotta go right.

626
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:02,799
Speaker 1: What's going to the NFL?

627
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has to be a statue there.

628
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 5: He is going to the NFL.

629
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,359
Speaker 1: Gonna work.

630
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:12,039
Speaker 3: Listen, I think what Sellers Giants draft him?

631
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,519
Speaker 1: You know who? I saw a big board Giants, the

632
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:18,559
Giants drafting s Door Sanders.

633
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: I think that that this isn't an NFL. I have

634
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,240
not watched much NFL, but I think that's going to

635
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:24,880
be the pick.

636
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: That'll be really interesting. Deanna, New York.

637
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, so I think your top three quarterbacks

638
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,359
in the SEC next year. This is an all season.

639
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: Take, but.

640
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: Seller's arch probably Lagway. We're looking at pure ability. You

641
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,839
got somebody else in there.

642
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,079
Speaker 1: I thought was gonna be sure is gonna be at

643
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:54,319
Miami Ohio State.

644
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:55,119
Speaker 2: He's not.

645
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,359
Speaker 5: He's already he's already made.

646
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we could be shocked.

647
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: I mean money talks.

648
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:03,599
Speaker 1: I think he's I think I think I think he's

649
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:04,880
gonna get some money thrown.

650
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: When if Nico figured out how to hit hit the

651
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,880
side of the building, I'll put him in there.

652
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: Hang on, do you do we do we need to

653
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:13,760
give our do we need to do like everybody else

654
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,119
and give Billy napieranas for beating another crappy team.

655
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: The story there is malson, but that's not SEC, so

656
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,960
I'm not getting into it. I'll let somebody else cover it.

657
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:27,159
But it's one hundred.

658
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,639
Speaker 3: A chip move.

659
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,119
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, really quick, I got I have a

660
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,800
game for us, boys, have a game for us before

661
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,639
we move on, before we move on to I was wrong,

662
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,440
before we move on to Craigs lines.

663
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: Is this involved that we yell at each other more?

664
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,599
Speaker 2: No, this is just this is a simple guessing game.

665
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,800
I'm gonna read quotes from postgame press conferences yesterday from

666
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,920
SEC coaches. We're gonna go best three out of five?

667
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,599
How many can you guess correctly? You will both get

668
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,199
an opportunity to guess. We're going to go the honor

669
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:07,480
system here, honor system. So if Casey answers first, and

670
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:11,480
he says, and he says Kaitlin de Boor, then Craig

671
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,239
you know, don't just steal his answer. I mean, there

672
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,960
may be some strategy if you're up four to three

673
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:19,719
on the final pick and you don't want to give

674
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,360
it up, but you know, give me your honest guess.

675
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,320
All right, We're good, all right, all right? Quote number one,

676
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,400
This game was probably a lot different than then a

677
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,119
lot of people thought it would be. These guys came

678
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:38,159
in and played three safeties deep prevent defense.

679
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 5: I'll read it again.

680
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:43,559
Speaker 2: Game was probably different than a lot of people thought

681
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,519
it would be. These guys came in and played three

682
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:52,719
safeties deep prevent defense. Any any takers on which team

683
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,039
went up against a three safety.

684
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: Deep relates, because this is a bad quote.

685
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,079
Speaker 3: If you watched the game. Yeah, I watched this game.

686
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:07,559
I think is it Lane Kiffin?

687
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,079
Speaker 2: All right, Casey says it's Lane Kiffin. Craig, would you

688
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:12,960
like to venture guess?

689
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it was Jeff Lovey.

690
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: Casey is correct. It was your boy Lane Kiffin, who

691
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,920
had launched to say in the postgame press conference about

692
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,039
Ole miss No. Well, actually yes, because he stayed away

693
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:32,239
from it. And if I gave you a Lane Kiffin

694
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,000
quote about the playoff, it would have been extremely obvious.

695
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,239
This was a football quote. Craig. You just said that

696
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,360
you wanted to stop debating it and talking about strength

697
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,599
of schedules, and so I didn't give you that. I

698
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,400
gave you an actual football breakdown, and now you're whining

699
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,760
about that too. Did we have any cheese for him?

700
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:52,079
Speaker 3: I thought it's coffee in football.

701
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: It is. It's supposed to be. It's supposed to be.

702
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:58,519
All right, up one Kreagan.

703
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:02,679
Speaker 1: First, Casey and the quarterback through the ball. That's gonna

704
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:03,079
be the next.

705
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,119
Speaker 2: I don't think we have a personnel issue. We just

706
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:13,400
need to throw the ball consistently, consistently which coach, which

707
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,119
coach is set with his personnel. I don't think we

708
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:18,360
have a personnel issue, which need to throw the ball

709
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:26,599
consistently nor I thought you were locking it in, Craigh.

710
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,559
Speaker 1: This is hard.

711
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 3: This one is hard.

712
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: That's the point of the game.

713
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 3: I know.

714
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,639
Speaker 2: If I was just going to serve you, if I

715
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:39,960
wanted to give you the easy ones, I would put

716
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,960
players names and.

717
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:47,599
Speaker 3: I'll I'm gonna say hypel.

718
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,079
Speaker 5: Okay, he says hypel.

719
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: What do you think, Craig, I'll go hype because he

720
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,239
was right in the last one.

721
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,639
Speaker 2: Then all right, so we're sticking together. You're both wrong.

722
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:03,559
That would be Mike Elko and the losing effort to

723
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:06,599
Texas thinks that they have the players to go out

724
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:07,079
and get.

725
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: It done, just didn't throw the ball consistently.

726
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:12,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, A cool getturt by the way on Saturday night.

727
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: Which I think I think is I think is a

728
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,559
fair take because Marcel reads legs can move the ball.

729
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,000
It's just it's just eventually you figure out that's all

730
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:28,679
they've really got. But number two K Yeah, so we're

731
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,639
still up one o Casey here, all right, this coach commenting,

732
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,559
here's your here's your clue commenting on bowl season. You

733
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:41,840
have one more guaranteed opportunity. The NFL is not guaranteed

734
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,920
for anybody except for one player.

735
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 5: On our team name omitted. Not for the rest of us,

736
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:49,079
not Mark Stoops.

737
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,519
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. So somebody's bowling and his

738
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,320
opinion is on opting out of bowl games.

739
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,599
Speaker 5: You have one more guaranteed opportunity. The NFL is not guaranteed.

740
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: Billy and Napier, Okay.

741
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: Billy Napier, you're gonna say it, clerk Lee.

742
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: You're both wrong again. That would be our man. Eli

743
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:15,119
drink Witz and the player reference was Luther Burden in

744
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:17,840
that in that scenario snow game, I stayed away from

745
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,559
snow quotes. I feel like that would have been a

746
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:25,320
little too easy interesting one for a drink and for once,

747
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,880
as a South Carolina got I was pulling for them

748
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:31,000
because I need that to remain a ranked win.

749
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,559
Speaker 3: All Right, it doesn't matter if they lost, Missoo will

750
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,920
always be eternally twenty third in the country no matter what.

751
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,199
Speaker 1: The record is. They're twenty third.

752
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:43,119
Speaker 3: I don't understand they lose the game and stay at

753
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:43,719
twenty three.

754
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:45,159
Speaker 5: I don't understand it.

755
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: I think I think. I think Sankie's worried. Drink is

756
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,440
going to make fun of him or something. I have

757
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,000
no idea nudes.

758
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,519
Speaker 3: Of them or something.

759
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,599
Speaker 2: All Right, I have an easy one, and I have

760
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:57,719
a pretty and I have a trick one. Which one

761
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,400
do you want first?

762
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: Is the first three easier?

763
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,119
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to give you the easy I'm going

764
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,639
to give you the easier one. I feel like I

765
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,199
may be giving an educ casey, but all right, here's

766
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:12,559
the quote, short and sweet. No one deserved to lose

767
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:13,000
that game.

768
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 3: Oh that's shame.

769
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 2: Beemerurby Smart, and that is in fact Shane Beemer. However,

770
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:22,800
it could have easily been Kirby Smart. All right, last one,

771
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,559
last one, I think just for for kicks and giggles,

772
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:27,199
because I'm pretty sure this is a blowout.

773
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: Pretty sure too.

774
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:33,119
Speaker 2: That's a big difference in the game. They cashed in

775
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:35,039
on their drives and we didn't.

776
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:39,079
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops.

777
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: Clark Lee that one is actually Kirby Smart.

778
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 3: Wow.

779
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: When speaking of the game and regulation, what happens? Can we.

780
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: Don't have anything to do with the game, Like, can

781
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,599
we play this every week?

782
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:56,559
Speaker 3: I like that last one?

783
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,599
Speaker 2: I would like I would like to play this. I

784
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:00,519
would like to plays every week. How Howver, we only

785
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:03,119
have so many weeks of postgame press conferences left, lady

786
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:07,679
and gentlemen, this has been the first game postgame pressure presser.

787
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,480
Now to everybody's favorite segment, at the risk of me

788
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,639
really taking over the I was wrong segment, the I

789
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,039
was wrong segment. So I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this

790
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:22,559
out here to you, and then I'm gonna give you

791
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:26,880
both an opportunity to think while I wax eloquent about

792
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,480
my spreadsheet, what was your biggest take on the season

793
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,880
that was wrong? On the season. So something you said

794
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,880
early on, or maybe in the preseason, or maybe you

795
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,840
didn't even say it, Maybe it was just an opinion,

796
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,239
something that you thought was gonna happen. What was your

797
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,960
biggest I was wrong moment? I love pointing out moments

798
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,039
where I was wrong because it happens so rarely that

799
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:53,400
our listeners love to hear it. So, of course, as

800
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,000
Craig loves to point out, my spreadsheet done in spring

801
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:01,519
practice had every game for every sec sc predicted and

802
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:05,880
then final records predicted. I got just a few highlights

803
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,840
here of things that were really wrong for me. Had

804
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,800
Auburn at nine and three coming into the season, that

805
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,159
was the heck of a miss. Culture down there is

806
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,599
a little hit or miss. I think that they got

807
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:18,280
a little bit of their mojo back when they were

808
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,119
able to beat Texas A and M and really go

809
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:24,159
in strong against Alabama. It seemed like maybe Freeze he

810
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,639
just looked a little looser these past two weeks than

811
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,840
he has in weeks past. Still a lot of question

812
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,199
marks for me on what happens moving forward, but the

813
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,239
recruiting class looks great, and as we all know, early

814
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,159
signing period is really moves up and so we'll see

815
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:44,239
what happens there just a couple of days away. At

816
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,519
this point from the early signing period, had Auburn at

817
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,920
nine and three, they finished five and seven. On the

818
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,639
flip side, had Florida at two and ten, was not

819
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:57,480
a believer in the Gators. What I thought would happen

820
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,960
is that midway through the season they would just quit.

821
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:03,400
And credit to Billion Napier, here's your here's your moment,

822
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,880
Craig where we throw the flowers. He kept them together

823
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:08,239
and he really he really kept the locker room willing

824
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,480
to fight and play for him whether they were a

825
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,880
good team or not. They do have talent on the

826
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,800
roster and they play hard. As much as that just

827
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,280
seems to be like a participation trophy type of statement,

828
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:23,760
they play really hard. And I think that what sets

829
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,920
Napier apart from past coaches at Florida, and I've advocated

830
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:29,719
for a couple of years now they should have just

831
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:35,000
kept Dan Mullett. However, what sets Napier apart is that

832
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:37,159
these teams have not quit. So that's kind of my

833
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:40,039
two really really big ones that I would say I

834
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:42,559
was wrong thought Auburn would be a good team. I

835
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,760
believed in Peyton Thorn a little bit too much, as

836
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:50,679
did Hugh Freeze. And we know this is I was wrong.

837
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,559
This is I was wrong, this is not I was right.

838
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,599
So this is a moment to tell us where you

839
00:43:55,679 --> 00:44:00,960
messed up. Craig, Florida and Auburn my two biggest You're infallible.

840
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,159
Speaker 1: But do you want to go before me?

841
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 3: I'm I'm the worst at we do hot takes before

842
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,000
the season starts on the MBG Show, and I was

843
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:14,559
zero for three, well, maybe one for four, I don't know.

844
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:19,079
I had Dabo saying something stupid this year. He really didn't,

845
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,920
so I was kind of disappointed there. I had Spencer

846
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Petrice winning being in the Heisman conversation at Utah State.

847
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:33,559
He was not. I had Virginia winning his game, winning

848
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:35,960
as many games as they lost, they ended up five

849
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,199
and seven. I was close there. And I had Alabama

850
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,840
making the playoff, which.

851
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: To be determined.

852
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was wrong three of my four. Hopefully

853
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:50,000
I'm four for four with.

854
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 2: Greg is beating this. Alabama drone so hard just to

855
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,360
get under my skin and we don't even know.

856
00:44:56,039 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: And you also against against South Calle.

857
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: I don't think you believe it. Let's look at the

858
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,960
last six weeks of the season, Craig and tell me

859
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,400
which team has a strong resume.

860
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: All right, I was wrong about Old Miss, and it

861
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,960
breaks my heart. I thought this was the year for

862
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,480
Lane twelve to fifteen million dollars spent by the Grove

863
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:26,480
Collective in order to get them to the playoff. Again,

864
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,159
you lose to a bad Florida team, regardless of what

865
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,159
Rob has said about billion Napier, and you lose to

866
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,639
Kentucky on a bomb late in the fourth quarter, and

867
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:44,679
then you give up the lead to LSU on the

868
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,079
first possession they have in overtime and you lose the game.

869
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:55,519
You talk about margins for error, it's Old Miss. Other

870
00:45:55,559 --> 00:46:01,760
part where I may have been wrong Alabamagan ninth. I

871
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,519
think I had ten and two again I the Oklahoma loss.

872
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:08,440
I'm still trying to figure out what team that was,

873
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,599
how's that happened? And if Georgia hosts Alabama and Athens

874
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,920
for that seven to nine matchup, whatever that may be.

875
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:19,960
My god, can you imagine the ratings. I would love

876
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,480
to see that that Alabama team that showed up normal.

877
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you did have them at ten and two.

878
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,599
The records that I got correct just just as we transition.

879
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: I was wrong.

880
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,199
Speaker 2: It was it was when we closed that segment, and

881
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,119
now we're segueing over. Okay, so I'm giving you time

882
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:41,880
to get your bedding lines ready because that's where we're

883
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,000
going next for champs Championship weekend. What's out. I'm not

884
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:49,559
sure that's your job, mister lines.

885
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: All right.

886
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,679
Speaker 2: I had Alabama right at nine and three. I was

887
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,719
correct there as we moved our way down. I had

888
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,960
Oklahoma correct at six and six and uh. Those were

889
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,719
the only two that I nailed on the head. So

890
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,559
interesting that that game turns out to be one that

891
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:11,760
makes a huge difference in how the season plays out,

892
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,159
and I had those two teams pegged. I did not

893
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:19,519
pick that game correctly in the preseason, however, So a

894
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:21,599
couple of teams that were really close. I had, uh,

895
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,360
Tennessee at eleven and one. There ten and two, had

896
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,519
Texas at twelve and oh, they're eleven and one. I

897
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:29,840
had Missouri at ten and two. They're nine and three.

898
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,760
I had Georgia at eleven and one. They're ten and two.

899
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,559
So few schools there was.

900
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, absolutely, that schedule.

901
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 2: We're not talking about strinths of schedules is not allowed

902
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,559
on this podcast.

903
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: Ok.

904
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, We're gonna have to move on from that point.

905
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 5: You're about as in consistent as the playoffs.

906
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: That was your golden opportunity. Drink, I think would work

907
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,280
an too, just like drink would work at Florida. I

908
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,800
think drink works at Auburn too, because it's.

909
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: Some of the water. While you're talking about drink, right.

910
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: It's that, it's that whatever it is. All right, let's

911
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:12,280
talk to about something that matters besides Rob being right.

912
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:19,719
Let's talk about conference change that well, okay, the conference

913
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,280
championship games that I think are interesting first and foremost.

914
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,639
I don't care who wins this game Jacksonville Jacksonville State

915
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,880
versus Western Kentucky. Here's why it's important. I am interested.

916
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,239
Wes Neil Brown and West Virginia decided to part ways. Today.

917
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,079
Everybody's talking about Jimbo Fisher. Yeah, I think. I think

918
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:42,719
at the end of the day, I think rich Rod

919
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,639
returns home and gives them five five, five six good

920
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,679
years to get some setback up to to where they're

921
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:53,719
going to be. I think, I think I think that

922
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,960
that that's a smart move. I think Jimbo Fisher is

923
00:48:57,079 --> 00:48:59,880
done that. I think West Virginia would involve a lot

924
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,840
of work, and I don't think that's in Jimbo's vocabulary.

925
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: That's a preview if I was wrong coming up, I

926
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,679
think Jimbo's coming going to Morgantown.

927
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,599
Speaker 1: Is he gonna work?

928
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,599
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think he's bored.

929
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,599
Speaker 1: Hot. Takes Casey anything on that one?

930
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.

931
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,159
Speaker 2: You know what, you know what? You know. What Casey

932
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,800
really just needs to do on that one is monitor

933
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,559
that message board because regardless they just fired a coach,

934
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,119
and firing and coach and hiring your coaches is prime time.

935
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:43,159
Speaker 3: For the boards. Well, I'm watching tail numbers interest.

936
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: That's a call. We'll move on from that one. UNLV

937
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Boise state, to me, this is gonna be the biggest

938
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,960
one for playoff implications outside of the power floor. Absolutely,

939
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,559
this was a great game back a Friday, in a

940
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:04,159
game regular season. I think Burry Oldham gets some second

941
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:05,440
time around knocks.

942
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:08,039
Speaker 5: Off boys estate is Bury owed him on the move.

943
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,039
Speaker 1: Not if he wins.

944
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 5: Okay, what's the line?

945
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: Boise by three and a half, Gentry is gonna run

946
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,320
for forty more carries and two hundred and eighty yards.

947
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,239
That guy is a machine. He's like Travis Hunter but

948
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,280
just runs the ball all the time, but just better. Better.

949
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:30,840
Here you go.

950
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:34,159
Speaker 2: I actually agree, however, to Craig's point about, you know,

951
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,679
narratives and money and ratings and all that. On Friday

952
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,960
during game action both players playing in the same window.

953
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,400
I got it. I got a notification from the Four

954
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,639
Letter Network letting me know of all of Travis Hunter's stats. Meanwhile,

955
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,199
Ashon genty goes six point one yards per carry in

956
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,280
two twenty six and a touchdown and I received nothing

957
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:03,599
to let me know that that had happened. Interesting mm hmm, okay.

958
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: In the weirdest power for Championship, is there two more

959
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,760
two different schools than Iowa State and Arizona State playing

960
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:17,599
like you think about those two campuses. I mean that

961
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,119
is like day and night, not.

962
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: Literally.

963
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,199
Speaker 1: Arizona State's getting two and a half in that one.

964
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,519
Speaker 2: I like it. I'll take it.

965
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: Billing Ham, I love I love everything.

966
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,639
Speaker 2: They're just hot, man. They run it. They run it

967
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:38,079
really well, and that's gonna that's gonna bud well for

968
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:39,280
them in anything they do.

969
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: He's he's in a lump from Arizona State, He's got

970
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:46,559
around quick. I think he was picked towards the bottom

971
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:47,039
of the Big.

972
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,559
Speaker 2: Twelve this year, maybe the bottom.

973
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was right right there at the bottom.

974
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,679
Does North Carolina throw money?

975
00:51:58,119 --> 00:51:59,159
Speaker 3: His name is gonna show up?

976
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:03,199
Speaker 1: Is there is there an SEC school? Is there a

977
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:06,159
Columbus school that might say.

978
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: The SEC is gonna have one opening in Kentucky and

979
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,000
they're gonna get somewhere else, so the SEC is wrapped.

980
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,079
Speaker 1: I don't know. Dialing Dillingham's I think one to watch.

981
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,800
It'd be interesting to see if what that passion is

982
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:25,079
like in the I was wrong statement. I totally thought

983
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:31,400
thought that Indiana was playing Oregon. I continually forget and

984
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:33,000
disregarding Penn State.

985
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 5: And just yeah, I kind of made that mistake myself.

986
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: Like all it's like every time I have these conversations,

987
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,440
they just they they're they're constantly just not not not there.

988
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,280
There're somehow eleven and one this year?

989
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: What's that line?

990
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,519
Speaker 1: Three and a half Oregon three and a half.

991
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 3: The James Franklin factors be at least like five more points.

992
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:03,679
Speaker 2: Give it to me. I would have said five and

993
00:53:03,679 --> 00:53:07,039
a half at least are we serious with that.

994
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:14,199
Speaker 1: So, so here's my question. Then let's just say it's

995
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,280
chalk Landing gets a cigar Landing wins, You're gonna have.

996
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,039
Speaker 2: Which will be the ultimate I was right moment, Just

997
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,599
so we know, because on this podcast for like a

998
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:31,360
year ago, I've called him what big four big.

999
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,679
Speaker 1: Champion Dan Lanning, Indiana will be eleven and one.

1000
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,079
Speaker 2: I'm gonna carry that one on my shoulder if he

1001
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,000
wins that game. That's been a year in the making.

1002
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,679
Speaker 1: You know, I have the power of YouTube, right, go

1003
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,679
for it. So, like I guess four big ten teams

1004
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,159
in the playoffs. I think that that that that's a

1005
00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:56,079
bigger question. Yeah, Indiana's gonna be eleven and one, Penn

1006
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:58,079
State will be eleven and two or House State will

1007
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:03,400
be eleven and two. Of those three, Indiana probably gets

1008
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,039
a home game. Maybe like who like like like of

1009
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:10,480
those three, who gets a home game? Is it two

1010
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:11,880
of three? Is it one of three?

1011
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 2: It could be two. I don't think it's Ohio State.

1012
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,000
It can't be. It shouldn't be. Not At this point,

1013
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,480
you can't lose the six and six and not fall

1014
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:28,760
out of that, not not fall down to eight range. Yes,

1015
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:31,679
as a three touchdown favorite.

1016
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I boss brutal.

1017
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: That is not That is not the only driving factor here.

1018
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:45,000
There's some integrity left in this process. Maybe not a lot,

1019
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:45,480
but some.

1020
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: We gotta hope something.

1021
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I can see a way out in

1022
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:54,639
the Happy Valley.

1023
00:54:56,199 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 5: They don't want to go to Bloomington, but I think

1024
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,480
they're gonna have to.

1025
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 3: No, Penn State Apple.

1026
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:04,599
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the playoff committee.

1027
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,639
ESPN does not want a game in Blimington, but I think,

1028
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,360
can we.

1029
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: Do this then? Like if Penn State gets gets a

1030
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,760
home game, can we have Ohio State going and just

1031
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:13,760
ruin their season?

1032
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 3: Again, It's possible they don't get out of the first round.

1033
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:23,920
I don't care who they play. I put my Tigers

1034
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,159
up against them, I really would. And I know that

1035
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,000
defense is good, but I feel like we played the

1036
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:28,679
best defense.

1037
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: That fullback they have, that h back full back, that

1038
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:35,760
kid is the the kids impressive. Other than that, I.

1039
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: Talk about not hitting the broadside of a barn. Yeah,

1040
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:43,199
I just quarterback.

1041
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: But we think all four are gonna make it.

1042
00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:52,199
Speaker 3: I do, I do too, God, that's disheartening. I hate

1043
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,400
watching the Big ten.

1044
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: So I don't even watch Fox for that reason. So

1045
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:03,360
here's my question. That's why lanning one of many reasons.

1046
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,159
That's another show.

1047
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,519
Speaker 2: All right, on the rails, on the rails, next championship game, No,

1048
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,400
I have a question.

1049
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: Okay, if Landing and in the Ducks drop a bomb

1050
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,360
in Penn State, how big? How big does it have

1051
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,559
to be for them not to make it?

1052
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: I think they're in ward. Manuel has already said we

1053
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:37,000
do not want to punish conference championship game losers. Now

1054
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,320
we can especially reserve that statement for the big ten

1055
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,760
in the SEC. I think I think it gets a

1056
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:48,280
little dicey when we're talking about the ACC loser and

1057
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,079
definitely the big definitely the Big twelve loser, because they're

1058
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:52,480
gonna be a three loss Big twelve loser.

1059
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:57,079
Speaker 3: Like Clemson's winning in, but they're not in. If they lose.

1060
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: At SMU minus two and a half.

1061
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: And I'm taking Clemson, it's.

1062
00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:12,039
Speaker 1: I feel like we're still discounting SMU as a group

1063
00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:15,880
of five teams. I feel like the national media is

1064
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,800
doing it right.

1065
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,599
Speaker 2: God to show me.

1066
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: They've been impressive, Like against two, they've they they've taken

1067
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:27,159
care of business.

1068
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 5: I mean against two. Give me an opponent.

1069
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:35,639
Speaker 1: There, ACC schedule. They've been impressive.

1070
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: Against Virginia Sorry as Boston College.

1071
00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:44,599
Speaker 2: I'll give you Pitt listen.

1072
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: I think they're winning the ACC championship. Pitt it it's weird.

1073
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: They're very weird.

1074
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: Pitt has that like.

1075
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: It's the top twenty defense too liked.

1076
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: But you can coach regardless of the fact whatever of

1077
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,920
rob of I was wrong, I was right. Whatever it is,

1078
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:14,480
they're a group of five roster that went to that

1079
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:23,280
moved up. And you look at the Big twelve last year, Cincinnati, Houston,

1080
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:31,559
U c F B YU, there's one other one. Huh,

1081
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,079
that's it, right, I think I think, I think Memphis

1082
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:38,000
State in the a C. But but here's the deal.

1083
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:39,679
You look at all four of those teams when they

1084
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:42,440
went up to the Big twelve, none of them had

1085
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,840
a winning record last year. Said look, hang on, hang on,

1086
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,480
hang on, hang on. I'll get your point. I'll get you,

1087
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:53,199
I'll get you your flowers s m U moves up.

1088
00:58:54,559 --> 00:59:00,039
They bet on themselves, they take no money, and and

1089
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:01,760
then they go and take the ACC's money. They go

1090
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,159
seven and oh one conference. They take care of business.

1091
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:07,760
They have They have an early loss to BYU, which

1092
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,960
looks suspect back when that happened, then they're like, okay,

1093
00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:16,360
BYU's good team. Not a great team, but a good team.

1094
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:21,840
So like, I think we have to be careful here. Yes,

1095
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,239
they did not play an SEC schedule. Sure they didn't

1096
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:27,760
play the top twenty five teams. You look at the ACC,

1097
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,320
I think, what do you have twelve Casey, I think

1098
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,480
probably made a Bowl this year, so you had a

1099
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,840
lot of it's gonna take. But what you have at

1100
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,760
the end of the day, with a lot of parody,

1101
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,679
You've got teams that are very similar and the Big

1102
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:44,679
twelve you've had that as well. But yet SMU has

1103
00:59:44,679 --> 00:59:46,599
been able to rise above that. And here's the deal.

1104
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:50,599
It's easy to fall flat or come out and come

1105
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:53,639
out and not come correct and lose. And all they

1106
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:54,760
did was they kept winning.

1107
00:59:56,679 --> 00:59:59,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had Louisville earlier in the season when Louisville

1108
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:02,880
was hot, and so with them and beat them. They

1109
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,920
were ranked relatively highly at the time. I don't like

1110
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,000
the this is their shot to anybody, but I don't

1111
01:00:10,039 --> 01:00:12,719
like the who they play thing, because you can't just

1112
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,280
go in and hope. You have to hope the teams

1113
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,639
you're playing are good, Right, like there's nothing that and

1114
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,159
this probably is pent up from twenty fifteen or twenty fifteen,

1115
01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:28,239
twenty eighteen, twenty sixteen, when Clemson was dominant and beating

1116
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,199
the greatest Alabama team in the history of the ultra

1117
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,760
Verse by four touchdowns in Santa Clara. But like, who'd

1118
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,119
they play? I just I and maybe as an ACC

1119
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,679
or a non SEC fan, I am a little more

1120
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,840
hurt by it. Hurt's not the right word, but that's

1121
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,800
my stick, right. But it's like you can't just like

1122
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,480
why is it Clemson's fault? The Boston College sucked in

1123
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:55,519
twenty fifteen, you know, like their college. They can recruit too,

1124
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,119
SMU can't change their schedule like they came into the

1125
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:01,360
league they got they at the schedule they got out

1126
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,519
of conferences made like we're scheduling Oklahoma State twenty thirty five,

1127
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:11,039
twenty thirty six. It's like, but they could, I'll be there.

1128
01:01:11,199 --> 01:01:14,960
I'll be in there. Yeah, probably he can. He shouldn't

1129
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,599
be after this year, though, But anyway, that's my soapbox.

1130
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,719
It's hard. It's hard. It's easy for SEC people and

1131
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,039
this is an SEC podcast to say who they play,

1132
01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:28,320
because ninety nine times out of one hundred, the SEC

1133
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,000
teams are good.

1134
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:36,119
Speaker 1: The one the bigger argument I have is from the

1135
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:44,199
ACC's perspective was Miami, Like Miami was constantly the cardiac kids.

1136
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:47,599
They needed like last minutes, they needed heroics one hundred

1137
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:50,480
percent right, Like they have the money. And here's the

1138
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:54,039
funniest thing. Rob was still in diapers. But Casey and

1139
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:56,960
I remember when Miami used to be very good and

1140
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,920
they dominated the Big East and they moved the ace

1141
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:02,719
he's seen in two thousand and four. We're like, oh cool,

1142
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,079
they're gonna roll, They're ready to go.

1143
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: They've never won it.

1144
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,079
Speaker 1: They've never won it. It's just I mean, it's just

1145
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,880
like you think back to the Big East again, Robert,

1146
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,679
you were in Dyck, Virginia. You don't remember this, but

1147
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,119
like those games against Pitt, those games against Rutgers, those

1148
01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:20,679
games against West Virginia, like the Big East used to

1149
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:23,599
be so much fun. That was like Thursday night football

1150
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:31,280
and the U was like everything and they just go

1151
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,719
crystal ball and all over the place. Yet, but yet

1152
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:37,599
you look at the ratings this year, and the rankings

1153
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:41,920
from the committee never cross their mind.

1154
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 5: They were fascinated with cam Ward and that's just it.

1155
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: That's it.

1156
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,679
Speaker 5: We said it with Tony on the first Ranking show.

1157
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:52,639
Speaker 2: When Ward Manuel said I test, I test, I test,

1158
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:56,760
I tests. What he meant was we like big offensive plays.

1159
01:02:58,119 --> 01:03:01,159
That's I tests. The I test not refer to defense

1160
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,440
at all. Yep, because every time he says I test,

1161
01:03:04,519 --> 01:03:07,679
they're talking about somebody's prolific offense.

1162
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,079
Speaker 5: One thing, and then you have to you have another line.

1163
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 3: I think.

1164
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: But Casey, you're correct that SMU cannot control their schedule

1165
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,320
and it's not their fault that the teams they play suck.

1166
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:22,519
But the flip side of that coin is it's not

1167
01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:25,280
George's fault that everybody on their schedule is good either,

1168
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,639
And so you can't control that your schedule is terrible,

1169
01:03:28,639 --> 01:03:31,119
but you can't control your schedule is really good. And

1170
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,239
you can't be punished in the same way. If you're

1171
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,079
not punished for beating the teams you're supposed to beat,

1172
01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:38,679
you can't be punished for dropping a couple when you

1173
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:41,360
when you're going eight in a row against quality component

1174
01:03:41,519 --> 01:03:42,480
quality opponent.

1175
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Speaker 3: I'll just tell you they're not gonna leave because of

1176
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,840
Florida State last year. I just don't think that's just

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01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:54,360
bad press. Again, if they well, if SMU wins, it

1178
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,599
doesn't matter. I just think that I don't know. We

1179
01:03:58,639 --> 01:04:00,559
don't know, you know. That's the thing that we do know,

1180
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:02,400
is that we don't know what this committee is going

1181
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:03,159
to do. Well.

1182
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:05,239
Speaker 2: It's very inconsistent just the way, just the way I

1183
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,360
talked about it. We don't have a set criteria. I'm

1184
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,039
gonna get to that set box and just just a

1185
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:10,960
second as we close.

1186
01:04:11,239 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 5: But Craig sec line is that what's left?

1187
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:21,519
Speaker 1: Yep So four o'clock Saturday, Atlanta. Georgia will make its

1188
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:27,559
seventh trip to Atlanta in eight years, twelve, I believe

1189
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:32,599
in the twenty three years in the pan. It's impressive, man.

1190
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:35,119
I mean, it's not bad. Be nice if they win.

1191
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:37,000
But here's the deal. You don't know why Georgia's got

1192
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:38,679
the best she has to win. They're not playing save

1193
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,280
in Alabama. They're okay as long as it's not them.

1194
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,159
And I guess Joe Burrow, ooh, that could be a

1195
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:49,480
preview what could happen. There's what could happen if Georgia

1196
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,760
doesn't come out Number twenty nineteen. Joe Burrow just dropped

1197
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,920
a bomb on them and number remember the little one

1198
01:04:57,039 --> 01:05:02,239
was like six weeks old or something like that, sitting

1199
01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:04,480
there watching it, just like, oh, this is not good.

1200
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,960
Texas is favored by two and a half.

1201
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:19,159
Speaker 6: Wow, I'm shocked by that. Yep, I'm shocked by that.

1202
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. We're giving them too much credit.

1203
01:05:22,239 --> 01:05:25,599
I get it that Georgia has looked suspect. I think

1204
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:28,079
we're giving credit. Have you seen georg giving Texas. We're

1205
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:29,920
giving Texas too much credit. This game is in the

1206
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,840
state of Georgia, and we know and george has already

1207
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:38,639
beat them by two scores. I get it. Like you,

1208
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:42,199
you look at them down the stretch, one team looks

1209
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:44,079
better than the other. It's it doesn't look like the

1210
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:47,960
same matchup that we got in Austin, that's for sure.

1211
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 3: But when they spot the ball, same athletes.

1212
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is Georgia. I had to google it. Georgia

1213
01:05:56,199 --> 01:05:58,400
is five and five at Mercedes Benz. It's not the

1214
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,880
homefield advantage, we think.

1215
01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:02,639
Speaker 3: No, but they'll have a ton of fans and Texas

1216
01:06:02,679 --> 01:06:05,639
will travel too. But it'll be sixty forty.

1217
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be sixty forty. But like they've got

1218
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,400
to come from there five.

1219
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,679
Speaker 2: And the bench because they played massive games there. It's

1220
01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:20,039
not like it's not like they're playing, but there.

1221
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,639
Speaker 1: I was there in twenty eighteen when when when Jalen

1222
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,599
came off the bench to replace Tua and we decided

1223
01:06:27,639 --> 01:06:30,159
to run a fake punt with Justin Fields. I was there.

1224
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,719
I get it with an amazing facility that that to

1225
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,360
me was the pinnacle of any game that I've ever watched.

1226
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:45,079
But like, at the end of the day, if Quinn stays,

1227
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,559
stays in the pocket, Schumann is going to blitz the

1228
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:51,760
hell out of out of Texas. And I literally think

1229
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,960
he's gonna put his corners on an island and he's

1230
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,840
going to basically be ken be your can you know

1231
01:06:58,119 --> 01:07:02,480
Smill smell Monday and you know, Michael Williams. Can they

1232
01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:04,639
get Can they get to Quinn before you get that

1233
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,320
ball off? That to me is going to be the key.

1234
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:12,000
It's going to be can they sack Quinn? And then

1235
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,760
on the offensive staff, Carson Beck has not throw an

1236
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,440
interception about three or four games and George Georgia has won.

1237
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:27,000
If Beck avoids interceptions, avoids turning it over, then they

1238
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,559
have a chance. If Back throws one or multiple interceptions,

1239
01:07:31,079 --> 01:07:35,800
Texas could win this game. Going away, all right, The

1240
01:07:36,039 --> 01:07:43,159
question becomes, there's your preview at nine and three? Yeah,

1241
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:45,719
I think it would be yet nine and three, maybe

1242
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,159
ten three, ten and three. Math is not my strong suit.

1243
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:53,400
Would Georgia still make it? Yes?

1244
01:07:54,239 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 3: I was told there would be no math here today hoping.

1245
01:07:59,639 --> 01:08:01,559
Speaker 1: I think both those teams are are.

1246
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: I think it's that you say the same thing about

1247
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,400
a big ten. I think your question. I think your

1248
01:08:05,519 --> 01:08:09,639
big big twelve loser is out and your ACC loser,

1249
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,199
if it's NMU, is the giant question mark when it

1250
01:08:14,199 --> 01:08:17,800
comes to playoffs. And this is a beautiful segue. My

1251
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:25,800
top twelve are as follows Oregon, Texas, Penn State, Indiana,

1252
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:31,159
Georgia at five, six, Notre Dame, who we have not

1253
01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:36,239
talked about it at all, Tennessee at seven, Highest State

1254
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:41,319
at eight, SMU at nine, Boise at ten, Arizona State eleven,

1255
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:48,479
and the Homer pick South Colina at twelve. You can interchange,

1256
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,479
we could sit here, we could talk for another two

1257
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,319
hours on this debate.

1258
01:08:53,039 --> 01:08:54,279
Speaker 5: Interchange the twelve.

1259
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:56,399
Speaker 2: Seed there or if it ends up being the eleven

1260
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,319
Arizona A twelve, however that's going to go for Alabama

1261
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,920
or for miss or for UH switch Clemson out with

1262
01:09:04,079 --> 01:09:07,640
SMU after next week and then put SMU in that

1263
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,159
eleven or twelve spot. You tell me how it's gonna

1264
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:12,199
shake out. But what do we agree with? What doll

1265
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:15,600
we not disagree with? As I have it currently sitting

1266
01:09:16,039 --> 01:09:20,039
here again, we have the four Big ten teams and

1267
01:09:20,079 --> 01:09:27,680
then we also have four SEC teams Texas, Georgia, Tennessee

1268
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,399
and a three loss SEC team which I have South

1269
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:43,439
Carolina in Boise, Arizona State ACC champ the biggest one Saturday.

1270
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:47,119
Speaker 1: If you look at this weekend where it matters most,

1271
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,079
it's a Big ten championship game. As we're just talking

1272
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:59,039
about proceeding. What does Penn State do? And then you're

1273
01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:02,319
in and then it's the a SEC championship game that's huge.

1274
01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:08,159
What like if Clemson wins like that's when you have

1275
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:11,319
the like that that that that's where the competition is.

1276
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:15,439
Is that that fourth SEC team Alabama, South Carolina, Old

1277
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:20,119
Miss insert one of those three there versus A eleven

1278
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:25,399
and two s m U or eleven and two Penn

1279
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,800
State bay See.

1280
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 3: It's there's just too much. I'm just trying to think,

1281
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,479
like if if Penn State beats Oregon, who's then number

1282
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,960
one Texas beats Georgia, Texas goes back to number one,

1283
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,479
So I think it's I'm stuck there.

1284
01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:49,279
Speaker 1: I think, can you imagine James Franklin having the number

1285
01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:49,720
one seed?

1286
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 3: But then why I love this conversation the second week.

1287
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,920
I love this conversation so much because that's how crazy

1288
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,319
and fun this year's been. Absolutely, it really has because

1289
01:11:04,319 --> 01:11:06,840
we have no idea, Like, literally, I couldn't get to

1290
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,920
number two if Penn State beats number one like I have.

1291
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:16,119
Speaker 1: Look, so so here's here's here's the question. Does that happen? Right?

1292
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,920
If we say, if we go frontrol to sixteen, does

1293
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,039
it make it even more fun or does that start?

1294
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 3: Is that?

1295
01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: Do you think twelve is the sweet spot where like

1296
01:11:28,399 --> 01:11:30,520
we're going to have at least three to four fan

1297
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,720
bases that are pissed off.

1298
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 3: I always talk about college basketball. Sixty nine is always

1299
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,800
pissed off, you know, which I think is actually really

1300
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,239
a lot of fun. So I don't care what the

1301
01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:46,319
number is. That's my point. I don't care what the

1302
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,840
number is. Someone is going to be unhappy.

1303
01:11:49,279 --> 01:11:51,520
Speaker 1: Made the last two weeks more important, hasn't it though?

1304
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,119
Speaker 2: However? Absolutely, Well, let's solve the problem. Let's solve the problem.

1305
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,840
We can solve the problem. The SEC and the Big

1306
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,439
Ten inevitably are going to break off. That seems to

1307
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,039
be the line of thought that this is gonna happen

1308
01:12:05,079 --> 01:12:07,359
one way or another, whether it happens in two years,

1309
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,039
what happens in ten years, just it's the trajectory that

1310
01:12:10,079 --> 01:12:14,199
we're moving on. When they do that, let's say call

1311
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:17,159
back to a previous episode, they bump this to a

1312
01:12:17,239 --> 01:12:21,399
forty team super league with the two combined. So in

1313
01:12:21,399 --> 01:12:24,600
that scenario, Casey I would definitely say Clemson is in.

1314
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,560
Whether it's Big Ten or whether it's SEC, I'm not sure,

1315
01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:30,000
but you're gonna come in on one side or the other.

1316
01:12:31,119 --> 01:12:35,159
And at that point, it's a conference. It's an NFL model.

1317
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:38,359
It's a Big Ten versus SEC, it's a North versus South,

1318
01:12:38,359 --> 01:12:40,199
it's an East versus West. However you want to line

1319
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:42,680
it up, whatever you want to call the two conferences,

1320
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:48,840
you're gonna have clear rules and matchups within your divisions

1321
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,439
and tie breakers where we never again have this debate

1322
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,359
because you don't need a committee to decide who's making

1323
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:57,000
the playoffs, because you're just going to an NFL model.

1324
01:12:57,199 --> 01:12:59,720
I made the point earlier on X or Twitter or

1325
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:05,319
whatever we're calling it. Now that the conference championship games

1326
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,439
in the Big twelve, for example, four teams are eleven

1327
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,640
and two. You think the Colorado people don't think that

1328
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,880
they deserve to be in the conference championship game? Sure

1329
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,479
they do? Are they are they talking about? What about

1330
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,720
BYU the front runner in the conference all year and

1331
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:26,640
now they're not? And now they're not? There is anybody

1332
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,520
talking about it? Is anybody debating who should be in

1333
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,359
the Big twelve championship game? No, because there is a

1334
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:37,760
clear cut mathematical formula that tells us not based on

1335
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,000
a computer. It's not like all these metrics put together.

1336
01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:43,359
It's because the conference is small enough that we can say,

1337
01:13:43,399 --> 01:13:45,479
here are the tie breakers, and this is what's going

1338
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,960
to determine who's going into the game. And it eliminates

1339
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,039
It may be eliminate some fun for fan bases that

1340
01:13:53,039 --> 01:13:56,359
aren't involved in the arguments, but I think that it

1341
01:13:56,399 --> 01:13:59,319
does give us something. It does give us a clear

1342
01:13:59,359 --> 01:14:02,600
cut product in terms of we know we're getting the

1343
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,000
teams that quote unquote deserve to be there.

1344
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:10,520
Speaker 1: It does, But like I think it's easier to stay

1345
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,079
in a podcast, we're going to forty than in what

1346
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:16,319
reality would actually look like of doing. There's a lot

1347
01:14:16,319 --> 01:14:18,600
of things, but if we if we take a look,

1348
01:14:20,279 --> 01:14:24,680
I guarantee you in Dustin and SEC media days, there's

1349
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,960
going to be two conversations that are going to be

1350
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,439
top of my first and foremost. If the SEC only

1351
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,520
gets three teams, there's gonna be no conversation of going

1352
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,920
to nine games, which is total bs. They should have

1353
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,199
the nine games schedule, but if like they're already getting

1354
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:43,399
screwed over at eight, they're for sure as how, I'm

1355
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:47,079
not going to go to nine. But two is.

1356
01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:50,079
Speaker 2: That where I was wrong? Uh follow up is that like.

1357
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,520
Speaker 1: As not, I think you play the best and you

1358
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,840
do that, you know you look at the SEC does

1359
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,840
have the best nine conference record out of any the

1360
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,600
group before. Sure there's been there's been some other things

1361
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:09,399
of that nature. But like the other one is, this

1362
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,319
is why I don't want Tony Pettiti and Greg Zankie

1363
01:15:12,399 --> 01:15:16,439
to say I need automatic three or four automatic bids.

1364
01:15:17,159 --> 01:15:23,239
Let like I really have the opinion, keep those top five,

1365
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,520
go to sixteen, make those all at large. Don't lock

1366
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:33,199
in anybody else besides your five conference champions and just

1367
01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:36,479
go make it a full free for all and let's.

1368
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:37,520
Speaker 3: Go like it.

1369
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: Why do we need five conference champions locked?

1370
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:41,039
Speaker 1: Huh?

1371
01:15:41,399 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 5: Why do we need five conference champions locked?

1372
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:50,079
Speaker 1: Because? I think it saves you from lawsuits. I think

1373
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:53,359
that I've heard I've heard the legality question in our

1374
01:15:53,359 --> 01:15:56,359
writer chet and in others chats from guys who are

1375
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,880
way smarter than me that have juris Doctorate after their names,

1376
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:04,439
that keep talking about potential lawsuits and things of that nature,

1377
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,279
with equitable access things of that nature. So to me,

1378
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,439
you do the five. It gives everyone an opportunity. It

1379
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:18,039
also creates this rant race between everybody outside of the

1380
01:16:18,039 --> 01:16:21,239
Big ten in the a SEC. You saw that with

1381
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:23,279
the Big twelve, even saw that to a point of

1382
01:16:23,319 --> 01:16:25,920
the ACC where they thought the AAC and the mountain

1383
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,000
was coming for him.

1384
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 3: It's done. We've fixed it.

1385
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,319
Speaker 2: Boom theoretically, and this will lead to our off season,

1386
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,680
off season episode where we go back to the drawing

1387
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,720
board and try to figure out who those forty are,

1388
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:44,880
which we did last year. But I think we did

1389
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,560
it with didn't we do it with like sixty four?

1390
01:16:47,039 --> 01:16:48,560
Did we do a sixty four team?

1391
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just gonna We're just gonna make it a

1392
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,680
sixteen team playoff, and it's gonna be so much easier

1393
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,479
because then we don't have to change anything.

1394
01:16:56,399 --> 01:16:57,119
Speaker 2: We we.

1395
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 5: But you're still gonna have all this human error with

1396
01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:04,680
this with the committee.

1397
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem

1398
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,960
with the committee model. If we actually get people that

1399
01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:12,760
watch football games. These fools do not watch the football games.

1400
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,039
You cannot tell me that they're watching all the games.

1401
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,039
They're absolutely not. They're being driven by somebody else's narratives.

1402
01:17:20,119 --> 01:17:23,239
They're watching some short highlight clips. We have no idea

1403
01:17:23,279 --> 01:17:25,399
what the process is. We don't know if they're all

1404
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,079
coming in and they're they're just debating it like jury

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in a courtroom style.

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Speaker 1: We don't know if they're slate it's a tabula aurosa

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every every week.

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Speaker 2: Well that's bs. They can try to sell that all

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01:17:39,159 --> 01:17:41,079
they want to are They coming in and they're just

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01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:43,359
and they're all turning in ballots and they just average

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01:17:43,399 --> 01:17:47,399
it up and put them in Like, no, they're not

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held accountable.

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Speaker 1: Want to be on a committee that can get they don't.

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Speaker 2: Have to answer questions. They're not watching games. The country

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01:17:55,279 --> 01:17:59,239
is not equally represented in terms of conferences on the

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committee by any stretch. Give me, give me one factor

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01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:08,640
that says this that this committee model is is a

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01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,920
fair model to get the best and most deserving teams

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01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,880
in the playoff. You can't give me one.

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Speaker 3: There's not one. I always left when it was like

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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:22,560
Dan Radikovich had to recuse himself from the from the.

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Speaker 2: Committee joke too, right, that's what.

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Speaker 3: Other people on the committee weren't buddies with Dan radik Coovich.

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01:18:28,039 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: Right or like yeah, like they didn't definitely didn't talk

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01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,119
about it before and after he stepped out of the root.

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Speaker 1: You got to me, it's like you start with data,

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01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:41,439
you go ai to to to to make that data

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01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,680
makes sense right, and then you have a human element

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,039
at the end to kind of deride.

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Speaker 2: That's what March Madness does. And there is a sixty

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nine team who's upset, but it's not to this level.

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It's just not. I think that we can take a

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lot from the March Madness selection process and apply it to.

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Speaker 1: The situation the four quaterns. You could.

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Speaker 2: I think that I think that's absolutely needs to come

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into play. I saw Mike Morgan a ESPN actually pointed

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,359
out on the those show I was watching last week

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that when they put the stats up on Tuesday night,

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they had all these different things. You know, who your

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01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,960
best wins are, what your strings of schedule is, what's

1441
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,359
the one thing that was missing that's always president in

1442
01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:25,319
March bad losses, we're not gonna talk about who people

1443
01:19:25,319 --> 01:19:29,680
lost to. I don't know why that is Old Miss

1444
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,479
loss to Kentucky and they are so upset that we

1445
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,600
keep talking about that. But you can't lose to four

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01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,359
and eight teams and we're just going to gloss over it.

1447
01:19:41,279 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 3: If only you weren't gifted of fumble inside the twenty

1448
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,319
and week one against Old Dominion, we wouldn't even be

1449
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:48,920
talking about South Carolina.

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01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 2: It's fair, it's fair. But I will maintain one as

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,720
we shut it down today, boys, I will maintain South

1452
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,479
cambin as a two loss team by committee standards, because

1453
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,880
if a key player is absent from the game, then

1454
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,880
apparently all thirteen of your wins don't don't count. So surely,

1455
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,159
if you're greatest player in your quarterback is out for

1456
01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:17,920
over half of the game and a loss, that loss

1457
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,119
also doesn't count. So the LSU game we could toss

1458
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,039
and the South Carolina is just a nine to two team.

1459
01:20:23,079 --> 01:20:24,359
Two loss put them in.

1460
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 1: But also schedule, ancoring and old dominion your non conference

1461
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:32,039
go ahead.

1462
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,119
Speaker 2: You can keep making that joke because that never happens.

1463
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaking of the Bends, we have an ACC opponent lined

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01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,039
up to start the season next year and to finish it.

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01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,600
So I'll meet you in Atlanta for us to take

1466
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,159
on the Hokies next year's kick off Labor Day weekend.

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01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,079
Speaker 1: ACC late at best.

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01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 2: That game has been scheduled for eight years.

1469
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,520
Speaker 3: Like what do you do about it? You can't do

1470
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,279
anything about it. You thought maybe they would bounce back.

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01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: Beam revole the Beamber Bowl.

1472
01:21:02,279 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: All right, last word, last word As a nod to

1473
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:08,439
a last word on college football.

1474
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons thinks this podcast has gone long.

1475
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,399
Speaker 5: Really quick, roundtable SEC Coach of the Year.

1476
01:21:16,039 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 2: That's our last word, and it is a last word

1477
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,720
because we are probably a little over. But you know

1478
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,239
Itice what it is. It's that time of beer boys.

1479
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:26,680
There's a lot to be said.

1480
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:31,119
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian, I would give me a break.

1481
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,239
Speaker 5: You can make an argument for Shanember, you can make

1482
01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:35,399
an argument for Clark Lee.

1483
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely lazy if we just give it

1484
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:38,840
to the guy who won the most games.

1485
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm not making the argument for it because it's not

1486
01:21:42,279 --> 01:21:47,000
the most games. I'm making the argument that he Revam.

1487
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:49,159
Speaker 2: You're saying, are you saying he deserves it? You think

1488
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:51,680
saying that he's going to get it. Those are two

1489
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:52,399
different questions.

1490
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,079
Speaker 1: And saying if I had a vote, because you asked

1491
01:21:54,079 --> 01:21:56,000
me who the SEC Coach of the Year was, it's

1492
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:56,800
Steve Cirkishan.

1493
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: All right, you heard it here first, Craig says, hook him,

1494
01:22:05,119 --> 01:22:05,880
even though he's we're in.

1495
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:06,159
Speaker 3: The g.

1496
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: To actually go hop tonight, I will.

1497
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,279
Speaker 2: I think you can make the argument for Shane Beemer.

1498
01:22:12,359 --> 01:22:15,000
Casey I agree, like I said, I think you can

1499
01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:16,239
make the argument for clark Lee.

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01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 3: I think through six weeks it was clark Lee. But

1501
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,880
I think if the whole season, I think I think

1502
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,960
Seen did the best job with what he had.

1503
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 1: Herby's far the schedule.

1504
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,039
Speaker 2: He did, and you can make that argument as well.

1505
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:33,800
There was a point in time where you can really

1506
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,479
make the Elco argument.

1507
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: Billy because he persevered.

1508
01:22:40,079 --> 01:22:44,119
Speaker 2: I mean, somebody's gonna say Billionnaper is gonna get votes

1509
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,800
because of seven and five and that schedule, because the

1510
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,319
narrative to start the year was if they go seven

1511
01:22:49,319 --> 01:22:51,000
and five, this is an incredible They could be a

1512
01:22:51,079 --> 01:22:52,520
tight top fifteen team.

1513
01:22:52,359 --> 01:22:55,359
Speaker 5: And go seven and five, which is true with the

1514
01:22:55,359 --> 01:22:56,159
schedule that they had.

1515
01:22:59,239 --> 01:23:03,560
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see where it checks out again. Please

1516
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,880
tune in to message board Genus podcast. They have absolutely

1517
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,920
phenomenal chemistry. They make us laugh, they talk ball, they

1518
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,800
deliver all the insane fanatic statements that are set around

1519
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,720
the country, and they have the best guests on the

1520
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:28,039
planet except for us because we have Casey on but

1521
01:23:28,119 --> 01:23:32,000
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1522
01:23:32,079 --> 01:23:34,760
That's where you can find Casey and all of his takes,

1523
01:23:35,239 --> 01:23:41,520
whether they be orange tinted or not. Well done. Well

1524
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,039
done tonight, my friend. We appreciate you being here, and

1525
01:23:44,079 --> 01:23:46,960
we were able to keep it quite civil because we

1526
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:51,600
were sophisticated in mature adults around here. I mean, we

1527
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:52,319
wouldn't want to.

1528
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 3: We'll wait till we get offline, you know, trying to

1529
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:56,760
help get ratings.

1530
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. We love We love it, Craig.

1531
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,760
We hope you have a wonderful week leading up to

1532
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,000
one more trip to Atlanta for the dogs. We'll see if.

1533
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,239
Speaker 1: Your thoughts are correct, what could go wrong?

1534
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: Hey? Check us out, follow along. We will have lots

1535
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,960
of commentary after Tuesday night on X and we'll be

1536
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,960
back next week to wrap up champ weekend and look

1537
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,119
forward to that final college football playoff ranking show.

1538
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 3: It's been.

1539
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:31,399
Speaker 2: It just means more football and coffee. I'm Rob Williams,

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01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,479
he Is, Craig and Michael. We'll see you next time.